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Speaker 1: It's going on. Everybody, Welcome into this Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texas All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst,

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Speaker 1: Sideline reporter. Mark's gonna join me and take over here

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Speaker 1: in just a little bit. We're gonna talk a lot

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Speaker 1: about OTAs. We've got Stephen Nelson the show. We got

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Speaker 1: a little bit with Davis Mills right off the top.

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Speaker 1: But this show we do tonight is coming with very heavy,

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Speaker 1: heavy hearts for our people over in Uvaldi, Texas dealing

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Speaker 1: with another tragedy, unspeakable tragedy. And I know we speak

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Speaker 1: for everybody in the Texas family when we send our

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Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers and well wishes and everything that we've

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Speaker 1: got out to that great city out in Uvaldi. Just

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Speaker 1: an unspeakable tragedy that took place today. And we have

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Speaker 1: always pride ourselves on this show. Sorry, we talk about football,

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Speaker 1: that's what we do. In some sense, we do it

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Speaker 1: as an escape. Sometimes you can't escape real life. And

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that this has become real life here, uh

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Speaker 1: in you know, not only in you've aaldi, but in

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Speaker 1: the United States and the OC where my family has

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Speaker 1: been um just everywhere where we have seen unspeakable tragedies

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Speaker 1: and lives lost, and to those that have perished today

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Speaker 1: and you've all, the Texans family is with you and

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Speaker 1: thoughts are with you at this particular time now. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, this show has always been an escape. We

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Speaker 1: talk about football. OTA's started today and that's what we

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Speaker 1: are going to try and focus on as much as

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Speaker 1: we can. We're not a news group. We can't bring

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Speaker 1: you anymore news that goes with it, but we just

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Speaker 1: wanted for everybody to know where our thoughts were as

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Speaker 1: we do this show this evening. So we love you,

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Speaker 1: you've all and everybody there um and all the families

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Speaker 1: that have suffered and speakable tragedy. That said, there's no

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Speaker 1: easy segue into talking about football, but that is what

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Speaker 1: Mark and I do, and obviously out of OTAs we

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Speaker 1: talked about it last night a little bit what our

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Speaker 1: eyes were gonna be going towards and of course mine

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Speaker 1: went immediately to the trenches and I you know, I

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Speaker 1: talked last night about how much juice does Jerry Hughes

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Speaker 1: do Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison have and watching fifty

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Speaker 1: five Jerry Hughes, Yeah, he's got some juice left there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean just watching him move like, whoa boy,

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Speaker 1: he's got some he's still got some juice coming off

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Speaker 1: the football, and that's gonna be that's gonna be fun

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Speaker 1: if he can channel that for seventeen weeks this year.

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Speaker 1: But I walked out of there and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people watching the seven on seven stuff and watching quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: store I was now watching the offensive line because I

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Speaker 1: just that's just the way I'm wired. And I said

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Speaker 1: it Teither you were to Drew about this defensive line.

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Speaker 1: There's seventeen guys on this defensive line, seventeen A. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the most difficult cut and be when all

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Speaker 1: setting down, that group is going to be. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be better than anybody thinks. They've got a

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Speaker 1: good relation plan. Listen to me, like they know what

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Speaker 1: they're going to be doing opening day. I should be specific.

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Speaker 1: They've got some good ideas on how to handle this group.

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Speaker 1: And I think everybody has their role, and some guys

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Speaker 1: can play multiple roles. They have a lot of bodies,

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Speaker 1: like you said, seventeen bodies, and I'm eager to see

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Speaker 1: what kind of pressure they can get on people. After

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Speaker 1: what we saw last year with players that weren't exactly

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Speaker 1: household names making plays as the season war on, you

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Speaker 1: had to use basically everybody at all those games where

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Speaker 1: you guys hurt or COVID or whatever. So you saw

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Speaker 1: that last year, So let's see what you can do

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Speaker 1: this year. Well, I think to that end mark the

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Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule. You know, we talked to coach last

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Speaker 1: year about it. We talked to love you, but we

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Speaker 1: talked to everybody about We talked to Nick about it.

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Speaker 1: And football guys will be like, man, look it's another game.

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Speaker 1: At least publicly, Man, it's another game. It's just another week.

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Speaker 1: It's that much more difficult to take a fifty three

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Speaker 1: roster pretty much be even close to what you have

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Right, It's just not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. You're not. When I was going through and

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Speaker 1: Like oh, there were very few guys that as I

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Speaker 1: It's just it's not gonna happen. Your depth is now

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Speaker 1: so much more important than it's ever been to go

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Speaker 1: through this marathon. Yeah, because you know, look, you look

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Speaker 1: better have a ton of depth. And this time of

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Speaker 1: year was close to ninety bodies, you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of different players to look at. Everybody was looking at

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills today. You and I had a reef talk

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Speaker 1: with him. I might have to practice. It's been great.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've had a really good number in

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Speaker 1: built this offseason. We're obviously showing up and ready to

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Speaker 1: roll into these OTAs. So it's been exciting. Three hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty five days ago, you get drafted you're here,

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Speaker 1: you're going through your first OTAs. How different are you

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Speaker 1: as a player to quarterback than what you were a

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Speaker 1: year ago at this time? Very different. I mean I

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Speaker 1: like to think of myself is that really complected, confident player.

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Speaker 1: But when you're getting thrown into it for the first time,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of uncertainty that you have to face,

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Speaker 1: and as you're learning the offense for the first time

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Speaker 1: it's just a new feeling. But coming back and doing

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Speaker 1: it this year, it's exciting to be back and kind

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Speaker 1: of have this experience under my belt before and really

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Speaker 1: this year you're able to just go through things a

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Speaker 1: We'll get you more of that Mills interview later on

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Speaker 1: in the week and later on in the show. Here today,

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Speaker 1: Steve Nelson, new corner for your Houston Texans. Interesting guy.

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty's gonna catch up with him. We'll have more

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Speaker 1: likely to happen, but we've got a lot to get

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Speaker 1: to here. As far as what we saw with Ota

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Speaker 1: practice and Johnny Love, He's right, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: overreact to things this time of year. But I always

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Speaker 1: offensive crispness, that's a really good sign, because I have

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Speaker 1: I about to compare. This looks so much better than that,

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Speaker 1: so much better than that. And that was year three

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Speaker 1: of that coach's era, you know, and granted, breaking in

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback and all of that, but here you

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Speaker 1: I mean, the ball's there, you know, he has some

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Speaker 1: some really nice throws today by Davis Mills in company.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were really doing a nice job. Love

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Speaker 1: Cooks obviously having a really good practice. Brandon Cooks, alrighty,

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Speaker 1: it's only May and OTAs and Brandon Cooks had one

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Speaker 1: of those practices like yes, I'm the alpha dog receiver

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Speaker 1: mean that there aren't other talented players. Nico had some

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Speaker 1: nice grabs today. I don't want to lose track of

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Speaker 1: anybody here, but it was one of those everybody contributes

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Speaker 1: the things that we talked about last night that we

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Speaker 1: both would be looking at was, of course, a second

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Speaker 1: much more comfortable does he feel? This is an offense

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Speaker 1: that's gonna have verbiage that he's familiar with stemming from

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Speaker 1: his time with Stanford. Being at Stanford, is gonna be

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Speaker 1: some things he recognizes. And at that point, because he

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Speaker 1: the way they're hearing it, they heard it in a

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Speaker 1: different way before all that. Davis has got to be

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Speaker 1: that guy that's got to bring that message to everybody else.

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Speaker 1: How in charge is he at the line of scrimmage?

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Speaker 1: I felt like I was watching a guy that was

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Speaker 1: very much in control, that was very much no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff that's going on that Davis instead of

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Speaker 1: that a game seemed slower for Davis today, and we

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Speaker 1: more in command. Games slowed down for him, and now

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Speaker 1: guys that are around him every day. But you talked

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Speaker 1: about the pass catchers, Ju and I talked about that

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Speaker 1: our podcast page and get that. Well, we talked about

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Speaker 1: filth or set and it's one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to forget about. But it's

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Speaker 1: the old adage you can't coach speed. However, as a coach,

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Speaker 1: to say, my guy is gonna run right by your guy,

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Speaker 1: or he's gonna run a good route and run it fast.

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Speaker 1: He had some nice routes that were sort of semi

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Speaker 1: finding some success. And as I say finding some success,

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Speaker 1: you want to see your defense make some plays as well.

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Speaker 1: The thing about this time of year, you can't really

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Speaker 1: a real game, right and the offensive line can't really

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Speaker 1: play full out the way they would in a game.

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Speaker 1: So you're just looking for some proficiency in the passing game,

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Speaker 1: particularly seven on seven. But in full team I saw

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Speaker 1: completions in full team practice today that I might not

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Speaker 1: seen him play. You know the guy, and he knows

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Speaker 1: your system well because he spent the offseason with PEP,

428
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 1: and PEP system is a little bit different than what

429
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: we saw last year. And that could be a very

430
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: good thing. And that's why it's a good thing. And

431
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Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, you still have two ones next

432
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Speaker 1: year and two ones the year after that. Calm down, everybody,

433
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Speaker 1: I'm done. Make sure you don't say what I told

434
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Speaker 1: you off the air. Just don't say that, because like

435
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,239
Speaker 1: I said about players draft in the third round, you

436
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 1: asked me about the running game and how do you

437
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Speaker 1: evaluate it, and it you know, it's tough to evaluate

438
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Speaker 1: the run game, even when pads go on. I mean

439
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: sometimes that's that's even tough because you don't see guys

440
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,239
Speaker 1: break tackles. Sometimes the whistle is blown as soon as

441
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Speaker 1: they get through the line of scrimmage. But I want

442
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: to see how much juice guys have from the time

443
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: that ball is snapped, they take it and they get

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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and beyond. And there are

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Speaker 1: a couple of dudes that were carrying football today that

446
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: had some serious juice, serious juice. And maybe not the

447
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: guys you're thinking of, but they had some serious juice.

448
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Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example. Darius Anderson, his nickname

449
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: is Jet for a reason. And George Ranch he was

450
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Speaker 1: amazing TCU. He was I don't say the change up back,

451
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: but they had a big dude, and then they had Anderson.

452
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Speaker 1: And so Anderson was kind of the well, he's got

453
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Speaker 1: the speed. He's kind of our speed demon. So we're

454
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna get him the ball out in space and do

455
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Speaker 1: what we can. When Jet's got the ball in his hands,

456
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Speaker 1: oh boy, I mean it's there's some electric movement because

457
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Speaker 1: he can just jet his just like his nickname. His

458
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Speaker 1: nickname is Jet. Now can he being effective in between

459
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Speaker 1: the tackles? Runner? And he could prove that during preseason.

460
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Speaker 1: I don't know but I know when guys were getting

461
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Speaker 1: the football as in the run game today, there was

462
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Speaker 1: no hesitation, There was no slowness to the line of scrimmage,

463
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Speaker 1: especially for a couple of guys. And I really like

464
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Speaker 1: watching Damian Pierce. I really like watching him and the

465
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Speaker 1: body language, the way is in the huddle, the way

466
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Speaker 1: is with his teammates, the whole packet. He was joking

467
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Speaker 1: with Zach, our photographer. Zach was kind of standing off

468
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Speaker 1: to the side trying to take pictures. He was even

469
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Speaker 1: joking with Zach to get off the field so they

470
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Speaker 1: can run some plays and such. So he's got a

471
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Speaker 1: great personality and he'll be fun. But that personality, um is,

472
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Speaker 1: is quirky and fun as long as he's running a

473
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Speaker 1: ball for four and a half yards per carry. If

474
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Speaker 1: he's on the shelf injured, then that personality is grading

475
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: and um frustrating for the fans. So it stays on

476
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: the field rushes for four plus yards per carry, well, perky.

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Speaker 1: What would Bull Durham say, if you're winning twenty games

478
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Speaker 1: in the show, you can go shower in your show,

479
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: grow fungus on your shower shoes and you'll be a

480
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: clectic right lose twenty in the show and you'll just

481
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Speaker 1: be a slob. That is so Bull Durham is filled

482
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: with great quotes and life lessons. Yes, I gotta show

483
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: it to Vander Kid. Yes, at least lots of parts

484
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: of it, not necessarily you can take out. Yeah, yeah,

485
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: because I watched it. You know, you see it a

486
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Speaker 1: lot on over the air type networks or rather you know,

487
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Speaker 1: commercial with with a lot of the ads and everything

488
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Speaker 1: and edited slightly. If you watch Bull Durham uncut, there

489
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Speaker 1: are some scenes interesting. Okay, anyway, a couple of other

490
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: things about OTA's love, seeing what the running backs did,

491
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Speaker 1: like you pointed out, Oh one more thing on Pierce.

492
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: You heard what Nick Assario's answer was when Sean and

493
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: Seth asked him about Pierce and comparing him slightly to

494
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Speaker 1: mark Ingram personality wise or whatever. And Nick was really

495
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: not having it. And I think he took it to be, hey,

496
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Speaker 1: we're not going to compare a rookies personality to a

497
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Speaker 1: veteran who's got some pelts here as an NFL player,

498
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Speaker 1: even though it's just a personality question, which I found interesting.

499
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Speaker 1: And you're right, Johnny, you that's a football guy answer.

500
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 1: It is personalities. Personalities great, and they probably love his personality,

501
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: but you're right, you got to back it up. Not

502
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: that he can't, he'll just get the chance to prove

503
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Speaker 1: it this time of year, and a lot of people.

504
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: I haven't heard all the shows all day and everything

505
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Speaker 1: and the interpretations and seeing all the tweets, but I

506
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Speaker 1: would imagine a lot of people are over interpreting where

507
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Speaker 1: the rookies are lined up, or what group they're in

508
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. This is. May and the cream will float

509
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: to the times stop, yes, say, the cream will float

510
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: to the top. Camp will sort everything out and you'll

511
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: see how this thing breaks down. Now, coming up, positive story,

512
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: very positive story broke this morning in the NFL. We'll

513
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: share that with you also, Steve Nelson coming up Texans

514
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: Corner with Drew Doherty. You don't want to miss that

515
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. Texans Radio, Texans Radio, Texans Radio.

516
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: Mark Vadimaron, John Harris with you on Texans All Access.

517
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: And as Johnny said at the top of the show,

518
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: we're doing the show with heavy hearts tonight with what

519
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: has happened with our neighbors in Uvaldi, with the mass

520
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: shooting today and so many thoughts and so many prayers

521
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: and so many things to say, but really not the

522
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Speaker 1: space here to do it. But just to let everyone

523
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Speaker 1: in the San Antonio area know Uvalde area, everyone connected

524
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: with that and not connected with that, that we are

525
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: thinking about that an awful lot. And let's get on

526
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Speaker 1: with the rest of the program here and you know,

527
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: try to bring some positive news. I know it's sports,

528
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: it's a completely different front, completely different context, but that's

529
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Speaker 1: what we do here on the program. Anyway, positive NFL

530
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: story today, you know which one I'm thinking about? Yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis staying as a combined host for twenty twenty four.

532
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: And our buddy Sean Pendergast retweeted what Ian Rappaport had

533
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: tweeted out, and he's like, I don't get this one, Okay,

534
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: I get your I understand Seannie. He was He was like,

535
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: why do people care? Why do they care? Because it's

536
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: our house. Yeah, Sean, it's the it's the house we

537
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: rent every December. In February we go to the same one.

538
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: We know where everything is in the dark. We can

539
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: get from our bed to the bathroom and not have

540
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: to worry about what's in the way. Some people are

541
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: taking you literally right now by the way, which you know,

542
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: at the Greenbrier. I rented the same house, which sounds

543
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: better than it was, Like this is a one hundred

544
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: year old place in the downtown area of White Silver Springs.

545
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: That wasn't that nice, but I loved it. But anyway,

546
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Indie is the place that we're very comfortable with. The

547
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: league is comfortable the medical stuff. It's a working thing,

548
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: the combine. That's why I thought you can't just send

549
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: it to Vegas and say have at it. Guys. There's

550
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it, and I think they

551
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: like it that there aren't too many distractions as far

552
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: as there aren't too many fans. I honestly believe that

553
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: they do like that, that it's not overridden with fans. Again,

554
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: a ton of media coverage out there, and we said,

555
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: our whole crew and a lot of people do, but

556
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: you don't have a ton of fans as a major

557
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: distraction to what needs to be accomplished there. But we

558
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: all sort of live in the same neighborhood though, you know,

559
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean we might be down at the end of

560
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: the street, you know, in the one story where they're

561
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, down the street in the in the mega mansion.

562
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: But we're at least in the neighborhoods at least see us,

563
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, when they're leaving in, Hey Joey, Hey Johnny

564
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: and all. So at least the neighborhood you bring fans in,

565
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: it knows where they're coming from. I mean, they're they're

566
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: from the you know, a different county. It's like, why

567
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: would you don't want the different county coming into your neighborhood,

568
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: right right, It's that kind of thing. But using your

569
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: white sulfur springs analogy, yes, you did stay in the

570
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Speaker 1: same house. I could see where some people were saying,

571
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: what if we upgraded the house. Yeah, maybe it'd be better,

572
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: And maybe you just need a year or two to

573
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: get over it. Yeah maybe, But I don't know. I'm

574
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: all the infrastructure, and I am very set in my

575
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: ways when it comes especially to the combine, and I

576
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: like Indianapolis. It's not just about getting people in a

577
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: stadium to watch these workouts. That's a very small part

578
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: of it. To the team, that's the smallest. It's true.

579
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: It's true, you're right, And to the league that's the

580
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: most marketable thing, because to the teams, the most important

581
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: thing is the medical information you get out of there.

582
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: They would have to have probably a separate medical combine,

583
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: and they don't want to make the guys up to

584
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: fly to two different places if they did it in Vegas,

585
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: for instance. But it's the medical information they get and

586
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: the interviews and just being around. They might not say

587
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: this out loud, maybe they will, but it's a convention

588
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: and it's a chance for everybody to get reacquainted with

589
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: each other. It's a chance for gems and agents to

590
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: talk right and have some preliminary conversations. Nothing official, of

591
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: course until the legal tampering here, but you know what

592
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just to sort of touch base on things

593
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: and touch base with other people around the league. So

594
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: I think it's good that they're leaving it there. That's awesome.

595
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Next positive story, the Pro Bowl might be going away.

596
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Might be going away. I don't like that. I actually

597
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: think the Pro Bowl, if you played it as thud,

598
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: which it kind of is now anyway, it's not the

599
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: most entertaining thing in the world. But I think you

600
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: should still play it. But here's what I think, Johnny,

601
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: You've got to get this thing back to Hawaii somehow.

602
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: You need to put the Pro Bowl in Hawaii for

603
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: the very simple reason of that's how you're going to

604
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: get the best players to want to play. They love

605
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: going to Hawaii. Hawaii still is a mystique and allure

606
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: to it. And they are renovating Aloha Stadium starting in

607
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. That means by the time you and

608
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: I are you know fully retired and an assistance home,

609
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: then we can have the Pro Bowl back in Hawaii.

610
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: Guess I don't know. You take NFL honors in a

611
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl week and you move it out the Hawaii

612
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: and it's a reward. It's a reward for the players

613
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: for the season. Yes, asked me the last time I

614
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: watched the Pro Bowl? When was the last time you

615
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: watched the Pro Bowl? Before I got in the building.

616
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: I have not watched it since. I would watch snippets

617
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: of hops, snip snippets and a couple of times, and

618
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: it's tough live. I can't watch it. I can't, I

619
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: can't watch it. It's like I mean watching, I mean,

620
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I'm watching. Maybe he should

621
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Speaker 1: just make it a festival and do it all in

622
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Speaker 1: a way, That's what I'm saying. There's something there there's

623
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: gotta be some I saw. I think it was Ocho

624
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Cinco who brought up the concept of bringing back some

625
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: of the some of the ogs, guys that have been

626
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl, you know, uh that you know,

627
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: retired from the game, bring them out there. I think

628
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: there's I think you can make it a sort of

629
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: NFL season celebration. Yeah, and therefore, you know, you know,

630
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: guys they get voted to the Pro Bowl. I mean,

631
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: I know they have it in their contract whatever, you know,

632
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: but NFL offers them, you know, Hunter Grand They're up

633
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: there for the whole week. Um, you know they you know,

634
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: NFL picks up everything. They have events. You know, maybe

635
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: they do some sort of community event in Hawaii. But

636
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: you're right, it's got it. The only way you're gonna

637
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: get the only way you're gonna get players is, hey,

638
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: this thing is in Hawaii. They're not gonna go to Orlando.

639
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: They'll flock to Hawaii. And you do NFL honors in

640
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Hawaii full attendants. They do not know who the MVP

641
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: is the week before as opposed to the night before,

642
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: because you don't bring it, you don't bring in the

643
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: playoffs into I'd like i'd like the Pro Bowl when

644
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: it was after the Super Bowl too, so maybe they

645
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: can solve that one. I did like those stories today

646
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: and we'll see what they do with the Pro Bowl.

647
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: By the way, University of Hawaii, you pointed this out

648
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: to me. They are playing in a new stadium, but

649
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of small. Yeah, it's a smaller it's a college.

650
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: It's not NFL worthy and Aloha Stadium has been condemned,

651
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: so they really need to have a new one anyway,

652
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: so it has It's bad. It was such terrible, such

653
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: a dump, but there was a lot of history there.

654
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: But it was a Hawaiian which is totally totally different.

655
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: You know what. It reminded me of the Orange Bowl

656
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: and a little bit Joby was your dump. It was

657
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: my dump and a little bit of a stadios Deca. Okay.

658
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: When we were in there, it's like I got a

659
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: little Aloha Stadium vibe from this place and La Coliseum,

660
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: just old West Coast kind of thing. I know, Mexico

661
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: City is different, but that's the vibe I got from

662
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: a stadio as deca. Despite the improvements that they did,

663
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: they need to keep improving it for more league success there. Eventually,

664
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: the Texans will go back to Mexico City and play

665
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: a game, because that's sort of an unofficial or an

666
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: official actually home away from home for the Houston Texans.

667
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: But that was pretty cool. I've got it more likely

668
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: to happen. We're going to do it later in the week.

669
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Here coming up, Steven Nelson, let's hear from him, defense

670
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: him back for your Houston Texans. Want to hear what

671
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: he has to say Withdrew Doherty. Some interesting off field

672
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: stuff from him as well. Coming up here on Texans

673
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: All Access. It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermer, John Harris with you.

674
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Add at the practice field today following the OTA session.

675
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: Drew Doherty. You know, he's back at it with Drew's

676
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: dozen out on the field and he visited with new

677
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: Texans defensive back Stephen Nelson. Stephen, welcome to Houston. Glad

678
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: you're here. It's good to see you. Tell me about

679
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: You're farming man, My farming man. It's it's one of

680
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: those things where it's therapeutic for me. Um. You know,

681
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: me and my wife's pretty much we had an idea

682
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: back when were in Arizona. It was like, man, we

683
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: need you know, we need some more space. So that's

684
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: what we did, you know about you know, a lot

685
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: of land north of Houston pretty much, and uh, you know,

686
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: we gotta start a whole little you know, agriculture livestock farm,

687
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: you know. So it's real good to get the kids out,

688
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: you know and just enjoy the outdoors. I'm sure you

689
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: love all the animals and you don't want to play favorites.

690
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: But of the animals, what's what's your favorite type of

691
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: animal to deal with livestock wise? Livestock, I'll probably say

692
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: my goats. Um, my goats are pretty cool, man, They're

693
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: very smart, uh people. Some people compare them to dogs,

694
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: like you can remember their names, you know, and stuff

695
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: like that, which is pretty cool. But I would have

696
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: to say my favorite animals probably my peacocks. Really, how

697
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: many you got too? Yeah? When they peacock out is

698
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: it just like the greatest thing ever. It's the great

699
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: it's the greatest thing. But it also can get a

700
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: little annoying because they do them at random hours and

701
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: you never know really why, you know what I mean.

702
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: But they're really good, you know, just for you know,

703
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: farming and stuff like that, to keep the snakes away

704
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But beautiful creatures, peacocks keep the

705
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: snakes away. Maybe you knew that. I didn't know that.

706
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: So we're learning here on Drews. Does I appreciate that?

707
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: That's good to know. Okay, let's go a little further up.

708
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: What's your current superpower? My current superpower? Um? Probably the

709
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: ability to read people. I don't know that what you

710
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: would call that? What you call that? Uh, pret the

711
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: ability to read people? Oh yeah, ability to read people? Right? So,

712
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: I don't know, I kind of I'm not gonna say

713
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: like judge, you know, that's kind of a hard hard word,

714
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: but just read people, you know, body language and stuff

715
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: like that. What are you reading for me right now?

716
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: Really cool? Guys interested to get to know me? You know,

717
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: really cool you guys hear that. I don't hear that often,

718
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: So thank you for Okay, what's the superpower you wish

719
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: you could have? Any superpower? Any superpower? UM? I mean

720
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: probably the ability to kind of breathe under water. It's

721
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: a good one. Look at your kniqule man Aquaman. Yeah,

722
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 1: I just watched a movie, so you know, I thought

723
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool, you know, kind of mingle with

724
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: the fish, Mingle with the fish. Okay, with all that

725
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: in mind and knowing that you you're a bit of

726
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: a farmer. Now you got to you gotta go to

727
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: dish that you can cook. Go to dish, um, go

728
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: to dish. Oh I'm a pasta guy, so kind of

729
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: like an Italian sausage type of dish. You know what

730
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, little spice, herbs from the garden, you know

731
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: what I mean, a little partiley in. They're a little

732
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: bit basil, you know, rest with getty sauce. My type

733
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: of guy. I had Italian sausage and pasta on Sunday night.

734
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: So this is good stuff where we're going here. Okay,

735
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: first concert you ever attended, First concert ever attended? Um

736
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: haw had it been like a maybe future future? It

737
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: was future and Chris Brown actually together. That's a pretty

738
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: good first concert. Oh yeah, it was crazy down in

739
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: uh in Vegas. You know, so you know, got a

740
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: little you know, things involved, you know what I mean.

741
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: So had a good time. We had a good time,

742
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: things involved. Don't know what that means. Okay, Hey, you're fast, dude.

743
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Let's say you're on the four by one hundred team

744
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: and it's only Texans you're on it. Who are the

745
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: other three guys on it with you other three guys. Man,

746
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: gotta go up my guy Cooks and been around him

747
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: for a while. Gotta go with door set, be playing

748
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: against him for a while, and a third guy. I

749
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: gotta bring somebody else along on defense. Let me see, man, God,

750
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: you balanced it out. You're obviously defensive back. You've got

751
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: two defensive to offense. Philip Dors said, you got Cooks,

752
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: you got brand of coons Um, two receivers. So who's

753
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: the defensive guy. I'm probably gonna go with jo I

754
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: think he can run a little bit. Jonathan Owens, Yeah,

755
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: I think you can run a little bit. For right now,

756
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: I haven't too much seen the rookies, you know, but

757
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: I know down the line we'll get to see them.

758
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: You're reserving the right to add a rookie at a

759
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: later day. Maybe pump one of those guys. Yeah, yeah,

760
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, they gotta earn it. Tell me a little

761
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: bit more about Cooks. You brought him up. You guys

762
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: played for a season together twenty thirteen at Oregon State.

763
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: That's gotta be kind of nice coming back to the

764
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: team and knowing some an old familiar face. Yeah, you know,

765
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: cook has always been one of those guys has been

766
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: in my corner since I got to Oregon State. Um Man,

767
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: that guy, we worked hard against each other in practice.

768
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: Um kind of showed me the way of you know,

769
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: showed me how to be a pro early. You know,

770
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: He's always kind of had that ability to kind of

771
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: influence people with his work ethic. Um. So you know,

772
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: just you know, being around him, you know, being back

773
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: in the building kind of brings back some old memories.

774
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself doing that? I mean you've been

775
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: around the league for a little bit now, do you

776
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: find yourself kind of imparting a bit of knowledge wisdom

777
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: on some of the younger guys? Most definitely, Man Um,

778
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, any type of advice that I can always

779
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: give on the field, off the field. You know, these

780
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: guys come in with a million questions, you know, and

781
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: I've obviously been through you know a majority of the

782
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: things that they ask about. You know, just you know,

783
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 1: more of you know, just being a big brother type

784
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: of figure to him and you know, just trying to

785
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: help him out. Speaking of advice, football advice, non football advice,

786
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: what's the worst advice you've ever been given? You remember that, Man,

787
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna I ain't gonna say no name, putting

788
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: nobody on the spot, man, But worst advice I believe

789
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: you had to be my rookie year and we had

790
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: some older guys and man, they were always just going

791
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: out party and they tricked me one night and we

792
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: had like a I don't know, nine am practice in

793
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: the morning and it was like, yeah, Steve, come out,

794
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: We're just gonna have a dinner. And then next thing,

795
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, dinner turned into this turned into an after

796
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: party and I just went to work so then and

797
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: just exhausted. Bro. So that's the worst advice. Ie. You

798
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: needed a rest rest man. You know, I don't know

799
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: how they was able to do it, but if I

800
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: can give the rookie's advice, get your rest, get your rested.

801
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: That probably applies to you know, non football players too. Body.

802
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: Everybody got to be at your best. All right, let's

803
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: wrap this up. Who would you want or which actor

804
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: would you want to play you if there was a

805
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: movie about your life? Which actor? Um, I'd probably say,

806
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: uh itres what's his name? Just sugar Belt from the Wire. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: he plays the numerous roles and I feel like, you know,

808
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: he can kind of we don't look alike. I'm not

809
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: saying that, but I think he can kind of play

810
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: the role, you know what I mean. If I gave

811
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: him a script, yeah, i'd have Brad Pitt played me.

812
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't like Brad Pitt. Yeah yeah, you know, just

813
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: you ask the question. You know, obviously I like him

814
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: and I think he can get it done. Who's the

815
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: person not related to you that inspires you or has

816
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: inspired you the most? Not related to me, I'd probably say, uh,

817
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: my college coach, um, Rob Perry. He played the NFL

818
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: back in the day and coaching the NFL as well.

819
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: So he's always been like a mentor to me still

820
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: to this day, and you know, just always kind of

821
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: being like my role model that I'm trying to be

822
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: to these younger guys, you know what I mean. So

823
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: I feel like we always need somebody in our corner

824
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. He had a really big

825
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: hand in having you become a beaver ton't he. Yes, Yes,

826
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: he came down to my junior college and recruited me.

827
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: He flew all the way down to Georgia, saw my

828
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: family side in our house and stuff like that. So,

829
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, real good dudem genuine guy and you know,

830
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: just always wanted the best for me. You went to

831
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: College of the Sequoias for junior college. What's your impression

832
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: of Sequoia is? Is Is that your favorite tree or is

833
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: there another favorite tree for you? Oh, it's a great tree. Um,

834
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I kind of I'm kind of

835
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: into the oaks right now. I got a lot of

836
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: oats on my oaks on my property right now, and

837
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: I just I don't know something about him. Majestic trees.

838
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: Here we go. Let's end it on that note. It's

839
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: been a majestic interview in my estimation, because you've given

840
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: the goods. So I appreciated Steven Nelson and welcome to

841
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Thank you. I appreciate you. Drew Dougherty

842
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: with Steven Nelson out at the practice field today and Johnny,

843
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: how does Nelson fit in to this d How good

844
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: can he be for Lovey Smith? Well, I think it's

845
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting fit for him in this defense.

846
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: He's a physical guy. He's, like I said earlier, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about Stingley, we're talking about the guys at corner.

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Speaker 1: I think Nelson's put together It's interesting because my vision

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Speaker 1: of Stephen Nelson a long time ago was that he

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Speaker 1: was kind of a like five nine ish one ninety

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Speaker 1: or one to eighty five kind of short nickel corner.

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Speaker 1: He's not. He's five to eleven, put together pretty well.

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Speaker 1: He walked by me as he was going to talk

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Speaker 1: to Drew, and I thought, well, he's put together pretty well.

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Speaker 1: So I think he fits his defense very very well.

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Speaker 1: The key for any corner to be in this defense

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Speaker 1: is not about you playing man. It's about whether you're

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Speaker 1: gonna come up and strike and be physical out on

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Speaker 1: the edge. And not every defense asked the corners asks

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Speaker 1: corners to do that. Can Stephen Nelson do that? I

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Speaker 1: think he can. I think he's physical. I think Stingley

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Speaker 1: can do that. I think that's why Stingley was a

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Speaker 1: hot property for them at number three. So I think

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Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson can do that. And I think your combination

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Speaker 1: of Nelson, Stingley, Desmond King and Stingley, Desmond King and

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Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson, you've got some physical guys that will go

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Speaker 1: out there and they will strike and make plays out

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Speaker 1: at the edge. Okay, we got about ninety seconds left.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get one more guy thrown your way,

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Speaker 1: and that would be another new guy here, and that

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Speaker 1: would be Darrell Daniels, who is a tight end University

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Speaker 1: of Washington Arizona Cardinals, one of those impossible not to

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Speaker 1: notice players. Yeah he's big, he's big. He's big, six

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Speaker 1: four two fifty seven, I think was what I read yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And you see him up close and you're like, okay, boy,

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Speaker 1: he's put together. And you can use them in a

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Speaker 1: number of different ways. I mean last year they used

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Speaker 1: Anthony Uclaer, who I think is a similar size wise player.

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Speaker 1: You think that's a guy at that size has to

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Speaker 1: put his hand in the dirt and block those those

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Speaker 1: six and nine techniques. That is really really difficult. But

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Speaker 1: you've got to be able to hold up physically to

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Speaker 1: be able to do that. Daniels might be a guy

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Speaker 1: they use a little bit more h back ish in

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Speaker 1: a blocking capacity. I don't know. We'll see how they

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Speaker 1: end up using him. But you bring him to the

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Speaker 1: to the tight end party and see what you have

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Speaker 1: got in that guy. But man, he is big and

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Speaker 1: he is physical and I remember him coming on watching

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Speaker 1: him being very athletic. So five years in, still has

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that, but he's probably about ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen pounds bigger than he was when he left Washington,

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Speaker 1: So there probably is just thought of you got to

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Speaker 1: turn yourself into a why blocking tight end. A physical

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Speaker 1: guy probably not gonna catch a ton of passes, but

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Speaker 1: I think the athleticism is there. Two catch passes. But

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be asked his role is

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Speaker 1: you're on block people. You're gonna move people and help

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Speaker 1: this running game tight end group getting very interesting for sure.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's show he's got in the lab. Maybe some Nico

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Speaker 1: Collins will hear more as the week. Gozon Texans at work, OTAs,

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Speaker 1: it's fun, it's may, it's coming up soon enough. Training

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Speaker 1: camp can't wait two months from now. Thanks for listening everyone,

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Speaker 1: have a great night, Go Texans,