WEBVTT - Clay Travis sits down with Bobby Bones 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.680 This this Winston Losses with Clay Trevis, play talks with 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.320 the most entertaining people in sports, entertainment and business. Now 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:21.080 here's Clay Trevis. Welcome into Wins and Losses. I am 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.159 Clay Travis. You're fearless host. This is a podcast we 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.040 do weekly. I hope you guys are enjoying them. About 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.800 to talk with Bobby Bones, who is an incredibly successful 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.000 radio show host in his own right. So you will 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.680 hear two radio show hosts talking, which will maybe drive 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:38.560 you insane or maybe you will love it. Yes. Uh 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.120 And if you enjoyed this one, I guarantee you that 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.600 you will probably enjoy some of the other conversations we've had. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.920 Goal is to find people who are interesting in sports, media, politics, 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.080 business and beyond and talk to them about how they 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.600 ended up where they are now. So, without further ado, 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.360 you already heard him. He's Bobby Bones on Twitter at 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.600 Bobby Bones. No, I couldn't you get it. I try 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.400 to buy Bobby Bones from that Bobby of the show. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.240 It's at Mr Bobby Bones. But the guy who has 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.040 it has like a hundred followers. I don't even want 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.000 to say at Bobby Bones because you're gonna go check 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.200 it out. I tried to buy the Instagram. I tried 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.680 to buy the Twitter, and the guy's like, I don't 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:13.920 want to sell it. It It means too much to me. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.800 You don't tweet. If you tweet it every day, I 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.119 would understand. Or if you were like a dog food 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.959 company or something, and the money it's went up. He's 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.000 been He's not even squatting like it means something to him. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.160 What is his name really, Bobby Bones? I don't know. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.280 He won't talk to me other than say no. It's 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.360 like girls they don't talk to you other than say no. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.600 It's very similar. It's funny. I started out kicked the coverage, 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.080 and then pretty soon I was like, damn, I need 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.080 to buy OutKick right like I need to have OutKick 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.000 dot com in the event that somebody tries to go 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.160 find me at OutKick dot com. And it was like 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.440 a German uh, Like, I don't even know what it 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.520 means in German. I'm probably in trouble for that already. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.760 But it was some sort of German company. And so 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.240 I tracked him down and I tried to send him 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.600 an email, and I was like, hey, you know, I've 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.760 got this website. I'll kick the coverage in English, right, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.120 I mean, I have no idea if they can read it, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.480 and I sent it to him, I don't hear anything. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.320 And then fortunately for me, that company goes bankrupt and 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.680 uh and the site goes into auction and for like 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.040 five grand or whatever it was, I bought out kick 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.560 dot Com. But I would have probably paid ten right 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.480 if they had just responded to my email just to 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.440 have out kick dot com. I didn't have that opportunity. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.239 But it is funny, like I'm may be fortunate somewhat 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.520 and that at Clay Travis, nobody else is out there 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.080 that's I'm looking at it. Six followers is protected well. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.600 And you know what's funny is I bet a bunch 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.240 of his followers are people that are your fans, probably 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.680 because if it's protected, they probably and it's probably cute girls. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.959 And he's like, oh, I'll let them follow me. Mr 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.920 Bobby Bones. I'm I'm a real treat over there. So uh, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.639 Mr Bobby Bones. So you, for people out there who 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.000 don't know you do a daily radio show country music 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.400 stations all over the country from like how many hours 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.640 a day are you guys on We're on for five, So, uh, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.720 we work Central time or so we're on five to 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.360 ten Central, but we gotta be on A five, so 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.519 we could be on a six Eastern. Yeah, so you're 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.120 somewhat familiar, like we've met each other really because we 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.040 initially were doing the Fox Sports radio show like right 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.360 next door to you guys here. And we're also up 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.399 insanely early in the morning, and there's like nobody else 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.640 in Nashville who's up at our hours. The traffic is 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.320 not bad whenever you have to drive in a four 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.720 yet that's the only benefit. And I go to bed 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.560 at eight every night, try eight thirty unless I'm tolding 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.720 the way you do that because I see your Twitter 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.919 feed and you're regularly tweeting after that. My goal I 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.960 discipline myself, at least by setting goals, is to be 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.960 in bed by eight if I'm here in the Central 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.680 time zone. Yeah, and how often do you do that? 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.240 Three nights a week? That's pretty good? Yeah. Do you 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.920 actually fall asleep quickly or you like, Yeah, I watched 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.160 The Office probably four or five episodes a night. You 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.400 just hop on Netflix and is it the greatest most 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.200 funny television show of all time? And I can't understand 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:43.880 why I can keep watching it over and over. I 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.760 can't understand why I continue to be moved by the 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.680 same thing. I was watching the episode last night where 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.080 Jim and Pam get married. Yeah, I cried. I've seen 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.160 it think thirteen times, like I I can quote it 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.400 all back, yet I still got emotional by it. But 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.720 and I wake up with three fifteen every morning, Um, 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.200 just naturally, Nope, No, I hate waking up the morning. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.960 I'm not a morning per eight mornings to which is 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.320 ironic that we both do morning radio. Like but in 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.440 your ideal life, you would be a night person like 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.160 you for most of your life, where you like I 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.760 wake up at eleven probably yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.680 that would be it for me. But you wake up 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.360 early in the morning unless I'm touring, which is my schedule. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.159 Flip flop. So I'll do wake up at three every 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.800 morning until Saturday, you know, Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, because 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.200 I'm on the road, or if I'm out in California, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.120 if I'm doing television and I have to wake up 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:30.120 at one in the morning, that's brutal. We're gonna get 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:31.919 into that in a little bit. But so I like 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.120 to start on these shows with like where you grew up? 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:36.400 And I know where you grew up. I know a 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.120 lot about your history because I read your first book. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.720 I haven't read the second book yet, but I think 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.560 it's called Bare Bones. Uh. And it's a fabulous book. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.080 I mean, really really good. I I read it texted 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.479 you after I finished it, and I was like, dude, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.040 this book is legitimately really really good. So I know 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.560 a lot of your background, so I can ask you 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.960 leading questions here. You grew up in small town Arkansas. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.280 For people who don't know what your background was, like, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.720 how would you describe it? Well, I thought it was 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.600 pretty normal when you're surrounded by other people that are 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.800 also living in poverty. Yeah, you know, I never thought 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.120 a rural rural liked seventy two people in the town. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.680 There's a sawmill that's been closed down. Um this The 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.720 town is still very segregated. There's a railroad track that 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.800 runs down the middle, and there's the white quarters in 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.800 the black quarters still today, which is wild. Um. So yeah, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.400 and there's not that many people in either the white 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.200 or the black quarters. And you know there's one store 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.839 now which is like like we used to go to town. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.680 When you got town, you go to Walmart and you 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.200 would go and tell everybody near you, this sound like 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.120 little house in the prairie. Now I's like, get older, 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:36.880 it's it's it's just nutty. But you go, hey, we're 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.440 going to Walmart. And that was twenty minutes away into 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:39.880 Hot Springs, and that was a big deal. I get 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.480 to go to Walmart. It was a big deal because 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.359 you went about once a week and you get to 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.719 walk through and it's like there's all this stuff to 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.359 see you, right, I mean like it's a like for 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.000 people out there who are regularly surrounded by stores and 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.640 everything else, Like it's I feel like we'll get into 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.600 I don't know if you've watched all the Stranger Things yet, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.720 but I feel like, uh, you know, it's it's crazy 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.640 to me, was watching Stranger Things set in I think 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:07.360 this most recent version. They're my producer Jason Martin over 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:12.120 there saying they're closer to World War two almost than 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.479 they are to present day. I saw your tweet about that. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.440 That blow your mind too. Like when you sit around, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.880 you're like, holy cow, Like it's it's crazy that we're 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.279 it's almost equidistant between the two and I think for me, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:23.920 my all might happened in the nineties and now it 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.680 feels like we're just getting so old. We're getting so old. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.640 My coast and I needed both talks about fourhead today 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.280 that we are. We had one traffic No, we had 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.160 no traffic lights when you were growing up. Yeah, and 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.320 we only got a cell phone tower a year ago, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.560 so you could still like it was like you're driving 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.240 back in time when you go back to your years ago. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.640 You had no cell service when you went into my hometown. Yeah, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.720 that's it's a pretty poor town. We once the saw 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.160 mills shut down, it kind of all went south. Yes, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.120 So but again I grew up in the middle of that, 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.160 and I really didn't know until I started to get 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.560 older to go, wow, I'm a food stamp kid. Not 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.520 everybody in the world's a food stamp kid. Or you know, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.760 we were on welfare. We did um. You know you 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.080 had to wait for food on Sunday's uh if when 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.160 the church was passing it out. That was normal until 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.040 I realized later on it really wasn't that normal. Because 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.720 you're your kid, you think whatever surround you was perfectly normal. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.080 That's what you see is what you know, you really aren't. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.760 And and again our education was not good, so it 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.760 wasn't like, you know, we had teachers coming in to 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.360 teach us about the culture of France, you know that 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.200 we didn't learn about all these uh nutty places or 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.120 big cities like Little Rock. Uh. So it was fine. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.320 It was actually a pretty good childhood as far as 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.640 where I grew up. Now, my mom was a drug addict, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.440 and so we really didn't have a relationship. She ended 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.200 up dying in her forties. Yeah, And and she was 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.480 champion when she was fifteen, right right in fifteen sixteen, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.200 so she had a struggle, you know, and she had 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.080 a top of My dad left when I was six 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.880 years old. Um, so I went into the hospital. I 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.600 fell off a house and kind of ruptured some of 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.600 my organs inside, and when I went to the hospital, 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.679 he pieced out. So I never saw him again until 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.680 like two years ago when I chased him down. Um. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.320 Which is the first part of the first chapter of 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.440 my second book where I actually tell that story. So 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.560 you know, I didn't grow up really with strong parental units. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.280 My grandmother stepped in and adopt me for a while. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.560 My mom disappeared. My grandmother stepped in and became a 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.440 legal guardian for years. UM. So it was a lot 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.960 of bouncing back and forth, um, moving from places, getting evicted. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.960 But again I say that, and you know, I'm grateful 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.800 for all of my misstepts, which is what this podcast 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.880 is about, you know, the losses. I'm so grateful and 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.480 I have some big ones to share with you, but 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.040 I'm so grateful for all of that because like, I'm tough, 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.280 I'm resilient, and like there's nothing that I feel now 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.800 that I can't take on and eventually like nothing that 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.120 I can't take on to win. So, uh, you said 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.000 you you your mom, you had shed drug issues, your dad, 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.560 you had limited relationship with what was and he was 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.240 living minutes away for a lot a lot of it. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.240 Still nothing never saw So I'm once in a store 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.720 and that was it. I remember read that's in the book, right, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.560 the first book. I haven't read the second book yet. 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.559 So what was your grandmother like? She was great, She 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.360 had a bunch of kids. Her husband had died while 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.240 they were young married, so she raised five kids on 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.800 her own. Basically she was for years what I thought 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:15.280 a mom should be, very loving. Um, just they're at present, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.040 which is the biggest thing that you can be with 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.840 someone is just especially a kid. Yeah, so she was present, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.000 and I think, you know, as I get older and 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.760 look back, you know, she is really probably the biggest 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.760 influence on my early life. So you don't have a 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.679 strong mother presence, you don't have a strong father presence. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.920 But in your book, I know, uh, television was big 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.160 for you, Like you would watch a lot of difference, 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.400 So for like, how did you spend your time? Like, well, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.200 I with TV was such an important part of my 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.640 life because I never had a bedroom that we were 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.080 in a tiny house and I slept on a couch 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.600 and my closet was underneath the couch. So the four 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.199 T shirts I had, her pair of pants I had, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.520 we just put on the couch and everything was always 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.880 in the living room. So the TV always stayed on, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.360 and so why I always watched television. So for me, 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.840 I think that's how I kind of fell into David 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.480 Letterman being the guy that I looked to as really 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:11.160 my first and you know, one of my only mentors, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.680 even though I never met him. There wasn't like I 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.640 had the resources to reach out to anyone that wanted 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:16.880 to do what I did. No one did any sort 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.960 of communications or comedy where I came from. And I 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.400 saw David Letterman, who was a weird looking guy, had 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.480 a weird looking delivery, and I thought, Man, if he 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.000 can do it, then why can't I. And I just 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.959 kind of studied and emulated that through my early years. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.360 And you also said, I remember reading in your book 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.200 that you had, like there's a set of encyclopedias, and 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.480 you would just read, you know, like any because you 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.360 were curious and still are an intellectually curious guy, right, so, 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.320 and you would just read straight through and learn. Well, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:43.800 what I would do is I would mow yards and 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.559 rape leaves and save money. And the two things that 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.480 I bought were school clothes and encyclopedias. It's amazing and 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.480 at the at the food for less. But this is 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.599 way before the Internet people, because there's people listening to 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.640 us right now, they're like, what is an encyclopedia? Yeah, 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.360 like it used to It used to be a huge 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.520 deal to be hava Wikipedia on paper. It used to 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.160 be a huge deal to have access to Encyclopedia's right, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.000 you would go to the library and for me, you 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.800 had to do a school assignment or something you look 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.160 it up and information right, and I would go and 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.240 I would buy encyclopedias with the money that I had saved. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.320 And I would go and I remember on the front 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.760 side of the grocery store they had encyclopedias. You could 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.360 buy them one at a time, and I'd freaking save 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.480 up and for you know, seven dollars, I would buy eight, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.760 you know, a L and then I would go and 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.319 get a L to a So how many did you 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.720 end up buying? The well, the whole set, which my 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.240 uh step grandfather later in life ended up building a 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.800 bookcase for them. So they were probably you know, forty 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.839 or so you read those? I probably read them all. Yeah, 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.440 at that point I probably read through all of them 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.199 because it was really the only books that I owned, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.719 where the encyclopedias, and also bought them with my own 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.480 money and anything I bought my own money that I 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.360 was so proud of. Why do you think you were 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.520 so attracted to the idea of the encyclopedia? Have you 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.880 psychoanalyzed yourself? Um? I think that that was my road out, 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.120 and I don't know if I gave you a larger world. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.640 I just thought if I could educate myself, I could 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.920 go to the places that we're seeing on TV. Like 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.400 I just I knew if I needed to make it, 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:06.559 I had to get to the places I could see 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.520 on TV, if that was New York or Los Angeles 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.600 or wherever. You know. I thought, for me to do 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:12.760 what I want to do, I need to be where 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.280 the people are they're doing what I want to do, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.880 and the way to do that is to read books. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.880 And I knew I wouldn't be able to afford college. 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.360 So how do you get to college? You get good 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.280 grades that you get great, good grade you learned. So 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.840 I think it was just me even going through the 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.560 steps backward at seven years old. So how were your schools? 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.079 Meaning the education wasn't the best because there were small schools. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.400 Are the teachers? Again, you can ask about any school 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.440 and not great and me I went to a poor 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.160 public school. Um, I love my teachers looking back, because 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.280 they really did some extra for me because of my 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.840 socio economic situation, Like some of them really sucked our 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.440 next out for me at the times, helped. So in 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.800 that way, they were great. But my education wasn't good 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.000 unless I got got a good education from myself, which 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.040 comes back to reading the encyclopedia, which is reading and studying. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.400 I'm Clay Travis is the Winds and Lost his podcast 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.760 We're talking with Bobby Bones. Bobby Bones show uh at 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.080 Mr Bobby Bones on Twitter because he can't get the 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.400 guy who has the Bobby Bones Twitter handle too to 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.760 allow him to get it. So, um, you also had 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.600 some crazy injuries as you were growing up. You mentioned 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.480 that when you were six years old you had a 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.560 significant injury and that was the last time you saw 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.040 your dad also had an eye injury. What happened, like 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.160 growing up, you just had some wacky things happened to you, 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:30.520 Like talking to doctors now because there's a a lot more, 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.120 a lot more is known medically now about what we 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.040 went through then. Yeah, and so in my brain, which 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.040 I thought was an injury, but my right eye doesn't work. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.319 It gets eight percent vision, almost no vision of your 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.760 entire life, my entire life. What they think happened now 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.679 is that when I was, you know, inside of my mom, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.120 she was doing drugs basically, and so a lot of 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.640 me didn't develop. So my eye just didn't develop. It's 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.800 in my brain. They can't fix my eye, so it's 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:57.600 it's and they gave you a patch, right, they thought 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.360 they got the crap beat out, and it was terrible, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.400 like you were a pirate, like a kid, they they 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.240 and then you just said the patch you're not gonna work. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:04.840 If you had warned the patch, which your eyesight have 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.320 helped her, probably not. It was like a defeated purpose anyway. Yeah, 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.320 but I was doing what they thought I should do. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.760 Then can they do anything? Now? Nothing. I've been to 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.360 so many specialists and they go, if you get stem cell, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.480 you know, we probably do something, But no laser because 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.040 it's not in my eye, it's in my brain, so 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.080 in my brain it doesn't work down to my right eye. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.160 So that happened. I lived with that. But again, it 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:26.520 would be like if I had three and you had 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.160 two eyes, and I'm like, I can't believe you don't 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:29.520 have a third eye. I don't know what it's like 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.760 to have both working eyes. And I was still a 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.600 pretty good ball player two with one eye. So you 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.320 just you learn. And uh, for me, I also fell 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.560 off a house and ruptured a bunch of my organs 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.960 and have my spleen taken out. So but again, you know, 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.560 I I I was so young, it was just kind 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.560 of what I was handed and it was kind of normal. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.720 It was normal for me. Be sure to catch live 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.760 editions about Kicked the coverage with Clay Travis week days 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:01.880 at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. When you are 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.760 growing up, like I've read, also you study mentioned sports 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.040 like you idolized your high school football coach. I think 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.160 it was right. I depended on him. Yeah, for a 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.960 lot of things. I think he has instilled a lot 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.800 of the discipline that I still have in me today. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.680 His name was coach big Gandoff, and with him it 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.040 was they're just there aren't excuses, Like they don't exist 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.840 because they do nothing for you. And if you're working, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.160 if anything setting you back, you shouldn't let it exist, Like, 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.200 don't let anything pull you back. So it was I 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.920 don't live with excuses ever, even if they're real, legitimate excuses, 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.680 they just don't count with me and my show, with 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.760 my environment, like what can we do to move forward 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.320 instead of talking about why we moved back? So he 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.720 put that mindset into me early, and I think I'm 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.640 a pretty hard worker because I have a lot of 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.960 the values he had still to me too. You mentioned 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.160 watching David Letterman, you also were big sports fan. What 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.840 do you remember growing up in Arkansas? I know Razorbacks. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.400 We we recently went to go watch the World Series 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.880 game in Omaha. I know you're a huge Arkansas Razorbacks fan. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.680 What did they mean to you? And how much sports 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.720 did you watch growing up? It was all that we 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.200 have in Arkansas is all that we had, still all 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.520 that we have. Um So, Arkansas is a big deal 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.560 to anyone that comes from the state because you know, 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.440 in Arkansas we have no professional teams that's are you know, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:20.480 those are our Dallas Cowboys. So I watched everything. Umt 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.680 of those guys Razorback basketball years were I mean, I 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.080 was young, so I don't think I really appreciated it 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.960 how I should because I was like, oh, this is awesome. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.880 Will be there every year, you know, we go to 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.840 the championship, we we win the championship, It's like Nolan 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.960 Richardson's gonna be here forever. Forty mints of hell is 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.560 always gonna work. So but then we hit a dry 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:45.920 spell of almost forever. Uh So I listen, I'm die 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.880 hard everything Arkansas and basketball. And we had a couple 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.000 of good runs in football under Houston Nut. You know, 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.080 the big her with us was Tennessee and start bumbling 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.520 the full its one of the beds, one of the 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.920 last good memory Tennessee football fans have. Trust me, I 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.840 know I am one. And then ninety nine we beat 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.840 you guys, but it didn't matter, like but then it 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.320 mattered to Tennessee because they might have been in the 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.680 title game if they had no loss. That Petrino got 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.119 us close. Yeah, we were a game away. We were 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.000 playing L s U undefeated. Do you remember where you 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.520 were when you heard the Bobby Petrino, you know, like 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.480 wrecked his motory motorcycle scandal story. No, because it wasn't 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.720 that much of a shot to me. Too many friends 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.760 up there that told you that a little bit of happening. Yeah, 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.159 so I was like, I don't remember where I was 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.760 because I was like, well, something was gonna happen. This 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.960 is what they're saying. Would you have kept Petrino? Yeah, 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.640 of course, just because I just want to win, man. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.439 I think that's how most Arkansas fans are, right. If 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.639