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Speaker 1: How was it working with Wimby.

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Speaker 2: I say this humbly is one of the best five

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Speaker 2: basketball experiences I've ever had, period, and that's a lot

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Speaker 2: for me, Like winning state championship meeting and playing against

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, like you know what I'm saying, Like he's

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Speaker 2: up there on.

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Speaker 3: That short list of things in my life basketball wise, My.

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Speaker 4: My, my, Welcome back to the Ogs, my man, O

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Speaker 4: g over, They're getting ready.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Maker original presented by Draft Kings. What's up, man, Jamal.

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Speaker 1: Crawford, You rubbing off? I ain't never wear the same

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Speaker 1: outfit two shows in the row, Mike rubbing, Mike rubbing

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Speaker 1: out for me the wrong way.

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Speaker 3: J C.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't never to sound show to mother outfit

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Speaker 1: two shows in a row.

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Speaker 3: Yeah like that. He ain't doing that. He got a

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Speaker 3: represent will represent the whole fan anywhere, straight outfit.

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie to U. DM a call and they.

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Speaker 6: Signed out because every time this motherfucker had me on

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Speaker 6: an island getting ready to rock me to sleep, I

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Speaker 6: just follow him out.

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Speaker 1: To this day, to this day, one of the best

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Speaker 1: one v ones I seen with him and him and

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Speaker 1: d Wade playing against each other. But it was for

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Speaker 1: the guys that we just wasn't We just weren't part

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Speaker 1: of it? Were there?

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Speaker 2: See Mike getting know I was mad and Mike walked

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Speaker 2: with that rookie of the year from my draft class.

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Speaker 3: So I had to somehow get some.

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Speaker 2: Type of get back because you know, I went on that.

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Speaker 3: Level as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jamal. That that right there lets me know

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Speaker 1: that ship still bothers you, because because I'm the type

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Speaker 1: of person that I break rookie sophomore games, I'm the

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Speaker 1: type of person that ship like that bothers me too.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that bro. I love I love that.

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Speaker 5: Hey listen, hey, he got me back enough. I ain't.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna love get you on an island bore. That

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Speaker 5: ship was embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: See here you go. You was in Orlando, just living life.

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, t Mac. I'm like, man, I'm

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Speaker 2: in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Man, we losing. I ain't getting no shan. This is crazy,

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Speaker 2: ain't I ain't.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie now. I ain't gonna lie now, Jamal.

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Speaker 1: It was a quick, good drive from Gainesville Orlando. Him

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Speaker 1: and t Mac took good care of me. Now, oh,

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Speaker 1: nice little They took care of me. It was a

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Speaker 1: nice little ride from Florida to Gainesville to Orlando. The

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Speaker 1: boys showed love.

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Speaker 3: He sure love to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, ma, let me ask you them.

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Speaker 6: How do you get from how you're from Seattle to

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Speaker 6: Michigan to change?

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Speaker 1: Oh my bad. We're gonna let him.

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Speaker 3: Were gonna let him.

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Speaker 1: We're we're gonna let him.

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Speaker 3: Here you go, Here you go, you guys. Oh, jee's

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Speaker 3: enough to remember this.

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Speaker 2: So y'all remember the Pizza Hut when they had like

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Speaker 2: the basketballs at the time.

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Speaker 3: Like the Pizza Hut basketball and all that around the

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Speaker 3: c A tournament. So I was I was a big

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Speaker 2: I saw the Fab five and I'm like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: got the black socks, the baggy shorts, the ball, just

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Speaker 2: the swagger they played with. It seemed like somebody from

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Speaker 2: my neighborhood that went straight to the big time playing.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, Michigan had me in eighth grade.

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Speaker 2: They didn't even know it. I'll get back, I.

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Speaker 3: Make this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Michigan. So the opportunity came and then

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Speaker 2: I went. But when I got there, I'm like, Damn,

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Speaker 2: this is far. I don't know about this, but I

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Speaker 2: was already there there, so it didn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Hey, yo, I'm happy you said that. You talk about

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Speaker 1: being in the backyard because I tell my son all

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Speaker 1: the time. Man, some of the most creative moments you'll

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Speaker 1: have as a hooper is in the backyard with nobody

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Speaker 1: guarding you, with nobody, with nobody even there. Like, just

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Speaker 1: talk about that, because your creativity is pretty much unmatched,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Your creativity with the basketball

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Speaker 1: is unmanned. Just talk about where you get some of

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Speaker 1: that creativity from. Because I tell my son all the time,

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Speaker 1: if you need me to go out there with you,

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Speaker 1: then you in trouble. If you need me to go

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Speaker 1: with you, every time you in trouble, son, I can't

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Speaker 3: You're in trouble. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: And we got to as OG's, we got to keep

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Speaker 2: preaching and that, Like if you go to trainer every

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Speaker 2: day for two hours, that enough. If you love this

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Speaker 2: and you're really chasing this, like you're gonna spend so

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Speaker 2: many hours by yourself, You're gonna so many hours in

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Speaker 2: your room with that with the hangar hoop with the

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Speaker 2: pair of socks, just and mad being imagined that being creative.

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Speaker 2: I was a type to watch you know TV, see

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Speaker 2: try it. Tim Hardaways did that crossover. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 2: that etep right there and trying to learn it. And

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Speaker 2: I was the kid that I would go outside and

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Speaker 2: see how would rain a lot? Ain't nobody outside, so

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Speaker 2: I'm looking around, course, ain't nobody there.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, hem, I'm getting better.

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Speaker 2: So how we talked about, man, somebody in Chicago, somebody

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Speaker 2: in Florida right now working on the game. I was

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Speaker 2: that kid, but it gave me imagination. So I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: I had so many moves and things I didn't get

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Speaker 2: to do because I was thinking about this my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Like the past I did the Blake when I threw

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Speaker 2: it through my legs. I literally had that in my

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Speaker 2: O g's taught me that play. My sister's old boyfriend

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Speaker 2: JT from Detroit taught me that play.

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Speaker 3: Did it for a.

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Speaker 2: Layup, I did it to a pass and I had

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Speaker 2: that I'm like, I'm gonna do it in high school

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Speaker 2: didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: In Michigan we played Dude, didn't happen. So now I'm

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Speaker 2: just fast forwarding. But I had all these plays in.

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Speaker 2: But it comes from that imagination. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: what's missing the game and that's why we love players

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Speaker 2: in the game that brings that that creativity to the

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Speaker 4: And my dead ass and I mean this, it's gonna

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Speaker 6: I talk about this with people all the time. You

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Speaker 5: It right now? Hell yeah, I really, I really do.

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Speaker 5: Most one of the most unique people have ever seen,

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Speaker 5: Like at thirty nine, go out have fifty like like

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Speaker 5: like what is it?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: Do you take care your bid? Is it just just

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Speaker 5: like what is it?

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Speaker 2: Because it's that and it's just love, And it's like,

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Speaker 2: y'all right now if we're all in shape and we

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Speaker 2: could easily go play because our minds, first off, we

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Speaker 2: see the game differently.

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Speaker 3: So it's almost like Mayweather.

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Speaker 2: Right later in Mayweather's career, he was still crazy efficient,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't wasting energy, he wasn't taking punches, he

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Speaker 2: wasn't he was just gonna pick you apart. We can

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Speaker 2: pick him apart with their mind, just the way they

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Speaker 2: play right now, right. But then I'm always in shape,

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Speaker 2: So I'm always playing. I'm always me and you talked

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I'm always I would bro I'm

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Speaker 2: like Andre with his fluke. I pop up any work

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Speaker 2: like that's that's just what it is like. So I'm

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Speaker 2: always doing that. I'm always playing against kids. I played

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Speaker 2: against the high school team. They have some fans off

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Speaker 2: I want to help coach. They start talking too much.

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Speaker 2: I jumped out their bands and make sure we want

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Speaker 2: hit them. Warn these moves ain't seen me for yo.

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Speaker 1: No listen all bulls aside. Because I get a chance

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Speaker 1: to go to heat practice. And I was joking with

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Speaker 1: don't play defense until I make a shot. But I

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Speaker 1: get a chance, I get a chance to go to

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Speaker 1: heat practice, and like that. That part of it is.

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Speaker 1: It just it gives me all I need, Like all

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Speaker 1: you need is do whatever city you in is just

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Speaker 1: to stop by the court for an hour or two

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Speaker 1: or whatever that is and that just that fulfills you

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Speaker 1: and just gives you all you just you searching for

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Speaker 1: that competitive You got that competitive hunger that still drives

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Speaker 1: you to play this game of basketball. Mike, you this

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Speaker 1: this is minus all the beers. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna pull up and play.

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Speaker 3: But I see them playing of kids pull up outside.

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Speaker 1: You Mike was busting their ass. And Memphis though I

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Speaker 1: seen that, I was like, this must have been before

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Speaker 1: the bud Wises because I was watching them. I was

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Speaker 1: watching them clips. I was like, hold on, why the

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Speaker 1: of the clip At the end he went over and

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Speaker 1: had a cool little but Wiser sitting there when he

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Speaker 1: sat out after you smoked the motherfuckers. They show that

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Speaker 2: But but to your point, you do you remember when

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Speaker 2: we was growing up playing on the playground. The dude

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Speaker 2: wasn't drinking no gatoring. Oh g he was drinking no

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Speaker 2: in between games, yea with his brown fag.

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Speaker 1: You're right right, Mike, from the hood, I knew it.

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Speaker 1: Mike from the hood. I knew it for me.

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Speaker 2: I still I still go outside literally and I put

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Speaker 2: the beat toll and I play music. I played in

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Speaker 2: high school to get my zone, and I'll be out

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Speaker 2: there by myself to this day. I pull up on

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Speaker 2: a random park by myself, just going through drills, making

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Speaker 2: new drills, new ship to go through.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna brainwatch my son when I get home.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the first ten minutes. So it's got

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Speaker 1: damn podcast over and over, and his motherfucker's off and

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Speaker 1: let him because what I told him. He has a

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Speaker 1: game today and he plays at three o'clock. I mean

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Speaker 1: he plays at six o'clock and he get out of

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Speaker 1: school at three. He was like, what I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: to a game time? I said, my fucker, go shoot

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Speaker 1: in the gym.

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Speaker 3: Go shoot. I got.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I got three hours. What I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: with today's Go get your snack and take away to

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Speaker 1: the gym and shoot to game time? The hell you

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Speaker 1: mean with you?

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Speaker 3: And then after that, go watch some film, go watch

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Speaker 3: to get the inspiration whatever.

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Speaker 1: What the hell you were gonna do?

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Speaker 3: We grew up with.

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Speaker 1: It's your goddamn shots up and get a snack or something.

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Speaker 1: But I'll see your ass at six and you better

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Speaker 1: be ready. But you better be ready that ship. I've

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Speaker 1: got my motherfucking trypod. I'm making film, Nigga, were finna

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Speaker 1: get in, like you want to play, We're gonna play, motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: If you know how to play right, you're gonna play longer,

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Speaker 3: The colder stat. That whole thing was for that month.

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Speaker 2: First off, I averaged thirty one points six assists off

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, I took pride in that.

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Speaker 5: Why do you why do you stop playing? I'm being

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Speaker 3: Now because because honestly, they stopped me.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, you can't question my character. Then I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Even before Phoenix, I signed a day before the season.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, you know what, they want my brain.

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Speaker 2: You know, it is working out every day, don't know

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Speaker 3: I earned that right. So that's why I stopped playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, no, listen, I totally understand obviously being in

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Speaker 1: Fuck you, I'm gonna show you I can win whatever

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Speaker 1: You see that, this is when, this is when I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna figure it out, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. But it was no fault. It

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Speaker 1: was no far to me, It was no far to you. No, No,

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Speaker 5: Then too a great team.

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Speaker 3: And you did You did so much, bro, And I'm

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Speaker 2: You'll use you as an example so much because there's

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Speaker 2: Right were you gonna be like not not young fella.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that.

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Speaker 2: You got to move this way, and it may not

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Speaker 2: because if it's just one, what you did was down

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Speaker 2: That's what we had and that's why it set the

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Speaker 2: had Charles Oakley, Yes, I had Scottie Pippers, I have

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Speaker 1: And you know what about that was different is that

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Speaker 1: it's tough love. And I want the best for you.

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Speaker 1: So you're coming here, I'm gonna teach you how to win,

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Speaker 1: young fella. You know what I'm saying. So as you

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Speaker 1: This is how you're gonna get the where you want

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Speaker 1: gonna be here. You ain't finna fuck this up for us,

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Speaker 1: that's a fact. You know what I'm saying. But you

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Speaker 3: I don't make it twenty years. You don't make it

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Speaker 5: Fifteen, sixteen, seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen years, yes, come on, man, that's that's fifty seven

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Speaker 2: years between US three. Like, you don't make it like

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Speaker 2: Second off, if you're not like that thorough on and

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Speaker 3: That's not how it works. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And for for US three, well, Mike, your back was broken.

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Speaker 1: But for us you know what I'm saying, that's my

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Speaker 1: No but listen, like I'm I'm fucking with Mike. But

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Speaker 1: It was days where I would get up, dog, and

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Speaker 3: That's real.

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Speaker 1: It was day dog, I would get out. It was

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Speaker 1: was hard to get to that point, to to kind

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Speaker 1: It's haf me to get to that point. So I

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Speaker 2: I did, But what you don't understand, is me going

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Speaker 3: Sacrifice me making All Star? In All Star?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you sacrifice All Star and Mike noses now be

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Speaker 2: You're still preparing for me, like I'm the start, so

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Speaker 3: All Star.

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Speaker 6: By the way, it's funny too because and just a

440
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Speaker 6: touch on the six man, I think you could have

441
00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,320
Speaker 6: won six man every every year. To be honest with

442
00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,040
Speaker 6: you, you want a three times like that mentality. And the

443
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,720
Speaker 6: funny thing about the league is once they box you

444
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,880
Speaker 6: in because you should have you should have once they

445
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,720
Speaker 6: once they once they box you in there like the

446
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,399
Speaker 6: next team doesn't have enough eight balls or creativity understand like, oh,

447
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,440
Speaker 6: just could be the six man over there to sacrifice

448
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,440
Speaker 6: to win doesn't mean he can't be a frecking starter

449
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,639
Speaker 6: over here and be one of our key guys, right, Like,

450
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,320
Speaker 6: So it's weird because I think you get one every

451
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,359
Speaker 6: year winning three times. I want it one year and

452
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,520
Speaker 6: it was hard. I probably shouldn't because it's hard because

453
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,200
Speaker 6: the mentality every game going into it is like, yo,

454
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Speaker 6: like I don't a I don't know what I'm gonna

455
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,399
Speaker 6: go in there, but be what's the game gonna be

456
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,440
Speaker 6: like to flow? The game is always different, and you

457
00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,840
Speaker 6: gotta be You'll be like this is gonna be a

458
00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,120
Speaker 6: light switch and you're.

459
00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080
Speaker 2: A specialist because they know what what what you're coming

460
00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,240
Speaker 2: in for, like they're coming to stop that they know

461
00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,040
Speaker 2: exactly what you're coming in for. Yes, And that's why, honestly,

462
00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,240
Speaker 2: I was hoping I made All Stars and six Man

463
00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,280
Speaker 2: because I wanted to set the press in that way

464
00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,080
Speaker 2: like no, you're not a lesser then, Like, dude, my

465
00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,880
Speaker 2: team at the time the first time, I think we're

466
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 2: fighting for number one in the whole lead when they

467
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,679
Speaker 2: selected I'm a second lead score playing with two superstars

468
00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 2: and Chris and Blake and I'm leading the NBA at

469
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter scoring.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and dude, how could we not even?

471
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,639
Speaker 2: But I was hoping so the Lou Williams, so the

472
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 2: Tyler he Roes, these dudes who deserve to be All

473
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Speaker 2: Stars could do the same numbers they doing just starting

474
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,840
Speaker 2: the game, and they'd be All Star. But since you

475
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,480
Speaker 2: they're in a box of coming off the bench, you

476
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,480
Speaker 2: look at him that way. That's wrong, Bro, that's wrong.

477
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Speaker 1: I love the fact that you're speaking on this right now,

478
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Speaker 1: because if I rewind and if Tyler was sitting here

479
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Speaker 1: with me right now, he would tell you. When we

480
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,399
Speaker 1: made the move to make Tyler come off the bench,

481
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 1: and that summer, when the word got out that he

482
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Speaker 1: was going to come off the bench, I had a

483
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Speaker 1: conversation with Tyler, and the first thing I said to

484
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Speaker 1: Tyler is, this is not the NBA of the eighties.

485
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,880
Speaker 1: This is not the area of the nineties. You can

486
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 1: still make one hundred million, average twenty and still be

487
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 1: an All Star off the bench. And he didn't make

488
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Speaker 1: it that year. But I was thinking in the same

489
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Speaker 1: terms of what you were thinking, like, you're not less

490
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Speaker 1: than but he was young, he's younger. He was young

491
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Speaker 1: at that time, and obviously when you think come off

492
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Speaker 1: the bench, the first thing you think, it's less than

493
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Speaker 1: the first thing I told Tyler, I was like, d

494
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 1: if we win and you average twenty, you'll get your

495
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 1: money and you'll make All Star. And he got his money.

496
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Speaker 1: He did make All Star with like you said, he

497
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Speaker 1: should have.

498
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Speaker 3: He should have made I remember it.

499
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Speaker 1: But you're not less than you in my opinion, in

500
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Speaker 1: today's NBA, if you come off the bench, there might

501
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 1: have been a time. But like I said, guys like

502
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Speaker 1: you changed that stigma. I don't think you're less than

503
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Speaker 1: if you don't start coming off the bench.

504
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 2: See, and that's in our community. Think about how we

505
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 2: grew up. It was always even for when we as kids,

506
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 2: we run out to be the first five. Like if

507
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Speaker 2: somebody looks at the bitch we found about he hit

508
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 2: bench playing, So that that in my.

509
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,639
Speaker 3: Right mic like going back to that's exactly what it was.

510
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 2: But you're not less than And it means so much

511
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 2: to me because when I came off the bench, I

512
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 2: was just tired of being known as a good player

513
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 2: on bad teams. So I'm like whatever I went to

514
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 2: got trades to Atlanta, they got their starting fial they

515
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: went to the playoffs on them all good and it worked

516
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Speaker 2: out for me. But it's really cool now that I'm

517
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Speaker 2: older and I'm in the gyms and I see these kids,

518
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 2: and these kids is like thirteen twelve and I want

519
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 2: to be six man because you was doing I'm like,

520
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 2: that's crazy because that wasn't the goal. That wasn't a

521
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: plan back in the day, you know what I'm saying.

522
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: So it's cool that that's changing a little bit. But

523
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Speaker 2: Tyler and I hope somebody breaks through and becomes that

524
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: All Star off the bench because it got to be

525
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Speaker 2: rewarded as well.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 6: You talked about that year with CP and Blake, that

572
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Speaker 6: team was fun, man, talk about.

573
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Speaker 1: That it was scary. Russia was scary, boy. And then,

574
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Speaker 1: like you said, once you deal with the layers of

575
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576
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Speaker 1: and Mike and DeAndre, then we got to worry about

577
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Speaker 1: you coming off the bench in the fourth quarter. That

578
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Speaker 1: shit was scary, though.

579
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Speaker 3: Bro.

580
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you this, and

581
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Speaker 2: I ain't never said this. We saw y'all in China, right,

582
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: remember that? Yes, I remember that went to China. Yes,

583
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: I think d Way just signed with Lee Ning we

584
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Speaker 2: go to China. I signed with the Clippers that summer,

585
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Speaker 2: and y'all blow us out first game in China. It

586
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: didn't feel like a preseason game. It felt like a

587
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: real game. Y'all flew us out, and then we beat y'all.

588
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 2: We left China were like, man, we're gonna see them

589
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Speaker 2: in the finals, Like we literally gonna We just thought

590
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Speaker 2: we was gonna.

591
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Speaker 3: See you guys in the finals.

592
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: So to go back to what y'all are saying, bro,

593
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Speaker 2: I think we're one of the best teams to have

594
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: never been to the finals because we literally, at different

595
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: points we had every single piece you needed. I think

596
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: for like a five year stretch, we had like the

597
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: second and third most wins in the regular season, right,

598
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: and then immaturity injuries. There was a time when I

599
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Speaker 2: think the Spurs beat you guys in fourteen, you guys

600
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: being the thirteen they beat y'all fourteen.

601
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Speaker 3: We came back and played the Spurs in the first round.

602
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Speaker 2: If they won the championship, it goes seven games we

603
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Speaker 2: beat them, We're like, damn, we put out the defending champs.

604
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Speaker 2: All this is the year Chris gets hurt the last

605
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Speaker 2: game and we had the game when it shot as

606
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Speaker 2: Hamstring gets hurt. We still go up three to win

607
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: on the Rockets. It was so cold in game six

608
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: at home, We're up nineteen. We need to just finish

609
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Speaker 2: this quarter. We're going to the Western Finals, which we

610
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Speaker 2: think we're gonna be going State because Curry was hurt

611
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Speaker 2: at that time at first, but James Harden when they

612
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: came back in that game in game six, he didn't

613
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Speaker 2: play one minute in the fourth quarter. He was sitting

614
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: there with his like his clothes. You know, he's thinking

615
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: the games over. It was Josh Smith, Pablo Prizon, Jason Terry,

616
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Speaker 2: Corey Brewer that came back and walked us down, and

617
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 2: then they beat us in game seven, and that was

618
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Speaker 2: like our last real chance that we thought to go

619
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Speaker 2: to the finals.

620
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Speaker 1: A bunch of dogs just threw the dogs out there.

621
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Speaker 6: That's the type of ship, though, when you retire that stuff,

622
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Speaker 6: you missed those playoffs series.

623
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Speaker 3: I've never got over that.

624
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: That that's the ship, you.

625
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: Know, I never got over that, Brover. That was our

626
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 2: best chance. But the ship like our practices. So our

627
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Speaker 2: second union at one time is myself blessed, so Lamar

628
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Speaker 2: Oldham Matt Barnes too. So we're going to get to start. Yeah,

629
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Speaker 2: our practices, bro are crazy and were talking ship, were

630
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Speaker 2: going at it like and we won a lot. I

631
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: ain't we won a lot of second unit, but we

632
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: went at it and then and y'all can look this up.

633
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: There was a stretch for I think in a month.

634
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: The stories didn't play in the fourth quarter because once

635
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: it was even even then we came in, the.

636
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: Game was over with. They didn't have to come back.

637
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's first year in a Yeah, that's how you

638
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: want to practice.

639
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: Though.

640
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: That reminds me. First, that reminds me of the year

641
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: we had the Big Three, and then we had Mike

642
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: coming off the bench and myself and I think Rashad

643
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Lewis and we had Ronnie Terry off ended up being

644
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Speaker 1: with us. But those were the type of practices that

645
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Speaker 1: we had obviously until Lebron just took his ship to

646
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Speaker 1: another level where nobody couldn't go to But can we can.

647
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Speaker 3: We talk about Lebron for seconds, were talking.

648
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: That dunk last night, that it was crazy.

649
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't. You would have to put like

650
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Speaker 3: Magic Johnson Vince Carter.

651
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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like I've never seen someone who is

652
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: so smart and so athletic.

653
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: Those two are supposed to go together like that.

654
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Speaker 2: And the way he takes pictures of the game, like

655
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: he's in his mind in the game before he even

656
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: puts any athleticism in the game.

657
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Speaker 3: Listen, if you still win mill off the wrong foot

658
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: with the left hand, Like, bro, what are we doing?

659
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: If you're a low IKE, if you're a low IQ coach,

660
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: you can't coach Lebron because he'll he'll put you to shame.

661
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: He'll he'llmbarrass you. If you're a low IQ coach, he'll

662
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: put you to shame and you can't coach him. And

663
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: if you're a low IQ IQ player, he gonna get

664
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: you out of there because he can't tolerate that. He

665
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: can't tolerate that.

666
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: Ship.

667
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Your basketball IQ has got to be up to park. Now,

668
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: most guys basketball IQ ain't gonna be on his level.

669
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: But if you're a coach, he's gonna embarrass you if

670
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: you don't have a good basketball IQ. And if you're

671
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: a player, he gonna get fuck up here, gonna get

672
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 1: your fun up out of there if you ain't got

673
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: a good basketball IQ, because he is just his basketball

674
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: IQ is just that great.

675
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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable to still watch what he's doing.

676
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: Like I saw a stat it was I think from

677
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: his sophomore year of high school till present day, he's

678
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: only not average twenty five points twice. I was like, what,

679
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: from sophomore or high school to present day he's only

680
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: got average twenty five twice, two or three times.

681
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: I wonder what that was. Would that have been though?

682
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: I think it was his rookie year because he averaged

683
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: twenty and I think today I think he's right under

684
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: twenty five.

685
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: Today, I think he's like twenty four.

686
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 5: That's a ridiculous stat.

687
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: And it's coming from somebody who said that they don't

688
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: want they don't want to score like he wanted to make.

689
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: Come off.

690
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never really wanted to be a scorer, you know.

691
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: I just like to play basketball. I just like to

692
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: make the right plays and play back, which he does.

693
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: He does like to make the right play and he

694
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: does rather pass. It's not just something he's saying. Lebron

695
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: would like to make the right play. And pass the basketball.

696
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: But he is so fucking gifted that somebody that has

697
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: that mindset can still be the fucking number one scorer

698
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: in the whole league history.

699
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: So let me let me ask you all this, and

700
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: y'all see it up close. Both y'all played with him.

701
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to compare him to any players. Let's

702
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: just keep him on him right now. What's your favorite

703
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: version of him?

704
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

705
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: Heat?

706
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: No, that version, the Mimai heat version. Yes, And I'll

707
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: just give you I'll give you one, and I'll give

708
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: you one. No, I'll just give you one example. That

709
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: motherfucking game in Boston when that goddamn bus showed up

710
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: an hour and a half before the game, and an

711
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: hour and a half before the game, we get on

712
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: that bus and that motherfucker, that motherfucking bus, that motherfucking buss,

713
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: he ain't speaked the whole time he met because Bron

714
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: he's a routine. He's like a fucking robot. He has

715
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: a routine that he goes through a the fucking b

716
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: that bus showed up and we had about an hour

717
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: and a half before the kit tip off. Now you

718
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: know the coup fuck this whole routine up. He didn't

719
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: speak the whole time. We got to that motherfucking arena

720
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: and we me, we all we like we fucking rambling

721
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: trying to get our socks on. We fucking doing ship.

722
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: We're like, yo, we gotta hurry up. Game about the start.

723
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Were in the playoffs.

724
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: Now.

725
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: We looked back against the wall. We looked over at Bron. Bron,

726
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: let me take my glass off. Bron looked at us

727
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: with his face. Mother fucking looked at us, and he

728
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: did like this, I don't worry about it. Just fine,

729
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. We'll be all right.

730
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 6: Well, I looked at I said, come on, killer here,

731
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 6: look at me, say kill. I'm throwing everything out. I'm

732
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: shooting every bullet, the gun, the clip out thrown at him.

733
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw the gun at him. I said, then

734
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: we're gonna be fined.

735
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Man. That mother, that motherfucker came out with a gatling

736
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Gun't listen, it was I don't give a fuck. We

737
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: were we were great teammates, and he had help. But

738
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't give if you put Larry, Curly and Mo

739
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: out there with him that night, that motherfucker was coming

740
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: home with that dug. People coming home with that, duboy,

741
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: go back and.

742
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: Watch this game, boy, watch the most amazing game.

743
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: That we showed up an hour and a half before

744
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: the tip.

745
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 6: Off, and and understand something all real quick, like we

746
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 6: just get beat, because you gotta have the whole context

747
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 6: of we get beat the year before to Dallas, which

748
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: we got walked down.

749
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: We should have beat him in the final, right, you

750
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 5: go into.

751
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 6: The next season. Chris Bosk is hurt y. So we're

752
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: we're in game six out I believe it was out Box.

753
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 6: I the can came back game step and.

754
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: I gotta remember, look, yeah, Chris Bosh got hurt, but

755
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: you know you want to win and put you d in.

756
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: We got that.

757
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 5: We figured that I gotta paint the whole picture, you

758
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

759
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 6: Like, so, so we go into this if we were down,

760
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 6: we're down three too, going into Boston.

761
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: Three two three two going into Boston.

762
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 5: Bro Yes, well that's what their intentions are. Obviously. He

763
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: comes in here and I'm telling you, it's the best

764
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 5: game I've ever watched my own.

765
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: I don't know the exact numbers, but it's literally like

766
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 6: forty sixteen to nine on like five misses.

767
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 5: Man, it went like seven like twelve straight shots.

768
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, amazing. Every time he made a shot,

769
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 1: the fucking crowd like they had stomach cramps. I mean,

770
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: the ship got it was like until the point where

771
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: just nobody wasn't saying shit no more, Like everybody was

772
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: just fucking quiet like that ship. That ship is crazy.

773
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so. I'm so amazed with him.

774
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 6: Anyways, though, beause if we talked about, yes, what what

775
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 6: what version of him was the best? Obviously Miami one,

776
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 6: because that leticism with it was so elite and he

777
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 6: was so fast and strong, and I saw it every

778
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 6: day in practice. He talked about it like there's levels

779
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 6: to it.

780
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 5: Man.

781
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 6: He brought that every single day, like that's the thing

782
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: you people understand, Like he came into practice the same mentality.

783
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: Yes, and he was trying to kill people greatness.

784
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: Yes.

785
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 6: And then I go to him with Cleve I a

786
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 6: year ago, back to Memphis, and then I go with

787
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 6: him to Cleveland after the following year. His athleticism actually

788
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 6: came down just a little bit. But then he started

789
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 6: shooting the ball better and he started freaking figuring out

790
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 6: the spots better.

791
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: I was like, he stop.

792
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 6: And then yeah, And when I first when I first

793
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 6: saw him, like, I'm like, go man, you know, because

794
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 6: that was the year. The year coming from that, he

795
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 6: was jumping over dudes, dunking off cat like. He was

796
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 6: like like that and then he kind of get it

797
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: back again. I'm like, this dude's not human man like,

798
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 6: he's not He's not human.

799
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: Bro, It's just amazing.

800
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: Like someone asked me, someone asked me in Cleveland when

801
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 6: I left there, how many years you think he got

802
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 6: left at this level? And I was like, I was like, bro, like,

803
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 6: I mean, he's fucking so good. Like I can see

804
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 6: probably another two three and he's still doing it.

805
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 3: He's still doing it.

806
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: He's still doing it and still can do it. It's

807
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: gonna be his mental challenge, like all right, am I

808
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: just board do I gotta do? I have any mean

809
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: to take the cold bask and do it ship every day.

810
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: They gonna be something where I'm like, I can't play

811
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: no more.

812
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

813
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: Hey, moll, the motherfucker came out, so you at this

814
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: level for the four five five years, start talking about five.

815
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: To seven and he ain't lying.

816
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

817
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: The question for him was gonna is gonna be honestly

818
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: because he's been to the mountaintop and he's won championships?

819
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: Is it worth it if I really don't have a

820
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: championship roster around me?

821
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: Right?

822
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that would be the

823
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: question that he has to ask himself every year. You know,

824
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: no to no fault to JJ. That's just not a

825
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: championship roster. That's just really not that's just reality that

826
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with JJ. That is not

827
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: a championship roster. So the question that Bron is gonna

828
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: have to ask himself is if they don't put a

829
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: championship roster around him and a D, does he still

830
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: want to do it? Because what else he doing it for?

831
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Like he's got the records, Like now I'm playing for them,

832
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: play for championship because I know what that feels like

833
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: that that's the only thing that going home in the finals,

834
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: losing don't make me feel good.

835
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: Whereas now the win, I'm just gonna play with Brownie

836
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: and make sure you know what I'm saying. Like, that's

837
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: a whole different level of winning. Right, So it could

838
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: be that that's.

839
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: A great point.

840
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: This next segment is brought to you by DraftKings.

841
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 6: Speaking of championship rosters, who you like in the West

842
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 6: and the East right now, because.

843
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: You're always the East.

844
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: I still like Boston, but I think New York, healthy

845
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: and right could be a formidable opponent. I always always, honestly,

846
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: I think Cleveland's more regular season. I always had Miami

847
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: as a dark horse school. There's a lot going on

848
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: right now, so I'm gonna just keep them to aside

849
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: for a minute. But I think I think New York's

850
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: the biggest threat to Boston. The way they shoot it,

851
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: in their spacing, and they've mastered, and I've watched them close.

852
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: Now they've mastered. They're not caught up in egos caps like, Okay,

853
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: I'll be the Man of Knight, brunching you the man.

854
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: They don't care, and their team is built like that,

855
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: and you know how it is. Most of the time,

856
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: it's egos. Know I'm the top dog, and it's got

857
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: to be like that. Every night. They'll float between Batman

858
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: and Superman. They don't care. Tonight, you get forty, Tomorrow,

859
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: I'll get forty, and let's just keep rolling. They got

860
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: players around them, and they're still missing Mitchell Robinson.

861
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: Who's a rim protector. So that I like.

862
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: I like them right as a as a as a

863
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: threat to Boston if there is one in the West.

864
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm messed up.

865
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you because I thought when

866
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: Phoenix was healthy, before k got hurt the first time, like, oh,

867
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: they may break through. I thought the Olympics put him

868
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: and Booker back on the same page. I thought they

869
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: was gonna be playing, you know, and then injuries happened.

870
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: So the West, I'm gonna need y'all's help on the West,

871
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: I don't know ship I'm going okay, see you know what,

872
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: And I might ride with you. You might ride with

873
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: you on that.

874
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I like I like a dog

875
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: pound down here.

876
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah you do.

877
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.

878
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: I might ride with Okay, See though, why you d.

879
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: Why Because I'm a big fucking Hartenstein fan. That motherfucker

880
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: he is. I'm telling you that that motherfucker makes checking stats,

881
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: you ain't got to run now and play for him.

882
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: And at the end of the game, the motherfuckern have

883
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: sixteen points, fourteen rebounds, two three blocks, six assists and

884
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: he only played like twenty five thirty minutes. And this

885
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: is what check out. This is what check out. You

886
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and they haven't missed a fucking beat.

887
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: They'll still have the number one record in the West.

888
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: That motherfucker, I'm telling you when you watch what the

889
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: Knicks are missing. Yeah, Mitchell Robinson is gonna help their

890
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: rimp protection. But in the playoffs they're gonna miss Hartenstein.

891
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they will.

892
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: They miss Hartenstein. He tough, toughness, he got all that shit.

893
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: I think.

894
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: I think, okay, see brought like a college style of

895
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: togetherness to the pros. Yes, like how they built the team,

896
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: how they play, and they got a real dog leading them,

897
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: like sja is for real, for real, real dogs really

898
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: talk about dogs, like Edwards and he's like, nah, he didn't.

899
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: When people like that say shit like that about you,

900
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: you already know what time it is. So I think

901
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: and they're young enough and they and they almost oblivious

902
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: enough where the moment's not too big.

903
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, what it is.

904
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: I called it out, go ahead, killer, go ahead killer.

905
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: No.

906
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 6: I think the big listen, SGA is is we ain't

907
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: got to talk about that a dog. The question is

908
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 6: is And I think Jaylen Williams is freaking the man.

909
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 6: I think he's really good. Is he gonna be that

910
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 6: second fiddle throughout the whole playoffs, that playoffs.

911
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: I know he's really good.

912
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 6: I know he's really good man, but he hasn't been

913
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 6: He had a little experienced last year. Like the Hardt

914
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 6: we've talked about all the time. Bro Sga is gonna

915
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 6: win you a couple of games in the East playoff series.

916
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 6: That's how good he is. The other guy is gonna

917
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 6: have to do that.

918
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 5: Same fucking thing.

919
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 6: And the and the role players win one game and

920
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 6: they have enough their depth, Their depth is elite. They're

921
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 6: really really good defensively with Carusso and lou Like they're

922
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 6: frecking defensively, and when check comes back defensively, they're gonna

923
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 6: be laite. But there's there's something there, man, I'm telling

924
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: you it's gonna be again. They're probably the favorites. I

925
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 6: would say, might let me let me add one more

926
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 6: thing to that. And and I covered the playoffs last year.

927
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 6: We had a bunch of different teams. They have another

928
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 6: star there too, and his name is Mark Dagnall. He

929
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 6: was as impressed. He he was so impressive.

930
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: And I think the way he manages a game, the

931
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: way he manipulates the game as well, he's seeing stuff

932
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: out there in a whole different spectrum, almost like he

933
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: got some spoke with him, you know what I mean,

934
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Like he's he's like a star over there. So I

935
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: got to give this props. He is impressive to any coach.

936
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: We talked to you last and we talked about it.

937
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: We talked about offensively, and we talked about the coaching staff.

938
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: But they got two guys and Caruso and shout out,

939
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: shout out my dog, the haitious sensation. They got two

940
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: guys that can defensively lock in old motherfuckers and make

941
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: your fucking series hell for seven games.

942
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: Mind you, mind you? Whyle s g A is still

943
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: over there quietly. I call the motherfucker a sense He's

944
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: a sense master, quietly slicing your ass up quietly, and

945
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: he ain't sweating, And he got thirty five and ten

946
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. They got it, bro,

947
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: I'm trying to.

948
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 5: Tell you they got I can't hardly argue.

949
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

950
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 6: I think it's just seeing that next step, like everyone

951
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 6: will see that next time and it might be this year.

952
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: And they got that brotherhood and that connection you talked about, Jamal,

953
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: that brotherhood and that connection when the series get tough

954
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: and it's three three. The most connected locker room is

955
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: what's gonna win Game seven?

956
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: And they're gonna have home court.

957
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: We know how tough it is playing okay, see and

958
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: and y'all know I had a bad I had a bad.

959
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: You had a Burken Boy had.

960
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: Even though dir I looked at like, I gotta figure

961
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: him out because he he's strong, he can move, he

962
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: takes that challenge.

963
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 5: I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

964
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: I want to figure it out some time. I figured

965
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: it out.

966
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you had a.

967
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 6: Ye, especially at least, but I got that. You got

968
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 6: you can figure that out for sure. That's gonna be interesting.

969
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 6: It's gonna be fun. Playoffs.

970
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Look, I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it.

971
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: Now that we're talking about playoffs and basketball and you

972
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: working games, some interesting things coming for you in the future.

973
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be looking for that, brother. Congrats. Yeah, man,

974
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing.

975
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: The future for me. Yeah, excited about the future.

976
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy because after after I stopped playing officially,

977
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: I threw myself in the coaching kids, starting with the

978
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: sixth graders and then from there, like I went on TV.

979
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: Ain't feeling for Chuck. I'm like, all right, Like I

980
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: still didn't think that was my future. And then it

981
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: started with studio, as y'all know, and then it's graduated

982
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: to games. So I just I want to own this space.

983
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: Like you said, you took it as a challenge when

984
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: they were doing that with.

985
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: You late in your career.

986
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: I'm taking this as a challenge and calling games. I

987
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: feel like I can. I can kind of make my

988
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: own way. And I've passed some great mentors and great

989
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: people to work with, Kevin Harlan and Mike Breen, he's

990
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: his goats, Reggie Miller. So for me, I'm learning so

991
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: much and I want to be as good as I

992
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: was on the court in that space.

993
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about the future for sure, Dope.

994
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a chance to work with you, bro,

995
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: and obviously you know, oh we had a ball. You

996
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: dropped some gyms on me being on that side.

997
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: Man, you dropped on me too.

998
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: And you know what, Mike, when it was me and him,

999
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: I feel like it was nas and Jay he say something,

1000
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: I look, okay, he got done that.

1001
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: When he come back, we just going back and forth Forwarth.

1002
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: It was on some ross was do what I'm saying,

1003
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: it was dope, but it kept everything light.

1004
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: It kept everything dope and kept everything sharp. That's my guy, And.

1005
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: You made me comfortable, Bru. I would have telled you

1006
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: that because being on a set with another player as

1007
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: opposed to, like you said, guys like you know time

1008
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: to bring just all these guys that didn't play but

1009
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: in a great respect for what they do as an analysis,

1010
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: and but sitting next to another player, you know what

1011
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, somebody that speaks the same language as you.

1012
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: It just made me more comfortable.

1013
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: Bro.

1014
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: So shit, I'm looking forward to seeing you on that

1015
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: next on that next level.

1016
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 3: And you and you were a rising star as we

1017
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: all know, like you do you.

1018
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: I love when you d When ug is coming on

1019
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 2: any platform I'm watching because I know he's gonna drop something.

1020
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: It's gonna be something that connects everybody, but it's also

1021
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 2: on connect culture and I love that because it's somebody

1022
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: that's representing all of us up there and he's making sense,

1023
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: he's speaking the truth, and he did it at the

1024
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: highest level.

1025
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: So we always loving you on there. We got it.

1026
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: Appreciate you dog, everybody. Everybody can't be an agent like

1027
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: you might. We gotta go out here.

1028
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we can't do that.

1029
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: We got we gotta go out here and work five ship.

1030
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1031
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 5: Just so bad, Mike.

1032
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: What's what's been the.

1033
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: Biggest surprise with doing it being a former player?

1034
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: Like, what's surprised you the most?

1035
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 6: I think just understanding the process of what goes into

1036
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 6: like teams making.

1037
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: Their decisions, you know what I mean. Like as a player,

1038
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 5: as a player, you were you you looked at.

1039
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 6: The front office completely different as you do as an

1040
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 6: agent as a player looks like, oh, they know exactly

1041
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 6: what's going on. And what you realize is that you know,

1042
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 6: stuff's last minute for them too, and they're not planning

1043
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 6: a lot of things and they got to work and

1044
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 6: react and they see the game obviously a little bit

1045
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 6: different than players do. So that's been a little bit

1046
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 6: of a challenge. Is like sometimes you wonder if you're

1047
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 6: watching the same game you're watching.

1048
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: But right as athletics, they use the analytics for everything.

1049
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 6: I was like, man, that basketball, man, they're definitely they're

1050
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 6: definitely into the analytics a lot, you know what I mean.

1051
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 6: And so like I'm in the we're in the old

1052
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 6: school part, like to me analytics to confirm with our

1053
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 6: I see some of them kind of flip through like

1054
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 6: they solely based on analytics, which again there's no right

1055
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: or wrong answer, but that's been a challenge. And then

1056
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 6: just understanding like young kids coming through it, like the

1057
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 6: awareness of them still we talked about it, right is

1058
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 6: I think they need people like us in their corner.

1059
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 6: I think they really really need it. But you said earlier,

1060
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 6: we have the cheat code, we've seen it. We're not

1061
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 6: gonna be one hundred percent right, but we can almost

1062
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 6: tell you exactly how it's gonna play out if you

1063
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 6: if you live by this code.

1064
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: Sure, And that's that's.

1065
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 6: That's really where I've you know, I think I've arrived

1066
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 6: this business is like just being real with his dudes, right, Like,

1067
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 6: don't tell them what they don't want to hear, tell

1068
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 6: what they need to hear.

1069
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 5: So it's been.

1070
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: Funks you talked about obviously killer you touched on it

1071
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: with the next generation and telling them what they need

1072
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: to hear. How was it working with winby Jamal and

1073
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: how is that? How is that getting in the gym

1074
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: with him and we kind of touched on it a

1075
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: little bit, but yes, you elaborate on it a little more.

1076
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1077
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, man, is it's like you see something

1078
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: from a distance and you're like, oh, man, he's a unicorn.

1079
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: He's seventy five. He can do this, he can choot threes,

1080
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: he can dribble. But that's not the most impressive part

1081
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: about him. Seeing him up close and going to dinners

1082
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: with him and hear in his mind and how he

1083
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: thinks and how I'm like man, like my man's conversations

1084
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: would like you guys think you were talking to like

1085
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: a fifty year old dude, because he's so brilliant the

1086
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: way he prepares and the game means everything to him,

1087
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, And he's like he's like a role player

1088
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: and like this unicorn all in one. Like he's not like,

1089
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: oh okay, man, I'm an unicus. I should have got

1090
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: the ball right there. He's like, I ain't get it.

1091
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: I'll go chase the rebound and get it. I'll spreading

1092
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: down court. And he doesn't care about anything other than

1093
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: like winning, that's all he cares about. Like he knows

1094
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: he's different. He appreciates that, he respects him, but his

1095
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: respect for the game. He wants to talk to the greats.

1096
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: He wants to see what pushed them. He wants to

1097
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: see how it can make him better. Almost like how

1098
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: we hear the Kobe's, Lebron's George, how all them dudes

1099
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: were getting information and he wants all that information, but

1100
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: to see him up close. I say this humbly is

1101
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: one of them. That's five basketball experiences I've ever had, period,

1102
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 2: and that's a lot for me, Like winning state championship,

1103
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: meeting and playing against Michael Jordan, like you know what

1104
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like he's up there on that short list

1105
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: of things in my life basketball wise, with just who

1106
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: he is. I was I couldn't believe it. I could

1107
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: not believe it. That's impressive.

1108
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 6: Aud you know obviously Seattle, Big Polo came from there.

1109
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 6: He saw Paula grow up and that whole story. So

1110
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 6: and he was telling me, tell it's a funny story.

1111
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 6: Paula just told it to me before we got out here.

1112
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 6: Was when Kyrie first.

1113
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah so so so Kai comes out. This was going

1114
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: into his last year in Boston U D. And if

1115
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: you remember the year before that, he was hurt, so

1116
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: he missed like the second half of the season, so

1117
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: he hadn't played five and five at all. So coming

1118
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: into that last year in Boston, Uh, he was like,

1119
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: yoanna be out Washington, stay for the month, Let's get

1120
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: it in. So I set up like runs for him.

1121
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: I had Zach Lavine, I had the Great Bill so

1122
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: there watching. I had uh Dejhontay Murray, and I had

1123
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: this fifteen year old kid in the runs, and you know,

1124
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: he's like, yo, you know, I matist Staible. I had

1125
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: college guys. And because I was like, yo, what college

1126
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: points in the fifty, we were down the line, Who's who,

1127
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: What's what? The guys he didn't know. He's like, yo,

1128
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: who's that fifteen year old? I'm not fifteen? He said,

1129
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: who's that college kid? And I said who him? I

1130
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: point to Polo. I'm like, oh, he's fifteen. He's like

1131
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: what It's like, yeah, he's fifteen. At the time, he

1132
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: was like six eight six y nine, still strong, but

1133
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: knew how to play. So it's been dope to see

1134
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: PA's journey, not only because the superstar we knew he

1135
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: would be. Like even in those runs, he went from

1136
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: like the road dude, Okay, I'm just gonna rebound and

1137
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: put it back and set screens to each year he's grown,

1138
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: so we have pro runs out here. So he started

1139
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: with just the rebounding dude to graduate till I'm on

1140
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: this team, and I'm like, you the man here, you

1141
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: got it. I'm the point now. You made me go

1142
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: to be in the point guard to get you the ball. Here,

1143
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: you got it. Now, we're here for I stopped runs.

1144
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: It's summer. I stopped to run, and I would see playing.

1145
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: But I was supposed to play a lot of young guys,

1146
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: and Paulo was out there, and Polo so nice. He's

1147
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: a great kid, great young man. I shouldn't say kid,

1148
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: a great young man. And people are shooting that shouldn't

1149
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: be shooting. They trying to show him he can play.

1150
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: I'm like old time out everybody bringing in. We're here

1151
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: for him. We're not here for for y'all to show

1152
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: what you can do. We're here for this dude. Jay

1153
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: McDaniels exactly me, these pros to get what they need

1154
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: out of it. And then you standing down with that

1155
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: starting your role because he's not gonna say it. So

1156
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: I said it for all of them, and they everybody like,

1157
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: oh okay, we got the assignment, and that's that's part

1158
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: of being o G. But I had to make sure

1159
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: the run was fulfilling for all those dudes, especially him.

1160
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 6: Give you give, give you your top five Seattle players,

1161
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 6: because I'll tell.

1162
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: You, man, I knew he was gonna do this.

1163
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 6: I was thinking, I'm saying, getting getting no P the

1164
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 6: way I have, and then obviously knowing you, like you

1165
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 6: don't realize who all came out of it, and I

1166
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 6: saw you at campus last summer, like when I go

1167
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: down there, like you're like, damn.

1168
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: He was He's from Yeah, I don't think he's the world. No,

1169
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: I don't think the world knows. Y'all got a hoop

1170
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: bed out there, bro, I don't think the world knows that.

1171
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: Noah. No, we do, we really do. And it just

1172
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: came from like nineteen ninety.

1173
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Doug Christi, Nate Robinson, Isaiah Thomas,

1174
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: Brandon Roy of course, and Jason Terry. Then I'm gonna

1175
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 2: give you five more that's gonna be on the list.

1176
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: Desjonta Murray, Zach Levine.

1177
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: And you motherfuckers as buckets too. We talk, we talking

1178
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: about it we talk. Yeah, we talked about it straight up.

1179
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: If yeh ain't no point, you're gonna get thirty five

1180
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: for your no.

1181
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: No, we come we we come to the arena with

1182
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: a chip on our shower. Yeah, you feel like we overlooked.

1183
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: We're in the northwest part of the country. People saying rain,

1184
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: people like that black people. And see how people we

1185
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: already underestimated.

1186
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We already coming with that chip.

1187
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: And we got hoopers and they cut from a certain

1188
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: cloth and steal sharp and steel. So we're always in

1189
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: the gym, were always hooping, We're always going at each other.

1190
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: You can walk in the gym as a key and

1191
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: polow was this kid.

1192
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: You can walk in the gym as an eighth grader

1193
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: and right in front of your face you can see

1194
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen pros playing right there, and you can sit

1195
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: there and watch. They gonna give you game, they gonna

1196
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: talk to you. I gotta put Doug Christie on their

1197
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: shout out to him, coach, and I hate to see

1198
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: Mike Brown get Doug Christie is doing an amazing job.

1199
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: That's my og. But yeah, so it's like it's so

1200
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: accessible and it's really impressive because you think about the

1201
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: Sonics left in two thousand and eight. We have thirty

1202
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: pros since two thousand and eight with no NBA team,

1203
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: So that shows the impact in the community the pros

1204
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: have had because we've never left. That eighth grader can

1205
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: text me that tenth grader context polom that eleven greater

1206
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: contexts dejonte and get information. Can you break down this

1207
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: film for me what you see? Can I get a

1208
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: gym with you? All those things? So now that next

1209
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: generation is already rolling, and that's how we do it

1210
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: up here. I think that's what makes it special. It's

1211
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: not that crabs in a bucket mentality.

1212
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I'm not.

1213
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 6: I obviously not from there, have been there very often

1214
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 6: besides once Seattle left, but being back there a little

1215
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 6: bit I have now with what you're saying is exactly right.

1216
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 6: I think it's why he's going to be special, why

1217
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 6: he already is, but because you start seeing it when

1218
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 6: you're right, like, damn, these dudes are completely different right here,

1219
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 6: Like they want everyone to win.

1220
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 5: That doesn't happen.

1221
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's enough for everybody.

1222
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: And I saw Doug Chrissy did it for me and

1223
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: when I went to Drafted by Chicago, I saw Antoine

1224
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: walk over here, Tim Hardwell over here at Mike Finley

1225
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: and they were working out together. But I just didn't

1226
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: see that camaraderie to that degree off the court doing

1227
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: events together. If he has a camp, follow us better go.

1228
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: If I'm doing a pro am, ten are coming. If

1229
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: Dejontay's doing the camp, seven are going. Like That's how

1230
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: it should be, and that's what makes it special because

1231
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: we all pushing each other, but we're gonna all root

1232
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: for each other as well, help each other and help

1233
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: the next generation.

1234
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: Now that's real shit. That's how that shit should be.

1235
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: I love him. I love to hear that. Man. I

1236
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: want to ask you this just recently, James Well, I

1237
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: don't know. Four point plays like that shit is crazy

1238
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: to even have that kind of record, James Harden pass you,

1239
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: but like, what the fuck, Jamal? Four point players?

1240
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna tell you what this is where it

1241
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: comes from.

1242
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: You d And I knew you would get mad at

1243
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: me sometimes when I get them fouls against Miami.

1244
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: And you'll look at the ref like you are free willing.

1245
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: But this what happened. This happened.

1246
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: He had he had to straight back too. At the time,

1247
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 3: he had to straight back.

1248
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: But my my ninth grade coach shout to Dom Wavefo

1249
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: when I was a freshman. He said, college guys and

1250
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: pros get their shot from here here as quick as possible.

1251
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: So when he told me that, I went home and

1252
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: I worked on it. So I think full circle. That's

1253
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: why I got fouled so much, because I put you

1254
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: to sleep, and I get it from here here. If

1255
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: I get it from here here and you don't contest,

1256
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: what's the first thing a coach gonna say in the

1257
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 2: film session.

1258
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 3: Now you gotta contest.

1259
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: So they're trying to contest, and I'm gonna use that

1260
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: against I'm Dallas, I'm a gazemanship. I'm gonna bring it

1261
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: to the forefront and it's some contact. And at that

1262
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: point that part's easy. I already see the who Bro.

1263
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: The hardest part of the four point play for me

1264
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: was a free throw?

1265
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: Isn't that that ship? That ship is in this Do

1266
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: you know that ship was in the scout rood? A

1267
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: free throw ship was in the scout report where we

1268
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: played you bro?

1269
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 3: Was it?

1270
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? Do not file him on three yes? Four

1271
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: point plays like do not file him on threes four

1272
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: point plays? You the You know what, if I'm not

1273
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: mistaken you the reason we probably start side contesting. We

1274
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: do the side the side contest. Now it's this contest

1275
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: from the side killer.

1276
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: You did that?

1277
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: Think about that, right, So if the scout report is

1278
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: saying don't foul him, mentally, you're already giving me a

1279
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: free shot because you're not gonna really contest.

1280
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: You'll be there a little bit. But I already got

1281
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: a free one.

1282
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's that's the problem with the side

1283
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: contest is if you shot fake, I'm giving you the

1284
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: driving lane business. Yeah, you done left me, you know

1285
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so if I side contest and

1286
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: go here and I open up, you're smart enough basketball player,

1287
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: I do that ship once you're gonna leave me. You're

1288
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna leave me.

1289
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: In the different by the way you did because you

1290
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: was damn near a trap. It felt like a trap,

1291
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: I said, getting out of pick roll. You keep him away.

1292
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: Actually blit. I was blitzing. I was definitely a blitz

1293
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: guy for show. For SHO I had to blitz. I

1294
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: had shack on the backside, so I had to do

1295
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: all the bliitzing. I had to guard my man and his.

1296
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 6: Everyone talking about who, talking about who. Now give me

1297
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 6: your top five guys handles in the.

1298
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: League right now, right now today, Kyrie.

1299
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: Now then you guys get everybody know that Darius Garland

1300
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: is a sneaky one.

1301
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I tell my son to watch him. I tell

1302
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: my son to watch Darius Garland's cold. I like I

1303
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: like Rob Dillyhan.

1304
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: He hasn't got a chance to show it yet, but

1305
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 3: he got he got a top five handle.

1306
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put s g. A in there right now

1307
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: because maybe I'm seeing him so much, but s G.

1308
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: A is a sneaky one. He can do whatever you want.

1309
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: And then the fifth one, Chris Paul still got to handle.

1310
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if we want to count, if I want

1311
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: to put one of the O g's and.

1312
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: Put Chris get to any spot on the court.

1313
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: Oh it's Steph. Steph Curry got one too. I'm sorry,

1314
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: Steph Sheffon cook up.

1315
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: You see that ship he did last night on the heat.

1316
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 3: And LaMelo damn put mellow on that them. That's that's

1317
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 3: five and then five damn five. Last year.

1318
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: Killer hits you with the question about the five the

1319
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: best ball handlers in the league. But let me ask

1320
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: you this, what about our league as a whole? Where

1321
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: we at? Why the ratings down where we at? Though?

1322
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: What talk to me about that? What's the problem here

1323
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: besides besides the fact that Netflix tried to take Christmas

1324
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: from us, but what we doing.

1325
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. I think my personal opinion is

1326
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: everything looks the same. It's cookie cutter, like I can

1327
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: plug and play every player in almost every system because

1328
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: there's no diversity, it's no creativity. The guys who are

1329
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: created and John Polo, s g A LaMelo, them dudes

1330
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: all stand out, Chef Kyrie because you know what I mean,

1331
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: like Joker Luca, because they're different than the norm. So

1332
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: I think there's not enough creativity. I do think there's

1333
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: too many threes, to be honest with you, but I

1334
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: don't blame the players for that or the coaches. That's

1335
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: why I kind of go towards analytics because excuse me,

1336
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: your mom, come the code. But because we say analytics,

1337
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: we say this this is three of the layport a

1338
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: free throw. Yes, that's crazy, because that's crazy because where

1339
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: it matters most, in the playoffs, we take whatevery bucket.

1340
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: We can get me and Ray.

1341
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: Whatever's gonna move that scoreboard is what's important at the time.

1342
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: So for me, I think I want to see defense

1343
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: be more aggressive. And I know I was more of

1344
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: a score and I want to see it because I

1345
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: want to see if even my shit works, the shit

1346
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: I've been working all summer.

1347
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to go to La Fitness.

1348
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna work, and now I want the

1349
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: best defenders see if it's gonna work at the toughest moments.

1350
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: So I want more aggressive defense. I want I want

1351
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: guys to stop missing games. If we're gonna gain, if

1352
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna low management's low managing practice because these kids

1353
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: are out here may not see you, but once a year,

1354
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: I want to see my favorite players play if they can.

1355
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: And and I think just the creativity, that's why I'm

1356
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: at with it, and we need more of Jesus. I mean,

1357
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: I love the fact that you said that, because when

1358
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: we had Dre on we talked about what the league

1359
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: could do different, we talked about what the players Association

1360
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: could do different. But I looked Dre in his eyes

1361
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: and I said, but as players, we can do better

1362
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: as well as players we can. We can be we

1363
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: can be more accountable as far as playing games and

1364
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: playing the right way and doing things like that.

1365
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: We can do better as well. So I think, you know,

1366
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: for in order us, for us to get the game

1367
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: where we think it should be and back where it belongs,

1368
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: everybody got to take some accountability.

1369
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: But do y'all remember, do y'all remember.

1370
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: When we were in high school and middle school, Like, man,

1371
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: I would do anything again in the NBA.

1372
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: I was a kid.

1373
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'll pay the NBA let me playing.

1374
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't eve want to put no money. I just

1375
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: I want to be out there so bad. If we

1376
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: stay as pros connected to that kid, it's going to

1377
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: always guide you the where you need to go. Nah,

1378
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: you got to you gotta push through. You're a little sore, Okay,

1379
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: we got to push through. Take care of it, practice,

1380
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: you know, whatever it is. But these kids are out

1381
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: there and we have to we have to give them inspiration.

1382
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: We have to.

1383
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: That's our job, it's our duty. We have to tell

1384
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: them the little things that matter. And part of the

1385
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: game too. I think some of these trainers I gotta

1386
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: call the trainers and not teaching the right things. It's

1387
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: gonna transfer games. It's really individualized. Like when I grew up,

1388
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: I love the Lakers because knew they had magic and

1389
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: Kareem and I could identify. It's so much movement now

1390
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 2: as well, you know what I mean. So like it's

1391
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: hard to just stay okay, I like this team anymore.

1392
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: You just following players at this point because the contracts

1393
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: are shorter, like things change. So it's a it's a

1394
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: combination of things that need to be worked on, for sure,

1395
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: to keep growing our game for the future.

1396
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 5: Hey mall, before we let you out here, on a

1397
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 5: couple of fan questions and cool.

1398
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: That for sure. Absolutely. I'm I've been waiting to be

1399
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: on OGS. I've been asking you.

1400
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, let me tell you something. I wasn't even

1401
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: finna get to the fan questions yet. I wanted to

1402
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: ask you about Love City, like real quick on that

1403
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: like that that Loud City ship was live.

1404
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: Though, like man bro, it was the greatest.

1405
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the way I saw.

1406
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: The way I saw it is you, JJ, CP and

1407
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 2: myself that could JJ can make nine threes, CP could

1408
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: shake somebody, I bake somebody like. So we had the

1409
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: ground game and then you had DJ and Blake in

1410
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: the air, so we had like the best of everything,

1411
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: and we was trying to outdo each other.

1412
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell y'all something.

1413
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: When I did that past to Blake and CP is

1414
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: the true CP ain't safe congratulations.

1415
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: He was like, okay, okay.

1416
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: Then a week later, a week later, he throw that

1417
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: lib with DJ, and he tweeted, a Hey, Blake and JC,

1418
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let y'all finish, but hold up.

1419
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: DJ got the best up, I said all. So he

1420
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: was hold on to that.

1421
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: Going back to A me and U D it's still

1422
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: sharp and steal and so ME and Blake like, okay, we're.

1423
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 3: Gonna go Toronto. Me and him did a double or

1424
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: triple live whatever it was. He lied it to me.

1425
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 3: I allowed it back to him.

1426
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's why I went and d

1427
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: Wade and Bron tweeted about it. Bron was like, Yo, da,

1428
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: we gotta steal that one. So it was like something

1429
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: that took over the whole league. To be honest with you,

1430
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: it just it just man, it was.

1431
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: A special time.

1432
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: It was the funnest team I ever played on, the

1433
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: best team I've played on as well. It's nothing like lobshit.

1434
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: We can do thirty for thirty on Love City for real.

1435
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: You damn right you could. And I ain't gonna lie.

1436
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: We talking about iron shopping and iron and ship. We

1437
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: don't forget one year I got I think second or

1438
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: third and six, man, because I led the league in

1439
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: double doubles off the bench. I think you will. Yeah,

1440
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: I think you did. I thank you, man, Yeah, I

1441
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: thank you. My fault you have since you remember and

1442
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: since you remember I had the league in double doubles

1443
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: off the bench. But I ain't warning that yet. Have

1444
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: you seen a new clips arena? Huh? You seen a

1445
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: new clips arena? I heard that ship.

1446
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to a tour.

1447
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's and I know Steve Balmer so from Seattle.

1448
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: You know Microsoft and everything, so he's he's such a visionary.

1449
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: Like bro, every seat has a charging station on it.

1450
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: There's so many bathrooms. You'll never it'll never be a

1451
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: line like it has like, man, it's crazy. It has

1452
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: like gyms inside the gym's like it's crazy, bamn gyms

1453
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: you could just rent out for marketing. You have another

1454
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: gym you just do this for Like, it's crazy. It's

1455
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: it's nothing like it. It's nothing like it. He just

1456
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: play a different game though.

1457
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: With that money though, play kill killer. We got to

1458
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: pull up Man, take care of that. Yeah, might take

1459
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: care of that.

1460
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: Mike.

1461
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: We got to pull up Mike. Take care of that.

1462
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: Mike.

1463
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: Mike got it. J don't worry about I. Mike got it.

1464
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 1: Might got it? He agent.

1465
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 5: Okay, take care of that. I got you. Guys, take

1466
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 5: that care Who's the best defender that you play against

1467
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 5: that you played against?

1468
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: Tony A he would love to hear it.

1469
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 5: That man first team, Hey, first team.

1470
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 3: It was crazy ist.

1471
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: He went on the show a few years back and

1472
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: he said, I had the best crossover and I would

1473
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: have never known it that he played against. I would

1474
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: have never known it because he was so good defensively,

1475
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: Like Bro, my naps, my pre game naps, I'm thinking

1476
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 2: about what move I'm gonna have to do to get

1477
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: Like that's how good a defending. I never did that

1478
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: with nobody, Like that's how good a defender. He was

1479
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: his feet, his hands in Chicago unscreenable.

1480
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 6: When I played with him in the Memphis, it didn't

1481
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 6: matter what they could run. They could run a million

1482
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 6: pickers roll. He was gonna be right in front of

1483
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 6: your chance right there.

1484
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he didn't care about scoring, so his score

1485
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: was getting the stop. So I'm like, damn, I got it.

1486
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: Got to save energy for the other end. He just

1487
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: gonna do this like that. So Tony be so good.

1488
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: I got one more thing before we get out of here. Man,

1489
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: we all fathers raising kids that played the game of basketball,

1490
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: and then obviously we had we had our share successes.

1491
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: Let's just talk about real quick touching on raising kids

1492
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: that are playing a game of basketball after we've made

1493
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: it to the NBA and you know, them creating their

1494
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: own lane and their own path, but obviously us shedding

1495
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: jewels and diamonds and helping, you know, mold them into

1496
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: the man we hope they can be. But also we

1497
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: got to let them run a little bit and got

1498
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: to give them a little slack to do their thing

1499
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: and be who they are. You know what I'm saying

1500
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: that we're all there experiencing that, Mike right now. You're

1501
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: experiencing it at a higher level right now. But you know,

1502
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: we got my man and my young fellow in the

1503
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: eighth grade. Your kid is how what great is? You

1504
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: got an eighth grader too, So yeah, so we all

1505
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: experience in this. Man, let's just touch on this real

1506
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: quick before before we go, because you know, it's it's

1507
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: bigger than basketball because obviously there are kids, you know

1508
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: what I.

1509
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: Mean, absolutely, and and and sometimes they see that there

1510
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: are kids in the way of that you just that

1511
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, like not that you don't know what you're

1512
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: talking about, and you went through this journey and you

1513
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: can help them along the way. It's just you, just dad,

1514
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: all right. Dad's telling me again. But if you get

1515
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 2: one of your partners. I bet if you have d Wade,

1516
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: pull up on them, d Or or Killer Tall, it's

1517
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: a different it's a different sound to the message.

1518
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: Right, What is that? Man? What is that? Explain that

1519
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: shit to me? Because I tell my son all the time.

1520
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: If I'm not cool dad, who the fuck is like?

1521
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: Show show me show me a cooler dad. Please, show

1522
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: me a cooler dad. Did Jamal Crofflin show me a

1523
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: dad than Mike Miller? Show me a cooler dad that

1524
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: you've done his house? Like, show me this motherfucker. But

1525
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: they won't listen to us.

1526
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: You're just dad.

1527
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: And that's a good thing too, because we don't want

1528
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: them to look at us like anything other than that.

1529
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: But dad know what they're talking about in the situation.

1530
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: So I mean even with my son JJ, I told

1531
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: him something about dribbling. Hey, you don't need do all

1532
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: of it, just do you know part of that. Kyrie

1533
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: comes and coaches with me a few years back. He's like, hey, JJ,

1534
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: you good man, just do that. You're like, okay, I

1535
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: cain't never heard of before. Okay, I got you right.

1536
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: So sometimes we got to use each other as well

1537
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: to get those messages across. But I got an older son, Eric,

1538
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: who plays my son JJ plays. Now my youngest daughter

1539
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: is getting into it, and just to see them chase

1540
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: their dream and see how they want to play and

1541
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: how you don't have to push them towards it, like

1542
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: that they're finding the gym. The gym may't got to

1543
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: find them, you know what I'm saying, Like they're finding

1544
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: wherever it is.

1545
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 3: I just make that up. That was a little bar.

1546
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: Trust me that you already download that one.

1547
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 6: But go ahead, hey, to give you to know, to

1548
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 6: give you guys a little something there too, because I

1549
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 6: am a little further along in the process is and

1550
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 6: I hope you don't get they don't get it too.

1551
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 5: Late and they'll come back around.

1552
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 6: They're gonna be like, oh damn, you said a lot

1553
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 6: of that ship that coaches the same you said a lot.

1554
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 5: Of those memories that come back right when I was Yeah,

1555
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 5: you should talk. You should listen to me when you're fourteen.

1556
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 5: But you know what tho it is.

1557
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 6: It is a joy man to see these kids do that,

1558
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 6: and you know, just hoping and pray for them to

1559
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 6: hope they enjoy it. But finding the gym and I

1560
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 6: have the gym find you, Yeah, one is a bar,

1561
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 6: but two is a fact for me.

1562
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: For me, it's that fine line of you know, pushing

1563
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: you to be your best version, but also yeah, letting

1564
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: you go through it and make sure we maintain our

1565
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: relationship because I love my daddy, God Rest the soul.

1566
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: But boy, if I ain't dominate and score thirty, he was,

1567
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: he was, he was in my ship. Yeah, you know

1568
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying. So

1569
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, for my kid, I obviously want him to

1570
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: understand he didn't play his best game, but I want

1571
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: you to enjoy the game. Yeah, I want you to

1572
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: enjoy I want you to enjoy the traffic. You know

1573
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like I got that from D way

1574
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: to enjoy the traffic sometime on the ride. You know what,

1575
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: I like that, So I want because I don't want

1576
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: you to feel like your team won. You score at

1577
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: fifteen and I'm gonna still like your ass up because

1578
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: you didn't get three rebounds and missed three things like that.

1579
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: And I understand it now, Like you said, killer, the

1580
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: kids come back now and they say, we understand. So

1581
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: I understand now why my father was like that because

1582
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: of the circumstances I had to deal with growing up, right,

1583
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: I had to be tougher than tough, like I had

1584
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: to be stronger than strong like all these things I

1585
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: had to deal with. My kids don't have to deal

1586
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: with those things. So as I'm pushing him, I want

1587
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: to make sure we did we maintain our relationship because

1588
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, if you push them too hard, you can

1589
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: push them away.

1590
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: And that's the fine line, right, And that's why I

1591
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: figured out too, like you push them and then you

1592
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: know when the back up a little bit, and then

1593
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: you push them a little more on them, and I

1594
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: think they hear you differently. I think it doesn't affect

1595
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: y'all's relationship If anything, it makes y'all closer where He's like,

1596
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: you know what, I can go through adversity. Pop's gonna

1597
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: be to support me. He's gonna push me through. He's

1598
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: gonna help me through it. But I'm learning this as

1599
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: well on my own how to deal with certain things.

1600
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: And I don't feel the pressure of that. Like they're

1601
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: coming up in a different area than we did. We

1602
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: had to really go through some shit to get where

1603
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: we got. This era is different, but we want them

1604
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: to go through it. But give them a little bit

1605
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: of the old school touches.

1606
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: Well, Mike, how you know where to take a step back?

1607
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 5: Huh?

1608
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: How did you know where to take a step back?

1609
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I love it. I'll be honest. Even through

1610
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 5: the whole process, I never push him to do anything.

1611
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 5: I was more of the thing like I'm not gonna

1612
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 5: be your alarm flock, you know what I mean. Like,

1613
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 5: if you want to really do this, come on, man,

1614
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 5: you can step with me.

1615
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1616
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 5: But you also, what you guys are saying is completely true. Bro,

1617
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 5: You've got it.

1618
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 6: You also got a lot to keep it real with

1619
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 6: them too. If you're gonna keep it real with others, Yeah,

1620
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,479
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So, like you know, there's

1621
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 6: times it's you know, and having self awareness for your

1622
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 6: kids and understanding that. But parents, as parents, we have

1623
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 6: a huge responsibility, right Like you can't just tell someone

1624
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 6: else's parents that you have self awareness. We've gotta have too, So,

1625
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 6: like you know, and so you'll learn, you know, when

1626
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 6: it takes step back, you're we're all most importantly gonna

1627
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 6: be dad's first. But if this is what they really

1628
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 6: really want, and you sit down and you tell them

1629
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 6: just what you really want, there's gonna be some stuff

1630
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 6: out of my mouth.

1631
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 5: That you're not gonna like.

1632
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: That's fine, And.

1633
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: The hardest dinner time, the hardest part for me, The

1634
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: hardest part for me to realize that my son wasn't

1635
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: gonna be me, Like, he's not gonna be me like

1636
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm the type just like

1637
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: us in the room. Motherfucker. I guarantee I'm the one

1638
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: coming up like my son, he's not gonna he's not

1639
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: gonna be me, you know what I'm saying. And once

1640
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: I think I understood that as a father, I think

1641
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: it helped me a lot. You know what I'm saying,

1642
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be me.

1643
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: So but but but you did. He's not gonna be you,

1644
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: but he has you in him. So if he's pushed

1645
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: enough or something's gonna trigger it, maybe a certain age

1646
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: and maybe when he's sixteen, he's like, man, I ain't

1647
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: going no more.

1648
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: This is how we like.

1649
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: It's in him. At some point that is gonna come

1650
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: out and you're like, okay, yeah you got that has them.

1651
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: But that's what I got. You got a little dog

1652
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: in We got a little dog. But I just want

1653
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: to ask you that because we all deal with that

1654
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: on different levels.

1655
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be tuned into yo JJ that motherfucker guy.

1656
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he can go. He can go. He can go, Man,

1657
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: he can go.

1658
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 5: But hey, mom, we appreciate you coming on, brother, appreciate y'all.

1659
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: Man, I've been waiting for one.

1660
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 6: Of my favorites to watch play and play against side

1661
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 6: out every time.

1662
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 5: You got a life, so I'm filed to show you.

1663
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, hey, I know when you went to

1664
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: the weight room, tune and fouls was different.

1665
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, he.

1666
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 5: S out, you're gonna take down pounds. But yeah for

1667
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 5: the rock new.

1668
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: Sleep over here, Like I said, man and We talked

1669
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: about this when I saw you. One of my favorite

1670
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: games to be a part of had nothing to do

1671
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: with me personally, just watching you and the way to

1672
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: go back at each other like that. That ship was.

1673
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: That ship was a joy to watch, Bro.

1674
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: That ship was Bro.

1675
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: Y'all had just won a championship and d Wade was

1676
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: taking harsh at the time.

1677
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 3: I got to try to.

1678
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: Get hot that ship watch, Bro. That she was fun

1679
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: to watch because Isaiah wouldn't even calling the player. Isaiah

1680
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: was like, go, yeah, yeah, d Wade was coming back.

1681
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: That ship was a joy watch, Bro. And also, I

1682
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: love what you're doing on the next level Dog, and

1683
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: not just in the business, and not just in business,

1684
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: but staying active with the hoops, what you're doing with

1685
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: the next generation. Dog. We need more like you, Bro.

1686
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Oh gim, I appreciate it. More like man,

1687
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: oh g advice for the day, like you said, you

1688
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: don't like Jamal said, find the gym. Don't let the

1689
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: gym find you. That part find the gym. Don't let

1690
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: the gym find you, motherfucker, because if you if if

1691
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: the gym got to find you, then the NBA probably

1692
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: not gonna find you either, probably just that simple.

1693
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 3: Appreciate y'all, bro. My Ma, mam ma, mam ma,