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Speaker 1: And welcome back to another episode of American Gravy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the one and only show where we mix food, family,

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Speaker 2: and freedom in the same pot and somehow don't burn it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, but I'm Bump, and I'm Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Grohl and I'm Lauren Girl, and we are.

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Speaker 1: Excited to have you back. It's another exciting week, and

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Speaker 1: we've had a lot going on in the food world

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Speaker 1: and beyond since we last met. All of us in

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Speaker 1: this great audience.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they're here with us.

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Speaker 1: They are with us. There's fifty two people right here

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Speaker 1: in the room right now, Lauren, myself, and forty nine

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Speaker 1: of my alternate personalities.

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Speaker 2: This is true. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot going on this weekend. We had

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Speaker 1: some kids' birthday parties. We had We.

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Speaker 2: Had so much going on. If you don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know why these they would know. But three of

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Speaker 2: our kids, three out of four of our kids pretty

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Speaker 2: much have the same birthday. Two of them have the

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Speaker 2: same birthday, and the little guy is born the day after.

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Speaker 1: Well you held that one in for a while.

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Speaker 2: I did, because I went into labor with him on

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Speaker 2: their birthday and I said, there's no way of having

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Speaker 2: three kids on the same day.

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Speaker 1: That is true. We turned all the lights off and

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Speaker 1: I just put Gregorian chants and it worked out. Well.

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Speaker 2: It's very peaceful.

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Speaker 1: It was very peaceful. We also were on multiple planes.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've been all over. We've had a crazy.

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Speaker 1: Out of the country. We were out of the country.

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Speaker 1: I landed at We landed as a family at like

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Speaker 1: three pm on Friday, and I turned around and took

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Speaker 2: Anyway, God bless him because I don't know how he

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Speaker 2: did that, just to film for five minutes, film for.

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Speaker 1: Five minutes and then turn around and.

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Speaker 2: Come back home. And then we had another birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those birthday parties are getting crazy. All right, Kid's

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Speaker 1: birthday party. King. Sorry, we digress.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump into these stories.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, everyone's talking about beef.

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Speaker 2: What about it?

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Speaker 1: What about beef? I've been talking about beef for years

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Speaker 1: and trying to explain to people how the beef supply

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Speaker 1: chain works. But it's come to a bit more public

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Speaker 1: light recently due to the administration's plan strategy. And when

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Speaker 1: I say administration, I mean you know it's the Trump administration. Specifically,

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Speaker 1: this is handled by Brooke rollins with the USDA and

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Speaker 1: other agencies in regards to beef prices. Right, So I

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Speaker 1: just want to lay the foundation here, set the table,

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Speaker 1: if you will. Beef prices have been going up significantly.

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Speaker 1: The reason beef prices are so high is because we

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Speaker 1: have our lowest herd size. Herd size is the number

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Speaker 1: of cattle that we have in the United States. For

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Speaker 1: point of reference, I want to say, you know, we

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Speaker 1: let's take like nineteen ninety we had I think one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million cattle or herd that that would

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Speaker 1: be the herd size. Now we're down to like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, seventy five eighty million, but it's dropped even more.

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Speaker 1: We have the lowest herd size since like twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: You know generally in that timeframe, why is the herd

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Speaker 1: size so low? Well, they're going to tell you it's

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Speaker 1: two things. It is the drought. There was a significant

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Speaker 1: drought which dries up all the land. And then the

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Speaker 1: cattle don't have an opportunity It feed naturally on the

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Speaker 1: grass and the hay and the grains, et cetera. And

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Speaker 1: at number two input costs. Right, so the cost of

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Speaker 1: Biden administration. The cost of soy, corn, wheat, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: That's an issue, and then all the other input costs

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Speaker 1: associated with gas. Right, so just generally the consumer price

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Speaker 1: indeed and everything that goes into it. But the problem

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Speaker 1: is is that there's also the hedging. There's looking ahead.

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Speaker 1: So cattle ranchers are going to say, well, we're looking

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Speaker 1: It's going to be difficult to bring on loans capital investments,

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Speaker 1: so we might sell our cattle early. It's called culling

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Speaker 1: of everything has gone up. And then by way of

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Speaker 1: the methane coming from the cows aka the farts, or

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Speaker 1: then of course the Democrats are going to point and say, look,

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Speaker 1: primarily beef. Unfortunately, it's not that easy, and we can

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Speaker 1: get into that throughout this episode. But where it's brought

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Speaker 1: the current administration. Why don't we put money into buying

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Speaker 1: lot of stirring controversy because people are saying, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, the number specifically is, let's invest fifty billion

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Speaker 1: they've said, well, that money should go to US ranchers

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the only thing I got from that entire spiel,

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Speaker 2: which was brilliant, by the way, was that you said farts.

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Speaker 1: Actually I said methane.

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Speaker 2: You said farts.

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Speaker 1: Methane, which is the formal word. At home, we'll say,

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Speaker 1: I'll say, all right, who released their methane?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So question for you, why would he invest the

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Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars into Argentina? Right, Like they're ranchers, why

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Speaker 1: Because we don't have the herd? Right?

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Speaker 2: So is it because people are buying so much because beef,

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Speaker 1: We just don't have enough. So it's the general supply,

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Speaker 1: we don't have enough. And the argument is that by

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Speaker 1: bringing in, by buying fifty billion dollars worth of Argentinian beef,

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Speaker 1: that then we're going to bring it into our supply chain. Now,

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, most of this is going to come

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Speaker 1: in as ground beef, right, so you're gonna take lean

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Speaker 1: You're not really going to get primal cuts, tender loins,

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Speaker 1: It's lean Argentinian beef that is going to be ground.

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Speaker 2: So then how is that bringing prices down?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the argument. So I would postulate as

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Speaker 1: the bucket. The beef packers are the ones that are

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Speaker 1: pushing for this. Now, this is where the real problem lies.

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Speaker 1: We have four major beef packers that ownly eighty five

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Speaker 1: So you're dealing with Tyson, JBS, Cargill, and International beef Packers.

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Speaker 1: Those are the four major players. We have consolidated and

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Speaker 1: centralized our beef markets. So they're the ones that are

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, So they're excited because they're

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Speaker 1: Right at the cost of the US taxpayer. I think

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Speaker 1: And Argentina is excited as well, which okay, I get

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Speaker 1: a downward price pressure. Now my perspective, the visits follows.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we should be giving any money to Argentina,

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Speaker 1: not because I don't like them, but because I think

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Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars should go into increasing our herd size

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Speaker 1: be able to increase their supply of cows of cattle. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's not going to help prices immediately. However, I think

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Speaker 1: there's other levers and mechanisms that can be utilized through

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Speaker 1: that's going to cost a little bit of money, but

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Speaker 1: I'd rather that money be spent on us than that

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Speaker 1: money be spent on Argentini and beef. But then the

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Speaker 1: bigger issue here is that we need to take away

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Speaker 1: we need to give that power back to the independent ranchers,

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Speaker 1: the more family run ranchers, farmers, increasing processing capacity, increasing

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Speaker 1: the ability to raise beef regeneratively through the United States,

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Speaker 1: That'll have a long term effect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I mean what this really comes down to

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Speaker 1: and what's interesting is is that even if we do that,

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Speaker 1: it's not incumbent upon the packers really to set the price.

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Speaker 1: It's the retail price. So in theory, if you decrease

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Speaker 1: the packers sell to the retailers, right, and that's called

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Speaker 1: the wholesale beef price. That doesn't mean that the retailers

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Speaker 1: are going to decrease the prices for the consumers. We've

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Speaker 1: when prices are decreased on a wholesale side, the processors

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Speaker 1: of the retailers still keep the price high because they're

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Speaker 1: used to that high price. So that's the beef issue,

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Speaker 1: and that's what everyone's been talking about. So when you

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Speaker 1: from any policy right, any policy decision, be it economic

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Speaker 1: or even regulatory, I agree with that wholeheartedly. Because that's

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Speaker 1: the quote America First philosophy that there was a campaign on.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say that was his whole spiel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the things I think that's important

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Speaker 1: about this, and we go back to, is ground beef. Right,

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Speaker 1: Like ultimately you're getting actually more benefit from your ground

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Speaker 1: whole muscles anyway, because the ground beef beef actually has

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Speaker 1: a lot more connective tissue, has more of the animal

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Speaker 1: more of the vitamins to creating, et cetera. So what

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Speaker 1: this comes down to is, even with beef prices high, look,

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Speaker 1: So I am sorry. This is actually not the case.

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Speaker 1: Jack in the Box is selling the entire Del Taco chain.

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Speaker 2: Del Tacos are nationwide.

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Speaker 1: Correct, No, there's no Del Taco on the East Coast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Del Taco is primarily a California chain. And

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Speaker 1: It's nuts, it's and it takes so long to get

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Speaker 1: Back to the methane issue, so that's interesting. I want

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Speaker 1: So another food story this week that I think that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I heard it's really the Democrats, right, Like

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Speaker 2: This is what I read today. So Senate Democrats have

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well needs to be temporary. The problem is

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Speaker 1: go buy drugs or do something tofarious with it. There's

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Speaker 1: so many different ways in what you get.

435
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in an I feel like people definitely will take advantage.

436
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously some people really do need this assistance,

437
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Speaker 2: so it is sad that it's going away.

438
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but look at it this way, right, So you

439
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: want you need food, you can buy a bag of

440
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Speaker 1: rice for you know, bag of rice for a month

441
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 1: for fifty dollars and dry bean for thirty dollars. So

442
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: for eighty dollars you can feed yourself for an entire month.

443
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: You just got to sacrifice.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I ate potato salad for

445
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 2: like a year.

446
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Speaker 1: That's disgusting. We'll talk about that another tone. So, and

447
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be flipping about it. I'm just saying,

448
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: is that we have this problem. It's come to ahead.

449
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Speaker 1: So now let's utilize this opportunity because it's a national

450
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Speaker 1: conversation to fix the program, make it more efficient. I

451
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: don't think anybody is against the program in general, or

452
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Speaker 1: people being fed. I think they're against the fact that

453
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Speaker 1: two dollars for every one dollar that goes to somebody,

454
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Speaker 1: two dollars is spent. It's the most inefficient program. It's

455
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Speaker 1: all government programs.

456
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Speaker 2: And too, it's like all this money is going to

457
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Speaker 2: people who don't necessarily need it. They're all just like

458
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Speaker 2: milking the system.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of people who don't need it.

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Speaker 1: You are correct. I mean I've heard stories. One of

461
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Speaker 1: the biggest stories here in California is that what people

462
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Speaker 1: do is they take the EBT program and then they'll

463
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Speaker 1: like go buy flowers at Trader Joe's, and then they

464
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: go stand in a freeway and they sell the flowers

465
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Speaker 1: for I.

466
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Speaker 2: Heard that too, and or like the they'll sell like

467
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Speaker 2: the fruit yeah on the side, you know, like the

468
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Speaker 2: cutup fruit. But they're using that how to using EBT

469
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Speaker 2: card to buy that fruit, and then they're selling it

470
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Speaker 2: for double the price.

471
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Speaker 1: Which in a way is a small business loan. But

472
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Speaker 1: then they don't pay taxes on that because it's cash

473
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Speaker 1: home rade, so it doesn't go back and help the

474
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Speaker 1: system so maybe we digress a little bit, but I

475
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Speaker 1: think we can open up on that in a subsequent episode.

476
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Speaker 1: But let's at least make this a little bit more fun. Well, actually,

477
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: here I go. I'm it's not gonna be too fun.

478
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Speaker 1: But we're getting into the Thanksgiving season and rumor has

479
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Speaker 1: it the turkey prices are going to be going up.

480
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Speaker 1: And the result of that is because still I know,

481
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Speaker 1: we talked about the AVI and flew with eggs, but

482
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Speaker 1: they were, you know, they were raising the turkeys around

483
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Speaker 1: that same time. So we have a lower supply of

484
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Speaker 1: turkeys this year. So they say prices are going to

485
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Speaker 1: go up.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so prices are going to be about one dollar

487
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Speaker 2: and thirty two cents per pound, a forty percent increase

488
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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four's average of zero point nine to

489
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Speaker 2: four cents a pound.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Now, what I find interesting about that is that's

491
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Speaker 1: going to become a huge political talking point going into Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't this a thing?

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah? With the nine five minutes, it's like, I forget,

494
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Speaker 1: but we always use the gauge, the index, like the

495
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Speaker 1: turkey or the Thanksgiving holiday price index. But what I

496
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Speaker 1: think is interesting is so I dug deeper on this story,

497
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, so turkey prices are going up

498
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: in regards to wholesale. However, how are the retail operations

499
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Speaker 1: going to respond to this? A lot of the major

500
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Speaker 1: retailers are now saying, well, we're going to use turkey

501
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: as a loss leader, which means we're going to sell

502
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Speaker 1: it at a loss in order to bring people into

503
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Speaker 1: the store and then make money on all the other

504
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Speaker 1: things that we're selling. So you have big brands like

505
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Speaker 1: ald and I think Walmart and some of these major

506
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Speaker 1: brands and retailers are doing these like twenty or thirty

507
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Speaker 1: dollars turkey deals where you get an entire turkey dinner

508
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Speaker 1: for four for like thirty dollars. So I think the

509
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Speaker 1: perception when you're looking at the marketing is not necessarily

510
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Speaker 1: going to be that the prices are higher, But the

511
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Speaker 1: reality on the retail side is that they might be

512
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Speaker 1: a little bit higher, although you're going to see those

513
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Speaker 1: costs kind of amortized across a wide variety of products.

514
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Speaker 2: Turkeys in have been impacted by the bird flu this year,

515
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Speaker 2: including over half a million this month alone.

516
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Speaker 1: Half a million, half half a million dead birds, half

517
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Speaker 1: a million turkeys you know why. But that's also the

518
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Speaker 1: government forcing people to kill their birds. Remember we talked

519
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Speaker 1: about that in the past with the eggs. They force

520
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: you to call the birds because they don't want there

521
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: to be a spread, and they actually pay to decrease supply,

522
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Speaker 1: which artificially increases prices when a lot of the birds

523
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Speaker 1: that they were killing were healthy birds. That's where you

524
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Speaker 1: get the conspiracy theorists that.

525
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Speaker 2: Are like, that's sad they want us all to eat

526
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Speaker 2: artificial meat.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if they wanted you to eat

528
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Speaker 1: artificial meat. A lot of this is, you know, the

529
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Speaker 1: economy is going to be a driver of politics, and

530
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: people within the world of politics are always competing within

531
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Speaker 1: that world for headlines and clicks and surveys and you

532
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Speaker 1: name it. So so many times people do manipulate policy

533
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Speaker 1: in order to help on the political side.

534
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Speaker 2: All right, well, we've just deppressed our audience at the

535
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: last few stories.

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Speaker 1: The fork, Yeah, what the fork?

537
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: The fork?

538
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Speaker 1: What are some of the craziest food stories from this week?

539
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Speaker 2: All right, So Taco Bell is turning its Baja Blast

540
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 2: into a pie and it is finally going nationwide this November.

541
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Speaker 1: That does absolutely nothing for me.

542
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Speaker 2: It does nothing for me either.

543
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: I want to blast pie.

544
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Speaker 2: I mean, the kids made me go to Taco Bell.

545
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Speaker 2: Like we just talked, we don't do a Taco Bell

546
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Speaker 2: in our family. We go Del Taco. But the kids

547
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Speaker 2: had me go to Taco Bell the other day because

548
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: they needed the Baja Blast. And it's just just like

549
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: blue drink.

550
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Speaker 1: Wait, are you joking me? I love how you're just

551
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Speaker 1: telling me this right now because you knew I would

552
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Speaker 1: lose my mind.

553
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, So you bought.

554
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Speaker 1: The kids a baja because they wanted to try it.

555
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Speaker 2: I felt bad.

556
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 1: That's horrible.

557
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So anyway, I hope they didn't like it. They

558
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Speaker 2: I don't think they did that much. They haven't asked

559
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Speaker 2: for it.

560
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Speaker 1: Since I'm gonna need to sit down to talk with

561
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Speaker 1: the boys, I'm going to crack some icine pen and

562
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Speaker 1: say this is your brain on Baja Blast.

563
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: So listen. This dessert pairs a gram crust with Baja

564
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Blast flavored custard and whipped cream, and whole pies will

565
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: run for nineteen ninety nine and can serve up to

566
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Speaker 2: eight people.

567
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Speaker 1: I'm all for indulgence and every now and then like

568
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: breaking the rules and just indulging. But like, that's just

569
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: why would you want to waste your kind of indulgence

570
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: ticket or your free pass on something like a Baja Blast.

571
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: It looks really gross too. It's available on November six.

572
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: It looks like artificial. Look it up. Look it up

573
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: and tell me what you think it's like.

574
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Speaker 1: Find me one thing within Taco Bell that's not.

575
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: Already yon blue color Pie.

576
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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I think for Halloween, I might

577
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Speaker 1: be a Baja Blast.

578
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: Oh that'd be cute. I'll put some whiff cream on you.

579
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: Okay, this just turned in. What why are you doing this?

580
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Speaker 1: It's midday, This is not between the sheets, this is

581
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Speaker 1: not after ours.

582
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Okay, that's weird.

583
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of Halloween, we got to get our Halloween costumes.

584
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Speaker 2: We have nothing. We do this every year, and every

585
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: year I try to be more organized and get the

586
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: kids costumes ahead of time, and it never happens. And

587
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: here I am ordering like prime overnight delivery Halloween costumes.

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But the thing is is that the kids changed

589
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: their mind all the time. Like Jack the other day

590
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: told me that he wanted to be a fart for Halloween.

591
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Speaker 2: James actually told me he wanted to be a dirt bike.

592
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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking he wants to dress up as like

593
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: a dirt bike rider, like a professional. But no, he

594
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: actually wants to be the dirt bike like he wants wheels.

595
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: Oh, he wants to be he wants to be the dirt.

596
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: Which is great. But where the heck am I going

597
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: to find that costume?

598
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: Wait? You mean to tell me you don't have four

599
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: hours to sew that together? I don't know we need

600
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Speaker 1: a sewing machine.

601
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: I used to sew.

602
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you know that? So what? Yes? Okay, we're

603
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: going there.

604
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Speaker 2: Sharpen your skills, gruel.

605
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Speaker 1: All right, what do you want to give me for

606
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: a cooking tip this week?

607
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: Why do you put me on the spot.

608
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Speaker 1: Because I like to put you on the spot.

609
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: No, I need your I need your quick.

610
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump I'm going to jump around here. I

611
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Speaker 1: want to eighty six at first, because I've been thinking

612
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: about this one and what I want to see, like

613
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: food trends that need to end, or any trends in

614
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Speaker 1: general in regards to the restaurant industry, and that's AI

615
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Speaker 1: answering bots.

616
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Speaker 2: You hate answer well because it's so annoying because they

617
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: sound real. But then you like you're talking to them

618
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Speaker 2: and they just say something like totally different than what

619
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: you're talking to them about, like just put on a person.

620
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Well, and what's even hilarious about that is I tried

621
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: to do it for our restaurant, and it's impossible for

622
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: it to even get done because, like you pre programmed

623
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Speaker 1: these AI answering bots. I wasn't necessarily going to deploy it,

624
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: but I wanted to see how much it cost and

625
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to understand it. Yeah, but they never called

626
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: me back. It was because it was an AI AI

627
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: person never call But you call these restaurants now and

628
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: for a second you don't realize that it's a bot. No.

629
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Speaker 2: Sometimes, so we at the restaurant, we were getting these

630
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: calls from Google and you'd answer and it would some

631
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how they set this up, but they

632
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: would call the restaurant and it would be somebody requesting

633
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: a reservation on behalf of whoever put in their information.

634
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: So like the person could have just called us and

635
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: made the reservation. Instead they used Google to do it

636
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: and call us and using an AI bot.

637
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one is really weird. What's your eighty six

638
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: at this week?

639
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: My eighty six at speaking of restaurants, is restaurant awkwardness?

640
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: You know when you all into a restaurant and there's

641
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: like nobody in the front, You're not really sure what

642
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: to do. You're kind of standing there like awkwardly.

643
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: Then you see the stone as somebody else walks in

644
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: and you're like elbowing them because you want to make

645
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: sure that they don't get I hope.

646
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: They know that I'm first in line, like I just

647
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: like I just don't like that. It makes me And

648
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: not just restaurants, I would say also like retail stores.

649
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: Like the other day, it was our daughter's birthday, so

650
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: I went shopping with her. We went into a store,

651
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: and my pet peeve is when nobody greets you when

652
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: you walk in, like you're just do they want to

653
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: help me? Do they want my business? It is like

654
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: and they're continuing on with whatever they're doing, and like,

655
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Speaker 2: don't help you.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to help you because you're a nuisance,

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Speaker 1: right Like they want to they want to clock They

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Speaker 1: want to.

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Speaker 2: Chit chat with their friends at work and not help

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Speaker 2: you and actually do their job.

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Speaker 1: And they want to they want to clock in. They

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Speaker 1: want to get the money and when a customer walks in,

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Speaker 1: that's like you're a nuisance. That's it. So no, I

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Speaker 1: actually look for owner operator stores. You walk into an

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Speaker 1: owner operator store and they're all about it.

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Speaker 2: No, you know the difference too, You can spot the

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Speaker 2: difference between Yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: I get that, and I would say parlaying from the

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Speaker 1: restaurant awkwardness too. It's like airplane awkwardness. So it's the

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Speaker 1: same idea. I assume everybody else operates under this modus

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Speaker 1: apparat like this this playbook of being polite to each other.

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Speaker 1: So for example, when you're waiting in line or when

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Speaker 1: you're about ready to be called for your you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: your lineup area, that no one's going to cut you.

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Speaker 1: But what happens is they do. There's always that one

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Speaker 1: person that's going to come in and cut you, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna and they're gonna disrupt the entire system.

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Speaker 2: Oh I hate that. You're supposed to go in order

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: by row and some people now just like from the back,

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Speaker 2: just come and line up. So there's this huge line

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Speaker 2: you can't even get out when it's time to like dplane.

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Speaker 1: And you you will say something. See I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm passive aggressive, Like Lauren will walk right up to

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Speaker 1: somebody and tap my on shoulder and like, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: that was incredibly rude and you need to be back.

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Speaker 2: There're not like that aggressive, But that's not true. I

687
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: will say something I don't. I've come to learn in

688
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: my old age you have to speak up for yourself

689
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Speaker 2: because nobody else is going to do it for you.

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Speaker 1: I do this little cost benefit analysis in my I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, is it you, Andrew? Andrew, what did we talk about?

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about it on air.

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Speaker 1: They say that people who have like skin problems are

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Speaker 1: people pleasers. I read a study about that, So I've

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Speaker 1: like had just like I don't have like crazy psoriasis

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Speaker 1: or anything, but like i've my scalp was itching a

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Speaker 1: little bit here and there the other day, and I like,

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Speaker 1: because your people.

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Speaker 2: Pleasing, Like, look what you're doing right now. You're trying

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Speaker 2: to make everyone happy, which is a good, but also I.

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Speaker 1: Do want to make everybody in my family happy, especially

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Speaker 1: my wife.

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Speaker 2: Have you met her?

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Speaker 1: Have you met her? She's unbelievable. We should get her

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Speaker 1: in here.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're too sweet?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well back to sorry, Well this just got

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Speaker 1: we'd back to the quick quick sizzle, quick tip, a

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Speaker 1: little sharpen your skill. So one of the things I

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Speaker 1: talk about all the time is acid, right, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about LSD. I'm talking about like vinegars and

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00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: tomato juices, acids and food high bright the sour flavor,

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Speaker 1: if you will. Acid makes food taste so much better

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Speaker 1: if you add it at the end of your cooking,

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Speaker 1: food that otherwise would taste bland is going to be brightened,

716
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be amplified. It's the way to change

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Speaker 1: your food at the end. It's not just salt and

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Speaker 1: pepper at the end of cooking. It's a dash of acid.

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Speaker 1: So that could be a squeeze of lemon juice, that

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Speaker 1: could be a dash of a high quality vinegar. That

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Speaker 1: could be even fresh tomato in there, or some pickled

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Speaker 1: onion something on there with a little bit of acidity

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Speaker 1: to balance the flavors that and it's not supposed to

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Speaker 1: taste sour, So don't overdo it with the acid. Just

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Speaker 1: a dash of acid, you shouldn't even be able to

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Speaker 1: taste it. You'll taste your food at the end and

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Speaker 1: you'll go, oh, oh, market, that's delicious.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you say though? You say, if you

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Speaker 2: think of the salty, sour, sweet, bitter and mommy, and

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Speaker 2: if anything's missing at it right, and most of the

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Speaker 2: time it is an acid.

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Speaker 1: It's an acid because that takes and those aren't even right.

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Speaker 1: So salty, sour, sweet, bitter, new mommy. That's not like

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Speaker 1: a one to one to one to one to one.

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Speaker 1: That is, some of them play a stronger role in

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Speaker 1: the symphony food on your palate. So acid is one

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Speaker 1: of those. Obviously salt is another one, but it's not

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Speaker 1: always just salt like people think, oh this tastes bland,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a bunch of salt in there. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's how you get salty food. It's think acids. Maybe

741
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: you need some fresh herbs, which also fulfills the bitter

742
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Speaker 1: flavor profile, but try that right. So, what I would

743
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Speaker 1: suggest you guys do is take a bland piece of

744
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: chicken at home, if you're cooking it, cook one piece

745
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Speaker 1: with no seasoning, then hit it with salt, Taste it

746
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Speaker 1: with no seasoning, then taste it with a little salt.

747
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Speaker 1: Then taste it with a little bit of salt and acid.

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Speaker 1: Then taste it with salt, acid and maybe even a

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Speaker 1: dash of like soy sauce or worcester Shire sauce, which

750
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Speaker 1: is that umami, and or even tomatoes, some sort of

751
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 1: tomato sauce on there, because that's umami as well. And

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00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: each time you taste it, you'll be able to taste

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Speaker 1: how you're building those layers of flavor. And it's an

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Speaker 1: exercise that really teaches your palate how to understand the

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Speaker 1: flavor differences. Because once you teach your palate that, then

756
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Speaker 1: you'll be able to taste the differences better and know

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Speaker 1: strategically how you should season your food, especially at the end.

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Speaker 2: I love it. All right, Well that was fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we uh, we've got we got a lot in

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Speaker 1: store for us over the next week. Halloween parties, birthday parties,

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Speaker 1: you name it. So I think we're going to bring

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Speaker 1: it back into some crazy stories over the next couple episodes.

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Speaker 1: But I hope that we gave you a really nice

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Speaker 1: primer on the beef industry, on the you know, the

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Speaker 1: history of Del Taco and the financial purchase thereof. We'll

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Speaker 1: follow that story closely. Love to hear your feedback on

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Speaker 1: what's going on with this government aid and snap benefit piece,

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