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Speaker 1: Second date of date.

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Speaker 2: This happens every so often, but sometimes a listener will

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Speaker 2: do a second date update with us that doesn't end

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Speaker 2: with a yes.

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Speaker 3: Often, But the thing is.

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Speaker 2: They're so impressed by us, specifically me and my efforts

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Speaker 2: to jumpstart their love lives, that they're willing to call

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Speaker 2: back and give it another go.

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't have to.

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Speaker 5: Do Mountain's mouth anymore with CPR, but.

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Speaker 6: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why Justin has reached out to us once again.

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Speaker 2: He was on a few months back, and last time

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Speaker 2: the lady he went out with was not impressed cause

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Speaker 2: she showed up an hour late to dinner, but said

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Speaker 2: Justin wasn't man enough to be mad about it and

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Speaker 2: cancel what?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think?

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Speaker 4: I remember that it was.

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Speaker 2: Really weird and that call definitely crashed and burned, but

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Speaker 2: we promised to try and do better for Justin this time.

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Speaker 3: So Justin, welcome back.

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Speaker 7: Hey, thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, how long did you wait for your date

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Speaker 5: to show up this time? Justin?

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Speaker 7: No, she actually came right on time. That side he.

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Speaker 5: Test, and you failed it?

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Speaker 4: Sure you're to get up and leave and make her way?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think that shows improvement, And I heard that you've

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Speaker 2: been actually doing a little bit of research since the

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Speaker 2: last time you were on with us.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like the learning process never really ends.

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Speaker 7: I'm always trying to better myself, you know.

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Speaker 5: So deep.

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Speaker 7: So Justice, I heard about this book called Attached. Have

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Speaker 7: you guys, are you familiar with it?

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Speaker 5: Attached?

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Reading is not on the top of the list of

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Speaker 2: hobbies for this group, so but tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: What is attached about?

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Speaker 7: So this book basically talked about how most people come

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Speaker 7: into three different psychological categories while dating. Okay, secure, where

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Speaker 7: you can communicate openly and like I could be like, hey,

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Speaker 7: I know you're busy, but I just kind of get

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Speaker 7: nervous when you don't text back. Could you text me?

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Speaker 7: Just let me know, even if it's just like a

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Speaker 7: little thumbs up or something.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's like the type of communicator you are, exactly.

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Speaker 3: In the story groups, they're secure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. The other two categories are anxious and avoidant. Good

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Speaker 7: and anxious people are like the super needy ones where

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Speaker 7: it's just like, no, you gotta text me, and if

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Speaker 7: you don't hear a text back, you're texting them like

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Speaker 7: twenty times, like where are you? Where are you?

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Speaker 5: Pose registered for you?

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Speaker 4: Oh if I'm necessarily anxious in that sense, but in

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Speaker 4: real life I'm anxious a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And then what's the other one? Again?

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Speaker 7: The last one is avoidant, where like if things start

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Speaker 7: getting real, they'll push apart a little bit, like they

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Speaker 7: want distance. They don't want to be smothered or anything.

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Speaker 4: Okay, can you be more than one? Like I feel

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Speaker 4: like i'm the first two combined.

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Speaker 3: You have to read the book and find out.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just going to wait for the movie

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Speaker 2: to come out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was really like a fun movie, Jess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they can, don't.

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Speaker 2: Make it really short because my attentions fan isn't great. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So which which one are you justin?

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Speaker 7: So I'm secure with traits of anxious and so you

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Speaker 7: can be more than one?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So how did that change dating?

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Speaker 7: I'm just really open and communicative about what I'm expecting,

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Speaker 7: how I feel. No more games of like like you know,

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Speaker 7: with the girl who was late, I could just be like,

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Speaker 6: So we did we go on a dat or we

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Speaker 6: just hearing about how your love life has improved.

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Speaker 2: For everybody in the or Justin wrote this book and

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Speaker 2: he's trying to sell exactly. Yeah, so how does all

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Speaker 2: this relate to your your new and improved dating life?

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Speaker 7: So I put this on my dating profile where I

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Speaker 7: said secure attachment styles only, and it didn't really get

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Speaker 7: me any clicks. But then I put that smiley emoji

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Speaker 7: with like the sweat drop coming on the forehead, you know,

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Speaker 2: So who matched with your secure people only demand?

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Speaker 7: With this wonderful woman named Kelly. She's an interior designer,

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Speaker 7: absolutely very very secure, and I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 7: have her see what I did. I don't even know

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Speaker 7: if we spoke about this last time. I'm a professional rapper,

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Speaker 7: Like at least part time did not come up, because, like,

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Speaker 7: you know, unless you're super duper famous, people just presume

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Speaker 3: You invited CALLI to what watch You wrap somewhere?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, to a show that I was doing, and we

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Speaker 7: hung out before we got to know each other, and

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Speaker 7: then it was time for me to go on stage.

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Speaker 7: And I had a couple of songs that night, so

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Speaker 7: I did those. The crowd was really into it. Like

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Speaker 7: might not be into it. But yeah, but when I

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Speaker 7: got off States, she said it was awesome, Like people

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Speaker 7: were coming up to me, just like taking photos and

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Speaker 7: things of that sort, which is always fun. But I

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Speaker 7: kind of worried, like maybe my lyrics were a little

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Speaker 7: bit too vulgar. But that's kind of also like the

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're a rap artist unless you're Will Smith.

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Speaker 1: Rapper.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she did say it was awesome, but I remember,

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Speaker 7: like there's a point where I made eye contact with

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Speaker 7: her while I was wrapping, and I noticed her eyes

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Speaker 7: were kind of big where she was like I don't

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Speaker 7: know if she thought this, but my read was like

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Speaker 7: she's like, what the hell did he just say?

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Speaker 5: Can you give a subject material? Like I get to

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Speaker 5: know anything?

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Speaker 7: Some of it gets political, some of it is just,

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Speaker 4: Democrats secure up in the building.

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Speaker 5: Well, okay, got your openers for you the next show.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to stay a little longer and hang out more,

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Speaker 7: but like while the people were taking photos, she was

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Speaker 7: just like, I gotta go. It was so great being you.

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Speaker 7: And then yeah, I had a tough time getting another date,

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Speaker 7: and I really really did like her, you know, way

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Speaker 7: more than the girl all who made me wait an hour.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, by this time you kind of made her wait. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: same thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what Calli has to say, because we're

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Speaker 2: gonna drop some beats right here just for you, and

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Speaker 2: then we're gonna come back and get your second date

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Speaker 2: update right after this.

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Speaker 7: All right, sounds great, All right, hold on, man.

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Speaker 1: Date.

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Speaker 2: He's smart, he's sexy, and he's totally secure. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about our listener, Justin, who's back doing a second date

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Speaker 2: update for the second time on our show because we

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Speaker 2: failed him the first go round. Yeah, but this time

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Speaker 2: Justin went out with a woman named Calli, who he

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Speaker 2: described as also secure and right.

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Speaker 5: That's their attachment or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she got to see him in his elements,

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Speaker 2: spitting mad bars at a rap show.

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Speaker 3: Weird part was while.

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Speaker 2: He was taking photos with fans after his performance, Calli

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Speaker 2: suddenly ducked out, said.

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Speaker 3: She had to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't know why. I'm sure Brooke has

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Speaker 2: some theories for why.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe she just was sick of me. I mean it's

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Speaker 5: then to sit and all the fans coming out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, your date like being on stage and not with you.

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Speaker 6: You say you're by yourself and then you're by yourself.

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Speaker 4: More literally like as a comedy and greed and your

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Speaker 7: I didn't get that at all. I mean, I didn't

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Speaker 7: want to be rude to the people who come up.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm not like a Kanye West or anything.

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Speaker 7: They came to the show, I'm gonna take a second

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Speaker 5: No, we're not saying that that's bad.

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Speaker 6: It's just that, like on a first date, that may be.

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Speaker 6: You know, it kind of just sucks from her perspective,

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Speaker 4: But everyone else gets time with you with her.

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Speaker 2: Real stars don't take photos with their fans because they're

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Speaker 2: past that. And maybe it came across as kind of needy.

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Speaker 3: That you need your fans to seem cool. He said

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Speaker 3: what's the other ones anxious?

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Speaker 7: I have? Tracea's anxiousness. I said that it is maybe.

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Speaker 3: The anxiousness turned her off. But we're going to call

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Speaker 3: her and find out. Let's style. Callie's number and see

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Speaker 7: All right, here we go. Hello, Hey, is this Cali?

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Speaker 3: This is her secure account?

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Speaker 8: No, excuse me, my.

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Speaker 2: Name is Jeff. I heard that you were secure. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: my name is Jeff from the radio show Brooke and

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 5: There it is, all right?

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Speaker 8: Which radio show?

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Speaker 3: I don't don't about it.

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Speaker 5: We have a podcast too, Maybe you listen to that.

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Speaker 8: I don't think i've heard of you guys. What's just about?

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Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on this show called Second

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Speaker 2: Date Update, and we're trying to help one of our

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Speaker 2: with him the other night and now you're avoiding him.

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Speaker 3: His name is Justin. Oh, well, you guys went to

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Speaker 3: a rap show.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember him. How much do you guys know?

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Speaker 6: Well, we know that he is an up and coming

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Speaker 6: rap star and he took you to his show.

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Speaker 4: But he said you left while you were doing a

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Speaker 4: meet and greet.

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Speaker 8: Yeah I did so. I didn't really enjoy him very much.

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Speaker 8: Oh No, the show is fine. He's actually a really

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Speaker 8: talented rapper. Like I didn't mind the show at all.

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Speaker 8: I thought he's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: You liked him on stage, but you didn't like him.

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Speaker 3: He's on stage persona.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he lost me, I mean before the rap, like

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Speaker 8: you were talking about before the show. Oh he guy

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Speaker 8: just kept going on about the book, the attachment theory book.

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Speaker 5: Was it too much for you?

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Speaker 8: He just wouldn't let it go, Like and on a

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Speaker 8: he's like psychoanalyzing me and like we're trying to figure

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Speaker 8: it out for our personalities match. And I'm like, I

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Speaker 8: couldn't find out if I click with you th for

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Speaker 8: just having a conversation about what we like to do. Like,

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's cool to click with someone and their values,

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Speaker 8: but you don't normally figure that out on date one

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Speaker 5: It's like people who won't date like other horoscope science.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and you didn't feel like, I mean you

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Speaker 8: Well I knew after about thirty minutes of him talking

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Speaker 2: Bored thirty Oh oh, he went on for thirty minutes

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Speaker 6: We talked to him for like five minutes about it,

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Speaker 3: I know, thirty minutes of that conversation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at least he's passionate about it. Passion is

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Speaker 8: But he wouldn't let it go. And it was like

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Speaker 8: I'm secure and he's secure. I was like, okay, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that really hurts.

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Speaker 3: It got to hurt to hear. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Justin's secure enough to take it in stride, because

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Speaker 8: You had him on the whole time, Yeah he did.

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Speaker 1: Justin, Hey, Kelly, hearing how secure he sounds, you could.

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Speaker 8: I didn't want to be mean to you. I just

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Speaker 7: It's not a strategy. I just really like the book

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Speaker 7: I read, and I thought you were enjoying the conversation,

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Speaker 8: But I don't think you were reading that situation right

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Speaker 8: all the trivial things likes and dislikes with pizza toppings

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Speaker 2: Like he's talking about his favorite book. You know, it's

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm not basic. I don't want to go

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Speaker 4: Hey, some people can talk about pizza toppings for very

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Speaker 4: very much. That just came off a little hot.

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Speaker 7: I think the first nats get so repetitive. I thought

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Speaker 6: You were listening to her. It sounds like you were

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Speaker 7: I thought she was into it, and I apologized. I

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Speaker 7: didn't mean to be boring. I gotta be work for you,

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Speaker 7: and it's not boring. Wow, I'm a dope rapper. I'm

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay's happening.

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Speaker 6: I remember you're taking pictures of fans, and that's Jeffrey proved.

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Speaker 4: You don't see Kanye taking a picture of anybody.

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Speaker 2: Let's just pretend that you didn't hear him call you

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Speaker 2: the other bee work.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Can you see how it was maybe a little bit

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that can definitely not be blamed on me, just

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Speaker 8: about this, now, you're boring me, like that would have

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Speaker 3: Been very helpful clue to him that he needs to

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Speaker 5: Subject, and he was really secure.

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Speaker 4: Would have been fine with him.

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Speaker 8: He's not the best at reading people, because it was

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Speaker 8: you say to somebody like, oh cool, like four times

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Speaker 2: Luckily, I'm very good at reading people and reading situations

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Speaker 2: and sensing a vibe right here.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling the love connection happening, and that's why I'd

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Speaker 2: like to offer to send Cali out on another date

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Speaker 3: We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to stop you right there. I thought this

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Speaker 7: vibes from her. I don't think I'm ready for a

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Speaker 3: I'm still sensing some vibes going on.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to just I not only there's something

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Speaker 8: we agree on.

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Speaker 7: Ok yeah, I not only misread that conversation, I misread

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Speaker 7: her entire profile and who she was as a human being.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, hard Pass.

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Speaker 2: So I'm getting a sense this is more of just

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Speaker 2: going to stay the night. She's just going to be

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Speaker 4: Hard Pass the name of his album.

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Speaker 3: That's a good album.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying really hard because I don't want to

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Speaker 7: Listen, you, guys, this is not your fault. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I love you, guys, I love the show. I love

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Speaker 7: that you like are taking the time to help me you're,

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Speaker 7: oh for one, batting five hundred.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I don't think I'm calling it fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 5: We have definitely never gotten on basis it's.

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Speaker 3: In victory in my book. Congratulations Justin. He just got

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Speaker 3: hit by a pitch.

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the morning,