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Speaker 2: I think it was just easier to demonize Hillary when

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Speaker 2: I'm not you know it. And the thing is, at

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Speaker 2: the age we are now and then the circles we

431
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: are in now, it's not going to be possible for

432
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Speaker 2: us not to see it. Right. We might not watch,

433
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: you know, you might not watch the debate. I probably

434
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: will because I love those fucking debates. And maybe this

435
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: time people, you know, we'll see. Well anyway, I love

436
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: the debates or whatever, But the thing is, you know,

437
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: I just don't want to go to back and forth

438
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: because I think that's what killed it for a lot

439
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: of folks. And I'm sure we'll get to it later

440
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: in the show. But and I hate to use this word,

441
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: but it's true. There is a level of like peer

442
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: pressure and slash group think among whatever circle you're in.

443
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: And sometimes I like to make my choices by stepping

444
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: away from the fray. And by fray, I mean the

445
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: involvement in the like back and forth. I'm not saying

446
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: this like I'm above you, people, know, I just strictly mean,

447
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: like I know, as a human being, I can get

448
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: influenced by the back and forth, and by back and

449
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: forth a lot of times. I mean, like the people

450
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: that are constantly chiding you, harassing you, disagreeing with you.

451
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: They make you build a case against something as if

452
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: you're part of it. And in a way, it's like,

453
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't really need to. That's not what I'm considering

454
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: when I'm walking into booth and voting is well, this

455
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: person told me this, and now I think that's kind

456
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: of what twenty sixteen became, you know, And that's sad.

457
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: Really right, And so like I said, I will be aware.

458
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 3: I will know because like I said, the circus we follow,

459
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: you can't not know, you know. So I'm not gonna

460
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: be ignorant, you know, but I will let other people

461
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: do the knife kid of no line, like I'm not

462
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: participating in any of that fucking foolishness is a waste

463
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: of fucking time when it's not going to make a difference,

464
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 3: like you're saying, when.

465
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Speaker 2: You you didn't do that last time, I don't think no,

466
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Speaker 2: And like I said, it was just too much just

467
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: looking and falling that with people and blocking and muting people.

468
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Speaker 3: To me, it was just a pure fucking chaos across

469
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Speaker 3: social media.

470
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, no, I you.

471
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Speaker 3: Know, I will stay away, And like you say, if

472
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: you are take the time to step back, look and

473
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 3: view and come up to you with your own conclusion,

474
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 3: you will make the best decision for you. And like

475
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Speaker 3: you said, you won't be peer pressured and pushed and

476
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: you won't feel like you're fucking fighting all day about

477
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: a candidate when you can actually look at all the

478
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Speaker 3: candidates and look at them fairly when you don't feel

479
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: like every day is a fucking fight to the quote

480
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Speaker 3: unquote defending my person when you're not trying to defend anybody,

481
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Speaker 3: you're trying to look at everybody and everybody else is

482
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Speaker 3: like pick somebody, and you're like, well, I just won't

483
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: look at everybody and everybody. No, you got to pick

484
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Speaker 3: somebody today and you got to defend them to the.

485
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Speaker 1: Death, and you're like, what would you hold?

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I think the part about defending

487
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: them to the death is the part that more than

488
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: to pick somebody, think because I think everybody. It's kind

489
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Speaker 2: of like, I'm not I'm not advocating to be one

490
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: of those like undecided voter ass niggas that like, I'm

491
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: just trying to see what the difference is between these

492
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Speaker 2: candidates and it's like, no, November fourth, like, nah, I

493
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 2: will have picked somebody. I'm sure. My thing is this

494
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: with this field is I honestly could vote for several

495
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: of them, correct, And at the end of the day,

496
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't really care what people's personal vendebtas are against

497
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: these folks because a lot of the stuff that people

498
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: are talking about, I don't know how to tell them.

499
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: But these things are not huge issues to me, and

500
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: they are to you. And that's why I don't want

501
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: to fight about it. It's right, you know, Well I

502
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: know Corey Booker, I'm from New Jersey. Well I don't

503
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: give a fuck. I don't I'm not from New Jersey.

504
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: And I think Corey Booker would be a better president

505
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: than Donald Trump. I don't care that he has a

506
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: girlfriend in rose Ario Dawson. Now that don't fuck. Somebody

507
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: was like, how can he run with Rozzario Dawson. She

508
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: was a Bernie supporter. Hillary Clinton ran with that albatross

509
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton around her fucking neck the whole time, and

510
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: she managed to do it. And if you can do

511
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: it with that fucking serial alleged assault and shit around

512
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: you on your side, Like, then who the fuck came

513
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: like us? If I ain't about to stop nobody from

514
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: being able to run like we off of that, Apparently

515
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: that rule has been changed. So and that's just a girlfriend,

516
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: not even a marriage, you know. So anyway, I'm absolutely

517
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: you know Kamala Harris, she was a prosecutor and she

518
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: was anti Craigs listen Out and back Page and all

519
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: that shit. Okay, I still think she'd be a bead

520
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: president than Trump, So I don't know, y'all can build

521
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: your cases. I'm not participating in it. I see the threads

522
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: and all that shit. That's absolutely fine. I think she's

523
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: a better will be a better president than Donald Trump

524
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: or any Republican they put for it. So you know,

525
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: have fun building your cases and writing your think pieces,

526
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: you know.

527
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Speaker 1: And I think for me this dance made soften.

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Speaker 3: You know. I'm not trying to say I'm gonna be

529
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: here forever, but as of right now, because I know

530
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: we're getting ready to go into the ramped up season

531
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: and debates and all that shit.

532
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: Fucking two years goddamn, you know.

533
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: And I think the last time, the two years took

534
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: for fucking it felt like.

535
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: Forty five because we knew who the candidates were from

536
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: day one. We knew it was Hillary from day one.

537
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 2: So I think it was an erosion of goodwill on

538
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: the part of Russia, on the part of the like

539
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: uber left, and on the part of Republicans.

540
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I do think that it's probably

541
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: gonna be different. I think it's I hope that it's

542
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: more nuances about nuance about the character, about the not

543
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 3: the characters, but about the people, and we actually get

544
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: to see these are my ideas.

545
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: This is how I feel, you know, like we actually.

546
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: Get to know them, you know that, Like that's what

547
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm used to and not that I.

548
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Can roll with.

549
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: Like Okay, here, okay, this is what you gotta present. Okay,

550
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: let me see what you gotta present. You know, those

551
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 3: things I am one hundred percent here for. I'm not

552
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: here for the fighting in the back and forth and

553
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: like you said that, the think pieces. I'm not here

554
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: for the thow wi walk ever never never never never

555
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: sleep niggas.

556
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm not here for none of y'all bitches.

557
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's like I said, we don't have to

558
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: participate in going back and forth with those people. And

559
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: that's why we have this platform and it's a good

560
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: place for us to talk and shit. But end of

561
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: the day, I'm with you on that, I'm not going

562
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: back and forth. But I need to get to know

563
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: these candidates, correct Because also a lot of stuff I've

564
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: heard about them is from people that don't like them,

565
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: and I don't really that's not why I vote. It's

566
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: to hear like you know, cause anyone can give me

567
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: a list of how someone's not perfect, that's nothing to me.

568
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: I want to hear what their policies are, what their

569
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: ideas are, and I don't know enough of that stuff.

570
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what the primary is supposed to be about.

571
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be about what are your ideas for

572
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: the country. If I end up not liking a candidate

573
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: because I don't like their ideas, fine, right if I

574
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna just accept your like, oh twiteter,

575
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: I made a seventeen part three about Okay, great for you.

576
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait for to hear the fucking

577
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: how to answer the questions in the primary, and then

578
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: we'll see. Not to mention, the other thing is, and

579
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: like I said, this isn't to be offensive, some of

580
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: these issues people have with these people are so local

581
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: and so small that they literally don't matter to me.

582
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: You're going to have to find a way to connect

583
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: that to what they're running for president about. If you

584
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: can't do that, then leave me alone, like you can't

585
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: be well in this case, this happened and and then

586
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Corey Booker took this and then this is a I

587
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: need to know how you feel like that's gonna affect

588
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: his fucking policy. Show me that, show me your work,

589
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: because if not, then you're just being like this person

590
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: did a thing I disagree with. Okay, that all of

591
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: them are going to just want.

592
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: To let all of them, every single even your fave,

593
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: even if you don't vote, even if you do vote,

594
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: every single person that wins in office is gonna do

595
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: something you disagree with.

596
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: Yes, a matter of fact, I'm gonna do something you

597
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: disagree with. Same over Hell, don't put me on no pedestals.

598
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't like falling. Uh far, says one more thing

599
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: the Kevin Hart. I think the part of the reason

600
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: white gays are able to forgive easier is because of

601
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: the soft bigotry of lower expectations. These are the same

602
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: gays that perpetuate the myth that black people are more

603
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: homophobic than the dominant society, despite the fact that homophobia

604
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: that threatens them the most, laws, conversion therapy, etc. All

605
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: originate among white people. They basically hold Kevin Harr and

606
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: other sis had black men to lower standards. Meanwhile, queer

607
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: black people are over here looking sideways that SIS had

608
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 2: black men. Because we know these niggas can do and

609
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: be better, they just don't want to. There you go,

610
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: and we're looking sideways at white gays because we know

611
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: that racism is at the core at lower expectations. Yep,

612
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: that's exactly what That's exactly what I'm saying. That's exactly

613
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: how I felt, you know, because I was trying to

614
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: wrap my head around this goddamn Kevin Harns shit last week,

615
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: and I think it was through the on the show

616
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: with Karen that I had that kind of breakthrough. I'm like,

617
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: it's just gotta be that they really don't expect us

618
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: to be They don't expect black men to be progressive,

619
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Speaker 2: especially black comedians, because most black comedians aren't really progressive,

620
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, they just conservatives. They make jokes and it's

621
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: and most of the jokes are like I can say

622
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: it because I'm black. You know. That's why a lot

623
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: of people's favorite comedians they're they're not my favorite. It

624
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they're not funny, doesn't mean they but

625
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people's favorite like comics are like, I'm like,

626
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: they funny, but I don't agree with their worldview because honestly,

627
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: that's again that's against what I'm about, right, you know,

628
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: like Patrisea O'Neill's very regressive in his gender politics. Now

629
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: I understand that he's you know, he's I'm just a nigga.

630
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't care. But they use that kind of like

631
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm just a nigga shit so they can have the

632
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: lowest bar to jump over when it comes to their comedy,

633
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: you know, and people call it a genius, but it's like, well,

634
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: you lower the bar for this genius if this is

635
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: just some dude out here saying this shit. A lot

636
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: of times it's like, this dude's not that funny. Andrew

637
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Dice Clay got canceled for the same type of shit

638
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: a lot of black comics, do you know. It's just

639
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: that kind of thing where like white people wouldn't accept

640
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: that shit from a black comic, you know, but they don't.

641
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: They think of us as minstrels and gestures and oh,

642
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: they're just so their culture is just so backwards. So

643
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: it's okay for them to hate their women, it's okay

644
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: for them to hate gay people. And the other thing is,

645
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: and this is the part Karen helped me put together

646
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: on the show. The other part is they just looking

647
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: at them, like you hating your black gays and your

648
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: black women, and you're hating your black kids. So I

649
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: don't care about that. Come come on the show. I

650
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: forgive you. You know, it's it's all bullshit. Trey says

651
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: racist muppet bars. I forget when we did racist muppet bars,

652
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: but we must have done it.

653
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: Sugar Pod says, just wanted to say that Tdjke's prayer.

654
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: Happened at my church. Oh insert British girl who's sad,

655
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: angry and disappointed.

656
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be too, angry and disappointed. That's girl

657
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: sound to me.

658
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I my reaction, Yes, angry, sad and disappointed. I

659
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 3: see if I can play in the background. It's my

660
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: favorite clip. I love that little white girl.

661
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: She's black around black, Okay, some kind of brown I

662
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: remember seeing Listen Chicken. Universally, it doesn't matter.

663
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: What angry.

664
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: Side.

665
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed.

666
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: For real though. I had to step away from them

667
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: when they started bringing problematic pastors like Jakeson John Gray

668
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: to visit and make anti gay sermons. It's a shame

669
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: that church didn't always used to be like that. That's funny.

670
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: We always talk about progress, especially within the frames of

671
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: like defending the Black church, like, well they getting better

672
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: and not all churches is like that, and that is

673
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: true to an extent, but we very rarely talk about regressing.

674
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: And how you know, I really applaud you for the

675
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: for doing something tough man and walking away from that church.

676
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: You know, that's hard because church for black people especially

677
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: is community. Yes it is. And you know it used

678
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: to be a place we came for political power and

679
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: stuff because also that was where we were able to meet,

680
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: not under the auspices of the watchful white man's eyes alone.

681
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: And what's sad now is that, you know, it is

682
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: really regrets for a lot of a lot of folks

683
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: in our time, and they wonder why people are leaving

684
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: the church and stuff, and it's because of this, you know.

685
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: And I'm also, like I said, it's tough to leave.

686
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: You know. I get the people that say stay there

687
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: and change it, but like, are you really changing it?

688
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: Are you just comfortable staying there because you don't want

689
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: to cause no ways? You know, because sometimes people be

690
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: like stay there and changeable, what they really mean is

691
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: just sit in the seats, give your ties, you know,

692
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: personally feel that hey I disagree, and then just keep

693
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: showing up, so they don't know the difference. How's it

694
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: anything changing because you're just having to be in the room,

695
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: You're not really changing anything. It would take some type

696
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: of pause in the leadership, some type of conscientious objection,

697
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: it would take some type of protest, some type of

698
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: organ organizing. And at the end of the day, most

699
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: people ain't got time for all that shit. Now, don't

700
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: blame you. You know, most people got actual real jobs.

701
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: Well that that's not you know, like they don't protest

702
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: for a living and shit, and you end up leaving,

703
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: you know, or you end up going there and basically

704
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: acquiescing to their views and uh, that's dope that you

705
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: were able to say, Nah, I'll go find somewhere else,

706
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: Like this is fucked up.

707
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: So judges are everywhere.

708
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh do you want to see black people from

709
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: the Green Book win any awards? Yes? But just them? No,

710
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: they need to lose too, Karen, Yes, but just them,

711
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: you and sixty five percent of our hypocritically ass black audience.

712
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I am just on the same age.

713
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: God, I love black people.

714
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for all the black people and know they

715
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: need to lose to thirty five percent of y'all are consistent,

716
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: but damn y'all against the niggas.

717
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Wow, couldn't be me. Uh C.

718
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: This is one time when I'm contradicting myself and I

719
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: know it, yep, but no, I feel it's problematic.

720
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: But yes, I want them to win.

721
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: I phrased it that way because I know that's how

722
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: niggas really feel. They try, they keep trying to put

723
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: these keep writing these long ass pieces and ship, and

724
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, stop, just stop, just to say you want

725
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: the black people to win, but you don't want the

726
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: movie to win. I get it. All this deep ass ship. God.

727
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: I've seen Cardi B and City Girls who supposed to

728
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: canceled did a video did a video. There was talking

729
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 2: and shit and uh it was all women in that turking,

730
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: mostly black and brown women, uh turking, And it was

731
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: beautiful and everybody.

732
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: Loved it and with prints and everything.

733
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: People was comparing the rump shake and tip drill all

734
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: this type of ship whatever. But then I saw it's

735
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: already going hove it and folks and I'm paraphrase. I

736
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: don't remember the title, but it was like the body

737
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: politic of the revolutionary female in power and Cardi b

738
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: video outside the ouspices of the male gaze or something

739
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: like that, And I was like, y'all got damn walks.

740
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: You're ruin everything. You're ruined everything. I would never go

741
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: to the strip club with any of y'all. You just

742
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: have ruined it. You make everything trash. What's wrong with that?

743
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: Start coming down all of a sudden, I gotta deal

744
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: with you getting on the podium and giving uspeece.

745
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: You get the fuck out of hell. You see the

746
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: capitalistic exchange of this money for these churk, these tworking

747
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: ass cheeses. Its really about the freedom of the freedom

748
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: of the black body, a pressure patriarchy, white male games

749
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Like god, damn you ever just have a good time?

750
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: Ever ride out with yo ass off the stage and

751
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: tell the DJ to turn it up.

752
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: Damn like good grief. Just let I just can we

753
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: just can? I just want to see some butt cheese

754
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: twork without it turning into.

755
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: A dissertation like I not drink my dollar margarita and

756
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: somebody else drink their hennessy and all of us be

757
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: happy in that bitch.

758
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: Because do you know who I would like to hear

759
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: that from. If that's the truth, Carty, come on. Now.

760
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: If Carty say that's what she meant, then cool. But

761
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: some of y'all turn everything somebody you like does into

762
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: a statement, and it just ain't. It ain't always that,

763
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: it's nothing, and it's nothing wrong with not with it

764
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: just being like, I thought it would be fun to

765
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: get the best workers together and make a video that

766
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: we knew would go straight up viral because everybody want

767
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: to see it. And I came from the poll, and

768
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: I ain't ashamed of the poll.

769
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: She ain't ashamed of it.

770
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: That's it. And these other rappers that and singers and

771
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: pop stars didn't come from that shit, so they can't

772
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: even do what she do. They had to go by

773
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: get women to surround them to do that shit because

774
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: they can't do it themselves. You know, like, why can't

775
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: it just be that simple, man, Why can't it just

776
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: be we like seeing some twerking, And she knew we

777
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: wanted to see someone, and I'm for it, And instead

778
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: we gotta talk about you know, we gotta take it

779
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: all the way back to Zordnell Hurston. And I'm like,

780
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: come on now, I'm not saying CARDI don't know nothing

781
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: about Zordnel Hurston, but I would like to hear her

782
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: say it before you write a four thousand word peace

783
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: on the shit, good grief anyway, man? Uh that that

784
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: videos are amazing.

785
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: And print body paint for days. I didn't know what

786
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: was happening. I was like, what is that a Treatah?

787
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: The drafts happening?

788
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: Yes? So anyway, Like I actually want to see how

789
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna reconcile Cardi doing that super Bowl ad, but

790
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: she won't be she refused to do the super Bowl

791
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: halftime show. What's the difference to people? Really? Like do

792
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: they Because I saw people celebrating when it was like

793
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: Cardi b will have a super Bowl ad along with Beyonce,

794
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: I was like yes, And I was like I thought

795
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: we was boyking? No we not? Or so we're supporting

796
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: what were not? Or are we supporting them getting money

797
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: from doing it? Are we supporting them? Because they are

798
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: still kind of depending on that audience to watch the commercials?

799
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: So what's the what are the politics on that? And

800
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: so far the walks have been quiet.

801
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see them talk about it after the super Bowl,

802
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: But you know, it was just interesting because I'm like,

803
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: the true is we just rooting for these people as

804
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: individuals because they black and brown and we like some

805
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: of them, and we just keep trying to complicate it

806
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: and explain it over and over and over again, when

807
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't really need to explain it. You're

808
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of a hypocrite. You're a little bit inconsistent.

809
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: You're not a machine, you're not a robot, and that's

810
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: okay what you're you gonna say.

811
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I wonder is there a group out

812
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: there that you know?

813
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: How you got like the Wokes and everything? It's just

814
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: woke woke. I wonder do you got a group of

815
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: people out there? You know what this says?

816
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: I sleep sometimes, I'm okay, I sleep. I'm not woke

817
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: all the time. I'm woke sometimes, but like.

818
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: It sometimes woke. I like that group.

819
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: I am sometimes woke, yeah, all the time, woke sometimes.

820
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: Like the whole thing is funny because anyway, I'm gonna

821
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: move off. It's just I mean, it's like if you

822
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: can't laugh, then then how the fuck are y'all getting

823
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: through life? Because I have to laugh a little.

824
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: Bit to be like, cause like, damn niggas can really

825
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: be full of shit, but they can find we just

826
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: now have the language to make our full of shitness

827
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: like a dissertation as opposed to being like, I'm kind

828
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: of full of shit, y'all. I didn't cancel the City Girls.

829
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: I kept listening, and as.

830
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: Soon as I see them black girls talking in the video,

831
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, shit, that's my homegirls, and you

832
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: don't want to admit that that's what really happens. So

833
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: now you gotta write this long ass piece about how

834
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: I never canceled black women or some shit, and I'm like,

835
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: but y'all canceled Orshet Michelle. This is the kind of

836
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: stuff that goes through my brain all the time. I

837
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: just don't say it no more because I'm just like,

838
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: what the like. I don't say it online because I'm

839
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: just like, y'all, niggas will be niggas. People gonna be people.

840
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: It's okay.

841
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the name of the group is Wokesh stinkery.

842
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: We are Wokesh.

843
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even judging. I'm just saying I'm not even judging.

844
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, join me in me, saying, like, listen, everybody

845
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: need to chill a little bit and not be so

846
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: serious because you're not actually consistent. You just you know,

847
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: you know another example, God, now I can't stop thinking

848
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: of them. Another example, all these woke ass niggs I canceled,

849
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: Charla Maine canceled, fucked the breakfast club they had. What's

850
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: that Nigga loved to fall on? There was transphobic that

851
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: he got that son though he gave credit to Tommy

852
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Lauren and shaded these black women and black feminists. Da right,

853
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: he's a rapist. He's just like all the stuff people

854
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: were saying. Right, they let something happen on the breakfast club.

855
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: Watch that shit go viral on my woke ass timeline. Right,

856
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: these are the woke people that canceled him. Just not

857
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: too long.

858
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Ago that ray J pulled out some more glasses.

859
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: That shit was.

860
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? I don't even I'm

861
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: not even none of them circles.

862
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: All I know is a bunch of fucking clips of

863
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 3: ray J with these glasses.

864
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: The ship was hilarious.

865
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna lie, but I'm like, for y'all

866
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: niggas and talking about this nigga is canceled.

867
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: It was fucking everywhere.

868
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: Right, Like it's so when I'm uh so, that was

869
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: the thing. You have to up back from the optics

870
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 2: of shit, because like the Internet will have you thinking,

871
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: niggas is one way because they talk a good game

872
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: in the moment and everyone's giving their moment to moment thought.

873
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: But if you step back from the tapestry and look

874
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: at the bigger picture of how people behave, it's not true.

875
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't even watch and I don't know

876
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: why people did watch it. I guess because it was viral,

877
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: or maybe it was entertaining, and I just you know,

878
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: I've never was that big of a Breakfast Club fan.

879
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: But the Soldier Boy interview I've seen, right, I haven't

880
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: seen it either, but I have seen every meme of

881
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: him talking about break I've seen these small like one

882
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: or two second clips and gifts and stuff, and I'm,

883
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm not knocking people for doing this.

884
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get people to understand that the bigger

885
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: picture is when Charlemagne does say the next fucked up thing,

886
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: it's also because you, because you do go back despite

887
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: all your protest protestations, because at the end of the day,

888
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: the deal is entertainment for attention and for money, and

889
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: that's all you really care about. And maybe it's because

890
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: I'm on the producer side of content and you're on

891
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: the consumer side of content. You don't see that picture,

892
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you what the picture is. You're not

893
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: actually like that deep or that woke, or that principle

894
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: or that profound. If someone is willing to give you

895
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: the toy to play with, you just run back to

896
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: the toy. You don't really care where it's coming from.

897
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: So it's kind of interesting you know that people you know,

898
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: because people will be like, I don't do this, but

899
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, it can't be true on the big picture

900
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: because too much of the shit still out there. None

901
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: of this shit offended you as deeply as you.

902
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: Said, right, And at the end of the day, there

903
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: will be a small percentage of people that are that

904
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: have morals and just say fuck it, But that percentage

905
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: is so small.

906
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Numbers don't lie.

907
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: People don't realize this.

908
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: You can tell me or not tell me you're actions,

909
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: but numbers don't lie.

910
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: Their ratings say that niggas is watching. That's what their ratings.

911
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: Say, regardless if you talk about it on your social

912
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: media or not. There's a lot of people who don't

913
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: say anything about Charlemagne or the Brooklyns Club, anything online

914
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: because they don't want to fight and fall out with people.

915
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: But you're watching, You're turning on, you're watching the YouTube,

916
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: and that's fine, you have the right to do that.

917
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: But then don't turn around and tell me this nigga canceled.

918
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: Well, there's also these the peer pressure to these social moments,

919
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: right like does this You're gonna be outside the conversation now,

920
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, Well, if you didn't see this conversation on

921
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club, then you don't know what Kevin Hart said.

922
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: And most people, you know, it's like driving past a

923
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: car wreck. You have to see it for yourself. You know,

924
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: people can't help themselves. And I'm saying, as a person

925
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: that wants to love everybody, right, I understand that that's

926
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: just a part of humanity. And I'm letting people cook

927
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: on that. Obviously, it's not like I have a choice,

928
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: but it's just interesting to observe. When you step back,

929
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: when you're in the fray, you feel like, oh, no,

930
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: I'm consistent, I say, I don't focus so on. So yeah,

931
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: you say that, but do you you know you don't

932
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: fuck with R Kelly because you think he's an abuser

933
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: of women. But then Charlemagne is on your show, you're

934
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: going on his show, or you got him talking in

935
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: the documentary. We're inconsistent. We are we're human, and there

936
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: has to be some allotment for that, cause we're not

937
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: fucking robots, you know. But people take that as like

938
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: an impugning that credibility of saying they're a bad person.

939
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're a bad person, saying you're human,

940
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: saying you're gonna you're not gonna always match up to

941
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: your shit, you know, and sometimes you're gonna want to

942
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: match up and you're gonna fail somehow. Anyway, I like

943
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: to look and observe the moral quandaries that people put

944
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: themselves in and the long term behavior because, like I said,

945
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: I've seen that, whether you want to admit it or not,

946
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: you sharing the memes are as also promoting the breakfast club. Right,

947
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: So if you share the ray, J Glass sustained to

948
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: be like, oh, look at this, you are helping them

949
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: on some level. That's okay with me. I'm not, you know,

950
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: because I see people. I know there's a big ass tangent,

951
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: but I see people sometimes do this thing on social media.

952
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: They're like, if you do blank, follow me, meet me,

953
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: block me, And I'm like, that's not true. You're not

954
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: gonna you don't actually want people to do that. What

955
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: you you want those people to join your calls on

956
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: your side today because it's how you feel today, by

957
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: the way, you want them to do this thing for

958
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: you today, and your finicky ass won't even feel that way.

959
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: In a ma, your ass will be back doing the

960
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: thing you told them not to do. You know, Yeah,

961
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: you saw something and got upset, and today you feel

962
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: a way. Are you gonna be able to keep that

963
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: up for the rest of the year? You know, it's

964
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: like a New Year's resolution, you know. Motherfuckers be starting

965
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: every day resolutions and quitting them twenty days later and

966
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: be like I said, who said that? You know, like

967
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: a smooth.

968
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Three weeks that for real, that's has smoothed through after

969
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: about two.

970
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: Most people be like yeah, And so I have to

971
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 2: have some allowance in my mind for that, because one,

972
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: I'm sure I do that on some level. I'm sure

973
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: I do. It's just with different shit. I'm sure one

974
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: hundred percent. It's not me saying I'm above people. So

975
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: I have to ask some some justice for myself I

976
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: have to have some patience and some kindness for myself.

977
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: But then too, I'm tired of fucking supposedly having to

978
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: have grudges and cancelations against people, even even on a

979
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: mocking way or a joking way, because because that's because

980
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: it's not real and it's really just people stirring themselves

981
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: up in a constant world with a promotion that they.

982
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: Can't maintain, or if they do maintain it, it's probably

983
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 3: something unhealthy attached to that.

984
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: Yes, it is so anyway back to this CT rights

985
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that they should never win again

986
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: in their life, but I don't think they should win

987
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: for the specific project. Where artists take on these projects,

988
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: everyone is at risk because people don't know what's going

989
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: to going to hit, what's going to flop. But this

990
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 2: film seen down from the beginning, and then some exceptionally

991
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: grave decisions were made during the film to put it

992
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: even further down to losing battle. I think Octavia and

993
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: maherschel Love will be more than fine. It was a

994
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: bad project, and everyone has a bad project to two

995
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: in their record. So long as they sing waste time

996
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: doubling down. Oh as long as they don't waste time

997
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: doubling down on their poor decision called cough Kevin, then

998
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: they will be fine. I even think Kevin Hart will

999
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: be fine. He will, But as far as the wards go,

1000
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: I think they should just bow out gracefully and let

1001
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: the lesser problematic films actors and actresses get in there

1002
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: for the win.

1003
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah it's I'm gonna say this CT. It's easy to

1004
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: say that ship when it ain't you. Yeah, because os Ar,

1005
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: they have tarnished the film so bad that yeah, nobody's

1006
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm talking about.

1007
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's easy to say bow out and let

1008
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: somebody else win, know, or when it ain't you come

1009
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: on now? Like them, niggas work just as hard as acting.

1010
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: They they did what.

1011
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: They were supposed to do. Other people fucked up.

1012
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: Not them. They did just as much promoting for this

1013
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: film as they were supposed to do. They like, they

1014
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: dedicated their blood, sweating tears of this shit. And just

1015
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: because Shadow and act decided that this film was the

1016
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: the you know, this year's Detroit or whatever, I don't

1017
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: think those black actors are gonna necessarily hop on board

1018
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 2: with that, not even for the quote unquote bigger picture better.

1019
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's still that scarcity of parts. It's still

1020
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: that you know, a claim of having that award. No

1021
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: one's gonna give a fuck about how Marshal Ali won

1022
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: that a Green brook oscar if he gets one, no

1023
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: one's gonna care. Twenty years from now, We're just gonna

1024
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: say he won or he didn't win, or he was

1025
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: nominated or he wasn't nominated. And there's so few of

1026
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: these choices every year, and so few of these opportunities

1027
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: every year, and within the career of an actor, there's

1028
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: no telling if he will even be hot next year.

1029
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: If you'll I mean, Marshal Ali is like too bad

1030
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: projects from us being like who you know? So uh

1031
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: and I and and I mean we all think Hershaal

1032
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: is a good actor and you know all that shit. Seriously,

1033
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: Let's let let True Detective be bad and let him

1034
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: and let uh that a carror movie be bad funk

1035
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: around to be like he can't get called back. You know,

1036
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: we've seen it happen to better or not I shouldn't

1037
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: say better, that's that's not what I mean. We've seen

1038
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: it happen to other actors before. Well, we're like, what

1039
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: happened to them. They were a good actor. Well they

1040
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: also were black, and they did they get one fuck up?

1041
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: You know, So I understand what you're saying, but I

1042
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: just don't think. I don't know, I don't think they're

1043
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 2: gonna bow out or nothing.

1044
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, with it, ain't you you up

1045
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: for an award at your job or some accolades at

1046
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: your job and somebody, you know what, were you bowed

1047
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 3: for the better cause you're gonna write the funck I will.

1048
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know shadow in that wants to get

1049
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: them up out of here, and that's I mean the movie.

1050
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: That's fine, but yeah, the Casualties award at gender means

1051
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: though black actors and black show, the black producers and stuff,

1052
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: they gotta go too.

1053
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: Can't have it one way, right, You're gonna like, I'm

1054
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 3: not bowing down these white folks.

1055
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Is fucking up? That's that fuck up? Yeah? All right.

1056
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: We had episode eighteen twenty three, Officer Magic Stick, and

1057
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: we had a lot of comments, We had ten. But

1058
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: what happened was Cantrice wrote in and and we me

1059
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: and her went back and forth a little bit talking

1060
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 2: about her the Terry Crews segment. Okay, so I can't.

1061
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna read all the back and forth because

1062
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: it's actually pretty long, but I'll read her comments anyway.

1063
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: And then also I'm going to try to bring up

1064
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: Terry Crews's interview again in the background so we can

1065
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: listen to it one more time. It's only a minute

1066
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: in fourteen seconds. But you know, I know some persons,

1067
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: there's some people that are like, oh, they wrote in

1068
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: and say listen again because they think, you know, we

1069
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: misinterpreted or something. So we'll do all that. Katre says Katrice.

1070
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: Two six says Rod. I think the disconnecting you all

1071
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: discussion about black women supporting Terry Crews was that you

1072
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: very rarely critique black women specifically, and even when you do,

1073
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: you rarely say black women. Even in this discussion, you

1074
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: said people instead of black women. So to me and

1075
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: maybe Karen as well, when you say people, my mind

1076
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: doesn't immediately infer black women. I think the discussion was

1077
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: a little jarring, not offense. Well, hold on, let me

1078
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: answer that question real quick. When I say people, I

1079
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: mean people. When I say black women, I mean black women.

1080
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: What happens is that black women are in a group

1081
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: of people. So in that discussion. Specifically, I remember being like, well,

1082
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: I can see how he would be surprised that black

1083
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: women supported him, because people don't normally support sexual assault victims. Correct,

1084
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean the group of people, everybody, everybody. When I

1085
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: say black women, I'm saying specifically black women. So I'm

1086
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: not trying to mitigate the criticism I would have a

1087
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: black women. It's just in generally specifically, there's not really

1088
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: any criticism of black women I wouldn't have against that

1089
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: is not then relegated to all people. You know, black

1090
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 2: women are people, and they're human and just like everybody else,

1091
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: and we you know, black women have hypocrisy like everybody else.

1092
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: They are affected by patriarchy like everybody else, sexism, racism, bigotry.

1093
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: But black women, because they suffer many times doubly triplely

1094
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: under the oppression of this society, they are often also

1095
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: on the front lines of being the most militant, the

1096
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: most revolutionary, the most outspoken. So in a way that

1097
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: would not surprise me, I can still see Terry Crews

1098
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: being surprised. But anyway, that being said, black women still

1099
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: are people. So when I say stuff like with Kevin

1100
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: Hart's what appeared to be a sexual assault to me

1101
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: and people with his sexual assault. When I say people

1102
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: were flipping sides, I mean people, not black women, people

1103
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: black There were black women that flip sides definitely that

1104
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: were included in that group of people. There were black

1105
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: women that are typically against sexual assault that were like

1106
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: his cheating, ask that ain't no sexual assault, he was

1107
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: just drunk? What was he doing in that room? And

1108
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: shit that they wouldn't say normally, you know, if it

1109
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: was a woman, they normally would not say. And then

1110
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: there were black men that flipped that were normally only

1111
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: what she had on while she go to the room, Well,

1112
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: what you think gonna happen? That were suddenly listen, God,

1113
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: sexual saults are very serious thing. And I'm like, people

1114
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: flip flopping on this one? What happened? You know? Like

1115
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: why y'all change just because the gingers of the parties

1116
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: involved change? You know, we see it with divorced situations,

1117
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: and you know, when it's a woman that has the

1118
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: money and she's getting divorced, we see women suddenly be like,

1119
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: he ain't earned none of this money? What the fuck

1120
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: he you know, we see that happen, and by the

1121
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: same token, we see the men that are typically like, look,

1122
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 2: if you come into this marriage and you ain't kind

1123
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: of nothing, you leaving with nothing, and all of a sudden,

1124
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: they flip flopping on that shit. So when I say people,

1125
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: I mean people, you know, very specifically, they're like, it's

1126
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: not like I would never get on the mic and

1127
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: just Panda because I actually hate that shit and it's

1128
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: it's not genuine and it's not real. But you know,

1129
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: I do hold black women in very high esteem. But

1130
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: that's because I believe black women do a lot of

1131
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: estimable shit. I don't know if that's a word, you

1132
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, but it's not like I'm

1133
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: sitting here here like let me put you on a

1134
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: pedestal so that you can no longer be human, so

1135
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: that you're this perfect, morally virtual Like that's not true.

1136
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: That's not even allowing people to be human. It's you know,

1137
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not one of these people. But it's

1138
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: like when people say they don't like black Girl magic

1139
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: because it implies its perfection of bla blackness and we

1140
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: can take any amount of struggle and we can take

1141
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: and then I and I get what they say, and

1142
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with it, but I get what

1143
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: they're saying, which is that don't don't lionize us so

1144
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: much that we now are we're so human, we're basically subhuman.

1145
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: We don't never make no mistakes, we don't never Uh,

1146
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, there's no such thing. There's no black woman

1147
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: you can disagree with because she's still a black woman.

1148
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: You know, she could say something HOMOPHOBI and you gotta

1149
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: be like, well, she is a black woman, so I

1150
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: don't want to call out. So I get the whole

1151
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: like uh idea that uh. And I've watched people do

1152
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: that where they basically pander like they're like they're doing

1153
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: uh like they're a politician trying to win a black

1154
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: women vote. Only like you know, I don't think you

1155
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: need to do that. Just be honest, you know. And

1156
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: I'm and I try to just be honest about these

1157
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: things where I'm like, yeah, I've seen some black women

1158
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: flip flop on this kind of shit. But anytime that's happened,

1159
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: I've seen people flip flop. It's never just black women

1160
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: in those situations. Always like a lot of people like

1161
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: whereas uh, like I said, men that are that are

1162
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: normally just very sexist and anti sex or assault what

1163
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: you call it. Uh, they're they're they're they're they're apologies

1164
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: for sexual assault flip when it's a man flip, you know.

1165
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: And in this case, it was interesting because a lot

1166
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: of the things that we are taught to believe make

1167
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: black men masculine are the things that Terry Crews appears

1168
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: to be. And when he says I was sexually assaulted

1169
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: and I didn't like physically assault this man, it it

1170
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: bothered me mentally. Uh, it affected my relationships with people.

1171
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: I understand how he felt that way because it's isolating.

1172
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: That's what they depend on. It doesn't change because he's

1173
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: a black man, you know, and it's and it's they're

1174
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: supposed to make. And the shame we attached the sexual

1175
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: assault makes you feel like if I say this thing,

1176
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: I am letting down black people, I'm letting down my manhood.

1177
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm uh, no one's gonna like me. Everyone's gonna pick

1178
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: on me, They're gonna think I'm weak. This is exactly

1179
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: what they depend on, you know. So in that way,

1180
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, to be fair to him,

1181
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: I understood his point, and I still think the question

1182
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: was frying kind of weird and shit and and we'll

1183
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: listen again because maybe we caught something wrong. I hear

1184
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 2: I heard, you know, I read a couple of people

1185
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: that said that, but I don't know. So I just

1186
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: want to say that anyway, I would not say. I'm

1187
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: not flip flipping back and forth and being like this

1188
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: isin't gonna sound good for black women. So let me

1189
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: say people, no, no, no, I mean people all right.

1190
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: I think the discussion was a little jarring, not offensive,

1191
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: because it was one or the few times in which

1192
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: you sounded like a regular black man. Generally, your points

1193
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: are so progressive and pro feminism, especially pro black women,

1194
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: that I rarely think of you like a Charlemagne or

1195
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: Kevin har or even Lebron And that to say that,

1196
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: that's not to say that I think, first of all,

1197
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: I do feel like I'm a regular black man. Please

1198
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: don't put me on the pedestal of irregular, because like

1199
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to fall off nobody's pedestals.

1200
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that I think of you

1201
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: or that you intentionally try to be an exceptional Negro,

1202
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: more so that I appreciate the love and adoration you

1203
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: have for black women. I also understand that your argument

1204
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: wasn't specific to the black man's experience. I think you

1205
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: were highlighting the human experience of dealing with this era

1206
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: of social media. Yeah, I mean I forgot Okay, I

1207
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: think we didn't bring it up in that discussion. But

1208
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: Terry CRUs was also the guy that said he stopped

1209
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: masturbating because it made him cheat on his wife. And

1210
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: I remember he didn't mocked for that. Yes he did,

1211
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: and I guarantee you he remembers that shit too, you

1212
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: know so. And it wasn't just black women, Black everybody

1213
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: mocked him. You know. I think being surprised that you

1214
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: have support in this world is not ironically, it's not

1215
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: surprising that you would be surprised, you know. I mean,

1216
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: I saw last night BLAIRMANI said something about how she

1217
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: thinks she was unwillingly duped into helping the FBI because

1218
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: she was seeking protecting. She's a blair Moni's an activist

1219
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: and that whole community that's about like love and transparency

1220
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: and acceptance and hey, you made a mistake and we're

1221
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: radical black film love. It wasn't like that last night.

1222
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: She was getting clowned, like you dumb motherfucker. You couldn't

1223
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: see that coming, and why would you trust them and

1224
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: all that shit. So it really like you don't know

1225
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: what response you're getting when you put the shit out.

1226
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure you know, maybe does an extent,

1227
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: she knew she would get some clown in. But think

1228
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: about it, that's supposed to be a lot of woke

1229
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: activists like fave motherfucker. Like, it's a lot of people

1230
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: that if you win search state history beyond last night,

1231
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: they were calling her, you know, the in the world.

1232
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: She said that shit last night. Now she's the worst,

1233
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: you know. So all that to say, I could see

1234
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: how he would be scared and think that he's about

1235
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: to get roasted by everybody. You know. Let me go

1236
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: and play this interview though, because like I said, I

1237
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: literally have forgotten exactly what was said.

1238
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 4: So, Terry Dominique, are wants to know whose support surprised

1239
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 4: you the most when you spoke out about the sexual

1240
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: assault that you experienced.

1241
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: Wow, whose support surprised me the most? You know, to

1242
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 6: be honest with you, when it first happened, there was

1243
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 6: none right for a long time. But but I have

1244
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 6: to say that the people who surprised me the most

1245
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 6: were black women. Black men did not want any part

1246
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 6: of it.

1247
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: Really.

1248
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: All all my.

1249
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 6: Support came from black women, straight up, and that's that's

1250
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 6: kind of wild. It was. It shocked me, It shocked

1251
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 6: my family, and shocked everybody because I thought, oh my god,

1252
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 6: you know, here, here I am, as a black man

1253
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 6: saying some things that we've all been through. And a

1254
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 6: lot of guys was just like, man, you're weak. You sorry.

1255
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 6: You should have hit him, you should have knocked him out,

1256
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 6: you should have did all this stuff. And black women

1257
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 6: were like, no, no, it doesn't work like that, right,

1258
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 6: And I was. I was shocked at the split within my.

1259
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 4: Own You really noticed that, man, it was deep, Elizabeth.

1260
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm hearing it the second time. I I

1261
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: see what some people were saying. What they said, it

1262
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: was like he was really more talking about the lack

1263
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: of support from black men, which you know, I'm not surprised,

1264
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: but I see how he could be hurt by that obviously.

1265
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I kind of explained that part of it,

1266
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: and then she said, I completely understand. I was just

1267
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: coming back because I forgot to include the example from

1268
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: my own life in which my husband feels very strongly

1269
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 2: about not discussing his issues with depression. He even struggles

1270
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: to discuss it with me, and as a peatedly said,

1271
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: he has he's always believed that black men weren't allowed

1272
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: to show vulnerability. So I can definitely understand how Terry

1273
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: would assume that no one, including black women, would support him. Yeah.

1274
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: That's the other thing too, is like I don't think

1275
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: it's about black women in that way. Like I don't

1276
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: know if it came across from the conversation, but it's

1277
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: very much about what's happening in his brain and his

1278
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: brain it is this thing happened to me, and it's

1279
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: an isolating thing, and it's who's going to support me

1280
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: if anyone's gonna support me, and your expectations or support

1281
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, probably the black community, probably people since had

1282
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: black men like you. You know, that's how your mind

1283
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: would work, Like these people should understand what happened to

1284
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: me was a violation. We end this together and then

1285
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: you find out, no, we're not a lot of these

1286
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: motherfuckers don't care about you. They just talk a good

1287
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: game and then they go, it wouldn't happen to me,

1288
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, same way people did with the the girls

1289
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: r Kelly had in his coat. It wouldn't happen to me.

1290
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's what we love doing that shit. And

1291
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't say when I say, well, I'm not just

1292
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: saying black people. We humans people love doing that shit.

1293
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: And you don't know. If you've never been in that situation.

1294
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: You don't know. And yeah, it was black women on

1295
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: social media specifically that I saw coming to his kind

1296
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: of defense and explanation and support. And I think that

1297
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: is also something that has been built in the short

1298
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: period of time since Terry Crews is out here talking

1299
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: about no watching porn and no masturbating like just that

1300
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: quick and the next time that he really went viral,

1301
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: it was a bunch of people being like it was

1302
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: women that have organized at this point to say, no,

1303
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: we actually speak up for survivors of sexual assault and

1304
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: we're going to speak up for you, you know, which which

1305
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: is interesting because people, and I mean people flip flopped

1306
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: so hard on that, Like I saw black men that

1307
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: would use Terry, they will pick on Terry Crews, but

1308
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: at the same time be like, y'all don't support when

1309
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: black men get sexual assault. Y'all ain't say nothing for

1310
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: Terry Crews. It's like they black women absolutely did. Why

1311
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: you hate black women so much? Why does everything become

1312
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: about how can I demonize black women even if it's

1313
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: not true. Just be happy they's supporting him, and then

1314
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: ask yourself why you don't ever return it. How you

1315
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: always on the side of the accused alleged assaulter every time,

1316
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of time, and then the one time

1317
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: you want to make a point, it's y'all, don't be supporting.

1318
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: Actually we do, now what? Anyway, I'm sorry, that's a

1319
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: big ass tangent. And I asked her, like, what did

1320
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: Lebron do? Because I was like, I didn't know Lebron

1321
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: did anything. So I appreciate the third response because I

1322
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: did respond back like you know that you know basically

1323
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: what I just told y'all, And she said, a parent,

1324
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: appreciate your response. Lebron didn't do anything, I think him.

1325
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: But I think I kind of put you in a

1326
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: solo category, not on a pedestal anything. Oh scared me.

1327
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: I just know. I just know you're very thoughtful and thorough.

1328
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: I try.

1329
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: I need to go around kicking these pedestals.

1330
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: Like I'm so scared of being on these pedestals. Job,

1331
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: please don't uh, but she said, I'm not on one,

1332
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I feel like I'm not in

1333
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: the solo category. I'm scared. But it's so hard to

1334
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: flesh ideas and opinions now, even in real life. Sometimes

1335
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: my husband thinks that I'm this uber aggressive feminist, but

1336
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm really not. I've just had it to advocate for

1337
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: myself because it's a wife, a mother, black woman. I

1338
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: felt overlooked and misunderstood. A lot of it is related

1339
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: to the patriarchy and misogyny that you have to speak of.

1340
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: I was fighting against that strong black woman image that's

1341
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: left so many of us unappreciated, undervalued, and exhausted. Yeah,

1342
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: and that's one of the things I'm trying to not

1343
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: promote when I'm talking about stuff like this, because it's like,

1344
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: black women can mess up, black women can do great things,

1345
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 2: black women can be wrong, black women can be right.

1346
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes the rhetoric and the propaganda and the like, for

1347
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: lack of a better term, pandering that happens in certain spaces,

1348
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: Especially now, I've kind of seen the other side of

1349
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: what that does and how people like monetize it and

1350
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 2: they use it for like these really gross purposes and

1351
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: for their own egos, and they put the like black

1352
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: women brand on everything, but they but some of the

1353
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: main people they fucking use and abuse are black women. Yes,

1354
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, just because you can put it on the

1355
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: T shirt don't mean you for all black women, you know,

1356
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: just because I've seen you know, just because you sell

1357
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: that as your brand. But I've seen the other side

1358
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: of how you treat your fellow black women. Yeah. I'm

1359
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: hip to the game, you know, so you know there's

1360
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: a lot of mean girl magic out there, you know,

1361
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: where it's just disguised as black girl magic in that way.

1362
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 2: So I don't want to pander and be like, yeah,

1363
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: black women always like listen black women, always right, listen

1364
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: to black women. Do this, Yes, you should listen to

1365
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: black women. You should listen to black women based on

1366
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: the same marriage that you listen to everybody else. That

1367
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: was the whole point. Correct, You weren't listening even when

1368
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: they would line up an argument based on all this facts, logic, research, experience,

1369
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: we go, Ah, that's a black woman. I don't want

1370
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: to listen to her like chance, the rapper said, you know,

1371
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: but you should be listening. But it doesn't mean like

1372
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: if Stacy Dash comes up to you, you go, well,

1373
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: she's a black woman, so gotta listen to black women guys, Like, nah,

1374
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: that's not how that works. You still judge it on

1375
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: the merits of the points that are made right. And

1376
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: the same thing with once we lionize black women to

1377
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: a certain point, we then basically set them up to

1378
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: b abus. It's like, oh, you a strong black woman.

1379
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: So if I don't cook and I don't clean, yes,

1380
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: you're working a job, but you should be able to

1381
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 2: do that. Yes, you should take care of the kids

1382
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: more than me. I'm gonna go play ball with Crag

1383
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: and them. And all of a sudden, it's like, we

1384
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: don't turn black girl magic in the black girl mule,

1385
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that's a big thing. And

1386
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: I understood the idea of not expecting black women to

1387
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: do all this work for him, cause, like I told Karen,

1388
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: it's kind of the flip side of that is okay,

1389
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised by the support I expected. Now

1390
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: what Now I'm looking at Terry like, what the fuck

1391
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 2: you mean?

1392
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 3: Dog?

1393
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 2: I mean they better you know what I'm saying, Like

1394
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: we'll be like, what's wrong with this? Dude, right, you know,

1395
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: so it's a real cash twenty two where you want

1396
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: to say I appreciate this support, and I wish they

1397
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: would have said who support did you most appreciate? Yeah,

1398
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: as a question like.

1399
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 3: You said the all dusk aside, and as we talked

1400
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: about it, the way he phrased a question was just

1401
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: a messy ask question like like not trying to be fun.

1402
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: Like the way he phrased it, he could have phrased

1403
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 3: the question better.

1404
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was like a loaded question that

1405
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: answer anyway. But I also know that I'm not perfect.

1406
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: I had to learn to still learn how to communicate

1407
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 2: my needs of so many other life less excuse me

1408
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 2: for getting personal. This life is so late, so complicated

1409
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: in a way. That's why I appreciate you all show

1410
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 2: because is more than just sound bite some hot texts.

1411
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, Katrees And yeah that I was. Once I

1412
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 2: seen Kevin Hart and Charlemagne, I was like, oh hold on,

1413
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: let me just ask you what's going on now? Rather

1414
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: than to try to talk about this Saturday. I can't.

1415
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 3: I can't, Far says on that Fresh Air interview with

1416
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart.

1417
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: It confirmed to me what I always thought about Kevin.

1418
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: Kevin is emotionally stunted. Did you listen to it again

1419
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: or no? Fresh Air interview with Kevin Hart, Yeah, okay,

1420
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: I know you listen to nprs. He's seen both incapable

1421
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: of and unwilling to dig beneath the surface. He's a

1422
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: prime example of someone who could really benefit from therapy

1423
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: because of trauma he's experienced, but because he's been so successful,

1424
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: he never let he never go. He doesn't see anything

1425
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: wrong with himself because I worked out he doesn't see

1426
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: a reason to go deep enough to get his to

1427
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: his core issues with homophobia, but really masculinity. Like that

1428
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: story about his father punching him for crying at his

1429
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: mother's funeral, his mother and the fact that he didn't

1430
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 2: seem to think anything was wrong with that type of

1431
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: toxic masculinity. He just he was just resolute. That said

1432
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, yes, yep, And that was the thing.

1433
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: Terry Gross was trying to get on to dig deep

1434
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 2: or at least consider these things, and he's so in

1435
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: my opinion, blocked off and in de now he would

1436
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: never He knows that if he has to. My guess

1437
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: is he knows that if he has to start considering

1438
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: those things bad, then he has to start considering what

1439
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: kind of person would do something like that to him,

1440
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: and it did that make them bad or whatever? And

1441
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: he seems like one of those positive vibes only people

1442
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 2: that's on some like I don't even dwell on anything

1443
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: that makes me feel bad even a little bit.

1444
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that shit would rock your world because one

1445
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: thing about man, I can't speak for nobody else, but

1446
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 3: I know for me, one thing about getting older and

1447
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 3: deconstructing your childhood and looking at people and adults around

1448
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 3: you and.

1449
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: How they treated you.

1450
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 3: And processing it, you know, because the oldue, particularly in

1451
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 3: the age of social media, there's so many new words

1452
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 3: and phrases and terms and and stuff that were not

1453
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 3: around when I was a child, And so now I

1454
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: can say, oh, that's what that was, and oh that's

1455
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 3: what that was. And this is why I'm fucked up

1456
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 3: in this area. And this is why when things happen,

1457
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm automatically triggered and I don't know fucking why, and

1458
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: I look like a goddamn lunatic. This stems back to

1459
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: these particular situations or this particular person in my family,

1460
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. And some It will

1461
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: really fuck you up because you actually have to sit

1462
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 3: down and actually look at the people around you and go, hey,

1463
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: the people around me did some fucked up shit to

1464
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: me and you got to accept that. And that's very

1465
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 3: hard to do. That's very hard to do. Go okay, yeah,

1466
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 3: this was fucked up. Okay, Now how do I process this?

1467
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 3: And it's hard to process it because some people forgive,

1468
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: some people don't. Some people get mad and bitter and

1469
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: angry and cut them off, some people don't. It is

1470
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 3: a process. It will rock your goddamn world. I know

1471
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 3: because I been there. And you know, once you get

1472
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 3: to the other side of that, you know, you come

1473
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 3: to the realization I know I have is that a

1474
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: lot of people when you as a child, when you

1475
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: are raised, people can only give you, and they can

1476
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: only pour into you what's been poured into them. And

1477
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people they, you know, didn't have the knowledge,

1478
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: didn't have the words, didn't have the education, didn't have

1479
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: good parenting skills.

1480
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: They just don't keep this real.

1481
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 3: There wasn't books out there for them to learn. You know,

1482
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: a lot of them have been abused and misused and

1483
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 3: and done it emotionally and all this stuff. So a

1484
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: lot of times they poured that into you and so,

1485
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 3: and it fucks you up.

1486
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: Let's keep it real. It fucks you up in more

1487
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: ways than you think it will fuck you up.

1488
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: And a lot of times you get to the point to.

1489
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: Where, once you go through the process that you go, Okay,

1490
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: this shit was fucked up. How do our process is?

1491
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 2: What do I go through?

1492
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: Then you have to look within yourself and go where

1493
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: it stops with me, like I will no longer do

1494
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: these negative behavior. I will no longer.

1495
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: Do these things because they're unhealthy. I know, and I

1496
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 3: can see now how they impacted me. I know, and

1497
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: I can see now how they made me feel a

1498
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: certain way. Because some of the behavior that has happened

1499
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 3: for some people, you literally have to cut these family

1500
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 3: members off, and some of them you can go, Okay,

1501
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: I can work around this and we.

1502
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: Can have a somewhat functioning relationship.

1503
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 3: And I think when it comes to family, people whole

1504
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: family own pedestals people, But like this, people.

1505
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: Have been bought and sold family over everything, like in general,

1506
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: they have been bought and sold.

1507
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 3: You got to love your family no matter what, no

1508
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 3: matter if they're abusive, no matter how they mistreat you

1509
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: no matter how they abuse you.

1510
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: Their family, their family, their family, and a.

1511
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 3: Lot of people have bought into that, and there's a

1512
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 3: lot of people that are very, very miserable.

1513
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: Connected to family.

1514
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 3: Once you become an adult and you get out into

1515
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 3: the real world, I'm speaking for me, and you realize

1516
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 3: these traits are just traits of people, and you disassociate

1517
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: the family relationship. You go, oh, no, no, no, these

1518
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 3: are just people traits. You can actually filter them out

1519
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 3: of your life. Yes, I love you, but I have

1520
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: to love you from a distance because you are very

1521
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 3: toxic to me.

1522
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't care nothing about you being my family.

1523
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 3: If you were a coworker, I would not tolerate this.

1524
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 3: If you was a friend, I would not tolerate this.

1525
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: If you was a stranger, I would not tolerate this.

1526
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 3: So I don't give a fuck about you being related

1527
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 3: to me. I'm not tolerating sudden behavior around me.

1528
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: And you have to say that. You have to mean it,

1529
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: and you have to stand behind it.

1530
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 3: And even if that means some of these family members

1531
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 3: you lose connections and relationships with them, that's okay because

1532
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: it will make you a better person in the long run.

1533
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 3: But because we've been sold family over everything. A lot

1534
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 3: of people will keep these relationships going when these relationships.

1535
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: Truly need to die, they actually need to die, you know.

1536
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 3: You and people don't want to get to the real

1537
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 3: root of these things, and they wonder why they're miserable

1538
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: going to family functions. They wonder why they don't want

1539
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 3: to go to family functions, and wonder why they don't

1540
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 3: want to go to family re unions. You know, they

1541
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: wonder why they don't want to go with certain femomen's house.

1542
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: A lot of the stems down to shit that does

1543
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 3: happen to you in the past, and truth be told,

1544
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 3: when you was talking about Kevin Hart and a lot

1545
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: of other people, it's a lot of people that will

1546
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: never come to that realization, ever come to that realization

1547
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 3: in their lifetime, because a lot of your families have

1548
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 3: been brainwashed into this bullshit and they pass this bullshit.

1549
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: On to you, and so you really can't talk to them.

1550
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: A lot of times you have to talk to people

1551
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: outside of your family to actually enlighten.

1552
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 3: Yourself, to get to the point where you can see

1553
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 3: the situation. You have to be outside of the situation

1554
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: to be a therapist, be a family member that may be,

1555
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 3: may be separate, be you know, a friend that might

1556
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: might be you can lean on, but yeah, you know,

1557
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 3: and it's a process. And nobody wants to ever say

1558
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: my child who was fucked up? Nobody wants to say that.

1559
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to say I might have been abused, I

1560
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 3: might have been misused. Nobody ever because it's a sad place.

1561
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 3: But the thing is, you got to have those feelings

1562
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: and emotions to get to the other side to make

1563
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 3: you a better person. And that's something that I feel

1564
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: like a lot of people don't want to do. And

1565
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: from the way you're signing, that's something that Kevin Hart,

1566
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 3: because that's the thing. Once you start tapping on that

1567
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 3: once you start tapping on that door and it opens up,

1568
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 3: it's an emotional baggage that's probably bigger and deeper than

1569
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 3: you ever thought. And then you'll start questioning, Hey, how

1570
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 3: am I responding to my husband? How am I responding

1571
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: to my significant other? How am I responding to my wife?

1572
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 3: How do I treat my children? Do I raise my

1573
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 3: voice at my children?

1574
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 6: You know?

1575
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: Do I have a short temper with my children?

1576
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: Guess what?

1577
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: Just like family members have with me, you know, do

1578
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 1: I put.

1579
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 3: My hands on my children, you'll start questioning everything at

1580
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: every aspect of your life. And nobody wants to do

1581
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 3: that because the thing is everybody goes I want to

1582
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 3: be a better person, I won't grow. Do you really

1583
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 3: want growth, baby, Because when it comes to growth, it's

1584
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 3: pain behind that growth, it's suffering behind that growth, it's

1585
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 3: tears behind that growth.

1586
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: Yes, you can get to the other.

1587
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 3: Side, but you got to go through the emotional process.

1588
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 3: And as human beings, we don't we truly don't want

1589
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 3: to grow.

1590
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 2: We don't want to.

1591
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,839
Speaker 1: Get better, and we don't want to enlighten ourselves.

1592
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: We just don't, you know.

1593
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 3: And that's why you have pushed back against gay marriage,

1594
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 3: that's why you have pushed back against abortion, because a

1595
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff has been stemmed down into people

1596
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,879
Speaker 3: and it's hard to break these cycles.

1597
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: It is not easy.

1598
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1599
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: And and for the I don't even know if it's

1600
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 2: that we don't want to grow, it's that people don't.

1601
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: Like you said, growing is pain, and people don't want

1602
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: to have pain. They don't want to be uncomfortable, and

1603
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: they don't want to change. So it's just easier to

1604
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: be like I'm gonna stick to the shit I was taught,

1605
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: you know, And yes, what you said exactly is very powerful,

1606
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: but I agree, you know, And I think with someone

1607
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: like Kevin Hard, when you listen to the interview, you

1608
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: can just see that he doesn't want to go back

1609
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: through all that and whatever it's worked out, as far

1610
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 2: as said, and whatever he's gone through is quote unquote

1611
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: behind him in his mind. So he's never going to examine,

1612
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: like why what does it mean to call something gay

1613
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: as a derogatory term and then turn around to say,

1614
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: but it's not homophobic? How's that possible? You know? And

1615
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 2: when he had his feelings hurt, he does an example,

1616
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: he talks about meeting Don Rickless, one of his heroes

1617
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: in comedy. Don Rickles roast people and stuff. He's an old,

1618
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: old comedian. He might be dead now, but he met

1619
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: when Kevin Hart met him, he called Kevin Hart a

1620
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: little monkey and Don Rickles an old white dude. And

1621
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,879
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart basically said, you know, that hurt his feelings,

1622
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: but he just went home. He didn't say anything about it.

1623
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: And the thing is for Kevin Hart that I think

1624
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: he can't make the connection is I think in his

1625
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: mind he was like, why can't people just do what

1626
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 2: I did? Just you didn't like it, go home, you

1627
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: offend it, whatever. But what I think Kevin hasn't truly

1628
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: internalized is why should what was funny about Don Rickles

1629
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: making him feel that way? And how do you think

1630
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: your words can't have that effect on people? And this

1631
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: is off This is something that often happens when it

1632
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: comes to sis head people and LGBT and queer people.

1633
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: Is this disconnect of like, well sis had black people

1634
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: and queer people, this disconnected like well, racially, I can

1635
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: be offended and I don't like that shit, you know,

1636
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: and everybody goes to Kramer. I think Kramer is extreme example.

1637
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: I use it all the time. But Roseanne Bar rose

1638
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: Ane Bar, she's on Twitter under the aspices of comedy.

1639
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: She causes woman a monkey. She's well within her comedian

1640
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: spear to say that none of us that I've met

1641
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: have any level of excuse acceptance, and we don't forgive

1642
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: her and we don't accept her apology. None of us

1643
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: haven't met a black person yet. That's like I accept

1644
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: I believe other than who was a monique. There's just

1645
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: not there's not a lot of people out there willing

1646
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 2: to give her that chance. Dal Hughley wanted her fired,

1647
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: and yet he told gay people, queer people, and trans

1648
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 2: people if they can't take these jokes, they some pussies.

1649
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 2: Imagine Roseanne being like, black people are pussies. You can't

1650
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: take these jokes while I'm a comedian. You picked the

1651
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 2: wrong one, motherfucker. But that's the ignorance that so many

1652
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: sis had Black men hide behind they when they are

1653
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 2: the one who is wrong. There's no fucking accountability. Like

1654
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: I said, we have these words now and you would

1655
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: come and now you turn yourself into the victim. You're

1656
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: not the fucking victim here, you know. So anyway that

1657
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: that Kevin hars shit just it was. It's a very

1658
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 2: eye opening interview Terry Girls. So at interviewing I I

1659
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: wish I could be I wish I could be as

1660
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: good like she's. I think some of the stuff that

1661
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: and not think. Kevin Hart is also just a bad

1662
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: example of people to interview because he's not He's trying

1663
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: so hard to not be a deep thinker. He actually

1664
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: makes the interview a little boring. But I think there's

1665
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 2: a lot of subtexts and I'm sure I'm implying a lot.

1666
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 2: But my biggest belief for Kevin Hart is that he's

1667
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: a very ambitious man and he is in his brand.

1668
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: Was injured, and more than anything else, he's hurt by that,

1669
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: and he's like, I just need to continue to stay

1670
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: on my goal to own everything, to make all the money,

1671
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: to be the biggest person in the world. That's it.

1672
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 2: And this is now slowed my progression of that down.

1673
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: And that's what he's mostly upset about. He's angry. I

1674
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: think I just couldn't help laughing when in one minute

1675
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 2: he told Terry about the jokes coming from real life situations.

1676
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: Yes to one about hitting his kid over the head

1677
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: with a with a for being gay. He said. Then

1678
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: when she asked him next, wlar the sentiment or the

1679
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 2: real life situation, he would say he fell back on

1680
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: it was just a joke. Yeah, it was crazy. It

1681
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 2: was it was really like talking to somebody like in

1682
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: therapy that was in de Now he's like, these situations

1683
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: are based on real life situations. It's just a joke.

1684
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: It's just a moment. And then she would be like, right,

1685
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: so it's based off reality. Yes, all jokes are based

1686
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: off reality. Okay, Well, it, Kevin, What like, what's real

1687
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: about this moment that you're saying you want to hit

1688
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: your kid over the head for being gay? And say

1689
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: in my voice, don't do that. That's gay. That's just

1690
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: that's just a moment. In reality, it's just a joke.

1691
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 2: It's just based off a moment, right, But what's real

1692
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: about the sentiment of you wanting to hit your kid?

1693
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: Even as a joke, it's just a joke. I'm like, God, damn,

1694
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 2: this nigga is good? Who he is good? You're never

1695
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: gonna cross the sam human when what.

1696
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: He's like, Nope, this is the point in the line,

1697
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: will not be cross, doubts shall not cross.

1698
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 2: It's over. It's just joke. It's over. Like, goddamn, niggah.

1699
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: He gonna continue to go back to I'm not talking

1700
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: about no more so, I'm off.

1701
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 3: I'm off that. So what I'm trying to say is

1702
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 3: it's over. I'm like, God damn, I do give him

1703
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 3: credit for that. He was like, what you're not gonna

1704
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 3: do is this?

1705
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: But it's so obviously not over correct anyway, he just

1706
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: fell back on there as a joke or the intent

1707
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: was to be funny. If it really all boils down

1708
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 2: to some niggas just ain't deep and for the reason

1709
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: that reason alone, he'd be wofully in that in any

1710
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: type of active eylorship. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, people don't.

1711
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 2: That's one of the most laughable parts about the about

1712
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: the Len interviewer. It's like, why would you want him

1713
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: for an ally? Y'all gotta stop with Kevin Hart. Like

1714
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart, A win with a Kevin Hart situation is

1715
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 2: to give him to stop talking about you. That's a win.

1716
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: It's like, Kevin Harky, you please just stop talking about us.

1717
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: Gave people please think you give us out your mouth.

1718
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 2: That's a win because you if he was a quote

1719
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 2: unquote ally, he's just gonna fuck something else up. Later

1720
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: for show one hundred percent, MS Monica says, I enjoyed

1721
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 2: this episode you both as thought provoking. It hilarious. I

1722
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 2: can't go a day without listening. Like Karen, I was

1723
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: initially taken aback by Terry Crew's commentary, but during Guess

1724
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: the Race, when I realized why the show was titled

1725
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 2: Officer Magic Stick, I was nearly into his laugh and

1726
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: I had to rethink that, you know what, I didn't

1727
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: do this on purpose, But you're absolutely right. I did

1728
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: adamantly back Terry Crews, maybe because he's famous and he

1729
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 2: bravely shared his story. It sounds like Officer Stick went

1730
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: through hell. But I laughed at him too, mm hm exactly.

1731
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: That was my whole point when I was talking to

1732
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 2: Karen about it, was like, we don't treat dudes that

1733
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: get sexually assaulted with the same like seriousness. And now

1734
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: this this case, this officer was not sexual assaulted, but

1735
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 2: he was harassed and stalk by this woman. And we

1736
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 2: were joking about it. You know, we were all you

1737
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: musn't had the magic jokes, right, So I can understand

1738
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: how a man who sexually assaulted thinks that he didn't

1739
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: know what the reception will be, because you really don't know.

1740
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: Afrodva says hi Rod and Karen, I've been listening to

1741
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: show and here and you go back and forth by

1742
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: Terry Crews saying he was surprised by black women supporting him.

1743
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: I think you misread what he said. He well, we

1744
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: didn't misread it. We misheard it. Okay, we played the clip.

1745
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm just messing with you. He wasn't saying he was

1746
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: surprised that we supported him. He was surprised that black

1747
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: Man didn't. He was expecting brothers to have his back

1748
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: then was shocked and probably hurt when they turned on

1749
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,480
Speaker 2: him instead. He thought they would be able to commiserate

1750
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 2: because he's not the only one that's happened to It

1751
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: was very impassionate discussing y'all had. But if you watch

1752
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: clip again, I think you'll catch it. Well, we just

1753
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: did watch the clip again. I pick up some of

1754
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: what you're laying down. I do feel that he was

1755
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: very hurt and injured by the lack of black male

1756
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: support from since had black Man. But the question was

1757
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: who was he surprised by? Who supported him? And he

1758
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 2: did answer that question. And then, like I said, I

1759
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 2: don't think he was saying specifically. I think if he

1760
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: would have been asked who did he appreciate, he would

1761
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: had the same answer. So I think it's the framing

1762
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: of the question. But you know, but yes, I picked

1763
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 2: it up more this time than last time, absolutely after

1764
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 2: reading your comments, so thank you for that. But I

1765
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 2: still do think part of it was that he was

1766
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 2: surprised how vhemently black women defending him, and that's okay,

1767
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 2: that's okay. You know, I'm just trying. It doesn't mean

1768
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: like it doesn't have to be a bad thing. That

1769
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: he was surprised. Hopefully he was. I'm sure he was

1770
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised, and also, like I said, at the same time,

1771
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: let down that his other people didn't have his back.

1772
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 3: Correct And I know for me when we had the conversation,

1773
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 3: for me, the reason why the conversation went on so

1774
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 3: long is because I was triggered. Like I know people

1775
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 3: don't like that word, but I was fucking trigger because

1776
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck? I don't understand why

1777
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 3: we fucking surprised. But at the same time I understand

1778
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 3: why because people are fickled and they knowing what it

1779
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 3: is and depend on who you are, and depend on

1780
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 3: if they like you or not, will depend on the response.

1781
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 3: And also I understand the thing is men don't have

1782
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 3: the right to demand we support them, you know, and

1783
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 3: once you get to that, it becomes a bigger thing.

1784
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 3: You know, we're black women. Some black women that go

1785
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 3: to support no matter what, but they are are black women.

1786
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 3: On certain shit, they tap out because they've had enough.

1787
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 3: So don't have the expectation that we're all going to

1788
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 3: always be there.

1789
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 2: And that's okay, too correct, Like I know people that

1790
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 2: get deeply offended that somebody. I can't remember who wrote it,

1791
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: and I don't want to say the wrong name, so

1792
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say. But I remember we read a

1793
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: piece on here about that woman that was like, I'm

1794
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 2: not marching for Eric Gardner or Auton Sterling, one of them.

1795
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it was autm Sterling, or maybe it was more

1796
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: than one woman that wrote a piece, but I know

1797
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 2: with Auton Sterling he had sexual assault of a young

1798
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: black girl in his past, and you know, and I

1799
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 2: don't know how popular the sentiment was, but there was

1800
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: a black woman that was like, I'm not not for

1801
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: this one, and you know, we talked about on the

1802
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: show at the time. I'm like, I don't really know

1803
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: where to place that because I don't want to condemn her,

1804
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: like I see people condemning her, like how dare you?

1805
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 2: But I'm also like I kind of can understand that

1806
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have that same energy for everybody. And

1807
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: I remember the question for the pole was like I

1808
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 2: think it was like if Stacy Dash got killed by

1809
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 2: the copse, are y'all marching or not?

1810
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 6: Right?

1811
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 2: And it wasn't no one hundred percent you know what

1812
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So I don't know you know, yeah, I understand.

1813
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 2: Classic Garvey Love says how roder Karen I had to

1814
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: mention the characters ran about Terry Crews, the black women

1815
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: in the Black women, and me who has been and

1816
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: continues to be crapped on in America with shouting damn straight.

1817
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: Let him know. Part of me who follows Terry Crews

1818
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: on Twitter because of his Brooklyn nine nine tweets, had

1819
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 2: to pull back in the typical situation, carrying you one

1820
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: hundred percent right to question why black women doing right,

1821
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 2: especially by those who don't do right. By surprise, Ray,

1822
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 2: You're also right regarding the factors that motivated cruise statement

1823
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 2: to that word of question. Terry has supposedly comment commented

1824
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 2: on his feed as a black man, a big black man,

1825
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 2: a former football player, his life has been steeped in

1826
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 2: manly manned them, which has taken the form of both

1827
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 2: genders expecting him to be unfeeling and to be able

1828
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 2: to handle anything. He's addressed moments where he has been

1829
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 2: shut down in the past for not fitting this mode,

1830
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: or on his Twitter feed when people sadly many black

1831
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 2: men attacked, it was black women who defended and comforted him,

1832
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 2: often bringing him to tears of the depth of their embrace.

1833
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 2: Cruisers come In commented how he had moments of doubt

1834
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: and support and that the private comments that went with them,

1835
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 2: which often detailed abuse, these black women that suffered let

1836
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 2: him let him know that he was standing in the

1837
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 2: right and keep and kept him going. Based on this,

1838
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: I took his surprise that I meant that I might

1839
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,799
Speaker 2: have side out different under different circumstances, to be surprised

1840
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 2: at how collectively black women he never met made him

1841
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: feel seen and validated in a way that people he

1842
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: knew had failed to do. That's how I took it

1843
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 2: to Sorry this so long, but I thought my outse

1844
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 2: siders aware that says Terry Crews follow on Twitter my help.

1845
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: It does for me, Karen, what do you think? Agreed? Yeah.

1846
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say too is and I

1847
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: don't know how to express this enough, and I'm sure

1848
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 2: black women feel it, and I can say it as

1849
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 2: experience as a black man, we are taught to not

1850
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 2: trust and to hate to abuse from a young age.

1851
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 2: As black men. It's a lifelong thing. And it's consistently

1852
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: reinforced and specifically against Black women. You know LGBTQ people

1853
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: as well, but there's a different level for sis had

1854
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 2: black men when it comes to Black women because we

1855
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: are still expected, we expect the loyalty and sex and

1856
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 2: childbearing and labor from Black women in a way. And

1857
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying whether it's better or worse. I think,

1858
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 2: you know, the things we expect from the LGBTQ community

1859
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 2: is actually really fucked up. It's just that black men.

1860
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: But the things we expect from women is that we're

1861
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 2: still gonna be in your proximity constantly. We're also demeaning

1862
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 2: you the entire time. And so when you have been

1863
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 2: taught not to trust somebody, or when you've been taught

1864
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 2: that this is essentially your enemy. This person wants to

1865
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 2: use you. Despite your mother and your sisters and your aunts,

1866
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 2: those people are all the quote quote exceptions, they're all

1867
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 2: special snowflakes alone. But the vast of Black women are

1868
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 2: out to get you somehow. That is the shit we

1869
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 2: are taught, and it was normally reinforced over and over.

1870
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: Soon as you become a boy of a certain age,

1871
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 2: it's don't you be getting these little girls, these fast

1872
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 2: girls pregnant. It's like the black women are the black

1873
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 2: girls are praying on you. That's not what happens in

1874
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 2: real life cologne. That's not how that actually goes. Black

1875
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 2: women black girls aren't like at fourteen sixteen going I

1876
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 2: can't wait to trap this sixteen year old what a

1877
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: baby and ruined his life. But we still talk. I

1878
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 2: know grown men who still talk like that. And that's

1879
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: not to say every no person like that. Please don't

1880
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: ride up here with your example of the nigga that

1881
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 2: got your I don't care. I know there's gotta be

1882
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 2: some examples of every single type of scope of everything

1883
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 2: in blackness, but in general, the shit we're todd it's

1884
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: very much into our black woman shit. So for him

1885
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: to basically find out it's all bullshit and it's all

1886
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 2: a lie at the same time, you know, while also

1887
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 2: being betrayed by his own brothers who have all held

1888
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 2: him up on this pedestal, it's all my man, but

1889
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: Terry Crews and they and they go, ha, you got

1890
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 2: sexual assaulted, ha ha. You know I guarantee Terry Crews

1891
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: setting rooms where they made fun of men that have

1892
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 2: gotten sexual assaulted. I guarantee you setting rooms where they

1893
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 2: made fun of women that got sexual assaulted or with

1894
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 2: dudes that do not sexual assault, especially if he's coming

1895
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 2: from the NFL. You know, I guarantee he has. You know,

1896
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 2: it's it's it's carte blanche of what we call manhood,

1897
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 2: and especially for black man, it's hyper masculinity. That's even

1898
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 2: worse when it's this, you know, uh, some of these things.

1899
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, I absolutely can see how this reckoning

1900
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 2: flipped his entire worldview. You know, so who knows what

1901
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: else you went through privately and all that stuff, but publicly,

1902
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: I guarantee you it fucking it fucked him up, you know.

1903
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Speaker 2: So uh and like and like I said, it's even

1904
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: more fucked up because, uh, we're not really taught to

1905
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 2: be this way with any other women other than our own.

1906
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 2: That's that's the even more fucked up part.

1907
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Speaker 3: That's why you can have compassion for white women and

1908
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 3: all these other women, right, that's why you call them

1909
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, their anger is quote unquote spicing this.

1910
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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be funnybody anyone that's not a

1911
01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: black woman. We are taught that it's different for them, right, meanwhile,

1912
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 2: who the fuck calling the cops on us? You know,

1913
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 2: just stupid. It's stupid shit that people say, but most

1914
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 2: men aren't aren't thinking it far that that through that

1915
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 2: they're not thinking that far through. They're just like, yeah,

1916
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 2: these black bitches, right haha, and that's it, and you

1917
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: can go your whole life like that, your whole life.

1918
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 2: A lot of niggas, do you know. And I know

1919
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Speaker 2: it's the lowest of bars and the barrass of minimums. God,

1920
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Speaker 2: you know, I get it. But that's why when you

1921
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 2: see somebody like a jay z It laid in his age,

1922
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: be like, this is all bullshit, guys, I'm just like,

1923
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Speaker 2: good more please, Terry Crews, thank you, Like John Legend,

1924
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 2: appreciate you, like, get out here and start talking, because

1925
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 2: guys like that normally stay silent and they feel like

1926
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: these things are wrong and it's kind of fucked up

1927
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 2: what these guys are saying. But you just don't say

1928
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: nothing back. But you got a voice too, you got

1929
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 2: an obligation to use it. You know, you gotta get

1930
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 2: out here and be like, but I disagree, because if

1931
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Speaker 2: not everyone in the room assumes the tenor of the

1932
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 2: room is the tenor of the room, right. You know,

1933
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 2: there may be people that are in voting when they

1934
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: hear you being like, that's bullshit. Don't talk about our

1935
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: sisters like that. You know that it may be you know,

1936
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 2: and I and the thing with black women loving us

1937
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: is so fucking unrequited that you know, you can expect

1938
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 2: it and become what do you call it, not depending

1939
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 2: on it but complacent. I guess I don't know, like

1940
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 2: you expect them to like do this labor for me. Hey,

1941
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 2: something bad happened to me. Now, pick me up, make

1942
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: me feel like a man again. Fix me, fix me,

1943
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 2: fix me like that.

1944
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of it is.

1945
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, and it's you know, and the

1946
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 3: thing is a lot of women, and to an extent,

1947
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 3: I understand, particularly older women are like nigga, we all grown.

1948
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 3: I'm not fixing a fucking grown ass man. Go get therapy,

1949
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 3: do whatever you got to do. Make yourself whole. Because

1950
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 3: I was required to be whole at a really early age.

1951
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 3: I all my years, I was required to grow up.

1952
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 3: I was required to go through the emotional baggage. I

1953
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 3: was required to be challenged, like, you know, I can't

1954
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 3: be out here emotionally breaking down. I was never allowed to,

1955
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 3: you know, and now my forties and fifties, Yeah, I'll

1956
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 3: be with you, but nigga, I'm not gonna raise a

1957
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 3: grown man a grown man, a grown man with child stunned,

1958
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: but you know, emotionally grow up.

1959
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then there's also just the fact that that

1960
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of black women who will do that labor,

1961
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 2: regardless of it being thankless. Right, so we will still

1962
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 2: get our wing held and hop right back out there

1963
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: and be like, fuck, these black women am right. Anonymous says,

1964
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 2: it's a man who was also sexually assaulted, like Terry Crews.

1965
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 2: I totally understand where he's coming from. I think he

1966
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 2: was traumatized by the whole incident and felt isolated like

1967
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 2: anybody else would, and I think you have to take

1968
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 2: that into account. Hell, the reason I'm writing this anonymously

1969
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,919
Speaker 2: is because I'm scared of telling everybody I was assaulted.

1970
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: But it's, like I said, it's that's that's a real feeling.

1971
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 2: And I think when it comes to men, we can't

1972
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 2: take it for granted. Like, nah, it's people will support

1973
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 2: you you're a man. It's like, that's not really true.

1974
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 2: People support sexual assault, rape culture is rape culture, no

1975
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 2: matter who is happening to. No, there's no perfect victim.

1976
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 2: You know, if they will find a way to discredit

1977
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 2: you as well, because if not, then they gotta deal

1978
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:25,799
Speaker 2: with the fact that this is a RAPEI ass society. Anyway,

1979
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that happened to you, and I'm sorry you

1980
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 2: feel that you know that need to be anonymous like that,

1981
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: but I also understand it.

1982
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 3: Okay, now it's Kevin Hard really done talking about not

1983
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 3: hosting the Oscars.

1984
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 2: Yes he's over it. No, he's still not over it.

1985
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 2: Can No four said people say he is over it.

1986
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 2: Ninety six say he is not over it. Lakita says,

1987
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 2: I can't with Kevin. I went from side eye him

1988
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 2: to full on disliking him. And it didn't have to

1989
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: be this way, didn't it.

1990
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 3: Right, CT says, the fact that you even had to

1991
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 3: ask again to tell you enough Kevin Hard exhausted me

1992
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 3: and Lakita you absolutely right, it didn't have to be

1993
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 3: this way. Child.

1994
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad, man. He really made it to where

1995
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, I see his name in the movie discussion,

1996
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if I want to watch that. Right, Like,

1997
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,560
Speaker 2: he done went from like, oh no, I watched the

1998
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 2: Magia's first one's funny.

1999
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 3: Though I don't really Watchflix.

2000
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 2: I really need to see I want how good could

2001
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 2: it be?

2002
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 6: You know?

2003
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Like right, he that's terrible anyway. Comments for episode eighteen

2004
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 2: twenty four, Hamburger in Chief True Note says I really

2005
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: got nothing about this episode. The show art is why

2006
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm here. It's perfect. I bust out laughing when I

2007
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: saw it this morning, and I've been laughing to myself

2008
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 2: most of the day when I think about it. Mike says,

2009
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 2: I got a salute rod for starting to show it.

2010
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 2: That jay Z Verse Squeeze First. It's my go to

2011
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 2: song when I discuss JB and the Goat. I'm only

2012
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 2: four minutes to this episode, but i already know it's

2013
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 2: gonna be great. Peace, Thank you, Thank you. See. Trey

2014
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 2: says Trump really thought he was doing something going to

2015
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 2: all these fast food places setting up Burger buffet. Does

2016
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 2: he not understand catering setting up a whole fast food

2017
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 2: with no heat lamps, all that food sitting there luke

2018
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 2: warm where they had the candlelight, and they probably did.

2019
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 2: They probably didn't get them any sodas. These players didn't

2020
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 2: drunk water.

2021
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 3: These players didn't risk all those injuries for free to

2022
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 3: roll up at the White House and get service some

2023
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 3: ship they could have got at the bus outside Chapel Hill.

2024
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 3: Trump is a dumb ass, cheap skate who doesn't know

2025
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 3: what he probably could have gone to. He probably could

2026
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 3: have gone to any of the restaurants in the center

2027
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 3: of DC and gotten a racket barbecue slide side for

2028
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 3: about the same as he got a thousand burgers from

2029
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 3: three different chains. Hell, he could have gone to bow

2030
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 3: Jangles at Union Station and got ten of those game

2031
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 3: day boxes.

2032
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Fuck out of here. Come on least they came with

2033
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 2: ice tea right terrible? Oh man, let's go to the

2034
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 2: next one. All right, River City Girl says, when y'allre

2035
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 2: talking about how terrible Trump is been since forever, I

2036
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: once again almost cried. I missed President Obama and his

2037
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 2: whole family. Every time I hear about some trumpery. I

2038
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 2: think President o'ba could slash would never they would have

2039
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 2: ran him out with pitch for us. I just saw

2040
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 2: a clep of Trump responded to a reporter who asked

2041
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: about the government employees.

2042
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 3: Who are not being paid, and he said that they

2043
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,719
Speaker 3: would have to adjust. Fuck you mean adjust.

2044
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Niggas got bills to pay and that direct depositive amounts

2045
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 2: shows zero pay. This is America shaking my head. Obama forever. Yep.

2046
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 2: It's so funny. Everybody that was an Obama detractor in

2047
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 2: their own way has solidify his place as, if not

2048
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 2: the greatest, one of the greatest presidents in the United

2049
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 2: States history by following him up with one of the worst.

2050
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 2: It's really uncanny. I could have predicted it and written

2051
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 2: it down. It's funny. If they would have elected Hillary,

2052
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 2: I think you would have saw like people being more

2053
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 2: having more levity with his legacy. You know, not that

2054
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 2: I don't think it was great. I still think he

2055
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 2: was learning the greatest presidents. I didn't need nobody else

2056
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 2: to tell me, and I didn't need to see Trump

2057
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 2: to solidify it. But a lot of people need it

2058
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 2: to apparently, because every day he's in some more shit

2059
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 2: than people told us. Obama didn't do, SAYU says the

2060
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 2: title and the show artist spot owned. I also wanted

2061
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 2: to add to this conversation on the Hamburgler and Chief

2062
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 2: on how strikingly unqualified he is on all levels. How

2063
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 2: did he think it was okay to feed d one

2064
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 2: athletes fast food. Maybe this was just my assumption, but

2065
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 2: this felt extra out of touch with reality. These young

2066
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 2: people have nutrition in this back at their school because

2067
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 2: they don't regularly eat fast food or to perform at

2068
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 2: the level that they play at. In general, they deserve

2069
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 2: to be treated so much better. He keeps adding insult

2070
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 2: to injury. I appreciated y'all's brief, yet point of conversation

2071
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,560
Speaker 2: on this ass at. Trump keeps proving how unqualified he

2072
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 2: is on every fast of a job, but his supporters

2073
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 2: do not care. It really will take a collective action

2074
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 2: against the numb being apathy to make sure if he's

2075
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 2: not in jail for twenty twenty not to get this

2076
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 2: ass hat reelected. Yeah, it's funny because we don't really

2077
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 2: talk about Trump that much on this show because, you know,

2078
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: because he's so insulting. Right, Casey Cologne says, I to

2079
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 2: think that someone would do something special or important enough

2080
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 2: to make it to the White House and they get

2081
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: there and are fed McDonald's and what it was once,

2082
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 2: which is often the once in a lifetime opportunity for

2083
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 2: most it's worse than a slap in the face. It's

2084
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: a goddamn shame and embarrassment, right, it really is trash.

2085
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 2: The poll is which is better bromances, romances or wholemances.

2086
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: Care I'm gonna say wholemances.

2087
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 2: Well you and most of the audience agreed. Fifty eight

2088
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 2: percent say hole mances. It's funny how after the show

2089
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 2: I thought of that because I said, we have romances,

2090
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 2: we have romances. How come we don't have a thing

2091
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 2: when women our friends? It's just friendship. But I think

2092
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 2: we need to start calling them home maances. Okay, it's

2093
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 2: pro ho not it's not a distant host. This is

2094
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: a pro hole. So I think whole mances could work. Okay,

2095
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 2: And whole mances probably are much more fruitful than either

2096
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 2: bromances or romances come on, much.

2097
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 1: More fruitful, I bet you everybody in them groups a

2098
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 1: lot happier.

2099
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 3: Hole man is probably so much more a lot of twerking.

2100
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 3: That's what that CARDIV video is.

2101
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 2: It's just a whole mass, a whole mass homance.

2102
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 3: It was whole manson on the yacht. And you know what,

2103
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 3: everyone looked happy. No niggas they was happy.

2104
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 2: Yep, no niggas was over there fucking anything up. Try

2105
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 2: to grab some ass trying to distract from the twerking

2106
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 2: like they just had a big ass whole manswery right

2107
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 2: there on the yacht.

2108
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 3: Come on, obviously, hole mans is the only correct answer,

2109
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 3: said CT. Yeah, Romance has only got five percent of

2110
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 3: the vote.

2111
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 2: Good for you only five percent? And Romances got thirty

2112
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 2: seven percent. Good for you, dude. Yeah, And the last

2113
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 2: episode of the week was to cash a creditor.

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Speaker 3: Uh, let me see, we got three comments, all right, Ever,

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01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 3: least seventy seven says Hey, Rod and Karen.

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Speaker 2: Wow, thank you so much for discussing narcissism in this episode.

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01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 2: My son's father is a narcissist in my life, and

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01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 2: I had to learn over time how to deal with him.

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01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 2: While I was still in a relationship with him, I

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01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 2: had no idea that people could behave like this. He

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01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: was mean for no reason, gaslighted me when he felt

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01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,679
Speaker 2: like it be nice to me sometimes. The roller coaster

2123
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 2: of emotions was making me think I was losing my mind.

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01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 2: He did all this while I'm trying to care for

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01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 2: our new baby. The stress was unbelievable. It wasn't until

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01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 2: I was discussing with him with a friend years after

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01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,560
Speaker 2: the relationship ended that I realized I was dealing with

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01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,879
Speaker 2: a narcissist. You discussing this will truly help someone realize,

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01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 2: recognize what they're dealing with a narcissist, and hopefully get

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01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 2: away from them. Come on, I wish I knew what

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01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 2: I know now. Obviously I still have to cope in

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01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 2: with that food sometimes, but I just either ignored his

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01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 2: bullshit or treat him like he's a comedian and laugh

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01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 2: at him. He hates that shit, enjoyed the rest of

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01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: your day. I feel you everly, and I'm sorry sorry

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01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 2: that happened, but yeah, I'm glad. Like I said, I

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01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 2: hope people was informed by what we was talking about.

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01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 2: Maybe it helped somebody else. Regarding the Gillette ad, Riverirl,

2139
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 2: River City Girl says, I will never understand the vitriol

2140
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 2: that follows when an ad comes out that challenges people

2141
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: to not be trashed. The overwhelming response has been very

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01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 2: defensive and adamant that they should continue to remain dreadful

2143
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 2: and pass that on to the next generation of young men.

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01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,839
Speaker 2: A reasonable response from society could be the feel encouraged

2145
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 2: not to raise a misogynists in cells, sexual predator, et cetera.

2146
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me how people reacted to Michelle Obama.

2147
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 2: She tried to encourage healthy eating habits.

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01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 3: Right, it was like, fuck it, my kids will be

2149
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 3: fat and have high potension and all this shit.

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01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: Fuck you, man, what is she actually trying to get

2151
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 1: your kids to live longer?

2152
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 2: As for yeah, it's for the response, man, I mostly

2153
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 2: seen the same usual suspects, like I could have. If

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01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 2: I could have, I almost could have wrote you a

2155
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 2: list of who the fuck I expected to be upset

2156
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 2: by the ad and it would have been the same. Yeah.

2157
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, Pierce Morgan, no, okay, Michelle Markin,

2158
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh she's not a fan, okay, all right. Even he says,

2159
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 2: I wonder if Sean King sewing people has something to

2160
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 2: do with the fact that the murder of Jasmine Barnes

2161
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 2: turned out to not be the man he blasted all

2162
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 2: over his social media a couple of weeks ago. He

2163
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 2: played he placed an actual picture of a man who

2164
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 2: matched the police sketch with the man's name and blasted

2165
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 2: it to his millions of followers. And the man, I

2166
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: think he don't has he has millions of followers. Wow,

2167
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 2: that's crazy. And the man and his family were getting

2168
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: death threats. While he deleted the tweet after the fact,

2169
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 2: there was never a statement of attraction or apology. What So,

2170
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 2: maybe he's suddenly sewing people distract from his mistake. That

2171
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: sounds kind of narcissistic. Yeah, listen, him sewing people has

2172
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 2: gone so badly for him in the past. However, many

2173
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 2: days since we did this show, like literally could not

2174
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 2: imagine it going worse for a person like I was

2175
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 2: wondering how he was gonna play this, if he was

2176
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 2: gonna be end up suing like bright Bar Fox News,

2177
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,639
Speaker 2: the people that started these some of these rumors about

2178
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 2: either his race or his work, I don't know. And

2179
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 2: if for a man that goes on social media and

2180
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 2: often jumps in and starts trying to like hunt down

2181
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 2: these people that do racist shit, and sometimes he is wrong,

2182
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 2: sometimes he you know, it's a fine line though, because

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01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, people be like believe black women

2184
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 2: and shit. But then if he believed the wrong one,

2185
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 2: they'd be like, I can't believe you believed her. So like,

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01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,879
Speaker 2: he has had a couple of cases where he believed

2187
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 2: somebody and either they got turned out they were lying

2188
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 2: or they had the wrong suspect or something like that.

2189
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 2: But even in those cases, I wonder how he isn't

2190
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 2: being sued for using his Twitter in a way that

2191
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: you know, was you know, targeting people that you know

2192
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 2: in a very wrong way. But I don't know what

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01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 2: the rules are for this shit. Like I told just

2194
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 2: all the wild wild West of me is, I just

2195
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 2: feel like mostly he and uh, he's getting bad advice

2196
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 2: or bad counsel or not listening to good counsel, because

2197
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 2: I would have told him not to do this straight up.

2198
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 2: It's not worth it. What you're gonna do, you're not

2199
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 2: gonna change nobody's mind. Dog.

2200
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 3: This is why it's paid to have real, live function

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01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 3: and friends. Like I'm like real friends like ring ring Ring, Nigga, nigga, nigga,

2202
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 3: niggag what you're doing.

2203
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 2: And I absolutely understand the impost. I want to fight

2204
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 2: some shit when you feel that it's unfair or that

2205
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 2: it's a lie or something being said. I have been

2206
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 2: never before, you know, I've been there before where I

2207
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 2: was like I want to fucking take this person down,

2208
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 2: you know, And and I just thank god, I am

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01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,679
Speaker 2: very fortunate to have people around me that have cooler

2210
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 2: heads that also go, well, this is what it's gonna

2211
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 2: look like. You know, it's gonna look like you're using

2212
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 2: your big platform to pick on this person, or it's

2213
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 2: gonna or that that person is not gonna come back

2214
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 2: and be like, you know what, I was wrong for

2215
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 2: that shit and I shouldn't have said that because I

2216
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: actually don't have the proof to back that up. They're

2217
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 2: never gonna do it. You can't be a liar even

2218
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 2: with the truth. You just gotta The only way is

2219
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 2: to go about your life living it with integrity and

2220
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 2: honesty and authenticity. And you know what, real, the real.

2221
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 2: The people will see through it. People will see thought.

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01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 2: I've had people say some really fucked up shit about

2223
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: me in the past. Well, I'm like, it's infuriating because

2224
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 2: you're like, that's so not true. It's actually making me mad.

2225
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:37,719
Speaker 2: But that's the point. They want you to be mad.

2226
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 2: And the worst thing he could have done is let

2227
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 2: them know that they got to him, correct because now

2228
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 2: everybody know it bothers him in a way that some

2229
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: of us didn't know before. And also it's the strissa

2230
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 2: in effect, a lot of people didn't know about these accusations.

2231
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 2: But you use your platform to attack these folks, and

2232
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,600
Speaker 2: all you did was give a lot of these people publicity.

2233
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 2: People that for tweetstay you aren't getting no traction. Nobody

2234
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: was retweeting them shits they were months old. It's just

2235
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 2: it's bad. As wife rote the piece, it's bad. It's real, real.

2236
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 2: I can't imagine a worse pr move than what he did.

2237
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 2: And like I said, I say that with no animosity.

2238
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 2: I'm not one of these people that jumps in his

2239
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: shit and talks about how shady and fucked up he is,

2240
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 2: or you know, he'd be stealing. I don't even do

2241
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 2: that type of shit because I literally don't notice Nick

2242
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 2: never work with him. The people that do work with

2243
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 2: him seem to have a pattern of misgivings about this dude.

2244
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 2: In a lot of cases, not every case, but in

2245
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 2: a lot of cases enough cases that I'm aware of it.

2246
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't get that dude my money, and I never have,

2247
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: you know. But all that being said, like, bruh, you

2248
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 2: were winning, like you had thousands, like eighty nine thousand people.

2249
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 2: I think they donated to that his new thing, the

2250
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 2: North Star. Bruh, if you were winning, you already beat

2251
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 2: your haters quote unquote, If you are lying, you already

2252
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,640
Speaker 2: the lies worked. If you're telling the truth, then the

2253
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 2: truth already worked. What you can't get one hundred percent

2254
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 2: of anything not on the internet, There's always gonna be

2255
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 2: somebody with either nothing to lose or that just don't

2256
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 2: like you, or they jealous, or they or literally they

2257
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 2: have a truthful, rightful grievance against you. It doesn't even

2258
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 2: matter what the category is. Someone always will not be

2259
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 2: happy with you. I'm not a tenth as famous. I'm

2260
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 2: not a one percent as famous as Sean King, and

2261
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 2: I know that shit, you know what I mean. I

2262
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 2: ain't nobody and I know that shit. I'm like, you

2263
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 2: can't get all these niggas on the same page.

2264
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 3: You know.

2265
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 2: I love our Facebook group because I don't want to

2266
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 2: see the hunt. Like it ain't gonna be one hundred

2267
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:55,560
Speaker 2: percent and I don't even need to see it. I

2268
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 2: believe you got it, you know what I mean? Go

2269
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 2: in that talk to shit. I get you what the

2270
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 2: fuck I'm gonna say? You know, I listened to shit.

2271
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 2: I talk my shit. I don't want Caver Heart listen

2272
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 2: to this podcast. I hope he not, you know, like

2273
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: like like I'm not My goal is to go out

2274
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 2: into the world to injure people. I've just given my opinion.

2275
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 2: You know, when people get entitled to get that opinion

2276
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 2: on you.

2277
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 3: Now, like I said, the things that they said that

2278
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 3: may be factually unprovable, or he may actually be able

2279
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 3: to prove that they're lying.

2280
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 2: That does kind of set you up on some on

2281
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 2: some weird like I don't know the rules on that.

2282
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 2: I've seen lawyers talk about it and whatever, y'all say,

2283
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 2: whatever I think. If I was talking to those people,

2284
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 2: i'd also tell them to drop it because it already

2285
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 2: worked and it don't matter. But it's Twitter, and motherfuckers

2286
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: think they get paid and retweets and likes, So you go,

2287
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 2: they doing threads and.

2288
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 1: Nobody told me.

2289
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's starting to gofund me for none of these

2290
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 2: motherfuckers yet, so good luck. If it goes to court,

2291
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 2: maybe they'll start something. But I personally would not waste

2292
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 2: the time arguing with this dude. Real talk, it's not

2293
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 2: worth it. He's not worth it, m like. And so

2294
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 2: there's this other part of the tude that people ain't

2295
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 2: talking about all y'all. Motherfucker's been talking about him for

2296
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 2: all this time, and y'all still ain't took him down.

2297
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 2: Y'all not gonna take him down that way. He's gonna

2298
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 2: take itself down if he's really the kind of person

2299
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 2: you say he is. It's the only way. The only

2300
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 2: thing you're gonna get is a pad on the back

2301
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 2: for being right in the first place. But he continues

2302
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 2: to cook. And I kept seeing the people in his

2303
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 2: mentions and they supporting them. They don't even care how

2304
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 2: this shit look. I'm on the outside, like this shit

2305
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 2: look bad to me. It's getting worse. You know, I

2306
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 2: understand why you felt that way, you know, because essentially

2307
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 2: the other thing people not talking about is he was

2308
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 2: attacked from right wing people first, so at least at

2309
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 2: least publicly that the most of the public is aware of.

2310
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: Right it's Bright Bar, it's Fox News, it's Piers Morgan,

2311
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's the Daily Mail. It's all these

2312
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 2: people that were like really going in on like he

2313
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 2: ain't really black. A lot of people picked that up

2314
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 2: from those the Daily Caller people. So it's much like

2315
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 2: a lot of politics that really woke leftist people be

2316
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 2: sidling a lot like them conservative racist people. You know,

2317
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 2: if I was going to attack that man's credibility. It

2318
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't be on the basis of he's not a black person,

2319
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 2: but a lot of people are gonna stoop for the

2320
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 2: lowest common denominator. But just look at his business practices,

2321
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 2: look at his partnerships, look at the people left in

2322
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: his wake and what they say about him. Look at that.

2323
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 2: But if you just want to call him to chalka

2324
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 2: or taco X, I mean, I get the humor in it.

2325
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna not last. But that's like the same

2326
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 2: shit that those white folks were saying about him, you know.

2327
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 2: I guess it's like sometimes we agree with the tea party.

2328
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how y'all work that one out in

2329
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 2: your mind, but for me, I try not to get

2330
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 2: too much into that. I just think that he has

2331
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 2: really made himself look really bad over the last few days,

2332
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 2: and it's everything. It makes everything that people have said

2333
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 2: about him look true, and it's the strike saying effect.

2334
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 2: I can't believe he handled it this bad. Speaking of narcissists,

2335
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 2: I've dealt with a few narcists in my life A

2336
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 2: day that one. Have had a couple so called friends

2337
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 2: who are and I'm the kind of person to bend

2338
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 2: over backwards for a friend and someone I care about.

2339
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 2: And the one thing a narcissist loves to do is

2340
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 2: withhold affection to manipulate you into doing what they want

2341
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 2: you to do. Each time when I react reached the

2342
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 2: breakings point, they would gaslight me and make it seem

2343
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 2: like I was the problem.

2344
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 3: Nigga.

2345
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 2: Yes, when I realized that I could do no right

2346
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 2: with that person, I stopped dealing with them. Come on

2347
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 2: and being at that black and call, And that's when

2348
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 2: this smell campaign began. I'm about to start praise dancing.

2349
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 2: That's the hardest to get through. But when you realize

2350
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 2: that they can no longer affect you, that's when they

2351
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 2: move on to the next person. Terrorized, right, yep, that

2352
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 2: bruh who aut this eve child? Listen drinks on me

2353
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 2: And unfortunately this whole country is currently dealing with a narcissist.

2354
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 2: It is so triggering us. There's not much we can

2355
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 2: do about it. Right. I think that you let commercial

2356
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 2: controversy happen because Piers Morgan and James would tweet about it.

2357
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 2: Those two are balls on the ASD society, just a

2358
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 2: couple of supertrolls. The troll followers. You just can't take

2359
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 2: those two seriously. Yeah, that's why I refuse to have

2360
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 2: a serious conversation based off of that shit. Like, I

2361
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 2: get it that that terrible, but they were terrible before that.

2362
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 2: Add and y'all not about to have me out here

2363
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 2: and they mentioned over that shit. Have you ever dealt

2364
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 2: with a narcissist?

2365
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 6: Yes?

2366
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 2: Online only, yes in real life? And no, not yet?

2367
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 3: And of course I am the narcissist? Why are you

2368
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 3: talking about me on your little podcasts? Care online and

2369
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 3: in real life?

2370
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 2: Okay? Eighty percent say yes in real life, two percent

2371
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 2: say online, only five percent say not yet. Good luck,

2372
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 2: good luck out there. I hope you're making your whole life.

2373
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 2: And thirteen percent say I am the narcissist? Why are

2374
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: you talking about me on your little podcasts? Blue Way

2375
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 2: Rider says, does the Shaun King beef we.

2376
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: Need to watch out for y'all?

2377
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Thirteen percent Blueey Rider says, does Shaun King beef ultimately

2378
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 2: hurt black activism? He's going after two gay people, one

2379
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 2: of them a college shit. I think it's three people,

2380
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 2: two of them one of them women, one of them gay,

2381
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 2: A gay dude. If I'm not mistake. Two of them

2382
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 2: are women. One of them is a gay dude. I

2383
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 2: don't know about. I don't know if it hurts activism

2384
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 2: in general, I don't know. That may be others. It

2385
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 2: certainly seems like smoke always follows him. He don't hear

2386
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 2: no shit. You don't hear no shit about the ray.

2387
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 2: Actually you do, mm hmm, Actually you.

2388
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 1: Do all of them.

2389
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 3: Like a lot of people realize, anybody that's the activist

2390
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 3: can tell you at some point in time because it's

2391
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 3: a very thankless job. So people would just expect you

2392
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 3: to get out there, put your labor and your work

2393
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 3: out there for free, and you could be doing your best.

2394
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: Not harming nobody.

2395
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 3: But somebody is gonna have a problem with the decision

2396
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 3: that you made, and they gonna talk about it about you.

2397
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 3: Be it jealousy, be it they don't like you, or

2398
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. Blind to you, everybody, everybody.

2399
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 3: You might not have heard it, but yeah, it's not

2400
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 3: that dog.

2401
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I was gonna say. So thank you

2402
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:18,520
Speaker 2: caring all these motherfuckers. Like I'm cool with these people too,

2403
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 2: some of them, but it's not a single one of them.

2404
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,640
Speaker 2: I haven't heard some shit about all of them. So

2405
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 2: one of the things that I really like, I don't

2406
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 2: call myself an activist, and I'm not an activist, and

2407
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 2: I never wanted the title an activist because the shit

2408
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 2: that they go through is thankless. I don't yes, I

2409
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:40,320
Speaker 2: don't know why anyone would do that, And if if

2410
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 2: you're doing it for bullshit ego reasons, it'll come to

2411
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 2: like if you're not doing I mean, I guess you

2412
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 2: kind of have to have an ego to be an

2413
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 2: activist in the first fucking place. You have to feel

2414
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 2: you're important enough to change the discussion in America, to

2415
02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 2: bring light to some shit. So I guess it's all,

2416
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 2: But it looks activists have problems too. And then the

2417
02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 2: main thing I've noticed too is they paranoid as fuck,

2418
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 2: you know, in general, and I mean rightfully, so you

2419
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:09,760
Speaker 2: would be paranoid too if you stood up for something

2420
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 2: you believe in. The motherfucker's thought, I'm gonna kill you,

2421
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 2: or I'm gonna tell you where your address is, I'm

2422
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 2: gonna dox you, or I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna

2423
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 2: put you on off your phone. Huh right, I'm gonna

2424
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 2: put you on a watch list. Like it's all it's

2425
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 2: all designed to make them paranoid and kind of fucked

2426
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 2: up and crazy to be around. And you know, I

2427
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 2: to me, it's like I don't come from that. I'm

2428
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 2: not trying to deal with the consequence of that ship,

2429
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 2: to be honest with y'all. And I also don't even

2430
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 2: really see the points sometimes because it's like, you know,

2431
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 2: you still do all that shit, and you got people

2432
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 2: out here calling you fucking like the fairs or you

2433
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,960
Speaker 2: yeah coon, or they disagree with the way you did

2434
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 2: some ship and now you ain't black enough for you

2435
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 2: too black? Or like, what's the fucking point offer some

2436
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,320
Speaker 2: thankless as bullshit. Mostly you ain't ever gonna get paid,

2437
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like if you do get paid,

2438
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,320
Speaker 2: they gonna use it against you. It's nothing you can

2439
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 2: fucking do, Like it's so thankless. I would never do

2440
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 2: some shit like that. And and that's and that's also

2441
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:18,280
Speaker 2: like and that's and every activist ain't a good person.

2442
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 2: You know, some bad people doing some quote unquote good

2443
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:23,640
Speaker 2: work and people like them because of their work. But

2444
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 2: they can hide their narcissism and their fucking ego mania

2445
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 2: and social uh sociopathy. They can hide it behind these

2446
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 2: causes so that if you say something to them, then

2447
02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 2: you become antie that cause it's it's all some ship.

2448
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with correct uh. Any thoughts

2449
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:43,840
Speaker 2: on Tamika Marie fair Kind of the Women's March, I

2450
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:46,560
Speaker 2: actually say that article. We'll talk about that, But my

2451
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 2: short on that is, I don't know why these niggas

2452
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 2: keep trying to make this case. It's not gonna work.

2453
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 2: The bigger goal is to get this unified front of

2454
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 2: supporting money and ship. You ain't doing nothing but a

2455
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:03,240
Speaker 2: road in it because fair Kind not here for all

2456
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 2: of us. And you're dismissing that because that's what white

2457
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 2: people do, what they Republican conservative people. To me, that's

2458
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 2: no better. That's why I don't fuck with the Republicans.

2459
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 2: That's why I don't fuck with certain Democrats. I don't

2460
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,320
Speaker 2: fuck with certain people because they always making some excuse

2461
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 2: for somebody that's even more fucked up, Like so why

2462
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 2: would we want to adopt what they do? That's their tactic,

2463
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 2: and that's what we keep going back to. So so

2464
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 2: John mccain't can be friends with Billy Graham's like that

2465
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:32,640
Speaker 2: should not be a thing. And we shouldn't be trying

2466
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 2: to replicate it on our side. Will he do some

2467
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 2: good things, yes, And he also thinks fucking gay people

2468
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:40,960
Speaker 2: going to hell and women belong in the fucking kitchen. No,

2469
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 2: it's okay, it's okay to be like that's we don't

2470
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 2: have to uphold that. It's hard to be progressive when

2471
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:51,600
Speaker 2: you're trying to just mimic what the fuck conservatives do.

2472
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:55,120
Speaker 2: That's my personal opinion. Obviously she can do whatever the

2473
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 2: fuck you wanna do. She gonna kind of make that case,

2474
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 2: and a lot of them I think fucked up because

2475
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 2: the first thing they did what Obama was making about

2476
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 2: he look how he betrayed Reverend Right. And it's like

2477
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 2: he wouldn't be president if he did what y'all said

2478
02:04:06,640 --> 02:04:08,880
Speaker 2: he need to do with that Reverend Right, end of

2479
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 2: the day. Bottom line. So what you wanted him to

2480
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 2: do is basically not become president, and that's fine, but

2481
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 2: he wanted to be president that I wouldn't be surprised

2482
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 2: if the fucking Obama's and Reverend Right sat in the

2483
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 2: living room and drank tea and said this is what

2484
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 2: we gotta do about this, And Reverend Wright said, I

2485
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 2: understand I wouldn't be surprised. I would because it's just

2486
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 2: that it was that fucking plain to everybody else, but

2487
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 2: the people that wanted to have the purity tests, like,

2488
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:36,120
Speaker 2: you can't do that, okay, cool, Well now you see

2489
02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 2: what happens when you don't do that, you lose the

2490
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:41,920
Speaker 2: support people being like fuck canceled the Women's March and

2491
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 2: they canceled it. They canceled it like that's that good will?

2492
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 2: And all those people they had out there, what could

2493
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,160
Speaker 2: have been done, registering people to vote, all that shit done.

2494
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 3: Just like that.

2495
02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know what's canceled?

2496
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they canceled it like people pulling out all kinds

2497
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 2: of shit. It's crazy. So anyway, we'll we'll talk about

2498
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:02,879
Speaker 2: that eventually.

2499
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 3: What happened to really Dark Knight. Haven't heard from him

2500
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 3: in a while. I don't know, Really Dark Knight not

2501
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:08,760
Speaker 3: leaving a lot of comments lately.

2502
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 2: I guess I don't. I'm sorry if I missed it,

2503
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 2: but I know really Dark Knight was in the chat

2504
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:19,240
Speaker 2: or registered for the for the show. So maybe come

2505
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:21,440
Speaker 2: to the live chat and hang out, all right? Let

2506
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 2: me see, there were the voicemails Sunday. Let's see it's

2507
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 2: just a voicemail.

2508
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it comes to ordeal with Skype.

2509
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 2: Well I'm trying to see that's that reason called Monday.

2510
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,360
Speaker 2: We don't know what we're gonna get, y'all. What Sunday

2511
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 2: was this?

2512
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2513
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:38,200
Speaker 7: Hey, Rod and.

2514
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:44,800
Speaker 5: Karen, I'm calling because I just heard your feedback show

2515
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:46,920
Speaker 5: about the listener.

2516
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:48,080
Speaker 7: To sence email.

2517
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:53,360
Speaker 5: Explaining the difference between responsibility and blame towards the parents

2518
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:59,440
Speaker 5: and this whole R Kelly tragedy.

2519
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:00,080
Speaker 7: Really, and.

2520
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 5: You know, I have to agree.

2521
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 7: With what you were saying. A lot of it is,

2522
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:09,000
Speaker 7: you know, just.

2523
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 5: It's not the parents.

2524
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes.

2525
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 5: And I'm saying this as a woman that's a parent.

2526
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 7: I have a thirteen year old son, and.

2527
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 5: I have you know, and I grew up as a

2528
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 5: black woman, and I had a friend when we were fourteen,

2529
02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 5: we were maybe fifteen, tenth grade, and she had a

2530
02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 5: twenty eight year old boyfriend and that was her dad's friend.

2531
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 5: And he would pick her up from school and we

2532
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:45,600
Speaker 5: would be going to a Saturday program, you know, it

2533
02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 5: was almost like a college prep program every Saturday, and

2534
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 5: they would pick us up from a specific designation of

2535
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 5: designated area and.

2536
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 7: Before the bus would get there to get us, he

2537
02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 7: would pick her up. So every Saturday she thought.

2538
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 5: That she would you know, over at the program with us,

2539
02:07:02,080 --> 02:07:04,360
Speaker 5: and he was over there picking her up and then

2540
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 5: dropping her back off, and the bus would drop us

2541
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 5: back off. You know, they had a system and they

2542
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 5: would spend time together. And they were together for a

2543
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 5: year before her mother found out. And her mother cried,

2544
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 5: you know, because you know, he was a friend of

2545
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:21,880
Speaker 5: the family, but mom still didn't record him, right, you know,

2546
02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 5: I'm not even sure if mom, I think the relationship

2547
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 5: still went on. I mean, I was sixteen dating someone

2548
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 5: at eighteen and my mom threatened him with.

2549
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:33,400
Speaker 7: The cops and all that, Like she saw that out

2550
02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 7: and that was you know, just a two.

2551
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:35,480
Speaker 5: Year difference but.

2552
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 2: To the next one. But yeah, it's very common, is

2553
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 2: what I was trying to tell people to jail.

2554
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:49,160
Speaker 7: So, like, you know, I guess it really does depend

2555
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 7: on the discression of parents on what to do after.

2556
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:55,960
Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, teenagers we lie. You know, she

2557
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 7: had a job, so she thought, you.

2558
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 5: Know, she was grown, and you know, she you know,

2559
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:04,520
Speaker 5: she had like she developed much earlier than all of

2560
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:05,000
Speaker 5: us did.

2561
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:07,720
Speaker 7: And you know, she liked her body, you know, and.

2562
02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 5: There were not enough people talking to us. We didn't

2563
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,880
Speaker 5: know really what to do with everything that we just

2564
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 5: was almost just given, you know, being women.

2565
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 7: And so I wouldn't blame the parents.

2566
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 5: I think it's just it's so many moving parts in this.

2567
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 5: It's society.

2568
02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 7: It's the men that prey upon these, you know, young children.

2569
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:35,920
Speaker 7: Some of it is the parents as far as you

2570
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 7: know what happened.

2571
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 5: If they do ever find out. So there are a

2572
02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:40,480
Speaker 5: lot of moving parts.

2573
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 7: That you know, come with this. But I just really

2574
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 7: it really makes me so uneasy.

2575
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 5: For everyone so quick to shift this blame on the

2576
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 5: parents instead of the actual predator.

2577
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 2: So any.

2578
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 5: I appreciate all that you guys do. Thank you for

2579
02:08:56,880 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 5: giving us the opportunity to provide feedback. And I'm just

2580
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 5: keep listening because I love y'all.

2581
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, thank you, And I agree, and

2582
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 3: truth be told, it's this is my opinion, it's a

2583
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 3: lot of scared ass parents out there. It's a lot

2584
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 3: of parents with teenagers, teenage girls, teenage boys, uh, teenage

2585
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:22,320
Speaker 3: LGBTQ children that are constantly being targeted. And they know

2586
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 3: and the parents know the world is a fuck up place.

2587
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,280
Speaker 3: So and the thing is as your child grow older,

2588
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 3: you have to get to the point where you can

2589
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 3: trust them.

2590
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:32,760
Speaker 1: Children lie. You were a child, you lie, You wouldn't

2591
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 1: never where you were supposed to be. And it's one

2592
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:39,200
Speaker 1: of those things where you know, the realization is that

2593
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:42,320
Speaker 1: children are people. You can't control them.

2594
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:43,240
Speaker 2: You can't.

2595
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 3: They're individual people that at a certain age they're quote

2596
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 3: unquote grown as far as they can make decisions.

2597
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:55,480
Speaker 2: On their own. Sorry trying to close and start calling people.

2598
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 3: Keep going, no problem, but they're not grown because they

2599
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 3: don't understand the consequences of becauses of their actions.

2600
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 1: And that's a very scary place for a for.

2601
02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:06,280
Speaker 2: A parent to be in.

2602
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:10,720
Speaker 3: And a lot of parents have this thing to hang

2603
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 3: over that hangs over their head where if my child

2604
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 3: fucks up, it makes me look bad.

2605
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 1: If my child fucks up, then everybody's gonna come on me.

2606
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 3: If my child fucks up, I'm gonna like an incompetent parent.

2607
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:25,560
Speaker 3: When sometimes guess what you have done all that you

2608
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 3: can do, and your child has made a conscious effort

2609
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 3: and made a decision, and sometimes there's nothing you can

2610
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,840
Speaker 3: do about it as a parent, And that is the

2611
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:38,440
Speaker 3: most devastating and most horrifying thing for a parent to

2612
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 3: realize you do not have one hundred percent control over

2613
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 3: your child.

2614
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:42,960
Speaker 1: You just don't.

2615
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 2: You just don't.

2616
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 1: Your parents didn't have one hundred percent control over you.

2617
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,720
Speaker 3: There are things that you did now that your parents

2618
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 3: never knew you do, never knew you did, and they

2619
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 3: will never know.

2620
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 1: There's things that your child has done that you will

2621
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: never know that your child has done.

2622
02:10:57,000 --> 02:11:01,080
Speaker 3: And the thing is, people paint this illusion that if

2623
02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 3: your child fucks up, it's one hundred percent on you,

2624
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:08,920
Speaker 3: regardless of your child's choice, your child's decision, regardless.

2625
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 2: Of you as a parent.

2626
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 3: You've done all the things that they've told you to do,

2627
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 3: because that's the thing everybody wanted, like no, no, no.

2628
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:17,160
Speaker 3: You may have taken into therapy, you may have read

2629
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 3: all the books, you may have gave them all the books.

2630
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 3: You have literally done everything the society has told you

2631
02:11:23,120 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 3: that you're supposed to do as a parent. You was

2632
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:28,839
Speaker 3: at every pta meeting, You was at at all the meetings.

2633
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 3: You done everything you was supposed to do. You was

2634
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:32,800
Speaker 3: at the parents teach your conference, You were doing this,

2635
02:11:32,920 --> 02:11:36,320
Speaker 3: you were doing that, and your child still made these decisions.

2636
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 1: And it is not a reflection on you as a parent.

2637
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:42,640
Speaker 1: But society tells us this and it fucks parents up.

2638
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:46,160
Speaker 1: And this is true. It just fucks parents up because

2639
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:47,880
Speaker 1: they they oh my god, oh my god, oh my god,

2640
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't have control.

2641
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 3: No, you do not have one hundred percent control over

2642
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:55,520
Speaker 3: your child. That it's impossible, and it's easier to bring

2643
02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 3: the parent. The parent are parents, because if you bring

2644
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:01,680
Speaker 3: the parents, that means you don't.

2645
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 1: Have to go after the person committing the crime.

2646
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 3: Because the person committing the crime, it's also in your

2647
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:10,120
Speaker 3: family and your friends, you have also been sexually assaulted.

2648
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 2: It's easier to go.

2649
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:14,560
Speaker 1: And this is the thing. It's almost like a double victimization.

2650
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 3: You have a child that's been victimized, and then people

2651
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 3: victimize the parents. Yes, there are there is some responsibility

2652
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 3: that the the You know that as parents, you may

2653
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 3: have could have tweaked the some things, but it comes

2654
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:31,040
Speaker 3: to a point where, even after you've done tweaking, it

2655
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:33,080
Speaker 3: stills come to a point where it's beyond your control.

2656
02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:35,240
Speaker 3: Because that's the thing that a lot of the parents

2657
02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:37,920
Speaker 3: got got because this is the thing they was like, well,

2658
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 3: you know, we had this structure, we had this thing. No, no,

2659
02:12:41,080 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 3: it was bigger than you, and sometimes the parent situations

2660
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:47,560
Speaker 3: is bigger than you, and it's bigger than what you

2661
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:50,720
Speaker 3: as a parent can do, and nobody wants to admit.

2662
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:53,080
Speaker 3: There's some situations that come that you go, look, I

2663
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 3: don't know what else to do. I've done all these things,

2664
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 3: I've done the right things, and I'm still in a

2665
02:12:57,080 --> 02:13:00,280
Speaker 3: fucked up situation with my child that has made a

2666
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:02,600
Speaker 3: conscious decision and a conscious.

2667
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 1: Choice to go against everything that I thought that I

2668
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:07,560
Speaker 1: taught them. You know, because even though you.

2669
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:10,840
Speaker 3: Do these things, children can still reject things, because there

2670
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:14,280
Speaker 3: are individual human being who has the right, who has

2671
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:17,680
Speaker 3: autonomy over their own body, and who can still do

2672
02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:21,480
Speaker 3: what the fuck they want to do, regardless of what

2673
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:22,040
Speaker 3: you say.

2674
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 1: As a parent's children run away all the time. No

2675
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 1: parent wants their child to run away.

2676
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:27,480
Speaker 3: But a lot of times you blame the parents when

2677
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:29,240
Speaker 3: the child has made a choice to do this, and

2678
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 3: in some situations like like if they rant on their

2679
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:33,320
Speaker 3: free will, and.

2680
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 2: It's one of those things.

2681
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 1: It's just a tough thing and place to be in.

2682
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:41,520
Speaker 3: But society and nobody will ever question society for always

2683
02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 3: blaming the victims because you blame the child and you

2684
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:44,200
Speaker 3: blame the parents.

2685
02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:47,280
Speaker 1: The parents are victims. No parent does. A parent does

2686
02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 1: not want to be without their child.

2687
02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:51,040
Speaker 3: And a lot of times when you go it's your fault,

2688
02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 3: is your fault, is your fault, people act like these parents.

2689
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:57,080
Speaker 1: Have no compassion and they don't love their children. They do,

2690
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 1: they love their children, and this.

2691
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:02,800
Speaker 3: Is why now they're fighting and they're they're acting the

2692
02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:05,360
Speaker 3: full online and we want our child back because they

2693
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 3: actually do care about their child. It does not mean

2694
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 3: that you don't love your child more just because your

2695
02:14:10,240 --> 02:14:12,440
Speaker 3: child happened not to fuck up. All children fuck up,

2696
02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:15,520
Speaker 3: but because your child done everything and and and and

2697
02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 3: and and and and did any all these things that

2698
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:20,200
Speaker 3: they were supposed to do, you think that you are

2699
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:21,080
Speaker 3: a better parent.

2700
02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:22,880
Speaker 1: And a lot of times parents.

2701
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:26,440
Speaker 3: Whose children haven't fucked up yet or children are parents

2702
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:28,840
Speaker 3: who don't know their children fucked up because they don't

2703
02:14:28,840 --> 02:14:29,760
Speaker 3: want to tell you about it.

2704
02:14:30,200 --> 02:14:32,720
Speaker 1: They do the blame game because it's easy to say,

2705
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:35,440
Speaker 1: my child is perfect, I did everything perfect. Because a parent,

2706
02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:39,040
Speaker 1: you parent, you fucked up because your child fucked up.

2707
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:41,400
Speaker 3: And they do it in abuse, they do it in

2708
02:14:41,480 --> 02:14:44,080
Speaker 3: teenage pregnancy, they do it when child when when children

2709
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:45,120
Speaker 3: get on drugs and alcohol.

2710
02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:46,960
Speaker 1: They do it across the board.

2711
02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:49,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's you know, and and it's and and

2712
02:14:49,120 --> 02:14:52,000
Speaker 3: and I understand. Yes, there's some things where it is

2713
02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:55,000
Speaker 3: the parent's responsibility, Please don't get me wrong, but there

2714
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:57,920
Speaker 3: are some things that that it cannot be one hundred

2715
02:14:57,920 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 3: percent on the parent and it can't be one hundred

2716
02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:01,360
Speaker 3: percent on the child in this situation.

2717
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 1: And in my opinion, it's a deflection.

2718
02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:09,560
Speaker 3: Or a way to get around of not holding the

2719
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:13,520
Speaker 3: person who committed the crime responsible because in general, parents

2720
02:15:13,560 --> 02:15:15,680
Speaker 3: and adults know the world is fucked up and you

2721
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,800
Speaker 3: can't get the world to change. So instead of getting

2722
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:21,240
Speaker 3: the world to change, we'll get the victims to change,

2723
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:21,960
Speaker 3: which fix.

2724
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:24,360
Speaker 1: This fucking nothing because nobody's held accountable.

2725
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the things I would say on this to add

2726
02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:33,640
Speaker 2: because I agree with everything you just said obviously as

2727
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:36,960
Speaker 2: well stated the things that make your child brilliant for

2728
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:40,560
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen also the things that are gonna make them

2729
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:44,000
Speaker 2: able to deceive you, Like you patch your kids on

2730
02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:46,120
Speaker 2: the back for being so smart and this and that

2731
02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:48,280
Speaker 2: and ahead of day time, and we call it maturity,

2732
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:51,000
Speaker 2: but it's not really maturity. But those are the same

2733
02:15:51,080 --> 02:15:58,480
Speaker 2: things predators know your child is quote unquote, they know

2734
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 2: your kid isn't fully developed mentally either, and they use

2735
02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:07,680
Speaker 2: that against you. They ally your child against you. And

2736
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:13,240
Speaker 2: then also a lot of these people project this stuff

2737
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:15,960
Speaker 2: onto these parents, and they also projected onto their own

2738
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:19,800
Speaker 2: like this is the same mentality we have against sexual

2739
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:23,760
Speaker 2: assaults where we go, well, I'm not like those girls

2740
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:25,840
Speaker 2: that wear those little skirts and go to these parties

2741
02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:30,240
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, so how does that explain that

2742
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:33,680
Speaker 2: most women are sexually assault about someone they know, whether

2743
02:16:33,680 --> 02:16:37,080
Speaker 2: it's a family or friend member or something like that. Well,

2744
02:16:37,160 --> 02:16:39,879
Speaker 2: I'm not like, yeah, because you want to feel superior

2745
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:41,920
Speaker 2: to somebody and you think that makes you feel safe,

2746
02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:44,360
Speaker 2: but you're not safe, and you don't want to have

2747
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:46,720
Speaker 2: to live in a world where you're not safe. Nobody

2748
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 2: wants to think I'm just lucky my kid just didn't

2749
02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:53,320
Speaker 2: get targeted by one of these predators at the right time,

2750
02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:56,920
Speaker 2: or I happen to catch something early, or you know,

2751
02:16:57,560 --> 02:17:00,160
Speaker 2: you know, because the other thing a lot of people do.

2752
02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:03,240
Speaker 2: Y'all don't do nothing but delay it. Y'all, y'all keep

2753
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:06,920
Speaker 2: your daughters in the house and overshadow them and all

2754
02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:09,080
Speaker 2: this shit, And then what do we all make that joke.

2755
02:17:09,240 --> 02:17:11,840
Speaker 2: You go to colleges, that's a church girl or that's

2756
02:17:11,879 --> 02:17:14,320
Speaker 2: the pastor's daughter. You know how they get down like

2757
02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:17,480
Speaker 2: you're just hoping to get lucky and you're helping that

2758
02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 2: these kids can not be targeted by these people and stuff.

2759
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,280
Speaker 2: And like I said, we fourteen, you can be complicit

2760
02:17:24,320 --> 02:17:28,640
Speaker 2: in it because some fucking adult men, people who we've

2761
02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:32,880
Speaker 2: been taught are better and safe. But also when we

2762
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:35,360
Speaker 2: start getting sexual urges and shit, these are the more

2763
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:40,000
Speaker 2: mature sexually people. So if they start telling me I'm mature,

2764
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:44,240
Speaker 2: I'm smart, I look good, I'm special, my mind is

2765
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:46,880
Speaker 2: right for the plucking, you know, and it's not. You know,

2766
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:49,400
Speaker 2: That's why I don't understand how we're not just completely

2767
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:52,480
Speaker 2: focused on the predators situation, because we're not talking about

2768
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:55,280
Speaker 2: parents that weren't their kids' wives that just left their

2769
02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 2: kids alone all the time or something like that. We're

2770
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:00,800
Speaker 2: talking about our parents that were complete in the abuse.

2771
02:18:01,200 --> 02:18:04,640
Speaker 2: We're talking about parents that essentially got they couldn't out,

2772
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:08,600
Speaker 2: they couldn't beat the network of the predatory network of R. Kelly, right,

2773
02:18:08,840 --> 02:18:10,520
Speaker 2: And if we can't stay focused on that, then I

2774
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 2: don't know when we're gonna ever stay focused. All right,

2775
02:18:13,879 --> 02:18:18,640
Speaker 2: we got some emails to get to. Hello, Rod, I'm

2776
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 2: just from Steve one point nine. Stephen one point nine

2777
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:26,160
Speaker 2: says BGWT podcast comment, and man, don't forget the T.

2778
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:29,160
Speaker 2: I know you're not supposed to put the as abbreviation.

2779
02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:29,120
Speaker 7: But we do.

2780
02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:32,600
Speaker 2: I am new to the whole podcast world. I turned

2781
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:37,440
Speaker 2: the podcast in because today's music sucks. Oh here we go, uh,

2782
02:18:37,879 --> 02:18:39,879
Speaker 2: and I'm starting. I'm tired of hearing all the sayings

2783
02:18:39,959 --> 02:18:43,240
Speaker 2: ninety songs back to back on my serious XM. I'm

2784
02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:46,400
Speaker 2: a southern white guy who loves urban slash black comedy,

2785
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:49,040
Speaker 2: and when I searched that in my podcast search, I

2786
02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:52,080
Speaker 2: came across yours, heard the latest one, and have listened

2787
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:55,760
Speaker 2: ever since. All Right, that's interesting because some of these

2788
02:18:55,760 --> 02:18:56,680
Speaker 2: episodes ain't funny.

2789
02:18:57,160 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 1: My favorite they're not always funny.

2790
02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:02,440
Speaker 3: My favorite segment you two do is when you read

2791
02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:04,840
Speaker 3: crime articles and we have to guess if they are

2792
02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:05,680
Speaker 3: white or black.

2793
02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:09,560
Speaker 2: That shit is stupid funny. Well, yeah, yeah, guess the

2794
02:19:09,680 --> 02:19:12,400
Speaker 2: race is funny, not just white and black, although that's

2795
02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:15,240
Speaker 2: mostly what everybody guesses. I've been doing that with my

2796
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:18,560
Speaker 2: friends for years. I gave white jokes all the time,

2797
02:19:18,879 --> 02:19:23,039
Speaker 2: even though I'm white. Also, I've always been more relatable

2798
02:19:23,120 --> 02:19:26,320
Speaker 2: to the urban black community. My friends gave me the

2799
02:19:26,440 --> 02:19:29,160
Speaker 2: nickname one point nine because when DNA twenty three and

2800
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:31,920
Speaker 2: me results came back and said that I on one

2801
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:39,440
Speaker 2: point nine African American, although I am mostly French Spanish. Anyways, guys,

2802
02:19:39,560 --> 02:19:42,520
Speaker 2: keep up the good work. Thanks Steven one point nine. Well,

2803
02:19:42,520 --> 02:19:46,560
Speaker 2: all right, Steven one point nine. Good luck, buddy, good

2804
02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:47,720
Speaker 2: good luck out there.

2805
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:49,480
Speaker 1: I hope you. I hope you stay around.

2806
02:19:49,800 --> 02:19:53,520
Speaker 3: That's how I hope you stay around, buddy, oh man,

2807
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:55,560
Speaker 3: all right, A lot of times people don't.

2808
02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

2809
02:19:57,400 --> 02:20:00,680
Speaker 3: We'll see if you really got some black friends, because

2810
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 3: if you write some hert ass email up here, it's

2811
02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:06,240
Speaker 3: gonna be, like I said, I try not to drag,

2812
02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:07,280
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be curtains.

2813
02:20:07,360 --> 02:20:12,279
Speaker 2: So let's just keep it friendly. Never know, never know anyway, Stephen,

2814
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:15,640
Speaker 2: thanks for listening, not thanks for righting now too funny feedback.

2815
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:19,360
Speaker 3: This is from signed a ghetto ass parent. Hey, Rod

2816
02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:21,240
Speaker 3: and Karen. I've been listening for a few years and

2817
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:23,720
Speaker 3: have enjoyed every second of y'all's podcast. My teenage daughter

2818
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:26,440
Speaker 3: overheard me listening during guests the race segment a few

2819
02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:28,080
Speaker 3: months ago, she cannot stop laughing.

2820
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:30,200
Speaker 2: She has been able. She has been asking to listen

2821
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:33,040
Speaker 2: ever since I skipped over the sexy sponsor, though she

2822
02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:37,760
Speaker 2: has She has now claimed the Blackoutips featshirt for herself,

2823
02:20:37,879 --> 02:20:40,360
Speaker 2: so I had to buy another one. Shout out to

2824
02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:42,840
Speaker 2: tea public thirty percent sail, Come on, come on through,

2825
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:46,720
Speaker 2: don't forget tea public y'all funny story. Now that she's

2826
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:50,240
Speaker 2: a mature teen, I finally let her watch Game of Throngs. Also,

2827
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 2: I needed a refresher before the due season starts. Of course,

2828
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:56,520
Speaker 2: I cover her eyes during the sex scenes because I'm cool,

2829
02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:59,800
Speaker 2: but I'm not that cool anyway. I mentioned that y'all

2830
02:20:59,879 --> 02:21:01,840
Speaker 2: do Game of thronges recaps. She wanted to hear it,

2831
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:04,880
Speaker 2: but it's behind the paywall now sad face. Well, because

2832
02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:07,400
Speaker 2: the good parents that I am, I became a premium

2833
02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 2: the Black Autist member to make her my baby happy. Oh.

2834
02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 3: Now we're watching episode of Game of Throngs at night

2835
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:16,560
Speaker 3: and listen to the recap in the morning. The nicknames

2836
02:21:16,640 --> 02:21:19,080
Speaker 3: for the characters like the High Sanders, the freakis Prints,

2837
02:21:19,160 --> 02:21:20,680
Speaker 3: and the Bitch from Work cracked me.

2838
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:23,880
Speaker 2: Up every time. So thanks Rod and Karen for helping

2839
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 2: me get be a better parent. Keep being the best

2840
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:29,480
Speaker 2: in these podcast streets. Signed a ghetto ass parent, thank you.

2841
02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:34,760
Speaker 2: And the last one this is from our girl. I

2842
02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:42,520
Speaker 2: believe this is Brooklyn shoe Babe who says feedback Big Max, Gray,

2843
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:49,200
Speaker 2: Pews and Toboggans, Dear Karen and that other guy. Really really,

2844
02:21:50,120 --> 02:21:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm the one that gotta read these y'all guys. See,

2845
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:56,320
Speaker 2: this is why I don't feel supported by the black

2846
02:21:56,400 --> 02:22:01,120
Speaker 2: women and on you. I agree with Charlemagne, Kevin Hart

2847
02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:03,560
Speaker 2: and Lebron who I don't know what he did.

2848
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:05,880
Speaker 1: You had sad counseled m M.

2849
02:22:06,640 --> 02:22:09,800
Speaker 2: This is my feeling is hurt. I'm completely fragile now.

2850
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:12,560
Speaker 2: I was feeling you so much when you were talking

2851
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:15,600
Speaker 2: about Toboggans literally snatching your edges. Before I went natural

2852
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:17,960
Speaker 2: and before I cut my off ad super short, I

2853
02:22:18,080 --> 02:22:21,400
Speaker 2: used to wear my satin sleep scarf underneath my winter hat.

2854
02:22:21,800 --> 02:22:23,880
Speaker 2: I did this in high school, and I remember the

2855
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:25,680
Speaker 2: kids used to make fun of me and call me

2856
02:22:25,720 --> 02:22:30,279
Speaker 2: aunt Jemama. I went. I went to an all black schools,

2857
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:32,959
Speaker 2: so nobody was being racist when they said that they were,

2858
02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:35,280
Speaker 2: but they weren't. I feel you. Yeah, we can do it,

2859
02:22:35,720 --> 02:22:38,680
Speaker 2: but look who got the last last. Thirty years later, me.

2860
02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:43,400
Speaker 1: And my edges go on the bouncing lost airs, fucking around.

2861
02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:48,400
Speaker 2: The type pony tails. Although I've heard of that hat

2862
02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:51,240
Speaker 2: you're describing call to boggans before, I think it's a

2863
02:22:51,320 --> 02:22:53,400
Speaker 2: regional thing. I live and grew up in Brooklyn, and

2864
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:56,040
Speaker 2: those hats were either called skull caps, winter cap or

2865
02:22:56,080 --> 02:22:56,640
Speaker 2: winter hats.

2866
02:22:56,879 --> 02:22:58,720
Speaker 1: A beanies is another word they used for it.

2867
02:22:59,800 --> 02:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Now on fashion web sites they regularly refer to them beanies,

2868
02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 2: although beanies, in my mind are shorter and usually have

2869
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:09,280
Speaker 2: a propeller on top. Lol. Speaking of gray pewes and

2870
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,160
Speaker 2: great body hair, I love when you bring up this

2871
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:13,400
Speaker 2: stuff camera because I think we come from a generation

2872
02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:16,400
Speaker 2: where people don't warn you about the challenges of growing old,

2873
02:23:16,520 --> 02:23:18,200
Speaker 2: except for achy joints. Now that I'm a.

2874
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:21,040
Speaker 3: Few years from fifty in my mom a few years

2875
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,360
Speaker 3: from seventy, shares a lot of her agent experiences with

2876
02:23:23,480 --> 02:23:27,040
Speaker 3: me that her mom my grandma never told her one.

2877
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:29,920
Speaker 2: There's emotional told or agent. Because we are in society

2878
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,280
Speaker 2: that values you. The economy and the culture do not

2879
02:23:33,640 --> 02:23:37,680
Speaker 2: cater to us. There's no representation, and also, according to

2880
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:40,320
Speaker 2: my mom, you lose patient interacting with people and just

2881
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:42,680
Speaker 2: want to stay home. Of course, there's the gray hairs

2882
02:23:42,720 --> 02:23:46,000
Speaker 2: popping up everywhere and eventually turning into hairless mole. Rat

2883
02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:49,680
Speaker 2: laughed my ass off. Recently, I found two great eyelashes.

2884
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:53,120
Speaker 2: What in the actual fuck? Speaking of things that make

2885
02:23:53,160 --> 02:23:55,800
Speaker 2: you say, what the fuck? Trump's serving fast food to

2886
02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 2: those college athletes was absolutely bananas. Well that's a treat

2887
02:23:59,480 --> 02:24:02,320
Speaker 2: when you're a twelve year old boys playing flag football,

2888
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 2: but not when you're making you millions of dollars of

2889
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:06,560
Speaker 2: college Shaking my head in a weird way, I was

2890
02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:09,240
Speaker 2: the lead, sort of one. I realized it was catered

2891
02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:11,400
Speaker 2: that way because of the furlough. The means and the

2892
02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:14,760
Speaker 2: comments on Twitter have been beautiful. Finally, fuck r Kelly

2893
02:24:14,840 --> 02:24:17,160
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart, sit down, to shut up, and you have

2894
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:21,080
Speaker 2: another number one movie. Yeah, he did have another number movie.

2895
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:23,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy. The more he talks, the more I can't

2896
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:27,280
Speaker 2: ignore this fuck up, fucked up shit. I legitimately like

2897
02:24:27,360 --> 02:24:29,320
Speaker 2: his comedy and stand up. I don't want to cancel him,

2898
02:24:29,360 --> 02:24:32,560
Speaker 2: but he's making it really hard. Listen, if Charlemagne is

2899
02:24:32,600 --> 02:24:37,360
Speaker 2: out here doing still living and uh you know City

2900
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:42,760
Speaker 2: girls back. I don't don't just cancel, you know, cancel,

2901
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:46,160
Speaker 2: let your own at your own risk. You know, understand

2902
02:24:46,200 --> 02:24:48,160
Speaker 2: that these niggas will make you cancel somebody and be

2903
02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:51,280
Speaker 2: absolutely sharing that shit the next day. I've seen people

2904
02:24:51,320 --> 02:24:54,040
Speaker 2: that cancel me sharing breakfast club clips. I'll see how

2905
02:24:54,120 --> 02:24:59,000
Speaker 2: that worked. I'm less problematic. I'm more problematic than the niggas.

2906
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:03,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for keep that same energy. Thanks for letting me

2907
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:06,600
Speaker 2: write so much. Take care of Brooklyn three babe. Ps.

2908
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:09,160
Speaker 2: If you want to avoid ingrownd hair under your arms,

2909
02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:11,119
Speaker 2: care and you don't mind not being one hundred percent

2910
02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:14,920
Speaker 2: smooth us. An electric mustache tremor saved my life. There's

2911
02:25:14,959 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 2: also electric bikini line tremors. They will give you a

2912
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:23,520
Speaker 2: super close shave. Thank you, Brooklyn shoe babe. We appreciate it.

2913
02:25:23,959 --> 02:25:27,120
Speaker 2: That's all the feedback for today. I believe. Thank you

2914
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:30,200
Speaker 2: so much. Everybody took the time out. I'm actually a

2915
02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:32,960
Speaker 2: little bit late for an appointment, so I got to

2916
02:25:33,080 --> 02:25:36,119
Speaker 2: get out of here. But I appreciate y'all and look

2917
02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:38,560
Speaker 2: forward to me being on the insanity check on the

2918
02:25:38,600 --> 02:25:41,920
Speaker 2: movie trailer reviews, feed in your podcast apps. All right,

2919
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:44,680
Speaker 2: until next time, I love you, why