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<v Speaker 1>Picture the Solar system. Likely you have put the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>at the center, motionless in your mind, with the planets

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<v Speaker 1>whizzing all around it. Or maybe you've seen that viral

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<v Speaker 1>video that breaks the common view and shows the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>in motion through the galaxy. But isn't the galaxy moving

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<v Speaker 1>to what's the right way to think about all this

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<v Speaker 1>to assemble a mental universe? How fast are we going?

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<v Speaker 1>And does that question even make sense? A new study

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<v Speaker 1>raises some interesting puzzles. Today we're going to dig into

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<v Speaker 1>all of that and help you make sense of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's Extraordinary Universe in Motion.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, I'm Kelley Winer Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>I study parasites and space, and it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 3>I am moving relative to, I am always moving pretty slow.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist, and I'm particularly

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<v Speaker 1>interested in our cosmic context.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Daniel, cosmic context?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, what in your mind would be the coolest spot

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<v Speaker 3>for us to be in the universe? If we could know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>should we be in the center, should we be at

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<v Speaker 3>the edge, if we could be anywhere you wanted us

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<v Speaker 3>to be? Where would we be?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a crazy question, And I can't believe nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>ever asked me that before, and I have never thought

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<v Speaker 1>about that before. You know, if the universe is infinite,

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<v Speaker 1>then there are no places. Really, They're all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the question is only interesting if the universe

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<v Speaker 1>is not infinite. And even if the universe is finite

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<v Speaker 1>and closed, there's still no special places. So the most

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing would be if the universe is finite and

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<v Speaker 1>has an edge, in which case being near the edge

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<v Speaker 1>would be amazing because the edge would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>different in some way from other kinds of space, and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be like a different kind of lego brick that

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<v Speaker 1>makes up the universe, and different is always fascinating because

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<v Speaker 1>like at the edge, for example, momentum wouldn't be conserved.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for example, like when you throw a ball

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<v Speaker 1>against a wall, the ball bounces back, but also the

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<v Speaker 1>wall gets pushed back a little bit, even if the

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<v Speaker 1>wall is attached to the Earth, right, But if you

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<v Speaker 1>throw a ball against the edge of the universe, it

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<v Speaker 1>bounces back and the universe doesn't get pushed it can't,

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<v Speaker 1>and so momentum is not conserved. So that would be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting to see momentum not conservation. Hey, was that

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<v Speaker 1>the nerdiest possible answer I could have given.

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<v Speaker 2>You pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to max out all the metrics here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, let's see what other metrics Daniel can

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<v Speaker 3>max out today as we discuss how fast we're moving

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<v Speaker 3>through space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a really fun topic because we get

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about not just like our cosmic context, where

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<v Speaker 1>are we in the universe? How is everything slashing around?

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<v Speaker 1>Give you like a sense for our neighborhood and the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture of view of the universe. But also it

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<v Speaker 1>touches on some really deep and basic but hard to

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<v Speaker 1>grapple with concepts in relativity, like what does velocity even mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>So get at your banana peels. We are going to

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<v Speaker 1>smoke them today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're getting philosophical.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we always get philosophical when it's physics. Episode

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<v Speaker 1>amazing can't be avoided. So I was wondering what people

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<v Speaker 1>thought about this question before we dive into the physics

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So I reached out to our amazing group

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<v Speaker 1>of volunteers who stand at the ready to offer their

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<v Speaker 1>ungoogled opinions on questions of the day Today. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>them how fast are we moving through space? Think about

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<v Speaker 1>it for a moment. What would be your answer. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what our group of experts had to say. Should be

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<v Speaker 1>dependent upon the relative location and velocity of the observer.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all going back to the same location, so effectively,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't gone anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety six thousand kilometers per second. They don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>fast the Milky Way galaxy is moving.

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<v Speaker 2>We're moving at thousands and thousands and thousands of kilometers

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<v Speaker 2>per second.

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<v Speaker 4>How fast we're going depends on our frame of reference.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sitting down zero miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>It must be thousands of miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>If the universe is infinity in size, then we're going

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<v Speaker 1>infinity speed around something.

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<v Speaker 4>Relative to the galaxy in the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, tough question. Speed is always relative,

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is how fast are we moving relative

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<v Speaker 1>to what? Velocity is relative?

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to space time, we're moving all at

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<v Speaker 2>the speed of light.

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<v Speaker 4>Relative to what's not fast enough, guys, hit the nitrous

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<v Speaker 4>are side.

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<v Speaker 3>But on these are great answers. And having listened to

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<v Speaker 3>you explain physics for over a year now, my guess was,

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<v Speaker 3>it's got to be relative to something.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, and that's all I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will hear a whole hour on this topic,

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<v Speaker 3>so soon I'll be an experts And so, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 3>did you think of these answers?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were great. They were very well informed

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<v Speaker 1>and really funny. Also, but I have a question about

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<v Speaker 1>your response, Kelly. Do you have a different relationship now

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<v Speaker 1>to like the random physics question that might come up

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<v Speaker 1>in conversation, Like if your kids ask you a random

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<v Speaker 1>question about the universe, do you feel like more qualified

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe answer it or dig into it with them

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<v Speaker 1>than you did a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, and I'm much more likely to like interject

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<v Speaker 3>physics information. Like Hata said something about an electron the

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<v Speaker 3>other day, and I was like, did you know that

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know if the electron is made up of

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<v Speaker 3>other bits.

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<v Speaker 2>We've tried to figure it out, but we did. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like it's made up of other stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>we just don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we haven't been able to, like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>we had more money, we could dig in more.

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<v Speaker 2>And she didn't. You know, I can't say she looked interested, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I was excited and so so yes, I do feel

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<v Speaker 3>like now that I know more about physics. I'm more

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<v Speaker 3>excited about physics. It feels less opaque and I'm excited. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>life is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, physician accomplished one person at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Woo. Yes, you want a biologist over.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then I'm one for two because I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>Katrina feels the same way. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Ouch, And how many years have you been working there?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that like twenty years now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty six, twenty seven? Yeah? I know, right, Well, she

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<v Speaker 1>definitely knows more particle physics than she did when she started,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if her enthusiasm has gone up,

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<v Speaker 1>but her knowledge definitely has.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how do you feel about poop in the fridge?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess maybe your knowledge of what's happening with the

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<v Speaker 3>poop in the fridge has gone up, but your excitement

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<v Speaker 3>about it has probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's probably fair. Yeah, okay, comparison. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>The day I'm excited to see poop in the fridge

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<v Speaker 1>is the day I expect Katrina to be excited to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About particles, all right, urriage in a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody likes to talk about the interdisciplinary work, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>living it, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right, it's messy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get back on track and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>our emotion through the universe, not bowel motions that ended

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<v Speaker 1>up in Daniel's freezer.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing, all right, all right, so all motion, because I've

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<v Speaker 3>been listening, motion has to be defined relative to something else. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And is there like an obvious thing to compare your

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<v Speaker 3>motion too for this question, or do you can just

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<v Speaker 3>pick anything?

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<v Speaker 1>No, the obvious thing to compare your emotion to is space.

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<v Speaker 1>And people like to think about our motion through space.

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<v Speaker 1>They like to think about the question how fast are

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<v Speaker 1>we moving? How fast is the Earth moving? And they

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that we are moving through some medium. But space

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<v Speaker 1>is really weird. Space is not something that has a

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<v Speaker 1>frame of reference. You cannot measure your motion relative to space.

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<v Speaker 1>You can only measure your motion relative to other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in space, which you know already opens the door to

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<v Speaker 1>deep philosophical questions like well then what is space anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that it's really hard to hold in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind an idea of what space is because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on one hand, we talk about it is like having

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<v Speaker 1>things in it like fields and matter, which is excitation

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<v Speaker 1>of those fields, which are a property of space. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it feels like there's stuff in space. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about these fields, and they're oscillating, they're doing things. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, I'm also telling you you can't

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<v Speaker 1>measure your velocity relative to those fields. They somehow exist,

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<v Speaker 1>they're out there, they're part of this medium. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an ether theory because it's not an ether

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<v Speaker 1>that provides a frame of reference. That's really the crucial thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so velocity is measured between two objects, and space

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<v Speaker 1>is not an object. It's kind of a thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have this property that you can measure your

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<v Speaker 1>velocity relative to that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you really have smoked a lot of banana pills,

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<v Speaker 3>you should listen to one of our early episodes What

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<v Speaker 3>is Space, where you dig into that for a whole hour,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is some trippy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's amazing that we don't really have a solid

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this question. Like we have these theories and

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<v Speaker 1>they work, and we can pull apart the philosophical implications

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<v Speaker 1>of them. What does it mean that you can't measure

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<v Speaker 1>your velocity relative to the thing in which light travels,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, But we don't still really understand what it

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<v Speaker 1>is and how it all works, and we can't pull

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<v Speaker 1>it all together. And like quantum mechanics, view of space

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<v Speaker 1>and general relative to view of space are very different.

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<v Speaker 1>And so somebody please give us a theory of quantum

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<v Speaker 1>gravity which answers all of these questions. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it means something to say that velocity is relative. It

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<v Speaker 1>means that velocity is not a property of an object.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a property of a pair of objects. So any

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<v Speaker 1>physics question you ask start out saying, say I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a ship and I'm going ninety percent of the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light, I'm going to ask you with respect to

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<v Speaker 1>what it doesn't mean anything to say I'm going ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the speed of light, because you can be

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<v Speaker 1>going ninety percent of the speed of light relative to

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<v Speaker 1>one observer, and ten percent of the speed of light

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<v Speaker 1>relative to another, and zero relative to another who's standing

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<v Speaker 1>next to you on the ship, right, Your velocity only

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<v Speaker 1>means something if you say who's measuring it? Because again,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no absolute frame, no preferred velocity in the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>And for those of us who have to admit that

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<v Speaker 3>they had a little trouble remembering the difference between velocity

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<v Speaker 3>and acceleration and motion and all of those terms when

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<v Speaker 3>they started physics. Let's do a real quick recap motion, velocity, acceleration.

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<v Speaker 3>What do these terms mean? Yeah, great for the purpose

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<v Speaker 3>of this discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's start with location, right, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>basic thing. You know. Location also is relative, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>can say, like if I live in a one dimensional universe,

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<v Speaker 1>I can say, over here location x equal zero. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I can measure how far I am from that location

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<v Speaker 1>from zero. So I'm at x equals five. You're at

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<v Speaker 1>x equal zero. I can say we're five units apart. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But somebody else could have put x equal zero somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>So my location would be different if they're measuring it

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<v Speaker 1>or if I'm measuring it. So even location itself is

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<v Speaker 1>relative because there's no like glowing tick marks in space.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no like origin where the universe says this is

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<v Speaker 1>zero or that is zero. It's just relative. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the basic measurement that's your location. Velocity is how your

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<v Speaker 1>location changes with time. I was at x equals five

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<v Speaker 1>one second later, I'm at xequal six. Then I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>xequal seven. That's my velocity. But that's why velocity is relative,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a measurement of how location is changing, and

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<v Speaker 1>location is just relative.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it all?

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<v Speaker 1>That's great? And what that means, for example, is that

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<v Speaker 1>any experiment you can do can't measure your velocity relative

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<v Speaker 1>to space. So if I build some contraption and it

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<v Speaker 1>does something the wiz bang experiment, and I run my

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<v Speaker 1>experiment and does a wiz in a bang, cool, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I put it in a box. Then I speed

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<v Speaker 1>it up and I get it going really fast relative

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<v Speaker 1>to Earth, and I do the same experiment, it should

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<v Speaker 1>still whiz in bang in exactly the same way. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it has some velocity now relative to Earth

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change the physics inside the box. And it can't

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<v Speaker 1>because if it did, then somehow I'd be measuring the

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<v Speaker 1>velocity like within the box without measuring my distance relative

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<v Speaker 1>to Earth. You can only measure your velocity relative to

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<v Speaker 1>Earth by measuring your distance relative to Earth. So if

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<v Speaker 1>the experiment just does the wiz bang experiment, if it

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<v Speaker 1>does not like a ruler to measure the distance to Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>then it should get the same result regardless of its

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<v Speaker 1>location or its velocity relative to Earth. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you can promote this to a general principle. You can

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<v Speaker 1>say you can't measure your location or your velocity. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're like trapped in inside a box with no access

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside universe, there's nothing you can do to

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<v Speaker 1>measure your velocity relative to stuff in the outside universe

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<v Speaker 1>because your velocity only has meaning relative to that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you don't have access to that stuff, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't measure your velocity. Does that all make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>So you could still measure your velocity with respect to

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in the box, right, but not? Okay, got it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the amazing thing is that that's not true for acceleration. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about location, and we talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>change in location is velocity. You can also talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the change in velocity. So for those mathematically inclined, these

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<v Speaker 1>are derivatives. Right. Velocity is the first derivative of location.

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<v Speaker 1>Acceleration is the second derivative of location. It's how velocity

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<v Speaker 1>is changing with time. Now, acceleration is something that's absolute.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are in a box, you can measure whether

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<v Speaker 1>that box is accelerating or not. It's very easy. You

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<v Speaker 1>just like draw a ball. If the box is not accelerating,

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<v Speaker 1>the ball will float in front of you. If the

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<v Speaker 1>box is accelerating, the ball will move to the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the box. If the box has a negative acceleration,

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody's putting on the brakes, the ball will move

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<v Speaker 1>to the front of the box. It's just like having

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<v Speaker 1>a bowling ball in the back of a truck. You

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<v Speaker 1>can use that bowling ball to tell if you're accelerating

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<v Speaker 1>or decelerating. You can't use it to measure the velocity

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<v Speaker 1>of the truck, but you can use it to measure

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<v Speaker 1>the acceleration. So acceleration is absolute, but velocity is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get that.

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<v Speaker 3>It still feels kind of counterintuitive because if it's the

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<v Speaker 3>second derivative of location, it still feels like location should matter.

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<v Speaker 3>But your box example, I understand how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, for those philosophically inclined, you might wonder, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why is that Why it's taking one more derivative make

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<v Speaker 1>it absolute instead of relative. And that's a whole digression.

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<v Speaker 1>But very briefly, acceleration is philosophically very similar to curvature. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The effect acceleration is almost exactly the same as the

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<v Speaker 1>effect of space time curvature. In fact, acceleration can create

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<v Speaker 1>event horizons. There are scenarios for example, where if you

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<v Speaker 1>are constantly accelerating, you can outrun photons, effectively making like

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<v Speaker 1>an event horizon relative to photons. That's a whole other

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<v Speaker 1>episode we should dig into.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait, whoa, whoa. Did you say something can

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<v Speaker 2>go faster than light?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you can never go faster than light, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can outrun a photon. So, for example, if you take

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<v Speaker 1>off in your spaceship and you're moving slowly but you're

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<v Speaker 1>accelerating constantly, if I then try to shoot a laser

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<v Speaker 1>beam to catch you, it will never catch you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're accelerating constantly, you can outrun that photon. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like if we have a race Kelly versus the photon,

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll go faster than the photon. You'll never go

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<v Speaker 1>faster than light, but I can't catch you with a

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<v Speaker 1>photon if you have left earlier and are constantly exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So acceleration is weird. It's kind of like curvature. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing in general relativity. But the point is

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<v Speaker 1>that velocity is relative, and this leads to some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of weird things like, for example, what if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you in the universe and nothing else, imagine an empty

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<v Speaker 1>universe with just you. What's your velocity? There is no velocity,

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<v Speaker 1>not that your velocity is zero. Velocity has no meaning

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a property of pairs of objects. In an

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<v Speaker 1>empty universe, there are no pairs of objects.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds very lonely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like being married to yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I can't imagine to be around for very long either,

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<v Speaker 3>in the vastness of space. If it was just you,

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<v Speaker 3>it would be a short, lonely existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Always thinking about the practical aspects of weird philosophical hypotheticals,

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Always thinking of death is pretty much where it goes to.

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<v Speaker 1>And conversely, you can never imagine a scenario where you

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<v Speaker 1>are at rest relative to a photon because photons always

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<v Speaker 1>have velocity of the speed of light relative to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can never pull up alongside of photon and say, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what a photon looks like when it's at rest,

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<v Speaker 1>because the photon is pure motion.

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<v Speaker 2>If you pulled up alongside a photon, what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>music do you think it would be?

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<v Speaker 4>Listening to?

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<v Speaker 1>Classic rocks?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, Yeah, all right, let's go with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or quantum punk. I'm not sure actually, so What

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<v Speaker 1>this means is, you know, space has no texture, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reference frame. It feels like space is a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not, and it's the same thing everywhere. We

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier the idea of space having a boundary and

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<v Speaker 1>its connection to conservation and momentum, and this tells you

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<v Speaker 1>that the idea that space has no reference frame has

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<v Speaker 1>really important consequences. Like Nother's theorem is what tells us

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<v Speaker 1>that space being the same everywhere leads to conservation of momentum,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why space have an edge to it would

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<v Speaker 1>lead to a violation of the conservation of momentum. So

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we never see violations of the conservation

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<v Speaker 1>of momentum tells us space really is the same everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've never noticed that. Like if you do an

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<v Speaker 1>experiment here and you do an experiment there, you get

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<v Speaker 1>different answers. Your whiz bang experiment always whizzes and bangs

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<v Speaker 1>the same way no matter where you are. So velocity

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<v Speaker 1>and location are purely relative, right, And this means that,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, it doesn't mean anything to ask are you motionless?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we be motionless with respect to space? Right? Because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't measure your velocity relative to space.

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<v Speaker 2>At all, because there's no space, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. No space is a thing. It just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a velocity. So in one sense, it's like trivial

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<v Speaker 1>to be motionless. You just say, well, I'm gonna choose

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<v Speaker 1>my frame of reference to be me, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>measure my velocity relative to myself. Okay, look, I'm going zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Yay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also kind of trivial to have a velocity near

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. Choose any of the zillions of

0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.359
<v Speaker 1>cosmic rays that are approaching the Earth at nearly the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light and say that's my reference frame.

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<v Speaker 2>I do go fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And from the point of view of those cosmic rays, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>you are moving towards them at nearly the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>So buckle.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, way to go me. I was also fast that

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<v Speaker 2>time I jumped out of a plane that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was fast too ooh fast, and then slow I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, and then not split not

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<v Speaker 3>very slow, not fast and slow than very slow.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have learned that space is confusing and you

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<v Speaker 3>need to be careful what you're talking about your speed

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<v Speaker 3>relative to And when we get back from the break,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk about our speed relative to lots

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff in the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start by talking about our speed relative to let's say,

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite planet in the Solar System.

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<v Speaker 2>Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Earth is already kind of complicated. You might think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm standing on Earth. My velocity is zero, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth itself is spinning, right, So which part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth are we talking about? Yes, if you say

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the Earth that's under your feet, your

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<v Speaker 1>velocity is zero, that's kind of boring. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>say the center of the Earth, then at the surface

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.359
<v Speaker 1>of the Earth you're already moving quite fast. Now, at

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the north pole you're not moving at all due to

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<v Speaker 1>the spin, But at the equator, the Earth is spinning

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<v Speaker 1>at sixteen hundred kilometers per hour. Woa, Like, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a small amount of motion.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you know, I realize that we don't feel that,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is kind of amazing that we don't feel that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's a little counterintuitive because this is acceleration. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>To move in a circle at constant velocity requires acceleration

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.440
<v Speaker 1>because velocity is a vector, and if it's changing direction,

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<v Speaker 1>even if its magnitude is constant. Then moving in a circle,

0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>your velocity doesn't change, but the direction of your velocity changes,

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and that requires acceleration. Like if you have a rock

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<v Speaker 1>moving through space at ten meters per second and you

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be going a different direction at ten

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<v Speaker 1>meters per second, you've got to give it a push.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a force, that's acceleration. You might think I should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to measure that, and you can. Actually you

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<v Speaker 1>can measure the rotation of the Earth because it affects

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<v Speaker 1>how much you weigh, Like at the equator, you weigh

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit less than you do at the north

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 1>pole because you're being flung out a little bit. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you are on a merry go round and somebody

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>spinning it faster and faster and faster, there's this apparent

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.880
<v Speaker 1>force that's pushing you away from the center. Right, that's

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>due to the acceleration, which, as we were saying earlier,

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 1>is something that you can measure. And so you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually measure this acceleration.

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<v Speaker 3>How long did it take for us to like figure

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<v Speaker 3>out and accept that, because it's like that's all pretty counterintuitive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is counterintuitive, and it took a long time

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>before people accepted this. When it was first proposed, people

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 1>were like, what, that's crazy, And it took like having

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<v Speaker 1>fairly precise experiments in order to be able to measure it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few different effects from this kind of rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>There is the fact that you weigh less at the equator,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's also this Coriolis force, which is effectively like

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<v Speaker 1>a sideways force. If, for example, you drop something from

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred and fifty meters, then it doesn't go

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<v Speaker 1>straight down. It departs from straight down by like a

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<v Speaker 1>millimeter or so, so it takes kind of a precise measurement. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a question I was asked during my oral

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<v Speaker 1>exam in grad school to like calculate that on the

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<v Speaker 1>spot on a chalkboard in front of the professor's I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that. Oh my god, that was terrible, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got it right.

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<v Speaker 2>They let you through one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>They did. Yes. In eighteen fifty one, the foll called pendulum,

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>which is basically like a lead filled brass sphere suspended

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>on a really long string, in this case sixty seven meters.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see it rotate at a rate depending on

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.959
<v Speaker 1>its latitude, so it's like a pendulum that swings back

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and forth, but it also processes. If you ever see

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.120
<v Speaker 1>these pendulums in like a science museum, like a really

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>long string, and it doesn't just go back and forth

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like it goes back and forth, but also the back

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and forth itself sort of rotates around and like leaves

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<v Speaker 1>marks in the sand. That's because of the rotation of

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:35.479
<v Speaker 1>the Earth, and that depends on the latitude. So if

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you do that experiment at the equator or you do

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<v Speaker 1>that at the North Pole, you get a different answer

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<v Speaker 1>because of the difference in tripetal acceleration.

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<v Speaker 3>This kind of stuff is amazing and like, so I

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 3>have you know, I got to be honest, like I

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:51.959
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't want to spend my life creating precision weights or precision.

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<v Speaker 2>Instruments and stuff. But like, so you know when you've said.

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<v Speaker 3>If you took your weight at the equator and at

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<v Speaker 3>the North Pole, they'd be different. But of course you

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 3>don't actually mean like you weight, because the journey from

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<v Speaker 3>the North Pole to the equator, you know, you'd probably

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 3>like change your weight. You know, you'd eat a big

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 3>meal in between balla.

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 2>So so you're like, I'm sure what you mean.

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 3>You're like you'd have like a you know, twenty kilogram

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 3>weight or that you'd you know, compare at both locations

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<v Speaker 3>and like.

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<v Speaker 1>And you wouldn't feed any snacks to your twenty kilogram

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>weight along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>No Cheetos, No, none of those stroop waffles that they're

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<v Speaker 3>giving on the flights now, which I am so excited

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>that that's a new thing you can get on flights.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying I couldn't go from the Equator to

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<v Speaker 1>the North Pole without resisting a stroop waffle?

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I could not, But but what I'm saying is.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So eighteen fifty one is one of the experiments

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 2>you were talking about, And so back then it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>just be.

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 3>A couple hours to get from the equator to the

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 3>North Pole. It would be you know, like half a

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 3>year or more or something. You make that journey, so

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 3>you change your weight during that time, but your twenty

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 3>kilogram mass might not. But like, there's so many things

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 3>we learned about the world by getting really good at

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 3>making precision measurements, and like, yeah, we're such a boring

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 3>and amazing species, Like, way to go us for managing

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 3>to do that kind of stuff, and anyway, props to

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 3>props to humans.

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, props to nerds, you know, people who are like,

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm super interested in this. I'm going to get really

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>good at that, and I'm going to somehow manage to

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<v Speaker 1>take my twenty kilogram weight from the equator to the

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>north pole without getting caramel smeared on it or something. Yeah, right, right,

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>thank you nerds.

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's because of the diversity of people's interest

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in weird stuff that we know all these amazing things

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>about the universe. So yay. Yeah, So that's how we

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>know that the Earth is spinning. Of course, we can

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>also see it from space, et cetera. So the Earth

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>is spinning at sixteen hundred kilometers per hour at the equator.

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>The Earth itself, of course, is moving relative to the Sun.

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>That's thirty kilometers per second, right, So any fast again

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>relative to the Sun. And this again is motion in

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a circle, and motion in a circle requires constant acceleration

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to maintain the same magnitude of velocity. So this is

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>also something you could measure, like even if you were

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<v Speaker 1>in a box, if you were orbiting a star, you

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>could tell you were orbiting a star because that is

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<v Speaker 1>an acceleration.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now I want to know when and how we

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 3>figured that out, but it's not on your outline, so

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm putting you on the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this all goes back to geocentrism and heliocentrism, right.

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>We had these two theories of the organization of the

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.439
<v Speaker 1>solar system, one in which the Earth was at the

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>center and everything moved around it, another one where the

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Sun was at the center and everything moved around it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's fascinating that the Greeks actually had

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<v Speaker 1>the idea for heliocentrism. People often say, oh, the Greeks

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>just assumed that the Earth is at the center. They

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>considered heliocentrism. They considered the idea that the Sun was

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 1>at the center, and they even had an idea for

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>how to check. They thought that they could look at

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the stars and if the Earth was moving around the Sun,

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>they would see the stars wiggle in the sky. And

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they were right, they should be seeing that. That's called parallax.

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But they were wrong about the distance to the stars.

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>They thought the stars were pretty close so that they

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>should be able to see the parallax. And when they

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't see the parallax, they concluded incorrectly that the Earth

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't moving. If they had known the stars were so

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>far away, they would have realized that you can't use

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>parallax to discover the motion of the Earth unless you

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>have really fine telescopes. And we weren't able to do

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that until like the eighteen hundreds.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, how frustrating. They were so close.

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I know, they really on the edge of this. They

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>made the wrong assumption, led them down the wrong path. Anyway,

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a couple thousand years later people figured out that the

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Earth is moving around the Sun, but not by measuring

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the acceleration the local acceleration of the Earth, but by

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 1>seeing the phases of Venus and then also getting more

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>precise measurements of the motion of the planets, so we

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>could see the geocentrism didn't really work, though it worked

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>surprisingly well even with cycles and epicycles.

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 3>But then how did we figure out the thirty kilometers

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>per second figure?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? There, you could just use Kepler's laws, like if

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know the period of the planet and the distance

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to the Sun, then you can figure out our local velocity.

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just basic kinematics. So we've known that for hundreds

0:27:58.520 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Folks, you should all know that Daniel didn't write that

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 3>down in his notes. He just has the soul in

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 3>his head. He's a smart guy, all right, keep going.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>This is basic stuff, Kelly. You didn't have to be

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 2>a jerk face.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 4>I was just something nice.

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to deflect your compliment. Thank you very much,

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>all right.

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what you're supposed to say, Daniel.

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And so there are these videos out there that try

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 1>to break people out of the mental image of the

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Earth moving around the Sun and the Sun being stationary.

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's cool, because it's true that the

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>Sun is not stationary with respect to the galaxy. But

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really mean anything to say the Sun is

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>moving through space, right, It's always relative to something. So

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>even if you have like a stationary image of the

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Solar System, if you're approaching the Solar System with the velocity,

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>then the Sun is in motion relative to you. Like

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.959
<v Speaker 1>if you are on three I at lists the Interstellar Visitor,

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>then the Sun is in motion. Or if you put

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>yourself at the center of the galaxy, then the Sun

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is in motion. So it's true that you can move

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to a frame where the Sun is in motion instead

0:28:59.920 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of a frame where the Sun is at rest. But

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a little misleading to suggest that, like, oh, really,

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the Sun is moving through space. It's moving relative to something,

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and the most interesting thing it's moving with respect to

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>is the center of the galaxy.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 2>And how fast is it moving with respect to the

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>center of the galaxy.

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>It's moving eight hundred thousand kilometers per hour around the

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>center of the galaxy, which is like a big number,

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it doesn't really affect your life because

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>think about it the other way. It means that the

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>center of the galaxy is moving eight hundred thousand kilometers

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>per hour relative to us, but it's really far away,

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>so like, who cares how fast it's moving relative does

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean anything for us here on Earth, though it

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is fun to think about, like how long it takes

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the Sun to go around the center of the galaxy.

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>It takes like a couple hundred million years for the

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Sun to do one orbit. So if you think about

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that as like a galaxy year, the way that like

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the Earth takes one Earth year to go around the Sun,

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the Sun takes one like galaxy year to go around

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the center of the galaxy, then our solar system is

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>about twenty galaxy years old.

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>She's almost old enough to drink. I wonder what her

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>preferred drink's going to be. It might be tea, maybe

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 2>she's not into alcohol.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Cosmopolitan maybe, oh, cute love it, that's probably what it's

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be.

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty cool because it means the galaxy

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>has not had that many rotations. It's already formed all

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of the structure and the spiral arms and all that

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff without spinning more than fifty times. Right, that's kind

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of mind blowing.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>That is kind of mind blowing. How many turns around

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>the galaxy is it going to have? Do you know?

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a great question. Well, we're scheduled for a

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>collision with Andromeda in a few billion years, and that's

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>only another like ten ish or fifteen ish rotations.

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Change the subject all messed up again? No, no, I

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 3>don't want to hear this all right, moving on, And.

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Of course you can ask, well is the galaxy in motion?

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And you have to ask is it motion relative to what?

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And so there's a bunch of different choices you can

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>make here. You could choose the local galaxy cluster and

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>say we're orbiting around the center of mass and the

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>galaxy cluster. But I think here we should like skip

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>forward to the biggest picture question and say, like, is

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>there any kind of frame out there you could use

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that's like the center of stuff? Because on one hand,

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>there is no preferred frame in the universe for space.

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>You can't say I'm moving through space with respect to anything,

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>But there is a bunch of stuff in the universe,

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and you can ask like how fast am I moving

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>relative to all the stuff in the universe. So this

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.239
<v Speaker 1>feels like a weird kind of card trick. You have

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>no velocity relative to space, but I can then fill

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>space with a bunch of stuff like space was filled

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>with the hot dense plasma a few billion years ago,

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and that stuff has no velocity relative to space either, right,

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Because you can't have velocity relative to space, but it

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that Now I can ask like, how fast

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>on going relative to that stuff? Right? So it's sort

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of like I put wallpaper on the wall and I said,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't ask your velocity relative to the wall, but

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you can ask your velocity relative to the wall paper. Right.

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like cheating.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It does feel like cheating, but in this case.

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 3>The wallpaper isn't there, right, or because the plasma's not

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 3>there right, or it was a long time ago, but

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 3>it's not there now.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the plasma's not there anymore. And really, you know,

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the wallpaper has no velocity relative to the wall. It's

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>just like there's something else in the room with us. Now,

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>so we can finally ask do we have a velocity

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>relative to something? It's like, go back to that empty universe.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You have no velocity. It means nothing to have a velocity.

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Then I fill that universe with stuff. Now you have

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a velocity relative to all of that stuff. And that

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff has no velocity relative to anything else in the

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>universe except for you or itself. It has no velocity

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>relative to space. Right, But there is a preferred frame

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>in the universe. That frame is the frame of all

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the stuff in the universe. And so you can't ask

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>about your velocity relative to space, but you can ask

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>about your velocity relative to the stuff in the universe.

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 3>And why is that the preferred Why is the frame

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't actually exist and is a mind trick the

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 3>preferred frame.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Because it's the only one we can think of.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, there's no other option, right, digging the honesty,

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 3>you can either.

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Give up or you can choose this one, and neither

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a satisfactory.

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 3>And how fast are we going relative to the space wallpaper?

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>The answer is, we don't know. We actually have two

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>different measurements, and they disagree by a lot.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>What All right, let's take a break, and when we

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>come back, boy, things even more confusing.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>You thought this was going to be a simple episode,

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't you.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 4>I hope so.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 3>And we're back, and we should have saved this episode

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 3>for Halloween because we're going to talk about this spooky

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 3>radio dipole anomaly.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>So we're interested in the question of how fast are

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we moving relative to all the stuff in the universe.

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Because you take an empty universe and you PLoP a

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>bunch of stuff into it. Now there's a frame, right,

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the frame in which that stuff is at rest, and

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>how do you measure that? Well, we're going to talk

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>about two different ways of measuring it. One tries to

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>measure our velocity relative to the stuff in the early universe.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>So brief history of the universe, A bunch of stuff

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 1>happened that we don't understand at all, but somehow led

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to a universe filled with a very hot dense plasma.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>That plasma is a and then it's cooling as the

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>universe expands. Suddenly it cools enough for the protons and

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>electrons to get together and make neutral hydrogen, and the

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>universe suddenly becomes transparent, which means all the light that

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>previously was being absorbed just after it was emitted now

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>flies free, free lights, and the universe has been transparent

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ever since then, which means we can still see that light.

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>We can see evidence of that hot dense plasma, and

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what's called the cosmic microwave background radiation. It's microwave

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>because that's the frequency we see it at. It was

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>a very very high frequency because very hot plasma's emit

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a very high frequency light, but it's been stretched out

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>by the expansion of the universe to very long wavelengths

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 1>and low frequency. So we can still see that light

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and we can see Doppler shifts in that light. Okay,

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>so we can still see that light, which means basically

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>we can look around and see that plasma right And

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a little bit confusing to think about

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>what part of the plasma we're seeing. If you look

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in one direction from Earth, you're seeing light that's been

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>traveling basically fourteen billion years since it was emitted and

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>just got to Earth. If you look in the other

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>direction from Earth, you're seeing light that traveled to fourteen

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>billion years since it was admitted and just got to Earth.

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 1>So you're looking at bits of plasma that were like

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>across the universe from each other. If you look all

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>around the Earth, you're seeing light from a shell of

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>plasma that emitted light in the direction where Earth was

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.439
<v Speaker 1>going to be and just arrived here now. And as

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>time goes on, we see light from a different shell

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of plasma, a larger and larger shell, further and further

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>away from us. But we're always going to see CMB

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>light because the universe was filled with this plasma. So

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a great way to measure our velocity relative to

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the stuff in the universe back when the universe was

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>filled with this plasma that conveniently all gave off this light.

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 2>But so everything you just said made sense, but we're

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>talking about in an anoma, So I feel like I

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 2>wasn't supposed to understand all of it.

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>No, you're still supposed to understand it, And the way

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>we measure our velocity relative to that light is pretty simple.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>We just look to see if the light is blue

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>shifted or red shifted. Because if you're moving towards something,

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 1>frequency goes up. If you're moving away from something, frequency

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>goes down. Wavelengths to get longer. And most of the time,

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>when you look at a picture of the CMB, like

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>on the internet, it looks like all these little red

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and blue dots, and what you're looking at there is

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>not the raw CMB light. What you're looking at is

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that when they remove our velocity effect, if you look

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 1>at the raw CMB, it's like blue on one side

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and red on the other. Because we are moving relative

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to the CMB, we're not at rest relative to it,

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>so they usually subtract this part out. Because we're moving

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>at three hundred and seventy kilometers per second through the CMB,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:52.240
<v Speaker 1>so pretty fast.

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at us go.

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's sort of the closest we can come to

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>saying how fast are we moving through this stuff in

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the universe. That's a big number, and people would like

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to know is that really correct? Are we making a mistake?

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, what we're measuring there is our velocity

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>relative to the stuff that used to be in the

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>universe fourteen billion years ago. We can do a cross

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>check by looking at the stuff in the universe now

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and asking, well, how fast are we moving relative to

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like distant galaxies for example, and all that stuff, And

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 1>so we can make the same measurement. We can look

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>for galaxies and we can ask, like, is there like

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>blue shifted or red shifted and that should make a

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>map across the sky of like blue shifted versus red

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>shifted galaxies and tell us which direction are we going

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and how fast relative to all the galaxies out there

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>in the universe. Not relative to space again, but relative

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>to the stuff in the universe. And we should get

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the same answer because the galaxies out there in the universe,

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>they came from this CMB stuff, right, that's stuff clumped

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>together and made structure and eventually formed galaxies which spun

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>for a few times before they collided with other galaxies,

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So we should get the same answer, right.

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, so then why did we need to do all

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 3>this CMB stuff if we could have just done it

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 3>with the galaxies or it's just nice to double check.

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Replication is good.

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 1>It's nice to double check, and you think you should

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>get the same answer in two different ways, so you

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>always got to do it both ways, right, got it?

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the worrier in you, like, h what have we

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>got it wrong? Let's double check?

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anxiety.

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>And so they recently made this measurement. It's tough to do.

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>You got to look at galaxies in the radio you

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>have to subtract all sorts of other effects. Galaxies are

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>not as spread out evenly as the CMB is, and

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 1>so fascinatingly what they find is they measure the same

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>direction of motion. So they agree. The CMB measurement and

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>this radio galaxy measurement agree in the direction. But the

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>radio galaxy suggests that we're moving two to five times

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>faster than the CMB measurement.

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Says, oh, that's the anomaly.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the anomally. It's called the radio dipole anomaly. A

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty recent measurement, and it's not understood like either. It

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>means there's something very wrong with our understanding of the

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>universe and how it's evolved over time. But that would

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>be pretty surprising, because you know, we really think the

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 1>CMB was there and it filled the universe and it

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>was mostly smooth, and the universe has expanded isotropically, so

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it'd be pretty hard to explain how this happened. Most

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>likely this is due to something boring like these radio

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>galaxies have to be seen through a telescope. They're all

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in different locations, and the telescope isn't as good at

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>spotting them in different locations, or the measurements of their

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>velocity are not quite as accurate, or the calibration changes

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>over the sky and maybe drifts as you move the telescope.

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>So people are hunting for an explanation, and you know,

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>usually what you do is like look for a boring explanation,

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.280
<v Speaker 1>like oh, every time somebody made ramen in the microwave

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>in the breakroom, or data shifted by two points, right,

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that was an actual explanation for an astrophysical anology in Australia. Yeah,

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it was burritos in the microwave. So you always look

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>for those kind of things before you conclude everything we

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>know about the universe is, which is how the clickbait

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of many of these articles started out.

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, also, you know, I think what we should conclude

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 3>is that we need more money for better telescope. So

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 3>that we can make all of these measurements more accurately.

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, And you should look at not just radio galaxies,

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>but other kinds of galaxies and other stuff in the universe,

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and we should measure this kind of stuff in lots

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of different ways, because this is how you make discoveries. Folks.

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>You think you understand something, you double check it, you

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>get an answer that's not what you expected, and that

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>forces you to reconsider your ideas about the universe. And

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>you sometimes hear out there on the internet that, like,

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>scientists will protect the narrative because they don't want to

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 1>upend the apple cart in order to get grants, and like, no,

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. Scientists love to upend the narrative. I know.

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why you see these crazy clickbait articles. It's a

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>scientist trying to upend the narrative with their latest study

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>which blows up our understanding of the universe.

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>That's how you get the awards.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Scientists are not working together to protect some narrative.

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>They're all working against each other, desperately using every trick

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they can to prove their friends and rivals wrong.

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're varying degrees of cutthroat.

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to make everybody sound like a jerk,

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>but yes, I agree. If you can prove the dominant

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 3>narrative wrong, that's when you get all the awards. All right, Well, Daniel,

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I am exhausted from all of this moving. Can we

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>talk about Are there ways to not move? Ways to

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 3>stay motionless in space?

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So it doesn't mean anything to be motionless with

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>respect to space, right, And people sometimes write to me

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>about this question when they read time travel fiction and

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>they're like, if I went back in time to fourteen

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>ninety two, wouldn't the Earth be in a different place?

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And how come this science fiction novel I read didn't

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>account for that? And you're giving me a funny look.

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>This is a very common question. People think that they gotcha,

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and like, well, number one, time travel breaks a lot

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>of physics anyway, and so maybe you should give the

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 1>author a little bit of leeway on this detail. Also,

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it's question doesn't have any meaning, Like the Earth's location

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>over time only means something relative to some axis, to

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 1>some frame. So if you choose the frame of the Earth,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then like you go back in time and you're still

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>on the Earth. So yes, if you choose the frame

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of the Sun, the Earth would be in a different

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>location in fourteen ninety two than it is now. But

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the question doesn't really have meaning.

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see what they were getting at. Now, you

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 2>would your time machine would dump you in the vastness

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>of space instead of on Earth, then that.

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Would be bad.

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right, okay, But we've decided let it go.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Enjoy your fiction.

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Number one, let it go, which is my approach when

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I read time travel fiction, as I rarely do for

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that reason. And number two, the question assumes some absolute

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>reference frame, right, which just doesn't exist. And you might think, well,

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>what is the right reference frame? And there is none, right,

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And the problem here is that time travel doesn't make

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>any sense anyway, and so there's no like hard physics

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>way to ask that question. But you can be motionless

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>with respect to other stuff, which can be cool, like,

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>for example, you can be motionless with respect to a

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 1>point on the Earth's surface, right, like.

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:10.760
<v Speaker 2>A point on the Earth's surface.

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>If, for example, you want to build a space elevator,

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you want that space elevator to be connected to the

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Earth by a cable, and so you'd like it to

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>be effectively in geosynchronous orbit above someplace, hopefully on the

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>equator that you built this thing, and so that's geosynchronous orbit.

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>We have no motion relative to the Earth's surface. You're

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:33.240
<v Speaker 1>still in orbit, and it's still acceleration your velocity relative

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>to the center of the Earth. But you can have

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>no motion relative to the Earth's surface.

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Can I tell you a fun story about Yes, you

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 3>can space elevators.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll try I'll keep it. I'll try to keep it short.

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 2>No do so.

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 3>The bit the hard thing about making a space elevator

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 3>is trying to come up with a material for the

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 3>cable that is strong enough to hold the elevator, but

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 3>also isn't so heavy that you're just like lifting the

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 3>cable a whole time, right, And so carbon nanotubes might

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 3>one day maybe work. What we have it made a

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 3>continuous one that's long enough. But even if you did,

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 3>what you'd really have to worry about is if it

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 3>ever got struck by lightning, that could, like you the

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 3>game over, Like it could destroy the cable. And so

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I was talking to somebody about what to do about that,

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 3>and their answer was, well, you know, there's this part

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 3>of the ocean that's never recorded.

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 2>A lightning strike got to be kidding me.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You know that meme where they have the airplane and

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>like airplanes that return only have hits in these locations,

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 1>like the survivor effect meme.

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's basically that one.

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that wasn't just a meme. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was actually like a study during World War one or two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, anyway, yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that cracked me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, all right, fingers crossed, there's never any lightning

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<v Speaker 3>here again. And then I think you also wanted the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to be able to move it a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>in case a storm came through.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the terrifying thing is you guys pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out in your book soon is is what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>the cable snaps, because basically, now you have this like

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<v Speaker 1>kill wire moving at high velocity like somehow or us

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's surface, and like yikes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, or if somebody decides to snip your wire,

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<v Speaker 3>forget if there's lightning, just like a terrorist cutting your wire. Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>no more doomsday scenarios relative to space elevators. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 3>about lagrange points because I always found these slightly confusing,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can clear it up for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I'm confused because I call them lagrange points.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at you, nobody. Nobody expects me to say it right.

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<v Speaker 3>They expect you to say it right. That's your responsibility,

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<v Speaker 3>not mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends. Are they named after, you know, Jean

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Lagrange or are they named after the city in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas or the Zzy Top song or you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think the zz Top song probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that we've both done that together, I think we've

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<v Speaker 3>made this joke before and we'll probably make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, probably because that's how our memories work.

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<v Speaker 2>I look for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are these fun points where you can be

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<v Speaker 1>at rest relative to the Earth Sun system. Like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are the James Webb Space Telescope and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be in orbit or on the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>because you need to be super duper cold, you can

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<v Speaker 1>choose to be at lagrange point two, which is on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the Earth from the Sun, where

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<v Speaker 1>all the gravitational effects of the Earth and the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>cancel out, and so you could just sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>hang out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I guess so when I look, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm looking at the diagram that you provided, and

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<v Speaker 3>so you've got this spot that's on the far side

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<v Speaker 3>of the Earth and on the far side of the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess I always kind of feel like, why doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It just drift away? But I guess you still have

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<v Speaker 3>the gravity pulling it in. I'm not sure I have

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<v Speaker 3>a really great question to ask here, just kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Well, so imagine that you wanted to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's orbit. Right, So you have Earth and it's

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<v Speaker 1>orbiting the Sun, and you're like, hey, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>join the Earth's orbit. Where could you be in Earth's orbit? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're right next to the Earth, then you and

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth would pull on each other and you would

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<v Speaker 1>smash into the Earth. So try to get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit further from the Earth. Well, how far away from

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth you have to be? Well, one solution is

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the other side of the Sun from

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth. So that's the lagrange point three. If you

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<v Speaker 1>and the Earth are on opposite sides of the Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>then you won't pull on each other and you can

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<v Speaker 1>share an orbit with the Earth, right, Okay, So you

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<v Speaker 1>can both hang out in the same orbit without crashing

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<v Speaker 1>into each other. So that's what you want. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out there are two more points there's a leagarnge point

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<v Speaker 1>four and five, which are like thirty degrees ahead or

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<v Speaker 1>behind the Earth. It can also be in those points

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<v Speaker 1>where everything balances out and you can both be in

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<v Speaker 1>orbit together. And this is why Jupiter, for example, has

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<v Speaker 1>a big cluster of asteroids ahead of it and behind

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<v Speaker 1>it in its orbit. Right. I think they're called the

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<v Speaker 1>Trojans and the Greeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool love it. I hope they get along.

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<v Speaker 1>Ironic foreshadowy. And another one is to be between the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth and the Sun, so closer to the Earth because

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth has less gravity, but between the Earth and

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun, that's the lagrange point one. Lagarage point two

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<v Speaker 1>is on the outside past the Earth's orbit, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically in a line from the Sun to the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>and then past it. And so you can be out

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<v Speaker 1>there where your orbit is not disturbed by the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also just be in lagrange point two in

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<v Speaker 1>orbit around the Sun and be fine. But then if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not synced up with the Earth, the Earth is

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<v Speaker 1>going to disturb your orbit every time it passes you.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're synced up with the Earth, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>always keeping the Earth, Sun and your telescope in a line,

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<v Speaker 1>then everything is stable, and that's where the James web

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<v Speaker 1>Space Telescope hangs out because the Earth provides a shade

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<v Speaker 1>from the Sun and the telescope needs to be super

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<v Speaker 1>duper cold so that it doesn't emit radiation in the

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<v Speaker 1>same wavelengths that it's observing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it's constantly in motion relative to the Sun,

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<v Speaker 3>but not the Earth. But not the Earth, and have

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<v Speaker 3>humans put things in all of these lagrange points.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've used lagrange points one and two. One is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's closer to the Sun, and two is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's further from the Sun. And two, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the James Webs Space Telescope, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>actually at too, it's orbiting too, so you can put

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff there. And there are things that one which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty clear to Earth. For example, there's like the

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<v Speaker 1>Solar and Heliospheric Observatory is there, and other stuff likes

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, and we haven't put anything at four

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<v Speaker 1>and five. They're kind of a little bit far away.

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<v Speaker 1>That James Wes Space Telescope is already like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>far away for an observatory, and four and five are even.

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<v Speaker 2>Further and three is super far, so we have we

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<v Speaker 2>put anything at three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet No.

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<v Speaker 1>Three is super duper far away. It's on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the Earth. And that wouldn't be terribly convenient

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<v Speaker 1>because we couldn't communicate with it very easily because the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun would be in the way. Yeah, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>basically all you can do to be like motionless in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. You could try to be like motionless with

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<v Speaker 1>respect to the CMB frame if you'd like that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>like feel very special. You could try to be motionless

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<v Speaker 1>with respect to the Earth and hang out in space

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<v Speaker 1>at one of the lagrange points, and that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>special and you can see things about the universe. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But in general, motion is something kind of slippery because

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<v Speaker 1>it requires you to measure your velocity with respect to

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<v Speaker 1>something else in the universe. A lonely concepts requires you

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<v Speaker 1>to be paired up with something out there in the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is no solo motion or solo location in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. If you want to be in motion, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta find a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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