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Speaker 3: Everybody, Emily, A body here coming to you live from

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Speaker 3: that's the entry point, which I'm sure, especially having been

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Speaker 3: how can we make this program, this modality, this strategy

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Speaker 3: something that doesn't feel like everest to get into in

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Speaker 1: In our offices, we have in our studious that we

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Speaker 1: have a giant quote on the wall and it's progress,

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Speaker 1: not perfection. And it's been core to everything, and you know,

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Speaker 1: user member advocate, you know, I'm top tracker, you know,

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Speaker 1: you name it. And we all have to give ourselves

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Speaker 1: that are going to fulfill us and do something for us.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the other thing is, and the big

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Speaker 1: takeaway from these last couple of years is the importance

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Speaker 1: of our health, our physical health, our mental health. You

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Speaker 1: know it is it is the one thing that we

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Speaker 2: So true, it's so true.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here nod in my head, listening to you

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Speaker 3: and also thinking about the book proposal that I'm going

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Speaker 3: to write about, Like the six Piece, It's coming to

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Speaker 3: a bookshelf near you very soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last question for you, Mindy.

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Speaker 3: Right now you have the opportunity to offer yourself a

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Speaker 3: piece of advice. Looking back to the beginning of last year,

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Speaker 3: the beginning of twenty twenty one, what do you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: I hinted at it before. Be patient, but be focused

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Speaker 1: and diligent. Don't let the noise distract you from what's

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Speaker 1: really important. Give yourself the permission right to look at

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Speaker 1: the cadence of what you need to do to prepare

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Speaker 1: yourself for the best future. That's what I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, permission to prepare yourself for the best future.

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Speaker 3: I love that, Mindy, So grateful for your time. As always, Mindy,

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Speaker 3: how do the hurdlers follow along with you?

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Speaker 2: How do they keep up with WW? Give me all

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Speaker 2: the file.

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Speaker 1: It's Mindy Grossman, following me on LinkedIn, Twitter and Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Over at WW for Instagram as well, Yes, over at WW.

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Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another

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Speaker 3: Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.