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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us, and get a lot

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Speaker 2: to talk about. George Stephanopoulos has a difficult interview on

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Speaker 2: his hands when he tries to corner Congresswoman Nancy Nace

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Speaker 2: and she says that he was trying to shame her

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Speaker 2: as a rape victim. We will discuss that on one

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Speaker 2: of the Sunday shows. Not going as little George intended.

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Speaker 2: More back and forth over TikTok. I will say, now

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Speaker 2: Trump and many others coming over to the position that

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Speaker 2: I had held almost alone on the right. It was

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Speaker 2: Rand Paul, it was me. There were a few of us,

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Speaker 2: Clay and remember there was that member of Congress who

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Speaker 2: was a Democrat, who was one of the only Democrats.

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Speaker 2: I can't even remember who it was, the guy who

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Speaker 2: pulled the fire alarm. I think remember Hillman. Yeah, Jamal

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Speaker 2: Bowman was pro TikTok and I was pro TikTok. Not

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Speaker 2: that I want the Chinese spying on you. But it's

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Speaker 2: a complicated discussion. We will get into some of that.

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Speaker 2: And also I have learned some excellent tricks for getting

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Speaker 2: that perfect seer on my New York strips thanks to TikTok.

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Speaker 2: So there can be an educational component to it as well.

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Speaker 2: We will also dive into a State of the Union

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Speaker 2: address from thirty five years ago, just a little bit

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Speaker 2: of it, Joe Biden. You're gonna want to hear what

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden said in a State of the Union address

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Speaker 2: response thirty five years ago. And then I am fired

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Speaker 2: about this. We'll talk some movies later on. It was

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Speaker 2: the Oscars last night. I know that conservatives give each

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Speaker 2: other a hard time for Oh, I didn't watch the Oscars,

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Speaker 2: and you know, well, why are you telling everybody? Legitimately,

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Speaker 2: Carrie and I were trying to turn on the Crown

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Speaker 2: last night before we went to bed, and sure enough,

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Speaker 2: as a suggested.

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Speaker 3: Not even sure which one is better for you to

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Speaker 3: have just said I've watched the Oscars or to say

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Speaker 3: I inadvertently watched the Oscars while trying to watch the Crown.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, right like, I'm just leaning

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Speaker 2: into it. This is what happened. This is the truth.

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Speaker 2: And Clay, you said it to me. You said, married guy,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna start watching The Crown because you're gonna like

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Speaker 2: it and your wife's gonna love it. It is really no shame,

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Speaker 2: no shame in the Crown game. Okay, if you're a

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Speaker 2: married guy, your wife is gonna love it probably, and

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Speaker 2: so you can end up watching it. It's better than

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Speaker 2: a lot of other options you might get dragged into.

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Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, way back in the day, I had

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Speaker 2: someone try to make me watch Grey's Anatomy. It was

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Speaker 2: just like drowning an estrogeny.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen I've never seen an episode of Grey's

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Speaker 3: Anatomy in my entire life.

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Speaker 2: But Oppenheimer won Best Picture last night. I have some

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Speaker 2: thoughts on this based on two both whether the movie

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Speaker 2: is good or not and people can disagree with me,

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Speaker 2: but they will be wrong, and whether the movie is

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Speaker 2: fair to the historical context or not, as in, were

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Speaker 2: there a lot of comedies that were trying to and

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Speaker 2: actually were successful in pilfering our nuclear secrets? Was it

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Speaker 2: really just a red scare or was the American left

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Speaker 2: riddled with communists who had penetrated the United States government? Hm,

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Speaker 2: we can talk about that a little bit. As you know,

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Speaker 2: Clay get fired U about this, But let's start with

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Speaker 2: something else that I think really really shows you what

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Speaker 2: we're up against in this election cycle. Joe Biden. He

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Speaker 2: got heat from his own side because he used the

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Speaker 2: word illegal when he was talking about the murderer of

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Speaker 2: Laken Riley. Biden came out and apologized. Cut five play.

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Speaker 4: It during your response to her heckling of you, you

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Speaker 4: used the word illegal when talking about the man who

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Speaker 4: allegedly killed.

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Speaker 5: An undocumented person. And I shouldn't have used the league

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Speaker 5: as undocumented. And look, when I spoke about the difference

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Speaker 5: about in the border was that is the way he

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Speaker 5: talks about vermin, the way he talks about these people

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Speaker 5: treat any any any of these people with disrespect. Look

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Speaker 5: that built the country, the reason our economy is growing.

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Speaker 5: We have to control the border and more orderly slow.

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Speaker 5: But I don't share his you at all.

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Speaker 2: So you regret using that word, Yes, groveling over the

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Speaker 2: use of illegal instead instead of the they just came

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Speaker 2: up with undocumented a few years ago. They're just trying

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Speaker 2: to come up with some euphemism, Clay, and then beyond that,

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Speaker 2: illegals built the country according to the current president of

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Speaker 2: the United States. Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: The entire answer to me is disqualifying and should be grabbed,

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Speaker 3: utilized play to illustrate so many different angles. You just

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Speaker 3: regardless of your politics. Illegal immigrants have not built the country.

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Speaker 3: That's embarrassing. Second part, he still hasn't apologized for getting

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Speaker 3: buck Lake and Riley's name wrong. He called her Lincoln

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Speaker 3: Riley in the State of the Union. To his credit,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump had a rally over the weekend in North

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden still hasn't but for Marjorie Taylor Green giving

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Speaker 3: of the Union, he never would.

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Speaker 2: Have addressed it.

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Speaker 3: But to be in a position where you apologize for

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Speaker 3: the way that you characterized an alleged murder of an

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Speaker 3: once in New York City. Since he illegally entered the country,

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Speaker 3: and this is why you can't play the language game.

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Speaker 3: And I think this is a big story and a

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Speaker 3: are constantly changing the words that you're allowed to use.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people because people, I think you've

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Speaker 3: intentionally trying to offend adjust to language choices, and we

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Speaker 3: shouldn't do that anymore. Well, because it's about power.

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Speaker 2: That's really say, there's an evolution of the term that

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Speaker 2: is meant to progressively obscure what's really going on. The

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Speaker 2: official term in federal legal documents and statute was illegal alien. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: and I've pointed this out before. This goes back to

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Speaker 2: A fact check. By the way, status on the on

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Speaker 2: a long time. It has it actually has nothing to

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Speaker 2: a bunch of other things, because non citizen includes people

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Speaker 2: And why should we ignore the fact that they are

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Speaker 2: You know, it's yes, we support Israel, but Israel, stop

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Speaker 2: your genocide in Godza. It's like, hold on a second,

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Speaker 2: can't have it both ways. He's saying Republicans won't let

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Speaker 2: They built the country. You can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 3: And if you're out there and you're saying, man, it

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Speaker 3: Cut ten here Buck of Chuck Schumer. Over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: you to hear this. This is current Senate Majority Leader

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Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer talking about how illegal immigration is wrong. This

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Speaker 3: wasn't decades ago, This wasn't forty years ago. I guess

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Speaker 3: it is decades now, thirteen years ago, a decade ago.

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Speaker 2: Here is Chuck.

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Speaker 3: Schumer talking about in two thousand and nine, what's changed

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Speaker 6: People who enter the United States without our permission are

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Speaker 6: illegal aliens, and illegal aliens should not be treated the

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Speaker 6: same as people who entered the US legally. Illegal immigration

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Speaker 6: is wrong, plain and simple. Until the American people are

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Speaker 6: we will make no progress on dealing with the millions

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Speaker 6: of illegal immigrants who are here now. When we use

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Speaker 6: phrases like undocumented workers, we convey a message to the

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Speaker 6: illegal immigration, which the American people overwhelmingly oppose. If you

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Speaker 6: don't think it's illegal, you're not going to say it.

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Speaker 6: I think it is illegal and wrong.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen years ago, Buck, that is basically the Republican position.

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Speaker 3: Now that was the Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. Everybody

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Speaker 2: Then, yes, Well, what you see is the Democrats gain

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Speaker 2: And this is true on a whole range of issues.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is why, for example, if you're a

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama ran as a traditional marriage, non gay marriage

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Speaker 2: so you have power and then do the thing that

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Speaker 2: you're based once. That's how Democrats play the game at

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Speaker 2: every stage, and on the immigration issue, they now see

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Speaker 2: it as there are so many tens of millions of

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Speaker 2: people who have broken immigration laws to stay in the

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Speaker 2: to view it as their ticket to a one party state.

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Speaker 2: It's very obvious based on the demographic realities. It's obvious

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Speaker 2: a national election. And I think that it just goes

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Speaker 2: to show you that they will pick and choose what

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Speaker 2: laws are actually laws. And that's really fundamentally the problem

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Speaker 2: with their approach to immigration is that they undermine their

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Speaker 2: ability to tell you, well, the law is the law,

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Speaker 2: except on this on a huge scale, with millions and

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Speaker 2: millions of people in Clay. The people who are coming

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Speaker 2: in and saying that they are asylum seekers, they're frauds,

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Speaker 2: they're lying. They're not asylum seekers. They don't have fear

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Speaker 2: of a specific persecution related to their politics or religion

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Speaker 2: or ethnicity in their home country. They want welfare, they

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Speaker 2: want free health care, they want people to pay for

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Speaker 2: their stuff, and if that bankrupts the city like New York,

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Speaker 2: too bad. We owe it to them. That's what's really

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Speaker 3: And the question is and again this was another big

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Speaker 3: this home. There's a direct political advantage that they're getting

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Speaker 3: right now because all these illegal immigrants get counted in

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Speaker 3: the census. And every Democrat senator voted against changing census

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Speaker 3: Not only that, I mean it dilutes your overall political

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Speaker 4: You've endorsed Donald Trump for president. Donald Trump has been

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Speaker 8: Donald, they are judged, and they're shamed, and you're trying

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Speaker 2: I give a lot of credit to Nancy mace here Clay,

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Speaker 3: Sexual Like that's a big deal here. That to me

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Speaker 2: Why that is not true? In fact?

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that Nancy Mace, Uh, she probably

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Speaker 2: Different than rape. I'm sorry, it just is.

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Speaker 3: You could be guilty of sexual assault if you walk

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Speaker 2: Well, a few things. One the jury, and this often happens,

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Speaker 2: of how you weigh the evidence. The jury may say, well, look,

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Speaker 2: we can't you know, we don't know it's a he said,

438
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Speaker 2: she said, we don't know if he raped her, So

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Speaker 2: it's only civil. Let's say that we'll take the you know,

440
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Speaker 2: we'll split the baby, so to speak, and we'll do

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Speaker 2: a sexual assault, but not not liable for the actual

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Speaker 2: rape or the act of you know, forcible penetration, whatever

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Speaker 2: it may be under the statute. So you know, they

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Speaker 2: may they might just give him the And this often happens.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons why actually prosecutors, even in criminal trials,

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Speaker 2: sometimes we'll throw all these different counts in there because

447
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Speaker 2: they figure maybe a jury will say, well, we want

448
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Speaker 2: to get them on one thing, not the top count.

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Speaker 2: We'll get them on something else. So that may have

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Speaker 2: factored in here, Especially in a civil case where no

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Speaker 2: one's going to prison, you may say, you know, maybe

452
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Speaker 2: she's telling the truth, maybe she's not. We'll go for

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Speaker 2: the lesser, the lesser of the two. But even beyond that,

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Speaker 2: to your point on Joe Biden, Okay, so guess what

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Speaker 2: if Joe Biden lived in a state you know that

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Speaker 2: was very red and they decided to change state statute

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Speaker 2: to allow for a specific anti Joe Biden lawsuit effectively

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Speaker 2: to go forward, same thing would happen. You put him

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Speaker 2: in front of you could put him in front of

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Speaker 2: a red state jury and they would say, yeah, Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: his senatorial aid says that he he physically, you know,

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Speaker 2: groped her, and actually, you know, went beyond that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it would be considered, not to get too into the

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Speaker 2: details here, but would be considered a rape in some

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Speaker 2: statutes and under some statutes and jurisdictions. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: then you have Joe Biden as a rapist, and you

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Speaker 2: have a running around saying he's a rapist too. But

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Speaker 2: neither one of them can actually mount any kind of

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Speaker 2: real defense because there's a statute of limitations for a reason.

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Speaker 2: There's no eye witnesses other than the two individuals involved

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Speaker 2: in this. There's no physical evidence of any kind. She

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Speaker 2: said that she wore some dress. The dress wasn't even

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Speaker 2: made then. I mean, in a criminal trial, I think

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Speaker 2: this stuff would have gotten a lot more cross examination

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Speaker 2: and Folcus is, but I mean, George Stephanopolis really wants

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Speaker 2: to believe that Trump is a rapist. And I just

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Speaker 2: sit here and say, in all honesty, I don't believe

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Speaker 2: Trump raped that woman at all. I just don't believe it,

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Speaker 2: based on her story, based on her attitude about it,

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Speaker 2: based on everything, and to quarter Nancy Mace on this

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Speaker 2: who was raped by her own admission, and it was

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Speaker 2: very painful, very difficult experiences. She's kept with her, carried

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Speaker 2: with her a whole life since the incident. You know

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Speaker 2: why Stephanopolis would go there with a if you think

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Speaker 2: you do this with a Democrat member of Congress, played

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Speaker 2: now million years.

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Speaker 3: Zero percent, and a couple of other things the jury

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Speaker 3: initially found and staff correct me if I'm wrong on this,

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Speaker 3: but I again I'm working through off memory. I believe

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Speaker 3: they gave five million dollars to Egene Carroll for the

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Speaker 3: sexual assault again not the rape, the sexual assault that

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Speaker 3: they found in the civil suit, and then just pointing

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Speaker 3: out how crazy all this is. The second suit they

494
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Speaker 3: found I think eighty three million dollar verdict because Trump

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Speaker 3: denied that he sexually assaulted her. So the actual sexual assault,

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Speaker 3: the jury that hurt all that evidence, said we're going

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Speaker 3: to give her five million dollars. And then you want

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Speaker 3: to know what a kangaroo court situation we're in? How

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Speaker 3: would you get less money for sexual assault and more

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Speaker 3: money for someone saying she's a liar, I didn't actually

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Speaker 3: sexually assault her. Like the whole legal proceedings that are

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Speaker 3: going on right now in New York. As a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: I look at them and say, this is just a culmination.

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Speaker 3: We're stacking one after the other of absurdly ludicrous propositions.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's Letitia James saying mart A Lago's only worth

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Speaker 3: eighteen million dollars when it's probably worth six hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that's a crazy proposition. By

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Speaker 3: itself or somehow Egene Carol getting five million dollars for

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Speaker 3: an alleged sexual assault when the jury found that Trump

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Speaker 3: did not rape her, and then getting eighty three million

511
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Speaker 3: dollars when Trump says I didn't actually rape her, and

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Speaker 3: the whole process here, I think demands that there be examination.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that we're going to get it, because

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Speaker 3: New York is so beyond the pale in terms of

515
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Speaker 3: losing basic presidential and fair play and justice. But all

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Speaker 3: of this is Shenanigan's of the utmost and the idea

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Speaker 3: that you would have this so screwed up and we

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Speaker 3: wanted to play too here right before we go to

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Speaker 3: break at the end of this hour. This was one

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Speaker 3: of Russia's favorite clips. This is from when he tried

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Speaker 3: to talk a reporter out of coming forward with an

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Speaker 3: allegation against him.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this, Thank you yourself.

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you that if you do this, you'll never

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Speaker 4: work in democratic politics again. Nobody will believe you.

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Speaker 2: And people will think you're scumming.

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Speaker 4: The alternative is you don't do it. It causes you

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Speaker 4: some temporary pain with people who tomorrow on cann matter

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Speaker 4: and you have a campaign that understands it in a

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Speaker 4: difficult time.

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Speaker 2: He did something right.

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Speaker 3: That is George stepanopfl is trying to talk someone out

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Speaker 3: of coming forward and alleging that Bill Clinton had behaved

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Speaker 3: inappropriately with them.

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Speaker 2: By the way, and I entirely believe that Bill Clinton

536
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Speaker 2: is a sexual predator and have for a very long time,

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Speaker 2: based on the evidence, the contemporary testimony, the people coming forward,

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Speaker 2: his behavior, his patterns of lying. I mean, so you

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Speaker 2: know it's interesting, isn't it. Democrats, it was all but

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Speaker 2: the economy and you know, relative peace. Who cares about

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Speaker 2: Bill Bill Clinton's personal life. No, Bill Clinton acted like

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Speaker 2: a sexual predator. There's plenty of evidence. Numerous women have

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Speaker 2: a to have a tested to that in the past,

544
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Speaker 2: but Democrats were willing to cover that all and ignore

545
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Speaker 2: it all the time because you know, it's really advantageous

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Speaker 2: to have no principles. This is the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: Imagine grilling Nancy mayce Buck when you're on camera telling

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Speaker 3: someone who alleges that they were a victim that they

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Speaker 3: would never work in Democrat politics again and that they

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Speaker 3: better keep their mouth shut. That was Stepanopolis from is

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Speaker 3: a political operative for the Democrats. Still still he's this

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm a little journalist. Oh I do my

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Speaker 3: show on Sundays and I'm a journalist. I don't see

554
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Speaker 3: to here and pretend like I'm a journalist. Neither are you.

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Speaker 2: We give our opinion. People know what we think on things.

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Speaker 2: They know whose team were on, they know what you know,

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Speaker 2: who we're voting for. This, this whole thing Stephanopolis belongs

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Speaker 2: to this era of corporate propaganda, just just left wing lies.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that he got caught up this time around.

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Speaker 2: And Nancy Mace, you know, look, I give her credit.

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Speaker 2: I think she saw exactly what it was and she

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Speaker 2: stood her ground and she she made him pay the

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Speaker 2: price for his underhandedness in that Sunday show. So eight

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Speaker 2: to staggering five point seven billion dollars in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: to you about Well New York and the National Guard

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Speaker 2: deployment to the subway system. They have no police powers,

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Speaker 2: they can't really do anything. The whole thing is absurd,

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Speaker 2: very straightforward. Lock up criminals. People who are criminals are

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Speaker 2: going to pray on their fellow Americans, their fellow human

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Speaker 2: beings in New York or any place in this country

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Speaker 2: freedom if they pose a real and continuing threat. It's

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Speaker 2: not hard, or at least it's straightforward. Maybe it would

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Speaker 2: take a bit of effort to clean it up, but

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Speaker 2: that's with the police situation and the subways. Now we've

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Speaker 2: got the dy the Fire Department of New York getting

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Speaker 2: a bunch of attention and clay. It's funny. I can't

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Speaker 2: remember them all, but I didn't realize how many jokes

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Speaker 2: there were that NYPD guys tell about FDNY guys and

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Speaker 2: vice versa until I worked at the Intel Division for

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Speaker 2: about a year. There is a healthy rivalry, perhaps even

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Speaker 2: sometimes a little unhealthy, but a healthy rivalry between those

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Speaker 2: two entities and organizations. As a New Yorker, you're used

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Speaker 2: to seeing them both all the time. And Letitia James

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Speaker 2: is at the center of this controversy. She was invited

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Speaker 2: this was a couple of weeks ago, to a promotion

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Speaker 2: ceremony and she was invited to this fd ANDY promotion ceremony,

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Speaker 2: and people in firefighters in the audience booed her and

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Speaker 2: also began to chant an, you want to guess Trump,

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Speaker 2: Trump Trump. Let's hear some of what this sounded like

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Speaker 2: at this promotion.

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, we're in a house of God for

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Speaker 1: that recognition.

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Speaker 2: You heard it. They're boo They start of saying Trump

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Speaker 2: Trump Trump. I will say, firefighters a lot of very

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Speaker 2: patriotic firefighters in New York City and elsewhere across the country.

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Speaker 2: But the firemen you can count on to have a

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Speaker 2: sensible view of the city and the country that they

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Speaker 2: live in. But Clay, what's getting even more fired up

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Speaker 2: for some people here is they're now saying they're going

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Speaker 2: to hunt down. They're going after New York Post reporting

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Speaker 2: on this, going after the people who booed and threatening consequences,

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Speaker 2: and the word used was hunt down. The FDN Y

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Speaker 2: Commissioner or chief of Operations or whatever says that she

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Speaker 2: is going to find them and punish them or they

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Speaker 2: should come forward. Alan Dershowitz has come out swinging on

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Speaker 2: this one. Have you seen this, saying that if they're

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Speaker 2: allowed to, if you're allowed to clap or cheer at

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Speaker 2: an event. You are allowed to boo at an event.

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Speaker 2: You are not allowed to have silence. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to the opinion, you can say you can't make noise,

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Speaker 2: you can't disrupt the event, but you can't say only cheers,

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Speaker 2: no booze.

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Speaker 3: Alan Dershowitz is one of the few, I would say

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Speaker 3: leftists who has remained committed to principle over politics. And

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Speaker 3: that sounds easy to do, but everybody wants to talk about, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: you're going to be judged on the wrong side of history,

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Speaker 3: and you know.

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Speaker 2: That that's one of their big arguments.

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Speaker 3: I actually think fifty or one hundred years from now,

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Speaker 3: let's say one hundred years from now, because everybody who

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Speaker 3: is listening right now will not be alive, will all

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Speaker 3: be gone, History will truly be able to judge us

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Speaker 3: without any of the preconceived perspectives out there that might

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Speaker 3: have been biases at the time. I think the Alan

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Speaker 3: Dershowitzes of the world are going to stand up very

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Speaker 3: well for history. And I think Joe Biden and Merrick

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Speaker 3: Garland and Jack Smith and all of the basically mechanization

653
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: of the political process to try to put political rivals

654
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: in prison will look awful historically, I.

655
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: Could be wrong.

656
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: That's one of the great things about history is all

657
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: of us have no idea how we're going to be

658
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: judged by it, which is why I don't give a

659
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: flip about what somebody's going to say about me two

660
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: hundred years. I hope somebody has an idea that I

661
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: haven't existed two hundred years from now or one hundred

662
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: years from now, because the reality is anybody who studies history,

663
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: most of us, no one will have any clue that

664
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: we ever existed. Sorry, one hundred years from now, certainly

665
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: not two hundred years from now. And the way that

666
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: people study history now this is a downer. I guess

667
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't into this play is really showing up to

668
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: Bummerville today. Population. Just if you're worried about what people

669
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: who probably are going to have no idea you ever existed,

670
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: think about the decisions that you made. You have no

671
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: conception of what history is actually often like so, but

672
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 3: I think to the extent that we do that Alan

673
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: Dershowitz's of the world are going to look very good

674
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: because what typically matters is not your individual opinion, it's

675
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: whether you stood up for precedent and managed to remain

676
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 3: consistent regardless of you stood for principle over politics. That's

677
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: what usually ends up looking good historically. But think about

678
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: the impulse he or the inclination of the bureaucracy at

679
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: the top of total and why is to punish people

680
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: as though they're not allowed to dislike the honestly awful

681
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: Attorney General for the State of New York.

682
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: You're not allowed. And it's a reminder that one thing

683
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: on this is always true, one thing that power mad

684
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: democrats all share in common. They will not abide mockery.

685
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: You are not allowed to make fun of them. You

686
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: are not allowed to humiliate them. If they have a

687
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: means of getting at you to stop you from doing that,

688
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: they will do it. They will trample on the Constitution,

689
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: they will ruin careers, they will ruin reputations in livelihoods,

690
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: because they absolutely, like all tyrants, they cannot abide mockery

691
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: because it exposes an underlying truth. The Attorney General for

692
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: the State of New York is weaponizing the law in

693
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: the service of an anti Trump and therefore anti Republican

694
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: agenda in a way that has damaged the rule of

695
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: law in her state and honesty nationwide. And it's appalling

696
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: what she's done. It's completely unprincipled. It's the worst kinds

697
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: of abuseive power, an abusive authority, an attorney general could

698
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: really engage in. And clearly if she could get away

699
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: with locking Donald Trump in a cell, she would. She

700
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: just doesn't have that ability. Alvin Bragg seems hell bent

701
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: on doing that, among others. And we're supposed to sit

702
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: back and accept this quietly, you know. That's the part

703
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: of it. Now, not only are they doing this to Trump,

704
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: but shut up, you're not allowed to do us. Oh really,

705
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: we'll see about.

706
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: That, I think again, coming back to the Dershowitz part,

707
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: if they try to track anybody down here, this is

708
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: going to blow up in the face of the Fire

709
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 3: Department in New York in a major way.

710
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: I don't like the idea at all that you.

711
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: Should be attending a what's effectively a political rally if

712
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: you're only allowed to cheer. That is Orwellian in the

713
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: concept of you have to either sit quietly or cheer

714
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: for somebody that you disagree with. No, and I would

715
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: say this, whether it's Biden, whether it's Trump, whether it's

716
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: RFK junior. If you are forced to be there at

717
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: a rally, you should be able to react to it.

718
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Now, I distinguish this.

719
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Speaker 3: Did you see over the weekend Ted Cruz posted that

720
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: for the I don't know seventh or eighth consecutive weekend

721
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: morning at seven am, people have shown up protesting his

722
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: stance on Israel pro Palestinian protesters. I don't think you

723
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: should be able to show up at anybody's house. I

724
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 3: am at the house. This is at the house, totally

725
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 3: right out inside.

726
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: Look, this is a violation of noise ordinance. Again, there

727
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: can be rules, but the rules have to be not

728
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: in the service of politics. Okay, no one should be

729
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: allowed to make noise in an area where there are

730
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: noise ordinates. I don't care if it's to protect reproductive pride.

731
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Sight doesn't matter. And at some point we can all

732
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: understand as well there are time and place restrictions on

733
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: all kinds of speech. And the Left now engaging in this,

734
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: this thuggish behavior of sending people outside of Supreme Court

735
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: justices homes and Ted cruz Is home for example. And

736
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: also think about this too. Who are I mean, just

737
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: for a moment, who are these imbeciles that are so

738
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: upset about what's going on in Palestine. How many? First

739
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: of all, there is no Palestine. But in Gaza they're

740
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: so upset about this. What do they know about this?

741
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: And why are they so upset about this? Do they

742
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: know that there are four hundred thousand people who have died,

743
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: four hundred thousand people have died in the Many Civil War,

744
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: which is still ongoing, tens of thousands of children killed.

745
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: They don't care. They just don't care.

746
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck, at seven am,

747
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: I would be opposed to any group that showed up

748
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: to wake me up at seven am on a Saturday

749
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: or a Sunday morning.

750
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, because you're not. You're just harassing someone. It's

751
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: not speech, it's harassment. If you want to stand outside

752
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: of the you know, you want to stand outside the

753
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: Senate building and you want to sit there for eight hours,

754
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: and you know, as long as you're not violating DC

755
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: ordinances and you want to do your plat, fine, that's

756
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: that's speech, you know. I mean, this is like, this

757
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: is why. Also I'm very people about They know this

758
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: about me. I'm very noise sensitive. Noise, noise, vibrations it's actually.

759
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: You know about the boss in Miami Beach that was

760
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 3: totally unacceptable.

761
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: Whatever it was, Bus twenty seven or something. I had

762
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: to track it down. They got it fixed. But noise,

763
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean, anyone doesn't believe this. Noise is a form

764
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: of intrusion. And you know, noise and on they can

765
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: keep you up. I mean enough noise can damage your hearing,

766
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: can actually do physical damage to you. So this notion

767
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: of oh, I'm just you know, I'm just like outside

768
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: your home with bullhorns. That this is how you drive

769
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: people crazy when they're in detention. Right, if you want

770
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 2: to drive you just keep waking them up. Eventually they'll

771
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: lose their mind. So this idea that you can just

772
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: make whatever noise you want. This but this is what

773
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: the childish idiocy of the left always devolves into. They

774
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: can't win arguments, so they just scream and pout. Because

775
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: the Democrats and the Left are the party of babies,

776
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: Oh so should the party of narcissistic and childish adults.

777
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: They're definitely not the party of babies because we know

778
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: what they do with babies.

779
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: But all this to me ties in we want speech,

780
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: but only speech that's permissible and powerful and endorsing of us,

781
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: and so I I see those things as connected. We're

782
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: going to track down a New York fire department, but

783
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: we're going to show up outside of Ted Cruz and

784
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: beat drums.

785
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: No, whether it's Leticia James or Chuck Schumer or Hochel

786
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: or anyone else in New York or any other blue enclave.

787
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: They believe in free speech, just like they have it

788
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: in Kazakhstan or Turkmenistan. You are totally free to suck

789
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: up to those in power and do whatever they tell

790
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: you to do and use the words they tell you

791
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: can use and not use, by the way, So they

792
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: believe in free speech Kazakhs style, and that's how that tissue.

793
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: James operates, That's how Chuck Schumer, that's how Hokel, That's

794
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: how all of them operate. And I think people see

795
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: it for what it is.

796
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: I think that's one hundred percent right when we come back,

797
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: by the way, positive news that I think some of

798
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: you are going to enjoy. I am giddy about it

799
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: because I think it's it's a win for America. I'll

800
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: tell you what it is, and it relates to the

801
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 3: world of sports a bit I'll hit.

802
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: You with that when we come back. In the meantime, Buck,

803
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: what you got for us? Clays He's departing from Bummerville,

804
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: so I am.

805
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: I'm leaving the Yeah, we're all gonna die and most

806
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,560
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We have the Attorney

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Speaker 2: for us. Let's jump right into it. You want to

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Speaker 2: talk to us today. We've got a few things to

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Speaker 2: go over with you. But the Biden administration is playing

841
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Speaker 2: some games with funding at the border. Tell us what's happening.

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00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they've been doing this ever since they started.

843
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Speaker 7: I think the number was one point four billion a year,

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847
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Speaker 7: patrolled the other agencies that were involved in building the

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Speaker 7: we sued them, arguing that the president can't reappropriate money

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Speaker 7: or not spend it the way that he's directed, and

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Speaker 7: he cannot order agencies to not spend money the way Congress,

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Speaker 7: the elected representatives direct, and we got a good ruling

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Speaker 7: that money on the thing that Congress directed, which was

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Speaker 7: the wall.

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Speaker 3: I want you to first of all, that's fantastic. We

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00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: appreciate the work you're doing. I know you guys just

858
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: had a primary, and by the way, it's good to

859
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: have you on again. But can you tell us what

860
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: results you saw come out of the Texas primary, because

861
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: I know Texas has turned into a battleground not only

862
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 3: to make sure that Republicans continue to win, but also

863
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Speaker 3: that Republicans who actually want to fight win explain to

864
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Speaker 3: us what's going on. And what I would say is

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Speaker 3: somewhat of a civil war inside of the Republican Party

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Speaker 3: in Texas right now.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's interesting. It's almost like we have some some

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Speaker 7: Republicans trying to sabotage other Republicans and it's I would say,

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Speaker 7: the last election we just had, which is primary a

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Speaker 7: couple days ago, was the most important significant elections since

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Speaker 7: I've been involved in politic and probably since I moved

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Speaker 7: to Texas when I went to college. And that's because

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Speaker 7: we had a Texas House for the last fifteen years

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Speaker 7: that's Republican controlled, and so the media can say, oh,

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Speaker 7: these are Republicans, and so you know, what they're doing

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Speaker 7: must be good because it's Republican. And the reality is

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Speaker 7: the Speaker of the House in Texas for the last

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Speaker 7: fifteen years has been elected by the Democrats. And everybody's like,

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Speaker 7: what nobody told us that. Well, the media doesn't cover that.

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Speaker 7: But the way it works, with one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 7: House members, you need seventy six votes to be speaker. You,

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Speaker 7: of course they're going to vote for yourself. With sixty

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Speaker 7: five Democrats, they block vote and they figure out which

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Speaker 7: Republican will give us the most who will block border security?

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Speaker 7: Who will block in election and terry who have blocked

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Speaker 7: the big Republican issues, who will impeach Ken Paxton for

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Speaker 7: the Bide administration. Well, we had a guy that did it,

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Speaker 7: Dave Feeling, And Dave Feeling was willing to trade whatever

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Speaker 7: he needed to trade, and then all he needs is

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Speaker 7: ten Republican votes and he walks around. He says to

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Speaker 7: Dustin Burrows or Craig Bonnon and says, hey, you guys

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Speaker 7: want to be chair of Appropriations? Do you want to

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Speaker 7: be chair of Calendars? That the most important committees in

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Speaker 7: the House. And they trade their vote for that. That's

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Speaker 7: how That's how it has been done. And then these

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Speaker 7: other Republicans flock in and we don't we share a

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Speaker 7: vote among our cautus and we should decide as Republicans

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Speaker 7: who we want instead of letting the Democrats. And this

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Speaker 7: election went after a lot of those Republicans, included figure

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Speaker 7: the House who have pushed this agenda Ford. So that

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Speaker 7: was one of the election issues. The second was Quartercom Appeals,

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Speaker 7: which is a Republican group of nine members. Everybody again

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Speaker 7: the sims of Republican, but they struck down a statute

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Speaker 7: from nineteen fifty one that had thousands of cases of

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Speaker 7: president where we were allowed as Attorney general to prosecutevo

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Speaker 7: to fraud. And we had at the time when they

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Speaker 7: did this, over nine hundred cases going, so we had

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Speaker 7: real legitimate voter fraud. All my attorneys that were doing that,

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Speaker 7: there were four of them that were appropriate about the

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Speaker 7: legislatures do this, We're all busy, And all of those

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Speaker 7: went away because the court klonel Field, said that it

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Speaker 7: was unconstitutional, because the separation of powers, because I'm in

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Speaker 7: the executive branch. For me to go to court, that

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Speaker 7: was what they said, it was insane, and so we

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Speaker 7: had to run three people against them, and we overwhelmingly

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Speaker 7: won those three races.

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Speaker 2: Speaking to Attorney General Ken Paxton for the State of Texas,

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Speaker 2: mister Furney, General, can you just tell us some of

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Speaker 2: the other ways. And we started out talking about the

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Speaker 2: Biden effort to move around and really misappropriate funds that

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Speaker 2: are supposed to be spent a certain way at the border.

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Speaker 2: What are the ways? Because this is right at the

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Speaker 2: forefront now of the illegal immigration battle for this country.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a huge issue in the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four election, not just for the presidency, but I

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Speaker 2: think all down a lot of the down ballot tickets

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Speaker 2: will be affected by this as well. How are the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: how's the Biden administration making it harder for Texas to

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Speaker 2: help secure the border? What are the actions they're taking

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Speaker 2: that proved that it's a lie when they say they

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Speaker 2: want border security too?

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Speaker 7: Well, the at verse of all. The very first thing

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Speaker 7: they did was saying, first on day one, Biden said

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Speaker 7: we're not deporting anybody. And then he dismantled remain in Mexico. Dismantled,

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Speaker 7: he stopped the whole. He continued to catch and release

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Speaker 7: instead of stopping it like Trump did. He stopped building

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Speaker 7: the wall. He ended Title forty two helping us keep

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Speaker 7: people out based on medical issues. He did everything possible

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Speaker 7: to help the cartel. Then he signaled to the cartels,

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Speaker 7: get your people, get as many people here as fast

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Speaker 7: as possible. And by the way, since you're doing that

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Speaker 7: so well, let's also fly thirty thousand in a month.

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Speaker 7: We'll pay for it from Benzewela, Nicaragua, Hati and one

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Speaker 7: other country. And we're paying for it. So they've done

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Speaker 7: everything possible to dismantle everything that works, and their claim

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Speaker 7: now since the polling as bad as that, it's the

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Speaker 7: Republican's fault because they won't change the immigration laws. There's

948
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Speaker 7: nothing wrong with the immigration laws. And I'm not saying

949
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Speaker 7: you shouldn't update up the immigration law, but there's nothing

950
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Speaker 7: wrong with if they've been enforced. We know what happens

951
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Speaker 7: because Donald Trump did it. And the reality is Joe

952
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Speaker 7: Biden not only didn't enforce it, he's encouraged the cartels

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Speaker 7: to get their people here as fast as possible, and

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Speaker 7: the Biden administration would take the handoff because they're not

955
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Speaker 7: hiding him anymore. They're just coming straight to boarder patrol.

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Speaker 7: And then the Biden administration moved them to the states

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Speaker 7: where they think they get an advantage on future elections

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Speaker 7: and on the census.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to it Ernie General Ken Paxon.

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Speaker 3: I want to build on that because I'm gonna be

961
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Speaker 3: honest with you, I had no idea that we were counting,

962
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Speaker 3: and I bet a huge percentage of our audience didn't either.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of embarrassed I didn't know because it's so

964
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Speaker 3: significant and explain so many of the decisions right now,

965
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Speaker 3: illegal immigrants are counted for purposes of the census, which

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Speaker 3: means Democrats I saw Emlon Musk tweet this are getting

967
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Speaker 3: a benefit potentially of around twenty congressional seats based on

968
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Speaker 3: being able to count these individuals for purposes of representation

969
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Speaker 3: of congressional seats. Every seat roughly seven hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 3: Were you aware of this for years?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you were.

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Speaker 3: I was not, And again I'm embarrassed that I wasn't.

973
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Speaker 3: I've bet a lot of people out there aren't. And

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Speaker 3: how do we fix this?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think that Trump was the one

976
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Speaker 7: that tried to stop this from happening. I think during

977
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Speaker 7: his administration they were pushing towards not counting this. Of course,

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Speaker 7: somebody got in the bide administrationmen, actually we're doing the census,

979
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Speaker 7: and it was it's become a huge problem. And and

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Speaker 7: this is I think been the strategy all along. They

981
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Speaker 7: wanted to place these people where they get the most advantage.

982
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Speaker 7: I'm counting congressional districts, and you're right, this is all

983
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Speaker 7: about controlling the House, because that's where they've had trouble winning.

984
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Speaker 7: And by adding congressional districts that only they can win

985
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Speaker 7: by counting people that can't vote. Yeah, so I haven't.

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Speaker 7: I was aware. I think I became aware of it

987
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Speaker 7: a few years ago, and we were trying to figure

988
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Speaker 7: out how we might have standing to do something about it.

989
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Speaker 7: But you know, you're in so many different lawsuits with

990
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Speaker 7: the Biden administration, trying to figure out which ones you

991
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Speaker 7: think you are the best chance of winning and stopping

992
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Speaker 7: you know, the most crazy, crazy things. But that clearly

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Speaker 7: is something I think we need to address.

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Speaker 2: Earning general, packs and appreciate you being with us, sir, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, have a great day. Thanks for having me on again.

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