WEBVTT - "I’M TRAPPED IN MY RELATIONSHIP"

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. Wow, Uh, yep, Hi, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Shae?

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<v Speaker 1>Shae? What's happening in Shane?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Not much. I mean, I want to start out

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<v Speaker 3>by saying, I really appreciate what.

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<v Speaker 2>You do for people.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, man, Thanks man. I'm trying my best. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, I don't know. Uh, It's it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do a podcast. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's up with you, Shae?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm going through some stuff right now, and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I'm looking for some advice. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dropped in my relationship right now, and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like there's not much I can do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I'll tell you what I've you know, been

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<v Speaker 1>saying for a while, which is that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I'll always have advice. I think if anyone, I

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<v Speaker 1>think anyone who always has advice for everything is not

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<v Speaker 1>to be trusted. But I'll gladly pond. I'll gladly ponder

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<v Speaker 1>the situation with you. Why do you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in your relationship?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, him and I have been together for almost two

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<v Speaker 3>years now, and about a year in we decided to

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<v Speaker 3>move to a whole different state across the country to

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<v Speaker 3>live with my parents so we could save up some

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<v Speaker 3>money to get a house. But now that we are here,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of coming to realize that I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>more of a parent than I do a partner. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so like simple things like having to remind him to

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<v Speaker 3>go to the doctor and to clean up after him

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<v Speaker 3>and laundry and all the stuff that I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we should be doing together, and there's just kind of nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have communicated this with him, I communicate everything

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel, but it just doesn't get through.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that we're all.

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<v Speaker 3>The way over here, I don't exactly have any plan

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<v Speaker 3>if things were to end, If that make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so let me get a few things straight here.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, when you say you don't have any plans

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<v Speaker 1>if things were to end, do you work or are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys in a thing where like he works or

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<v Speaker 1>neither of you works, or like, what's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like financial arrangement.

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<v Speaker 3>When we moved, I wasn't able to transfer my job

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<v Speaker 3>from here, but he was so has been consistently looking

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<v Speaker 3>for work, but I am unemployed.

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<v Speaker 2>I make some money online.

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<v Speaker 3>But not much so in he's kind of ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>financials right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you guys have been together for two.

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<v Speaker 2>Years almost two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And when you attempt to communicate with him, being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought we were going to do the

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<v Speaker 1>laundry together. I thought we were gonna clean up shit together,

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<v Speaker 1>what does he say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he says, I'm sorry. He says, my mom didn't

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<v Speaker 3>teach me how to do these things. He says, so

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<v Speaker 3>get better. He maybe does one thing the following week,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he thinks that like, doing that singular thing

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<v Speaker 3>has changed him so much and he's so much better now,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, But then nothing else happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I remind him again, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Have another question. Well, you said you feel trapped, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>on a scale from one to ten, how badly do

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<v Speaker 1>you actually want to make this work?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how badly do you want to make it work?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like got a solid live oh right in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you said, pretty pretty evenly, it's pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty even Yeah, because you know I love them, but

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<v Speaker 3>also I don't necessarily want to be taking care of

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<v Speaker 3>another person for the rest of my life, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>we plan on having a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, also the fact that you even said, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you even framed this as I'm trapped, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's just the way that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that you even like the fact that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you naturally described the situation is not

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<v Speaker 1>a great sign no, because you didn't I have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with my significant other. He's doing this. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trapped in a relationship that's a bad outside.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the reason why I use the term trapped

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<v Speaker 3>is because, so, like I had mentioned, we live with

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<v Speaker 3>my parents here and between the both of us we

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<v Speaker 3>share a car. It's the car is technically mine, but

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<v Speaker 3>he uses a car for work because he's the one

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<v Speaker 3>that makes the money. So while he's at work all day,

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<v Speaker 3>I am stuck here and I don't have any freedom

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<v Speaker 3>to go and make friends or go socialize with anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. So I think that's why I use the

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<v Speaker 3>term trap. But I think I probably used it incorrectly

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<v Speaker 3>to describe the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense, Well, you are describing a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>in which you are describing a relationship in which you

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<v Speaker 1>are relating upon your partner's financial resources right to exist correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, which is another issue of if I leave, I

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<v Speaker 3>leave my health insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but you don't want to be with your husband

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<v Speaker 1>for his health insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not want to be with my boyfriend for

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<v Speaker 3>his health insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, do you well, let me ask you that,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have well, what's your family situation? Like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have savings or a family that you can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fall back on.

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of put our savings together for putting a

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<v Speaker 3>down payment on a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, you guys are really in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're we're trying. But now I'm kind of having

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<v Speaker 3>second guesses with this full you know, being a grown.

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<v Speaker 1>Up man when you say that you put your savings, like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys put it down payment on a house

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<v Speaker 1>or where?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are those savings?

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<v Speaker 3>It is in a savings account that he recently just

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<v Speaker 3>started putting things into again, because I recently found out

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<v Speaker 3>that he wasn't putting his half of savings in that account.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't putting his half of savings in that account.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had made a deal that when we moved here,

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<v Speaker 3>he would be putting a good chunk of every paycheck

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<v Speaker 3>into that savings account. And we found out about two

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<v Speaker 3>months ago or sorry, two weeks ago that he was

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<v Speaker 3>not actually putting anything in there, and he was using

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<v Speaker 3>that money to chip away at his own debt.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know he had debt when you guys intertwined

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<v Speaker 1>your finances.

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<v Speaker 3>I was aware of student loans, but I wasn't aware

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<v Speaker 3>of he took out. I don't know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>called like a predatory loan something, and I wasn't aware

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<v Speaker 3>of how urgently that was to be paid back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a lot, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, that's well, you know what a few things is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the concept of like I think all of

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<v Speaker 1>this is like, this is just my opinion, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I've been talking to you for nine minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have said that you love your husband. But

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<v Speaker 1>it does feel like a lot of the drivers of

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship are purely obligation. They're less about love, They're

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<v Speaker 1>less about, you know, some kind of spiritual commitment. They're

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<v Speaker 1>less about, you know, working as a team or less

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, having a life that's better together than

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<v Speaker 1>a part, and more about obligation. Is that accurate when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at your gut, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know it definitely there's definitely a portion that feels like

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, it feels like there's less time investing

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<v Speaker 3>in affection and romance and just like you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>typical things in a relationship and more so on like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, it's like obligation.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you want to I mean, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>babying him and the specifics of the laundry and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you want to be with this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like you have that hope in you

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<v Speaker 3>that people will change the better for the room mental help,

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<v Speaker 3>but they don't. And I know that they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I know you hope that you hope that people change.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they do, by the way, you know, sometimes they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I said they don't. But sometimes I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said they don't. Sometimes they do, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I I absolutely believe that people change, and I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>believe the people evolve, and I believe the relationships evolve.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have to want to. And you also, like

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be sitting there with your asshole out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, waiting for the change to happen. So is

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<v Speaker 1>there any paperwork between you guys on all this financial

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<v Speaker 1>ship or it's all just hanging out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have access to this savings account that has

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<v Speaker 1>your money in it?

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and okay, so you have access to Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a joint account under both of you guys name

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys are not you guys aren't even married.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we are not married.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so your assets, your assets are not really intertwined, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all just cast.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's this. The financials are not the main thing

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<v Speaker 3>in jeopardy. They are a big factor into things.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's more like.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm losing my mind in this whole relationship,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not sure where. I'm not sure what my

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<v Speaker 3>next step is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're looking for a job, right, I am, well,

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<v Speaker 1>because I guess the next step is is uh if

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<v Speaker 1>you well, there's a few next steps. I mean one

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<v Speaker 1>is there's two paths you can go down. One path

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<v Speaker 1>is to decide that you want to make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean two years, two years, two years, two years

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<v Speaker 1>ain't that many years for my parents my parents were together?

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, God, no, sorry, I was just gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>for me, two years is is abit?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say this is probably my second longest

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<v Speaker 3>relationship twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you're twenty six. Yes, you're twenty six?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Well did you think I was?

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<v Speaker 1>I swear I thought you were like forty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought you're you're twenty you're twenty six years old? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, leeah yeah. Leave, Oh my god, leave,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Leave, Oh my god, leave, leave leave, leave, leave, leave, leave, leave, leave,

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<v Speaker 1>leave leave leave. I thought you were like forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were like, look, it's either this guy or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting cats. No, you're leave. Please leave, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, please leave. Jesus Christ, twenty six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something. What's your name again? Such

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<v Speaker 1>with an S, say Shay Shay. My parents were together

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<v Speaker 1>for eleven years before they got divorced, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they got divorced when they were My mom and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad got divorced when they were in their like the

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<v Speaker 1>late forties, mid to late forties, and now they're both

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<v Speaker 1>remarried to people that they're much happier with. They were

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<v Speaker 1>together eleven years and they were in their mid they were.

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<v Speaker 1>To imagine that eleven years in their late forties, You

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been together for two and you're twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye oh my god, No, you're not trapped in this

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Holy shit, and you have you're not even

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<v Speaker 1>there's no and you have access to the bank account

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not and you're not married. Correct, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you should. I I don't usually give a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>strong opinions on here, but you should totally leave for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, twenty four, he's twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course he'll this is he's he'll he'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be so f you'll both be so fine. He's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. That's nothing, because here's what happens, right, is

0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you leave this guy and then he learns. Maybe maybe if.

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<v Speaker 5>He's lucky, if he's the thing, if he's not a

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<v Speaker 5>total dumbass, he'll learn right, and he'll be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>next time I get into a relationship with someone, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna have my shit.

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<v Speaker 1>To god, I'm gonna make sure that when they tell

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<v Speaker 1>me these things, you know, he'll be sad for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but he'll be fine. Both of you will be fucking

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<v Speaker 1>fine with this. Oh my god, I can't believe you're

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<v Speaker 1>literally I thought you were at least like.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I can I can I ask why you thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was that old.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were that old. I maybe just imagined,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just the the situation when you said you were trapped.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, okay, I could see that if

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<v Speaker 1>you I could I could see feeling that way, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were like older more so than than younger.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so. So maybe I had just been viewing this

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<v Speaker 3>a much bigger situation than it actually was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, not that. I mean it, look, everything's big

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<v Speaker 1>in relativity, right, So it's big to you. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is your first like you know, this is you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a relationship that's lasted this long. Two years feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot. So it's big to you. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's a valid thing. But uh no, you

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<v Speaker 1>not trapped yet. You could be so much more trapped.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be you could be so much more trapped.

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<v Speaker 1>You have no idea. You're so not trapped. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, here's the thing, right is uh and whatever? Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I've only known you for seventeen minutes. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about that these these these are important

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<v Speaker 1>life decisions and you have a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 1>make them. And I think that one of the important

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<v Speaker 1>life decision. I think that who you're gonna be committed to,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an it's an important life decision. And I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>young too, and so I'm figuring all this shit out.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are important life decisions, and these are decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that you should feel really confident and strong about. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're in a relationship that you feel

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<v Speaker 1>obligated to or that you feel obligated to or trapped in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's such a strong way to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that's supposed to be a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>your life and you're and also like you seem like

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you haven't really had much of an opportunity to like

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<v Speaker 1>develop yourself, right, I mean you are taking your You're

0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:22.760
<v Speaker 1>taking your like your money is now your guys's money.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you sound like you don't have like money of

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<v Speaker 1>your own that's yours. Like you don't have a job

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<v Speaker 1>of your own that's yours. Like you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that, like we this isn't like the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking nineteen you know, fucking twenties or whatever. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that, Like you can develop your own shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to. You don't need to do a

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<v Speaker 1>guy's laundry to survive on your own.

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<v Speaker 3>And totally beforehand, I had, you know, my own self established.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had my job in my car and

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<v Speaker 3>doing whatever I you know, whatever made me happy and

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<v Speaker 3>not cleaning up after another person. It's you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>I could do that one like in definitely do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can a one hundred percent do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe. I literally I thought you were like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine years old and this was like your last chance. No,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I would do is is like you should go.

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<v Speaker 1>You should. If I were you, I would take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and be like and it'd be like, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get myself right, I gotta get my I need my money,

0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I need my car, I need my health insurance, I

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<v Speaker 1>need my job, I need my life. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>then once you have your own life together, be really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really careful. I don't Maybe maybe this guy learns

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<v Speaker 1>his lesson and he gets back to himself, and maybe

0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you guys are separated for a little bit and you're like, Okay,

0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.399
<v Speaker 1>I'll give it another chance. But if I'm going, if

0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.840
<v Speaker 1>we're going back into this. We're going in. I got

0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.440
<v Speaker 1>my own ship, You got your own ship, and we're

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:09.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna slowly, you know, weave our lives together a little bit,

0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it really carefully,

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna do it really intentionally, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that neither of us feels like we're getting shifted.

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Because you're feeling like you're getting shifted. Your husband's out

0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:23.560
<v Speaker 1>there with the car and you're feeling like you're you're shifted.

0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:24.919
<v Speaker 1>You don't have your own ship, you don't have your

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<v Speaker 1>own life. You you have to ask for permission from

0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>this other fucking guy who and he's not supposed to

0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.200
<v Speaker 1>be the guardian of your assets. He's supposed to be

0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:39.520
<v Speaker 1>your partner, you know. And so you got to do

0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it again. And you're so unbelievably not trapped. It's it's honestly,

0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything's relative. So it's a big to you

0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's the longest thing you've been in, so it's relative,

0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 1>but sure you're you're not trapped at all. You have

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<v Speaker 1>the complete freedom, obligation, opportunity to be like, hey, I

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:01.720
<v Speaker 1>think I made a little and this is life is

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<v Speaker 1>just error correction. So it's okay, it's something shameful in

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 1>being like, you know what, I made a bit of

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a misstep going too hard in this Uh too fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tracked a little bit. I do you have

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<v Speaker 1>parents you can move back in with.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we're living. We're living with my parents right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, wait, hold on, I'm sorry. I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you guys. I thought you guys were living

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<v Speaker 1>with his parents.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no, no, no never, no.

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<v Speaker 6>No, we were staying with my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an idiot. Oh my god, you guys are living

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<v Speaker 1>with your parents?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yeah, Who the fuck is this guy? Well, there's.

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:55.359
<v Speaker 3>We This was a solid plan beforehand, our parents, my

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 3>parents weren't going to have us pay rent here for

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<v Speaker 3>six months, and that was with how much he makes

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.119
<v Speaker 3>and how much I was hypothetically going to make. We

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 3>were going to put it down the payment on a

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<v Speaker 3>house here. So like everybody was cool with this. It

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.399
<v Speaker 3>was fine, and like he was okay with this, But

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<v Speaker 3>now it's just kind of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, what do you what do you? I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>do your parents think about this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Mom fucking hates Yeah, your mom hates.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your mom fucking of course, your mom fucking hates

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. By the way, I just want you, I

0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.399
<v Speaker 1>want to say this because I you, I think you

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.959
<v Speaker 1>do love this guy. I think it's I you can

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.200
<v Speaker 1>totally totally love And I don't think this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of ship. I just think, you know, I

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's You can totally totally love someone and

0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you really deeply love someone and have a deep connection

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:55.840
<v Speaker 1>with them and be and be and be incompatible, uh

0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 1>logistically in life, and you know that's the thing. It's

0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.679
<v Speaker 1>totally a thing. And this guy's twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four, twenty five next month.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let him be a dumb ass. Let him be

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a dumb ass, and he's gonna be fine, you know. Yeah,

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of course it makes total sense that your mom hates

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy. But the I the idea of like, let me,

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stay at home with my first of all,

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>living in homely parents, saving up money. If you're privileged

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be able to do that, it's a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>it's a life hack. It's a great opportunity, amazing opportunity,

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and you should totally take it, you know. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>you and you're what you're looking for jobs, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I am relentlessly looking for a job. Any excuse

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:52.879
<v Speaker 3>to not be trucked in the house all day?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And what's the deal with this car? You guys

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:55.960
<v Speaker 1>bought it together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my car, it's your car. Yes, he was leasing

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 3>a car before we moved and we weren't able to

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.920
<v Speaker 3>take both cars. And because I own my car, that

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 3>is the one that we use. That's like the only

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 3>one we have. So he uses my car to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to his job.

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Why does it he has a Why does then he buy.

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 2>His own car.

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 3>Because he spent all his money on his debt instead

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 3>of putting any amount of it in the savings without

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 3>telling anyone.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm losing my mind here, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta like I'm I try, I try really hard

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to remain agnostic on this show. But then you gotta

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>leave this guy.

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:52.239
<v Speaker 2>You can.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta leave it. You gotta kick this guy out

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<v Speaker 1>of your parents?

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<v Speaker 6>Does it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's his parents house? Does he is he have a

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<v Speaker 1>good relationship with his parents?

0:23:59.760 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he? Does he have a good enough relationship with

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 1>his parents that he can like.

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, his mom begs him to move back in.

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, tell this guy to go move back in with

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>his parents, his parents. He didn't. He's not over here like,

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 1>oh my parents beat me or whatever. Right, Okay, tell

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 1>this guy, Tell this guy to leave, Tell this guy

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to go leave it home with his parents and give

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you back your fucking car. And you and I know

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the job market success. But eventually, you're working really hard,

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you'll eventually find some way to make money. And then

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you can be twenty six living at your parents' house,

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you have your own fucking car. You'll eventually find a

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>way to make what you're making money online. You don't

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>have to. I don't know what you're doing, but you

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>know what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>It's to start. Okay, great, amazing condition like that, right, yeah.

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Amazing, amazing. All right, So you go make your own money,

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>say say to him, hey, let's and we gotta do

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>our own thing.

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 3>And he go.

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.959
<v Speaker 1>He goes, lives back home with his mom, figures out

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>his life, he's got a job. He'll do the same

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>thing that you're doing, making money living at home with

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>his parents. But yeah, you' you don't want this. Fucking guys,

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing in this for you. There's nothing. There's nothing

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>in this for you. There's nothing in this for you,

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and you'll be able to build up your own ship.

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>This is good for him too, because because he it's

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>okay that this guy's kind of a dumbass and has debt.

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, Sure, he'll figure it out. You're both really young,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>so you both figure it out. But he's got to

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>figure it out on his own and not rope a

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other people into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you're right.

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 1>So you know I, by the way, I I must

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I must be the like sixth person that's told you

0:25:58.760 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to leave this guy.

0:25:59.560 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I actually haven't talked to anybody about this except

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>my mom. I felt like I needed some kind of

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 3>different outside perspective from someone that wasn't you know, a

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 3>friend that has heard me bitch about this person before.

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 3>So I, you know, I really like your show. I

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 3>like the the you know word you have. So I figured,

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, why not? And I figured you were going

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 3>to say what you said.

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Yeah, of course you did. Of course you did,

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's you know what you know why. I think

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you figured that I was going to say what you

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>is because you already know all this. And then the problem.

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>The problem is nothing logistic, right, The problem isn't isn't isn't.

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>This is not a knowledge based problem. This isn't a

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>problem where we don't have all of the informa. This

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 1>is a very emotional problem.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not that we don't. It's not you know in

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>your heart everything I already said before I even said

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>it to you, and because you were you were, Yeah,

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you already know all this stuff in your gut. The

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>problem is not, oh, I don't know what decision to make.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>You already know what decision to make. The problem is

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the emotional quotet of having to make that decision. And yeah,

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that's really hard because there's so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Time put into something like that and then it's thrown away.

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>There's not actually that much time put into this. There's

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>not actually much time, but it feels like a lot

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of time to It feels like a lot of time

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to you, But it's not that much time. A, it's

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>not that much time.

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<v Speaker 7>And B.

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<v Speaker 1>Please remember life is error correction. So the making of

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the errors, the quote unquote wasting of the time was

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>all part of the process of being a living human

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>navigating the world. So it wasn't wasted time.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've already taken up about thirty minutes at your time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do want to say thank you for your words,

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 3>and once again, I really do appreciate what you do

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 3>for other people. I think you're a cool person.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, and yeah, I'm sorry I've asked you ten times,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>but what's your name one more time? It's such an

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>as Sarah Sha Shae Shae Shay. Give us a call back,

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>let me know what happens. I'm curious.

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Thank you so much for your time.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, good luck, shame, thank you bye. That was

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>so funny when she was like, my mom hates this guy,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>but of course your mom hates this guy. Again. I

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think this is a bad guy. I don't think

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>he's a piece of shit. I just think, you know,

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't have a shit together, and you gotta

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>get you He's got to get your shit together without,

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially if his mom is begging him to

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<v Speaker 1>come back home.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was no. I was really bummed out by

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that call because I thought that caller was sixty seven

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:20.719
<v Speaker 1>years old and this was like her last shot at

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a relationship or whatever. But that's no. I hope, I

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>hope she gives herself the space for them both to

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>independently get their shit together, and I I wish, I

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>wish i'd heard more about her mom's perspective on the situation.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, thanks for calling Shy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hi.

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>What's your name? My name is Jessica, Jessica, what's up?

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>How's life?

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Life is the most amazing ever.

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm so last and so happy and full of joy.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>How are you?

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Why you sound like strawberry shortcake or something? Why why

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>are you? Why so good?

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm literally drinking a strawberry lemonade Sativa, and neverminds you

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 6>of a strawberry shortcake. So I just turned twenty two.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 6>My birthday was on Monday, and I'm at the beach.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm just I feel so relaxed. I just got registered

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 6>back into school. I started school Monday, junior in college.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 6>And I told the boy that I have the.

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Hugest crush on that I like him on Wednesday and

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 3>he likes me back. So life is just I'm teaking

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 3>right now.

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>You you sound like you're being written or something, like

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.959
<v Speaker 1>you're a fictional character in a novel.

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 6>Oh let me so good. God has been so nice

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 6>to me. And I went fishing today for the first time.

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 6>In five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I caught twelve fish.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah awesome, Okay, this is that's a lot, this is

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>so much well, uh well, Jessica, listen, I'll ask you this.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything in particular you called in to want

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk about today?

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 6>Yes, a thousand. So I've spoken to Lyle twice, the

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 6>first time I ever spoke to him.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>It's me, by the way, I'm Lyle.

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Wait Lyle, yes, wait, Lyle.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I've been wanting to update you all

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 6>my life so you might remember me.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Then.

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 6>The first time we ever spoke, you did a five

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 6>am call and I was in the hospital with my

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 6>dad who's dying. Yes, yeah, oh that was me.

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 6>I think I just cried on the phone for like

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 6>thirty minutes.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god? What hold hold on, wait, hold

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the phone real quick. Okay, you know what, Can I

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>be so honest with you right now?

0:31:58.720 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Can I be?

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Can I be so honest with you right now? I

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>just get you call? Okay. At the beginning of this call,

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I was a little bit like, why is this fucking

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>girl so cheery? This is pissing me off a little bit.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>But this lady, it was it was I had I

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>gotta be out there. It was pissing me off how

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>happy you sounded. But now, uh, you soundedude and happy.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>But I I remember our call. Yeah, this was like

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>three years ago.

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 6>Right, yep, Okay, you know what I thought?

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.479
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of okay the beginning of this call,

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, who is this lady? Why is she

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>so happy? This is pissing me off? But I remember

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>three years ago. Yes, I remember you called me while

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you were in the hospital with your dad and you

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>were crying, and we had this very emotional phone call.

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm like, you know what I think if

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>three years ago you call in and you're miserable and

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you're crying, I think you get to be happy now.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I think this makes me more sense. I'm I'm I'm

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>so much more enthralled by your joy than I was

0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>previously agitated by it, knowing the context of.

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 6>This, Okay, this I've been wanting to update you. So

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 6>we met in person. I'll tell you about it because

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 6>I know you meet thousands of people. I brought my

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 6>aunt to one of your shows in Nashville, Tennessee, and

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 6>I wore an evy onesie and I sat right on

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 6>the front row.

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I do vaguely remember that. I do vaguely remember that

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I that we you and I you and I met,

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>because yes, I remember that phone call that we had. Yeah,

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it was it was very touching.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was going through a lot. I was really sad,

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 6>and I went through a really hard time in my life.

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 6>I love being opening up. I love opening up and

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 6>being raw on the phone, because you know, what is

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 6>this talk show for. So right after that, I got

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 6>into this like really toxic relationship. It was super abusive.

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 6>I tried to kill myself and life was just not

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 6>going great right as life does sometimes, And I ended

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 6>up getting saved, and I mean Jesus just pulled me

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 6>out and God started revealing himself to me, and he

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 6>completely turned my life around, saved me. I ended up

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 6>sending that silly, little abusive X to jail on domestic violence,

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 6>and he restored the relationship with my father. First of all,

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 6>he let him live, which is amazing. I'm so thankful.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:30.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, good, good, good good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. That was a rough time. And for the last

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 6>year now I've been trying to call in to talk

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 6>to you because my life has just changed so much

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 6>for the better and it's been amazing.

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, yeah, no, this is you know what, Okay,

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>because here's my thing is I think if you if

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you are just if I think you know, when you

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>meet people and they're happy, just like by defaults, they're

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like everything's amazing. Of course it is. It's like those

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I think those people are completely insane. And I think,

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>for a second I thought maybe you were one of

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>those people. But you're. No, You're the You're You're You're

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the kind of happy person I love who is like,

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>oh no, I've seen horrible things and I understand them

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'm and I and I'm happy despite them. I'm like,

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a great happy person.

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 6>How can you possibly appreciate the sunshine and the peaceful

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 6>ocean if you don't sit in the storm?

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm with you. I'm with you.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm so happy to hear that you're doing better.

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I'm trying to remember a little bit about

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>our call, and tell me if this is correct. But

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember that. Okay, I might be confusing this with

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>other things, so tell me if this is correct. But

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember you had a bit of a of a No,

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I not troubled necessarily but a difficult relationship with your dad.

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that accurate?

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 7>Yes, that was accurate, And all of.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Your siblings were kind of like leaving him behind and

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you were the only one who was at the hospital

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>with him and your siblings. Well, yeah, so.

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 6>I'm the youngest. My dad has like six kids that

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 6>he knows of. My dad was very busy in his youth,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 6>so none of us have the same mom.

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 3>I have been talking to.

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 6>My sister over the phone for the last three years,

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 6>and my dad doesn't know, and so he's usually really

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 6>aggressive about it. But me and my sister we.

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Talked usually at least once a month.

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 6>She's four years older than me. She was living in

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 6>San Diego for a while and then she moved to

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 6>Washington and I almost got to meet her because I've

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 6>been working looking for this nonprofit profit and I get

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 6>to travel for my job. And then the week that

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 6>I went up there for work, she ended up moving

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 6>to Jacksonville.

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Florida, which is where she was born.

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 6>But she just despises my dad, even though she hasn't

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 6>met him, but it's from all the things that her

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 6>mom told her about him. So none of my siblings

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 6>are very fond of him. My dad was very not

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 6>emotionally intelligent due to the upbringing he received, and it

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 6>was not entirely a fault of his own. As much

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 6>as you know, nature plays a part, it's also nurture,

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 6>and he did not receive the love and care he

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 6>needed growing up. So as I've gotten older, you know,

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm celebrating my twenty second birthday, I've really gotten to

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 6>teach my dad a lot how to communicate and understand

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 6>and process his emotions and feelings and be able to

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 6>talk to me. And it's really improved our relationship. I mean,

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 6>it's like we're friends now, and it's super awesome.

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. How are things going with your siblings?

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 6>So it was crazy. My brother and I have never

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:11.439
<v Speaker 6>been super close, which is kind of my mom's fault

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 6>because my mom, she's an illegal immigrant, and when my

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 6>brother was seven was when she had to make the

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 6>choice to come to America by herself or you know,

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.720
<v Speaker 6>stay with him until she came here and left him behind.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 6>She got here, she had me and my brother ended

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 6>up being raised by my aunt.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 3>And not my mom.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 6>And so when he finally got here when he was eighteen,

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 6>right till like eleven years later and he meets me.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to say he despised me, but I

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 6>could tell he was upset because he felt like my

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 6>mom favored me. But the last year we have been

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 6>kind of rekindling getting to know each other, and I

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 6>stay getting to know each other because his first language

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.919
<v Speaker 6>is Spanish and mine is English, so you know, there's

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a communication barrier. But this is

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 6>the first year ever my brother has got me a

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 6>birthday present. Yeah, it was so crazy. I love writing

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 6>poetry and I like writing short stories and I journal

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 6>very often, which I've shared with him, and so he

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 6>got me a quill and ink with like different calligraphy tips. Yeah,

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 6>it was super cool and I was like, oh my gosh,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 6>this is like really thoughtful. I can't believe he did this.

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 6>He's never gotten me anything before, so that was awesome.

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like your whole family dynamic is like on

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the upwards.

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, everything is completely changed, like what I was when

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 6>I called you at the time, Like my dad was dying,

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 6>my mom wasn't talking to me because she was going

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 6>through like a messy thing her husband cheater, and or

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 6>she moved to Mexico, wasn't talking to me like I

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 6>wasn't really talking to my siblings. My dad was upset

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 6>that I reached out to my sister because he was like,

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 6>if she doesn't like me, why are you talking to her?

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>And bled.

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 6>But God has really worked some magical wonders in my

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 6>life and it has been so beautiful to watch unfold

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 6>because I sat in that waiting for so long, like

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 6>growing up was the hardest thing that I ever did,

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.439
<v Speaker 6>and being on the other side now, like I'm still

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.280
<v Speaker 6>a kid. I'm still every age that I was before

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 6>until this moment.

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>What you just turned twenty two? You still have so

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>much life ahead of you still, Yeah, it just hits different.

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Walking with the Lord hits different.

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Well excellent, I'm I'm I'm so happy to hear that.

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And yeah I do, Okay, I do remember the the

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<v Speaker 1>ev Onesie?

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 6>You do you remember that random girl the ev Onesie?

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Well that that was a Zanies, right, yeah, that was

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 2>a Zainies.

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wait did you tell do you old? Actually I

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>was trying to did you Did you mention that I

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>met you on this phone call that we're having right now?

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you mention that we met in Nashville?

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we met in Nashville.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right. I was trying to see if I

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>pulled that from my own memory, because again and I

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>just that and this is the thing, and I don't

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember your name. I don't remember the names

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of people who I talked to, but I remember our

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>conversation Vivia there. I literally can put myself back in

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the room that I was in when we had that

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>phone call, because that was uh yeah, it was. It

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 1>was an emotional one and you were nineteen at.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 3>The time, eighteen or nineteen.

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it was definitely pre COVID, and I think

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 6>I was like, one was trauma dumping on you.

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Well shit, what is your name?

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 6>My name is Jessica, Jessica.

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Well shit, yeah, Jessica.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 3>I no.

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I actually even remember meeting you in the ev Onesie.

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>It was like outside at Zany's and I remember you

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>told me that that was you from that phone call,

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and I remember being like, oh shit, I remember that.

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>That was cool.

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 6>I had a lot of mixed feelings. I remember when

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 6>you released the podcast. I was the headliner, and it

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 6>was like calling from the hospital and I was like,

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 6>oh man, everyone's gonna hear me crying and trauma dumping.

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Did you read the comments on YouTube?

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were nice. I don't think people. Actually

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not so sure they were nice. People are dicks

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>on the internet for absolutely no reason. And also people

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>don't even know. I just think people don't understand the

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>point of the show because they'll comment being like this

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>person sounds like a bitch, and I'm like, this is

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>not the point of why we're doing this is to

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>give your opinion of whether or not it's no one

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>said that about you. I'm just saying people say that

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>in general about in general anyway, whatever, who cares? Who cares?

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 6>I always listen to you on Spotify.

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>So well, uh well how about this? Well, first of all,

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>glad you gave the update. This is a nice update.

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>What's new for you? What's next for you? I mean,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you're twenty two. Are you going to go to I

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 1>did you just graduate school? Are you gonna what's what's

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the deal? What's next for Jessica?

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:30.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 6>So I'm a junior in college now, super exciting. I

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:36.879
<v Speaker 6>just changed my major for the fifth time.

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well what too?

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 3>So now it's.

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 6>Business entrepreneurship with a minor and computer science.

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna think you should do like a new

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna are you gonna make like a AI

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>tech company or something?

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 6>Definitely not. I don't trust AI. I have mixed feelings

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 6>about it, so that's why I want to learn about it.

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Like one of the classes that I actually have with

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 6>my best friend set out to call I love her

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 6>so much. We're doing Introduction AI together, so I'm really excited.

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, no, I think it would be important to

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 6>learn basic computer and technology. Is that day and h

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 6>that we're living in.

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>The Only reason I say this is because I feel

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>like that's the like business entrepreneurship with computer science. It

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>feels like all those people are just doing AI shit, not.

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 6>That I know, right, Like, let me build an automated

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 6>system so I don't actually have to put.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>In any work, all right, So you what are you?

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>What are you hoping to do with with that?

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 6>I would really just sounds silly. I don't care as

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 6>much about starting my own business. I did about a

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 6>year and a half ago. I was doing senior and

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 6>veteran helow income living. Had a little staff and we

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 6>provided housing and care for disabled veterans but disabled seniors,

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 6>and it was super educational. But I've been working at

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 6>this nonprofit for about two and a half years now.

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 6>It's called Veterans Village, and we helped provide on a

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 6>larger scale, low into housing for seniors and veterans. And

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 6>I would love to do some kind of whether it's

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 6>mission work or nonprofit, but providing help and support and

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 6>outreach for young girls who come from broken homes, the

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 6>young girls who are going through abuse, because that's.

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>What I relate to.

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 6>And when I reflect now back to that younger person,

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, the need that's still inside of me. She

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 6>just needed some kind of love and support, somebody to

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 6>remind her like life will not always be this way

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 6>and there's a bigger world.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Like it's okay.

0:45:56.080 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 6>And so I would love to develop I'm saying that

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 6>would support young girls.

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Cool.

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I like it.

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I like the I like the upwards trajectory. Jessica. I'm

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>very happy for you, and I hope you continue, uh

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>continue being cheery.

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 6>It's been amazing. Like I don't know, I never expected

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 6>life to.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Be good, you know, no doubt.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I again, yeah I I I mean it was

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a it was a while ago, but yeah, I remember

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you were things were difficult three years ago. So you

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>know the fact that the families get together, the families

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>getting back together. You got a nice direction of purpose

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in your life. You're uh, the boy you have a

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 1>crush on likes you back. That's nice. Yeah, I think, Jessica,

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Jessica stock is up.

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 6>I think. So I'm going to fill the tea with

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 6>you while Okay, So, so this boy that I like,

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 6>he has a girlfriend. I think he likes me back.

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.720
<v Speaker 6>I can't tell. So I literally just confessed my feelings

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 6>for him on Wednesday, like this this past Wednesday, and

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.919
<v Speaker 6>he got my number. I thought that was a little

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 6>strange because he has a girlfriend. But we've been talking

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 6>and I've known him for about three years now, so

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:33.800
<v Speaker 6>i've met him like prior to the last two girlfriends

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 6>that he's had. But I finally got the courage to

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 6>be like, hey, I think you're great, and he was like, oh,

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 6>I think great too. So I've been excited about that

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 6>the last couple of days. But I don't know, I've

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 6>been trying to pray about it.

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 3>It's been a lot.

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope God livers whatever the right thing in

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that situation is too, man, Jessica, is there anything else

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer before.

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:16.839
<v Speaker 6>We you go, people of a computer. It always gets better,

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 6>even if it sucks. Right now, there's always a light

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 6>and it's not just at the end of the tunnel.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 6>It is right there with you. I'm so glad I

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 6>could talk to you again, Lyle.

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Jessica. You have a good one.

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:30.879
<v Speaker 6>You're true.

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>That was cool. Yeah, I totally remember that phone call.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, the episode was I'm calling from the hospital,

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and she was calling from the hospital, yeah, with her

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>dad who was dying, and it's good to hear that

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>he's okay. It's good to hear that. No again. When

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>she first picked up the phone call, I was like,

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>who the fuck is this lady? You know, being so cheery.

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It pissed me off, It really did. I'm and I

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>don't feel good and people are gonna be like, oh,

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Lyle, I thought that was wholesome. Why is

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that pissing you off? And I don't control that it

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>pisses me off?

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>But it did.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not gonna lie and say it didn't, but

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it did. But then once I found out who she

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>was and remembered the backstory, I was like, Oh, okay,

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 1>this is actually awesome that this person is feeling cheery.

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I was happy, And that's a microcosm because here's the thing.

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Even Let's say that that person got on the phone

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and was like, you know, talking like you know, a

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>fucking Alice in Wonderland or whatever, and I didn't and

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who she was, and I was just

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>pissed off naturally at how cheery she was. Maybe if

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I had, you know, I that was a preconceived judgment

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>that I made. That probably happens to me in real life.

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll meet someone and I'm like, who the fuck is

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>this person talking like this? And then uh, but I

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe they maybe they went through some fucked

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 1>up shit and now they're cheery and now that's exciting

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>for them, and I'm being an asshole, you know, So

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I gotta I gotta. You gotta check yourself sometimes when

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:09.319
<v Speaker 1>when you're getting pissed off at things, I guess, hello, Hey,

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:09.799
<v Speaker 1>what's up?

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Hey, how you doing today?

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good? What's your name?

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 4>This is Crystal. I just talk to you about I

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 4>don't know, four to eight weeks ago, maybe oh.

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember, what's up? Crystal, you have a what's

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>going on?

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, I was just well, a couple of things going on.

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 4>But I was calling first of all to say thank

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 4>you because I needed to hear what you told me.

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 4>And yeah yeah, and then I, uh, you know, I

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 4>went to work and basically things worked out great and

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 4>I'd learned to ignore them everybody, and you know that's

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 4>a whole other another show.

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But well here, I'll I'll give some I'll give a

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit of context. I remember you called in, uh

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe a month ago, a few weeks ago, to talk

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 1>about how you were getting like bullied at work and

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like you had coworkers who were being like assholes to you.

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And I don't remember what I said, but I remember

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that that was your situation, and you're telling me that

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>things are going better.

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Yep, yeah, I don't remember what you said exactly. You

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 4>kind of went too like a big kind of woe,

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 4>went a little bit of rant, which is.

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 2>What I need.

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I mean sometimes, I mean, honestly,

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:19.839
<v Speaker 4>you just you were telling me things I already knew.

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 4>I was like in a real bad state of mind

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 4>when I called you, and I don't even know how

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I really managed to even call you and that you

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 4>actually answered. But you know, things happened very reason, I

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 4>feel like and it was it was awesome. So yeah,

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 4>I went back to work and I just you know,

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 4>I ignore them, and uh just karma took over. And

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 4>the main person that was you know, giving me help,

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 4>giving me feel whatever type of way, was the supervisor.

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 4>And I guess you know, it was not to me thing.

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.399
<v Speaker 4>She was just an asshole and they ended up getting

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 4>rid of her, so which was awesome. But yeah, you know,

0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 4>I just feel like I need to just say thank you.

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I'm I'm just so happy to hear that

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you yeah, because you weren't doing so great. Are you

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>doing better now? Are you feeling better at that your work?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm feeling better in general.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on my way up, you know, wonderful, it said.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, it's only been you know, a month, and

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 4>some days are better than others. But you know, I

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 4>just go there and I just basically stay to myself

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 4>and listen to my music. Listen you and you know

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 4>you're you were you sittn't along the lines of like

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, if somebody's treats you cruel or

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 4>treat you not well, or makes you upset, or any

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 4>kind of negative things towards you. You know, it's not

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 4>really a not always a you problem, it's you know, objected.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, so you know. I mean it's so simple.

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 4>It seems so simple. But you know, when you feel

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.399
<v Speaker 4>up the daily and you you start and you start

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 4>to believe people with some names, you know, and you

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 4>needed somebody just to kind of give you a little

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 4>slap in the faith and be like, hey, you know,

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's work, you know, you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I won't take up all a lot of your time.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to really say thank you because, like

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 4>I said, you know, I didn't realize how how cool

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 4>you were until after I talk to you. I was

0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:02.359
<v Speaker 4>looking and you talked to some really cool people.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're doing awesome well ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Christal, You're cool too, man. I I know,

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you called it. I'm very Uh this makes

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 1>me happy. This makes me feel like I'm I'm this

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is good. I'm happy that this that was a helpful

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>phone call for you. This makes me feel like I'm

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 1>not just uh uh wasting not no, not wasting my time.

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:29.480
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I don't know ranting, ranting aimlessly into a

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>stick alone in my room. I'm very I'm happy to

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 1>hear that that phone call had a positive effect on you.

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I sincerely am christ and you know, also very happy

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in general. Also just very happy in general to hear

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing better. So thank thank you very much

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 1>for calling back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, no problem. So I wanted before you get

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 4>off here, I want to say I like your your

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 4>choice of outfit today. You're you know, you get from

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 4>the head up type of situations.

0:53:55.719 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, for the you know, well here's you know,

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 1>what I realized is most of most of the people

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 1>who who consume this show, they consume it on audio,

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>so they can't even really even see that I'm in

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>this suit. But you know, so I'm I'm half gecko.

0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:22.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're like half gecko half We're gonna say this

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 4>not anyway, half half gecko.

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Half ape. And you know what, I'm gonna interpret that positively.

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, yeah, definitely. I would never say any means.

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<v Speaker 1>Think you Crystal. Thanks for calling man. Is there anything

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>else you want to say to the people of the computer.

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<v Speaker 4>Before we go, No, just I mean, be nice to

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:43.800
<v Speaker 4>your fellow people. You know, you never know what somebody's

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 4>going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. Yeah, thank you for so good luck?

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you as well?

0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 2>How today? Bye bye?

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:50.240
<v Speaker 4>Goodbye?

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Did I just say yo? I think I just said yo.

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>That's okay. A lot of good a lot of good

0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>callbacks today, lot of good uh lot a good lot

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:09.319
<v Speaker 1>of good return callers today. Maddie, Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up?

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Oh wow? This is really it? Wow? Your name

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. My name is Maddie.

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Maddie. What's going on? Maddie?

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 6>Uh oh wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I didn't actually think i'd get through. Uh I am,

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm all right. I've actually I've got a bit of

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 2>uh well, I guess everyone does this, but I've got

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:34.239
<v Speaker 2>a bit of dumping to do. If you're if I

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 2>can borrow your ears for a few minutes.

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, let's do this. Instead of a dump, let's

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 1>do like, uh, you know, a conversation like like if

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bin, right, you know, for a one piece

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of trash in there, and then you know, we can

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>go back and forth. How does that sound?

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.879
<v Speaker 2>That makes a lot more sense and sounds pretty good.

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, hit me.

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, So I, or rather me and my partner,

0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 2>we just came back for just so I don't dos

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:10.959
<v Speaker 2>myself or anything. We came back to our major city

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 2>after our little vacation in Montreal. I'm Canadian for that

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 2>for reference. And I had a lot of fun in Montreal.

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed, like, I enjoyed all of it, like it

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was It's beautiful city. There's amazing people there and great food.

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:39.840
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm back, uh, and I I feel I

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm missing like that, and and and I

0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 2>know it's I know that my head's kind of like, well, fuck,

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 2>let me let me just outline it. It's like I'm

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 2>bummed that my vacation's over. I go back to my

0:56:57.000 --> 0:57:02.640
<v Speaker 2>corporate esque job starting Monday, and I've been struggling with

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 2>a bit of an identity crisis is the wrong word,

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:12.280
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, I don't want to be a fucking

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:13.919
<v Speaker 2>desk worker for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you still there?

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's yeah, Yeah, it's still here.

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, what's your name again, Maddie, Maddie? How old

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>are you?

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Maddie? I am twenty six.

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 1>What would you want to do if you weren't a

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:37.640
<v Speaker 1>desk worker?

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I'd want to be, well, an artist or rather like

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>a music artists specifically. I grew up on like techno

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 2>and electro house and house in general, and that's that's

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 2>what I want to be.

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Life is a very complicated push and pull between the

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 1>things you have to do to ensure that you don't

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 1>die and the things you want to do to ensure

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that when you look back on your life you're proud

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of it. And there's a lot of things that go

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:28.320
<v Speaker 1>into those two things. I think one of them is

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 1>ensuring that you're what is it your your you're nut

0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 1>is as low as you can possibly get it to be.

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And then there's if you do have a corporate desk job,

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>how much of it are you saving versus spending? And uh,

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's it. I mean a lot of

0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 1>this stuff is is is just financial planning.

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So you live in a major city, right, Yeah? What Toronto?

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Is no one's no one's gonna find you based

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 1>on the fact that you are a man who lives

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>in Toronto. Yes, everything's fine, Everything's gonna be fine. Why

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 1>why do you live in Toronto?

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 2>You do you want to hear my whole story? Then

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 2>are we okay with that?

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Sure? Wait, go ahead. Yeah.

0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 2>So I emigrated to Canada from India at a young age,

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:47.040
<v Speaker 2>and basically we were actually planning on settling in Montreal.

0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do that because there was just issues because

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like a teenager at the time, and my

0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 2>schooling would have been kind of messed up because I

0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 2>would have had to not go to school for like

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 2>a year and a half while I learned French. So

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.560
<v Speaker 2>my parents were like, all right, well, we want you

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 2>to like be on track with people your age, So

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<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna go to Toronto and stead. It's a

1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.240
<v Speaker 2>bit more of like a multicultural hub, and you know,

1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:18.480
<v Speaker 2>there's people from like our family that's there versus no

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 2>one in Montreal, right, and it's yeah, it's been where

1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I've grown up for at least for the second half

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<v Speaker 2>of my youth. It's where I met my partner. We

1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:37.600
<v Speaker 2>both live in the city and have two amazing little cats,

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and currently at least for the next when I'm at two, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for the next three years. I also do need to

1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:49.120
<v Speaker 2>stay within well, I need to be able to go

1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:52.960
<v Speaker 2>to or be in sort of like traveling distance, or

1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I need to be able to go to a hospital

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm still in remission from from my cancer that

1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I had a couple of years back, and I'm still

1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:06.440
<v Speaker 2>in full re mission. I'm set to make a full recovery.

1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:10.320
<v Speaker 2>My doctor has told me that you are more likely

1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 2>to die from from obesity related health issues than you

1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 2>are from cancer, which is a good sign. But I

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.680
<v Speaker 2>still do need to hit my five year mark before

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<v Speaker 2>I'm considered quote unquote cured.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, I gotta what's your name again, man, Maddie, Maddie. Listen, Matti,

1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.600
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. We can talk. Listen, Maddie, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Life's I'm not gonna say life sucks, but it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of I don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>answers for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I know it's okay, I get it. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just this fucking random cam from Canada with all my shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well shit, I mean, so you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a desk worker? Are you saving money?

1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I am?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I so right now, at least, like the plan is,

1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I have my emergency fund covered. I am

1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:26.160
<v Speaker 2>almost set to buy myself like my MacBook, so I can,

1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:31.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, take more of my productions outside of my apartment,

1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:34.480
<v Speaker 2>just because like I find that when I when I

1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:39.600
<v Speaker 2>work like anywhere else but from my home, it's a

1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:43.320
<v Speaker 2>bit easier for me to like be creative. There's that,

1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:47.120
<v Speaker 2>And then I also kind of like, through the past year,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been sort of setting this expectation of myself of

1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:55.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to put out some sort of project, whether

1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:59.840
<v Speaker 2>it's an EP or even a single, And the main

1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:02.480
<v Speaker 2>with that is like I will book a show, I

1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:05.600
<v Speaker 2>will I will do all of these things so that

1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:08.160
<v Speaker 2>at least, you know, in a year's time, in a

1:03:08.200 --> 1:03:11.160
<v Speaker 2>couple of years time, if I'm still at my desk job,

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<v Speaker 2>if I if this does not take me anywhere, I

1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:18.440
<v Speaker 2>can at least still kind of look back at the

1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:20.720
<v Speaker 2>work I put in and the effort that I put

1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:23.919
<v Speaker 2>in and say, you know what, I might not enjoy

1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:27.400
<v Speaker 2>every aspect of my job, but at least I did

1:03:28.040 --> 1:03:30.480
<v Speaker 2>this cool thing that I thought was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that's and I think that's great.

1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's great. The thing I would say is like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I mean making money off of like music is

1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:50.320
<v Speaker 1>a tough thing to do, but I would say, if

1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I were you, I would like figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>get your burn rate down to as little as you

1:03:55.520 --> 1:03:59.000
<v Speaker 1>possibly can, save as much money as humanly possible from

1:03:59.520 --> 1:04:02.760
<v Speaker 1>your desk job, figure out how to use those savings

1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:07.240
<v Speaker 1>to invest in something that you know makes you money

1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:11.840
<v Speaker 1>independent of your job. I mean these are kind of

1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:14.640
<v Speaker 1>figure outable things financially, but also on the way. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as long as you're able to make the

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<v Speaker 1>art and you're not letting your job like seep into

1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:23.280
<v Speaker 1>every aspect of your existence, like your identity. You know,

1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you said you had an identity crisis. Yeah, like you

1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:29.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want to let your job be your identity. It's

1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:32.440
<v Speaker 1>okay to and it's okay. It's okay to have something

1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that makes you money and something that you really identify

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<v Speaker 1>with and have those be two separate things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're that makes sense. I mean, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this past year has been a realization of there

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<v Speaker 2>are there are things outside of work, And the problem

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<v Speaker 2>with the company that I work at is that there's

1:04:57.240 --> 1:05:00.800
<v Speaker 2>very much a there's very much like a s of no,

1:05:01.040 --> 1:05:03.440
<v Speaker 2>we expect you to like kind of enjoy being with

1:05:03.520 --> 1:05:06.360
<v Speaker 2>all your coworkers all the time, So go and have

1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:08.840
<v Speaker 2>lunch and dinner with them, like, you know, let's let's

1:05:08.880 --> 1:05:11.840
<v Speaker 2>do a quarterly outing with everyone, and oh, let's all

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<v Speaker 2>go for like.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to attend those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the most part well it's like I don't have to,

1:05:23.960 --> 1:05:26.440
<v Speaker 2>but you can definitely tell that there would be some

1:05:26.640 --> 1:05:30.720
<v Speaker 2>like serious judgment or you know, there's like there's very

1:05:30.800 --> 1:05:33.840
<v Speaker 2>much a you're not really a team player kind of

1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I kind of approach to people that don't like partake

1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:42.160
<v Speaker 2>in all of these outside of work events. And everyone

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<v Speaker 2>over there is like in their late late twenties to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, mid thirties. I think it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest guys in our department. It must be like touching

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<v Speaker 2>fifties soon. So it's not like they're old, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>very much a like I I'm someone who's like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't mind the work that I do. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's uh I you know, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better than working a retail job. Like I I

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<v Speaker 2>fucking hate retail for that matter. Who are all to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone in your chat who's a retail or a service worker,

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely love and adore you because you are doing

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<v Speaker 2>some hard ship that I could not. And so but

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<v Speaker 2>getting back to the point, like I might be good

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<v Speaker 2>at the work. I might think it's not the worst

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<v Speaker 2>thing ever, but it's still my job. You know, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure to be everyone's best bud, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be, you don't have. You don't have,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be. And if they judge, then

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<v Speaker 1>fuck them. You know you're there to make, You're there

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<v Speaker 1>to make. It's okay, it's okay to be. Like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I submit to the fact that in life I got

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<v Speaker 1>to do things I don't want to do to make

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<v Speaker 1>money so that I can, you know, afford to live.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's okay to put in the bare amount of

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<v Speaker 1>effort into those things because energy, because your energy is finite.

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<v Speaker 1>You know your time, Your time is finite. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>your energy. And so just conserve as much of your

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<v Speaker 1>fucking energy as you possibly can for the things you

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<v Speaker 1>actually want to put it into. And if they judge you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. They could judge you, but they can't fucking

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<v Speaker 1>fire you for not going to this thing that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting paid to go to. At least I think

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<v Speaker 1>they can't. I don't know what Canadian labor laws are like,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what, who you know? Fuck it, don't don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't expend any energy that you don't have on on

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<v Speaker 1>this job, you know, like expend them, expend the minimum

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<v Speaker 1>amount of it. Figure out the minimum amount of work,

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<v Speaker 1>energy and time that you need to put in to

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<v Speaker 1>make the amount of money that you need to live.

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<v Speaker 1>And figure out the minimum amount of money that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to live, and then from there, spend your finite

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time and energy on the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>actually want to do. When you don't have to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>your identity up in it in it, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to wrap your identity up and in your job.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just do the things that you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my rant for your for your situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I don't think you should let this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>crumble you into an identity crisis, right, thanks? Well for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I don't. This doesn't you know. I'll just repeat

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<v Speaker 1>everything I just said, but uh again on on on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>on paper again, like like, work it out on paper, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dead serious. Go go into your journal working out

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<v Speaker 1>on paper.

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<v Speaker 7>The minimum amounts of money you need to live, and

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<v Speaker 7>then the minimum amounts of energy and time that you

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<v Speaker 7>need to put in and abide by that, and then

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<v Speaker 7>everything else can go fuck itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, neat, thanks man for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry it's funny because like, I remember your name, Maddie.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Maddie.

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<v Speaker 1>Maddie like Maddi heally the guy from the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an Arabic name, like uh, like Macbeth. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I usually told people call me Maddie because again, I

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<v Speaker 2>moved here from like a country where people can pronounce

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<v Speaker 2>it properly. Actually, to be fair, they kind of didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is that for me, it's more of

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<v Speaker 2>like I'd rather have you call me what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be called, rather than here's someone's rendition of my name.

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<v Speaker 2>Like imagine if I called you lightly.

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<v Speaker 1>People do. That's why people call me that. When if I, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at a place and I order a thing, they

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<v Speaker 1>called me lightly. I hate that. By the way, am

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<v Speaker 1>I going to Okay, I'm gonna go on a ramp, Maddie,

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking hate you know, fucking star Bucks was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll make people you know, like us better if we

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<v Speaker 1>call their names out when we give them coffee. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Starbucks invented that shit, right, I hate that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate every time I go to a food place

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<v Speaker 1>they need my name. I don't want to give you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>any personal information I miss I miss when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a number I want to be. I come to McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>to be dehumanized, Okay, to eat fucking slop like a

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<v Speaker 1>pig I when I am in McDonald When I'm at McDonald's,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not lyle. I am number one oh five.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly how I want it to be. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to get chummy with the the organizations that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting my slot from. Okay, I want to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to clock in. I want to be in order

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five. And I don't want anyone to have

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<v Speaker 1>to I don't want anyone to have to learn my name.

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<v Speaker 1>I want it to be a very very very transactional,

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<v Speaker 1>impersonal process when I go to these places. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at Taco Bell the other day, I had to put

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<v Speaker 1>in my name. I don't want to do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>want I want them to call me Order five seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to be like Order for Lil.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want, you know, it could be a purely transactional,

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting alley Way endeavor picking up.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to sorry, Lyle, I need I need to

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<v Speaker 2>interject here. So then you said you want this to

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<v Speaker 2>be purely transactional. So you're okay being called a number?

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<v Speaker 2>So why not why not have your order called out

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<v Speaker 2>by what it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>For example, I always get a flat white when it

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<v Speaker 2>goes and get coffee, you know, why not like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a flat white and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know the whole it's any

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<v Speaker 1>Any rant that I go on, uh is not meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be questioned, you know, Like I mean that's how

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<v Speaker 1>rants are, right, Like if someone's ranting and then like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're ranting and then someone says, oh but what

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<v Speaker 1>about this? Then you go, well, h okay, you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole point of a rant is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>an uninterrupted thing where you know, nobody questions you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry, this is really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's fair. My apologies, man, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I don't know what I'm doing anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Mattie, Maddie is nice to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you do you have any music out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, but tell you what. In let let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>do this in about six months time from now. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try to call back and let you know if I

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<v Speaker 2>have any any music out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, that sounds good. Well, good luck, Mattie. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you. I hope you get your work done. Here's,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, just one more thing, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm actually and by the way, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually how I'm feeling about a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>in my life lately, as I'm kind of like shifting

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<v Speaker 1>around the kind of work that I do. The work

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<v Speaker 1>doing the work that you're happy with is all that matters,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So as long as you're making the music

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make and you're doing the work that

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<v Speaker 1>you're happy with, that's that's what matters the most. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that that's what you end up doing. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for calling, Maddie. I'll see you around the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, cheers, take care man Later, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would he say, he said, why don't they have why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you have them call it out by the well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. You can't really have them call it out

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<v Speaker 1>by anything. They have their own processes. But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of having a of ranting on a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>as no one questions you. That's how that's how people

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<v Speaker 1>get away with saying, uh, you know, stupid things that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't true on podcasts all the time. Is they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody going like, well what about this? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point is, uh, is it this disease? A

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<v Speaker 1>stupid rant? Sorry, I'm sorry. Okay goes on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>calls every.

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<v Speaker 4>Night every big goestro on his eye.

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<v Speaker 2>He's teaching you

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<v Speaker 1>How to live your life, but he's not really an expert.