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Speaker 1: Welcome inside final hour tonight the Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 1: my bes friend Mike Harmon. The big hero of the night,

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Speaker 1: not who you thought it was. We got that coming

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Speaker 1: up in about twenty minutes. But we have to talk

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Speaker 1: about al Michaels. Earlier today, an interview went out where

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Speaker 1: al Michaels was asked about his future. Al Michaels is

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Speaker 1: play by play for TNF, the much maligned al Michaels

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Speaker 1: the past couple of years, complaining about the games. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to get excited about these bad games. On

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, which was really a bad misstep by him,

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Speaker 1: but he talked about his future. He said, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to come back next year. It's a two way street,

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Speaker 1: but I'm enjoying and I'm having fun. Michaels is eighty one,

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Speaker 1: and he says, I'm enjoying. I'm having fun doing the

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Speaker 1: game at the kirk kurvetreet on Thursday night. So a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a different tack from these games. These games,

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Speaker 1: these games, well, you know, you learn your lesson, right,

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Speaker 1: We've all been singed one way or another. I think

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Speaker 1: Michael's realizing, oh, oh, I'm not. I don't hold the

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Speaker 1: same sway that I when I was calling games at

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Speaker 1: ESPN and ABC. I'm not the oh al Michaels, who

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Speaker 1: is the greatest play by play guy? And it was

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Speaker 1: I'm sure d Amazon's saying, hey, yeah, we have the

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Speaker 1: games now, We're good, So we don't need you anymore.

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Speaker 1: We don't need you to sell the games anymore. Fast

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Speaker 1: forwarding though, I mean, we've got the Black Friday game,

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Speaker 1: which is the Bears and the Eagles. Yeah, when is

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Speaker 1: he gonna sell me a blender? Well, there's certain things

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Speaker 1: nderstand you have to do during a broadcast, and I

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Speaker 1: get that, do you have to goy? Hey, you know

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Speaker 1: what if you don't like that touchdown by Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: right there, you might like that. All of the top

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Speaker 1: twenty books of the Year right now, are on sale

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Speaker 1: three ninety nine apiece, get him downloaded to your kindle

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Speaker 1: right now. Up to five hundred of them are autographed,

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Speaker 1: various athletes and you know, celebrities all the way through. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want to thriller, Take Wild, Dark Shore, Fantastic, You

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Speaker 1: want a thriller. You want some sort of big time relationship. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you got Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins read all three ninety

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Speaker 1: nine right now? What but he wants to come back? Okay?

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Speaker 1: And it is. Hey, when a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: when they got when they got the rights, it was okay,

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Speaker 1: we need we need gravitas, right, we need, we need something.

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Speaker 1: But now the games are on Amazon. They have a

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Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty well respected pre show with Ryan Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the guys. So okay, so okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: al Michael's not quite the Hey, we have to have

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Speaker 1: al And especially when you see every week there is

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Speaker 1: comment on his play by playability, his performance level, and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like what I saw at the end

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Speaker 1: the top. Berman, what is he doing? I don't understand us,

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Speaker 1: and eventually what happened. You hardly ever see Chris Berman anymore, right,

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Speaker 1: because because the ESPN very conscious social media, they feel

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Speaker 1: Chris Berman. And so so now Berman's on ESPN plus

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Speaker 1: plus whatever it is doing primetime with Booger McFarlane. You

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Speaker 1: it is now, for better or for worse. Companies see

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Speaker 1: something on social media, and when you see it enough,

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Speaker 1: everybody hates him, right, I don't need to see after

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Speaker 1: every Monday night game our booth of Steve Leevy and

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Speaker 1: the biggest plays of the year that we saw tonight. Now,

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Speaker 1: an incredibly exciting play. I mean, it's the play that

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Speaker 1: how they found the space that the past to Palmer

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Speaker 1: exactly how much of that side of the field was

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Speaker 1: Like I can see the film session tomorrow, dude, what

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Speaker 1: say that with a defensive end, right, you got to

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Speaker 1: of the more exciting, most the most exciting plays in

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Speaker 2: The hooking ladder, Baby, you called it forty six yards.

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Speaker 1: Holy smokes. Give the Bills life and maybe Joe Brady

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Speaker 1: gets a head coaching job just for that call. He

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Speaker 1: drops some mike to you, what do you do? We

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Speaker 1: the thing. So there's your call to do it myself.

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Speaker 1: Now you expect the Bills radio network to be excited about.

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Speaker 1: Here's al Michael's call of the exact same play.

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Speaker 3: Four man rush again with a spy and then you

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Speaker 1: Shakir gets the first down, Like you get zero description

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Speaker 1: on what exactly happened on that play? Did he not know?

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Speaker 1: Michael's call one more time, four man.

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Speaker 1: All the way he did things that just let everything

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Speaker 1: I don't have it anymore, and it's time for me

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Speaker 1: Al Michaels has been doing this for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you that as fastball is gone, I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you that it's about his interest level. But

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Speaker 1: Amazon doesn't need us anymore. Okay, even Kirkursey, they don't

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Speaker 1: can you believe al Michael's call? How bad it was? Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not the worst call in the world, but it

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Speaker 1: last year calling games. And I don't know if if

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna work again after this or

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Speaker 1: You want to you want to call your way out

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Speaker 1: like you can and for al Michael's to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a two way street. I want to come back

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Speaker 1: see if they want me. If you have the energy,

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Speaker 1: now not always can you do it? Because you know,

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Speaker 1: everything else? Again, the guy's eighty one, right, so I

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Speaker 1: mean again, But I don't want to say he's lost

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Speaker 1: him when he's interested. Sometimes it could be it's too

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And right now he says, that's the Texans, right,

426
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 1: and clearly they are because how good their defense is? Right,

427
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: three best defenses in the NFL. Texans, Broncos, Rams, and

428
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: the Texans tonight absolutely harassed Josh Allen. I can't every

429
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: single play Allen would get the snap, would take a

430
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 1: three step drop, wouldn't even get his feet settled for

431
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 1: a second before he had to run. They were able

432
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: to their defensive line just overwhelm the Bills offensive line

433
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 1: and harassed him into a night in which he had

434
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Speaker 1: to be which he was seen on the side on

435
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: the Yellen, what the hell are we doing? Yeah, and

436
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 1: which means that Sean mcdermot's going to get fired if

437
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: the Bill season goes south, because that's a real telling

438
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: moment for where the Bills are. Would you like a

439
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: little thing from NFL Plus says to the final stats

440
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: for this huge defense, go ahead, eight zachs, twelve quarterback hits,

441
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: eleven tackles for loss, the two picks, the forest fumble

442
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: on the fumble recovery, twelve quarterback hits, and eleven tackles

443
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: for loss, eleven allow of the So yes, are they

444
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: a team gonna he wants to play. No, and we'll

445
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: get to the big hero in a second. But to

446
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: give them credit because many other NFL teams would acquit

447
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: if you had the season. The Texans had Joe Mixon

448
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: out for the season. We get word today he's not

449
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna play again right now. Joe Mixon says, I don't

450
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: know about that, but we haven't seen him so far.

451
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: We're really going to see in the last four or

452
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: five weeks. The running game is just okay. Fantasy owners

453
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: love Wood. He marks better than he really is between

454
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: him and Chuck Okay, but no Joe Mixon. You start

455
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: out zero to three with a difficult schedule and maybe CJ.

456
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: Stroud isn't quite the talent that you thought he was

457
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: when he was a rookie. Right again, He's like the

458
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: Hunger Games movie trilogy. The first one was really good,

459
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: the second one not quite as good as the first,

460
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: the third one not quite as good as the second.

461
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: Like c J. Stroud is on that sort of a

462
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: path where we've seen his best football and now it's

463
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: the football we've seen since has been well a little

464
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: bit less, a little bit less. Not to derailist too much,

465
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: but did you see the trailer for Anyone?

466
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Speaker 4: Uh?

467
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well it's a different year. You're talking about

468
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: a different, different worldemort shows up. It's all hey, match,

469
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: So you're zero and three, your quarterback doesn't play very

470
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: well and then he gets hurt. Okay, well you know what,

471
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: It's just not our year, right The Colts start out

472
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: like a house of fires, scoring forty points a week.

473
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: It's not our year. Many teams would acquit except and

474
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: I give Demiko Ryans and his coaching staff so much

475
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: credit on this because listen, the jury was out on Ryans.

476
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: Is Ryan's really a great head coach? Or did he

477
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: hit it big very early and has that trouble adjusting,

478
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: but this year keeping them together, especially with that defense

479
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: as good as it bleeping is and how relentless it is.

480
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: Resiliency is the best quality any team can have, because

481
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, you know, we're still gonna come

482
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: back the next week, the next play, the next quarter,

483
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you hell. And that's exactly what

484
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: the text and have done. And now they're six and five.

485
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: They vault themselves right back into the middle of the

486
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Speaker 1: playoff picture. And right now I take them over probably

487
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: five or six teams ahead of them. Yeah, right, Like

488
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: that's how good. I don't know that I would take

489
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: him over the Broncos right now, would I don't know

490
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: that would take him quite over the Colts because the

491
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: Colts offense really puts up a ton of points, but

492
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: almost everybody else. I'd take them over the Pittsburgh Steelers.

493
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: I take them over the Bills after tonight, I take

494
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: them over the Jaguars. Like, there's lots of teams. I

495
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: would say, hey, Texans, right now, that's where they are.

496
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: So I give them so much credit because they could

497
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: have quit. They could have said that's it, we're done,

498
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 1: it's not our year. Let's pack it away and instead

499
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: here they are all kinds of injuries. Still no Tank Dell,

500
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: who you thought was going to turn the NFL on,

501
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: it's here. He can't stay healthy. Nico Collins has been

502
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: a revelation. He's been the only one they're trying to

503
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: young draft picks. And Jayden Higgins finally caught a touchdown tonight.

504
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: They were hoping for big things for him. They got

505
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: a young receiving corps there, but you didn't think you

506
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: were gonna get anything. And now here you are smack

507
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: damn middle playoff contention and that is some kind of achievement.

508
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: Three straight with Is that defense best in terms of

509
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: points allowed per game? Uh? Maybe going to the Jay

510
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: Glazer conversation again, check out the whole thing. Uh, maybe

511
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: the Bill should have signed Mercedes Lewis oh and had

512
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: him as a blocker to try to slow down Anderson

513
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: and everybody. Maybe the Bill should have signed Davis Mills

514
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: oh to bed. It's his time. That is the hero

515
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: of the night when you think about Davis Mills, right,

516
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: these are the most fun stories out there four years ago. Right,

517
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: Just to go back on Davis Mills because I I

518
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: have I have a thing for Davis Mills four years ago.

519
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: One of my best friends've been coaching UH soccer together

520
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: for a long time.

521
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

522
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Speaker 1: He's a big guy in the card industry, like you.

523
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: You and he would get along great. You would talk

524
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: about cards and everything in memorabilia. And he says to me, Hey,

525
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: who's the who's Who's a couple of rookies coming in

526
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: the league this year that you liked it. Maybe I

527
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: can get a lot of their their rookie stuff cheap

528
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: and then I can flip it and make money. And

529
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Speaker 1: I you know who I really like is Davis Mills.

530
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: No one's talking about him, but he had a really

531
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: good college career and he's stepping into a pretty good

532
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: situation with a team that's on the rise. I really

533
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: like Davis Mills. Now, Davis Mills, of course, kind of

534
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: puttered around for a couple of years and then lost

535
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: the job in CJ S. Rodcumes he's been the backup. Yeah,

536
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: but just remember, I mean in that year, you had

537
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks taken in the first three rounds, right, A

538
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: lot of big, heavy hitters. And for those that are

539
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: unaware of the card business, a lot of it becomes

540
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: the do you get the autograph, and that's gotten spliced

541
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: up the way of the licenses are now. But it

542
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: became the all right, people were chasing those top guys,

543
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: which meant you might have been able to get Davis

544
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: Mills because someone was just disappointed of though that quarterbacks.

545
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: So we bought like a hundred bucks in Davis Mills

546
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: cards and everything else, and nothing happened. And to this,

547
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: every time I see him, he says, hey, what do

548
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: you think I could get for Davis Mills autograph? Rookie

549
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: like so for four years now, for years he's been

550
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: he would give me one of those comments all the time.

551
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: After tonight, after that second touchdown, I texted you, I said, hey,

552
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: blank or Blanker, sell some of that Davis Mills stuff now,

553
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: because I know I told him to do what you do,

554
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: which is as soon as the guy makes one good pass,

555
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: you try to sell stuff it well, no, if it's there.

556
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we we watch a marketplace right now,

557
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: so instantaneous through all the different selling you know whatnot

558
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: eBay live, all of those things that people are are

559
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: day trading. If a guy are I'm just suddenly gonna

560
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: become the next big running back wide receiver quarterback. I'm

561
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna know, I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tll everybody. Something

562
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: that you do all the time that I love is

563
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that all somebody has to do right in a game

564
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: is make a big play, right, Jayden Higgins catching his

565
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: touchdown past night Jayde Higgins, you know, touchdown past Davis Mills,

566
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: Jaden Higgins. Right, We're watching the play it happens, and

567
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: Harmon will turn and he does this for so many people.

568
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: He'll turn to me and go, you want to buy

569
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: a rookie Jaden Higgins card from me? Like, no, no, nobody.

570
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: It's implied. It may be implied to buy it from

571
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: somebody else. Sure, like Austin Reeves could hit a three

572
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: his first one of the you want to buy some off?

573
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, how many rookie cards do you have?

574
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: But like so I say that to him all now,

575
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, blank or blanker, Davis Mills tonight man go.

576
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: But the thing about Mills is is that he gave

577
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: the great statement after the game. Hey, because CJ. Stropp

578
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: potentially could be healthy enough to come back and play. Yeah,

579
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: he kind of is the quarterback. It's not quite a

580
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: Brock party mac Jones situation where you would say, man,

581
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: we're getting the same kind of production. We gotta go

582
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: back to brock party now, or we're gonna really look

583
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: bad because mac Jones is gonna continue to do the

584
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: same thing for less money. But what mac Jones and

585
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: Davis Mills have in common now is this mac Jones

586
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more, a little bit more of a run,

587
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: and he was a little bit more, a little bit

588
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: more productive. But right now Davis Mills is three and

589
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: zero in his last three starts. Beating Buffalo, is beating Jacksonville.

590
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Quarterback rating is a little bit above average. Five touchdowns,

591
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: one pick, throwing for any where. Tonight had a lower

592
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: night throwing the football, but still two touchdowns. They won

593
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: the game. He made big, he made some big plays.

594
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: He's somebody that can throw for two to two fifty

595
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: a game, throw a couple of touchdowns. He's not gonna

596
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: go crazy, not quite as dynamic as maybe we saw

597
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: mac Jones be a little bit earlier this season with

598
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco. But what Davis Mills has done is he

599
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: has restarted his career to after this season. Now, Hey,

600
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: mac Jones was the sought after quarterback this offseason, right,

601
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: who's out there free agent wise that you would be

602
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: somewhat excited about signing next year because you need a

603
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: bridge quarterback. Matt Jones is the guy, right, because the

604
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: Niners can't bring him back because if you have Brock,

605
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: Prete's give him the same thing. You got to make sure, Hey,

606
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Brock is our guy and you're paying Brock that kind

607
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: of money. Also, Mac Jones wants a good chance to

608
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: go start because he's proven, Hey, in the right situation,

609
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: with the right system, I can be a really good player. Right,

610
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: And that's all. Did we say this all the time?

611
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: There's a system for every quarterback. With mag he's under contract,

612
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: I have to trade him away something. Yeah, so you

613
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: will be able to. You know, you'll be able to.

614
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: There's a system for everybody. Sometimes it takes a little

615
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: bit to find it, and back Jones took him a

616
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: little bit Definemans here. But now teams like the Jets,

617
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: who I'm sure will get Mac Jones, will give him money.

618
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: They will say, hey, we can go with mac Jones.

619
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: The Steelers, I'm sure we'll be in on mac Jones. Right,

620
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: all these teams. But now Davis Mills potentially has become

621
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: that second guy that we can be in on because hey,

622
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: he would be available. You think, oh, we want to

623
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: keep Davis Mills our backup quarterback. Hey, here's a fourth

624
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: round pick for Davis Mills. Or here's a third round

625
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: pick and you give us a fourth Oh, we'll take that.

626
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: We'll take that because that's an asset, that's a starting

627
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: player for us in the third round, whereas you know,

628
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: for you it's a starting question. So he has played

629
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: himself into that conversation where he can be an answer

630
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: to a team either when or for mac Jones, either

631
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: when the contract is up or via trade. They can

632
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: be those guys. And and that's a big deal. And

633
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: and for to do this just in this three four weeks,

634
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't play again, he has become that

635
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: guy for next year where he's the next bridge quarterback.

636
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: And we've seen Geno Smith do it. We've seen Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold do it. We've seen Baker Mayfield do it. We've

638
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Speaker 1: seen all these guys. Every week goes by, there seems

639
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Speaker 1: to be more and more guys that are doing this

640
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Speaker 1: right today. They were somebody's gold once and now there

641
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: They were terrible for a while, but now maybe they

642
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Speaker 1: found it. Hey, we'll give them a chance again. And

643
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: now Davis Mills has become that guy again. Not as

644
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Speaker 1: high as Mac Jones, but now your pecking order goes

645
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Davis Mills for your bridge quarterbacks to the

646
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Speaker 1: NFL for next year. Quarterback rating this year of about

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Speaker 1: an eighty four, completing about fifty nine percent of his passes,

648
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Speaker 1: five touchdowns against one pick, taking care of the ball,

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Speaker 1: giving you a little bit with his legs as well.

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Speaker 1: To put it in perspective, go back to that twenty

651
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Speaker 1: twenty one draft class that your friend was buying into.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, the aforementioned

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Kyle Trask, Kellen Mond, and Davis Mill. He

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Speaker 1: was aid of need in there in terms of that draft.

655
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Speaker 1: And even go back to the first time he had

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Speaker 1: significant action. He actually put the Texans in position to

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Speaker 1: take the Broncos to overtime. Yeah, but fair Baron missed

658
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Speaker 1: a fifty one yarder. Yeah, so they lose eighteen to fifteen.

659
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Speaker 1: But all of that to say, is he world beating No,

660
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Speaker 1: But you're looking at what they are right now and

661
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Speaker 1: that young receiving corps and a defense that's gonna keep

662
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Speaker 1: you in every game. Tell you, man, it's it's really

663
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Speaker 1: fun to see where quarterback where a quarterback roulette goes,

664
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Speaker 1: where they can suddenly show you, yes, I'm still that player, right,

665
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Speaker 1: Davis Mills coming out a little bit flashed couple of years,

666
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Speaker 1: but same team. You know, obviously the system changes a

667
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Speaker 1: little bit with the quarterbacks, but same team bides his time,

668
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Speaker 1: gets back in a couple of years later. Hey, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: you saw a lot of good things. Davis Mills is

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Speaker 1: in charge of that offense. He is making throws. Is

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Speaker 1: he is stepping into all the throws? He is not,

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Speaker 1: you know, his eyes aren't all over the field like

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Speaker 1: he is making good decisions with the football. It's not

674
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Speaker 1: just I'm defaulting to Nico Collins where every game is.

675
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Speaker 1: Nico Collins has fourteen targets and eight catches, like he's

676
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Speaker 1: spreading the football around. Really impressive re emergence of Christian Kirk.

677
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Help all those Iowa State receivers. You got Dalton Schultz.

678
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Speaker 1: What was interesting to watch as that game war on

679
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Speaker 1: because he started terribly right. He missed a couple of

680
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Speaker 1: big throws early I think to start the game he

681
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Speaker 1: was one for eight, So I mean that's a hell

682
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Speaker 1: of a comeback as they figured things out and adjusted accordingly.

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Speaker 1: Time now to find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 1: world of sports, everybody, it's Monsey Belangos.

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, We'll start with the NFL, where the

686
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: Texans held on to defeat the Bills twenty three to nineteen,

687
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Speaker 5: kicking off Week twelve of the NFL, and Houston's defense

688
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 5: was the story of the game. Josh Allen completed twenty

689
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Speaker 5: five of thirty five passes for two hundred and sixty

690
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Speaker 5: two yards and two interceptions. He was also sacked a

691
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Speaker 5: career high eight times. My fantasy team is not happy. Houston,

692
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Speaker 5: after starting oh and three, has won three in a row,

693
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Speaker 5: and they now improved to six and five, while Buffalo

694
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: falls to seven and four. Other NFL news, Ravens quarterback

695
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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson returned to practice today after missing Wednesday's practice

696
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Speaker 5: with an ankle injury. Colts have added Daniel Jones to

697
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Speaker 5: the injury report with a calf injury, and for a

698
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Speaker 5: second consecutive day, Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow was a full

699
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Speaker 5: participant in practice. When it comes to the NBA, Tyrese

700
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: Maxi put on a show in Milwaukee. He dropped fifty

701
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Speaker 5: four points in the seventy six Ers top the Bucks

702
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 5: one twenty three to one fourteen in overtime. The Grizzlies

703
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Speaker 5: they crushed the Kings one thirty seven to ninety six.

704
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 5: Sacramento has lost eight in a row. Also, their center

705
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Speaker 5: Demonte Sabonis has suffered a partially tor moniscus in his

706
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Speaker 5: left knee, so he's going to be re evaluated in

707
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Speaker 5: three to four weeks. The Clippers, they lost to the

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Speaker 5: Magic one twenty nine to one oh one. La is

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Speaker 5: one in nine in their last ten games. I am

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Speaker 5: not a happy camper. This Spers beat the Hawks one

711
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Speaker 5: thirty five to one twenty six deer Fox at twenty

712
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Speaker 5: six points in the win. When it comes to the NHL,

713
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Speaker 5: the app the Lanche have won seven in a row.

714
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Speaker 5: They topped the Rangers six to three. Alex Ovechkin had

715
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Speaker 5: a hat trick, the thirty third of his career, and

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Speaker 5: the Capitals outscored the Canadians eight to four. The Kings

717
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Speaker 5: and the Sharks went to a shootout. Sharks won at

718
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Speaker 5: four to three, and the Senators. They outscored the Ducks

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Speaker 5: three to two.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, nice a bunch of Monzie great

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Speaker 1: stuff tonight. Yeah. Coming up next we get into a

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Speaker 1: real life sports succession story and without a doubt, the

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Speaker 1: most bonkers banana story of the week. That's next Jason

724
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Speaker 1: and Mike Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live

725
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Speaker 1: editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays

726
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Speaker 1: at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. You have one week,

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Speaker 1: Alex ty Shirt, one week left to play this song

728
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: only if you get Wings next week. I will buy

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00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: Wings on Tuesday. Then it'll be the last week Wings

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday from a deal I struck so long ago

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Speaker 1: with a bad deal, but I'm finally gonna win. We've

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Speaker 1: all struck bad deals in our lives and me. Come on,

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Speaker 1: this is the worst song. You know how I feel?

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00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: This one's missed been long stay because you had no

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Speaker 1: control over an ending. So I said, Okay, when the

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Speaker 1: new season The Stranger Things finally comes out, we don't

737
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: play this song anymore. Tyer said, Okay. Nine years later,

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Speaker 1: we're finally getting the first episode of the season dropping

739
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Speaker 1: the end of next week. You have one week left

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Speaker 1: to play this song before. We never hear it again.

741
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Speaker 1: So you're going into holiday rotation with some of the

742
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Speaker 1: stations because we've already flipped a couple here in Los Angeles,

743
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Speaker 1: which is fantastic. Uh so, but what happened? What? What's

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00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: the song that takes its place though?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: We go back to We wait and find out what

747
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Speaker 1: the new one? Yeah? No, we go back to Goodbye Horses?

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Speaker 1: Do you have to go back to Goodbye Horses? Would

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Speaker 1: I tuck me? We go back to the Buffalo Bill song?

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Speaker 1: I Tuck me good because I just love it. It's

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00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: so jarring to hear it. It really does make you

752
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: pause every time you hear that opening.

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Speaker 3: Do you hear that?

754
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Speaker 5: Go?

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Speaker 1: What? How good this show is? This? They're playing the

756
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill song. It puts the lotion in the basket.

757
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: But considering we had the Buffalo Bills tonight, we probably

758
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: should have played the Buffalo Bill song earlier. Way to go?

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Speaker 1: Tell right, you got it in ahead of the wire.

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Speaker 1: It's been our going out song. At least under the wire.

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Speaker 1: You don't get ahead of the wire. I am the

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Speaker 1: show with it under the Wire under the way, you didn't,

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Speaker 1: and you just played it because I said the song. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying usually I'm the show, okay on tonight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, so real life succession. Forget about the Murdocks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Bus family has been a better real life succession

767
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: because it's just more interesting with all the stuff that's

768
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Speaker 1: gone on the last few years with the family, and

769
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Speaker 1: and who's gonna succeed doctor Jerry Buss and Jeanie Buss

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Speaker 1: has the governor of the Lakers. At our former colleague

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Speaker 1: here at Fox Sports Radio, Jaymore that a Lakers owner right. Uh,

772
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: today you saw this headline the Lakers reorganized their basketball

773
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Speaker 1: operations and fired executives Joey and Jesse Buss from their

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Speaker 1: respective front office positions, effective immediately. Now, folks outside of

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00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Los Angeles didn't know these two guys existed. No, No,

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00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: looks like we were talking about the lesser Debtmer. It does.

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Speaker 1: They're the lesser buses. This is if Koy Detmer had

778
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of other brothers and got fired and none

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00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: of them was tied Detmer. So now, these guys have

780
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Speaker 1: had a pretty good track record, right they They've unearthed

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00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, Alex Caruso, Kyle Kuzmas, and they're a pretty

782
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: good track record. But but these two Bus brothers are out,

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00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: and Jeanie Buss stays as the governess of the Lakers

784
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: while Mark Walter owns the team, and her status holding

785
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: this job is going on now. It's it's till turn

786
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: out that we have no idea when there's an end date,

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Speaker 1: if one has been established. So Joey Buss put out

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Speaker 1: a state Joey Buss and and and Jesse Bus put

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00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: out statements today. And here's where it gets really fun

790
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: is they put on a statement saying how honored they

791
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: were to be part of your organization. But quote, we

792
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: wish things could be different with the way our time

793
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: ended with the team. At times like this, we wish

794
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: we could ask our dad what he would think about it. All.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Buss's idea was for Joey and I to run

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Speaker 1: basketball operations one day, I mean, was it. But Jeanie

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00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: has effectively kept herself in place with her siblings fired.

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Speaker 1: Now I've got someone down the street from me that

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Speaker 1: advertises that they can help you communicate with those in

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Speaker 1: the great beyond. They accept all sorts of forums of payment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's fell out with Johnny and Jim, her

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Speaker 1: other brothers. In twenty seventeen, after Jim got removed as

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00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: president of basketball operations and got replaced by Magic Johnson,

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00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: they tried to let the new border directors and that

805
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And now here's the two younger brothers who

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Speaker 1: have been fired. This is Sarah Snook winning at the end,

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00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: at the end of success. Yeah. I mean there's six

808
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Speaker 1: siblings and they say it was a four to two vote.

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Speaker 1: And these are the two guys that were on the

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00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: opposite side because they had visions of eventually running things

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Speaker 1: beyond being the alternate governor and president of research and

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Speaker 1: development and an assistant general manager. Now here's where things get.

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Speaker 1: You want you want, you want a big takeaway from this,

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00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: and just think about this. So the Lakers, Lakers, Cowboys, Nicks, Yankees, Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: probably the five biggest franchises of the guys, yes, right,

816
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: five biggest franchise in North American sports. Unbelievably popular, unbelievable,

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00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: full of heritage and history and the value of these teams.

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00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Doctor Buss died in twenty thirteen. Twelve years after he died,

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00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: the family had to sell the team. You talk about

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00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: dysfunction and and something that sounds unforgivable. Twelve years, not

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Speaker 1: thirty years, not forty years. Twelve years after he died,

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Speaker 1: the the siblings can't get along, they can't figure things out.

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00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: The team is not closer to winning championships. The mom

824
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: and pop operation, their way of doing things is so

825
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: out of date. They had to sell the team. Twelve

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Speaker 1: years after doctor Buss died. The kids couldn't keep together enough,

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Speaker 1: and they had to sell the Lakers. This is not

828
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: we had to sell the Bucks or we had to

829
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Speaker 1: sell the Rays. We had to sell They had to

830
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Speaker 1: sell the Lakers. Can you imagine, Jerry Jones that you

831
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: have family step and I can't get you. We gotta

832
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: sell the Cowboys. We gotta sell the Yankees out of

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Speaker 1: the steinbrennerfro. I gotta sell the Yankees, gotta do I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what this is. Twelve years after he died, they

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Speaker 1: had to sell the Lakers. If that's just it, you

836
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: couldn't come to an agreement within the six of you

837
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Speaker 1: as to all right, you take your part and go

838
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: off into the sunset, and the rest of us move on.

839
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Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be happy, go lucky, right, You're always

840
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: gonna have contention and people want titles and power and

841
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: whatever else. But the fact that you had to get

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00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: to this endgame just really sad. Yeah, I mean you

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00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: think about it. That's what they that's what they had

844
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Speaker 1: in twelve years, A million dollars they had to sell it.

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Speaker 1: Exit about a Fresco exit. Swollen dumb, goodbye horses again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Alexy shirt, my buddy Ben Mallar coming up next. This

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Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Radio three. Mister Lower a telephone