Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: and I am so excited not only for this guest today,
Speaker 1: Tracy Tutor for Million Dollar Listing, the star of that show,
Speaker 1: but she's just also a brilliant real estate agent for real.
Speaker 1: I know people think, oh, is that show real? They
Speaker 1: really do it. Yes, it is a very real show
Speaker 1: in that they are selling these multimillion dollar listings. And
Speaker 1: I think if there is a topic to dive into
Speaker 1: right now beyond politics, that is real estate because there's
Speaker 1: so much trepidation right now for first time home buyers.
Speaker 1: How much it costs to get in the market. Should
Speaker 1: you get in the market right now to buy your
Speaker 1: first home or level up or should you just rent?
Speaker 1: Is it a good time to just stay on the
Speaker 1: sidelines and wait for everything to kind of settle out.
Speaker 1: I know that she will have some very strong opinions.
Speaker 1: She's been in this business for decades and is now
Speaker 1: venturing to my neck of the woods. Very much based
Speaker 1: in California, but she's starting to stretch it out into
Speaker 1: the state of Texas. So I have a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about all of that again. The star of Million
Speaker 1: Dollar Listing, she's been on it for years. She also
Speaker 1: just went through a very public breakup we all saw
Speaker 1: on the show, So I want to know what's going
Speaker 1: on with her love life as well. Is that up
Speaker 1: for sale? So Tracy Tudor joins us on the most
Speaker 1: dramatic podcast ever, And Tracy Tudor joins me, Now where
Speaker 1: are you in from today?
Speaker 2: We're in California. Tomorrow we're going to Texas.
Speaker 1: Soll you that's funny. Let's okay, So let's just jump roll,
Speaker 1: let's rip the band aid off. I'm in Texas. I'm
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas right now. I was just in California.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that it's a thousand degrees in California. It's
Speaker 1: oddly cooler in Texas for some reason. But you're starting
Speaker 1: to work in Texas. And we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: Million Dollar Listing in television, but you're starting to work
Speaker 1: in Texas, So let's just start talking real estate. Why
Speaker 1: why you found that Texas is the hotspot to start
Speaker 1: working in real estate.
Speaker 2: I'm I've been pumped about Texas for a while, but
Speaker 2: this really sort of began for me during COVID when
Speaker 2: we were living in LA and on lockdown, and we
Speaker 2: just started to see an enormous amount of people vacating
Speaker 2: Los Angeles in California in general.
Speaker 1: You're looking at one of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right. I think I saw probably fifty million in
Speaker 2: my network, you know, leave the state and go to Texas,
Speaker 2: whether it was Dallas or Austin or Houston. And I
Speaker 2: started to say to myself, well, obviously there's an opportunity
Speaker 2: and I need to take it. And Douglas Ellman, my
Speaker 2: my brokerage, had opened up offices there post COVID, and
Speaker 2: so I immediately got my license and started, you know,
Speaker 2: a team in both Austin and in Dallas, and I
Speaker 2: think fell in love with it as well. You know,
Speaker 2: I've always been a fan of Texas. I've been going
Speaker 2: there since one of my best friends in college grew
Speaker 2: up there to visit. And you know, while I went
Speaker 2: there for the purpose of real estate, I think I've
Speaker 2: really stayed there and I love the people, I love
Speaker 2: the vibe. I love what Austin has to offer. Dallas
Speaker 2: is totally different, sort of reminds me, you know, Highland
Speaker 2: Park reminds me of like the Beverly Hills of Texas.
Speaker 1: And autout totally.
Speaker 2: Austin's like a little bit more, you know, the keep
Speaker 2: Austin weird vibe, and I'm into that as well. So
Speaker 2: I'm having a ton of fun. And now I actually
Speaker 2: have a place there.
Speaker 1: Too, so oh you do. Okay, we're in Dallas, in Dallas.
Speaker 2: And up next, but I'm I'm flying in tomorrow to
Speaker 2: work in Austin for the week. So it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a great city.
Speaker 1: I have a great real estate agent here if you
Speaker 1: need to never mind. Yeah, I grew up in Dallas.
Speaker 1: When I moved back, I still have family in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I'm four generation Dallas, but I moved to Austin with
Speaker 1: Lauren to set up her own life, to kind of
Speaker 1: start a new And you're right, Dallas, Dallas, Austin, Houston,
Speaker 1: San Antonio, and there's other great cities, but kind of
Speaker 1: the Big Four, if you will, are very different, very
Speaker 1: different vibes, very different people, cultures, et cetera. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of fun to kind of travel around and figure
Speaker 1: out where you fit best. Do you think you'll make
Speaker 1: the move permanently to finally become a Texan?
Speaker 2: Well, I do have my I've got a sixteen year
Speaker 2: old daughter and an eighteen year old daughter. So one
Speaker 2: is off to college and she's actually staying in California,
Speaker 2: and my other one has a couple of years left
Speaker 2: of school. And so after Scarlett graduates, depending on where
Speaker 2: she ends up, I think I'll probably spend a lot
Speaker 2: more time there.
Speaker 1: I mean, you sound like you sound exactly like us.
Speaker 1: When our two kids graduated, our son came to TCU,
Speaker 1: then our daughter went to TCU, which is maybe my
Speaker 1: favorite city, Fort Worth. If you've never spent time in
Speaker 1: fort Worth, I'm telling you that is the untapped resource
Speaker 1: in real estate and in Texas.
Speaker 2: I love for Worth a There's a ton of money
Speaker 2: in fort Worth. We've got copy listings there that I'm
Speaker 2: enjoying spending time at. But fort Worth is all so
Speaker 2: a great city.
Speaker 1: It's it's a world apart from Dallas. I mean, I
Speaker 1: grew up in Dallas and we never went to Fort Worth.
Speaker 1: And now my kids have spent so much time there
Speaker 1: at TCU, I have fallen in love with fort Worth,
Speaker 1: and I think if I didn't live in Austin, honestly,
Speaker 1: I would be in fort Worth. It's you, it really
Speaker 1: is and you got you know, you have the uh,
Speaker 1: the stockyards to kind of contemporary downtown, so you get
Speaker 1: it all there. It's a really great vibe. Have you
Speaker 1: ventured into that real estate market at all?
Speaker 2: I have. We actually have a new listing that is
Speaker 2: is going to be coming to market soon. So we've
Speaker 2: been spending quite a bit of time there. And you're
Speaker 2: seeing some really big numbers in Fort Worth. You're seeing
Speaker 2: a lot of development come into Fort Worth, like people
Speaker 2: are spending money. So it's it's a great time to
Speaker 2: be in Texas from a real estate standpoint, and you know,
Speaker 2: you know, comparatively to La Chris, you know, we want,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty expensive real estate here and from a
Speaker 2: foot standpoint, you know, Texas feels like such a value.
Speaker 2: But I think the Texas numbers in the next five years,
Speaker 2: you know, in Austin and Dallas and Fort Worth, especially
Speaker 2: San Antonio, I think we're going to see a lot
Speaker 2: of growth. So that for me is a really exciting
Speaker 2: time because to start seeing things go from fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: dollars a foot, which was expensive, yeah, to say two
Speaker 2: thousand a foot. I don't think that Texas thinks it's
Speaker 2: possible and I'm sort of here to break that.
Speaker 1: I was just out in California and spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time there, have a lot of love for Cali,
Speaker 1: even though I left to come back home, and that
Speaker 1: was always inevitable. I mean, I was definitely urged out
Speaker 1: when I ended up in a toxic relationship with the
Speaker 1: state I was living in. I didn't love the things
Speaker 1: that were taking place. But with that said, it is
Speaker 1: a wonderful place. It's a beautiful state. But I find
Speaker 1: it interesting because just you alone, your own book, you
Speaker 1: said fifty million dollars walked out the door to around Texas, Florida, Nevada.
Speaker 1: That's where all the money went out of California. If
Speaker 1: you alone had fifty million dollars walk out the door,
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say about a billion dollars
Speaker 1: left that state over the last three to four years. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I don't understand how things aren't changing in the real
Speaker 1: estate market or are they Is it going to ever
Speaker 1: drop change? What do you see in the Cali market.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a really complicated time in real estate,
Speaker 2: particularly in Los Angeles. I mean, Cali is a huge state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's five states in one Yeah.
Speaker 2: Exactly, so many micro markets. But if we're talking about
Speaker 2: Los Angeles specifically, there's just a lot of politics surrounding
Speaker 2: the city that are preventing developers from building. We have
Speaker 2: a new Wildlife Ordinance which will sort of decrease the
Speaker 2: number of mansions that we can have in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: which is where the luxury market in bel Air, Beverly Hills,
Speaker 2: Brentwood Palisades, so that's where the bulk of the money is,
Speaker 2: so they're limiting us in terms of what we can
Speaker 2: build there. Obviously, put the ULA tax on any sales
Speaker 2: over ten million dollars at five and a half percent.
Speaker 2: So you're selling your house for twenty million dollars, you're
Speaker 2: paying five percent in commissions. You're paying five and a
Speaker 2: half percent on top of that to the City of
Speaker 2: Los Angeles to solve the homelessness crisis. So that that
Speaker 2: in and of itself is just kind of crushed the
Speaker 2: luxury market and sellers are beginning to wrap their heads
Speaker 2: around it. I think, you know, we were hoping that
Speaker 2: was going to get overthrown and the Supreme Court of
Speaker 2: California said no. So there's just there's challenges on top
Speaker 2: of challenges. In addition, to the crime, and obviously the
Speaker 2: politics in Los Angeles, there's a lot of people wanting
Speaker 2: to leave, but they can't afford to. So that's another
Speaker 2: ledgure to add insult to injury that we're dealing with.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I'm, you know, having such a
Speaker 2: good time in Texas because right now all I see
Speaker 2: is growth. I mean, there's there's incredible growth happening across
Speaker 2: the state. And so for me, yeah, in the next
Speaker 2: three plus years, I think I might find myself doing
Speaker 2: exactly the same thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the tech world has moved to Austin.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, AMD is here, and Elon Musk
Speaker 1: is here with Starlink down in South Padre, and obviously
Speaker 1: Tesla here in Austin. Toyota is up in Dallas. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: I definitely want to get to the TV world. But
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to have you because right now in
Speaker 1: our political world, and we're not going to talk politics,
Speaker 1: but one of the big issues right now in our
Speaker 1: presidential races, we can't buy homes. First time home buyers
Speaker 1: can't get into homes. So give me your advice for
Speaker 1: people that are listening right now that want to buy
Speaker 1: a home. Should we Is this a good time to
Speaker 1: buy a home or is it still a renter's market?
Speaker 1: Because look, three four years ago, as you know, average
Speaker 1: home price was like two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: It's two x that now, yeah, yeah, And I guess
Speaker 1: my question is do you jump in now because it's
Speaker 1: only going to be four x this later? You know,
Speaker 1: it's a what is your advice on first time home
Speaker 1: buyers and how do we make it more affordable?
Speaker 2: Well? Number one, I always will say buy now. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I had this conversation, you know, three years
Speaker 2: ago when we had interest rates at two percent, and
Speaker 2: people were like, I'm going to wait until, you know,
Speaker 2: the market slows because at two percent, you know, homes
Speaker 2: were flying off the market at twenty percent more than
Speaker 2: where they are today, and no one wanted to buy
Speaker 2: then because the home prices were so high and it
Speaker 2: was a hot, hot seller's market. Well now all those
Speaker 2: people are kicking themselves because now interest rates are you know,
Speaker 2: six six and a half percent, seven percent, and now
Speaker 2: they can't afford the flip side of it. And what
Speaker 2: we're not seeing is prices necessarily adjust back in the
Speaker 2: other reaction yet, So I'm always going to say get
Speaker 2: in now, and you don't need to be concerned about
Speaker 2: buying your forever home. It's just your first investment into
Speaker 2: the world of real estate. So whether that's a townhouse
Speaker 2: or a condo or a two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars income property for yourself, get in the game because
Speaker 2: property value will all. It's the greatest asset any single
Speaker 2: person can possibly have. So whether you start today and
Speaker 2: you buy your first investment property for a few hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, in three years from that, pull the equity
Speaker 2: out and buy your next house, and maybe that's the
Speaker 2: house that you can see yourself in for the next
Speaker 2: five years. But there's always going to be growth. And
Speaker 2: while we're in a down market, you're not going to
Speaker 2: move your money around perhaps sell, but the more real
Speaker 2: estate you own is going to give you the ability
Speaker 2: to have passive income in the future, and you're not
Speaker 2: going to be killing yourself at seventy five to make
Speaker 2: ends meet.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I think the thing that needs
Speaker 1: to be adjusted is just what you said, Maybe your
Speaker 1: sites need to aim a little lower and that no,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get the four bedroom in the
Speaker 1: yard for the dog and all that. Maybe it's going
Speaker 1: to be a two bedroom town home and you got
Speaker 1: to swallow your pride a little bit and it sucks,
Speaker 1: but that just gets you in the game. And once
Speaker 1: you're in the game, you will level up quickly. It's
Speaker 1: just that that's history. The history repeats itself, and that
Speaker 1: history has always worked. And I also think, and I
Speaker 1: hope you agree, it's living and buying and staying within
Speaker 1: your means. Don't don't reach that four bedroom if you're
Speaker 1: going to get upside down it if things go wrong,
Speaker 1: start low and gifts getting the game.
Speaker 2: Get in the game. And for people out there right
Speaker 2: now that are kind of kicking themselves and they didn't
Speaker 2: maybe purchase two three years ago and interest rates were lower,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that interest rates aren't going to come down.
Speaker 2: We obviously are seeing interest rates shift slowly down. So
Speaker 2: get yourself in an interest only loan. Maybe that's it
Speaker 2: five and a half to six and a half percent now,
Speaker 2: and when we start to see the thirty year fixed
Speaker 2: model come down, then you can transition into that and refinance.
Speaker 2: But you know, while you have the ability to be
Speaker 2: competitive in a market that might be a little bit softer,
Speaker 2: get in the game, and then you finance in two years.
Speaker 1: Because let's say the Fed they're not going to do this.
Speaker 1: But let's say the FED dropped it to three percent tomorrow,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. There's a buying frenzy. Now you're
Speaker 1: just going to Yeah, now you've got the opposite problem
Speaker 1: where people can jack up the prices of their home.
Speaker 1: So it's it's never going to be perfect. You know,
Speaker 1: you're never going to have that perfect bake, and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to time the market is My friends in the industry,
Speaker 1: I always say it's like trying to catch a falling knife.
Speaker 1: Don't try, You're you're never going to catch it.
Speaker 2: And truthfully, like sitting down, I think first time buyers
Speaker 2: make the mistake of they go out and they just
Speaker 2: start looking what can I think I can afford monthly?
Speaker 2: You really need to sit down with a mortgage broker
Speaker 2: or a trusted financial advisor or a lender and look
Speaker 2: at your options, look at your income, look at what
Speaker 2: you really can afford from a monthly standpoint, and start
Speaker 2: there because they'll be able to educate you and they'll
Speaker 2: say what today's rates are and they'll say, this is
Speaker 2: what you can afford, and don't look beyond that, because
Speaker 2: you know, with the economy and the roller coaster that
Speaker 2: we're all on right now, you know, you want to
Speaker 2: make sure that that mortgage payment, your property taxes, and
Speaker 2: your insurance are going to be covered every month and
Speaker 2: then you still have, you know, your money to live.
Speaker 2: No one wants to be under the gun every single
Speaker 2: month to be to be paying a mortgage and property
Speaker 2: taxes and insurance for a condo that they can't afford.
Speaker 1: Great transition, because we've gotten to know and love you
Speaker 1: as the star of million Dollar Listing and you're absolutely
Speaker 1: crushing it for some reason, the first female star of
Speaker 1: this show. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really fun.
Speaker 1: It has it, And I bet it's been a very
Speaker 1: interesting time to be doing this show during this market
Speaker 1: and with all the craziness going on.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chris, I mean, you know, I've been
Speaker 2: on the show for six years, and you know I've
Speaker 2: obviously we a few years ago, I mean, we fifty
Speaker 2: properties plus that we could put on the show. This
Speaker 2: is one of those moments where we said, you know,
Speaker 2: we have an option to either continue to glamorize what
Speaker 2: it is that we do for a living or to
Speaker 2: tell the truth. Yeah, and is this was a really
Speaker 2: difficult year in Los Angeles real estate, particularly in the
Speaker 2: high end, and all of us were struggling. Josh Flagg struggles,
Speaker 2: Josh Altman struggles, and I struggle to put deals together
Speaker 2: that typically we could put together in thirty days and
Speaker 2: you know, three years ago and you know, get our
Speaker 2: commission check and move on. So this entire season is
Speaker 2: you know, is difficult. And we walked through it with
Speaker 2: you know, our production team at World of Wonder and
Speaker 2: we were like, this is what it is not you know,
Speaker 2: some of these listings aren't going closed and that's just
Speaker 2: the nature of the market.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, and it's a dilemma as a producer.
Speaker 1: We ran into that on The Bachelor as well, of
Speaker 1: do we continue to pretend that the people that are
Speaker 1: the Bachelor Bacherette are perfect, that we have found this
Speaker 1: perfect human being and now twenty five people have the
Speaker 1: opportunit unity to marry the perfect person when that's not reality.
Speaker 1: We're all flawed. These people were very flawed and at times,
Speaker 1: and so we had that dilemma of do we show
Speaker 1: a very flawed person, or do we continue to perpetuate
Speaker 1: this fairy tale? And so you guys have that on
Speaker 1: steroids right now, and I'm glad to hear that you're
Speaker 1: going to embrace things are rough right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they really are. And I think that was
Speaker 2: something that you know, particularly with our show, there are
Speaker 2: a lot of real estate shows out there, some less
Speaker 2: focused on you know, more of a real estate backdrop
Speaker 2: with a little more drama. Ours has always been, you know,
Speaker 2: real estate first. And I think what we've realized is
Speaker 2: we're going to if we're going to position ourselves to
Speaker 2: really talk to people around the country about selling real estate,
Speaker 2: then we have to be honest about what's happening. And
Speaker 2: so I believe our show more than most probably attempts
Speaker 2: to tell that true story. And we shoot this show, Chris,
Speaker 2: it's ten months. Yeah, we don't shoot for three four
Speaker 2: months and in and out, like it is a long
Speaker 2: arduous process to deliver some of these listings so that
Speaker 2: the viewers can go, Okay, well what happened? Did it close?
Speaker 2: Or systems will close things and then it falls out,
Speaker 2: you know, it closes on the show and it's not
Speaker 2: set to close for sixty days and then it falls apart.
Speaker 2: So that's just the nature of what we do.
Speaker 1: Were you hesitant at all about getting on the show
Speaker 1: and being a part of it. Is this really going
Speaker 1: to help my career? Is this going to completely bury me?
Speaker 1: You know, because especially when you're dealing in that high
Speaker 1: end market, you know, non disclosure is a big part
Speaker 1: of this, Like they want their privacy. So trying to
Speaker 1: walk that fine line, I'm sure was a difficult moral
Speaker 1: decision for you.
Speaker 2: It was. I mean I'd been selling real estate when
Speaker 2: I joined the show for seventeen years, so I had
Speaker 2: a business that I had built, whereas Josh Flag, for example,
Speaker 2: sort of grew up on the show. I mean he'd
Speaker 2: been doing it for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the show helped create him, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: So when I, you know, got to that place where
Speaker 2: they were like, you know, we'd love to consider you,
Speaker 2: you know, you being the first woman on you know,
Speaker 2: million dollar listing la, I had two young kids, I
Speaker 2: had been married for you know, thirteen plus years. My
Speaker 2: family was nervous about it. I was a little bit
Speaker 2: nervous about the idea that you know a lot of
Speaker 2: my private clients wouldn't want to be on the show
Speaker 2: and believe it or not. Once I made the decision
Speaker 2: to just go for it, I said, look, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: forty years old. Like if I'm not going to do it, ever,
Speaker 2: i gotta do it now, Like there's not a lot
Speaker 2: of time and I need to take that leap of
Speaker 2: faith and know that I'm a know what I'm doing
Speaker 2: and be that my clients will trust that if I
Speaker 2: decide that I want to put them on the show
Speaker 2: and they're open to that, that I'm going to protect.
Speaker 2: I'm still going to protect their assets. So that has
Speaker 2: worked out, and truthfully, there is no better advertising than
Speaker 2: this television show for what we do for a living.
Speaker 1: As I say, has it helped at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's a value adds.
Speaker 2: It's a huge value add and if it was a
Speaker 2: different kind of show, I don't think it would be.
Speaker 2: But I think there are a lot of people that
Speaker 2: follow the show because they actually are interested in the
Speaker 2: real estate and what we do, and so for that reason,
Speaker 2: it's it's been huge for us. And even in Texas,
Speaker 2: it's been such a great asset for me coming into
Speaker 2: a brand new state with no experience. In the last
Speaker 2: three years learning like a bunch of different markets, and
Speaker 2: then thank god I have this exposure because with all
Speaker 2: the people that are coming into Texas from you know, Colorado, California,
Speaker 2: the East Coast, et cetera, they look to me as
Speaker 2: someone that's like an obvious choice, and that's huge. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have that if I didn't have this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be very big, because I mean Texas is
Speaker 1: very much of take care of there a own and
Speaker 1: you know, hire from within, but you kind of coming
Speaker 1: in and taking some of that business. Really, that billboard
Speaker 1: that you get to walk in with is massive. Would
Speaker 1: you say that what we're seeing is a good depiction
Speaker 1: of the real estate business and especially the high end
Speaker 1: level of real estate.
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely. I mean, you know, there's a lot of personalities,
Speaker 2: and particularly when you know people are successful and they
Speaker 2: have money and there's twenty thirty million dollar houses on
Speaker 2: the line, you know. There, It's it's pretty straightforward. I
Speaker 2: have some very challenging clients and I wake up every
Speaker 2: day going, Okay, how am I going to tackle this one?
Speaker 2: But you know, we we protect our clients as best
Speaker 2: we can on the show. But it is definitely high drama. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know, you see a lot of that this season.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have clients, you know, it took me
Speaker 2: most of the season, most of the year to sell
Speaker 2: their house, and it's because they didn't listen to me.
Speaker 2: So they're watching it back right now. And for example,
Speaker 2: I had something in Laguna Beach and I said, do
Speaker 2: not list this house over seven million, nine ninety five,
Speaker 2: and he's like, so eight seven fifty And then we
Speaker 2: ended up selling it for seven to five because.
Speaker 1: He you know, we could have gotten there six months ago.
Speaker 2: Right, So they all watch it back and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, she was right, Yeah, damn it. What's your biggest
Speaker 1: all time sell?
Speaker 2: Uh that was a couple of years ago. I sold
Speaker 2: something for fifty seven million on the west side of
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and well, you know, I've had big projects
Speaker 2: that are north two hundred million. So a little bit
Speaker 2: of high rise stuff, that's what I'm excited about. Also
Speaker 2: in Texas there.
Speaker 1: Is a lot of that. Yeah, a lot of it
Speaker 1: going up in Austin and Dallas.
Speaker 2: Branded residence.
Speaker 1: It's really one of the things that we learned in
Speaker 1: this last season that you shared you went through a breakup.
Speaker 2: She's back on the market again.
Speaker 1: So she's single.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I am I'm dating because.
Speaker 1: Is that working out?
Speaker 2: Oh god, Chris, it's exhausting. I'm just going to go
Speaker 2: to bed. I need you know. I'm not cut out
Speaker 2: for this. But you know what I did, Eric and
Speaker 2: I broke up. It was about a year ago. Now
Speaker 2: everybody's kind of just seeing this now for the first time,
Speaker 2: but it is a year later for me, So no
Speaker 2: one terribly exciting. But I have met a few gentlemen
Speaker 2: in Texas who are interesting, So I mean I have
Speaker 2: to go to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: At this point, I was going to say, you know,
Speaker 1: you're working in Texas. You're getting places to stay in Texas.
Speaker 1: It's hard to beat a good Texas man. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you may want to come fishing in our pond. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to it's much better.
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying, like meeting new people, making new friends,
Speaker 2: not just in a business sense, but I, like I said,
Speaker 2: in La, I mean dating is rough as you imagine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went there. I mean that's where I got
Speaker 1: divorced and where I started dating, and it was it
Speaker 1: was difficult. I fell in love and married a Midwestern girl.
Speaker 2: See, there you go. I need to find me some
Speaker 2: Midwest boy or a nice rancher.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I would think that are you on
Speaker 1: any of the apps dating apps and do any of
Speaker 1: that stuff?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chris. So, I was on Riah, which
Speaker 2: is totally tragic, and everybody on there is a producer.
Speaker 2: It's crazy town. And then most recently, a friend of mine,
Speaker 2: Jeff Lewis, had me on his show and he had Jeff,
Speaker 2: you know Jeff, so Jeff Blackbuddies and Jeff had a
Speaker 2: dating person on the show, and he's like, will you stay?
Speaker 2: And I said sure, I need some tips. So him
Speaker 2: and I are both recently single. So she's told us
Speaker 2: that we're not exposing our enough and that we needed
Speaker 2: to throw the net wider. And so she told me
Speaker 2: that I needed to get on Bumble and Jeff got
Speaker 2: on Hinge and so for the last week and a half,
Speaker 2: I have been on Bumble. I don't think I sent
Speaker 2: my preferences correctly. Okay, sixteen hundred people in my inbox,
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is too much.
Speaker 1: It's overwhelming, this is overwhelming. It's look, it's and I
Speaker 1: get I get what that person is saying, but I
Speaker 1: also because I have been in your shoes. I understand.
Speaker 1: It's like you you get divorced, you break up, and
Speaker 1: you have two kids, so you're taking care of your kids.
Speaker 1: I know, you have one in college, one in high
Speaker 1: school still you know mine, we're still both in school
Speaker 1: at the time. But you're still dealing with all that,
Speaker 1: and you're living your life and you're trying to sell
Speaker 1: houses and yeah, you don't have a lot of time,
Speaker 1: so you do you got to make specific time to
Speaker 1: really dive into that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm I'm listen. I carve out some time
Speaker 2: to you know, have dinner or meet someone for a
Speaker 2: coffee or whatever. But I am super busy, and so
Speaker 2: it's I thought, you know, maybe dating someone outside of
Speaker 2: the state, whether it was Texas or somewhere else, would
Speaker 2: be a good thing. But I'm recognizing pretty quickly when
Speaker 2: am I seeing you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not full time in Texas, you're not
Speaker 1: full time in La. Yeah. What about age range do
Speaker 1: you have? You know, will you date younger again?
Speaker 2: Not that yet. I mean I'm really would like to
Speaker 2: have someone in their forties or early fifties. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm forty nine, so I'm like one year away from
Speaker 2: big five. Oh, I have to like start getting serious.
Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the club. It's wonderful, the water is warm,
Speaker 1: come on in.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. I just feel like at this
Speaker 2: point I need to be thinking about my future. Eric
Speaker 2: was way too young. We were together for three and
Speaker 2: a half years, and it was Eric. He's twenty nine. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so you know it was COVID And now I'm like,
Speaker 2: we all did.
Speaker 1: Crazy things during COVID, crazy things.
Speaker 2: But now I really do I want to find someone that's, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Tracy, I'm going to say definitely not in their twenties.
Speaker 1: They would have to be very dynamic to even be
Speaker 1: in their thirties. You don't need a chew toy. You
Speaker 1: don't need a chew toy. You need an adult.
Speaker 2: I need an adult. I need someone that's like, been there, done,
Speaker 2: that has a career. If they have kids, wonderful. There'll
Speaker 2: be no more children coming out of me anytime soon,
Speaker 2: so I just we need to be on the same page.
Speaker 1: Find you a grown ass man.
Speaker 2: Nice, thank you. I'm working on.
Speaker 1: It, but you know this is I'm pretty good at this.
Speaker 1: So I'll start keeping my eyes open in Texas, eyes.
Speaker 2: Open or that or I'm going to have to do
Speaker 2: like the Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 1: Soon we'll have to Hey, come to town. Well you know,
Speaker 1: I'm on Merritt Street now with doctor Phil. We have
Speaker 1: a new network. We'll just create a show around you.
Speaker 1: I can't Let's do it Million Dollar Love. Yeah, oh god,
Speaker 1: we sell houses and find you love that. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is a good show. I like we just came
Speaker 1: up with right now, let's do let's let's do this.
Speaker 2: I trust you, Chris. I feel like you could find
Speaker 2: me someone.
Speaker 1: I am up there a lot between Fourth and Dallas.
Speaker 1: There are some great guys. I think you'll find dating
Speaker 1: in Texas a little easier on the palette. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we just can't go. Yeah, we can't go. We can't
Speaker 1: go in the twenties again.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're done with that. Not even the thirties.
Speaker 1: No, it really no offense to people in their thirties.
Speaker 1: But you're still just not you're not fully baked yet
Speaker 1: as someone in their fifties. I it was in my
Speaker 1: forties when I realized, Okay, I think the cake is done.
Speaker 1: I'm actually fully baked now. Yeah, yeah, we're slower to
Speaker 1: it than you guys.
Speaker 2: Are Yeah, you guys are, but you know, still worth it.
Speaker 1: What's the future for the show? Where do you see
Speaker 1: this going?
Speaker 2: Well, we're about to let's see, we're about to have
Speaker 2: the season finale this week, which is exciting. We've had
Speaker 2: a really great year. The show has been really well
Speaker 2: received by the fans. This year, we're trying to give
Speaker 2: you guys a little bit of a peak, you know,
Speaker 2: more into our personal lives. Obviously, you know, me sharing
Speaker 2: my breakup was yeah, was pretty intense this season for us.
Speaker 2: You know, hopefully we have another season. I guess we're
Speaker 2: going to find out soon.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, there's going to be another season.
Speaker 1: The show is huge, it's amazing, and you've been a
Speaker 1: huge part of that success. And I it's I do.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate the fact that because it is a
Speaker 1: very good show, but I like that they're kind of
Speaker 1: dropping the curtain a little bit. We're seeing behind that
Speaker 1: more and more, whether it's personal lives, the reality behind
Speaker 1: real estate, what's going on, because we're all feeling it
Speaker 1: and these are real things that we have trepidation about,
Speaker 1: and it's we want to watch these shows for entertainment,
Speaker 1: but also for a little bit of the reality of
Speaker 1: like what's going on, and you guys kind of try
Speaker 1: to walk that line very delicately, and you do a
Speaker 1: good job.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I really appreciate that. You know, who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe there might be a new show in Texas.
Speaker 1: I like that. I can, we can, we I we can.
Speaker 1: We can take care of that. Tracy. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. First of all, it's great to talk
Speaker 1: to you and continue success in life, love with the kids,
Speaker 1: real estate, all of it. I have no worries about you.
Speaker 1: Something tells me you're gonna do just fine, let's hope.
Speaker 1: So just be careful on the apps.
Speaker 2: Oh I think I got a sign off. I think
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 1: It's so much Tracy Tutor million dollar listing. And obviously
Speaker 1: you can find what's your handle on Insta because I know.
Speaker 2: I call you at Tracy Tutor, so.
Speaker 1: Look her up on a Tracy Tutor as well. Tracy
Speaker 1: is good talking to you. Hopefully I'll see you around
Speaker 1: the Lone Star States soon.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm coming tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Perfect weather is great, You're gonna love it perfect this week.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear that.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, Tracy, take care.
Speaker 2: Take care, honey, bye bye.
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