1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to Turning Point tonight, where we 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: are still undeterred charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: We're going to continue Yesterday we talked endlessly about Charlie, 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: and we'll probably continue the same today. There's so much 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: to say. We've got a bunch of different emails that 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: you all have sent messages that we'll read a little 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: bit later on in the show. If you have memories 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: or thoughts or well wishes tpt at tpusa dot com. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Again are We've never had so many emails in the inbox, 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: and that I think just a testament to the difference 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: that Charlie made in everybody's life. So we've got friends 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: coming up throughout the show to speak about Charlie, first 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: of which is a friend of the show, Turning Point contributor, 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: among a litany of other things. Riley Gaines joins us, right, 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: thanks for taking the time. I wish it was under 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: better circumstances, but I appreciate you being here. 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: Man. 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: I'm excited to talk with you. Joe, Bob, what a really, 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: what a dark past week? Really this has been. I 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: think I will speak personally. I think what was pretty 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: unsettling to me, of course, was watching what happened to 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: the beautiful, young, innocent, law abiding Ukrainian refugee who had 23 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: her life taken from her at the hands of a monster. 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: That that initially made me really uneasy because I was 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: thinking to myself watching this situation unfold at the beginning 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: of this week, like there was nothing she could have 27 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: done to prevent that situation, Like she walked onto the 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: bus or the train, whatever it was, she sat down, 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: and then what like a minute and a half later, 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: she was she was dead. So so that like it 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: kind of shook me to my core. I don't know 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: if it's the fact that obviously this was a young woman. 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the fact that I'm I'm 34 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: due to bring life into this world any day, a 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: young daughter for that matter, So that shook me. But 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: then obviously watching what has happened to our friend, our 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: mentor I mean, our boss, Charlie Kirk, like it was 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: another situation of this was a circumstance where there was 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: nothing that he could have done to really prevent this, 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: And I think that's just the reality of it when 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: you have so many unhinged people who feel as if 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: they're morally justified by the way, who are willing, I think, 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: at the end of the day to risk their life 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: and they want to kill you. There's not a lot 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: you can do, and so pretty unsettling. Of course, just 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: evil is the only word for it. So I too 47 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: wish this was under better circumstances. But fantastic way to 48 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: commemorate the life and the legacy of Charlie Kirk. 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: You know, I'm so curious what you know. Everybody had 50 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: kind of a different relationship with him, depending on you know, 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: where you know, you were in the movement, your job 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: at turning point, your kind of interaction with them on 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: a day to day basis you specifically have I don't 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: want to say the most bizarre trajectory into conservative political commentary, 55 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: but I know for a fact that that wasn't on 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: your radar at a certain point in life, especially at school. 57 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Can you kind of like talk about Charlie's role or 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, even mentorship in the process of correct me 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, You're. 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: Going to be a dentist, right, Yeah, So to say 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: that this was something that I imagined myself doing would 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: be certainly an understatement. I mean, half the conversations that 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: we're having, whether it's me personally the situation that I 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: found myself in, or again, like seriously, more than half 65 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: the things we find ourselves discussing or debating or legislating 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: on as a nation, like these are conversations that, I mean, 67 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: there was a pretty standard default position to take that 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: would have been considered and sense for virtually all of humanity, 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: and now we're living in this time where issues like 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: men and women's sports, or you can't have a secure 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: you can have a nation at all actually without borders, 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: or the fact that crime is bad, or that getting 73 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: married and having children is a beneficial thing to society, 74 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: like these things where there was originally a default position 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: and you would imagine like a relatively unified understanding and 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: consensus of now we're debating them. So never imagine myself 77 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: all that to say in the position that I'm in, 78 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: I will say, of course, I've always been a conservative. 79 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: I've always been a Christian first and foremost, and so 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: having conservative views, and so Charlie was someone who I've 81 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I watched in college, especially towards the back 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: end of my collegiate time, and so it was a 83 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: pretty surreal moment for me to go from a college 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: student impacted by a specific situation finding my voice and 85 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: then having someone who I had kind of from a 86 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: distance admired for a long time be the person to 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: prop me up, to give me a platform, to deploy 88 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: me to different places on college campuses, high school campuses. 89 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a man who gave me my voice. 90 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. 91 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: We wouldn't have I think some of the impact that 92 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: we've seen following that National Championships without Charlie Kirk. He 93 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: revolutionized me as a patriot, as an American, as someone 94 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: who understands the freedoms that we are so blessed with 95 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: in this nation. So again, his impact on me personally, 96 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: it's just been profound. He's taught me so much in 97 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: terms of the political world. Again, this isn't something that 98 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: I came into overly confident. You know, I wasn't a 99 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: young Charlie Kirk. So he taught me so much there. 100 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: He taught me so much in regard to my spiritual relationship, 101 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: I mean, even personal relationships. This was a person I 102 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 3: could go to for advice on anything. And I did, 103 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: like even leading up to of course, I mean even 104 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: his final moments, like days before texting him, what do 105 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: you think about this person? Is this a person I 106 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: should endorse or get behind for Congress or for senator, 107 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: for governor? And he would always tell me. 108 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: And so. 109 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: It's just a weird it's a weird thought. It's a 110 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: feeling of disbelief knowing that you can't send that text, 111 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: you can't make that call anymore. My husband wouldn't have 112 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: a green card without Charlie. It was really Charlie who 113 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: ultimately facilitated that conversation. Once Joe Biden was out, Donald 114 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: Trump was back in to get rid of this mandate 115 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: that required legal immigrants to have the COVID vaccine. So, 116 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's changed the trajectory of my marriage even. 117 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's unbelievable the impact. I've had many experiences 118 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: in which, well, what am I trying to say. I'm 119 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: trying to say he he would trust me to do 120 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: things that I wouldn't necessarily know i'd trust myself to do. 121 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: For example, on more than a couple occasions, Hey, there's 122 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: a something going on with this event. Can you run 123 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: on stage and go kill twenty minutes, and I remember 124 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: something like that happening to you two at bar A Lago. 125 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: I think this last year of like, well, wasn't expecting 126 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: to speak now I'm speaking, but I think that kind 127 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: of like what it really is is, you know, you 128 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: can look at the chaotic part and the kind of 129 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the humor of it, but that really is is trust 130 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: and confidence in the people that he helped bring up 131 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: around him, which I think is is huge, especially now 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: since you know it's it's up to everybody to take 133 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: the mantle and carry it. I guess how going forward, 134 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: how do you expect And I understand this is kind 135 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: of difficult to speculate right now, but how do you 136 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: expect the trajectory of kind of carrying that mantle forward 137 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: in the conservative movement in a way that Charlie would 138 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: have wanted you and us and everybody to do. 139 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: You know, I think right now so many of us 140 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: feel the grief, right or maybe the anger, or maybe 141 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: still that disbelief or the sadness that comes with losing 142 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: someone who truly is irreplaceable. But all that to say, 143 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: I don't think the coward the assassin who took Charlie's life. 144 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he thought about the consequences of what 145 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: that bullet, what that shot, what that fatal shot would do, 146 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: because I think in the long run, what this has done, 147 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: I think it's going to create tens of thousands, if 148 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 3: not more. Charlie Kirk's. Again, he's an irreplaceable human being. 149 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: The way he consumes knowledge, how articulate, how intelligent, how personable, 150 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: how genuine. I mean, there's no one else like Charlie Kirk. 151 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: But if we can have people who are just as dedicated, 152 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: just as willing to do what they can to implement 153 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: the same strategies that he used, and he went to 154 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: campuses to mobilize and engage with the youth in a 155 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: format that encouraged intellectual thought and civil discourse. And if 156 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: that is something that we can continue on as everyday people. Right, 157 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't take someone who is a theologian or a historian, 158 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: or someone who studied political science. Again, that's not me. 159 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: I'm none of those things that Yet I would still 160 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: describe myself as someone who is able to have impact. 161 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: I believe that we will see thousands and thousands and 162 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: thousands of Charlie Charlie Kirkson. So truthfully, Joe Bob like, 163 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: I'm not concerned for the future of Turning Point. I 164 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: feel hopeful. And it feels weird saying that again when 165 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: these days are so dark, But there is a sense 166 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: of hope going into the future. And I think it's 167 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: a fitting name, right, the organization that Charlie worked, I mean, 168 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: his life's work to be called Turning Point because I 169 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: believe that's what this week Wednesday. I believe that's what 170 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: it will be for this nation. 171 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were among a few people to actually sit 172 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: behind the table with him several times, and at any 173 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: point did you feel that he was nervous at all, 174 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: feel that he was scared? What what was that like? Because, 175 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't he didn't. He didn't invite 176 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: everybody behind that table, and you were one of them 177 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: that he had again confidence in to be able to 178 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: handle the oncoming questions. What was those what were those experiences? 179 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: Like? 180 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: You know, I think one of the the pieces that 181 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: makes Charlie irreplaceable is that he would oftentimes insert himself 182 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: into the belly of the beast. I mean, most recently 183 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: we were together at San Francisco State University, obviously in 184 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: San Francisco, which this was the same university if you 185 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: can remember Joe Bob where I mean a mob of 186 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: trans writes activists held me hostage for I mean for 187 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: four or five hours, demanding that I had to pay 188 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: them money if I wanted to make it home safely. 189 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: Yet Charlie saw that as an opportunity. He wasn't there 190 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 3: again to you for rage or any sort of engagement 191 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: farming or clickbaiting. He just was there to again have 192 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: these conversations. These were the conversations that are the places 193 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: where these conversations needed to be had, and to hold 194 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: a mirror up so everyone the world could see the harm, 195 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: the threats, the destructive nature, especially of these liberal institutions 196 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: and the monsters, the Frankenstein's really that they're creating and 197 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: then deploying out into the world. These are the people 198 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: who will become our healthcare providers, government workers, our educators, 199 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: the list goes on. And so he was shining a 200 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: light and a mirror on that. But that's I think 201 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: again what made him different and unique and made him 202 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: a target is he was willing to put them himself 203 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: in those situations. So there was never any sort of 204 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: fear at least outwardly expressed that I saw from Charlie 205 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: even when I was fearful and I'm I'm I'm reluctant 206 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: to admit it, but going back to San Francisco like 207 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: that was scary for me, Like it really was like 208 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: seeing some of those same people, the same officers who 209 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: were there. Like, you know, I don't like to look 210 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: at myself as any sort of victim or to you know, 211 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: have a pity party for myself, but that was a 212 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,479 Speaker 3: scary moment. It was Charlie who reassured me, you're fine, 213 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: you're good, you know what you're doing, you know what 214 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: you're talking about. Yeah, of course, always giving me scripture 215 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: to accompany it. So I don't believe he was scared, 216 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: and that again gives me comfort knowing that in his 217 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: final moments, I truthfully believe he went out of course 218 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: doing what he loved to do most and in a 219 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: way that again I don't think there was any level 220 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 3: of fear to it. 221 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah. No, it's incredible to be able to 222 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: walk into those situations and you know, stared the belly 223 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: and come out on top. But Riley, thank you so much. 224 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. Taking the time again somber moments, 225 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: but still finding the light in what Charlie was doing 226 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: and what he would have wanted all of us to 227 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: do going forward. Thank you so much, well, thank you, 228 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Joe Bob, onwards. Thank you. Turning Point tonight will be 229 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: right back after the break. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, 230 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: where we are still charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 231 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: I remember you can send us all of your well 232 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: wishes and thoughts and memories of Charlie to TPT at 233 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com. We'll read a handful of those a 234 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: little bit. We've got so many messages in so many 235 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: emails over the last couple of days TPT at TPUSA 236 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: dot com. I would love to hear your memories and 237 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: your fond rememberings of Charlie. Kirk joining us right now 238 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: is a guy who I don't know that there's many 239 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: people that would have known Charlie better. Tyler Boyer is 240 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: the CEO of Turning Point Action. Him and Charlie effectively 241 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: made Turning Point into the behemoth that it is now. Tyler, 242 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking the time. Hey, thank you, 243 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Joe Bob, I appreciate being here. You know, I just 244 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: I'll leave it broad and open. And I know you've 245 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: probably done a ton of media. I know you were 246 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: a hosting his show earlier, but you know, floors yours 247 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: and kind of get a little bit more granular as 248 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: we go. But what are your just generic opening thoughts? 249 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: No, you know, it's just been they say, you know, 250 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: when you have tragedy strikes like this, it just. 251 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Comes in waves. 252 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: So I apologize in advance if I get choked up 253 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: or I start bawling. It's just been kind of one 254 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: of those things. But Charlie Kirk has been one of 255 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: my closest friends. 256 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: And allies and. 257 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: Confidants for the past decade plus. I think I met 258 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: Charlie officially just just about eleven years ago, and it 259 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: was he was still just barely coming out of his 260 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: teenage years and young guy who you know, we were 261 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: just joking on the show earlier, wore big suits, kind 262 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: of got pulled around by a lot of a lot 263 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: of tea party guys, which is where he and I 264 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: connected because I was a young guy too, not nearly 265 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: as young as him. I was in my twenties, so 266 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 4: a few years older than he is. But we connected 267 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: because I was kind of like the only young guy 268 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: that would show up to tea party meetings, and he 269 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: was too. He was that guy. And when I met him, 270 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: that's kind of how you know. I had some big 271 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: ideas and someone was like, you gotta go meet this 272 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: this kid, Charlie is trying to do this thing and 273 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: in Illinois, and I was like, Illinois, Like what like Illinois? 274 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: And I met him and I was like, whoa, this 275 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: guy's a lot smarter than I am. He's a lot 276 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: he's a lot better at doing all of this stuff 277 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: than I am. 278 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: I got to hitch my wagon to him. 279 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: And that's the short version of the story of how 280 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: we got here with Charlie. But I can just say 281 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: this is nothing has changed just the day and moment 282 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: I met Charlie Kirk, which is that he has been 283 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: so focused on doing the right things for the movement, 284 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: putting the movement before himself, selflessly figuring out the problems, 285 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: the quandaries that exist within the movement, and then coming 286 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: to solutions. The thing that made us fast friends was 287 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: that we wanted the same thing, which is that we 288 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: wanted to do the things that fix the problems that 289 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: the movement has Charlie just happened to be the most 290 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 4: perfect God given uh yeah, individual that has probably ever 291 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: been predestined to do this work that I've ever seen 292 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 4: within the movement. We were just talking on his show today. 293 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: You know, the three probably most influential outside of Charlie 294 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: Kirk at this moment, the three most influential people leading 295 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 4: up to Charlie Kirk in the in the movement where 296 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: you know Donald Trump, Andrew Breitbart, and uh and then. 297 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Of course Rush, Rush. 298 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: Limbaugh and Charlie is the person that is you could say, 299 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: is the embodiment of all three of those different people 300 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: in different ways. And not to get too deeply into it, 301 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: that he just picked up the baton with all of 302 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: those individuals, you know, both while they are alive or 303 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: since passed or pasted early Andrew Breitbart obviously we know 304 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: and and and President Trump, who's very much alive and 305 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: doing great work. But he was the embodiment of really 306 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: all three of those massive figures and then was able 307 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 4: to package and deliver that in the best possible way 308 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: to our youth. And that is something that will be 309 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: the story, that will be the understanding that people will 310 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: kind of come to long term once they figure it out, 311 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: changed the trajectory of America. That changed the trajectory of 312 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: young people and how they view politics and how they 313 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 4: engage and ultimately the course of who ends up running 314 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: for office someday and becoming our next presidents and congressmen 315 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: and senators and governors and everything else. 316 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, massively influential and influential in a way that 317 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of other people in the space 318 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: are not. I don't know if you're at Turning point Action. 319 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. We shared an 320 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: Uber ride home from the airport. We'd flown back from 321 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: Chicago with Charlie, and you were telling me in the 322 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: car about turning point Action, and I'd come out of 323 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: the politics world, so I understood what packs were and 324 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: how their maneuverability worked within the movement, and I was 325 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, Like that's all right, sounds good. 326 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Not that they had no disbelief in it, but I 327 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, good. A couple of years later, 328 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: fast forward, it is this massive organization with huge influence 329 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: that no other commentator has. People know, Charlie is the commentator, 330 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: the guy in front of the cameraonet sort of stuff. 331 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: The power in the action side does not exist across 332 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: any other commentator. How what kind of foresight did he 333 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: have to do both? Right? Because you've got the political side, 334 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: you got the media side. He was over both of 335 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: them equally. How did that come about? And how did 336 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: he manage that? 337 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 338 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: I mean so kind of the history of this is that, 339 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: you know, building Turning Point USA was a lot of work. 340 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: And you know, I served as as CEO of Turning 341 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: Point USA for uh, you know, the you know, and 342 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: within leadership for about six or seven years. Uh, and 343 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: we built all the individual programs that needed to exist. 344 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: Charlie's brain power, you know, his his goal, his mission, 345 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: and what Turning Points started on was do the work 346 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: to become the big funnel to bring in as many 347 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 4: individuals to the conservative movement on college campuses, and then 348 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 4: that expanded to high school and that expanded now to 349 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 4: our Tvosa faith side. And you know, we built all 350 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: those individual blexit and all our individual programs that we 351 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: have for outreach. 352 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: But as we. 353 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: Went along the way and and again Charlie, to his credit, 354 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: was never one that wanted to back down from a fight, 355 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: you know, and and individuals like myself, and we have 356 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: so many I mean the hundreds and hundreds of staff 357 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: that we have, the great leaders that we have around 358 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 4: us at Turning Point USA to this day, who have 359 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: been many of them have been there for almost a decade. 360 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: That's how long. 361 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 4: We've had most of the stuff. 362 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking. 363 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: Young people working here for basically their half their life 364 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 4: at this point. But these were fights that we started 365 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: realizing we had to take on and build and grow. 366 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: And once we realized the political space, the five oh 367 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: one C four space, which for other people that's packs 368 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 4: and politics and everything else that just wasn't enough being done, 369 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: and the brand the Turning Point that had been developed 370 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 4: had become big enough and usable to actually go do 371 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: the work. You know, you start realizing, Wow, this is 372 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: a god thing. God wants you to do those things. 373 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: And Joe, Bob, this is the story of Turning Point 374 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: that everybody has to hear over and over. I was 375 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 4: by Charlie's side since, you know, essentially twenty fourteen when 376 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: I met Am and ever since have been there. Every 377 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 4: single thing that has happened along the way, within the 378 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk story, within the Turning Point story, has been 379 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 4: a god thing. It's been everywhere along the way, and 380 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: Charlie would be the first to. 381 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: Tell you that. 382 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: And and that's what makes me miss my friend the 383 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: most is knowing how loved by God Charlie Kirk is. 384 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: And and that that's the pressure for all of us, 385 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: you know, yourself included, is we've got to live up 386 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 4: to that. That's the that's the measuring stick, is that 387 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: every bit of work that has been done to this 388 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: point must continue with gasoline port on it. It must 389 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: get bigger, it must get we must be better. We 390 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 4: must be more focused on the things that Charlie had 391 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: worked towards, that he had taught us, that he had 392 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 4: taught so many others to do. And I truly and 393 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 4: completely believe that we will do that. We will accomplish 394 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: that goal. 395 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: Tyler, I don't want to put you on the spot. 396 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: And this question comes. I'm genuinely curious. It's not really 397 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: like a speculative just for fun. I think everybody saw 398 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: the brightest possible future. What are the chances he would 399 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: have been JD's running mate in twenty eight You know, 400 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: we were just talking about this yesterday. 401 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: We flew back on Air Force two with vice president Vance, 402 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: and you know, he came back and talked to us 403 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: for a few minutes and I just you know, we were 404 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 4: talking about this as a team. I think there was 405 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: a really a really good chance that Charlie's name would 406 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: have been inserted into this twenty twenty eight race. 407 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Whether he wanted it to or not. 408 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: You know, Charlie was a humble guy and he would 409 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: he would say frequently that really likes his job and 410 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 4: he's stayed play. He's more useful doing what he's doing. 411 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: And he's not wrong about that. Everything that Charlie was 412 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 4: able to do is a mouthpiece for the conservative movement. 413 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: It's far more useful than being you know, in the 414 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: bondage of Congress or you know, elected office. That's it's 415 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 4: it's like being imprisoned and it's not a fun place. 416 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 4: But you know, Charlie was willing to do what was 417 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: what was needed. And I can guarantee this is that. 418 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 419 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: Number One, JD, vice president of Dvance is is one 420 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: of Charlie's closest friends. They texted almost every single day. 421 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: JD has been a friend to Turning Point since day one, 422 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 4: and vice versa. We have been we were one of 423 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: the first people to endorse him in his in his 424 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: Senate race. That was a decision that was hard because 425 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: there was a lot of people running, but it wasn't 426 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: hard when we met j D. I think they would 427 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: have made a tremendous pair. And I think if Charlie 428 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: would have been asked by the vice president do so, 429 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 4: he probably would have done it. But I think the 430 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: most important thing to know is that I think I 431 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: think Charlie would have done whatever he prayed about and 432 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: he felt the best about, you know, in his own 433 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: personal communication with his heavily father. I think he his 434 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 4: relationship with God was one of the strongest that you 435 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 4: could you could find amongst any public figure. I think 436 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 4: I think he was worried first and foremost about his 437 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 4: relationship with God, and then number two his relationship with Erica. 438 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: And so I think he would have said Erica would 439 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: make a better vice president than he would, and he's. 440 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: Not wrong about that. 441 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: Eric is a wonderful, inspiring representation of everything that we 442 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: do and everything that we are looking for as a 443 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: as a young woman, as a young mother, and so 444 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 4: our heart breaks for her. But he would have done 445 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: I think whatever number one God wanted him to do, 446 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 4: and number two Erica wanted to do, and then number 447 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: three probably if j you know, with the JD asked, 448 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: then what he asked. 449 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's I probably consider in reminiscy for for hours. 450 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: But I appreciate you taking the time, Tyler. I know 451 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: this has been a rough week for everybody, but I 452 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: what you said earlier, that pouring gasoline on the fire 453 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: and continuing to push full steam ahead is unbelievably encouraging 454 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: to myself and I'm sure all of the viewers out there. 455 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: So Tyler Boyer, CEO of Turning Point Action, thank you 456 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Thank you, Joe, Bob appreciate it. 457 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: Turning Point Tonight will be right back after the break. 458 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point Tonight, where we are charting 459 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: the course and will continue to chart the course of 460 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: America's cultural comeback. You know, there's a lot to be 461 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: said on the political side of things, and to be 462 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: quite honest, and I hope you've noticed we haven't really 463 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: dug into that all that much. There will be a 464 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: time in a place to discuss that at great length, 465 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: the political implications of what has transpired regarding this horrible 466 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: and heinous, awful tragedy in the assassination of my friend 467 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: and your friend, Charlie Kirk. But that being said, there 468 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: is one element that I think I would like to 469 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: discuss sooner than later, and the reason for that is 470 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: because we need to set a baseline precedent as to 471 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: what it is that we are discussing when that discussion 472 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: comes along. I've gotten so many emails, texts, phone calls, 473 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: social media messages from everybody I know who knew that 474 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: I was close with Charlie. And I'll even say this, 475 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: many of you know I live in California, and living 476 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: in California comes with by default several people who are 477 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: friends of mine who are on opposite sides of the aisle. 478 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: And by the way, too, nobody encouraged civic civil discourse 479 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: more than Charlie, and he understood I had a lot 480 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: of a lot of lib friends. Even those lib friends 481 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: texted me, called me, sent me messages genuinely saying I'm 482 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: sorry that this happened and genuinely trying to be consoling. 483 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: And I genuinely appreciated that. But one of the things 484 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: that I noticed in going through and talking to some 485 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: of these friends who again are on the opposite side 486 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: of the political aisle than me. Is that they were 487 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: unaware of something that I and you are all too 488 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: aware of, and that is the demonic, depraved behavior of 489 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: the folks online celebrating this heinous, an awful, horrible attack. 490 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen the videos. We're not going to 491 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: play them here because I don't frankly want to rage 492 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: bait anybody. But there are videos circulating online that show 493 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: people celebrating, show people that are happy, that are dancing 494 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: because Charlie Kirk was murdered in cold blood in broad daylight. 495 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Now we can all agree that it's horrendous. There's no 496 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: place for that in civil civic discourse. And the more 497 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: same people on the left side of the aisle, people 498 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: that lean left and clearly are not radicals, would also agree. 499 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: They would also agree that that is horrible and it 500 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: should be condemned. As a matter of fact. To their credit, 501 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: there are some news outlets that have fired people based 502 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: on the awful things that they've said on their sh 503 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: show MSNBC. The day that it happened. Fired doesn't even matter. 504 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even tell you his name because he 505 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: no longer matters because he could not keep his horrible 506 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: and heinous thoughts to himself. So to their credit, MSNBC 507 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: fired that individual. But back to what I was starting 508 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: to realize with the friends that I have, the genuine, good, 509 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: long friends that I've had, who simply lean a different 510 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: direction than me politically, what I gathered anecdotally is that 511 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: they seem to be completely and entirely unaware of the 512 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: grown percentage of the people that they would vote with 513 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: who would celebrate something like this. They are completely unaware 514 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: of people who post on social media in celebratory fashion, 515 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: dancing and singing and rejoicing of Charlie Kirk's death. They 516 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: are unaware that those people will exist. Now. I don't 517 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: know if it's apathy or it's the way the algorithms work. 518 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the cause for that is, but 519 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: they don't know, and so we have to tell them. 520 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: And again, this is not an attempt to put people 521 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: into a rage and put people into a frenzy, but 522 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: we have to tell them because I think they would agree. 523 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: I have enough faith in humanity to think that the 524 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: people that I disagree with politically on so many different 525 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: issues would agree that this is all awful. I have 526 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: to believe that, which lead me into how it is 527 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: that we're discussing this and where the baseline for our 528 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: discussion needs to be. The baseline for where we need 529 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: to discuss this from needs to be from a position 530 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: of fair rhetoric. What I mean to say by that 531 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: is President Trump, during his statement that he made immediately 532 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: after the assassination, was that we have a problem in 533 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: this country and a threat to this country by the 534 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: radical left. And he used that language specifically and precisely why, 535 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: because it's accurate. The radical left, not the left. He 536 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: didn't say the left, he didn't say your every day 537 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: Joe Schmoe democrat. He said the radical left is a 538 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: threat to the society and the country that we all left. 539 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: The people who are on the radical left, who celebrated 540 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: the assassination of a guy who just wanted to talk 541 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: is a problem. 542 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: Now. 543 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: A bunch of the mainstream media did not like that. 544 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: He pointed that out and said, well, when are conservatives 545 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: going to not point the finger at the other side, 546 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: as if that's what he was doing, but it clearly 547 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: was not. He sliced it thin enough to make sure 548 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: it was the radicals and not just the left. If 549 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: we were to do a comparison, I would offer you this. 550 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: We all remember when President Biden got up there gave 551 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: a political speech from an office that he wasn't supposed 552 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: to give a political speech from. But we will leave 553 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: that to its side right now, when he said that 554 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: an existential threat to the country was maga Republicans. Now 555 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: notice the difference. President Trump didn't say the left. He 556 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: said the radical left. President Biden, on the other hand, 557 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: said maga Republicans. In other words, effectively every single person 558 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: who voted for Donald Trump and effectively half the country. 559 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: So if you're going to issue a statement saying that 560 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: a group of people is a threat, to be honest 561 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: with you, I hope the president does that. I hope 562 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: the president has enough guts whoever the president is, to 563 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: recognize a true and legitimate threat and inform the American 564 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: people about it. The problem is when you over broadly 565 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: use language that includes half the country. Saying Maga Republicans 566 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: are threat is not the same as saying the radical 567 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: left is a threat. One is a poigted, precise group 568 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: of people that we can all agree are a problem. 569 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: The other is half the country. So Win, Rolling Stone 570 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: and The New York Times and all of these other 571 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: media outlets go on saying, well, this is just as 572 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: bad on the same side. We need to reject it, 573 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: because no, it is not. President Trump had just said 574 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats as a whole or the left as a whole, 575 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: are an existential threat to the country, I probably would 576 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: have disagreed with him on that. I probably would have 577 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: called for more precise language, but he didn't. He was 578 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: precise in what he said, and what he said was true. 579 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: The only way that we are going to erradical hate, 580 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: the progressive extremism that is damaging the country, the type 581 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: of extremism that celebrates the assassination of a guy who 582 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: just wants to talk, is if we have to buy 583 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: in from the people who need to actually amputate them 584 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: from political public discourse, and that's the left. We need 585 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: the left to buy in to getting rid of the 586 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: radical left rhetorically speaking. But we're never gonna do that 587 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: if we equate those two statements, the radical left and 588 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: mag Republicans as the same, which is exactly what a 589 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: lot of the mainstream media is trying to do. We 590 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: need to have stronger delineations between our language. The political rhetoric, Yes, 591 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: is hot, but needs to be precise because when things 592 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: are precise, and Charlie probably one of the most impactful 593 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: things he told me kind of an offhanded statement. We 594 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: were backstage in Chicago and we were walking down a hall. 595 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: He asked if I was coming up with any new material. 596 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: I said yes. He said, good, be precise, and that 597 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: is stuck with me because it's so important that we 598 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: described what is accurately, or else we will get baited 599 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: into a he said, She said, they said situation in 600 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: which nobody wins. That is the baseline in which we 601 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: need to start these conversations as they go forward. But 602 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: for now, we will continue to remember the American hero 603 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: that was Charlie Kirk. We'll be right back. Welcome back 604 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: to turning point tonight. We're together. We are charting the 605 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: course of America's cultural comeback. Thank you so much for 606 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: sticking with us. And I know there's not enough time 607 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: to say all the things that we, I think all 608 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: would like to say about Charlie and the guy he 609 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: was and the organization he led and the movement he 610 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: continued to spur on until the very end. It's you 611 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to fit all of the things that 612 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: everybody wanted to say into a year's worth of programming 613 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: and let it let alone a couple hours. As we've 614 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: mentioned numerous times on the show today and yesterday, we'd 615 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: love to see your emails and sending those two tpt 616 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: at TPUSA dot com. I will be honest with you. 617 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: I we pulled out a bunch, started a bunch and 618 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: have read through dozens and dozens and dozens, and they're 619 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: just too many, quite honestly, to go through one obviously 620 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: read everyone's, but even pull certain ones out, it's it's 621 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: too it's too big of a feat to accomplish. So 622 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go through and read some of the 623 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: ones that I've starred, some of the ones that look 624 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: good and sound good. Sandra starts off, Dear Joe Bob, 625 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: my heart hurts. I'm profoundly sorrowful at the assassination of 626 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: a wonderful man, Charlie Kirkham. Proudly are profoundly blessed because 627 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: he gave me hope, inspiration, and joy. And she goes 628 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: on and similar phrasing, and it's just bad. I think 629 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: right there too. The inspiration and joy that Charlie brought 630 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: to so many people around this country and honestly around 631 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: the world. They were talking about this Andrew Blake, Jack 632 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: and Tyler who were filling in on Charlie's show today, 633 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: that he was in Soul, South Korea, and people recognized 634 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: him there. It's in Japan, people recognized him there. The 635 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: guy inspired people again not only in a in one generation, 636 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: not only in one country, but the entire world, which 637 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: was believable. Karen says, love for Charlie watching the show tonight, 638 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: grateful for airing what were what it is that we're airing. 639 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: There's one that I did want to find here specifically, 640 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: it gets lost in the fray a little bit. I 641 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: will update it as as it is. It'll it'll come 642 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: up here at some point, but I can get I 643 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: can characterize it. Someone said Charlie inspired them to plan 644 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: a trip to Israel, and here it goes Kevin. Kevin said, 645 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: Charlie inspired me to visit Israel, planning the trip as 646 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: we speak, praying for his family. I my wife and 647 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: I three years ago today. We were sitting on the 648 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: couch yesterday last night and she had pulled up some 649 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: memories on her phone and it was both of us 650 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: riding camels through Israel. And the reason I bring that 651 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: up is one, it is a fantastic place if you 652 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: have the time and resources. I couldn't recommend it enough. 653 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: Seeing all of the different geographical locations of biblical events 654 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: that you've heard about for your entire life is surreal 655 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: and unreal. And I'm glad Charlie inspired you to do that. 656 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: But two, Charlie was the reason why we went. We 657 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: went as a part of Turning Point. Charlie orchestrated all 658 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: of it. And there's a group of people that we 659 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 1: were with and we texted them last night and said, 660 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, this time, exactly three years ago, we were 661 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: riding camels through Israel thanks to Charlie, courtesy of Charlie Kirk, 662 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: and you know, that was an unbelievable experience for myself. 663 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad he has inspired you to do the same, 664 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 1: and I wish you the best on that trip. Donna says, 665 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: proud of y'all. And there are so many like this. 666 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: I can't again, we can't get to all of them. 667 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: There's there's too many like this. Prayers and blessings on 668 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: your confidence to carry on which I can't tell you 669 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: how much I appreciate that, because, you know, to be 670 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: completely frank and completely candid, there are moments you know, 671 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: holy cow, like what is it that we're doing? And 672 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: then you know you're you're you're met with. One of 673 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: the message that Charlie would have said was you got 674 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: to keep keep moving, keep going. And I believe that wholeheartedly. 675 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: But to say that that comes naturally and easily would 676 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: not be the truth. So I very much appreciate that. 677 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: Roz says, thank you for continuing. Chris says he didn't 678 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: ever meet Charlie, and this is again another sorry, Chris, 679 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're a man or woman. 680 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 3: It's k R. 681 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: I s so sorry, sorry if I misgendered you. Charlie 682 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 1: would have liked that. Joke says I didn't ever meet Charlie. 683 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: But Charlie felt like family. I watched him every day 684 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,479 Speaker 1: on RAV. We'll miss him so much, And that again 685 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: is another sentiment of you know, he felt like family 686 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: to so many people, especially considering how often he would 687 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: engage with folks through the audience in real life, in 688 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: public and events and in all of the places that 689 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: he did that RS as Charlie Kirk has always been 690 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: influential to me, and then asks how he can be 691 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: more involved in the conservative movement. And there's been a 692 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: number of emails that said that, and I think the 693 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: best thing to do is to continue having the conversations 694 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: that Charlie would have wanted you to have. I think 695 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: not I think I know he understood that not everybody 696 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: was going to be on stage talking to as many 697 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: people as you know he would, and so he would 698 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: be encouraging of people to get out in their community 699 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: and engage with folks and be in the in the 700 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: space of the people that you did have influence over. 701 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: Charlie Wood would so often say, you know, have those 702 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 1: conversations with your family, have those conversations with your neighbors. 703 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: Make sure that you're speaking truth into the people that 704 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: you do have the influence over. And so to answer 705 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: the question that that is how you stay involved in 706 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: the conservative movement more specifically, I don't know if this 707 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: is private information, but it's just it's fascinating. But turning 708 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: point as an organization is having a very very difficult 709 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: time keeping up with the amount of people that want 710 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: to get involved here. I won't get into too many 711 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: specifics of it, but the outpouring of love and also 712 00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: want to be involved. Is to say massive would be understatement. 713 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: It is. It's currently a big technical problem for just 714 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: the servers can't handle it. There's so much, so many 715 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: people coming in. So if you wish for that to 716 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: be the way you get involved, in addition to having 717 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: conversations with your friends and family, I'd encourage you to 718 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: do that and don't be don't be dissuaded by the 719 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: website maybe not working, because that again has been a problem. 720 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: It's one of the best problems to have. By the way, 721 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: if you're going to have a problem, you want to 722 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: have a problem like that. But that is, you know, 723 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: another way to get involved, you know, and continue the fight. 724 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: Bill says, calling for the Holy Spirit. He thanks us 725 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: for what we're doing every single night and greatly, greatly, 726 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate that. Karen says, this is the show last night, 727 00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: watching the show, grateful for airing every one's thoughts about Charlie, 728 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: and I hope you thought the same tonight. Again, very 729 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: very influential people, not only in the movement but in 730 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: Charlie's life and obviously vice versa. Yeah, I just talking 731 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: to Tyler was really impactful to that he has known 732 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: Charlie the entirety of his career in conservative politics, and that, 733 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: I hope is good to see that you know, this 734 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: is not nothing has changed in the last fifteen years 735 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: of Charlie's passion. Going forward, we will see if we 736 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: can get to a couple more of these a little 737 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 1: bit later. I know again we can't read all of them, 738 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: but I think we understand that there are just a 739 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: ton of people who have been emailing Again TPT at 740 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: tpusa dot com. We'll try to get through a couple 741 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: more of them. I can't imagine a time where we 742 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: won't be reading memories of Charlie. But it is very moving. 743 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: And again I know I'm saying something obvious, but it 744 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: is unbelievable the outpouring of support and love for a 745 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: guy who meant so much to so many. Yeah, and 746 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: with that we will be right back after break. Welcome 747 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 1: back to Turning Point tonight. We've got a fantastic video 748 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: for you that Turning Point put out and with that 749 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: will leave you for this week. We will see you 750 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: next week. Thank you for sticking with us for this 751 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: rough couple of days, God bless America. 752 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: We're acting them about fifteen campuses and we're growing very 753 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 2: very quickly. And keep in mind, this is not just 754 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 2: a flash and the Pan movement. We're going to become 755 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: an institution to give them the power and the confidence 756 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: to stand up and let their voice be heard. I 757 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 2: started this organization when I was eighteen years old. I 758 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: decided not to go to college. I didn't get in 759 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 2: my dream school, which was the United six Military Academy 760 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 2: at West Point. I have this idea to galvanize and 761 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 2: motivate the future youth of this country around a core 762 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians. And 763 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 2: the ideas are really America is the greatest country in 764 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: the history of the world. Constitutions is the greatest political 765 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 2: document ever written in free enterprise, the most sured way 766 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 2: to lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all. 767 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 2: Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's 768 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 2: something that can win. We as Christians are called to 769 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 2: go into the public arena to correct error with truth. 770 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: So I go to college campuses and there's a lot 771 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 2: of error. We're all sinners, we are all living error. 772 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm far more interested in what God wants of me 773 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 2: than what I want from God. 774 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 5: I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm 775 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 5: very proud of my husband, and I know many of 776 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 5: you are too. You have worked so hard, and I 777 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 5: know a lot of you have seen. Obviously his video 778 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 5: is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus, 779 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 5: but no one gets to see him from my angle 780 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 5: except for myself and our children fall and the sacrifices 781 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 5: that he made this year. He's amazing. 782 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 2: I'm very blinding, and I would not have been able 783 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 2: to do any of it without Erica. And that's the 784 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: real truth. I'll tell you what you are here as 785 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 2: a grassroots response to the top down revolution happening in 786 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: this country. I want our Turning Point USA students to 787 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: receive a round of applause. These are the freedom fighters 788 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: of America. 789 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: And the media said the Turning Point could never run 790 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: a ground game. They weren't experienced, They didn't know Charlie right. 791 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 2: This is the greatest generational realignment since Stuck. This generation 792 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: is the most conservative generation that we have seen and 793 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: well over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What 794 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 2: young people especially are screaming at. 795 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: Is they say, give me a. 796 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 2: Structure that I can live my life by, and especially 797 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 2: with young men, more challenging of them, more saying you 798 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 2: know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk down to you. 799 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: Stop being a boy and become a man. You want 800 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 2: to learn what that means, Come the church and I'll 801 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: tell you what it means to become a man because 802 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: we have the greatest story ever told. What can I 803 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 2: do to save the country? You answer that question every 804 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: single day because you are doing the work to save 805 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: this beautiful republic. You are doing something that is bigger 806 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 2: than you. 807 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 4: If everything completely goes away, how do you want to 808 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 4: be remembered. 809 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: To be I want to be remembered for courage from 810 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 1: my faith. 811 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 2: That would be the most important thing. Most important thing 812 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 2: is my faith in my life.