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Speaker 3: Good morning, Sweel and welcome to the Nodong's podcast on

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Speaker 3: the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, October seventeenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: you fire up yesterday's Eastern Conference over under Podcasts, where

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Speaker 3: Trey and I went through all fifteen Eastern Conference team,

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Speaker 3: looked at their overwind totals and locked in a few

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Speaker 3: of our favorite bets.

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Speaker 2: You're gretting anything from yesterday, every single one nice all of.

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Speaker 3: Today's win totals just like yesterday by way of bet MGM.

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Speaker 3: Before we get into it, Hollinger had an article up

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Speaker 3: on The Athletic Go to the Athletic dot com slash

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Speaker 3: nod Downes, get yourself a subscription. He made a good

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Speaker 3: point about the Western Conference. He said, quote, there are

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Speaker 3: at least eleven teams legitimately aspiring to make the playoffs

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Speaker 3: this year. Three of them are gonna end up in

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Speaker 3: the draft lottery, and even the bottom looked stronger. Last season.

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Speaker 3: Houston and San Antonio both lost sixty games, but the

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Speaker 3: Rockets completely overhauled their roster and the Spurs got Wemby.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of truth to that, because I looked

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Speaker 3: at the lines here. There are nine teams in the

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Speaker 3: Western Conference that have over underlines between forty four and

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Speaker 3: That's a four win window. That's crazy. Nine of the

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Speaker 3: fifteen teams are all bunched up like that, which I

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Speaker 3: think is gonna make this maybe the more difficult conference

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Speaker 2: We were doing the Eastern Conference yesterday and at one

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Speaker 2: point I was in my brainstorm, Sash, I was thinking,

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Speaker 2: I gotta get some unders in here. I'm being a

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Speaker 2: Because every team is competing. I guess you would maybe

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Speaker 2: couple of seasons. But even they have like NBA veteran

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Speaker 2: the Western Conference, it's gonna be tough. A four win

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Speaker 2: window we call win Butler, that's right, it's the four

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Speaker 3: Okay, We're gonna go through every team and at the

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Speaker 3: here in the West. But let's start with the Pacific Division.

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Speaker 3: JD all over the graphics once again. Golden State forty

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Speaker 3: eight and a half wins, the Clippers forty six and

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Speaker 2: This is a sick division.

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Speaker 3: These are all similar lines. The Golden State Warriors last

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Speaker 2: specifically the Golden State Warriors for almost ten seasons. The

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Chris Paul plays a pretty specific style of basketball.

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Speaker 2: and it always seems to work when he joins with

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Speaker 3: So forty eight and a half do you think bet

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Speaker 3: MGM slash Vegas sort of have this line in the

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Speaker 3: right spot. Did you struggle with this one? And ultimately

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Speaker 2: I didn't struggle with this one too much. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They're also probably gonna continue to focus on I

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Speaker 3: they do have some still in Kaminga who has looked

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a vital part of their playoff success.

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Speaker 3: I need that one or both of those guys to

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Speaker 3: like the game he's talking too. He's talking like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I want to be an all Star game. I want

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Speaker 3: to be all defensive minded guy. And in the running

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Speaker 3: playing for Team Canada in Paris, so that's great stuff

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Speaker 3: to hear. But yeah, this this feels like a perfect line.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm like, I'm like, forty six, forty seven,

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Speaker 3: forty eight. Could they win forty to fifty? Of course

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Speaker 3: how many combined games will they play and will they

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Speaker 3: out of a play in situation, which is you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, all these teams with aspirations to go far,

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Speaker 3: you don't want to be in that. Even if we

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Speaker 3: the fine you don't want to be in that type

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Speaker 3: of heat wave. But yeah, it's very risky, So good

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Speaker 2: Under Yeah, I said, I think there's only going to

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the actual personnel and the talent,

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Speaker 2: the sons of things are perfect, they're winning fifty plus games,

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Speaker 2: the Pelicans. There are so many teams. I think that

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move to the Los Angeles Clippers forty

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Speaker 3: six and a half wins. Besides bringing Russell Westbrook back

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Speaker 3: being teammates here. Really, they're ninety six and forty six

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Speaker 3: when they play, they're very very good. They're eighty six

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Speaker 3: Sean Pewell at NBA dot Com NBA dot Com he

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Speaker 3: labeled them the brittle brothers. I've never heard that. I've

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Speaker 2: I was like, damn, Sean Bell believe it.

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Speaker 3: But it is difficult to obviously get a read on

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Speaker 3: totals have been higher over previous years. Yep, and this

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Speaker 3: So maybe that has you leaning over.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think, Well, forty four

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Speaker 2: Brittle Brothers plague. That's an amazing nickname. Fifty six games

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Speaker 2: They got two of everything. They got two star wings

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Speaker 2: They got two really wild point guards in Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 2: Get on the arc boys and a clipper. You know what,

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Speaker 3: Did you see their leaked new jerseys too? Clips the

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Speaker 2: I did, the little basketball on the eye. It's like

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Speaker 3: just under that. One's a tough one. That is a toughy, toughy,

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Speaker 2: that's part of the heat wave. They will be better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I am going to lean towards a

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Speaker 3: even that magical fifty could be in play with this team. Now, look, Lebron,

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Speaker 3: he's going to miss games, as he should. What's he

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Speaker 3: sixty seven games, forty five games, fifty six games and

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Speaker 2: I mean, I assume Lebron has been All NBA since

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about this until right

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't make it as rookie year. That makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Wow?

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Speaker 3: That's something to watch here. Okay like that? Okay, talking

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Speaker 3: this out, I'm even more confident with the over. Lebron's

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Speaker 3: he's healthy. There's a lot of talk on the idea

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Speaker 2: What'd you think of Darvin ham saying he wants Anthony

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Speaker 2: Get inside, buddy, I mean, well, well, well, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: We get a window where he could shoot threes. There

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Speaker 3: They stumbled in twenty twenty two again last season despite

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Speaker 3: They brought in defensive minded Frank Vogel to lead this

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Speaker 3: overhauled roster. And what I mean overhauled. Wow, Bradley Bel's in,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kadie's like a long tenured player at this point.

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Speaker 2: This is a fifty plus win team for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: thirty seven last year, but it's like throw out the

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Speaker 2: They know that they're gonna need a lot of depth

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm betting on health here and I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: The majority of the games.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna easily go over fifty one and

431
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Speaker 3: a half. I actually I couldn't. I was sort of

432
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 3: shocked how low this was actually, but I think speaks

433
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Speaker 3: to how talented and top heavy they are and how

434
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Speaker 3: loaded the West is. But I like that one all right.

435
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 3: Final team in the Pacific Division, the Sacramento Kings forty

436
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Speaker 3: four and a half wins. They won forty eight games,

437
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Speaker 3: last year they made the playoffs for the first time

438
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: in seventeen seasons. They had the beam being lit forty

439
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Speaker 3: eight times at least in the regular season, sometimes in

440
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. They had two All NBA players, They had

441
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Speaker 3: the coach of the Year. They added some more guys

442
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Speaker 3: to this squad, but Zenkoff is the big name the

443
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: euro League MVP six nine sharpshooter, so pairing him with

444
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 3: Monk and Herder to hopefully, you know, keep the three

445
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 3: pointers reigning. They got a bar and still they got Mitchell,

446
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: Still Trey Lyles in the rotation. They had a JaVale

447
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: McGee and christ Warte. Okay, they probably won't mean much,

448
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 3: but is this King and Murray is probably gonna break

449
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 3: out more? Is this disrespectful to the sacrament of Kings

450
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Speaker 3: forty four and a half wins? Because I feel like

451
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: it is disrespectful. Yeah, no, this is not disrespectful to

452
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Speaker 3: the Kings. This is a King's team who has had

453
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Speaker 3: one good season. So them getting predicted to have forty

454
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Speaker 3: five wins after the previous two decades, I think.

455
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Speaker 2: Is still respectful.

456
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Speaker 3: Okay, do you like the over Yeah?

457
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Speaker 2: I like the over there you go, Yeah, they won

458
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Speaker 2: forty eight games last year. They brought everybody back. I

459
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Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna be as good as they were

460
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Speaker 2: last season, just because it's unlikely that they have two

461
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 2: All NBA players and the Coach of the Year. They

462
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Speaker 2: probably don't finish as the third seed in the Western Conference.

463
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: That would be a surprise once again. But they're betting

464
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Speaker 2: on continuity. They had great health last season, but they're

465
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Speaker 2: also a pretty young team. Young guys tend to stay healthier.

466
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Speaker 2: I think they are I prove it in the playoffs team.

467
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Speaker 2: But I think this is an easy over. They are

468
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Speaker 2: definitely not the worst team in this division, but they're

469
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Speaker 2: in a tough division. They gotta play all these other

470
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Speaker 2: teams four times, which, yeah, is why the number is

471
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Speaker 2: probably so low.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. I'm with you. I'm going over. Forty

473
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Speaker 3: four and a half feels way too low. I think

474
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Speaker 3: everybody keeps bringing up this idea. Well, look how healthy

475
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Speaker 3: they were last year. They were one of the healthiest

476
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Speaker 3: teams in the league, and that was true. Though, you know,

477
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: everyone seems to forget Sabonis did basically break his damn

478
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Speaker 3: hand or his finger or whatever it was. His thumb

479
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: continued to play through it the ox that he is.

480
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: So I get that. You're like, well, you know, there

481
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Speaker 3: could be a bad injury to one of their key

482
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: players and that suddenly changes the dynamic of the team. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 3: but they are a young team. It's I would have

484
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Speaker 3: a lot less confidence in some of these other teams

485
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Speaker 3: we've just talked about, obviously, the Clippers, the Lakers with

486
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 3: Lebron and Ad, the Warriors with the age on that team.

487
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Speaker 3: I have a lot less confident in those guys staying

488
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Speaker 3: healthy than I would this fairly young Kings team. So

489
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Speaker 3: I don't see like why it's like out of the

490
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Speaker 3: realm of possible that they do not run back a

491
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Speaker 3: fairly healthy season. Again, I know people can twist ankles

492
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: and hurt knees and like just weird fluke accidents, but

493
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Speaker 3: I'm going over on this.

494
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Speaker 2: I don't factor in that kind of stuff. Seat's not

495
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: freak accidents. Like a guy like like Kawhi Leonard and

496
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Speaker 2: Paul George. That's a different case than Demonta Sabonis and

497
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: dearon Fox. They could easily tear their acl and start

498
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: being guys that have knee problems going throughout their career.

499
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Speaker 2: But they're not those guys yet, so I don't I mean, yeah,

500
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: that could happen, but I'm an optimist at heart, skeets,

501
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: so I ain't worried about that kind of stuff. They're

502
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 2: gonna be unstoppable on offense once again. You know, they

503
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: were the best offense in the league last season. Maybe

504
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: they're not the best offense in the league this season

505
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Speaker 2: because the Bucks look like they're gonna be tough. The

506
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Speaker 2: Celtics are gonna be really tough. We know the Nuggets

507
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: are gonna be able to score points as well. So exactly,

508
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: they could finish fifth and still, you know, I'll have

509
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: a better offense than they had the previous season. But yeah,

510
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: I think this Kings is an easy over to me.

511
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Speaker 3: All right, let's hear from everybody in the stream. Team.

512
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Speaker 3: You guys are already chiming in for every team.

513
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Speaker 2: Go through.

514
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Speaker 3: Love to see that podcast listeners, tweet at us at

515
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Speaker 3: No Dunk Sinc. Or everybody jump over to YouTube and

516
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Speaker 3: leave your thoughts in the comments. We're gonna take our

517
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Speaker 3: first break and when we come back, it's the Northwest Division.

518
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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere, all right, Still here in the classic factory,

519
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Speaker 3: smash that like button make sure you subscribe as we

520
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Speaker 3: get ready for the NBA season one week today. Real basketball, baby,

521
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Speaker 3: right around the corner, you pumped.

522
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Speaker 2: I'm very excited, so am I Basketball is my favorite sport.

523
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Speaker 3: Good m hm. That's why you get paid it to

524
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Speaker 3: a podcast about it. That's right, Uh, Northwest Division, let's

525
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Speaker 3: get into it here. It is the Joker's ready.

526
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Speaker 2: He looks fired up.

527
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Speaker 3: Tiger Woods fist pumped there, Nuggets fifty two and a half,

528
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Speaker 3: Wolves forty four and a half, Thunder forty four and

529
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Speaker 3: a half, Blazers twenty eight and a half, and the

530
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Speaker 3: Jazz thirty five and a half. Denver Nuggets fifty two

531
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Speaker 3: and a half, Jamal Jokic leading the way. They looked

532
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 3: primed again to battle for a championship. Why wouldn't they be?

533
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: That said, their deaths took a little bit of a hit, right.

534
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: They lost two guys who ranked sixth and seventh on

535
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Speaker 3: the team in total playoff minutes. I'm talking about Bruce

536
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: Brown who left for Indiana. Jeff Green, he left for Houston.

537
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: Got some decent money there. So Denver turned to the

538
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: draft to get guys that they thought they could that

539
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: are ready to play. I should say They acquired college

540
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: junior wing Julian Strather, who looks great in preseason guys

541
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: a bucket right now, and then they got two seniors,

542
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: Jill and Pickett, and then Hunter Tyson. They also brought

543
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: in Justin Holiday for some wing minutes possibly so the

544
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: Nuggets fifty two and a half. I believe it is

545
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Speaker 3: the highest here in the Western Conference. That's right, just

546
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: a little bit higher than the Suns that we talked

547
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Speaker 3: about at fifty one and a half. What do you

548
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Speaker 3: do with this team?

549
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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to be on the minority in

550
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: this one's skeets. I see ninety one percent of the tickets,

551
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: ninety eight percent of the handle or hitting the under

552
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: for the Denver Knights. Not me, No, I think it's

553
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: an over here. They finished fifty three and twenty nine

554
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: last season. That includes going nine to ten in the

555
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: months of March and April. They basically locked up the

556
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: number one seed in the Western Conference, shut it down

557
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 2: and went into chill mode, got healthy for the playoffs,

558
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: and allowed Nikoleyokich to bow out of the MVP race

559
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: during the last half of the season. I don't think

560
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: they'll have that luxury this season. The Western Conference is

561
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: going to be really competitive. I think teams are going

562
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: to be vying for the top spot because nobody wants

563
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: to have to go into Denver and try to win

564
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: on the road. Meanwhile, they have a great home court advantage,

565
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 2: so yeah, they're relying on youth this season. They definitely

566
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: lost some veteranship, which I think as another part of

567
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Speaker 2: the reason that Justin Holliday comes to town. Reggie Jackson

568
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 2: I think has to have a better season this year

569
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Speaker 2: than he did for the Clippers, and then with the

570
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: Nuggets just because they need somebody else to be handling

571
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: the ball off the bench with the loss of Bruce Brown,

572
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: but basically the last for the last five seasons, Jamal

573
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: Murray has been healthy, and when he's been healthy, the

574
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 2: Nuggets winned a fifty three win pace. So as long

575
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Speaker 2: as he stays on the court alongside Jokich, this team

576
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Speaker 2: is going to pile up wins.

577
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Speaker 3: Saw Schumann point out in one of his articles on

578
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: NBA dot Com the Nuggets were the one seed in

579
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Speaker 3: the West despite having the league's twenty ninth rank bench

580
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: last season, but after a long playoff run, Shoe notes

581
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: it would be nice if they could keep their starters

582
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: a little more fresh. So you know Christian Brown is

583
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: going to get an opportunity. But who are those rotation

584
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: pieces seven through ten? You slipped in some names? You know,

585
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson should be Peyton Watson. They're very high on

586
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: Calvin Booth. Is at least are you know you brought

587
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: the vibes calculation yesterday? I'm curious if if you had

588
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Speaker 3: to do any last minute tinkering with your ViBe's valuation

589
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: with the Nuggets after hearing these Kelvin Booth comments where

590
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: and I'm paraphrasing here, he's sort of shipped on Michael

591
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: Porter Junior in saying, well, we couldn't have two sort

592
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: of boneheaded me first guys in Bones Hiland and Michael

593
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: Porter Junior. So he shipped out Bones, but we still

594
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: got one. But it's okay, we won a championship. Is

595
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: that rock the boat at all to you in your

596
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: ViBe's calculation? Kelvin Booth just being too damn real the

597
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: v for vibes. No, I'm not factoring it in. Okay,

598
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: he's not on the team, he's the GM.

599
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. Okay, that's fine.

600
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Speaker 3: The only thing harder than winning a title in the

601
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: NBA is repeating the next season, so I'm excited to

602
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: see how they tackle it, because like the way I

603
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: look at this championship teams, they generally faced three challenges

604
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: the following season. One inflated egos. I don't think that's

605
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: gonna be a concern here because you're you're following after

606
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: your superstar. Jokic doesn't even want to be here. I

607
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: was just thinking of horses all day long, So I

608
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: don't see that being a concern. Maybe maybe with a

609
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: guy like Michael Portergut, I possibly, but I don't even

610
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: see it there. Potential fatigue. Sure, that's why we're talking

611
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: about this fifty two and a half win line. You

612
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: said it. They shut it down at the end of

613
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: last year. That could happen again. They could get up

614
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: to a big lead, have a nice gap, and then

615
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: you know it worked last year, Why wouldn't we do

616
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 3: the same thing. And maybe that ends in, you know whatever,

617
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Speaker 3: fifty one to fifty two wins. And then the other

618
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: thing is filling holes, rotation spots left by guys who

619
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Speaker 3: who went and got a bank, they cashed in on

620
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: their great play on a championship team. Again, we're talking

621
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Speaker 3: about Brown and Jeff Green, and they need to find

622
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: those guys. But there they think they have them. I

623
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Speaker 3: think in some of these guys in Strathor and Watson

624
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: and Brown and who else and who knows? Who else?

625
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: You know who hits litt.

626
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Speaker 2: Who else? Do you know exactly? It doesn't matter. Man,

627
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: Jeff Green was he was their seventh man. He was

628
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: great in the playoffs when his veteranship showed up. He

629
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: also averaged eight points a game and shot twenty eight

630
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 2: percent from three last year. These are regular season win totals.

631
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Speaker 2: Things are different on the playoffs, and then Nuggets could

632
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: easily find a random vet come February. So yeah, that'll

633
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: be a question for another time. But I think they're

634
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 2: gonna do okay with these collection of young guys and

635
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of old these hanging out as well.

636
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Speaker 3: All right, I'm leaning over just over Minnesota Timberwolves forty

637
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Speaker 3: four and a half. They are running back this year

638
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: with largely the same roster. I mean, Shake Milton is

639
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: now here, Troy Brown Junior, I guess Tory and Prince

640
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: is out. But they are hoping better health with Karl

641
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: Anthony Towns that this team can finish higher in the West.

642
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: The line is only forty four and a half where

643
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Speaker 3: you lean in with this one.

644
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: This one was tough for me because I use two

645
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: factor authentication with regards to my over under picks skeets.

646
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: The night before I go through and I just try

647
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: and catch a feeling on a team. If I think

648
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: they're gonna go over under, you know. Yeah, the next

649
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: morning I look at it in the lighted day and say,

650
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: what was I cooking? And I don't know about these

651
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves. I went over last night. I was like,

652
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is good. They're gonna get more games out

653
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: of Karl Anthony Towns this season, a second year with

654
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: a real training camp with Rudy Gobert. They're gonna be

655
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: able to figure things out. But then you're also like,

656
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: they won forty two games last season, Anthony Edwards already

657
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: averaged twenty five a game. They had Mike Conley for

658
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: twenty four games. They were mid twelve and twelve when

659
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns played fifteen and fourteen. Every stat you

660
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: look at for them, they're finishing right in the middle.

661
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I didn't really know.

662
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: What to do with them. I'm going over. I'm going

663
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: just a tiny bit over.

664
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going over.

665
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling good about it, and I'm honestly you

666
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: could easily talk me out of it in the next

667
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: three minutes.

668
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: You got three players making max money. You better be

669
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: better than forty two and forty Yes, I mean you

670
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: better be better than you know, forty four wins. Were saying

671
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: you gotta be you would open your around the fifty

672
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: win mark with three max contracts in in Edwards, in

673
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: Town's and go bear. But like I'm with you, this

674
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: is a tough one because you gotta be like a

675
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: lot of things sort of gotta go right here. Yeah,

676
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 3: for them to be flirting with the forty five to

677
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: fifty win window, first off, we gotta we gotta figure

678
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: out really if Cat and Gobert do work and mesh

679
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: well together. Also, there is nasried they got another big

680
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: that they paid, there was an extension. There's that Anthony

681
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: Edwards is he going to another level? Is he going

682
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: to be an all NBA guy? You know, fresh off

683
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: the run with tm USA where he took them to

684
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: an incredible fourth place finish. I'm not so sure. I

685
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: think he Well, yeah, I mean, he's gonna get better

686
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: because he's younger, But how high Jane McDaniels, Nikhil Alexander Walker,

687
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: who I am high on? I mean, are there games

688
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: gonna grow? Maybe? And Mike Conley he's thirty six, Like,

689
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: is he gonna stay healthy? What type of Conley are

690
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: you getting? They like, I feel like all of that

691
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: has to work together at the exact same time, and

692
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: then yeah, then you've got a really good team. But

693
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: two or three of those things falter decline don't work.

694
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: In the case of Cat and go Bear not matching,

695
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: that's an issue. So I don't know what to do

696
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: with it.

697
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: That's what It's tough. They were like fighting on the

698
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: bench last year, right, you know, as you're like, oh,

699
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: they're bringing back everybody. Wait a second, they're bringing back everybody,

700
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: the people that were punching each other.

701
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

702
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: This is a This will be a stressful one if

703
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: you're a Timberwolves fan.

704
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: So you're going just over.

705
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go exactly forty five wins. I'm

706
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: not feeling great about it. But another part of my

707
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: figuring out over unders here is I want to have

708
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: exactly fifteen overs and exactly fifteen hunders and it worked out.

709
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: So I can't change it. I can't do it. Well.

710
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: I was wondering if you will also have this team

711
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: in the Northwest Division over or under, because I feel

712
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: like some people you almost have to pick which one

713
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: with the same line. I'm talking about the Thunder forty

714
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: four and a half, the exact same line as the Wolves.

715
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: They took a great step last year in their rebuilt

716
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: finished forty and forty two, so the flip record of

717
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: the Wolves. They just missed out on the actual playoffs.

718
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: They beat the Pelicans and then lost to the Wolves

719
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: in the play in tournament. Shay Gildos Alexander turned into

720
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: an All NBA player. They saw growth from Giddy Jail

721
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: and Williams. J Dubb Isaiah Joe was good LOUDRT at times,

722
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: among many others. So what are they doing here? While

723
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: they're bringing back the number two overall pick from two

724
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: years ago, Chet Holmgren from a foot injury that kept

725
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: him out all last season, they got Cason Wallace, who

726
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: they traded up in the draft to get at number ten.

727
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: I believe the Tuckey combo guard. They signed Vasilia Michic

728
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: a two time year league MVP. He's there now in

729
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: a three year deal and they use cap space to

730
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: add like some really to get picks. But we're talking

731
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: Rudy Gay Davis Berton's OLA depot. So okay, See, they

732
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: seem to be the hipster pick here coming into the

733
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: season of like, ooh yeah, forty four and a half.

734
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: They could go way higher than that. What says you?

735
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: I got a little nervous when I was reading Kevin

736
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: Pelton's preseason projections and he mentioned the plexiglass principal. A

737
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: team that has a big improvement in one year often

738
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: has a small improvement the next. So that could easily

739
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: be the Thunder. And I was definitely thinking of one

740
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: of Minnesota and Oklahoma City. Once should go over, one

741
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: should go under. Yeah, I went over with the Thunder

742
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: or with the with the Timberwolves. Yeah, I'm going over

743
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: with the Thunder.

744
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 3: Oh We're doing both.

745
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: And I don't feel as confident about this, just like

746
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: I don't feel confident about the Minnesota Timberwolves. But I'm

747
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: a big chet fan. I think he gives the Thunder

748
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: exactly what they were missing last season rim protection, defensively,

749
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: rebounding and a little bit of pressure at the rim.

750
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: I think there are another trade potential team just because

751
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: they have so many picks around that if they wanted

752
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: to acquire a veteran and try and get in the

753
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: top six, they could easily do it. The biggest loss

754
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 2: for the Thunder I think this season is the surprise factor.

755
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody going to be taking them easily during this

756
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: season after Shae Gil, just Alexander's All NBA season and

757
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: the fact that they're just a competitive team. This is definitely,

758
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: to me, not the season for the Thunder to really

759
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: take a step forward and be a competitor in the

760
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: Western Conference. This is more of a figure out what

761
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: works season. You gotta see how Chet fits with everybody

762
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: and if playing a five out style is going to

763
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: be effective for this team. You gotta see just how

764
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: Shay Gil's, Just Alexander and Josh Giddy can work together,

765
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: you know, since both of them are best with the

766
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: ball in their hands and Giddy isn't necessarily a great

767
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: off ball player. I think you're trying to figure out

768
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: if lou Dord is really a long term starter. Yeah

769
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: here as well, so some thing to figure out, But

770
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm feeling too good about the Thunder right now forty

771
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: five wins.

772
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I want to slow play this team.

773
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to get ahead of ourselves with them.

774
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: But man, then I see them in like even preseason,

775
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: and just like you see what you see Giddy and

776
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 3: why wouldn't he improve Jalen Williams. I mean, I'm starting

777
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: to convince myself this guy is gonna be another star

778
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: like in this league on the wing position. What he

779
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: can do obviously SGA. He's probably not gonna score thirty

780
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: a game. Again, I don't think he will because of

781
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: chat there and maybe even Jalen and some of these

782
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 3: other guys getting more opportunity and more shots. But that's okay.

783
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean, he ain't goot a care if he's winning,

784
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, more than forty five games. So I'm gonna

785
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 3: go just over too, because this the talent, the vibes

786
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 3: to use your calculation there, they feel good and they

787
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: could you never know. You never know when Presty's gonna

788
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: like push all those draft picks in because of disgruntled

789
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: superstar that wants out, and man, then suddenly you plug

790
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: like another guy into this roster and it could be

791
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: like Holy crap, they could be good. I'm not sure

792
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: that will happen because, I mean, this guy notoriously takes

793
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 3: his but forty four and a half. It's a good line.

794
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: It's a good line.

795
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: I like that. Bet MGM knows they're a good team.

796
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: But just how good they are they I'm gonna go

797
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: just over, man. I can't wait to watch them, though.

798
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: I'm very excited about the squad. Portland Trailblazers twenty eight

799
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: and a half. What's new for Portland? They got Scoot

800
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: Henderson at number three in the draft. They also took

801
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: Chris Murray, Keegan Murray's brother, the twenty third pick. They

802
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: re signed two forwards, Jeremy Grant one hundred and sixty

803
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: million over five years, Matisse Thibel, and in two trades

804
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: involving three other teams, they got DeAndre Ayton, Brogden, still Kamara,

805
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: time Lord, some picks, some swaps, all of that really

806
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: For Damian Lillard twenty eight and a half, you already

807
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: said it off the top, you think this is going

808
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: to be still one of the bad teams in the

809
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: Western Conference. So I guess you're going under.

810
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: I think I'm going under. But basically, just because some

811
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: teams in the Western Conference have to lose, like not

812
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: every team can possibly be good. It's kind of a

813
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: weird team though, now for Portland, because they feel like

814
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: a rebuilding team obviously now the Damian Lillard is gone.

815
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: They've got a ton of young guys, but they also

816
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: have a ton of veterans who are all not that

817
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: old as well. Like their oldest guy is Malcolm Brogden,

818
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: the only guy on the team who is thirty thirty

819
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: years old. And then you've got like anthrety Simon's he's

820
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: a VET, he's been around for a few seasons, but

821
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: he's still really young. Ayton is a young VET, as

822
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: are Jeremy Grant time Lord as well. So they have

823
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: a good team around Scoot Henderson I think, so that

824
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: he's not going to just be completely floundering out there.

825
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: They definitely have trade potential with Brogden and Jeremy Grant

826
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: and Robert Williams, all of whom could be moved at

827
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: some point during the season, which would hurt their projected

828
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: win total. I assume one of those, if not too,

829
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: will happen eventually. The Portland OH Chicago at top fourteen

830
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: protected draft pick so tank away Boys is kind of

831
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: how it plays out to me. I'm going under here,

832
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: though I don't think they'll be super far under twenty

833
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: eight wins.

834
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. I'm also going under. I'm

835
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 3: leaning that way. I love like what they have going here.

836
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you traded away your franchise guy, one of

837
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: your greatest players in the history of your team, and

838
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard and you Usually when that happens, you're left

839
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: going Jesus like you're just looking at the rubble. You're like, oh,

840
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: this is gonna be rough. It don't look that way.

841
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: I mean, Scoot eight and time, Lord Sharp and Simons.

842
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: That's an intriguing set of young players. There's still Jeremy Grant.

843
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: Maybe they look to move him and get more picks

844
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: or more young players in return. But then you go,

845
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: when was the last time a team that's made up

846
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: of all guys that are basically twenty five and under right,

847
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: I mean Brogden's probably gonna get moved to without an

848
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: All star in the bunch, When did they do really

849
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: anything special? I mean, and those type of teams they

850
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: generally struggle to defend too, which I think is going

851
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: to be an issue here. I think they're gonna be entertaining.

852
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: I think they're going to lose a lot of games

853
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: sort of in the fourth quarter and in second halfs

854
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: So I go under. But uh, fun players on this team.

855
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: The highlights from you know, Sharp alone and some of

856
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: these lobs maybe to uh to time, Lord and Neaton

857
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: could be fun. Blazers asked a great question too. I

858
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: thought it was well, that was one of their questions. Yeah,

859
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: and we'll find out. You're right. Can Chauncey Billups coach?

860
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: He hasn't really had to.

861
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: Well, look at he's hired back in twenty twenty one.

862
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: He comes into the league with zero head coaching experience.

863
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: He is tasked with growing a playoff contender around of course,

864
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: now the departed Lillard, the Blazer's got two trips to

865
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: the lottery instead. And so now, as we said, this

866
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: roster is basically all under the age of twenty five,

867
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 3: Like his mission is now completely switched, right, it's like

868
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: player development around Scoot and these young guys. I mean,

869
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: maybe he'll be better at that than the prior plan

870
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: of like win and like try and get dem into

871
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: some playoffs success, But maybe not. Maybe he's just not

872
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: a good coach. So I think he could be on

873
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 3: the I think he could be on a hot seat

874
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: here if they got off to a really really bad start.

875
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: I mean what, like, what would be the reason to

876
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: keep him?

877
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right that he's on the hot seat,

878
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: But also what would be the point in getting rid

879
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: of your coach when you're not really expected to win?

880
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: I guess that Portland, if they're looking for a model

881
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: for how to have a successful season, it is going

882
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 2: to be last year as Utah Jazz, they traded away

883
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: two of their best players in Mitchell and Gobert. Had

884
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: the remnants from those trades all kind of decent NBA

885
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: players who were established and kind of caught the league

886
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: by surprise by having a system that caught everybody off guard.

887
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: They didn't play any defense, like you're saying a young team,

888
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: they played no defense, but playing that five out style,

889
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: they were able to stack up a bunch of wins

890
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: until they started trading. The be's a way again. So

891
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: we'll see. Is Chauncey Billips as good of a coach

892
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: as Will Hardy. He has not been through one season

893
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: Will Hardy's career. But like you're saying he has gotten

894
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: some pretty solid development. I think out of anfrety Simons,

895
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: he's become a real player with Damian Lillard resting quite

896
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: a bit during the past couple of seasons, so Phillips

897
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: has been good for Simons's growth. And I suppose if

898
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: you have a franchise point guard coming in in Scoot Henderson,

899
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: good to learn from an established NBA point guard in

900
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: Chauncey Bill.

901
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: I think you're in for quite the roller coaster season

902
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 3: from Scoot, where the highs are high forty point games,

903
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: he pops off whatever, and then the lows or lows

904
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: like there's going to be some rough shooting nights, you

905
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: know where he struggles from philp And that's okay. And

906
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: he's coming in being asked to play the toughest really

907
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: maybe position in the NBA, at least the one position

908
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: that takes the longest to sort of get comfortable with.

909
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: But that's a good point about Billups obviously being a

910
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: former point guard and future Hall of Famer, probably that

911
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 3: he is going to learn from utadj Us. You slipped

912
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: it in there thirty five and a half getting a

913
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: little more respect. They were a pleasant surprise last season.

914
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: They got off to a ten and three start, remember that,

915
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 3: and they I think they had surpassed their win total

916
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: before the All Star break last year because they they

917
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: were Yeah, they were pegged to be one of the

918
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: worst teams in the league. I was wrong about them.

919
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: I thought they were going to be. They finished in

920
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: the end thirty seven and forty five. So what did

921
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: they do? They added Hawks forward John Collins. He is there.

922
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: They used their first round picks on Taylor Hendricks and

923
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: Kyante George, who they are very high on. He could

924
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 3: be maybe starting soon for this team at the guard position,

925
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: and Jordan Clarkson decided to sign a three year contract

926
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: extension rather than test the free agent waters. Thirty five

927
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: and a half is the line I said for Utah Jazz.

928
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: What do you think.

929
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: I think that's a tiny line. That's the thing that

930
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: sticks out of me. Thirty five and a half. That's

931
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: pretty low. This team won thirty seven games last year,

932
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: but they fell off hard eight and fourteen after the

933
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: All Star break when they had traded away, you know,

934
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: some of their established veterans. I think they're back to

935
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: development mode, like you're mentioning. They had two first round

936
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: picks this year. And one of them might end up

937
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: starting Kiante George. That tells me you're not pushing all

938
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: in trying to win this season. I still think there

939
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: is a baseline of talent here. I think the system

940
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: works in the regular season just because you don't see

941
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: a team that's playing shooters at the four and five

942
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: all that often playing that five out style, So they

943
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: probably are going to be successful again. The offensive rebound

944
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: like crazy. I guess maybe the offense takes a little

945
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: bit of a step back if we're getting more Walker Kessler,

946
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: just because you know, a Lennux a more versatile offensive

947
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: player at the very least. So I'm going over here,

948
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: but barely. I think they could get back to thirty

949
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: seven wins. The Jazz could, but I could definitely see

950
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: this one going under.

951
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: How do you feel about John Collins here in Utah? Like?

952
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: Is he going to have a lowry market in like resurgence?

953
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: Can will Hardy do it again?

954
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: Well? I don't know. We used to talk about John

955
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: Collins as a potential All Star, yeah, early in his

956
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: career in Atlanta or you know the path, Yeah, and

957
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: having the space that the Jazz system creates would definitely

958
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: be helpful for him. But if they are planning on

959
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: running a lineup out there of market In Kessler and

960
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: John Collins, that doesn't bode well to me for Collins

961
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: becoming an All Star. I'll probably have better seasons than

962
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: he did at the end of his Atlanta career, where

963
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: he just felt like he was kind of standing out

964
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: there waiting to catch wide open three pointers. But I

965
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: think he helps on the rebounding at the very least,

966
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: and as an older guy, I think it's good to

967
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: get one of those vets back after they shipped everybody

968
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: out at the trade deadline last year.

969
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: I would say for the most part, the stream team

970
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: seems to be leaning towards over for the Jazz, and

971
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: people are liking the idea of them at least replicating

972
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: the thirty seven win season though they had last year.

973
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: Though I don't see them probably starting ten to three

974
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: and I did sort of forget about that. That's a

975
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: hell of a hot start there, and then they sort

976
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: of obviously pivoted with their organizational sort of game plan

977
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: moving forward, but they got a lot of talent. I

978
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: guess I would lean just over as well. You talk

979
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: me until that thirty six thirty seven win season something

980
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: like that, hopefully playing or having hopes to get into

981
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: like a play in position in the final three weeks

982
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: of the season. Maybe they're in the running. Put me

983
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: down for the Utah Jazz being one of the fantastic

984
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: teams in the in season tournament for no reason. Okay,

985
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: you heard it here first. I like the Jazz in

986
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: the in season tournament. All right, we gotta take one

987
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: more break and when we come back, the Southwest Division.

988
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. Okay, our final division it's the Southwest Division. Yeah,

989
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: Texas JD. Show me that sexy graphic that you put together. Oh,

990
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 3: Wemby makes it. We got Dallas forty five and a half,

991
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: Houston thirty one and a half, Memphis is Memphis in

992
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: Texas kidding forty five and a half. New Orleans forty

993
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: four and a half. In San Antonio twenty eight and

994
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: a half. We start with Dallas. Safe to say they

995
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: were a major disappointment last season. They finished thirty eight

996
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: and forty four. They missed the play in let alone

997
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: the playoffs. That's why they got busy this offseason. They

998
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: re signed Kyrie Irving to a three year, one hundred

999
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: and twenty six million dollars deal. They signed White Powell

1000
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 3: to a lot less than that. They traded for Grant

1001
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: Williams and Rashaun Holmes. They drafted athletic big man Derek

1002
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: Lively the second and potential three and d Guy Omax prosper.

1003
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: They signed Derek Jones, Junior, Dante Exhem Seth Curry, who's

1004
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 3: back for the third time. I think with the Dallas Mavericks.

1005
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, somebody fact checked me on that, but

1006
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: that's really what they did. Have they done enough to

1007
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: win over I guess forty six wins or more?

1008
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: Wow, Seth Curry, that is right three times? This is

1009
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: the Stavericks. Yeah, they're like me when it comes to

1010
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: NBA two K. I'm always getting Seth Curry. I like

1011
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: that guy's gonna be helpful. Yeah, exactly. In NBA two

1012
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: K he's awesome, man, because like he shoots forty five

1013
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: percent from three. Uh, and you don't really care about

1014
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: his defense because you're just simming through these It's like, yeah,

1015
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: I'll take Seth Curry. I kick it, Steph. Why not

1016
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: thirty eight and forty four last season but barely a

1017
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: positive point differential. They had a lot of losses in

1018
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: the clutch, especially especially when they trade him for Kyrie

1019
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: Irving and it was like Luca, you could see them

1020
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: trying to figure out who should have the ball, How

1021
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: are we getting the best out of each other? They

1022
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: couldn't figure it out. I think they'll be better in

1023
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: the clutch in year two with Kyrie and Luca, just

1024
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: because they will have a longer time to try and

1025
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: figure it out. I think the team makes a lot

1026
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: more sense this season than it does after the trade

1027
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: for Kyrie. They've improved their personnel. But also when you're

1028
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: reading through the names, I'm like, okay, okay, okay, Grant Williams.

1029
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: He's probably the only guy that really helps here. So

1030
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm going under just because I don't think they were

1031
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: really a thirty eight win team last year. Obviously we

1032
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 2: know about them tanking at the end of the season,

1033
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: but I also don't think that they are going to

1034
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: be eight wins better this season to get up to

1035
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: forty six wins. So I think they will improve. I

1036
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: think they'll be in like the forty one to forty

1037
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: four range, So that still leaves me with an under.

1038
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: I like that they are at least in the offseason

1039
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: tried to address their defense. You know, Grant Williams is

1040
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: a good defensive player. I'm not sure I want Grant

1041
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: Williams to be possibly the third best player on my team,

1042
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: which I think when you'll look at the roster he

1043
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: might be. So there's that issue. But anyway, he plays defense. Obviously,

1044
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: Derek Lively the second the idea. You know, a big athletic,

1045
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 3: maybe defensive minded guy. Oh Max prosper As I said,

1046
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: you know, even Andante xem and Derek Jones, like those

1047
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: guys are like more known for their defense than it

1048
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: is for their offense. So I like that because they

1049
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: were garbage last year on defense, excuse me, which was

1050
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: weird because the year before that, first year Jason Kidd bumped,

1051
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: they were the fifth ranked defense in the twenty one

1052
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: to twenty two season. Last year they fell to twenty

1053
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 3: fifth in the league. So they got to be better

1054
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: on that end, and they're hoping some of the personnel helps.

1055
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: Because when Kyrie and Luke were on the floor, they

1056
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: had like a one hundred and nineteen point two offensive rating.

1057
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not really the issue. They gotta gets

1058
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: around those guys. This is a good line. It feels

1059
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: exactly where they'll be. I was down on the Mavericks

1060
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 3: last year, you might remember in our preseason shows. I'm

1061
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: not as down as much because this line feels, you know,

1062
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: more in tune with what they'll be. Oh my god,

1063
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 3: it's a flip a coin. They're gonna be right there, truthfully,

1064
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be there, so good at this it's

1065
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: gonna be forty four, forty five and forty six wins.

1066
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: I know it, I know it, So I guess. I mean,

1067
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: I don't have a coin on me, because who carries

1068
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: money any nowadays?

1069
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: You know, like coins, coins?

1070
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: Was the last time you held a coin?

1071
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: The last time I held a coin? Yeah, I was

1072
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: probably given one by a kid, but like pocket full

1073
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: of change? Never probably not in the twenty twenty.

1074
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: Do you have coins in your car? Even?

1075
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: I do? Interesting? Interesting? Maybe maybe thirty five cents total.

1076
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: Really, you think it's so oh you think it's like

1077
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: buried in the car's in another relic of forgotten time,

1078
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: the cigarette ashtray.

1079
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you know it's like the car makers after

1080
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: like after the twenty tens, they didn't know what to

1081
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: do with the space that they would put an ashtray.

1082
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 3: They're like, just put a hole. Yeah, put a hole.

1083
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: What are you gonna put in there? Coins? Nobody uses coins.

1084
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: Pretty soon we're not gonna have any holes in our cars.

1085
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: A good point over underund the number of years before

1086
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: there are no trays in your car.

1087
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: I actually prefer that because I just cleaned my car.

1088
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: Flat surfaces a little bit, because I just cleaned my

1089
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: car not that long ago, and those are the most

1090
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: annoying places to clean, all these crevices, like you said,

1091
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: in the door, to hold things that I never put

1092
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: in there, just dust and dirt. So yeah, flat interior,

1093
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: all right, that's what we want.

1094
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: Tweet had us pictures of coins in your car.

1095
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: Get that. Oh yeah, coins in the car. I'm gonna

1096
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: find one later. I'm gonna flip it, but right now

1097
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm going under. I will do it nice. I'll post it.

1098
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: I got Mavericks just under, though I don't believe that

1099
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: much in the defense being too too much better.

1100
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

1101
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: Houston Rockets thirty one and a half. What did they do?

1102
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: Your Doka is in he's a coach. They did a lot.

1103
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: They drafted Iman Thompson and Cam Whitmore, who was the

1104
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: summer League MVP. Uh. He was a projected top five pick,

1105
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: dropped all the way to twenty because of medical and

1106
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 3: or personality issues. Did you see his dunk? That wasn't

1107
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: a dunk in preseason last night? Sorry he flew and

1108
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 3: we got an other charge. Oh my god. They gave

1109
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: Fred van Vlid a bag. They signed Dylan Brooks, Jock Landell,

1110
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 3: Jeff Green, Aaron Holliday, Reggie Bullock in free agency. Seven

1111
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: guys are out. I mean, there's a different team here.

1112
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: Besides like you're the Jalen Green and Shehnghun and stuff

1113
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 3: like that. They finished twenty two and sixty last year,

1114
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: so this line thirty one and a half. That's a

1115
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: it's a heck of a jump. You know, we're looking

1116
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: at a ten win improvement here. Do you think the

1117
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: Rockets have it in them?

1118
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a ten win improvement in them,

1119
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: but I think they are gonna feel like they're ten

1120
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 2: wins better because this now seems like a professional team

1121
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: to me. Bringing an email Udoka as the coach, and

1122
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: all of the veterans who are at least going to

1123
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: be giving effort defensively right and helping these teams or

1124
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: helping the Rockets learn how to win. Kelly Eco just

1125
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 2: had a great column on the Athletic he can subscribe

1126
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: at the Athletic dot com slash no Dunks, and he

1127
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: was asking all of these players on the Rockets, and

1128
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: I believe on the Pacers as well, what's the best

1129
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: advice you got as a rookie? And all of the

1130
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: Rockets were like, I didn't get any good advice. Everybody

1131
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: was my same age. I'm not taking advice from somebody

1132
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: who's my age, which fair enough, that's a hard thing.

1133
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: Like Jabari Smith Junior is not turning towards Jayalen Green

1134
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: and saying, give me some advice.

1135
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: And what was it like for you playing that one

1136
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: extra season?

1137
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1138
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: Like what's uh, what's ty Ty Washington gonna teach Tarry

1139
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: Eason right now?

1140
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right?

1141
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: Those are the things that keep me up with n

1142
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: So I think they had better advice in the locker room.

1143
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe from Eudoka who knows at least basketball wise.

1144
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: Freend van Vliet I think is going to be a

1145
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: good guy to have around, as are Dylan, as is

1146
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks. Guys who were like not hyped prospects, right,

1147
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: guys who have made their name in the NBA by

1148
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: giving effort and by doing the little things, even if

1149
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: sometimes the little things is a little tapping up the

1150
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: Rockies from Dylan Brooks. I can't believe this guy's hitting

1151
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: nuts in the preseason Skeets wild stuff, but that's why

1152
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: you bring in them in. I still think they're under

1153
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: but this is just another bet of somebody has to

1154
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: lose in the West, and the Rockets are not very

1155
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: flower along and they're rebuilt.

1156
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten feels like a lot, like I said twenty

1157
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 3: two to thirty two to hit the over. They're gonna

1158
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 3: be better because of all the reasons you just went through,

1159
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 3: and even just coaching alone. I think Udoka is a

1160
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: more capable coach than Steven Silas is and was. And

1161
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: they spent money on upgrading the roster, and they got

1162
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: some of these guys in where they overpaid. Maybe, but

1163
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: if it helps you win games, which is the point here,

1164
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 3: then that's great. I wonder of their young guys, who's

1165
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: gonna really pop up, Who's gonna who's gonna like I

1166
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: don't know in playing alongside Vets, Who's that gonna help more?

1167
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: Is it?

1168
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: Jamari Smith Junior is it Jalen Green, is it Sheng Gun,

1169
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 3: is it Tarry Easton? I mean they're gonna pray it's

1170
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: three of those four guys, like they take a bit

1171
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 3: of a leap, and it could be because they showed promises.

1172
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeahsh yeah. But it's you know, it's the consistency

1173
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 3: of stringing it all together throughout a game and then

1174
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: a season. But that's where the Vets come in. I

1175
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: like them to be. I like the honestly flirting with

1176
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: this over under. I think they'll be knocking on the door.

1177
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: But I think I should go just under because we

1178
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: do need some bad teams in this yas Miss Conference,

1179
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: so some teams not winning, you know, some thirty games,

1180
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: I guess.

1181
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: Ask for your question of who thrives playing next to

1182
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: the Vets, I think Jabari Smith is the answer for me,

1183
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: just because it feels like his game will improve if

1184
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: he's playing alongside creators who are playmakers. I don't know.

1185
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet is a great playmaker in the realm

1186
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: of the NBA, but compared to what the Rockets have

1187
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: had for last season, Jalen Green is a good shot

1188
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: creator for Jalen Green, but he's not necessarily getting great

1189
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: looks for Jabari Smith. I think playing alongside an established

1190
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: point guard will be great for Smith because he's a

1191
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: good catch and shoot player, and as we saw in

1192
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 2: Summer League, he's added to his game as well. Yeah,

1193
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: from a scoring perspective, so I think he should have

1194
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of a breakout second season.

1195
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 3: No good here in the Stream team asked me, are

1196
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: you rooting for Fred van Vliet to have success in

1197
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: Houston or are you on the not on my team anymore? Bye? No,

1198
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: absolutely not. I'm I would love nothing more than to

1199
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: see VanVleet come in here and get this team like

1200
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: maybe they're like the surprise like Utah Jazz last year

1201
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: and off to a hot start and all the young

1202
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: talents clicking and those guys, especially Brooks and Van Vleet

1203
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 3: helping them get there.

1204
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1205
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: No, I am rooting. I'm rooting for Fred VanVleet. Why not.

1206
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 3: He's a good guy.

1207
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 2: He's a good guy, an Illinois boy.

1208
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good luck. We all bet on Fred. That's right,

1209
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: says Pierre. They're in the stream team. Okay, a few

1210
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 3: more teams. The Memphis Grizzlies forty five and a half wins,

1211
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: It is easy to forget thanks to guns on Instagram,

1212
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: but the Grizzlies have won fifty one plus games in

1213
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 3: each of the past two seasons. They're the only team

1214
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: in the conference to do that. They were the number

1215
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: two seed in the West both years. But we obviously

1216
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: know In June Adam Silver announcing a twenty five game

1217
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: suspension to start this season for John Morant. They let

1218
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks their defensive stoppers slash headache I guess walking

1219
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 3: free agency, though they did trade for defensive Player of

1220
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: the Year winner from a few years ago, Marcus Smart.

1221
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: They lost Tys Jones in that deal, though, and they

1222
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: added Derek Rose. They also gave Desmond Ban a five year,

1223
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: two hundred and seven million dollar extension, the richest in

1224
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: team history. What do you think, Memphis Grizzlies forty five

1225
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: and a half off feels like another tough one obviously

1226
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 3: with the especially with the John Morant being out twenty

1227
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: five games.

1228
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely the thing that gives you pause. On

1229
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: the total twenty five games, that's a lot of games.

1230
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 2: So for him to really for the Grizzlies to really

1231
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 2: go over, like John's got to play the other fifty

1232
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: seven basically right, and he has missed some time in

1233
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: his career with various injuries. But if he's able to

1234
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: stay on the court for the other fifty seven games.

1235
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: You look at last year's team fifty one wins. They're

1236
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: the only team in the Western Conference coming off back

1237
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: to back fifty win seasons. John only played sixty one

1238
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: games last year. Jared Jackson Junior played sixty three games,

1239
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Steven Adams forty two, Brandon Clark fifty six. This is

1240
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 2: a team that is used to their players missing time

1241
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: and kind of not taking a step back. They're still

1242
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: very young as a team. A lot of their rotation

1243
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: once you get past the starters as guys on their

1244
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 2: rookie contracts, which you know can be harrow income playoff time,

1245
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: but also in the regular season, you're getting a lot

1246
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: of looks at different people. Here, they are a prove

1247
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: it in the playoffs team because the Grizzlies have not

1248
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: looked as good in the postseason as they have during

1249
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: the regular season. But I think the number got too

1250
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: small here. I saw that the Grizzlies were number one

1251
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: in Kevin Pelton's math projections. Here I'm going over I

1252
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 2: think they could challenge for fifty wins. Again, forty five

1253
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: is just too small of a number for me.

1254
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes some sense. I'm excited to see the

1255
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: numbers that Desmond made, butts up. I think here in

1256
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: the first couple months of the season he could be

1257
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: flirting with an All Star selection that could be in play.

1258
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: I saw somebody in the stream team say, well, the

1259
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: Grizzlies have been good in years prior without John Morant. Yes,

1260
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: this is true, but I slipped it in there. A

1261
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: big part of that was Tys Jones as probably the

1262
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 3: best backup point guard in the league, sort of taking

1263
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: over the reins and continuing to run that team. He's

1264
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: not there now, so that sort of falls down to

1265
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: other guys on this roster. Their bench is Luke Cannard.

1266
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: You know, Derrick Rose is there, David the Body, Roddy

1267
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: Santi al Dama, say, you're Williams, Xavier Tillman. Brandon Clark

1268
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: is there, but he's out I think for the first

1269
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: half of the season still due to a torn achilles.

1270
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1271
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: Does that? Yeah, Like I just read that bench. How

1272
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 3: do you confidence in that squad? Some players there no

1273
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: problems at least again, this whole thing of the first

1274
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 3: twenty five games. It's a different team without your superstar.

1275
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: One of the Grizzlies young role players ever been bad.

1276
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: They're always good, That's true. Last year, coming into the season,

1277
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if it's a great

1278
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: idea letting d Anthony Melton and Kyle Anderson go to

1279
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: their various teams. They didn't miss a step. Yeah, the

1280
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: Grizzlies have a great development project program. They really value

1281
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: their draft picks, which is why they don't make a

1282
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: ton of trades for players, and they always feel like

1283
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: they can get people later in the first round or

1284
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: in the second round. So I think they'll still be good. Though.

1285
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: I did see that Kenneth Afton Jr. Came in over

1286
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: three hundred pounds. We might have a new Oliver Miller

1287
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:12,439
Speaker 2: on our hands.

1288
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exciting. I forgot he was on this squad.

1289
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: And look the defense. I know Dylan Brooks goes and

1290
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: he was a great defensive wing stopper. But you do

1291
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: have Jaron Jackson Jr. Who just won the Defensive Player

1292
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: of the Year and Marcus Smart who won't you two

1293
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: years prior, and obviously we know what he can do

1294
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: on the perimeter. That's why I think I lean over.

1295
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: I also think, I mean John Moran is getting to

1296
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: be around the team. He's getting to like be at practices,

1297
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: he said. I mean, I don't know if he's going

1298
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 3: to be traveling on the road with the team. I

1299
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: assume he will be.

1300
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: I think he goes to Denver.

1301
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna say it. He is gonna come out Gangbusters?

1302
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: Is he not? When do you get poor choice awards?

1303
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: He's a fake gangster. Anyway, he's gonna come out. He

1304
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: should come out firing with something to prove he'll be

1305
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 3: on target.

1306
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: I think he is.

1307
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: He should be, and he also should go on the

1308
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 3: Dunk Contest when that should be his apology. You know,

1309
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: a part of his apology, he's like, you know, his

1310
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: little olive branch to all of us NBA fans. That's right,

1311
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: like missing twenty five games. Hey, okay, I screwed up.

1312
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: I've learned.

1313
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: I've moved on. Let's go in the dunk contest. Put

1314
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: on a show for you. Come on, do that, Joe.

1315
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go over with you. I do like it. Yeah.

1316
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: Two teams left New Orleans Pelicans forty four and a half.

1317
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: To quote Sean Powell at NBA dot Com, Zion Williamson

1318
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: could make it through the season. That's your recap of

1319
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: the twenty two to twenty three Repelicans, right there. A

1320
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: lot of truth to that. They stayed relatively quiet in

1321
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: the offseason. They drafted Jordan Hawkins, they signed Cody Zeller,

1322
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: and they brought back Herb Jones on a new deal.

1323
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 3: They did not do a whole lot of other things.

1324
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: He only played twenty nine games Ion last year. You

1325
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: know you're praying that he plays more. Where do you

1326
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: go with this team? Do you believe in them just

1327
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: staying healthy enough? Forty four and a half wins?

1328
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: I don't believe in them staying healthy enough. It's just

1329
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: how can you how can you bet on this like this?

1330
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: To me, it's off to a bad start.

1331
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be a lock for anybody. Yeah, exactly right.

1332
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: Tray Murphy the third already out. Brandon Ingram has had

1333
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: missed time basically every season since he's come to New Orleans.

1334
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: Larry nance Junior a surprisingly important player for them. I

1335
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: feel like he misses a little bit of time here

1336
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: and there, and then Zion obviously is the huge question

1337
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: mark seventeen to twelve in his twenty nine games. Last season,

1338
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: they were in first place for a chunk of the

1339
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: season in the Western Conference. There so this is a

1340
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: team that could finish the one seed in the Western

1341
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: Conference and the twelve seed in the Western Conference. I'm

1342
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: going under just because that feels like the right thing

1343
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: to do when you're uncertain about who's actually going to

1344
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: be playing.

1345
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, John Hollinger agrees with you. There are no bad

1346
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 3: predictions when it comes to this year's Pelicans. You could

1347
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 3: convince me of basically anything like you said, Zion in

1348
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: the running for MVP and they're near the top of

1349
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: the West, or yeah, they finish to quote John Hollinger,

1350
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: eight and seventy four. Because every single player on the

1351
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: team had a season ending injury. Not going to rule

1352
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: that one out either. Trey Murphy the third meniscus injury.

1353
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: He's out probably to start this year. Jose Alvarado, he's

1354
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: got an ankle injury during the offseason. They're hoping he

1355
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: is back and healthy for Game one of the regular season,

1356
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 3: but that's an issue. And then over the weekend, the

1357
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 3: Pelicans said Naji Marshall has been diagnosed with a bone

1358
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 3: bruise in his knee after undergoing an MRI. He's going

1359
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 3: to be reevaluated in two weeks, so maybe he's not

1360
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 3: there to start like the already and then yeah, the superstars.

1361
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Zion has what missed more than sixty percent

1362
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: of his team's total games toot his career. Tough to

1363
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: bet on this team and this stat I said it

1364
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: last year. I think it still blows my mind. The

1365
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 3: Pelicans brought in CJ McCollum at the twenty two trade

1366
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: deadline twenty two trade deadline. He has played a total

1367
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: of ten games with Zion and Brandon Ingram, the three

1368
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: of them out there. Yeah, like they're three best players,

1369
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: three really good players, but we've never seen them play basically,

1370
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: So I am going under.

1371
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because when you're looking at like the games

1372
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: played from this team last year, it's like your best

1373
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: two players are CJ. McCollum and Yonis Valanciunas for the

1374
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: majority of the season. Because those guys are reliable, but

1375
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: they ain't carrying you to a lot of wins. So yeah,

1376
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: I gotta go under. But man, if they if you

1377
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: told me you could get eighty two games out of

1378
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: every player on the roster for every team in the NBA,

1379
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: you would still be talking about the Pelicans as like

1380
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: maybe they could finish third in the Western Conference. They

1381
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 2: play everybody.

1382
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: Yep, Final one here, San Antonio Spurs twenty eight and

1383
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 3: a half women. Yama arrived in San Antonio as the

1384
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: league's most anticipated prospect since Lebron. He's looked great in

1385
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: his preseason action, doing some wild things. Because of this,

1386
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 3: probably Pop signed a five year extension to keep him

1387
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: there with the organization for at least a little while.

1388
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: They also signed Devin Vessel not that long ago to

1389
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: a multi year contract extension. It's a young, young roster,

1390
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: but do you believe in them? You know, flirting around

1391
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: the third you win mark or are you going to

1392
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 3: be going under?

1393
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be going under. This is another somebody has

1394
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 2: to lose team, and I think it will be the

1395
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs. They were really bad last season. You know,

1396
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: they didn't finish with the worst record in the NBA,

1397
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: but it kind of obscured the fact that they were

1398
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: twenty ninth in offense thirtieth in defense last season. I'm

1399
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: guessing they're in the teens at the very least defensively

1400
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: this year. Theoretically, they will get more games from Devin Vessel,

1401
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 2: and then Victor should be an impact player defensively right away.

1402
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 2: He's going to be Deon Sanders except for the half

1403
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: of the Corties taking away as the half underneath the basket.

1404
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: It's going to be amazing just watching this guy play offensively.

1405
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a little bit more of a

1406
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: struggle for him once he gets going into the NBA

1407
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: and has to deal with stronger guys who know all

1408
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: the NBA tricks. If they're able to get into the

1409
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: top twenties in offense and the teams in defense, I

1410
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: think they can challenge the over But I'm going under here.

1411
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: I think they'll be careful with wemby rookie centers, they

1412
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have a huge impact. This isn't the usual

1413
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: rookie center.

1414
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: No.

1415
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. This will be maybe the

1416
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: most watched bad team in NBA history. WHOA at least

1417
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: since like Lebron's rookie season with the Cavs.

1418
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: Well, I just went and checked. I was like, I

1419
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 3: know they didn't make the playoffs, but how many wins.

1420
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 3: Did Lebron's rookie Calves team rack up? They got to

1421
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: thirty five and forty seven? Not bad, really not bad.

1422
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 3: You know, obviously would hit the over here. We're talking

1423
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 3: Lebron playing with big Z, Ricky Davis, Carlos Boozer, Ma

1424
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: Teen Cleeves, Jeff McInnis, you know, high renewable, crazy man jop.

1425
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1426
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean it was not a great team, but rookie

1427
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 3: Lebron even got them to thirty five wins. I mean,

1428
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: is that where Victor is? Is he going to just

1429
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: be automatically coming in here and and takes you to

1430
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 3: a thirty plus win team what you've seen so far,

1431
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: you could you understand why that it's a possibility. But

1432
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: this is the Spurs too.

1433
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1434
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 3: They don't they don't really, they don't rush anything.

1435
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: They don't rush, they don't.

1436
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 3: They don't. They're smart about it. So hmm. It pains

1437
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 3: me to take the under on this one. I feel

1438
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna regret this one, but I think I

1439
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 3: would just just take the under. Too young. They're just

1440
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: so so so young. All right, we've gone through every team.

1441
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: Let's hear your three Western Conference over under locks. Do

1442
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: you have all three this morning, because when we were

1443
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: doing the East, you had two locks and then we

1444
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: sort of had to find a third that you felt

1445
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 3: good about. Oh I you got three.

1446
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm firing here. Memphis over forty five and a half, Okay,

1447
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies are good. They're a regular season wins machine.

1448
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: They've got a system. Taylor Jenkins pulls guys out of

1449
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: the woodwork, So I think, like Santiel Damas, like who

1450
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: is this guy? And he's legitimately a rotation player. John

1451
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: Conchard the same thing, just legitimately a rotation player. So

1452
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: I think some of those guys will hit, and then

1453
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe Zier Williams actually takes a step forward.

1454
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: I remember they traded up to get him back in

1455
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: the day, so his development would be big. To go

1456
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 2: in the Clippers under forty six and a half. Who knows,

1457
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: but I feel confident going under on a Clippers team

1458
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: just because they are the Clippers. And then my probably

1459
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: my riskiest one is Denver over fifty two and a half.

1460
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: I still think they're gonna be awesome, but they definitely

1461
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: lost some depth. They're relying on younger guys this season.

1462
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: But I think they're gonna have to play out the

1463
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: whole year and not have as much of a chance

1464
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: to chill in the late part of the season. And

1465
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: of course they've still got the best home court advantage

1466
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: and the best player in basketball. So I'm going over

1467
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: fifty two and a half for them.

1468
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 3: Okay, I like those my three locks. I'm gonna take

1469
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: two teams in the Pacific Division and hit the over

1470
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 3: the Kings forty four and a half, disrespectful. Come on,

1471
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna win forty five games once again. They're gonna

1472
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 3: be flirting with that fifty win mark. I actually believe.

1473
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 3: So I'm going Sacramento over. I'm going Suns over. I'm

1474
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 3: not gonna overthink it. Fifty one and a half. I

1475
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 3: know maybe they are shawl. I think they'll have enough

1476
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 3: guys contributing to their big three. I just think they're

1477
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: gonna be an offense. It's a juggernaut. I mean, surprise

1478
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 3: surprise like that on many nights is gonna be unstoppable.

1479
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 3: And then you even get to the end of games,

1480
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 3: and you've got three options to hit game winners and

1481
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 3: to run plays for and a runoff ball action, and

1482
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: we gotta focus on kd o Gez, there's Booker, Oh

1483
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: my god. Then there's Bill that is a nightmare. I

1484
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 3: think they win fifty two games, and then I'm gonna

1485
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: go Pelicans under forty four and a half. We just

1486
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: talked about it. They're already coming in banged up. I'm

1487
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 3: not banking on a Zion Williamson playing, you know, seventy

1488
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,520
Speaker 3: games by any means, and even some of their other guys.

1489
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: I just think I think all these teams, like we said,

1490
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 3: there's so many teams bunched up anywhere from forty four

1491
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: to forty nine wins. Of that group of let's say

1492
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 3: nine teams, one if not two are probably gonna fall

1493
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 3: out and maybe have to pivot their season around a

1494
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 3: trade deadline or stuff like that just because they're too

1495
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 3: far back. So I guess I'll bank on the Pelicans

1496
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: being that I'm going under.

1497
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 2: Gonna be a lot of jockey game for position. I

1498
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: do believe at the end of the season.

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01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: It's just perked up.

1500
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: He loves it. He's like, wait, call me when we're jockey.

1501
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 3: That's what they should tell of night one. We are

1502
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 3: jockeying for positions.

1503
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, goes out.

1504
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: Puts up forties and twenties.

1505
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it does feel like we're gonna have

1506
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: so many teams that are like forty five to forty wins.

1507
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there could be ten teams in that right, Yeah,

1508
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 3: absolutely should be a great, great season there in the

1509
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 3: Western Conference. All right, there it is. We've done the East,

1510
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: We've now done the West. I know you agree with

1511
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 3: some of our picks. I know you disagree with some

1512
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: of the other ones. We love to hear your input.

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01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 3: Leave your comments in the YouTube section, tweet at us

1514
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: at No dunks Ink. Make sure you like the show,

1515
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 3: make sure you subscribe. We're back tomorrow with some NBA

1516
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 3: award predictions. I think we'll do the key ones, of course,

1517
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: I'm talking MVPs, Rookie of the Years and stuff like that.

1518
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: We'll show you the odds on all that stuff as well.

1519
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 3: Maybe pick our favorites, maybe give you a dark horse pick,

1520
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 3: and then maybe we can come up with some like

1521
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 3: silly awards. Cool, you know, some made up No dunks awards.

1522
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: I love it.

1523
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 3: I think that's the plan for tomorrow. Join us Wednesday,

1524
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: ten am Eastern. I'll also be doing No Bunts with

1525
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 3: my guy Joel in Taiwan over at the Athletic Baseball

1526
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 3: Show feed that's early early tomorrow morning. Did you watch

1527
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: any baseball here of these championship series? Does? Phillies? Man,

1528
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 3: they can't stop socking Dingers.

1529
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know if I should be rooting for

1530
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: these guys. They knocked at Lann out of the playoffs

1531
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: back to back seasons.

1532
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 3: They got that dog? Yeah you like it? They do?

1533
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 3: I do.

1534
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: I love their scumbag energy clevades their team.

1535
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: Right now it's at least looking like Rangers Phillies. But

1536
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: a lot of baseball still to be played. So anyway,

1537
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: I'll be alive with Joel at about eight to fifteen

1538
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: tomorrow the Athletic Baseball Show, and then we'll be here

1539
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 3: at No Dunks at ten am. All right till then,

1540
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: Clipper bros.

1541
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1542
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome, Thanks for joining us. And remember

1543
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: the next big advance in automotive technology is completely flat interiors.

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Speaker 3: Brace the day of people