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Speaker 1: I do need to have a question. And Chris, can

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Speaker 1: you pull up this this photo for me?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: This iconic fun I remember this.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to get past, was trying to hold me,

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Speaker 3: you see, I was trying to get past. I was

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Speaker 3: trying to get to Lj's ass. I was trying to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is first of all watching this vividly watching

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Speaker 1: this to talk to me about this.

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Speaker 4: Look at, Jeff, look at.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised.

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Speaker 2: That's loyalty right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, listen, I mind, Jeff. It was that

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Speaker 3: pitchure defines pretty much the intensity level of every Last

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Speaker 3: Knicks heat games in the nineties, everyone, even the regular

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Speaker 3: season games. And it was ironic how we met in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs for four straight years. It was so ironic,

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Speaker 3: you know, And it was a classic hat feeling McCoy's.

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Speaker 4: Type of what that money at your ask.

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Speaker 3: We got tangled up and there was some words exchange,

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Speaker 4: And we just went to scrapping, you know.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, you know, there was already a pent up rivalry,

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Speaker 3: a built up rivalry, you know, and that just just

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Speaker 4: But it was several this wasn't the only fight fight

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Speaker 2: Charlie Waters going on back there. You didn't need nothing.

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Speaker 4: You didn't need nothing to start, you need flipping damn right,

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Speaker 4: crazy we had several.

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Speaker 3: Fights, you know. But but you know what, all this

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Speaker 3: was a derivative of pat Riley coaching in New York,

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Speaker 4: So he planted this.

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Speaker 3: See he planted to see that type of mentality in

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Speaker 3: New York. Jeff Van Gundy was his disciple. He planted

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Speaker 3: to see in Miami as well. So you had two

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Speaker 3: very similar teams playing the same way. That's why the

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Speaker 3: scores were so low. The scores were in the night

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Speaker 3: that the games were in the ninth eighties and nineties.

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Speaker 3: After you brought that up, he planted to see because

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Speaker 3: damn right.

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Speaker 5: So so Pat is the culprit, because I'm so crazy

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Speaker 5: now to see I can't I only think one way?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that one way?

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Speaker 2: Yeah is crazy?

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Speaker 4: This is oh yeah, Oh they're showing all the highlights.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, les, we didn't want to see all the highlights.

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Speaker 2: You just want to see I don't mind.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough was tough. Bo was a sticker. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's a good killer like, looks like he has a

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Speaker 4: bottle of jack da killer looking kill man.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I ain't no way boy, call again, Ready for Jeff?

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Speaker 2: Be ready? Oh many killer? You throw me like that

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Speaker 2: every time I see you.

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Speaker 4: You see how we all rushed though all of us

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Speaker 4: was over there of us.

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody care about no money getting paid? He liked

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Speaker 2: that ship. We would do it again, and we would

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Speaker 2: do it again. Look, I ain't get that fast enough.

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Speaker 4: It's so smart tooth.

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Speaker 2: Y'all was sick, so you got a little smirk on

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Speaker 2: your face too.

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Speaker 4: Damn. Let's get it on, baby, Let's get it on't

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Speaker 4: know no other way.

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Speaker 2: Look at his feet. That is insane.

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Speaker 3: Just picked his ass up and flip suspension. I didn't

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Speaker 3: realize how strong PJ was.

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Speaker 5: Pick a man up and listen, and I'm not wishing

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Speaker 5: no bad look, but please tell me he got suspended.

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Speaker 4: He got suspended. God damn, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that looks like that little ship that you blow,

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Speaker 2: you know the things you blow it it's spin around

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy to do another grown man like that. The

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Speaker 2: trophy at his classics, the trophy fall out of Charlie,

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Speaker 2: the trumple fall out.

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna watch it.

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Speaker 1: I can watch that ship over and.

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Speaker 2: Over and over again.

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Speaker 5: Those nineties y'all were fucking nuts. But man, I wish

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Speaker 5: I could have played in that era. I'm sure you

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Speaker 5: would have fit well in there. You would have fit

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Speaker 5: well in that Ara, my brother, no doubt. And you

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Speaker 5: talk about Lebron, Lebron would have played well in the nineties,

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Speaker 5: kidding me. Oh, we would have laid some wood on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we took him out of the air a couple

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Speaker 3: of times, you know, but he would have bounced right

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Speaker 3: back because the way he's playing now is just unreal.

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Speaker 1: So talking about the now talk.

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Speaker 5: About Miami heat now, I know it's before we talk

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Speaker 5: about heat now. I got I was because we work

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Speaker 5: on our skill set. You work on your shots, you

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Speaker 5: work on your handles, you work on your post movies,

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Speaker 5: you work on this the elite shot blocking, right, What

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Speaker 5: is that like? Is that just some ship that I

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Speaker 5: think I do that my career. Yeah, I got a

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Speaker 5: couple of block shots, but I gotta catch you slipping.

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Speaker 5: I gotta catch you slipping with the elite shot blocking? Bro?

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Speaker 4: Is that like?

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Speaker 2: Is that just Gods? Give me? You know, it's just

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Speaker 2: something that work to watch film.

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Speaker 4: It's just an actual, first of all, average, because what

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Speaker 4: fuck are you six nine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I'm six ten six nine, So I'm six seven six.

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Speaker 6: I'm six seven sixth. I got like a seven six wings.

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Speaker 6: That's true, that's true. But you six is fairly athletic.

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Speaker 6: That was very athlete but six nine yeah, so it

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Speaker 6: first of all, it's pursuit. I averaged a triple double

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Speaker 6: in high school. Averaged almost eleven blocks a game in

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Speaker 6: high school. Okay, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I was like twenty seven points, fifteen rebounds, and like

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Speaker 3: it started back then because my high school coach was

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Speaker 3: he would always tell me, I don't want them to

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Speaker 4: I don't want them to score.

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Speaker 3: So I developed the habit of going after shots and

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Speaker 3: then and then Big John would tell me Bill Russell

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Speaker 3: I started making short. I didn't throw the ball that

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Speaker 3: I would just catch it at his peak, keep it

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Speaker 3: So we keep the possession because otherwise you a lot

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Speaker 3: of shot blockers. They block it out of bound, you know,

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Speaker 3: So you know, and then you know, as my career development,

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Speaker 3: I just say, you know what, there's gonna be nice

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Speaker 3: the corner. But I still got to find other ways.

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Speaker 3: I got to find other ways to help my team win.

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Speaker 3: So I had to defend and I had to block shots,

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Speaker 3: you know. And so that's why game six, you know,

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Speaker 3: when coach put me in the game, I say, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in here. I'm gonna defend like a

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Speaker 3: maniac because we're down. It's game six. You know, I

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Speaker 3: want to try to get us back in the game.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: So everything that went in that basket, I was going,

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Speaker 3: I was blocking, I was trying to catch it. I

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Speaker 3: was trying to go. Yeah, most definitely, you know. So

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Speaker 3: that was my approach to every game.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I felt like, first of all, I was given to

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Speaker 3: God given physical abilities, you know, and I just wanted

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Speaker 3: you know. So that's why anytime I want Defensive Player

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Speaker 3: of the Year, I used to thank all my teammates

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Speaker 3: for letting the man blow Byah. But I would get

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Speaker 3: in your ass if you didn't take my man out

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Speaker 3: to play, because a lot of times.

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Speaker 4: Just keep coming, you get blown by, just keep coming,

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Speaker 4: take my man out.

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Speaker 2: I would love to have that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, best of luck, for.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, because a lot of time they would try

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Speaker 3: to loft it up. I would change the shot and

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Speaker 3: then my man would get the tipping. All that pissed

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Speaker 3: me off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I used to curse

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Speaker 3: my team teammates out of you said.

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Speaker 1: A defensive Player of the Year won two of them, correct, I.

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Speaker 4: Won two of them. Should have won more.

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Speaker 3: But you got to think during that era, you had Patrick,

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Speaker 3: you had David Robinson, you had a king who has

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Speaker 3: the most blocks in the history of the league.

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Speaker 4: You had to Ken. I mean, you had all these

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Speaker 4: great shot blockings. So it was hard, man, What what

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Speaker 4: was hard? What would you say? But I held my

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Speaker 4: own though. What would you say?

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Speaker 1: If I could tell you we could rewind back and

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Speaker 1: if for every time you won Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 1: year to put you in a super max category and

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Speaker 1: make an extra ninety million years.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh would have been on Oh for sure that.

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Speaker 2: In Senate.

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Speaker 4: Oh no doubt. I would have won it every year.

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Speaker 4: I would have won it every year. I want every year,

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Speaker 4: Oh no doubt. Crazy.

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