WEBVTT - Draft Show: Full 7-Round Mock; Final Thoughts 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.600 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys on 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:13.160 the bour war Room for Incenter news and draft analysis, 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:19.239 Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Elliott and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.040 David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, it must be 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.480 getting close to draft time because they let us out 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.120 of the office to do one of our road shows. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.600 And uh, as the Big Boys guy said, you have 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.360 the draft show it is. Brian brought us, Dame Burglar, 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.800 David Hellman and we've got Jeff kavanot Hill join us 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.240 a little bit later on here in the program. Boys, 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.479 how's it feel to be out on the road. It 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.839 feels good to have it be draft week? How about that? 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.680 I'm excited about that too. And as I mentioned, we're 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.240 out here at Shakerton's right, Dave, Yes, Shakerton's in the colony. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.279 If you're in the Dallas Fort Worth area. We're here 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.600 till seven o'clock. They got special giveaways and prizes the 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.200 whole time. We're here excited about that. This used to 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.000 be my This Shue is my stomping grounds. Me and 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.560 Dane we were across the street. Yeah, I have to 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.080 venture over here quite a bit nice little area over here, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.039 lively little area here. Absolutely five minutes south of us. Absolutely, yeah. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.240 So if you're in the area, come on buy and 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.200 see us. We got plenty of Miller light here for 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.840 you facts and we're enjoying ourselves. We're gonna get into 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.039 some draft talk today. Of course. What I want to do, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.240 guys is I'd like to get into the Cowboys. I'd 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.399 like to do a seven round mock draft, at least 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.800 for the first hour of the program. I'd like to 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.679 I'd like to be able to get into that and 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.120 kind of give folks an idea of what names might 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.600 be there at fifty eight and then at ninety and 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.679 then as we go through this draft, I want to 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.280 be able to talk about if we need to move up, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.400 do we need to move back, do we need This 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.440 is something that we annually do every year on the 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:54.960 Draft show. We thought so, I thought it'd be a 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.680 good opportunity to take it out in front of a 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:01.720 crowd and see folks reactions as we do this. So 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.840 with that being said, I always turned the draft over 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.840 to Dane Brugler, and Dane kind of explained the ground 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.760 rules of what you got going in this draft and 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.240 how we're going to follow the draft. Well, obviously this 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.880 year is a little different. No first rump pick so 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.480 for the Cowboys, So first round we'll be watching. Okay, 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.320 but it really doesn't matter for yeah, watching being the 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.440 keyword exactly. Really, it's gonna be what safeties are off 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.520 the board in the first thirty two picks, right close 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.360 eye on that a couple of these visits, does a 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.800 long thornhill sneaking in the top thirty two. Okay, that'll 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.040 be something we're watching for because as we begin day 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.920 two then starts things start to get more interesting. And 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.800 as we watch, safeties want to watch for people that 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.359 fall too right exactly who gets pushed onto day two 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.880 of the draft? Someone that uh, you know, a Montest 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.880 sweat is someone that's been in the news this week 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.920 because of the heart condition. Yeah, I don't think he's 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.960 fallen that far. No, I don't think so either the 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.000 teams that we've talked to. It's it's a concern, but 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.600 not something that should be a free fall. It's not 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.440 a more res first situation. Okay, Yeah, and what about like, okay, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.200 people have all I've asked me about Jeffrey Simmons from 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.639 Mississippi State as being another guy who had to do 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.000 with off the field stuff and then dealing with a 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:19.160 knee injury. Is there a possibility of him sliding from 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.760 say the middle of the draft all the way back 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.040 to the back end of the second round, back end 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.280 of the second that's just hard to see. He's too good, Yeah, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.080 he's way too good. Now could he slip to the 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.600 second round? It's possible because we're talking about a guy 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.120 that basically has to take a red shirt year and listen, 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.160 day in this day in age Acls. You feel good 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.400 he's gonna be able to come back, but still, everybody's 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.760 knees different. You just never know. So it's a big 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.560 risk to take in the first round one that I 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.000 bet you know, team like mebe the Patriots could go 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.960 after let me ask you this, and like we always 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.160 talk about this, Brian, you love to talk about like 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.920 the start of day two, you know, the first pick, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.520 the value for the first pick on Day three, the 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.360 first pick of that fourth round. So when we're closing 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.960 this thing down on Thursday night, how many names and 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.120 they're still gonna have to wait a while on Friday 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.520 because they don't pick till fifty eight. But how many 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.160 names do you think we're gonna be really excited about 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.720 that they're still there, Like as you know, maybe a 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.400 Simon slips or you know, anything like that. You know, 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.720 Taylor Rap maybe falls out of the first round because 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.720 of his slow forty time. I just wonder. I feel 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.560 like it's a good bet most of these guys were 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.120 talking about are still going to be in play. Yeah, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.040 I think that obviously we'll get more exciting as the 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:34.159 second round and talking to people with the organization, they're 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.080 hopeful that they have a top forty player that somehow 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.279 gets to them. That's where it happens every single they're 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.200 they're hopeful that when they when they when their turn 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.920 to pick at fifty eight, that whether that player is 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:52.320 an injury guy. You know Thompson the safety from Alabama 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.800 as an example of a guy that has the injured wrist. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.839 But he was a guy when we started this process 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.400 that all of a sudden he was a first round 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.760 guy and now nobody, nobody talks about him at all 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.359 at all. So but you know, we and we haven't 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.320 included him in the safety and have we not included 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.039 him in the safety talk because he's similar to what 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.880 they have with Xavier Woods. Is that is that why 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.640 we don't focus on Thompson the safety from Alabama very much? 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.479 I think that makes a lot of sense. And listen, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.360 they have not shown any interest in Deontay Thompson at all, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.240 not at all it visits meetings, they have shown zero 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.440 interest in Deontay Thompson. Could that be one big uh, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.080 you know, way to hide? Would you want to do? Sure? 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.120 But it's a long shot. I don't think Deontay Thompson 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.760 is in the plans for this team. But we'll be 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.760 interesting to see what safeties fall or how many safeties 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.400 go in the first round. Uh, maybe in the siratterlie, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.520 maybe a thornhill. I think Darnell Savage has gotten a 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.320 lot of run lately. Is it possible? The answer is none, 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.159 It is possible. That's the answer that I want. I 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.440 think it's possible. Likely, probably not. You know with the 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.040 safety group is uh, it's a deep group, but it 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.000 doesn't start to flex its muscles until the second round. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.560 If you had to guess, is I can't imagine it to 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.760 to be more than two. That'd be surprising. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.920 maybe one, maybe two? Right? Is there going to be 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.800 a surprise though it's safety are we Are we going 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.599 to feel like though that maybe Thornhill will go above 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.839 a Taylor rout Is there going to be somebody that 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.480 we've been ranking as that third or fourth guy that's 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.520 gonna end up being the guy behind Adderley that we're 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.880 add The reason we've been talking about Thornhill so much 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.560 interchangeable productive, he tested off the charts. I mean, there's 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.520 a reason we've been talking about him, and because of 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.800 those reasons, there's a good chance he could sneak into 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.080 the top thirty two. And you mentioned this team could 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.640 be looking at him as a corner kind of like 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:51.120 the Byron Jones situation. Absolutely Seattle pick twenty one. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.560 there there's two hurdles that I think that he has 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.320 to get by. I think he'd be a perfect fit 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.560 for what they want to do. So all of a sudden, 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.200 with the Chiefs there at that twenty ninth pick now 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.520 belonging to the Seattle Seahawks, I think that is a 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.320 possible destination for him. Darnhill Savage from Maryland, who he's 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.400 been getting up a lot of run lately in league circles. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.360 About a guy who teams really alike. He's undersized. So 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:20.520 Thornhill or Adderlei or Savage as that potential guy both, Yeah, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.160 I think both because they're they well, they're different skill sets. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.160 One thorn Hill is a little bigger than Savage, but 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.640 Savage has been He's crushed the entire process, just like 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:33.640 Thornhill Senior Bowl combine workouts and those things matter. Whereas 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.840 we talked about Deontay Thompson not being able to work out, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.600 do a full workout, Um Taylor Rab running the four 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.360 seven eighth, those things matter. Jonathan Abram some worries about 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.480 maybe the shoulder or some missues going on there. Absolutely 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.880 so because of these issues, all of a sudden, the 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.400 first two Nasira Adderley, he hasn't been healthy. He ran 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.760 a four six at his pro day, wasn't able to 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.920 do a full workout because of his ankle. So all 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.280 of a sudden we could be talking about one Thornhill 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.920 and a guy like Savage as two of the first 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.240 three safeties off the board. I'm gonna go out on 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.680 a small limb. I mean, Dane just set it up 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.400 so it's not a big limb. But the order that 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.440 these safeties come off the board will be surprising for 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.560 one reason or another. Yeah, you know, maybe maybe Savage 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.840 is a first rounder. Yeah, that's maybe. Thornhill goes a 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.200 lot higher. I've seen, you know, Chauncey Gardner Johnson flexes 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.920 anywhere from like thirty two to sixty depending on who 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.640 you're talking to. So I just it's gonna be that'll 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.800 be an intriguing thing to watch as this unfold. You 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.000 can say the same thing about the corners too. You know, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.800 who's gonna be the first corner off the board? Will 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.839 it be Greedy Williams, will be Byron Murphy, Rocky a 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.840 Sin from Temple could absolutely be him. And what order 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.920 they come off any in the top twenty five. It 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.400 really will be fascinating these DB's as a whole to 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.360 see how many go in the first round and what 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.680 order and then who's left and when we start the 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.520 second round. Yeah, and so okay, with with all that 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.520 being said, let's get this draft story now, and we're 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.440 gonna take out of play the first round, right Yeah, 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.360 first forty picks would take the first forty picks off 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.880 the board, right right, So no need to go into 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.240 that kind of have an idea of well when and 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.240 we'll pick it up and say pick forty one and 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.240 then work our way down through this Cowboys seven round 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.280 mock trap. Sounds good? Okay. So for this purpose is 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.240 if you like bigger names off the board, maybe that 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.280 we would consider falling to fifty eight. Okay, LJ. Colliers 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.480 off the board. He went thirty five to the Raiders. Okay, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.720 so we lose a defensive end there. Yeah, the safeties 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.040 that we were just talking about, na see her add 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.400 Early and Jonathan Abraham both off the board. Okay, so 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.360 far top forty safeties. Okay, who else we've been talking 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:39.600 about it as possibilities. Jeffrey Simmons has gone thirty two 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.800 to the Patriots. Um so starting at forty one, that's 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.920 where Darnell Savage goes. So another safety off the board. Okay, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.640 So so okay, let's let's okay re read. Okay, sound 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.880 like to me, you've already said, what three safeties off 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.800 the board? First safety off the board? Right? But none 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.240 of the ones that like devastate me, you know, because 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.360 I gave up on those dreams a long time ago. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.360 If that makes sense. Okay, but does that make us 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.559 think about now maybe having to trade up in this 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.000 thing at these things. That's what I'm saying, because nobody 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.360 that I expected to like this is all quilling according 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.320 to plan so far? Okay, Like, didn't we give up 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.240 on Abraham a while ago? I think? So, yeah, yeah, Okay, 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.720 well okay, let's look at that scenario. What would it 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.319 take to get up to pick forty two? I think 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:21.880 what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna get 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.720 that third round pick to get to forty five. The 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.400 numbers are gonna be your Your pick is worth your 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:33.040 pick there at what I give it to. One thirty 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.960 seven is worth one hundred and fifty points, So to 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.360 get to forty five, it's one hundred and twenty points. 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.880 You know you're gonna have to probably overpay a little bit, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.640 but that's that third round pick will get you to 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.360 where you need to go. Is that something you want 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.559 to talk about? Is that something we want to discuss 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.160 as a realistic possibility, giving up that third coming away 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.160 with the safety that we want. Okay, now we have 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.040 to think. We have to think about though, what we're 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.559 giving if we're gonna move, if we're gonna make this move, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.000 we have to think about what are the possibility that 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.240 we're gonna lose in the third round there, if you 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.480 know what are we gonna lose? Are we looking at 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.240 you know? If we're gonna go for it? Now? Dane 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.760 always told me, and he's absolutely right about this. If 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.120 you're gonna go you're going for a player. Ye You're 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.280 not going for a position. You're going for a player. 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.920 And he's absolutely right about that. So we have to 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.440 determine though, if we're going to get a player or 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.400 if we just sit. Does it mean more to us 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.040 just to sit and be able to get a defensive tackle, 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.520 get a running back, get a possible defensive end, get 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.360 a corner there, wide receiver. I mean, there's we're limiting 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.080 a lot of things that we can do if we 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.439 decide to go up. Doesn't doesn't this team need bodies 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.320 like you look at all the contracts that are going 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.120 to expire soon, and the Cowboys will absolutely Cowboys will 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.480 resign some of them. Amari Cooper will be here, Dak 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.120 Prescott will be here. But that's a there's a lot 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.640 of guys with expiring contracts, so you're getting rid of 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.720 a premium. Pick a guy you expect to be a 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.319 major contributor and let me frame it this way. Last year, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.200 picking middle of the second round, middle of the third 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:03.280 round instead of coming away with Connor Williams and Michael Gallup, right, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.240 would you rather have those two players or maybe a 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.080 trader for Courtland Sutton? Because that's this is what we're 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.520 talking about, coming away with one player or two players? Yeah, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.760 and and and actuality, you're getting two starters now because 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.880 if you look at with, you know, with with with 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.360 Michael Gallup, you know he's likely to be starting the 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.360 opposite right of Cooper and then you've got you know, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.760 the left guard exactly. So, and that's the scenario. You 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.800 maybe you're getting a little bit better wide receiver in 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.240 Courtland Sutton, right, but you're losing a starter on your 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.360 offensive line. So, and that's what we're talking about here, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.240 because you're giving up that third round pick. Would you 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.280 expect to be, if not a starter, a big time 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.600 contributor to your football team? And you have to give 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.800 that up to go up and get jember player you 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.760 want to get. You don't have any d tackles under 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.600 contract in twenty twenty. And that's what are you're saying. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.880 I'm saying unless there's something crazy going on like you know, 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.960 if if if if Simmons is plumbing down the board, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.120 if it's you know, this crazy talent. Okay, yeah, well 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.199 he was going he was right, I mean, no disrespect, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.120 no shade intended to wand Thornhill. But is he that 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.560 you see that guy, see the one guy that I 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.800 would consider trading up for. And this is gonna sound 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.679 crazy because everybody's really calling him just a box safety 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.880 is rap. Yeah, that's the one guy, and maybe he's 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.839 the one guy that should be sliding because he's still here. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.240 And yeah, okay, if with him still being on the 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.360 board and I and we're now at forty two, I'm 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.000 I'm gonna sit. I'm gonna sit right now and see. Yeah, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.680 now I'm gonna entertain this. This thing gets down to 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.240 eight picks, eight more picks, I'm doing this if it's 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:38.960 in a range where I only have to give up 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.440 a fourth. I don't want to give up a third. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.760 Yeah that's how I feel. Okay, so we'd have to 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.320 go up. Okay, Okay, I'm with you. Let's go. Okay, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.880 we're gonna sit right now as we speak, We're gonna sit, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:53.240 yeah and watch the fifty and eight picks to get 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.640 to us. Okay, this is gonna be tough. I need 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.080 a turkey sandwich in a Miller light right now. So 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:58.800 we help you out with one of those. Yeah, I 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.120 can't want to check exactly. Uh, Mac Wilson's off the board. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.640 Justin Lane's off the board. Dalan Reisener's off the board. Okay, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.680 let's focus. So we just lost here, linebacker from Alabama, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.800 linebacker from Alabama, juststin laying the corner from the corner state. Okay, 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.880 we're still okay, We're still okay. And then we lost Reisener, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:19.480 the tackle guards center from Kansas State, first of all 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.520 player like that, Okay, at forty five, Atlanta, it's one 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.480 of our safeties. Gardner Johnson's off the board. Okay, So 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.400 Atlanta taken one of our safeties. Okay, Now let's reset 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.600 and think about what safeties we still have on the board. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:37.480 Safeties that are still available. Taylor Raphill, we just talked 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.160 about his possibility around one. Yeah, he's still still here 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.640 in this scenario exactly. Yeah, I got you. Okay, So 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.800 we're good. We're in good shape right now. We're still 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.800 got thirteen picks to us, right, that's right. Okay, let's 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.800 let's go. Let's keep going. Okay. DeAndre Bakers off the board. Okay, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:57.600 it's onner from Georgia. A Keen Butler watership Iowa State. Okay, Carolina, Okay. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.280 Sean Bunting corner from Central Chigan, a really good player. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.280 That's kind of right. Risen up the boards here, I 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.960 mean the word fifth and sticky, Yeah, sticky player and 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.840 yeah color yeah, covering clawber I like that a lot. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.440 Uh Browns of forty nine take Taylor rap Ah, there's 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.640 one of you guys. Okay, so now we're down to 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.800 one safety. Okay, let's just to play. You know, you 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.960 want to consider all the options. So forty nine, that's 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.320 a trade of nine spots, right, how much does that cost? 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:27.960 It's gonna cost us one of our four? It's gonna 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.600 cost you think you could do that for a fourth round? 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.760 Think we could do it for work? Were COMPENSI you 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.040 have for our own four? Is what we'd have to do. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.480 You'd have to, assuming the Browns are dead set on 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.640 rap You'd have to trade to forty eight, though, wouldn't you. Yeah, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.080 So a jump of ten spots, you think pick one? 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.360 Think before do that one twenty six gets ten spots. 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.040 I don't know. I don't know either. I think it 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.080 would be I'm gonna try and offer it and see 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.120 what happens. I think that's where I mean. I'm gonna 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.240 try and make that move to see if they might 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.440 be a team that's interested in Baylin. You know what 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:02.200 I'm saying. I'm the closer you get picking Miami Dolphins. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.720 there's a new general manager there, Chris Greer collected picks 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:10.760 stat team, there's there's piling team picks. I'm gonna try 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.120 and offer Chris that and see if it works. Okay, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.000 you're thinking, though, we're still gonna have to give her three. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:16.720 I don't think they're gonna. I don't think a four 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.680 is enough a late four, because even even the Cowboys 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:25.160 four is a late four. It's who did the Dolphins? Yeah, 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.200 a late fourth over a cornerback that you had in 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.200 your top forty. I don't know, man, I don't think 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.760 it's I don't think it's claws. Okay, it's not gonna be. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.880 Say if they don't want to take that, then let's 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.160 keep moving. Yeah, let's keep moving here. Then. I just 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.120 don't want people to think we didn't fight for Taylor 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:45.200 rap Ye, just trying to cover our bases Minnesota Draymond 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.960 Jones fifty one. All right, that's where wan Thorn Hills 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.280 coming off the board. So there's our safeties were wiped out. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.440 So we lost our safety at we were seven spots 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.120 from us. Yes, we've determined that we didn't. We weren't. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.200 We weren't gonna move. I don't think one eight would 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.840 be enough to move off seven in a second. So 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:08.960 by me not giving enough, we lost an opportunity to 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.440 go and get this guy. Yeah, that's that's the draft 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.520 for you. Yep. Jerry didn't want to give up a 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.720 third for Paxton. See I didn't. I didn't want I 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.720 didn't want to give up the third either. Yeah, because 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.320 I was thinking, I was thinking, Okay, maybe maybe I 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.600 can work a deal where they want to bail. They 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.200 just want picks, you know that kind of thing. Isn't 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.960 that a pipe dream? You know it? We'll look what 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.120 Dallas did that time when they dropped a gut. Yeah, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.240 Travis fred they got they got worked on the deal. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.080 They had it. They should have given it. They should 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:37.840 have got a second round pick, and only got was 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.400 a third. Yeah, so sometimes you could get but then 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.959 that was an eighteen player or an eighteen spot drop. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.439 All due respect to the organization, wouldn't most people agree 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.520 that that like shouldn't happen. Yeah, it shouldn't happen. It 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.199 shouldn't happen at all. So I can't count on that. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.480 Let me bring jeff Cavanaugh in from A one or 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.560 five three the fan. Jeffrey, we sat here and determined 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.879 that we we're just gonna sit this thing out. You 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.880 guys lost all my guys, didn't You guys lost my guys. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.520 Maybe you didn't hear that they're picking six spots away 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.159 from the end of the second round. Like I was 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.400 over here trying to get my guys scream you want 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:14.800 to get rid of the third round pick. No, we 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.520 did the right thing. We're great. Okay, you think you 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.520 think by just sitting there though you did the right thing. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.120 I should should should the Cowboys have offered the third 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.400 round pick. Who was the last safety we lost? Thornhill? 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:30.040 I wouldn't. It's strange because I talked to Steven and 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.439 he told me their number one thing in the safety 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:37.640 is get the ball, and Thornhill is that guy. But 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.760 I would rather go up for rap Yeah, because I 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.000 feel like it fits better and I just have him 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:48.439 grated better pay. Not the three, okay, not the three 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.879 that We're just gonna wait and pick a guy. Don 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.439 I now call him a coward? Or do I call 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.840 myself a coward for not doing that? Everything in two 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.240 good players. Everything's black and white with you, Like you 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.280 can be unwilling to make the trade and not be 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.919 a coward, you know, like that's no. I cost us 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.359 an opportunity to maybe get a guy. Now you have 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.120 an opportunity to get two guys. Okay, it's fine, it's 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.359 gonna be okay, it's gonna think so yeah, yeah, all 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.240 right at safety now, yeah, but we're wiped out at safety, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.600 so it's not to reset the board. Okay, how many 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.320 players did you watch Dame total? Yeah? God, I don't 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.960 know a thousand. Surely there's a safety somewhere. Yeah. We 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.400 we fist pumped about a sixth round safety two years 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.840 ago starting for the Cowboys. Now, okay, true, Okay, so 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:30.320 we're sitting at fifty one. We just lost Thornhill. I've 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.760 thrown my pin for you know, half a dozen guy, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.360 exactly exactly. I've thrown my pin. So now let's sit 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.119 and see where we get. Let's see what players are 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.360 Bill will for us at fifty eight, start at fifty two? 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.800 Please some players off the board. It's one of bitch, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.000 that's your guy right there. Okay, Now that that's interesting. 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.439 Polite got to you right and all that he's a 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:58.320 top fifteen talent, that's probably top fifteen tape, top fifteen tape. Yeah, okay. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.119 Was that something that you guys would have hoped for 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.000 with the cowboys? I mean, would you have hoped for 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.520 I would have with the names that we're kicking around 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.200 at fifty eight. I think he has considerably better tape 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:09.880 than the ends that we're gonna kick around a fifty 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.600 eight tape, there's no there's no question. But when you 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.119 factor in everything else, that's where discussion gets a little muddy. Uh, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.080 guy that has been overweight? You can't trust him? Is 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:24.200 he gonna sound like Dave? Wow? Thanks? Thanks man? As 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.320 I take a poll on my miller, is he gonna 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:32.040 put it all together and reach his potential? That's and 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:33.680 that's why he's still availing. He fall outs out of 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.640 the top fifty and he's still available here. Okay, sow 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:39.640 at fifty three. Now go ahead, Uh see Elgin's Jenkins 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.840 the center from Mississippi State. That's a great spot for him, 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.760 by the way, if he doesn't go earlier than now, yeah, 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.000 I mean that's a steal at that point for the Texans. 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.919 Isaiah Johnson a corner we've talked about, Okay, Chris Richard 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.720 went and worked Isaiah Johnson out. It's early. You think 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.360 it's early on him. No, he's going, He's going. That's early. 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.720 If you're wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's let's why. 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.440 Why is he early? Because his tape's not that good? 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:06.679 What do you not like about his tape that he 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.200 doesn't know how to play corner? You think it because 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.359 of the positions. I mean that maybe some of his 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.280 tackle attempts look like it's his first game. Oh, his 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.119 tackling is driving, And I get it. I get it. 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.520 I get the athleticism in the size and betton On, 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.560 as Jerry would say, betton On, the come if you're 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.440 gonna do that in the second round, God, that's just 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.600 that's early to me. I'm not saying it won't happen. Thanks, 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.280 probably right, it probably will. I wouldn't want it to 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.200 be my team. Okay, so we're at fifty four, right, Yeah, 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.000 when you're six two and thirty three in jarms as 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:36.919 a corner and you run four four zero, you're just 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.160 you're gonna go high. Yes, that's kind of the rules. Absolutely. 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.560 Uh see IERF. Smith to the Patriots. Wow, oh you 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:46.840 almost made it. Almost made it? Okay, Now let's ask 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.040 about that real quick. Tight end is a position would 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.680 you have considered with the safeties all being gone? Would 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.520 you have considered a tight end at fifty eight? Or 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.000 is that too rich for you? Guys? IRV Smith almost 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:01.439 made it to you there, and that was to me 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.240 a high second round kind of a guy. Right, all right, 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.960 I know that drafts are about three years and not one, 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.920 but I'm going to break that golden rule and say, 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.600 what's the tight end doing on this team in twenty nineteen? 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.280 Fair question? The thing that you you just don't trust 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:19.119 the coaches. No, you don't trust the coaches to use 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.200 the second round tight end. That's that's your issue. Right? 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.119 Is he taking Jason Witten off the field? Probably not? 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.840 Is he gonna know more about the ins and outs 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:28.479 of the offense than the two guys that have been 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.080 here longer? Than that. With this way, you don't get 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.200 a draft to tight end at all with that attitude. Basically, yeah, 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:38.000 selling Dad, what if Hawkinson makes Hawkinson makes it, and 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.240 then we can talk, all right, Well, Smith, he's one 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:41.840 of the youngest players in this draft. He didn't turned 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.399 twenty one until like August. We drafted Jason Witten when 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:45.800 he was twenty one years old. You know what I 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.320 don't want to do in third round by the don't 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.280 want to be sitting in the press box in Gillette 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:55.000 Stadium in November writing a story about how IRV Smith 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:59.160 is inactive because they don't have the spare him. Instead, 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.040 instead he's going to the Patriots. You can be right 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.080 about fine, are you writing about how he had two 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:06.959 hundred yards? That's fine? But that just I know it 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.280 goes against the cardinal rule of drafting. But just worry 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.000 about that later when Jason Witten has retired, whether and 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.359 Hale maybe he'll play another year, but like, just stop, 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:19.000 just worry about that when the time. So if Jason 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.080 Witten was not on this team, you would be if 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.520 Jason Witten, yeah, he would be inclined to take Smith. 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:26.840 I'd be thrilled to do so. Okay, because I would 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.080 pencil him in. But they tell us that that he 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.480 that Jason Witten is not going to be a roadblock 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.280 to them drafting a tight end. So you don't believe 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.880 them in that. No, they like their answer. I don't 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.439 have it the quote written down verbatim, but like at 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.000 their pre draft press conference, like they were kind of like, yeah, 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.760 Jason Witten helped us alleviate some of that concern. Like 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.600 they feel fine about that right now. And you know what, 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.479 that's cool because next year Jarwin will still be here, 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.639 Schultzi still be here. You could sign a free agent 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:54.240 to be your band aid if you want to, and 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:55.800 then you can use the first round pick on a 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.520 tight end. That's that's what I want to do. Who 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.520 were the next tight ends at I? Because that's what 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:02.560 we want? Yeah, whoever? Whoever did I? And when we 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.199 get now these two grab those guys. They have a 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.440 good idea. Who about those tight ends? Okay, we're at 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.080 fifty fifty seven Philadelphia to pick before Okay, the Philadelphia 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.000 Eagles are on the client. This is always in. Philadelphia 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.280 has had two picks, right. There's there's teams who had 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.920 multiple picks in front of Dallas. The Houston Texans have 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.199 multiple picks Philly, and Philly has multiple picks. Here at 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:27.520 fifty seven, they're going Joe one, Williams corner another. Yea, 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.600 they say, I just I don't want Brian to be happy. 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.960 That's pretty much it. Okay, Yeah, Brian's just too obsessed 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.359 with this guy. He went at fifty seven to Philadelphia 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.240 one pick ahead. How is that? How is that? Because 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.400 I was gonna I was gonna fight for him at 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.200 fifty eight when it got there, I was gonna ask, 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.919 why are we not drafting him too? Honestly, I would 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:50.800 I would do that for whatever it's w Would you 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.200 be in for Williams at fifty eight? Okay, we're gonna 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.520 have to go to the other name. We're about to 0:24:56.560 --> 0:25:00.359 have a disc likely, I would say, no, Okay, I 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.439 don't I know the answer to this question. But you 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.280 wanted that attorney. You wanted that long tall corner from Houston, 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:11.040 who I didn't know. He didn't Okay, So you have 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:15.240 something against the long tall corners. Uh. Not, necessarily, It 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.320 depends on who they are. The long tall corner like 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.040 over six four, how many of those are in the league? 0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.520 Getting good one not many sure is that it? And 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.280 even he I think he was six zo two, like 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.480 seven or something. He ran four or five five though 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.919 the same as what Williams run. Would this be the 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.159 first six four it's ever been good? I don't know 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.760 if Browner was six four, but he was pretty You 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:37.960 might have been six three Joe one six h three five, 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.360 so he's pretty close. He just looks like a man 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.320 out there playing. Saw that and then you say that, 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.800 You say the Georgia game, and I'll go, okay, everybody's 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.600 had one game with a The Georgia Game shows exactly 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.800 why you like him, exactly why he should scare you 0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:53.800 because he got beat in that game. But there are 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.240 also plays where he made some plays. So he's a 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.520 guy that There's gonna be ups and downs. It's gonna 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.800 be a roller coaster with Joe one william Once a 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.840 receiver gains a step, it's over, but he doesn't let 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:06.720 you get off the line. If he if he wins 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.680 in press and his jam technique is right, he will win. 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.760 It's a big if. I think we have gone way 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.639 too far with corners. We think corners got to be 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.040 six foot three, while we now have receivers that are 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.680 now six foot they're not six four anymore. We're done 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.440 chasing after every six foot four receiver. We're not draft 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.760 all the separators, but our corners are going to be 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:33.680 out here to fight Plexico Buris. Yeah, yeah, thanks. It's 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.879 usually how the NFL works. The offenses do something, the 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.439 defense is trying to catch up, and a lot of defense. 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.520 Let's see if your mind changes now with the guys 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:42.960 that we're going to have on our board, because we're 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.439 on the clock now right, we're on the clock, us 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.200 bunting make it no, no, he way gone early. Yeah. 0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.320 Really here at fifty eight, and we're taking into consideration 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:58.240 who the cowboys who they like realistic possibilities here, it's 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:02.080 looking like two players really ending out. Tristan Hill, defensive 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:06.439 tackle from UCF N Ferguson are stiff pass rusher from 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:14.040 Louisiana Tech. Okay, pass who's calling to somebody? Okay, we 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:15.560 gotta stand in there and make a pick. We gotta 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.919 call somebody. No, we gotta stand in there and make 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.840 a pick. Oh, it's so rich for both of them. See, 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.560 this is what happens. Though. We were talking about moving Yeah, 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.480 I mean we're we were we were dying because we 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.240 didn't want to give up a third round pick me. 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:30.639 And then all of a sudden, now this is what 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.639 you're you're you're looking at. I know, I know a 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.280 name that visited the Cowboys that hasn't been drafted. Please 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:40.960 save me Debo. Oh it's Debo available, tebos available. I 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:42.800 would run it available, I'd run it in. I don't 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:47.439 think the Cowboys would. I am the king of the 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.760 drum beaters for Debo. That's why I brought it up. 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.080 But I just think you're crazy to intentionally leave the 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.400 best player on your board. And maybe he's not for them, 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.520 but for me. That wouldn't be close between those three. 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.920 But when I pull them Okay, if we're talking about 0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.840 them though, that's we're talking about this. So this mock draft, 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.600 I don't have to actually put my name on it 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.119 like Jeff did this. It's this what the Cowboys would do. 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.760 This is what this is what this is. Okay, we 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.880 just got wiped out. We just got wiped out. I'm celebrating. 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.359 I got Debot. I had the best raft. Okay, you 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.760 were going into this DRAFTS fifty eight all the way 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:24.600 thinking about Debo. I'm dreaming of him absolutely deaf for 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.000 wide receivers. Is embarrassing it well, good route running, tough, 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:33.000 surehanded wide receivers. Yes, watch Baker up. Yeah, it's yeah, Okay, 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.720 I'm with you. I I would love it. I don't 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.240 I really. I'll be showing they're not taking a wide 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.520 receiver at fifty eight, I'll be shocked if it's anything 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.680 other than a defender. They're holding out hope for a 0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:46.160 safety and they will settle for a defensive line. Okay, 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.320 that can break again if you want. Yeah, well you 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:49.760 get yeah, I mean you get steal it if you 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.560 want to. For bringing a reason to the table. But okay, 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.560 so we're we're not going to take a wide receiver 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.880 because our three starters, we feel like, are pretty intrenched. 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.160 But we will take like I think where this is 0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.400 gonna leads to us taking Jay when Ferguson to go 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.960 back up DeMarcus Lawrence and Robert Quinn. We're gonna intentionally 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.200 take an inferior player so that he can take twenty 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.560 percent of the steps. What's wrong with what's wrong with Hills? 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.920 Gonna say, Triston Hill, He's right there? Do you trust 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.600 you trust Collins? No? Okay, you ask me right now, 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.920 who the pick will be for the Cowboys in you know, 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.800 seventy two hours. I think it'll be Tristan Hill. I 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.720 think he is the most real. Wasn't hated at least 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.000 I'm the second round. He's a good player. I wouldn't 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.920 hate it, No, I would hate leaving a better player 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.440 on the board. Like for me, Triston Hill would probably 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.120 be a top sixty five player and Deebo Samuel will 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.479 be a top thirty five player. Okay, so to me, 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.160 that's a terrible pick, but that's my ranking of players 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.760 right leaving future offensive rookie of the you're Ebo Samuel 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.000 out of it. Let's okay, let's if we're going to 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.160 assume that Ferguson and Hill are two realistic options, who 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.560 will be there? Break that? Break that choice down for me, 0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.160 like I got I got one Ferguson at sixty six 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.800 on my board, a top one hundred. Honestly, you got him, 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.560 you got him stack, I got him touch. I mean, 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.520 so forget how you got him graded. But at fifty 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.920 eight you should have ten twelve better players. Tell me 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.040 what they're gonna do? Oh, I mean, I yeah, I mean, 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:16.960 I'm just talking about what they I mean, I'm talking 0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.480 about what they would do, you know, and they'll tell 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.920 us on They'll tell us on Friday Night that they 0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.880 had Ferguson ranked thirty fifth. So I don't even worry 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.960 about that. Yeah, tell me what they would do for 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.960 the Cowboys? What What would Jayleen Ferguson do? What would 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:34.840 Tristan Hill? Do? You got that one, scout? Jayleen Ferguson's 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.120 gonna be competing against Dorn's Armstrong, Taco Charlton, and Tyrone 0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.920 Crawford to just get on the field right as a rookie, 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.520 and Triston Hill will rotate with Mollie Collins at the three. 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.000 So you're telling me Triston Hill has a bigger chance 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.320 to make an impact right away. That's right, I think. 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.280 I think so. Yeah, even though he's a young player 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.720 who didn't start last year because he buttered heads with 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.600 the coaches. That's why you bring in a guy like 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.920 this here and there here and talk about alcohol there 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.280 and two stuff like that. There's a lot of talk 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.680 about just being a young guy. Sounds like me and 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.080 Alan high school in two thousand and two. Sounds like 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.600 right now, sitting on this set, problem with coaches anymore. 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.960 He's he's a young guy who just he's got some 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.920 immature tendencies and everything that comes with that, you know, 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.200 on and off the field. And so how does that 0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.240 play in this locker room? You know? Is that something 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.480 you have to worry about? Is is this locker rooms 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.280 and the coaching staff set up that you can take 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.120 a guy like that under your wing and who will 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.680 perform for you? I think it is in a lot 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.520 of ways. Um, Tristan Hill for me is my ninety 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:37.120 first player. Not as high as others, yeah, but so 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:42.360 much with his next level projection is potential because there's 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.120 a lot of flash on his tape, the effort outstanding. 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.960 The guy's got a great motor consistency up and down again. 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.960 A guy that A big part of why I have 0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.560 him ranked the way I do is he didn't start 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.800 because he couldn't get along with the coaches. That that 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.360 bothers me. So you you read flagged him more because 0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.720 the ranking because of the coaching or we're well, yeah, 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:02.400 if I do, I could trust them one hundred percent, 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.120 you know, be you talking about football character, he'd be 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.040 high on my boy, He's not making me feel any better, 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.320 is he well, no, you've lost all our guys and 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.840 now you won't let me take the good one. Okay, 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.680 we're in a weird spot here. If we draft Ferguson, 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:20.000 could we move Tyrone Crawford back inside and maybe you 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.640 address your defensive tackle problem that way? All right? Is 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.280 he not good enough to be worth there's a better 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:30.680 NFL three technique today, Tyrone Crawford or Tristan Hill. We've 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.680 seen Crawford question. Because if the answer is Crawford, then 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.000 the answer to his question is yes, we could totally 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.040 do it if you're gonna bring in an end and 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.040 then it's just which one's the better player because we 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.400 can make it work either way. It's tough man, and 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.719 that's like, maybe these aren't the two names, but this 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:50.880 is the scenario that's going to face them. Is like 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.680 making the best out of unideal circumstance. Did they have 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.800 one of us in their dave? They do somebody in 0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.280 They're representing the crowd. As hard as you've been, as 0:32:58.280 --> 0:32:59.880 hard as you've been trying. They're not gonna let you 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.640 no WI room. Well, not us us, but will someone 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.520 in that room Brian fight for a receiver if he's 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.520 the highest graded player. They're just not going to do it. 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.880 I think it was a very possible scenario where on 0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.680 their board they've got those guys ranked similar talking about 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.200 d both on some of the receivers, talking about the 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.680 defensive linemen, we're talking about Jalen Fergus and Triston Hill, 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.040 So they see those as equal. It's not one being 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.960 clearly better than the others. They're equal. And for this team, 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.360 they need defensive line more than they need receiver right now. 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.240 And that's why I think they'd go with one of 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.440 these two defensive linemen we're talking about over the receiver 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:36.680 best available player with me, right right, Yeah, I need 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.560 another good receiver, and I know you do, all right, 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.720 What's what about the situation. I think they need to 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.800 tackle more than they need the end because I think 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:45.959 they're gonna leave Crawford a defensive end, and I think 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.080 they're gonna ask I think they're gonna ask Armstrong to play. 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.600 I think they want Tacco to try and develop, you know, 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.080 so to me, I'm looking for a backup three technique 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.120 under tackle. Turn in the card. Triston Hill. Triston Hill, 0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.720 defensive tackle from Central Florida, will be our pick there, 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.480 Vinah is walking off the set. That's cool. I got 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.480 a receiver for ninety. You have to prepare yourself for 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.680 these types of situations. This is when you're picking fifty 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.359 eighth in the draft. This is what you're looking at. Okay, 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:15.120 let's reevaluate where we're at though. Should we have gone 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.640 up should we have gone up here? Or do you 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.239 feel good enough about the player? Let's wait till see 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.919 then we'll have a better idea. Okay, Um, So, okay, 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.799 we'll get through the second round. Third round started the 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.120 third round. Jay Sternberger's off the board. A Mony Hooker 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.479 who's a safety that we safety from Iowa. We didn't 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.879 really talk about really good players because this team hasn't 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:36.759 shown any interest in a Mony hooker. Yeah, but you 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.640 know he's a guy too that he could play that 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.600 box safety though he could play down. He's physical, he 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:46.520 tackles well. A Mony hooker. Absolutely, Ronell Rent off the board. Okay, 0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:50.439 the kind of the raw which defensive tackle from Arizona State. 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.839 If we're great player all the way, if we're gonna 0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.480 make the case to draft Hill at fifty eight, like 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.200 that's the type of guy you were hoping to be 0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.799 there at ninety if you didn't draft the defensive tackle, right, 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.359 clearly that didn't happen, right, So, and this is where 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.200 that third round, especially as we're gonn see some of 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.160 these tight ends off the board. Dawson Knox Okay, off 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.480 the board? Wait is real? Okay? How did you like 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:15.080 Dawson Knox? I like his potential at fifty eight? No? 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.319 Thank you? No, no, we're we're we're moving down. Okay, 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.120 you didn't want drafting at fifty eight. We're moving down 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.600 the board here. Yeah, even if he made it to ninety, 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.520 I'd be hard pressed to think he would be my 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.759 best player. Okay, I'd love him at ninety. I just 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.440 think in that point. I think the Cowboys would love 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.759 him at ninety. That's kind of where I've been thinking, right, 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.239 don't Yeah, he's gone obviously here. So he literally has 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.799 not caught a touchdown since his junior year of high 0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:43.000 school of high school? What yeah, what, but he's gonna 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.920 dominate the league. He can run fast, Kittle right in 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:51.399 our guy from Guy been on trades, been on trades. Okay. 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.319 This is also where we see some running backs off 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:58.319 the board. Miles Sanders, Damien Harris gone gone, David Montgomery gone. Okay, 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.280 so we lost three running backs right there. David Montgomery, 0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.120 who the Cowboys are enamored with. Sanders is my second 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.560 best running back, by the way, Penn State. One of 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.600 your favorites linebacker Jermaine Pratt off the board. Pratt in 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.799 North Carolina State. If you haven't had a chance to 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.680 watch Pratt, watch him play. That guy's man. He is good. 0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.200 I like his toughness, like his body. He was a 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.839 converted safety, if I'm not mistaken, safety until his junior 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.839 years year and they moved him and they moved him 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:31.080 inside and physical. Love everything about him. Andy Pounds good player, 0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.879 right um. A couple of receivers off the board here, 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:39.320 Terry McLaurin, Riley Ridley. Another running back, Devin Singletary. Man. Okay, Singletary, 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.719 can't say something real quick about him? Where were we? 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.200 Where were we talking about Singletary before he had the 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.840 terrible workout. I had him in the third round and 0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.279 I didn't move him, not one bit, because I do 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.160 not care about running back workouts at all. Okay, but 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.040 you didn't like the tape enough, you didn't think he 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.120 was Probably I thought we maybe that brought us had 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.000 him in the top forty back before the Yeah, I 0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.560 thought he was more like more like a potentially a 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.319 second round type of Did you let the workout move him? 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:06.400 You know what I did? Yeah? Yeah, I think you 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.800 had to. I mean to me, but that's one of 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.719 those things here. I am fighting for holy Field. About that? 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.640 Fighting for holy Field? You like, fighting for Holyfield because 0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.120 of the tape is good? Yeah? Yeah? Like yeah, way 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.440 to just completely expose yourself. No, No, I love the 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.800 slowest running back in the world because of his tape, 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.360 and you just felt like I felt like Holyfield was 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.120 just a tougher back. I was willing to fight for 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.759 a guy that was more of a complete player. That's 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:37.880 why I mean, I'm okay. How about guys that could run, block, catch? Okay, 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.560 that's the thing with Singletary. You know, if you see 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.879 the catch part, I mean, the block part's not very good. 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:47.320 I think running back is the most trust the tape 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.880 position in football. It is I can burn the workout, 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.839 don't care. I've seen him run if you have. If 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.840 you have an average workout, I'm okay with that as 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:58.960 running back. If you have a below average workout, that's 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:00.880 where I start to care if you running back and 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.400 it's not just a forty the four to six six 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.239 stands out, but seven three, two three cone, the four 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.960 four or short shuttle. Those things bother me. And not 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:09.840 enough where you're gonna fallow on my top one hundred, 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.000 but enough that you know Darryl Henderson's ahead of him, 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.080 and uh, you know, making sure some of these other 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.080 running backs that I feel better about or ahead of 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.839 him in the rankings. Okay, uh so we lost him here. Yeah, 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:27.439 we have David long Corner from Michigan off the board. Okay, 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.399 what pick are we at right now? Eighty seven? Okay, 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.759 we're eighty seven. We're creeping up here. We're creeping up. 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.239 We're at ninety. We're not trading. Uh, we're not giving 0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.080 up picks to move two spots in the lake. You 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:38.520 just gonna sit in and let this thing go right, 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.000 all right, we're going let's go eighty eight. Michael Dieter 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.920 offensive Lineman, Wisconsin. Kind of an indifferent guy, you know 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.080 when you watch him play, kind of like you want 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.520 to like him, but you don't. Jeez. Yeah, basically, can 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.080 you get away he's indifferent or you're indifferent to him. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.200 I'm indifferent to him. Okay, Never, I was gonna say 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.120 the worst thing you can say about a player is 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.439 that he's indifferent. No, there's a there's a worst word 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.480 you can use them. That's true. I don't say it 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.879 on the air. I won't. All right, So the pick 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.560 before the Cowboys at eighty nine, this hurts a little bit. 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.600 Max Crosby, Eastern Michigan. Do you like Max Crosby better 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:18.000 than Jalen Ferguson? Oh? Wo yeah, say it with your chest. 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.640 Yet my dns are here to rush the passer. Did 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.880 you kind of think he was all arms? Lad? Jalen 0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.279 has the most sax in college. I'm talking about Max 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.440 Crosby because literally three cone, literally more sacks than anybody 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:33.440 in NCAA history. I am enamored with the Max Crosby. 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.160 I think the Cowboys are too. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.040 think the Cowboys are too And I think ninety is 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.400 where you would take a swing on it, because I 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.960 think at that point you say, okay, so even if 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.000 he's not a significant rotation player this year, if I 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.560 have a year of working with an NFL team to 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.440 get ready to play NFL football with that athleticism, in 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:55.120 that build. I got something in five years. I wouldn't 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:56.960 be surprised at all. If Max Crosby's a better player 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.000 than Jalen Ferguson, that shouldn't surprise anybody. We're six weeks. 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.719 In five years, he'll be on his second contract. So 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.040 we'll be talking you. I'll be at the lake. You 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:08.840 guys can talk about all that you keep saying, yell 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.600 and boiling crawfish. But think about this. In five years, 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.399 he's walking away after his first contract. You're getting back 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.480 a third round cop pick. There you go, he signed 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:21.880 h that's the way to do it. Okay, So we 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.960 lose Crosby. The Cowboys liked him. That could have been 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.560 a consideration. Now Dallas is on the clock. At Dallas, 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.680 what do we got? Okay? And this it's looking like 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:34.600 a lot of offensive players here, uh lining up on 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.239 this board. Top players that this team has shown interest in. 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.120 Treveon Williams crying back from Texas and m Yes McCole hardman, 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.600 wide receiver from Georgia. Hey we're doing uh kal A 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:49.320 wearing tight end San Diego State. That's good too. Uh 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:54.080 Anthony Nelson defensive end Iowa. Yeah, still there Jeff's happy 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.040 this time. Let's see if they're spaking a better player 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.640 at ninety This is great, So you do well, it 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:00.480 will stop you. Do you feel better? Are about this 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.520 list of guys? Did you do? Didn't you do? Yeah? 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:07.120 In what? In what way? I think McCole Hardman impacts 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.680 your team immediately? Wide receiver, a little short guy. Yeah, 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.360 I think he returns kickoffs and punts for you immediately 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.120 and when you want to put him on the field 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:16.839 in the slot. Sure, he's not going to be a 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.480 polished route runner yet, but teams are gonna know he's 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.839 out there. They're gonna account for him, or he's gonna 0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.919 be running real far, real fast. You just described Tavon Austin. Yeah, 0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.799 but I described one that's real cheap for the next 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.840 four years. Will he ever be better than what Tavon 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.120 Austin is right now? Yeah? I would bet on that. 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.560 Do you do you use Dave's tied end theory? Will 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:42.080 they use him the right way? Um? I hate to 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.799 see according to that though. You no, No, But I'm 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.279 just saying you're not running the team here. That's the 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:51.840 problem here. I am too, Anthony Brown, Michael Gallup, he 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.040 did fight for those guys. I I just I have 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.520 to think about the construct of what is actually gonna 0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.279 happen when I think about these Okay, so, is Helen 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.480 Moore going to have a big piece of control of 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.480 the offense or know who the hell knows? I think 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.759 if the answers, yes, I think he is. I think 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:11.920 Killen Moore is gonna have a big stick in this offense. 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.800 I really, I hope you're right. I really do. Yeah, 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.600 I mean, I mean, we get really Garrett Troll's last year. 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.160 I mean, let's Garrett wants to step in there and 0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.719 control the offense and what you might if it's your 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:26.719 last year. Yeah. I hate the word unpolished like I 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.319 hate it. I hate I hate using a premium pick 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.600 on a guy that you gotta teach. We're in the 0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.600 third round at the end of it, Dave pick ninety 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.600 is that premium pick. Top one hundred picks are supposed 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.759 to be immediate serious contributors, right, made me have to 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.120 do it. It's McCole Hardman. Is mcole Hardman going to like, 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.240 you're just drop dead shirt? He's gonna beat out basically 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.080 Tavon Austin or any other receiver who's been here for 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.400 three years. Yeah, because that's how draft picks work. They 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.120 get to win the camp battle, whether they win it 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:56.760 or not. Like what were the other names? Kle Warring? 0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.759 I love him, but that's developmental. What's he gonna do? 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:00.920 He's gonna watch people play football. He scares the hell 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:06.480 out of me. Anthony Nelson, Anthony Nelson, what's he gonna do? Us? 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.080 I think they're all good players. The Cowboys have a 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:11.719 good team. There's not a bunch of spots available for 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.919 the guy who's picked ninetieth to come play a bunch 0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.920 of snaps. Okay, good, didn't you didn't you set you 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.719 set me up for my logic for this? Then? Okay, Dan, 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.600 say the next name? Uh? What's the next name? The 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.359 first one you said? Tray Van Williams. Tray Beyond Williams 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.319 running back, running backs or later they're running backs? Not 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.319 when you only have one on your roster, they're not. 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.840 We'll find another one where we got more picks. I 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.359 don't know. I'll take the Notre Dame kid later, Dexter Williams. See, yeah, 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.799 he likes, he likes he's been cheerleading for that guy. 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.839 I like him. I like him too, just tape. He's 0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:48.120 a solid fourth runner for me. Yeah, we'll fill running 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.560 back later. It's not a problem. They're looking for a 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.720 guy who can do everything right off the bat, right, Yeah, 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.919 third down back, a third down back who could be 0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:00.319 a everything back if he was called upon any down back. 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.120 They sound kind of scared about not having Zeke in 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:04.880 the lineup, didn't you kind of? Don't you kind of 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.359 get that impression? Oh no, I got that impression a lot. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.360 Not that, and like I got the impression they like 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:13.239 Williams and Montgomery, and Montgomery's already gone. Yeah. You know, 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.600 if they had to pick a guy, he's pretty polished, right, 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.879 isn't he. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, he led the SEC 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.920 in rushing last year. Um, I mean he LSU defense, 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.600 the NC State defense that could do nothing against him. 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.600 You're picking at ninety, you're picking how many spots away 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.200 from them. Let me sit next to Jerry. I'll get 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.560 McCole Harman picked. That's a sexy pick. I would I 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:43.240 give me Williams over Hardman if that's the choice, and 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.320 I would consider I would consider wearing over even Hardman, 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.719 the San Diego State kid. Can we agree that I've 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.720 got all his third rounders, but I would go Hardman. 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.040 Can we agree that in a perfect world, neither of 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:58.160 these guys is gonna do a ton in their rookie See, yeah, 0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.080 a perfect world, Trayvind Williams doesn't do much at all, exactly, 0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:03.319 but it'd be great. But yeah, but it's easier to 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.000 put a rookie running back into these schemes and have 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.239 them have production. Well, you, thank you answered what I 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.680 was trying to set up, which is that Trevion Williams. 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.200 I look at him as a plug and play. I 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.080 do absolutely too, Nicole Hardman. I look at as a 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.440 project and a guy. And again, I know you want to. 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:26.600 You can't disassociate this. The coaches will trust Tavon Austin 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.520 more than they trust this third round rookie. Then why 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.600 did they bring in the Tavon clone If we're gonna 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.960 get to ninety and he's not in consideration? They brought 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.440 in Devo Williams too, and we passed Samuel Devo Williams. 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:43.680 I'm sorry, Deebo Samuel. They due diligence, I mean, and honestly, 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.279 they did a lot of due diligence on receivers. They 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.239 did not well, they do due diligence on everybody. Well, no, 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.400 but like the thirty list, how many receivers were on 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:55.160 There was like four or yeah, I think so, and 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:59.240 two running backs. Yeah, they're doing due diligence. And honestly, 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.080 I wouldn't be surprised if Hardman was the pick, just 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.960 based on everything we know. I think Trevion Williams does 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.400 more for your team and in the future. I honestly, 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.920 I think enough of Trevion Williams that he's a bargaining 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.080 chip in this contract negotiation with Zeke. Elliott too brought 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:20.920 in Samuel Hardman, John V. Johnson, h Emmanuel Halle where else. 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.319 We got john By Johnson from Toledo and that's it. 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:30.400 Let's take a vote. There's for him us here Harken okay, 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:35.600 brought us Williams all day, Williams all day. I would 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.920 have gone Anthony Nelson myself. Dan Dane hates the running 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.160 back pick. No, I'm going we just didn't want to tie. No. 0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:44.960 Two years ago when uh they went corner corner second 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.439 third round. Okay, I'm going defensive line, second third round. 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.000 I'm getting Tristan Hill, going Anthony Nelson. All of a sudden, 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.960 my defensive lines looking stacked. Anthony Nelson's a good player. 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.680 He's a good player. Absolutely. I can get a really 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:58.120 good three cone too, didn't he especially from his height? Yeah? Yeah, 0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.200 seven flat, give or take. Yeah. I would be perfectly 0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.400 happy to draft him. I'll be okay with him. But 0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:06.480 Dragon Williams is the pick running back who comes in 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.759 and is Zeke's backup from day one, which, yes, that's 0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:14.560 a rich pick, but it accomplishes, strictly speaking, your biggest 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.640 need on the roster. I know, I mean, it's not 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.239 because Zeke is so good, but you just you know, 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.960 you're saying, we're playing a game tomorrow. What do we 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.400 have to have? You need more running backs on your roster. 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.480 And he's a guy like he could be a backup, 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.240 he could be a third down back, he could carry 0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:30.720 the ball twenty times if Zeke is unavailable for whatever 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:33.799 reason I think, I mean, and again, it's basically a 0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:35.960 fourth round pick. That's how you have to view it. 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:38.680 Gotcham perfectly fine with that, I am too. All right, 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.440 let's reset here for a second. We are the Draft 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:45.120 show is here at Shakerton's. We're always as always, presented 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.520 by Miller Way We appreciate everybody it's here hanging out 0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:50.719 with us today and right now, what we're doing is 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.239 we're going through the Cowboys the seven round mock draft. 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.719 We're trying to get an idea of what players will 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.680 be there and have a discussion. So when we get 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:03.359 on the clock on really Friday and Saturday messing up. 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:07.279 I keep saying Thursday unless he trades back, in which 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:10.000 I don't think he'll do. You never know, bro, I 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.560 never know. I think about Thursday ratings, pretend they might 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:16.520 exactly exactly. But yes, again, we're so happy that Miller 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.239 lights along with us today and really happy that Shakerson 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.920 stepped up as well. Okay, now we're moving this thing on. 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.000 Now we're moving into the fourth round. We've got two picks, right, 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.359 We've got two picks here. We got to think about, well, again, 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:31.239 we didn't move either one of these picks because we're 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.200 seeing who what players we feel like we have. They've 0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:38.799 put out earlier that there's need if you look into 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.760 the future contracts that are coming up depth all those issues. 0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.799 So we've we've saved these two picks and now we 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.359 need to find a way to make him. So let's 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:48.960 go through it right now, Dane. These are gonna be 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:53.959 picks four one twenty nine and four one thirty seven, 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.160 so they're really right there behind each other. The one 0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:01.480 you're one up, it's eight to one thirties six. Yeah, 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.200 is that what it is? Yes? I mean they're late 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:08.279 day and they're late fourth round picks. Okay, my bad one, Okay, 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.120 my bad one twenty eight, one thirty six, Okay, you 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:11.880 got it. Go ahead. So this is where and we 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.200 won't go through all the fourth round picks, but we 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.719 talked about running back at ninety. If we don't go 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.080 running back at ninety, that's a direction we go on 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.880 Day three. Here in the fourth round, two picks before 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.279 one twenty eight off the board, rich Well Armstead and 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:27.560 Dexter Williams uh did not make it to one twenty eight. Okay, 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.520 so we lost your guy, Dexter Williams. It's clearly a 0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.719 fantasy land. He was gonna make it till we picked 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:36.560 it back, and he wanted to prove a point o kiddy, Dan, 0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:38.880 Dane can manipulate boards, but I don't. I don't know 0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:40.759 if you manipulated it that they're going by guy on 0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:44.200 purpose jerk one twenty eight, and again, this is what 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:48.680 we think they are gonna do. Realistic, realistically speaking, one 0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:52.640 twenty eight comes up. We've gone what we've gone defensive tackle, 0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:54.960 a three technique, we've gone running back here in one 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.520 twenty eight. So we're looking at what we're looking at. Corner, corner, 0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:04.040 we're looking at safety, We're looking at possibly receiver, offensive line, depth, linebacker. 0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.880 We're pretty open. Yeah, yeah at this point, are you're 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.840 gonna find a safety that you have any faith? Is 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:17.080 an upgrade from the Jeff Heath George I Loca Camp battle. Well, 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.719 because you'd like to if you could, well, yeah, yeah, 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.080 you definitely like to. But with most of these guys 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:24.879 off the board, with my top ten safeties are off 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:28.680 the board, first six safeties were offed or yeah, first 0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.240 six safeties were off the board in the second round, 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.680 and then we lost the money Hooker, we lost Mike Edwards, 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:37.040 we lost malt Gant. So here we go outside the 0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:40.080 top ten safeties in the draft. The one guy that 0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:42.279 stands out as Ghari willis for Michigan State who they 0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:45.520 brought in, and I worry about his range. I worry 0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:47.319 about him holding up if you ask him to cover 0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.480 but again, this team brought him in. This team wants 0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.600 more of that box safety. A guy is gonna come 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:54.799 down and hit you. He has that, he has the 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.760 intangibles that fits perfectly with what they want. Ghari Willis 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:02.239 from Michigan State is interesting name here, Jeff, Do you 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:08.959 like Willis at this spot at four when we say four? Don't? 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.160 I could be wrong. I don't think he's better than 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:17.400 either one of what you have? Okay, that does I 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.239 mean based on everything I know that does sound a 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.600 little bit rich, But again, I mean you have to 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:28.680 consider the team's evaluations, trump ours right, and for what 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:30.560 else is available on the board? Who I mean, who 0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.000 else is? Who else is available? Dan? If we want 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.759 to go we haven't addressed defensive end. We could go 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:43.759 John Komitski from Oh, Bounce House. Yeah, you're way too 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:47.200 excited about a guy from Charles that was the Bounce House, right, Yeah? Well, 0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:53.239 actually it's Alie Moore Pett from House Charleston built their 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.000 neighbor there's in the neighborhood. There's more people listening to 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.400 this show than have ever watched him play football. Okay, 0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:00.600 well those people think for Shawn Gary, he's gonna go 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:05.279 in the top fifteen because he's so maybe not. This 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.319 guy is the budget version. He's two eighty and he's 0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:09.759 a heck of an athlete. He is a heck of 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:11.640 an and you see what you turn him into. Okay, 0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:17.359 take a shot. I've cast my vote. That's a at 0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:20.800 this point. Now, okay, we'll talk. Okay, we'll then describe 0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:24.080 give me, give me the thumbnail on Kamensky. Then Kimiski's 0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:26.680 a high school quarterback who you know, he knew he 0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:28.480 was not going to be a quarterback in college. He's 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:30.440 kind of the best athlete out there. And he was 0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.160 a big guy, only two hundred and ten pounds when 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:36.080 he went to Charleston on a partial scholarship Division two. 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.239 They moved into defensive end and he kind of blossomed. 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.080 He's up to two eighty six, a guy who is 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.200 a terrific athlete at two eighty six, four six nine 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:48.480 in the forty one six seven ten yards split seven 0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:52.120 oh three three cones, terrific for him. So this is 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:55.000 a guy that's talking about the traits uh six five, 0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.040 two eighty six, thirty three and a half inch arms, 0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:03.280 flashes violence in his hands, competes the tape wasn't really strong, 0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.480 but it was. You know, when you watch a guy 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:08.880 in Division two, you expect to just dominate the competition. 0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.120 I don't think we saw that. But again, when you 0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:12.960 factor in the traits and what you can try to 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.960 mold someone into, that's what you get with Commenska. Really 0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.720 balanced athlete can help you as a rundefender. It's getting 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.160 need some time as a pass rusher. But for this team, 0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.439 the fourth round, the late fourth round, I think that's 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:25.880 what you're buying. What is going on with this team 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.880 this Since Will McClay took over the Cowboys draft, they 0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:32.560 have been the king of the big school prospect and 0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:35.759 true the pass rushers that they are enamored with in 0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:42.400 twenty nineteen went to Louisiana Tech, Eastern Michigan, Central Florida, 0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:46.759 and Charleston. Probably because of where you're picking. If you 0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.280 wanted to have a guy who has good production, good measurables, 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:50.640 and played at a big school, you don't get to 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:52.360 have him at fifty eight most likely. That is a 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:55.359 very good point. And even in that case, like maybe 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.080 can I drop a world where chasing Winovich makes fifty 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.400 eight sure possible? And I don't even know if the 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.200 Cowboys would pick him. A lot of people don't like 0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.560 Chase Winovich. I do. I know. I'm a big fan, 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.040 and I don't think he makes fifty eight. Yeah, you 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.120 think he goes well before that, right? I do? He 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.880 could go easily. I mean he nothing nowhere in the 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:15.640 second round or third round. Was surprised me with Chase 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.319 Winovich because opinions are all over the map on him. Um, 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:20.560 I think you know you love the effort that he gives. 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.319 He says, okay, athlete, not a great athlete, not a 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:27.440 bad athlete, but he's he's a good athlete. The some 0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.279 of the character stuff is a worry with him. He 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.960 rubbed some people the wrong way, that kind of thing, 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.359 and that's gonna drop him. Not everyone's gonna like him 0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:37.680 because of that, But anywhere in the second and third round, 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.600 because he plays the right position. Is it true he 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.400 came back his senior year to Michigan to be a 0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:45.160 captain and beat Ohio State and all that, and none 0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:47.640 of that, None of that happened. It was not voted 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.640 as senior captain. I've talked to former teammates who are 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.480 not Chase Winovich fans. So, and that's something that scouts 0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:57.719 are well aware of and that plays in a war room. 0:54:57.840 --> 0:54:59.920 You know, when you're trying to stack your board and 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:01.719 figure out to order, these guys are gonna come off 0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:05.520 the board. That's the kind of stuff that can win battles. Uh, 0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.560 you know, anecdotes like that. Getting back to the matter 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:12.360 at hand, I'm I'm curious. I'm curious about this, Okay, 0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:17.240 Cary willis Michigan State's safety. He doesn't improve your safety 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:20.400 position like right away, Like he ain't. He's not starting 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:25.719 over Iloka or Heath probably, but and like I mean, 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.719 obviously you want your picks to be home runs. But 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.760 I'm again going back to just the nuts and bolts 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:35.280 of roster building. Cavon Frazier's in a contract year, Jeff 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.680 Heath is in a contract year. Like, do you draft 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:40.920 this guy simply in the name of having a body 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:43.120 and worry about the fact that he might not ever 0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:45.600 go to a Pro Bowl for you later or But 0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.400 at the same time, even though we went to a 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:51.000 small school, if Kaminski's got these amazing traits that y'all 0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:53.319 are talking about, I love the idea of drafting a 0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:56.160 guy like that late in the fourth round, because I mean, 0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:59.319 what else are you looking at in that range? So 0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:04.040 I'm wondering Boomer bust player verse, a guy who could 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.279 be your Cavon Frasier for the next four years, And like, 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:09.520 don't kid yourself. Those players are important too. Cavon's had 0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:11.160 a role on this team every year of his career, 0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:12.920 and if you don't bring him back next year, you 0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:16.000 got to replace that production somewhere. Let's factor it like this. 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.440 We have a pick here and eat picks in the 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:22.000 fourth round, So sure take those are the two players 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.480 are talking about, Khari Willis and John Kimiski. Let's take 0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:26.399 the player that we don't think is gonna make it 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.799 to one thirty six. Would take him at one twenty 0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:31.239 eight and hope the other guy falls, so is Kaminski. 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.719 You know, the the upside pick, the traits pick, is 0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:35.759 that the guy that we're thinking might not make it 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.080 to one thirty six. Yeah, I think that to me, 0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:43.040 I have problems with Kimensky. I just didn't see a 0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:45.600 guy that dominate at that level. You know. I saw 0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.200 a guy that played tall and you know, yeah, you 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.279 could play him. He's got the flexibility. You know, we 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.560 I talked about and when with the first mock drafts 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.680 we did for our magazine, I did. I picked Zach 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:58.680 Allen because I felt like Zach Allen could play defensive 0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:01.120 end and he could play defensive tack. I feel like 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:04.239 John Komiskey could probably do the same thing, but I 0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:06.120 don't think he could do it on the level that 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.600 I want him to do that out right, Yeah, I 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:12.440 worry about again. I'm watching you know, there still a 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.200 line from KT I'm watching a butcher block him, you know, 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.560 and uh, you know, when I play in the IVY 0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:19.880 League gets a pharmacist and all that. But yeah, I'm 0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:23.160 I mean, Shephard College or University in Finley, and these 0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:26.480 guys are blocking him, and I'm kind of like, man, 0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.640 why why why are everybody liking this guy so much? 0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:32.280 I would have a problem with this pick. I would 0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:35.600 have to go with the consensus of the room because 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.400 I am not a fan of this guy. I Wis. 0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:40.280 I like Willis. I would if you gave me a 0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.040 choice between him and Willis, I'd take Willis. But I 0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:46.240 understand what you know, Jeff was. I mean, he's lost 0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:50.200 guys earlier. You know, we're we're kind of you know, 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:53.560 talking about guys that that you know, we liked and 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:55.560 we've taken, but this would be a guy that I 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:59.400 wouldn't be happy with. But if three scouts told me 0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.760 or the room told me, no, this guy's a player, 0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:05.800 I would allow that to happen. Okay, But going back 0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:07.480 to what I said about who's gonna make it the 0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:12.240 one thirty six? Do we this this this guy? We 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.840 got him at one, twenty four, twenty eight. He is 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.280 probably gonna go into third round. And this is this 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:21.200 is and don't be surprised when you're watching the draft 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:23.720 and all of a sudden and I'm like, okay, the 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:29.600 Buccaneers are on the clock and three ninety five to 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:32.160 the Buccaneers, and we're all gonna look at each other 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:35.280 and go, okay, just mark that on is moving on? 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:37.520 You know, happen about I think the league sees this 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.200 guy differently than me, and I think you guys might 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:43.560 be right about the player, But man, I have a 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.439 problem with a guy that doesn't dominate at that level. 0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:49.600 You're not wrong, that is that is a big issue 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:52.240 for me. And if we're gonna take that guy, I'm 0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:56.200 gonna let I'm gonna let somebody else be the hero here, Jeff, 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.160 We've been upsetting you all night. So what do you 0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:01.800 want to do? Take Charleston, there's commits, right, Okay, But 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:06.600 I don't know if Willis makes the team. I mean, no, 0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:10.760 are you cutting cav On Frasier, Georgia A. Loca? You're 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:14.040 not cutting Iloca unless you draft a guy like Thornhill. 0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.840 All the safety talk is really about cave On Frasier, 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.080 by the way, guys, right exactly you think about it? No? 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:22.160 For sure? Well, and but can't George Iloka take his spot? 0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:25.720 He might not purely from again, Georgia, I looka is 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:27.880 not the most nimble guy you've ever seen. He could 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:30.760 tackle all day. Also, carry Willis is the nimble guy. 0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:33.600 George Iloca is not playing. Carry Willis has got at 0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:35.680 least some range. I don't know if Georgia A. Looca 0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.760 has a lot of range range to do what like? 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:41.440 You wouldn't want him covering? He plays like as a 0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:44.880 free safety. I mean you see, yeah, he comes forward, 0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:48.000 all right. They brought him in. They brought him in. 0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:50.880 Let's not unurely the Boston college kid that they brought 0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:55.800 in the other Harris, Yeah, Will Harris, how'd you like 0:59:55.840 --> 1:00:00.000 Will Harris. You remember Will harder than Willis. Okay, listen, 1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:04.360 let's all just agree. If pick fifty eight isn't the safety, 1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:08.080 then the safety position is not going to significantly be better. 1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:10.720 There's no there's no reason to draft one then, right, 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:12.560 is that what you're saying. No, that's not what I'm saying. 1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:14.800 I'm just saying, like, give up on that dream. Like 1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:16.880 if they don't, if they don't get a Rap or 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:19.920 an Abram or a thorn Hill, then it's probably not 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:22.560 going to substantially improve this season. If I had to 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:24.200 get hey, we need to trade up, then maybe should 1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:26.440 Maybe I shouldn't have been a coward. We do need 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:28.680 to go back and get brave. Yeah, I rewind this 1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:31.480 whole Now you have. Now you have Zeke's all around 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:33.760 badass backup in his place. Yeah. I mean I cut 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:35.640 you off earlier. But now that we know what ninety is, 1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:38.800 it's you know, are Tristan Hill and trey Vin Williams. 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:42.080 That's not a bad draft one of these safeties. Yeah, 1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:45.760 would have I'd rather have Rap. I think I would too. 1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:48.560 But could sell Could I sell you? Okay? So can 1:00:48.600 --> 1:00:51.200 I sell you? Well? Again? All right? So you have 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:58.440 Taylor rap and then or well, no, that Taylor rap 1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:02.520 and then Justice Hill or Dexter Williams. Yeah, I would 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:05.480 take Yeah, Yeah, rapping Dexter Williams makes me feel a 1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:07.680 lot better than what we ended up with. I could 1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:11.000 live with that. I could live with that. I feel fine. 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:16.439 We're all anti trading now, we're all on that. It's 1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:20.919 because I don't like John Kimiski. That's why. No, I'm 1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.200 fine with what we've done. We all got guys we 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:25.040 don't like. That's the way it's gonna go. We don't 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.240 all get our guys. When you don't have a first 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:29.040 round pick and you're picking at the end of the round, 1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:31.720 you're probably not going to be that thrilled unless something crazy. 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:35.000 Let's six, Well who did we take on one twenty eight? 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:37.760 John Kimsky? Yeah, all right, Well car Harry Willis is 1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:42.120 still there at one thirty six. So who else we got? Uh? 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:47.800 Bobbio Karki the linebacker that's from Stanford. Yea Dylan Mitchell 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:54.120 wide receiver from Oregon. Hey, oh that every wide receiver. 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:57.080 He's lying. He's lit up about every wide receiver we've 1:01:57.120 --> 1:01:59.960 talked about. Yeah, I could I would have taken three. 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:01.680 Are you buy that we'll be running six? Why why 1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:03.080 do you? Yeah, Like, why do you want a wide 1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:05.919 receiver so bad? Uh? Because they're good? Randall CoP's gonna 1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:08.720 be here for one year. Then I want Deebo Samuel. 1:02:08.720 --> 1:02:11.120 I'm about to pay the quarterback thirty million dollars a year, 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:12.680 and I need to give him all the weapons in 1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:15.080 the world if I want him to be able good quarterbacks. 1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:18.800 You're you're preaching to the choir. No, well, it's funny. 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:21.480 I would take a receiver who can make a difference 1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:24.160 right away. But like, keep these projects away from me. 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:25.880 It's not a project. It's just a waiting gay which 1:02:25.880 --> 1:02:27.680 you get away to year. That's what you call a 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:29.840 project because they're not ready right away. No, no, no, 1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:32.040 they're ready. There's just something in their way. Were you 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:37.040 thinking about Williste thirty six? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's 1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:38.880 I think that's where this team is going to be 1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:40.960 looking at him. I don't know if they trust him 1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:45.440 getting the one five, one sixty five. Um Cole Holcomb, 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:47.800 the linebacker of the North Carolina is out there. See 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:49.800 this is this is the fun part for me. Like, 1:02:49.880 --> 1:02:52.640 I mean, I'm part of this and I watch and 1:02:52.760 --> 1:02:55.680 pay attention. But I haven't watched five hundred players the 1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:57.960 way that y'all have. And now, on the eve of 1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:01.360 the draft, y'all have to reconcile the fact that the 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.480 team's board is not the same as your board, you know, 1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:08.960 I mean, and that's a that's a frustrating Hey, Taco Charlton, right, 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:12.400 I mean exactly, We're back in that conversation, which we 1:03:12.520 --> 1:03:14.280 can do all the preparation we want, but at the 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:16.960 end of the day, they've got their own. So do 1:03:17.080 --> 1:03:18.840 we just give them Willis here because we think it's 1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:21.800 realistic because I have Hulcomb ahead of Willis, and I 1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:25.520 don't like hulkm either. I have Willis in the six 1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:27.840 or seventh rows. If you look at if you look 1:03:27.880 --> 1:03:30.280 at the safeties that they visited, if you want to 1:03:30.320 --> 1:03:34.120 play this game, it's either Harris or Willis at this point, 1:03:34.600 --> 1:03:38.000 whoever you have rated better, it's likely I mean, if 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:40.160 you whoever you feel better about it. Again, this is 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:43.200 us trying to project what they might do, and you're 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:46.600 watching the same tape they are, So I mean, you 1:03:46.720 --> 1:03:49.880 have to figure out now Is And I me personally, 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.680 I would take Willis myself. I know that you don't 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:55.520 like that at all. But I didn't like Kaminski, so 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:58.160 that's I think Willis is the most realistic pick there, 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:00.400 to be honest, bring them on, Okay in terms of 1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:07.560 what this team is gonna do six Okay, have we 1:04:07.680 --> 1:04:11.760 picked all visits so far? I don't Trevan Williams. I 1:04:11.760 --> 1:04:15.880 don't think. Okay. Is he not a local guy either? No? No, okay, 1:04:15.880 --> 1:04:19.240 he's from Houston. I believe they don't stretch the boundary 1:04:19.320 --> 1:04:24.040 that far for Dallas, so so far, that's a good 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.200 that's a good point. Jeff Is and I say this 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:28.200 all the time, and I think it's smart, like you 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:30.120 want to circle in on the guys that they're interested in. 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:33.800 But every single year the draft never falls that way. 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:36.520 Like we're doing our best, but it just will not 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:39.320 work out this way. And if if three of the 1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:42.080 five or four of the five picks are thirty visits, 1:04:42.120 --> 1:04:45.880 I'll be pretty surprised. Especially it's usually two. You've done 1:04:45.880 --> 1:04:48.120 this study though before. Usually it's it one to two. 1:04:48.400 --> 1:04:51.000 The focus is in the top, like the focus is 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:53.120 in the Obviously they don't have a first round, but 1:04:53.240 --> 1:04:56.240 the focus is first, second, and usually even the third. 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:59.520 But again once you get down toward the sixties, seventies 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:02.360 and beyond, and you're at the mercy of the board. Okay, 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:05.360 just to reset here from Shakerton's again, the draft show 1:05:05.400 --> 1:05:09.120 presented by Miller lite Tristan Hill, who we selected at 1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:13.240 two fifty eight, the defensive tackle from Central Florida. At 1:05:13.400 --> 1:05:16.240 three ninety we went Trevion Williams, the running back from 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:20.280 Texas A and M At four one twenty eight we 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:25.000 went John Kaminsky, the defensive end from Charlestown, And at 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:29.480 four one thirty six we went Cary Willis, the safety 1:05:29.680 --> 1:05:32.800 from Michigan State. Okay, we don't have a sixth round pick, 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:37.480 Am I correct about that? Five one sixty five is 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:40.920 left and seven two forty one we've addressed. Seven two 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:43.480 forty one are the picks we have left. Now we've 1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:48.480 addressed pretty much all of the primary needs right, safety, 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:51.440 D tackle, running back D D and d end YEP 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:54.640 which d end maybe not a primary need, but that's okay. Okay, 1:05:54.680 --> 1:05:57.320 with two picks left, is there a position we have 1:05:57.440 --> 1:05:59.800 to get with those two picks, whether it be corner, 1:06:00.040 --> 1:06:05.280 whether it be receiver, linebacker. You got a receiver whisper guy, 1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:09.400 you'd probably like a corner. I would think with your 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:11.960 top four corners, the guys that are the most relevant, 1:06:12.000 --> 1:06:13.680 two are up after this year and the other two 1:06:13.720 --> 1:06:17.520 are up after the next year. That's that could be 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:20.040 a pretty big need if we have a slot guy, 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:22.280 I guess any receiver, because you could kind of move 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:24.520 them around. Sure, if there's a receiver, Yeah, I think 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:28.720 that works. I don't know if you're gonna find a 1:06:28.800 --> 1:06:32.080 tackle prospect you like this late, but I think that's relevant. Yeah, 1:06:32.200 --> 1:06:35.760 that's that's twenty twenties problem. Okay, we can fix that 1:06:35.840 --> 1:06:39.480 one later. Yeah. I like what you're talking about with 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:43.800 the corner though. I do like that. I mean, it's 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:46.160 eric can we get as we go down the board, 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:48.880 are we gonna tell me who we're gonna lose, because 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:53.000 that's gonna influence me which direction we're gonna go. Chris 1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:56.840 Westy the Kentucky corner, and we talked about another super 1:06:56.920 --> 1:07:00.560 tall one. Yeah, he literally is six four six four 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:02.920 and a half, but four three seven is the speed there. 1:07:03.000 --> 1:07:05.320 They went to Lexington to work him out as well. 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:09.600 Uh now four three five three five on the board 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:11.720 at six four and a half hundred ninety nine pounds 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:15.760 Jeff again, is there a is there a wide receiver 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:17.600 you like in that? Is there a wide receiver on 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:20.960 our board? And left? Who who's have you got anybody? 1:07:21.200 --> 1:07:27.480 At that point, um, we can go keeling. Okay, So 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:32.200 like renfro or is john V Johnson? John By Johnson 1:07:32.320 --> 1:07:36.720 was a guy they brought in run yeah, Clito, right, 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:41.480 this Senior Bowl guy Penny Hart available, No, he's gone. Okay, 1:07:43.560 --> 1:07:45.600 john bya really struck me as more of a seventh 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:49.120 round player. But yeah, at this point where at the 1:07:49.200 --> 1:07:51.200 mercy of the board. So we got to figure out 1:07:51.200 --> 1:07:53.160 who's available here and we can try and wait till 1:07:53.160 --> 1:07:56.240 the seventh round to get because this receiver, this receiver 1:07:56.360 --> 1:07:58.400 class is so deep that people are gonna be shocked 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:00.960 by some of the receivers they go undrafted in this 1:08:01.520 --> 1:08:03.920 I kind of thought that way last year when Wilson went, 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:07.280 When Dallas picked Wilson, Yeah, you know, I was the 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:11.320 state receiver. I was shocked by that whole thing. Right, Okay, 1:08:11.360 --> 1:08:13.720 don't kill me for asking. This is Dax Raymond gone? 1:08:15.040 --> 1:08:21.559 But sorry? Yes, at five one sixty four, one pick 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:28.760 ahead of the Cowboys to the Indianapolis Colts as a back. Yeah, 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:31.920 but who wants him? Jeff does. Jeff asked about him? 1:08:32.040 --> 1:08:34.000 I did, I mean, I got him in the fifth 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:37.680 He can run, but I can't trust him about the Uh. 1:08:38.080 --> 1:08:40.880 How about the Nebraska kid. There's a few of those, 1:08:41.200 --> 1:08:44.479 the running back Stanley Morgan. Yeah, I think that'd be 1:08:44.479 --> 1:08:47.200 a good pick. Now, he's he's not gonna light anybody 1:08:47.240 --> 1:08:49.719 out with speed. He's not a separation guy. But Stanley 1:08:49.760 --> 1:08:52.880 Morgan catches every ball throne his strong possession. I remember 1:08:52.920 --> 1:08:55.639 watching his tape thinking, my gosh, he doesn't drop the ball. Yep, 1:08:55.720 --> 1:08:58.080 he's still available to go there and fifth rone. That's 1:08:58.080 --> 1:09:00.160 the possibility. Do you feel good about you? There were 1:09:00.200 --> 1:09:02.280 a wide receiver whisper? Do you feel good about that? 1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:04.760 You feel good about Stanley Morgan coming in here? He 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:07.720 can't run a lick, and you might be like some 1:09:07.840 --> 1:09:09.479 of the guys you've got, I mean, will he did 1:09:09.800 --> 1:09:12.960 four or five? Three? Does he beat out? Because right 1:09:13.000 --> 1:09:17.160 now you've got to beat out Tavon Austin or Noah 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:23.599 Brown and Cedric Wilson. Do we feel like that's gonna happen? 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:27.960 That's to go, I guess, because you might end up 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:29.920 eighth on the depth chart and be a decent player 1:09:30.640 --> 1:09:33.200 if you're and that's I kind of That's the point 1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:34.760 I was trying to make earlier is if you're not 1:09:35.000 --> 1:09:40.800 drafting a clear badass, i'll deebo Samuel. Is it worth 1:09:41.000 --> 1:09:44.280 throwing another guy into that log jam? No? I mean personally, 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:46.599 I was just asking. I was trying to think of names. 1:09:46.640 --> 1:09:48.400 I was trying to get some names. Let me ask you. 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:51.800 This is sam a sample to tie in from Washington available. No, 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:55.479 he was gone, Okay, that dude's gonna go high, like 1:09:55.680 --> 1:09:57.800 higher than you think we like. We should have picked 1:09:57.880 --> 1:10:00.479 him at one thirty six or at one twenty. Yeah, 1:10:00.600 --> 1:10:05.479 it's Deontay Johnson available. No, he along gone, Okay, everyone 1:10:05.600 --> 1:10:08.680 likes Jontay Johnson. See now we're now we're we're in 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:11.280 a problem here. I think, well, no, I think it 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:13.040 comes down to, okay, do we want to go linebacker? 1:10:13.160 --> 1:10:15.439 Do we want to go corner? We do we go receiver? Um? 1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:20.120 What are our what are our corners? My preference is 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:22.600 probably corner. If I can find a guy that I 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:26.000 think is going to make the team, Mark Fields Clemson corner, 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:33.320 hamp Chievers, Derek Thomas from Baylor, that's ah, he's got 1:10:33.360 --> 1:10:37.120 the biggest wingspan of any corner in this draft. Can 1:10:37.160 --> 1:10:39.880 you talk about him a little bit? Then place former 1:10:39.920 --> 1:10:43.880 basketball guy who just had no offers, no interest out 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:46.240 of high school, had to go to the academy Milford 1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:49.800 Academy then ends up getting a like a partial of 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:54.360 walk on opportunity. It's at Temple. Uh please to transfer 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:56.679 from Temple. Then he came with the coach right well, 1:10:57.000 --> 1:10:59.479 and he played receiver. Then he moved to corner later on. 1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:01.719 So and then he moves to Baylor as a graduate 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:04.760 transfer plays this year from Matt Roulett Baylor, and he 1:11:04.880 --> 1:11:07.760 played well as a starting safety for Baylor. And he's tall, 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:10.080 he's long, and he can run. That's that's a good 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:14.080 mix right there. Two six two, seven six two and 1:11:14.120 --> 1:11:17.719 seven eighth four four four speed, The jumps are great, 1:11:17.960 --> 1:11:21.080 seven one eight three comes respectable for him. So at 1:11:21.120 --> 1:11:22.640 this point in the draft, I mean, that's that's the 1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:25.519 type of traits. That's that's a trades pick right there. 1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:28.080 That is total trades pick. He's an older guy. I mean, 1:11:28.120 --> 1:11:30.320 I think he's over twenty four. He's been around a 1:11:30.360 --> 1:11:32.720 little bit, so upside do worry about a little bit 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:35.639 about that. But Brian likes to tell me that Terrence 1:11:35.680 --> 1:11:38.439 Newman was old. So yeah, and Terence Newman is still playing. 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:41.879 I think, yeah, Terence is fifty three now, yeah, exactly, 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:44.800 still starting. Derek Thomas would not be a bad pick here. Um, 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:47.800 I like him over Westy. Okay, I'm with you on that. 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:50.400 I think Western. I'm not a fan of Westy at all. 1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:53.200 They only have six picks to work with, so who 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:55.240 knows if it works out for him. But I think 1:11:55.320 --> 1:11:58.400 they want to get Chris Richard a cornerback, just a 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:00.760 guy that he can kind of work with, work with 1:12:01.000 --> 1:12:03.840 and mold. And I mean, we'll see what happens with 1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:07.120 Byron Jones. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:10.599 he comes back Barron Jones. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I don't. 1:12:10.760 --> 1:12:12.640 And I mean it's a long shot to say a 1:12:12.720 --> 1:12:15.840 fifth round pick is gonna be your replacement for Byron Jones. 1:12:16.000 --> 1:12:18.400 But you could at least right to find that guy 1:12:18.439 --> 1:12:20.160 next year. Yeah, you're probably right. I think we're spending 1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:21.760 too much time on a fifth round pick. Let's go 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:25.679 Derrick Thomas. Derrick Thomas says the guy who's been watching 1:12:25.760 --> 1:12:27.720 tape of these guys since October. I'm just excited to 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:30.960 get the seventh round. There we go. Okay, we're seven. Okay, 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:34.879 so far again. Tristan Hill defensive tackle, Central Florida. Trevion 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:38.640 Williams running back Texas and NYM. John Kamitsky defensive end 1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:44.320 tackle h Charleston Cary Willis the safety from Michigan State. 1:12:44.520 --> 1:12:48.000 Derrek Thomas the cornerback from Baylor. So far, so we're 1:12:48.040 --> 1:12:54.679 in the seventh round, seven, two forty one. Right now, 1:12:54.880 --> 1:12:56.760 this is the point where this is where you draft 1:12:56.840 --> 1:12:59.240 somebody you don't want to fight for and free agency 1:12:59.720 --> 1:13:02.400 this is it. When you get to this point, you're thinking, Okay, 1:13:02.520 --> 1:13:04.960 who can we take that? We thought, oh, maybe this 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:07.960 guy can make it to free agency. Uh no, that's 1:13:08.000 --> 1:13:09.720 not the case. You go and get this guy now. 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:12.680 So let's think about who went direction we need to 1:13:12.720 --> 1:13:15.840 go in there? Day is our Arkansas linebacker gone green Law? 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:19.760 He's available. I heard his name on the radio today 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:24.080 by mister Stephen Jones. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yea. If 1:13:24.120 --> 1:13:28.040 his son scouting for him. Information like green Law. He's 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:34.000 just small, Yeah, he's just small. He's your ideal special teamer, right, 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:36.880 That's that's what you're getting. Yeah, and whatever he gives 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:38.720 you on defense just a plus. Like, if there's some 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:41.320 guy out there with really good traits you're gonna swing 1:13:41.400 --> 1:13:43.880 on instead, that's fine. But if watching him, the dude 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:47.439 is tenacious to him, is at Holloman right from Holcombe 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:50.640 holkm excuse me, Holm, Holcomb's gone, Holm's gone. Okay, so 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:53.599 so not having that sixth rounder showed there. So yeah, 1:13:53.640 --> 1:13:55.559 here in the seventh Drake green Law is a good name. 1:13:55.840 --> 1:13:58.040 Uh you know he's you say he's short. He's five 1:13:58.120 --> 1:14:00.680 eleven and a half four seventh three. Guy can't get 1:14:00.720 --> 1:14:03.960 off a block going forward. He'll give ground, but he 1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:07.040 will get off the block. He ain't gonna play defense anyway, sir, 1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:12.240 You never know, you have lots of things happen. Five 1:14:12.360 --> 1:14:14.439 eleven and a half, two thirty seven on that. My 1:14:14.520 --> 1:14:17.000 guy as a fighter, No, there's no question about. He's 1:14:17.000 --> 1:14:20.000 a physical player. I mean I like him. I like him. 1:14:20.000 --> 1:14:22.240 I think that we watch him play delivers a blow. 1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:24.960 And again, you know, first of all, we've talked about 1:14:24.960 --> 1:14:27.360 it already. This team loves the draft linebackers. It's like 1:14:27.439 --> 1:14:29.920 their favorite thing in the world. And on top of that, 1:14:30.200 --> 1:14:33.759 you know they they're stacked right now. But Joe Thomas 1:14:34.080 --> 1:14:38.559 contract year, Sean Lee contract year. Um, I believe Justin 1:14:38.640 --> 1:14:40.640 marks Lillar would only signed a one year deal. So 1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:43.040 I mean you're gonna have some turnover, right obviously, you 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:46.000 know Jalen and and vander Esh they're not going anywhere. 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:49.599 Your your starters are pretty intrenched. But it always afford 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:51.880 to upgrade the devil. And green Law was voted a 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:55.080 senior captain. Uh, you know, he's he's a guy that's 1:14:55.080 --> 1:14:57.479 battled through a lot of adversity within the foster care 1:14:57.560 --> 1:15:00.519 system things like that. So I think he's a guy 1:15:00.720 --> 1:15:03.240 that you're going to look at and say, yeah, got 1:15:03.280 --> 1:15:06.559 the right attitude. They've got some inside information at Arkansas. 1:15:06.960 --> 1:15:10.439 I think it makes sense. Okay, So Dre Greenlaw is 1:15:10.479 --> 1:15:13.519 going to be our pick from Arkansas. He's at pick seven, 1:15:14.000 --> 1:15:17.560 two forty one. He's a linebacker there, so that completes 1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:20.639 our mock draft. Six picks one offensive player, Yeah, six 1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:25.320 picks one offensive player like once again, Tristan Hill, defensive 1:15:25.360 --> 1:15:29.200 tackle from Central Florida, Trey Veon Williams, the running back 1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:32.639 from Texas A and m John Kamitski was the fourth 1:15:32.720 --> 1:15:35.519 round pick at one twenty eight. Cary Willis was the 1:15:35.600 --> 1:15:37.920 pick of the safety from Michigan State at one thirty 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:41.960 at four one thirty six, Derek Thomas, the cornerback from 1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:44.120 Baylor that we all seem to like, at five one 1:15:44.400 --> 1:15:49.760 sixty five, and then Drey Greenlaw, the linebacker five to 1:15:49.840 --> 1:15:53.000 eleven and a half linebacker from Arkansas at seven two 1:15:53.120 --> 1:15:54.920 forty one. We think he's gonna play quite a bit 1:15:54.960 --> 1:15:58.640 of special teams. Some inside information there for the Cowboys. 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:02.800 So all right, that would be our draft. Tristan Hill 1:16:02.840 --> 1:16:08.240 and Trayvion Williams or Taylor Rap Taylor Rap. Yeah, I 1:16:08.400 --> 1:16:10.160 go with a better player. I go Taylor Rapp and 1:16:10.200 --> 1:16:12.680 then sign and then somebody that's on the streets right now, 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:16.760 let's play. I let the tray beon Williams charge. I 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:21.120 will own that. But to play Devil's advocate, there's veteran 1:16:21.360 --> 1:16:23.519 running backs that are out there. Sure, t J Yelden 1:16:23.680 --> 1:16:28.479 is unsigned as far as hey, is it Gye healthy? 1:16:28.640 --> 1:16:31.160 I know he's a free agent. Yeah, I's still with 1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:34.280 that knee coming off the ACL So so what the 1:16:34.439 --> 1:16:36.679 What we learned from this though, is that we should 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:40.320 be willing if, in fact, Taylor Rap gets close enough 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:42.240 to where you can make that move. Go get it 1:16:42.360 --> 1:16:45.479 where you can, where you can manipulate three ninety and 1:16:45.720 --> 1:16:49.679 go get him with one Thornhill making it move for Thornhill. 1:16:50.760 --> 1:16:54.040 I like Rap myself better. Let's say let's say Rap 1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:59.600 goes thirty six, Thornhill is still there. Ye consider that absolutely, 1:16:59.720 --> 1:17:01.600 we can that. I don't play. I don't think I 1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:04.679 would do it. You'd rather have Tristan Hill and Treyvin 1:17:04.720 --> 1:17:07.800 Williams or whatever you're going, or whatever direction I get 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:11.080 to go. I just think it's I think it's a 1:17:11.160 --> 1:17:15.440 weird fit, right, Like I know he helps you get turnovers, 1:17:15.560 --> 1:17:17.799 or he did in college, and he's the better athlete 1:17:17.840 --> 1:17:21.680 than Rap, and he's bigger. But when I'm putting him 1:17:21.680 --> 1:17:24.120 with Xavier Woods, I'm trusting you to kind of play 1:17:24.360 --> 1:17:27.960 in the alley and make tackles. And watching one Thornhill 1:17:28.080 --> 1:17:30.640 do that doesn't build a lot of trust as a 1:17:30.720 --> 1:17:34.320 consistent finisher. No, I think that's fair. If his technique 1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:38.880 is not sound, then he'll there will be some broken tackles, 1:17:38.960 --> 1:17:41.479 no question. I think he also gives him some Xavier 1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:44.240 Woods insurance. Yeah, because if Xavier Woods does not turn 1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:46.680 out to be you know, locked down, that starting job. Well, 1:17:46.720 --> 1:17:48.960 then wan Thornhill moves to the free and you're getting 1:17:48.960 --> 1:17:51.439 a box safety. So there's some added you know, that 1:17:51.600 --> 1:17:54.680 versatility there to be an interchangeable guy again is why 1:17:54.760 --> 1:17:58.559 one Thornhill could be a first round pick. Okay, well 1:17:58.640 --> 1:18:01.240 so that yeah, well that's interesting. I thought we would 1:18:01.280 --> 1:18:04.120 just be happy about sitting there and making picks, but 1:18:04.320 --> 1:18:06.640 we depends but we kind of feel like though that 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:08.479 maybe going up might not be a bad thing for 1:18:08.560 --> 1:18:10.479 this football team. It just depends on how much you 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:14.080 have to pay. Yeah, and who's still there. I'm looking 1:18:14.120 --> 1:18:17.439 at it, honestly, the free agent running back market. I 1:18:17.560 --> 1:18:19.000 must not have looked at it in a couple of 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:22.679 weeks because it's not as enticing as I remember it being. 1:18:22.760 --> 1:18:25.000 And I go, maybe you get Dexter Williams in the 1:18:25.040 --> 1:18:27.960 fourth maybe Justice Hill, but yeah, I get Are you 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:31.160 how confident are you if you don't you know, maybe 1:18:31.200 --> 1:18:33.560 Travion Williams isn't overspend, But if you don't do that, 1:18:33.680 --> 1:18:36.320 are you confident that a guy you draft later can 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:40.559 handle that for you? If something were to be New Yversity, 1:18:40.640 --> 1:18:44.400 Colorado that nobody drafted problems. Yeah, I was banging the 1:18:44.439 --> 1:18:49.280 taible last year for him. Okay, we're gonna take our break. 1:18:49.320 --> 1:18:51.360 We're actually gonna take a break, believe not. After all that. 1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:54.080 I appreciate everybody's effort there and hanging out with but 1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:56.160 take a break. We're gonna come back. I want to 1:18:56.200 --> 1:18:58.599 get I want to turn the stage over to the questions. 1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:00.559 I know you got some Twitter on the two stuff, 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:03.720 get into that. Try and finish up this show here. 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:06.840 You know from Shaker Tins, we appreciate everybody that's out 1:19:06.880 --> 1:19:10.840 in the crowd listening to us pontificate on these players. Again, 1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:13.320 we come back, We'll hit a little Twitter on the twenty, 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:16.559 So stay tuned. Cowboys fans know that the second best 1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:19.320 of anything simply won't cut it, and your skincare should 1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:21.479 be no different. 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Uh is uh every show is is 1:21:41.560 --> 1:21:45.680 Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the twenty and so, uh, 1:21:46.240 --> 1:21:48.320 you know, if we can get my guy David Hellman 1:21:48.520 --> 1:21:52.800 to venture back onto the stage and not break his ankle. Oh, Dave, 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:57.880 better athletic moves. I've seen better athletic moves. Oh you didn't. 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.840 You didn't like my vertical, didn't like At Angeles raft. 1:22:00.960 --> 1:22:03.400 But thank you, Dane, Yeah, thank you very much, sir. 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:05.880 But yeah we got we got Twitter on the twenty 1:22:06.640 --> 1:22:08.920 and uh, I don't know if you have that crazy 1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:11.400 sounder that we usually use, but maybe not Twitter or 1:22:11.439 --> 1:22:14.400 Twitter twenty. There you go, So Dave, take it away, 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:15.840 take it on the way on the Twitter on the 1:22:15.880 --> 1:22:19.080 twenty fours. Take well, this is perfect timing from Alex. 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:21.000 I mean, I know we covered this before the break, 1:22:21.120 --> 1:22:24.640 but I'm curious. So I'm curious if that were to 1:22:24.720 --> 1:22:28.479 actually happen, and that's he says, would you consider Tristan 1:22:28.560 --> 1:22:30.719 Hiller reach at fifty eight? I mean, if that's actually 1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:33.320 where they go, how do you feel about that? If 1:22:33.320 --> 1:22:39.800 you consider that a reach? I would. I think it's 1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:43.160 important to consider that. With that draft that we did, 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:46.799 we're trying to make it realistic for the Dallas Cowboys 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:48.600 as opposed to Hey, what do you think of the 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:50.920 players and who would you pick? Because brought us just 1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:53.800 told you that Triston Hill was his sixty seventh player, 1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:56.880 which means, no matter how the draft went, he's got 1:22:56.920 --> 1:22:59.840 at least eight players left that he would take over. 1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:02.160 Tristan Hill. Yeah, and I think that's probably where I 1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:04.679 would have him, somewhere between sixty five and eighty something 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:09.200 like that. Okay, in in that range, right, I mean 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:12.040 so yeah, And again it's not just about the talent, 1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:14.040 it's you have to make sure you're comfortable with the player, 1:23:14.800 --> 1:23:17.240 the football character and everything that comes with them. So 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:20.120 they're doing their due diligence on them, and as long 1:23:20.120 --> 1:23:23.000 as they're comfortable to character, I fully understand the pick. 1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:25.519 If if that's it where they go at fifty eight. Yeah, 1:23:25.600 --> 1:23:28.120 so I mean I'm I'm okay with it because you know, 1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:31.360 in talking with Rod Miranelli about the player himself, Rod 1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:33.880 really likes his kid a lot. I mean, he and 1:23:33.920 --> 1:23:36.760 it'll be interesting to see with and when that night 1:23:36.840 --> 1:23:39.519 in the war room we always get to we'll talk about, Okay, 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:41.599 who the coach is standing in the back of the room. 1:23:41.960 --> 1:23:45.160 If it's Rod Marinelli, Chris Richard, you know, Okay, is 1:23:45.200 --> 1:23:47.439 it gonna be the corner, There's gonna be a safety, 1:23:47.800 --> 1:23:50.080 there's gonna be defensive tackle. But I just think they 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:53.360 liked this kid a lot, and so to them, that's 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:55.880 probably not a reach. To the panel, maybe it is 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:58.000 a little bit of a reach, but I don't I 1:23:58.120 --> 1:24:01.639 don't think so. I don't think they believe that maybe 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:04.240 we do a little bit more. Here's a question from 1:24:04.280 --> 1:24:06.360 Sam which again kind of touches on the theme of 1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:09.639 the mock draft. He says, it seems like the assumption 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:12.120 has been we're drafting two defensive players on Day two. 1:24:13.479 --> 1:24:16.360 Nobody's making a big enough deal out of the offense 1:24:16.439 --> 1:24:19.560 having trouble scoring last year. Basically, how big of a 1:24:19.640 --> 1:24:22.760 surprise would it be if they're offensive minded on day two? 1:24:23.360 --> 1:24:27.439 And what makes me think that is Deebo Samuel being 1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:32.240 a perfect example. Would they really bypass a far superior 1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:35.760 offensive player just in the name of drafting defense, because 1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:39.639 that goes contrary to what everyone says you're always supposed 1:24:39.640 --> 1:24:41.280 to do about your draft. I think that's how you 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:45.559 make massive mistakes. So are we not giving enough credence 1:24:45.600 --> 1:24:48.439 to the thought that they might really draft the best player. 1:24:48.560 --> 1:24:50.400 I do think that this team is set up to 1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:53.080 pick the best player available. I think if a safety 1:24:53.120 --> 1:24:55.040 falls in your l app that's towards the very top 1:24:55.080 --> 1:24:57.040 of your board, then that would be perfect for them, 1:24:57.360 --> 1:25:00.280 that would be their ideal scenario. But I mean, I 1:25:00.360 --> 1:25:04.400 think you're good at receiver. You're not good at running back, 1:25:04.960 --> 1:25:07.600 but you can fix it other places if you need to. 1:25:08.160 --> 1:25:10.679 You're good at quarterback, you're good on the offensive line, 1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:14.519 you're good in the secondary maybe minus the safety. You're 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:17.400 great at linebacker, you're good on the defensive line. You 1:25:17.479 --> 1:25:20.800 don't have to do anything. So I would feel weird 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:22.680 if they forced to pick. But here's the thing. When 1:25:22.720 --> 1:25:26.840 you're talking about it, pick fifty eight best available, Like, 1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:29.080 I don't know if you're talking about one clear guy. 1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:30.920 I think you're talking about like a group of players, 1:25:31.800 --> 1:25:33.400 and I think you're talking about a receiver, you're talking 1:25:33.400 --> 1:25:36.200 about defensive time, you're talking about you know, a handful 1:25:36.240 --> 1:25:38.360 of receivers at that point, I don't know one fifty 1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:42.560 or at two fifty eight. If you feel this is 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:44.599 a clearly our best player on the board, I think 1:25:44.640 --> 1:25:47.559 things get a little muddled and you're deciding between four 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:52.040 or five players. Well, teams have their board, like I 1:25:52.080 --> 1:25:54.519 would imagine they'll have them made like the one will 1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:57.160 make where you'll see first round, second round, third round. 1:25:57.360 --> 1:25:59.639 But in each individual round, will they have him stacked? 1:26:01.240 --> 1:26:02.840 I think that's what if you do just point to 1:26:02.880 --> 1:26:05.760 the top, yeah, right, what the what the cowboys will 1:26:05.800 --> 1:26:07.800 do is my experience. Again, the last time I was 1:26:07.800 --> 1:26:09.519 in a war room within was two thousand and five, 1:26:09.680 --> 1:26:12.200 so but I know there's a lot of similarity and 1:26:12.280 --> 1:26:14.360 what they did back then to what they do now, 1:26:14.840 --> 1:26:18.479 and it's it's by round, by position, and then what 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:21.040 they go off of is the stack. Okay, it's say 1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:22.880 they have one hundred and fifty names on that board. 1:26:23.280 --> 1:26:25.360 It'll be they take their top player and then their 1:26:25.520 --> 1:26:29.200 player at one fifty, and then they'll stack it vertical board. 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:32.519 So you got it by position, by round, but then 1:26:32.600 --> 1:26:35.960 you got it by actually by players. So that's how 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:39.160 they separate, you know. For example, you know there might 1:26:39.200 --> 1:26:41.600 be guys two guys that have a grade of a 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:44.920 low grades win on their board. So if a guy 1:26:45.040 --> 1:26:48.880 is a one one point zero zero, then the next 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:51.200 guy might have a one point zero five, you know, 1:26:51.320 --> 1:26:54.280 and that's how they'll stack them down that board. So 1:26:54.520 --> 1:26:56.840 that's that kind of is the way that they bring 1:26:56.920 --> 1:26:58.680 them in the order of how they would want to 1:26:58.720 --> 1:27:01.559 do it. So a month ago, you had a five 1:27:01.600 --> 1:27:06.040 alarm panic attack because Damien Harris visited the team and 1:27:06.280 --> 1:27:08.479 you're preparing for them to draft a running back at 1:27:08.560 --> 1:27:11.400 fifty eight. Yeah, seventy two hours before they go on 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:14.280 the clock. You're just just you're throwing an offense out 1:27:14.320 --> 1:27:17.000 the window as a possibility. I think that they brought 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:21.640 Damien Harrison as if they got wiped out. Yeah, but 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:24.080 I do. I think they're I think they're thinking if 1:27:24.120 --> 1:27:27.280 they lost all their if they lost all their defensive 1:27:27.320 --> 1:27:29.840 players that they wanted, maybe they maybe they think that 1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:33.920 Damien Harris, like Jeff had pause about taking Hill. Yeah, 1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:37.040 you know, I think we all had pause about taking him. 1:27:37.640 --> 1:27:40.679 Maybe on their board, Damien Harris is a higher rated player. 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:44.040 Maybe when they do the stack that Damien Harris's grade 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:48.960 might be a one to five and then and then 1:27:49.120 --> 1:27:51.560 Hill's grade is a one two nine, and there's a 1:27:51.680 --> 1:27:54.200 there's a gap, you know, and they're gonna say, Okay, 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:57.200 we're not gonna jump We're not gonna jump Hill just 1:27:57.320 --> 1:27:59.840 because we need a defensive tackle, or maybe they do 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:02.960 do that. I just that that's where that happened to 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:07.599 him one time. And basically, my buddy Thom Siskowski lost 1:28:07.680 --> 1:28:10.240 his position, and it was it was the it was 1:28:10.320 --> 1:28:13.519 the Shari Floyd draft where they had Sharie Floyd as 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:17.000 a top five player, the defensive tackle from Florida, and 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:20.360 they jumped him. They could did a complete jump, you know, 1:28:20.560 --> 1:28:23.320 and took somebody completely different. And I that was Tom's 1:28:23.400 --> 1:28:26.880 last draft, you know, and so I I just don't 1:28:26.920 --> 1:28:29.720 see them doing that. A great example of that was 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:34.920 when Zack Martin was taken. You know, they had Martin, Manziel, 1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:38.200 all those guys, and then you know, my uh Chesier 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:41.160 goes right ahead of him. What's the next player they took? 1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:44.320 They pointed the board and said, okay, Zack Martin, boom 1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:48.120 they you know, that's a great example of them just 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:52.000 following the order they had. I'm I'm I'll be curious 1:28:52.040 --> 1:28:54.439 to see because we took a defensive player because we 1:28:54.520 --> 1:28:56.560 think that's what we want, what they want to do. 1:28:56.800 --> 1:28:58.680 I think that is what they want to do. We 1:28:58.760 --> 1:29:01.759 should be shocked that they can offensive. We shouldn't be shocked. 1:29:01.760 --> 1:29:03.920 If we shouldn't be shocked if they take a running back, 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.400 we shouldn't be shot. I don't know, that's I know, 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:09.880 I know, I know, I though I will be shocked 1:29:09.920 --> 1:29:11.960 if they take a running back, even if we shouldn't be. 1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:15.240 They brought in receivers, will be is a receiver in 1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:18.560 your time? Okay, the thirty visits, if you had to 1:29:18.720 --> 1:29:22.080 rank them of the rank of the thirty visits, Is 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:25.000 Deebo Samuel a higher radio player on your board than 1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:29.040 Damien Harris? Yes, yes, he's very comfortable. Maybe they think 1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:32.240 Damian Harris will make it to ninety. I may wouldn't. 1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:34.040 Maybe you know, I don't have the same context you 1:29:34.120 --> 1:29:37.799 guys do. Just on my watching, I wouldn't be surprised 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:40.920 at all, right, I would. Yeah, I wouldn't like that 1:29:41.040 --> 1:29:43.800 pick at fifty eight for any team. I'd be okay 1:29:43.800 --> 1:29:46.200 with it. Fifty eight for a running back needy team, 1:29:46.200 --> 1:29:47.760 but not this team. Do you have him as a 1:29:47.800 --> 1:29:50.040 straight two or two three? I gave him two because 1:29:50.040 --> 1:29:52.080 I think he can't do everything. That's I haven't missed 1:29:52.160 --> 1:29:54.519 two as well. Damien Harris is a seventy five percent 1:29:54.680 --> 1:29:57.519 version of Zeke. That that's how I view him. See 1:29:57.520 --> 1:29:59.800 that's maybe what maybe you know with with that, Maybe 1:30:00.000 --> 1:30:03.200 there's a scout in that room making that exact argument 1:30:03.600 --> 1:30:07.040 for putting him up there on that board. I did 1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:10.519 go into panic attack. No freaked out. No, I freaked 1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:12.719 out because I'm thinking, why are they bringing a second 1:30:12.800 --> 1:30:15.880 round running back in her to visit? Maybe? You know, 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:18.000 I I that's freak. Maybe they don't think he's a 1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:19.920 second round running back, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe 1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:21.559 they think they don't get him in third round. Right, 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:25.120 and and and according to their mock draft, we got 1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:28.000 a running back though in the third round. Right. I 1:30:28.160 --> 1:30:30.479 hate to keep beating this drum. I'm really sorry, but 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:33.040 like nobody thinks that you can get Debo in the 1:30:33.120 --> 1:30:35.280 third round. No, no, no, no, no, no, no way. 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:37.120 And they really don't think they're going to a shout 1:30:37.120 --> 1:30:39.160 out him a fifty eight. Yeah, I think he's gonna 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:42.720 be off the board in the top. Okay, shouts out 1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:45.920 to our buddy, Trevor. Shout out to Kelsey. Charles had 1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:50.799 just rolled into bad Chuck. All right, Chuck, Trevor shouts 1:30:50.800 --> 1:30:54.200 out to him. Came out here, asked us these questions directly. Yes, 1:30:54.360 --> 1:30:56.400 I usually do. Tell me more. I'm gonna let him 1:30:56.439 --> 1:30:59.080 do it. He's got three guys, Okay, Uh, tell me more, 1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:03.680 Tell Trevor more. Are about Caleb Wilson, the UCLA tight end. 1:31:03.960 --> 1:31:06.960 Somebody else take that one, please, he's your favorite player, 1:31:07.080 --> 1:31:10.439 Jeff Caleb. Wilson had almost a thousand yards as a 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:12.200 tight end and he ran a four or five six 1:31:12.400 --> 1:31:15.720 ye So off of those numbers and saying he's six 1:31:15.880 --> 1:31:19.360 four two thirty five, my initial impression if you just 1:31:19.560 --> 1:31:22.320 gave me his stats, his forty time and his size 1:31:22.920 --> 1:31:27.519 would be that he goes on day two watching his tape. 1:31:29.040 --> 1:31:35.240 If he were in the seventh round, I would consider it. Wow, 1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:37.479 I gave a PFA grade, So I'm with him. Yeah, Okay. 1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:40.120 It's really weird because you see the numbers on the 1:31:40.160 --> 1:31:41.760 guys and then you watch him play and like Drew 1:31:41.800 --> 1:31:44.800 Sample at Washington, would you have three hundred yards yeah, 1:31:44.920 --> 1:31:48.200 twenty something catches. I'd take him three or four rounds 1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:51.439 ahead of ahead of Wilson, and it's just I don't know, 1:31:51.520 --> 1:31:54.000 it's weird like that. Sometimes, you know, you watch him 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:55.680 play and it's weird that they schemed him open on 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:58.080 basically one yard drag routes all the time and would 1:31:58.120 --> 1:31:59.960 throw him the ball. But there was nothing I saw 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:01.920 that was like, man, that guy's gonna be really good 1:32:01.960 --> 1:32:05.240 on Sundays because I don't like stiff athletes who have 1:32:05.400 --> 1:32:08.600 inconsistent ball skills, you know, And that's that's why for me, 1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:12.120 he's way down the list and he'll be overdraft. If 1:32:12.120 --> 1:32:14.840 he's drafted, he'll be overdrafted. Put it like that. Yeah, 1:32:14.880 --> 1:32:16.840 I didn't. Which it's weird for a power five tight 1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:19.240 end with almost a thousand, so I understand the question. 1:32:19.320 --> 1:32:21.080 But he's a big guy that doesn't play with very 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:24.080 much power. That's that that that's a that's a big, big, big, 1:32:24.160 --> 1:32:26.840 big problem. And I think that you also, he doesn't 1:32:26.840 --> 1:32:29.600 play with much balance, you know. That's another thing. I mean, 1:32:29.640 --> 1:32:31.840 if you're tighten, my titan's playing out of balance. I'm 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:34.560 I'm not a fan at all. So who else we 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:37.240 got on that? How about Mark Fields, the corner out 1:32:37.280 --> 1:32:40.120 of Clemson. Dane mentioned him briefly yea during the mock 1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:44.040 He's he's weird because he did not see the field 1:32:44.080 --> 1:32:47.000 a lot at Clemson, but when he was on the field, 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:49.759 he seemed to make plays. You know, He's an undersized 1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:54.519 slot guy. He's under five two pounds, speedy, forty three 1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:59.680 seven at the combine, but what six career starts, one interception? 1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:02.240 Just not a productive guy couldn't get on the field. 1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:05.960 I know Clemson is a loaded program, but at the 1:33:06.000 --> 1:33:08.439 same time, if you're a good player, you find the field. 1:33:08.600 --> 1:33:10.639 They play in a rotating system to a corner, though, 1:33:10.680 --> 1:33:13.960 didn't they Because I remember watching Mullen, you felt like 1:33:14.040 --> 1:33:16.280 they were why is he off? You know, and it 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:17.800 was one of those things kind of they were trying 1:33:17.840 --> 1:33:20.439 to find It's like they felt like that they needed 1:33:20.479 --> 1:33:23.760 to play, like they had so many kids and they 1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:26.160 felt bad about not playing them. You know, they just 1:33:26.240 --> 1:33:28.519 didn't want to sit guys well. And what really helped 1:33:28.560 --> 1:33:30.280 Mark Fields as when he went the Senior Bowl, right, 1:33:30.400 --> 1:33:32.000 he was a late invite to the Senior Bowl, and 1:33:32.080 --> 1:33:33.720 he really had a chance of show out there and 1:33:33.760 --> 1:33:35.559 he had a good week and that's what really helped him. 1:33:36.160 --> 1:33:38.519 That's why we're talking about Mark Fields as someone who's 1:33:38.560 --> 1:33:41.040 gonna be drafted somewhere on Day three. And you know 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:46.160 remember his father, Mark Fields. Yeah, yeah, the Saints. Yeah. 1:33:46.200 --> 1:33:50.120 I was a linebacker from Washington round pick. Yeah, Washington State. 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:53.720 That those bloodlines, yeah, exactly, all right, there's one more, yeah, 1:33:53.760 --> 1:33:58.200 one last. Mike Edwards, the safety out of Kentucky. He 1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:02.719 might be my favorite safety of the non mainstream safeties. 1:34:02.720 --> 1:34:04.400 You know, we always talk about the same six or 1:34:04.439 --> 1:34:07.000 seven guys in the second round. Mike Edwards is the 1:34:07.040 --> 1:34:09.439 guy in the third round that once you get wiped 1:34:09.439 --> 1:34:12.400 out at every other your safety options. I love Mike 1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:15.639 Edwards in that spot. Really productive both as a run 1:34:15.680 --> 1:34:18.920 defender and in coverage. He can run a guy that's 1:34:18.920 --> 1:34:20.280 been out of sight out of mind a little bit 1:34:20.320 --> 1:34:22.920 because he's been hurt. But when he's during the pre 1:34:23.080 --> 1:34:26.479 draft process, but when he's on the field, he makes plays. Yeah, 1:34:26.600 --> 1:34:28.800 I think that. You know what I liked about him 1:34:28.920 --> 1:34:31.680 was I loved how the guy hit. I mean, and 1:34:31.800 --> 1:34:34.000 this guy, this guy's one of those guys that it's 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:36.439 not afraid to draw a flag. You know, he'll take 1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:38.160 He'll take a shot at you in the middle of 1:34:38.160 --> 1:34:40.479 the field. And I thought that was I thought that 1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:43.400 was really kind of admirable about him, though, But you know, 1:34:43.640 --> 1:34:47.320 he needs to me he needs to do a better 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:49.760 job of coverage in the red zone. That's where I 1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:52.200 saw him get exposed a little bit. And in the 1:34:52.360 --> 1:34:55.240 field he seemed to do better. But the smaller the space, 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:58.280 the more trouble he had covering. And then I worry 1:34:58.280 --> 1:35:00.400 about him giving that up down there when you get 1:35:00.439 --> 1:35:02.439 in the red zone, you know, Elison, you put you 1:35:02.479 --> 1:35:05.160 put a safety in coverage and then he's given up play. 1:35:05.280 --> 1:35:07.880 So I was I was a little bit more uh 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:11.000 that that bothered me, But I didn't think he played 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:13.640 with very much smoothness to it was another thing. Kind 1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:15.920 of was a herky jerky kind of a player. And 1:35:16.040 --> 1:35:17.840 I my safety is to be able to play with 1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:20.960 that range, get over make plays, but have a little 1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:23.040 bit smoothness about him. There were three players in this 1:35:23.200 --> 1:35:26.000 draft who have over three hundred tackles and over ten 1:35:26.080 --> 1:35:29.519 interceptions in their career. He's one of them. So ideally 1:35:29.560 --> 1:35:31.720 he's your third safety on your roster, right, you know, 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:34.320 a nickel guy, dime guy. Uh. They asked him to 1:35:34.400 --> 1:35:37.240 do a lot like he seemed like he watching him, 1:35:37.280 --> 1:35:39.439 I felt like he played single high, he played down, 1:35:39.600 --> 1:35:42.000 he's covering the flats. He's kind of kind of all 1:35:42.080 --> 1:35:44.160 over the place. But did you see him though, man, 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:46.120 when he had to really turn and go. Because I 1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:49.640 saw a guy that labored. That's what I'm worried about it. 1:35:49.760 --> 1:35:51.720 He was like laboring to get to the ball. That's 1:35:51.760 --> 1:35:53.639 why I kind of liked him because the other part 1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:55.360 is I felt like he was hit you. That's the 1:35:55.400 --> 1:35:57.160 best thing about him. I feel like he was almost 1:35:57.240 --> 1:35:59.599 kind of an anxious player, where when when I see 1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:02.320 him in average, I felt like, the first move he's coming, 1:36:02.760 --> 1:36:06.400 the first anything, he's coming. And a lot of times 1:36:06.439 --> 1:36:09.040 that's not where you need to be. Yea, but he did. 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:13.120 I mean Dane's right, he was productive. Um So yes, 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:15.880 I like him and I would worry about him. Third 1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:19.479 fourth round. I love I love this thought exercise. Cowboys 1:36:19.520 --> 1:36:22.240 aren't picking Thursday as far as we know, don't care. 1:36:23.479 --> 1:36:26.080 We're gonna be live streaming in anyway, so yeah, please 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:29.680 join us. Here's here's a question from Bryant. If this 1:36:30.280 --> 1:36:34.759 card smokescreen is real and they're not sold on picking 1:36:34.840 --> 1:36:37.200 Kyler Murray, which I don't really believe for the record, 1:36:37.320 --> 1:36:40.639 but let's just say that they're serious if they pass. 1:36:40.880 --> 1:36:44.240 If Arizona passes on Kyler Murray, where does he get 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:50.240 drafted Oakland four? Not? You don't not, Miami, Do we 1:36:50.280 --> 1:36:52.320 see a trade up the Jets one out of there? 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:54.880 The Jets at the third pick overall are trying like 1:36:55.040 --> 1:36:57.160 heck to get out of it, trying to get out 1:36:57.160 --> 1:37:00.320 of it, like Mike wants that second round pickbacks something 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:03.800 insane to get up to get up to three. I mean, 1:37:03.880 --> 1:37:06.400 who else needs one in that in that well? The Giants, 1:37:06.520 --> 1:37:09.720 Giants Steward seven. Yeah, Gettleman probably hates Murray. If I 1:37:09.800 --> 1:37:11.839 had to guess, I think that. I think actually Oakland 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:14.200 sitting in a pretty good spot because I think John. 1:37:14.320 --> 1:37:17.599 I think John likes both. I think he likes both him, 1:37:17.640 --> 1:37:20.680 and I think he likes Haskins too. Do you think 1:37:20.720 --> 1:37:23.200 that they would move up from four to three just 1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:26.160 to guarantee they get their guy? That seems like something 1:37:26.240 --> 1:37:29.200 that John would do. Just just did it two years ago. No, no, no, 1:37:29.640 --> 1:37:33.240 it seems like something that John would do. I don't know. 1:37:33.320 --> 1:37:36.280 I might let that. I'm I'm I'm gonna guarantee. I'm 1:37:36.320 --> 1:37:40.280 thinking that somebody is not gonna offer mcagnan enough at 1:37:40.400 --> 1:37:44.840 three to make that trade. I think that, Okay, hear 1:37:44.880 --> 1:37:48.880 me out on this, a Rams deal, an Eagles deal. 1:37:49.120 --> 1:37:51.760 But we saw for Carson Wins and those guys, right, 1:37:52.040 --> 1:37:54.560 I don't see somebody making that kind of deal with 1:37:54.680 --> 1:37:57.320 the Jets. Don't either, And the Jets are just gonna 1:37:57.360 --> 1:37:59.240 sit there and pick the player. See, I don't I 1:37:59.240 --> 1:38:02.000 don't either. But same time, I also know the Jets 1:38:02.000 --> 1:38:04.320 are desperate to get out of there, and that worries me. 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:06.759 So if I'm the Raiders and I see a quarterback, 1:38:06.800 --> 1:38:09.720 I want Okay, Okay, if they're desperate and they're willing 1:38:09.800 --> 1:38:12.400 to take the low market value to get out of there, 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:14.240 which I think they are, then if that's the case, 1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:16.320 then you then you need to be worried. But okay, well, 1:38:16.360 --> 1:38:18.600 the will the Jet will the will the Raiders be 1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:20.840 able to offer enough just to move up one spot? 1:38:21.000 --> 1:38:23.839 Or they definitely can offer enough. They have a boatload 1:38:23.920 --> 1:38:26.439 of picks, right, but but but but do you want 1:38:26.479 --> 1:38:28.599 to if you're the Jets, do you want someone coming 1:38:28.640 --> 1:38:31.479 from the middle of the board like the Dolphins to 1:38:31.760 --> 1:38:34.320 like to to take all the to get all their picks. Well, 1:38:34.360 --> 1:38:36.519 that's what you want. But if that offers not there, 1:38:36.600 --> 1:38:38.840 well that's what I'm saying though, That's what I'm saying. 1:38:38.960 --> 1:38:41.880 You you you know you would you better off if 1:38:41.920 --> 1:38:43.960 you can't get if you're just gonna get one pick 1:38:44.080 --> 1:38:48.000 from moving down? Is that is that enough? Oh? Yeah, 1:38:48.160 --> 1:38:51.040 I would, gladly, I would. Is that getting out of there? Yes? 1:38:51.280 --> 1:38:53.720 I would gladly. You're you're getting A. You're not taking 1:38:53.800 --> 1:38:57.720 Kyler Murray, so you're gonna get a four take six 1:38:57.760 --> 1:39:00.599 to five. To me, I think good Will Grewon would 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:02.960 take either one of those quarterbacks. I really do. I 1:39:03.000 --> 1:39:04.960 think he would take either one of those guys. So 1:39:05.200 --> 1:39:07.240 are you Are you saying that Dwayne Haskins is gonna 1:39:07.240 --> 1:39:09.760 go forth? Then that's kind of what you're saying kind 1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:15.240 of No, I could. It's the Raiders. For God's sake. Hey, 1:39:15.439 --> 1:39:17.280 I want you to say. I need to put together 1:39:17.360 --> 1:39:20.120 my final mock draft, so I need your help here. No, absolutely, 1:39:20.640 --> 1:39:23.240 it mean Dweyne Haskins. Do you think I think Green 1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:25.160 would do? I think he's looking at either one of 1:39:25.160 --> 1:39:28.160 those quarterbacks that's been having some late night phone conversations 1:39:28.200 --> 1:39:30.479 with your old friends. Who's who's a fourth or fifth 1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:33.680 round tackle prospect? If history is an indication that's who 1:39:33.720 --> 1:39:36.519 they'll take. That's mean I'm just telling you that. I'm 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:39.080 just telling you though, that I think he would. He's 1:39:39.120 --> 1:39:41.640 looking at both those quarterbacks. I really do. Do you 1:39:41.760 --> 1:39:44.360 think do you think that Kyler Murray really won't go 1:39:44.439 --> 1:39:47.320 one overall? Anybody? No? Anybody? No, I think he's going 1:39:47.400 --> 1:39:49.320 I think he's going to number one. Okay, and I 1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:51.200 think the Bosa goes too, and the draft starts at 1:39:51.280 --> 1:39:53.680 number three with the Jets. I think I agree with that. 1:39:53.960 --> 1:39:56.200 And I don't know who knows who's pick and third 1:39:56.280 --> 1:39:58.160 is the Jets or someone else, but it'll be interesting. 1:39:58.920 --> 1:40:02.719 Here's a Homer question from my homies, Aaron and Julie Murray. Okay, 1:40:03.400 --> 1:40:05.719 we already talked about Stanley Morgan Junior, but what about 1:40:05.920 --> 1:40:11.040 Divine oh zigbo combines back. Yeah, he's a hard charger who, 1:40:11.560 --> 1:40:14.760 uh it doesn't always look smooth like it. It's not 1:40:14.920 --> 1:40:16.920 you know, his cuts aren't beautiful in that, but he 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:20.840 finds ways to be productive after first contact. Uh. Dallas 1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:24.040 day kid, right, and he's one He's one of like 1:40:24.479 --> 1:40:27.760 like eight players this year who had over seven yards 1:40:27.800 --> 1:40:31.080 of carry. Yeah, so he's really productive. Uh. He's a 1:40:31.120 --> 1:40:34.880 guy that in the late fifth round, sixth round, that's 1:40:34.880 --> 1:40:37.439 where you start considering him with these other running backs. 1:40:37.560 --> 1:40:39.679 I think he's one of the few one day three 1:40:40.120 --> 1:40:42.960 who is a legitimate three down player at the running 1:40:43.000 --> 1:40:46.679 back position. I feel like I'm I'm betraying myself because 1:40:46.760 --> 1:40:50.280 like my anti running back tendencies are starting to come back, 1:40:50.400 --> 1:40:52.920 Like after I let the charge on Trevion Williams. I'm like, 1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:55.320 there's gotta be a guy on day three that we 1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:58.280 can get to backup Zekes. Gotta be go to zigbo 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:02.240 gets zigbo at in the fifth round? Here we go, Yeah, 1:41:02.439 --> 1:41:06.160 Justice Hill, Maybe yeah, Exter Williams. But all right, So 1:41:06.520 --> 1:41:08.760 if again, if that's the theory, then we just need 1:41:08.840 --> 1:41:11.719 to the Cowboys need to move ninety. Then I kinda 1:41:12.240 --> 1:41:15.080 they need to move ninety. I mean coming around, I'm 1:41:15.200 --> 1:41:17.960 kind of I'm kind of getting there. Like if you 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:20.840 tell me that we can get a safety we really 1:41:20.960 --> 1:41:26.439 love at fifty and it's gonna cost us ninety, go 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:29.400 get them? Think I I think I was exercise turned 1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:32.479 the quarter for you. I like that more than drafting 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:35.479 two players that I feel about. Yeah, I like that. 1:41:35.600 --> 1:41:37.080 But what if they were going to pick two players 1:41:37.120 --> 1:41:40.360 that you didn't feel about? What if what if? Yeah? 1:41:40.360 --> 1:41:43.240 What if win them was debot? Then I'm then we're 1:41:43.439 --> 1:41:49.800 just running the flag through the streets, press swinging it around. Uh, 1:41:50.120 --> 1:41:51.840 he was not gonna be there. So what do you 1:41:51.880 --> 1:41:55.000 think about the Nebraska kid? The runner? Tell you what 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:59.680 I was interested and tell me always combined snub so 1:42:00.240 --> 1:42:02.599 I would have to learn this from pro day because 1:42:02.760 --> 1:42:04.400 I thought on tape I was kind of impressed with 1:42:04.439 --> 1:42:06.080 the way he caught the ball. There were a few 1:42:07.439 --> 1:42:09.960 where it looks easy turning around, yeah, and grabbing it, 1:42:10.280 --> 1:42:12.400 usually on the wheel routes. Even got down on the 1:42:12.479 --> 1:42:16.559 sideline once. So like, I don't know for six foot 1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:20.960 and two thirty three, it's weird because I didn't think 1:42:21.000 --> 1:42:23.559 he consistently ran with a great pad level, Like nothing 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:27.360 about it quite looked right. But the results were right right, 1:42:27.640 --> 1:42:29.720 and he was able to break tackles and he was 1:42:29.840 --> 1:42:32.800 able to make it hard to bring him down. So like, 1:42:32.960 --> 1:42:35.040 just because it didn't look right is the way the 1:42:35.160 --> 1:42:37.920 reason that I would have him somewhere around the fifth round. Yeah, 1:42:38.000 --> 1:42:40.000 the way I described it is he doesn't like make 1:42:40.080 --> 1:42:43.200 hard cuts and like make guys miss. He is he 1:42:43.360 --> 1:42:45.600 is a straight line runner in my opinion though, he 1:42:45.720 --> 1:42:48.320 really really is, and I think that I think he 1:42:48.479 --> 1:42:51.720 has to have he gets what the line blocks. If 1:42:51.760 --> 1:42:54.040 they block for him, he's gonna get yards. If they 1:42:54.160 --> 1:42:57.000 don't block, he's gonna have problems. That's kind of where 1:42:57.000 --> 1:42:58.720 I saw this guy. I think he's one of the 1:42:58.760 --> 1:43:00.479 few on day three that you look out and say 1:43:00.520 --> 1:43:02.800 he is a legitimate guy that can be a three 1:43:02.880 --> 1:43:05.160 down or any down back. It doesn't matter what down. 1:43:05.280 --> 1:43:07.479 He can go out there and you know, be a 1:43:07.600 --> 1:43:10.559 reliable player for us. I know we talked. We talked 1:43:10.560 --> 1:43:13.400 about him last week, and I apologize by Cowboys fans 1:43:13.560 --> 1:43:15.920 seem kind of obsessed with this guy, which is interesting 1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:20.799 to me because there's virtually no noise about him. Draymond 1:43:20.880 --> 1:43:25.240 Jones fifty eight. If for some reason that comes to pass, 1:43:25.479 --> 1:43:27.240 is that something we're not talking about the man his 1:43:27.320 --> 1:43:30.760 second air but in his teeth right now, so which 1:43:30.880 --> 1:43:36.479 we initially I don't know if I stay three techniques. Yeah, 1:43:36.680 --> 1:43:40.320 he tackle. I don't know if people remember months ago, 1:43:41.080 --> 1:43:42.880 but initially I was seeing him in from the first 1:43:43.000 --> 1:43:46.080 round in bought drafts, and so when I first watched him, 1:43:46.840 --> 1:43:51.200 I was like, holy cow, the world is insane because 1:43:51.600 --> 1:43:54.840 you can see the ability to win sort of with 1:43:54.960 --> 1:43:57.560 quickness and rush the passer. But I also saw a 1:43:57.600 --> 1:44:01.880 guy that when you snapped the ball, stands straight up 1:44:02.439 --> 1:44:05.160 and like, please wash me out of this play. It's like, 1:44:05.240 --> 1:44:07.600 I just think there's a lot of work to do, 1:44:08.200 --> 1:44:11.599 and there's some tools to work with, and even at 1:44:11.640 --> 1:44:15.759 fifty eight, that's probably rich for me, he's my fifty 1:44:15.800 --> 1:44:18.639 six player. So right around fifty eight is I feel comfortable? 1:44:18.720 --> 1:44:20.600 But didn't we say last week that you kind of 1:44:20.640 --> 1:44:22.680 think he'll go higher than that. I'd be surprised if 1:44:22.720 --> 1:44:28.400 he's fell out of the top forty. Yeah, right around there. Well, 1:44:28.439 --> 1:44:30.479 and I think this draft is also it's so weak 1:44:30.720 --> 1:44:33.160 as like those three techniques. That's why we have to 1:44:33.160 --> 1:44:35.679 take Triston Hill at fifty eight, right, It's why Draymond 1:44:35.760 --> 1:44:37.800 Jones has a chance to go late first round, early 1:44:37.880 --> 1:44:40.160 second round. Is the three techniques just they're not there 1:44:40.280 --> 1:44:42.519 here where Shakerton's and I'm looking up at the screen. 1:44:42.560 --> 1:44:45.479 The ESPN's doing their writer's mockt Yeah, they're doing the 1:44:45.520 --> 1:44:47.880 writer's mock. And your guy, Brian Burns just with the 1:44:48.040 --> 1:44:51.680 Carolina at sixteen. That's I mean that it's about where 1:44:51.680 --> 1:44:53.559 he's gonna go. You and I are. I mean, that's 1:44:53.600 --> 1:44:56.720 gonna be the one I'm gonna wear probably the world. 1:44:56.800 --> 1:44:59.280 According to Brian says, he'll be in play for the 1:44:59.320 --> 1:45:02.600 Cowboys it fifty Brian, you just gonna come around to 1:45:02.680 --> 1:45:06.120 realize that the pass rush is more important. I don't 1:45:06.160 --> 1:45:09.000 like the guy, and that's exactly why Draymond Jones is 1:45:09.000 --> 1:45:11.840 gonna go higher. I think I know so in a 1:45:11.960 --> 1:45:15.320 world where he in a world where and if that's 1:45:15.360 --> 1:45:17.559 if he's there, is that something we're not talking about, 1:45:17.600 --> 1:45:19.920 Like should we be considering him? I mean, I've heard 1:45:20.040 --> 1:45:22.760 next to nothing about they're not doing work on him. 1:45:23.320 --> 1:45:25.880 They didn't bring him in, But is that something we 1:45:25.880 --> 1:45:27.680 should be thinking about. I don't think he's gonna make 1:45:27.680 --> 1:45:29.800 it that far, so I think it's smoot. But at 1:45:29.880 --> 1:45:33.600 the same time, if he's there, heck yeah, And like 1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:35.000 I said, I have a fifty six to overall on 1:45:35.080 --> 1:45:37.400 my board, so I'd be good with it. Brontess would 1:45:37.400 --> 1:45:39.320 be good with it. Jeff would be. He have to 1:45:39.360 --> 1:45:41.120 warm up to it. Yeah, you have to. We have 1:45:41.200 --> 1:45:43.360 to get him there. Yeah, Jeff can go back and 1:45:43.439 --> 1:45:47.120 watch the tape. We're putting our board together. Watch him 1:45:47.160 --> 1:45:49.240 the tape, sir, and I won't stand for your insults. 1:45:49.320 --> 1:45:51.080 This is gonna be a blood bat tonight over at 1:45:51.120 --> 1:45:53.960 the start getting ready for that, That's all I got 1:45:54.040 --> 1:45:56.240 to be honest. You got yeah, all right, Well this 1:45:56.320 --> 1:45:58.640 we'll take one final break and let everybody take a 1:45:58.760 --> 1:46:01.320 pull off through Miller lights, and then when we come back, 1:46:01.479 --> 1:46:04.880 I want to go through some rumors, some things that 1:46:04.960 --> 1:46:07.040 we might be hearing. What are some lies? What are 1:46:07.120 --> 1:46:09.559 some truths? Where are we going in this thing? As 1:46:09.600 --> 1:46:11.920 we get really close to this draft, so we're right 1:46:11.960 --> 1:46:14.479 back to the draft show from Shakerton's Stay tuned. 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We 1:48:24.680 --> 1:48:27.439 want to thank the folks at Shakerton for allowing us 1:48:27.439 --> 1:48:28.720 to come out. We don't get to come out on 1:48:28.800 --> 1:48:30.800 the road very much, but we do appreciate. What a 1:48:30.880 --> 1:48:33.720 great setting to be out here. Again. This is my 1:48:33.760 --> 1:48:36.840 old stomping grounds. I used to live across the street 1:48:37.600 --> 1:48:40.080 and Austin Ranch and came over to this direction quite 1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:43.720 a bit. So good to see it doing well. Frequenting 1:48:43.760 --> 1:48:46.320 the night spots here. Bran, Yeah, back in the day, 1:48:46.720 --> 1:48:48.840 back in the day, five years ago, back in the day, 1:48:48.880 --> 1:48:50.360 five years ago, when I was yeah, when I was 1:48:50.400 --> 1:48:53.280 fifty years old, you know, just terrorizing people. I bet 1:48:53.320 --> 1:48:56.519 you were, yeah, exactly, you know, guys um and again 1:48:56.920 --> 1:49:00.759 everybody at tom Board here, we've got to David Hellman 1:49:01.400 --> 1:49:04.320 and Dame Burgler, myself, Bryan brought us, and then Jeff 1:49:04.360 --> 1:49:06.000 kavan Off from one oh five three, Jeff and I 1:49:06.240 --> 1:49:08.280 and Katie are gonna put together our one oh five 1:49:08.360 --> 1:49:12.200 three the fan board tonight, so there'll be some battling 1:49:12.280 --> 1:49:14.200 going on at the Star for that with some of 1:49:14.240 --> 1:49:16.960 these names. I'm not looking forward to this because I 1:49:17.040 --> 1:49:18.920 have a feeling I know where this direction is gonna go. 1:49:19.479 --> 1:49:21.080 Just to kind of give you an idea too a 1:49:21.160 --> 1:49:24.720 little bit. This week, we've got the We got the 1:49:24.800 --> 1:49:28.360 draft completely covered for you guys. We encourage you. You know, 1:49:28.479 --> 1:49:30.960 they'll have it on TV and stuff. But well, we're 1:49:31.000 --> 1:49:34.040 gonna have it all three days. We're gonna we're gonna 1:49:34.080 --> 1:49:37.960 have it Thursday night, Friday nights, and Saturday all day. 1:49:37.960 --> 1:49:39.920 So we're gonna have all the picks. How many picks 1:49:39.960 --> 1:49:42.680 we got, two hundred and fifty four, two hundred fifty four, 1:49:42.760 --> 1:49:47.439 So we will have analysis of every pick by every team, 1:49:48.280 --> 1:49:50.040 the ones we like, the ones we don't like. We're 1:49:50.040 --> 1:49:53.840 gonna have guests and stuff at the at the Star. Yeah. 1:49:53.960 --> 1:49:56.519 Three of my favorite days of every year. Yeah, it's 1:49:56.600 --> 1:50:00.439 so much fun. I love what's the fourth one? Oh gosh, 1:50:00.520 --> 1:50:04.280 I mean that's Jena put this one, Yeah, the Giant Jena. Yeah, 1:50:04.560 --> 1:50:07.000 it's my three favorite days of the year that don't 1:50:07.040 --> 1:50:10.360 actually involve football being played. Put it that way. What 1:50:10.479 --> 1:50:13.080 I love about this draft is it's gonna be unpredictable. 1:50:13.120 --> 1:50:14.760 There's gonna be stuff going on in the first round 1:50:14.840 --> 1:50:17.200 that we don't see coming. And that's what makes it fun. 1:50:18.040 --> 1:50:21.320 No problem if I, you know, go over thirty two 1:50:21.320 --> 1:50:23.439 on my mock draft, fine with that. But you're one 1:50:23.479 --> 1:50:26.200 of the best. You and Daniel Jeremiah the NFL never 1:50:26.400 --> 1:50:29.640 two of the best mock drafts in the country. My 1:50:30.240 --> 1:50:32.640 percentage is gonna take a hit this year. So it 1:50:32.800 --> 1:50:35.840 is it's tough this year? Is it? Because is it 1:50:35.920 --> 1:50:39.679 the quarterbacks? You're worried about the quarterbacks? After say Kyler 1:50:39.760 --> 1:50:42.320 Murray goes one, who's the second quarterback off the board? 1:50:42.400 --> 1:50:44.720 And where does he go? What pick? Yeah? I mean 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:47.800 I think all four, Dwayne Haskins, Daniel Jones, Drew Locke, 1:50:47.920 --> 1:50:49.639 They're gonna come off the board in the top twenty 1:50:49.720 --> 1:50:53.080 twenty five picks. It's trying to figure out where's that 1:50:53.320 --> 1:50:56.439 landing spot gonna be. And I don't there's so there's 1:50:56.479 --> 1:50:58.840 no consensus. There's some teams that really like Drew Locke. 1:50:58.880 --> 1:51:01.200 I'm really like Daniel Jones, So I'm like Dwayne Haskins. 1:51:01.880 --> 1:51:06.880 It's just I've heard that those rumors. I'd be shocked 1:51:06.880 --> 1:51:09.800 if it happened. I just to me. I see Will Greer, 1:51:09.840 --> 1:51:11.559 and we taught me these quarterbacks. I see Will Griers 1:51:11.600 --> 1:51:14.840 being probably the most accurate of the throwers. He doesn't 1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:17.639 have the strongest arm, but I think he's really accurate. 1:51:17.960 --> 1:51:19.840 I don't think people are giving him enough credit for that. 1:51:20.080 --> 1:51:22.320 His issue is decision making like that. That's I just 1:51:22.360 --> 1:51:24.320 don't think he has the decision making to go in 1:51:24.360 --> 1:51:26.400 the first round. If you're if you're a fan of 1:51:26.520 --> 1:51:28.640 the Cowboys and you want to see the Giants take 1:51:28.680 --> 1:51:31.560 a quarterback? Which quarterback do you want to see them take? Realistically? 1:51:31.640 --> 1:51:35.360 Daniel Jones, Daniel freaking Jones? Right? You with one on 1:51:35.439 --> 1:51:38.640 Daniel Jones. Do you like Daniel Jones alive? Well? The 1:51:38.680 --> 1:51:40.920 problem is I kind of like all of them, and 1:51:41.040 --> 1:51:43.800 I don't like doing the I like to hate quarterbacks. 1:51:43.920 --> 1:51:46.200 Oh yeah, you'd like to hate me hating quarterbacks. I 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:49.000 had to. It took me a while to decide on 1:51:49.560 --> 1:51:51.600 my order, and I still don't feel great about it. 1:51:51.680 --> 1:51:59.920 But I've got Locke, Career and Jones all pretty similar. 1:52:00.280 --> 1:52:02.400 I think they're all good at different things, and I 1:52:02.439 --> 1:52:04.360 could see any one of them ending up being a 1:52:04.400 --> 1:52:08.720 good NFL quarterback depending on where they end up. I 1:52:08.760 --> 1:52:11.040 don't know which one I bet against the most. I 1:52:11.080 --> 1:52:13.400 think they're all coin flips. Tell me where they go, 1:52:13.800 --> 1:52:17.000 tell me how they're protected, and tell me who's coaching them. 1:52:17.640 --> 1:52:20.240 I don't have a dream guy for the Giants, and 1:52:20.320 --> 1:52:22.439 I'm like, ah, he won't make it. I could see 1:52:22.479 --> 1:52:24.640 Daniel Jones making it as an NFL quarterback, sure, I 1:52:24.720 --> 1:52:27.040 totally could, but he's in the Eli Manning mold though, 1:52:27.160 --> 1:52:30.479 you know, like where David Cutcliff the coach coach, right. Yeah, 1:52:32.040 --> 1:52:34.080 that's why we're hearing the Giants and Daniel Jones rumors 1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:36.560 because it just makes too much sense to following the 1:52:36.640 --> 1:52:39.360 Manning Manning way. But yeah, trying to figure out who 1:52:39.360 --> 1:52:41.320 these quarterbacks are gonna go is the toughest part. When 1:52:41.360 --> 1:52:43.840 you map out the first round, it's anybody's guess, and 1:52:43.880 --> 1:52:46.040 there's gonna be a trade somewhere early that's gonna throw 1:52:46.120 --> 1:52:48.080 off and break everyone's mock for the rest of the 1:52:48.160 --> 1:52:51.240 round exactly. And even that's trying to figure out is 1:52:51.240 --> 1:52:52.760 it gonna be the top ten is it gonna be? 1:52:53.120 --> 1:52:55.439 You know, I'd love to see the Bengals go after 1:52:55.479 --> 1:52:59.439 a Dwayne Haskins, you know, yeah, right, and he don't 1:52:59.520 --> 1:53:01.200 and he don't shown he's not taking this team to 1:53:01.240 --> 1:53:03.320 the super Bowl. You bring in a young quarterback like 1:53:03.400 --> 1:53:05.320 Dayne Haskins, let him sit on the bench for a 1:53:05.439 --> 1:53:09.479 year behind Andy Dalton. It makes sense. Yeah, but Miami 1:53:09.520 --> 1:53:12.360 Dolphins probably gonna wait till next year. That's what most 1:53:12.360 --> 1:53:14.720 people in the league believe is gonna happen. Washington, I'd 1:53:14.760 --> 1:53:18.160 be surprised that they've finished this draft weekend without a quarterback. 1:53:18.200 --> 1:53:20.519 A new quarterback now that could be Josh Rosen. Yeah, 1:53:20.520 --> 1:53:22.120 if I were them, it would be Josh ro Right. 1:53:22.240 --> 1:53:23.800 I mean, at least if the rumors are true about 1:53:23.840 --> 1:53:27.120 what it costs. If I'm picking and I can use 1:53:27.160 --> 1:53:29.320 my second round pick to get Josh Rosen, you can 1:53:29.400 --> 1:53:32.280 forget these first round quarterback twenty twenty second rounder and 1:53:32.320 --> 1:53:35.960 Case Keenum would get it done done. It's insane to me, 1:53:36.080 --> 1:53:38.479 how I know. You know, draft picks are like Case 1:53:38.560 --> 1:53:42.800 Keen played in four Cliff Kingsbury right at that, Houston, Right, Yeah, 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:45.680 draft picks are like cars. They lose value as soon 1:53:45.760 --> 1:53:48.599 as you pick them. But like the way that people 1:53:48.640 --> 1:53:53.639 have just cast Josh Rosen aside as being helpless is insane. 1:53:53.720 --> 1:53:55.519 And they did the same thing to Jared Goff. But 1:53:55.600 --> 1:53:57.479 the thing is with Josh Rosen. If he doesn't but 1:53:57.600 --> 1:53:59.160 even going back to last year, if he doesn't go 1:53:59.320 --> 1:54:02.200 what nine over our ten overall to the Cardinals, where's 1:54:02.240 --> 1:54:05.360 he go? You know? Like I just think back, it's 1:54:05.400 --> 1:54:07.080 hard to figure out because not everyone had a first 1:54:07.160 --> 1:54:09.439 round grade on him, um, and so I thought he 1:54:09.520 --> 1:54:14.360 was Matt Ryan. He still could be. That's my points. 1:54:14.400 --> 1:54:17.080 What happened to Jeff's guy when when the coach showed 1:54:17.160 --> 1:54:20.240 up at the Rams so exactly that's I would love 1:54:20.320 --> 1:54:23.280 to think Rosen can't play because he was bad for 1:54:23.520 --> 1:54:26.160 on the worst team in football that has no clue 1:54:26.200 --> 1:54:28.120 what they're doing and has no talent. That would be 1:54:28.880 --> 1:54:31.639 I would be I would be much If we're thinking 1:54:31.640 --> 1:54:33.720 about this from a Cowboys standpoint, I would be much 1:54:33.800 --> 1:54:37.680 more afraid of New York or Washington parting ways with 1:54:37.800 --> 1:54:40.320 a second round pick to put him on their team 1:54:40.640 --> 1:54:43.120 then taking a chance on Daniel Chef. You're the Cowboys. Sure, 1:54:43.240 --> 1:54:45.080 if you had the Cowboys, you had your twenty seventh pick. 1:54:45.120 --> 1:54:47.960 Would you trade it for Josh ros Oh gosh, why 1:54:48.000 --> 1:54:49.880 are we You don't Why don't want to do that? 1:54:52.520 --> 1:54:54.760 I'm just asking for me? Is yes, but it just 1:54:54.920 --> 1:55:00.200 makes people mad. It does man that I don't don't 1:55:00.200 --> 1:55:02.720 have an answer to that, like because you know not 1:55:02.880 --> 1:55:06.480 to make people mad. You're smarter than me. Purely from 1:55:06.560 --> 1:55:09.640 like an analytics standpoint, I probably would yes, because Josh 1:55:09.760 --> 1:55:12.280 Rosen in twenty five million dollars for the next three years. 1:55:12.480 --> 1:55:17.440 The savings would allow you to build a much deeper roster. 1:55:17.720 --> 1:55:19.560 I think he can be pretty good. But at the 1:55:19.640 --> 1:55:23.640 same time, like teams don't do that, teams don't go 1:55:23.760 --> 1:55:25.160 away from it. But this is the one team that 1:55:25.200 --> 1:55:26.920 should do that right because they don't. They have a 1:55:26.960 --> 1:55:28.960 general manager that's not gonna get fired. At the same 1:55:29.120 --> 1:55:30.960 but you got to think about it from another standpoint too, 1:55:31.360 --> 1:55:32.800 this is a team that can't afford to do that 1:55:32.880 --> 1:55:34.960 in the sense of how many Dak Prescott jerseys have 1:55:35.000 --> 1:55:38.240 been sold over the last three years. You already sold 1:55:38.400 --> 1:55:42.560 do keep selling that stuff? Rosen One's a brand new 1:55:42.600 --> 1:55:44.200 no one has one yet, and nobody's going to be 1:55:44.240 --> 1:55:46.720 excited about until he starts winning games. So win games. 1:55:47.080 --> 1:55:50.040 What if he doesn't, that's the point, and everybody gets fired. 1:55:50.120 --> 1:55:55.160 I think it is a gamble that nobody has the 1:55:55.280 --> 1:55:58.360 guts to make, including me, until teams start getting the 1:55:58.400 --> 1:56:00.640 guts and I can't wait, someone someone will do it. 1:56:00.720 --> 1:56:02.600 Then it'll be a you know, we never thought a 1:56:02.600 --> 1:56:05.440 six foot quarterback can go number one overall, Baker Mayfield did. No, 1:56:05.480 --> 1:56:06.880 all of a sudden, we're gonna have a five eleven 1:56:07.000 --> 1:56:11.200 quarterback that's being generous, go number one overall, Cala Murray. 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:14.280 So like there a day is coming where teams are 1:56:14.320 --> 1:56:17.880 going to start viewing quarterbacks as expendable assets, but it's 1:56:17.920 --> 1:56:21.160 not here yet. Like I keep saying, the Cowboys are 1:56:21.160 --> 1:56:23.360 the one team that can do that because again, these 1:56:23.400 --> 1:56:25.680 other general managers are trying to pay for their lake houses. 1:56:26.440 --> 1:56:29.040 You know, this guy's lake house already paid for and 1:56:29.160 --> 1:56:31.720 then something and he's not Yeah, he's not going anywhere. Yeah, 1:56:31.760 --> 1:56:33.480 But that's why, that's why this team would be the 1:56:33.600 --> 1:56:36.360 example for your right if you had enough confidence that 1:56:36.440 --> 1:56:38.960 you could pick quarterbacks. Who puts you or think about 1:56:38.960 --> 1:56:41.040 it from Jerry's standpoint, who puts you closer to winning 1:56:41.040 --> 1:56:43.320 a Super Bowl? Right now? Like in the next three years, 1:56:44.480 --> 1:56:46.840 is it, Dak or Josh Rosen? Rosen and twenty five 1:56:46.840 --> 1:56:49.120 million dollars in cap space? Twenty five million dollars in 1:56:49.160 --> 1:56:51.040 cap space that you can't spend until next You said 1:56:51.080 --> 1:56:55.200 three years? Though, true, I can carry it over right, 1:56:56.560 --> 1:56:58.440 keep you. You had to just you had to take 1:56:58.480 --> 1:57:00.160 us down this No, no, no, we're talking about the 1:57:00.240 --> 1:57:03.320 last couple of weeks. I've just said if you I'm 1:57:03.360 --> 1:57:08.280 just saying, if the Cowboys had the pick, would you 1:57:08.320 --> 1:57:12.520 do it for fifty eight? Then? Why would you do 1:57:12.640 --> 1:57:15.360 this eight minutes before the show? I'm just asking. It's 1:57:15.360 --> 1:57:18.240 just a question because teams are having to determine if 1:57:18.240 --> 1:57:20.000 they're good what what what do you? What would you 1:57:20.040 --> 1:57:22.000 give up for Josh Rosen? That's gonna be the question. 1:57:22.240 --> 1:57:24.000 What if you had Josh Rosen as a top five 1:57:24.040 --> 1:57:27.000 player on your board? But again, how many teams like 1:57:27.200 --> 1:57:28.680 love him or hate him? How many teams have a 1:57:28.760 --> 1:57:31.040 quarterback that's that's taken him in the playoffs twice in 1:57:31.120 --> 1:57:33.720 three years? Oh no, there's nothing. I mean, Dak, I'm 1:57:33.720 --> 1:57:35.480 a big fan of deck. I'm just saying, though, if 1:57:35.480 --> 1:57:38.040 you're a team looking at your and you and and 1:57:38.200 --> 1:57:40.720 the and the Arizona Cardinals are giving you a chance 1:57:40.760 --> 1:57:43.320 to upgrade your quarterback. If you thought, I mean I would. 1:57:43.720 --> 1:57:45.480 I think you have to look at those things, don't you? 1:57:45.920 --> 1:57:49.320 How long into his all right, let's say this, let's 1:57:49.320 --> 1:57:51.720 say this were to happen. How long into his Dallas? 1:57:51.880 --> 1:57:54.720 Sorry Dan? How long into his Dallas tenure? Does it 1:57:54.800 --> 1:57:57.680 take Josh Rosen to be better than Dak Prescott based 1:57:57.760 --> 1:58:01.080 on decks QBR last year? Based on what? Maybe one year? 1:58:02.080 --> 1:58:05.200 Maybe one? All right? Maybe we don't know. I mean, 1:58:05.240 --> 1:58:07.480 we can't teleport the guys, but we don't know. And 1:58:07.560 --> 1:58:09.600 that's why nobody does it, because it would take a 1:58:09.720 --> 1:58:12.240 lot of cojones to say you have three years of 1:58:12.320 --> 1:58:15.520 club control over Rosen, two of which you're at an 1:58:15.680 --> 1:58:20.240 extremely affordable price. One is at a moderately affordable price. Verse. 1:58:21.240 --> 1:58:23.640 I'm trying to find the value of Josh Rosen here. 1:58:24.160 --> 1:58:26.600 To somebody, I can't believe it's not a first round 1:58:26.720 --> 1:58:28.880 The value of Josh Rosen is a second round pick. Yeah, 1:58:28.920 --> 1:58:31.000 it should be a first but again that's not what 1:58:31.480 --> 1:58:34.000 as soon as you get drafted, you lose value. It's dumb, 1:58:34.080 --> 1:58:37.720 but it's true. Josh Rosen's values what someone's willing to pay, 1:58:38.520 --> 1:58:41.720 that's it. And if all someone's willing to pay the 1:58:41.760 --> 1:58:44.320 second round or then that's if you're If you're Steve 1:58:44.400 --> 1:58:46.320 Kime in Arizona, are you gonna be stubborn about this? 1:58:46.360 --> 1:58:49.000 Are you gonna take the Giants second round pick? What's 1:58:49.040 --> 1:58:50.920 your leverage? You gotta get rid of him. If you're 1:58:50.920 --> 1:58:52.720 going to draft Kyler Murray, you gotta get him off 1:58:52.760 --> 1:58:55.160 that roster. Now. I would not be surprised if Kyler 1:58:55.240 --> 1:58:57.360 Murray or if Josh Rosen is still on the roster 1:58:57.640 --> 1:58:59.760 after draft weekend. I would not be surprised by that. 1:59:00.040 --> 1:59:01.840 And Josh Rosen's just kind of in limbo for a 1:59:01.880 --> 1:59:04.120 little bit. If they want to go next year one, 1:59:04.200 --> 1:59:06.200 somebody gets next year's one, well that's not going to happen. 1:59:06.240 --> 1:59:09.879 But they're being an injury so Bradford deal exactly, Teddy Bridgewater. 1:59:09.920 --> 1:59:11.640 I mean, they're gonna wait for someone to get injured 1:59:11.760 --> 1:59:13.760 and then they're gonna make a move. I still don't 1:59:13.800 --> 1:59:15.560 think it'll be for a first rounder. Isn't that? But 1:59:15.880 --> 1:59:17.880 is going to three something like that? Is that gamble 1:59:17.920 --> 1:59:21.080 worth taking? Like? Won't that be weird for everyone involved? 1:59:21.200 --> 1:59:23.680 It will be very weird in Arizonas. Yeah, it's worth 1:59:23.680 --> 1:59:25.720 it if you think that Kyler Murray's a better quarterback 1:59:25.760 --> 1:59:28.160 than Josh Rosen. No, but let's say, like, what if 1:59:28.200 --> 1:59:30.560 nobody gets hurt, What if nobody's willing to do that deal, 1:59:30.600 --> 1:59:33.720 they take what you can get. Yeah, Yeah, it's really 1:59:33.760 --> 1:59:37.000 it's it's it is an unprecedented situation. Yeah, it's nothing 1:59:37.080 --> 1:59:39.200 has ever happened like this where a team's gonna draft 1:59:39.200 --> 1:59:42.040 a quarterback top ten back to back years and they 1:59:42.120 --> 1:59:44.680 fired their coach chapter one year too. I've got I 1:59:44.840 --> 1:59:47.360 have I've never met Steve Kime, I have no beef 1:59:47.440 --> 1:59:52.040 with him. I bet he would and calling uber afterwards. 1:59:52.120 --> 1:59:55.480 But I'm kind of shocked that he's got a job 1:59:55.600 --> 1:59:57.840 given the situation the Cardinals are in right now. Yeah, 1:59:57.880 --> 2:00:00.640 and just remember the Cardinals, the way they operate. The 2:00:00.760 --> 2:00:03.720 owner has a lot of saying what happens. Yeah, and 2:00:04.200 --> 2:00:06.360 that's part of the reason why I think Kyler Murray 2:00:06.560 --> 2:00:08.680 is going to be the pick aside from Cliff Kingsbury. 2:00:09.120 --> 2:00:13.720 But the opportunity to sell jerseys, put butts and seats 2:00:13.800 --> 2:00:16.640 eyeballs on your football team, Kyler Murray's gonna do that. 2:00:16.840 --> 2:00:19.000 Josh Rosen is not going to do that. And that's 2:00:19.080 --> 2:00:21.000 why you know Michael Bidwell is going to be a 2:00:21.360 --> 2:00:24.240 big part of decision making for the Cardinals. So that's 2:00:24.280 --> 2:00:25.480 why I think Kyler Murray is going to be the 2:00:25.520 --> 2:00:27.640 top pick. That's all the time we have for today. 2:00:27.640 --> 2:00:30.200 How about that we just ruin everything in the last no. 2:00:30.320 --> 2:00:31.600 I was just trying to I was just trying to 2:00:31.640 --> 2:00:33.440 find value in uh. I was just trying to find 2:00:33.520 --> 2:00:35.880 value in the quarterback. I'd just like to apologize for 2:00:35.960 --> 2:00:38.720 the last five minutes. Okay, very sorry. Wait did you 2:00:38.800 --> 2:00:41.200 did you get a big that guy? I hope that 2:00:41.400 --> 2:00:44.040 gets five hundred million in a lake house. Five hundred 2:00:44.080 --> 2:00:46.920 million is a lot big. Well, I'd settle for one 2:00:47.200 --> 2:00:50.080 sixty five. Well, we want we want to thank everybody 2:00:50.120 --> 2:00:52.160 here at Jakinson's for putting up with us for the 2:00:52.240 --> 2:00:54.879 last couple hours. I want to especially thank Ken Garrison 2:00:55.440 --> 2:00:58.440 for setting everything up for us today. 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