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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya red An I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio podcast. Hello everybody, we're scrubbing In and it's

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Speaker 1: a Thursday episode and we have Leila Ponds on the

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Speaker 1: podcast today. If you don't know La Lay she is.

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Speaker 1: She has her hand and everything. She's an actor, she's

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Speaker 1: a singer, she's a dancer, she's a social media personality

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Speaker 1: and creator. I don't know if there's anything she hasn't done. Um,

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Speaker 1: so we are going to be chatting with her today

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Speaker 1: and we're so excited, so we'll get right into that.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody today scrubbing In, we have Leila Pons

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Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you guys. I

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Speaker 1: went to introduce you and I was like, she's a singer,

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Speaker 1: she's a dancer. Yeah, what do you say? But you

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Speaker 1: know what, you don't need to define yourself because you

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Speaker 1: don't like to entertain Yeah, you don't need to do

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Speaker 1: You don't need to box yourself on box. Everybody needs

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Speaker 1: to unbox themselves. Like, you don't have to just be

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Speaker 1: one thing. You can be many things. But I like

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Speaker 1: entertainer because I think you do that on every platform

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Speaker 1: you do. You're an entertainer. Thank you so much. Guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're so funny, You're I mean, you're so talented for

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Speaker 1: people who I don't know how they couldn't know who

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Speaker 1: you are, but people who don't know where did you start?

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Speaker 1: Like what what was it that brought you to this

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Speaker 1: level of fame? Um Vine which is so like every

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Speaker 1: single time someone was like, I've watched it when I

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Speaker 1: was a little girl on Vine, I was like, how

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Speaker 1: So everybody was like, you know, you know, twelve and thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Now they're all grown up. So I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm honored to have been in the Vine train because

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Speaker 1: influenced by vuying and after buying, when you know left,

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Speaker 1: Instagram started being you know, we and videos started like happening,

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Speaker 1: and then a lot of the buners became right YouTubers

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like, did you have one video that

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Speaker 1: went by? Like was it one video that went viral?

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Speaker 1: And then everything beyond there took off or was it

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Speaker 1: like a couple of viral hills. I don't think any

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Speaker 1: video that I can remember when viral. It just I always.

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Speaker 1: I posted two times a day, every single day. You

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Speaker 1: must have seen it, you know what I mean. When

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Speaker 1: But I was just so consistent. It wasn't just one

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Speaker 1: It was so slow, such a slow process, which is like,

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Speaker 1: that's when people ask me, how did you get where

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Speaker 1: you got? I can't say overnight. It took me ten years,

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Speaker 1: exactly ten years to get where I am. You know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that how much work goes

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Speaker 1: You also, you have to be careful with the content

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Speaker 1: don't call before. Now you can copy anybody because it's TikTok.

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Speaker 1: But before, if you copied any idea, you would be

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Speaker 1: you know, like that. You know, so it was very

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Speaker 1: important to create an idea that no one has seen before.

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Speaker 1: When to post what type of audience you want to entertain,

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Speaker 1: you know, many people say like that's not a talent,

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Speaker 1: I think. I think there's so many talented people and

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Speaker 1: when you were able to influence, how did you do that?

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Speaker 1: You know? Do you when you um because you said

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Speaker 1: navigate that line of like privacy versus what you share

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Speaker 1: like when it comes to like maybe you argued with

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Speaker 1: those things, but who I am? My body, um, what

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Speaker 1: talk about your cellulite photos because I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about like when you first posted the first one that

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Speaker 1: Like in your head? I was like, this is so normal,

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Speaker 1: be open and honest about it. I'm super honest about it. Um. People,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's so crazy. People have their their opinions

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Speaker 1: And I guess what We've all gone through really bad days.

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Speaker 1: So you can't tell me you are always always, always positive,

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Speaker 1: you know always, you know it's so true, and I

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Speaker 1: you know the I love TikTok, But one of the

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Speaker 1: things about TikTok is it'll be like someone rating celebrities

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Speaker 1: they met one time, and it's like if they had

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Speaker 1: a horrible experience. Now this post has gone viral and

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Speaker 1: everyone thinks they're a horrible person because maybe they were

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Speaker 1: having a day that they didn't want to maybe yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. It just it happens a lot with select

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Speaker 1: grab them in the worst moment and that's who they

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Speaker 1: are forever, you know. Yeah, but again, I mean I

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Speaker 1: do have to say, like I get it, everybody has

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Speaker 1: bad days and I understand that. But also if you

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Speaker 1: are that big of a celebrity and you're going out

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Speaker 1: in the public, you have to accept it and you

440
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Speaker 1: just need to be kind and just know that, like

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Speaker 1: your interactions with people are going to get out there.

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Speaker 1: Like that's just it is what it is. Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: I think some people's expectations. It's like you can be kind,

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Speaker 1: which is like, Hi, it's so nice to meet you,

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Speaker 1: and someone's like she barely said anything, she barely talked

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Speaker 1: to me, and it's like that wasn't enough for them.

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Speaker 1: So it's like you granted, and when you're a celebrity,

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Speaker 1: you do have to expect that you're held to a

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Speaker 1: certain standard. But I do sometimes watch those things and think,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I they're one and counter. One of

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Speaker 1: the main poems I've always had is that I'm someone

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Speaker 1: that has a lot of a d D. I'm distracted.

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Speaker 1: You can say hi to me and I might not

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Speaker 1: even hear you, and it looks bad. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I have Actually now I have a team who tells

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Speaker 1: me that girl just said how do you? And I

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Speaker 1: turn around and I say, how are you? I'm so

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Speaker 1: sorry I ignored you. I have that type of team.

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Speaker 1: I know I didn't back then, because sometimes you're walking

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Speaker 1: someone's like, hey, no' You're like somewhere else. And then

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Speaker 1: I have Manuin who's my pr It's like a person

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Speaker 1: just said how do you? And I'm just like, I'm

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Speaker 1: so sorry. You know. That's something I do struggle with.

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Speaker 1: I'm so distracted in my mind what's going on in

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Speaker 1: that day that I'm thinking about that thing and I'm

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Speaker 1: only focused on that thing, And I can come up

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Speaker 1: as someone that will not say how do you? But

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Speaker 1: thank god, I'm telling you, I have a team. He's

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Speaker 1: that and it's aware more than me. And that's important

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Speaker 1: to have that support system that can actually help you

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Speaker 1: in that moment. Now, if I see you and you

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Speaker 1: tell me how how are you? And I look away

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Speaker 1: when I see you. You know, that's another thing. Don't

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Speaker 1: do that. Don't do that. But I try really hard,

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Speaker 1: because there's when your celebrity. First of all, you you

476
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Speaker 1: should know that you're famous and you know and you

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Speaker 1: have to be polite. Oh it's because it's the truth.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing. But at the same time, when there's

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Speaker 1: so many people talking to you, you might talk to

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Speaker 1: five and not the other five, right, because that's also

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Speaker 1: important to know. You can't you can't say hi to everybody.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could be like hi to everybody, but

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really impossible when you do have

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Speaker 1: many many people talking to you at the same time.

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Speaker 1: The ones I feel bad about that were the tipping

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Speaker 1: ones when they like put people on like celebrities on

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Speaker 1: blast for being like bad tippers. There's an excuse for that,

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Speaker 1: but also like just because bad tippers. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: get like, thank god, I've never that, that has never

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Speaker 1: happened to me. Tipping actually got into because I do

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Speaker 1: I don't know what how much do you tip them?

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Speaker 1: And I'm ti I asked them how much do you

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Speaker 1: usually get tipped? I'll give you that exactly like you

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Speaker 1: get I'm really bad at that standard is usually twenty.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll be good. You'll you'll stay out of

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Speaker 1: the like, yeah, as long as you're doing I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: what do you want? You're tip? You're like, give me

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Speaker 1: a number and they gave you know, I like that

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Speaker 1: all the time. Um, you are in a committed relationship?

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Speaker 1: Is this correct? Yeah? Are you you like? Because you

501
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Speaker 1: were probably I'm assuming speculated. Your dating life was very public.

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Speaker 1: Everyone wanted you with whoever you were posting videos with.

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Speaker 1: How did you meet your boyfriend? He? We met um

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Speaker 1: in a music video that I was doing and he

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Speaker 1: came because his friend was doing it with me. And

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Speaker 1: you know, just like we met, we became really good friends.

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Speaker 1: And then we Discipina, which was the song, and we

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Speaker 1: clicked a lot. You know, we had always tension. It

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Speaker 1: was something. There was this guy and we like have

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Speaker 1: something and he's just you know, I like him because

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Speaker 1: he's so brutally honest, and he doesn't tell me what

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Speaker 1: I want to hear, tell me what I should hear.

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Speaker 1: And it's so difficult to find people that don't want

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Speaker 1: to please you because you you're famous or anything. You know,

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Speaker 1: they don't want to hurt your feelings. This guy hurts me,

516
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Speaker 1: like my feelings like, you did this wrong. You're you

517
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Speaker 1: did a mistake, you know, and that's what you need

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Speaker 1: in life, someone to be completely honest with you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think being able to hold each other accountable is

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Speaker 1: it is a quality that is overlooked a lot of

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Speaker 1: times because I think, especially in your position, you've probably

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Speaker 1: dated people who were like, I'm not even going to

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Speaker 1: correct her because I don't want Yeah, I don't want

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Speaker 1: many people people didn't want to tell me the truth.

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Speaker 1: Any people, you know, they were like, oh, she's a

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Speaker 1: she's a she's saying that she I don't want to

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Speaker 1: know her to like, it doesn't matter, honestly that I

528
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: respect so much people that are real because it's so

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Speaker 1: hard to find, my god, people that I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've navigated so so many people who are

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Speaker 1: not real in this industry, So I'm sure you you're

532
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Speaker 1: very easily able to spot real, genuine connection when you

533
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Speaker 1: experience it, because you've probably had a lot of the opposite. Yeah,

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00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: and I can I feel like when I meet a fan,

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Speaker 1: or when I meet a supporter that like kind of

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Speaker 1: like not only takes a picture but stops to talk

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Speaker 1: to me. Love it? Yeah, I love it. I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about something else. You know, it doesn't

539
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Speaker 1: even talk about me. How is your life? Love it? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's good to note for people. If you see she's

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Speaker 1: UM for a conversation. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk. UM.

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Speaker 1: What are you working on right now? What's exciting? What's

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Speaker 1: coming up? Where can people find you? UM? I'm working

544
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: on UM. I just did Exposure, which was a YouTube

545
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: series UM with Samson, UM, Samsung and UM doing I

546
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Speaker 1: don't I can't say anything about music, but there's something

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Speaker 1: coming up that I've been working on it. It's a

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00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: huge project for January. There's a really big project. It

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00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: takes a long time. Oh yeah, that's very exciting. So

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00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: that and then a Netflix Netflix series that I'm doing

551
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: that I did in London that's going to come out

552
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: around September, I think. And then I just want to

553
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Speaker 1: be happy with my boyfriend in Europe doing something like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I go to Tomorrowland. I'm gonna go

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00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: to to Moreland. That feels it wait, where are you? Where?

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Speaker 1: Where do you? Where do you live? Like? Where are

557
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: you based? Okay, okay, yeah Tomorrowland. I feel I feel

558
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Speaker 1: that could happen for you. Um, I feel like you

559
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: can make that happen. Um well, where can people find

560
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: you on Instagram and TikTok? And you do like is

561
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Speaker 1: everything under your name? Yes, lill pans, everything is just

562
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Speaker 1: like not nice and we to secure the good. I

563
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Speaker 1: feel like no one's name. Yeah, but if you know,

564
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: like these cruel people will immediately the name so that

565
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Speaker 1: you have to like buy it or something. Well, I'm

566
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Speaker 1: glad you have to deal with that. Um. I just

567
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: I started so early. Yeah, you were the original Steeler. Yeah. Well,

568
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Speaker 1: I so appreciate we are so appreciate you coming on

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Speaker 1: and chatting with us. And I am a fan of

570
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: you and love what you do and I um, I'm

571
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: always rooting for you and hope that everything that you

572
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: have moving forward is a success, which I feel very

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Speaker 1: confident about. Thank you so much, Thank you talk more alright,

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Speaker 1: thanks lately so much, Thank you guys so much. Thank

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Speaker 1: you all. Run by M