1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every day 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: from one to four and today we've got two rounds 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: of the Moistline, and the moist Line will be at 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: three twenty and three fifty And if you want to 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: join next week's voice line, phone numbers eight seven seven 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Moist eighty six, eight seven seven Moist eighty six. All Right, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: the story on Nancy Guthrie continues. And Nancy Guthries the 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: mother of Savannah Guthrie, the NBC Today's Show anchor, and 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: you know by now she was kidnapped from her home 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: in Arizona a number of days ago, and they're still 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: they still don't know where she is and what condition 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: she's in, whether she's dead or alive. There's been various 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: stories about ransom notes. And we're going to talk now 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: with Sasha Peznek, ABC News reporter and tell us what 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: the latest is. Shots. 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that massive search, as you said, now intensifying now. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Six days since Nancy Gothrie vanished in the middle of 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: the night from her home in Arizona. The FBI now 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: offering a fifty thousand dollars reward for any information leading 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: them to find her, and investigator says, you noted they're 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: taking seriously the possibility that she's being held for ransom. 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: They're looking at possible ransom notes sent to several news organizations, 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: including ABC's Tucson affiliate. Now that note hasn't been verified yet, 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: but it did have descriptions of Nancy Guthrie's watch, a 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: demand for bitcoin, and two deadlines, one bet has now 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: passed and another one coming up on Monday. The Guthrie 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: family making several emotional pleas to their mother's possible captors, 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: helping those please will be heard by her mother's kidnappers 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: directly saying we want to hear from you. We're ready 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: to talk. And yet at this point authorities haven't turned 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: up exactly what they really need, and that's some kind 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: of breakthrough. 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: What makes them confident if they've talked about this at all, 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: that this ransom note that the TV station got is 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: for real as opposed to I imagine they must be 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: getting all kinds of cranks in prank messages about ransom, 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: considering where the world lies, So how do they know 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: this one is really serious? 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Well, they don't for starters. You know, there's a lot 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: of things that go into verifying a note like this, 43 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: and it's also one of the reasons why authorities and 44 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: investigations like this often play their cards close to the 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: vest and they don't want to tip their hand and 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: give away too many details when a possible real ransom 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: note might have details that only a kidnapper might know. Now, 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: there are some indications, as we talked about the mention 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: of the watch and other things that possibly only a 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: kidnapper could know that that leads them to believe that 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: it could possibly be a real ransom note. But as 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: you've noted, in this day and age, there are a 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: lot of folks out there who are looking a scam 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: and that there already has been one arrest of a 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: ransom note. 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: Nobody's going to pay anything though, until they get proof 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: of life. Right. Has there been any indication that she's alive. 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: There is no indication that she's alive or dead. At 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: this point, we really have no indication from investigators or 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: otherwise that she is except for in this ransom note 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: that has not yet been verified. They said that she 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: is scared but safe. We don't know whether it's real 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: or not, and so investigators are going to be endeavoring 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: to do everything they can to reach out to set 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: up a line of communication if this is in fact 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: a real note from real kidnappers. And we know that 67 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: really in a case like this, time is of the essence. 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Not just because in investigations like this, the first hours 69 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: and days are often critical to chase any trail of 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: evidence before it goes cold, but you know, this is 71 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: also an eighty four year old woman we're talking about here, 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: who's vulnerable, who has health concerns, she has a pacemaker 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: she needs on a daily basis, and so really the 74 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: clock is ticking down, not just on those deadlines, but 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: on her well being as well. 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: Now they're never going to get the money though, and 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: they're never going to get away with it asked for sure. 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: If they don't, if they don't produce some proof that 79 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: she's still with us, it's just curious behavior on the 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: part of these alleged kidnappers, because you do have to 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: show what you've got before you're going to get a 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: reward for it. 83 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly right. It's very curious, and that is 84 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: a part, an important part of the Guthrie families, please 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to a person who might have their mother out there, 86 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: not just we want to hear from you, let's talk, 87 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: let's set up a way to communicate here, but also 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: we need proof of life. We need proof that our 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: mother is okay, and then we can move forward from there. 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: We do know the. 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: Sheriff confirmed yesterday the blood that was found on the 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: front porch was indeed Nancy Gothrie's blood. But the question remains, 93 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: as you said, how could this happen? This lady in 94 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: her bedroom, locked in her home at night just is gone. 95 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: And that really is something that it's easy to understand. 96 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Boggles the mind here, and so investigators now we're going 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: to be exploiting every single tool that they have. They're 98 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: bringing in additional resources with the FBI forensics experts and 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: cell phone data experts, trying to figure out who was 100 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: in the area which is well hidden by thick desert 101 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: brush and vegetation, so it's hard to catch anything on camera. 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: They don't have that yet either, offering that reward, and 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out really in this forty five 104 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: minute window in those wee hours of Sunday morning when 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: they believe she was abducted. What exactly happened? 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: All right? Thanks very much, Sasha Peznik, ABC News with 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: the investigative unit on this case of Nancy Guthrie. There 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be any reasonable motivation that you could 109 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: come up with unless you're doing this for money. The 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: motivation to kidnap this woman, the uh suspicion they would 111 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: have that Savannah Guthrie is probably worth millions of dollars 112 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: and would be willing to pay all of it to 113 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: get her mother back. That that that was the only 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: if there was any logic to this, That is the 115 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: only thing that makes sense why somebody would do it. 116 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: And certainly these these notes indicate that you know whoever 117 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: wrote these notes, but indicay, yeah, that that's the uh, 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: that's the motivation, give us millions of dollars of bitcoin. 119 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, but if you don't prove that you really 120 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: have her and that she's alive, you're not getting a time. 121 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: So either the notes are fake or there's some other 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: story that doesn't obviously make sense. Right now, she Nancy 123 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: Guthrie is can't provide anything for the kidnappers except a 124 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: lot of money from her daughter. But she's a normal, quiet, 125 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: elderly woman who can barely walk and needs a lot 126 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: of medicine. So there isn't any She doesn't have any 127 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: special secrets, any special knowledge that would make her valuable 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: to these people. 129 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: A deranged fan who really can't stand Savannah Guthrie. She 130 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: used to see her reaction. 131 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, I mean she's pretty middle of the road, though, 132 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't think she inspires and it kind of crazy. 133 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, offered the FBI and all of that, but I'm 134 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: just I'm just guessing. 135 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: No, I mean that that's actually a good one, is 136 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: if they got some kind of grudge against against Savannah 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: Guthrie that, But I don't know. She's she's pretty straightforward 138 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: and nice and it never struck me as she was 139 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: controversial in the least. I mean, she's had to interview 140 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: controversial people like Trump, and you know how that goes. 141 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: No matter what you when you interview Trump, better what 142 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: you do, you're gonna get blown back from somebody. 143 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: He's somebody who has a crush on her, somebody who 144 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: wants her attention. I don't know. It's such a baffling case. Yeah, 145 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: I'm just spitballing here. 146 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's what they're doing at FBI headquarters. They're having 147 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: the same conversations when we come back. The fake ransom 148 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: note sent by a guy here in the Los Angeles area. 149 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: And amazingly, this is not his first current scandal. We'll 150 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: tell you about it. He's got a recent scandal that 151 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: he's a part of. It's really hard to believe. 152 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 153 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: six forty. 154 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: So we just talked with an ABC News correspondent, Sasha Peznik, 155 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: and it's there's no movement, no news on this kidnapping 156 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Savannah Guthrie. There's been 157 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: those ransom messages had two deadlines in them. First one 158 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: has passed, second one will pass. The circumstances of the 159 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: deadlines are not explained, not very much as explained it 160 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: at all. You know. It's the question that we discussed 161 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: when we ended the last segment, is if you're not 162 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: going to show that you have her and that she's alive, 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 2: then you're not getting any money. So either this person's 164 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: a real lunatic and the all these ransom notes are fake. 165 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: Speaking of fake, we've got to talk about the false 166 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: ransom note from Derek Kalela of Hawthorne here in the 167 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: Los Angeles area. This bozo is forty two years old, 168 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: and he sent a message too of two Nancy Guthrie 169 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: family members. This is according to the criminal complaint by 170 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: the FEDS. And the message sent to the family members 171 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: said did you get the bitcoin? Did you get the bitcoin? 172 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: We're waiting on our end for the transaction that was 173 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: part of it. Now, Derek Kollela, he used this voice 174 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: over Internet protocol text and a call application to reach 175 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: out to the family, but they linked his phone number 176 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: to his email address and to his residence. He texted 177 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: the family twice, called him at least once, and according 178 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: to the complaint, Kalela has admitted sending the two text messages. 179 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: You know who this guy is. He's the same guy 180 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: who is charged with unemployment fraud in October by Nathan Hockman, 181 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: the La County District Attorney. Do you remember in October 182 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: we talked about this. There were thirteen people working for 183 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: La County who committed fraud because they filed and received 184 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: unemployment benefits during the COVID nineteen pandemic. This was part 185 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: of the thirty two billion dollars of lost tax money 186 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: because Gavin Newsom is an incompetent fool. There were actually 187 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: there were no constraints and no guardrails on who could 188 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: apply for unemployment money during COVID. He was told that 189 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: Newsom he knew that did nothing about it. Thirty two 190 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: billion goes out the door. He doesn't care well one 191 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: of the fraudsters, thirteen of the fraudsters worked for La County. 192 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: And what if it was Derek Kalela. Well, these guys, 193 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: the sociopaths. Remember everyone in the world should take a 194 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: course in sociopathic and psychopathic behavior. Sociopaths have no conscience. 195 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: This guy is also bizarrely obsessive. God knows how many 196 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: scams he's pulled in his life, how much much money 197 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: he's stolen. It seems like they have the goods when 198 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: it comes to this COVID money. But to think, and 199 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: they're not really that bright and sophisticated to think that 200 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: you're not going to get caught when you have so 201 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: much law enforcement and they're using the most sophisticated technology 202 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: at the FBI to examine every single message, no matter 203 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: what manner you send the message, whether it's phone, email, 204 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: text message. This voiceover Internet protocol, whatever it is, whatever variation, 205 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: they are going to track you. So this loser, I 206 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: don't know if he's sitting home on bail. I assume 207 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: he was at least put on leave. So this loser, 208 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: after getting caught in the COVID scam, getting busted, at 209 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: least they haven't convicted him yet. Now he hects. He 210 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: contacts the Guthrie family. So he's a psycho. He doesn't 211 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: care about the suffering that the family is going through. 212 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: He's trying to loot them out of money. Who raised 213 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: this guy? What's his family about? And of course he 214 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: gets hired by La County. Oh, they must have done 215 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: a hell of a background check there. They must have 216 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: really did one of those psychological interview processes. Of course, 217 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: he works for the government. He works for an entity, 218 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: the county government, that steals tax money all day long. 219 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: The whole purpose of the county government is to steal 220 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: people's tax money. It's what they do, it's why they're 221 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: in business. So he sees all this corruption around him 222 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: and figures, well, this is the world. I want to 223 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: be a part of it. I want my share. And 224 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: so he got his share of fraudulent COVID money. It's like, hey, 225 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 2: they're not tracking the COVID money, and now he's emboldened. 226 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: It's not even I don't think he might never go 227 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: to jail the way things are around here. But before 228 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: he even goes to jail, it's like, let me, let 229 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: me pick up a little side cash from Savannah Guthries family. 230 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: How about that? What is out there? And I don't 231 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: know how, I don't know how many others have sent 232 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: to fake ransom. Oh and of course it's in bitcoin. 233 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: You see bitcoin drop by half in value, of course 234 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: it did. It's not a real thing, no, no matter, 235 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: no matter how much the advocates tell you it's a 236 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: real thing, it's not a real thing. There is no 237 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: intrinsic value to bitcoin. That's why it drops by half 238 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: in a week. And that's why scam artists use it. 239 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: And that's how money laundering is done. That's what drug 240 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: runners use. Anybody involved in anything illegal, selling anything illegal, 241 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: and there's a cash transaction, they're using bitcoin now because 242 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: it's difficult to track. All Right, we got more coming up. 243 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 244 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: A six forty coming up, after two o'clock, we're going 245 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: to have Roger Bailey. He is the attorney for the 246 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: excuse me, Roger Bailey is the attorney in the civil 247 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: lawsuit that Palisades residents have filed against the City of 248 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: Los Angeles and the DWP. And now get this, the 249 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: City of Los Angeles is now suing the State of 250 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: California over the Palisades fire. Yeah. While the obviously much 251 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: of the fault for the fire rests with Karen Bass 252 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: and Genice keinonias of the DWP and decisions made by 253 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: fire officials, the state is heavily involved in this as well. 254 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: It started on state land and it was supposedly the 255 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: state employees from the Department of Parks and Recreation who 256 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: interfered with the Los Angeles Fire Department when they were 257 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: trying to put out the original fire. So the city 258 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: of La knows it's going to lose, and lose very badly, 259 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: and they want the they want the damages to be 260 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: spread out, they don't want to have to pay for everything, 261 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: so they're suing the State of California. Of course, Newsom 262 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: has always denied the state had any responsibility, and of 263 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: course he's lying and So the way I read this, 264 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: this is just fantastic because now Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, 265 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: you are going to have to each other trying to 266 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: prove who's more at fault for this disaster, because clearly, 267 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: clearly there's no possible way to spin this anymore. And 268 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: I don't see anybody trying now on Karen Bass. Again, 269 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: this isn't going away, at least not here on our show. 270 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: She lied and tried to cover up the cause of 271 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: the fire, her responsibility for the fire. And when the 272 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: after action report came out, it was so bland it 273 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: was like reading if it was like reading oatmeal. Clearly 274 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 2: she had it rewritten. She either did it herself or 275 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: she ordered people to do it, had to approve of it, 276 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: and she's denying it. But the question remains, if it 277 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: wasn't her, then why And she tell us who rewrote it? 278 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 2: There are six drafts, so who wrote it? Same thing. 279 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: Ronnie Vanaweva, who apparently has lost his ability to speak, 280 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: the interim fire chief Bass, according to the La Times report, 281 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: consulted with him. And then you have the new stooge, 282 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: Jimi Moore, the current fire chief, who tells everybody, well, 283 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: what are you going to do with that information. You're 284 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: just going to point fingers, point playing, Yes, that's what 285 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: we want to do. You got it, So why don't 286 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: you spill? Tell us who ordered it? If it wasn't 287 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: Karen Bass. Why isn't Karen Bass telling me who made 288 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: the changes? Now? NBC reporter, get clip number two ready. 289 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: NBC reporter Conan Nolan had Bass's first on camera response 290 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: to the report, which leads into what the mayor's race 291 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: is looking like. I thought the deadline was today, That's 292 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: what most news stories had said, and then I saw 293 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: a story yesterday they claimed it was that the deadline 294 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: was tomorrow to enter the mayor's race. So the final 295 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: field is not set yet. Listen to Conan Nolan's report 296 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 2: NBC four. What would be the purpose of covering up 297 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: a report that I ordered? 298 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 5: A frustrated Mayor Karen Bass responding forcefully to an explosive 299 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: report in the Los Angeles Times that she had altered 300 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 5: an after action report on the Palisades fire in order to. 301 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: Shield the city from litigation. 302 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: It was completely fabricated. 303 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: And by the way, you know who are the sources? 304 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 5: The time story is based on two unnamed sources who 305 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 5: did not directly hear Bass discuss the fire response assessment. 306 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 5: The paper claims their sources were reciting what they had 307 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 5: heard from two others within the Mayor's office. All of 308 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 5: the sources are anonymous. 309 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: Facts were not changed in the report. 310 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 5: What was changed was the verbiage that was used to 311 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: describe it. Last month, Fire Chief Jami Moore admitted that 312 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 5: prior to his arrival, changes had been made to the 313 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: PADACE After Action Report, but not to definitive facts, but 314 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 5: as to who could be blamed for failures and staffing 315 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: and pre deployment prior to record wins. Meanwhile, the field 316 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 5: of this year's race for mayor widened today and narrowed. 317 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 5: LA Education software entrepreneur Adam Miller announced his candidacy for 318 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: the job, and LA County Supervisor Lindsay Horriforth says she's 319 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 5: seriously considering her on Harveth has criticized the city's response 320 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 5: to the Palisades fire, which she represents. 321 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 6: From the moment the fire broke out, I immediately texted 322 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 6: the mayor, offering our assistance and offering to work collaboratively. 323 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 6: Her response hours later was I think we're good, so 324 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 6: obviously it turned out. We weren't good, we weren't even 325 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 6: close to good, and sort of closing people off and 326 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 6: shutting them out is not what leadership is. 327 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: I have no response to the supervisor, look forward to 328 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 5: continuing working with her on a variety of issues as 329 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 5: we already do. And today, former LA Unified Superintendent Austin 330 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 5: Butner announced in a statement that he is leaving the 331 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: race for mayor following the sudden death of his twenty 332 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 5: two year old daughter, writing, our family has experienced the 333 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 5: unimaginable loss of our beloved daughter, Emily. She was a 334 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 5: magical person, the light of our lives. We are still 335 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 5: in mourning. Family has always come first for me. That 336 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: is where I need to be at this time. 337 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: That is Colon Nolan from NBC four. Could you play 338 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: that opening quote that he had from Karen Bass because 339 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: this is a doozy. Did you go, what would be 340 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: the purpose of covering up a report that I ordered? 341 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: A frustrated mayor tich stop stop? What would be the 342 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: purpose of covering up a report that I ordered? She 343 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 2: thinks she's so slick. You're covering it up because the 344 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: report that you ordered made you look responsible, and you're 345 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: running for mayor, and you don't want that look in 346 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: an official report. That's not a good campaign ad if 347 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 2: it's used against you, or when it's used against you. 348 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: So that's why I love her fake outrage routine. I 349 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: study the tricks that these political losers use, and her 350 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: trick is to be incredulous. It's like, why would I 351 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: do that? Why would somebody say that? How could you 352 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: think that every time she's in a pickle she pulls 353 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: the same act. Well, I just can't believe that. 354 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 7: Could you? 355 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: How could you say that? Why would I do that? 356 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: Why would you? You would do that? Because you read 357 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: the report and it told too much of the truth. 358 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: The battalion chief who wrote the report disowned it, took 359 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: his name off it. Why because facts quote unquote were 360 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 2: changed or distorted or omitted erased. It had to be 361 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: the facts that made you look. I don't know how 362 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: worse you could look, but maybe you don't want to 363 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: see it in print. In fact, the stuff, the worst 364 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: part of it is stuff that might not even be 365 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: in the report. It starts with you ignoring days days 366 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: of multiple extreme mornings from the National Weather Service over 367 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: fire and wind danger, and you going to going to 368 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: Africa anyway, And it's you defunding the fire department, and 369 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: it's the fire officials feeling like they had to not 370 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: send a full crew up to put out the Lockman fire, 371 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: and not deploy firefighters the night before, and not keep 372 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: firefighters on a second shift the day of because you 373 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: didn't give enough money to get by. And I guess 374 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: they got hammered a lot for overspending. You know they've 375 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: got ten They got thousands of homeless fires to put 376 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: out every day. That costs a lot of money. You 377 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: can't take any money away from that budget, the homeless 378 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: fire budget, because you let people. You let insane people 379 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: live in the streets, drug addicts live in the streets. Ah, 380 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: how could somebody say that? Why would I? Because you're 381 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: only interested in you. You're only interested in having your 382 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: body up on stage for the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. 383 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: That's your only purpose in life, being a good sociopath, 384 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: a communist sociopath at that. You don't care what happens 385 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: to the people's lives in the Palisades. You didn't care 386 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: when you got on the plane in Africa. I was 387 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: looking at the photos of you drinking with all these 388 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: officials in Gowana that a good time. Couldn't tell what 389 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: you were drinking, but you had a good time, smiling, 390 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: sitting on a couch. Yeah. And meantime, people who were 391 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: back home were getting their lives destroyed, and you erased 392 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: all the text messages. Gee, I don't know why would 393 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: you possibly alter a report? What would be the motivation? Now? 394 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: I don't know who the hell is going to replace 395 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: you right now, but that's what the campaign's for. We'll see. 396 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: I can't believe any living human being would would vote 397 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: for Hurt, no matter what. The competition is. More coming up. Oh, 398 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: you know when we come back, what do I want 399 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: to do? I want to all right, the video that lunatic, 400 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: the video clip of the lunatic in Long Beach. Who's 401 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: running for mayor, Rohelium Martinez. Remember he wanted to see 402 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: fifty five gang leaders come this Monday, Monday to take 403 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: back the city from ice. We've got more on that 404 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 2: coming up. 405 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI A six. 406 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: All right, there is some loudmouth loser mayoral candidate. I 407 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: doubt he's a serious one. His name is ro Helio 408 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: Martinez and He posted a video on social media earlier 409 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: this week asking for fifty five gang leaders to gather 410 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: to take the city from Ice, claiming he's calling for nonviolence. Well, 411 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: if you're calling together fifty five gang leaders, what's the 412 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: point if you're not interested in violence? Right, let me 413 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: play you the clip if you haven't heard it. 414 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 7: My name is Rohalio Martinez. 415 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: I am calling. 416 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 7: All fifty five gangs in my beautiful city. I expect 417 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 7: a gang leader from every gang, all fifty five gangs, 418 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 7: and I'm not going to name them by name, but 419 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 7: I'm calling the Latino gangs. I'm calling the Cambodian gangs. 420 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 7: I'm calling the Filipino gangs. I'm calling the Black gang 421 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 7: I'm calling the Pacific Islander gangs. I'm calling all gang 422 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 7: leaders to meet me right here Long Beach City Hall 423 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 7: this coming Monday. Why Monday, specifically, I need you to 424 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 7: be here to meet me in person to take back 425 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 7: the city because our leadership is not doing anything about 426 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 7: it and our police are powerless. Once again, let me 427 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 7: be very clear, my name is Rohelio Martinez. You're twenty 428 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 7: twenty six Long Beach City Mayor, and. 429 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: I need your help. 430 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 7: I need to see fifty five gang leaders here this 431 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 7: coming Monday. We need to take back the city. Enough 432 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 7: is enough. I need to get out of Long Beach, 433 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 7: and this is the only way that I know how 434 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 7: to get them out. 435 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: With strong force, peacefully, with strong force. He remember, he 436 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 2: thinks he's so clever. All shut him off. Enough of him. 437 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: He thinks he's so clever. He thinks he's so cute 438 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: that if he keeps saying the word peacefully, nothing bad 439 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: is going to happen. And this protects him from any 440 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: misinterpretation of his words. Now, what he'd like to start 441 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: is a violent war against ice. He'd like to start 442 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: a race riot too, because his first response in this 443 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: news story is that when he was asked what kind 444 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: of reaction, he says, I got so many death threats 445 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: predominantly from MAGA white supremacists because I didn't call on 446 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: the white gangs. How many white gangs are there in 447 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: Long Beach, So I guess they were kind of hurt 448 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: by that. Real smart ass. Yeah, all the death threats 449 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: came from MAGA white supremacists. He if you've got a 450 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: bad reaction, it's people don't want to see Long Beach 451 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: burned down. They don't want a bloody massacre in the 452 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: streets between armed officers and gang members. They don't want 453 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: innocent people killed. This guy is a first ballot nominee 454 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: for the Moron Hall of Fame. Now he's saying, well, 455 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: there was not going to be any war between gang 456 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: leaders and ice. And I don't know how many gangs 457 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: they are on Long Beach. I picked fifty five because 458 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: I'm fifty five years old. No one bothered to ask 459 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: me how I came up with that number, because no 460 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: one approaches unhinged crazy people. FBI called him, though, I 461 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: was like, holy Toledo, this is really the FBI, And 462 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: they had questions for him. Has any gang member reached 463 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: out to you? And he said no, they had not. 464 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: Have you reached out to a gang member? No? And 465 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: what do you expect about today, Oh, only a peaceful 466 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: community rally in silence. When asked how many people were 467 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: ex but to show up, he told her just one himself. 468 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: I learned in life you can only count on yourself. 469 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: What is this. 470 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: Desperate for attention? This is the this is the disease 471 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: that has infected the brains of millions of people. It's 472 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: like some narcissism virus. They want attention, and he's willing 473 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: to challenge every gang in Long Beach to get into 474 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: a bloody fight with Ice if that means he gets 475 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: hits and clicks and eventually votes. You're not gonna convince 476 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: gang members to commit felonies for your pet issue, all right. 477 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: They're busy. Whatever gang members do to earn money and 478 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: gain power, they're gonna do. They're not gonna take a 479 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: break and start some kind of a race war with 480 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: ICE agents. All right. Roger Bailey coming up next. Rogers 481 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: the attorney for the plaintiffs in the Palisades, so in 482 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: the city over the fire and the DWP and now 483 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: the city is suing the State of California for the fire. 484 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: They want to spread out the damages. We'll talk about 485 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: it with Roger Bailey next. 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