WEBVTT - Conversations About Black Guns 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 Wat's up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.520 Sellings Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:14.360 low glasses Malone. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.919 Well, I saw an opportunity that I thought would be 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.479 interesting for the audience and for all parties involved to 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:26.200 have a little discussion about Second Amendment, about gun rights, 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:27.360 gun realities. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.080 So I brought an expert. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:35.200 On here, Black guns Matter, bathroom Malone. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.520 A different take on on guns. But you know, let's 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.920 see where this goes. So I like that though. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.479 That's good for your first No Seilings opening. That's pretty 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.080 fucking good. Yeah. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.519 Usually I'm a counterpuncher. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:54.920 Yeah, I see. Well, I don't even know because I 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.200 don't really think we really spar like that. I don't 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.279 I think even if our ideas are different, I think 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.800 I'm a little too civilized to worry about if we disagree. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:04.920 Yeah. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.080 That like you don't really get the crypt like that, 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:14.600 you know what I mean, You get like just glasses low. Yeah, 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.560 So you gotta go do your things, people hold up 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.160 because do your think. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.119 Well, I mean, I. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.440 Was just gonna try to see if I can set 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.560 off you guys each stating a thesis about your opinions 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.360 on guns. Yeah, and then kind of where's the asymmetry 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.720 and why or where where's the parallels? 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.959 So classes you you know you can't be anti gun. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:46.679 No, I got guns. Yeah, But but honestly, the way 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:52.600 I feel about guns, yeah, is uh, everybody should have 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.840 them or nobody should have them. And when I mean 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.560 nobody should have them, I mean no police agencies, no 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:04.480 government agencies, know nothing. So it's guns for everybody or 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.920 guns for none. That's that's my only feel. And because 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.639 one person has one gun, I have a lot of guns. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.440 Yeah. I viewed that the same way that the caveat. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.200 That I add onto that, though, is I don't care 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.840 if everybody else don't got them, because I can't trust 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.560 to anybody that say they don't got them. No one 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.040 telling the truth, and I don't live off of trust. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:29.679 Trust is not a good tactic or strategy, right Actually no, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.440 you know the situation and then you can still get burnt. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:37.839 But like to me, I understand that sentiment, which is yo, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.280 if we I do agree that if we got to 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.880 a place in the human condition where people was like yo, 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.440 we kind of don't really need to like do this. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:51.120 We can usually negotiate things out and respectfully part ways. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.000 On areas that where we disagree. Do I think that 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.520 the human condition is going that way. I think it 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.160 would be if the government wasn't so involved and like 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.440 poking at people and creating interdacing rivalries. But the government 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.120 in the state is always going to do that. So 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.000 I think that it would be great for the human 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.040 condition to go in that direction. I just don't think 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.520 people are disciplined enough to do that. And here's the 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.160 other thing. They don't have to be disciplined enough to 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.079 do that. They don't have to. They don't They don't 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.160 have to say I want shangri la and I want peace. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.799 They don't have to. That's actually what I strive for. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.160 That's why we deal so much with conflict resolution at 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:28.840 our classes. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:31.720 What classes do you teach? 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.680 We do basic our organization, Black Guns Matter. We're a 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:41.200 firearms training organization. We do basic firearms training for anybody 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.440 across the country that wants to learn for free. We 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:48.880 do a hardcore emphasis on conflict resolution and safety though included. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:49.240 In that class. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.600 We've raised a little bit over six hundred thousand dollars 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.400 over the last few years, given in a way to 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.640 like just like it ain't because it ain't like my bread, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.200 Like I don't got the point sitting around like in 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.480 the But we raised and we just gave it away 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.720 like when we do these classes. We wanted to remove 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.520 the financial barrier to entry for anybody that just wanted 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:15.560 to learn. And we started in twenty sixteen, you know 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.960 how like when the first Trump rally, not rally, but 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.840 campaign was happening, and everybody, you know, every they're gonna 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.320 start it in a couple of months. Again, every couples 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.480 with it's a presidential election. Everybody talks about we need 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.160 to voters, registration drive, we need voters, and the conversation 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.680 is around that. So me and my partner at the 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.479 time was like, yo, bro, we we should have a 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.200 license to carry drive. And we had an event and 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.240 we was like, we're gonna call it Black Guns Matter, 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.480 because if you believe at that time, the BLM thing 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.320 was like heavy, and we were like, well, if you 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.320 believe the black lives matter, you should have the means. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.280 You shouldn't be mad at black guns mattering people. Black 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.240 folks and people in general should have the means to 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:00.040 defend themselves. So when we did that, we initially he 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.400 was like, yo, we're gonna have one event and like 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.880 we're gonna maybe get thirty or forty people in Philly 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:11.719 to come through, and like three hundred people showed up. Nice. Yeah, 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.320 and so I'm talking about people was from Jersey was like, Yo, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.920 what I heard about this? What we gotta do? And 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.839 then we we said, Yo, we might have something here. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.839 So we said, yo, wouldn't be cool if we did 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.320 the first thirteen. We did thirteen cities, like the first 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.200 thirteen colonies in America, and we just went there and 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.880 just told people how to do this. And we initially 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.840 had a goal of like twenty five grand because all 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.240 of the classes are free because of crowdfunded and so 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.560 you know, in your mind in the beginning, you're like, oh, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.159 we only gonna need twenty five Like imagine telling somebody 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.520 you're gonna do a thirteen city tour for twenty five 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.479 thousand dollars, right, But at that time we was like, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.919 you know whatever, and we did it. And then we 0:05:54.960 --> 0:06:01.440 started getting crazy angry emails people from outside of Chicago 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.080 was like, Yo, that's fucked up. You only care about Chicago. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.080 What about this small town right outside of Chicago? The 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.440 violence is messed up over here, or when we did, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.280 we did somewhere in Arkansas, and I remember this email. Crazy. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.760 This one lady was like, that's fucked up that you 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.800 don't care about us any small towns like I live 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.240 in Little Rock, Arkansas. It's horrible here and I need 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.920 to know. And we just kept going to Twitter and 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.680 just going like, Yo, do y'all think we should do 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.720 more of this? Should we do fifteen more cities? And 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.080 every time unequivocally, everybody was like yeah. And I was like, Yo, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.160 well this shit ain't free, Like we need some more funding, 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.560 you know, And people was like, yo, make the goal 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.240 of hundred grand, make the goal fifty thousand, make the 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.680 goal of hundred grand. We just kept going, and then 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.839 after a while when we hit like two fifty, and 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.760 then we hit like I think we hit like two fifty, 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.320 and I was like, listen, should we make the goal 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.680 like a million dollars? And everybody was like yes. And 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.800 then before that we were like, yo, should we do 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.840 every state in America? And everybody was like yes. And 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.400 people just saw me raising this money, doing all of 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.320 this media and just giving the classes away for free, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:18.400 and I mean, you know, I've done a lot of people, huge, huge, folks. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.640 You know we have a mutual homie Van Lathan, Yeah, 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.240 had this album he was on at TMZ. We've just 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.520 done all of these different platforms. And that's the long 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.680 version of saying what the work that we do and 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.480 how it started and how we got here. We got 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.160 maybe like three hundred thousand and some change left on 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.600 his goal and the remaining three hundred thousand will before 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.920 this summer in falls classes and buying our building that 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.400 we're in outright and so tennis to say, man, it's 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.000 been an interesting ride, but we've we had a stated 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:56.560 goal of making the black community become the newest largest 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.760 gun buying demographic. We said that from the gate in 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.480 twenty sixteen, and we did that in less than three 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.760 years with less than three hundred thousand dollars. And we 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.080 just traveled. We just went everywhere and just taught these 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:12.080 classes for free licenses to carry are up in black communities. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:17.040 How did you do you know every different states? Like, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.400 how did you get abreast of every state's gun law? 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.040 Did you just kind of prepare for it when you 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.360 went in like you would prepare for anything else. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.400 Yep, we just because it's a hodgepodge mix because some 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:28.320 states are you. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.840 Know, California is completely different than everything. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:36.200 East California is the worst, and Cali, Like, I'll go 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.360 to nip Spot every time I'm in La. I go 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.280 to nip Spot, you know, just out of respect when 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.120 things like that. But I'm never I'm not going to 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.080 fucking compt them without a gun. I'm just not. I'm 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.080 not doing that. I don't care about the rules. They're not. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.160 Actually the supreme rule, the supreme law Atlanta is the 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.440 Constitution and the Bill of Wrights, which is the Second Amendment, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.120 and that in that regard. But but yeah, I'll openly 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.480 tell people I don't follow any of them fucking rules 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:05.079 at all. My man, my man, if they want to 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.480 follow those rules, I'll make sure at our classes we 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.320 should we can explain to them and teach them exactly 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.680 how to follow all the rules get their license to carry. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.280 But everybody quite naturally asks me, like, damn, mis you, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.840 I don't. I do not have a license to carry anyway. 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.840 My homeboy, my home and not to cut you off, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.840 my homeboy, Manny uh Manny does aight Boys worldwide podcasts 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.440 on YouTube. It's like a YouTube show. It's every Friday, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.720 shout out to the boys worldwide. My niggas pun Fred 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.640 a couple of my partners, and he's like that. So 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.480 me and my partner Jau from Long Beach, we don't 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.600 We'll buy a gun over the table. Under the table, however, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.400 we buy guns, you know what I mean, Like, well, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.440 we don't care, we carry. We're not worried about no 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.520 cc w's like you know what I mean, we know 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.160 the exact laws, but that don't necessarily help what we're 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.000 trying to go through. But Manny is like that. My 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.640 Manny is a full a person that came up out 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.680 of the community, same way you know, a gang member 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.360 and all that. But he wants to carry based on 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.680 the law. And it's just so funny to me that 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:09.960 that's how he sees it is ship. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.760 It's hilarious he sees it that way because he's been conditioned. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:19.120 Licensing is the government selling you your rights back to you. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.360 You know what I'm saying. And so for example, if 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.760 I if I'm fishing, and if and that's if I 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.800 if the game warden or the the you know whatever 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.559 pulls up and they asked me for my fishing license, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.240 I'm good, which means I paid the state money to 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.640 say you can fish. If I don't have that, I'm 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.440 not good. That does not make you less safe or 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.520 more safe. It doesn't make the same thing with you 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.280 know when I when I drove like I drive his 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.119 license where you know, when I've drove dirty for decades 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.079 and it's like, I'm a safe driver. I got some 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.560 shit in the trunk that I cannot get pulled over 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.400 for driving without a license. Not now, I'm saying at 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:04.400 different times, sure, sure, Like I'm when when people just 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.320 got a suspended license and they trying to go to work, man, 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:12.240 they stopping full fully at the stop signs, they looking left, right, left. 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.480 So having the license in and of itself does not 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.880 make you more skilled or more safe. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.920 No, it just means the government has gave you permission 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.600 that you should have already to have these things. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.360 You you do have it already. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.760 To me, it seems more of a tax thing. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.640 Oh it's. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.240 I'm like, this seems like a racket. You know what 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:38.680 I'm saying. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.360 That's what the government is. The government. The government is 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.680 a protection racket by general y'all. Remember that TV show 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.800 called the A Team. Of course, remember I like all 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.880 of the people in the small town would like reach 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.520 out to like the A team and be like, Yo, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.199 there is this small group of guys that's like making 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:57.920 us pay. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.600 Money or abusing government. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.840 That's what the government is. They say, we will let 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:12.680 you do things if you pay us. Our shooters aka 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.440 a law enforcement will ride down through our communities and say, 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:23.480 if you are selling cigarettes and we don't get a cut, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:28.280 we will Eric garner you. That's what government is. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.480 You can so you're calling it a protection racket because 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.400 you feel like they sell it on to They sell 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.320 it to you behasked of safety. Yeah, so they convince 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.160 you that the world is almost like the gangs, like 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.320 like like like a gang would do in the community, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.920 be like, look, this is a protection you know situation. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.240 So you pay us for protection. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.720 It's every every every hip hop artist friend of mine 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.199 that I know that had a conversation about Cali as 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:59.600 it relates to checking in, don't fucking be here if 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.960 you have if we have not co signed it, and 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.800 that's what the American government is. And if you don't 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.760 pay me for the tax. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.480 You know, it's funny, dog like the checking in shit 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.880 has gotten so far out of control and it's not 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:21.120 even that dup, Like, you know, it's crazy because you 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.319 can be nobody will know you are in LA. There 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.040 are so many places you can be in LA and 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.439 won't people won't know you in LA. The problem is 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.560 like I've never looked at checking in like that. Like 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.760 whenever I go to any other state, I'm happy to 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.280 get with the brothers when I go to Philly, I'm 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.000 happy to get with the brothers. When I go to 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.280 New York, and I'm happy to get with the brothers Jersey. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.640 For me, I'm at the projects. I didn't been to 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:51.840 projects in Dayton, Ohio, ghettos in Cleveland, Cincinnati. I'm happy 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.160 to get with the brothers. And that's the concept of 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.719 checking in. I think the monetary feed comes in when 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.040 you want to be in the commun unity and you 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.720 want to do things to me that should be a 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.960 violation of human beings, whereas like you want to wear 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.520 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of jewelry where 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.080 people are poor with no opportunity. Yeah. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.320 I also think like in LA in this regard, there's 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:19.280 a lot of imagery in LA that has cash value, 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.640 soft cash value, so to speak, from a marketing commercial standpoint. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.320 You want to come down and take a picture from 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.000 the towers. You want to go down slows. You want 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.000 to go here, You want to go there, there's value there. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.440 You want to take the vans. Yeah, you want to. 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.960 Stand on North Parkway in Memphis. No one knows where 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:35.880 the hell I'm standing it. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.160 And I've had this conversation though, like, honestly, dog like 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.760 you want to show you are wearing racks of meat 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.560 where the wolves are right, you feel like, and it's 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.920 like it's really such a crappy thing that what the 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.040 fuckers want to do that rappers want to do. I'm 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.040 in the ghetto with all my jury. Why would you 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.240 want to be what motherfuckers is starving at with food 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.200 on your neck. I don't get it, And I argue 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.640 with niggas all the time, and I'm like, why would 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.000 you go there knowing like you know how much of 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.000 a piece of shit you gotta go to to go 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:13.160 to some poor town in Africa with a case of 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.200 Big Max and just sit there and eat them in 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.440 front of everybody and feel like there's some kind of 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.040 value in you because you can sit up there and 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:20.560 eat your. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.960 Food without breaking off. 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.840 Nobody else eat look even in baseball. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.960 The last time I was in La, right, it might 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.680 have been a time the time before, but I went. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.760 I went to nip Spot, and as you know, they're 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.440 redeveloping that area. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.400 Super getting getting super gentified by the day. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.560 Yeah, but it was dudes out there, still moving shirts. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.880 And every time I'm out there, I had, I pulled up, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:52.400 I had maybe like forty two dollars of cash. I know, 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.280 them T shirts that you're selling ain't necessarily the marathon. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.640 I know that, right, Some of them is. Some of 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.120 them may maybe six hundred dollars out there with the 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.400 brothers that was just out there hustling. It's not because 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.560 and when I go to when I go to knit Spot, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.360 he was. He was very instrumental in a lot of people. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.680 That is an example of us remembering someone that comes 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.680 from a democratic that we are from, whether you active 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:22.040 or not or whatever, or involved in games and met. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.720 Just hold that point because hip hop is not only 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.360 about the criminals. It's about how crime influenced your life. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.120 So it's both sides. As long as we came up 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.440 in this place where crime shaped the culture, like any 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.360 street urban community, so it's never you know, day La 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.280 Soul didn't come across as criminals tried. Didn't come I'm 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.240 sure Q Tip and it was doing some bullshit. Like 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.240 I'm not stupid. I don't give a fuck about with 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.400 none of these niggas saying Dayla Soul probably was doing 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.440 some bullshit. Tribe was probably doing some bullshit. I know 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.840 for sure, herk and and and all them niggas was 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.640 doing some bullshit. So it's how it influences your life 0:16:58.680 --> 0:16:59.840 and your flavor. 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:07.720 So to me, it became, let's showcase somebody that you know, 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.800 instead of just being a hustler, became a CEO. And 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.720 I want to always promote that energy. So when I 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.320 see people out there selling ship, yeah I'm gonna go 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.360 over to Fat Burger and I'm gonna get a burg 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.480 over there. Yeah I'm gonna go. I'ma I don't I 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:26.280 don't even care how much these shirts. I just want 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.760 to support because they're doing that. Saying that to say 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.720 it's also an olde and homage to a harsh reality 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:39.560 that the gun control laws in California. Even though Nick 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:45.119 was a positive for the community, his his record a 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.960 so called allowed this allowed him to have firearms even 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.119 though a lot of the brothers that had felon felonies 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.399 on a jacket, that were entrepreneurs in that community, and 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.720 that then that little strip Mall his life was taken 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.600 because he could not have the means on him to 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:02.400 defend himself. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:03.560 That's fair. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.960 That's fair, and I'm never gonna stop advocating for that. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.879 I'm never gonna stop highlighting that contradiction. I'm never not. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.280 I don't care when they build that high rise over there, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.240 I'm gonna show up at that high rise if it 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.040 happened to be somebody over there selling T shirts, I'm 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.560 gonna spend some money with them. If that fat burg 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.600 is still there, I'm gonna still spend some money with them. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.960 And I'm gonna still talk about the fact that I 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.399 blame outside of the dude, and I don't know the 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:31.560 end up working. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.280 S sure sure outside of that, he wasn't he didn't 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.800 have the right to just he should be freely able 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.280 to move around, especially the jungle, with the sense of protection. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:46.240 That's fair. And I see there is a you know, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.280 a nuance to it. Maybe if he has it, maybe 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.280 it's not, but it's different when he has it, you. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:51.680 Know what I mean. 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.080 And maybe you know, we don't know all the details, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.919 but I get exactly the point. You may God'll be 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.600 able to protect yourself, especially in that type of situation 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:06.119 where you somewhere trying to get the community back up 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.760 to a quality standard and you fighting against You know, 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.840 it's because it's a thousand people. Like I heard Meek 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.439 said to men. It blew me away. But I couldn't 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.159 be upset as much as I would like to. He 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.160 was like, yo, you can't go back to the hood. 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.800 And I'm like, I hate it when he said it, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.639 but I got why he said it, but I don't agree. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.879 But then even when you struggle to have a gun, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.720 it makes some of his point valid, you know what 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.639 I mean, Like we do. I genuinely believe we should 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.440 be willing to die for where we grew up at, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.880 not I mean spot right after I saw you. Yeah, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.760 I think we should be willing to die for each other, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.800 right because we all come from this background, right, this background, 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:49.919 so we have to create opportunities, and it is a 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.080 threat because people aren't doing well. And that's just the 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.080 reality of it. Everybody doesn't agree. 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.680 I'm in my community center right now. Fact community center 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.399 is in the middle of North Philly. You know what 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.520 I'm saying, the solutionary center is there, I go. We 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.080 targeted with black guns Matter, no pun intended. We targeted 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.040 black communities and urban communities that happened in rural community. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.040 If it was poor, we was going there. Yeah, I love, 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:23.520 I love. We were just in Memphis a couple of 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.920 weeks ago. I love hoods across America. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.160 I love the hoods and Memphis. 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:33.840 I can predict everything that's gonna I thinks the character 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:38.200 in the movie is the same character in every neighborhood. 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.080 They always you could he on some silly ship and 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.000 here it come. You know what I'm saying. He cool. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:49.159 You can feel you can feel it. But I the 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.119 reason why I also love it is because there's so 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:55.160 much creativity. There's so much flavor, right. 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.480 It's the flavor of the city of the state. So 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.560 and I'm with you with that. I don't care. You know, Yes, 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.080 you can lose your life. Yes I can go to 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.000 watch today and lose my life. Yes, I go to 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.119 car I don't give a fuck like I love it. 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.159 And I'm not gonna stop giving love to my folks 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.560 because of fear of you gotta die anyway. Now, that 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.080 doesn't mean I'm finna just go out here and act 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.040 the dumb ass, and I'm not finna give you you know, 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.159 let's be honest. I can afford a Cuban chain that 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.240 costs a kilogram, but it's like, why would I wear 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:25.199 that where I know people doing bad? If that was 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.399 the case, let me just give y'all some money. I 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.040 couldn't even be mad if a motherfucker if you got 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.440 a kilogram of fourteen carrot you know gold in the 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.119 Cuban link chain, you know what I mean, that's twenty 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.520 three thousand dollars roughly in gold. That's ten thousand dollars. 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.320 Who the fucks shouldn't rob me for that? It's you know, 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.840 how fucking crazy you gotta be in these type of 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.120 places where you can't eat that, and you shouldn't take 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.560 that from me. That should be the first I shouldn't 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:51.880 even argue with you at that bot. 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:56.960 It's like almost saying you made yourself lunch me. Yes, 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.040 you're easily accessible. You're easy to grab you a sandwich, bro, 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:07.280 And I'm not. I don't like it, you know, but 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.879 it's the reality. I don't like the United States government, 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.800 you know, in proxy wars is spending billions of billions 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.040 of dollars in Ukraine and giving them automatic weapons while 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:17.720 telling me I got to give them a tax in 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.480 order to do it. That's the reality they're doing though, 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.840 you know, and I think that again, to our classes, 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:28.120 that's a major portion of us talking about the conflict resolution, 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:32.560 avoidance and de escalation. When I engage, when I go 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.560 to Compton, when I go to Chicago, when I go 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.240 to when I'm in Philly, I and the people with 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.240 me have firearms and we're paying strict attention. But you 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.919 know what else we're doing. We are outside of that 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.680 paying attention. We are supportive, we are respectful, we are 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.359 avoiding conflict, and we are not doing anything that we 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.919 are placing ourselves in a space where you are damn 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.919 near tempting somebody to do something to you. Avoidance, I 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:02.359 went on of the fights that I'm not involved with, 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:07.920 I have no argument. I am a master of conflict 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:13.320 de escalation. I remember I was in some club, and 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.480 I don't even go to clubs like that at this point. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.600 If I'm not getting some resources for our communities, I'm 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.719 just really not interested, right, And so I was in 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.800 there and it's when the easy Slides came out, and 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.680 I just wanted to support the company, right, easy making. 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.320 You know, they comfortable. They ugly, but they comfortable right, 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.080 And I bought them and I think they might have 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.119 been like three fifty. It's some silly, way too absurd price, 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:42.160 but I wanted to support this dude stepped on my shoes, 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:46.639 my yeasy the first time I wore them five and 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:51.040 for that moment before I finished the story. Every human 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:55.359 has the right when stimuli happens and your reaction, that 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.359 space in between, that is your choice, your ability to 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:03.159 choose when that stimula happens and your reaction. In the 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:07.159 shooting world, that's called your UDA loop O d A. 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:12.840 Every time something happens, you observe, you orient, you decide, 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:17.159 and you act. To win, you have to slow up 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.960 the other person's uder loop the time that it takes 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.600 for them to observe, orient, decide, and act, and speed 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.080 yours up. So the person that can slow the other 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:30.120 person's uder loop up while speeding there's up nine times 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.719 out of ten is gonna win. So during that choice 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.560 with that stimulant and that reaction happens, that is the 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.200 choice and that process is the ooda loop. In that moment, 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.639 it felt like my ooder loop was forever. All I 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.480 could think about was how did you get here? Bro? 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.280 You are potentially about to get upset because this dude 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:56.440 step on your overly expensive not worth it but comfortable. 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.720 You have your reasons fly for why you bought them 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:03.760 expensive as fucking slides. He is in here not paying 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.240 attention to you, and he shouldn't be paying attention to 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.280 you because there's a lot of beautiful women in here 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.560 and everybody's drinking. Yeah, you decided to wear these motherfucking 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.480 expensive slides in this spot. He ain't paying attention to you. 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:22.919 Why are you actually upset? In reality? Bro? So I 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.440 had that moment with self and it was the perfect 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:30.520 example of me going, yeah, you kind of bugging, and 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.680 so I apologize to him for putting my foot under 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.080 his foot. Mind you, I have my gun on me 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:42.120 in here. And so the other thing is the next 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:46.399 thought was, yeah, you got your gun on you in here. 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.440 Who's to say that four out of five other motherfuckers 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:53.520 in here don't got they gun on them too? So 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:57.840 why is this thing that you decided to stunt with 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.000 these expensive ass ugly ass slides. 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.159 It ain't really worth nothing outside of what you pay for. 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.919 And the women that know what these slides are, you 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.439 still after him stepping on them, they're still going to 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.240 be like, oh you got them, yasy side, You're still 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:15.080 gonna leave here with something. This is a conversation that 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.320 we have to have with our young men especially, and 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.840 these are somebody experiences and examples that we use as 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.960 the highlight before we even get really really into the 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:29.600 nomenclature the safety component of the actual firearms. We tell 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.919 your young brothers, like, listen, if you came here because 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.320 you got opposition that you're trying to run down all later, 0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.560 this is not the space for you. It's just not. 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.679 We are not here to teach people how to be violent. 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.640 We are here to give you a high five if 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.400 you are very skilled and avoiding conflict, de escalating conflict, 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.240 and if you unfortunately have to stop conflict by using 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.640 your firearm. We want to give you that high five 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.000 because you stop an actual eminent threat to life, not 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.119 because he stepped on your slides. 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:08.600 Guns and gangs are the same thing, right They They 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:13.160 both give you this weird type of power. And if 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.960 you don't teach people at the home, how to be 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.359 responsible with power. They will misuse power. It's just like 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.280 joining the police force. You know, it's it's mark ass 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.280 niggas that that get a job at the police force 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.480 and abuse the power. It's mark ass niggas that start 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.920 running with the hommies and abuse the power. It's mark 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:36.240 as niggas that buy guns and abuse the power. And 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.640 it's because they wasn't taught how to be powerful. One 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.480 thing I give Olivia my mom wrestlers, sohold credit for it. 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.080 She taught me how to have power. She taught me 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:49.480 how to be powerful. And it's power, you know what 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:53.720 I mean A bond They hitting me with lightning right 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:54.960 and left, and I don't know if it's coming with 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:55.639 a mic or not. 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:56.680 I'm more looking back, like. 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:02.000 Yeah, I was like whoa. 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:02.720 At first, I. 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.440 Thought, man, someone wants to throw something really too big 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.040 down the trash shute. 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.320 And I was like, I was about Ronda Santa's town. 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:12.320 I thought there was bombing Ronde Santa State farm. I'm 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.480 waiting on that's why whatever. For sure, it's going to 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.520 be another civil war the way this shit haven't. But 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.440 I feel like I respect and the point I'm saying 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.439 is what's crazy is this is the craziest because we 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.800 usually don't do interviews, like we've never We just have 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.679 conversations about things. But it's it's interesting to listen to 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.480 what you're saying, and it's dope that you understand that 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.320 you have to teach people and you call it, you know, 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:42.800 like de escalation or conflict resolution, but how to handle power. Yeah, 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:47.680 because a gun, like like a gang, like the police 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:52.080 force is a powerful thing. It's crazy to have thirty 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:57.880 people behind you willing to push any agenda. Yeah, whether 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.560 it's above the law or you know, outside of the law. 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.680 My friend Thomas Massey, he's a public servant from the 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.840 Great State of Kentucky. He's a libertarian, but he ran 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:10.920 because I'm a libertarian. 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.080 He ran as a reponant as a libertarian. 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.600 A libertarian. The libertarian is the third largest political party. 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.280 Big Boy from outcast is a libertarian for like twenty 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:25.240 damn there thirty years. Most people identify or were introduced 0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.480 to libertarianism by an elder named Ron Paul. His son 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:30.440 is named Ran Paul. 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:34.800 He's a public sch but I don't know men about libertarian. 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:39.880 Libertarianism is a basic all of the guys that created 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.800 the founding documents, what they wrote down, however they handled 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.600 that might have been different, but they were what's called 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:51.480 classic liberals, which we would identify as libertarians today, right, 0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.320 And it basically means we don't want the government and 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.640 our shit. Government should pretty much exist for on a 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:01.200 national level, it should exist for a strong defense of 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:09.360 foreign invasion and interstate commerce, like very limited involvement. For 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:13.800 classic liberalism, classic liberalism, that word has been co opted. 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.120 I see exactly. 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.239 It's co opted the same way. Libertarians just believe. If 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.840 you had to, if you had to like summarize it, 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.600 it would be don't hurt people, don't take their stuff, 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.760 and that includes the government. Right. This is why the 0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.560 Republicans and the Democrats work so hard to make sure, 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.640 especially in black communities, libertarianism isn't even talked about. It's 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:44.240 the third largest political party in America, and that's why 0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.160 they go out of their way to try to get 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.880 libertarians off of the debate stage. Ron Paul was on 0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:55.120 there in twenty twelve, if I'm not mistaken, but there 0:30:55.800 --> 0:31:00.320 it's basically, you, as the government have no right. There 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:05.360 should not be any government intervention on free market enterprise. 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.560 You as the government should not be arresting people for 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.600 the choices that they do with their bodies. So if 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.040 I want to sell weed or if you want to 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:16.240 smoke weed, you know, because cannabis is still Schedule one federally. 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.760 But in essence, it's like, yo, we believe that the 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.520 government have should have no involvement in that. We just 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:29.320 feel like the police should come for actual crimes once called. 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.800 So we believe that if there's no victim, there's no crime. 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.239 So if usually no trolling around the neighborhood looking for 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:36.880 a guy. 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.560 Just looking and manufacturing crime. Right, there's never been a 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.479 song called like fuck the firemen because firemen show up 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:48.400 when all right, it's like, yo, we're not asking. And 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:52.840 so we just believe in that, and we have fought 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.680 very very hard to take over the areas like. 0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.200 A pure liberalism. 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:02.040 Right right, It's like it's of the same rule. 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.560 It's to leave us the f alone party, it's to 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.160 keep government small party. 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:12.320 It's the antis. It's lower taxes, lower intervention, lower opinion 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.480 by the government. Just let us do our thing, we 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:16.880 do it better leave us alone. 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.240 So for shits and giggles, So for shits, and giggles. 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.800 What's the separation of the modern liberal versus a classic liberal? 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:29.480 The definition co opted. It's like they're very smart, they go, 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.600 we need to take this rainbow. Initially, people that are 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.200 Christian of the Christian faith, the rainbow was a symbol 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:41.479 for God's promise of returning. They took that and switched. 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:46.160 They're very very sharp with that. So now what liberal 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:51.920 because of anything goes? Like you have the they have 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.080 a liberal agenda where anything goes, So that word could 0:32:55.280 --> 0:33:00.520 kind of fit. Libertarians believe and classic liberals believe, Yeah, 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.600 anything does go as long as there's you within your space. 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.640 Now what's happening is classic current model. 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.280 They're trying to change your mind. 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.160 Yeah, everything goes, but we are going to use the 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.400 government to make you accept that everything goes. And we 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.600 say everything should go for your child too. 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.120 So everything that we say goes, nothing that you say goes. 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.560 Insofar as if we disagree. 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.120 Liberal classic liberals were like, yeah, anything that you want 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.360 to do is cool if you're in a consenting adult 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.480 and the government should have no say in it. The 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.720 current definition of what's being presented as the definition of 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:40.320 liberal is we believe that anything could say goes, and 0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.400 we're going to use the weight of the state to 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.200 force you to do it by creating laws and then 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.680 using our shooters law enforcement to come enforce that if. 0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:53.400 You violate, which which kind of conflicts with the idea 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:58.360 because liberty our original like you said, a libertarian or 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.120 a liberty person will believe in the gun. 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.000 Right. And if you want to do something that I 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:09.319 think is immoral, if you're doing it if every Wednesday, bro, 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:14.200 as long as it is not violating property or the 0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.880 human's largest property, which will most impactful property, which is 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.320 someone's body, because that's the most important property that you have. 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:26.000 If you want to on your land, slather yourself up 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.759 in butter naked in your backyard every Wednesday, that don't 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.480 got a fucking thing to do with me at all. 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.239 If you get a group of people and you the 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.120 butter gang and on Wednesdays that's what y'all do, that 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.480 don't have nothing to do. Now if I think it's immoral, 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.719 the best thing that I could do is, yo, don't 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.840 put that in the public space and just ignore y'all 0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:52.480 as the butter gang. We don't care what current day 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:57.360 people do. Is and conservatives have fallen do because conservatism is, 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.080 and the Republicans were initially about detecting the rights of 0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:06.480 the smallest republic, which is the individual. Their argument was similarly, 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.879 they want to they the butter game. That's what they do. 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.680 That don't have shit to do with us. We think 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.000 it's morally reprehensible. So we're not gonna be the butter game. 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:19.080 That's it when you start. And that's the fundamental difference 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.160 between limited government, which is what every hood in America 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.479 should be, every black person not limited to but every 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.480 person under a certain socioeconomic space should one hundred percent 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.839 become libertarian. You should one hundred percent do it because 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.359 it's the only party that's gonna advocate for Yo. If 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.600 you you know what fentanyl is gonna do to your body, 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:44.040 you know that it's gonna fuck you up, just like 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.799 alcohol will fuck you up over time. I smoke cigars, 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.839 if I smoke too many of them over time, I answer, bro, like, 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:55.600 that's just the reality. Sure, the government will dictate which 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.640 one is okay or lawful and which one is unlawful 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.359 based on which one they choose to tax. That's it, 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.680 because again, the government is the mob. Libertarians is the 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.279 only political party that will say, yo, if he want 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:11.160 to sell weed and it's a voluntary exchange, and if 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.040 she want to buy the weed and she got the 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.400 money and he not forcing her to buy it, and 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.239 he not forcing her to smoke it, the government don't 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.400 have shit to do with that at all. We are 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:26.839 the only party that will openly advocate for YO. Taxation 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.760 is theft you because you're the government with the threat 0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.200 of force and sending somebody with guns to come put 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.239 you in jail because I did not want to give 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.600 you a cut of my money that I worked for. 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.279 That's what taxation is. You are taking money out of 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.399 my check that I am not okay with, with the 0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.600 threat of force or coercion. If any other body or 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.520 organization does that, they will get hit with a Rico Act. 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.560 Off top facts by. 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.600 Arians are the only political people that will say, no, 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.480 this is wrong. We should end this war on drugs. 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.240 We should end this thick ass war on terror going 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.719 into people's other countries. We got enough shit that we 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.319 need to be focused on in America. We need the 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.919 hoods are fucked up, and I get it. People say, well, 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.280 it's not as poor as certain countries, and I agree 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.120 with that. When I'm in Jamaica sometimes and I see 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.640 homes that don't got a front door on it, I'm like, bro, 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.719 you not really You got an iPhone. Bro, you're not 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.000 really poor, right, but it's still relative. We could fix 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:31.759 that quality of. 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.600 Lis that hands down. And I tried to explain this 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:38.080 to somebody. It's like, the problem is I grew up 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.000 in Compton and watched my whole life, my mom lived 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.480 in Conton, my dad lived and watch wealth is fifteen 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:49.160 minutes away. That is torture. Yeah, imagine like there's a 0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.239 head of big mac. Back to the big Mac. There's 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.520 a big mac right above your head, and you see 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.680 it every day and you just keep jumping trying to 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.000 it's going to drive you crazy. And that's why the 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.000 community where we are so Yes, if you go to 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.800 tj or Jamaica, you know, you go to Tijuana or Jamaica, 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:11.240 that's true third world poverty. But the wealth is also 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:16.359 not fifteen fucking minutes away, right, They're way over here. 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.160 You know, you go downtown. I called downtown in La 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:24.640 Got Them City because wealth and poverty is mingling together, 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.080 and you wonder why these people eventually may slap it. 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.600 It's a differentiated by a parking structure. 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:36.239 Right, it's vertical arians believe that. And that's our new 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:41.200 thing is we repurposed in BLM. It's the Black Libertarian movement. 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.120 That's what that shit stands for. I would not repurpose 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:48.239 that ship if the ownership of the BLM incorporated. I'm 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.120 not saying that Black Lives Matter as a movement in 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.160 a phrase, it's not true. But the ownership they did, 0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.399 they did silly shit with the bread like they did 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.920 like that's just I And I'm not saying it's in 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.279 an arrogant sit but I work at Black Or with 0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.600 less than three hundred thousand and less than three years, 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.160 made the black community block by more guns than almost 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.359 at any time in American history with a little bit 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.080 of elbow grease and a little a couple dollars, Right, 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.120 So we repurposing that, and we're merging the gun community 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.600 and the liberty community and making those lessons available in 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.919 its next run of classes for the next year or two, 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.279 and getting people to change their political affiliation. Politics is 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.080 how we move the world's resources. And if you're not 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.719 involved in politics, because you know, people say I don't 0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.719 get involved in politics, I'm not interested. 0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.799 In what Deebo say. You're gonna get involved, I'm gonna 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:40.680 knock your glass out. 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.719 That's it. It's it's you ain't interested in it. 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:44.960 You're already involved. 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:45.359 You're here. 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.240 Go ahead, Pete, go ahead, Pete. What were you saying? 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.520 I'll ask a quick question. Obviously, you know Philadelphia is not. 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:58.560 A real gun friendly municipality. Yeah, do you either there 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.920 or in other places? Are are or are you starting 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:05.400 to get Have you dealt with either subtle overt you 0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.719 know what, kind of like pushback from like, hey dude, 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.239 you're you're doing something that we're not particularly fond of here. 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:15.800 So two things happen when we first started in twenty sixteen. 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:21.920 They're smart. They do things like they'll ignore our work 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.200 or act like we're not doing it, which is smart. 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:28.799 The Breakfast Club does that to me, right, my man, Van, 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.239 I'm not going to put them on, you know, under 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.760 the table. But I have not been on higher learning 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.799 podcasts for similar reason. And it's not a disc. It's 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.080 not a it's not a disc that all Van had 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.440 me on TMZ on on the red Pill podcast and 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:47.720 all of that, right, But every situation, it's a smart 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:52.080 chess move. I'm not I'm influential and powerful. I'm not 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.600 as popular as it makes sense for them to give 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:59.160 me their platform, right, because if you put me on 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:03.239 a long format platform, I'm gonna I'm gonna there's there's 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.160 too many things that I'm gonna talk about that you're 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.520 gonna be like, oh no, that shit makes sense. Right, 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.680 And so the local government does the same thing. Right. 0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.400 When we first started in Philly, we did our classes 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.480 directly across the street from the licensing unit. Right. We 0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.200 would help people fill out their paperwork, we would help 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.200 them take their picture, we would put them in an 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.680 envelope and send them across the street. We sent like 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:31.200 ten thousand people over there. Right, they moved the licensing unit. 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:39.120 I gotta love the government. They so awesome because what 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.239 is I tell my homeboys, my older homies all the time, 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.480 I'm like, couzin, if we want to run the hood correctly, 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.560 all we have to do is stare at the government. 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.440 That's how you run a hood correct. 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:55.439 Yep. When when we moved, when they move, right, they 0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.759 moved it to a more industrial part of Philly, right 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.840 on the east side over there about like the Coca 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:05.080 Cola bottling all that right, and they changed the hours. 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.680 You gotta do it by appointment and it gotta be 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.000 from like nine thirty in the morning to one o'clock 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.120 in the afternoon when most people are at work. Right 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.319 when COVID happened, they was like, oh, oh, oh, it's 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:18.080 perfect time. 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.000 Manys can't even come in here. 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:21.640 Now, you can't come in here, you. 0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:22.759 Can't get an appointment there. 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.839 Why don't you just make it online? Like everything else 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.719 in the universe is online. And they tried to give 0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.000 it pushback, and then we an organization that we work with, 0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:35.680 Firearms Policy Coalition, was like, we're gonna sue you. You 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.880 cannot to deny a fundamental right to these people during 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.080 this time. If you don't make this available online, we're 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.560 gonna sue you. So then they started making it online 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.440 and the licenses to carry continue to go up. But 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.560 they we so what they do is we don't get 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.680 pushed back because to push back against me means you 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.840 got to talk about me, and better. 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.080 For them just ignore you. Yeah. 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.879 Yeah, if you're having a lowest learners scandal waiting to happen, 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:03.200 where your tax exempt you know. 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.160 I r S. Your licensing is a business is going 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:08.560 to be you know, oh. 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.040 We we we we actually gonna I'm like you like 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.880 Martin Luther King for black guns. Yeah, that's that's the model. 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.279 And did y'all know that doctor King was actually a 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:18.799 gun owner? 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.160 I would imagine, so you better have a fucking gun. 0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.480 He applied for his license to carry, they denied him. 0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:32.800 The whole might be a shot, motherfuckers, that whole fucking 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:37.440 non violence. You could get fishy, right, And so that's crazy, 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.960 so get back to wait a minute. So they threatened 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:42.520 to sue them. 0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:44.960 Yeah, they threatened to sue him, and it was like, okay, 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.040 we'll make it available online. And we just started showing 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.239 people how to do it online and record numbers of 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.800 people lining up to go get their license to carry 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:56.000 over the same thing in Philadelphia. Since we've been doing 0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.359 this work in Philly, licenses to carry have consistently, on 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:06.040 average increased over two hundred percent. And as somebody that 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.640 openly tells our students, I don't have a license to carry, 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.040 I'm not getting one, but will help you get one, 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.759 what we ask is that once we help you, we 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.600 help you, we want you to get politically active so 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.840 you can overturn the process of needing a license to 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:26.000 carry by making Pennsylvania an open carry or constitutional carry 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.879 state because it is an open carried state. But Philadelphia, 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.359 since it's the largest city in the state of Pennsylvania, 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.359 they try to make different rules for Philly that are 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:38.879 different for the state constitution. Even though that's unconstitutional. Way 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.239 see who tries it in the court, you know, But 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.680 we don't get pushed back that way. I've openly challenged 0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.880 for years now. At this point, I've challenged and Charlemagne 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:53.680 is one hundred familiar with our work, you know, And 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.719 I would love to have that sit down. It's it's needed. Charlemagne. 0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.279 And you think see is anti guns, gave like. I 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.200 don't think Charlamagne is anti guns. 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:02.520 He not. 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:04.080 He for sure got guns. 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.640 He's a gun owner. And Charlemagne, I guarantee you his 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.319 taxes don't reflect it. He's a Democrat either. I one 0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.799 hundred percent know that he knows how to handle that 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:16.040 tax code. I think that he's speaking up in certain 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.560 areas for black people, But when it comes to the 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.239 conversation around guns and having me on listen, I'm not 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.480 I'm not trying to say this in a rude way. Too, 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.960 because I gotta be careful because the Hollywood ship is 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.960 a different world. I don't want anyone to take me 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:37.120 being me, having a expressing my opinion as a direct 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:42.719 disrespect for these gentlemen, because it's I think that him 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.640 not having me on is doing a disservice. I am. 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:50.120 This is not me sounding arrogant. There is literally metrics 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.880 that proved the time that we started doing Black Guns 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:57.399 Matter and the increase in black gun ownership. It's it's 0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.279 not even it's We are cited in the unis United 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:07.760 States Supreme Court for the New York State Brewing decision 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:12.239 in New York, Black Guns Matter worked with organizations. We 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.359 are cited in the United States Supreme Court for that 0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.040 Brewing decision overturning this fake rule that in the state 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:22.120 of New York you cannot carry a firearm on your person. 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.239 That was about a year some changeable. My point in 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:30.000 saying that is we've helped black people. We express the justice, 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:35.080 we express defending our community. We express conflict resolution, de escalation, 0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:39.000 and if you use a firearm to attack people in 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.279 our communities, we are pro you going the fuck to jail. 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:47.520 Willing to go to jail. So let me ask you 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:51.799 a question on a macro level, right, Okay, so I 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.480 believe on a micro level, the government like let's say 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.040 a place like New York where the population is super 0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:03.120 over you know what I mean, is overfield like soup, overpopulated. Right, 0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:07.400 New York is overpopulated. It can't just be completely like, 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.880 we can't tax everybody. That's not why we want you 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.960 to carry guns. There has to be some level of 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.960 fear to control violence, right in some degree. 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:21.319 That's not their reason. The data over the last forty years, 0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:25.279 few decades, doctor John Lott wrote an amazing book. It's 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:29.279 called More Guns, Less Crime. He's an actual like he 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:33.080 fucked with them stats. Yeah, he'll toss his own all. Right, 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.080 this may be true, but what about this, Let's try 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.360 to disprove it. He's one of those dudes. All of 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:44.120 the areas that have more firearms owners, statistically not manipulated numbers, 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:49.280 have lower violent crime. There are statistically for decades safer 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.759 over the last thirty to forty years. As licenses to 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:57.080 carry in America nationally have increased outside of a few 0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:00.920 spikes and in certain areas, and those areas are usually 0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.480 also anti gun areas. The areas where there has been 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.760 more gun ownership in America, over the same thirty years, 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.719 thirty to forty years, violent crime has decreased. That is 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.080 the trend as licenses to carry means safe and responsible 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:20.319 firearms owners, not that you only are a safe, responsible. 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:23.600 Fire the concept of the concept of you know, everybody 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.239 got a gun, so you're gonna be careful what you 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:26.200 do to a motherfucker. 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:32.839 So robberies, breaking, breaking, the enery being ease. Great homicide 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.239 statistically down in all of those areas. So when New York, 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.200 this is the component that's left out of the conversation 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.200 that we came in on with Black Guns matter that 0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:47.040 we highlighted was the reality is after emancipation, there were 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.319 a lot of black folk that fled the South and 0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:53.040 went to these big cities. These big cities were. 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:57.800 La Chicago, New York. 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.280 All of these hell of black places. That is where 0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:05.160 the concentration of gun control went because gun control was 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.759 literally started in America having guns stop black people from 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.759 having guns. New York is there is a. 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.240 Fast Yeah, that ship is crap. I remember when fucking 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.759 tune when Dwayne I was with Baby and them at 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.719 the time, Sony Cash Money, when he got popping. No 0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:25.240 matter what he spent, he was going to fucking prison 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:32.120 for having a gun on his tour bus. 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:39.640 Not not he shot somebody, not on his person. Think 0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:46.400 about this. This person went to jail for a constitutional. 0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:52.759 Prison, prison to prison for owning a gun on a 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:56.600 tour bus. That's crazy when you really think about it. 0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:01.399 And let me ask you a question before we get 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.359 too far, like, you know, trying to make sure that 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.400 I asked all the stuff I think, would you consider 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:11.480 yourself a black nationalist at that point? A nationalist? 0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.439 I'm American as fuck. America made me this way. 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.840 But would that make you like a nationalist to a degree? 0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:21.319 Like where you believe in the values that these are 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:22.640 your constitutional rights. 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.839 I believe that because it's that's the way that its codified. 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.759 But they come from human rights, they come from natural law, 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:32.520 they come from nature. Sure, they just wrote it down 0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:33.960 in a way that I could use it, and that's 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:35.680 the founding documents of this place. 0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.200 So let's say if you went to Japan right where 0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.800 you know nobody has guns, the police don't have guns. 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:45.000 Like Japan is crazy, right, there's no guns. Would you 0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.400 feel the same need as a human to carry a 0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:48.120 weapon there. 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.960 I'm gonna get a gun in Japan. I'ma get I'm 0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.799 one hundred percent if I'm in Japan, I got a 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.640 gun if I bought and ship the three D printer 0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:03.000 first and it's there, and I took in my carry 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:07.160 on case, I took a barrel, you know, and got 0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:09.759 the AMMO somehow. Sh I'm gonna get it. I got 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:14.040 a gun in Japan. I'm I'm, I'm I'm first of all. 0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:17.839 So you really feel like it's a human right. 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:23.719 It is, it is you are born. The beauty of 0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.000 This is why I get pushbacks. This is an area 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:31.080 that I do get picked because I understand why those 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:35.359 dudes that wrote the Founding documents the way that they 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:39.479 wrote them. They came from an oppressive regime, even though they. 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.800 Did a lot of yeah yeah, hands down, came from. 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:43.879 When it came to black. 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.960 I always say that they like, how were you running 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.520 away from this place that you felt treated you bad? 0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:54.720 And then you make new versions? Right, you didn't like York, England, 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:56.279 that's why you came here. Why would you make a 0:51:56.360 --> 0:52:00.399 New York. You didn't like Hampshire, you didn't like none 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.600 of these play but you keep making you didn't like 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:06.359 jam England, but you're gonna come here and make New Jersey, right, 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.000 It's like, I'm gonna do this better. No. 0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:13.120 I like the documents themselves, the people that we don't 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.359 talk about and the media does not talk about. They 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.480 don't talk about Thomas Pain, they don't talk about George Mason, 0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.240 they don't talk about Samuel Adams, they don't talk about 0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.920 those guys that told the Founders was like, dude, we 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:30.200 cannot do the slavery shit. It's wrong. Nobody talks about 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:32.799 those dudes, and I'll be reading them type of dudes. 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:37.200 And I understand. I don't. I think cattle slavery was 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:41.680 fucked up. Sure, I also recognize that in order for 0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:44.040 them on a certain level of politic they was like, 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:47.439 look they the people that own the humans happen too. 0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.680 And it was a small section. So I understand context 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.839 and nuanced. Where I do get pushed is I use 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:58.360 those documents in America's America, because those were the ones 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:02.279 that these are y'all rules. I didn't make this ship up. 0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.600 I'm saying, I'm I'm about this liberty shit. I'm about 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.400 this freedom shit. I want to go. I do not 0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:11.879 fuck with the government. I am George Washington. If y'all 0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:15.759 believe in this, George Washington, dude cool. I believe that 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.040 the people should have the right to keep in bear arms. 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.759 And if you're in the way, George Washington and his 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:25.560 squad on Christmas Eve got in the boat took it 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:29.920 over the river to go kill their opposition for freedom. 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.200 I feel the same way. So if you want to, 0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.200 I say American, because they recognized that they had a 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.799 human right and all they did was write down those 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:42.880 natural lights. They pulled rights. They pulled that stuff from Robespierre, Bastiat, 0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:48.120 those French revolutionary and as I don't fuck with nobody 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.840 say them French motherfuckers. Get they over there tearing the 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:52.440 fucking government up right. 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.520 Now, Everyone's head off. 0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:59.359 They don't play, they don't play about that shit. 0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:02.680 And so when when if I was landed in Japan, 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.160 them saying just because y'all don't understand these human rights 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:10.320 and your government didn't create a documenting system to codify that, 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.920 that don't got shit to do with me. I stand 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.399 on what I stand on because I was born here 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.080 and I have a human right wherever I go to. 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:22.919 Have but especially here, especially here. 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.719 Yeah, and and and Bro, I'm not. I don't. I don't. 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:30.880 I didn't make enough money and serve enough of my 0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:35.239 community to be kicking it the fuck in Japan. Like 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.240 I understand people that are really really popular and famous, 0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:40.960 like Andre three thousand, he gonna go to Japan or 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:43.799 Kanye they gonna go to Japan and kind of chill out. Right. 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.040 I haven't done enough and had enough stress and succeeded 0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:49.320 enough for me to fucking take a vacation when I 0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:53.160 could find a vacation. I got Wi Fi everywhere in America. 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:57.960 If I saved three million lives, then maybe I'll think 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.480 about taking the vacation in the last still where I 0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:03.720 could have a gun or or you know what I'm saying, 0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.920 or Hawaii or you know what I mean. Like, but 0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.840 me going to some other country that's not going to 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:13.840 respect my human rights, you know, like the sister that 0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:16.080 just went over to Dubai and she just got locked 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:18.440 up for raising her voice at a dude at the 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.600 car rental spot, and they trying to figure out what 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:22.880 they about the Brittany grinder her ass, you know what 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:23.320 I'm saying. 0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:25.520 They said she did, she did a little bit more, 0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.120 they said she was, but I saw some of the 0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.240 videos where she was popping it and you and it's different. 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.120 I don't know why niggas take their ass over there 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:36.000 playing with the people mean either that's a miracle. I 0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:39.960 do not want to go to the birds from Dubai, 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.440 but I do not get to go to a well 0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:43.680 built desert man. 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:49.920 Listen, The question then becomes, okay, when I take this flight, right, okay, 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.279 I give I've given away six hundred grands to serve 0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:59.000 our communities. Right, did you succeed yet? So you're about 0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.520 to take how long the flight is to go over there? 0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:03.879 You're gonna do the same ship I would have did 0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.719 in Miami, or I would have did in Philly at 0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:10.200 a real cool, little chill pickback spot. You're gonna eat food, 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:11.080 but you. 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:11.800 And then you Dubai. 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:15.800 You can't even drink. You can't drink their dry city. 0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.560 You can't smoke. What what? What the fuck? Like? 0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.879 No, whatever money you saved on the hotel, you blew 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:24.680 already on the front end on the on the air fare. 0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:25.480 What we're talking about? 0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:29.759 And and and and then me, I'm like, low key 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.560 like a pastor. I have to be very careful as 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:36.080 a community leader. You know, I've I've tried to clean up. 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.160 You know, I'm cussing a little bit more because for 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.839 this platform, because that's how I feel. But when I'm 0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:44.120 talking on certain platforms, and even when I'm tweeting, you 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:45.920 know what I'm saying, it's certain shit, I'll reword it, 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:50.319 not because I'm trying to censor mystood, right, And so 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.520 I have to. If I take a flight, I'm flying 0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:57.440 on Emirates and it's a long flight, which means I'm 0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:00.600 gonna want to fly a very very business class. That's 0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:03.200 you're looking at a minimum of two to five grand 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:07.000 for the flight cans. Then so then then when my 0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:12.120 following goes, damn bro, I just donated two hundred dollars 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.520 to your work? Is that? Is that? Even though it 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.160 wouldn't be. But I don't want to put myself in 0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.080 a position of even questions, Damn bro. 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:22.800 Martin Luther King was the same way. I don't want 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:23.920 to confuse people. 0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.720 You know what I mean, And so I'm just not interested. 0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:29.200 So yeah, the Japanese and all of them different places. 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:33.120 We got so much work to do for my for 0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:35.320 our people, for Americans. 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.880 And I say, you gotta start your facts. 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:40.480 I'm not saying it like I say the black community 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.560 because that's where I live and that's where. 0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:44.440 But you understand what but you understand what that means. 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.360 You mean poor people across America, right, And so we 0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:52.760 just happened to be the face of poor me. And 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:54.680 Pete was talking about this and hip hop and I 0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.720 was like, there's this belief and I don't say it often, 0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.440 but there's a belief that hip hop is black. And 0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:01.800 I'm like, hip hop is street urban. We're just the 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:05.520 face of the street urban community. But we've also talked 0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:09.880 about the direct influences of Irish and Italian street life. Right, 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:14.160 That's why you have people naming themselves capone and blah 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:17.000 blah blah or you the Latino shit, you know what 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:20.400 I mean. All of these influences, Jewish, street urban cultures 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.919 all play a part in it, even if we act 0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:27.160 like we ignore their influence into street urban lifestyle. 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:31.360 And to act like you're gonna s I'm a huge 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.400 fan of fifty set. Man, I'm gonna try to work 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.760 to like do some acting, and I'm just gonna do 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.000 everything because the world is available to us, all right, 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:43.280 why not? Yeah? And I he had a mixtape run 0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.920 and then a transition. The only person that I seen 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:51.120 win and be counted out and when this big and 0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:55.200 multiple spaces is like Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.560 and like fifty, it's the only people that I'm like, damn, 0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:04.200 you know wow. And I'm saying that to say there's 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:11.680 a there's a a respect for someone that understands where 0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:15.960 they come from and also acknowledges. My first album sold 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:20.080 sixteen million records. You a damn fool if you think 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:24.280 that's only black people buying my shit, Yeah, you're out 0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:25.160 of your mind. 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.640 I just had a conversation with a god today on 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.320 Spaces good Brother, and he was, you know, he was 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:32.280 pro black, and I'm pro black. You know what I mean. 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.520 I understood it. But he started off the conversation explaining 0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:38.400 to me how the white power structure has in power 0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:41.680 Eminem and other black people don't think he's number one. 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:43.560 And he was like, Glasses, I like your music, You're 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:46.160 better than Eminem. I had to start the conversation like, 0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:48.880 first off, Nigga, I am not better than Eminem. When 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:52.880 I was actually selling PCP and shooting and low riding 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:57.720 that nigga was rapping. Yeah, then there's this weird confusion 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:01.120 that there's this separation in street urban code and it's not. 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:04.800 And I really appreciate the work you're doing because I 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:07.560 could imagine there's probably some poor all kind of people 1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:10.040 that came to you to be able to figure out 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:13.520 how to get gun license. And the term black doesn't 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:17.680 represent I don't think the term black in America has 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:25.040 ever represented skin. It's always represented how people treated you, you. 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:25.400 Know what I mean? 1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:30.000 If that makes sense, Like even the wealthiest nigga will 1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:31.520 still get treated like he's black. 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:35.240 That cop don't know what. I've never seen you in 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:37.480 this motherfucking gated community. 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:40.600 With you finna get this work. You're finna get this 1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:43.000 work and reverse my. 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:46.520 White homies from like a good a guy that I'm 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:48.720 a fan of his music from Philly and we've had 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:52.479 slight conversation here and there's O T the real buff 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:56.800 will the real music right. That shit is motherfucker. He 1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:01.800 them details is accurate. If he, as a white dude, 1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:06.160 was in certain areas, that black cop or that white 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:07.720 cop will be like, oh you must be here to 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:09.280 cop drugs, Pete, you. 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.800 A certain I've been pulled over so many times that 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.080 Long Beach Boulevard and would have. 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:20.840 Century fig They're pulling me over because they think I'm 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:23.560 buying pussy. This happened to be. I've been pulled over 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:24.560 on dinner dates. 1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:29.720 Did you feel like I would never I could imagine 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:33.240 the look in your face, knowing you about paying for pussy? 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:34.200 Jail and Miami. 1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:36.720 They pulled me over because they thought I was buying 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:37.800 pussy from a Haitian girl. 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:40.600 And that is not like you would be so like 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:43.160 that is like Pete's like our glasses. 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:48.960 No, it's And That's what I'm saying. We all when 1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:51.240 we're able to, and that's why I'm able to do 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:54.560 it kind of with having a conversation around the founders, 1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:59.480 their contradictions, patriots, adding people in that the general public 1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:03.160 witness so shit with the word patriot. I'm talking about 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:07.920 Frederick Douglass, I'm talking Nat Turner, I'm talking about John Brown, 1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:08.640 I'm talking. 1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:12.320 About most people would not really think of Nat Turner 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:14.600 as a patriot. And I agree, when you understand what 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:19.160 a patriot is, he fits exactly. But even the term 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.520 like from street urban snitch, that's not a term that 1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:26.680 started today. This is back in those days, you would 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:29.200 look at a motherfucker that's telling on the rebellion as 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:32.760 a snitch. I'm sure when when they were trying to 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:35.960 establish the colonies and people was running back telling England, 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:37.520 they called them motherfucker. 1:02:37.760 --> 1:02:39.880 If they called you a Benedict Arnold for two hundred 1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:40.360 years on. 1:02:40.440 --> 1:02:43.200 The fact, two terms for it. You was a Benedict 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:45.440 Arnold and you was if you was the person that 1:02:45.480 --> 1:02:48.040 we was concerned that you would go tell the Redcoats. 1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:49.800 They called them a loyalist. 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:57.240 Yeah, are oppressors. Oh uncle, So even though we misphrase 1:02:57.280 --> 1:03:00.480 it Uncle Tom, I was the original Uncle Tom in America, 1:03:00.480 --> 1:03:01.080 a loyalist. 1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:03.680 I hit him. When people try to hit me with 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:05.560 the Uncle Tom, I'll be like, thank. 1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:07.400 You because you don't even know who that is. 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.680 And then I hit them. Bro, you mean to call 1:03:10.800 --> 1:03:14.040 me a sambo or chiambo, that's what you mean to 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:16.240 hit me with. So it's the educational moment and these 1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:17.560 these classes, and. 1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:19.720 I still I still kick their ass because I know 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:23.000 you're trying to disrespect it that I'm gonna kick your 1:03:23.000 --> 1:03:26.400 ass with me in time for disrespecting time out here 1:03:26.480 --> 1:03:28.920 trying to disrespect me. I am like, Uncle Tom, I'm 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:31.600 gonna kick your ass for trying to disrespect time like 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:37.320 time wasn't with all the bullshit shit y'all it's all love. 1:03:37.960 --> 1:03:41.080 Yeah, but yeah man, it's just the work man. I'm 1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:42.160 gonna try my best to. 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:46.200 I'm appreciative man. You know what's funny, Like when we 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:48.560 started those celings, it was never to do an interview, 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:51.320 and this still wasn't an interview, but it was one 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:55.000 of the most refreshing pridcasts where I felt like, you know, 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:58.280 I actually understand your plight. You know what I'm saying. 1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:01.120 It makes sense to me, and I caner. I don't 1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:03.760 really back a lot of shout out to the d M. 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:05.600 I don't back all that ship, man. Some of that 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:10.000 ship just it's too built in survival and not thriving. Yeah, 1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:13.080 and that doesn't feed my hunger inside of me for 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:15.920 greatness for people that come from where we come from, 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:18.680 no matter what they look like, Like I like what 1:04:18.800 --> 1:04:21.040 you represent. It's not as much as it seems like 1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:24.040 surviving owning the gun. No, what's starting to thrive in 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:27.280 the system that you're stuck in, Like, let's thrive here. 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:30.160 Here's one of the first simplest, the second thing on 1:04:30.240 --> 1:04:33.600 the list of ship you should have accomplished. Yeah, you 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:36.480 know what I mean, which is own right? 1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:38.840 If the if, the if, the uh. 1:04:40.320 --> 1:04:43.840 Uh, what are they not the damn Commandments, the damn Amendments. 1:04:44.840 --> 1:04:48.240 They're right if the second one is gun ownership because 1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:49.280 you for sure should have. 1:04:49.320 --> 1:04:52.080 A gun, and the first one should be the right 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:54.240 to ask for it is free the speech, and the 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:55.800 second one is the right to carry it. 1:04:57.000 --> 1:04:59.680 Then when you start unpacking that that list was the 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:03.240 list that was designed by the anti federalists to make 1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:05.840 sure that like yo, this is a list of things 1:05:05.880 --> 1:05:09.040 to remind the government that they don't control that this 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:11.920 that list, the Bill of Rights is a list for 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:16.800 the people to the government, and most people don't know that. 1:05:16.920 --> 1:05:19.800 It's big. We get to shoot you, motherfuckers. Thomas Jefferson 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:25.320 said the tree of liberty on occasion, I'm paraphrasing, the 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:27.400 tree of liberty needs to be refreshed with the blood 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:32.520 of tyrants and patriots. Like that's importantly saying. So when 1:05:32.640 --> 1:05:36.680 NWA was saying fuck the police, Thomas Jefferson was saying 1:05:36.720 --> 1:05:41.080 the same shit, and so like packaging that to the 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:45.600 general public. Our demographic and removing that financial barrier to entry, 1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:48.240 where you're getting a little bit of civics, you're getting 1:05:48.240 --> 1:05:50.080 a little bit of liberty, you're getting a little bit 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:52.520 of constant resolution, you get some stop the bleeding. There, 1:05:52.520 --> 1:05:55.320 you getting the safety, and you're getting the breakdown of firearms. 1:05:56.000 --> 1:05:58.360 This is what our work has been and we got 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:01.160 a little bit over three of that thousand dollars left 1:06:01.200 --> 1:06:03.840 to raise. So like, if anybody listening to this, man, 1:06:03.920 --> 1:06:05.720 if you if you glean something from it. 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:08.040 Go fuck with it. Dog, Please with it. 1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:08.600 I like it. 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:09.560 I fuck with it. 1:06:09.680 --> 1:06:09.840 Dog. 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:13.280 I really respect that. This is one of the first 1:06:13.360 --> 1:06:15.720 movements in a long time that I respect, you know 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:18.240 what I'm saying where it's like, oh I understand. 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:18.320 And. 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:23.120 Of god, yeah, yeah, the idea does put people on 1:06:23.240 --> 1:06:27.479 the course to thriving, right, not not surviving. I'm tired 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:30.720 of these movements built on survival because if you have 1:06:30.880 --> 1:06:34.320 to beg to survive, you're not really even living, right, 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:37.320 You just existing. You're just existing. And it's like, please 1:06:37.360 --> 1:06:41.000 don't kill me, versus that shouldn't even be a thought. 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:44.160 Yeah that fucking hands up, don't shoot ship. 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:46.280 I'm just not lame as fuck. 1:06:46.520 --> 1:06:51.000 I'm just like you came into game surrenderings. I'm good, bro. 1:06:51.560 --> 1:06:54.560 I will I will. I will live for my community. 1:06:55.200 --> 1:06:57.440 I will, I will work for my community. I will 1:06:57.520 --> 1:07:00.320 serve my community. I will die for my community, and 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:03.560 I will kill for my community. The only thing that 1:07:04.360 --> 1:07:06.920 if it crosses that line is if you're putting the 1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:10.280 people in my community, if you're putting their lives in 1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:14.280 imminent threat and danger, I have to stop that threat. 1:07:14.160 --> 1:07:17.120 And all the most patriotic thing you could do. 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:19.440 You know what I'm saying. And so that's kind of 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:22.160 like where we at and just you know, thank y'all 1:07:22.200 --> 1:07:23.720 man for even man, it. 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:25.959 Was an honor, bro. Like I didn't even when Pete 1:07:26.080 --> 1:07:28.840 told me, I didn't really read it. It's people's like, yo, 1:07:28.880 --> 1:07:30.600 I want to do this. I'm like, let Pete don't. 1:07:31.000 --> 1:07:33.960 There's only so many ideas Pete, you know, talk about it, 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:35.680 and it's like, this was really a cool. 1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:37.680 That's a nice way of saying Pete ain't got shipped 1:07:37.680 --> 1:07:38.640 to say that. 1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:42.960 Pete always got something to say. That's not true. But 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:45.840 what it be is like when he talks about something, 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:48.040 I feel like he always brings something to the table 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:51.760 that's this one is super it's super polarizing because black 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:56.560 people and guns by themselves are a polarizing combination, you 1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:58.680 know what I mean, Like every historically, you know what 1:07:58.680 --> 1:08:01.000 I'm saying, whether it's the Panthers, whether it's the crips, 1:08:01.560 --> 1:08:06.120 Black people and guns are historically, you know, a polarizing topic. 1:08:06.320 --> 1:08:07.880 So I thought it was dope. 1:08:07.920 --> 1:08:08.040 Man. 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:10.760 I'm glad to listen to it. I really would encourage 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:14.120 everybody that's listening to you to really go search your 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:18.200 movement and get down man, because I think that's one 1:08:18.240 --> 1:08:20.479 of the first this is one of the first movements 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:23.800 that I've heard publicly being spoken on that I've heard 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:27.320 that is trying to help black folks thrive or people 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:31.000 that come from our communities to thrive. And that's dope. 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:35.560 Take advantage of your rights, bro, Like, don't don't not 1:08:35.720 --> 1:08:38.040 take advantage of them, I mean, take advantage of them, 1:08:38.080 --> 1:08:41.799 because that's what thriving in America is all about. Surviving 1:08:41.920 --> 1:08:44.880 is when you don't really trip off none of the rules. 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:46.519 You know, when you don't look at that, when you're 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:50.080 scared to speak up because you know you're surviving, you're 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:52.720 doing the bare minimum. When you don't own a gun, 1:08:52.760 --> 1:08:55.360 when you don't take advantage of the power that the 1:08:55.479 --> 1:08:58.600 founding fathers were in this country were trying to give you, right, 1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:01.679 I mean they wanted every scene, even when I read 1:09:01.760 --> 1:09:05.680 through them, they wanted every human being to feel powerful. 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:07.879 Right, right, honestly. 1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:11.040 Yeah, One thing I really really appreciate is like the 1:09:11.120 --> 1:09:14.280 intellectual honesty, not only like your genuineness, but you're also 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:16.799 your intellectuality. One thing that gets lost in the conversation 1:09:16.920 --> 1:09:21.280 right now, I think in America broadly speaking, is everyone goes, oh, well, 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:26.160 the nation's founders, as if it's one guy with one idea. 1:09:26.439 --> 1:09:26.639 Yeah. 1:09:26.720 --> 1:09:28.680 Fact, And it's been a. 1:09:29.280 --> 1:09:34.920 Philosophical point of conflict since pre seventeen seventy six. I 1:09:35.000 --> 1:09:37.960 mean there's different people with different ideas, and people don't 1:09:38.040 --> 1:09:40.880 rate the ideas. They look at the lowest common denominator 1:09:40.920 --> 1:09:44.720 of guy in the room and demonize him for all 1:09:44.800 --> 1:09:45.559 the other ideas. 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:46.160 And there are some. 1:09:46.320 --> 1:09:49.080 Valuable ideas that came out of those meetings and those people, 1:09:49.520 --> 1:09:51.400 and people should value the ideas. 1:09:52.120 --> 1:09:56.719 Just like gun ownership. Most ninety nine point nine percent 1:09:56.760 --> 1:09:59.040 of the people that own guns are not committing crimes. 1:10:00.720 --> 1:10:04.640 Bro, Like, I don't want to shoot nobody. 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:09.000 Who really really ninety nine point ninety nine percent of 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:12.799 the population don't want to shoot people. It just happens 1:10:12.840 --> 1:10:16.120 to be when a person gets shot, they're like, they 1:10:16.200 --> 1:10:18.280 don't never do stories on a person that owns all 1:10:18.280 --> 1:10:21.080 these guns and never shot anybody, right, you know what 1:10:21.120 --> 1:10:24.960 I mean? That would not be And it does make 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:27.200 me think like maybe they're really you know, there are 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:30.400 agendas that you know, that people are pushing for whatever reason. 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:32.400 Maybe it's about taxes. I don't know what it is, 1:10:32.479 --> 1:10:35.800 because it don't make sense to this desire to be 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:36.880 the area. 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:37.759 Of access to power. 1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:42.760 It's a mixture of things. It's let's remove they people 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:46.840 that are anti gun aren't anti gun. They because those 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:50.680 people don't say, like you said, well then get rid 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:51.800 of guns for the police too. 1:10:52.400 --> 1:10:55.160 Yeah, they never say that or their private arm security. 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:59.160 Right. They want a monopoly of force in the hands 1:10:59.200 --> 1:11:02.120 of the state. They want the general public to not 1:11:02.280 --> 1:11:05.759 have firearms, and they think that the police should have firearms. 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:06.880 So they're not anti gun. 1:11:07.000 --> 1:11:08.960 Yeah, and that's why I said, I think they want 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:12.439 my anti guns right, even when I expressed I wish 1:11:13.200 --> 1:11:15.720 I think no human beings should have guns. Yeah, I 1:11:15.800 --> 1:11:19.120 think they're totally a waste of time for most people. 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:23.760 But I think nobody's having But if one person has one, 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:26.680 I need all minds, hey, because I don't know what 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:27.559 this nigga's on too. 1:11:27.600 --> 1:11:31.400 It's the mixture of we want to have a control 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:35.920 over the people. We want to tax people that until 1:11:35.960 --> 1:11:37.840 we try, if we can't get it all the way 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:40.680 gone and only in our hands as the state, we 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:43.479 want to tax people for having it. We want to 1:11:43.880 --> 1:11:47.519 make people live in fear. We want to misinform people 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:51.679 a stressed and you know, a person in survival mode. 1:11:52.560 --> 1:11:56.839 Stressed and fear turnument to batteries in the matrix. 1:11:58.120 --> 1:12:00.800 It's easy for me to get that person. But if 1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:02.719 I go, if I go, if I'm in a space 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:06.000 where I know I want them in great shape, my 1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:09.320 cardios up, I hit the gym. I don't have to 1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:12.519 go lethal. I'm capable of going lethal. But if this 1:12:12.640 --> 1:12:15.720 goes crazy, First of all, my my situational awareness is 1:12:15.800 --> 1:12:18.280 at such that I seen that coming ahead of time, 1:12:18.320 --> 1:12:20.240 and I already won that fight because I avoided it. 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:24.360 I am a powerful being. And if if everything fails, 1:12:24.800 --> 1:12:27.040 if I fail to recognize it, and now I'll find 1:12:27.080 --> 1:12:30.200 myself in that situation, I have the skill set to 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:32.360 potentially get out. And now if I can't get out, 1:12:32.680 --> 1:12:36.200 I have the skill set to I practice Brazilian jiu jitsu. 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.200 I could box you, I could run. I am going 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:41.519 to run. If I can, I'm a run the fuck away. 1:12:41.840 --> 1:12:44.240 And if at the absolute last resort. 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:46.720 I got to kick yours, I got to put I 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:48.200 got to push your shit back, I know what I 1:12:48.240 --> 1:12:48.600 gotta do. 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:51.640 There's a certain level of power that I'm aware of 1:12:51.920 --> 1:12:53.920 anywhere that I go on this planet that I'm like, 1:12:54.560 --> 1:12:57.719 cause the firearms really just a tool. I'm the motherfucking weapon. 1:12:58.320 --> 1:13:03.360 And so like that, that thought process that damn there 1:13:03.400 --> 1:13:06.639 becomes part and parcel with your journey as a gun owner, 1:13:06.960 --> 1:13:09.640 because if you if you, if you know, I know 1:13:09.760 --> 1:13:12.800 guys that were super fat and then started getting guns 1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:14.360 and was like, yo, I got to hit the gym. 1:13:14.720 --> 1:13:16.000 It's a natural impression. 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:20.240 If the if the sheer power of it don't take 1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:24.200 you out, you realize how much power you start to 1:13:24.280 --> 1:13:25.760 have as it. But that's what I say. It's all 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:29.479 about being taught how to thrive, and and I agree, 1:13:29.520 --> 1:13:33.160 I never thought about those rights like that. Those are 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:36.560 all things to help you thrive in America and and 1:13:37.200 --> 1:13:40.439 people are taking them away to make human beings, to 1:13:40.560 --> 1:13:43.479 put human beings in survival mode. Yeah, you know what 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:46.000 I mean, without the right to without the freedom of speech, 1:13:46.080 --> 1:13:48.400 to be prosecuted based off of the things you say. 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:50.439 I guess, okay, if you don't want to like me, 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:54.519 or if this company doesn't okay, if PEPSI saying, okay, glasses, 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:56.280 I don't like your crypt, so I don't want to 1:13:56.320 --> 1:13:58.080 do business with you because you're saying you're a crypt 1:13:58.120 --> 1:14:01.519 I'm cool with that. But to be secuted by the 1:14:01.600 --> 1:14:04.240 government for saying that I'm a crypt, I mean, or 1:14:04.400 --> 1:14:08.120 anything that I want to say, to be prosecuted, it 1:14:08.360 --> 1:14:10.360 puts you into like a weak state where you have 1:14:10.439 --> 1:14:12.720 to kind of you're bracing yourself or you know. And 1:14:12.840 --> 1:14:15.679 that goes into you know, the right to bear arms, 1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:18.200 all of these things that give you power and you 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:20.519 will be okay in this country. All the things that 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:22.439 give you power and make you feel like you're going 1:14:22.560 --> 1:14:23.719 to be okay in this country. 1:14:24.479 --> 1:14:26.599 Yeah, I don't know, man, I think that's a great 1:14:26.600 --> 1:14:27.240 place to leave it. 1:14:27.680 --> 1:14:31.519 Ye, my man, I appreciate you, brother. I'm gonna make 1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:34.200 sure I put all of your socials in the comments. 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:36.240 We don't really do all of the ship on the talk, 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:38.120 but it'll be in the socials and the comments, man. 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:40.559 And I'm for sure gonna show love and and really 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.400 get down man if you need any help from me. 1:14:43.240 --> 1:14:46.960 And I'm damn dog watch would like that. Watching Contor 1:14:47.000 --> 1:14:47.479 would really. 1:14:47.479 --> 1:14:51.000 Like that in the in the late fall, Yo, Man, 1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:52.160 I'll come over to l A. 1:14:52.320 --> 1:14:54.320 Like I'll bring you to the side. I'll bring you 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:58.360 to Watching Contor where that'll be really dope and and helpful. 1:14:58.439 --> 1:14:58.559 Man. 1:14:58.560 --> 1:15:01.080 People really need to enjoy yo. 1:15:01.280 --> 1:15:04.120 Y'all know y'all had one of the one of our 1:15:04.200 --> 1:15:08.240 first classes in l A was in Remember that. Remember 1:15:08.280 --> 1:15:10.320 that gun range that Tupac was in. We had to 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:13.000 Carl Kana shirt on it. He was loading up and talking. 1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:14.960 To the end. Now I wouldn't even know. Look, it 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:15.680 was on. 1:15:15.760 --> 1:15:18.560 Elsa Gundo Boulevard. It was called Evans Training. It was 1:15:18.640 --> 1:15:21.040 a gun range. It was one of three black owned 1:15:21.080 --> 1:15:22.360 gun ranges in America. 1:15:22.760 --> 1:15:23.320 I don't know that. 1:15:23.560 --> 1:15:27.200 Yeah, we did that. It's mister mister Evans. He was retired. 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:30.160 He was an African American elder. He was a retired 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:34.000 law enforcement officer. And that was our very first class 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:38.800 in in Compton and uh then we did one another one. 1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:42.280 Uh Tommy larn from Fox came to it. That was 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:44.400 that another gun range over there. 1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:47.160 But we're gonna do it again, man, and we're gonna 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:48.080 make sure we link up. 1:15:49.479 --> 1:15:51.760 When you go, I'll go, I'll be there right man. 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:58.320 I appreciate it. Good looking out for tuning into the 1:15:58.400 --> 1:16:02.080 No Sellers Podcast. Please please do what's a favorite, Subscribe, rate, comment, 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:04.800 and share. 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