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Speaker 6: Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Bo Davidson filling in

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Speaker 6: for Steve Gruber today. Today is Tuesday, the thirtieth of December,

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Speaker 6: in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. Let's

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Speaker 6: get into today's top stories and as always, thank you

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Speaker 6: for joining me here on Real America's Voice. We truly

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Speaker 6: appreciate it and our grateful for you, our audience. First,

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Speaker 6: we'll discuss the Russia and Ukraine conflict. President Trump has

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Speaker 6: signaled that his meeting with Vladimir Zelensky went well, which

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Speaker 6: hopefully means an end to the conflict as a whole,

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Speaker 6: and also independent journalist Nick Shirley released a tantalizing piece

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Speaker 6: of investigative journalism which centralizes on fraud in Minnesota, specifically

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Speaker 6: tied to daycare and learning centers stationed across various Somali

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Speaker 6: communities within the state and then later. Texas's redistricting efforts

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Speaker 6: have seen some success, especially with the Supreme Court's ruling

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Speaker 1: But what will these efforts bring into the midterms.

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Speaker 6: We'll find out all that on the docket for today,

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Speaker 6: but as always, we start here. President Trump is ratcheting

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Speaker 6: up his pressure campaign against Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro, making

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Speaker 6: clear that the US does not recognize the legitimacy of

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Speaker 6: his rule, even as China and Russia step in to

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Speaker 6: defend one of their closest allies in the Hemisphere. The

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Speaker 6: Trump administration has dramatically expanded its military presence in the region,

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Speaker 6: launching strikes in recent months against suspected drug smuggling boats

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Speaker 6: off Latin America's coast. Earlier this month, Trump went even further,

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Speaker 6: announcing a complete blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers entering

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Speaker 6: flow of illegal drugs into the United States, the strategy

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Speaker 6: also appears designed to cut off Maduro's financial lifelines and

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Speaker 6: force him from power. This marks a renewed push by Trump,

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Speaker 6: who sanctioned Venezuela heavily during his first term and recognized

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Speaker 6: opposition leader Juan Guido as the country's legitimate president. Trump

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Speaker 6: said Monday the pressure campaign would likely be enough to

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Speaker 6: Venezuelan oil tankers were seized, with another reportedly linked to

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Speaker 6: a shadow fleet still being pursued. Joining me to discuss

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Speaker 6: this is former Navy seal and chief talent officer at

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Speaker 6: Overwatch Mission Critical, Mike Sirelli.

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Speaker 1: Mike, thank you so much for being with me today.

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Speaker 6: Just before the new year, President Trump recently announced the

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Speaker 6: first land strike in Venezuela on a port facility that

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Speaker 6: reportedly traffics drugs and contraband. What do you make of

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Speaker 6: this decisive land strike?

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Speaker 3: I think it was the next logical step one. You know,

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Speaker 3: both think a bit of it. This way to maintain

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Speaker 3: surveillance over a very large ocean, trying to interdict small boats,

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Speaker 3: some are naturally and going to get past your reconnaissance.

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Speaker 3: So if you take the next logical step, go to

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Speaker 3: So it was the next logical step. And now what

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Speaker 6: Mike, how do they find out these locales? Is this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Usually it's a multi layer of intelligence that overlaps

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Speaker 3: And once they have multiple layers of intelligence, you basically

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Speaker 6: Mike, you mentioned sort of this being a next logical step.

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Speaker 6: So if we take this a step further, do you

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Speaker 6: think that more land strikes may follow if Maduro continues

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Speaker 3: I think the question is does this mean the next

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Speaker 3: logical step is what you just said addition land strikes

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Speaker 3: or is it a potential land war in an invasion?

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Speaker 3: And I don't think we're at that point. What President

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Speaker 3: we hear President Trump say Maduro step down, he's given

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Speaker 3: them the option to step down. I think that's also

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Speaker 3: code for the people of Venezuela to rise up and

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Speaker 3: in the Department of War alongside the Justice Department, are

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Speaker 3: doing is basically regime destabilization, and what we hope to

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Speaker 3: on their own without a shot perverbally being fired on land.

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Speaker 6: Well aside from these land strikes that you've been mentioning,

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Speaker 6: and strikes in the ocean of course, which we know about.

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Speaker 6: Also ordered a blockade of ships entering and leaving Venezuela,

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Speaker 6: which has led to the seizure of multiple oil tankers

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Speaker 6: working as ghost ships while carrying sanctioned oil. Mike, how

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Speaker 6: effective are these tactics towards pressuring Maduro out of power?

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Speaker 1: Because it seems like it's a.

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Speaker 6: Multifaceted, deliberate, step by step plan.

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Speaker 1: And do you think it's working.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a masterclass. That's what we're watching, you know,

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Speaker 3: happening in your real time. You know, with these tankers.

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Speaker 3: If you want to impact anyone, if you want to

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Speaker 3: make them, if you interrupt their thought or decision making process,

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Speaker 3: if you want to put pressure on them, hit him

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Speaker 3: where their wallet is, hit them in their bank account.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing. We're hitting Maduro's bottom line.

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Speaker 3: The actual physical conduct of taking down these tankers from

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Speaker 3: either exports or imports. I do foresee again, much like

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Speaker 6: I remember, I believe that the conditions that President Trump

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Speaker 6: And whatever plan Maduro presented to President Trump, he did

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Speaker 6: not accept. So I guess my next question is, in

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Speaker 6: do you think eventually that Maduro will step down or

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Speaker 6: do you believe this situation has to necessarily escalate further.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the best thing we could do is

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Speaker 3: go back to sort of history examples, especially in this region.

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Speaker 3: It's Noriega. You know, they were putting the pressure on

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Speaker 3: Noriega and Panama in the eighties, and ultimately you know

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't step down until we conducted a full scale invasion.

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Speaker 3: I hope it does not come to that point, especially

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Speaker 3: for our troops in their safety, but that option is

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Speaker 3: always on the table. I would consider that in this instance,

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Speaker 3: what we called the nuclear option, that if Madua, let's say,

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Speaker 6: Okay, so on that note that I'll piggyback off of that. Then, Mike,

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Speaker 6: if this situation does escalate as I proposed that it

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Speaker 6: see a situation where US troops could be on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I never say it, ever, could you foresee that, Yes,

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Speaker 3: if this approach through diplomatic, economic information and military pressure

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Speaker 3: then yes we could see that invasion. Now, the Venezuela

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Speaker 3: military stands no chance against the United States military from

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Speaker 3: the military do in this is it's very similar to Iraq.

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Speaker 3: Is they take their uniforms off and it becomes a

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Speaker 3: guerrilla warfare tactics by the part of the Venezuelans, which

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Speaker 3: could mean a prolonged engagement, which the Americans, let's just

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Speaker 3: tired from the Globe War and terror. So Trump has

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Speaker 3: to be cognizant of that. He's got to take that

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Speaker 6: Well, you're absolutely right, and that's actually a great segue

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Speaker 6: to my next question, which is one to ask you

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Speaker 6: is you know, people elected Donald Trump because he was

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Speaker 6: the wars that he has actually ended. He campaigned on this,

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Speaker 6: It was a promise made, it was a promise kept.

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Speaker 6: So how are those supporters of the president going to

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Speaker 6: a lot of the base who said, hey, man, America, first,

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Speaker 6: why are we get involved in Venezuela. What's so critical

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Speaker 1: Pouring into the country. That's obvious. But there's got to

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Speaker 6: But how does this resonate with his supporters that don't

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Speaker 3: Well, let me argue in defense of the president, and

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Speaker 3: I actually support what he's doing right now. And this

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Speaker 3: is why. One we spent over two decades involved with

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Speaker 3: global war and terror, we were very focused on foreign

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Speaker 3: wars in a different hemisphere. We turned our eye away

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Speaker 3: from our own backyard, the Western hemisphere. So what President

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Speaker 3: Trump is doing is he is resetting western US Western doctrine.

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Speaker 3: For too long, we've allowed not only the narco terrorisms,

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Speaker 3: the cartels to just flood our borders with drugs, and

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Speaker 3: that is long overdue. And he's the first president to

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Speaker 3: in China. We've allowed this for way too long. So

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Speaker 3: he's resetting Western doctrine or Western hemisphere doctrine, and ultimately

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Speaker 3: saying that our foreign adversaries are not welcome here. So

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Speaker 3: this was necessary timing. Yes, he's ill afforded timing based

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Speaker 3: off of the global war on terror and people's just

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Speaker 3: tired nature of war. But this was necessary. If not him,

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Speaker 3: then who? And if not now, then when is the question?

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Speaker 3: So ultimately, the President makes made a strong decision to

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Speaker 3: put these pressure, to put this pressure on Maduro to

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Speaker 3: cut off illicit trade or illicit drugs as well as

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Speaker 3: denying our foreign adversaries access to the Western hemisphere. It

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Speaker 6: And so Mike, let's take on this to the fullest extent,

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Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right, Mike.

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Speaker 7: Well, Bo, you know both are from very corrupt countries

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Speaker 6: Well, and in the end, it seems that Ukraine is

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Speaker 7: The fact is that the Ukrainian leader Zolensky was saying

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Speaker 1: They've lived up to the plan.

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Speaker 6: Trump teased expanding the Abraham Accords to include Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 6: and is closing out the year with peace through strength

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Speaker 6: and standing tough with our allies. President Trump signed several

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Speaker 6: Lapaz County Solar Energy and Job Creation Act, which transfers

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Speaker 1: He also signed six.

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Speaker 6: Other bills into law, extending the Marine Debris Program, reauthorizing

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Speaker 6: improving public access to federal waterways and fishing data, extended

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Speaker 6: land benefits for Alaskan Native Vietnam era veterans, and extended

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Speaker 6: on his vehicle in Gaza City on December thirteenth. The

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Speaker 6: also acknowledged four other senior commanders killed, including the masked

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Speaker 6: spokesperson Abu Obeda. Sayad was head of weapons production for Hamas,

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Speaker 6: calling the strike a cease fire violation. Sad helped mastermind

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Speaker 6: and more than twenty one hundred Israeli deaths. The strike

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Speaker 6: killed three other top Hamas leaders, including Sa'ad. The announcement

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Speaker 1: Stepped into the Abu Obeda name.

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Speaker 6: The targeting of these top officials demonstrates Israel's superior intelligence

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Speaker 6: I'll discuss Nick Shirley's bombshell video that alleges billions of

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Speaker 6: dollars being used fraudently under the guise of being allocated

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Speaker 6: to daycare centers in Somali communities within the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: More on that after the break.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to AVL yesterday.

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Speaker 6: In the early hours of the day, content creator and

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Speaker 6: independent journalist Nick Shirley broke what could be the biggest

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Speaker 6: scandal as it relates to fraud in the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: In his forty two minute report, Nick claims that the

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Speaker 6: fraud is coming from various daycare and learning centers stationed

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Speaker 6: in the heart of Somali communities in Minnesota, and when

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Speaker 6: he actually went to these facilities, most if not all

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Speaker 6: were not responsive to any questions as it relates to

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Speaker 6: the allocation of operation cost and the sourcing of said funds.

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Speaker 6: The most notable instance was when Nick showcased Quality Learning

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Speaker 6: Center which was misspelled, which had reportedly had ninety five

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Speaker 6: violations against them, yet received over eight million dollars in funding. Today,

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Speaker 6: the owner's son claimed that Nick had visited the location

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Speaker 6: after hours, but needless to say, the allegations seem stacked

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Speaker 6: against all facilities alleged to be involved. And finally, the

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Speaker 6: DHS and DOJ are conducting a massive operation in Minnesota

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Speaker 6: to get to the bottom of this. Joining me to

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Speaker 6: discuss all this is constitutional lawyer and former Green berae

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Speaker 6: Ivan Raklin, Ivan, thank you for being with me today.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with this video. Soon after this video, was

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Speaker 6: published by Nick Shirley. The DHS promptly moved and announced

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Speaker 6: an active probe into this industry. Do you see anyone

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Speaker 6: being held to account as of yet?

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Speaker 1: And where is it? Where's this going to go?

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Speaker 4: First off, I want to thank Nick for doing the

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Speaker 4: great work and investigative journalism with the problem is the

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Speaker 4: last eleven years we've seen escalatory levels of treason that

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Speaker 4: still has not been addressed. I mean, no one's been

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Speaker 4: held to account, going back to the Biden criminal Syndicate

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Speaker 4: reign of terror when they did ten percent of a

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Speaker 4: big guy in twenty fourteen, and then from there we

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Speaker 4: just saw the escalation of our destruction of the constituent order.

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Speaker 4: I only see that what happened in Minnesota is just

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Speaker 4: one level of fraud and de seat of the American

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Speaker 4: taxpayer dollar and going.

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Speaker 1: Back at a minimum of decades.

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Speaker 4: So when you ask me if it is anybody going

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Speaker 4: to be held to account, this current Department of Justice

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Speaker 4: is rampant of probably over ninety five percent of this

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Speaker 4: DOJ is still the corrupt scum that was in place

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Speaker 4: over the last decade, and they're there to make sure

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Speaker 4: that the leadership of the DJ and the FBI doesn't

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Speaker 4: hold anyone to account, and they already got one win

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Speaker 4: under their belt because Dan Vongino is quitting after the

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Speaker 4: year next year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a bit surprising and certainly I think

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Speaker 6: a big loss for da. Let's talk about elin Omar,

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Speaker 6: who has seen a sharp increase in her wealth via

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Speaker 6: her husband's net worth in recent years.

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Speaker 1: Do you see this.

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Speaker 6: Development all at all being tied with Nick's video or

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Speaker 6: is that just a mere coincidence.

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Speaker 4: I mean it relates to the sense that she is

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Speaker 4: a Sabali citizen and I don't think she obtained her

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Speaker 4: US citizenship, and so she is an illegitimate member of

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Speaker 4: confer right, just like the Biden syndicate legitimate based on

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Speaker 4: the result of an illegitimate collection. So other than that,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll see any other relation to it. Continued

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Speaker 4: fraud and we effectively live in a failed state. Whereas

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Speaker 4: before it was a illegitimate tyrannic or sheet, now we

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Speaker 4: have a h An administration that is too cowardly along

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Speaker 4: with her bulkits of the House senator to hold anybody

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Speaker 4: to account.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's so interesting.

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Speaker 6: You know, people talk about the deep state, and it's

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Speaker 6: no longer for conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 1: It's actually just playing out before.

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Speaker 2: Our eyes out at Causeum over the years.

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Speaker 4: But the deep state is by any date place transgression,

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Speaker 4: gadding free relationships known as the deep State target list.

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Speaker 4: But we have yet to see one arrest, not not

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Speaker 4: even we have indictments that have failed. We don't even

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Speaker 4: have an arrest of John Brennan. We don't even have

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Speaker 4: an arrest of James of anybody. So, I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: going to come a time where the American citizens are

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Speaker 4: going to have to essentially take charge and essentially dictate

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Speaker 4: our institutions on what they need.

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Speaker 3: To be doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that President Trump promised that to

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Speaker 6: his base. You know, there's got to be some repercussions

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Speaker 6: for the actions that we've seen. Whether it's Brennan, call me,

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Speaker 6: whoever it is, it's got to happen. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: don't think it's bloodthirst. I think it's just reality. It's

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Speaker 6: that's what justice is. If there's no justice in the

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Speaker 6: Justice Department, how are we supposed to get anywhere? So

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Speaker 6: I completely agree with you there's gotta be consequences. But

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Speaker 6: I even right now, because of where you are, I

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Speaker 6: do to switch gears because I understand that you attended

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Speaker 6: the federal court hearing on the DC pipe bomb suspect

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Speaker 6: Brian Cole Junior.

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Speaker 1: Today. Could you tell us how that went, what went down,

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Speaker 1: and what stood out to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of things that you're not going to

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Speaker 4: get the transcript that I want to address, liming the

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Speaker 4: time we have, is that one of the individuals that

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Speaker 4: has worked for I think over two decades for his

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Speaker 4: father who basically said that Brian Pole Jr. Is a

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Speaker 4: thirty year old kid with a fifteen year old brain autistic.

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Speaker 4: And so even if he did do it, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's a nice little pansy to be able to place

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Speaker 4: a pipe bomb that benefits the deep state massively.

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Speaker 2: And background that's here the.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even if.

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Speaker 4: The pipe bomber is the if Brian Pole is the

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Speaker 4: pipe bomber, I just don't see a DC jury convicting him.

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Speaker 4: And what was going on today was a detention hearing.

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Speaker 4: First off, the is not even sure if he's going

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Speaker 4: to uh acknowledge the grand jury indictment that was done.

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Speaker 1: Street the d C Circuit Court.

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Speaker 4: Stec's a little confusing where you have the US District

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Speaker 4: Court for the Federal District here right behind me, and

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Speaker 4: then you have DC District Court, the Circuit Court which

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Speaker 4: addresses DC crimes, and I guess it's under appeal on

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Speaker 4: whether or not a federal district court is supposed to

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Speaker 4: acknowledge a grand jury in the Circuit court. All I

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Speaker 4: see here is a complete slow role by Joscelyn Valentine,

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Speaker 4: which is the lead prosecutor in this case and has

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Speaker 4: a little bit of history. Joscelyn Valentine the assistant Houst attorney.

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Speaker 4: She used to be the one that was spearheaded by

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Speaker 4: the deep state to go after General Flynn during his

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Speaker 4: trial and against Enrik h trio, the Proud Boys, and

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Speaker 4: the Nancy Pelosi fed direction pumper up trial against the

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Speaker 4: Proud Boys. I had an opportunity to confront her, I'm

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Speaker 4: opposed to here after her to redo this interview, and

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Speaker 4: she didn't have much to say other than she knew

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Speaker 4: it's exactly who I was, and her co counsel kind

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Speaker 4: of screwed the law.

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Speaker 2: And I asked her simple questions such as, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, how do you expect America to believe you when

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Speaker 4: you were behind the fake weaponization against General Flynn, the

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Speaker 4: fake weagonization against the Proud Boys, and now all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you got this kid that's autistic, that supposedly

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Speaker 4: admitted to the crime without counsel. And he's autistic, I

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Speaker 4: mean seriously, and he acted alone, supposedly.

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Speaker 3: We're supposed to believe.

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Speaker 4: I think my gut tells me it's a conspiracy. And

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Speaker 4: because defense counsel on Newmerous occasion, without prompting, said that

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Speaker 4: he acted alone, it wasn't a conspiracy to me. It

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Speaker 4: kind of just my Spidey says to tell me that

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Speaker 4: there's more to it than meets the eye. And again,

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Speaker 4: the government's not going to get to the truth because

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Speaker 4: they're not. They've shown to be completely incompetent at best.

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Speaker 4: And the defense counsel obviously they're going to defend him

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Speaker 4: to the end because they have to continue to defend

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Speaker 4: the Fed direction narrative. It's going to be independent journalists

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Speaker 4: and independent investigators like us that will end up getting

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Speaker 4: to the truth of what happened on jan During six.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Ivan, it's the people like you, as you

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Speaker 6: just mentioned, Nick Shirley, I think we're seeing people just

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Speaker 6: go out there and do the work that the mainstream media.

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Speaker 1: Will not do so.

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Speaker 6: Constitucial lawyer and former Green Bray and independent journalist Divan Raklin.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for coming on today, and have

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Speaker 6: a happy new year.

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Speaker 1: Sir Eric.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you both.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Hey, thanks Ivan.

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Speaker 6: But coming up after the break, I'll discuss what redistricting

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Speaker 6: efforts specifically in Texas mean for the upcoming midterm elections

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Speaker 6: next year. More of that coming up, and make sure

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Speaker 6: to tune in Wednesday at eleven pm Eastern for RAPS

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty five Year in review. Back in just a

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Speaker 6: few minutes. Welcome back to America's Voice Live. I'm Bo

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Speaker 6: Davidson and for Steve Today. The dialogue around the legitimacy

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Speaker 6: of redistricting, specifically when it comes to Texas, has been

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Speaker 6: ongoing ever since July of this year. At its height,

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Speaker 6: Texas Republicans argue that read districting efforts were a standard affair,

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Speaker 6: especially mid decade, and even Governor Greg Abbott sided a

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Speaker 6: Fifth Circuit Court ruling that changed how coalition districts are

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Speaker 6: treated under the law. Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled on

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Speaker 6: these efforts earlier this month and gave Texas the go

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Speaker 6: ahead to use their new map in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 6: a key year for many Americans as November is when

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Speaker 6: the midterms will be held. Join me to discuss this

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Speaker 6: is Texas State Representative Steve Toath. Steve, thanks for being

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Speaker 6: with me today, especially years end. Besides the map giving

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Speaker 6: Republicans five more congressional seats, what other impacts will this

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Speaker 6: new Texas map have?

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Speaker 2: These new maps absolutely take the handcuffs off of Republican

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Speaker 2: states where you know bo Honestly, it's amazing that Republicans

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Speaker 2: ever had control of Congress given the fact that the

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Speaker 2: courts of the past has said to the Republicans, you've

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Speaker 2: got to draw maps based on the color of somebody's skin.

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Speaker 2: They're not saying that to the Demo. They're sayings the

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Speaker 2: Democrats you can draw maps however you want in blue

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Speaker 2: states as long as it gives you a political advantage.

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Speaker 2: So that's why you've got New England, six states, fifteen

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Speaker 2: million people, twenty one congressional districts. It's forty three percent Republican,

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Speaker 2: yet not one, not one congress Republican congressional district. So

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Speaker 2: we have been fighting the Democrats at a gross disadvantage.

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Speaker 2: And there was a case it's called Petaway that basically

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Speaker 2: said no, you can. You can draw maps color blind.

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Speaker 2: And that's what we did. That's what we did in Texas.

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Speaker 2: And so you look at states like Indiana that we

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Speaker 2: could pick up another seat, which is which is a

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Speaker 2: two seat swing. Actually, if the Democrats lose one, we

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Speaker 2: gain one. It's a two seat swing. And yet the

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Speaker 2: cowards in Indiana will not do it.

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Speaker 6: Steve, you know, in its infancy, of course, many Democrats

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Speaker 6: were quick to call these efforts blatant jerrymandering. What do

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Speaker 6: you say to those claims? Now, especially after the Supreme

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Speaker 6: Court ruling, you.

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Speaker 2: Actually have to jerry mander in these democraty states. You

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Speaker 2: have to jerrymander in order to come away with with

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Speaker 2: twenty one congressional districts, and they're all democrat in in

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Speaker 2: the northeast part of the United States, which is forty

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Speaker 2: three Republican, that's where the jerrymandering is taking place. It's

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Speaker 2: not being it's not being jerrymandered here in Texas at all.

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Speaker 6: So that's just pot calling the kettle black sounds like exactly. Well, well,

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Speaker 6: let's let's let's turn some efforts to California. You know,

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Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom has mentioned maintained his intention to redistrict California

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Speaker 6: to balance out representation. Do you think Newsom's push is

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Speaker 6: it legitimate or is it more of a retaliatory response

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Speaker 6: since Texas did succeed.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned in the end.

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Speaker 2: It's completely retaliatory and it's stupid on its face. And

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. Is that the Democrats had already

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Speaker 2: jerrymandered California to the maximum of out. They got the

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Speaker 2: maximum number of Democrat seats that they could out of that.

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Speaker 2: And by doing what they're going to do, you're going

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Speaker 2: to put five or six seats, maybe upwards of seven

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Speaker 2: seats in play that Republicans in the past never had

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Speaker 2: a shot at.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so Steve won't ask you this.

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Speaker 6: So with with California's redistricting move, would that give Democrats

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Speaker 6: more net seats in terms of to balance out what's

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Speaker 6: happening in Texas? Would they have a statistical advantage with

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Speaker 6: that plan?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they will. I mean, we've got so

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Speaker 2: the seats that we drew, now those are all safe

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Speaker 2: Republican seats. Right again, the Democrats. Democrats in California had

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Speaker 2: drawn all but five seats Democrat. And and yet again

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Speaker 2: it's you're still like thirty eight Republican in California. Yet

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Speaker 2: all but five seats now in California are our Democrats.

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Speaker 2: And so if they're to draw any more seats, they're

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Speaker 2: putting actually going to have to put seats in place.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna take seats that we're sixty or sixty

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Speaker 2: two percent Democrat, and those are going to become fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty two seats now Democrat, which gives Republicans an

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Speaker 2: opportunity here to for that they haven't had in the past,

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Speaker 2: which would it puts them in play. So no, I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're going to pick up five seats in California.

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Speaker 6: So I got to follow up be then there, does

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Speaker 6: that mean California is saveable? I mean, is is there

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Speaker 6: actually an opportunity here for Republicans to make some gains

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Speaker 6: when so many have left the state.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can. We can make some gains in California.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. I guess it's a

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Speaker 2: clumsy way for me to say it, but yes, we

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Speaker 2: absolutely can.

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Speaker 1: Pick important to we win California.

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Speaker 2: No, we're not going to win California I don't think,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't think we're gonna win the governor's

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Speaker 2: race there, although they'd be wonderful we could, But we

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Speaker 2: are going to I think we could pick up some

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Speaker 2: congressional seats, all right.

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Speaker 6: Steve, final question for you, other than California, do you

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Speaker 6: see any other Democrat states make a play in terms

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Speaker 6: of drawing and proposing new district maps.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I really don't. I don't, and I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you the reason why. Is that, Again, like I've said before,

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Speaker 2: the Democrats in these blue states have jerrymandered their states

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Speaker 2: to the maximum number that they possibly can. If they

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Speaker 2: try and draw additional Democrats seats, it's going to put

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Speaker 2: other seats in play because you've got to take you've

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Speaker 2: got to take Blue voters, historically Democrats voters and pull

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Speaker 2: them into another seat, which is going to weaken the

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Speaker 2: other seat that is already a strong Democrat seat. So no,

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Speaker 2: I just don't think they're going to do it.

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Speaker 1: Real quickly, Steve.

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Speaker 6: Before we let you go, let's I want to find

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Speaker 6: out about your campaign for Congress in Texas to let

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Speaker 6: me know how that's going.

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Speaker 2: It is going great. So it's crazy, is that I've raised,

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Speaker 2: you know, just five ten fifteen dollar donations for people

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Speaker 2: all over that are sending us money. And we've raised

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Speaker 2: more money basically in a four month period that I

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Speaker 2: had in six years of running for the Texas House.

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Speaker 2: People are squarely behind me in my effort to defeat

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Speaker 2: Dan Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw has the only the only let's

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Speaker 2: put it this way, the only the only person that

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Speaker 2: has higher unfavorables than John Cornyn in the state of

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Speaker 2: Texas is Dan Crenshaw.

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Speaker 6: Well, congratulations Steve On on your campaign and best of

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Speaker 6: luck to you. We thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 6: on AVL today. Have a great rest of your day,

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Speaker 6: and of course, sir, Happy New Year, Happy New Year, bo.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Steve.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 6: After the break, we will have a story that reminds

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Speaker 6: us of how wonderful America truly is. Plus your answers

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Speaker 6: to our America's Voice question of the day, which is

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Speaker 6: after President Trump's meeting with Zelensky, do you believe that

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Speaker 6: the end of the Russia Ukraine War is in sight?

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Speaker 6: We'll have those answers after the break.

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Speaker 1: What makes America wonderful?

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Speaker 6: Well, we do it every day with the hope of

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Speaker 6: putting a smile on your face. Today's story comes to

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Speaker 6: us from Cottonwood, California, where an Amazon delivery driver truly

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Speaker 6: employed the fact that honesty is the best policy. Amazon

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Speaker 6: driver Connor Drake, was making a routine delivery when he

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Speaker 6: noticed something peculiar on a customer's front lawn. When Connor

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Speaker 6: went to examine what the object was, he quickly came

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Speaker 6: to the realization that a twenty dollars bill was just

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Speaker 6: sitting there now. While most would pocket the note under

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Speaker 6: the pretense of finders keepers, Connor was honest and forthcoming

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Speaker 6: by carefully placing the twenty dollar bill under the package

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Speaker 6: he was delivering, ensuring that the homeowners could take back

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Speaker 6: the misplaced twenty bucks. Later that day, the homeowners reviewed

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Speaker 6: their doorbell camera footage and saw Connor's gesture. Furthermore, Connor

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Speaker 6: returned to the house to receive a gift under the

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Speaker 6: homeowner's request, which he has decided to keep private. Honesty

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Speaker 6: and integrity the key values of a functioning society, and

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Speaker 6: Connor's actions certainly support that, reminding us of what makes

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Speaker 6: America truly wonderful. Now reminder, our question of the day

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Speaker 6: was after President Trump's meeting with voladimeter. Zelensky, do you

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Speaker 6: believe that the end of the Russia Ukraine War is

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Speaker 6: in sight?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 6: Our first answer comes from Larry Kutrier Junior, who says,

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Speaker 6: who knows these days? I believe it could be, but

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Speaker 6: I don't think Zelensky can be trusted. But I also

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Speaker 6: feel the same way about Putin as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: I think Larry, that a lot of people agree with you.

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Speaker 6: Here's another answer from Wayne Brood, who says, I feel

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Speaker 6: like we are being played by Zelensky. Biden had some

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Speaker 6: kind of deal worked out with him, and I hope

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Speaker 6: we find out where all those tax dollars went.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and me both. I would agree with you

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 6: Another answer here from Marty Klaus, who says Putin doesn't

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Speaker 6: want peace, he wants Ukraine. Marty, I think a lot

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Speaker 6: of people probably would agree with you on that. Let's

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Speaker 6: just hope that Putin comes to his senses and Putin'

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Speaker 6: Zelensky can agree on something that would be great for us.

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Speaker 6: Another ants here from Keighley Shively, who says no, because

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Speaker 6: Zelensky doesn't want it to end. He's making too much

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Speaker 6: money and if it ended, the elections would resume.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point that you make.

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Speaker 6: He's been getting a lot of money and now that

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Speaker 6: that money may be coming to a close. Sandy list

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Speaker 6: Street says, no, Putin won't stop.

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Speaker 1: But we hope you're wrong, Sandy, but we'll see.

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Speaker 6: David Smith says, as long as Putin stays in power,

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Speaker 6: the war will not end. It will take an internal

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Speaker 6: Russian civil war to depose him, and Mark Connor says,

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Speaker 6: I doubt it. There's no profit to be made for

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Speaker 6: Zelensky in a piece. Now, make sure to tune into

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Speaker 6: Wednesday at eleven pm Eastern for RAPS twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five Year in Review.

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Speaker 6: I'll be there along with Brian Glynn, Ben Bergwan lots

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Speaker 6: of folks. Thanks for joining us today in America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 6: I'm Bo Davidson.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day.