1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas, 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: and I am so excited not only for this guest today, 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Tracy Tutor for Million Dollar Listing, the star of that show, 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: but she's just also a brilliant real estate agent for real. 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: I know people think, oh, is that show real? They 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: really do it. Yes, it is a very real show 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: in that they are selling these multimillion dollar listings. And 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: I think if there is a topic to dive into 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: right now beyond politics, that is real estate because there's 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: so much trepidation right now for first time home buyers. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: How much it costs to get in the market. Should 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: you get in the market right now to buy your 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: first home or level up or should you just rent? 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Is it a good time to just stay on the 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: sidelines and wait for everything to kind of settle out. 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: I know that she will have some very strong opinions. 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: She's been in this business for decades and is now 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: venturing to my neck of the woods. Very much based 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: in California, but she's starting to stretch it out into 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: the state of Texas. So I have a lot of 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: questions about all of that again. The star of Million 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Dollar Listing, she's been on it for years. She also 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: just went through a very public breakup we all saw 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: on the show, So I want to know what's going 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: on with her love life as well. Is that up 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: for sale? So Tracy Tudor joins us on the most 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: dramatic podcast ever, And Tracy Tudor joins me, Now where 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: are you in from today? 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: We're in California. Tomorrow we're going to Texas. 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: Soll you that's funny. Let's okay, So let's just jump roll, 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: let's rip the band aid off. I'm in Texas. I'm 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas right now. I was just in California. 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that it's a thousand degrees in California. It's 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: oddly cooler in Texas for some reason. But you're starting 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: to work in Texas. And we're going to talk about 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Million Dollar Listing in television, but you're starting to work 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: in Texas, So let's just start talking real estate. Why 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: why you found that Texas is the hotspot to start 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: working in real estate. 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm I've been pumped about Texas for a while, but 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: this really sort of began for me during COVID when 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: we were living in LA and on lockdown, and we 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: just started to see an enormous amount of people vacating 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: Los Angeles in California in general. 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: You're looking at one of them. 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, right. I think I saw probably fifty million in 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: my network, you know, leave the state and go to Texas, 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: whether it was Dallas or Austin or Houston. And I 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: started to say to myself, well, obviously there's an opportunity 51 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: and I need to take it. And Douglas Ellman, my 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: my brokerage, had opened up offices there post COVID, and 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: so I immediately got my license and started, you know, 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: a team in both Austin and in Dallas, and I 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: think fell in love with it as well. You know, 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: I've always been a fan of Texas. I've been going 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: there since one of my best friends in college grew 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: up there to visit. And you know, while I went 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: there for the purpose of real estate, I think I've 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: really stayed there and I love the people, I love 61 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: the vibe. I love what Austin has to offer. Dallas 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: is totally different, sort of reminds me, you know, Highland 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: Park reminds me of like the Beverly Hills of Texas. 64 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: And autout totally. 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Austin's like a little bit more, you know, the keep 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: Austin weird vibe, and I'm into that as well. So 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: I'm having a ton of fun. And now I actually 68 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: have a place there. 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Too, so oh you do. Okay, we're in Dallas, in Dallas. 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: And up next, but I'm I'm flying in tomorrow to 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: work in Austin for the week. So it's it's it's 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: a great city. 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: I have a great real estate agent here if you 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: need to never mind. Yeah, I grew up in Dallas. 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: When I moved back, I still have family in Dallas. 76 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm four generation Dallas, but I moved to Austin with 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Lauren to set up her own life, to kind of 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: start a new And you're right, Dallas, Dallas, Austin, Houston, 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: San Antonio, and there's other great cities, but kind of 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the Big Four, if you will, are very different, very 81 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: different vibes, very different people, cultures, et cetera. And it's 82 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: kind of fun to kind of travel around and figure 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: out where you fit best. Do you think you'll make 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: the move permanently to finally become a Texan? 85 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: Well, I do have my I've got a sixteen year 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: old daughter and an eighteen year old daughter. So one 87 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: is off to college and she's actually staying in California, 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: and my other one has a couple of years left 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: of school. And so after Scarlett graduates, depending on where 90 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: she ends up, I think I'll probably spend a lot 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: more time there. 92 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you sound like you sound exactly like us. 93 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: When our two kids graduated, our son came to TCU, 94 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: then our daughter went to TCU, which is maybe my 95 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: favorite city, Fort Worth. If you've never spent time in 96 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: fort Worth, I'm telling you that is the untapped resource 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: in real estate and in Texas. 98 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: I love for Worth a There's a ton of money 99 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: in fort Worth. We've got copy listings there that I'm 100 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: enjoying spending time at. But fort Worth is all so 101 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: a great city. 102 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: It's it's a world apart from Dallas. I mean, I 103 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: grew up in Dallas and we never went to Fort Worth. 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: And now my kids have spent so much time there 105 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: at TCU, I have fallen in love with fort Worth, 106 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: and I think if I didn't live in Austin, honestly, 107 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: I would be in fort Worth. It's you, it really 108 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: is and you got you know, you have the uh, 109 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: the stockyards to kind of contemporary downtown, so you get 110 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: it all there. It's a really great vibe. Have you 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: ventured into that real estate market at all? 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: I have. We actually have a new listing that is 113 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: is going to be coming to market soon. So we've 114 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: been spending quite a bit of time there. And you're 115 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: seeing some really big numbers in Fort Worth. You're seeing 116 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: a lot of development come into Fort Worth, like people 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: are spending money. So it's it's a great time to 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: be in Texas from a real estate standpoint, and you know, 119 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: you know, comparatively to La Chris, you know, we want, 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: you know, pretty expensive real estate here and from a 121 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: foot standpoint, you know, Texas feels like such a value. 122 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: But I think the Texas numbers in the next five years, 123 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: you know, in Austin and Dallas and Fort Worth, especially 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: San Antonio, I think we're going to see a lot 125 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: of growth. So that for me is a really exciting 126 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: time because to start seeing things go from fifteen hundred 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: dollars a foot, which was expensive, yeah, to say two 128 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: thousand a foot. I don't think that Texas thinks it's 129 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: possible and I'm sort of here to break that. 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: I was just out in California and spend a lot 131 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: of time there, have a lot of love for Cali, 132 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: even though I left to come back home, and that 133 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: was always inevitable. I mean, I was definitely urged out 134 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: when I ended up in a toxic relationship with the 135 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: state I was living in. I didn't love the things 136 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: that were taking place. But with that said, it is 137 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: a wonderful place. It's a beautiful state. But I find 138 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: it interesting because just you alone, your own book, you 139 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: said fifty million dollars walked out the door to around Texas, Florida, Nevada. 140 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: That's where all the money went out of California. If 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: you alone had fifty million dollars walk out the door, 142 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say about a billion dollars 143 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: left that state over the last three to four years. Absolutely, 144 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand how things aren't changing in the real 145 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: estate market or are they Is it going to ever 146 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: drop change? What do you see in the Cali market. 147 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a really complicated time in real estate, 148 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: particularly in Los Angeles. I mean, Cali is a huge state. 149 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's five states in one Yeah. 150 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Exactly, so many micro markets. But if we're talking about 151 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: Los Angeles specifically, there's just a lot of politics surrounding 152 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: the city that are preventing developers from building. We have 153 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: a new Wildlife Ordinance which will sort of decrease the 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: number of mansions that we can have in Los Angeles, 155 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: which is where the luxury market in bel Air, Beverly Hills, 156 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: Brentwood Palisades, so that's where the bulk of the money is, 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: so they're limiting us in terms of what we can 158 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: build there. Obviously, put the ULA tax on any sales 159 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: over ten million dollars at five and a half percent. 160 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: So you're selling your house for twenty million dollars, you're 161 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: paying five percent in commissions. You're paying five and a 162 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: half percent on top of that to the City of 163 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: Los Angeles to solve the homelessness crisis. So that that 164 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: in and of itself is just kind of crushed the 165 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: luxury market and sellers are beginning to wrap their heads 166 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: around it. I think, you know, we were hoping that 167 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: was going to get overthrown and the Supreme Court of 168 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: California said no. So there's just there's challenges on top 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: of challenges. In addition, to the crime, and obviously the 170 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: politics in Los Angeles, there's a lot of people wanting 171 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: to leave, but they can't afford to. So that's another 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: ledgure to add insult to injury that we're dealing with. 173 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: And so that's why I'm, you know, having such a 174 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: good time in Texas because right now all I see 175 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: is growth. I mean, there's there's incredible growth happening across 176 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: the state. And so for me, yeah, in the next 177 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: three plus years, I think I might find myself doing 178 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: exactly the same thing. 179 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the tech world has moved to Austin. 180 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, AMD is here, and Elon Musk 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: is here with Starlink down in South Padre, and obviously 182 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: Tesla here in Austin. Toyota is up in Dallas. It's amazing. 183 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: I definitely want to get to the TV world. But 184 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm so glad to have you because right now in 185 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: our political world, and we're not going to talk politics, 186 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: but one of the big issues right now in our 187 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: presidential races, we can't buy homes. First time home buyers 188 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: can't get into homes. So give me your advice for 189 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: people that are listening right now that want to buy 190 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: a home. Should we Is this a good time to 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: buy a home or is it still a renter's market? 192 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Because look, three four years ago, as you know, average 193 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: home price was like two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. 194 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: It's two x that now, yeah, yeah, And I guess 195 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: my question is do you jump in now because it's 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: only going to be four x this later? You know, 197 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: it's a what is your advice on first time home 198 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: buyers and how do we make it more affordable? 199 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: Well? Number one, I always will say buy now. I mean, 200 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: you know, I had this conversation, you know, three years 201 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: ago when we had interest rates at two percent, and 202 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: people were like, I'm going to wait until, you know, 203 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: the market slows because at two percent, you know, homes 204 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: were flying off the market at twenty percent more than 205 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: where they are today, and no one wanted to buy 206 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: then because the home prices were so high and it 207 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: was a hot, hot seller's market. Well now all those 208 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: people are kicking themselves because now interest rates are you know, 209 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: six six and a half percent, seven percent, and now 210 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: they can't afford the flip side of it. And what 211 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: we're not seeing is prices necessarily adjust back in the 212 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: other reaction yet, So I'm always going to say get 213 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: in now, and you don't need to be concerned about 214 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: buying your forever home. It's just your first investment into 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: the world of real estate. So whether that's a townhouse 216 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: or a condo or a two hundred and fifty thousand 217 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: dollars income property for yourself, get in the game because 218 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: property value will all. It's the greatest asset any single 219 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: person can possibly have. So whether you start today and 220 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: you buy your first investment property for a few hundred 221 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, in three years from that, pull the equity 222 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: out and buy your next house, and maybe that's the 223 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: house that you can see yourself in for the next 224 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: five years. But there's always going to be growth. And 225 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: while we're in a down market, you're not going to 226 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: move your money around perhaps sell, but the more real 227 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: estate you own is going to give you the ability 228 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: to have passive income in the future, and you're not 229 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: going to be killing yourself at seventy five to make 230 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: ends meet. 231 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I think the thing that needs 232 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: to be adjusted is just what you said, Maybe your 233 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: sites need to aim a little lower and that no, 234 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you're not going to get the four bedroom in the 235 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: yard for the dog and all that. Maybe it's going 236 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: to be a two bedroom town home and you got 237 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: to swallow your pride a little bit and it sucks, 238 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: but that just gets you in the game. And once 239 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: you're in the game, you will level up quickly. It's 240 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: just that that's history. The history repeats itself, and that 241 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: history has always worked. And I also think, and I 242 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: hope you agree, it's living and buying and staying within 243 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: your means. Don't don't reach that four bedroom if you're 244 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: going to get upside down it if things go wrong, 245 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: start low and gifts getting the game. 246 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: Get in the game. And for people out there right 247 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: now that are kind of kicking themselves and they didn't 248 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: maybe purchase two three years ago and interest rates were lower, 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that interest rates aren't going to come down. 250 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: We obviously are seeing interest rates shift slowly down. So 251 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: get yourself in an interest only loan. Maybe that's it 252 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: five and a half to six and a half percent now, 253 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: and when we start to see the thirty year fixed 254 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: model come down, then you can transition into that and refinance. 255 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: But you know, while you have the ability to be 256 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: competitive in a market that might be a little bit softer, 257 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: get in the game, and then you finance in two years. 258 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Because let's say the Fed they're not going to do this. 259 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: But let's say the FED dropped it to three percent tomorrow, 260 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. There's a buying frenzy. Now you're 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: just going to Yeah, now you've got the opposite problem 262 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: where people can jack up the prices of their home. 263 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: So it's it's never going to be perfect. You know, 264 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: you're never going to have that perfect bake, and you know, 265 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: trying to time the market is My friends in the industry, 266 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: I always say it's like trying to catch a falling knife. 267 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Don't try, You're you're never going to catch it. 268 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: And truthfully, like sitting down, I think first time buyers 269 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: make the mistake of they go out and they just 270 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: start looking what can I think I can afford monthly? 271 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: You really need to sit down with a mortgage broker 272 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: or a trusted financial advisor or a lender and look 273 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: at your options, look at your income, look at what 274 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: you really can afford from a monthly standpoint, and start 275 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: there because they'll be able to educate you and they'll 276 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: say what today's rates are and they'll say, this is 277 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: what you can afford, and don't look beyond that, because 278 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: you know, with the economy and the roller coaster that 279 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: we're all on right now, you know, you want to 280 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: make sure that that mortgage payment, your property taxes, and 281 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: your insurance are going to be covered every month and 282 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: then you still have, you know, your money to live. 283 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: No one wants to be under the gun every single 284 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: month to be to be paying a mortgage and property 285 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: taxes and insurance for a condo that they can't afford. 286 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Great transition, because we've gotten to know and love you 287 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: as the star of million Dollar Listing and you're absolutely 288 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: crushing it for some reason, the first female star of 289 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: this show. Yeah. 290 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really fun. 291 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: It has it, And I bet it's been a very 292 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: interesting time to be doing this show during this market 293 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: and with all the craziness going on. 294 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chris, I mean, you know, I've been 295 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: on the show for six years, and you know I've 296 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: obviously we a few years ago, I mean, we fifty 297 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: properties plus that we could put on the show. This 298 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: is one of those moments where we said, you know, 299 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: we have an option to either continue to glamorize what 300 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: it is that we do for a living or to 301 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: tell the truth. Yeah, and is this was a really 302 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: difficult year in Los Angeles real estate, particularly in the 303 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: high end, and all of us were struggling. Josh Flagg struggles, 304 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: Josh Altman struggles, and I struggle to put deals together 305 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: that typically we could put together in thirty days and 306 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: you know, three years ago and you know, get our 307 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: commission check and move on. So this entire season is 308 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: you know, is difficult. And we walked through it with 309 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: you know, our production team at World of Wonder and 310 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: we were like, this is what it is not you know, 311 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: some of these listings aren't going closed and that's just 312 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: the nature of the market. 313 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, and it's a dilemma as a producer. 314 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: We ran into that on The Bachelor as well, of 315 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: do we continue to pretend that the people that are 316 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: the Bachelor Bacherette are perfect, that we have found this 317 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: perfect human being and now twenty five people have the 318 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: opportunit unity to marry the perfect person when that's not reality. 319 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: We're all flawed. These people were very flawed and at times, 320 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: and so we had that dilemma of do we show 321 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: a very flawed person, or do we continue to perpetuate 322 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: this fairy tale? And so you guys have that on 323 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: steroids right now, and I'm glad to hear that you're 324 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: going to embrace things are rough right now. 325 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they really are. And I think that was 326 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: something that you know, particularly with our show, there are 327 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: a lot of real estate shows out there, some less 328 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: focused on you know, more of a real estate backdrop 329 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: with a little more drama. Ours has always been, you know, 330 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: real estate first. And I think what we've realized is 331 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: we're going to if we're going to position ourselves to 332 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: really talk to people around the country about selling real estate, 333 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: then we have to be honest about what's happening. And 334 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: so I believe our show more than most probably attempts 335 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: to tell that true story. And we shoot this show, Chris, 336 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: it's ten months. Yeah, we don't shoot for three four 337 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: months and in and out, like it is a long 338 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: arduous process to deliver some of these listings so that 339 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 2: the viewers can go, Okay, well what happened? Did it close? 340 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: Or systems will close things and then it falls out, 341 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: you know, it closes on the show and it's not 342 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: set to close for sixty days and then it falls apart. 343 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: So that's just the nature of what we do. 344 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: Were you hesitant at all about getting on the show 345 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: and being a part of it. Is this really going 346 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: to help my career? Is this going to completely bury me? 347 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: You know, because especially when you're dealing in that high 348 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: end market, you know, non disclosure is a big part 349 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: of this, Like they want their privacy. So trying to 350 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: walk that fine line, I'm sure was a difficult moral 351 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: decision for you. 352 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: It was. I mean I'd been selling real estate when 353 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: I joined the show for seventeen years, so I had 354 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: a business that I had built, whereas Josh Flag, for example, 355 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: sort of grew up on the show. I mean he'd 356 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: been doing it for fifteen years. 357 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the show helped create him, Yes, exactly. 358 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: So when I, you know, got to that place where 359 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: they were like, you know, we'd love to consider you, 360 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: you know, you being the first woman on you know, 361 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: million dollar listing la, I had two young kids, I 362 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: had been married for you know, thirteen plus years. My 363 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: family was nervous about it. I was a little bit 364 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: nervous about the idea that you know a lot of 365 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: my private clients wouldn't want to be on the show 366 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: and believe it or not. Once I made the decision 367 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: to just go for it, I said, look, I'm I'm 368 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: forty years old. Like if I'm not going to do it, ever, 369 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: i gotta do it now, Like there's not a lot 370 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: of time and I need to take that leap of 371 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: faith and know that I'm a know what I'm doing 372 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: and be that my clients will trust that if I 373 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: decide that I want to put them on the show 374 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: and they're open to that, that I'm going to protect. 375 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: I'm still going to protect their assets. So that has 376 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: worked out, and truthfully, there is no better advertising than 377 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: this television show for what we do for a living. 378 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: As I say, has it helped at the end of 379 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: the day, it's a value adds. 380 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: It's a huge value add and if it was a 381 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: different kind of show, I don't think it would be. 382 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: But I think there are a lot of people that 383 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: follow the show because they actually are interested in the 384 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: real estate and what we do, and so for that reason, 385 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: it's it's been huge for us. And even in Texas, 386 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: it's been such a great asset for me coming into 387 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: a brand new state with no experience. In the last 388 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: three years learning like a bunch of different markets, and 389 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 2: then thank god I have this exposure because with all 390 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: the people that are coming into Texas from you know, Colorado, California, 391 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: the East Coast, et cetera, they look to me as 392 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: someone that's like an obvious choice, and that's huge. I 393 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't have that if I didn't have this show. 394 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be very big, because I mean Texas is 395 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: very much of take care of there a own and 396 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, hire from within, but you kind of coming 397 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: in and taking some of that business. Really, that billboard 398 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: that you get to walk in with is massive. Would 399 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: you say that what we're seeing is a good depiction 400 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: of the real estate business and especially the high end 401 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: level of real estate. 402 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely. I mean, you know, there's a lot of personalities, 403 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: and particularly when you know people are successful and they 404 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: have money and there's twenty thirty million dollar houses on 405 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: the line, you know. There, It's it's pretty straightforward. I 406 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: have some very challenging clients and I wake up every 407 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: day going, Okay, how am I going to tackle this one? 408 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: But you know, we we protect our clients as best 409 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: we can on the show. But it is definitely high drama. Yeah, 410 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: and you know, you see a lot of that this season. 411 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I have clients, you know, it took me 412 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: most of the season, most of the year to sell 413 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: their house, and it's because they didn't listen to me. 414 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: So they're watching it back right now. And for example, 415 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: I had something in Laguna Beach and I said, do 416 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 2: not list this house over seven million, nine ninety five, 417 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: and he's like, so eight seven fifty And then we 418 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: ended up selling it for seven to five because. 419 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: He you know, we could have gotten there six months ago. 420 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: Right, So they all watch it back and they're. 421 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: Like, she was right, Yeah, damn it. What's your biggest 422 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: all time sell? 423 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: Uh that was a couple of years ago. I sold 424 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: something for fifty seven million on the west side of 425 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and well, you know, I've had big projects 426 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: that are north two hundred million. So a little bit 427 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: of high rise stuff, that's what I'm excited about. Also 428 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: in Texas there. 429 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: Is a lot of that. Yeah, a lot of it 430 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: going up in Austin and Dallas. 431 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: Branded residence. 432 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: It's really one of the things that we learned in 433 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: this last season that you shared you went through a breakup. 434 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: She's back on the market again. 435 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: So she's single. 436 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I am I'm dating because. 437 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: Is that working out? 438 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: Oh god, Chris, it's exhausting. I'm just going to go 439 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: to bed. I need you know. I'm not cut out 440 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: for this. But you know what I did, Eric and 441 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: I broke up. It was about a year ago. Now 442 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: everybody's kind of just seeing this now for the first time, 443 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: but it is a year later for me, So no 444 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: one terribly exciting. But I have met a few gentlemen 445 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: in Texas who are interesting, So I mean I have 446 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: to go to Los Angeles. 447 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: At this point, I was going to say, you know, 448 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: you're working in Texas. You're getting places to stay in Texas. 449 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: It's hard to beat a good Texas man. I'm just saying, 450 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: you may want to come fishing in our pond. I 451 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: think it's going to it's much better. 452 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying, like meeting new people, making new friends, 453 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: not just in a business sense, but I, like I said, 454 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: in La, I mean dating is rough as you imagine. 455 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went there. I mean that's where I got 456 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: divorced and where I started dating, and it was it 457 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: was difficult. I fell in love and married a Midwestern girl. 458 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: See, there you go. I need to find me some 459 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: Midwest boy or a nice rancher. 460 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: You know, well, I would think that are you on 461 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: any of the apps dating apps and do any of 462 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: that stuff? 463 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chris. So, I was on Riah, which 464 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: is totally tragic, and everybody on there is a producer. 465 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: It's crazy town. And then most recently, a friend of mine, 466 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: Jeff Lewis, had me on his show and he had Jeff, 467 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: you know Jeff, so Jeff Blackbuddies and Jeff had a 468 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: dating person on the show, and he's like, will you stay? 469 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: And I said sure, I need some tips. So him 470 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: and I are both recently single. So she's told us 471 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: that we're not exposing our enough and that we needed 472 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: to throw the net wider. And so she told me 473 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: that I needed to get on Bumble and Jeff got 474 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: on Hinge and so for the last week and a half, 475 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: I have been on Bumble. I don't think I sent 476 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: my preferences correctly. Okay, sixteen hundred people in my inbox, 477 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is too much. 478 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: It's overwhelming, this is overwhelming. It's look, it's and I 479 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: get I get what that person is saying, but I 480 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: also because I have been in your shoes. I understand. 481 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: It's like you you get divorced, you break up, and 482 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: you have two kids, so you're taking care of your kids. 483 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: I know, you have one in college, one in high 484 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: school still you know mine, we're still both in school 485 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: at the time. But you're still dealing with all that, 486 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: and you're living your life and you're trying to sell 487 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: houses and yeah, you don't have a lot of time, 488 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: so you do you got to make specific time to 489 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: really dive into that. 490 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm I'm listen. I carve out some time 491 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: to you know, have dinner or meet someone for a 492 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: coffee or whatever. But I am super busy, and so 493 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: it's I thought, you know, maybe dating someone outside of 494 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: the state, whether it was Texas or somewhere else, would 495 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: be a good thing. But I'm recognizing pretty quickly when 496 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: am I seeing you? 497 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not full time in Texas, you're not 498 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: full time in La. Yeah. What about age range do 499 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: you have? You know, will you date younger again? 500 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: Not that yet. I mean I'm really would like to 501 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: have someone in their forties or early fifties. You know, 502 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm forty nine, so I'm like one year away from 503 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: big five. Oh, I have to like start getting serious. 504 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the club. It's wonderful, the water is warm, 505 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: come on in. 506 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. I just feel like at this 507 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: point I need to be thinking about my future. Eric 508 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: was way too young. We were together for three and 509 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: a half years, and it was Eric. He's twenty nine. Okay, yeah, 510 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: so you know it was COVID And now I'm like, 511 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: we all did. 512 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Crazy things during COVID, crazy things. 513 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: But now I really do I want to find someone that's, you. 514 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: Know, Tracy, I'm going to say definitely not in their twenties. 515 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: They would have to be very dynamic to even be 516 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: in their thirties. You don't need a chew toy. You 517 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: don't need a chew toy. You need an adult. 518 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: I need an adult. I need someone that's like, been there, done, 519 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: that has a career. If they have kids, wonderful. There'll 520 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: be no more children coming out of me anytime soon, 521 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: so I just we need to be on the same page. 522 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: Find you a grown ass man. 523 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Nice, thank you. I'm working on. 524 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: It, but you know this is I'm pretty good at this. 525 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: So I'll start keeping my eyes open in Texas, eyes. 526 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: Open or that or I'm going to have to do 527 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: like the Golden Bachelorette. 528 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: Soon we'll have to Hey, come to town. Well you know, 529 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm on Merritt Street now with doctor Phil. We have 530 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: a new network. We'll just create a show around you. 531 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: I can't Let's do it Million Dollar Love. Yeah, oh god, 532 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: we sell houses and find you love that. By the way, 533 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: this is a good show. I like we just came 534 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: up with right now, let's do let's let's do this. 535 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: I trust you, Chris. I feel like you could find 536 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: me someone. 537 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I am up there a lot between Fourth and Dallas. 538 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: There are some great guys. I think you'll find dating 539 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: in Texas a little easier on the palette. But yeah, 540 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: we just can't go. Yeah, we can't go. We can't 541 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: go in the twenties again. 542 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're done with that. Not even the thirties. 543 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: No, it really no offense to people in their thirties. 544 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: But you're still just not you're not fully baked yet 545 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: as someone in their fifties. I it was in my 546 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: forties when I realized, Okay, I think the cake is done. 547 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm actually fully baked now. Yeah, yeah, we're slower to 548 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: it than you guys. 549 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: Are Yeah, you guys are, but you know, still worth it. 550 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: What's the future for the show? Where do you see 551 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: this going? 552 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: Well, we're about to let's see, we're about to have 553 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: the season finale this week, which is exciting. We've had 554 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: a really great year. The show has been really well 555 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: received by the fans. This year, we're trying to give 556 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: you guys a little bit of a peak, you know, 557 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: more into our personal lives. Obviously, you know, me sharing 558 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: my breakup was yeah, was pretty intense this season for us. 559 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: You know, hopefully we have another season. I guess we're 560 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: going to find out soon. 561 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, there's going to be another season. 562 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: The show is huge, it's amazing, and you've been a 563 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: huge part of that success. And I it's I do. 564 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: I do appreciate the fact that because it is a 565 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: very good show, but I like that they're kind of 566 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: dropping the curtain a little bit. We're seeing behind that 567 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: more and more, whether it's personal lives, the reality behind 568 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: real estate, what's going on, because we're all feeling it 569 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: and these are real things that we have trepidation about, 570 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: and it's we want to watch these shows for entertainment, 571 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: but also for a little bit of the reality of 572 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: like what's going on, and you guys kind of try 573 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: to walk that line very delicately, and you do a 574 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: good job. 575 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. I really appreciate that. You know, who knows, 576 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: maybe there might be a new show in Texas. 577 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: I like that. I can, we can, we I we can. 578 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: We can take care of that. Tracy. Thank you so much. 579 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. First of all, it's great to talk 580 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: to you and continue success in life, love with the kids, 581 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: real estate, all of it. I have no worries about you. 582 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: Something tells me you're gonna do just fine, let's hope. 583 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: So just be careful on the apps. 584 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: Oh I think I got a sign off. I think 585 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: too much. 586 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: It's so much Tracy Tutor million dollar listing. And obviously 587 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: you can find what's your handle on Insta because I know. 588 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: I call you at Tracy Tutor, so. 589 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Look her up on a Tracy Tutor as well. Tracy 590 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: is good talking to you. Hopefully I'll see you around 591 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: the Lone Star States soon. 592 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm coming tomorrow. 593 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: Perfect weather is great, You're gonna love it perfect this week. 594 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear that. 595 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, Tracy, take care. 596 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: Take care, honey, bye bye. 597 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. 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