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Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys on

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Speaker 1: the bour war Room for Incenter news and draft analysis,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Elliott and now your hosts Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, it must be

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Speaker 1: getting close to draft time because they let us out

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Speaker 1: of the office to do one of our road shows.

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Speaker 1: And uh, as the Big Boys guy said, you have

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Speaker 1: the draft show it is. Brian brought us, Dame Burglar,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman and we've got Jeff kavanot Hill join us

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on here in the program. Boys,

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Speaker 1: how's it feel to be out on the road. It

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Speaker 1: feels good to have it be draft week? How about that?

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about that too. And as I mentioned, we're

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Speaker 1: out here at Shakerton's right, Dave, Yes, Shakerton's in the colony.

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Speaker 1: If you're in the Dallas Fort Worth area. We're here

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Speaker 1: till seven o'clock. They got special giveaways and prizes the

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Speaker 1: whole time. We're here excited about that. This used to

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Speaker 1: be my This Shue is my stomping grounds. Me and

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Speaker 1: Dane we were across the street. Yeah, I have to

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Speaker 1: venture over here quite a bit nice little area over here,

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Speaker 1: lively little area here. Absolutely five minutes south of us. Absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if you're in the area, come on buy and

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Speaker 1: see us. We got plenty of Miller light here for

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Speaker 1: you facts and we're enjoying ourselves. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: some draft talk today. Of course. What I want to do,

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Speaker 1: guys is I'd like to get into the Cowboys. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to do a seven round mock draft, at least

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Speaker 1: for the first hour of the program. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: I'd like to be able to get into that and

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Speaker 1: kind of give folks an idea of what names might

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Speaker 1: be there at fifty eight and then at ninety and

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Speaker 1: then as we go through this draft, I want to

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Speaker 1: be able to talk about if we need to move up,

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Speaker 1: do we need to move back, do we need This

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Speaker 1: is something that we annually do every year on the

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Speaker 1: Draft show. We thought so, I thought it'd be a

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Speaker 1: good opportunity to take it out in front of a

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Speaker 1: with that being said, I always turned the draft over

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Speaker 1: to Dane Brugler, and Dane kind of explained the ground

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Speaker 1: rules of what you got going in this draft and

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Speaker 1: how we're going to follow the draft. Well, obviously this

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Speaker 1: year is a little different. No first rump pick so

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, So first round we'll be watching. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but it really doesn't matter for yeah, watching being the

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Speaker 1: keyword exactly. Really, it's gonna be what safeties are off

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Speaker 1: the board in the first thirty two picks, right close

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Speaker 1: long thornhill sneaking in the top thirty two. Okay, that'll

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Speaker 1: be something we're watching for because as we begin day

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Speaker 1: two then starts things start to get more interesting. And

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Speaker 1: as we watch, safeties want to watch for people that

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Speaker 1: fall too right exactly who gets pushed onto day two

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Speaker 1: of the draft? Someone that uh, you know, a Montest

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Speaker 1: sweat is someone that's been in the news this week

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Speaker 1: because of the heart condition. Yeah, I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: fallen that far. No, I don't think so either the

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Speaker 1: teams that we've talked to. It's it's a concern, but

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Speaker 1: not something that should be a free fall. It's not

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Speaker 1: people have all I've asked me about Jeffrey Simmons from

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State as being another guy who had to do

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Speaker 1: day in this day in age Acls. You feel good

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to come back, but still, everybody's

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Speaker 1: But he was a guy when we started this process

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Speaker 1: they have not shown any interest in Deontay Thompson at all,

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Speaker 1: interest in Deontay Thompson. Could that be one big uh,

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Speaker 1: But it's a long shot. I don't think Deontay Thompson

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Speaker 1: interesting to see what safeties fall or how many safeties

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Speaker 1: those reasons, there's a good chance he could sneak into

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Speaker 1: the Byron Jones situation. Absolutely Seattle pick twenty one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there there's two hurdles that I think that he has

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Speaker 1: About a guy who teams really alike. He's undersized. So

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Speaker 1: Thornhill or Adderlei or Savage as that potential guy both, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Thornhill Senior Bowl combine workouts and those things matter. Whereas

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Speaker 1: of a sudden we could be talking about one Thornhill

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Speaker 1: one reason or another. Yeah, you know, maybe maybe Savage

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Speaker 1: Sin from Temple could absolutely be him. And what order

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Speaker 1: really will be fascinating these DB's as a whole to

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Speaker 1: then work our way down through this Cowboys seven round

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Speaker 1: mock trap. Sounds good? Okay. So for this purpose is

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Speaker 1: if you like bigger names off the board, maybe that

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Speaker 1: we would consider falling to fifty eight. Okay, LJ. Colliers

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Speaker 1: off the board. He went thirty five to the Raiders. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we lose a defensive end there. Yeah, the safeties

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Speaker 1: that we were just talking about, na see her add

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Speaker 1: Early and Jonathan Abraham both off the board. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: far top forty safeties. Okay, who else we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about it as possibilities. Jeffrey Simmons has gone thirty two

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Speaker 1: to the Patriots. Um so starting at forty one, that's

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Speaker 1: where Darnell Savage goes. So another safety off the board. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So so okay, let's let's okay re read. Okay, sound

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Speaker 1: like to me, you've already said, what three safeties off

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Speaker 1: the board? First safety off the board? Right? But none

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Speaker 1: of the ones that like devastate me, you know, because

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Speaker 1: I gave up on those dreams a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Okay, but does that make us

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Speaker 1: think about now maybe having to trade up in this

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Speaker 1: to plan so far? Okay, Like, didn't we give up

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Speaker 1: on Abraham a while ago? I think? So, yeah, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: resign some of them. Amari Cooper will be here, Dak

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Speaker 1: major contributor and let me frame it this way. Last year,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're getting a little bit better wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: I'm saying unless there's something crazy going on like you know,

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Speaker 1: if it's you know, this crazy talent. Okay, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: he was going he was right, I mean, no disrespect,

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Speaker 1: no shade intended to wand Thornhill. But is he that

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Speaker 1: is rap. Yeah, that's the one guy, and maybe he's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit. I'm gonna sit right now and see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now I'm gonna entertain this. This thing gets down to

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's how I feel. Okay, so we'd have to

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Speaker 1: we're gonna sit right now as we speak, We're gonna sit,

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Speaker 1: yeah and watch the fifty and eight picks to get

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Speaker 1: a turkey sandwich in a Miller light right now. So

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Speaker 1: we help you out with one of those. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Justin Lane's off the board. Dalan Reisener's off the board. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's focus. So we just lost here, linebacker from Alabama,

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Speaker 1: we're still okay, We're still okay. And then we lost Reisener,

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Speaker 1: of our safeties. Gardner Johnson's off the board. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: Atlanta taken one of our safeties. Okay, Now let's reset

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Speaker 1: and think about what safeties we still have on the board.

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Speaker 1: Safeties that are still available. Taylor Raphill, we just talked

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Speaker 1: we're good. We're in good shape right now. We're still

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Speaker 1: got thirteen picks to us, right, that's right. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: let's go. Let's keep going. Okay. DeAndre Bakers off the board. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's onner from Georgia. A Keen Butler watership Iowa State. Okay, Carolina, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Sean Bunting corner from Central Chigan, a really good player.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of right. Risen up the boards here, I

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Speaker 1: mean the word fifth and sticky, Yeah, sticky player and

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Speaker 1: Uh Browns of forty nine take Taylor rap Ah, there's

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Speaker 1: want to consider all the options. So forty nine, that's

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Speaker 1: a trade of nine spots, right, how much does that cost?

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Speaker 1: It's gonna cost us one of our four? It's gonna

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Speaker 1: cost you think you could do that for a fourth round?

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Speaker 1: Think we could do it for work? Were COMPENSI you

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Speaker 1: have for our own four? Is what we'd have to do.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to, assuming the Browns are dead set on

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Speaker 1: rap You'd have to trade to forty eight, though, wouldn't you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So a jump of ten spots, you think pick one?

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Speaker 1: Think before do that one twenty six gets ten spots.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either. I think it

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Speaker 1: be a team that's interested in Baylin. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm the closer you get picking Miami Dolphins. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a new general manager there, Chris Greer collected picks

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Speaker 1: and offer Chris that and see if it works. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, though, we're still gonna have to give her three.

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Speaker 1: four is a late four. It's who did the Dolphins? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your top forty. I don't know, man, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's claws. Okay, it's not gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Say if they don't want to take that, then let's

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Speaker 1: keep moving. Yeah, let's keep moving here. Then. I just

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Speaker 1: don't want people to think we didn't fight for Taylor

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Speaker 1: rap Ye, just trying to cover our bases Minnesota Draymond

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Speaker 1: Jones fifty one. All right, that's where wan Thorn Hills

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Speaker 1: So we lost our safety at we were seven spots

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Speaker 1: from us. Yes, we've determined that we didn't. We weren't.

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Speaker 1: We weren't gonna move. I don't think one eight would

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Speaker 1: for you. Yep. Jerry didn't want to give up a

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Speaker 1: third for Paxton. See I didn't. I didn't want I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to give up the third either. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was thinking, Okay, maybe maybe I

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Speaker 1: just want picks, you know that kind of thing. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that a pipe dream? You know it? We'll look what

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Speaker 1: Dallas did that time when they dropped a gut. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Travis fred they got they got worked on the deal.

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Speaker 1: They had it. They should have given it. They should

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Speaker 1: a third. Yeah, so sometimes you could get but then

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Speaker 1: that was an eighteen player or an eighteen spot drop.

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Speaker 1: All due respect to the organization, wouldn't most people agree

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Speaker 1: Let me bring jeff Cavanaugh in from A one or

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Speaker 1: five three the fan. Jeffrey, we sat here and determined

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Speaker 1: that we we're just gonna sit this thing out. You

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Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't hear that they're picking six spots away

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Speaker 1: from the end of the second round. Like I was

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Speaker 1: over here trying to get my guys scream you want

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Speaker 1: to get rid of the third round pick. No, we

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Speaker 1: did the right thing. We're great. Okay, you think you

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Speaker 1: think by just sitting there though you did the right thing.

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Speaker 1: I should should should the Cowboys have offered the third

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It's strange because I talked to Steven and

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Speaker 1: I would rather go up for rap Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: feel like it fits better and I just have him

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Speaker 1: grated better pay. Not the three, okay, not the three

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Speaker 1: that We're just gonna wait and pick a guy. Don

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Speaker 1: I now call him a coward? Or do I call

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Speaker 1: myself a coward for not doing that? Everything in two

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Speaker 1: good players. Everything's black and white with you, Like you

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Speaker 1: a coward, you know, like that's no. I cost us

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to maybe get a guy. Now you have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to get two guys. Okay, it's fine, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay, it's gonna think so yeah, yeah, all

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Speaker 1: right at safety now, yeah, but we're wiped out at safety,

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Speaker 1: so it's not to reset the board. Okay, how many

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Speaker 1: players did you watch Dame total? Yeah? God, I don't

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Speaker 1: know a thousand. Surely there's a safety somewhere. Yeah. We

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Speaker 1: we fist pumped about a sixth round safety two years

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Speaker 1: ago starting for the Cowboys. Now, okay, true, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're sitting at fifty one. We just lost Thornhill. I've

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Speaker 1: thrown my pin for you know, half a dozen guy,

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I've thrown my pin. So now let's sit

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Speaker 1: and see where we get. Let's see what players are

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Speaker 1: Bill will for us at fifty eight, start at fifty two?

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Speaker 1: Please some players off the board. It's one of bitch,

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Speaker 1: that's your guy right there. Okay, Now that that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Polite got to you right and all that he's a

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Speaker 1: top fifteen talent, that's probably top fifteen tape, top fifteen tape. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Was that something that you guys would have hoped for

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Speaker 1: I would have with the names that we're kicking around

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Speaker 1: at fifty eight. I think he has considerably better tape

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Speaker 1: than the ends that we're gonna kick around a fifty

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Speaker 1: eight tape, there's no there's no question. But when you

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Speaker 1: he gonna sound like Dave? Wow? Thanks? Thanks man? As

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Speaker 1: I take a poll on my miller, is he gonna

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Speaker 1: put it all together and reach his potential? That's and

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Speaker 1: at fifty three. Now go ahead, Uh see Elgin's Jenkins

423
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: the center from Mississippi State. That's a great spot for him,

424
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: by the way, if he doesn't go earlier than now, yeah,

425
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's a steal at that point for the Texans.

426
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson a corner we've talked about, Okay, Chris Richard

427
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: went and worked Isaiah Johnson out. It's early. You think

428
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 1: it's early on him. No, he's going, He's going. That's early.

429
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: If you're wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's let's why.

430
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: Why is he early? Because his tape's not that good?

431
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 1: What do you not like about his tape that he

432
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to play corner? You think it because

433
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: of the positions. I mean that maybe some of his

434
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: tackle attempts look like it's his first game. Oh, his

435
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: tackling is driving, And I get it. I get it.

436
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: I get the athleticism in the size and betton On,

437
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: as Jerry would say, betton On, the come if you're

438
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: gonna do that in the second round, God, that's just

439
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: that's early to me. I'm not saying it won't happen. Thanks,

440
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: probably right, it probably will. I wouldn't want it to

441
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: be my team. Okay, so we're at fifty four, right, Yeah,

442
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: when you're six two and thirty three in jarms as

443
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 1: a corner and you run four four zero, you're just

444
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna go high. Yes, that's kind of the rules. Absolutely.

445
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: Uh see IERF. Smith to the Patriots. Wow, oh you

446
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: almost made it. Almost made it? Okay, Now let's ask

447
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: about that real quick. Tight end is a position would

448
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: you have considered with the safeties all being gone? Would

449
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: you have considered a tight end at fifty eight? Or

450
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: is that too rich for you? Guys? IRV Smith almost

451
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: made it to you there, and that was to me

452
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: a high second round kind of a guy. Right, all right,

453
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: I know that drafts are about three years and not one,

454
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: but I'm going to break that golden rule and say,

455
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: what's the tight end doing on this team in twenty nineteen?

456
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: Fair question? The thing that you you just don't trust

457
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: the coaches. No, you don't trust the coaches to use

458
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: the second round tight end. That's that's your issue. Right?

459
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: Is he taking Jason Witten off the field? Probably not?

460
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: Is he gonna know more about the ins and outs

461
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 1: of the offense than the two guys that have been

462
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: here longer? Than that. With this way, you don't get

463
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: a draft to tight end at all with that attitude. Basically, yeah,

464
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: selling Dad, what if Hawkinson makes Hawkinson makes it, and

465
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: then we can talk, all right, Well, Smith, he's one

466
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: of the youngest players in this draft. He didn't turned

467
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: twenty one until like August. We drafted Jason Witten when

468
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: he was twenty one years old. You know what I

469
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: don't want to do in third round by the don't

470
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: want to be sitting in the press box in Gillette

471
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Stadium in November writing a story about how IRV Smith

472
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: is inactive because they don't have the spare him. Instead,

473
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: instead he's going to the Patriots. You can be right

474
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: about fine, are you writing about how he had two

475
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 1: hundred yards? That's fine? But that just I know it

476
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: goes against the cardinal rule of drafting. But just worry

477
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: about that later when Jason Witten has retired, whether and

478
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: Hale maybe he'll play another year, but like, just stop,

479
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: just worry about that when the time. So if Jason

480
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Witten was not on this team, you would be if

481
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, yeah, he would be inclined to take Smith.

482
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled to do so. Okay, because I would

483
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: pencil him in. But they tell us that that he

484
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: that Jason Witten is not going to be a roadblock

485
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: to them drafting a tight end. So you don't believe

486
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: them in that. No, they like their answer. I don't

487
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: have it the quote written down verbatim, but like at

488
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: their pre draft press conference, like they were kind of like, yeah,

489
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: Jason Witten helped us alleviate some of that concern. Like

490
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: they feel fine about that right now. And you know what,

491
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: that's cool because next year Jarwin will still be here,

492
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: Schultzi still be here. You could sign a free agent

493
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: to be your band aid if you want to, and

494
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: then you can use the first round pick on a

495
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: tight end. That's that's what I want to do. Who

496
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: were the next tight ends at I? Because that's what

497
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: we want? Yeah, whoever? Whoever did I? And when we

498
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: get now these two grab those guys. They have a

499
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: good idea. Who about those tight ends? Okay, we're at

500
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: fifty fifty seven Philadelphia to pick before Okay, the Philadelphia

501
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: Eagles are on the client. This is always in. Philadelphia

502
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: has had two picks, right. There's there's teams who had

503
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: multiple picks in front of Dallas. The Houston Texans have

504
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: multiple picks Philly, and Philly has multiple picks. Here at

505
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: fifty seven, they're going Joe one, Williams corner another. Yea,

506
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: they say, I just I don't want Brian to be happy.

507
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. Okay, Yeah, Brian's just too obsessed

508
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: with this guy. He went at fifty seven to Philadelphia

509
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: one pick ahead. How is that? How is that? Because

510
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna fight for him at

511
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: fifty eight when it got there, I was gonna ask,

512
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: why are we not drafting him too? Honestly, I would

513
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: I would do that for whatever it's w Would you

514
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: be in for Williams at fifty eight? Okay, we're gonna

515
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: have to go to the other name. We're about to

516
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: have a disc likely, I would say, no, Okay, I

517
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: don't I know the answer to this question. But you

518
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: wanted that attorney. You wanted that long tall corner from Houston,

519
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: who I didn't know. He didn't Okay, So you have

520
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: something against the long tall corners. Uh. Not, necessarily, It

521
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: depends on who they are. The long tall corner like

522
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: over six four, how many of those are in the league?

523
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: Getting good one not many sure is that it? And

524
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: even he I think he was six zo two, like

525
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: seven or something. He ran four or five five though

526
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: the same as what Williams run. Would this be the

527
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: first six four it's ever been good? I don't know

528
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: if Browner was six four, but he was pretty You

529
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: might have been six three Joe one six h three five,

530
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: so he's pretty close. He just looks like a man

531
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: out there playing. Saw that and then you say that,

532
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: You say the Georgia game, and I'll go, okay, everybody's

533
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: had one game with a The Georgia Game shows exactly

534
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: why you like him, exactly why he should scare you

535
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: because he got beat in that game. But there are

536
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: also plays where he made some plays. So he's a

537
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: guy that There's gonna be ups and downs. It's gonna

538
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: be a roller coaster with Joe one william Once a

539
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: receiver gains a step, it's over, but he doesn't let

540
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: you get off the line. If he if he wins

541
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: in press and his jam technique is right, he will win.

542
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: It's a big if. I think we have gone way

543
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: too far with corners. We think corners got to be

544
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: six foot three, while we now have receivers that are

545
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: now six foot they're not six four anymore. We're done

546
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: chasing after every six foot four receiver. We're not draft

547
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: all the separators, but our corners are going to be

548
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: out here to fight Plexico Buris. Yeah, yeah, thanks. It's

549
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: usually how the NFL works. The offenses do something, the

550
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: defense is trying to catch up, and a lot of defense.

551
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Let's see if your mind changes now with the guys

552
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: that we're going to have on our board, because we're

553
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: on the clock now right, we're on the clock, us

554
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: bunting make it no, no, he way gone early. Yeah.

555
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Really here at fifty eight, and we're taking into consideration

556
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: who the cowboys who they like realistic possibilities here, it's

557
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: looking like two players really ending out. Tristan Hill, defensive

558
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: tackle from UCF N Ferguson are stiff pass rusher from

559
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech. Okay, pass who's calling to somebody? Okay, we

560
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: gotta stand in there and make a pick. We gotta

561
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: call somebody. No, we gotta stand in there and make

562
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: a pick. Oh, it's so rich for both of them. See,

563
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: this is what happens. Though. We were talking about moving Yeah,

564
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean we're we were we were dying because we

565
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up a third round pick me.

566
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, now this is what

567
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: you're you're you're looking at. I know, I know a

568
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: name that visited the Cowboys that hasn't been drafted. Please

569
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: save me Debo. Oh it's Debo available, tebos available. I

570
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: would run it available, I'd run it in. I don't

571
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys would. I am the king of the

572
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: drum beaters for Debo. That's why I brought it up.

573
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: But I just think you're crazy to intentionally leave the

574
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: best player on your board. And maybe he's not for them,

575
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: but for me. That wouldn't be close between those three.

576
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: But when I pull them Okay, if we're talking about

577
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: them though, that's we're talking about this. So this mock draft,

578
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't have to actually put my name on it

579
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: like Jeff did this. It's this what the Cowboys would do.

580
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: This is what this is what this is. Okay, we

581
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: just got wiped out. We just got wiped out. I'm celebrating.

582
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: I got Debot. I had the best raft. Okay, you

583
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: were going into this DRAFTS fifty eight all the way

584
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: thinking about Debo. I'm dreaming of him absolutely deaf for

585
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Is embarrassing it well, good route running, tough,

586
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: surehanded wide receivers. Yes, watch Baker up. Yeah, it's yeah, Okay,

587
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I I would love it. I don't

588
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: I really. I'll be showing they're not taking a wide

589
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: receiver at fifty eight, I'll be shocked if it's anything

590
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: other than a defender. They're holding out hope for a

591
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: safety and they will settle for a defensive line. Okay,

592
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: that can break again if you want. Yeah, well you

593
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: get yeah, I mean you get steal it if you

594
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: want to. For bringing a reason to the table. But okay,

595
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: so we're we're not going to take a wide receiver

596
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: because our three starters, we feel like, are pretty intrenched.

597
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: But we will take like I think where this is

598
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna leads to us taking Jay when Ferguson to go

599
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: back up DeMarcus Lawrence and Robert Quinn. We're gonna intentionally

600
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: take an inferior player so that he can take twenty

601
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: percent of the steps. What's wrong with what's wrong with Hills?

602
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: Gonna say, Triston Hill, He's right there? Do you trust

603
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: you trust Collins? No? Okay, you ask me right now,

604
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: who the pick will be for the Cowboys in you know,

605
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: seventy two hours. I think it'll be Tristan Hill. I

606
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: think he is the most real. Wasn't hated at least

607
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm the second round. He's a good player. I wouldn't

608
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: hate it, No, I would hate leaving a better player

609
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: on the board. Like for me, Triston Hill would probably

610
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: be a top sixty five player and Deebo Samuel will

611
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: be a top thirty five player. Okay, so to me,

612
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: that's a terrible pick, but that's my ranking of players

613
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: right leaving future offensive rookie of the you're Ebo Samuel

614
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: out of it. Let's okay, let's if we're going to

615
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: assume that Ferguson and Hill are two realistic options, who

616
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: will be there? Break that? Break that choice down for me,

617
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: like I got I got one Ferguson at sixty six

618
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: on my board, a top one hundred. Honestly, you got him,

619
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: you got him stack, I got him touch. I mean,

620
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: so forget how you got him graded. But at fifty

621
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: eight you should have ten twelve better players. Tell me

622
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do? Oh, I mean, I yeah, I mean,

623
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about what they I mean, I'm talking

624
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: about what they would do, you know, and they'll tell

625
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: us on They'll tell us on Friday Night that they

626
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: had Ferguson ranked thirty fifth. So I don't even worry

627
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, tell me what they would do for

628
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? What What would Jayleen Ferguson do? What would

629
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill? Do? You got that one, scout? Jayleen Ferguson's

630
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna be competing against Dorn's Armstrong, Taco Charlton, and Tyrone

631
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: Crawford to just get on the field right as a rookie,

632
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: and Triston Hill will rotate with Mollie Collins at the three.

633
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: So you're telling me Triston Hill has a bigger chance

634
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: to make an impact right away. That's right, I think.

635
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, even though he's a young player

636
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: who didn't start last year because he buttered heads with

637
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: the coaches. That's why you bring in a guy like

638
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: this here and there here and talk about alcohol there

639
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: and two stuff like that. There's a lot of talk

640
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: about just being a young guy. Sounds like me and

641
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Alan high school in two thousand and two. Sounds like

642
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: right now, sitting on this set, problem with coaches anymore.

643
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: He's he's a young guy who just he's got some

644
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: immature tendencies and everything that comes with that, you know,

645
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: on and off the field. And so how does that

646
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: play in this locker room? You know? Is that something

647
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: you have to worry about? Is is this locker rooms

648
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff set up that you can take

649
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: a guy like that under your wing and who will

650
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: perform for you? I think it is in a lot

651
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: of ways. Um, Tristan Hill for me is my ninety

652
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: first player. Not as high as others, yeah, but so

653
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: much with his next level projection is potential because there's

654
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot of flash on his tape, the effort outstanding.

655
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: The guy's got a great motor consistency up and down again.

656
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: A guy that A big part of why I have

657
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: him ranked the way I do is he didn't start

658
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: because he couldn't get along with the coaches. That that

659
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: bothers me. So you you read flagged him more because

660
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: the ranking because of the coaching or we're well, yeah,

661
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: if I do, I could trust them one hundred percent,

662
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, be you talking about football character, he'd be

663
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: high on my boy, He's not making me feel any better,

664
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: is he well, no, you've lost all our guys and

665
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: now you won't let me take the good one. Okay,

666
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: we're in a weird spot here. If we draft Ferguson,

667
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: could we move Tyrone Crawford back inside and maybe you

668
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: address your defensive tackle problem that way? All right? Is

669
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: he not good enough to be worth there's a better

670
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: NFL three technique today, Tyrone Crawford or Tristan Hill. We've

671
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: seen Crawford question. Because if the answer is Crawford, then

672
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: the answer to his question is yes, we could totally

673
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: do it if you're gonna bring in an end and

674
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: then it's just which one's the better player because we

675
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: can make it work either way. It's tough man, and

676
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: that's like, maybe these aren't the two names, but this

677
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: is the scenario that's going to face them. Is like

678
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: making the best out of unideal circumstance. Did they have

679
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: one of us in their dave? They do somebody in

680
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: They're representing the crowd. As hard as you've been, as

681
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: hard as you've been trying. They're not gonna let you

682
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: no WI room. Well, not us us, but will someone

683
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: in that room Brian fight for a receiver if he's

684
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: the highest graded player. They're just not going to do it.

685
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I think it was a very possible scenario where on

686
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: their board they've got those guys ranked similar talking about

687
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: d both on some of the receivers, talking about the

688
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: defensive linemen, we're talking about Jalen Fergus and Triston Hill,

689
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: So they see those as equal. It's not one being

690
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: clearly better than the others. They're equal. And for this team,

691
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: they need defensive line more than they need receiver right now.

692
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: And that's why I think they'd go with one of

693
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: these two defensive linemen we're talking about over the receiver

694
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: best available player with me, right right, Yeah, I need

695
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: another good receiver, and I know you do, all right,

696
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: What's what about the situation. I think they need to

697
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: tackle more than they need the end because I think

698
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: they're gonna leave Crawford a defensive end, and I think

699
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna ask I think they're gonna ask Armstrong to play.

700
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: I think they want Tacco to try and develop, you know,

701
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: so to me, I'm looking for a backup three technique

702
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: under tackle. Turn in the card. Triston Hill. Triston Hill,

703
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: defensive tackle from Central Florida, will be our pick there,

704
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: Vinah is walking off the set. That's cool. I got

705
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: a receiver for ninety. You have to prepare yourself for

706
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: these types of situations. This is when you're picking fifty

707
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: eighth in the draft. This is what you're looking at. Okay,

708
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: let's reevaluate where we're at though. Should we have gone

709
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: up should we have gone up here? Or do you

710
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: feel good enough about the player? Let's wait till see

711
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: then we'll have a better idea. Okay, Um, So, okay,

712
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: we'll get through the second round. Third round started the

713
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: third round. Jay Sternberger's off the board. A Mony Hooker

714
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: who's a safety that we safety from Iowa. We didn't

715
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: really talk about really good players because this team hasn't

716
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: shown any interest in a Mony hooker. Yeah, but you

717
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: know he's a guy too that he could play that

718
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: box safety though he could play down. He's physical, he

719
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: tackles well. A Mony hooker. Absolutely, Ronell Rent off the board. Okay,

720
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: the kind of the raw which defensive tackle from Arizona State.

721
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: If we're great player all the way, if we're gonna

722
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: make the case to draft Hill at fifty eight, like

723
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: that's the type of guy you were hoping to be

724
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: there at ninety if you didn't draft the defensive tackle, right,

725
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: clearly that didn't happen, right, So, and this is where

726
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: that third round, especially as we're gonn see some of

727
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: these tight ends off the board. Dawson Knox Okay, off

728
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: the board? Wait is real? Okay? How did you like

729
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox? I like his potential at fifty eight? No?

730
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: Thank you? No, no, we're we're we're moving down. Okay,

731
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: you didn't want drafting at fifty eight. We're moving down

732
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the board here. Yeah, even if he made it to ninety,

733
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to think he would be my

734
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: best player. Okay, I'd love him at ninety. I just

735
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: think in that point. I think the Cowboys would love

736
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: him at ninety. That's kind of where I've been thinking, right,

737
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, he's gone obviously here. So he literally has

738
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: not caught a touchdown since his junior year of high

739
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: school of high school? What yeah, what, but he's gonna

740
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: dominate the league. He can run fast, Kittle right in

741
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: our guy from Guy been on trades, been on trades. Okay.

742
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: This is also where we see some running backs off

743
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: the board. Miles Sanders, Damien Harris gone gone, David Montgomery gone. Okay,

744
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: so we lost three running backs right there. David Montgomery,

745
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: who the Cowboys are enamored with. Sanders is my second

746
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: best running back, by the way, Penn State. One of

747
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: your favorites linebacker Jermaine Pratt off the board. Pratt in

748
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: North Carolina State. If you haven't had a chance to

749
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: watch Pratt, watch him play. That guy's man. He is good.

750
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: I like his toughness, like his body. He was a

751
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: converted safety, if I'm not mistaken, safety until his junior

752
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: years year and they moved him and they moved him

753
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: inside and physical. Love everything about him. Andy Pounds good player,

754
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: right um. A couple of receivers off the board here,

755
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, Riley Ridley. Another running back, Devin Singletary. Man. Okay, Singletary,

756
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: can't say something real quick about him? Where were we?

757
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Where were we talking about Singletary before he had the

758
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: terrible workout. I had him in the third round and

759
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: I didn't move him, not one bit, because I do

760
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: not care about running back workouts at all. Okay, but

761
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: you didn't like the tape enough, you didn't think he

762
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: was Probably I thought we maybe that brought us had

763
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: him in the top forty back before the Yeah, I

764
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: thought he was more like more like a potentially a

765
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: second round type of Did you let the workout move him?

766
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: You know what I did? Yeah? Yeah, I think you

767
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: had to. I mean to me, but that's one of

768
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: those things here. I am fighting for holy Field. About that?

769
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Fighting for holy Field? You like, fighting for Holyfield because

770
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: of the tape is good? Yeah? Yeah? Like yeah, way

771
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: to just completely expose yourself. No, No, I love the

772
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: slowest running back in the world because of his tape,

773
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: and you just felt like I felt like Holyfield was

774
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: just a tougher back. I was willing to fight for

775
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: a guy that was more of a complete player. That's

776
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: why I mean, I'm okay. How about guys that could run, block, catch? Okay,

777
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: that's the thing with Singletary. You know, if you see

778
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: the catch part, I mean, the block part's not very good.

779
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: I think running back is the most trust the tape

780
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: position in football. It is I can burn the workout,

781
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: don't care. I've seen him run if you have. If

782
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: you have an average workout, I'm okay with that as

783
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: running back. If you have a below average workout, that's

784
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: where I start to care if you running back and

785
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: it's not just a forty the four to six six

786
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: stands out, but seven three, two three cone, the four

787
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: four or short shuttle. Those things bother me. And not

788
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: enough where you're gonna fallow on my top one hundred,

789
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: but enough that you know Darryl Henderson's ahead of him,

790
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, making sure some of these other

791
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: running backs that I feel better about or ahead of

792
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: him in the rankings. Okay, uh so we lost him here. Yeah,

793
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: we have David long Corner from Michigan off the board. Okay,

794
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: what pick are we at right now? Eighty seven? Okay,

795
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: we're eighty seven. We're creeping up here. We're creeping up.

796
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: We're at ninety. We're not trading. Uh, we're not giving

797
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: up picks to move two spots in the lake. You

798
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: just gonna sit in and let this thing go right,

799
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: all right, we're going let's go eighty eight. Michael Dieter

800
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: offensive Lineman, Wisconsin. Kind of an indifferent guy, you know

801
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: when you watch him play, kind of like you want

802
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: to like him, but you don't. Jeez. Yeah, basically, can

803
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: you get away he's indifferent or you're indifferent to him.

804
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm indifferent to him. Okay, Never, I was gonna say

805
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can say about a player is

806
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: that he's indifferent. No, there's a there's a worst word

807
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: you can use them. That's true. I don't say it

808
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: on the air. I won't. All right, So the pick

809
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: before the Cowboys at eighty nine, this hurts a little bit.

810
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Max Crosby, Eastern Michigan. Do you like Max Crosby better

811
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: than Jalen Ferguson? Oh? Wo yeah, say it with your chest.

812
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Yet my dns are here to rush the passer. Did

813
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: you kind of think he was all arms? Lad? Jalen

814
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: has the most sax in college. I'm talking about Max

815
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Crosby because literally three cone, literally more sacks than anybody

816
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: in NCAA history. I am enamored with the Max Crosby.

817
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are too. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I

818
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are too And I think ninety is

819
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: where you would take a swing on it, because I

820
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: think at that point you say, okay, so even if

821
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: he's not a significant rotation player this year, if I

822
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: have a year of working with an NFL team to

823
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: get ready to play NFL football with that athleticism, in

824
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: that build. I got something in five years. I wouldn't

825
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: be surprised at all. If Max Crosby's a better player

826
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: than Jalen Ferguson, that shouldn't surprise anybody. We're six weeks.

827
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: In five years, he'll be on his second contract. So

828
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: we'll be talking you. I'll be at the lake. You

829
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: guys can talk about all that you keep saying, yell

830
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: and boiling crawfish. But think about this. In five years,

831
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: he's walking away after his first contract. You're getting back

832
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: a third round cop pick. There you go, he signed

833
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: h that's the way to do it. Okay, So we

834
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: lose Crosby. The Cowboys liked him. That could have been

835
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: a consideration. Now Dallas is on the clock. At Dallas,

836
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: what do we got? Okay? And this it's looking like

837
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: a lot of offensive players here, uh lining up on

838
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: this board. Top players that this team has shown interest in.

839
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Treveon Williams crying back from Texas and m Yes McCole hardman,

840
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Georgia. Hey we're doing uh kal A

841
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: wearing tight end San Diego State. That's good too. Uh

842
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Nelson defensive end Iowa. Yeah, still there Jeff's happy

843
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: this time. Let's see if they're spaking a better player

844
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: at ninety This is great, So you do well, it

845
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: will stop you. Do you feel better? Are about this

846
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: list of guys? Did you do? Didn't you do? Yeah?

847
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: In what? In what way? I think McCole Hardman impacts

848
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: your team immediately? Wide receiver, a little short guy. Yeah,

849
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: I think he returns kickoffs and punts for you immediately

850
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: and when you want to put him on the field

851
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: in the slot. Sure, he's not going to be a

852
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: polished route runner yet, but teams are gonna know he's

853
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: out there. They're gonna account for him, or he's gonna

854
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: be running real far, real fast. You just described Tavon Austin. Yeah,

855
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: but I described one that's real cheap for the next

856
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: four years. Will he ever be better than what Tavon

857
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Austin is right now? Yeah? I would bet on that.

858
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Do you do you use Dave's tied end theory? Will

859
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: they use him the right way? Um? I hate to

860
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: see according to that though. You no, No, But I'm

861
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: just saying you're not running the team here. That's the

862
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: problem here. I am too, Anthony Brown, Michael Gallup, he

863
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: did fight for those guys. I I just I have

864
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: to think about the construct of what is actually gonna

865
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: happen when I think about these Okay, so, is Helen

866
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: Moore going to have a big piece of control of

867
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: the offense or know who the hell knows? I think

868
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: if the answers, yes, I think he is. I think

869
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: Killen Moore is gonna have a big stick in this offense.

870
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: I really, I hope you're right. I really do. Yeah,

871
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, we get really Garrett Troll's last year.

872
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, let's Garrett wants to step in there and

873
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: control the offense and what you might if it's your

874
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. I hate the word unpolished like I

875
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: hate it. I hate I hate using a premium pick

876
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: on a guy that you gotta teach. We're in the

877
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: third round at the end of it, Dave pick ninety

878
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: is that premium pick. Top one hundred picks are supposed

879
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: to be immediate serious contributors, right, made me have to

880
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: do it. It's McCole Hardman. Is mcole Hardman going to like,

881
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: you're just drop dead shirt? He's gonna beat out basically

882
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin or any other receiver who's been here for

883
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, because that's how draft picks work. They

884
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: get to win the camp battle, whether they win it

885
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: or not. Like what were the other names? Kle Warring?

886
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: I love him, but that's developmental. What's he gonna do?

887
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna watch people play football. He scares the hell

888
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: out of me. Anthony Nelson, Anthony Nelson, what's he gonna do? Us?

889
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: I think they're all good players. The Cowboys have a

890
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: good team. There's not a bunch of spots available for

891
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: the guy who's picked ninetieth to come play a bunch

892
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: of snaps. Okay, good, didn't you didn't you set you

893
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: set me up for my logic for this? Then? Okay, Dan,

894
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: say the next name? Uh? What's the next name? The

895
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: first one you said? Tray Van Williams. Tray Beyond Williams

896
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: running back, running backs or later they're running backs? Not

897
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: when you only have one on your roster, they're not.

898
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: We'll find another one where we got more picks. I

899
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll take the Notre Dame kid later, Dexter Williams. See, yeah,

900
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: he likes, he likes he's been cheerleading for that guy.

901
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: I like him. I like him too, just tape. He's

902
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: a solid fourth runner for me. Yeah, we'll fill running

903
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: back later. It's not a problem. They're looking for a

904
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: guy who can do everything right off the bat, right, Yeah,

905
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: third down back, a third down back who could be

906
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: a everything back if he was called upon any down back.

907
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: They sound kind of scared about not having Zeke in

908
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: the lineup, didn't you kind of? Don't you kind of

909
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: get that impression? Oh no, I got that impression a lot.

910
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: Not that, and like I got the impression they like

911
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Williams and Montgomery, and Montgomery's already gone. Yeah. You know,

912
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: if they had to pick a guy, he's pretty polished, right,

913
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: isn't he. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, he led the SEC

914
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: in rushing last year. Um, I mean he LSU defense,

915
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: the NC State defense that could do nothing against him.

916
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: You're picking at ninety, you're picking how many spots away

917
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: from them. Let me sit next to Jerry. I'll get

918
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: McCole Harman picked. That's a sexy pick. I would I

919
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: give me Williams over Hardman if that's the choice, and

920
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: I would consider I would consider wearing over even Hardman,

921
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: the San Diego State kid. Can we agree that I've

922
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: got all his third rounders, but I would go Hardman.

923
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Can we agree that in a perfect world, neither of

924
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: these guys is gonna do a ton in their rookie See, yeah,

925
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: a perfect world, Trayvind Williams doesn't do much at all, exactly,

926
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: but it'd be great. But yeah, but it's easier to

927
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: put a rookie running back into these schemes and have

928
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: them have production. Well, you, thank you answered what I

929
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: was trying to set up, which is that Trevion Williams.

930
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: I look at him as a plug and play. I

931
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: do absolutely too, Nicole Hardman. I look at as a

932
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: project and a guy. And again, I know you want to.

933
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: You can't disassociate this. The coaches will trust Tavon Austin

934
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: more than they trust this third round rookie. Then why

935
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: did they bring in the Tavon clone If we're gonna

936
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: get to ninety and he's not in consideration? They brought

937
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: in Devo Williams too, and we passed Samuel Devo Williams.

938
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Deebo Samuel. They due diligence, I mean, and honestly,

939
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: they did a lot of due diligence on receivers. They

940
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: did not well, they do due diligence on everybody. Well, no,

941
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: but like the thirty list, how many receivers were on

942
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: There was like four or yeah, I think so, and

943
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: two running backs. Yeah, they're doing due diligence. And honestly,

944
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Hardman was the pick, just

945
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: based on everything we know. I think Trevion Williams does

946
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: more for your team and in the future. I honestly,

947
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: I think enough of Trevion Williams that he's a bargaining

948
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: chip in this contract negotiation with Zeke. Elliott too brought

949
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: in Samuel Hardman, John V. Johnson, h Emmanuel Halle where else.

950
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: We got john By Johnson from Toledo and that's it.

951
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Let's take a vote. There's for him us here Harken okay,

952
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: brought us Williams all day, Williams all day. I would

953
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: have gone Anthony Nelson myself. Dan Dane hates the running

954
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: back pick. No, I'm going we just didn't want to tie. No.

955
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Two years ago when uh they went corner corner second

956
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: third round. Okay, I'm going defensive line, second third round.

957
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting Tristan Hill, going Anthony Nelson. All of a sudden,

958
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: my defensive lines looking stacked. Anthony Nelson's a good player.

959
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: He's a good player. Absolutely. I can get a really

960
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: good three cone too, didn't he especially from his height? Yeah? Yeah,

961
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: seven flat, give or take. Yeah. I would be perfectly

962
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: happy to draft him. I'll be okay with him. But

963
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: Dragon Williams is the pick running back who comes in

964
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: and is Zeke's backup from day one, which, yes, that's

965
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: a rich pick, but it accomplishes, strictly speaking, your biggest

966
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: need on the roster. I know, I mean, it's not

967
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: because Zeke is so good, but you just you know,

968
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: you're saying, we're playing a game tomorrow. What do we

969
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: have to have? You need more running backs on your roster.

970
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: And he's a guy like he could be a backup,

971
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: he could be a third down back, he could carry

972
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: the ball twenty times if Zeke is unavailable for whatever

973
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: reason I think, I mean, and again, it's basically a

974
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. That's how you have to view it.

975
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: Gotcham perfectly fine with that, I am too. All right,

976
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: let's reset here for a second. We are the Draft

977
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: show is here at Shakerton's. We're always as always, presented

978
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: by Miller Way We appreciate everybody it's here hanging out

979
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: with us today and right now, what we're doing is

980
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: we're going through the Cowboys the seven round mock draft.

981
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: We're trying to get an idea of what players will

982
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: be there and have a discussion. So when we get

983
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: on the clock on really Friday and Saturday messing up.

984
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: I keep saying Thursday unless he trades back, in which

985
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll do. You never know, bro, I

986
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: never know. I think about Thursday ratings, pretend they might

987
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. But yes, again, we're so happy that Miller

988
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: lights along with us today and really happy that Shakerson

989
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: stepped up as well. Okay, now we're moving this thing on.

990
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: Now we're moving into the fourth round. We've got two picks, right,

991
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: We've got two picks here. We got to think about, well, again,

992
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: we didn't move either one of these picks because we're

993
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: seeing who what players we feel like we have. They've

994
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: put out earlier that there's need if you look into

995
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: the future contracts that are coming up depth all those issues.

996
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: So we've we've saved these two picks and now we

997
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: need to find a way to make him. So let's

998
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: go through it right now, Dane. These are gonna be

999
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: picks four one twenty nine and four one thirty seven,

1000
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: so they're really right there behind each other. The one

1001
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: you're one up, it's eight to one thirties six. Yeah,

1002
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: is that what it is? Yes? I mean they're late

1003
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: day and they're late fourth round picks. Okay, my bad one, Okay,

1004
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: my bad one twenty eight, one thirty six, Okay, you

1005
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: got it. Go ahead. So this is where and we

1006
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: won't go through all the fourth round picks, but we

1007
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: talked about running back at ninety. If we don't go

1008
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: running back at ninety, that's a direction we go on

1009
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: Day three. Here in the fourth round, two picks before

1010
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: one twenty eight off the board, rich Well Armstead and

1011
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Dexter Williams uh did not make it to one twenty eight. Okay,

1012
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: so we lost your guy, Dexter Williams. It's clearly a

1013
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: fantasy land. He was gonna make it till we picked

1014
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: it back, and he wanted to prove a point o kiddy, Dan,

1015
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: Dane can manipulate boards, but I don't. I don't know

1016
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: if you manipulated it that they're going by guy on

1017
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: purpose jerk one twenty eight, and again, this is what

1018
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: we think they are gonna do. Realistic, realistically speaking, one

1019
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: twenty eight comes up. We've gone what we've gone defensive tackle,

1020
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: a three technique, we've gone running back here in one

1021
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: twenty eight. So we're looking at what we're looking at. Corner, corner,

1022
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: we're looking at safety, We're looking at possibly receiver, offensive line, depth, linebacker.

1023
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: We're pretty open. Yeah, yeah at this point, are you're

1024
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna find a safety that you have any faith? Is

1025
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: an upgrade from the Jeff Heath George I Loca Camp battle. Well,

1026
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: because you'd like to if you could, well, yeah, yeah,

1027
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: you definitely like to. But with most of these guys

1028
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: off the board, with my top ten safeties are off

1029
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: the board, first six safeties were offed or yeah, first

1030
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: six safeties were off the board in the second round,

1031
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: and then we lost the money Hooker, we lost Mike Edwards,

1032
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: we lost malt Gant. So here we go outside the

1033
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: top ten safeties in the draft. The one guy that

1034
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: stands out as Ghari willis for Michigan State who they

1035
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: brought in, and I worry about his range. I worry

1036
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: about him holding up if you ask him to cover

1037
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: but again, this team brought him in. This team wants

1038
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: more of that box safety. A guy is gonna come

1039
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: down and hit you. He has that, he has the

1040
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: intangibles that fits perfectly with what they want. Ghari Willis

1041
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: from Michigan State is interesting name here, Jeff, Do you

1042
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,959
Speaker 1: like Willis at this spot at four when we say four? Don't?

1043
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I don't think he's better than

1044
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: either one of what you have? Okay, that does I

1045
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: mean based on everything I know that does sound a

1046
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: little bit rich, But again, I mean you have to

1047
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: consider the team's evaluations, trump ours right, and for what

1048
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: else is available on the board? Who I mean, who

1049
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: else is? Who else is available? Dan? If we want

1050
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: to go we haven't addressed defensive end. We could go

1051
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: John Komitski from Oh, Bounce House. Yeah, you're way too

1052
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: excited about a guy from Charles that was the Bounce House, right, Yeah? Well,

1053
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: actually it's Alie Moore Pett from House Charleston built their

1054
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: neighbor there's in the neighborhood. There's more people listening to

1055
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: this show than have ever watched him play football. Okay,

1056
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: well those people think for Shawn Gary, he's gonna go

1057
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen because he's so maybe not. This

1058
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: guy is the budget version. He's two eighty and he's

1059
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: a heck of an athlete. He is a heck of

1060
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: an and you see what you turn him into. Okay,

1061
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: take a shot. I've cast my vote. That's a at

1062
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: this point. Now, okay, we'll talk. Okay, we'll then describe

1063
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: give me, give me the thumbnail on Kamensky. Then Kimiski's

1064
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: a high school quarterback who you know, he knew he

1065
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: was not going to be a quarterback in college. He's

1066
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: kind of the best athlete out there. And he was

1067
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: a big guy, only two hundred and ten pounds when

1068
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: he went to Charleston on a partial scholarship Division two.

1069
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: They moved into defensive end and he kind of blossomed.

1070
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: He's up to two eighty six, a guy who is

1071
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: a terrific athlete at two eighty six, four six nine

1072
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: in the forty one six seven ten yards split seven

1073
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: oh three three cones, terrific for him. So this is

1074
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's talking about the traits uh six five,

1075
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: two eighty six, thirty three and a half inch arms,

1076
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: flashes violence in his hands, competes the tape wasn't really strong,

1077
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: but it was. You know, when you watch a guy

1078
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: in Division two, you expect to just dominate the competition.

1079
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't think we saw that. But again, when you

1080
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: factor in the traits and what you can try to

1081
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: mold someone into, that's what you get with Commenska. Really

1082
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: balanced athlete can help you as a rundefender. It's getting

1083
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: need some time as a pass rusher. But for this team,

1084
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: the fourth round, the late fourth round, I think that's

1085
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: what you're buying. What is going on with this team

1086
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: this Since Will McClay took over the Cowboys draft, they

1087
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: have been the king of the big school prospect and

1088
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: true the pass rushers that they are enamored with in

1089
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen went to Louisiana Tech, Eastern Michigan, Central Florida,

1090
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: and Charleston. Probably because of where you're picking. If you

1091
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: wanted to have a guy who has good production, good measurables,

1092
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: and played at a big school, you don't get to

1093
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: have him at fifty eight most likely. That is a

1094
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: very good point. And even in that case, like maybe

1095
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: can I drop a world where chasing Winovich makes fifty

1096
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: eight sure possible? And I don't even know if the

1097
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys would pick him. A lot of people don't like

1098
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: Chase Winovich. I do. I know. I'm a big fan,

1099
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: and I don't think he makes fifty eight. Yeah, you

1100
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: think he goes well before that, right? I do? He

1101
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: could go easily. I mean he nothing nowhere in the

1102
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: second round or third round. Was surprised me with Chase

1103
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: Winovich because opinions are all over the map on him. Um,

1104
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: I think you know you love the effort that he gives.

1105
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: He says, okay, athlete, not a great athlete, not a

1106
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: bad athlete, but he's he's a good athlete. The some

1107
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: of the character stuff is a worry with him. He

1108
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: rubbed some people the wrong way, that kind of thing,

1109
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: and that's gonna drop him. Not everyone's gonna like him

1110
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: because of that, But anywhere in the second and third round,

1111
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: because he plays the right position. Is it true he

1112
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: came back his senior year to Michigan to be a

1113
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: captain and beat Ohio State and all that, and none

1114
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: of that, None of that happened. It was not voted

1115
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: as senior captain. I've talked to former teammates who are

1116
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: not Chase Winovich fans. So, and that's something that scouts

1117
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: are well aware of and that plays in a war room.

1118
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, when you're trying to stack your board and

1119
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: figure out to order, these guys are gonna come off

1120
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: the board. That's the kind of stuff that can win battles. Uh,

1121
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, anecdotes like that. Getting back to the matter

1122
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: at hand, I'm I'm curious. I'm curious about this, Okay,

1123
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: Cary willis Michigan State's safety. He doesn't improve your safety

1124
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: position like right away, Like he ain't. He's not starting

1125
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: over Iloka or Heath probably, but and like I mean,

1126
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: obviously you want your picks to be home runs. But

1127
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm again going back to just the nuts and bolts

1128
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: of roster building. Cavon Frazier's in a contract year, Jeff

1129
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Heath is in a contract year. Like, do you draft

1130
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: this guy simply in the name of having a body

1131
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: and worry about the fact that he might not ever

1132
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: go to a Pro Bowl for you later or But

1133
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: at the same time, even though we went to a

1134
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: small school, if Kaminski's got these amazing traits that y'all

1135
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: are talking about, I love the idea of drafting a

1136
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: guy like that late in the fourth round, because I mean,

1137
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: what else are you looking at in that range? So

1138
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm wondering Boomer bust player verse, a guy who could

1139
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: be your Cavon Frasier for the next four years, And like,

1140
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: don't kid yourself. Those players are important too. Cavon's had

1141
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: a role on this team every year of his career,

1142
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: and if you don't bring him back next year, you

1143
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: got to replace that production somewhere. Let's factor it like this.

1144
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: We have a pick here and eat picks in the

1145
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: fourth round, So sure take those are the two players

1146
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: are talking about, Khari Willis and John Kimiski. Let's take

1147
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: the player that we don't think is gonna make it

1148
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: to one thirty six. Would take him at one twenty

1149
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: eight and hope the other guy falls, so is Kaminski.

1150
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, the the upside pick, the traits pick, is

1151
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: that the guy that we're thinking might not make it

1152
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: to one thirty six. Yeah, I think that to me,

1153
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: I have problems with Kimensky. I just didn't see a

1154
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: guy that dominate at that level. You know. I saw

1155
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: a guy that played tall and you know, yeah, you

1156
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: could play him. He's got the flexibility. You know, we

1157
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: I talked about and when with the first mock drafts

1158
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: we did for our magazine, I did. I picked Zach

1159
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: Allen because I felt like Zach Allen could play defensive

1160
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: end and he could play defensive tack. I feel like

1161
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: John Komiskey could probably do the same thing, but I

1162
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: don't think he could do it on the level that

1163
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: I want him to do that out right, Yeah, I

1164
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: worry about again. I'm watching you know, there still a

1165
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: line from KT I'm watching a butcher block him, you know,

1166
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, when I play in the IVY

1167
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: League gets a pharmacist and all that. But yeah, I'm

1168
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Shephard College or University in Finley, and these

1169
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: guys are blocking him, and I'm kind of like, man,

1170
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: why why why are everybody liking this guy so much?

1171
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: I would have a problem with this pick. I would

1172
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: have to go with the consensus of the room because

1173
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: I am not a fan of this guy. I Wis.

1174
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: I like Willis. I would if you gave me a

1175
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: choice between him and Willis, I'd take Willis. But I

1176
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: understand what you know, Jeff was. I mean, he's lost

1177
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: guys earlier. You know, we're we're kind of you know,

1178
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: talking about guys that that you know, we liked and

1179
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: we've taken, but this would be a guy that I

1180
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy with. But if three scouts told me

1181
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: or the room told me, no, this guy's a player,

1182
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: I would allow that to happen. Okay, But going back

1183
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: to what I said about who's gonna make it the

1184
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: one thirty six? Do we this this this guy? We

1185
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: got him at one, twenty four, twenty eight. He is

1186
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: probably gonna go into third round. And this is this

1187
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: is and don't be surprised when you're watching the draft

1188
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden and I'm like, okay, the

1189
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: Buccaneers are on the clock and three ninety five to

1190
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, and we're all gonna look at each other

1191
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: and go, okay, just mark that on is moving on?

1192
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: You know, happen about I think the league sees this

1193
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: guy differently than me, and I think you guys might

1194
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: be right about the player, But man, I have a

1195
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 1: problem with a guy that doesn't dominate at that level.

1196
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, that is that is a big issue

1197
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: for me. And if we're gonna take that guy, I'm

1198
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: gonna let I'm gonna let somebody else be the hero here, Jeff,

1199
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: We've been upsetting you all night. So what do you

1200
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: want to do? Take Charleston, there's commits, right, Okay, But

1201
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if Willis makes the team. I mean, no,

1202
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: are you cutting cav On Frasier, Georgia A. Loca? You're

1203
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: not cutting Iloca unless you draft a guy like Thornhill.

1204
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: All the safety talk is really about cave On Frasier,

1205
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: by the way, guys, right exactly you think about it? No?

1206
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: For sure? Well, and but can't George Iloka take his spot?

1207
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: He might not purely from again, Georgia, I looka is

1208
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: not the most nimble guy you've ever seen. He could

1209
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: tackle all day. Also, carry Willis is the nimble guy.

1210
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: George Iloca is not playing. Carry Willis has got at

1211
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: least some range. I don't know if Georgia A. Looca

1212
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: has a lot of range range to do what like?

1213
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: You wouldn't want him covering? He plays like as a

1214
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: free safety. I mean you see, yeah, he comes forward,

1215
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: all right. They brought him in. They brought him in.

1216
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: Let's not unurely the Boston college kid that they brought

1217
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: in the other Harris, Yeah, Will Harris, how'd you like

1218
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: Will Harris. You remember Will harder than Willis. Okay, listen,

1219
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: let's all just agree. If pick fifty eight isn't the safety,

1220
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: then the safety position is not going to significantly be better.

1221
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: There's no there's no reason to draft one then, right,

1222
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: is that what you're saying. No, that's not what I'm saying.

1223
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, give up on that dream. Like

1224
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they don't get a Rap or

1225
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: an Abram or a thorn Hill, then it's probably not

1226
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: going to substantially improve this season. If I had to

1227
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: get hey, we need to trade up, then maybe should

1228
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't have been a coward. We do need

1229
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: to go back and get brave. Yeah, I rewind this

1230
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: whole Now you have. Now you have Zeke's all around

1231
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: badass backup in his place. Yeah. I mean I cut

1232
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: you off earlier. But now that we know what ninety is,

1233
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, are Tristan Hill and trey Vin Williams.

1234
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: That's not a bad draft one of these safeties. Yeah,

1235
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: would have I'd rather have Rap. I think I would too.

1236
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: But could sell Could I sell you? Okay? So can

1237
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: I sell you? Well? Again? All right? So you have

1238
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: Taylor rap and then or well, no, that Taylor rap

1239
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: and then Justice Hill or Dexter Williams. Yeah, I would

1240
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: take Yeah, Yeah, rapping Dexter Williams makes me feel a

1241
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: lot better than what we ended up with. I could

1242
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: live with that. I could live with that. I feel fine.

1243
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 1: We're all anti trading now, we're all on that. It's

1244
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: because I don't like John Kimiski. That's why. No, I'm

1245
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: fine with what we've done. We all got guys we

1246
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: don't like. That's the way it's gonna go. We don't

1247
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: all get our guys. When you don't have a first

1248
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: round pick and you're picking at the end of the round,

1249
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to be that thrilled unless something crazy.

1250
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: Let's six, Well who did we take on one twenty eight?

1251
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: John Kimsky? Yeah, all right, Well car Harry Willis is

1252
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: still there at one thirty six. So who else we got? Uh?

1253
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: Bobbio Karki the linebacker that's from Stanford. Yea Dylan Mitchell

1254
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Oregon. Hey, oh that every wide receiver.

1255
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: He's lying. He's lit up about every wide receiver we've

1256
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: talked about. Yeah, I could I would have taken three.

1257
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: Are you buy that we'll be running six? Why why

1258
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: do you? Yeah, Like, why do you want a wide

1259
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 1: receiver so bad? Uh? Because they're good? Randall CoP's gonna

1260
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: be here for one year. Then I want Deebo Samuel.

1261
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm about to pay the quarterback thirty million dollars a year,

1262
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: and I need to give him all the weapons in

1263
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: the world if I want him to be able good quarterbacks.

1264
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: You're you're preaching to the choir. No, well, it's funny.

1265
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: I would take a receiver who can make a difference

1266
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: right away. But like, keep these projects away from me.

1267
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: It's not a project. It's just a waiting gay which

1268
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: you get away to year. That's what you call a

1269
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: project because they're not ready right away. No, no, no,

1270
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: they're ready. There's just something in their way. Were you

1271
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: thinking about Williste thirty six? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's

1272
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: I think that's where this team is going to be

1273
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: looking at him. I don't know if they trust him

1274
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: getting the one five, one sixty five. Um Cole Holcomb,

1275
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: the linebacker of the North Carolina is out there. See

1276
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: this is this is the fun part for me. Like,

1277
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm part of this and I watch and

1278
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: pay attention. But I haven't watched five hundred players the

1279
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: way that y'all have. And now, on the eve of

1280
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: the draft, y'all have to reconcile the fact that the

1281
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: team's board is not the same as your board, you know,

1282
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's a that's a frustrating Hey, Taco Charlton, right,

1283
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean exactly, We're back in that conversation, which we

1284
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: can do all the preparation we want, but at the

1285
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, they've got their own. So do

1286
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: we just give them Willis here because we think it's

1287
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: realistic because I have Hulcomb ahead of Willis, and I

1288
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: don't like hulkm either. I have Willis in the six

1289
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: or seventh rows. If you look at if you look

1290
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: at the safeties that they visited, if you want to

1291
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: play this game, it's either Harris or Willis at this point,

1292
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: whoever you have rated better, it's likely I mean, if

1293
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: you whoever you feel better about it. Again, this is

1294
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: us trying to project what they might do, and you're

1295
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: watching the same tape they are, So I mean, you

1296
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: have to figure out now Is And I me personally,

1297
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: I would take Willis myself. I know that you don't

1298
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: like that at all. But I didn't like Kaminski, so

1299
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: that's I think Willis is the most realistic pick there,

1300
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: to be honest, bring them on, Okay in terms of

1301
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: what this team is gonna do six Okay, have we

1302
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: picked all visits so far? I don't Trevan Williams. I

1303
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: don't think. Okay. Is he not a local guy either? No? No, okay,

1304
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: he's from Houston. I believe they don't stretch the boundary

1305
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: that far for Dallas, so so far, that's a good

1306
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Jeff Is and I say this

1307
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: all the time, and I think it's smart, like you

1308
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: want to circle in on the guys that they're interested in.

1309
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: But every single year the draft never falls that way.

1310
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: Like we're doing our best, but it just will not

1311
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: work out this way. And if if three of the

1312
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: five or four of the five picks are thirty visits,

1313
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: I'll be pretty surprised. Especially it's usually two. You've done

1314
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: this study though before. Usually it's it one to two.

1315
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: The focus is in the top, like the focus is

1316
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: in the Obviously they don't have a first round, but

1317
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: the focus is first, second, and usually even the third.

1318
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: But again once you get down toward the sixties, seventies

1319
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: and beyond, and you're at the mercy of the board. Okay,

1320
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: just to reset here from Shakerton's again, the draft show

1321
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: presented by Miller lite Tristan Hill, who we selected at

1322
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: two fifty eight, the defensive tackle from Central Florida. At

1323
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: three ninety we went Trevion Williams, the running back from

1324
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: Texas A and M At four one twenty eight we

1325
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: went John Kaminsky, the defensive end from Charlestown, And at

1326
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: four one thirty six we went Cary Willis, the safety

1327
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: from Michigan State. Okay, we don't have a sixth round pick,

1328
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: Am I correct about that? Five one sixty five is

1329
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: left and seven two forty one we've addressed. Seven two

1330
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: forty one are the picks we have left. Now we've

1331
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: addressed pretty much all of the primary needs right, safety,

1332
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: D tackle, running back D D and d end YEP

1333
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: which d end maybe not a primary need, but that's okay. Okay,

1334
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: with two picks left, is there a position we have

1335
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: to get with those two picks, whether it be corner,

1336
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: whether it be receiver, linebacker. You got a receiver whisper guy,

1337
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: you'd probably like a corner. I would think with your

1338
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: top four corners, the guys that are the most relevant,

1339
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: two are up after this year and the other two

1340
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: are up after the next year. That's that could be

1341
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: a pretty big need if we have a slot guy,

1342
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: I guess any receiver, because you could kind of move

1343
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: them around. Sure, if there's a receiver, Yeah, I think

1344
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: that works. I don't know if you're gonna find a

1345
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: tackle prospect you like this late, but I think that's relevant. Yeah,

1346
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: that's that's twenty twenties problem. Okay, we can fix that

1347
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: one later. Yeah. I like what you're talking about with

1348
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: the corner though. I do like that. I mean, it's

1349
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: eric can we get as we go down the board,

1350
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: are we gonna tell me who we're gonna lose, because

1351
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna influence me which direction we're gonna go. Chris

1352
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: Westy the Kentucky corner, and we talked about another super

1353
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: tall one. Yeah, he literally is six four six four

1354
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: and a half, but four three seven is the speed there.

1355
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: They went to Lexington to work him out as well.

1356
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: Uh now four three five three five on the board

1357
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: at six four and a half hundred ninety nine pounds

1358
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: Jeff again, is there a is there a wide receiver

1359
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: you like in that? Is there a wide receiver on

1360
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: our board? And left? Who who's have you got anybody?

1361
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: At that point, um, we can go keeling. Okay, So

1362
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: like renfro or is john V Johnson? John By Johnson

1363
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: was a guy they brought in run yeah, Clito, right,

1364
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: this Senior Bowl guy Penny Hart available, No, he's gone. Okay,

1365
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: john bya really struck me as more of a seventh

1366
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: round player. But yeah, at this point where at the

1367
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: mercy of the board. So we got to figure out

1368
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: who's available here and we can try and wait till

1369
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: the seventh round to get because this receiver, this receiver

1370
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: class is so deep that people are gonna be shocked

1371
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: by some of the receivers they go undrafted in this

1372
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: I kind of thought that way last year when Wilson went,

1373
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: When Dallas picked Wilson, Yeah, you know, I was the

1374
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: state receiver. I was shocked by that whole thing. Right, Okay,

1375
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: don't kill me for asking. This is Dax Raymond gone?

1376
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: But sorry? Yes, at five one sixty four, one pick

1377
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: ahead of the Cowboys to the Indianapolis Colts as a back. Yeah,

1378
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: but who wants him? Jeff does. Jeff asked about him?

1379
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: I did, I mean, I got him in the fifth

1380
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: He can run, but I can't trust him about the Uh.

1381
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: How about the Nebraska kid. There's a few of those,

1382
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: the running back Stanley Morgan. Yeah, I think that'd be

1383
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: a good pick. Now, he's he's not gonna light anybody

1384
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: out with speed. He's not a separation guy. But Stanley

1385
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: Morgan catches every ball throne his strong possession. I remember

1386
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: watching his tape thinking, my gosh, he doesn't drop the ball. Yep,

1387
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: he's still available to go there and fifth rone. That's

1388
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: the possibility. Do you feel good about you? There were

1389
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: a wide receiver whisper? Do you feel good about that?

1390
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: You feel good about Stanley Morgan coming in here? He

1391
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: can't run a lick, and you might be like some

1392
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: of the guys you've got, I mean, will he did

1393
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: four or five? Three? Does he beat out? Because right

1394
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: now you've got to beat out Tavon Austin or Noah

1395
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: Brown and Cedric Wilson. Do we feel like that's gonna happen?

1396
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: That's to go, I guess, because you might end up

1397
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: eighth on the depth chart and be a decent player

1398
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: if you're and that's I kind of That's the point

1399
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: I was trying to make earlier is if you're not

1400
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: drafting a clear badass, i'll deebo Samuel. Is it worth

1401
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: throwing another guy into that log jam? No? I mean personally,

1402
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: I was just asking. I was trying to think of names.

1403
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: I was trying to get some names. Let me ask you.

1404
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: This is sam a sample to tie in from Washington available. No,

1405
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: he was gone, Okay, that dude's gonna go high, like

1406
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: higher than you think we like. We should have picked

1407
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: him at one thirty six or at one twenty. Yeah,

1408
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: it's Deontay Johnson available. No, he along gone, Okay, everyone

1409
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: likes Jontay Johnson. See now we're now we're we're in

1410
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: a problem here. I think, well, no, I think it

1411
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: comes down to, okay, do we want to go linebacker?

1412
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: Do we want to go corner? We do we go receiver? Um?

1413
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: What are our what are our corners? My preference is

1414
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 1: probably corner. If I can find a guy that I

1415
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: think is going to make the team, Mark Fields Clemson corner,

1416
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: hamp Chievers, Derek Thomas from Baylor, that's ah, he's got

1417
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: the biggest wingspan of any corner in this draft. Can

1418
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: you talk about him a little bit? Then place former

1419
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: basketball guy who just had no offers, no interest out

1420
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: of high school, had to go to the academy Milford

1421
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: Academy then ends up getting a like a partial of

1422
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: walk on opportunity. It's at Temple. Uh please to transfer

1423
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: from Temple. Then he came with the coach right well,

1424
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: and he played receiver. Then he moved to corner later on.

1425
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: So and then he moves to Baylor as a graduate

1426
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: transfer plays this year from Matt Roulett Baylor, and he

1427
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: played well as a starting safety for Baylor. And he's tall,

1428
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: he's long, and he can run. That's that's a good

1429
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: mix right there. Two six two, seven six two and

1430
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: seven eighth four four four speed, The jumps are great,

1431
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: seven one eight three comes respectable for him. So at

1432
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: this point in the draft, I mean, that's that's the

1433
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: type of traits. That's that's a trades pick right there.

1434
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: That is total trades pick. He's an older guy. I mean,

1435
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: I think he's over twenty four. He's been around a

1436
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: little bit, so upside do worry about a little bit

1437
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: about that. But Brian likes to tell me that Terrence

1438
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: Newman was old. So yeah, and Terence Newman is still playing.

1439
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Terence is fifty three now, yeah, exactly,

1440
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: still starting. Derek Thomas would not be a bad pick here. Um,

1441
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: I like him over Westy. Okay, I'm with you on that.

1442
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: I think Western. I'm not a fan of Westy at all.

1443
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: They only have six picks to work with, so who

1444
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: knows if it works out for him. But I think

1445
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: they want to get Chris Richard a cornerback, just a

1446
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: guy that he can kind of work with, work with

1447
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: and mold. And I mean, we'll see what happens with

1448
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that

1449
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: he comes back Barron Jones. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I don't.

1450
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: And I mean it's a long shot to say a

1451
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: fifth round pick is gonna be your replacement for Byron Jones.

1452
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: But you could at least right to find that guy

1453
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, you're probably right. I think we're spending

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01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: too much time on a fifth round pick. Let's go

1455
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas. Derrick Thomas says the guy who's been watching

1456
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: tape of these guys since October. I'm just excited to

1457
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: get the seventh round. There we go. Okay, we're seven. Okay,

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01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,879
Speaker 1: so far again. Tristan Hill defensive tackle, Central Florida. Trevion

1459
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: Williams running back Texas and NYM. John Kamitsky defensive end

1460
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: tackle h Charleston Cary Willis the safety from Michigan State.

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: Derrek Thomas the cornerback from Baylor. So far, so we're

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01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: in the seventh round, seven, two forty one. Right now,

1463
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: this is the point where this is where you draft

1464
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: somebody you don't want to fight for and free agency

1465
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: this is it. When you get to this point, you're thinking, Okay,

1466
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: who can we take that? We thought, oh, maybe this

1467
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: guy can make it to free agency. Uh no, that's

1468
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: not the case. You go and get this guy now.

1469
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: So let's think about who went direction we need to

1470
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: go in there? Day is our Arkansas linebacker gone green Law?

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01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: He's available. I heard his name on the radio today

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: by mister Stephen Jones. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yea. If

1473
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: his son scouting for him. Information like green Law. He's

1474
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: just small, Yeah, he's just small. He's your ideal special teamer, right,

1475
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: That's that's what you're getting. Yeah, and whatever he gives

1476
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: you on defense just a plus. Like, if there's some

1477
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: guy out there with really good traits you're gonna swing

1478
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: on instead, that's fine. But if watching him, the dude

1479
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: is tenacious to him, is at Holloman right from Holcombe

1480
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: holkm excuse me, Holm, Holcomb's gone, Holm's gone. Okay, so

1481
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: so not having that sixth rounder showed there. So yeah,

1482
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: here in the seventh Drake green Law is a good name.

1483
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: Uh you know he's you say he's short. He's five

1484
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: eleven and a half four seventh three. Guy can't get

1485
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: off a block going forward. He'll give ground, but he

1486
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: will get off the block. He ain't gonna play defense anyway, sir,

1487
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: You never know, you have lots of things happen. Five

1488
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: eleven and a half, two thirty seven on that. My

1489
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: guy as a fighter, No, there's no question about. He's

1490
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: a physical player. I mean I like him. I like him.

1491
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: I think that we watch him play delivers a blow.

1492
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: And again, you know, first of all, we've talked about

1493
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: it already. This team loves the draft linebackers. It's like

1494
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: their favorite thing in the world. And on top of that,

1495
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: you know they they're stacked right now. But Joe Thomas

1496
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: contract year, Sean Lee contract year. Um, I believe Justin

1497
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: marks Lillar would only signed a one year deal. So

1498
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna have some turnover, right obviously, you

1499
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: know Jalen and and vander Esh they're not going anywhere.

1500
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: Your your starters are pretty intrenched. But it always afford

1501
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: to upgrade the devil. And green Law was voted a

1502
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: senior captain. Uh, you know, he's he's a guy that's

1503
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: battled through a lot of adversity within the foster care

1504
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: system things like that. So I think he's a guy

1505
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: that you're going to look at and say, yeah, got

1506
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: the right attitude. They've got some inside information at Arkansas.

1507
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense. Okay, So Dre Greenlaw is

1508
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: going to be our pick from Arkansas. He's at pick seven,

1509
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 1: two forty one. He's a linebacker there, so that completes

1510
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: our mock draft. Six picks one offensive player, Yeah, six

1511
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: picks one offensive player like once again, Tristan Hill, defensive

1512
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: tackle from Central Florida, Trey Veon Williams, the running back

1513
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: from Texas A and m John Kamitski was the fourth

1514
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: round pick at one twenty eight. Cary Willis was the

1515
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: pick of the safety from Michigan State at one thirty

1516
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: at four one thirty six, Derek Thomas, the cornerback from

1517
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: Baylor that we all seem to like, at five one

1518
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: sixty five, and then Drey Greenlaw, the linebacker five to

1519
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: eleven and a half linebacker from Arkansas at seven two

1520
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: forty one. We think he's gonna play quite a bit

1521
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: of special teams. Some inside information there for the Cowboys.

1522
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: So all right, that would be our draft. Tristan Hill

1523
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: and Trayvion Williams or Taylor Rap Taylor Rap. Yeah, I

1524
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: go with a better player. I go Taylor Rapp and

1525
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: then sign and then somebody that's on the streets right now,

1526
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: let's play. I let the tray beon Williams charge. I

1527
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: will own that. But to play Devil's advocate, there's veteran

1528
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: running backs that are out there. Sure, t J Yelden

1529
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: is unsigned as far as hey, is it Gye healthy?

1530
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: I know he's a free agent. Yeah, I's still with

1531
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: that knee coming off the ACL So so what the

1532
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: What we learned from this though, is that we should

1533
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: be willing if, in fact, Taylor Rap gets close enough

1534
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: to where you can make that move. Go get it

1535
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: where you can, where you can manipulate three ninety and

1536
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: go get him with one Thornhill making it move for Thornhill.

1537
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: I like Rap myself better. Let's say let's say Rap

1538
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 1: goes thirty six, Thornhill is still there. Ye consider that absolutely,

1539
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: we can that. I don't play. I don't think I

1540
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: would do it. You'd rather have Tristan Hill and Treyvin

1541
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: Williams or whatever you're going, or whatever direction I get

1542
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: to go. I just think it's I think it's a

1543
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,440
Speaker 1: weird fit, right, Like I know he helps you get turnovers,

1544
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 1: or he did in college, and he's the better athlete

1545
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 1: than Rap, and he's bigger. But when I'm putting him

1546
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: with Xavier Woods, I'm trusting you to kind of play

1547
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: in the alley and make tackles. And watching one Thornhill

1548
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: do that doesn't build a lot of trust as a

1549
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: consistent finisher. No, I think that's fair. If his technique

1550
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: is not sound, then he'll there will be some broken tackles,

1551
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: no question. I think he also gives him some Xavier

1552
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: Woods insurance. Yeah, because if Xavier Woods does not turn

1553
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: out to be you know, locked down, that starting job. Well,

1554
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: then wan Thornhill moves to the free and you're getting

1555
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: a box safety. So there's some added you know, that

1556
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: versatility there to be an interchangeable guy again is why

1557
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: one Thornhill could be a first round pick. Okay, well

1558
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: so that yeah, well that's interesting. I thought we would

1559
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: just be happy about sitting there and making picks, but

1560
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: we depends but we kind of feel like though that

1561
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: maybe going up might not be a bad thing for

1562
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: this football team. It just depends on how much you

1563
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: have to pay. Yeah, and who's still there. I'm looking

1564
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: at it, honestly, the free agent running back market. I

1565
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: must not have looked at it in a couple of

1566
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: weeks because it's not as enticing as I remember it being.

1567
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: And I go, maybe you get Dexter Williams in the

1568
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: fourth maybe Justice Hill, but yeah, I get Are you

1569
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: how confident are you if you don't you know, maybe

1570
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 1: Travion Williams isn't overspend, But if you don't do that,

1571
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: are you confident that a guy you draft later can

1572
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: handle that for you? If something were to be New Yversity,

1573
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: Colorado that nobody drafted problems. Yeah, I was banging the

1574
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: taible last year for him. Okay, we're gonna take our break.

1575
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: We're actually gonna take a break, believe not. After all that.

1576
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Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody's effort there and hanging out with but

1577
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Speaker 1: take a break. We're gonna come back. I want to

1578
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: get I want to turn the stage over to the questions.

1579
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Speaker 1: I know you got some Twitter on the two stuff,

1580
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Speaker 1: get into that. Try and finish up this show here.

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Speaker 1: You know from Shaker Tins, we appreciate everybody that's out

1582
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Speaker 1: happy to see everybody that came out today and is

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Uh. I've got about forty minutes

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Speaker 1: left in this show, and uh we're going to uh

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Speaker 1: continue on one of my favorite staples that we do

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Speaker 1: every year. Guys. Uh is uh every show is is

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Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the twenty and so, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, if we can get my guy David Hellman

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Speaker 1: to venture back onto the stage and not break his ankle. Oh, Dave,

1634
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Speaker 1: better athletic moves. I've seen better athletic moves. Oh you didn't.

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Speaker 1: You didn't like my vertical, didn't like At Angeles raft.

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Speaker 1: But thank you, Dane, Yeah, thank you very much, sir.

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Speaker 1: But yeah we got we got Twitter on the twenty

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Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know if you have that crazy

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Speaker 1: sounder that we usually use, but maybe not Twitter or

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Speaker 1: Twitter twenty. There you go, So Dave, take it away,

1641
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Speaker 1: take it on the way on the Twitter on the

1642
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Speaker 1: twenty fours. Take well, this is perfect timing from Alex.

1643
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we covered this before the break,

1644
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: but I'm curious. So I'm curious if that were to

1645
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: actually happen, and that's he says, would you consider Tristan

1646
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 1: Hiller reach at fifty eight? I mean, if that's actually

1647
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: where they go, how do you feel about that? If

1648
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: you consider that a reach? I would. I think it's

1649
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: important to consider that. With that draft that we did,

1650
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,799
Speaker 1: we're trying to make it realistic for the Dallas Cowboys

1651
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to Hey, what do you think of the

1652
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: players and who would you pick? Because brought us just

1653
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: told you that Triston Hill was his sixty seventh player,

1654
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: which means, no matter how the draft went, he's got

1655
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: at least eight players left that he would take over.

1656
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. Yeah, and I think that's probably where I

1657
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: would have him, somewhere between sixty five and eighty something

1658
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, in in that range, right, I mean

1659
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, And again it's not just about the talent,

1660
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: it's you have to make sure you're comfortable with the player,

1661
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: the football character and everything that comes with them. So

1662
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: they're doing their due diligence on them, and as long

1663
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: as they're comfortable to character, I fully understand the pick.

1664
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: If if that's it where they go at fifty eight. Yeah,

1665
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: so I mean I'm I'm okay with it because you know,

1666
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: in talking with Rod Miranelli about the player himself, Rod

1667
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: really likes his kid a lot. I mean, he and

1668
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see with and when that night

1669
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: in the war room we always get to we'll talk about, Okay,

1670
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: who the coach is standing in the back of the room.

1671
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: If it's Rod Marinelli, Chris Richard, you know, Okay, is

1672
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: it gonna be the corner, There's gonna be a safety,

1673
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be defensive tackle. But I just think they

1674
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: liked this kid a lot, and so to them, that's

1675
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: probably not a reach. To the panel, maybe it is

1676
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach, but I don't I

1677
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think they believe that maybe

1678
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: we do a little bit more. Here's a question from

1679
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: Sam which again kind of touches on the theme of

1680
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: the mock draft. He says, it seems like the assumption

1681
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: has been we're drafting two defensive players on Day two.

1682
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: Nobody's making a big enough deal out of the offense

1683
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 1: having trouble scoring last year. Basically, how big of a

1684
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: surprise would it be if they're offensive minded on day two?

1685
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: And what makes me think that is Deebo Samuel being

1686
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Would they really bypass a far superior

1687
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: offensive player just in the name of drafting defense, because

1688
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: that goes contrary to what everyone says you're always supposed

1689
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: to do about your draft. I think that's how you

1690
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: make massive mistakes. So are we not giving enough credence

1691
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: to the thought that they might really draft the best player.

1692
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: I do think that this team is set up to

1693
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: pick the best player available. I think if a safety

1694
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: falls in your l app that's towards the very top

1695
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: of your board, then that would be perfect for them,

1696
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: that would be their ideal scenario. But I mean, I

1697
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: think you're good at receiver. You're not good at running back,

1698
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: but you can fix it other places if you need to.

1699
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: You're good at quarterback, you're good on the offensive line,

1700
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: you're good in the secondary maybe minus the safety. You're

1701
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: great at linebacker, you're good on the defensive line. You

1702
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything. So I would feel weird

1703
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: if they forced to pick. But here's the thing. When

1704
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about it, pick fifty eight best available, Like,

1705
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're talking about one clear guy.

1706
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about like a group of players,

1707
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: and I think you're talking about a receiver, you're talking

1708
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: about defensive time, you're talking about you know, a handful

1709
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: of receivers at that point, I don't know one fifty

1710
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 1: or at two fifty eight. If you feel this is

1711
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: a clearly our best player on the board, I think

1712
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: things get a little muddled and you're deciding between four

1713
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: or five players. Well, teams have their board, like I

1714
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: would imagine they'll have them made like the one will

1715
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: make where you'll see first round, second round, third round.

1716
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: But in each individual round, will they have him stacked?

1717
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: I think that's what if you do just point to

1718
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: the top, yeah, right, what the what the cowboys will

1719
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: do is my experience. Again, the last time I was

1720
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: in a war room within was two thousand and five,

1721
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: so but I know there's a lot of similarity and

1722
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: what they did back then to what they do now,

1723
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: and it's it's by round, by position, and then what

1724
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: they go off of is the stack. Okay, it's say

1725
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: they have one hundred and fifty names on that board.

1726
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: It'll be they take their top player and then their

1727
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: player at one fifty, and then they'll stack it vertical board.

1728
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: So you got it by position, by round, but then

1729
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: you got it by actually by players. So that's how

1730
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: they separate, you know. For example, you know there might

1731
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 1: be guys two guys that have a grade of a

1732
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: low grades win on their board. So if a guy

1733
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: is a one one point zero zero, then the next

1734
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: guy might have a one point zero five, you know,

1735
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: and that's how they'll stack them down that board. So

1736
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: that's that kind of is the way that they bring

1737
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: them in the order of how they would want to

1738
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: do it. So a month ago, you had a five

1739
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: alarm panic attack because Damien Harris visited the team and

1740
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: you're preparing for them to draft a running back at

1741
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: fifty eight. Yeah, seventy two hours before they go on

1742
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: the clock. You're just just you're throwing an offense out

1743
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: the window as a possibility. I think that they brought

1744
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: Damien Harrison as if they got wiped out. Yeah, but

1745
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: I do. I think they're I think they're thinking if

1746
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: they lost all their if they lost all their defensive

1747
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: players that they wanted, maybe they maybe they think that

1748
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Damien Harris, like Jeff had pause about taking Hill. Yeah,

1749
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think we all had pause about taking him.

1750
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: Maybe on their board, Damien Harris is a higher rated player.

1751
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: Maybe when they do the stack that Damien Harris's grade

1752
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: might be a one to five and then and then

1753
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Hill's grade is a one two nine, and there's a

1754
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: there's a gap, you know, and they're gonna say, Okay,

1755
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: we're not gonna jump We're not gonna jump Hill just

1756
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: because we need a defensive tackle, or maybe they do

1757
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: do that. I just that that's where that happened to

1758
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: him one time. And basically, my buddy Thom Siskowski lost

1759
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: his position, and it was it was the it was

1760
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: the Shari Floyd draft where they had Sharie Floyd as

1761
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: a top five player, the defensive tackle from Florida, and

1762
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: they jumped him. They could did a complete jump, you know,

1763
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: and took somebody completely different. And I that was Tom's

1764
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: last draft, you know, and so I I just don't

1765
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: see them doing that. A great example of that was

1766
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: when Zack Martin was taken. You know, they had Martin, Manziel,

1767
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: all those guys, and then you know, my uh Chesier

1768
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: goes right ahead of him. What's the next player they took?

1769
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: They pointed the board and said, okay, Zack Martin, boom

1770
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: they you know, that's a great example of them just

1771
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: following the order they had. I'm I'm I'll be curious

1772
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: to see because we took a defensive player because we

1773
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,560
Speaker 1: think that's what we want, what they want to do.

1774
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: I think that is what they want to do. We

1775
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 1: should be shocked that they can offensive. We shouldn't be shocked.

1776
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: If we shouldn't be shocked if they take a running back,

1777
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be shot. I don't know, that's I know,

1778
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I though I will be shocked

1779
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: if they take a running back, even if we shouldn't be.

1780
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: They brought in receivers, will be is a receiver in

1781
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: your time? Okay, the thirty visits, if you had to

1782
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: rank them of the rank of the thirty visits, Is

1783
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel a higher radio player on your board than

1784
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Damien Harris? Yes, yes, he's very comfortable. Maybe they think

1785
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Damian Harris will make it to ninety. I may wouldn't.

1786
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, I don't have the same context you

1787
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,799
Speaker 1: guys do. Just on my watching, I wouldn't be surprised

1788
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: at all, right, I would. Yeah, I wouldn't like that

1789
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: pick at fifty eight for any team. I'd be okay

1790
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: with it. Fifty eight for a running back needy team,

1791
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: but not this team. Do you have him as a

1792
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: straight two or two three? I gave him two because

1793
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: I think he can't do everything. That's I haven't missed

1794
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: two as well. Damien Harris is a seventy five percent

1795
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: version of Zeke. That that's how I view him. See

1796
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: that's maybe what maybe you know with with that, Maybe

1797
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: there's a scout in that room making that exact argument

1798
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: for putting him up there on that board. I did

1799
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: go into panic attack. No freaked out. No, I freaked

1800
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 1: out because I'm thinking, why are they bringing a second

1801
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: round running back in her to visit? Maybe? You know,

1802
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 1: I I that's freak. Maybe they don't think he's a

1803
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: second round running back, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe

1804
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 1: they think they don't get him in third round. Right,

1805
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: and and and according to their mock draft, we got

1806
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: a running back though in the third round. Right. I

1807
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: hate to keep beating this drum. I'm really sorry, but

1808
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: like nobody thinks that you can get Debo in the

1809
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: third round. No, no, no, no, no, no, no way.

1810
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: And they really don't think they're going to a shout

1811
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: out him a fifty eight. Yeah, I think he's gonna

1812
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 1: be off the board in the top. Okay, shouts out

1813
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: to our buddy, Trevor. Shout out to Kelsey. Charles had

1814
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 1: just rolled into bad Chuck. All right, Chuck, Trevor shouts

1815
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: out to him. Came out here, asked us these questions directly. Yes,

1816
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: I usually do. Tell me more. I'm gonna let him

1817
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: do it. He's got three guys, Okay, Uh, tell me more,

1818
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Tell Trevor more. Are about Caleb Wilson, the UCLA tight end.

1819
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: Somebody else take that one, please, he's your favorite player,

1820
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: Jeff Caleb. Wilson had almost a thousand yards as a

1821
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: tight end and he ran a four or five six

1822
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: ye So off of those numbers and saying he's six

1823
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: four two thirty five, my initial impression if you just

1824
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: gave me his stats, his forty time and his size

1825
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: would be that he goes on day two watching his tape.

1826
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: If he were in the seventh round, I would consider it. Wow,

1827
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: I gave a PFA grade, So I'm with him. Yeah, Okay.

1828
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: It's really weird because you see the numbers on the

1829
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 1: guys and then you watch him play and like Drew

1830
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: Sample at Washington, would you have three hundred yards yeah,

1831
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: twenty something catches. I'd take him three or four rounds

1832
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: ahead of ahead of Wilson, and it's just I don't know,

1833
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: it's weird like that. Sometimes, you know, you watch him

1834
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: play and it's weird that they schemed him open on

1835
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: basically one yard drag routes all the time and would

1836
01:31:58,120 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: throw him the ball. But there was nothing I saw

1837
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 1: that was like, man, that guy's gonna be really good

1838
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: on Sundays because I don't like stiff athletes who have

1839
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,600
Speaker 1: inconsistent ball skills, you know, And that's that's why for me,

1840
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: he's way down the list and he'll be overdraft. If

1841
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 1: he's drafted, he'll be overdrafted. Put it like that. Yeah,

1842
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: I didn't. Which it's weird for a power five tight

1843
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: end with almost a thousand, so I understand the question.

1844
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: But he's a big guy that doesn't play with very

1845
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: much power. That's that that that's a that's a big, big, big,

1846
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: big problem. And I think that you also, he doesn't

1847
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: play with much balance, you know. That's another thing. I mean,

1848
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: if you're tighten, my titan's playing out of balance. I'm

1849
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan at all. So who else we

1850
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: got on that? How about Mark Fields, the corner out

1851
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: of Clemson. Dane mentioned him briefly yea during the mock

1852
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: He's he's weird because he did not see the field

1853
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot at Clemson, but when he was on the field,

1854
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,759
Speaker 1: he seemed to make plays. You know, He's an undersized

1855
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: slot guy. He's under five two pounds, speedy, forty three

1856
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: seven at the combine, but what six career starts, one interception?

1857
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Just not a productive guy couldn't get on the field.

1858
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 1: I know Clemson is a loaded program, but at the

1859
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: same time, if you're a good player, you find the field.

1860
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 1: They play in a rotating system to a corner, though,

1861
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 1: didn't they Because I remember watching Mullen, you felt like

1862
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: they were why is he off? You know, and it

1863
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: was one of those things kind of they were trying

1864
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: to find It's like they felt like that they needed

1865
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: to play, like they had so many kids and they

1866
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 1: felt bad about not playing them. You know, they just

1867
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: didn't want to sit guys well. And what really helped

1868
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Mark Fields as when he went the Senior Bowl, right,

1869
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: he was a late invite to the Senior Bowl, and

1870
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 1: he really had a chance of show out there and

1871
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: he had a good week and that's what really helped him.

1872
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: That's why we're talking about Mark Fields as someone who's

1873
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna be drafted somewhere on Day three. And you know

1874
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: remember his father, Mark Fields. Yeah, yeah, the Saints. Yeah.

1875
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: I was a linebacker from Washington round pick. Yeah, Washington State.

1876
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: That those bloodlines, yeah, exactly, all right, there's one more, yeah,

1877
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: one last. Mike Edwards, the safety out of Kentucky. He

1878
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 1: might be my favorite safety of the non mainstream safeties.

1879
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about the same six or

1880
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: seven guys in the second round. Mike Edwards is the

1881
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: guy in the third round that once you get wiped

1882
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: out at every other your safety options. I love Mike

1883
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 1: Edwards in that spot. Really productive both as a run

1884
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: defender and in coverage. He can run a guy that's

1885
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: been out of sight out of mind a little bit

1886
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: because he's been hurt. But when he's during the pre

1887
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: draft process, but when he's on the field, he makes plays. Yeah,

1888
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: I think that. You know what I liked about him

1889
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 1: was I loved how the guy hit. I mean, and

1890
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's one of those guys that it's

1891
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: not afraid to draw a flag. You know, he'll take

1892
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: He'll take a shot at you in the middle of

1893
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: the field. And I thought that was I thought that

1894
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: was really kind of admirable about him, though, But you know,

1895
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: he needs to me he needs to do a better

1896
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: job of coverage in the red zone. That's where I

1897
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: saw him get exposed a little bit. And in the

1898
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: field he seemed to do better. But the smaller the space,

1899
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: the more trouble he had covering. And then I worry

1900
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: about him giving that up down there when you get

1901
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: in the red zone, you know, Elison, you put you

1902
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: put a safety in coverage and then he's given up play.

1903
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: So I was I was a little bit more uh

1904
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: that that bothered me, But I didn't think he played

1905
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: with very much smoothness to it was another thing. Kind

1906
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: of was a herky jerky kind of a player. And

1907
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 1: I my safety is to be able to play with

1908
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: that range, get over make plays, but have a little

1909
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: bit smoothness about him. There were three players in this

1910
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: draft who have over three hundred tackles and over ten

1911
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: interceptions in their career. He's one of them. So ideally

1912
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 1: he's your third safety on your roster, right, you know,

1913
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: a nickel guy, dime guy. Uh. They asked him to

1914
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: do a lot like he seemed like he watching him,

1915
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: I felt like he played single high, he played down,

1916
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: he's covering the flats. He's kind of kind of all

1917
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: over the place. But did you see him though, man,

1918
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: when he had to really turn and go. Because I

1919
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 1: saw a guy that labored. That's what I'm worried about it.

1920
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: He was like laboring to get to the ball. That's

1921
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 1: why I kind of liked him because the other part

1922
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 1: is I felt like he was hit you. That's the

1923
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: best thing about him. I feel like he was almost

1924
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: kind of an anxious player, where when when I see

1925
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: him in average, I felt like, the first move he's coming,

1926
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: the first anything, he's coming. And a lot of times

1927
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: that's not where you need to be. Yea, but he did.

1928
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean Dane's right, he was productive. Um So yes,

1929
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: I like him and I would worry about him. Third

1930
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: fourth round. I love I love this thought exercise. Cowboys

1931
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: aren't picking Thursday as far as we know, don't care.

1932
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna be live streaming in anyway, so yeah, please

1933
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: join us. Here's here's a question from Bryant. If this

1934
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:34,759
Speaker 1: card smokescreen is real and they're not sold on picking

1935
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, which I don't really believe for the record,

1936
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: but let's just say that they're serious if they pass.

1937
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: If Arizona passes on Kyler Murray, where does he get

1938
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 1: drafted Oakland four? Not? You don't not, Miami, Do we

1939
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: see a trade up the Jets one out of there?

1940
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: The Jets at the third pick overall are trying like

1941
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: heck to get out of it, trying to get out

1942
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: of it, like Mike wants that second round pickbacks something

1943
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 1: insane to get up to get up to three. I mean,

1944
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: who else needs one in that in that well? The Giants,

1945
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: Giants Steward seven. Yeah, Gettleman probably hates Murray. If I

1946
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 1: had to guess, I think that. I think actually Oakland

1947
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: sitting in a pretty good spot because I think John.

1948
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: I think John likes both. I think he likes both him,

1949
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 1: and I think he likes Haskins too. Do you think

1950
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: that they would move up from four to three just

1951
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: to guarantee they get their guy? That seems like something

1952
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: that John would do. Just just did it two years ago. No, no, no,

1953
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: it seems like something that John would do. I don't know.

1954
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 1: I might let that. I'm I'm I'm gonna guarantee. I'm

1955
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: thinking that somebody is not gonna offer mcagnan enough at

1956
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: three to make that trade. I think that, Okay, hear

1957
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: me out on this, a Rams deal, an Eagles deal.

1958
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: But we saw for Carson Wins and those guys, right,

1959
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't see somebody making that kind of deal with

1960
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: the Jets. Don't either, And the Jets are just gonna

1961
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: sit there and pick the player. See, I don't I

1962
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: don't either. But same time, I also know the Jets

1963
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: are desperate to get out of there, and that worries me.

1964
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,759
Speaker 1: So if I'm the Raiders and I see a quarterback,

1965
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: I want Okay, Okay, if they're desperate and they're willing

1966
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: to take the low market value to get out of there,

1967
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: which I think they are, then if that's the case,

1968
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: then you then you need to be worried. But okay, well,

1969
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 1: the will the Jet will the will the Raiders be

1970
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: able to offer enough just to move up one spot?

1971
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,839
Speaker 1: Or they definitely can offer enough. They have a boatload

1972
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: of picks, right, but but but but do you want

1973
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: to if you're the Jets, do you want someone coming

1974
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: from the middle of the board like the Dolphins to

1975
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: like to to take all the to get all their picks. Well,

1976
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: that's what you want. But if that offers not there,

1977
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 1: well that's what I'm saying though, That's what I'm saying.

1978
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 1: You you you know you would you better off if

1979
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 1: you can't get if you're just gonna get one pick

1980
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: from moving down? Is that is that enough? Oh? Yeah,

1981
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I would, gladly, I would. Is that getting out of there? Yes?

1982
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 1: I would gladly. You're you're getting A. You're not taking

1983
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, so you're gonna get a four take six

1984
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: to five. To me, I think good Will Grewon would

1985
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: take either one of those quarterbacks. I really do. I

1986
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: think he would take either one of those guys. So

1987
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: are you Are you saying that Dwayne Haskins is gonna

1988
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: go forth? Then that's kind of what you're saying kind

1989
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: of No, I could. It's the Raiders. For God's sake. Hey,

1990
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: I want you to say. I need to put together

1991
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: my final mock draft, so I need your help here. No, absolutely,

1992
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: it mean Dweyne Haskins. Do you think I think Green

1993
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 1: would do? I think he's looking at either one of

1994
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks that's been having some late night phone conversations

1995
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: with your old friends. Who's who's a fourth or fifth

1996
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,680
Speaker 1: round tackle prospect? If history is an indication that's who

1997
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: they'll take. That's mean I'm just telling you that. I'm

1998
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: just telling you though, that I think he would. He's

1999
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 1: looking at both those quarterbacks. I really do. Do you

2000
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 1: think do you think that Kyler Murray really won't go

2001
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: one overall? Anybody? No? Anybody? No, I think he's going

2002
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: I think he's going to number one. Okay, and I

2003
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: think the Bosa goes too, and the draft starts at

2004
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 1: number three with the Jets. I think I agree with that.

2005
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know who knows who's pick and third

2006
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: is the Jets or someone else, but it'll be interesting.

2007
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 1: Here's a Homer question from my homies, Aaron and Julie Murray. Okay,

2008
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 1: we already talked about Stanley Morgan Junior, but what about

2009
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Divine oh zigbo combines back. Yeah, he's a hard charger who,

2010
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 1: uh it doesn't always look smooth like it. It's not

2011
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, his cuts aren't beautiful in that, but he

2012
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: finds ways to be productive after first contact. Uh. Dallas

2013
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: day kid, right, and he's one He's one of like

2014
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: like eight players this year who had over seven yards

2015
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: of carry. Yeah, so he's really productive. Uh. He's a

2016
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: guy that in the late fifth round, sixth round, that's

2017
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: where you start considering him with these other running backs.

2018
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the few one day three

2019
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: who is a legitimate three down player at the running

2020
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 1: back position. I feel like I'm I'm betraying myself because

2021
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: like my anti running back tendencies are starting to come back,

2022
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 1: Like after I let the charge on Trevion Williams. I'm like,

2023
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a guy on day three that we

2024
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: can get to backup Zekes. Gotta be go to zigbo

2025
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: gets zigbo at in the fifth round? Here we go, Yeah,

2026
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Justice Hill, Maybe yeah, Exter Williams. But all right, So

2027
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: if again, if that's the theory, then we just need

2028
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,719
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys need to move ninety. Then I kinda

2029
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: they need to move ninety. I mean coming around, I'm

2030
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of I'm kind of getting there. Like if you

2031
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: tell me that we can get a safety we really

2032
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: love at fifty and it's gonna cost us ninety, go

2033
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: get them? Think I I think I was exercise turned

2034
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: the quarter for you. I like that more than drafting

2035
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: two players that I feel about. Yeah, I like that.

2036
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: But what if they were going to pick two players

2037
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: that you didn't feel about? What if what if? Yeah?

2038
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: What if win them was debot? Then I'm then we're

2039
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: just running the flag through the streets, press swinging it around. Uh,

2040
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: he was not gonna be there. So what do you

2041
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 1: think about the Nebraska kid? The runner? Tell you what

2042
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: I was interested and tell me always combined snub so

2043
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: I would have to learn this from pro day because

2044
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 1: I thought on tape I was kind of impressed with

2045
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: the way he caught the ball. There were a few

2046
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: where it looks easy turning around, yeah, and grabbing it,

2047
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: usually on the wheel routes. Even got down on the

2048
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: sideline once. So like, I don't know for six foot

2049
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 1: and two thirty three, it's weird because I didn't think

2050
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 1: he consistently ran with a great pad level, Like nothing

2051
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 1: about it quite looked right. But the results were right right,

2052
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 1: and he was able to break tackles and he was

2053
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: able to make it hard to bring him down. So like,

2054
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: just because it didn't look right is the way the

2055
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: reason that I would have him somewhere around the fifth round. Yeah,

2056
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 1: the way I described it is he doesn't like make

2057
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: hard cuts and like make guys miss. He is he

2058
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,600
Speaker 1: is a straight line runner in my opinion though, he

2059
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: really really is, and I think that I think he

2060
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: has to have he gets what the line blocks. If

2061
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: they block for him, he's gonna get yards. If they

2062
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: don't block, he's gonna have problems. That's kind of where

2063
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 1: I saw this guy. I think he's one of the

2064
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: few on day three that you look out and say

2065
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: he is a legitimate guy that can be a three

2066
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: down or any down back. It doesn't matter what down.

2067
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: He can go out there and you know, be a

2068
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: reliable player for us. I know we talked. We talked

2069
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: about him last week, and I apologize by Cowboys fans

2070
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: seem kind of obsessed with this guy, which is interesting

2071
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:20,799
Speaker 1: to me because there's virtually no noise about him. Draymond

2072
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Speaker 1: Jones fifty eight. If for some reason that comes to pass,

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Speaker 1: is that something we're not talking about the man his

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Speaker 1: second air but in his teeth right now, so which

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01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 1: we initially I don't know if I stay three techniques. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he tackle. I don't know if people remember months ago,

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01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 1: but initially I was seeing him in from the first

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Speaker 1: round in bought drafts, and so when I first watched him,

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Speaker 1: I was like, holy cow, the world is insane because

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01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: you can see the ability to win sort of with

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Speaker 1: quickness and rush the passer. But I also saw a

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01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: guy that when you snapped the ball, stands straight up

2083
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: and like, please wash me out of this play. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of work to do,

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01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 1: and there's some tools to work with, and even at

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Speaker 1: fifty eight, that's probably rich for me, he's my fifty

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Speaker 1: six player. So right around fifty eight is I feel comfortable?

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Speaker 1: But didn't we say last week that you kind of

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Speaker 1: think he'll go higher than that. I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 1: he's fell out of the top forty. Yeah, right around there. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I think this draft is also it's so weak

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Speaker 1: as like those three techniques. That's why we have to

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Speaker 1: take Triston Hill at fifty eight, right, It's why Draymond

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01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 1: Jones has a chance to go late first round, early

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Speaker 1: second round. Is the three techniques just they're not there

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Speaker 1: here where Shakerton's and I'm looking up at the screen.

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Speaker 1: The ESPN's doing their writer's mockt Yeah, they're doing the

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Speaker 1: writer's mock. And your guy, Brian Burns just with the

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Speaker 1: Carolina at sixteen. That's I mean that it's about where

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go. You and I are. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the one I'm gonna wear probably the world.

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Speaker 1: According to Brian says, he'll be in play for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys it fifty Brian, you just gonna come around to

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01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: realize that the pass rush is more important. I don't

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Speaker 1: like the guy, and that's exactly why Draymond Jones is

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01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna go higher. I think I know so in a

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Speaker 1: world where he in a world where and if that's

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Speaker 1: if he's there, is that something we're not talking about,

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Speaker 1: Like should we be considering him? I mean, I've heard

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01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: next to nothing about they're not doing work on him.

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Speaker 1: They didn't bring him in, But is that something we

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Speaker 1: should be thinking about. I don't think he's gonna make

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Speaker 1: it that far, so I think it's smoot. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, if he's there, heck yeah, And like

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Speaker 1: I said, I have a fifty six to overall on

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Speaker 1: my board, so I'd be good with it. Brontess would

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Speaker 1: be good with it. Jeff would be. He have to

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Speaker 1: warm up to it. Yeah, you have to. We have

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Speaker 1: to get him there. Yeah, Jeff can go back and

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Speaker 1: watch the tape. We're putting our board together. Watch him

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Speaker 1: the tape, sir, and I won't stand for your insults.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a blood bat tonight over at

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Speaker 1: the start getting ready for that, That's all I got

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Speaker 1: to be honest. You got yeah, all right, Well this

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Speaker 1: we'll take one final break and let everybody take a

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Speaker 1: pull off through Miller lights, and then when we come back,

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Speaker 1: I want to go through some rumors, some things that

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Speaker 1: we might be hearing. What are some lies? What are

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Speaker 1: some truths? Where are we going in this thing? As

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Speaker 1: we get really close to this draft, so we're right

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Speaker 1: want to thank the folks at Shakerton for allowing us

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Speaker 1: fifty years old, you know, just terrorizing people. I bet

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Speaker 1: you were, yeah, exactly, you know, guys um and again

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Speaker 1: everybody at tom Board here, we've got to David Hellman

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Speaker 1: and Dame Burgler, myself, Bryan brought us, and then Jeff

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Speaker 1: kavan Off from one oh five three, Jeff and I

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Speaker 1: and Katie are gonna put together our one oh five

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Speaker 1: three the fan board tonight, so there'll be some battling

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Speaker 1: going on at the Star for that with some of

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Speaker 1: these names. I'm not looking forward to this because I

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01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: have a feeling I know where this direction is gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Just to kind of give you an idea too a

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Speaker 1: little bit. This week, we've got the We got the

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Speaker 1: draft completely covered for you guys. We encourage you. You know,

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Speaker 1: they'll have it on TV and stuff. But well, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have it all three days. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have it Thursday night, Friday nights, and Saturday all day.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have all the picks. How many picks

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Speaker 1: we got, two hundred and fifty four, two hundred fifty four,

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Speaker 1: So we will have analysis of every pick by every team,

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Speaker 1: the ones we like, the ones we don't like. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have guests and stuff at the at the Star. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Three of my favorite days of every year. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: so much fun. I love what's the fourth one? Oh gosh,

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01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's Jena put this one, Yeah, the Giant Jena. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's my three favorite days of the year that don't

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Speaker 1: actually involve football being played. Put it that way. What

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Speaker 1: I love about this draft is it's gonna be unpredictable.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be stuff going on in the first round

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01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: that we don't see coming. And that's what makes it fun.

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Speaker 1: No problem if I, you know, go over thirty two

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Speaker 1: on my mock draft, fine with that. But you're one

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Speaker 1: of the best. You and Daniel Jeremiah the NFL never

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01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,640
Speaker 1: two of the best mock drafts in the country. My

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Speaker 1: percentage is gonna take a hit this year. So it

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Speaker 1: is it's tough this year? Is it? Because is it

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01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? You're worried about the quarterbacks? After say Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray goes one, who's the second quarterback off the board?

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Speaker 1: And where does he go? What pick? Yeah? I mean

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Speaker 1: I think all four, Dwayne Haskins, Daniel Jones, Drew Locke,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna come off the board in the top twenty

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01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: twenty five picks. It's trying to figure out where's that

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01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 1: landing spot gonna be. And I don't there's so there's

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Speaker 1: no consensus. There's some teams that really like Drew Locke.

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Speaker 1: I'm really like Daniel Jones, So I'm like Dwayne Haskins.

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Speaker 1: It's just I've heard that those rumors. I'd be shocked

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Speaker 1: if it happened. I just to me. I see Will Greer,

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Speaker 1: and we taught me these quarterbacks. I see Will Griers

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01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 1: being probably the most accurate of the throwers. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the strongest arm, but I think he's really accurate.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people are giving him enough credit for that.

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Speaker 1: His issue is decision making like that. That's I just

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Speaker 1: don't think he has the decision making to go in

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Speaker 1: the first round. If you're if you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you want to see the Giants take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback? Which quarterback do you want to see them take? Realistically?

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Daniel freaking Jones? Right? You with one on

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Do you like Daniel Jones alive? Well? The

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Speaker 1: problem is I kind of like all of them, and

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Speaker 1: I don't like doing the I like to hate quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'd like to hate me hating quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 1: had to. It took me a while to decide on

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Speaker 1: my order, and I still don't feel great about it.

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01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: But I've got Locke, Career and Jones all pretty similar.

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01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: I think they're all good at different things, and I

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01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: could see any one of them ending up being a

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Speaker 1: good NFL quarterback depending on where they end up. I

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Speaker 1: don't know which one I bet against the most. I

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01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: think they're all coin flips. Tell me where they go,

2252
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: tell me how they're protected, and tell me who's coaching them.

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01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't have a dream guy for the Giants, and

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01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, he won't make it. I could see

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones making it as an NFL quarterback, sure, I

2256
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: totally could, but he's in the Eli Manning mold though,

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Speaker 1: you know, like where David Cutcliff the coach coach, right. Yeah,

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01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: that's why we're hearing the Giants and Daniel Jones rumors

2259
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,560
Speaker 1: because it just makes too much sense to following the

2260
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: Manning Manning way. But yeah, trying to figure out who

2261
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are gonna go is the toughest part. When

2262
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: you map out the first round, it's anybody's guess, and

2263
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a trade somewhere early that's gonna throw

2264
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Speaker 1: off and break everyone's mock for the rest of the

2265
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Speaker 1: round exactly. And even that's trying to figure out is

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Speaker 1: it gonna be the top ten is it gonna be?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd love to see the Bengals go after

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01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 1: a Dwayne Haskins, you know, yeah, right, and he don't

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01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: and he don't shown he's not taking this team to

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01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You bring in a young quarterback like

2271
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Dayne Haskins, let him sit on the bench for a

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01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: year behind Andy Dalton. It makes sense. Yeah, but Miami

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01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins probably gonna wait till next year. That's what most

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Speaker 1: people in the league believe is gonna happen. Washington, I'd

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Speaker 1: be surprised that they've finished this draft weekend without a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: A new quarterback now that could be Josh Rosen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I were them, it would be Josh ro Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least if the rumors are true about

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Speaker 1: what it costs. If I'm picking and I can use

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Speaker 1: my second round pick to get Josh Rosen, you can

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01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: forget these first round quarterback twenty twenty second rounder and

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01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Case Keenum would get it done done. It's insane to me,

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01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 1: how I know. You know, draft picks are like Case

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01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: Keen played in four Cliff Kingsbury right at that, Houston, Right, Yeah,

2285
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 1: draft picks are like cars. They lose value as soon

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01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 1: as you pick them. But like the way that people

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01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 1: have just cast Josh Rosen aside as being helpless is insane.

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01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 1: And they did the same thing to Jared Goff. But

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01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: the thing is with Josh Rosen. If he doesn't but

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01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: even going back to last year, if he doesn't go

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01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: what nine over our ten overall to the Cardinals, where's

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01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: he go? You know? Like I just think back, it's

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01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: hard to figure out because not everyone had a first

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01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 1: round grade on him, um, and so I thought he

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 1: was Matt Ryan. He still could be. That's my points.

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01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: What happened to Jeff's guy when when the coach showed

2297
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: up at the Rams so exactly that's I would love

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01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: to think Rosen can't play because he was bad for

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01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: on the worst team in football that has no clue

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01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 1: what they're doing and has no talent. That would be

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01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: I would be I would be much If we're thinking

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01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: about this from a Cowboys standpoint, I would be much

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01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 1: more afraid of New York or Washington parting ways with

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01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 1: a second round pick to put him on their team

2305
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 1: then taking a chance on Daniel Chef. You're the Cowboys. Sure,

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01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 1: if you had the Cowboys, you had your twenty seventh pick.

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01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: Would you trade it for Josh ros Oh gosh, why

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01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: are we You don't Why don't want to do that?

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01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm just asking for me? Is yes, but it just

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01:54:54,920 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: makes people mad. It does man that I don't don't

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01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: have an answer to that, like because you know not

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01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: to make people mad. You're smarter than me. Purely from

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01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 1: like an analytics standpoint, I probably would yes, because Josh

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01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: Rosen in twenty five million dollars for the next three years.

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01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: The savings would allow you to build a much deeper roster.

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01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 1: I think he can be pretty good. But at the

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01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 1: same time, like teams don't do that, teams don't go

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01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: away from it. But this is the one team that

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01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 1: should do that right because they don't. They have a

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01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 1: general manager that's not gonna get fired. At the same

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01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: but you got to think about it from another standpoint too,

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01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 1: this is a team that can't afford to do that

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01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: in the sense of how many Dak Prescott jerseys have

2324
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: been sold over the last three years. You already sold

2325
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 1: do keep selling that stuff? Rosen One's a brand new

2326
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 1: no one has one yet, and nobody's going to be

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01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 1: excited about until he starts winning games. So win games.

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01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: What if he doesn't, that's the point, and everybody gets fired.

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01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 1: I think it is a gamble that nobody has the

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01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: guts to make, including me, until teams start getting the

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01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: guts and I can't wait, someone someone will do it.

2332
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 1: Then it'll be a you know, we never thought a

2333
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: six foot quarterback can go number one overall, Baker Mayfield did. No,

2334
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're gonna have a five eleven

2335
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: quarterback that's being generous, go number one overall, Cala Murray.

2336
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: So like there a day is coming where teams are

2337
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: going to start viewing quarterbacks as expendable assets, but it's

2338
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: not here yet. Like I keep saying, the Cowboys are

2339
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: the one team that can do that because again, these

2340
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: other general managers are trying to pay for their lake houses.

2341
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: You know, this guy's lake house already paid for and

2342
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: then something and he's not Yeah, he's not going anywhere. Yeah,

2343
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 1: But that's why, that's why this team would be the

2344
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 1: example for your right if you had enough confidence that

2345
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: you could pick quarterbacks. Who puts you or think about

2346
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 1: it from Jerry's standpoint, who puts you closer to winning

2347
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Right now? Like in the next three years,

2348
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: is it, Dak or Josh Rosen? Rosen and twenty five

2349
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space? Twenty five million dollars in

2350
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 1: cap space that you can't spend until next You said

2351
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: three years? Though, true, I can carry it over right,

2352
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: keep you. You had to just you had to take

2353
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,160
Speaker 1: us down this No, no, no, we're talking about the

2354
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I've just said if you I'm

2355
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 1: just saying, if the Cowboys had the pick, would you

2356
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 1: do it for fifty eight? Then? Why would you do

2357
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 1: this eight minutes before the show? I'm just asking. It's

2358
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 1: just a question because teams are having to determine if

2359
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 1: they're good what what what do you? What would you

2360
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: give up for Josh Rosen? That's gonna be the question.

2361
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 1: What if you had Josh Rosen as a top five

2362
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 1: player on your board? But again, how many teams like

2363
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: love him or hate him? How many teams have a

2364
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 1: quarterback that's that's taken him in the playoffs twice in

2365
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: three years? Oh no, there's nothing. I mean, Dak, I'm

2366
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: a big fan of deck. I'm just saying, though, if

2367
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: you're a team looking at your and you and and

2368
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 1: the and the Arizona Cardinals are giving you a chance

2369
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 1: to upgrade your quarterback. If you thought, I mean I would.

2370
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at those things, don't you?

2371
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 1: How long into his all right, let's say this, let's

2372
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 1: say this were to happen. How long into his Dallas?

2373
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Sorry Dan? How long into his Dallas tenure? Does it

2374
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 1: take Josh Rosen to be better than Dak Prescott based

2375
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 1: on decks QBR last year? Based on what? Maybe one year?

2376
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: Maybe one? All right? Maybe we don't know. I mean,

2377
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 1: we can't teleport the guys, but we don't know. And

2378
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 1: that's why nobody does it, because it would take a

2379
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: lot of cojones to say you have three years of

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01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 1: club control over Rosen, two of which you're at an

2381
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: extremely affordable price. One is at a moderately affordable price. Verse.

2382
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the value of Josh Rosen here.

2383
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 1: To somebody, I can't believe it's not a first round

2384
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 1: The value of Josh Rosen is a second round pick. Yeah,

2385
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 1: it should be a first but again that's not what

2386
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 1: as soon as you get drafted, you lose value. It's dumb,

2387
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 1: but it's true. Josh Rosen's values what someone's willing to pay,

2388
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 1: that's it. And if all someone's willing to pay the

2389
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: second round or then that's if you're If you're Steve

2390
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: Kime in Arizona, are you gonna be stubborn about this?

2391
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Are you gonna take the Giants second round pick? What's

2392
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 1: your leverage? You gotta get rid of him. If you're

2393
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 1: going to draft Kyler Murray, you gotta get him off

2394
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 1: that roster. Now. I would not be surprised if Kyler

2395
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Murray or if Josh Rosen is still on the roster

2396
01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: after draft weekend. I would not be surprised by that.

2397
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 1: And Josh Rosen's just kind of in limbo for a

2398
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,120
Speaker 1: little bit. If they want to go next year one,

2399
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 1: somebody gets next year's one, well that's not going to happen.

2400
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:09,879
Speaker 1: But they're being an injury so Bradford deal exactly, Teddy Bridgewater.

2401
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna wait for someone to get injured

2402
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna make a move. I still don't

2403
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 1: think it'll be for a first rounder. Isn't that? But

2404
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 1: is going to three something like that? Is that gamble

2405
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 1: worth taking? Like? Won't that be weird for everyone involved?

2406
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 1: It will be very weird in Arizonas. Yeah, it's worth

2407
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 1: it if you think that Kyler Murray's a better quarterback

2408
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: than Josh Rosen. No, but let's say, like, what if

2409
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 1: nobody gets hurt, What if nobody's willing to do that deal,

2410
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 1: they take what you can get. Yeah, Yeah, it's really

2411
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it is an unprecedented situation. Yeah, it's nothing

2412
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: has ever happened like this where a team's gonna draft

2413
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback top ten back to back years and they

2414
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 1: fired their coach chapter one year too. I've got I

2415
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: have I've never met Steve Kime, I have no beef

2416
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 1: with him. I bet he would and calling uber afterwards.

2417
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of shocked that he's got a job

2418
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 1: given the situation the Cardinals are in right now. Yeah,

2419
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 1: and just remember the Cardinals, the way they operate. The

2420
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 1: owner has a lot of saying what happens. Yeah, and

2421
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why I think Kyler Murray

2422
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 1: is going to be the pick aside from Cliff Kingsbury.

2423
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: But the opportunity to sell jerseys, put butts and seats

2424
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 1: eyeballs on your football team, Kyler Murray's gonna do that.

2425
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is not going to do that. And that's

2426
02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 1: why you know Michael Bidwell is going to be a

2427
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 1: big part of decision making for the Cardinals. So that's

2428
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 1: why I think Kyler Murray is going to be the

2429
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 1: top pick. That's all the time we have for today.

2430
02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 1: How about that we just ruin everything in the last no.

2431
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 1: I was just trying to I was just trying to

2432
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 1: find value in uh. I was just trying to find

2433
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 1: value in the quarterback. I'd just like to apologize for

2434
02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 1: the last five minutes. Okay, very sorry. Wait did you

2435
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 1: did you get a big that guy? I hope that

2436
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 1: gets five hundred million in a lake house. Five hundred

2437
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 1: million is a lot big. Well, I'd settle for one

2438
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 1: sixty five. Well, we want we want to thank everybody

2439
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 1: here at Jakinson's for putting up with us for the

2440
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:54,879
Speaker 1: last couple hours. I want to especially thank Ken Garrison

2441
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 1: for setting everything up for us today. We really appreciate

2442
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 1: we appreciate everybody out there that listens to our podcast

2443
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 1: as part of the Draft Show and ask questions and

2444
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: all that to Twitter on the twenties again, We've got

2445
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 1: everything covered for you starting Thursday night all the way

2446
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 1: through the draft just check us out on Dallas Cowboys

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2448
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Speaker 1: gonna do stuff with Jeff and Kat and just kind

2449
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 1: of gets you going for the draft. So again, from

2450
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 1: my scouting buddies, David Hellman, Dame Burglar, Jeff Kavanaugh, I'm

2451
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 1: Brian Brons. Thanks again and can't thank you so much

2452
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 1: for setting everything up. We'll see you guys down the

2453
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: road and we'll finish this journey out this weekend. You guys,

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Speaker 1: take care