1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's Weekend review, presented by Steele. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host. Ryan cal Callahan, a 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: county prosecutor in Ohio, was forced to apologize last month 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: after suggesting that the county hold a feral cat hunting 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: season Licking County, that's correct. Licking County Prosecutor Bill Hayes 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: made the comments during a question and answer session as 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: part of his campaign for a seat on the county Commission. 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: While he admitted the proposal won't be very popular, he 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: pointed out that the county has a squirrel hunting season, 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: so why not cats. Here's a quote from Bill. It 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: would seem to me, if you've got an animal that's 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: not a pet for anybody, you've got to do what 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: you've got to do to make the situation better. A 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: feral cats season if need to, you know, you gotta 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. As in many places in 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: the US, the feral cat population is growing in Licking County, Ohio. 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: A local nonprofit called Licking County Trap Neuter Release. Aside 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: from being just one word away from a nasty Google 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: search says they neuter as many as seventy five cats 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: every week and one hundred and thirty cat colonies are 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: enrolled in their neutering program. The local Humane Society estimates 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: that they have spaded or neutered five thousand cats in 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the last decade. According to the Newark Advocate, which you 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: know if you're doing the math, they've neutered or spade 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: five thousand cats in the last decade, and currently they 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: are neutering or spaying seventy five cats a week, and 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: there are one hundred and thirty cat colonies enrolled in 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: their program. We can go ahead and say definitively that 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: spay neuter release does not work. The director of that 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: humane society. So the community was stunned by Hayes's proposal. 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: The comments under the original article are mostly negative, and 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Ohio law prohibits quote needlessly killing cats and dogs. While 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: I had questioned whether killing feral cats is quote needless, 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: Haz's comment obviously caused some hissing and spitting in Licking County. 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Quick side note, Ohio won't be opening a feral cat 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: season anytime soon, but Australia's aboriginal communities have hunted feral 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: cats since at least the eighteen nineties. According to Smithsonian Magazine, 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: since being introduced to the continent about two d thirty 41 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: years ago, cats have wiped out more than a dozen 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: species in Australia. Today, the feral cat population has balloon 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: to over five million, and in sensitive ecosystems like Kangaroo Island, 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: some locals have taken it upon themselves to extra pay 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the cats by hunting them. Back in Ohio, Hayes issued 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: an apology two days after making his comment. I know 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: we can't go around shooting cats, He said. My solution 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: was not a good one, not even feasible. Well, I 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: don't understand why it's not feasible. It's a great question. 50 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Hayes, his political career UH took a lick there. 51 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: In Licking County, the damage was already done. His opponent 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: took advantage of the blunder by posting on Facebook an 53 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: uncaptioned image of himself holding a cat. Just a few 54 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: weeks later, he has lost the election for County Commissioner 55 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: by less than one percentage point, or about two hundred 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: and seventy seven votes. I wonder what the numbers would 57 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: have been like if songbirds and small mammals could have voted. 58 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: There might be more than one way to skin a cat, 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: but in Licking County, at least for now, there's only 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: one way to get rid of them, which is uh 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: let them die of old age. As a reminder, outdoor 62 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: cats kill about two point four billion birds per year 63 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: in the United States. A two thousand thirteen study published 64 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: in the journal Nature titled the Impact of free Ranging 65 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Domestic Cats on Wildlife in the United States estimates that 66 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: free ranging domestic cats kill one point three to four 67 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: billion birds and six point three to twenty two point 68 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: three billion mammals annually. Unowned cats, as opposed to owned pets, 69 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: caused the majority of this mortality. Our findings suggest that 70 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: free ranging cats cause substantially greater wildlife mortality than previously thought, 71 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: and are likely the single greatest source of anthropogenic mortality 72 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: for US birds and mammals. Scientifically sound conservation and policy 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: intervention is needed to reduce this impact. That was written 74 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: again in two thousand thirteen. It is now two thousand 75 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: twenty two and we're still spaying, neutering and releasing animals 76 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: that continue to eat just because it's fun. I'll bring 77 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: up the old joke of the farmers sand sir. The 78 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: issue is the cats are eating the birds. They're not 79 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: having sex with them to death. It's just science. Folks 80 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: don't let that affect free ranging cats. Seriously, Why why 81 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: is it a bad thing to suggest the killing of 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: feral cats? I do not understand. Anyway. This week we've 83 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: got hunter safety legislation and so much more. But first 84 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about my week. And my week 85 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: was spent at the annual Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Rendezvous. 86 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Rendezvous is first of all, a great time, I'll say 87 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: for the outdoors. It's also a really diverse crowd. B 88 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: h A membership seems to skew largely independent, so every 89 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: circle you bump into is kind of hard to pin 90 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: down which I love. You have libertarian to liberal to conservative, 91 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: all having a beer together and sharing perspectives on what 92 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: matters public land, public wildlife, food. We talked about wins 93 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: and losses. We talked a lot about corner crossing. You 94 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: can listen to that big discussion on the b h 95 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: A podcast and Blast hosted by Hal Herring. This episode 96 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: features Liz Lynch and Jared Oakleff of Wyoming b h A. 97 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: We talked about bruised air space, private property and what's 98 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: not the US Constitution, Unlawful Enclosures Act, and the fact 99 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: that very few landowners actually restrict access on corners, and 100 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: we can't let people think that every person with a 101 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: private property sign is unlawfully in closing the public trust. 102 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: We talked about a lawsuit filed here in the state 103 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: of Montana by the United Property Owners of Montana against 104 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks. They're demanding the culling of 105 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Montana's Elk herd and removal of wildlife management from the 106 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: hands of professionals to be placed in the hands of 107 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: the state legislature. That's not made up. That's a real 108 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: lawsuit happening right now. However, the fight to take wildlife 109 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: management away from the public trust is unfortunately a nationwide thing, 110 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: much of which we've covered here on the Weekend Review. 111 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: We also talked, of course, about the Houses Act, the 112 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: most recent and blatant attempt to convert public lands to 113 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: uninterrupted stretches of Utah Strip Mall. So, yeah, some serious talk, 114 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: but I'll still tell you that leaving b h A 115 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: Rendezvous is oddly invigorating. Don't let my cold fool you. 116 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: We can all get wrapped up in the periodicals, the 117 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: news cycles, and conservation can be lonely and sometimes even 118 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: a depressing place. But when you spend three to four 119 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: days amongst the crowd that is largely younger than you 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: are and super passionate about amplifying the benefits of the 121 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: outdoors to the masses, while at the same time wholly 122 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: concerned with the proper conservation of our wild spaces and 123 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: a willingness to teach the ethical stewardship that goes along 124 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: with the land of many uses some periodically crowded trailheads 125 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: your sensitive high alpine terrain. You leave feeling like there 126 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: isn't just blind hope in the future, but an actual 127 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: path forward. I'll see y'all next year, and big thank 128 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: you to all the b h A volunteers and staff 129 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: that made such a great event possible. I'm fired up 130 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: moving on. It's been a while since last Hunter Safety 131 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: round up, and that's a good thing. Hunting is safer 132 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: than it's ever been, but that doesn't mean we should 133 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: get complacent here's a few reasons why. On Saturday, May seven, 134 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: a grandfather took his nine year old grandson turkey hunting 135 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: and Randolph County, North Carolina. The day was uneventful till 136 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: they returned to the car. As the grandfather was loading 137 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: their gear into the back of the vehicle, here had 138 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: a gunshot from the front seat. The child had entered 139 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: the front passenger area of the car and somehow a 140 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: nine millimeter handgun was quote tossed into the back seat. 141 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: The gun went off and struck the child in the head. 142 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: The sheriff's office hasn't said exactly who got to hold 143 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: the gun. So far, they've maintained that the shooting was accidental, 144 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: and they haven't mentioned a third party who was present 145 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: during the incident. The grandfather rested the child to a 146 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: location where he had cell reception and met an ambulance 147 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: on his way to the hospital. As of May nine, 148 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: the child had survived his wounds and was recovering. You 149 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: might not call that incident strictly hunting related, but here's 150 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: one he might call at accident. On Saturday, April thirty, 151 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old turkey hunter named Colton Shoemaker 152 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: was setting up decoys with his girlfriend on some private 153 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: land in West Virginia. While they were doing this, they 154 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: saw sixty eight year old David Haggarty sit down near 155 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: tree not far away, according to court documents obtained by 156 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: Metro News. A short time later, they heard turkeys in 157 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: the area, but they didn't have a chance to go 158 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: after them. Haggardy shot Shoemaker with a two forty three 159 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Winchester rifle. Shoemaker died of his wounds later that day, 160 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: and Haggard he told investigators he thought the twenty eight 161 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: year old was a turkey. So far, Haggard he has 162 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: only been charged with two counts of wanton endangerment with 163 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: a firearm. Both are felony charges, and the West Virginia 164 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: Natural Resources Police say additional charges are likely. In case 165 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: you're wondering, it is legal in West Virginia to hunt 166 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: turkeys with a rifle. In another tragic story, a seventeen 167 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: year old named Caleb laid Holf was shot and killed 168 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: while hunting with friends in Nebraska on Sunday, May one. 169 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: The Hamilton County Sheriff's office has not at least any 170 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: additional details, but Sheriff Jeremy McCoy told the Lincoln Star 171 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: Journal that his office is investigating the incident along with 172 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: the Nebraska State Police. So far, no charges have been filed. 173 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: I'll say it untill I'm blue in the face, a 174 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: right stop reading these stories. If you're gonna bring a 175 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: loaded gun into the woods, it's your responsibility to do 176 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: so safely. That means keeping your finger off the trigger 177 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: until you're ready to fire. It means knowing with one 178 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: certainty what your target is. It means keeping your safety 179 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: on or better yet, not walking around with around in 180 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: the chamber, which is not exactly the easiest thing to 181 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: do in the Turkey Woods. I understand that there's never 182 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: been a safer time and to be a hunter. Don't 183 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: let anyone tell you otherwise, But let stories like these 184 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: motivate you to never let your guard down and always 185 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: always practice safe gun handling in the woods, no matter 186 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: who you're with. Moving on to the turkey desk. On Tuesday, 187 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: April seventeen, a Mississippi man became only the fiftehunter in 188 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: history to earn a US Super Slam by killing a 189 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: turkey and forty nine different states. Chip Davis killed his 190 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: first turkey in Mississippi in the late nineteen eighties and 191 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: he begged his first out of state bird in Missouri. 192 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: Over the next thirty years, he killed the turkey in 193 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: every other state. Some years he only traveled to one state. 194 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Other years he hits several different states, including this year 195 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: when he killed birds in Hawaii, Arizona, Virginia, and West Virginia. 196 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: As you can imagine, Davis had some serious turkey hunting 197 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: wisdom to dispense, and I'll get to that in a minute, 198 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: But what came through most clearly in his interview with 199 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Meat Eater is his deep appreciation for turkeys. Turkeys were 200 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: my mentors, he said. What taught me the little bit 201 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: I know about turkeys his turkeys. For example, Davis has 202 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: worked out seventeen distinct segments of the turkey breeding season. 203 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: When he lands in an area, his first order of 204 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: business is to make sure there are turkeys on the property. 205 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Then he starts trying to pinpoint the breeding season timeline. 206 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: If it's still early, he uses an aggressive calling strategy 207 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: to make gobblers think he's a rival. If the mails 208 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: are already hand up, he uses soft hand calls and 209 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: focuses on getting into a good shooting position. If it's 210 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: late in the season, he ramps up his hand, calling 211 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: to lure in a gobbler who maybe hasn't seen a 212 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: hand in a few days. The road hasn't been easy. 213 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't have access to Davis's bank account, but the 214 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: farm equipment auctioneer doesn't appear to be a millionaire. He 215 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: described the incredible pressure he was under tow bag of 216 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: turkey on each trip, especially when the plane tickets were 217 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: expensive and he only had a few days to hunt. 218 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: He wasn't always successful. He had to visit five states 219 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: twice to bag of turkey, including last year when he 220 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: whipped in both Virginia and West Virginia. But this year 221 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: everything came together. He celebrated his twenty fifth anniversary with 222 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: his wife by taking a trip to Hawaii, where he 223 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: checked that state off the list. Then he flew back 224 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: to Arizona, where he got a turkey on a Native 225 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: American reservation. A few days later, he flew out to 226 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: East Coast, where he ended his journey with a great 227 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: looking gobbler on some private land in West Virginia. You 228 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: can't tell this story without talking about how turkeys and 229 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: turkey hunters and the National Wild Turkey Federation resurrected the 230 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: turkey population in the United States. When the NWTF got 231 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: started in nineteen seventy three, there were only one point 232 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: three million wild turkeys in North America. Today there are 233 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: almost seven million turkeys, and as Davis proved, every state 234 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: except Alaska has a huntable population of birds. The U 235 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: s Super Slam is a relatively new award because only 236 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years has the turkey population been 237 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: healthy enough to support a hunt from coast to coast. 238 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: So congrats, Chip. There won't be many Super Slam winners, 239 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: but I'm hopeful that you won't be the last. Moving 240 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: on to the legislation desk. First up, the Atlantic States 241 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Marine Fisheries Commission has issued the final provisions of Amendment 242 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: seven to their stripe Bass Management Plan. Big thanks to 243 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: all of you who call, the emailed, and testified at 244 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: their spring meeting where they voted on these provisions. More 245 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: than four thousand people weighed in and that effort paid off. 246 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: Although we didn't get every last thing we wanted, Amendment 247 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: seven is now solidly behind recovered stripe bass populations. Even better, 248 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: none of the worst case scenario provisions made it into 249 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: the final plan. As you'll recall from episode one two, 250 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: there are a lot of ins and outs on this issue, 251 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: so we're just going to cover the headlines here. Head 252 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: over to the news section of the back Country Hunters 253 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: and Anglers website for a great deep dive by New 254 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: York and New England chapter coordinator Chris Borgatti. The first 255 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: big headline, Amendment seven now assumes that recruitment will be 256 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: low over the next several years, which means that harvest 257 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: and mortality restrictions will be set at conservative levels. Although 258 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: that will limit take in the short term, it will 259 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: also rebuild the stock more quickly. Amendment seven now also 260 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: requires the board to take aggressive action right a way 261 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: if the upcoming stock assessment in October chose depleted populations. 262 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Rather than going through a year long addendum process, A 263 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: tenure recovery plan will also go into effect within the 264 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: two years if that assessment brings bad news. Efforts to 265 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: reduce mortality from recreational catch and release will be implemented 266 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: as education and outreach programs rather than hard to enforce regulation, 267 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: which conservation organizations were pulling. For one element we didn't 268 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: cover an Episode one fifty two was the concept of 269 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: conservation equivalency or CE. The cliffs Notes version of CEE 270 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: is that it's a way for individual states to come 271 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: up with their own ways to meet harvest thresholds and 272 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: other restrictions separate from the methods that the Board hands down. 273 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: That's fine when it's working well, but over the past 274 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: several years it's become a loophole, and Amendment seven will 275 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: tighten up how conservation equivalency where CE is administered to 276 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: rain in abuse. But the biggest takeaway here, the biggest headline, 277 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: is that getting off your u and making noise for 278 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: what you want makes an enormous difference. The Commission Board 279 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: voted against public opinion on a couple of issues, but 280 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: by and large, when the public lined up for a 281 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: certain option, the board followed that guidance, and therefore we're 282 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: much more likely to have a thriving fishery and kick 283 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: ass days on the water ten years from now. If 284 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: you were one of the people who got involved, all 285 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I can say is thank you. Don't forget to thank 286 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: your commissioners as well. Next up, the Florida Fish and 287 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: Wildlife Commission has changed it's hunting REGs so that you 288 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: may now go after alligators twenty four hours a day, 289 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: up from seventeen hours. Florida alligator season runs from August 290 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: fifteen through November one, So you Sunshine State insomniacs out 291 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: there now have another way to keep yourself busy and 292 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: fill the freezer. The state plans to issue seventy three 293 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: hundred alligator permits this year. So after the bars close, 294 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: head on out to the drainage ditches and coy ponds 295 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: and see what you find. Responsibly, of course, across the country, 296 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: in Wyoming, severe droughts have been very hard on the 297 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: growth of shrubs like sage brush and rabbit brush, and 298 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: the pronghorn and mule deer that feed on those shrubs 299 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: are also headed for a tough time. In response, the 300 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: state has reduced the number of antelope tags it will 301 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: issue by eight thousand and mule deer by thirty three hundred. 302 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: Pronghorn are especially vulnerable to this particular effect of droughts 303 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: because they very seldom drink water from streams and pools 304 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: like other ungulates do. Antelope rather absorb almost all of 305 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: their water from the plants they eat. Will continue to 306 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: track the effects of drought on species across the country. 307 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: In Colorado, the state Senate has passed SB to two 308 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: Dash one six nine, which authorizes state agencies to limit 309 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: access to state records that would give away the location 310 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: of animals and they're breeding or nesting habitat. In recent years, 311 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: more and more hunters have started to use the GPS 312 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: location data of state wildlife agencies to scout game, which 313 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: is honestly no one's idea of fair chase. Color Addams, 314 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: call up Governor Polas and ask him to sign this one, 315 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: And if you live anywhere in the West, call your 316 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: reps and ask them to consider drafting similar legislation. In Delaware, 317 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: HB three seven eight has been introduced in the Health 318 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: and Human Development Committee to implement a fine for anyone 319 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: who's dog or dogs bark for more than fifteen minutes, 320 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: and would oblige all law enforcement, not just animal welfare officers, 321 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: to enforce the law. Although this seems to be targeted 322 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: at city dwellers with noisy neighbors, hound hunters are worried 323 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: that anti hunting groups would use this statute to harass them. 324 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: You first Staters, contact your duly elected to vote against 325 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: HB three seven eight. In New Jersey, Assembly Bill three 326 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: seven three two will increase the minimum legal distance from 327 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: occupied buildings for bow hunters from one fifty feet to 328 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty feet. If you think about the 329 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: hunting that our friend Taylor Chamberlain does from swing sets 330 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: and the d C suburbs, a lot like this would 331 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: end that altogether. That would mean no more of the 332 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: food that suburban hunters provide for themselves and local food pantries, 333 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: and one less check on out of control dear populations. 334 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: A B three three two would also require those hunting 335 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: on private property to notify the landowners of all adjacent 336 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: properties and received back written confirmation, which would also effectively 337 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: and hunting in these areas. Basically everyone lives next to 338 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: at least one cat. Lady garden staters, definitely call your 339 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: reps to vote against a B three seven three two. 340 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: Thank you to Glenn Beckmeyer for writing in on that one. 341 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: In Hawaii, a bill that bans the use of drones 342 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: for fishing is awaiting the signature of Governor David I. 343 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: Gay anglers have been using drones in the low host 344 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: state to carry their bait hundreds of yards out into 345 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: the ocean and drop it exactly where they want it. 346 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: Supporters of the bill, which include the State Department of 347 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: Natural Resources, say the practice harms fish populations and aliters 348 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: the ocean with fishing line. The measure past the House 349 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: and the Senate by large majorities, but has been criticized 350 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: by the fishing community. The Governor has not indicated whether 351 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: he plans to sign it. As of this recording, it 352 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: is still on the Governor's desk. And finally, we're going 353 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: a little farther afield to Rome, Italy. In the four 354 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: millionth example of don't feed the wildlife, picnicking has been 355 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: banned north of Rome to control the spread of African 356 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: swine fever and feral pigs. There. You know how this 357 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: story goes. People offer their bannini crust to the cute pigs. 358 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: They balance their monzarella rappers on top of an overflowing 359 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: garbage can, and the pigs packed together to get that 360 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: food and spread illness in the process. African swine fever 361 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: is a particularly nasty one, as it infects feral swine 362 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: harmlessly but kills almost all domesticated pigs, meaning that its 363 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: hosts can spread it for years at a catastrophic cost 364 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: to agriculture. The Italian government has announced an upcoming culing effort, 365 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: which is likely to run into local opposition, but that's 366 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: the only way to control the spread, and earlier European 367 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: outbreak in the ninety nineties was only stopped when several 368 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: countries adopted very strict eradication programs. Now, I don't think 369 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: this idea will get a lot of traction, but knowing 370 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: how much Italians love their soprasada and pursudo and cured 371 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: meats in general, maybe we can get all those picnickers 372 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: in Rome to make a picnic out of these ferrel picks. 373 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: Then we'd have the problem under control. Pronto, pronto. That's 374 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: all I've got for you this week. Thank you so 375 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: much for listening. Remember, as you're battling from spring thaw 376 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: into summer snowing here currently, you may need a little 377 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: reinforcement courtesy is some clean, quiet, battery operated steel chainsaws, 378 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: leaf blowers, weed whackers, mowers, maybe even a shop back. 379 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Go to www dot steel dealers dot com and find 380 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: a local, knowledgeable steel dealier near you. They'll get you 381 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: set up with what you need, and they won't say 382 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: in your home with what you don't and most importantly, 383 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: right in to a s K C a L. That's 384 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: ask Cal at the meat eater dot com and let 385 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: me know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 386 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: Thanks again and I'll talk to you next week. H