1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: M oh d my Cody, it's behind the bastards, Cody Johnston. Addition, Cody, 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Have you successfully what's the last 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: dragon that you've confronted to get at its horde of gold? Uh? 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Getting to bed and sleeping soundly and waking up RESTful? 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Was my gold? Wow? My gold is the gold that 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I stole from the underground layer of the dragon Smaug, 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: who I successfully fought using a variety of bliss. I 8 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I thought you metaphor No, no, no literally 9 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: literally yeah. Sean Connery, Yes, famously Sean Connery the dragon. Yes, um, 10 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: because all dragons, like all evil uncles, are actually the 11 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: same ragon. You never questioned when a dragon comes in 12 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: because Sean Connery playing a dragon in the movie. I 13 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: know the movie you're talking about, but I've actually forgetten 14 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: the Dragonheart. Fucking great movie, incredible film I've ever seen 15 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: that I have, Cody, I used to love that movie. Honestly, 16 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about that movie in years. I think 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: I have to rewatch Dragonheart and actually see if it's 18 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: if it holds up, because I have no idea if 19 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: it has like, yeah, I don't know. Um, it's been 20 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: it's been a while. I don't know. I feel like 21 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: a dragon fantasy movie probably doesn't have a lot of 22 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: the things that makes something show up as aged, like 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: rampant homophobia. Yeah, that probably isn't a factor in Dragon 24 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Heart say that, but yeah, I'm gonna watch it and 25 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: be like, wow, I forgot that. There's a thirty five 26 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: minutes Sean Connery rant about immigration in the middle. I'm 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna say, Sean Connery doing the voice, so maybe he 28 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: like talks about how it's okay to slap women dragons 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: and stuff, you know. I don't know. I don't know. 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: Is that okay? But if they're dragons, is it wrong? 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: If it's well, I'm saying, Cody, the dragon is a 32 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: powerful arc type because we all have dragons that have 33 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: to be conquered, and the only way to conquer a 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: dragon is with the sword of truth. And if you're 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: using the sort of truth, could you not slap a 36 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: dragon with the sword of truth? If, for perhaps you 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: were unable to penetrate its scales with the sword because 38 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: you don't have a pin, because the pin is mightier. Yeah, 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't say it's wrong, Cody. I 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: could say it's wrong. I won't because it's not. Who's 41 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: to know what wrong and right is? Dr Jordan Peterson, 42 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: we are not yet through the first episode of his 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: god incredible TV ship series Dragons, Monsters and Robert. We sure. 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: I like your little Your little almost slipped just calling 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: it a ship. It is ship. Um, it's it is 46 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: It is complete true. You know what's fun, Cody, is 47 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: that before this happened, I was out in the woods 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: where a friend and I spent a significant part of 49 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: a saturday uh field dressing a deer with non ideal 50 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: equivalent equipment in like the middle of the deep woods, 51 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: far away from other people. Um. And that that whole 52 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: experience was both powerfully primal. UM. I think it's the 53 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: kind of thing that Jordan Peterson would say, that that 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: that men are supposed to be doing, and that is 55 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: that is healthy for them. And it was a task 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: that my friend and I accomplished but by being agreeable 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: with each other. And because my friend is more competent 58 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: at this than me, it's a task that I was 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: able to accomplish by listening to them, um, rather than 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: attempting to like direct and manage the process. Because I 61 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't know how to do it as well as they did, 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: um and communicate respectfully to you. Sure did, Cody, And 63 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: as a result, Um it was. It was a wonderful 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: experience all around, and a great probably know a little 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: more about how to do it now I do I do, 66 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: because but so I mean, but did you cry while 67 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: thinking about Dumbo during it? I didn't cry while thinking 68 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: about Dumbo. I did have the revelation that Antifa hates 69 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: God because in cell uh No, it's the for the 70 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: curse of being right. Yeah, the cursive being right, the 71 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: curse that that quote from Tombstone. Yeah, I thought a 72 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: lot about the curse of being as I was looking 73 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: at the subaru. Impressive. That got totalled by that, dear 74 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: good times. So let's get Let's get back to Dr 75 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Jordan episode one of the Honestly, this is just like 76 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: your theaters and greatest hits the show. It is him 77 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: ranting in a way where it's like, you know, the 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: thing you talked about all the time, just like do 79 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: another version of that, Yeah, go at it. Jordan's b 80 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Peterson Tales track into as we as We've that's a 81 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: different show. So although all dragons are the same, just 82 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: like all uncles are evil. Sadly, this is a different show, 83 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: and the Catholic Church is an uncle, which is why 84 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: you should go to it because it's your not disagree 85 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: with it because you don't believe anything, but also change 86 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: it because it molests you. Let's listen to some other 87 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: wisdom that Dr Peterson has. So when we left off, 88 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: he's just announced that writing isn't a tool for finding 89 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: truth or learning to think, it's a tool of domination, 90 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: because domination is the only task Jordan's seas as worth accomplishing. Well, 91 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: I can scrap the rough I don't want, you know, 92 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: at the end of my life that was rough I want. 93 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: I floated through life on a cloud of pillows and 94 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: nothing ever challenged or threatened me. It's like no one 95 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: wants that as their memory. What they want is like dragons, victories, 96 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: dragons victories, dragons victories, something like that, or beasts, you know, tamed, 97 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: beasts tamed, something like that. And so you know, there's 98 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: a deet you all understand the value of like the 99 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: ups and downs of life. And if everything is perfect, 100 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: then nothing is perfect, and you need struggles to have successes, 101 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and you need bad vibes to have good vibes to 102 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: compare to and it's good to like accomplish your goals 103 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and get out there and you know, make some successes 104 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: in life is a struggle. And but he uses this 105 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that like everybody like generally agrees about, 106 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: like that life is to say, like you shouldn't like 107 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: not going to medical debt and like all these like 108 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: things that like we can make things like a little 109 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: easier and you can still have challenges and successes and 110 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: victories in life if you can go to the doctor. Yeah, 111 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: And it's also just like nothing he's saying is an 112 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: absolute truth. These are all conditional truths of challenges and 113 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: struggles like meeting and and exceeding chan leunges and struggles 114 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: can make you a better, stronger person. Um Also, surviving 115 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: difficult things sometimes ruins you as a human being. A 116 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: lot of people are fundamentally broke. For example, one of 117 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: my grandpa's brothers fought at Best Stone and got shot 118 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: through the head and survived and was never the same, 119 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: and everyone agrees he was kind of fundamentally broken by 120 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: the experience. Uh, he went and he slayed a dragon, 121 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: and it it like ruined the rest of his life, 122 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: which is the thing that happens to a lot of 123 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: people who encounter things that are are difficult and traumatizing, 124 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: because it doesn't always make you better. Sometimes it makes 125 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: you less capable of dealing with the world. Well, that's 126 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: you got to choose the right dragons, right, Yes, the 127 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: wrong dragon in that case was the Nazis. He should 128 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: have picked an easier dragons, like yeah, yeah, like sitting 129 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: at home and advocating for an end to the New Deal, 130 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: or like yeah, m a video game, yeah, like a 131 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: video game. Um, anyway, whatever, it's perfect. It's all right 132 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: on the screen. Which dragons to go after? Which dragons 133 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: to go after? And let's let's see how he how 134 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 1: he explains this treasures are worth attaining. That's a good question, 135 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, you could you could be 136 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: like don Kyote and and go after windmills. And there's 137 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: something noble about Kote because at least he goes after something. 138 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: I what wait, wait, can we keep going. Let's let's 139 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: go a little. They're at least dragons in his imagination. 140 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's dangerous to go play in traffic. But 141 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: and so you might say, well, I've run out in traffic. 142 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm dodging cars. I'm playing chicken, Aren't I slaying the dragon? 143 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: It's like a hardy exposure to danger. It might be 144 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: better than no exposure at all. You know, there is 145 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: something someone admirable Bats, that kind of careless bravado that 146 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: you sometimes see among the Sophie past this because I 147 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: want to emphasize Jordan Peterson has just kind of kind 148 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: of talked himself into running into traffic, like he kind 149 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: of convinces himself it's a good something. Sometimes maybe that's 150 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: good to run into traffic. Let's second, Okay, alright, good 151 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: luck Jordan's That's sort of the Bart Simpson approach to life, 152 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, better than the Millhouse approach. Neither are optimal. 153 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: I feel like one of the points of the Simpsons 154 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: is that neither Bart nor Millhouse are are anything but 155 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: like object failures, as people like every time they get 156 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: ahead to their future. Bart is like living a marginal existence, 157 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: like an inch away from being out on the street. 158 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: He becomes a Supreme Court justice. Right. Oh wait, isn't 159 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: that is? That's one of the new one, Cody. We 160 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: don't need to go out se back in the day. 161 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: That's like classic Simpsons. Yeah, talking about it, I'm talking 162 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: about the one where Lisa Mary's the British man. Oh, 163 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: that's just like, well, even in that episode, he's like, 164 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: there's like a reference. He's like, he's like, looks like 165 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: ship and he's like, yeah, I'm a fucking piece of ship. 166 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: It's like, don't worry, I'm getting out all my aggression 167 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: before I go to law school. And then he becomes 168 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice. No, that's the one where they 169 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: see the Itchy and Scratchy movie, right and his dad. 170 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: That's two. So the Itchen Scratchy one is first, Uh, 171 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: we see him as as a Supreme Court justice. Uh, 172 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: and then the flash forward this is the president. Uh. Jordan, 173 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,119 Speaker 1: he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, is in construction. 174 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm gonna go to law school eventually. 175 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: You're right, Jordan Peterson is correct. It's better to be 176 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: a Bart Simpson than a millhouse unless there's a moderate 177 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: amount of flooding, in which case you probably want to 178 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: be a millhouse. Because he's got those he's got those 179 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: those pants that are cuffed up a little bit high. 180 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: Um keeps his cuffs bone dry. Everything's coming up anyway anyway, UM, 181 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: I just find it so like, all right, it's real quick. 182 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: There's a few things here. It's just like he he's 183 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: given a few examples and none of them are good yet, 184 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: like what dragons do you fight? Well, don Yote thought dragons. 185 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: That didn't want to talk about that, I want to 186 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: talk about don Quixote because he brings up don Quixote 187 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: to say that, like, well he's a tilting it windows windmills, 188 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: and the windmills you know, aren't what he thinks they are, 189 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: but like there's something noble and just the act of 190 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: of the of the fight itself, and that that's something beautiful. 191 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: It's really funny to me because Savante's I'm not I'm 192 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: not an expert on don Quixote, but if you look up, 193 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: like what the author why he wrote don Quixote, it 194 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: was because he was really pissed at the popular fiction 195 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: that existed at the day, which was mostly these like 196 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: really shitty and derivative stories of like medieval nights and 197 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, doing night shit. Um. He specifically framed don 198 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Quixote as an attack on quote, vain and empty books 199 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: of chivalry. He was trying to destroy a genre of 200 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: fiction that he found tepid and not engaging and not 201 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: particularly like intellectually valuable. And it's exactly the kind of 202 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: fiction that Jordan B. Peterson has based his entire life 203 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: view on, right, like that Don Quixote is about, like, God, 204 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: all this stuff is lame as hell's like boring. It's yeah, 205 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: uh that's of course, yeah, it's it's and like but 206 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: also like he brings it up and then doesn't really 207 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: even make a point. It's just like he's trying to 208 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: he's trying to answer the questions. He's kind of saying, 209 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: tilting it windills is good. Yeah, well no, because they 210 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: like the the only examples he's given so far are like, yeah, okay, 211 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: this this story where it's not really a dragon or 212 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: running into traffic, Yeah, those are the two. And he 213 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: talks again. I have to cannot emphasize enough. He talks 214 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: himself into leaving that running into traffic might be a 215 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: good idea than not doing it. All right, but no, 216 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: actually like not like completely like ignoring that. Like, by 217 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: the way, when you run into traffic, it's not just 218 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: like doing a dangerous thing, it's looking a dangerous thing 219 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: for potentially hundreds of people who are also who are 220 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: like on the road in their cars. It's not just 221 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: like this like weird like uh Frogger video game or 222 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: like extreme sports. Right, it's not you're not jumping out 223 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: of an airplane like getting the rush of that extreme experience. 224 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: You're in traffic. People will die. It's silly, man. Yeah, anyway, whatever, 225 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: it's amazing how really consistently in this this episode, Cody. 226 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: The only parts of Peterson's rants that actually translate into 227 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: useful information is stuff that like you're eleventh grade guidance 228 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: counselor could have told you in between smoking weed out 229 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: behind the building. Stuff like job interviews can be gary, 230 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: but you have to do them sometimes on them, like 231 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: it's not even like you have to do this sometimes, 232 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: like yeah, get better at public speaking. Yeah, I mean 233 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: the the the challenge that I have in life, I 234 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: should try to like get better at it. Like it's yeah, 235 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: the most basic life. Yeah, you don't need to couch 236 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: it and it's like dragons and monsters and men to 237 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you're struggling with that, you should work 238 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah you can, you can succeed. I'll help, 239 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Like it's well and also I don't know. Maybe if 240 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: you think about it that way, Uh, that's less useful 241 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: because I don't know. I just I I lift weights. 242 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a power lifter or anything like that. But 243 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: I've made consistent progress and I just recently hit the 244 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: point where I was able to do two full sets 245 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: at a new max and it it was it was 246 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: something I've been working towards for about a year. And 247 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think about I want to be able to 248 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: bench press two and twenty pounds as if it was 249 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: a dragon. I thought about it the way that most 250 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: people think about most actual challenges, where this is a 251 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: series incremental improvements that I need to make until eventually 252 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I can do the thing. And look, now I've done 253 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: the thing. That's nice. Um And when I when I 254 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: repeatedly was unable to do it earlier, I didn't think 255 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: the dragon has bested me. I thought this is part 256 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: of incremental improvement. Is failing in this very simple act 257 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: to be described. Um yeah, if it if this helps people, great, 258 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: but it seems like an unnecessary abstraction, uh to actual 259 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: progress and success. But yeah, it's that's exactly what it is. Is. 260 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: It's not like you can think about challenges. This way 261 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: you can think about wanting to do, you know, raise 262 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: your squats or whatever, or run a mile faster as 263 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: a dragon, and maybe that works for you, but it's 264 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think a silly and unnecessary way 265 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: to think about going after challenges. Yeah, because this is 266 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: like the way, and this is what we talked about 267 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, but this in particular, this show 268 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: for some reason, Yeah, this is the kind of thing 269 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: that would be like a children's book. Yeah, he's taking 270 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: Billy in the dragons and the dragon is a metaphor 271 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: for all the challenges in life. And okay, that helps 272 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: children understand what challenges are. But as anyone over the 273 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: age of like eight or ten or twelve pick child's age, 274 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: understands what challenges are. I think what Peterson has maybe 275 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: recognized here that is actually intelligent is that masculinity in 276 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: our society is so like broken because people think that 277 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: it does rely like that that being masculine involves fighting things. 278 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Was going to because we've built like a world that's 279 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: in many ways slightly better than it used to be. Um, 280 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of chances for men to go 281 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: fight things because it's actually not very necessary or healthy 282 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: if people are fighting all the time. But all of 283 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: our media is themed towards venerating physical courage as the 284 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: primary expression of masculinity. And so Jordan Peterson recognized that 285 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: you can make a lot of money if you dress 286 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: up stuff like, hey, maybe practice doing job interviews as 287 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: like and you must slay the dragon and defeat your 288 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: evil uncle and right, and then like his audience skews 289 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: like young white male kind of thing, and so like, okay, 290 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: you like fantasy bullshit and you're fucking video games. I'll 291 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: talk about it like that. Um, and it's like, yeah, 292 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: doing the dishes is like a dragon's like no, it's 293 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: the thing you gotta do. It's like those like dude 294 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: wipes or like tactical diaper changing bay okay, now cody 295 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: tactical Wait wait, I do love I love all of 296 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: the tactical diaper changing bags because they're they're made to 297 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: look like or tactical like baby carriers. Because anything like that, 298 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: anything that's like marketed like it's this everyday thing you do. 299 00:17:54,920 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: But like it's wares are specifically any because they're like 300 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: they're made to look like plate carriers, which is like 301 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: a plate carriers a thing you wear over your body 302 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: that carries armor inside of it and ammunition and stuff 303 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: on the outside of it, and like the baby goes 304 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: in the place that the body armor that's meant to 305 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: absorb bullets. Unbelievable. It's just really funny. It's silly, and 306 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: it's like these things that like, I know, I have 307 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: to do this in order to get people to act 308 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: like this, and that's just what he's doing, I think, honestly. 309 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: And I think one of the fundamental things I disagree 310 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: with Jordan is he's like, if you think about things 311 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: in this way, then it will inspire people to achieve more, 312 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: because people are fundamentally motivated by these these grand like 313 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: some like archetypes in our heads and symbols from our stories. 314 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: And I actually think that's pretty unhealthy. And I think 315 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: maybe in a lot of cases, the best thing to 316 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: do is to frame stuff like taking care of your 317 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: own child and cleaning the dishes as like scrubbing yourself 318 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: with soap from time to time, which just like, yeah, 319 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: it's just the thing you do. Yeah, well right, it's 320 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: the It's the opposite of what he said earlier in 321 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: this video. In the previous episode, about like lying and 322 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: like manipulating language and stuff and saying untruths, and like, well, 323 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: if reality is not is unreality, then how do you fight? 324 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: Like It's like, you don't need to talk like this. 325 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: You're creating this weird like realm of thought that is 326 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: unnecessary in order to do the real things in real life. Also, 327 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: this is Dragon's Monsters and men, and he's talking about 328 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: what it's like to be a man. I'd be very 329 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: curious what he would how he would respond to someone 330 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: saying if you're a woman, do you also have dragons? 331 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: Or like is it a different metaphor the occasionally and 332 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: he in here he does a couple of times, although 333 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: it's very clear who's he's angling Cody. Let's move past that. 334 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: I want to show you the funniest part of this 335 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: fucking episode, the treasures that you can get. Well, the 336 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: first thing Dragon's guard is Spurgeon. So there's that. Well, 337 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: it's very bizarre story, right, the story of the dragon. 338 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Dragons guard golden and virgins. It's like, what interest do 339 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: dragons have in golden virgins? But well, the girl wants 340 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the guy who can overcome the dragon, So that's that's that. 341 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: That's dead simple and and obvious to anyone with even 342 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: a smidgeon of biological knowledge. That's any any biologist will 343 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: tell you, Cody, the dragons love virgins and women the 344 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: guy slay the dragon. But also, like, these dragon stories 345 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: aren't from the point of view of the woman, you 346 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: know they're they're usually like the prize in these stories, 347 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: she's not a character, and so it's not about like 348 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: what she wants, it's about what he thinks she wants. 349 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: So he gets the thing to present as this night 350 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: to say whenever. It's funny because Jordan's has recently come 351 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: out and said that like he's emotionally moved by being 352 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: basically the in cell philosopher. And the reason why a 353 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: lot of men are in cells is because they internalize 354 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: these ideas about what women want that are created by 355 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: men like men like Walt Disney and the nineteen fucking 356 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: fifties UM who didn't maybe had never talked to a 357 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: woman in an open and honest conversation, UM talk talked 358 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: at a woman. But even then with Walt Disney, probably 359 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: not all that often, because I don't think women were 360 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: allowed to speak at the Disney offices, and I don't 361 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: even know if that's a joke. I I don't. I 362 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: don't think that was a um Cody. You know it 363 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: is a joke. Below prices on gold that our sponsors selling, Cody, 364 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: are you ever scared of the world all the time. Well, 365 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to do something for me. Doing something. 366 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Get out, get out a piece of paper and a pin. Right, 367 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: your bank account number and you're routing number, your whift 368 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: code and your pin on it. Okay, and then you 369 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: just send that over to me, and at some point 370 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy gold. I'm not gonna give it to 371 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: you because you might lose it, Cody. Sometimes you get 372 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: holes in your pockets and stuff. I'm gonna I'm gonna 373 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: put that gold in a very real bank and then 374 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: when you need it, you just come and call me. 375 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: I'll give you my number later and we'll well, you 376 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: can get your gold and everyone can do this. Just 377 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: send me your bank account routing numbers, and I will 378 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: use it to buy gold at a great price. Okay, 379 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: and you'll just like you'll, you'll mail me your number. Yeah, yeah, 380 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: you'll get it at some point. Anyway, let's roll these 381 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: ads for gold. We're back, Cody, Robert Cody. So I 382 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: think one of the things that's funny about that virgin 383 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: dragon rant is that you kind of see Jordan's start 384 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: to ask himself why dragons want virgins and then realize 385 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: there's no reason, right, Like, it's just kind of a 386 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: weird thing that likes to think about that now. And 387 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: and maybe even like the most famous dragon and all 388 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: of fiction didn't do that because Jare Tolkien was just 389 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: a little bit better of a storyteller than some of 390 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: the folks at Disney. Maybe. Um anyway, Uh, Jordan's is, 391 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's so much that's wrong about that. 392 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: Um in stories, like you know, the stories that servants 393 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: hated dragons are sometimes yeah, one of I don't know, 394 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: have a virgin for some reasons that a night can 395 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: rescue her or whatever. But Jordan is he's not talking 396 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: about like stories again, He's dropping these things that are 397 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: like old storytelling shortcuts and not even particularly good ones, right. 398 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Like we can debate as to whether or not, you know, 399 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: the evil uncle or the virgin held by a dragon 400 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: is like a good thing to have in a story, 401 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: But there are many stories that include like evil and 402 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: that include dragons that do not include those tropes, and 403 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: in fact, most really good stories don't include those tropes 404 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: because they're not particularly necessary and they're boring. Um. Also, 405 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: I find it so that whole brief little clip was 406 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: so fascinating because also he because he's bringing up like, oh, 407 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: also golden virgins, you see, and his explanation for why 408 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: dragons will capture virgins was that, well, because women, you know, 409 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: they want the man who who defeats the dragon and 410 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: any biologists. And he gets so angry about that, like, oh, 411 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot. Well, that doesn't explain the 412 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: virgin part, Mr Peterson, You you ignored that you specifically 413 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: said virgins, and then your explanations like, well, women want 414 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: the guy who can get things done, what about the 415 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: virgin part that you brought up? You brought this up 416 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: like it's is still removed from the thing he's trying 417 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: to pretend know what to talk about. So much of 418 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: like what he has to say is based on like 419 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: he he frames it as it's based on these like 420 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: immutable evolutionary truths, like hierarchy is a thing that we 421 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: know is important because human like creatures of doing it 422 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: before there were human beings lobsters you know, are hardwired 423 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: for you know, yeah before it's older than trees and 424 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: anything like that. There's a reason that it has been 425 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: around for so long and and that's why it's the 426 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: only way that things can ever be. And it's like, well, actually, 427 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: if if if just kind of like raw evolutionary uh 428 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: benefit was the only thing that mattered, then um, there's 429 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: actually not any reason to seek out a virgin. And 430 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: in fact, if you're if all that matters is like 431 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: spreading your DNA, finding people who have proven that like 432 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: their body type is able to easily and successfully undergo 433 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: childbirth would be better than just randomly picking out virgins 434 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, um, who can give birth 435 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: die doing it because it's it's hard. Um. And maybe 436 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: if you're if all that organisms do is optimized for survival, 437 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: that's actually not the best tactic. Yeah. So maybe it's 438 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, So maybe it's a maybe people doesn't create. 439 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: They're not always logical, and we can change our value 440 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: systems because often they're silly and self defeating. Maybe everything 441 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: in the world and how it should be can't be 442 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: explained by just like how evolution worked out, yeah, or 443 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: by fucking Disney story tales from the nineteen sixties. Um. Anyway, obviously, 444 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: the most harmful thing about this whole dragon in virgin 445 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: ship is that, like, actual women in real life, virgin 446 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: or not, are not being guarded by dragons. They're human 447 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: beings who get to make their own decisions. And the 448 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: task of like falling in love is not conquering a dragon. 449 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: It's like meeting somebody and building a relationship, which is 450 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: very different from fighting an animal. Um. Yeah, and then 451 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: and like winning the game because he even he hits 452 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: on this earlier of like, well, yeah, it's not like 453 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: you want to work on yourself and demonstrate like why 454 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: you're a good valuable person and like all these things 455 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: and like get skills and do that be a dragon 456 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: slayer in his in his language, and prove that you 457 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: can be. But it's not the act of doing it 458 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: that wins you the the virgin Prize. Yeah, it's it's 459 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: all of the things that make you good at fighting 460 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: are are not things that make you good in a relationship, 461 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, Like it's it's it's it's everything about this 462 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: is fundamentally toxic. I'm sure he would disagree with you, 463 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: But Dr Peterson actually fight because you know you have 464 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: you if you know, if you know your dragons and 465 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: she knows her dragons and your dragons can fight each other. 466 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've had to fight a couple of 467 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: wild animals, and the tactic that was successful for me 468 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: was picking up a big stick and hitting it in 469 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: the nose. Um. I have not tried that in a 470 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: romantic relationship, but I don't think it would help me. 471 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: Probably not. Jean Connery would different. Sean Connery would say different. 472 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, m anyway, women are going to be what 473 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: would you say, entranced by the man who can keep 474 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: the predator away from the infants. I mean, clearly that's 475 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: a primary significance. So if you can confront the dragon, 476 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: you get the girl. And that's how God only knows 477 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: how old that story is, like millions of years old? 478 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: What Dr Peterson, There's no story that's millions of years old. 479 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: People haven't been telling them from millions of years Just 480 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: so silly. He's just trying to say that, like the 481 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: act of like a male organism protecting a female organism 482 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: from like a predator is like a tale as old 483 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: as times like Okay, I don't know it's theoretically we 484 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: don't actually know when people started talking obviously, like when 485 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: human beings started using words, because we were not writing 486 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: at that point. I think like fifty thousand years is 487 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: often bandied, but it's possible it goes back like like 488 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: two million years. But I will I would be willing 489 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: to bet that that is not the way stories were 490 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: necessarily framed for two million years, because I I think 491 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: evidence suggests that things were a little bit like storytelling 492 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: was much less literal for some of those people's because 493 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things about their belief system in the 494 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: way they dealt with the world would have been not 495 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: like not been literal in ways that Uh, the way 496 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: we talk is because so much of human thought in 497 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: speech has been informed by the stuff that happened in 498 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: the past. So the first people probably would not have 499 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: talked about anything the way that is recognizable. I don't know. 500 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: We have not been telling that story for millions of years. 501 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: That's where I come come come to ground on um. 502 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I tend to agree with you that we 503 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: haven't been telling that story for millions of years. Yeah, 504 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: we absolutely have not. Anyway the episode, sorry, what he's 505 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: talking about this he's just such a little sneaky little 506 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: word man, because he's not saying I don't think he's 507 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: saying like, literally, we've been telling the story of millions 508 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: of the years, saying that this the existence of this 509 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: event in like this, the manifestation of this dynamic has 510 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: existed for millions of years, right like he would he 511 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: would describe like, oh, the tale of the of the 512 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: little guy, uh making his way up the hierarchy has 513 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: been a story told for millions of years. And what 514 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: he means is like, yeah, love, just do this. And 515 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: so like the act of it existing in the world 516 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: is in his mind the story being told, because that's 517 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: how he views all this stuff. He's just a weird guy. 518 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: He is just he is just a weird guy, Cody, 519 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: You know it isn't weird. Third capitalism, Yeah, the third 520 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: split screen is pretty great. Um, and so is the 521 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: ads that sponsored this podcast. In a way, they're your dragons, 522 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: these ads. By throwing some cash on the fucking ground. Ah, 523 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: we're back. So the episode kind of starts to end 524 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: with more of what I would call meaningless tripe. First, 525 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: he says that like, travel is good because it helps 526 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: you figure out who you want to be which is fine, 527 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: But then he says that like doing this is quote 528 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: unquote active aiding the ancestral father, and he compares it 529 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: to epigenetics, saying that stressing yourself, stressing yourself cody leads 530 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: your genes to activate new modules that give you new abilities. 531 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Talking about leveling up kind of yes, and like getting 532 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: skill points, like putting ah unlocked brawler A turn things 533 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: on inside of you that you don't even know we're there. 534 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: And that's the same as reactivating the ancestral father. It's 535 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: the same thing because all that biological capacity is in 536 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: some sense nested inside you, maybe coded at the genetic level. 537 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: We know that if you stress yourself in particular ways, 538 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: especially voluntarily, new genes turn on and code for new proteins, 539 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: like you literally build new modules there there in latent form. 540 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: It's not much different than you know, when you go 541 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: to the gym and you start lifting weights while your 542 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: body is going to transform. But it's not going to 543 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: do that if you just sit around it a little 544 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: little army ways, he was cheering a cheer. He was 545 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: doing a little cheer. Look, he gets epigenetics completely wrong. 546 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: It does not work that way. It is not like 547 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: lifting weights, and it is not unlocking modules that provide 548 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: you with new powers. Um. Epigenetics is a real phenomenon, 549 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: and it certainly seems accurate to say that there are 550 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: things that can be passed on in your d NA 551 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: to your descendants and that are passed on into you 552 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: from your ancestors in ways that are not super well understood. 553 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: But certain things can get switched on by environmental factors. 554 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: It is not like unlocking ancient powers. You are not 555 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: like becoming your ancestors by unlocking powers that they encoded 556 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: in your DNA. And in fact, a lot of like 557 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: when this kind of epigenetic phenomenon is observed, it's often 558 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: stuff that you wouldn't want to have happened. It's bad stuff. 559 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote from a little right up in medline 560 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: plus on how genes work. That is a pretty basic 561 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: rite up I can understand, and I'm stupid quote. A 562 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: common type of epigenetic modification is called d n A methylation. 563 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: DNA methylation involves the attachment of a small chemical groups 564 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: called methyl groups, each consisting of one carbon atom and 565 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: three hydrogen atoms, to DNA building blocks. When methyl groups 566 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: are present on a gene, that gene is turned off 567 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: or silenced, and no protein is produced from that gene. 568 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: Another common epigenetic change is his stone modification. His stones 569 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: are structural proteins in the in the cell nucleus. DNA 570 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: wraps around his stones, giving chromosomes their shape. His stones 571 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: can be modified by the addition or removal of chemical 572 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: groups such as methyl groups or acidal groups, each consisting 573 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: of two carbon, three hydrogen, and one oxygen atoms. The 574 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: chemical groups influence how tightly the DNA is wrapped around 575 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: his stones, which affects whether a gene can be turned 576 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: on or not. Errors in the epigenetic process, such as 577 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: modification of the wrong gene or failure to add a 578 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: chemical group to a particular gene or his stone, can 579 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: lead to abnormal gene activity or inactivity. All your gene activity, 580 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: including that caused by epigenetic errors, is a common cause 581 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: of genetic disorders. Conditions such as cancers, metabolic disorders, and 582 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: degenerative disorders have been found to be related to epigenetic errors. 583 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: It's like, again, I don't understand epigenetics. No one really does. 584 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: There's actually One of the major debates is like, is 585 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: are there ways in which like trauma is passed on epigenetically, 586 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: and it's actually like a lot of people will say, well, yeah, 587 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: and you can see it, and you know, there's studies 588 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: on Holocaust survivors. We actually don't really have a great 589 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 1: handle on it. And like the degree to which that's true, 590 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: if it is, like all of this is I'm not 591 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: an expert. There's a lot we don't know about this stuff. 592 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: A lot we don't tie it to the spiritual as 593 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: it is a thing. It definitely isn't is like you 594 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: stress yourself and then gain powers from your ancestors. That's 595 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: not epigenetics. And often epigenetics is like, yeah, like a 596 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: weird environmental factor caused this like thing in your DNA 597 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: to activate and and now you have cancer. So it's 598 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: not like I went through I like went through like 599 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: a big ordeal. I fought a dragon and I unlocked sharpshooter. No, 600 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: it's more like there's errors made when you're like photo 601 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: copying stuff, and sometimes those errors can cause serious problems. 602 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not the only thing that Again, EVA 603 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: genetics is much more complicated than that little quote that 604 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: I've read. I just want to make the point that 605 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: he is wrong. He is completely wrong about but he's 606 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: a biologist. It is not like lifting weights, but he's 607 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: a biologist. So I feel like maybe he's right about everything. 608 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, Cody, and you know you know 609 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: what else you're right about that this fucking episode is 610 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: almost over. Um I was right. God bless you for everything, 611 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: Mr Cody. Bless us everyone, God bless us everyone, Sophie, 612 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: can we play the last minute or so before the 613 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: before the credits run. I just want Cody to see 614 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: how this all. You can't just give me a second 615 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: exit because you didn't mark anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but 616 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: we weren't planning to have a font maybe the worst 617 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: font I've actually ever seen, Like I would prefer Papyrus 618 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: or comic sands. Oh okay, you want the last minute? Um? 619 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: Fuck me. I don't want to see it. And we 620 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: are unfortunately back. We are unfortunately back. It's not much 621 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: different than you know, when you go to the gym 622 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: and you start lifting weights while your body is going 623 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: to transform, but it's not going to do that if 624 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: you just sit around. You have to you have to 625 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: face your being with the necessity of transformation, and then 626 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: all sorts of new things that you had no idea 627 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: you were capable of will make themselves manifest, and that's 628 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: all part of that pattern of voluntary confrontation that's the 629 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: core of any an adventure. Did that make Did that 630 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: make any sense to you? Cody? Oh my god? I 631 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: need to absorb what's going on in these plays real quick. 632 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: We've got kind of again like a Game of Thrones 633 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: style fun is going on ending scenes in what is this? Yeah, 634 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: it's like we just watched Jordan Peterson like fistfight a 635 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: fucking cave bear. This is so intense. Also, whoever sound 636 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: designed this? Why did you so much louder than people 637 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: are involved in the production? Shall we continue? Like too 638 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: many people now? Cody? Oh my god, it's so embarrassed thing. 639 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: You've made a lot of videos in your life. Some 640 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: of them have been videos of a person sitting and 641 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: talking to camera. What how big of a crew would you? 642 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: Would you say you need? Is it that many fucking 643 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: people know? Um? Well, so with our I mean with 644 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: our show, I'm the only guy in the room. We 645 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: do it over zoom. We have director and uh teleprompter 646 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: virtually um, and there are people on zoom helping out 647 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: and like adjusting lights. Um, but its just me in 648 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: the room. Um. When we had a studio it was 649 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: three people maybe including me. Usually, Um, this is a 650 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: little fancier, you know. It's there are two cameras at 651 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: least the cameras in motion, so you need to probably 652 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: have a boom mic operator following them along so you 653 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: don't get the mike and the shot and then another 654 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: one for the second camera and maybe the third camera. Um, 655 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: so more. I think it requires more than we would 656 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,959 Speaker 1: use for sure, but not as many as I saw 657 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: on screen. Um. But you know, they need to make 658 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: it look again, it's like anything to make it look 659 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: more intense than it is because it's just Peterson rambling 660 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: about stuff. Um. There. I liked how at times there 661 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: was this text on screen, just because you've got to 662 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: have something going on, so just like have the words 663 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: that he's saying on screen as he says it. Um. 664 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: His little last speech was was odd because I mean 665 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: we already talked about the genetic aspect of it, but 666 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: like what he's just saying. He's trying to say, go 667 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: out and like challenge yourself and like learn new skills, 668 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: and you know sometimes uh, you know, bad situations can 669 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: turn out well, okay, this was the first thing he 670 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: said decided needs to be talked about. I can't imagine 671 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: what he's going to say. Oh, I think epigenetically, you 672 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: actually do understand, because your ancestors had knowledge of this, 673 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: just like they knew about your evil uncle who was 674 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: the Catholic church and also talking to girls. If I'm understanding, 675 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: Dr Peterson promises, I think. I think you are. I've 676 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: gone through the stress of listening to him talk, and 677 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: now I've unlocked sneak. I have unlocked the skill of 678 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: my ancestors, which, as Italians, is cooking spicy meata balls. 679 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: Probably like chef. Is the modules you unlocked chef or criminal? 680 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: Those are the two options Italians, I guess fascists. So 681 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: three we have three options? Yes, Cody, Yes, how are 682 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: you feeling? Yes? How was it was episode one of 683 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: this what you had expected from Dr Jordan Balthasar Peterson. 684 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: It is dragons, monsters, and men, exactly what I thought 685 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: it was going to be. Um I I think I 686 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: saw a trailer At one point I was like, oh, 687 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: so he's just like talking in a chair. Yeah, he is, 688 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: just in fact talking at it I will say that 689 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: the credit sequence, uh did kind of surprise me a 690 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: little bit because it's like, like you expect, like a 691 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: little some overwrought, dorky, like intense kind of drag any 692 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but it was more than I expected. 693 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: It was very loud and and like unnecessary, and the 694 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: shift from like you see the thing is it's like 695 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: so funny and jarring. I love it. No, I don't. 696 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Cody's fine. It's like I also, I guess 697 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, but I think it's amusing that it 698 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: is like so many of these clips are like heard 699 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: him say that before, talks about that a lot. Well 700 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 1: there's a there's a sound, but I've heard ninety times 701 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: on various YouTube videos. Um, well, you know, maybe they're 702 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: getting their subscribers up and they're going to get that 703 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: Gina Kurano sci fi movie penned by the Ben Shapiro 704 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: out on Daily Wire Plus. And are they making an 705 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: actual sci fi movie? I saw Gina Krano in the 706 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: movie about Joe Biden, which includes a lot of editing 707 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: that I could do, and I don't know how to 708 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: edit because it looks like they're literally just taking like 709 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: an MS paint style app and like drawing over frames 710 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: funny how like poor the trailer it is dogshit it is. 711 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: It's actually like the trailer makes it look like funny bad, 712 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: but it really is not. It's just a terrible movie. 713 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: I bet I could. But it's like it's it looks 714 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: it looks made up, and not in the way that 715 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: all movies are made up, but like it looks like 716 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: a fake movie that someone is of the run time 717 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: is Joe Biden either sitting in a car talking to 718 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 1: his son or his son's sitting in a car talking 719 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: to a sex worker and like explaining laboriously crimes that 720 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: often don't sound like crimes because they're just like complicated 721 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 1: real estate deals or whatever. I don't know. It's very boring. 722 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: The only part of it that was funny is that 723 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: so they do you know who Victor Yunakovich was? Is 724 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: he was the former president of Ukraine who got overthrown 725 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand fourteen when he tried to do dictator ship. Anyway, 726 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 1: he's like he looks like a middle manager. He's got 727 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: like kind of strong Paul Manafort vibes, just kind of 728 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: not a very interesting looking guy, but like a full 729 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: head of hair and stuff. The dude they got to 730 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: cast him was like bald and jacked. Um, like, they 731 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: just got like a huge bald man who was fucking 732 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: shredded to play the former dictator of Ukraine for no 733 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: reason like there, I don't know why, You're just like, 734 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: we gotta make sure this guy is played by a 735 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: hot dude who's fucking shredded like it's it's it's nonsense, no, 736 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: because he's he's framed as a bad guy because it's 737 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: talking about like his he's clearly a bad guy and 738 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: he has some shady dealings with Hunter. It's like because 739 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: he is a bad I have no idea why they 740 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: did it the way they did it. It's it's completely incomprehensible. Um, 741 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: oh don't that was your first mistake. Don't try to 742 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: comprehend the Hunter Biden movie with Gina Kurano. Yeah, I 743 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: will never do that again. Cody, do you have any 744 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: plug doubles to plug? Oh the same. Check out some 745 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: more news on YouTube and even more news on podcast apps, 746 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: and keep your eye out for an album by a 747 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: band called the Hot Shapes. That is my band. I 748 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: don't know when this episode is coming out, so look 749 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, it'll come out one of these days, 750 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: perhaps during the holidays, so you know, hit your evil 751 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 1: uncle in the face in order to defeat the dragon 752 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: of spending Thanksgiving with the people who love you. Yes, 753 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: if you're evil uncle is a woman. If your evil 754 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: uncle is a woman, then bucker uh kill a dragon 755 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: in front of her. Okay, okay, okay, you can figure 756 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: it out from here. You're you're now armed with the 757 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: knowledge that is mightier than a sword anyway. 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