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Speaker 1: Action Network. NBA playoffs are about to begin. I love

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Speaker 1: time to be talking to NBA because my team, the Sixers,

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Speaker 1: are one of the best teams in the East. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of legacy defining moments on the line

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Speaker 1: for the Sixers. What's so interesting about the Sixers and

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Speaker 1: so interesting about the Sixers is everyone celebrated the idea

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Speaker 1: multiple years of tanking to get Joe l embiid, to

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Speaker 1: that for? And oka for right? All these years of

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Speaker 1: the image of analytics right, all of a sudden he

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Speaker 1: gets fired. The team starts to develop around all the

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Speaker 1: kind of a true success story. And then what's interesting

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Speaker 1: even after that is they bring in Darryl Maury, who's

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Speaker 1: of this team is really about the process. But what

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Speaker 1: is going to define whether or not anything was successful

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Speaker 1: is going to be the connection between two superstars, which

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Speaker 1: is what it always is in the NBA. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like you're on either side. You really wanted to fail,

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Speaker 1: I want as many rounds and like clips and the

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Speaker 1: Durant left, I think the truth was unveiled. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Tyreek Hill with Toua. You know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: watch that and go wow. I saw Tyreek with Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: I see Tyreek with ta Oh. All those people on

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Speaker 1: the fence with Twa are gonna go oh yeah this

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Speaker 1: It doesn't They're not. They can't go deep as much.

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Speaker 1: So I just think once Kadi left, the truth came out,

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Speaker 1: and that the truth is he is a ball usage,

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Speaker 1: ball centric guard who's not efficient um is dared to shoot.

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Speaker 1: Most of his assists are simply off ball usage, not

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Speaker 1: the brilliance of passing or some sort of court vision. Um.

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Speaker 1: He just has the ball in his hands all the time. Now, Hardened,

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Speaker 1: interestingly has pivoted and is actually a much better passer

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Speaker 1: than I think we gave him credit for initially. I

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Speaker 1: think when he went Brooklyn, I was like, he's kind

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Speaker 1: of effective at this, He got people involved, didn't get

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit for it. But I do think

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Speaker 1: I do think Harden he has kind of pivoted to

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Speaker 1: a more um a fundamentally better distributor than he was

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Speaker 1: entering the league. At Arizona State and early in the

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Speaker 1: league he was just a score. But I think he

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Speaker 1: has the ability. I think he does have some self awareness.

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Speaker 1: He knows he's gonna high maintenance. Russell just doesn't get

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Speaker 1: that he is. But but Harden to me has evolved.

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Speaker 1: I think he has. I think he's become a better

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Speaker 1: team player that he gets credit for. If you're just

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Speaker 1: going to throw away this past season, like do you

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Speaker 1: look at Lebron is the greatest performer in modern playoffs?

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Speaker 1: In modern NBA history, like two for us, he is

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Speaker 1: arguably the greatest. I know people are going all the

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Speaker 1: time about it, but just going taking it away this

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Speaker 1: past season, just looking at the playoffs, do you think

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Speaker 1: he is the greatest modern performer? You know, it's always

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Speaker 1: been hard because Michael and Kobe had similar games sort

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Speaker 1: of magic and on. It's like trying to compare coconut

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Speaker 1: cream pie and brownies. Like they're both good, they're not

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Speaker 1: really the same thing. I mean, Michael was a score

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Speaker 1: to a fault. I mean with ghost teammates. Lebron's already magic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're seeing it this year. Lebron is like,

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Speaker 1: I wanna win the scoring title in my nineteenth year.

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Speaker 1: The only player that's ever been as good as long

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Speaker 1: as Lebron is Kareem and in his twentieth year, he

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Speaker 1: average fourteen a game and looked like an old wheelbarrel

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Speaker 1: down the floor. Lebron decided this year team stinks, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna score eighties. Hurt. I mean, he's had fifty point games,

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Speaker 1: so Lebron not that he's been hide again. The most

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Speaker 1: valuable Lebron stat in his career, this is the one

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Speaker 1: that always jumps out to me. Lebron's junior year in

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Speaker 1: high school, he scored twenty six a game. His senior

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Speaker 1: year in high school he scored twenty seven. You and

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Speaker 1: I know he could have gone from twenty six to

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Speaker 1: fifty six. That told you everything about Lebron. It's never

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Speaker 1: been about scoring Lebron James High School twenty seven a game. Really, No,

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Speaker 1: He's always been about getting people involved. So to me,

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Speaker 1: he's he's magic. He's just a better athlete than Magic,

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Speaker 1: who was always a poor defender. I always think the

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Speaker 1: comparisons with Michael are virtually impossible. He's gonna win the

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Speaker 1: direct the longevity stuff. Michael was also because Michael had

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Speaker 1: a brother and Michael had a strong father figure. Michael

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Speaker 1: was really um was not passive aggressive. Michael was very

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Speaker 1: confrontational and very physical and very combative. You know, Lebron

486
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Speaker 1: was raised primarily by his mom. He didn't have a brother.

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Speaker 1: They're wrestling downstairs in the basement and and there there's

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Speaker 1: real value in that. Like I grew up with a sister,

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Speaker 1: not a brother. So I'm a lover not a fighter.

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Speaker 1: If you go to my high school, the kids that

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Speaker 1: were on the wrestling team and the tough guys they

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Speaker 1: all had brothers, are fought downstairs. They wrestled, they fought

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Speaker 1: over stuff. So Michael is a different personality, I mean

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Speaker 1: just genetically. He's much more physical, much tougher, much more aggressive.

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Speaker 1: You know. Lebron I think is a little bit, a

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00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: little more thoughtful, sometimes a little more get other people involved.

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Speaker 1: I think that's their personalities. And it sounds like I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to be a therapist here, but that stuff matters.

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00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: Like Lebron has really got Magic's personality. He really likes

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Speaker 1: to be collaborative with people, Like I know, guys in

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00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Lebron circle, he shares the ball, you know, businesses, his

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Speaker 1: production company, He'll he'll pass the ball and get others involved.

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Speaker 1: You know, Michael's Michael's into Michael and you know, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes to a fault. Last question because I know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna sell the volume for I don't know, a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sell it. I just sat it last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sell it. No. I like it. I

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Speaker 1: like control. I don't want to give up to some

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Speaker 1: hedge fund schmuck. I'm not selling the company. You know what,

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00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna change your mind. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I like my team. I don't want to see. Here's

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Speaker 1: what happens. You sell it and then some guy or

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00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: gal come in and they just run rough shot over

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Speaker 1: all my values and all our teamwork. What if they

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00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: don't listen. We sold out almost exactly a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and you go through a process, you find the right

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Speaker 1: partner who ultimately you know offers you fair value that

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Speaker 1: you feel good about what your exit is going to be,

519
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: but also who you feel is going to align with

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Speaker 1: the direction that you want to go. If you want

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Speaker 1: to keep buying it, and you do that, and if not,

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Speaker 1: you don't sell it. But someone's gonna put a big

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Speaker 1: number in front of you, you're gonna sell it, and

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00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the case. Yeah, but there's more that

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Speaker 1: whole big number thing. I think there's an a lure.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Chad, I've said this, chase good management,

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Speaker 1: not money, because there's a sea of money out there.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of great management. Dude. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I am, I am the demon of everything you're. Simon

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Speaker 1: and I are not for sale. You'll take a check

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Speaker 1: and across the street for a nail. Simon and I.

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Speaker 1: You can't buy us because you're true Brits. That's the British,

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00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: that's right, Simon and College double Brits. Here we grew up.

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00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Our genetics are based in a pub, shifty food in

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Speaker 1: a pub, A Northeastern guy with lobster sandwiches. Oh my god.

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00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: I am mid Western to my roots, to my core, Midwestern,

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Speaker 1: solid salt of the earth. Don't give me your British pretense.

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Speaker 1: Here's my question. Though you've got half a billion dollars

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Speaker 1: now billion, half a billion, five hundred million. Are you

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Speaker 1: investing regular mutual fund? Are you investing in some kind

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Speaker 1: of crypto? Are you investing in a team? You have

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Speaker 1: to think about it from the perspective of what do

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Speaker 1: you think will give you the most return over the

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Speaker 1: next ten years. Fifty million and an indexed fund a

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00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: combination of index funds twenty five million in cash four

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five million in team ownership, in which

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Speaker 1: I have to probably buy a team. Um like an

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Speaker 1: MLS team. There's no value in being a minority owner

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Speaker 1: in professional sports. It's the worst investment in the world

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Speaker 1: because you can't pull the money out and you have

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Speaker 1: no control. So s million, you know, fifty million and

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Speaker 1: just the index funds cash on hand. But I would

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Speaker 1: I would take probably eight percent. And now I couldn't

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Speaker 1: afford an NFL team, and I couldn't afford an NBA team,

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Speaker 1: but I probably I would probably try to be a

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Speaker 1: majority investor in an NHL or MLS team. Both goodbyes.

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Speaker 1: I like the MLS more because I like soccer more.

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Speaker 1: I would say college. I go back across the pond,

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Speaker 1: Premier League. You can easily be an owner of our

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Speaker 1: Premier League for four hundred million dollars. I'm telling you

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00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: they're like lead Unite. There's some rough places over there

562
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: you can get on the cheap. My wife asked me

563
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: this all the time. She goes, what do you make

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00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: of the stock market? You know, it's like thirty three,

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00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: And I said, well, look at look at Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 1: You know, look at some of the fundamental changes with

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Speaker 1: immigration in Europe, in the in the in the you

568
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: know the issues they're going through. I said, the wealthiest

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Speaker 1: people in the world are putting money only in two places,

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00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: our stock market and sports teams. You don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen to governments, but you know the Red

572
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Sox will be in Boston in twenty five years. The

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00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: world's wealth has come to our stock market because of

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00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: too much international volatility, and the pro teams Liverpool is

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00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: going to be there forever. You don't know what's happening

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00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: in this world today. So to me, outside of some

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Speaker 1: cash and some funds, I try to be an investor

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Speaker 1: in an MLS team. Eight years ago, two teams I

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Speaker 1: looked at. I talked to one of the owners in

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00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota and he said, if you're not a majority owner,

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00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: it's a vanity play you'll never get. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: buying it for your kids in thirty years. And I

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00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: didn't think that was I don't understand like the stuff

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00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: I invest in, like real estate, I gotta play with

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00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: the stock market I get to play with. I don't

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00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: want to invest in stuff if I can't play with it,

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00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: and that's no fun, right. I'm with you, man. I

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00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: think that was a good answer, Colin. I like it.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out what happens when you

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Speaker 1: turned down half a billion dollars for the Volume because

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00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: because because you know what you're you're just a guy

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00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: with British roots who just wants to continue to grow

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Speaker 1: your team. I get it. That's totally cool and we're listen.

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Speaker 1: We're honored to be a part of it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on the Favorites podcast from the Volume podcast

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Speaker 1: Network for Simon Hunter, for Colin Cowherd. From Matt Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman. Download us from Apple Podcasts, from Spotify,

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast, rate review, subscribe, five stars

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Speaker 1: right whatever you want, feedback as a gift until next time.

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Speaker 1: I love you,