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Speaker 1: just I wanted to cover a concern. I have concern.

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Speaker 1: I have crime in big cities. We hate it. You

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Speaker 1: And we know you know as well as I do,

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Speaker 1: do it on purpose. They create this poverty, crime ridden

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Speaker 1: and first things first, does not like the filth and

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Speaker 1: he orders up the National Guard. And you cheered, and

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Speaker 1: The place is clean and safe. It's a place you

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Speaker 1: enjoy the new Korean War Memorial, Go enjoy the Vietnam Memorial.

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Speaker 1: Go enjoy your nation's capital. And when stuff like that happens,

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Speaker 1: here's what we do. We go, Oh, that's wonderful. Let's

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Speaker 1: do that everywhere. Let's do that in New York City,

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Speaker 2: Chicago, though, well, we're going in I didn't say when

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Speaker 2: we're going in. Washington, DC is a totally safe city.

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Speaker 2: You're not reporting any crime because there is none. They

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Speaker 2: said crime is down eighty seven percent, and I said, no,

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Speaker 1: We have a great thing going.

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Speaker 3: I could do that with Chicago.

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Speaker 4: We could do that with New York.

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Speaker 2: We could do it with Los Angeles. So we're making

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Speaker 3: It could have been stopped.

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Speaker 3: Three weeks ago, it was the same or worse.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hard to argue with anything he says there. And

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Speaker 1: Maybe the national guardess a solution. But I want to

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Speaker 1: make something perfectly clear. Washington d C is not Chicago

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Speaker 1: States government. That is territory. The United States government controls

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Speaker 1: It is working, it's working very well. Why did she

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Speaker 1: say that that dirty commy? She has no whether choice.

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Speaker 1: But the United States government does not control Chicago, does

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Speaker 5: Oh, are you prepared to defend this land? This land

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Speaker 1: The National Guard comes in unlike DC. The Chicago Police

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Speaker 1: There was an Epstein press conference yesterday. I kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a clown show. When I saw it,

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Speaker 3: the regime doesn't need They would need to blackmail you.

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Speaker 1: Mike, my brother. As always, I appreciate you come back.

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Speaker 7: Change has its enemies. That's why we need new blood

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Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation. Jennifer, can you do a backflip?

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Speaker 7: that chair for how long? I'm twenty twenty five years

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Speaker 7: while the chronic disease and our children went up to

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Speaker 7: seventy six percent and you said nothing?

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Speaker 1: Saturday?

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Speaker 6: Are you saying that.

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Speaker 7: Has never been as I was myer cardis or paracardis.

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Speaker 1: I am saying, I am simple.

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Speaker 10: You're trying to tell I am simply trying to say

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Speaker 10: that the people that you have put on that panel

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Speaker 10: after firing the entire evading the question. You No, I'm

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Speaker 10: asking the questions.

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Speaker 1: Here're evading that question.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking the questions they're going to have to go

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Speaker 4: off label.

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Speaker 6: This is crazy too, You're just to prescribe the vaccine

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Speaker 6: for children.

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Speaker 7: I'm not making things.

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Speaker 11: I don't.

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Speaker 7: You're so wrong on fact.

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Speaker 6: You're you're interrupting me, and sir, you're a charlatan.

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Speaker 7: You're making it up interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are.

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Speaker 7: You are getting dishonest.

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Speaker 8: Right, you want to talk about mental health and guns

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Speaker 8: you're being in this country.

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Speaker 4: If you want to talk.

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Speaker 8: About mental health and gun violence in this country, we

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Speaker 8: should be talking about that, because that's what the talking school.

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Speaker 7: You don't want to talk on a harangue. And you

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Speaker 7: want to be politically, you want to have partisan politics.

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Speaker 8: That was your promise.

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Speaker 7: I know I can't. I never promised that I was

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Speaker 7: going to recommend products with which there.

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Speaker 1: Is not really occasion.

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Speaker 7: Wait, you said, and I know you've taken eight hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty five thousand dollars from pharmaceutical company.

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Speaker 1: Senator, It's hard not to notice on the entertainment value,

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Speaker 1: how many big pharma talking points do come out of

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Speaker 1: these hearings. Just how bought is the United States Senate?

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Speaker 8: It seems to be greatly bought. I think there's two things.

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Speaker 8: I think there's money involved, You're always going to get people,

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Speaker 8: like I said, kicking and screaming when they were being

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Speaker 8: paid a lot. But also, if I'm being generous, some

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Speaker 8: of these people, this is their orthodoxy, this is their religion. Otherwise,

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Speaker 8: why aren't they willing and open to hear alternative I

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Speaker 8: don't want to say alternative facts, but dissenting data on

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Speaker 8: a product that didn't work, particularly on the COVID vaccines.

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Speaker 8: What I can't seem to get my head around is

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Speaker 8: why they are so entrenched on keeping these available for

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Speaker 8: children when you know, at the best they did nothing,

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Speaker 8: They were ineffectual. At the worst, they harmed young adults

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Speaker 8: with myocarditis like he was trying to get out there periocarditis.

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Speaker 8: There's evidence of that. Are they what are they hanging on?

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Speaker 8: I think part of it is an identity crisis. They

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Speaker 8: place their identity in some sort of boogie savior, right,

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Speaker 8: some sort of Christ that they believe is going to

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Speaker 8: save the world, like a vaccine.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise, I don't understand.

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Speaker 8: It challenges the core of who they are and everything

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Speaker 8: they've believed up until this point. Vaccine saved the world,

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Speaker 8: you know, despite the fact that a lot of the

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Speaker 8: kind of the health and the healing from a lot

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Speaker 8: of these diseases has come from sanitation measures, cleaning up

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Speaker 8: kind of sewage and medical practices.

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Speaker 4: Right, not necessary. We don't know that vaccines.

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Speaker 8: A lot of them have been given after the fact,

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Speaker 8: when disease rates were already starting to come down. Was

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Speaker 8: it the vaccine or was it just natural immunity. There's

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Speaker 8: a lot of questions around these and why they are

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Speaker 8: holding on so tightly, I think is when you and

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Speaker 8: we've discussed this about the ideology, when when something becomes

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Speaker 8: your identity and something, there's a crack in that, right

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Speaker 8: you believe in something for so long, there's a crack,

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Speaker 8: You start to go, well, what else have I been

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Speaker 8: lied to about? What else do I believe That's false?

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Speaker 8: I think we're seeing some of that, but obviously the

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Speaker 8: money is a good source of their resistance as well.

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Speaker 1: What do we what do we know now about all

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Speaker 1: these childhood vaccines. It's a topic of endless debate back

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Speaker 1: and forth. Some people will say it kills kids, it

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Speaker 1: causes autism, it saves kids. If you want to cause

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Speaker 1: an online debate, just say anything on either side of

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Speaker 1: the childhood vaccine thing and get ready for the barking

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Speaker 1: hyenas to start snarling. What do we know?

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Speaker 8: We don't know enough, and that's the point. We want

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Speaker 8: better research. We want to understand. No, there have been

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Speaker 8: no truly double blind, placebo controlled trials on vaccines. That's

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Speaker 8: exactly what Kennedy is calling for. That's what the CDC

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Speaker 8: and kind of the new guard at the CDC is

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Speaker 8: calling for. We don't know enough. We don't know enough

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Speaker 8: about what's causing autism. We want to have funding for

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Speaker 8: good research and to say that the science is settled.

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Speaker 8: Kind of going back to his confirmation hearing the science

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Speaker 8: is never settled.

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Speaker 4: Why can't we question.

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Speaker 8: Something is going wrong? And why are we insisting on

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Speaker 8: following the people that were heads of the agency when

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Speaker 8: the thing started to go wrong? Like Kennedy makes some

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Speaker 8: really good points, it's almost laughable. Like you said, it's

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Speaker 8: good entertainment because aside it from being very sad, it

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Speaker 8: is kind of good comedy because I think these these

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Speaker 8: senators are making fools of themselves.

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Speaker 4: There's something.

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Speaker 8: They're so adamant that something's up.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer, why is the Heritage Foundation pushing for a new

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Speaker 1: Manhattan project? Who are we going to new.

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Speaker 8: Yes, we're not nuking anyone. Leave it to the liberal

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Speaker 8: media to scandalize something that is really common sense that

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Speaker 8: everybody knows is that the nuclear family is the foundation

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Speaker 8: for a great America and even a healthier America. And

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Speaker 8: you know, shocker, Heritage Foundation supports family policy. We're doing

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Speaker 8: what we've always done. We're just kind of putting more

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Speaker 8: focus on it. We're excited to release exactly what we've

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Speaker 8: been working on, and the Washington Post thank you, like

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Speaker 8: our domestic policy had Roger Severino mentioned in the article,

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Speaker 8: thanks for bringing attention to it, and we're excited to

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Speaker 8: roll out what we actually recommend. You know, there are studies,

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Speaker 8: as we know, children do best with a mother and

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Speaker 8: a father and a nuclear family. I kind of lived

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Speaker 8: the liberal ideologies we've talked about ad nauseum, and even

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Speaker 8: as someone who's not married without kids, I understand the

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Speaker 8: benefits of it for a rightly ordered society, for a

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Speaker 8: civil society, and that's really what we're about.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer It sentenced me. I saw a recent charge you've

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Speaker 1: talked about. I'm sure you've seen it that shows you know,

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Speaker 1: we talk about birth rates, but right wingers are reproducing

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Speaker 1: in fact, they're reproducing above replacement level. They are getting

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Speaker 1: married and they're making babies, and they're moving on and

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Speaker 1: being happy. But left wingers simply are not. That's what

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Speaker 1: That's what all the following birth rates are about. And

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Speaker 1: I know we're supposed to celebrate that because the kooky

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Speaker 1: commies aren't aren't reproducing, But I find that to be

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Speaker 1: so incredibly sad that half of our society is just

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Speaker 1: kind of checked.

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Speaker 4: Out of it, right, And I feel the same way. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I always say I'm not.

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Speaker 8: I think we need to be very careful between identifying

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Speaker 8: as a libertarian or conservative conservative. Part of a conservative

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Speaker 8: platform is caring what happens to us as a country

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Speaker 8: as community, as our fellow citizens.

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Speaker 4: What does it mean to be a citizen. It means to.

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Speaker 8: Work together in this kind of political environment, in this

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Speaker 8: cultural environment, to have the greatest benefit for the most

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Speaker 8: amount of people. That's what politics aims to do. And

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Speaker 8: you're right, it does make us sad at heritage when

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Speaker 8: we see women who kind of condemn marriage, saying the

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Speaker 8: very thing that they were born to do is kind

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Speaker 8: of a scourge on their life and doesn't bring them

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Speaker 8: joy or restricts their freedom it's kind of sad. I mean,

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Speaker 8: me being older and not being able to have children.

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Speaker 8: I look at babies and I get a little bit

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Speaker 8: of regret. I don't have much in my life. God

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Speaker 8: took me down the path he was meant to. But

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Speaker 8: you know, I get a little sad that I don't

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Speaker 8: have children, and I try to channel that instead of

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Speaker 8: being angry at people or lashing out. I try to

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Speaker 8: channel that in other ways. I play with my kids,

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Speaker 8: my friend's children's and my boyfriend's kids. I get active

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Speaker 8: and watching them participates in sports. So you know, you

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Speaker 8: don't have to go down that path to acknowledge that

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Speaker 8: it's helpful for society, that it's good for children. I

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Speaker 8: think we need to start, just like Kennedy is saying

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Speaker 8: with America, make America healthy again. We need to start

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Speaker 8: thinking about the children and what we're leaving behind for

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Speaker 8: them and the kind of life they're going to inherit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, plus you can do other things women are meant

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Speaker 1: to do. Let cook and clean. Jennifer, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Come back soon. We'll be back sure

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Speaker 1: well by now, unless you're a complete moron or living

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Speaker 1: under a rock somewhere you figured out that Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: wants to be president of the United States, and he's

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Speaker 1: quite obviously running already to be president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: But Gavin Newsom has a problem. He's governor of California.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful and wonderful as California is, it's viewed as a

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Speaker 1: complete commie, left wing kookie state full of nutballs, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a hard sell in swing states.

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Speaker 1: And Gavin Newsom is no moron, he knows this. So

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Speaker 1: what's the game. Well, he's having sharp people on the

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Speaker 1: right on to I guess spar with a little maybe

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Speaker 1: joining me. Now. One of those people Sean Spicer, who

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Speaker 1: you know, host of the wonderful Sean Spicer's show. Sean,

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Speaker 1: you went and sat down with the old governor. How

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Speaker 1: was that?

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Speaker 6: Actually kind of enjoyed it. You know, we had a

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Speaker 6: really interesting civil discussion.

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Speaker 11: I think, look, he's got a big audience, there's no

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Speaker 11: doubt about it. And I got to make a pretty

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Speaker 11: I think compelling case about what President Trump's doing and

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Speaker 11: why his policies are moving to president the country in

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Speaker 11: the right direction. So if I can open the eyes

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Speaker 11: up of a bunch of people who don't see that.

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Speaker 6: That's great, right.

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Speaker 11: You and I both have shows on the first television

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Speaker 11: networking on YouTube, and I think when people on the

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Speaker 11: left have their eyes opened to the reality of what's

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Speaker 11: going on and the policies that were offering in the

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Speaker 11: solutions and the results.

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Speaker 6: A lot of times I hear people saying I've never

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Speaker 6: heard that before.

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Speaker 11: Huh, So I'm sort of evangelizing the left. I think

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Speaker 11: anyway getting out there. I'll take any opportunity. I'll go

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Speaker 11: to any forum.

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Speaker 6: My view is we're right.

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Speaker 11: You know that phrase, and I like we should be

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Speaker 11: willing to take our message pretty much anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Sean, what was your measure of the guy? Obviously I've

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Speaker 1: never met him personally. Many people who have have opinions

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Speaker 1: all over the place. I am concerned concerned that he's

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Speaker 1: going to make or run at it. He's a prolific fundraiser,

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Speaker 1: has access to a whole bunch of money. Governor of

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Speaker 1: the richest, most powerful state in the Union. I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to make a very serious run at it.

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Speaker 6: Do you one hundred percent? One hundred percent?

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Speaker 11: He is like, Look, I talked to him off camera

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Speaker 11: about this because I do a morning show on my

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Speaker 11: YouTube channel called The Morning Meeting, and Mark Halper and

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Speaker 11: I have a little bit of bet going. I believe

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Speaker 11: there's no question he's running for a million reasons. Mark

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Speaker 11: is less certain. And so I said to him off camera,

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Speaker 11: I meant to say it on the show, but we

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Speaker 11: ran a Thomas said, you know, we got a little

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Speaker 11: bet going, and he said, you know, I don't feel

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Speaker 11: like I'm betraying anything, but he said, look, I am,

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Speaker 11: I'm thinking about it. I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 11: about that. But you know, the guy's got a family.

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Speaker 11: And one of the things that you realize in these

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Speaker 11: conversations Jesse, is you know there are things that do

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Speaker 11: bind us together. We both have young kids. We had

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Speaker 11: an opportunity to talk off camera about the challenges that

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Speaker 11: kids face on social media, and so there are some

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Speaker 11: things on a personal level that you can have a

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Speaker 11: discussion with somebody about that that aren't necessarily political in nature,

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Speaker 11: that you might share some common issues with.

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Speaker 6: And in this case, I think we both had a very.

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Speaker 11: Off camera discussion about the challenges that young kids face

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Speaker 11: today and with respect to social media. And so I

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Speaker 11: say that because I think he's running for a million reasons.

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Speaker 11: One of which if you and I said to him,

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Speaker 11: you know, when I looked at the media that you

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Speaker 11: got when he went to South Carolina, any political aid

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Speaker 11: would say that it was really well executed. And then

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Speaker 11: a couple of days later, Governor Brashiera Kentucky went and

671
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Speaker 11: it was abysmal.

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Speaker 6: So if you're Governor Newsome.

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Speaker 11: And you go do a trip like this and you realize, Wow,

674
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Speaker 11: whatever I'm doing is resonating with my left wing base.

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Speaker 11: But when my fellow governors go they get panned, you

676
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Speaker 11: gotta think. I mean, you can't be in office as

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Speaker 11: long as Gavin Newsom has without a pretty healthy ego.

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Speaker 11: I don't think that anyone would ever doubt that he

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Speaker 11: probably would agree with that. And I think that when

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Speaker 11: you realize how weak this field is, and let's be honest,

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Speaker 11: I mean, we're grading on a curve here, you've got

682
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Speaker 11: to say to yourself, I gotta do it.

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Speaker 6: I gotta do it for the good of my party.

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Speaker 6: So there's no question in my mind he is running.

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Speaker 1: And part of the.

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Speaker 11: Reason that I think he's doing this podcast is so

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Speaker 11: that he can say that he's having meetings and discussions

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Speaker 11: with people.

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Speaker 1: Sean, how does he hold up when he stands on

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Speaker 1: that debate stage with AOC on one side of him

691
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Speaker 1: and Jasmine Crockett on the other side of him, and

692
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: they're coming out for full blown communism. There, I need

693
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Speaker 1: reparations every kooky idea because they try to sell books

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Speaker 1: and make a name for themselves getting to the left

695
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Speaker 1: of him, and he can't take that position and then

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Speaker 1: have a hope or a prayer of winning Pennsylvania, wisconsinin

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Speaker 1: or Michigan. How do you navigate that minefield?

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Speaker 11: Well, look, as I said a moment ago, the guy's

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Speaker 11: been in office for like sixty years. He was mayor

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Speaker 11: of San Francisco, lieutenant governor, governor, so he's been adept

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Speaker 11: at dealing with this. And obviously, if you can get

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Speaker 11: elected statewide in California for as long as he has,

703
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Speaker 11: you clearly don't have to handle a very liberal base.

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Speaker 11: So I would actually argue that he probably is better

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Speaker 11: at this than almost anybody, which is sort of how

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Speaker 11: do you say something appealing to your base without really

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Speaker 11: getting into deep to it.

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Speaker 6: That's where I think, And look, this is not his

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Speaker 6: first rodeo.

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Speaker 11: I would you know, juxtapose that to AOC and Crockett

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Speaker 11: in particular, can throw out a bunch of words, but

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Speaker 11: they're an inch deep at best.

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Speaker 6: I think that's probably being generous.

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Speaker 11: So one thing about Newsom is that he has been

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Speaker 11: on the big the big stage. He has taken some

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Speaker 11: serious at bats, which unlike that. I mean, those guys,

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Speaker 11: they are Their idea of a tough interview is Rachel Maddow.

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Speaker 11: So I will say this the governor, and I think

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Speaker 11: part of the reason that he's having these discussions he

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Speaker 11: had one with me, he had one with Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 11: he had one with Steve Bannon, is that it's kind

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Speaker 11: of like it's it's spring training for him. He's like, Okay,

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Speaker 11: how do I take on you know, conservatives, maga types,

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Speaker 11: uh and engage with them? Look at I mean, look, look,

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Speaker 11: you could watch the conversation that we had and you'll

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Speaker 11: see we never raise our voice and never got mad.

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Speaker 11: I think I made some pretty strong points and pushed

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Speaker 11: back on on on his liberal positions.

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Speaker 6: But I think he's he's he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 11: The guy's a shrewd politician, right and and I think

731
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Speaker 11: he is he is trying to get ready for this race.

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Speaker 11: And that's where I think the funny part is the

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Speaker 11: guys on the left, the Jasmine Crocketts, the AOC's, et cetera.

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Speaker 11: They're they're talking to themselves and that's great for a primary.

735
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Speaker 11: But but Javin Newsom's he's already thinking ahead. And as

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Speaker 11: I said earlier, Jesse, you look at this field. It

737
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Speaker 11: is so pathetic. I literally I think to myself, if

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Speaker 11: I were a Democratic governor right now, why wouldn't you

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Speaker 11: get into this race?

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Speaker 6: It is so pathetically weak.

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Speaker 1: Is there a concern, Sean that you're helping him get ready?

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it's spring training, Well, you're the opposition team

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Speaker 1: helping him get ready for the season. Is there a

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Speaker 1: concern with that? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I got a bunch of pushback and said, you're platforming

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Speaker 11: this guy. You've got two hundred thousand people. Look at

747
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Speaker 11: the end of the day, if you're watching Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 11: I would argue the opposite. I'm out there evangelizing these

749
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Speaker 11: folks who have gotten spoon fed left wing talking points

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Speaker 11: and told that Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: Is horrible and bad.

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Speaker 11: And I got on the Gavin Newsom's I got platformed

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Speaker 11: by him to tell his audience why what Donald Trump

754
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Speaker 11: is doing and what the MAGA movement is doing, is

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Speaker 11: moving this country.

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Speaker 6: In a better, safer, more prosperous way.

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Speaker 11: So you know, look, if we want to talk to ourselves,

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Speaker 11: then great. But at the end of the day, what

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump did in the last life, he went places,

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Speaker 11: He did things that no other politician would do, and

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Speaker 11: he was rewarded with the popular vote in winning every

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Speaker 11: battleground state. It wasn't because he sat in a hole

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Speaker 11: and just talked to you know, went on war room

764
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Speaker 11: with Steve Bannon or I'm right with Jesse Kelly or

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Speaker 11: even Sean Spicer.

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Speaker 6: This guy went everywhere and he put a message and

767
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Speaker 6: he was rewarded with not just the votes.

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Speaker 11: We think about the number of young men, black men

769
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Speaker 11: and women black men, and you know, Hispanics. He was

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Speaker 11: rewarded because he went places and he took that message

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Speaker 11: of America first and a results oriented record. And so

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Speaker 11: that's what I think. We've got to do that kind

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Speaker 11: of stuff. Now we do it without fear of favor.

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Speaker 11: If you watched that interview with.

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Speaker 6: Gavin eastim I pushed back. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 11: I'm not there to play like suck up to the host,

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Speaker 11: which is what a lot of Republicans do on Sunday shows.

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Speaker 6: Oh, Kristen, Margaret, thanks for having me on. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 11: You know what I mean today that I'm My view

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Speaker 11: is we should be unapologetic in our support for the

782
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Speaker 11: America First agenda and the results that we're getting, order, security, crime,

783
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Speaker 11: Donald Trump's doing in DC, tax cuts, tariffs. I mean, look,

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Speaker 11: I'm out there and I said at the beginning of

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Speaker 11: the of my appearance with him that I'm very proud

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Speaker 11: of what Donald Trump is doing. I'm very proud to

787
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Speaker 11: be a fiscal and social conservative. So as long as

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Speaker 11: we lead with pride in our positions, I think we

789
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 11: should go everywhere and do everything. The difference is that,

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Speaker 11: as I said, too many Republicans go on these shows

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Speaker 11: and just you're right, Oh, that's an area of agreement.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much. Through that, let's take let's be.

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Speaker 11: Proud of what we're fighting for and spread and evangelize

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Speaker 11: the brand.

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Speaker 1: Sean you mentioned, well, you've said you think JD. Vance

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Speaker 1: is going to be the next president, which of course

797
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Speaker 1: begs the question. I know we're getting way ahead of ourselves,

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Speaker 1: but that's fun, isn't it. Who's the VP? Are Rubio?

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Speaker 1: Is it to say it this is it some dark

800
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: horse we don't see.

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Speaker 6: Look, it's very possible.

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Speaker 11: The one thing that's interesting, like I had a conversation

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Speaker 11: with a guy named Nate Morris the other day. He's

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Speaker 11: running for the Senate in Kentucky. Good friend of JD's,

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Speaker 11: He's gotten to know him. My point in saying that,

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Speaker 11: Jesse is that JD is going to cultivate a whole

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Speaker 11: other group of folks into the America First Agenda. Now,

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Speaker 11: on his face, I think Marco Rubio would be fantastic.

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Speaker 11: He is shown to be an unbelievable warrior in the

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Speaker 11: America First Agenda Secretary of State. But my former colleague

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Speaker 11: Sarah Huckeby Sanders has been really digging into the MAHA

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Speaker 11: movement in Arkansas, making Arkansas a better state, a healthier state.

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Speaker 6: So she'd be another great pick. Look, the one difference.

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Speaker 11: Between our side and theirs is that you and I

815
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Speaker 11: could probably spend two hours going back and forth creating

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Speaker 11: a list, and that would be the short list of

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Speaker 11: people who would make a great vice president. I can't

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Speaker 11: even tell you who'd make a great president on the left.

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Speaker 11: And I'm being trying to be objective, and that's the

820
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Speaker 11: difference between our side and theirs. We're full of ideas.

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Speaker 11: You think about Trump's cabinet. I've said this every time

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Speaker 11: when Trump has a cabinet meeting, I get excited. It's

823
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Speaker 11: like a report card to the American people. Every one

824
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Speaker 11: of them goes around the room and has to say,

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Speaker 11: here's what I've done in the last thirty days.

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Speaker 6: And every one of them, I go, you know what,

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Speaker 6: that person.

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Speaker 1: Could be a vice president.

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Speaker 11: They many of them could be president. So our side

830
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Speaker 11: on the right is not lacking in depth. Their side

831
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Speaker 11: is really pathetic.

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Speaker 1: What about Glenn Youngkin, Sean, It's hard to ignore the

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Speaker 1: man who won the governorship in a state that was

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Speaker 1: thought to be very blue, has done quite well in

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Speaker 1: that state, yet you never hear his name.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I live in that state.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look, I think Governor Younkin's done a lot

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Speaker 11: of good in Virginia.

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Speaker 6: I'm, you know, considering.

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Speaker 1: Where we were.

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Speaker 11: But a couple of things politically, and I don't mean

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Speaker 11: this in a disparaging way, Jesse, but Youngkin mccauliffe lost

843
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Speaker 11: that race more than Younkin won it. And when we

844
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Speaker 11: look at what we've got, we've lost the House, We've

845
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Speaker 11: lost the Senate under his tenure. So I would just

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Speaker 11: argue that, look, I he's been a great governor, So

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Speaker 11: I'm not I'm trying to be disparaging. But at the

848
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Speaker 11: end of the day, what are you campaigning on? What

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Speaker 11: have you done in the Comwealth of Virginia.

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Speaker 6: We lost both houses of.

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Speaker 11: You know, the state legislature here in Virginia, So I'm

852
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 11: really not sure what you campaign on.

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Speaker 6: What is it that you What is it that he did.

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Speaker 11: He didn't cut taxes, he didn't There's no there's nothing

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Speaker 11: that he can turn to and say, I got this

856
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Speaker 11: done and I'm campaigning on it. So I think you know, look,

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Speaker 11: he did a great job getting Virginia back on track

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Speaker 11: considering where it was headed. Terry mcauff would have been

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00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 11: an absolute disaster as governor again. But at the end

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Speaker 11: of the day, as somebody listened in the Commonwealth of Virginia,

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Speaker 11: I'm not entirely sure what the case that he would

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Speaker 11: make would be.

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Speaker 1: Sean, thank you as always, my brother, come back to

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Speaker 1: light the mood. That's be very grateful you still live

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Speaker 1: in the United States of America. As we lighten the

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Speaker 1: mood here because we still have some semblance of freedom

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Speaker 1: in this country. And if the government turns to evil,

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Speaker 1: we have lots of guns to do something about it.

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Speaker 1: They don't have that luxury over there in the UK.

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Speaker 1: And we're watching in real time as that government gets

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Speaker 1: more and more evil, the people get more and more angry,

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Speaker 1: and who knows where this is going to go. British

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Speaker 1: comedy writer Graham Linehan, he put up a tweet, just

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Speaker 1: put up a tweet saying, you know, it's essentially men

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Speaker 1: can't become women kind of a thing. You know, get

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Speaker 1: the training nonsense out of here, It's all he said.

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Speaker 1: Well he gets arrested, surrounded by cops and arrested the

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Speaker 1: second he gets to the UK. This is the kind

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Speaker 1: of courage. This is how you push back against tyrants.

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Speaker 1: This is how he showed up to court. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a few words I had him put in here.

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Speaker 12: And guys, oh well, I'm never gonna saying that's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I'll see it the more.

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