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Speaker 1: What's going on, Matt?

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Speaker 2: Oh ship, big guy, how are you doing? What are

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Speaker 2: you doing your place? Yeah, it's our studio. You live

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Speaker 2: in pizzas?

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Speaker 1: Now, yes, what they do? I got like a show,

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Speaker 1: but I was smelling a weed.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, my bad, no.

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Speaker 1: Good weed, gall more a cigar gay.

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Speaker 2: But you're making pe this is your company?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, this is kind of my company a little bit,

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Speaker 3: a little small, small part.

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Speaker 4: Now, so you went from acting to delivering pizzas like

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Speaker 4: an influencer now yeah that one.

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Speaker 1: Not an influence. I hate that word. Okay, don't call

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Speaker 1: me an influencer. So what's the spot, Matt?

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Speaker 4: So this is all the smoke studios. Man, We got

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Speaker 4: this maybe two years ago. So we shoot a few

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Speaker 4: different shows in here. Offices are upstairs.

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Speaker 2: Man. You started here trying to live the life. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a good show. I like you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I like I remember you was with Showtime, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We used to film at the same at Amlica in

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Speaker 4: Santa Monica. Yeah, back when you were doing your show.

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Speaker 3: Malchael Right, yeah, yeah, you had that spot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have We actually got some Malcola and

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Speaker 4: Malcolm females that came along with us to the new company.

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Speaker 1: They tell me you're a pizza guy.

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: What's your style of pizza?

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Speaker 4: I can do a combination minus mushrooms and onions, or

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Speaker 4: I could just do regular pepperoni.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is heavy duty pepperonek the cool. It's

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Speaker 3: a spicy spring and no one cuts the pepperoni like us.

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Speaker 3: The guy that created it, he takes pride in, you know,

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Speaker 3: cutting it individually.

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Speaker 2: Oh does he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I like to you know what I like to do.

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Speaker 3: I like to actually I like to take the pepperoni

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Speaker 2: Eat them separately. Huh yeah.

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Speaker 3: But I eat this pizza so much, you know, I

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Speaker 3: gotta come out of my ears. But like, what's your

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Speaker 3: go to slices? Oh, if you have like a go

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Speaker 3: to pizzai M.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Norcow guy. So there's a restaurant called round

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Speaker 2: Table that I like. That's probably my go too. But

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Speaker 2: this is like it it's good. Yeah, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: It's a meal. But you know what I mean, I

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Speaker 4: Stick too, Like you don't have I can't probably eat

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Speaker 4: like five or six of these.

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Speaker 2: I could probably maybe two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I gotta be high to eat that many.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you guys smoke it up here right a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm a cigar guy, okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell you a funny thing about we because

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Speaker 3: one time, these guys in Long Island were doing bongs,

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Speaker 3: So I did like a bong hit and was.

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Speaker 4: A small There was a gravity box, like a gravity bong.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, those will lay you down.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you could estimate, like what happened to me, Like

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Speaker 2: In two days like this with almost a stiff back. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't rise up. I was having a party at

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Speaker 3: I did a bong and I couldn't get back. It

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Speaker 1: I just things would happen in it, like I would

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Speaker 4: I'm like, but you know what, you haven't haven't tried though,

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Speaker 4: And with all due respect, we have different kind of weed.

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Speaker 2: Out here in California, like what or New York.

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Speaker 4: It's probably cool now, but back in the day, you're

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: You might be right.

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Speaker 2: So it's a little different out here now.

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Speaker 4: So maybe one day, not today, we don't have to

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Speaker 4: force it, but maybe one day we'll sit down and

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Speaker 4: grab a pizza and I'll introduce you to something you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, you know, I gotta watch with those cookies

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Speaker 2: No, we don't do none of that old school just joints.

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Speaker 1: I know because one time his friend gave me some kind.

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Speaker 3: Of ship, and he's like a little skinny guy and

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Speaker 3: he's like, don't worry, it's just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I need it myself.

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Speaker 3: And I eat a little bit of ship and then

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I called the sucker up. I go, what'd

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Speaker 1: goes to write it out right out out, write what out?

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Speaker 3: I go on, I'm like ready to jump out the windows.

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Speaker 4: So like me and you know that next show, I'm

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Speaker 4: a teacher how to smoke. Well, I'll come back and teacher.

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Speaker 1: That would be fun.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it a minute.

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Speaker 1: I would love that.

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Speaker 3: Man, You've had great, great career and now another career

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Speaker 3: doing this year and Steven, how much fun you haven't

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Speaker 4: I feel like to be able to play, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's been fun. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I mean the thing is was, you know, you guys

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Speaker 1: But like you guys, well.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're more I mean, i'll speak for myself,

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Speaker 4: So I was kind of someone that was very relatable

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Speaker 4: to everyone else that my journey was tough. It was,

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Speaker 4: if I can do it, me and Jack can do it,

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Speaker 2: There's hundreds, if not thousands of them now.

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Speaker 2: And like I said earlier, just enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, you were a big basketball guy. Growing

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Speaker 2: I was an athlete growing up. I played.

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Speaker 4: Every sport growing up high school. I played football, baseball, basketball, track.

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Speaker 3: Time ago, I saw you had softball years ago on

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Speaker 1: It's too late. It's like base is loaded.

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Speaker 3: People were bothering me, and I'm like, I go, I'm

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Speaker 1: I passed Spike and Spike's passing me Spike Lee, you know,

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Speaker 3: He's like and I'm like, all right, let me get

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Speaker 3: Sometimes momentum you've got to carry it into the next day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see that carry over. That's the whole

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Speaker 4: I feel like the Yankees are probably giving you some

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Speaker 3: I mean people are like, you know, you're not on

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Speaker 3: And I watched the game. I watched the nine innings.

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Speaker 3: I'm there in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: It's just like even when I watched I started out

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Speaker 1: That was my first sport.

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Speaker 4: the the ten to seven football games, like we want

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Speaker 2: Like I think that sells.

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Speaker 1: So and you had to watch, you had to wait

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Speaker 3: You know, not every game was televised all even like

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Speaker 4: I don't I enjoyed my run. Unfortunately, I coach my

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Speaker 4: The end of my crew is the beginning of social media.

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Speaker 4: Majority of my career, what the media says was the gospel,

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Speaker 4: had fun with ESPN and Fox and when they you know,

444
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,919
Speaker 4: was able to create all the smoke and kind of

445
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,199
Speaker 4: change the narrative and how people tell their stories and

446
00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,240
Speaker 4: listen to their stories and who they listened to them from.

447
00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was something I never thought would happen,

448
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,119
Speaker 4: but it. You know, it's a tremendous blessing. You a

449
00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,080
Speaker 4: fight fan, Yeah, I like, I like watching boxing and MMA,

450
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,879
Speaker 4: but I can't lie. I don't watch I'm not glued

451
00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,120
Speaker 4: to the every fight. I watched the big fights. Yeah,

452
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,440
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean I was someone who was, you know,

453
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,399
Speaker 4: known to swing or slap a.

454
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Speaker 2: Few people in my day.

455
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,280
Speaker 4: So I definitely like boxing and MMA because you.

456
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,200
Speaker 1: Were known as a little bit of an enforcer, right.

457
00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you can call it that.

458
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,000
Speaker 4: But mine was just more like I came from a

459
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,040
Speaker 4: background where my dad. You know, if your brother and

460
00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 4: sister fight, don't care if they win, you better be involved.

461
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,720
Speaker 4: I'm gona whoop your ass. So everyone I looked at

462
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,440
Speaker 4: everyone as my teammates, as family, right, So it wasn't

463
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Speaker 4: necessarily a force. It was almost kind of even if

464
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 4: I was younger, it was almost on some big brother

465
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Speaker 4: shit like you for me, You with him, you're gonna

466
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 4: for me, you know what I mean. So it's just

467
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 4: like it was kind of like all all or one

468
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,960
Speaker 4: or one for all. So yeah, I did mix it up.

469
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 4: You know a few times in my career.

470
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Speaker 1: Did you have any fights in the NBA?

471
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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say fights.

472
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Speaker 4: We've had some pushing matches because it cost I wish

473
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Speaker 4: sometimes I wish I played back in the eighties where

474
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,320
Speaker 4: it would you know, cost you five thousand if you swung.

475
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Speaker 4: But you know, I was getting suspended two or three

476
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Speaker 4: games for pushing people and it would cost me a

477
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Speaker 4: couple hundred thousand.

478
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Speaker 2: So it's just like, you know, it's swinging. Is it

479
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 2: worth the swing? Right?

480
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 4: You know, maybe if you can catch them. I waited

481
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 4: for a couple guys after the game so that it

482
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Speaker 4: wasn't on the court, but it didn't materialize in anything.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, right, shame you some money?

484
00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? About acting? You have acting before?

485
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 2: I've known, damios, I want to act. I think it'd

486
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 2: be cool. Uh.

487
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 4: You know, I've taken some acting classes before. So if

488
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,199
Speaker 4: you got something for me, let me know.

489
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just did a new movie, you just did

490
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 2: a a a project, right.

491
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a I did a I s I.

492
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Speaker 1: I called it a cameo.

493
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Speaker 3: It was like one sequence in The Highest the Lowest

494
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 3: with Denzel Yeah Washington and uh. I did my first

495
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,639
Speaker 3: movie with him, my first real movie, More by the Blue.

496
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Speaker 3: So it's kind of funny fast.

497
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Speaker 2: Forward, like you how many years apart with that?

498
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're going back like over thirty years.

499
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

500
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Speaker 3: I remember being on screen with him, and I was like,

501
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 3: I was such a nervous wreck just to be on screen.

502
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know like how great he.

503
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Speaker 3: Was, which was kind of good. I kept telling my brother,

504
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 3: cause we played brothers in it. I said, this guy's great.

505
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 1: He goes oh, yeah, he's He's becoming a big s.

506
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Speaker 1: It was like it was better.

507
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Speaker 3: I didn't know right and then like I was out

508
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 3: of my light, you know, like you have these lights,

509
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 3: and Denzel told me, he goes hey, move over this

510
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 3: way or something like that. So my brother goes hey.

511
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,120
Speaker 3: Then I was looking out for you, so.

512
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Speaker 2: You get a chance to talk to him. I did

513
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: a little bit.

514
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Speaker 3: I did not the first day, like the first day,

515
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 3: like I h I said, I could see he was

516
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: in the in the zone. I was playing a Yankee

517
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 3: fan on the subway, so I was kind of like

518
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 3: locked in. And when you see somebody like that, you know,

519
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 3: you could even attest to that. When somebody is great

520
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 3: on the quarter on screen, it helps you kind of

521
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 3: rise up. You gotta kind of rise you gotta bring

522
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: your a game. So I was like locked in and

523
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 3: I saw him on the subway. I'm like, oh, dude,

524
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 3: he's here. And that kind of pumped me up, you know.

525
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 3: So the next day he's looking at me and he

526
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 3: like gives me a little fist pump. Then he goes

527
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 3: starts doing my lines in the movie seven times seven,

528
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 3: eight times eight.

529
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Speaker 1: You remember that? Huh?

530
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Speaker 3: He was, yeah, man, it was that was funny ship.

531
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: And then we started talking a little bit and cool.

532
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: Then we're talking sports on the train and him and Spike,

533
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 3: and I guess he didn't know I was a baseball savan.

534
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 3: He was like, oh, Nick knows his ship. He said,

535
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: damn straight, I do. I said, you know, I started

536
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: brought up the a b ass.

537
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Speaker 1: I saw Doctor J with an Afro vintage Doctor J.

538
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: You know, he was like, you did?

539
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, man, I saw the last game in

540
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: the AB I remember against the Denver Nuggets at the

541
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Speaker 3: Nassau Coliseum.

542
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 2: What year.

543
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: Was that like nineteen seventy six when the NBA, you know,

544
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: they wanted Doctor j Oh they needed it, they needed it,

545
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: and that was part of like the allure and the

546
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: merger of grabbing those ABA teams. Well, that was a

547
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: lot of great players in the ABA.

548
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Speaker 4: We interviewed George Gervin and obviously they said, obviously what

549
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 4: Magic and Bird did in the eighties was important to

550
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: the game. It kind of made it name. But they

551
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 4: feel like the ABA saved at the NBA. Yeah, with

552
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 4: the trends, with the trends, uh.

553
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 3: Because they brought that, they brought that flat, they brought

554
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: that color, that that basketball was beautiful that it was decided.

555
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 4: It was just a bunch of black mouffs out there

556
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 4: flying around Duncan. That's what it was, Huh.

557
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: But it was fun. The teams were fun, the colors

558
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: were fun.

559
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: It was the one renegade league that really had some

560
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: like it had something like you know, they've tried it

561
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: with all other ship but it's never sort of like lasting.

562
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: So the NBA saw that and being the.

563
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: Mafia that they are, they can crush the A B

564
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: A because you know, you can't compete with the power

565
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: of the NBA, but the ABA was fucking fun.

566
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Speaker 4: Talent for talent, the ABA probably had more talent.

567
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you think of the guys that had

568
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: no artist, Gilmour, Dan eSeL, David Thompson, Marvin Bonds. This

569
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: guy named Marvin Bond. He was a wild guy. Played

570
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 3: with a guy that I loved. He was Italian Ernie d. Gregorio.

571
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: He was a great point guard with the Buffalo Braves.

572
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: I mean there was one team that didn't come in

573
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Speaker 3: that it was a good team. I never understood the

574
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Speaker 3: Kentucky Colonels.

575
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Speaker 2: They never remember hearing about them.

576
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: What about the the Flint Tropics.

577
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Flint trop indeed, I mean the Saint Louis Spirits.

578
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: That was that was a team that What was the

579
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: deal that they made? Like they're still getting paid.

580
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Speaker 1: Or some ship?

581
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah up until recently, the Brothers, right, yeah, yeah,

582
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: something about.

583
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Speaker 2: The NBA was.

584
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Speaker 3: I love these guys when they make those deals. Bobby

585
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: boneir like he's getting paid for twenty five years, man,

586
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: Why couldn't I get a fucking deal like that where

587
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: I could be paid for like twenty five.

588
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 4: Tonne stretched his money out right with the Dodgers, they

589
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: stretched I don't know if it's for that long, but

590
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: they stretched the money out too.

591
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pulling the Martins and move smart. Shit.

592
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 4: What do you think about the way the Dodgers move

593
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: and they just go similar to the Yankees used to move.

594
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: If they wanted you, they're gonna go get you, no

595
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: matter what the situation.

596
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Speaker 3: You know what they're doing because they got a good nucleus,

597
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 3: they got a good foundation, and from that foundation they

598
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: just keep adding for the pieces. So then they're not

599
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: fooling around. They're going for the gusto.

600
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Speaker 4: They just picked up what's his name, Uh, Kyle Tucker?

601
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, another guy. I mean I heard they gave

602
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: him like.

603
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: A sixty million signing, Like how do you do that?

604
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: And then they'll pay them one million a year. I

605
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 3: don't know they're stretching the rules.

606
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: Or creating them, but they're winning.

607
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're winning, and they're becoming like I mean, you know,

608
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: the Dodgers are from you know, they was like the

609
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Speaker 3: Little Brother.

610
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so would you say it's almost like if

611
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 4: the Clippers moved away and came back and became the

612
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: Dodgers type situation, that's what it is. Yankees would be

613
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: the Lakers, so to speak, kind of kind of.

614
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: But the thing the difference is the Dodgers they always

615
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: had that kind of magic, even from Brooklyn from what

616
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: I've heard, like Bropers, there was.

617
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: Just the Clippers are still kind of.

618
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 4: Like the Like the Mets, they've never found that.

619
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Speaker 1: And then like the little brother, I mean, the Mets

620
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: still have their their charm. Don't forget.

621
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Speaker 3: Like the Mets are like the bastard child of the

622
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Speaker 3: Dodgers and the Giants.

623
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Speaker 1: They were three baseball teams.

624
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: Those teams left New York, right, the Giants and the Dodgers,

625
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: and they created like a child. That child that wedlock

626
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 3: was the fucking Mets. They took all their colors. You

627
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: look at them, the blue, the orange, the logo, that

628
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: NY logo.

629
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Speaker 1: That's the New York Giants logo.

630
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, the Mets logo.

631
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Yankee logo. That's the greatest logo in

632
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: the history of sports. I mean, like, you go anywhere,

633
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: you'll find a Yankee hat somewhere someplace.

634
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm I don't care. The Dodgers are the Dodgers, but.

635
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: The Yankees are still like you know the Yankees. You know,

636
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: the Yankees show up the stadium is fun. It's a

637
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: different come out, fake fans come out, I know, right.

638
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 4: Women, No matter what I mean being a Yankee, I

639
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 4: think being a laker and what's the equivalentcy of are

640
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: in football?

641
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: Cowboy? Right?

642
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: Like no matter there can be teams that have better

643
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: runs or better but like when you think those particular sports,

644
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 4: tho as a team, those are America's teams so to.

645
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: Speak, right, You'll never you'll never live that down.

646
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: You know, the Celtics were.

647
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: Pretty That's a pretty high standard to live to every

648
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 4: year though, because like anything less than the championship is us.

649
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

650
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but you know what else is there?

651
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: You play to win?

652
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you don't play the coming second place, third place.

653
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's a bunch of bullshit. You know. You

654
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: see like they're.

655
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: Giving trophies out and I'm like, you know, everybody's out

656
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: to win.

657
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: This isn't like you to lose.

658
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: You know, like you're doing a movie, you're not you're

659
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: trying to work together. We're working together on a movie.

660
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: We're not trying to I'll do each other. But with sports,

661
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: it's about bottom linings.

662
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: Did you win?

663
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: That's why, Like Derek Gittas everybody loved him because he.

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Speaker 1: Was all about, hey, I want more rings, right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: You got a ring, right, you got a ring winners.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like that, my man. Listen, thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate it. Can I take some of these

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Speaker 4: pizzas home.

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Speaker 2: This is for you.

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Speaker 1: It's good on the reheat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm e. If you guys want it, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: deliver someone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's let's figure out something we could really do. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, next time, a small weed with you, Right, but

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Speaker 3: just don't get me sick.

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Speaker 1: Just get me high in horny.

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Speaker 2: Believe the horny part of someone else