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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are a Wednesday. No, it's Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: My god, I can't even keep the day straight. It's

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker with you. Correct And uh, I'm realizing that I

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Speaker 2: got to pass these notes along to you. I didn't

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Speaker 2: do that yet. I'm I'm just all out of sorts

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Speaker 2: today because I'm trying to prepare our podcast episode for

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Speaker 2: this week, trying.

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Speaker 1: To do the work I usually do of two people,

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Speaker 1: you and me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm working on I'm trying to work on two

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Speaker 2: fronts today and it's I don't know what it is like.

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Speaker 2: My wife would be the first to tell you. Multitasking

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Speaker 2: is not necessarily my strong suit. I'm very like blinders on,

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Speaker 2: narrowly focused.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, you're not alone. I mean that

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Speaker 1: I feel for you because the weather has been spectacular

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Speaker 1: the last a handful of days, and man, anything else

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Speaker 1: you do except be outside is just tedium.

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Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I went to the driving range yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and I know I was talking to you about that

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Speaker 2: because I think I figured out my driver problems.

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Speaker 1: Here. You've been afflicted with golf. Now you're done. Well,

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Speaker 1: I fixed yourself once. Now you well, I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I just don't want to embarrass myself.

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm looking to do is be be a

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Speaker 2: relatively competent double to triple bogie golfer.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Well, Listen, depending on who you play with,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty low bar. I played with some bad dude man, well,

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Speaker 1: and I was one of them. I yeah, I'm one

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Speaker 1: of the guys. You bring people to your like I'm

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Speaker 1: a member of a club here in town. You take

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Speaker 1: people out there. It's kind of a nice course. People,

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Speaker 1: you know, they've spread everywhere, and you go out and help.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all help each other look for the

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Speaker 1: golf ball, right, and they're always also apologetic. Got it?

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Speaker 1: You know? I said, you know, I've been a member

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Speaker 1: of this club for thirty years. There isn't a patch

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Speaker 1: of grass in this place. I haven't been through twenty

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Speaker 1: five times looking for golf. Don't worry about it. Let's

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Speaker 1: just find your golf ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What is uncanny about that, though, is you can inherit

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Speaker 2: just as many balls as you lose. Because I will

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Speaker 2: be out there in the rough or the spinach, and

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for myball, and I inevitably find a different.

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Speaker 1: Ball, lose theirs, find your net plus one.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Like it's funny. I'll forget what my score

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Speaker 2: was on a certain hole, but when I finish my round,

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Speaker 2: I've known, I know where I am plus minus on

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Speaker 2: the ball.

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Speaker 1: I've got a bushel basket, a big muck bucket in

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Speaker 1: my garage. It's so full of found golf balls. My wife,

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Speaker 1: Dick snade anymore found golf balls coming home from the course,

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Speaker 1: so really so I'm I can't. I'm not allowed to

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Speaker 1: bring any found golf balls home anymore except that. And

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Speaker 1: I have also have a five gallon bucket that is overflowing.

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Speaker 2: Five gallon bucket of from foul.

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Speaker 1: A bushel basket this big, that's full, like like heaping full.

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Speaker 1: It's it's two and a half feet across around and

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Speaker 1: two feet deep and it's over full. So I had

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Speaker 1: to put you know, I started a five gallon bucket.

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Speaker 1: Now it's over full. Yeah, it's a tough course that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just how do you accumulate so many?

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just happy if I break eat it?

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Speaker 1: Does it doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't happen over night,

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Speaker 1: or it doesn't happen in one season. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you just keep them. And then I feel like some

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Speaker 1: point when I get when I when I get rich

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Speaker 1: and famous, I'm gonna put one of those fame those

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Speaker 1: fake green you know, those AstroTurf greens out in my back.

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Speaker 1: I got a property for it to put it out there, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put one of those in. Then I'll have,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll have like and I hit a thousand

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Speaker 1: golf balls onto it. But until that happens, it got

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Speaker 2: Not holding youth, right, Okay, right, I mean.

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Speaker 1: You got it. I'll show you my my golf ball

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Speaker 1: stash when you when you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta that's a lot like it takes. You

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Speaker 2: gotta have because you figure a large bucket at a

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Speaker 2: driving range is like seventy five it's and a five

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Speaker 2: gallon bucket's like more than twice that size in terms

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Speaker 2: of within height. So you're talking like, if I do

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Speaker 2: the I would bet you have two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: Oh, I bet I have fifty maybe twenty five to

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Speaker 1: fifty dozen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, so you're more like and I three

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Speaker 1: Balls yeah easily, wow, easily, okay, easily.

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Speaker 2: Color me surprised.

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Speaker 1: I threw a couple of them in last night. I

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Speaker 1: I now I have And this is the truth. Like

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Speaker 1: sometimes I walk. I like to walk, because you really

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Speaker 1: golf cart. Right, if I'm riding a golf cart, I'll

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Speaker 1: start throwing those golf balls in the you know cart

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I'll take right.

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Speaker 1: So now I've come to the fact that I don't

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Speaker 1: even I don't even get them out. I just put

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Speaker 1: back and it's got full. All these old guy goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: you want all these? I'm like, I do not, don't

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Speaker 1: need them, do not need. And there's some like pro

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Speaker 1: v the whole thing, high end golf balls, brand you know,

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not in that territory yet. If I find one,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty happy actually.

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Speaker 1: And some of them, some of them are my golf

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Speaker 1: balls that are that have scruffed up. You know that

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Speaker 1: I don't want to use anymore. I throw them in there,

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Speaker 1: but usually for most guys, I'm like most guys, and

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Speaker 1: you'll probably like this too. You use a golf ball

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Speaker 1: until you lose it?

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Speaker 2: Answer, yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: See now I'm at the point in my life where

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Speaker 1: I'll use it until I don't like the vibe or

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Speaker 1: the vibe right or got orts got a scrape on it?

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Speaker 2: We got to stop right now?

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Speaker 1: Well, it gets a scrape on it. It's like the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking at it, it's got a like a

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Speaker 1: cart pass scrape on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay? Or I'm like that can to dramatically affect the

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Speaker 1: Well, they say it would, but what do I know?

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Speaker 1: The adage is this, Let me ask you this. Do

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Speaker 1: you know the difference between a five dollars golf ball

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Speaker 1: It's three fifty. Yeah, that's all. That's the difference for

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Speaker 1: most of us. It's three fifty. That's the difference. But

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Speaker 1: you got this golf ball and just got a scrape

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Speaker 1: on or whatever. You're standing over it. She's like, I

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Speaker 1: want to look not you know, I want to look nice,

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Speaker 1: like having your car.

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Speaker 2: No one can see that mark on the ball except you.

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Speaker 1: That's why I call it a vibe. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: The thing's okay. Things already betrayed me. Once going off

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Speaker 1: the cart path or off that tree. Your time is done.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get no second chances. There's second chances. Every

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Speaker 1: ball I've got gets the second chance, at least unless

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Speaker 1: I skank it off the first tea and lose it,

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Speaker 1: which has happened fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Uh. We don't really have a whole lot of Bills

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Speaker 2: notes today, but we do have Around the NFL, which

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Speaker 2: is brought to you by Collida Health, the official healthcare

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Speaker 2: system of the Buffalo Bills. And we'll have more of

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Speaker 2: a look around the NFL later on in the show

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Speaker 2: as well, when we catch up with Boston Sports Journal's

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Speaker 2: Mike Giardi to talk some Patriots and how they're off season.

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Speaker 2: Is gone Around the NFL, presented by Kalida Healthy, official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with

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Speaker 2: a signing. The Steelers and safety Deshaun Elliott agreed to

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Speaker 2: terms on a two year, twelve and a half million

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Speaker 2: dollar extension. This according to an NFL Network report. If

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Speaker 2: you remember, Elliott signed as a free agent last offseason

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Speaker 2: as he left Miami went to Pittsburgh, and he was

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Speaker 2: one of the guys that outed the Dolphins as being

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Speaker 2: soft because he was in that locker room and he said, welleah,

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Speaker 2: we were a soft team.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have never been accused of being soft. So

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Speaker 1: he was correct one extreme to the other. And he's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: look at this, what a difference. Yeah, hey, you guys

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Speaker 2: And so he just signed an extension.

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Speaker 1: Bless his heart. He's not the only one, though. I

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Speaker 1: there have been others. Yeah, and there have been signs

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Speaker 1: that you can see without a telescope that those guys

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Speaker 1: are something else is going on there. When they got

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio fired, when you got guys like Tyreek who

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Speaker 2: I still remember the NFL Films clip because they had

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Speaker 2: I think they're down by a score, maybe ten points,

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Speaker 2: and Tyreek leave steps off the field and Wada looks

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Speaker 2: I'm out, Thanks for coming man. That's you still talk

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Speaker 2: about the Anthony and Richardson, I got to take a

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Speaker 1: And I get it too now listening, guy can come

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Speaker 1: it's common that a guy will come off the field,

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Speaker 1: obviously for an injury, or even if it's not an injury.

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Speaker 1: If you got whacked and you you gotta shake something off.

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta roll your ankle, you gotta walk

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Speaker 1: it off, or you get hitting the shins, you got

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Speaker 1: to walk it off.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: Also, you got a receiver, it's late in the game.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to hit the you know, and you got

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Speaker 1: this guy. You've run three nine three go routes in

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Speaker 1: a row, or two go routes in a row, and

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Speaker 1: it just makes sense come off of it, say listen,

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Speaker 1: I need to break. I got to catch my breath

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Speaker 1: for one second. Can somebody else run a sixty yard sprint?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's there's certainly accept perfectly when you come

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Speaker 1: off the field when you're when the other team's in

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Speaker 1: a two minute drill and you line up even a

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Speaker 1: big guy, even the big guys kind of listen, I

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Speaker 1: need to break, perfectly acceptable, and that's a coming off

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Speaker 1: because you're just mad is not an acceptable excuse frustrated,

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Speaker 1: getting getting blown out. I need to I don't know

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Speaker 1: what Anthony Richardson's is, just needing to break. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: are certain things you just don't come off the field for.

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Speaker 2: Oh he did it on a third down.

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Speaker 1: If I remember the third down coming up? Yeah, that's rough.

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Speaker 2: Well right now, his shoulder isn't healthy enough to even

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Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks, the Cleveland Browns are quote absolu absolutely

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Speaker 2: GM Andrew Berry having Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco and draft

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Speaker 1: Will all four quarterbacks play?

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Speaker 2: You understand why? And here they are in order. Let's

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Speaker 1: Hello, it's been nice to know you, Kevin Stefanski. They Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the over under for the four quarterbacks? How many

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Speaker 1: of them play in those games? Three? First six?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say three.

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Speaker 1: I love it might be three point five. Bengals, Ravens, Packers, Lions, Bengals, Ravens, Packers, Lions.

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Speaker 1: You won't. You're gonna see three in those four.

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Speaker 1: Then by the time you get to the Steelers game,

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Speaker 2: I am not completely convinced of that. I think Flacco

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Speaker 1: So he's done it before.

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Speaker 1: Well you don't think, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think Ravens is a different story. That could go horribly.

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Speaker 2: That's I'm I'm just telling you right now. I'm not convinced.

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Speaker 2: I'm not convinced they're putting four on the fifty three

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Speaker 2: the event of injury, it seems counterproductive. But they've kind

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Speaker 2: you could protect one of them on the practice squad

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Speaker 2: I suppose every week so they don't get poached from you.

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Speaker 2: But you could very easily put pick or on a

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Speaker 1: You know? What team you're talking about right now at

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Speaker 1: head So what are they losing by fine, like like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got to find a guy, I understand.

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Speaker 2: And it's gonna be musical chairs. I think we all

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Speaker 1: You got me on that Brownie because that that.

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Speaker 2: I thought. The Giants schedule the first six games for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Steelers and the quarterbacks are all going to be there.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers is the easiest game there of those first six.

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Speaker 2: And then it's all three.

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Speaker 1: There are three division rivals and three of the LFC

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's gonna be own sick. They might well be Owen.

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Speaker 1: They might win one of their division game. They might

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Speaker 1: All four qbs on field for brown.

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Speaker 2: reporting that the Panthers have talked to free agents safety

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna I think he'll sign with Miami.

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Speaker 2: Don't kill it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, break the bank exactly.

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Speaker 2: Bump it up to seven million and call it a day.

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Speaker 2: That's why he's attractive on the trade market. And the

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know what that money is.

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Speaker 2: the backfield. So really the number two receiver for the Jets,

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Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes, is like the number four

439
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Speaker 2: target in the pecking order.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it may be different now with Aaron Glenni's

441
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Speaker 1: head coat those guys, I mean, everything's kind of flipped

442
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Speaker 1: up on its end right now, so they don't really know.

443
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Speaker 1: But the thing that's interesting to me is the Alan

444
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Speaker 1: Lazard stuff about the trade to Pittsburgh. I mean we

445
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: saw it happen with Aaron when he went to the Jet.

446
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Speaker 1: They were picking up all his old buddies.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, now they're talking about yeah Lazard going to

448
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Speaker 2: the Steelers, just following Rogers ro So whatever topic of

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Speaker 2: discussion for you today. We had a little fun yesterday

450
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Speaker 2: talking about fielding of basketball starting five with Bills players

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Speaker 2: on the roster. Today we're talking in summertime, because summer

452
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Speaker 2: is finally here. We wait long enough for it. Lord

453
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Speaker 2: knows that here in western New York. But you kind

454
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Speaker 2: of fall out of the football mode when the nice

455
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Speaker 2: weather's here. You're out, you're doing other stuff. You're going

456
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Speaker 2: to concerts, you know, maybe you're hitting the beach, lounging

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Speaker 2: by the pool. What is it that kicks you back

458
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Speaker 2: into football mode? What is the trigger that gets you

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Speaker 2: right back on the horse and thinking all football all

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Speaker 2: the time? Eight oh three, five point fifty one eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty Those are the numbers to

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Speaker 2: join us open lines for you right now. And if

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Speaker 2: you don't have time to give us a call, that's

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Speaker 2: okay too, because we can take your comments on the

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Speaker 2: tweetsheet that you can send to us at one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it as we go along, but as

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Speaker 1: we get it might surprise you that training camp does

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Speaker 1: not do it for me.

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Speaker 2: No is it does it happen before that, after that,

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Speaker 2: after that takes long.

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Speaker 1: Even the preseason game, I don't even know that. Well

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Speaker 1: for me me, I do the preseason games with Andrew Catalan, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of to me. That's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of it. I think when you get in the booth

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Speaker 1: for that very first preseason game, that's when it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm back into it. That's what mine

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Speaker 1: is gotcha doing a broad broadcasting a game. I mean

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Speaker 1: you can probably speak to that as well. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mine actually comes a little bit before that, and I'll

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Speaker 2: explain when we get back. We do have to take

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Speaker 2: a break here, but we are taking your phone calls

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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty Summer's here. You're enjoying that.

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Speaker 2: What is it that kicks you right back into football

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Speaker 2: mold where you're thinking about it? Twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty your phone calls next

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health.

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Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio in.

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Speaker 2: The back here on one of Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you summer finally here. You're enjoying the weather,

492
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Speaker 2: You're doing stuff outside. What is the trigger that kicks

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Speaker 2: you back into football mode? Twenty four seven eighth three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: fifty those are the numbers to join us. Got some

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Speaker 2: open lines for you there, but we go to the

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Speaker 2: phones now and leading us off today is Bill out

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Speaker 2: and Old Forge. What do you got for us? Bill,

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Speaker 2: You're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys. Sadly for me, I used to love training camp.

501
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Speaker 5: Loved it back in the day with the double sessions,

502
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Speaker 5: going back to when Flutie and Johnson were going at

503
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Speaker 5: it in camp, the quarterback battles EJ and Tyrod Fitsy

504
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Speaker 5: in Tron Edwards, loved it all the hitting the goal

505
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Speaker 5: line drills, Tekeio Spikes and McGahee, Marshaun, Lynch, you name it,

506
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Speaker 5: Man Winfield, Clements. I used to love going down there

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Speaker 5: and lost its sluster for me. I think it was

508
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Speaker 5: maybe McCoy's final year here wasn't. They stopped really stopped

509
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Speaker 5: bringing guys to the ground, thought up type thing, no

510
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Speaker 5: more tackling, and then the Guardian helme. It's just basically

511
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Speaker 5: put a lid on it for me, like I just

512
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Speaker 5: don't go down there anymore. Basically, I used to love

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Speaker 5: camp and now it's basically wake me up opening day.

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Speaker 5: Like I think they should give another preseason game too.

515
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Speaker 5: I think those are a waste of time too. Now

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Speaker 5: That's where I'm at with it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I get it. Training camps changed. I

518
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Speaker 2: don't think there's any question about it.

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Speaker 1: You can say what you want. You can say what

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Speaker 1: you want, Bill, I would have signed up for the

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Speaker 1: Guardian Caps back where I was. I know this turned

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Speaker 1: into like old guys week. I got drafted in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty five, right, so it's been forty years. We practiced

524
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Speaker 1: twice a day in full gear in San Angelo, Texas

525
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Speaker 1: for the Houston Oilers. It was the year before I

526
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Speaker 1: got there. The old timers were telling me the year

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Speaker 1: before there were they were there for there was a

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Speaker 1: stretch of fourteen days two weeks where the temperature was

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Speaker 1: above one hundred for fourteen days and it was above

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten for eight of them. So and

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Speaker 1: they were going two days, full pads, full gear, banging

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Speaker 1: on each other. And I did that, not that, not

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Speaker 1: one hundred degrees although it was smoking hot. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It was indoors. That's the ironing of the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the regular season, but it was it was

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Speaker 1: h double hockey sticks and we didn't get a day

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Speaker 1: off for two weeks. I mean no evenings off, No.

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Speaker 2: Training camps would go like six weeks, six weeks.

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Speaker 1: You have two weeks of practice, four preseason games preceded

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Speaker 1: by a week of practices. Dude, it was it was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a night we want to know why guys

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Speaker 1: held out during training?

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Speaker 6: That was it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just zero fun.

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Speaker 2: I do remember during one of Rex Ryan's years here

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Speaker 2: is head coach, we had an extended training camp because

548
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Speaker 2: there were stadium renovations going on back here, and so

549
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Speaker 2: they kept the players and the team out at Saint

550
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Speaker 2: John Fisher longer. And I want to say that was

551
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Speaker 2: about a three and a half to almost four week

552
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Speaker 2: training camp. That that felt long, and it was we

553
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Speaker 2: felt like we were there forever. I can't even imagine

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Speaker 2: a six weeker because that's.

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Speaker 1: Just we Yeah, we would think about this. San Angelo,

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Speaker 1: Texas was a ten hour drive from Houston.

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Speaker 2: What was it west or southwest?

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Speaker 1: Way west? So you go out there, it was it

559
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: was a desert and you go out there. We were

560
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Speaker 1: San Angelo State and you drove out there. It moved

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Speaker 1: in all that. You're staying in a dorm, You're going

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Speaker 1: to practice, out and out. Then you get a preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Oh awesome, we're gonna go to where it was Anaheim

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Speaker 1: to play the Rams back in the day. You get

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Speaker 1: in a flight at San Angelo, fly to the preseason

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Speaker 1: game and home again or home back to San Angelo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you still didn't get to go home. Yeah, then you

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Speaker 1: get a preseason game, it's like you get to like

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Speaker 1: you actually get to go to Houston for a day.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It was horrible. It was horrible. Oh

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Speaker 1: can imagine. And that was my first ever training camp,

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Speaker 1: my very first one.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL sun Oh my gosh, it was horrific.

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Speaker 2: With summer finally here, what is it that kicks you

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Speaker 2: back into football mode? Twenty four seven, eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty the numbers to join us. We go

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Speaker 2: to Gary on a sale. Next, what's up Gary?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, tell you all the good right now? You

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Speaker 7: never Seinfield the show? Yeah, y'all ever see it back

581
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Speaker 7: in the day? Yep episode George, you're talking about relationship

582
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Speaker 7: George and then no relationship George. How like relationship George?

583
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Speaker 7: That regular George? That Regor George would kill relationship George.

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Speaker 7: That's me when training camp starts, it's it's football season, Geared.

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Speaker 7: Right now, I do with my family, I'll go out

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Speaker 7: with my wife, you know, on.

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Speaker 8: The weekends, stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: But when football season comes, he would kill.

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Speaker 3: Off season, Geared.

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Speaker 7: When training camp kicked on, that's that's football season, Gart,

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Speaker 7: nothing else matters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you take you take on a whole different persona.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too. It's fun because like right now

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Speaker 1: we're talking, we're talking about this. You know, the building's vacant,

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Speaker 1: and we're all on vacation. We're all kind of doing

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Speaker 1: other stuff. You're playing, we're playing, we're talking about our

598
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Speaker 1: golf game. Yeah, we're kind of relaxing. You know, you

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Speaker 1: kind of got that thing, and then you know, when

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Speaker 1: training camp kicks, I mean Not only are Brownie and

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Speaker 1: I doing the show from training camp like to thirty

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Speaker 1: yards from the field, so is every other media outlet.

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Speaker 1: I mean we got you all to wall. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: having Mike Girardi on. He'll be through here, Kyle Brown

605
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Speaker 1: will come there, Good morning footballn Washburn we talked to yesterday. Hey, Kay,

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Speaker 1: Adams will come through. The guys from Moving the Chains on,

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Speaker 1: Sirius XM, they'll come through training camp, all these, all

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Speaker 1: the analysts come through. Everybody shows up, So it's it's

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Speaker 1: easy to use that as your kickoff. I still don't.

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Speaker 1: I still don't. What's yours? What do you.

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Speaker 9: For me?

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Speaker 2: It comes before the preseason games. It's actually the return

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Speaker 2: of the Blue and Red scrimmage. Oh And the reason

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Speaker 2: I say that is because our radio broadcast crew we

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Speaker 2: use that as our tune up.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We treat the practice like a game broadcast, so you know,

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Speaker 2: we feel that much more ready for the first preseason game,

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Speaker 2: which is usually the following week. So that tune up

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Speaker 2: is kind of like getting back into the whole prep

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Speaker 2: for game mode kind of thing. Yeah, so it's the

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Speaker 2: return of the Blue and Red practice for me. That's

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Speaker 2: like when it's Okay, we're here, like it's time to

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Speaker 2: get rolling, Like no more days off here, and.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, Browning. Once the Blue and Red scrimmage hits,

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Speaker 1: it's a game a week from.

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Speaker 2: That on out there on right, Yeah, with the exception

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Speaker 2: of the bye week. So yeah, yeah, and it's an

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Speaker 2: early bye this week. I remember last year like the

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Speaker 2: by is like week thirteen, twelve or thirteen. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I was just like, I tell you exactly what it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the players were happy to have it late

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Speaker 2: in the season because you know, you kind of need

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Speaker 2: that break then, right, week seven is going to feel

635
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Speaker 2: really early this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we bye was week twelve last week last year,

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Speaker 1: neb they had the Chiefs than the bye, then the

638
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Speaker 1: Ram the Chiefs and the bye than the Niners in town.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the snow game and all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the two of the most fun games

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Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 1: Remember we had that gaunt first loss for the Chiefs, Chiefs, Niners,

644
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Speaker 1: Rams Lions. Remember that that was a gaunt with Bills

645
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Speaker 1: went three and one, and that it looked good doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones and to Bobby

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Speaker 2: out in Buffalo. What's up Bobby.

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Speaker 9: Hey, how you doing, guys.

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 9: Good Listen. I'm gonna let you guys know something. I'm

651
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Speaker 9: always I'm always in football mode, because listen, I just

652
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Speaker 9: want to let you guys know this. I would say

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Speaker 9: just about maybe like a couple of days ago, I

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Speaker 9: was watching NFL Network. In the NFL Network, they had

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Speaker 9: on I think it was it was called Rivalries. I

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Speaker 9: think it's called Rivalries Day or Rivals or Rivals Week.

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Speaker 9: But but but anyway, they the NFL Network showing every

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Speaker 9: last game that the Bills in Kansas City has played.

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Speaker 9: They even they even rebroadcasted the thirteenth second game. I said,

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Speaker 9: oh my god, I said that this is not I

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Speaker 9: said that this is not getting anybody ready for football.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what is okay, but and and and

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Speaker 9: you know what, And as I was looking as as

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Speaker 9: some of those games, and I looked at the thirteenth

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Speaker 9: second game and it and it was a reminder to me.

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Speaker 9: It did remind me that you know, that year that

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Speaker 9: year when the Bills played Case, the Bills were like

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Speaker 9: up the power that year. Okay that they were they

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Speaker 9: really was up the power that year. And also the

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Speaker 9: game they played from from last year when Casey came

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Speaker 9: in undefeated and the Bills beat them. Now, now that

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Speaker 9: was the game that I that I really loved. But anyway,

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Speaker 9: any of it, I'm always in football mode because I'm

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Speaker 9: a football fanatic, always have been and always will be

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Speaker 9: until until the day I leave here.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, do you have any other Do you follow any

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Speaker 1: other sport at all?

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Speaker 9: Well, you can be honest my number one, Basketball is

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Speaker 9: my number two mm hm, and hockey is my number three.

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Speaker 9: Those that those are my top three sports.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, full up, Bobby, appreciate the phone call,

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Speaker 2: Thank you. He's never at a football mode, he said,

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Speaker 2: So I understand he's all of a sudden he's starting

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Speaker 2: watching Bill's Chiefs games in succession and he's like, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm ready for the season.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know how, you know deep I aim into

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Speaker 1: the football. I mean, I'm that's all I do.

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Speaker 2: And you rewatch games.

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Speaker 1: I do rewatch games, but I do like I've been

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Speaker 1: watching the NHL playoffs and I've been watching the NBA playoffs,

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Speaker 1: both a couple of really good series, and I have

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Speaker 1: a hard time getting as much into them. Is because

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Speaker 1: I don't know not as that I don't know as

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Speaker 1: much about the sport or anything like that. I think

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Speaker 1: most of it is the fact that I think most

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Speaker 1: of it is just the fact I don't know the

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Speaker 1: teams as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're not as connected, yeah, yeah, like I don't

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Speaker 2: have any skin.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I know the Kansas City Chiefs better

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Speaker 1: than I know the Pacers and the and the OKC

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Speaker 1: Thunder And there's only like four guys you got to

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Speaker 1: know on each team. They get a real feel for it,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, rosters, right, So maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just don't feel as connected to it. But I

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Speaker 1: have enjoyed watching both those series.

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Speaker 2: They've been good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really good. So yeah, I'm yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: most people have an alternate sport. Maybe there there's some

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Speaker 1: people that love them all. I mean they can't they

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Speaker 1: can't get enough of any of it. But if I obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think hockey's probably my second to football because of

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Speaker 1: the proximity I have to the SABS.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, you're invested right quite literally? Yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 2: With summer finally here, what is your thing that kicks

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Speaker 2: you right back into football mode?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 2: One person I was talking to, one of my neighbors

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Speaker 2: about this, and they're an ardent football fan, but they

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Speaker 2: are so heavily invested in the fantasy football. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: that he was telling me. He goes, once the date

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Speaker 2: for my draft shows up, he goes, that's what I'm on.

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Speaker 2: He goes, I'm all ready because now I'm researching you know,

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Speaker 2: who to draft, and when you know my approach with

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Speaker 2: what my pick is, he goes, that gets me into

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Speaker 2: football mode. Like bang, so, oh my draft is, you know,

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Speaker 2: August thirtieth. As soon as I know the date, I'm

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Speaker 2: already thinking about football again, which I get. I mean,

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Speaker 2: fantasy football is to become a thing, it is itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's all it made interesting and more possible

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Speaker 1: by the fact that the Internet, so you can just

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Speaker 1: research this stuff the fingers. Yes, you know, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: have to go to the think about back in.

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Speaker 2: The seventeen eight door and all the magazine off the wreck.

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Speaker 1: And can you imagine remember Sporting News, I mean the

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Speaker 1: Sporting News.

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Speaker 2: Golly, I had a subscription.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so now it's like, what's a subscription. What's the subscription?

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Speaker 1: A subscription is a subscription. It's not it's not your phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Remember though, I told you this. My father in law

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Speaker 1: got me a subscription to s I. So he's the

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Speaker 1: one that he gives his gift to me, right, So

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Speaker 1: every week I'd get the magazine and uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stack him up, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a whole stack of them. And what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do with.

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Speaker 2: All these magazine They have little giveaways like the helmet

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Speaker 2: phone on your yeah, oh yeah, the helmet, yeah, or

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Speaker 2: a piece of luggage or a sweater or something, you know, yeah, sweatshirt.

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Speaker 1: You think some of those, some of these SI covers

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Speaker 1: are going to be worth something, right, And it's like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, they probably are now because it really doesn't

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Speaker 2: exist in hard copy form anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit like album cover art now, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Which really doesn't exist anymore either. We have to take

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Speaker 2: a break here when we come back more of your

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Speaker 2: phone calls, because we want to know what kicks you

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Speaker 2: right back into football mode here during the summertime, when

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Speaker 2: you're doing plenty of other stuff with the family, taking vacations,

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Speaker 2: what kicks you back into football mode? Eight O three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one, eight five fifty The numbers to

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Speaker 2: call here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here, I want

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Speaker 2: to build live. Chris Brownstein task you with you and

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Speaker 2: we're asking you what is the trigger that transitioned you

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Speaker 2: from summertime fun back into football mode. Eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty Those are the numbers to hop on with us.

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Speaker 2: And we do have open lines for you there. But

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Speaker 2: we go back to the phones and to mirran Enrichmond,

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Speaker 2: what do you offer us?

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Speaker 10: Miran, Hi, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. I had

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Speaker 10: a quick question about the special teams of the Tavis Chanalt.

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Speaker 10: I don't see how he can really, I don't see

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Speaker 10: a pathway for him making the roster. If we're keeping

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Speaker 10: five wide receivers, which wide receiver we're going to.

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Speaker 8: Sit down on game day to make a rush spot

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Speaker 8: for him to return punts? And I guess the same

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Speaker 8: thing goes for Brendan Condriington. I believe which DV are

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Speaker 8: we sitting down and not playing on game day to

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Speaker 8: have a to have him as our part returner?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you could be looking at an either

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Speaker 2: or situation there, because do Chenault and Codrington both make

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Speaker 2: the roster knowing they're both primary return man. Codrington has

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Speaker 2: proven he can do kick and punt return. Chanault has

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Speaker 2: done punt return, but sparingly in his career. So if

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Speaker 2: he has any kind of struggles in the punt return

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Speaker 2: game advantage Codrington. As I see it now, Is there

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Speaker 2: a way for both of them to be on the roster? Sure,

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Speaker 2: if you keep six receivers, Channault's for six and he's

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Speaker 2: up on game day because he's playing on special teams.

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Speaker 2: Same for Codrington. In all likelihood, you know you're only

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Speaker 2: keeping five corners. I know they kept six corners with

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Speaker 2: their initial fifty three man roster last year. They kept

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Speaker 2: eleven dbs last year. Do they keep eleven this year?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to see, but it's a worthwhile question. And

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Speaker 2: Chanolt and Codrington could be in direct competition with each

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Speaker 2: other in terms of who stays on the roster and

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Speaker 2: who does not.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the answer to me. If you want

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Speaker 1: to keep an extra dB, you keep Codrington. If you

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Speaker 1: want to keep an extra wide out, you keep Chanalt,

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Speaker 1: And either one that you keep will be your return guy.

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Speaker 1: Chanlt's got a very long pedigree as a good returner.

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Speaker 1: And he also has a history with Chris Tabor h

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Speaker 1: the new Special Teams.

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Speaker 2: Playing for him for two seas.

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Speaker 1: So that's Carolina. Uh, don't be little. That one thing

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Speaker 1: that goes a long way. And coaching ranks his trust

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Speaker 1: and if a player earns a coaches trust, that coach

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Speaker 1: will fight for him to be on the roster. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's out of the question that both those

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Speaker 1: guys will be on the roster. Codrington got on the

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Speaker 1: field for a couple of times, and I'll be at

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Speaker 1: garbage time. He's athlete enough to play. He's just maybe

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Speaker 1: not big enough to be an every down player. But

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Speaker 1: Codrington could finish a game at corner athletically easily. And

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Speaker 1: Channault is put together. He's a big, strong, thick wide out.

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Speaker 1: There's a spot for him.

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Speaker 9: He is.

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Speaker 1: You know, if if you're looking for a guy that

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Speaker 1: you know, Leviscus Chaneaul is more of a Curtis Samuel

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Speaker 1: type guy with thicker frame. I mean, he's more of

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Speaker 1: a gadget handed.

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Speaker 2: He reminds me of a little bit like if I'm

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady and I want to draw some plays up

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Speaker 2: for him, like.

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Speaker 1: A package of Plabo Samuel or Cornarel Patterson Courdrel Patterson.

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Speaker 2: Ye, he reminds me of somebody like that.

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Speaker 1: Ayuk is another guy like that out there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is a guy who is an athlete and you're

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Speaker 1: trying to get the ball in his hands anyway you

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Speaker 1: can't as Chanault, I mean, he looks the part. You

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Speaker 1: could line him up in the backfield with Cook and

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't look out of place. So his versatility is

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Speaker 1: what gives him an avenue to make the club, which

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Speaker 1: is what you know the caller was looking for. I

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Speaker 1: in fact, sitting here like this, I would think both

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Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be on the squad, Codrington and Channel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there could be some mitigating circumstances that

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Speaker 2: arise based on how things develop in training camp in

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Speaker 2: the preseason. But yeah, I wouldn't be stunned if both

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Speaker 2: were on the roster. But I also wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 2: if it's only one of them.

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Speaker 1: You could see a pathway now because the economics, if

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Speaker 1: you set the economics aside, you could see a pathway

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Speaker 1: toward it, being like Curtis Samuel, Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore

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Speaker 1: and Leviscus Channel. It could be one of those guys

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Speaker 1: does isn't in the mix, and there's two or three

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Speaker 1: of them that have very very similar skill sets. Chanault

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Speaker 1: is the guy who kind of stands apart from him.

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Speaker 1: That may give him the extra impetus to make it

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Speaker 1: that some of those guys may be on the practice

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Speaker 1: squad if they so desire, or if they say okay,

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Speaker 1: or they just might ask for their release. But that's

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Speaker 1: more of what I see. I think Chanlt is a

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Speaker 1: more of a sure thing than the mix of white

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Speaker 1: outs they got as pure whiteouts. Okay, it's easy for

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Speaker 1: me to see. I'm not saying that's the way it's

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Speaker 1: going to be because I like the white out room,

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Speaker 1: but Chanalt's a unique skill set that they don't have

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Speaker 1: anyplace else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I tend to think they're gonna find

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Speaker 2: a way to keep six receivers on the fifty three

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Speaker 2: man roster when we get down to it in late August.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: our look down the bill's schedule of opponents continues. When

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Speaker 2: we cover the Patriots with Boston Sports Journal NFL writer

871
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Speaker 2: Mike Gardi, also co host of the All thirty two podcasts.

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Speaker 2: He joins us for our number two here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Coalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, our number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and please to welcome in at

877
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Speaker 2: this point in time to help us with a look

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Speaker 2: at the New England Patriots, the second opponent on or No,

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Speaker 2: they're not the second opponent on Buffalo schedule. That's the Jets.

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Speaker 2: They're in the first month of the season. We're making

881
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: our way opponent by opponent on the Bill schedule this year, granted,

882
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Speaker 2: not in order, but in any event. Boston Sports General

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Speaker 2: NFL writer Mike Giardi is going to join us now

884
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Speaker 2: to help lay out what the off season was like

885
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Speaker 2: for the Patriots. All right, Mike, thanks for giving us

886
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Speaker 2: some time here because it's usually downtime and maybe actually

887
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Speaker 2: have some time off, So thanks for giving us some

888
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: of that because training camp is going to be here

889
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: in a blink, as you well know. But now that

890
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Speaker 2: all of the spring stuff has essentially been kind of

891
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Speaker 2: put to bed here for the Patriots, I'm just kind

892
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Speaker 2: of curious for your thoughts on where you believe the

893
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: Patriots roster is most improved from that of a year ago,

894
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: because I still thought even under Gerrodmeo, the defense had

895
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Speaker 2: some talent on it. Granted they were without Barmore for

896
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: a while with the blood clot issue, But where is

897
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Speaker 2: this team on the field, Because we'll talk about Rabel

898
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Speaker 2: in a second, but on the field, where do you

899
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Speaker 2: feel this roster is most improved.

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Speaker 11: I definitely think it's on the defensive side of the ball,

901
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 11: particularly looking at that defensive line. And it's really it's

902
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 11: not only about bar Moore being back for the entirety

903
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Speaker 11: of the spring and continuing to tell us that he

904
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Speaker 11: is convinced that the blood clots are a thing of

905
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Speaker 11: the past. He won't tell us why, if that's the

906
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Speaker 11: doctor's opinion, what have you. But he looks to be

907
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 11: in better shape as well, So he was out there

908
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 11: the entirety of the spring. And then to have Milton

909
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 11: Williams alongside him. We know what Milton did in a

910
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 11: part time role for Philadelphia really helped drive that defense,

911
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 11: especially in the second half of last season. The two

912
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Speaker 11: of those sort of pieces in the middle can create

913
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Speaker 11: a lot of problems I think for opposing offenses. Now

914
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Speaker 11: Keon White's not getting doubled as much, and Keen got

915
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 11: off an awesome start last year before it became apparent

916
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Speaker 11: to every opposing offensive coordinator that he's the.

917
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Speaker 3: One guy that you have to block on that side

918
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: of the ball.

919
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 11: So I think for real opportunity to dominate some games

920
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 11: up front, and obviously with Christian Gonzalez and now Carlton

921
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Speaker 11: Davis in the secondary, some good corners to back it up.

922
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Speaker 11: So it feels like last year they couldn't turn anyone over.

923
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Speaker 11: Feels like they're going to have an opportunity to do

924
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 11: that if they stay healthy with the big pieces I

925
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Speaker 11: just mentioned.

926
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Speaker 1: Is there going to be any kind of deep philosophical

927
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: change with the change at the top with Vrabel Are

928
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: they going to do Are they gonna look different schematically

929
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: or he's got any rumblings about that?

930
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

931
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Speaker 11: You can pretty much kiss the two gapping system that

932
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Speaker 11: Belichick loved goodbye. This is gonna be more upfield, more penetration,

933
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Speaker 11: more aggression. They've obviously sort of turned over their linebacker corps.

934
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Speaker 11: Robert splains in the middle of it the former Vegas

935
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Speaker 11: linebacker who had one hundred and fifty tackles in each

936
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Speaker 11: of the last two years, two hundred and twenty five pounds,

937
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 11: you know, as opposed to Juwan Bentley who was more

938
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Speaker 11: like two fifty. Even Jelani Tavai, who is one of

939
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Speaker 11: the holdovers, he dropped some weight. So it's clear like

940
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Speaker 11: the message for that crew is we're gonna be faster,

941
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Speaker 11: We're gonna be able to move more better side to

942
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Speaker 11: side than we have in years past. And again we

943
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Speaker 11: cannot be a problem if you're getting run, if they're

944
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Speaker 11: able to push around the big guys in the middle. Probably,

945
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Speaker 11: But to this point, this is something that ver Able

946
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Speaker 11: wants to do, and it's something that he obviously did

947
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Speaker 11: to pretty good success in Tennessee, all.

948
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Speaker 2: Right, and we know the job that had to be

949
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: done with respect to the offensive line, it was enormous.

950
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: We know Campbell's obviously their first round draft choice, and

951
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: you know they get Bradbury, who was kind of a

952
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 2: cast off in Minnesota. But you could do a lot

953
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: worse than Gary Bradbury. Morgan Moses comes from the Jets.

954
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: So what do we feel is this is this a

955
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: collection of guys that are going to get better as

956
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: they get more experience, with some stopgap guys mixed in.

957
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: How do we characterize this group?

958
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, Chris, it's a great question, and to me, it's

959
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 11: still the biggest concern on the football team.

960
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 3: And I can just go from position to position, you know.

961
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 11: Obviously, Will Campbell was the number four pick and was

962
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 11: an awesome college player. We've talked quite a bit about

963
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 11: the less than average arm length, wingspan, even hand size,

964
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 11: and then if you look in history, there's no one

965
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 11: in the last twenty five years that became an All

966
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 11: Pro type player or even a Pro Bowl type player

967
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 11: at that position with the measurements that he has. So

968
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 11: I still have some questions about whether or not that's

969
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 11: gonna fly at left tackle, and maybe he might end

970
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 11: up being a guard.

971
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: We'll see.

972
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 11: Obviously, he was the left tackle from the moment he's

973
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 11: walked in the door. As I remind people here, he

974
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 11: wasn't the first, second, third, or even fourth choice. They

975
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 11: tried to sign Ronnie Stanley, he stayed in Baltimore. They

976
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 11: tried to sign Jalen Moore. He of course went from

977
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 11: San Francisco to Kansas City. They talked to Dan Moore.

978
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 11: He of course signed a big deal with Tennessee and

979
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 11: they even offered Cam Robinson a relatively sizeable one year

980
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 11: contract and he chose Houston. So they were doing everything

981
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 11: they could to get a veteran left tackle. When they

982
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 11: fell short, they settled on Campbell again. Seems like an

983
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 11: awesome dude. He's certainly a great athlete. We'll see if

984
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 11: he can hold up at left tackle. There is no

985
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 11: left guard right now. Wes Schweitzer was sort of the

986
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 11: odds on favorite, just based on what we saw early

987
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 11: in OTAs. He is now on the reserve retired list,

988
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 11: and it's Cole strange, It's city, so no one has

989
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 11: really grabbed the job.

990
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: You mentioned.

991
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 11: Brad Berry historically had one of the worst pass blocking

992
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 11: seasons the center has had recent memory. Can that be

993
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 11: fixed or is that just part of who he is,

994
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 11: you know, sort of an undersized guy in the middle.

995
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 11: Mike and Wino came back. He's heavy again. You know,

996
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 11: they can't love that he's their highest paid guy. They

997
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 11: need to get him right and need to have him

998
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 11: play at the level that he's being paid to. And

999
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 11: Morgan Moses is the constant priority sort of put his

1000
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 11: imprint on this offensive line guys. He talks to them

1001
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 11: after every practice, scathers all the young guys together, help

1002
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 11: bring over defensive players to talk about pass rushing moves

1003
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 11: and if I do this, then you do that. So

1004
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 11: like his influence has been awesome. He is thirty four,

1005
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 11: his body has shown some signs the last couple of

1006
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 11: years of breaking down. So I think they're just there's

1007
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 11: a lot of questions that at this point, especially not

1008
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 11: in pads, we don't have answers to.

1009
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: And then you had the waves made by Steph Diggs

1010
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: and his escapades off the field. Did you note and

1011
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: give us kind of a synopsis they had to have?

1012
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: All right, this is you know, all right, we had

1013
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: to put out fire Drabel. It's the first time this

1014
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: new regime has had to deal with this, and you

1015
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: know they had players that were some times a problem

1016
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: in the past when d'Or Belichick, but this, you know,

1017
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: this is the first fire Rabel had to put out.

1018
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: How they handle it, how's it going, and what's the aftermath.

1019
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 11: I'd say Mike was quite irritated by the whole thing.

1020
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 11: Just talking to people. The sense I got was, I.

1021
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: Know, it's voluntary Steve, you know, voluntary.

1022
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 11: I think they got the feeling that he was gonna

1023
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 11: be here for much more of the offseason than he was,

1024
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 11: especially as he rehad the knee. Then to have that

1025
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 11: thing with the boat pop up, like again, you can't

1026
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 11: what can you prove? We don't know what was in

1027
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 11: the bag. He wouldn't answer what was in the bag,

1028
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 11: not that I expected him to, but I just think

1029
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 11: it was an irritation. I think that there were conversations

1030
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 11: after that, which I think is why he showed up

1031
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 11: for the remaining OTAs, and then of course was that

1032
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 11: mandatory mini camp. Probably not to be fined, but I

1033
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 11: don't think he has the cachet with Rabel and this

1034
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 11: coaching staff yet to think that it's a thing of

1035
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 11: the past, Like I think Mike will forgive him, but

1036
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 11: won't forget it. And if there are more bumps in

1037
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 11: the road, I don't know. Maybe that was not only

1038
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 11: strike one, but strike two, and if something else happens,

1039
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 11: that's it. Of course Diggs knows that they need him,

1040
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 11: and I'll give him credit. Seven months removed from the ACL,

1041
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 11: I still think there's a little bit of a limp,

1042
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 11: and I still think his quickness coming in and out

1043
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 11: of breaks is not what it would be pre injury,

1044
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 11: but that he's pretty far along. You know, Kendrick Bourne.

1045
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 11: We didn't even see Kendrick Bourne, who basically had the

1046
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 11: injury at the same time of year prior. We didn't

1047
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 11: even see him do anything until late in training camp,

1048
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 11: you know. And I would expect that if Diggs isn't

1049
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 11: ready for day one of training camp, it's maybe because

1050
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 11: they're holding him back, not that anything or he's at

1051
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 11: a setback, but like it feels like he's on pace

1052
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 11: to do that.

1053
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: So look, I.

1054
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 11: Lived at covering digs in Buffalo. You guys certainly lived

1055
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 11: it daily with him. He's an interesting guy. He likes

1056
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 11: he's very charming, he's very competitive, but he's also self

1057
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 11: centered and out that's just I think into the position

1058
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 11: these days.

1059
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and high maintenance too. The receiving corps for them

1060
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: is interesting because I know Kyle Williams comes in with

1061
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: a lot of hype. The third round pick eftin Chisholm

1062
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: has been a pleasant surprise and people are making comparisons,

1063
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, to Wes Welker and Julian Edelman with his

1064
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: route running abilities, but it's largely a collection of veteran

1065
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: journeyman Mac Collins, Kendrick Borden because of the injury history.

1066
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: You know, Diggs is the exception. He's a proven player,

1067
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: but he's coming off a major injury. And I don't

1068
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: have to tell you, but each of the last three

1069
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: years you get to the second half of the season

1070
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 2: and Dig's production drops off a cliff and now, coming

1071
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: off a major injury and three years older, that's going

1072
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: to continue at best. And then you have unproven guys

1073
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 2: like Baker and Polk who may not even make the roster.

1074
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: How do you kind of square this group? Number one

1075
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: and then number two? Are we only looking at them

1076
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: keeping five on the active roster? Are we expecting more

1077
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: twelve personnel? You know with Hooper and Henry? How does

1078
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: this all kind of come into shape?

1079
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm definitely expecting more twelve personnel. I think that's

1080
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 11: something that Josh likes to lean into. I think those

1081
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 11: two guys and Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper were two

1082
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 11: of their more consistent, if not the most consistent players

1083
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 11: they had on since last year. So I think we'll

1084
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 11: see a fair amount of that. I would guess five

1085
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 11: I mean, I look at the roster now, it's much

1086
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 11: more improved. You know, last year they kept seven and

1087
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 11: that it was like it wasn't because those were seven

1088
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 11: good players. It was because of the fifty three. They

1089
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 11: were seven of the best fifty three, which didn't say

1090
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 11: much about the fifty three.

1091
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I could definitely, I could definitely see five.

1092
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 11: I think the Chisholm thing will be interesting because I

1093
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 11: know there are coaches in there that like him. He

1094
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 11: got real quiet the last couple of days of mandatory

1095
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 11: mini camp when Drick Bourne was back and he was

1096
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 11: working some with the third team quarterback, and then when

1097
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 11: he was with Josh Dobbs the backup, or even got

1098
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 11: a couple reps with Drake May. He wasn't as involved

1099
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 11: that he as he had been prior in the OTAs

1100
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 11: when guys weren't around. So we'll see what it looks

1101
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 11: like in the summer. I say it all the time,

1102
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 11: like one of the things about and you guys know this,

1103
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 11: like the coaches tell the defensive backs do not play

1104
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 11: through the man in un padded practices, and they might

1105
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 11: tell him that points during the actual padded practices in

1106
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 11: training camp. So there were some plays that were made

1107
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 11: where I look at it and say, I don't know

1108
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 11: that guy. He might have got litten up by you know,

1109
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 11: Jabrol Peppers right there. What he been able to hold

1110
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 11: onto the ball, what he been able to get up

1111
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 11: after it. So we'll have to see if that sort

1112
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 11: of nice story in the spring carries on into the summertime.

1113
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 11: I don't think Baker makes the team. I think he's

1114
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 11: gonna have to have an awesome summer if that's gonna happen.

1115
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 11: I don't think he caught a ball in the five

1116
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 11: practices that we were allowed to see during the course.

1117
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: Of the spring. Pulk's real happened from his shoulder injury.

1118
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 11: He's with Diggs a lot when Diggs was there, which

1119
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 11: I don't know, good thing, bad thing, like pick his brain.

1120
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 11: That could be good, but you know, like impressionable young kid,

1121
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 11: I don't know about that.

1122
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's not I don't raise.

1123
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 11: It to the level of my concerns about the offensive line,

1124
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 11: but I don't think it's a good group. I think

1125
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 11: it's probably the twenty fourth, twenty fifth receiving corps in

1126
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 11: the league right now, and then yeah, who knows if

1127
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 11: Kyle Williams takes a jump and I didn't. He was

1128
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 11: fine the spring, nothing spectacular to me. But if you

1129
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 11: were to take a leap, or maybe Pole comes back

1130
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 11: and you get the guy that you thought you were

1131
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 11: drafting a year ago, then maybe.

1132
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: The group improves a little bit. But it's it's it's

1133
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: not a good group.

1134
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: What about the running back room? I a Remond Race Chievenson.

1135
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: What about other than him? And how much work is

1136
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: he gonna get if he's the guy? Is he going

1137
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: to carry it five hundred times? I'm I'm obviously exaggerating.

1138
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you what.

1139
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, Steve Trevion Henderson, their second round pick out of

1140
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 11: Ohio State. I figured that what his path would be

1141
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 11: would be the third down back, and he already comes

1142
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 11: in with a real good pass protection skill set, you know,

1143
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 11: sort of explosive, good hands. The more I saw him

1144
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 11: the spring, the more that they used him in the spring,

1145
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 11: the more I think he's gonna make a push for

1146
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 11: the number one job. Not saying that he's gonna that

1147
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 11: they're gonna go bell Cow. I don't think that that's

1148
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 11: how pretty much anybody operates these days. But all of

1149
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 11: a sudden I went from thinking you might get twenty

1150
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 11: percent of the snaps, you know, twenty five percent of

1151
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 11: the snaps into.

1152
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: Could it be a forty forty split with.

1153
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 11: Him and Stevenson And then you know Antonio Gibson is

1154
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 11: the third back getting a little bit of time.

1155
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 3: He certainly made an impressive showing.

1156
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 11: I think in the spring he's got he's got that

1157
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 11: giddy up speed like man one cut and just poo

1158
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 11: go and they don't you know, that's not Stevenson's game.

1159
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 11: That's not Gibson's game. And you know, Ramandre was not

1160
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 11: around a ton this spring. His father passed away surprisingly

1161
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 11: in March, so there was obviously some family stuff he

1162
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 11: was dealing with. But it's just it'll be interesting to watch.

1163
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 11: I think we know and Andre told us this when

1164
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 11: we did get to talk to him the spring. Josh

1165
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 11: Josh McDaniels likes his running backs. We know that, so

1166
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 11: we know there's gonna be opportunities for us if you

1167
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 11: take advantage of it, He'll keep giving you more. I

1168
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 11: thought trevi On Henderson got his opportunities the spring and

1169
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 11: took advantage of him.

1170
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was probably my favorite pick that they that

1171
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: the Patriots made and I think he's. Yeah, I mean,

1172
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: you don't have a great offensive line to begin with,

1173
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: and this is a guy that can make plays on

1174
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: his own if you get him the ball quickly enough

1175
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: in space. So yeah, I kind of agree with you.

1176
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna probably get more snaps than anybody

1177
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: by the time the season is through. Rookie kicker, rookie

1178
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 2: long snapper. You know, this is that's an undertaking. How

1179
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: as that materialized through the course of the spring, And

1180
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: what level of patience do you anticipate Mike Vrabel having

1181
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: with that operation, knowing in AOD in a good situation,

1182
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: they're in a lot of close games.

1183
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, So it went flawlessly in the in the spring,

1184
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 11: and you know, they try to do whatever they can

1185
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 11: do increase pressure in these sort of moments, whether it's

1186
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 11: loud music or waving towels at throwing towels at the

1187
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 11: kickers or at the long snapper before snaps, and they'll

1188
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 11: wrap it up even more in the spring, I mean

1189
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 11: in the summertime. I mean, I think it would take

1190
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 11: an injury or something absolutely disastrous for either one of

1191
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 11: those guys not to break with the football team. But

1192
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 11: your point is fair in that you can only carry

1193
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 11: that so long. They should be more competitive this year,

1194
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 11: for sure. They should in more close games. And you know,

1195
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 11: Mike's had a track record of sort of working through kickers.

1196
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 11: If it's not working in Tennessee, you know, move to

1197
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 11: the next guy. Moved to the next guy. So yeah,

1198
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 11: I think I think they both break. But if it

1199
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 11: starts to go wrong, I don't think they'll have any

1200
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 11: hesitation to bring in competition because, let's face it, you

1201
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 11: know one or two games that you could swing and

1202
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 11: be go from eight to nine to nine and eight.

1203
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 11: Maybe that's the thing to get you into a into

1204
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 11: a playoffs bough or how's you at least playing important

1205
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 11: games in December, which I think is is the goal.

1206
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Well, the only guy we haven't talked about is head

1207
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: coach Mike Frable. He's he was really the master stroke

1208
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: of Bob Kraft this offseason. He's a respected head coach.

1209
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: He seems he seems from the outside one of the

1210
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: best game managers, clock managers, the end of games, the

1211
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: snap decisions at the end of the game that gives

1212
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: them a chance to win. I was watching some highlights

1213
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: from years ago. He's a little bit like Bill Parcells

1214
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: was they could look terrible, but you get back to

1215
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: the middle of the fourth quarter, they're right there. You

1216
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: can't run off and leave those teams. So he is

1217
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna give them something. Have you seen signs of that

1218
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: in the early run up to this spring.

1219
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: I think he's been the Steve. I think he's been

1220
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: the MVP of this offseason.

1221
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 11: You can talk about adding Milton Williams and Calton Davis

1222
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 11: and having Barn war back, and we just mentioned some

1223
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 11: of the rookies, etc. Drake may growth all those different things,

1224
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 11: but to me, he came in and gave him a

1225
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 11: real purpose. I think we know what this football team

1226
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 11: wants to be. I think he knows how to push

1227
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 11: it in that direction. I think they hit all the

1228
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 11: check marks that you want to hit during the course

1229
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 11: of the spring. I like watching coaches as the son

1230
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 11: of a coach for forty years, Like it's something that

1231
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 11: I've always sort of just drifted to and like watching.

1232
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: Them on the field operate. And he's a ball of energy.

1233
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 11: He's over here with special teams guys. Then all of

1234
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 11: a sudden you look away. Twenty seconds later he's on

1235
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 11: the far end of the other side of the field

1236
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 11: talking to the second team corner.

1237
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: Then it's over here talking to a coach.

1238
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 11: Then it's back with the offensive line, showing technique, like

1239
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 11: he just hands on, very involved. He's talking trash to

1240
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 11: some of the players, like it's just they all seem

1241
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 11: to enjoy plan for him.

1242
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: They have a plan now.

1243
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 11: They didn't have a plan last year, and I think

1244
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 11: you could probably argue the last couple of years of Bill,

1245
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 11: I don't even know what the hell the plan was then.

1246
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: So he's got the point in the right direction.

1247
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 11: I think there's definitely an air of confidence that is

1248
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 11: being injected into this team.

1249
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: I think Mike the big reason why.

1250
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: Last one for me, Mike, because we got this far

1251
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: without mentioning. Drake May now paired up with Josh McDaniels,

1252
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: who has handled young quarterbacks before with some success and

1253
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit less I'm thinking of, you know,

1254
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: maybe the mac Jones years. But anyway, how how have

1255
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 2: they meshed because I think a lot of us watching

1256
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: from the outside were very encouraged by what Drake May

1257
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: brought to the table last year with pretty much zero

1258
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 2: help on that side of the ball last year, even

1259
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: though I thought Alex van Pelt who's a good friend

1260
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: of ours, did a lot of good work with him

1261
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: last season as a rookie. What is the next chapter

1262
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: for him in terms of working with McDaniels.

1263
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 11: So he had kind of a it depends on who

1264
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 11: you read, but my take on watching him for those

1265
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 11: five practices that we were allowed to see and then

1266
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 11: talking to some of the coaches, you know, and some

1267
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 11: of the practices that we didn't, it was a pretty good.

1268
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: Level of growth here in the course of the spring.

1269
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 11: And he had the you know, the first day we

1270
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 11: saw me through four interceptions and it looked gross and

1271
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 11: you're like, man, as I sit there and watching him, going,

1272
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 11: this is kind of what I expect, though, you know,

1273
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 11: another new offense. He's thinking more, he's not playing as fast,

1274
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 11: and you're kind of seeing, hey, you're late. If you're

1275
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 11: gonna be late in this league, you're you're gonna make mistakes.

1276
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 3: And that's what it was.

1277
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 11: And we saw generally a good improvement from that first

1278
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 11: time we saw him to what we saw at the end.

1279
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 11: I still think there's there's ways to go. Like I

1280
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 11: think someone asked me to put a grade on it.

1281
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 11: I said, like, it was like a B minus and

1282
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 11: That's about what I expected. He's still you know, receivers

1283
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 11: are in and out. You know, Diggs is obviously not

1284
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 11: even a part of the of the eleven on elevens

1285
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 11: yet is he still not cleared for everything? So you

1286
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 11: know they're still working through some stuff. I would say this,

1287
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 11: Josh has done a good job over the course of

1288
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 11: his time with sort of altering Everybody looks at it

1289
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 11: as the Tom Brady offense, right, but he had Cam Newton.

1290
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 11: That team was terrible. The mere Bird was their number

1291
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 11: one receiver. Ryan Izzo was their number one tight end.

1292
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 11: Like those aren't good football players by me. Stretch the imagine.

1293
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Speaker 11: They won seven games that year and the offense was

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Speaker 11: all right. You know, Cam couldn't throw, and they still

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Speaker 11: cobbled together on offense. Then he took Mac on that

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Speaker 11: first year and you know, they were in first place

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Speaker 11: in mid December before the wheels came off the wagon there.

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Speaker 11: So I think he's done a good job of sort

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Speaker 11: of catering the offense to the skill set of the

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Speaker 11: quarterback in particular. And I think Drake's mobility and the

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Speaker 11: bigger arm will give him, you know, some opportunities that

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Speaker 11: maybe he didn't take with Mac Jones or he didn't

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Speaker 11: take with Cam Newton. I would expect them to push

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Speaker 11: the ball a little more. I mean, Drake wants to.

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Speaker 11: Drake will tell you that like I want to take shots.

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Speaker 11: So I think Josh will kind of cater the offense

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Speaker 11: to that and try to get the absolute best out

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Speaker 11: of them. I think so far the relationship is off

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Speaker 11: to a good start, though.

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Speaker 1: Mike, thanks man, I really appreciate you stopping by and

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Speaker 1: spending some time with us.

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Speaker 3: Always fine, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Mike Gardi, Boston Sports Journal, NFL writer.

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Speaker 2: We take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're going to tell you who the high school girls

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Speaker 2: flag football Coach of the Year is because we're going

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Speaker 2: to be right here in studio with us next on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by KLIDA Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: A Right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and joining us in studio now

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Speaker 2: is the coach of the year for flag football in

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Speaker 2: Section six. So we're announcing this with him right on set.

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Speaker 2: So week six high school girls flag football Coaches of

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Speaker 2: the Year, so first in Section five in Rochester It's

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Speaker 2: Ian Insley from Webster Schroeder. He led his team to

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Speaker 2: the Class B state title Ininsley has been the coach

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Speaker 2: at Webster Schroeder for the last three seasons. Meanwhile, in

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Speaker 2: Section six Buffalo Region, it's Mark Layer from Clarence. Coach

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Speaker 2: Layer coaches team to the regional finals. Has a forty

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Speaker 2: two and six record in three seasons. Each coach was

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Speaker 2: awarded an additional one thousand dollars grand for their team

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Speaker 2: and coach Layer here in studio with us. First, congratuate,

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Speaker 2: thanks very much, glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Second, we found out that you found out about your

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Speaker 2: award in a very unique way. Tell us about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was funny. I got an email and we

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Speaker 6: were kind of away in the Finger Lakes and they

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Speaker 6: asked if I could jump on a zoom call on

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Speaker 6: Monday morning, and I said sure, to talk about the

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Speaker 6: Coach of the Week program. So I said sure, and

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Speaker 6: then I zoomed in and I was waiting for the

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Speaker 6: call to come, and then all of a sudden, Khalil

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Speaker 6: Shakir popped up on the screen and full disclosure, I

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Speaker 6: didn't know he was. He was announcing the Coach of

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Speaker 6: the year. I thought he was just congratulating me for

1347
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 6: the Coach of the Week thing in the first week

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Speaker 6: of the season. But then it started to sink in

1349
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Speaker 6: as the conversation went on, and then I was aware, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: pretty cool, Yeah, pretty great, pretty great player, pretty great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I was talking to you, you know, as we

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01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: got ready. You're the only coach in Clarence's history because

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Speaker 1: it's so new. We're all new to this flag football thing,

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01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: and now it's going to be an Olympic event. I mean,

1356
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: do you talk to your players about you know, hey,

1357
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: the Olympics and all that. I mean, now it's really

1358
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Speaker 1: on everybody's It is radar now.

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Speaker 6: So in Western New York that's been around for four years.

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Speaker 6: Clarence has had it for three. So when it came

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Speaker 6: up three years ago, you know, they posted the position

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Speaker 6: like any other coaching position, and I was interested, so

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Speaker 6: I did it. We talked to our kids all the

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Speaker 6: time about the Olympics once that became an announcement. You know,

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Speaker 6: there's two really different variations of flag football. Like in schools,

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Speaker 6: we play seven on seven. The Olympic thing is going

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Speaker 6: to be five on five, so a little bit different.

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Speaker 6: Like the NFL flag that we went and we represented

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Speaker 6: the Bills in campon last summer that was five on five,

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Speaker 6: So it was a bit of a strategy adjustment for

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Speaker 6: us to play the five on five game. The seven

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Speaker 6: on seven game is very much like eleven on eleven football.

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Speaker 6: We run the ball and we throw the ball. The

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Speaker 6: five on five game is very much scrambling and throwing.

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Speaker 1: Right now, how much don't want to give away any

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01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: trade secrets or anything. Now, how much of this is

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: x's and o's and drawing up and how much is

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Speaker 1: it just the athleticism are you girls?

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Speaker 6: I'd say it's equally both. I think it's a big

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Speaker 6: advantage for the coaches, Like I had some experience coaching

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Speaker 6: boys football for thirty years in Clarence, and so I

1382
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Speaker 6: was able to use that knowledge to help the girls go.

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Speaker 6: And I approached it the same way practice, and we

1384
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 6: broke down into position groups and we worked on the

1385
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Speaker 6: running game. In the passing game we actually ran. At

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Speaker 6: the end of the season, I looked at the stats.

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Speaker 6: We ran the ball and threw the ball fifty percent

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Speaker 6: of the time exactly equally, and scored almost the same

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Speaker 6: amount of touchdowns running as we did throwing, So that

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Speaker 6: made us a difficult team to defend.

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Speaker 1: And that's the seven on seven.

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Speaker 6: That's seven on seven.

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Speaker 1: Five on five is different how.

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Speaker 6: It's all almost all throwing and you can't run the

1395
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Speaker 6: ball unless you snap the ball to someone and hand

1396
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 6: it to someone and then and be backwards then they

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01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 6: can run the ball. The rush is different. It really

1398
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 6: is more of a scrambled type game. And you know,

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Speaker 6: there are still pattern combinations and things you're doing, but

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Speaker 6: in seven on seven you're really I'm able to use

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Speaker 6: pattern combinations and things, you know, wheel post routes that

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01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 6: you would see an eleven on eleven team used. I'm

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Speaker 6: able to use all those things with the girls.

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Speaker 2: I imagine that. You know, the Olympic sports stuff obviously

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01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: gives it fantastic exposure. But I'm just thinking in my

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Speaker 2: mind's I like, if I'm a high school athlete, male

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Speaker 2: or female, and I'm seeing Sunni schools now starting to

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Speaker 2: set up flag football programs, that's much more in the

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01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: forefront of my radar because now I'm thinking, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: not just something I'm gonna play in high school. Like

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01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 2: if I got if I'm pretty good at this, i

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Speaker 2: could play it at the college level too, because you know,

1413
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming Geneseo grand I know they're trying to start

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Speaker 2: up a flag football program this fall.

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Speaker 1: So plus the Olympics are three years away.

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Speaker 6: So Rob Current is a coach at Geneseo and he

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 6: has a significant boys background also, and he's in the

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01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 6: NFL the Heads Up Tackle program. He was a big

1419
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Speaker 6: time involved in that. So yeah, we have two girls

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Speaker 6: that are ra at Geneseo that are playing, and he

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Speaker 6: just two of our girls just committed this year that

1422
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Speaker 6: are outgoing seniors that are going to play. So we're

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Speaker 6: gonna have four girls playing at Genesceo. I mean, you've

1424
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Speaker 6: got Villa Maria, You've got Duville, You've got all the

1425
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Speaker 6: local schools, and they're recruiting and contacting high school coaches

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Speaker 6: just like when I was the boys coach and was

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Speaker 6: being recruited. It talked to by Courtland and Brockport and

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Speaker 6: buff State.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: So it's happening and the girls really know it.

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Speaker 1: How fat quantify how fast it's.

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Speaker 6: Growing, it's incredible. So we this year at Clarence and

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01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 6: like nine or ten other schools added modified football to

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01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 6: the to the schedule. Yep, So we had so this

1435
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 6: will give you an idea. We had fifty seventh, eighth,

1436
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 6: and ninth graders try out for our modified team, and

1437
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 6: we had fifty nine, ten, eleventh, and twelfth graders try

1438
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Speaker 6: out for a varsity. So we had in Clarence, we

1439
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 6: had one hundred girls tryout for flag football. We kept

1440
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 6: the twenty six on the varsity and we kept about

1441
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 6: twenty four twenty five on the modified team.

1442
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's almost like you've got a feeder program

1443
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: now too huge, and that makes your it's a lighter

1444
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: lift for you. By the time you get those girls,

1445
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: it's like they're already indoctrinated. They know what's going on

1446
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 2: by far.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I spoke to some of the

1448
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Speaker 1: youth football guys in my village. They said, one of them,

1449
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: there's been a number of ripple effects to this, mostly

1450
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: that even the tackle football enrollment hasn't has exploded because

1451
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: parents are getting their kids and they'll will let you

1452
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: try flag football because there's the physicality of it for sure,

1453
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: and the kids are going, wow, this is awesome. I

1454
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: want to try it, And the parents, because it went

1455
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: so well as the flag side of it, say okay,

1456
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: we'll let you give it a try, and more and

1457
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: more kids are now signing up for the tackle football

1458
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: as well, so the sport's really exploding.

1459
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 6: It has really exploded. I think flag football has definitely

1460
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 6: helped parents who don't want to have their kid involved

1461
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 6: in tackle football when they're in third, fourth and fifth grade.

1462
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 6: It's a great way to introduce it. You know, the

1463
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 6: thing I saw happen as a tackle football coach through

1464
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 6: my career was the game. And you know this, the

1465
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 6: game just got safer and safer and safer because the

1466
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 6: coaching techniques of how to block and how to tackle,

1467
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 6: and heads up tackle and heads up blocking. You know,

1468
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 6: I never had to be trained in all of that

1469
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 6: when I was first starting. But at the end of

1470
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 6: my career, I was teaching kids to block and tackle

1471
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 6: completely differently than I was teaching at the beginning of

1472
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 6: my career. So flag football has provided an opportunity.

1473
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: It's really helped. And even at the highest level we

1474
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: see it here now more and more guys like Jayden

1475
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 1: Daniels last year. You get better players coming in to

1476
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: the league now because they get better coaching at lower levels,

1477
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: they've been coached by high quality guys at an earlier age.

1478
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: It just it's a it's an effect that we're feeling

1479
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: already at this level for sure.

1480
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 6: And I approached the teaching the girls exactly the way

1481
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 6: I taught the boys. One of the things I like

1482
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 6: to do is I go watch u be practice a lot,

1483
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 6: and I take drills and things back that I see

1484
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 6: Division one college football teams doing to our girls and

1485
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 6: I'm like, Okay, I saw this today. We're going to

1486
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 6: run this passing drill to work on our patterns and

1487
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 6: they love it. And so, yeah, my coaching style hasn't

1488
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 6: really changed at all. I run practice the same way,

1489
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 6: and I, you know, run strategy the same way. We scout.

1490
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 6: Their games are on film.

1491
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: Do you have a staff?

1492
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 6: So I have two volunteer coaches.

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Speaker 1: Some do.

1494
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 6: One was a dad and one was a teacher at

1495
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 6: the high school. The dad was with me for the

1496
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 6: first year and he ran the defense and the other

1497
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 6: gentleman who's a teacher, aid and he's been with me

1498
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 6: for all three years. And he did the special teams,

1499
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 6: which is punting and punt returning, and he worked with

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01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 6: our offensive and defensive line. That that's what we call him.

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01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 6: You can call positions whatever you want. Yeah, So it

1502
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 6: was key to have two or three other guys because

1503
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 6: you know, I can break down by positions, So I

1504
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 6: take the quarterbacks and running backs, someone else takes the

1505
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 6: receiver for someone else.

1506
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: Takes more hands on.

1507
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you're teaching a specific skill to the specific group.

1508
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,799
Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you. Sure, for a family

1509
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: or a young athlete that's considering flag, whether you know

1510
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: they're in the Clarence school district or somewhere else, what

1511
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: is the what are the best avenues to get online

1512
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: or get involved either school district wise or even club

1513
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: because there is club out there too, right.

1514
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 6: So that's a great question. So right now, what's happening

1515
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 6: around Western New York is many of the high schools

1516
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 6: and schools will run like the boys programs do, will

1517
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 6: run a week long summer camp. So certainly within your

1518
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 6: own school district, if your team has flag, your school

1519
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 6: has flag football, there may be an opportunity to experience

1520
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 6: camp like that. In addition, the colleges are doing it,

1521
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 6: so they're having one day, three day clinics and also

1522
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 6: they're putting on tournaments. And then you know right down

1523
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 6: the road at Sale in Sports Park, they're involved in

1524
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 6: getting a more travel type elite league where teams go

1525
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 6: travel in tournaments and it would run similar to travel

1526
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 6: soccer at twelve and under, fourteen hunder sixteen under. And

1527
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 6: they're in the process of getting a feelers out to

1528
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 6: see how a program like that can run. But it's

1529
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 6: going to happen. Yeah, it's going to happen. So there's

1530
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 6: tons of opportunities.

1531
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Mark is great to me, man, congratulate. It's a

1532
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: great year and continued success.

1533
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys having me here.

1534
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 2: Thank you, bet.

1535
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 6: Thanks.

1536
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: That's our Section six Flag Football Coach of the Year,

1537
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: Mark Layer joining us. We'll take a break, be back

1538
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 2: with more here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colleid

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

1540
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and kind

1541
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: of going over what kicks you back into football mode

1542
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: after you know, kind of kicking back in the summertime

1543
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe doing some other things besides being

1544
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: glued to your bills. And we crack open the tweet

1545
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 2: sheet at this point in time to get some of

1546
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: your thoughts there tweets. She brought to you by Corrigan

1547
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: Moving Systems the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills,

1548
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: where biscuit Man says, when fantasy drafts happen or get scheduled,

1549
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm already in football mode. That's what my neighbor mentioned

1550
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 2: to me. I get my fantasy draft day, it's on,

1551
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: like he's locked back in.

1552
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: I was surprised when we started talking about this, how

1553
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: training camp doesn't do it for me.

1554
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple of our callers said, training camp

1555
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 2: used to do it for me, but not anymore.

1556
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, one guy was like, you know, League Soft,

1557
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: you know anymore? So I'm not I'm done with it.

1558
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: I get that. But I guess this is what I

1559
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: really really wanted to hear from this question was when

1560
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: does it? When do you start going all right, well, yeah,

1561
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 1: let's go. You know, is it that first regular season

1562
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 1: game for me? You know, I told you it was

1563
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: getting into the booth and doing the preseason games with

1564
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: Andrew Catalan and all that. Yeah, that's like slipping into

1565
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: a you know, a glove for me. It fit really good.

1566
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: And you too. I mean you're in the broadcast booth.

1567
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 1: You've been there, so for me, that's when it really goes.

1568
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: You said, you know, doing the tune up for the

1569
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 1: Blue and Red and the Blue scrimmage.

1570
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: I do a practice game. It's not going over the

1571
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: air anywhere. It's just kind of for us, yeah, to

1572
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 2: kind of get back into the groove of calling a game,

1573
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 2: the rhythm of that.

1574
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: I got to say, I didn't think about this, or

1575
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: you and I sitting we're sitting here talking about this.

1576
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: We're kind of out of football. We're talking about we're

1577
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: on one Bill's lives, kind of out of football mode

1578
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: right now.

1579
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: Right because there's you know, and we're already talking about

1580
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: getting back into it.

1581
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: Right. We're Goners. We're total Gonners because we have these tentpoles.

1582
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about it. It's the super Bowl,

1583
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: it's free agency, the Combine, the draft, OTAs, mini camp,

1584
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: and then it's dark and then training camp.

1585
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1586
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: I mean we've got all these tentpole events and are

1587
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: all in the off season and we're back in it,

1588
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: and once the season starts, it's like over. So, I mean,

1589
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: you and I we don't have any excuse for being

1590
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: out of football mode, right, and yet here we are,

1591
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: well we try.

1592
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: I don't know that wherever really more than arm's length

1593
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,799
Speaker 2: away from it, but yeah, yeah, George on the tweets

1594
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 2: sheet says, the start of training camp gets my juices flowing.

1595
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:47,839
Speaker 2: With all the new players now actually participating go bills,

1596
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: I was expecting that to be the popular answer, Like

1597
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: training camp is almost like the alarm clock, like seasons coming,

1598
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 2: let's start getting ready.

1599
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: I know that's what it is for the players. I mean,

1600
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: you go in there, you turn it on. You're doing

1601
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: it every day. And unlike the team building exercise they

1602
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: do in OTAs and in mini camp and all the

1603
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: academic stuff they do in mini camp, they do some

1604
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: on field stuff obviously, but you get to training camp

1605
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: and I think they go what they go a week

1606
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: without pads, five days or five practices without pads, something

1607
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: like that, and then they throw the pads on, and man,

1608
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: it's you can tell, and you feel like as a

1609
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: player it counts as well. You're getting evaluated, not that

1610
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: you're not getting evaluated all the time, but now it counts,

1611
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna either be elevated above you or you're

1612
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna elevate again above somebody else with your play and

1613
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: with your performance, your production. And you can feel the

1614
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: weight of the evaluation in everything you do, and it's

1615
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: it's easy for players to move. Man, all of a sudden,

1616
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: you're it's it's from zero to sixty.

1617
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1618
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: Bill on the tweets sheet says, and Street and Smith catalogs.

1619
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: You remember those magazines? Wow?

1620
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 9: I do?

1621
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, football previews, Basketball, I remember doing the college basketball previews.

1622
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: Also football games popping up on YouTube. But summer is

1623
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 2: special in and of itself. It does not need to

1624
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: compete with football. Football is great for many reasons, including

1625
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 2: that it is a distraction from fifty two degrees in rain.

1626
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: We'll scart too, We'll having fun with it.

1627
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 2: Andrews says, well, usually after football season, I switch over

1628
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: to baseball season, and the only thing that keeps me

1629
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: thinking about football is listening to your show. Other than

1630
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 2: that till the season starts. That's when I switch gears,

1631
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 2: all right, So he kind of goes football to baseball

1632
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: and then back again pretty much. Actually, baseball isn't even

1633
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: over and he's already back into football.

1634
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: I yeah, you know how I feel about baseball. I

1635
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: turned the race. Even when they start talking about the

1636
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: teams and the races and where that and the trade

1637
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: deadline and the trade I guess had trade happened yesterday

1638
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: because every time they start talking about I turned the channel.

1639
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: So I'm I literally program surf. If they start talking

1640
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: about that sport just because it has it holds me

1641
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: no injury, It holds no enough for me.

1642
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 2: I know you have an issue with baseball.

1643
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 1: I have an issue with it.

1644
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: It just yeah, oh you have an issue with it.

1645
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: It's it's boring.

1646
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: Jonathan on the tweets sheet says, football season starts with

1647
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: preseason game number one and ends with the Super Bowl.

1648
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: A handful of other days have reason to pay attention

1649
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 2: with the draft and the first day or two of

1650
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: free agency, but the rest of it is a distant breeze.

1651
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: That ninety nine percent, if not more, especially as a fan,

1652
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: is meaningless. So it's all about the games for Jonathan,

1653
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 2: and I get that it is for me, And he

1654
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: might be considered a what you call a casual fan,

1655
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: a guy that is locked in for the games, but

1656
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 2: all the other ancillary stuff, you know, he's not glued

1657
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 2: to it like you know, we got We've got some

1658
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: people to call this show pretty frequently. They'll do with

1659
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: three sixty five. They are glued to the draft. They

1660
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 2: know one hundred and fifty of the three hundred prospects

1661
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 2: that get picked.

1662
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Intimately, Jonathan strikes me as one of those unfortunate souls

1663
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: who might have a life other than right.

1664
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: There's a good chance of that.

1665
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: He seems to have something we call perspective, which is

1666
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: confusing and scary.

1667
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rest of us are the rest of us

1668
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: are universally focused in Gonners. Jack says, it's a three

1669
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: sixty five league, So I never really stopped thinking about

1670
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: the Bills and either what they're doing, what they've done

1671
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 2: so far, or what's upcoming. That said, I feel like

1672
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: in the summer doldrums, it's the day they arrive at

1673
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: camp that really snaps me back from football fantasy to

1674
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: football reality.

1675
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, unlike most, I don't know, because there was such

1676
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: a stretch there with the drought that you and that

1677
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: all of us kind of endured together, right, Oh yeah,

1678
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: and we would get to camp with oh my gosh,

1679
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: you'd have eight you're juggling eight things. You're trying to

1680
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: keep eight things in the air, and they're all question

1681
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: marks about the roster. You're all question marks about quarterback

1682
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: and who's gonna play wide out and is the offensive

1683
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: line gonna play it is, Oh my gosh, what do

1684
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: we you know, we got so many questions and now

1685
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: there's none of that.

1686
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: There's very little of it. You're just you're looking cornerback

1687
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: two is yeah, quarterback two, like there's there are going

1688
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 2: to be. There are like clear candidates. There, there are answers.

1689
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: You just have to see which one materializes.

1690
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean you're sitting there going, honey, baby, let's just

1691
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: tee it up, let's go, you know, I'm uh so.

1692
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that these days. That makes it

1693
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: a completely different feeling than it was back when it's like,

1694
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what are we gonna do? You know,

1695
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: who's gosh? I hope EJ doesn't throw it into the hospitality.

1696
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh he did. Oh well, you know it was fun

1697
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: when the last okay, maybe next year, that's you know,

1698
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: it was so disheartening when it's just everything got popped

1699
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: the second, you know, fourth day of training camp, just like,

1700
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: oh gosh, it's gonna be long. We waited for this.

1701
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: David on the tweet sheet says, my wife gets mad

1702
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: because I watch OBL all year long. Oh yeah, David,

1703
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: you're such a kiss up. But we're grateful.

1704
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: That's why you're on the tweet sheet.

1705
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: She'll say the season is over and nothing's going on

1706
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: right now. Give it a break, I say, honey, football

1707
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,839
Speaker 2: is all year long. Even during the drought, I couldn't

1708
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 2: wait for next season, believing we would finally end it.

1709
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: Go Bills.

1710
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: See David's around the bend like the rest of us.

1711
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, David. The perspective is is lost on David. Good

1712
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: for him, bless his heart.

1713
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of us, He's.

1714
01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: One of them.

1715
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 2: Another David, David said, the other David says, I'll never

1716
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: leave football mode. But anticipation for a season has never

1717
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: been greater. Can't wait all caps exclamation points and we

1718
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: get we get that, I.

1719
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 6: Know, we sit there.

1720
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. How different is it the anticipation of

1721
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: a season where you think this could be the year

1722
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: where you're going to break the drought, or this could

1723
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: be a year when you know they totally outperform expectations,

1724
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: or the you that you know what I mean.

1725
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: That's the funny thing about I'm just referencing the last

1726
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: time we had a coach in his first year. Nobody

1727
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: expected playoffs in McDermott's first year, and then it happened like,

1728
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: think back to that training camp, your weekends of training camp.

1729
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 2: Sammy Watkins is traded. The next day Ronald Darby's traded.

1730
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, so the last two of the last

1731
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 2: three first round picks are gone, or not first round picks,

1732
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: but first picks are gone because they had no first

1733
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 2: round or the year they took Derby in twenty fifth teen.

1734
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 2: In round two twenty fourteen, they trade for Watkins.

1735
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: And then they let court. Didn't Courty Glenn go.

1736
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: Well, Cordy Glenn was part of the Josh Allen acquisition.

1737
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 2: He was a trade during year right, No, that was

1738
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 2: the following year because Josh was the eighteen dr So,

1739
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: but that's.

1740
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 1: The you're right mcdermom's first year when they traded Darby

1741
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: traded Sammy, They're like going, everybody's like, oh they're tanking. Yeah,

1742
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: we all see the plan. Here it comes. It's gonna stink,

1743
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be worth it, where I promise.

1744
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 2: And then they turned around in the Nine gamesofs.

1745
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: And the moment they win the playoffs is one of

1746
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 1: the all time moments in the entire franchise's history. It's

1747
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: just an absolute, beauty, unbelievable day. Oh, just the best.

1748
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 2: Finally, Joey on the tweets sheet says, I never leave

1749
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 2: football mode. I still shave my ankles in case I

1750
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: have to them. No, seriously, I'm seventy seven years old.

1751
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: DV are you guys every day? It's the highlight of

1752
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: my day. Okay, at least one of them. Keep up

1753
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 2: the good work, boys, and we'll talk again soon.

1754
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 1: Go Bills. You are a man after my own heart.

1755
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: Shaving your ankles so you can tape them up.

1756
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

1757
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: That is great.

1758
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he didn't have pre wrap that

1759
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: They don't do that anymore because you had pre rap, right,

1760
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 2: so you don't have to pull off your arm and abd.

1761
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame trainer used to say taping your

1762
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: guys just tape their own ankles because they don't want

1763
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: to wait in line. All that he said, Not only

1764
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,480
Speaker 1: is taping your own ankles aloud, it's encouraged.

1765
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: Well, that is. That was a fun conversation today. Good

1766
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 2: good comments on the tweets sheet there. Thanks for all

1767
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: of those, Steve and I will be back here to

1768
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 2: check in with you tomorrow. We will see you at

1769
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 2: the same time. It's one pm.