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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. So that light was not on.

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Speaker 1: We didn't record, all right, all right, I'm sure, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that's not We're not the first.

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Speaker 2: One, okay, So right, podcasts one on one hit record,

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Speaker 2: hit record, Okay, because everything we just did we didn't

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Speaker 1: Okay, but that was only ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: Thank god, we realized it now as opposed to forty

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Speaker 2: five minutes from now.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna give you. Let's let's just get let's

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Speaker 1: get it going.

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to Reasonably Shady. It's your girl, Giselle

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Speaker 2: Bryant's here.

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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? And I'm Robin Dixon. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Guys, this is our second episode. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for coming back because hopefully you listened to the first

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Speaker 2: one and now you are back listening to us again.

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Speaker 2: Just want you to know that we are two girlfriends

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Speaker 2: who love each other, and so this podcast is all

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Speaker 2: about you hearing.

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Speaker 1: What girlfriends talk about.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna be talking about everything from you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, up and down and through.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about everything.

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Speaker 2: And we're also going to allow at some point for

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Speaker 2: our listeners to ask us questions.

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Speaker 1: We'll be able to give advice.

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Speaker 2: So today is gonna be a good day because we're

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Speaker 2: talking about relationships.

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Speaker 1: We love to talk about relationship, yes we do, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do.

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Speaker 2: But we always want to start our reasonably Shady podcast

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Speaker 2: off with a little icebreaker.

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Speaker 1: So it's our reasonably shady moment of the week. Robin.

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Speaker 1: You want to go first, yes, So my reasonably shady

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Speaker 1: moment of the week goes to myself. M It's nothing major,

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Speaker 1: but I just I came back from a trip a

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Speaker 1: number of days ago, mm hmm, and I still have

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Speaker 1: not unpacked my suitcases suitcases, and so now I'm just

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like that, And I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: I had time to unpack my stuff, okay, but I'm

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Speaker 1: making life more difficult for myself right now.

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Speaker 2: So you do realize this podcast is called reasonably shady

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Speaker 2: and not procrastination.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I look at it like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: reasonable because a lot of people do this. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people go on trips, trip come back and they

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Speaker 1: let their suitcases sit and I'm shady because it's just, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not productive.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to just say that you this

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Speaker 2: was a three day trip.

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Speaker 1: I saw your luggage.

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Speaker 2: You had two big old bags a luggage, and so

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Speaker 2: that was actually reasonable because you had to put everything

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Speaker 2: in right. Yes, shady because I'm shading you because we

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Speaker 2: were only going for three days.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we were going for three days. So now I

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Speaker 2: So I was actually on this trip and my reasonably

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Speaker 2: typically not reasonable. She's typically always shady. So I checked

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Speaker 1: Okay, I understand where you're coming from, yes, but I

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Speaker 1: can understand as well a person's perspective. When they hear

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Speaker 1: something negative, right, they just hold onto the negative part, right,

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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to say, moving forward, in a

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Speaker 2: I will let you know what I'm being shady. I

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited because you know, I love talking about relationships.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things. And this is called

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Speaker 1: talk about my relationship. And I say that because it

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Speaker 1: started in nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: To two oh six to twenty sixteen. That's twenty carried

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Speaker 1: So my boyfriend, fiance, husband, ex husband, fiance, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's been all those titles. He was an athlete. We

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Speaker 1: So when you're an athlete, the lights are bright, cool,

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Speaker 1: there shooting in the gym. Yeah, I was in there

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Speaker 1: shooting in the gym. It was the Robin. Why were

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Speaker 2: If if at any point y'all hear noise, it's my construction. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of construction going on at my house.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's all types of noises. It's construction, powerwashing,

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Speaker 1: that's good, it's life. Yes, okay, So NBA he made

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Speaker 1: it to the media. We were, like I said, we

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Speaker 1: Right. So it's like, so, yes, we got a divorce

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Speaker 1: that I was living. Your friends was broke, broke, broke.

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Speaker 2: and am I okay with it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we can get through that. You can get through that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not signing up for it because I feel

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Speaker 1: Right. Does that make sense? Yeah? For sure. And a

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Speaker 2: We then got back together twelve years after I got

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Speaker 2: Yes, And you know, in both of our situations, we

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Speaker 2: but I love you and I want to cuddle. No bitch,

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Speaker 2: Number two is ten percent of these said cheating infidelities

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Speaker 2: What struck me, and this is for me and you

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00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: because be cause what I really wanted to know was

432
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: when men cheat?

433
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: Do they cheat again? Okay? Right?

434
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: And it said three hundred fifty percent of men that cheat?

435
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: What cheat again?

436
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: Three hundred and fifty not one hundred percent of men

437
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: that cheat cheat again, it's.

438
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: Three hundred and fifty percent. I don't if I might

439
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: be making that up, you are, How can three fifty

440
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: percent of a group of people, let me read my

441
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: it's like that one person. So what they're saying is, okay,

442
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's these people cheat three point five more times,

443
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

444
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: I didn't get involved in that, but I just start

445
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: thinking about my life and I said, well, god, damn,

446
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: somebody should tell me that about two years ago, just saying, right,

447
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: just saying.

448
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: It would have saved you some time and some heart.

449
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: It'll saved some time and energy and money now.

450
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: But but but that's real, though, and that's real for

451
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: you as well, right right?

452
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: And I think I mean, you know, who knows why

453
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: men cheat or what makes them stop cheating or what

454
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: makes them change from a cheater to a non cheater.

455
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is just growth. I

456
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is, you know, going through

457
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: experiences where maybe they they're you know, hindsight, they look

458
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: back they lost someone because they cheated on them, and

459
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: they're like, man, I messed that up. That was like

460
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: my wife, that was gonna be mine forever and I

461
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: lost her. So then when they get in their next relationship,

462
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: they don't want to and they have a good woman

463
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: that they really love and appreciate, they don't want to

464
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: lose her, right, So it's like sometimes, yeah, when you're

465
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: leaving that man because he cheated, you're actually setting up

466
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: the next woman for a better man. Okay.

467
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: So I just want you all to know something because

468
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever shared this every dude that

469
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: I've ever broken up with and I've broken up.

470
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: With a line. Oh god, do they get married?

471
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: Is their next girlfriend? They're married their very next girlfriend.

472
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: They marry them, Okay, And I kind of at first

473
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: I was like, well, damn, this is weird. But actually

474
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: I take that as like a badge of but not

475
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: like you help them get there. Yes, you help them

476
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: get the point where he's ready to be married. Yes,

477
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: I whipped that dude into shape for the next woman.

478
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: So ladies, y'all send me some gifts, okay, because I didn't.

479
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: Hooked a whole lot of y'all up.

480
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Now they don't even know Okay, no, they know,

481
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: they know that the last girlfriend was just they're clear

482
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: on that. I get daggers and stairs all over the

483
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: place when I walk down the streets. Now, anyway, listen, wait,

484
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: I think this statistic is interesting.

485
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: Okay. It says thirty six percent of cheaters have affairs

486
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: with their coworkers. And I believe that. I believe that.

487
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're spending so much time with each other. Three,

488
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: you're spending more time at work and more you know,

489
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, just you're going through work issues, and right

490
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: you have a commonality, which is the job. Yes, yes,

491
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: and I believe that. So I remember when I used

492
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: to work, I you know, even though WAM was in

493
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: the NBA, like I still would, you know, try to

494
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: find jobs when I could or whatever. So I worked

495
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: an office job and I would go to lunch every

496
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: day with the same group of guys every day. Wan

497
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: are you hearing this? Oh? He knew because he would

498
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: be like you at lunch again, like you know who

499
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: you at? Like he did not like that at all. Right,

500
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: it would drive him bonkers that I would go to

501
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: lunch with the same group of guys and I'm like, dude,

502
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: chill out. But I get it because I think in

503
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: his mind's going crazy, like right, God, you're at work,

504
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: you're hanging out, You're spending all this quality time with

505
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: these people. Yeah, but it used to drive me crazy.

506
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, but wait, did any of the

507
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: guys try to hit on you? No, but they would,

508
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, say nice.

509
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: They was flirty flirty yes, okay. So another statistic is

510
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: thirty I'm sorry, thirteen. So we already established it said

511
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: that twenty percent of men cheat. We think that's a lie.

512
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: We think it's one hundred percent. But thirteen percent of

513
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: women cheat. Now, if twenty percent of men are cheating,

514
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: they cheating with women, right.

515
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: So I don't understand they statistics, but I get it

516
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: like women, like I believe the women. It might be.

517
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: I feel like it might be a little bit low,

518
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: but I feel like maybe be like twenty percent of women.

519
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: No, I think women is forty percent. And I would

520
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: tell you why why whatever the men? Whatever the statisticate

521
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 2: is for men, women is double. Women know how to cover.

522
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: Their tracks better than men.

523
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So I feel like women do stuff and they

524
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: take it to the grave.

525
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: Women know how to cover their tracks. I don't know

526
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: anything about that.

527
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: Women know how to make sure that they cleared the

528
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: history on their phone. They cleared the history on their

529
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: navigation in their car.

530
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: Am I am? I telling them? Well you are? I

531
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: will say I did, I did get caught. You know

532
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: what I did. I'm about to give you a tip.

533
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: Y'all probably already know this tip. So I had a

534
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: person I was talking to. This isn't during a rocky moment. Okay,

535
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't know who were you with one or not?

536
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: We were together? They were together, but Verba said, but

537
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: I had me, But I had had enough. Okay, she said,

538
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: I gotta do me. Okay, I have had enough. So

539
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: I had a person I was talking to and I

540
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: changed his name to a female's name in your phone

541
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: in my phone. Yeah, Robin, that's the old news, every news. Yes,

542
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: I mean you know how Sally and and Jill and

543
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: well Larry and Teresa. Somebody just learned something.

544
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, So wait a minute, So wait a minute.

545
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: So did you when you said you you jumped out there?

546
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: Were you cheating on wine? Were you having sex with

547
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: this man? No? No, no, we were We probably would

548
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: have gotten there, but we were just communicating. And he

549
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: found out, and Wan found out Wand found out, and

550
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: he didn't want to break up or anything. But it

551
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: was an eye opener for him, right you know, because

552
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, at that point, I'm like, you're not giving

553
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: me the attention that I need or that I want.

554
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: So so that was an eye opener for him. But

555
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: this was like years and years and years ago, and

556
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: he like, still will never forget.

557
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: That's that's so no no to ladies. Men want to

558
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: do what they want to do, but theyd I'm sure

559
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: don't want you doing what you want to do. And

560
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: the quickest way to get a man to get himself

561
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: together is for him to think you doing something else

562
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: exactly exactly. And I feel like, actually, when when Jamal

563
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: and I broke up, that that's what happened. Like he

564
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: would he'd be outside, like waiting for me to drive off.

565
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: I lived in this apartment and it had a garage.

566
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: He'd be waiting outside the garage, like where's she going?

567
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: Right? Is she going to see? What's she gonna do?

568
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: They cannot handle it. They can't, And it's such a

569
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: double standard. It's so crazy. It's like, Okay, y'all can

570
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: do what you want. You can run around. It's like okay,

571
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, especially if you have kids. If we have kids, Okay,

572
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: I gotta come home. I gotta be with my kids.

573
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: But the man, he can just be like, all right,

574
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna I'm going to play the video game.

575
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to you know, play basketball. I'm gonna do this.

576
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: What why is that? Why can't you just come and

577
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: go as you please? And I can't. So I'm like, oh,

578
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: how would you like it if I was just like, Okay,

579
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: well i'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that right right,

580
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I totally. It's a very it's a huge double standard.

581
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: We have to understand that men are babies.

582
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: Their egos are easily fragiled, fragiled, I think I made

583
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: up a word. Their egos are easily fragiled, Is that no?

584
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: Or easily broken?

585
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: Sure? Broken? Okay?

586
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: And I you know if you're not stroking, they're fractured. Fractured, yeah,

587
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: easily fractured.

588
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, there regard. They always want their ego stroked.

589
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: They always want to feel like they're so very important,

590
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: they're so needed, they're so wanted.

591
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: But let them think you getting attention from somebody else.

592
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, so ladies, you heard it

593
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: from me first. If you're in a relationship, and even

594
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: if their relationship is amazing, that.

595
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: Is your boo.

596
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: He's got your back, and you are you rightly so

597
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: have his back.

598
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: That is that is just your main man.

599
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: And y'all are y'all are doing the dog one thing

600
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 2: every now and again. Gone and put that frekum dress on,

601
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: put them high heels on. Call all of your girlfriends

602
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: and let him know that you've called all of your girlfriends,

603
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: and y'all are going out and do not come home

604
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: until the sun comes up. Okay, just do it. And

605
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: let me tell you something that's just a little check in.

606
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: It's just a little let him know, like, don't get froggy, buddy,

607
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: cause other people are out here who think I am sexy.

608
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: He needs to know that at all times. And when

609
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: you come home, he is gonna be like, you have

610
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: a good time. Let me say. I think I can

611
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: say this. I think I can say this.

612
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: So you know, I have a good girlfriend Eric Laous

613
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: and Kevin, and like, you know, I think they won't

614
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: mind me telling this story. But one day I was

615
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: coming into New York just to hang out and with

616
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: a couple of girlfriends.

617
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: You know.

618
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: Erica told Kevin like, if we gonna hang out this

619
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: girl's night out. He was like all right, So he

620
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: was like, you know what y'all need. So we actually

621
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: needed for him to get us a VIP section in

622
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: the club. So he, you know, Kevin Leiles, mister Kevin Leles,

623
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: he goes into the club when.

624
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: We got there, he came, he paid for everything.

625
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: He talked to all the security guards. He was like,

626
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: take care of them. He put down the black card,

627
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: so we were like free to.

628
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Do us for the nights okay with us at it

629
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: was kind of kind of because clearly he'd probably don't

630
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: pay some people to take pictures of us. But whatever.

631
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: So long story sure, we didn't expect the night to

632
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: go this way. Long story short, it went the way

633
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: of Eric allows and get home into the sun cald.

634
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: It was literally like five thirty in the morning.

635
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: So the funny part about it was I had, like,

636
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: let's say, it's seven am flight, So I literally went

637
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: to the hotel, packed my bags and went straight to

638
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: the airport. And as I'm at the airport, I get

639
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: a call from Kevin an area. And the call went

640
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: a little something like this, because Kevin, if he really

641
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: wants to talk to me, he calls.

642
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: Me from Erica's phone.

643
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so when when I look at it, it says Erica.

644
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: But then when I pressed answer, it's Kevin. Kevin, so

645
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: she's sitting there right there with him, and he was like, really,

646
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: this is what we're doing.

647
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is that a what we're doing.

648
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: So I've been home all night, my wife didn't get home.

649
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: It was your fault. It was your fault. I mean no,

650
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: it was the collective fault of girls night out but

651
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: you know what that was. That was cool for me

652
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: to know that not cool, but it was like a

653
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: good Like.

654
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: Every now and again, you gotta let these dudes know

655
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: for sure, Hey they are married to a hot girl.

656
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Yes that be they can go out and have fun

657
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: and tear the club up and see they gonna come

658
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: home when they come home.

659
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: And trust me, when you're out, their mind is going crazy.

660
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Their imagination is running wild. They are like, she is

661
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: being lifted, someone is lifting her up and she's straddling

662
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: his face and there's humping on the floor. Oh my god.

663
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what these guys are tormenting themselves when

664
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: we're out and having our hot girl fun.

665
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: But we're not thinking about them, right rich, just having fun,

666
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: right right. Meanwhile, the phone is in the purse and

667
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: they done facetimed and call twenty times, so they ready

668
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: to call the police because they're scared to think you're, like,

669
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, missing, but they know you're really not. And

670
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: then and then let me tell you what they do.

671
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: So there'll be like I say, it's five girlfriends, the

672
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: single single hot girl is posting all night on her Instagram,

673
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: so li there following. Yeah, so all the husbands are

674
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: like scrolling through trying to see, oh my gosh, in

675
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: the background, who's that dude? And in the background corner,

676
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: who's that dude? So you know, I mean, you know,

677
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: long story short, ladies, do not lose yourself in whatever

678
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: relationship that you're in. Make sure you maintain your strength,

679
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: your independence, your self worth because it can easily get

680
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: wrapped up into him.

681
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now that I did it.

682
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: You know, I was in a shadow.

683
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: You know, Jamal Bryant is a huge personality, a huge figure.

684
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: Any room he walks in sucks out all the air.

685
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: And I didn't have my own sense of who I

686
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: am and who I want to be. So you know,

687
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: I tell my children, a don't date an athlete Robin

688
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: or meat or a megapastor those two.

689
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: Things jack Chack or a rapper check.

690
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: But make sure that, no matter what, you always maintain

691
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: who and what you are. And that gets confusing sometimes

692
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: because we all want to grow and develop, right, we

693
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: all want to strive to greatness. But make sure that

694
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: whatever relationship you're in, if he's not helping you get

695
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: to your individual greatness.

696
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: You need to leave. That's a word because he will

697
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: suck it out of you, right right. If your man

698
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: is not cheering you on, if he's not supporting you,

699
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: if he's not encouraging you. Yeah, no, he ain't for you.

700
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: He's not for you. He's not for you. But I

701
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: will say, like I said, sometimes you do have to

702
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: split up. Yep, but break up, file for divorce, move on.

703
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: That's not to say that you'll never get back together,

704
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: but sometimes they need, you know, that's that smack on

705
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: the head to wake themselves up and realize what they

706
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: had and how to be a better man for that

707
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: person that you are becoming or that you are destined

708
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: to be.

709
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's be clear, you know, break up or

710
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: make up. I mean the reality of it is, relationships

711
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: are tough. It's a it's a everyday journey. I feel like, yes,

712
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: Jamal and I we broke up our marriage based off

713
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: of you know, infidelity, But if that had not happened,

714
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: I always think, you know, because I was being swallowed

715
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: in this marriage, what I have eventually snapped and wanted

716
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: to leave because that's just not it was sucking out

717
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: who I am and how I feel like I have become.

718
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, but but He and I both say

719
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: that us getting a divorce was the best thing that

720
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: ever happened to him and to me individually, right, But

721
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, of course we have three beautiful kids, so

722
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: it was all worth it in the end. And I

723
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: feel like, God don't make no mistakes.

724
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: No, he sure doesn't. He sure does not. But it

725
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: would be nice if we could, you know, figure out

726
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: how to reduce the divorce rate, how to keep families together. Yes,

727
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: but it's hard. It's hard. It's hard.

728
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: I always say that relationships are work, and unfortunately for me,

729
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: sometimes I just get throw my hands in the air

730
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: and give up, and I don't want to work.

731
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: You know.

732
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: I was saying this recently to one of our girlfriends,

733
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: and you were there, and she said, she's been married

734
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: for like seven No, she's been married for two years,

735
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: but she's been with this guy for about seven years.

736
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: And she said, I don't ever feel like our relationship

737
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: is work. And everybody else in the room is like,

738
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: wait on it, right, wait on it, because it's coming.

739
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: And not to say that.

740
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Work is a bad thing exactly, but you gotta work

741
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: to make sure that you're happy, that he's happy. That collectively,

742
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: y'all are happy. The kids come, that derails things and.

743
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: It's tough indeed, right, and you grow and you evolve,

744
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes you grow apart, but that doesn't

745
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: mean that's the end of your relationship. When you grow apart,

746
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: you got to figure out, Okay, well how can I

747
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: grow with that person and meet them where they are

748
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: and adapt and change and so it takes. It's a

749
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: lot of give and take. It is. It's a lot

750
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: of you know, I always say, you know, no human

751
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: is perfect, and so I think sometimes when people do

752
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: mess up, people get so angry about what that person

753
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: did to them. But I always say, that person, because

754
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: they're not perfect, would have done that to anyone. So

755
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: you always have to take out like the personal feeling

756
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: like he hurt me, Like no, he would have hurt

757
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: anyone because he's not where he should be in life,

758
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: or because you know, he would have made this mistake anyway.

759
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes when women get so so bitter

760
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: and angry and then they you know, cause problems with

761
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: you know, seeing the kids, and they want to you know, retaliate,

762
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: that's when things get worse. So if if you know this,

763
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: go for a woman or a man, like when the

764
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: other person hurts you, just realize they're not hurting you intentionally.

765
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: They're doing it because they're not perfect, right, And when

766
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: you can remove that element, it helps just in moving forward.

767
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: And then also, you know, let's be clear, like if

768
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: you find your dude cheating on you, do you then

769
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: circle back? And if y'all are gonna make it, you know, y'all,

770
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: y'all are gonna, you know, go down this journey and

771
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: go down this test of time?

772
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Do you sit set new boundaries? Do you set ultimatums?

773
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: Do you say, Okay, this happened, and in order for

774
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: us to make it right, I want a trip to

775
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: the French riviera, or I want a new pair of shoes,

776
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: or I want a Cottier bracelet, Like do you set do.

777
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: You set parameters? That's a band aid, like you know,

778
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: asking for I mean, that's not okay if the guy

779
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: messed up, like that's nice if he wants to give

780
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: you stuff, But that shouldn't be like Okay, just give

781
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: me this and I'm fine and we can move forward.

782
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: But a lot of women do that. I I mean,

783
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: is that materialistic? Yeah? Like how does that solve? Just

784
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: just for the record, I don't do that.

785
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: No, I mean it doesn't know, it doesn't solve the problem.

786
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: You're right, it does put a band aid on it.

787
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: But do you say, okay, let's do a post nup.

788
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Let's put in writing that if this ever happens again,

789
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: it's a rap.

790
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm for it right now. Mind you? Speaking of nuts, ladies,

791
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: don't you ever get married?

792
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't care what's you. I don't care if you

793
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: got five hours and he has seventeen. Don't you ever

794
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: get married without a prenup? That okay, because you do

795
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: not know where this relationship is going financially, and finances

796
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: are important, and you want to protect yourself if and

797
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: when you got you get.

798
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: A divorce, you want to protect yourself.

799
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: So you want to make sure that you are that

800
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: there's no fight. We ain't fighting over money. Like I didn't.

801
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have a prenup. Oh you didn't, I did not?

802
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: Oh wow? Because like until it was a fight. Yeah,

803
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: it was a fight, but like I just said, like

804
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: we didn't have much, like we grew it all together, right,

805
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a fight like over money necessarily, it

806
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: was a fight over well I guess it was over money, Okay,

807
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: who am I lying? Yes, Okay, so it's fighting over money.

808
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: You're fighting over that's why I'll say the kids, but like, no,

809
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 2: it was a fight over money, and I will that's

810
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: that's a never I will never ever do that to

811
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: myself a game.

812
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's that. I mean, that's good advice because

813
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: you could get married, like you said, you could get

814
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: married when you're twenty one and you're both young and

815
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: you're growing, and then one of you can turn into

816
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: a mogul, you can start a company, and then all

817
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's a fight, you know. So so yeah,

818
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely good to have that stuff up front.

819
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: And I feel like that that makes the when they're

820
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: kids involved, that makes it even harder, you know, to

821
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: get to a good place when it comes to the kids.

822
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: It's like you're fighting over the money. Now you're being

823
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: bitter and you're fighting over the kids and.

824
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: Right, and you you also need to understand that marriage

825
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: is marriage, and even just any relationship, it's it's a transaction.

826
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, you can't break it down for

827
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: it to be like a business transaction so to speak. Right,

828
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: so you have to decide for yourself, Ladies, how many

829
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: time if you're gonna talk cheating, how many times? It's

830
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: too many times? Like, don't just go down this road

831
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: and say, well, I'm just in a relationship and whatever

832
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: happens happens, and I'll just deal with it when it happens. No,

833
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: you need to set boundaries for yourself. You need to

834
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: set a precedent for yourself because this is your life.

835
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: Don't ever And it's going back to that chem allows.

836
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: He told me, Giselle, live your movie, don't live no

837
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: man's movie. This is your life, this is your road.

838
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: And it's nice if y'all can live the movie together,

839
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: but don't live somebody else's life.

840
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: Have your own love that.

841
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: Yes, No, he didn't say that at five o'clock in

842
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: the morning. When you call me about right.

843
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: He was like, what I said about leaving a movie,

844
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: I didn't mean in the club, right, But I mean

845
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: this just word word for the while. So I think

846
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: we've given people a lot of stuff. I know, I know,

847
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: am I And like I said, my final word on this,

848
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: like when we're talking about forgiveness, if you choose to

849
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: take someone back who cheated, then you chose to take

850
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: them back so don't hold those bitter feelings. Moving forward.

851
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: You have to be willing to say, you know what,

852
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: that happened in the past, and we're moving forward from it,

853
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: so you don't need to bring it up over and

854
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: over again. Yep. You don't need to be walking around

855
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: pout and angry. You don't need to be like, well,

856
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: tell me again what happened. Nope, let it go and

857
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: move on. If you choose to stay, then let it go. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not good with that right because I will

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00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: let you live in purgatory for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes it doesn't hurt to remind them what

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Speaker 1: they were capable of, or you know, sometimes you like, oh, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: remember when you did that? Okay, Yeah, sometimes it doesn't

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00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: hurt to remind them. But I'm saying, like, don't hold

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Speaker 1: onto like the bittern and the pain and the anger

866
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Speaker 1: because it's not going to help you.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to help you, and it's not going

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Speaker 2: to help the relationship. And to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: and I got this from Oprah Winfrey, forgiveness is for you,

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Speaker 2: forgiveness of what somebody has done to you. It's for

871
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Speaker 2: you it's for your piece, it's for your sanity. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's great for them to know that you forgive them,

873
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: but it's really for yourself, right, absolutely, Okay. So we

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Speaker 2: want to always end any of our podcasts with a

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Speaker 2: reasonable situation and a shady situation. And to be quite honest, Robin,

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00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: you should be very proud of me because I was

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Speaker 2: not shady at all in this second episode.

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Speaker 1: I mean you had a little bit little shady, ye,

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00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: a little bit okay, okay, so Robin, but it was reasonable.

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Speaker 1: So it's fine, Okay, So do.

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Speaker 2: You want to give our So because this podcast is

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00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: about relationships, we wanted to give our reasonable relationships. Yes, okay, Okay,

883
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: you're going, oh, I'm going to give the shady Okay, good, yes, good,

884
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Speaker 2: so you can get the reasonable.

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Speaker 1: So my reasonable relationship goes to Will and Jada Pinkett.

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00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: They have a wonderful relationship with Will's first wife who

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Speaker 1: they have a child with. They have a wonderful family unit.

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Speaker 1: It seems like, you know, they're they're pretty open with

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Speaker 1: their experiences, and I think they are. You know, of

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00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: course we don't know every little detail about what happens

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00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, but I think what they've shared with

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00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: us is something for us to all, you know, learn

893
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: from and grow from and strive to be if you're

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Speaker 1: ever in a situation like that, Yes, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that Will and Jay I mean Will and

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Speaker 2: Jada for whatever it's worth, their goals, their relationship goals.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for surely. Okay, So let's talk about some

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00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: shady couples here. You don't have to make some money mass.

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Speaker 1: So I have actually a couple, Okay, I have two.

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Speaker 2: So first I want to say, and I kind of

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Speaker 2: really don't want to say this because she has passed away,

902
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: but Whitney and Bobby.

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00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: And the only reason why I say is shady because

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00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: I was hurt when they broke up. I thought they

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00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: would be together forever because they were both the right

907
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: kind of crazy, right right to make a relationship work

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Speaker 2: with each other.

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00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, see I felt like they were almost

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00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: each other's worst enemy, like they weren't good for each other.

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00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: Okay, And that's that's Roberts shady take. And then we

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00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: have Ray j and Princess. Princess found out that she

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Speaker 2: was getting divorced on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? But now aren't they back together?

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00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: What is that? I feel like I keep hearing a

916
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: makeup a breakup? Okay, I have an issue when couples

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00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: just air out their issues on social media. Stop it,

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00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: y'all anyway, Like, yes, so we could go down the line, right,

919
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: ray J and Princess. Yes, super shady because because the

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00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: problem is when you let the public into your relationship

921
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: problems and then you get back with that person, Well,

922
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Speaker 1: the public did not forget about your relationship problem. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because ray Je, I'm side eyeing you, sir, side eyeing you.

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00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: So aren't they back together? I don't know. I'll always

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00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: be shady in mind. But that's the same thing like

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Speaker 1: Quavo and Sweetie, Likeabo you was talking about taking a

927
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: Bentley bag boy bye, right, Yes, I had love for you.

928
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Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna make you my wife, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but when people come in, you don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: it because but you just let us all in.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, we are out of here. We absolutely

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Speaker 2: love you guys. Thank you so much for tuning in

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Speaker 2: to reasonably Shady. Next week we're probably going to be talking.

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Speaker 1: About We're gonna be talking about confidence. Yes, over confidence

935
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Speaker 1: is confidence a killer? When it comes to relationships, you know,

936
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Speaker 1: romantic relationships and friendship and professional relationship and professional relationships.

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Speaker 1: So and at some point we're going to start taking

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Speaker 1: viewer advice questions.

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00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: Yes indeed, so look out for that on social media,

940
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Speaker 2: because we want to know what you are thinking, what

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Speaker 2: you're feeling.

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Speaker 1: And we all answer them them shady questions. Thus, all right, girl,

943
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: yes we.

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Speaker 2: Will, yes, yes indeed, so all right, bye, see you later.

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Speaker 1: Until next week. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Reasonably Shady is a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

948
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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows, and you

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00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: can connect with us on social media at Robin Dixon, ten,

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