1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always as 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: Charles W. Bryant. Hi, Josh Chuck. I'm gonna tell you 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: something that you might not know about me. Oh boy, 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: as a youth. As a youth youth, a an older 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: boy in the neighborhood named Tommy Roper trained me as 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: a ninja, an altar boy or older older Yeah, so 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna train ninja right? Yeah? This Uh, this encompassed 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: generally sitting on top of a storage shed in my 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: backyard quietly for hours on end, waiting for somebody to 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: walk past, uh, so that we could find out whether 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: or not they noticed us. Then that's where you started 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: smoking because you were bored. Now, yet that came like 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: a year or two later. Yeah, you did not adhere 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: to the bushito. No, I don't know if smoking is 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: is outlawed by the bushido. I just meant the way 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: of the ninja. No, that's the samurai. Well, no, the 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: ninja though, shun the bushido, right, Okay, I got what 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: you say on the same page, So, Chuck, I thought, 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of carried that with me my 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: whole life. I'm sure i'd see a throwing star every 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: once in a while and be like, I know how 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: to throw that, you know? Did you have any of those, 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: Tommy did? I've never had any of those? Are big 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: in the eighties for little nerves to collect totally um. 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: I found out though, when I read how Ninja's work, 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I am nothing more than a dultant. Really, yeah, I 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: was surprised to find that out. I believe you said ninja, 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: so that is not correct, right, No, it is. It's ninja. 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: It's like fish or deer. I know we've been drilling 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: that into each other's head and I'm still saying Ninja's yeah, 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: So if we slip up, then give us a break, So, Chuck, Josh. 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: One of the first things I noticed from this article 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: was that um Ninja, although Japanese in nature and origin, 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: actually can trace its roots back to the Chinese. Yes, 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: very much, because of kind of what I was just 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: talking about with the Bushido was the Samurai code, where 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: you very respectfully would face one another, face your enemy 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: one on one and do battle, and the Ninja subscribe 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: more to the art of war school of thought right 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: as espoused by Sun Zu, which was a little sneakier, right, 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: and smarter if you ask me, it is smarter. And 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's how the American colonists won the War 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: for Independence. The British were all like, hey, we've got 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: a bunch of Hessians here and they're ready to fight 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: you on this field, and our guys were, yeah, jumping 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: out of trees and bayoneting them. Yeah, very Ninja, asked 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: very sun sue he wrote the Art of War back 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth or fifth century BC, and uh, yeah, 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: it kind of went against the grain, as it were, Yeah, 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: big time where you could uh. I think there's a chapter, 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: chapter thirteen, where he specifically said that you should use 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: people to spread confusion in the ranks and paranoia, um, 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: through sabotage, spying, spying, um yeah, espionage, that kind of stuff. 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: Pretty cool, Yeah, just basically underhanded stuff. Disguise was okay, yeah, deception, 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: I love it, right, So that is actually where it's 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: That's pretty much the basis of ninja, isn't it. Yeah, 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: from what I gather and and what is it? The 61 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: art of ninja, the art that ninja's practice. Yeah, ninjutsu 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: and it is not a martial art, but it is 63 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: an art of war, is what they call it. It 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: sounds like a martial arts. Yeah, but it's not. Okay, 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: that's because utsu sounds like jiu jitsu. Right, So, okay, 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: we've got this first seed of the ninja planet by 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: sun Su right, um and uh it takes a little 68 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: while to catch on. And actually, strangely enough, we can 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: trace back um to some of the first ninja stories, right, right, 70 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: some people who were thought to be among the first 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: ninja in Japan. We've moved over to Japan now, by 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: the way, yes, right, tell me about Prince Yamato. Yeah, 73 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: Prince Yamato, Uh is in some halls called the first 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: ninja because he was the first person that we know 75 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: of to blatantly use deception and disguise by addressing as 76 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: a woman and uh to attract. This is where it 77 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: gets sottlehinky to literally physically attract to barbarian chieftains. So 78 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: apparently he was a good looker as a woman, or 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: at the last he actually gained their confidence and uh 80 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: lull them into a sense of security. A false sense 81 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: of security and killed them. Yeah, then he withered them. 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh that's um not a bad one. Frankly, 83 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: I like that first Ninja story. I like yours though. 84 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: The thirteen year old kid, yeah, Kuma Waka Yeah, he 85 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: um was a little I guess, kind of a little shrimpy, right, 86 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: but he had some pretty good legs on him. He 87 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: traveled a really far distance to visit his father who 88 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: was ailing. Um, but his father was being held prisoner 89 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: by a monk and his family. Apparently monks did that 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: back then. I didn't know that what we do now, right, Um. 91 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: So a little thirteen year old Kuma Waka um was 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: turned away after traveling this long distance wanting to see 93 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: his father who's dying. And before he gets a chance 94 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: to see him, his father dies. So the kids like, 95 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I swear vengeance right here and now, right, 96 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: little thirteen year old vengeance? Right? So I think Um, 97 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: possibly not so much that he'd read the Art of war, 98 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: but just that being thirteen, you know, he wasn't aware 99 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: of pitch battles or really didn't care about him. And 100 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, I'm going to use 101 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of deception myself. He was doing't big 102 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: enough to just fight them straight upright right he Um. 103 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: He started kind of I guess, staking out the monks home, 104 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: and this kid was awesome. He he opened a window 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: to the monk's bedroom and let a bunch of moths in, 106 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: and they flocked to a lantern, blotting out all the light, 107 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: whereupon he snuck into the room, got the monk's sword, 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: and butchered him. Yes, have you noticed that most ninja 109 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: stories end in butchery. Yeah, that's a good point. Um. 110 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: The story is not over though, right, I don't think so. Well. 111 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: You should also point out, though he was actually in 112 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: their home, he faked an illness. Remember that's how we 113 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: got in there. That's right. He faked like he was sick, 114 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: so they brought him in and took care of him, 115 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: and he gained their trust, and then did the old 116 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: moth trick, right, the old moth trick. That's that's like 117 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Ninja one oh one right there. Um. So, after he 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: butchers the monk, he flees and he's being pursued, so 119 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: he climbs up a huge length of bamboo until it 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: tips over a river and he jumps off the other 121 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: side and he's gone into the annals of ninja history. 122 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: That is serious ninja stealth right there. Yeah, a little 123 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: thirteen year old, right, how many times can I say 124 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: a little thirteen year old? I don't know. We could 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: go back and count. So yes, even though these are 126 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: cool stories and they are thought of as maybe practicing 127 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: the first ninja practices, they aren't really believed to be 128 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: the first ninjas, right, No, I mean they're kind of 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: legend exactly, and there's a lot of lore surrounding ninja. 130 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: It's really tough, as the grabster who wrote this article 131 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: pointed out, to kind of separate fact from fiction. And 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: in some cases, Japanese historians just have admitted ninja altogether 133 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: because they're so secretive, right, or uh, you know, exaggerated 134 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and glorified it to the point that it's misinformation, right, 135 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: which is part of the whole ninja lore as well, right, 136 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: which apparently the ninja were perfectly fine with because it 137 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: freaked people out. We'll get to that in a minute, right, 138 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the supernatural stuff. Yeah, okay, so Chuck, what was the 139 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: true birth of the ninja? Then? Well, they think that 140 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: the regions of IgA and Coca or is it Egaga 141 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: and coca. You know what, I think, I have no 142 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: idea for those two. But you were getting good at 143 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: the Japanese. And let me tell you you have what 144 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: is called pura pura pura, which means you're very fluent. 145 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: It's Japanese for that describes very fluent. The Japanese is 146 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a little easier to pronounce, I think than some because 147 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: it's usually just kind of pronounced like it reads. There's 148 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: just a lot of letters sometimes yeah, and there's a 149 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of vowels together. It don't 150 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: make any sense, but we're doing our best. Yeah, you're 151 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: doing a great judge going with Ega and Koga, and 152 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: they are considered to be the birthplace of ninja as 153 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: a major force in warfare. And here's why. There was 154 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of clans in these two regions, and the 155 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: guys Um who were members of the clans tended to 156 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: farm themselves out as mercenaries, which we've talked about before. Um, 157 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: and they actually adopted a lot of the Ninja attitude, 158 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: the Ninja, the Ninja tude, right nice Um. They they 159 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: adopted a lot of it Um serving as spies, saboteurs, 160 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: and assassins, right, love that word, by the way, saboteur. 161 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: It's a pretty cool word. That's why a firefly was 162 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: one of my favorite g I Joe's, which we'll get to. 163 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: It's all coming around. Yeah. So in Ega and Coca, 164 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: right this basically this region, rather than um turning to 165 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: brewing or um grain production, they turned to ninja production, 166 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, and they protected They were hired out by 167 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: the daimio, which were what was another word for a lord, 168 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: a feudal feudal lord, and basically like mercenaries, they would 169 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: whoever had the most dough would get hired, so they 170 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: were not known as loyal. They would go where the 171 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: money was no, which, as you said, is completely contrary 172 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: to the Bushito code of the samurai. Who was I 173 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: guess you could probably make a case was a rival 174 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: faction in Japan at the time. If you wanted somebody 175 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: who would be willing to die for you, you had 176 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: your samurai. If you wanted somebody who you could pay 177 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: to go do horrible things for you, but then may 178 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: eventually come back and kill you through he was hired 179 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: for somebody else, you went with the ninja. Yeah, right, 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: good point. So one of the cool things that the 181 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: grabster mentioned was that the reason uh Ego and Koga 182 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: were I guess these hotbeds of activity for ninja was 183 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that the the the art of ninja two yeah, was 184 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: passed on from father to son, generation after generation after generation. Right, 185 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: And we're talking sneaking around. Uh. From what I gather 186 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: from reading is that uh, the lowly ninja were the 187 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: ones that were slinging the swords around and the true 188 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: uh skilled ninja did not do a lot of face 189 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: to face fighting. They were sneaking around, They were gathering information. 190 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Like you said, they were sabotaging, they were spying and 191 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: giving mis information. Right. And apparently since castles were they 192 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: figured so largely into feudal japan Um, the ninja became 193 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: especially a dept at um infiltrating castles and escaping from 194 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: castles that were undersea. There's the story of one ninja 195 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: who was hired by a damio um who owned a 196 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: castle that was under siege, and one night he slipped out, 197 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: went to the enemy encampment, stole their flag, and then 198 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: when they woke up the next morning they saw their 199 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: flag like on the embattlements of the castle, which you 200 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: can imagine you just like wa wa wa. We don't 201 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: we have that sound effect? I think so? Or did 202 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: they wake up and think, did we already capture this castle? 203 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: What were you doing here? That's what I would think 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: we already captured because their flag was flying, But apparently 205 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: it was a mocking thing and right, yeah, take the 206 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: wind out of their sales. And there was also another 207 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: story legend, Ninja lore of a group of Ninja's actually 208 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: a group of Ninja sorry um that captured the uh 209 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: I guess the badge of paper lantern badge which identified 210 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: like it identified with the castle and a damio Okay, 211 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock your socks off right here, chuck. So 212 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: they stole this lantern and reproduced it, reproduced the badge, 213 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: put him on other lanterns, and then just walked right 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: into the castle, right, butchered everybody like they do, yeah, 215 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: and then walked back out. And when everybody woke up 216 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: the next morning and found the people who were not butchered, 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: found uh you know what was going on? Um? They 218 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: they had created uh paranoia, right, which, as we said, 219 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: is another thing that Ninja liked to do, absolutely disruption. Yes, uh, 220 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: they were very skilled. Are your socks knocked off. These 221 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: are actually new socks and they are still on. You know, uh, 222 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: did you know that George Hamilton's once said that he 223 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: wore a new pair of socks every day. He never 224 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: wore the same pair of socks. I can see him 225 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: doing that. My good friend Andrew told me that once 226 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: moving on the ninja, Josh, you know what their their 227 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: main deal was you when they were best at assassination, Yes, 228 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: sneaking in and the dead of night and killing you 229 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: in your sleep sometimes. And my favorite story was, and 230 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: this one is not verified, but the the legend of 231 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: the ninja who hid beneath the outhouse and you know 232 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: what goes on beneath the outhouse? Yeah, he hit in 233 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: the pit, hit in the pit, and then the the 234 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: daimio came in obviously sat down on the john and 235 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: then then just struck from below with the sword. But 236 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: which is just that's not a comfort. My favorite part 237 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: of the story though it says, uh, it's probably not 238 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: true because historical record show that the daimio in question 239 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: probably died of a stroke or brain aneurysm. But I 240 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: think maybe if you had a sword stuck up your butt, 241 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: then maybe you might have a stroke or brain and 242 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I would have a stroke for sure, so maybe that 243 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: did happen. Plus also I could see his family trying 244 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: to keep that hush hush. Yeah, I would say so, 245 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: you know, but it made made the Daimio very paranoid, 246 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: right yeah. And actually they took a lot of measures 247 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: to protect against these ninja'sassiens that they always figured we're 248 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: coming for them. Like, um, there was one clan where 249 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: at their castle everyone had to wear long um I guess, 250 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: bell bottoms basically that made noise whenever you walked, So 251 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: anyone who was in the castle had to wear these 252 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: kind of corduroy bell bottoms pretty much. And I can 253 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: only imagine that they had an ample supply for visitors 254 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: if everybody had to use them, you know, and not 255 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: everyone was walking around with bell bottoms. I imagine they 256 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: had them for you, right, like drop your keys in 257 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: the bowl and put on these bell pots. I'm gonna 258 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: stay here right. Uh. The other one, a cool one 259 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: was in Kyoto. They had a the Nie Joe Castle 260 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: had what they called nightingale floors, and they were purposefully 261 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: squeaky the way they made these wooden floors, so the 262 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: people counterbalance, right, so anyone walking on them, even in 263 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: Ninja could be heard. Yes, And also the Daimio would 264 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: spend more and more time away from their home at 265 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: what they called Secret Springs, basically a little hidden resorts 266 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: at natural Springs. So it sounds like out of Ninja 267 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: the vacation resort, bell bottom jeans and squeaky floors were born. Nice, 268 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool. You wrap that up very nicely, So chuck 269 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: um the whole Um. I guess Samurai soared up the 270 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: bottom story that that it was probably a legend because 271 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: the guy probably died of an aneurism or stroke. Right. Um, 272 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: that kind of reveals that lower that has surrounded Ninja 273 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: forever and one of the things that um, they've been 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: attributed with or bestowed with their like supernatural powers. Right 275 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: of course that's not true, No, but it's fun and 276 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: like you said, earlier than Ninja loved it. They were like, yeah, 277 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: we're seven feet tall, and we can fly and become invisible. 278 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: Those are three. They could also walk through walls, which 279 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I imagine it would would really come in handy for 280 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: a Ninja, you know. But I mean, if you think 281 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: about it, if you're penetrating a castle that no one 282 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: else can get through. It probably seems a lot like 283 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: you can walk through walls. And then of course there's 284 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: the real basic go to one that there ghosts, yeah, 285 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: shape shifters. Did you ever read Um Commando comics? No? 286 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: There there was like they were from the seventies. I 287 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: think they were like just black and white comics set 288 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: in World War Two? Uh. And in one of them 289 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: that was this guy had to fight Ninja's in Burma, 290 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: Ninja and Burma and uh, it was pretty cool. Did 291 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: you ever say I was a little whiss boy with 292 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: the comics. I was like, I was into Archie and 293 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: Ritchie Rich what I know what awful and then stuff 294 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: like the Star Wars comics and stuff like that. But 295 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't try to cool it up now it's awful. 296 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: What it was a big Archie guy. I was a 297 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: little Baptist boy and Richie Rich. Yeah, Ritchie Rich was great. Yeah, 298 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: I like the cartoon. You never read the comic. Oh yeah, 299 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: I was a little wiss. Yeah, you were into ninja's 300 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: and stuff smoking cigarettes that I was reading Archie in 301 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: the Bible. Good for you. But here we are years later, 302 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: I know the same. We're both as twisted, alright, I've 303 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: been trying to get better, You've been trying to get worse. Yes, 304 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: and we met in the middle. Where are we now? 305 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: With their gear, I would say we're writting inja gear 306 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: and Chuck, I should say, Chuck has a several large 307 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: print outs of pictures of ninja gear that are just bitching. Yeah, 308 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and talk about some of these um ninja. Well, first, 309 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about their clothes, their uniform, the ninja yori, 310 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: your roy your roy roy. It is also called ninja armor, 311 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: and it's like the black jacket, black trousers, hooted cowl, 312 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: and light sandals. Not a lot of protection with that 313 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: the right word. Well, they said some of them were 314 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: light armor under that, right, but it's not much trust me, No, 315 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: it's cloth. Well, because they wanted to be sneaky and 316 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: not make a lot of noise, so armor probably wasn't 317 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: the best way to get around. And traditionally the your 318 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: roy was um black, although apparently there is some historical 319 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: evidence that they wore all white your roy which is 320 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool too in the snow if it were snowy. Yeah, sure, 321 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's know, you gotta put on the 322 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: white Euroy today and go kill people. However, Josh, most 323 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: of this is uh fanciful lore. Although they did have 324 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: these costumes, what they mainly wore they wanted to blend in, 325 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: so they mainly just dressed like you and I. Yeah, 326 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: that's an excellent point too, Like if you're going to 327 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: be an assassin um and you're in a public place, 328 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: if you're dressed like a ninja, people are going to 329 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: be like, look out for that ninja. Right. So yeah, 330 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: a lot of times they they they were apparently masters 331 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: at um hiding in plain sight. Yeah, disguised as priests 332 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: and merchants and farmers, which is you know, makes sense 333 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: to me because what was it that Henry Hill said? 334 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: He said, when you get killed, it's it's somebody who's 335 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: coming at you with a smile. Who's your friend? That's 336 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: who kills you? Sure? Yeah, Henry Hill, he comes up 337 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot. It's funny. Yeah. I never thought he would 338 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: come up in a ninja podcast. Uh. What else did 339 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: they use, Josh, the ninja to was the short sword. 340 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Then they were back, which is pretty cool. Yeah, used 341 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: to butcher people. And then here's what I have the 342 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: pictures of the shook go is this cool little claw 343 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: hand it's like claws on your palm you would wear 344 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: as a glove. And it says you can use to 345 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: fight or to climb trees with. Tell me, tell me 346 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: rope her head one of those. Really Huh. He tried 347 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: to climb trees once in a while to us ever success. 348 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: Really he could when he didn't have those on, like 349 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: he could just climb a tree, but just climbing like that, 350 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: it didn't work. Uh. And this is the tiger claw. 351 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: Those are cool. Yeah, that looks like Freddy Krueger wolverine 352 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: or something. That's exactly what it looks like. And it 353 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: would butcher you if put to your jugular. And what 354 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: are these? And this is my favorite? These are the 355 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: cow trops and these were they look sort of like 356 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: little metal sharp origami razor things. I was just about 357 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: to say orgamy they do. You got to leave it 358 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: to the Japanese. They have great design with everything. Yeah, 359 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: they're beautiful, including little tags meant to puncture your feet 360 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: and soles of your feet. Yeah, that's what you would do. 361 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: You would throw these on the floor, uh, for your 362 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: enemy to step on. And they apparently wore like the 363 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: sandals and the thin shoes, so that worked. And I 364 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: wish this were a video podcast because Chuck gave Jerry 365 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: and I had demonstration and what that would look like 366 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: when people were chasing the ninja. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They 367 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: also used smoke bombs and what else. The coolest thing 368 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: small one person boats that were collapsible, so they were 369 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: highly portable, so ninja would just be running away from people. 370 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: He's thrown his tax whatever, the tax call again? Uh? 371 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: The cow drops, right, He's thrown his cow drops and 372 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: they didn't work. A couple of guys got around and 373 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: he's reached a river. There's no bamboo and site. He 374 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: just whips out of his little boat and sails across 375 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: like so long, chumps. Pretty cool. I'll be back to 376 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: kill you when you're sleeping. Uh. The other thing that 377 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: has been refuted by the MythBusters I read was the 378 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: Mizzou gumo and they were wooden shoes to walk on 379 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: water with. They kind of look like snow shoes, actually 380 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: big round things and your foot goes in the middle 381 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: to disperse the water. Those MythBusters guys said, yeah, this 382 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: doesn't work. Did they try it out themselves? Yeah, of 383 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: course they did. It doesn't disprove anything that they should 384 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: be too fat. We should call that show the fun 385 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: Killers instead of the Mythbuss. Yeah, all they do is 386 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: destroy fun. But they said they could work on marsh 387 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: is what they said, Like, we'll give him something. Yeah, 388 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: of course there's the throwing star a k a. The 389 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: sugar ken. Yeah, and I didn't know this. I thought 390 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: that you know, when you see in the movies they 391 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 1: clearly always fling knees and right into somebody's forehead right 392 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: between the eyes. Yeah, that's really not true, was it. No, 393 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: Apparently they were just kind of a distracting weapon, like 394 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: it was meant to look like it was about to 395 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: hit you right between the eyes, but the chances of 396 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: it actually hitting its target are pretty low. So they 397 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: would turn around when being chased, throw a star at 398 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: them to distract them, and then drop some cow trops 399 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: on the floor in a smoke bomb maybe, And then 400 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: he's a grappling hook and a rope ladder to escape. 401 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: That's what they call the Schenectady Shuffle and Ninja lore 402 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: that combo right there. Really Yeah, so Chuck, there's the 403 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: grappling hook right which you can't leave out. Basically, if 404 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: you have all this stuff. You are a little white 405 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: kid in suburban America trying to be in ninja, because 406 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: if you're a stealthy guy and you're infiltrating a castle, 407 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to have all this stuff except maybe 408 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: your collapse will boat your colchrops and your little sword. Right. 409 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: But other than that, it seems like this was more 410 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: the arsenal that no ninja at any one time had 411 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: all these things on them, right. Yeah, But in the movies, 412 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: of course, that's how it's portrayed, because it's more fun 413 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: movies like Enter the Ninja, maybe the Ninja American Ninja? 414 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: Did you see that one? Did you watch ninja movies 415 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: as a kid? And now where were you, Chuck? I 416 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: told you I was reading Archie. American Ninja was awesome. 417 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I was watching, Uh, Escape from Which Mountain? And Archie? 418 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: That was a creepy movie that wasn't Escape from Which Mountain? 419 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: Well it did? It didn't age? Well you should go 420 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: watch it now and not the cruddy remake? Uh isn't 421 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: isn't like the rock In then? Of course that's Dwayne Johnson, 422 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: do you, buddy? What was the first movie? Though Josh 423 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: credited as being the first movie with the Ninja. Uh 424 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: you only lived twice. The James Bond movie it uh it. 425 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: And when the movie came out in nineteen seven, Ninja 426 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: just exploded in Western culture. Of course, because people that 427 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: go to see go to see the James Bond movies 428 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: are looking for any cool new thing anyway, So imagine 429 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: when they saw the Ninja, they were like, oh my gosh, 430 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: that's the coolest mercenary I've ever seen in my life. 431 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: They're like, click, those guys butchering everybody. Teenage mutant ninja turtles. 432 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: Of course I never got into them neither. And then chuck, 433 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: of course, Um, you probably haven't heard of this, but 434 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: there's this thing called g I Joe. I know, the 435 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: early g I Joe. We've been over this, the twelve 436 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: inch g I Joe with the kung fu grip, not 437 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: the tiny ones. They're not dolls, are action figures. What 438 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: you played with their dolls like, you can hug them 439 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: and cuddle them. You can't cuddle an action figure. And 440 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: they had bendable elbows and stuff like that. Did your 441 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: twelve Ventures have kung fu grip? Because a little acts 442 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 1: figures it too? Did they really? Huh? Yeah. Yeah, that's 443 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: where it started, buddy. Okay. Well, um. In the two series, 444 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: a little ninja was introduced known as Snake Eyes, who 445 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: worked on the good side. Oh really, I thought Snake 446 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Eyes was bad. No, you're thinking of storm Shadow. Storm 447 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Shadow is a cobra ninja. And actually I was looking 448 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: on Yo Joe dot com today. Have you ever told 449 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: that site? Oh my god, it's like nostalgia central, right, 450 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: I did see that new movie though, the Joe movie. 451 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: Is it out? It's out on video now. Was it 452 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: any good? No? Not really? Okay, and I love the 453 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: cartoon though I don't think any uh animation had more 454 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: of an impact on the development of my personality and 455 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, every time it came on, I was 456 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: just like, thank you God, thank you for letting me 457 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: be alive and at an age where I can fully 458 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: appreciate the g I Joe cartoon. See, I said the 459 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: same thing about Tom and Jerry. So that's where we 460 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: were so well again, let me let me go back 461 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: to uh Snake Eyes and storm Shadow. Storm Shadow is 462 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: clearly a ninja. Snake Eyes is listed on his file 463 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: card on the back of the package as a commando, 464 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: although he is proficient in bladed weapons and uh martial arts, 465 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: several martial arts. Right, so I'm thinking, why why would 466 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: he be called the commando? Is he not a ninja? 467 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: And I was gonna totally throw the smack down on 468 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: the Grabster for calling Snake Eyes a ninja in this article. 469 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: I did a little more digging. It turns out that 470 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: snow Job and Snake Eyes were once brothers in arms 471 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: for the same clan, and actually Snake Eyes is a 472 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: trained ninja, although he's also a commando. Yeah, and then 473 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: they went their separate ways. Uh, there was a little 474 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: bit of a falling out. They went their separate ways. Uh, 475 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: Storm Shadow of the Cobra Ninja actually went to work 476 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: for Cobra as a disguise to find who who killed 477 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the clan leader. Well yeah, and um, once he did 478 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: find out he was actually um brainwashed, he was discovered 479 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: as a as a spy. Uh, he was discovered brainwashed 480 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: and then actually did start working for Cobra. Snake Eyes 481 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: he always was on Joe Sigh. Dude, I did not 482 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: know that there was that much real information out there 483 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: about g I Joe. So this is all in the history. 484 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Someone's actually written that. Yeah, well there's like there's again 485 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: there's a comic series you're probably not aware of. Uh 486 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: and and yeah it's pretty storied. See. I was confused 487 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: when I watched the movie. I kept waiting for Joe, 488 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: kept waiting for Franco Harris to come out, you know 489 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: with a beard who Joe always look like Franco Harris 490 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: to me, the Pittsburgh Steeler running back. Wait a minute, 491 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who you're thinking of. Duke 492 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: was the closest to the well there was that was 493 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: the collective name of him. Yeah, I see. That just 494 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: confuses me because back in the day, back in the day, 495 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: Gi Joe was a dude, a single dude, right, But 496 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: then they just kind of said that sucks. Let's go 497 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: with the better version here, let's go with action figures, 498 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: Let's make the collective thing. Right. Did you see that 499 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: link to the stop action um Vietnam movie full link 500 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Vietnam movie that I did you see my reply to that? Yeah, 501 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: you made a movie I did. My brother and I 502 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: when we were six and nine years old, respectively, made 503 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: a stop motion Super eight movie with g I Joe 504 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: dolls and had a little plot and everything. What was 505 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: the plot. Um, we had this little shiny button and 506 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: the button represented like uh, micro film disc and they 507 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, it got stolen and Joe had to go 508 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: retrieve it from the bad guys. We shot it in 509 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: the woods near our house and it was pretty cool. 510 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: Do you have thereon now? There were no explosions. I 511 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: think we might have lit something on fire. I don't 512 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: know if it still exists. It's got to be somewhere, 513 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: but I don't want to see it. So, Scott, if 514 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: you're listening, if you have that, we would love to 515 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: see that, agreed Scott, But I don't think he has it. 516 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: We should probably get Path to Ninja, right, Is there 517 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: anything else there? There are a couple of things. Of course, 518 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: Ninja exploded in popular culture recently. It's a kind of 519 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: rival Pirates and Chuck Norris, right, well, that's what I hear. 520 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know about that though. So there's like that 521 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: site I just showed you real Ultimate Power about how 522 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: ninjas flip out and kill everybody. They're awesome and by awesome, mommy, 523 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: and totally sweet. It tells a It tells the story 524 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: of one ninja who was eating in a diner and 525 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: some guy dropped his spoon and then Ninja flipped out 526 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: and killed the whole town. Yeah, just stuff like that. 527 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: It's the great pirate versus a Ninja thing because someone 528 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: wrote in about that that one. I don't know. I 529 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: just I know that Asking Ninja took on. Uh. Asking 530 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: Ninja dot com is another site you can ask Ninja 531 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Ninja practical questions like how to work a new iPhone 532 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: app and stuff like that. But he does actually take 533 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: on the pirates on Pirate talk like a Pirate Day, 534 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: which we mentioned as well. So apparently there's some bad 535 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: blood between pirates and Ninja. My money is on the Ninja. Well, sure, 536 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: because they gets sneaking onto a pirate ship pretty easily. 537 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: I would. Pirates are all brash and Ninja just comes up, 538 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: puts the blade at the base of your skull, inserts 539 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: it into your brain, scrambles it dead. Pirates the pie 540 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: it's are all drunk on ram and Ninja. I don't 541 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: think they drank. No, they might hit the saki every 542 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: once in a while, but that's about it. And then 543 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: one last thing. If you're a true Ninja lover, there's 544 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: one place you have to be the first week of 545 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: April and that is in IgA at the Haku Hojoe 546 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: White Phoenix Castle known as the Ninja Museum. Yeah, they've 547 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: embraced I I guys really embraced their ninja roots and 548 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: they try to capitalize on that obviously. Yeah for money, 549 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Well why not. It's the root of all ninja. Yeah. 550 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: I went to that website. Museum website is pretty cool, 551 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: is it? But they have they have a festival and 552 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Ninja festival every year, including in Ninja parade. I want 553 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: to see that. I can see ninja like driving around 554 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: in a little shriner's car. Yeah, so that's ninja. That's it. Yeah. Great, 555 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: we covered just about everything. But if you want to 556 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: see some boss picks of ninja hiding in trees and 557 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: ninja weapons and stuff like that, you can type in 558 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: ninja and the handy search bar at how stuff Works 559 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: dot com. And uh, I guess now it's time for 560 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: listener mail. Huh. Yes, josh I got a short one. 561 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: I want to call this our Influence on the World. Nice, 562 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: this is pretty cool. You're gonna, I don't know if 563 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: you read this one or not, you're gonna love it. It 564 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: It just came in today, Chuck and josh I am 565 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: a geologist in Columbus, Ohio go buck Eyes, and I 566 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: often stumble across geo Is it cache? I always say 567 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: cations catch. I think you can say either one, and 568 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I often stumble across geo cashes when I'm out in 569 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: the field during research. I always follow all of the 570 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: geo cashing rules and signed the log book along with 571 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: usually leaving something behind for others to find. This time, however, 572 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: I was a little different. It was a little different 573 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: because when I opened the sealed plastic container, I found 574 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: a key chain, a deck of cards, bottle caps into 575 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: Carlos Santana c d's. So so awesome. I thought this 576 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: is a little odd until I remembered your podcast on 577 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: geo cashing caching from last year when YouTube joked about 578 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: putting Santana c d's. So wait, we put a should 579 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: we go to should we go back and listen to 580 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: one part? Sure? So, like, if your average hiker happens 581 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: upon this box full of Santana c d's and they're thinking, wow, 582 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: I can just take d c d someone left these, 583 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: this is awesome. So there it is. And apparently, uh, 584 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: and that wasn't the only time we mentioned Santana c 585 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: D several times several times, and j D from Columbus says, 586 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: I thought I would let you know that at least 587 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: two Geo catching fans in Columbus listen to your podcast 588 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: and it was awesome to sort of meet one of them. 589 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: That's cool. I don't think that's coincidence to you. I 590 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: don't see how it could be a Santanas c D 591 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: and a Geo cash Are you joking? Yeah? Yeah, I 592 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: think that was our influence directly. I agree. Pretty cool. 593 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: You know, we've had another um another influence on somebody 594 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: in I believe Slovakia. Not sure, I think so. Uh, 595 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: there's a guy who wrote in and he founded a 596 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: site called weird Worm and actually started a podcast and 597 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. You should listen to it, and he 598 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: attributes it directly to being inspired by us. Very cool. Yeah, 599 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: so you should check out weird worm dot com and 600 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: their accompanying podcast to watch. They're going to overtake us 601 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: in the ratings immediately. Yeah, sorry, thanks a lot. 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