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Speaker 1: Smell Us.

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Speaker 2: Now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 3: That's one pm for our friends in Lincolnton, Georgia on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: April tenth, and we're live for Meat Eater, HQ and Bozeman.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Spencer new Art, joined today by Jannis

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Speaker 3: Butellus and Brody Henderson. On today's show, we'll interview Stephanie

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Speaker 3: Raymond from the Orca Network about one of the world's

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Speaker 3: most endangered whales. After that, we'll do one minute fishing

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Speaker 3: with our friends at Trout Unlimited, followed by the top

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Speaker 3: three biggest fish we've ever landed, and finally we'll talk

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Speaker 3: to James Kine about the day he caught one hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars while magnet fishing. Lincolnton, Georgia is a place

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Speaker 3: I visited last year while attending the Masters. It's Master's

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Speaker 3: Week right now. I had one of the most unique

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Speaker 3: dining experiences of my life there.

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Speaker 4: It was it was.

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Speaker 3: So southern that I couldn't believe that it was real.

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Speaker 3: It's called Papa's Old South. You went into a little

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Speaker 3: trailer house, and you ate from their buffet of all

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Speaker 3: sorts of Southern fried foods. It was so satisfying. If

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Speaker 3: you live in Georgia, if you're ever attending the Masters,

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Speaker 3: make the drive to Lincolnton to visit Papa's Old South.

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Speaker 3: But I got one master's story to tell you, because

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Speaker 3: the Master's teed off today.

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Speaker 2: Hold on before you tell us that, tell me what

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Speaker 2: you ate there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything they had, every protein was fried, so like

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Speaker 3: fried chicken that was delicious. They're corn bread that was great,

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Speaker 3: and then carrat fish of course, they had catfish. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they had Mountain jiganafish.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They would shame you if you didn't take enough on

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Speaker 3: your plate. It was that kind of place. And maybe

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Speaker 3: that sort of experience is more common than I'm aware of.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just ignorant to like how Southern folks treat

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Speaker 3: you and how just dang nice they are and how

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Speaker 3: excited they are about their food. But go to Papa's

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Speaker 3: Old South. I loved it. I can't believe it exists

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. And then the other best thing

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Speaker 3: was the dessert. It was a cherry pie, I believe.

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Speaker 3: Oh interesting, we were in there with all the good

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Speaker 3: church going folks while we were head to the Masters.

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Speaker 3: How much was this buf fey I don't know, probably

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Speaker 3: like twenty bucks or something. The price didn't feel very

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Speaker 3: Southern that that made sense to me as I, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's relatable. The rest of it was very different though,

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Speaker 3: what Master's story to tell you. You know our friend

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Speaker 3: Brian Harmon, who's been on Trivia, he's been on the

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Speaker 3: Regular Mediater podcast. We were there on a practice day,

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Speaker 3: which is when things are like less serious than the

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Speaker 3: actual tournament, so you can there's like a little more

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Speaker 3: leeway for the patrons. They call them patrons. You're not

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Speaker 3: a fan when you're there because you're not fanatical, you're

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Speaker 3: just like very respectful and you're a patron.

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Speaker 5: They have all kinds of vocabulary things they have to say.

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Speaker 5: It's very different. It's not the rough. It's a second cut.

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Speaker 5: I can't say rough.

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Speaker 3: It's very different. I'm glad it exists in that one place.

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Speaker 3: If the entire golf world was like that, I'd be like,

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Speaker 3: this is so pretentious, it's disgusting. But having it exist

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Speaker 3: in that one sort of place once a year, I

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Speaker 3: enjoyed that anyway. Brian Harmon. He was on the first

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Speaker 3: practice day. I was with a few buddies and I

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Speaker 3: was like, do you think he'd like look over if

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Speaker 3: I made a little turkey call. There are no turkeys

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Speaker 3: that live on Augusta. But he was probably seventy five

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Speaker 3: let's watch this. And so I'm did that. Sure enough,

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Speaker 3: his head turned on a swivel over to my direction.

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Speaker 3: No one else though, in this crowd of hundreds of people,

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Speaker 3: acknowledged it. That was just very satisfying. That's why I'll

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Speaker 3: always cheer for Brian Harmon.

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Speaker 2: So there is a lot of birds.

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Speaker 5: They don't pipe in the bird noises, you know what.

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Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of birds. You hear a

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Speaker 3: lot of birds, and a conspiracy theorists would tell you that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there are speakers around that you can't see. I I

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Speaker 3: would bet there are speakers piping in some of those

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Speaker 3: other tournaments have been busted for doing exactly that. But

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Speaker 3: that place, yeah, that place is so manicured. Like you

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Speaker 3: far as what this place should look like, smell, likes,

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Speaker 4: Brody.

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Speaker 2: The epitome of cleaning up the woods, it's oh, it's.

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Speaker 5: Wid That's what it is, the natural environment.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, well no, I'm saying it's it's not. But

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Speaker 2: you know, my uh my elders, you know, my my

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Speaker 2: the generation of my dad's parents, and so they were

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Speaker 2: like my great uncles and whatever. They were big into that,

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Speaker 2: Like that was the thing they did. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: they would do things like clean up, clean out all

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Speaker 2: the you know seaweed, not seaweed, but whatever, you know

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Speaker 2: plant was growing in the pond, sure, or go into

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Speaker 2: the woods and literally rake the woods clean, right, And

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Speaker 2: it was just like in their mind they're beautifying, right,

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Speaker 2: And let mean a lot of people do that now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let me look at lawns. I mean that's sure.

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Speaker 2: People love to manicure. Oh man, like you means love

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Speaker 5: Nature really doesn't. I worked on a golf court ground

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Speaker 5: crew all through high school and college, and this time

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Speaker 5: of year in the north, they're like way past this

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Speaker 5: down where the Masters is going on. But like when

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Speaker 5: that's all we did was pick up sticks off the ground,

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Speaker 5: Like hours and hours.

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Speaker 3: Of picking up stick What other work did you do

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Speaker 5: Grounds? Threw everything?

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Speaker 3: And did you ever swing a golf club in those days?

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Speaker 5: Once in a while we'd dick around. But like I'm

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Speaker 3: What about your peers working there? Were they not like

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Speaker 5: No, like guys like we had a little like crew

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Speaker 2: There was a job.

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Speaker 5: It was a job, but it was a cool job

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Speaker 5: because it started five or six in the morning, be

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Speaker 3: Want was that covered in turkeys?

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Speaker 5: Yes, that course. What we used to hunt on that

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Speaker 5: the brothers that owned that course. So we'd now and

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Speaker 3: That that'd be a dream permission to get is on

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Speaker 3: a golf course something not Augusta though, No turkey's there.

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Speaker 3: But for Brian Harmon, he thought for two seconds that

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Speaker 2: I think you actually like hunting the golf course, would I? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. If you're out there and you got permission, or

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Speaker 3: you own a golf course, you're a manager at a

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Speaker 3: golf course, and that place is covered up in deer,

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Speaker 3: you let me know. I'll come hunt that thing for you.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you like it? That's no different than hunting

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Speaker 3: a cornfield.

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Speaker 2: No, it is a lot different.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of leaning with if you're in to compare

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Speaker 5: it to a cornfield, it ain't that much different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, them deer being deer when they're out on a

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I also like the idea of hunting them in a

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Speaker 3: I've lived in places out of at urban hunts that

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Speaker 3: I like haven't drawn the tag. That would be a

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Speaker 3: unique experience. Then I would also embrace if you're, you know,

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Speaker 3: forty yards off someone's back patio, boy, that'd be fun.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to spend the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess for an experience, I would do it.

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Speaker 2: It just would seem that for me aesthetically, it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be as pleasing as hunting in the woods.

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Speaker 3: We're not disagreeing there. If you've got a golf course

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Speaker 3: that you can let me hunt you some golf courses

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Speaker 3: have a lot of woods that one that I worked on, Johnny,

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Speaker 3: is your line season over with?

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Speaker 2: I've got like there's like four days left in the season.

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Speaker 2: Season ends on the fourteenth, which is next Monday.

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Speaker 3: But does it feel like it's over with when there's

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Speaker 2: It's it's tough for hunting conditions. I don't mind them.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's good for the dog. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: definitely go out at least one more day this weekend,

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Speaker 2: and you know, there's probably a lot of people that

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Speaker 3: Of folks, you know, because of snow, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or just you know, it's like anything. It's like Turkey season.

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Speaker 2: If it's a six week long Turkey season, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's sure ninety percent of the people are out there

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Speaker 2: in the first week, and then the numbers just atrophy,

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Speaker 2: you know, from there on out. I imagine the same

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Speaker 2: elk season. Imagine. I mean, our season is I don't know,

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Speaker 2: five months long. So yeah, but it's you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: the animals are still out there and you can still

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Speaker 2: Fresh snow makes it easier to find the original track.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we had a tough hunt the other day

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Speaker 2: where Mingus just ran a lot of trash, which I

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Speaker 2: don't really like that term, but that basically means when

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Speaker 2: he's running anything besides what he's supposed to be running.

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Speaker 3: And give me an example of fox.

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Speaker 2: Sure fox kyo deer and he was in with another

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Speaker 2: pack of dogs. And I'm not blaming that other pack,

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Speaker 2: but similar to humans, you get into a group and

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Speaker 2: booger barking, which I was thinking about where that comes from,

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Speaker 2: and I was thinking, maybe they it's like a term

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Speaker 2: for being like, oh yeah, they're they're literally instead of

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Speaker 2: smelling the scent on the ground of a lion, he's

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Speaker 2: literally smelling his own boogers and barking at them. I

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Speaker 3: When I hear that, I think of like a turkey

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Speaker 3: hont getting boogered, just like things went wrong.

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Speaker 2: Sure, so I would definitely like to go out and

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Speaker 2: finish on a little bit better note, because right now,

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Speaker 2: when I came upstairs this morning, I saw Mangus crawling

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll come back and tell you I had a

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Speaker 3: now is Stephanie Raymond, the program manager from the Orca Network.

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Speaker 3: Stephanie is here to educate us about one of the

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Speaker 3: world's most endangered animals, the Southern resident orcas. Stephanie, Welcome

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: First. Thank Stephanie. Tell us about what makes southern resident

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Speaker 8: Well, so, yeah, Orcas are one of the most widely

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Speaker 8: And just last fall, the Southern resident orcas were designated

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Speaker 5: Now who Spencer and I are arguing about this earlier

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Speaker 5: Like like how like who's deciding their different species? And

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Speaker 5: how has that decided? And like, you know a lot

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Speaker 8: There is some formal body and I don't know their

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Speaker 8: Each has a specialized diet depending on what's available to

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Speaker 8: distinct population of about seventy four animals who range from

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Speaker 8: They are made up of three large extended family groups

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Speaker 8: within this population, the young whales never leave their mothers.

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Speaker 8: that way. They are primarily salmon eaters. Over eighty percent

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Speaker 3: Okay, so seventy four of them left in the wild.

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Speaker 3: What's caused that decline?

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Speaker 8: Boy a lot of things. So these whales, primarily their

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Speaker 8: that has been a challenge. They also these animals have

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Speaker 8: metabolize that fat. The blubber that there would normally be

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Speaker 8: And then we have evidence that shows us that, first

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so we don't know exactly how many were present

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Speaker 3: Talk about that capture era, Stephanie, and how differently these

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Speaker 8: Yeah, these animals used to be feared very much. People

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Speaker 8: And then we had Namu, who famously was caught in

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Speaker 8: So this was a really interesting human phenomenon as much

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Speaker 8: And they do have these social trends that happen, whether

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Speaker 8: that had a salmon sitting on the head of an orca. Well,

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Speaker 8: somebody grabbed that from one of our reports that we

436
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Speaker 8: put out and it went viral and everybody's like, oh,

437
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Speaker 8: they're reviving the trend. But the reality is that that

438
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Speaker 8: was part of a series of pictures in which, you know,

439
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Speaker 8: the picture before and the picture after did not show

440
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Speaker 8: a salmon on the orc's head, and so we don't

441
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Speaker 8: know exactly how that fish wound up on that whales

442
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 8: head for just a second, but it did not appear

443
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Speaker 8: to be actually carrying it. There was one other researcher

444
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Speaker 8: who witnessed a salmon on the head of an orca

445
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Speaker 8: for a second as well, but didn't get a picture

446
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Speaker 8: of it. And that was it. And the reality is

447
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 8: that when these whales come down into Puget Sound, which

448
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Speaker 8: is what they do in the fall, because that's when

449
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Speaker 8: the salmon are running into the sound. There are hundreds

450
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Speaker 8: of people on the shorelines with cameras documenting their presence,

451
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Speaker 8: getting their pictures. And if there had been a widespread

452
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Speaker 8: revival of that salmon hat trend, we definitely seen a

453
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Speaker 8: lot more evidence of that than we actually did. It

454
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Speaker 8: was just really interesting how compelling it was to humans. Again,

455
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Speaker 8: you know, here's this interesting behavior. Look what they're doing.

456
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Speaker 8: They're doing something like us. They have a fashion trend,

457
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Speaker 8: and it just really we were getting media requests from

458
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Speaker 8: as far away as Germany and New Zealand for people

459
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Speaker 8: asking about this particular situation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and Stephanie is skeptical that the salmon hand are

461
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Speaker 3: back and fashionable.

462
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we haven't. Haven't seen it since now.

463
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Speaker 3: Last year, the largest dam removal project in US history

464
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Speaker 3: took place when four dams were destroyed on the Klamath River.

465
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Speaker 3: Talk about what that means for these southern resident orcas.

466
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Speaker 8: So what that means is that there's now more habitat

467
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Speaker 8: for these chinook salmon to spawn. And we know that

468
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Speaker 8: the further the chinook have to travel upriver, the bigger

469
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Speaker 8: those fish have to be. It also really you know,

470
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Speaker 8: has a big influence on the spring Chinook Run. These

471
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Speaker 8: were salmon that would enter the rivers in the spring,

472
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Speaker 8: but they didn't spawn until the fall because it took

473
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Speaker 8: them that long to get all the way up to

474
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Speaker 8: the upper watersheds. So when we open up this upper

475
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Speaker 8: watershed habitat, we are really improving the salmon supply for

476
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Speaker 8: the southern residents to eat. And that's true all up

477
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Speaker 8: and down the coast, of course, because as I said before,

478
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Speaker 8: they go down as far as Monterey Bay, all of

479
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Speaker 8: the salmon bearing streams on the Pacific Northwest coast potentially

480
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Speaker 8: can supply them with additional salmon to eat. What we've

481
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Speaker 8: seen as the fisheries have declined is that there are

482
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Speaker 8: not only fewer fish, but they tend to be smaller

483
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Speaker 8: because they have less range to spawn in, and that

484
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Speaker 8: means that the whales are working harder. They're spending more

485
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Speaker 8: energy to find smaller fish, so they have to spend

486
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Speaker 8: even more energy to get enough food to eat. So

487
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Speaker 8: bigger fish are great. More spawning habitat for those fish

488
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Speaker 8: is great. And you know, both the Klamath and the

489
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Speaker 8: Elwah Dam removal projects are potentially going to boost that

490
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Speaker 8: supply of salmon and Hopefully that's going to make a

491
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Speaker 8: big difference for these animals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's send this interview on some more good news.

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Speaker 3: It's news, it's only a few days old. Tell us

494
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Speaker 3: about the newest member of the Southern Resident JPod.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is really exciting. We just had a baby

496
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Speaker 8: J sixty three, so it won't be given a nickname

497
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Speaker 8: for at least another six months or so. There's not

498
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Speaker 8: a lot to say at this point. She appears to

499
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Speaker 8: be the first calf of a whale known as J

500
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 8: forty Subtles, and Subtles has a long history of being

501
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 8: kind of an anti or babysitter to other new calves,

502
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Speaker 8: but has never been seen with a calf of her own.

503
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Speaker 8: So so far, baby looks great and we're cautiously optimistic,

504
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 8: but of course we'll need to have a few more

505
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Speaker 8: sightings to confirm that Subtle's really is mom and that

506
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 8: things are continuing to go well. And the other piece

507
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 8: of good news is that baby J sixty two, who

508
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 8: was born in December, is also appears to be thriving.

509
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 8: That little one seems to be doing really really well

510
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 8: in recent observations.

511
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Speaker 3: And lasting If people want to help Southern Resident orcas

512
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Speaker 3: and support their conservation efforts. What can they do.

513
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Speaker 8: So it really goes back to, you know, a lot

514
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 8: of the stuff that we're told is good for the

515
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 8: environment is going to be helpful for these whales ultimately,

516
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 8: because we're all connected in that way. If you're in

517
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 8: the Pacific Northwest, being aware of your watershed and what

518
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 8: you're contributing to it is really important. Avoiding toxic products

519
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 8: for lawn garden or farm care, maintaining your vehicle so

520
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 8: you're not leaking oil, and making sure your tires are

521
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 8: properly inflated. It turns out the dusts that erodes off

522
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 8: of tires it's actually really toxic for some types of salmon.

523
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 8: So that's another piece that we're you know, as we're

524
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 8: uncovering the different ways that we can restore salmon habitat.

525
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 8: That's one of the things that's being looked at. Conservative

526
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 8: electricity is huge because again, you know, we're here in

527
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 8: the Northwest, we're so used to abundant, inexpensive hydropower, but

528
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 8: we know now what a devastating effect that has on

529
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Speaker 8: the salmon population and wherever you live, you know, because

530
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 8: we are power grid spreads all over the place, that's helpful,

531
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Speaker 8: Advocating against proposed dams or removing existing dams that we

532
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 8: don't necessarily need anymore, advocating for good conservation policies for

533
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Speaker 8: salmon and for orcas. All of those things are things

534
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 8: that people can do to support this population.

535
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Speaker 3: Okay, everyone listening is going to do their part. Thanks

536
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: for joining us, Stephanie in congrats on the J sixty

537
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Speaker 3: three news.

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00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 8: Thank you, and thanks so much for having me.

539
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: You bloys feel differently about or because now you all excited.

540
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: I mean, they're super cool animals, you know. I'm glad

541
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 5: to hear they're they're potentially going to be doing better.

542
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 5: You see, I was to hear, I was expecting to

543
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 5: hear that there had been some precipitous decline in their population.

544
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 5: But the fact that their numbers have remained steady for

545
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: fifty years makes me think that, you know, maybe things

546
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: aren't as bad as the picture isn't as bad as

547
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Speaker 5: as people might be painting.

548
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't think we fully got the scope of it

549
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: talking to Stephanie, but one piece of news I'd seen

550
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: is at like sixty or seventy percent of the calves

551
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: die in the first year, and I think That's the

552
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: thing they're really fighting right now is how can we

553
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: make sure that when a calf is born, which is

554
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: already a lot to ask for, that the thing survives

555
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: to adulthood. So I think that's that's what I mean.

556
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Speaker 5: They have the unforse a fate of living in basically

557
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: an urban marine invitrally, which you know makes things tough.

558
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: All right.

559
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: Moving on, Our next segment is One Minute Fishing.

560
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 9: Do I feel lucky?

561
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 6: We'll do you dunk, go ahead.

562
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: Make my cast.

563
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: One Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone

564
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,

565
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars

566
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: donation to a conservation group and for the whole month

567
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Speaker 3: of April, our friends at Trout Unlimited or joining us

568
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: for one Minute Fishing. This week, our wrangler is Dan Johnson,

569
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Speaker 3: the Desert Terminal Lakes Basin project coordinator at TU. Today

570
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: he's on Hot Creek in California and fishing for a

571
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: donation to Trout Unlimited. Dan, welcome to the show.

572
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 9: Hey, thank you all so much for having us and

573
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 9: for highlighting to you this month and highlighting this this

574
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Speaker 9: beautiful stream bind.

575
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Speaker 3: It is a beautiful place, also a windy place. Now,

576
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Speaker 3: first thing we ask Trout Unlimited to highlight some important

577
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Speaker 3: watersheds across the country for this segment, tell us about

578
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: Hot Creek and its greatest threats.

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Speaker 9: Is a very very unique stream. It starts as Mammoth

580
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 9: Creek up in the eastern Sierras. There flows down. It's

581
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Speaker 9: really small, very narrow as it hits the valley, but

582
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 9: about a couple hundred yards upstream of where I am.

583
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 9: It has a number of geothermal inputs. This hot water

584
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Speaker 9: that comes out, it's actually perfectly in that sixty to

585
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 9: sixty seven degree range that is optimum for trout growth

586
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 9: and you know, longevity and reproduction. But we've been involved

587
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 9: in Hot Creek for a number of years because just

588
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 9: over the hill I can see it from here. There

589
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 9: is a project to start exploratory gold mining right on

590
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 9: just a ways over the banks there. In twenty twenty one,

591
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 9: the company Core Mining, they were awarded permits to drill.

592
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 9: After a huge amount of community backlash and litigation from

593
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 9: other NGOs in the area, those permits were revoked for

594
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 9: the time being. But you know, gold is near all

595
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 9: time highs and we are actually working on a protective

596
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 9: designation for Hot Creek and outstanding National Resource Water, which

597
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 9: we feel would you know, neutralize that mining threat once

598
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Speaker 9: and for all.

599
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Speaker 6: And I mean at Trout Unlimited. We're realists, right.

600
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Speaker 9: I drove a truck here today and it's built out

601
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 9: of things that were pulled out of the ground at

602
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 9: one point. You know, we need mining, we need to

603
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 9: work these landscapes, but also we need places.

604
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Speaker 6: Like Hot Creek.

605
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 9: You know, it's a part of our American tradition. I

606
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 9: actually wrote my father in law in he's my cameraman

607
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 9: today and I come out here with my daughter and yeah,

608
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 9: I try to Unlimited. We're just working to protect the places.

609
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 6: We love to fish.

610
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: We're grateful that TU is involved. Question, Yeah, what do

611
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: you got bro?

612
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 6: Hey Dan?

613
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Speaker 5: What what kind of land are you? Is Hot Creek

614
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: like a public primarily a public river? Are you standing on?

615
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 6: Like?

616
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 5: What land entity manages the land you're standing on right now?

617
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 6: Yeah? So Hot Creek. You know, it's actually interesting.

618
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Speaker 9: We're in the very valley stage of our portion of

619
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Speaker 9: Hot Creek and it ends up going in some pretty

620
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 9: dramatic canyons. It's a mixture of us for a service

621
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Speaker 9: mostly to the across the stream from me the LM

622
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 9: down below. There's also some private property and some some

623
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Speaker 9: tribal trust land as well, So.

624
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Speaker 5: So the fair number of the gold the gold mining

625
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 5: would occur on is the proposal for the gold mining

626
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: to occur on public land.

627
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 6: That's correct on for service like, gotcha?

628
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: Gotcha?

629
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Speaker 3: All right, Dan, let's talk about the fishing. What are

630
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: you targeting today? How are you doing it in? What

631
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: fly are you throwing?

632
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we are.

633
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 6: Hot Creek has and of course I just got stuck

634
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: on it.

635
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 9: Hot Creek has wild populations of ground trout is kind

636
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 9: of the main quarry.

637
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 6: There's also some rainbows.

638
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 9: At this time of the year, none of the really

639
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 9: big stuff is hatching, so I am throwing size eighteen

640
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 9: blueing olive if you can see that, and then a

641
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 9: size twenty zebramage down below, so the real small stuff.

642
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 9: But we did have a hatch going off a bit earlier.

643
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 9: We've been watching fish rise here. I've been, you know,

644
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 9: whispering words reassurance to my tiny flies the last ten

645
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 9: minutes and feeling good about it.

646
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: Okay, have you made to cast yet? Today?

647
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 6: Dan?

648
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 9: I fished a little bit downstream, but we've been trying

649
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 9: to do our best to leave this hole intact and

650
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 9: not you know, not mess with them at all. I

651
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 9: don't think they I don't think they know that we're here.

652
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 9: So this is the one we've been reserving.

653
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: Great, Well, your one minute of fishing starts when you

654
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Speaker 3: make that first cast.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it better. Get in there for someone high

656
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 5: holds your.

657
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Speaker 3: Walk to the edge of the creek. Yoanni, describe what

658
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: you're seeing there?

659
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: Oh, just a beautiful creek. I'd have to just stand

660
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: there and enjoy the view for a while before he

661
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: even wet a line.

662
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Right, all right, he's making his first cast.

663
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: Snow capped mountains dropping into some like deserty up high

664
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Speaker 2: country sage.

665
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: Uh huh. Looks like a place you'd find some some

666
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: Muley's or black tails and some some antelope.

667
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: I like that he's kind of being a purist here,

668
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 5: because if I was going for the one minute, Neil,

669
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 5: I'd probably have a San Juan worm and an egg

670
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 5: on there.

671
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh, did we have a hook set there?

672
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: Then he thinks you did.

673
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: We missed.

674
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: Okay, you're thirty seconds in.

675
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 6: He got he bit the tiny little zebramidge.

676
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: Oh all right, feeling optimistic, burn a lot of time

677
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 3: on that false cast and get it back in the water.

678
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 9: I know, twenty seconds, guys, I gotta I gotta dry

679
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 9: him out.

680
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: Twenty seconds ago, ten seconds left in eat it Uh

681
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: not gonna happen today, Dan, tell us what happened on

682
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: that that one fish that made an offering at your fly?

683
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I could see him. It's actually really clear

684
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 9: water here. So I saw him move for the zebra midge.

685
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 6: And I mean, I hope you all my mind. If

686
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: I keep fishing all the time, I know it doesn't count.

687
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 9: But yeah, he went for he went for the zebra

688
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 9: midge and he just didn't commit to the bite.

689
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 6: And yeah, we'll see.

690
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 9: We're gonna hang out here the rest of the day too,

691
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 9: so maybe i'll maybe I'll text you all the picture too.

692
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: Okay, good work day for you, Dan.

693
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: That's the line. That's the line my clients used to

694
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: always use, like, oh he missed it, like they never

695
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 5: missed the fish.

696
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: That's right.

697
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 9: And if I may real quick, if you're looking to

698
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 9: get involved with Tu's work on public lands, just go

699
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 9: to tu dot org. And we have a little bar

700
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 9: at the top that says take action. We're likely working

701
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 9: in your neck of the woods right now.

702
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: Okay, good message, Dan, thank you for joining us, Good

703
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: luck with fishing the rest of the day, and thanks

704
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: to Trot Unlimited for doing what they do.

705
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: Thanks Dan.

706
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: All Right, we're halfway through the show. Let's take a

707
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: break for some listener feedback. Phil, what do you got?

708
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 7: We've got a question from our producer Corey Colkins. He

709
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 7: asks who's the better golfer, Spencer, Giannis or Brody.

710
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: Ain't me?

711
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: I imagine it's me just because I play the most, But

712
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 3: I am not a good golfer at all. If Yanni

713
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: wanted to go golfing five times this year, he might

714
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: be better than me after those five times. I'm I

715
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: just enjoy the camaraderie of it.

716
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't. We don't need to spend any more

717
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: time on this.

718
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: Corey asked that question because he's the best golfer in

719
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: the office or or top two. So so good for you, man.

720
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: I used to like.

721
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: Corey and then I found out he was a golfer.

722
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: Well, you'll like him even more when I tell you

723
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: this though, he's a phenomenal golfer who doesn't golf. He'll

724
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: go like once a year, and that's good enough for him.

725
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: But if I had Corey, if I had Corey's skills,

726
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 3: I'd be out there even more. But it'd be Corey

727
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: and Colin is the best golfers. What else you got?

728
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: Phil?

729
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 7: Question for Yiannis from Derman? What are you feeding a

730
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 7: top level hunting hound like.

731
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: Mingus scrap hunting hound you described him as earlier.

732
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: I just feed him dog food. Buddy.

733
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 5: If you used to remember your old dog Mud, didn't

734
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: you used to feed her meat?

735
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 9: Oh?

736
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we feed Mingus eat too, some scraps.

737
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: You know. I'll save my trimmings and feed it to them.

738
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, for the most part, we just I varied up.

739
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't feed him the same stuff all the time.

740
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: We're actually gonna switch over to whatever Costco is selling.

741
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: That's what I'm buying next for Mingus, you.

742
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: Know, makes it for Costco. I imagine that.

743
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: I don't image. A couple of people tell me that

744
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: they thought it was good and it was cheap, so

745
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: that works for us. Okay, Yeah, I'm not buying into

746
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: the whole thing that my dog needs to eat the

747
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 2: same diet that I Rashan asks.

748
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 7: And this is for Giannis as well. I'm assuming you

749
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 7: know the answer to this. When's the next meat Eater

750
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 7: roast coming out? I love the first one?

751
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm glad you liked the first one. Shot.

752
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 2: The next one is coming out early May. I don't

753
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: think there is an actual drop date yet, but I

754
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: look for in early May. It's a good one. We

755
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: got Carrine Schneider, Meet your podcast producer and Maggie Hudlow,

756
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: director of website content, squaring off with each other.

757
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 3: I heard they put on an exceptional show. Oh buddy

758
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: made some dooking delicious food coming out in early May.

759
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 7: From Peter, question for Brody and Yanny, what cartridge are

760
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 7: you going to use for your kids when they go

761
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 7: from hunting deer and antelope to elk man?

762
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 5: I started my older son on a two forty three

763
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: and he hunted with that for three, no, four seasons.

764
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 5: Three it was last year, four, last year was four.

765
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: This year he's going to a six y five creed

766
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 5: More and I would be completely comfortable having him shooting

767
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: elk with that cartridge. And he killed nelk with a

768
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: thirty hot six last fall.

769
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, we've been shooting the six to five creed

770
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: More and I imagine we'll stay shooting the six y

771
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: five creed More and just not shoot it too far.

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00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: Let's do one more, Phil oh Man.

773
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Speaker 7: Okay from Eric, how do you guys balance family vacations

774
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 7: and hunting trips? If you have limited time.

775
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 5: Off, you take family vacations that are hunting trips fishing.

776
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: Trip You two boys are pretty good at that.

777
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Yeah. I'd say there's very few hunting

778
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: trips that if they're not work that are you know,

779
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: that are hunting trips or hunting trips without my family.

780
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: So the only one I can think of off the top

781
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: of my head is like, I'm gonna go to Wisconsin

782
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: hunting my dad for a few days for turkeys. But otherwise,

783
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: if it's not a work trip, I'm hunting with my family,

784
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: and otherwise I'm hunting with a camera.

785
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'd definitely do some solo hunting, but

786
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 5: like you know, most of our family vacations involved hunting

787
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: or a lot of fishing too, So.

788
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: You're kind of asking the wrong guys because we get

789
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: to hunt for work sometimes, so we don't actually have

790
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: to balance family vacations and hunting trips because yeah, we

791
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: get to hunt for work sometimes, But yeah, I hope

792
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: that helps Eric.

793
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: Sorry, probably doesn't.

794
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: All right?

795
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: Moving on, our next segment is top threes.

796
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Speaker 1: Yore, trouble over here?

797
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful boy.

798
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: Sure it's so beautiful, Phil. Does the computer have to

799
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: help you hit that high note?

800
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: Or is that all that was? Natural?

801
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: Wonderful?

802
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Natural?

803
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Wow?

804
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: Now this week we are ranking the three biggest fish

805
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: we've ever caught. And to be clear, it's not literally

806
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: the biggest. It's the biggest relative to other fish of

807
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 3: that species. So you know, for today's show, it would

808
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: be more relevant if you caught a two and a

809
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: half pound blue gill than if you caught a thirty

810
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: pound tarpin. Is the three biggest fish we've caught relative

811
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: to other fish of that species? Bro, do you go first?

812
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: What's the third biggest fish you've ever caught?

813
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: We need the picture because I can't remember at what

814
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: order I put him in?

815
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, big old trout.

816
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: That that's a big old whopper. That's the third biggest fish.

817
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 5: Spencer wants me to say, that's the third biggest fish

818
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: I've ever caught. Huh, Then I can talk about it,

819
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 5: that's right, Yeah, talk about it. Tell us about it. Well,

820
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 5: it's a big ass rainbow trout. Look how young you were?

821
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: How old were you?

822
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: Man?

823
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: That was probably like twenty ish now, well maybe maybe

824
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 5: like seventeen years ago, let's say.

825
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so how old?

826
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 5: I don't know you like late or mid mid thirties.

827
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know you were ever in your mid thirties.

828
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I wasn't born fifty three years old.

829
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: Now is that pellet hitter that or is that not?

830
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: That's not well, I mean.

831
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 5: Not on the river. I don't think it was on

832
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 5: the river that it was caught on.

833
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: How big was that fish? For people who aren't watching.

834
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 5: This again, Spencer and I were talking about this earlier.

835
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 5: I don't generally don't carry a tape measure around with

836
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: me or a scale, but that fish was over thirty like,

837
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 5: I'm guessing thirty two ish, And it was caught this

838
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 5: time year in the spring. So it's a female full

839
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 5: of egg, so I'm guessing twelve.

840
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: She's got a big old belly on twelve pound dish. Yeah,

841
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: what were you doing when you caught that fish?

842
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

843
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: What was I?

844
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: Like?

845
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 3: What fly were you throwing?

846
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: I caught it on an egg? Big old egg? Pattern.

847
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: Was that a good day for you fishing?

848
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, can you tell us the river? Is that?

849
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: Sure?

850
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 5: It was the Roaring Fort.

851
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: Oh, it kind of tailed off at the end. Then

852
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: it felt like you were regretting telling us that's.

853
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: Not a secret.

854
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 8: Man.

855
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: There's probably twenty boats on the Roaring Fort today.

856
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you ever going to top that trout? Or

857
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: is that a once in a life time fish?

858
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 6: I don't know.

859
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 5: I don't I don't have a crystal ball for trout.

860
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 5: That may be it because I just don't do that

861
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: kind of fishing as nearly as much as I used to.

862
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: But who knows. Anything could happen.

863
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: All right, Yanna, you're next.

864
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Well, the third biggest fish I ever caught was say

865
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: it is? You want me to say this fish?

866
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 6: Yeah?

867
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: Yes, whatever fish is on the screen that you're talking about.

868
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: I labeled them wrong. I was gonna finish with this one.

869
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 2: Oh see, I think you you you labeled it number three.

870
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: Probably be that you wanted to be shown.

871
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: But I can't believe how hard this segment is.

872
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: All right, so we told you you had problems before

873
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: we started. This is a sailfish that I caught recently

874
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: down in Guatemala, but tape measure out for that one. No, no, no,

875
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: I pulled one out of the water sailfish. I showed

876
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: you guys a picture of that on an earlier episode,

877
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: and uh, a couple of folks remind me that you

878
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: shouldn't take those fish out of the water, really increase mortality.

879
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: So uh, yeah it was. Uh, I've only caught a

880
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: few sailfish. They were all roughly the same size to me.

881
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: And uh, you caught that one on a flypole though, well.

882
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was exactly that one that

883
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: I caught on the fly rod, but uh, yeah it was.

884
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: It was a great trip. We had three anglers. We

885
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: all caught quite a few of those sailfish and uh,

886
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: beautiful place, beautiful water, rough seas though rough.

887
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: Seas, did you yeah, you were you getting a.

888
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: Little No, I was wearing the patch. Yeah I was good.

889
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: But those guys you can see, they're the guy on

890
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: the left is Zan and my brother in law. They

891
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: decided on day three that they were all good with

892
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: the patch and they didn't wear one on day three

893
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: and it caught them.

894
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 3: How did they take that picture?

895
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: GoPro on a stick?

896
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 3: Good looking photo? Good looking fish.

897
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they know what they're doing. We're fishing with

898
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: the selfish lodge of quite a mala. I don't know.

899
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: Dm me on Instagram if you want to know more

900
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: about them. A great outfit, all right.

901
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: The third biggest fish I ever caught is this perch?

902
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: Now that that I got a tape measure under it,

903
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: Like Brody was saying, I did have a tape measure

904
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: with me. I was fourteen and a quarter inches. It

905
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: was two pounds exactly. I was south, it was in

906
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: South Dakota. It was twenty twelve. I was fishing by

907
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: myself that day. I was pulling plugs for Walleye. Did

908
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: not expect to find that fish in that place. There's

909
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: not a lot of perch in that lake where I

910
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: caught that.

911
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 5: Oh it gets me excited. Spencer, that's my favorite fish.

912
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: And he hit a number five rupaula shad rap. And

913
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: when perch get to that size, everything just looks wrong,

914
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: Like they developed shoulders that they don't normally have that

915
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: hump on their back. Yep, their their fins look too small.

916
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: You start to they like they look so lethargic. The

917
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: You're like, how is that thing staying well? Fed enough

918
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 3: to grow to that size. But then you're reminded when

919
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 3: you're pulling plugs for walleye and it smashes a shad

920
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: rap that you'd expect, you know, only larger fish to

921
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: be keeping up with. And then I got another picture.

922
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 5: Did you eat him?

923
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: No?

924
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: I threw that one back. Two years later I caught

925
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: another fourteen inch or that one also weighed two pounds

926
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: through that fish back as well. It was it was

927
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: almost the same place, same time of year, same like,

928
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: doing the same thing, pulling plugs for walleyes hooked into

929
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: a big old perch. You can see pictures of these

930
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: fish on our meat eater.

931
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 5: You let those spencer.

932
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: That's okay. You know what I've like since I've gotten older.

933
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: If I were to catch that fish today, it's probably

934
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: more likely I would keep it. But then I felt

935
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: like I was I was really doing the Lord's work

936
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: letting a fourteen inch perch go. But now I realized

937
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 3: that like that thing probably had a year life left

938
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: on it, that there was no harm in me keeping

939
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: that big old perch in the middle of the good

940
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: fish sandwich right there, all right, bro To, you're up next, Okay,

941
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: I don't remember, oh, the second biggest fish I've ever caught.

942
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 5: Now that this is a link cod, Oh, I'm supposed

943
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 5: to wait for that.

944
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: So this is a whole segment is a mess. Do

945
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 3: whatever you like.

946
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 5: That well, link cod get can get quite a bit

947
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 5: bigger than this. The reason I put this one in

948
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: here is because at the time I caught that up

949
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 5: around Steve Shack, that was as big of a link

950
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 5: cod as you could keep legally. Oh, that's why it's there.

951
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: And how big is it?

952
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: The slot that year was thirty to forty five inches,

953
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: so it was it was like forty three forty four.

954
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 5: It's hard to get an exact measurement in the bottom

955
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 5: one of those skiffs. You can hang them and measure them,

956
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: but it was it was just under the slot. So

957
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 5: that's that's a good one. And now like that slot

958
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: has gotten progressively smaller every year, so you wouldn't be

959
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 5: able to keep that thing anymore.

960
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 3: So how much bigger are the bigger ones that you've

961
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: caught than this one.

962
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 5: There's actually a second slot in that part of Alaska,

963
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: and it's fifty five and over, and no fish ever

964
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 5: seen one of those. They got to be down there somewhere,

965
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 5: but they can get they can get five feet long

966
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: fifty pounds. But that's a pretty good one beautiful fish.

967
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: There, y your next, well, Spencer. The second biggest fish

968
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: I've ever caught is that big old red fish is

969
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 2: a big red fish also known as a bull drum

970
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: that was caught off the coast of North Carolina with

971
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: my wife's cousin, Captain rob Or also had my brother

972
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 2: in law and his son with him. Was a great eat.

973
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: We went out for like the night bite, so it

974
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: didn't start fishing until it pretty much got dark, and

975
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: we were fishing a shoal with just some cut bait,

976
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: pretty simple, and we basically made three casts and we

977
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: each got to catch a redfish roughly that size, and

978
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: it was quite the tussle.

979
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: The head on that thing.

980
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: Oh, it's amazing, Yeah, the head and shoulders. And you know,

981
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: that's why I love these days being a freshwater angler

982
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 2: for so many years and then doing more salt water

983
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: in the latter part of my life. These fish just

984
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: they fight, yeah, you know, they actually pulled back, which

985
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 2: is what I enjoy so much. Where you know, the trout,

986
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's more of a finesse game. To get

987
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: them to the net. But like that joker, you just

988
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: don't know if you're going to actually win the win

989
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: the battle there. But that one we did release.

990
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, are even allowed to keep them that big in

991
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: North Carolina?

992
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: You know that fish is probably that fish is definitely

993
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: out of the slot. So yeah, beautiful.

994
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: Fish, thank you again. Like the proportions when fish get

995
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: this big for their species, the head, yeah is just unbelievable.

996
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can imagine that thing doesn't run away for much.

997
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: It's things. Most of most things are running away from

998
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: it in that giant mouth.

999
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: All right.

1000
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: The second biggest fish I ever caught is this northern

1001
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: pike that Phil is showing us a photo of. Now,

1002
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 3: that was in twenty fourteen. I was senior in college

1003
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: at that point. That was the biggest pike I had

1004
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: ever caught. I was by myself pulling plugs for walleye.

1005
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: He was just under forty inches. And then three years later,

1006
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, I caught a bigger one that then

1007
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 3: became my biggest fitter.

1008
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 5: I thought that the three biggest fish, the sixth biggest.

1009
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: Well, so I'm just giving you some context this This

1010
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: pike then was forty two inches. He weighed just over

1011
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 3: twenty pounds. He ate a number seven rapaula bleeding olive

1012
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: minto wrap, which is a plug they don't even make anymore.

1013
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 3: They have they have minnow body crank baits, but they

1014
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: don't make that specific one anymore. And I was again

1015
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: pulling plugs by myself. This was twenty seventeen. I was

1016
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: in the same light doing the same thing when I

1017
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 3: when I caught that other pike. Let both of those

1018
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 3: fish go that that.

1019
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 5: Got a big old gouge and it's back from another

1020
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 5: pike or something.

1021
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. That was fun that. You know,

1022
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: we were just talking about actually getting the fight a fish,

1023
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: getting to fight a twenty pound pike that doesn't even compare, dude,

1024
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: like you know the walleye that I was actually targeting

1025
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: that day. So that was my second biggest fish ever,

1026
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: forty two inch pike, just over twenty pounds. All right,

1027
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: we're at our biggest fish brody for the.

1028
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 5: Biggest one ever. Now, when do I wait for this

1029
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 5: noise to come in?

1030
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: Phil, here's what you do? What kind of fish is that?

1031
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 5: Tell me, well, that's the biggest fish I've ever caught,

1032
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 5: and it's a cocony.

1033
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 9: Sam.

1034
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: So here's what you do. You say, the biggest fish

1035
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: I ever caught is this cocony salmon, and then Phil

1036
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: plays the buoy.

1037
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 5: Gotcha?

1038
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: Yep, okay, great, great job. Now tell us about it.

1039
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 5: That's a cocony salmon, which is a landlocked version of

1040
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 5: a sake salmon, or they call him red salmon Alaska.

1041
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: In most places where there's cocony fisheries freshwater cocony lake

1042
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 5: fisheries in the mostly in the Western United States, those

1043
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 5: things are like twelve inches long. People love fishing for

1044
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 5: them because they're good to eat. That that thing's is

1045
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 5: like a monster for a cocaonee, And it's like maybe

1046
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 5: pushing five pounds or so. I didn't measure it, but

1047
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 5: you know, it's like, yeah, I kept it. I think

1048
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 5: it was somewhere twenty two to twenty four inches. I

1049
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 5: don't know exactly, but that's like for the species, that's

1050
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 5: an extremely large cocaine.

1051
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: See what were you doing when you caught that perch

1052
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 3: fishing buddy? Oh? Was that the only cocony you caught?

1053
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 5: That the only one we caught that?

1054
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: Wow, it just happened to get I never.

1055
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: Caught a cocone. You ever caught a cocaine?

1056
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: No? Never, Although I don't know how many times I've

1057
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: even been in a lake that had coconine. It's been

1058
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: pretty rare in my fishing days. That's that's a special fish.

1059
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like it was. It was good eating too,

1060
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 5: It's very good eating.

1061
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: All right, Yanna, you're.

1062
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: Up, all right? The biggest fish I've ever caught, which

1063
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: was just supposed to be my third biggest fish, but

1064
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. And I actually didn't even personally catch

1065
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: this fish. My girl Lindsey, Yeah. Do you remember Lindsay's

1066
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: last name?

1067
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 5: Meyer?

1068
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: Meyer? Yeah, Lindsay. And what was your husband try.

1069
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 5: To steal one of my clients for a little while?

1070
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: No, successfully did or not?

1071
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. They fished with me for a while.

1072
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I left town, so Brody got him back,

1073
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: I guess. But Lindsay and Jim, they were the classic

1074
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: example of I.

1075
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 7: Still don't think we said the kind of fish.

1076
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a rainbow trout, very similar to Brody's third

1077
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: biggest fish.

1078
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 9: Huh.

1079
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: And classic example these two. She always was in the

1080
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: back and was like, Oh, I'm really not that into fishing.

1081
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: I'm just here for the views and the good time,

1082
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: and Jim would be fairly serious about it, but really

1083
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: she wasn't serious.

1084
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 5: Man, She got real serious with me after a while.

1085
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: U must have been a better I put her on

1086
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: a bunch of fish like this. She got serious, but

1087
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: she would listen to what the guide was saying. Jim

1088
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: would well, not that Jim wouldn't, but she did a

1089
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: much better job of listening, and so she would always

1090
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: outfish Jim from the back of the boat. But it

1091
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: was interesting about this particular deal. Is this on the

1092
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: Colorado River, and it was early season, water was still

1093
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: on the high side, and we'd had a particularly big

1094
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: runoff year, and fish like that weren't normal ever on

1095
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: this section of the Colorado River. And all of a sudden,

1096
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: I think it was I think I was with another boat, actually,

1097
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 2: and I want to say, we floated through this pretty slow,

1098
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: deep hole and both boats hook up with these giant fish,

1099
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, and it as a guide, You're like, oh

1100
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: my gosh, you know, what is that thing coming up

1101
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: underneath the boat? So Leviathan, so you kind of do

1102
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: anything and everything you can to land of fish like that.

1103
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: Lots of pictures and those fish hung out in that

1104
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: hole and in that area for quite some time. And

1105
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: whoever I was with, I remember being like, dude, we

1106
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: cannot tell anybody else because everybody's going to want to

1107
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: float through this section just to hit this one hole.

1108
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: Uh huh. The best we could figure is that there

1109
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: was a tributary near there. The best we could figure

1110
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: that there was probably a stocked pond upstream on that

1111
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 2: tributary and it probably got blown out and then these

1112
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: fishes swam down the tributary and got dumped into the river.

1113
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: So this was a short lived experience.

1114
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 6: The pigs.

1115
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, in my experience, I don't know. Again,

1116
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have a tape on me. I can't remember.

1117
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it was quite thirty inches, but you

1118
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: know it's probably close. But yeah, just in I mean,

1119
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: that fish is like more than double the size of

1120
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: the average travel we would catch that when you.

1121
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 3: Hooked into it, was there any question as to what

1122
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 3: it could be like? Did you know this is a

1123
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: big old rainbow?

1124
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 10: Ummm?

1125
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could look into a big

1126
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 2: mountain white fish that would but it wouldn't be that big.

1127
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: But eventually you get a look at it. You know,

1128
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: but when the rods is bent over a double and

1129
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: it's sitting down deep, yeah, you don't know what it is.

1130
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 5: And usually if your float fishing, especially with a client

1131
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: that hasn't fought a lot of big trout like that,

1132
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 5: you got to follow him around in the boat for

1133
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 5: a while.

1134
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the cool thing. Like as the guide in

1135
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: rowing a boat, you're almost doing as much fighting as

1136
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: the angler is because you're flipping the boat around, positioning

1137
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: it and then obviously fighting the current and you know,

1138
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: trying to stay in that slow water because nothing worse

1139
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: When you got a tank like that on and then

1140
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: you got to like row through a riffle or a

1141
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: small rapid, you know, shit can go wrong real quick.

1142
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 5: I can tell you that that Jannis did a very

1143
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 5: good job of releasing that fish in good shape, because

1144
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 5: our buddy Alvin Dedo had a client catch.

1145
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: It like a week later. I do you know the

1146
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: same one and picture?

1147
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it had to be.

1148
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: But there was a couple of fish. I think we're

1149
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: in that hole beautiful trout all right.

1150
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: Biggest fish I've ever caught is this paddlefish. Now, this

1151
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 3: is sort of cheating because I was working for the

1152
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: US Fish and Wildlife Service. That's a picture of my

1153
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: boss that I took of him. This was right after

1154
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: I graduated college. I worked at this fish hatchery and

1155
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 3: we raised a lot of things, but primarily pallid sturgeon

1156
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: and paddlefish.

1157
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: And we raised that dude is not you, that's not me,

1158
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: that he has a remarkable resemblance to you.

1159
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: He's not me. That was.

1160
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: That was my old boss, Craig. So this was this

1161
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: was twenty fifteen. We we would provide all of the

1162
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 3: paddlefish that were stocked in South Dakota's reservoirs, and so

1163
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: to do that, we'd have to go out and net

1164
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: adult paddlefish, bring them back to our hatchery, take their eggs,

1165
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: take their melt, raise the young, and then at the

1166
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: end of the summer early fall, we would release these

1167
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: twelve inch posing To get those things, this big old

1168
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: drift nets, just like one hundred foot long drift nets

1169
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: had had holes in them or if it was big

1170
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: enough for a paddlefish to swim in and get stuck

1171
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: like bill net stuck or because that would kill him,

1172
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't they Well you're grabbing them asat Yeah, So this

1173
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: day it was just me and Craig on the boat.

1174
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: He was running the boat, I was running the nets.

1175
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: That paddlefish was just short of seven feet long in

1176
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: a weigh one hundred and twenty nine pounds, which would

1177
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: have broken the state record at the time, and she

1178
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: gave us hundreds of thousands of eggs. We released her

1179
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: about a month later. None of these people in this

1180
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: picture or me either, but this shows us taking her

1181
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: eggs after we gave her a hormone shot. And that

1182
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: took three adult men just to handle this one fish,

1183
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: and then another person to capture the eggs.

1184
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 5: How old is that fish?

1185
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: So that fish, it came from Lake Francis Case, which

1186
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: is a reservoir, and any adults that we were catching

1187
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: in that time that big were born before the dams

1188
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: were put in. That dam was put in in nineteen

1189
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: fifty two. That fish was sixty five plus years old

1190
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: when we caught it. I'll never see another fish of

1191
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: that size, and my boss and I were absolutely thrilled.

1192
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: I remember feeling like such a badass that day when

1193
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: we got back to the boat dock that the two

1194
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 3: of us had did that, and I remember backing the

1195
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: boat down the boat dock and turn on the radio

1196
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: and Tom Petties won't back down his playing, and I

1197
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: cranked that up and we were so thrilled. We went

1198
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 3: into Chamberlaine that night drank our faces off.

1199
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 6: Man.

1200
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 3: We were excited. That was a once in a lifetime fish.

1201
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: I caught it using nets that didn't catch it on

1202
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 3: a rodden reel. But I'll never forget that, old girl.

1203
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 3: There we go. Those are the three biggest fish we've

1204
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 3: ever caught. We're gonna figure out that segment someday. Six

1205
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: months into this show where we're still working out some kinks.

1206
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 7: Yea, let's give it nine.

1207
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: Okay, moving on, This is our last segment of the day.

1208
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: Joining us on the line last is James Kane and

1209
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: Barbie Augustini. They are magnet fishermen from New York City

1210
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: who had a life changing catch last year. James, Welcome

1211
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: to the show.

1212
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 4: What's going on?

1213
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: Guys?

1214
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having Barbie is actually away

1215
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 10: at the moment where a little stomach issue.

1216
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: Okay, he'll be back, all right. How I broke here?

1217
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 4: How you doing?

1218
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 3: What's up?

1219
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: Bro?

1220
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: All right?

1221
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 6: First day?

1222
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 3: For those not familiar, explain what magnet.

1223
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 10: Fishing is so magnet fishing where you take a giant

1224
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 10: magnet this size, you know what I mean, You put

1225
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 10: on a string and you throw it in the water

1226
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 10: that's lit and you and you're waiting for the fight,

1227
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 10: like you guys.

1228
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: The click, the click.

1229
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 4: Okay, you can feel it.

1230
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: I like that.

1231
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: Now hold on.

1232
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: I got more questions about that this part, because you're

1233
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: gonna move on. Go ahead. Are you dragging it? Are

1234
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: you moving it? Are you changing cast locations? Like how

1235
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: power click? If there's a piece of metal it's five

1236
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: feet away from that magnet, will it pull it over

1237
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: to it? Or do you need to land it right

1238
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: on top of it?

1239
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 10: The fairest connection point to uh, to these giant magnets

1240
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 10: you think would be that big, but actually it's more

1241
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 10: like especially when you're on the water, I think the

1242
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 10: pull the pull this is maybe five to six inches

1243
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 10: at max. So you do have to change location. You

1244
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 10: have to throw like you're still high school softball, So

1245
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 10: you got to.

1246
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 4: Throw it as far as you can. That's that's the secret.

1247
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: No one's gonna tell you.

1248
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 11: Let's one rip, Let's see your throat. We're getting to

1249
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 11: that at the end. He said, no, no, no, yeah, James

1250
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 11: hold on. At the end of the call, he's gonna

1251
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 11: show us how it's done. We're gonna learn more about

1252
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 11: magnet fishing. First though, what got you into magnet fishing?

1253
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: Uh?

1254
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: So, believe it or not. Uh, my family and I

1255
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: were very bored uh during COVID and we started watching videos.

1256
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 10: I always wanted to do treasure hunting as a little kid,

1257
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 10: but never had the background education, never had the financials

1258
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 10: to go on a boat and the gear and this

1259
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 10: and that. And then I saw someone putting a magnet

1260
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 10: on the water on a string on on YouTube.

1261
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 4: There are other channels down south that actually do it

1262
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 4: quite often. Uh, And I said, you know what, let's

1263
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: try this. My kids were like, you're not gonna do it.

1264
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: You don't do nothing.

1265
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 10: So I actual we took the challenge and we went

1266
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 10: to our local pond and uh, yeah, it's all all

1267
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 10: goes from there.

1268
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: How much does the gear cost to get going and

1269
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: magnet fishing?

1270
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 10: So the rope is twenty bucks for like one hundred

1271
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 10: feet twenty thirty bucks.

1272
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: The magnets we're the level we're at now is a

1273
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 4: lot more powerful.

1274
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 10: So we have magnets that range from two to three

1275
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 10: hundred dollars when you when you first want to start,

1276
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 10: you can go on Amazon and spend thirty forty bucks

1277
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 10: just to see what it's like.

1278
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 4: So you don't have to, you know, to drop three

1279
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: hund's on a freaking giant powerful magnet.

1280
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 10: You can still get stuff with the low powered magnets,

1281
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 10: but when you become obsessed, you want.

1282
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 4: You want the good stuff. Hull fall. Yeah, and what kind.

1283
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: Of areas do you typically target when you're magnet fishing?

1284
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 10: So when we first started, we were just going to

1285
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 10: any bodies of water. Now I tend to look for

1286
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 10: so we're obviously we're in the middle of New York City,

1287
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 10: so anybody of water that there's a lot.

1288
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: Of foot traffic and houses and roads nearby.

1289
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 10: That's when people toss this stuf right out the right

1290
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 10: out the cars, and that's the best spot to go.

1291
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes dangerous neighborhoods is the best spots.

1292
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: To love that. Now, normally when we're talking about fishing,

1293
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: we want to go where people are not but not

1294
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: not magnet fishermen.

1295
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Do you use any sort of mapping apps like on

1296
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: x too, maybe scalot areas.

1297
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 10: Google maps, Google Maps, and then I sometimes you can

1298
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 10: find Google historical maps. I like to do research on

1299
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 10: the locations that we're in, and there's sometimes historical items

1300
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 10: you can find by using the older maps as well.

1301
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: That's good. Now, what are some of the most common maps.

1302
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: What are the most common things that you hook while

1303
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: magnet fishing?

1304
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 10: Bottle caps, rebar, rebar and nails, tons of rebar.

1305
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1306
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 10: I guess when they're constructing or whatever they do, and

1307
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 10: the guys are to the people are done.

1308
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 4: They uh huh.

1309
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: And do you ever get skunked or you're always catching something?

1310
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 4: We have gotten stumped, scumped, skunked a couple of times. Yeah, definitely.

1311
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 10: In high salty areas like on we have our Bay

1312
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 10: areas which mix into the East River over here in

1313
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 10: New York City. Something about the tides, which you know,

1314
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 10: I don't I don't fish. Maybe you guys can even

1315
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 10: explain that a little more. But when the tides are

1316
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 10: moving fast, the stuff is taken out into the ocean.

1317
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 10: So you don't get nothing on the island in Brooklyn,

1318
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 10: off the piers, you're not going to get nothing unless

1319
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 10: it's really heavy.

1320
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 4: The salt eating it up and the tides taking it out.

1321
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: Now, besides the safe that we'll get to in a

1322
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: little bit. What are some of the most unusual catches

1323
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 3: that you've had?

1324
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 4: What I can say on here, I don't know. I

1325
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 4: usually believe or not. I tell people when they're when

1326
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 4: they're watching.

1327
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 10: I used to say, oh, you never imagine what you

1328
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 10: can get, But now I tell them, you ce crazy.

1329
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 4: What you can't imagine is going to be to be

1330
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 4: on that.

1331
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So guns, how many guns have you caught in

1332
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: the two years?

1333
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: We're almost on two years. We found about thirty five

1334
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 4: my goods, Yeah, crazy, thirty five guns.

1335
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 5: What are you doing with those when you find What

1336
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 5: are you doing with those when you find them? Are

1337
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 5: you contacting law enforcement or throwing them back in or what?

1338
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1339
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 10: Dude, yeah, I used to think to call nine were one,

1340
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 10: nine to one one right away. Now we actually I

1341
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 10: try to call precincts. Yeah, and then the precincts precints.

1342
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 4: I'll tell you know. You got to call nine one one, And.

1343
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 10: I was like, it's not too much in an emergency,

1344
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 10: I have we have all the guns we have at

1345
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 10: the pump times we find grenades, do you have to call?

1346
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 4: I'm a New Yorker and my brother's a new Arker. Yeah,

1347
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: it's impossible.

1348
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 10: It's nearly impossible to get up any kind of firearm

1349
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 10: license and you want to get called one not in

1350
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 10: New York City?

1351
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah nothing.

1352
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 5: Have you ever?

1353
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: Have you ever learned about the history of one of

1354
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: those guns, like what crime it was used in, or

1355
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 3: who owned it or anything like that.

1356
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: In the beginning, I was believe or not I was.

1357
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 4: I was actually scared, you know, I was nervous, Like

1358
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 4: I wasn't brought up around firearms. I'm not don't have

1359
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: a military background. Uh So I was nervous at first, like, oh,

1360
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 4: real gun, what am I gonna do?

1361
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 10: And then I find out in the future that there

1362
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 10: is Like you said, there are stories with them, and

1363
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 10: we have found some that are so fresh that were

1364
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 10: used only a week ago. And then your research and

1365
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 10: you find out wout this person passed away, this young

1366
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 10: person passed away, And sometimes detectives will actually call us

1367
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 10: with possible subpoenis to.

1368
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: Go to court. Yeah, I could get a little I

1369
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 4: think it's weird.

1370
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: I got a little weird.

1371
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 4: I choose sort of not to follow them.

1372
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 10: But there are other magnificiers that want to know the

1373
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 10: history and actually who's going to jail and who's what

1374
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 10: crime you think gets all from it?

1375
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 4: But I'm sure we helped out a lot of people.

1376
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 3: A lot so other weird things that you've caught, Anything

1377
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: really historic, anything really old.

1378
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, we got we got a World War two

1379
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 10: grenade confirmed by the bomb the bomb squad. And she said,

1380
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 10: baby Brooklyn, Yeah, we have two grape shot canniballs Inci

1381
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 10: Park and City. Before the park was made, there was

1382
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 10: a garrison's there for the War of eighteen twelve. You know,

1383
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 10: it didn't happen over too much over there, but they

1384
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,479
Speaker 10: would practice over there.

1385
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: So we got those and some.

1386
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 10: Really really old horseshoes on the valley stream. We must

1387
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 10: have like a three three hundred year old horseshoe. The coins,

1388
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 10: a lot of coins. You know, other countries coins are

1389
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 10: all magnetic. So in America the only magnetic coin is

1390
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 10: the forty three penny. So I haven't got one yet.

1391
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: It's a goal.

1392
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's talk about.

1393
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 2: About hold on. What happens when you latch onto something

1394
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: that is too big to yank out, Like you know

1395
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 2: it's there because you you've got the click, but it

1396
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: ain't budget. What do you do?

1397
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 4: Uh? What I like to call it is you gotta

1398
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 4: jerk it off. You just gotta you gotta take it

1399
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 4: right off the back. You gotta really hard, yeah, go

1400
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 4: of it. Yeah yeah, because when it's because these things

1401
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 4: are grab right hard. It didn't work out to a

1402
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 4: big safe. Actually a lot of stafs in New York

1403
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 4: City as well.

1404
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about what happened last year on

1405
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 3: May thirty. First, tell us where you were at and

1406
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: what you caught.

1407
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 4: So we were actually in.

1408
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 10: A park called Flushing, Flushing Queens of Corona Park, and

1409
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 10: we were throwing over there. This is like my second

1410
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 10: time over there, and we do have we have found safe.

1411
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 10: It's just like this one you're watching.

1412
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: Clicked onto it and I was like, oh, it's just

1413
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 4: gonna be another safe.

1414
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 10: And I stick my fingers in the hole and I

1415
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 10: feel something mushy.

1416
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 4: Which really sounds weird, but it was sacks of bills.

1417
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 10: And in my mind, I'm scared right away at this point,

1418
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 10: Like when I feel the money, I'm nervous because it's

1419
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 10: no way.

1420
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep it, you know what I mean. And

1421
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 4: I was like, Babe, I just want to get some knee.

1422
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: We're gonna go for pizza. We're gonna grab something you

1423
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 4: know good. But the money is so bad. The money

1424
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 4: is so mush and slush.

1425
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah you can.

1426
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 4: And I'm just going crazy right now my mind.

1427
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: You can see this video of James catching this safe

1428
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: and going through it on our YouTube channel right now.

1429
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: So after you reel in the safe, the police had

1430
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 3: to get involved. What was that process, like.

1431
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 4: Believe it or not?

1432
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 10: To this day we get ranked on like why we

1433
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 10: actually contacted the NYPD and aosle in New York City

1434
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 10: that anything over one hundred dollars are supposed to call

1435
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 10: in and uh, we're trying to, you know, get.

1436
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: Our channel out there. I'm trying to do whatever I can.

1437
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 10: Maybe some and lost it and if they can get

1438
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 10: their money back, I would, yo, do here's your money,

1439
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 10: let me get like a hundred bucks. But the police

1440
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 10: were in shock as well. They didn't believe any of it.

1441
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 10: They didn't believe it. Then a whole squad comes down

1442
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 10: if you watch.

1443
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 4: Jors the other of our video, and they actually gave us.

1444
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 10: The money and and FBI got involved in the same

1445
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 10: thing as well and did their investigation. Took a few hours,

1446
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 10: and we walked off with all the money in a

1447
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 10: zip u bag.

1448
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 3: Amazing, So it is determined, go ahead.

1449
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I'm surprised it was only

1450
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: a couple hours and then you literally walked away that

1451
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 2: day with that mundy money.

1452
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I was in shock as well. We had

1453
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 4: to go to Washington, DC.

1454
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we got to keep the money. And for

1455
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 3: those who aren't watching on YouTube, those stacks of bills

1456
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 3: were covered in a black sludge from being underwater so long.

1457
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: So how do you go about turning those filthy bills

1458
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: into usable currency?

1459
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 10: So the process is done in Bureau of Engraving and

1460
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 10: Printing Printing in Washington, DC. We did some research, they

1461
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 10: found out what happened. They we went right on the bus.

1462
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 10: Times Square took a megabus right to DC and went

1463
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 10: to the Engraving and Printing and them the money. They

1464
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 10: explained to us the process. We didn't get to see

1465
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 10: too much of the lab and how they do that.

1466
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,440
Speaker 10: But it's all going to be put back together.

1467
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 4: Piece by piece. Even the money we didn't it didn't

1468
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 4: bring because there was more in the safe that was

1469
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 4: just tiny obliterated pieces. They said we should have brought

1470
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 4: it because they can put it all they wanted to

1471
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 4: scoop out. Then they can put it all back together.

1472
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: It's going to take about two and a half years.

1473
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 4: We have zero sense at all. Then we have one

1474
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 4: group of people that do it.

1475
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was.

1476
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 10: Only like seven people that do it for the entire

1477
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 10: America put all the money.

1478
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. Takes a long time.

1479
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 10: And how much How much money was it? They estimated

1480
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 10: between fifty to eighty thousand.

1481
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: Only okay only only only now during this process with

1482
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 3: the police and the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, have

1483
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 3: you learned anything about the origins of the safe, like

1484
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 3: how old it is or is that still a mystery?

1485
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 10: I can only go on by, honestly, by the bills

1486
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 10: that were in there. We had some as far back

1487
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 10: as two thousand and seven and two thousand and nine.

1488
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 4: They had the magnetic strip in so I think the

1489
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 4: oldest bill is like two thousand and nine.

1490
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 3: Honestly, Oh no, not that old.

1491
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,879
Speaker 4: It looks like it's been at for barnacle throwing the crazy.

1492
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're you're still like two years away from

1493
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: getting this cash back though, give or take.

1494
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 10: They said it could take up to two and a

1495
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 10: half years, so it could be any day now, all right,

1496
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 10: you know, well James, Barbie.

1497
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 3: Now James is standing at the pond where he caught

1498
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: the safe and he's got his Magbie on here. Now,

1499
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 3: Oh what's up Barbie? So James is standing at the pond,

1500
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 3: he's got his magnet. Can you show us how it's done.

1501
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: See if there's any treasure left in that bit of water?

1502
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 4: They got the we're gonna take.

1503
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 10: I'm gonna take a big toss with the ten nine

1504
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 10: pound magnet here.

1505
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: Okay.

1506
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 4: I like to throw like I'm still in high school

1507
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 4: playing playing baseball. Uh huh.

1508
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 10: Basically you just some people could swing however they want.

1509
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 10: I like to swing like we're playing baseball.

1510
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 3: So, okay, have you gotten better at this James over

1511
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 3: the years, dude.

1512
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 4: Yes, challenge me. That's what I'm saying.

1513
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 10: As far as I and I'm actually known for that,

1514
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 10: I actually want a belt title, actually leather championship belt

1515
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 10: for the longest toss in so far.

1516
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,839
Speaker 3: Okay, what a tree we're gonna see the world champion

1517
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 3: magnet thrower. Give it a toss.

1518
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: Do your thing, James.

1519
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna throw that car because I don't have

1520
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 10: that much, bro.

1521
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 3: Johann, he could throw farther than that.

1522
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 4: Oh I can.

1523
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 3: I don't have my phone, okay, okay, so what do

1524
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 3: you what do you think you might grab in there?

1525
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 3: Maybe some nails, like you talked about.

1526
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 10: We're in the New York are in the middle of New

1527
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 10: York City, so it's probably gonna be a weapon.

1528
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 4: Could be it could be a fire arm, it could

1529
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 4: be a tone clipper.

1530
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 9: Sure.

1531
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 3: Now, if you were really a good guest, James, you'd

1532
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 3: have planted a handgun in the water for us or something.

1533
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1534
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 4: Right, we don't do any of that.

1535
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So you've got the magnet back to shore.

1536
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 4: Usually something.

1537
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 3: Okay, see what we got is.

1538
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: That a car park?

1539
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 10: It is looks like it's one of the New York

1540
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 10: City fire light posts.

1541
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 6: Light bulb.

1542
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so.

1543
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 4: Got some ice breakers. I don't know why.

1544
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: Something in there?

1545
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 4: Uh huh. Let's see what's in the ice breakers?

1546
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1547
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: And then yeah, that that went so fast, James, can

1548
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 3: you give it another toss for us? Let's see what

1549
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 3: else we can catch.

1550
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 7: Okay, I can clear the rest of our schedule.

1551
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you guys got going on today's Okay,

1552
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: what do you do with when it's just straight garbage

1553
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: that you catch.

1554
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 10: Uh, we collect all the garbage and a bucket, and

1555
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 10: then we disposed with all the receptor.

1556
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, all right, James is gonna give a.

1557
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: Second toss, really.

1558
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 3: Really, uh, put your body into this one. I want

1559
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: to see how far you can throw that thing. Okay,

1560
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: he's he's given himself more line. He's confident that this

1561
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: thing is going to touch the other shoreline.

1562
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 4: They want to you guys.

1563
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 3: Got any other questions for James.

1564
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: I want to return back to the giant safs that

1565
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: you left, like, I don't know how you could ever,

1566
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: the guy told you that he's like hooked on the

1567
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: giant safe and then you just moved on. Like what

1568
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: happens with the giant It was stuck.

1569
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 4: And we couldn't move. But it's still there, still there. Yeah,

1570
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 4: I'll take a bigger throw.

1571
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, bigger throw.

1572
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: All right.

1573
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good throw. We're gonna get something really nice.

1574
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 4: It's ten pounds, you know what I mean. That's ten pounds.

1575
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Yanni is stuck on the safe.

1576
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: He's stuck on the big safe. So you know where

1577
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: it is. You can't get it out, but there's a.

1578
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 10: Underwater you're into They chopped into the safe so it

1579
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 10: was empty.

1580
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 4: We could see that was empty and there try and

1581
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 4: get it up to the land. We couldn't get into it.

1582
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, you have to be at least like six inches.

1583
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 4: Was huge.

1584
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 3: That's the biggest sake.

1585
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 4: We had a little spin handle on it. The one

1586
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 4: we left was a vault vault.

1587
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, now it looks like you got snagged on

1588
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 3: something there, James. Was that something magnetic or were you

1589
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: just dragging it over a log?

1590
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 10: It could be logs, It could be uh, rocks sometimes

1591
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 10: the stones that people throw in the water.

1592
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1593
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 10: You know, it could be bikes that are too deep

1594
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 10: that we sometimes.

1595
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 3: Okay, the James is bringing the magnet to shore again.

1596
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 3: Let's see what we got this toss. You can go

1597
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 3: see the World Champion Magnet Toss or on our YouTube

1598
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,480
Speaker 3: channel watch James do his handywork.

1599
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: We got a paper clip. Oh, look at that treasure.

1600
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: And actual So.

1601
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 4: Think about magnet fishing. Sometimes you're gonna get a paper clip.

1602
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 4: Sometimes you're gonna get a hundred thousand dollars.

1603
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: You don't know, that's right, all right, James. If people

1604
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: want to see more of your magnet fishing. How do

1605
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: they go watch it?

1606
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 4: You could literally just.

1607
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 10: Go on online and typing let's get magnetic. We're on

1608
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 10: all social media platforms, but mainly too if you want

1609
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 10: to give me kay and say what's up?

1610
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 8: Okay, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook page.

1611
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 10: And one of the one of the interesting thing is

1612
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 10: we get a lot of lures and I always wanted

1613
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 10: to know if these things have value or not.

1614
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 3: I have we have like a box of all you

1615
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 3: text me some photo, James, We'll get to the bottom.

1616
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 4: Then.

1617
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for joining us, Thanks for teaching us

1618
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: about magnet fishing. Thanks for cleaning up our waterways, and

1619
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: good luck getting that cash refurbished.

1620
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 4: Guys, thank you so much for having us on.

1621
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: Everyone has fun, everybody, thank you. That was fun. That

1622
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: was great.

1623
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun for last you know.

1624
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 5: The one bummer about it is just shows you what

1625
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 5: kind of dirt bags people are. Yeah, for those guys,

1626
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 5: know the people are cleaning up.

1627
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: I mean that's what you want representing the great city

1628
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 2: of New York right there.

1629
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 3: Totally.

1630
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean he's like, yeah, someone else can say that

1631
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: it's there. Hundred k. Just give me a hundred bucks.

1632
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 2: That is for Pete. That guy's great.

1633
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 3: We'll check in with the James again.

1634
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 7: But yeah, there, I want to just plug their their page.

1635
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 7: I've got an Instagram page. Two here, it's just let's

1636
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 7: get magnetic. It's all no, no apostrophe, all one word.

1637
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 7: He's on YouTube and Instagram.

1638
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, doing uh, doing something fun. And they're cleaning

1639
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 3: up or water while they're Yeah, Brodie, you said your

1640
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 3: son had a magnet, but he gave up all.

1641
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 5: The centers pretty quick.

1642
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, he needs to.

1643
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 3: Live in a place like New York City to really

1644
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: appreciate magnet.

1645
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it's a good thing that he never really

1646
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 5: found anything cool and he went right back to regular

1647
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 5: fishing after after like an hour doing the magnet fishing.

1648
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: All right.

1649
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 3: That brings us to the end of the show. Phil,

1650
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: let's get some final listener feedback.

1651
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 7: Yes, sure thing, let's see here. I'll just grab this

1652
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 7: one because I'm it's that's the first one I saw.

1653
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 7: It is Phil hunter fish. The answer is kind of sort.

1654
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 3: Of what's the biggest fish you ever caught? Phil?

1655
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 7: I couldn't even tell you. Yeah, I mean people, a

1656
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 7: lot of people know this. I was not a hunter

1657
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 7: where I started working here and I still probably wouldn't

1658
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 7: consider myself a hunter, but I've gone out several times.

1659
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 7: The only person who really invites me out is col

1660
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 7: So thanks to Cal and no thanks to anybody in

1661
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 7: this room.

1662
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 6: Oh no, but yeah, yeah.

1663
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: Mostly I've just.

1664
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 7: Say, you know, an upland ducks, turkey, just pretty much

1665
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 7: just birds so far, that's kind of all I'm really

1666
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 7: interested in. I'm not really chomping out the bit to

1667
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 7: get out in the woods, but I wouldn't say no.

1668
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I'm saying. Would you take some meat

1669
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: if we hadn't meat for you?

1670
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well totally we can do that. Let's see

1671
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 7: you complete the fifth on this one. But maybe it'll

1672
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 7: just kind of show you your true colors.

1673
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: Here.

1674
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 7: Our good buddy Leland asks if you had to join

1675
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 7: just one conservation organization, which one would it be.

1676
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 3: That's a tough I think we've talked about this before.

1677
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 3: But if I was just joining one and my membership

1678
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 3: always ran out, I'd join a different one the next

1679
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 3: year then, so I'd spread my memberships around. But for

1680
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 3: the rest of my life. I don't know what the

1681
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: answer would be. What do you boys think?

1682
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean?

1683
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tough question. Maybe tr tr CP doesn't

1684
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 5: you don't really have a membership there. Yeah, you can

1685
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 5: still support like some like I like them because they're

1686
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 5: like in DC, like hopefully like affecting policy that you know.

1687
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 5: That's that's a good choice there.

1688
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1689
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: I think any of the groups that are non species

1690
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: specific that really work across the entire country and for

1691
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: all you know, outdoors people, So maybe tr CP or

1692
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: the Sportsman's Alliance or howell you know that are really

1693
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: involved across the board.

1694
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones that I benefit the most from probably

1695
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 3: National Dear Association and Pheasants Forever because in my home

1696
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: state of South Dakota they do a lot of great

1697
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 3: habitat work and that same habitat work is good for

1698
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: deer as well. But I'd probably go with something that's

1699
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 3: oriented towards access like b h A, because uh, if

1700
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: I have places to go hunt fish wouldn't matter.

1701
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 5: But man, it look, have you got like a critter

1702
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 5: you like the most, turkeys or mule deer or whatever. Like,

1703
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 5: It's not like you're not making a bad choice by

1704
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 5: supporting those groups either, That's right?

1705
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 3: What else you got?

1706
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 7: Phil Caleb asks, as a beginner to turkey hunting. What

1707
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 7: would be the cruise go to call or a Phelps

1708
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 7: family here. But if you guys have any sort of

1709
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 7: specific Phelps calls that are beginner friendly.

1710
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: Well, for me, it's answer is easy. It's always just

1711
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: a basic slate call, pot calling. Yeah, basic slate pot call,

1712
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: very easy to use, can make all kinds of sounds, loud, quiet,

1713
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: that's it right.

1714
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 7: Colin asks what's your favorite fish dish, whether to prepare

1715
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 7: it or eat it?

1716
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: Beer battered fish. Can't beat it, That's it's my favor.

1717
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: You're a beer batter.

1718
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 5: I can't do the beer batter man when not, I

1719
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 5: just I like, I like when I eat in restaurants,

1720
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is way too much shit around the fish,

1721
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 5: and that when I've tried at home, I haven't been

1722
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 5: able to like do it to the point where I'm like,

1723
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 5: this is better than bread and fried breaded fish.

1724
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: Sure, I'd like to see you or I'd like to

1725
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 2: try your version and see how you pull it off,

1726
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: because yeah, I know other people that are big beer

1727
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: batter folks, but yeah, I'm kind of with Brody. I'm like, Eh,

1728
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: it's good for the first couple of pieces, and then

1729
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm like Yeah, it's a lot of stuff.

1730
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 3: We'll have a fish fry sometime.

1731
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 5: But it's like, this is a tough one to pick

1732
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 5: one fish dish because there's like very different kinds of fish, right,

1733
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 5: Like there's fish like perch and walleye that are awesome fried,

1734
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 5: but then there's like salmon, which is like awesome grilled.

1735
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 5: So that's what I go with fried fish grilled fish,

1736
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 5: depending on what kind of fish it is.

1737
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 2: Honest, Yeah, it's not the dish so much. I'd say

1738
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: that more of just the species itself. And one of

1739
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 2: the fish I was going to possibly use for my

1740
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 2: the our top three fish segment was a yellow eye

1741
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: rock fish I caught years ago at Steve's fish Shack.

1742
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 2: And uh, you know that thing is like a It's

1743
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: like a grouper and a scallop had a baby, you know,

1744
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: That's what their flesh is like. Like you literally just

1745
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: don't need to add anything to it, you know, besides

1746
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: a little bit of salt and and again just cooked

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01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 2: very plain and simple.

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01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: If I wasn't picking beer banded fish, I do like

1750
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 3: a very Midwestern chowder that would be very creamy, have

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01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 3: some corn in it. You can put about any fish

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 3: in there besides a salmon.

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01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: I do like a good we do it.

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01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 5: We do a salmon chowder is great, it's popular in Northwest.

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01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, put any fish in there. Tell what else you got,

1756
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 3: Let's do a few more.

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01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 7: Okay, this is the by far the question we've been

1758
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 7: getting the most. But there's a lot of misinformation about

1759
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 7: it out there, but we should probably just say a

1760
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 7: few words about it. What does the crew think about

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01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 7: the dire Wolf de extinction?

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01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 3: They're not dire Wolves number one. The branding is all wrong.

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01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 5: Cover of Times, Look magazine, look up our body. Jim

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 5: helflefingers post on it. He's got a good Instagram post

1765
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 5: on it. I think it's like a giant marketing campaign.

1766
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 5: I don't think it's conservation as they're proposing it is.

1767
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 5: And then like I'll leave it at that.

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01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you can if you want more information Straight

1769
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 7: from the Horse's Mouth, episode five sixty four of the

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01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 7: Media podcast. We had Matt James of Colossal by Biosciences

1771
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 7: on the show. Joannis and Brodie were in the room

1772
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 7: for that time. So yeah, you can check that out

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01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 7: for more info.

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01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 3: And if we if we had the ability to actually

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01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 3: bring things back from extinction. Let's focus on the things

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01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 3: that we cause to go extinct, not some critter that

1777
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 3: died during the ice age. How about the dodo or

1778
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: passenger pigeon? Is it the white rhino that we're got

1779
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 3: like one left of in the world. Let's let's de

1780
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 3: extinct those. But yeah, the or keep ship from going

1781
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: extend about that? That's right. We got a lot of

1782
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: efforts that we could focus on that area.

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01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, we'll do one more kind of running out

1784
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 7: of him here. But Chris asked, does the crew have

1785
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 7: aversion to hunt the Pacific Northwest temperate rainforest obviously prove

1786
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 7: a serious challenge of fine game, but could definitely make

1787
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 7: for some awesome content. Cheers from the Olympic Peninsula. I

1788
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 7: have noticed that it's a bit light on Pacific Northwest content.

1789
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 7: Is there a reason for that?

1790
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 4: Specific?

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01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 5: I mean Southeast Alaska is oh, yeah, sure, climate was

1792
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 5: very similar, very similar, So I don't think. I think

1793
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 5: that's probably like Steve owns a place up there, so

1794
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 5: that's why they're going there. I don't think there's an

1795
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 5: aversion to it, is there? You honest?

1796
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 2: No, I've been looking at you know, maybe going hunting

1797
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: blacktail deer in that neck of the woods. But for

1798
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 2: a lot of the other species there or those states

1799
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: just generally aren't very friendly to non residents. It's not

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01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 2: easy to get tags in Oregon and Washington. So I

1801
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 2: know there's some out there. I'd love to go hunting

1802
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:57,879
Speaker 2: Roosevelt at some point.

1803
01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Phelps and those guys they hunt.

1804
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 7: Ye, yeah, that's that's Phelps home turf over there. He's

1805
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 7: he's in the in the forest deep.

1806
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it organ? I don't think they do preference points.

1807
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 5: No organ does. I think that's one reason why it's

1808
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 5: real tough to get.

1809
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 7: And it's very different climate wise. But Cal's done several

1810
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 7: things in eastern Oregon that you can see on on YouTube.

1811
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Washington's a tough state for non residents too,

1812
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 5: all right, is that it?

1813
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: Phil? Oh? I like Matt's question about once in a

1814
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 2: Lifetime tags?

1815
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 6: Oh?

1816
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, last question?

1817
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 7: Am I blind here?

1818
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: Right?

1819
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

1820
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 7: Matt asks what are the room's thoughts on quote once

1821
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:41,879
Speaker 7: in a lifetime tag drawings?

1822
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 6: Uh?

1823
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 7: The PA Game Commission is pushing to change the bowelt

1824
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 7: tag till once in a lifetime format.

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01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 5: I mean my thought is is a lot of those

1826
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 5: a lot of tags that aren't once in a lifetime

1827
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 5: tags like that aren't done that way, like sheep or

1828
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 5: mountain goat or and a lot of cases moose in

1829
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 5: the lower forty eight, they were once in a lifetime

1830
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,879
Speaker 5: tags anyway, really, right, So I don't have a problem

1831
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 5: with like if I draw a big horn sheep tag

1832
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 5: and kill a big horn sheep in Montana, say, I'd

1833
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 5: be fine if it was once in a lifetime.

1834
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it should be that way. I prefer

1835
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,839
Speaker 2: it that way because, yeah, it is such a limited

1836
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: resource and if I was to get so lucky to

1837
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: draw it too, right, and there's hundreds of the other

1838
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: people that are, you know, waiting and waiting and want

1839
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 2: that experience, Like, yeah, I don't think I should get

1840
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: a second opportunity. I think someone else should get there first.

1841
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 5: And for I mean we're talking specifically lower forty eight here, right,

1842
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 5: Like if you did, if you drew them out and

1843
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 5: goat tag in wherever Colorado and it was once in

1844
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 5: a lifetime and you really wanted to go hunt one again,

1845
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 5: you could, you know, go hunt them in Alaska or

1846
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 5: somewhere like that.

1847
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: If that's right, You know that's right?

1848
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 3: Agree? With what you boys said, all right. That brings

1849
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 3: this to the end of the show. See everyone back

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01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 3: in the new week. Thanks for watching, Thanks for listening.