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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat, back to the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Morning Combat. Hello. Hi,

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Speaker 2: we are back in the bombshelter, the orchids of Combat,

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Speaker 2: whatever name you just want to call it. Brian Campbell, Luke.

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Speaker 3: One hundred thousand YouTube subscribers can't be wrong. This show

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Speaker 3: is a phenomenon. It's it's catchy. You can't get it

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, my name is Thomas, is Brian Campbell. We're

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Speaker 2: from CBS Sports a little bit of Showtime as well,

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Speaker 2: and we welcome you to this Wednesday edition of the show.

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Speaker 2: Like the video, yes, hit subscribe many of you have.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that, for putting us over

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Speaker 2: the hump.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate our new subscriber who came on board for

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Speaker 3: wild their Fury three coverage just as much as our

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Speaker 3: us like a subscribe. Just as Luke said, and we

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Speaker 3: are just beginning, Luke, not just today but three days

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Speaker 3: for bellatur this weekend. Got some special projects to film.

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Speaker 3: If you know what I'm saying, and I'm not going

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Speaker 2: Brother, Okay, can we before we do anything else, because

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Speaker 3: Today, we have the Wheel by the way on getting

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Speaker 3: overnighted from the West coast for Friday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, death on Friday, that's right here, all right, all right?

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about your goateee?

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Speaker 3: No, this isn't a Manscape sponsor read but Luke, I

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Speaker 3: So this morning I was looking through my bag and

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Speaker 3: you know that little man Satchel that Manscape gave us,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking him like, I guess it'll work

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Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean? That cut testicles and

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Speaker 3: It's like being in the shower you see your wife's razor.

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Speaker 2: So what would you call this? Look like?

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Speaker 3: I wanted to try that with my thing. It didn't

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Speaker 2: Would you call this a coocked big boss man?

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Speaker 3: Definitely not cooked? Unfortunately, I think it's a little French

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Speaker 3: teacher David Appleton look one of our fine uh, one

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Speaker 2: HR violation.

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Speaker 3: But I woke up to a text from you, and

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Speaker 3: Things like this bottom line, Luk, it was a dream,

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Speaker 3: not reality. But I will cut your ass, all right,

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Speaker 3: wondering if I should send your TEXTU, I mean my text.

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Speaker 2: with topic number one. If we can, we have an announcement,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, A fight's not about the show per se.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes it was because Leon Edwards, although he had

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Speaker 3: And while this may have replaced the Morino Figuredo trilogy,

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Speaker 3: back at you. Wray Muswell has a lot of explaining

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Speaker 3: this fight interesting. Told without catching a case, this got

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Speaker 2: I think the UFC made one thousand percent the right call.

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Speaker 2: The first problem he has is that run is impressive.

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Speaker 3: As fueled that, right, Luke. I mean as much as

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Speaker 3: The easy answer would be yes to all, Luke, But

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Speaker 3: The tail end of his physical prime, which made it possible.

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Speaker 3: you can get fat again. Okay, because that's not sustainable, Luke, Okay,

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Speaker 3: sustainable for that dress you have to fit into you

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Speaker 3: What I can't figure out if is what if I

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous little column, ay columbe The one thing I think

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Speaker 2: The reality was that Kamaru Usman fight was always a

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Speaker 2: You just felt like Jorne Masball was up against it. BC.

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Speaker 2: The part that really took a turn about questioning what

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Speaker 2: think folks understand. Leon Edwards doesn't wow you with a

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem with mazwaldal situation. He obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: That would make sense? Right where you go? Again, he's

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Speaker 2: maybe he's a little bit younger, who might deserve it.

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Speaker 2: You could do Kolby's on the way up.

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Speaker 2: Rematch Nate Vicente Luk you could do that. I thought

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Speaker 2: what fight is more winnable. Let's say your Nate calls

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Speaker 3: This is a guy who style wise, I know it's

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Speaker 3: maybe I just fight Luk and it is what it is,

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Speaker 2: More lucrative and it's a better fight in terms of winnability,

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Speaker 3: was when they first met. I think that's more winnable

432
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,359
Speaker 3: for Nate.

433
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,879
Speaker 2: I tend to think I don't know what the answer is,

434
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,680
Speaker 2: but I think that his team believes that the Luk

435
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,639
Speaker 2: fight is more winnable. Which isn't to say that Luka isn't.

436
00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,920
Speaker 2: You might rank him higher than Masvedal, you might favor

437
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,680
Speaker 2: him to beat Masvidal, but there's a question of like one,

438
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,959
Speaker 2: Maswal kind of knows what he's up against. He had

439
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 2: three full rounds basically to deal with this guy. I

440
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 2: believe that's right. They fought three rounds or whatever. It

441
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,440
Speaker 2: was pretty close to that. You haven't fought Luk yet,

442
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,920
Speaker 2: and Luka might take some risks to kind of put

443
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 2: on a show, which could then create an opportunity.

444
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,439
Speaker 3: To get your get your angle on that.

445
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out why they

446
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 2: would go one direction versus the other.

447
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not that you're wrong, it's

448
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 3: not that you may be right in the end, but

449
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 3: I take the money against Orge. Do you think this

450
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 3: isn't on a rundown? But do you think Nate's looking

451
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 3: to get out or just get more money?

452
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Where's he going to go outside of

453
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: celebrity boxing to get more money?

454
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 3: Right, It's like you get one, you probably get one

455
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 3: unless you get a great fight and you get a rematch,

456
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 3: But you get like one Jake fight out of that

457
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 3: if you do.

458
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 2: But if you're if you stay with UFC, you know,

459
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 2: your problems that you've been railing against for a decade

460
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 2: now they just they don't go anywhere.

461
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 3: Could he get stupid money from Bellatore, which has history

462
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 3: with Scott Coker and Strike Force and Showtime and all that,

463
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 3: or another you know, or a PFL whatever. Could he

464
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 3: get comparable money for the type of money fights that

465
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 3: he gets in the UFC.

466
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 2: Who would he fight in Belaitore where he could sell

467
00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand review boys, Semtex? Aj McKee No, no,

468
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: it's too small.

469
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 3: No, it's too small and brand or be Jim McKee

470
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 3: and Nate Diaz.

471
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Featherway versus a welter.

472
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 3: I mean, well that could be the equivalent of maybe

473
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 3: one is the one of Strike Forces Nick Diaz versus

474
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 3: Frank Shamrock. Nate Diaz going and sort.

475
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: Of maybe a little a little bit and just pointing

476
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: out if you're Nate Diaz. You do have maybe one

477
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: or two potential big fights outside of UFC, but it's

478
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: not clear what other partner you could go to beyond

479
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 2: that to make a bunch of money. So it's an

480
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 2: interesting one. But in any case, Maswoll versus Leon Edwards

481
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 2: UFC two sixty nine should be a great one. Just

482
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 2: the same. By the way, any issue with the Marino

483
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 2: and Figuredo fight being moved.

484
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 3: No, you're looking at Anaheim. I believe very well reported

485
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 3: and data echoed that that's that could be the move. No,

486
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm good.

487
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 2: With that, lou all right, let's get to topic number

488
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 2: two if we can. Colorado, the State Athletic Commission in

489
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 2: Colorado has approved the use of open scoring. Eric mcgracken

490
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 2: is a lawyer, combat sports lawyer. He's more than that that,

491
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 2: he does cover combat sports. Sweet of quote. Colorado just

492
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: approved policy to allow them to use open scoring in

493
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: combat sports, of course, but more to that point, he

494
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: had made a big article about why it's relevant. Mark

495
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: Murmandi did some reporting on this for ESPN as well.

496
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: For folks who may know, a very brief explanation. Open

497
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: scoring is the idea that rather than the judge's scores

498
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 2: being tallied altogether at one time at the very end

499
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: of the fight, and then the scores being read one

500
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: time to the audience, to the fighters, to the fans.

501
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: They are given to the fighters on each corner after

502
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: each round. And when I say that, I mean the corners.

503
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: You get them in the detail the fighter ostensibly right, If.

504
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 3: You're going to give them the corners, you might as

505
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: well put it up on a scoreboard somewhere right exactly.

506
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: And there's other ways you can do it. If you

507
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 2: go back and watch the Canelo versus Austin Trout fight,

508
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: they did it one time after the eighth round.

509
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: Now that was because the WBC force for a stretch

510
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: had that option where a promoter at any point could

511
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: kick in that option. That was one where they both

512
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: agreed to it seven to be a very high profile

513
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 3: fight for it.

514
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: Now, the issue here is the same. If you go

515
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: to Colorado and you stage an event, you are not

516
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: required to use open scoring. It is elective if the

517
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 2: promoter wants it. Okay, BC say positive development for mixed

518
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: martial arts or is this a regression?

519
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: I think it depends on where you stand on open scoring.

520
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: So this makes Colorado the second state along with Kansas,

521
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 3: and I think what Invicta has done some experimentation with

522
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: that in Kansas. With that. Look at this topic has

523
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 3: been around in boxing because of that WBC thing, you

524
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: know which, but you don't see a lot in fights.

525
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's still a rule with WBC.

526
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: So it's the same debate. To me, I don't look

527
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: at this as as a negative. Are you are you?

528
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: Are you putting this part of the news into that

529
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: overall one championship rules that gets approved in Colorado Mark

530
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 3: Ratner thing? Or are you talking just about open scoring?

531
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: Uh? Column and column be both?

532
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 3: Actually I think the column three it just doesn't have

533
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: a lot of fire anymore than Mark Rattner thing. To me,

534
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: you know, like, okay, turn it on. Colorado doesn't like

535
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 3: the rule changes? Okay, cool, they barely go to Colorado.

536
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying is that's not the point I

537
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 3: get what I get from doing it. I think this

538
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 3: is more of a debate on open scoring and I

539
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: don't like it for boxing. Could it change UFC and

540
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 3: big time Elite MMA in a positive way? Luke just

541
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 3: sway me on that, Please sway me on that.

542
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Number one, let me just say

543
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: something about the Mark Ratner story, and we could put

544
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 2: it to bed, because I agreed there's a bigger story here.

545
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: But what I would just say is, currently the UFC

546
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: has been investigated twice by the Federal Trade Commission. They

547
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: are being sued for many things, but part of the

548
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: claim they're being sued by is that they are a monopoly.

549
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: This lawsuit has not been dismissed. It continues to go forward.

550
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: When a arguable monopolistic power vocally says on the record,

551
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: we're not going to go to a state that doesn't

552
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: then allows rule sets that would allow our competitors to

553
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: offer a meaningfully different product, you should probably pay attention

554
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: to that. Now, that aside talking about the open scoring.

555
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: Here is my view on open scoring because I just

556
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: mentioned the Canelo Trout fight. If you watch that fight,

557
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: what you end up learning is after they read the scores,

558
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: it was a very competitive fight. In fact, by that time,

559
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: even though Trout had been dropped in the seventh could

560
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: you argue that Trout was winning that fight by the

561
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: ninth round.

562
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: Even though the judges didn't end up seeing that way.

563
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 3: And even those are on camera score showtime scores. I

564
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: was one of those people who scored it in real

565
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: time for trut barely. And yes, you could have argued it,

566
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: which in this case it open scoring only exposed Texas

567
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: for the Texas.

568
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: So what happened in that fight was, here's the story.

569
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: It was very competitive. You could have had it a

570
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: lot of different ways, but it was a competitive ass fight.

571
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: And they read the scores after the eighth round. One

572
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 2: judge had it eighty to seventy one for Canelo, which

573
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: I can only say, is what impossible. It's nine rounds

574
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: to one plus if knockdown. Yeah, it seven rounds to

575
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: one plus. It's basically not possible. And so they were

576
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: clearly just mailing it in and it deflated the fight

577
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: completely because now Canelo knows he's gonna win basically no

578
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: matter what.

579
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: Doesn't finishing power, and.

580
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: It ruined the fight. At the end of they're okay.

581
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: So here's my point. Using that as an illustrative example,

582
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: I am perfectly willing to entertain the idea that maybe

583
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: open scoring is bad, that maybe it actually in representing

584
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: and in holding deer the fan experience ruins it for everyone.

585
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: Fighters love the idea of open scoring because they're begging

586
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 2: for transparency, which I think on its own terms is

587
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: actually a pretty strong argument. Most of the arguments against

588
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: open scoring are less like we don't need transparency, It's

589
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: more about, dude, what should the fan experience be here?

590
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: This is a spectator sport. We are selling tickets to this.

591
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: It has to have an entertainment quotion built in. Does

592
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: open scoring ruin that? And my answer is BC. I

593
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: don't think anyone has made the definitive case either way.

594
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: But when states allow this and regional promoters begin to

595
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: use this, now we can make broader claims about what

596
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: happens in fights when you have open scoring. It's the

597
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: attempt that I support, not open scoring per se.

598
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because boxing has more rounds, so there's more

599
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: suspense built into How did you interpret those rounds? Where

600
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: MMA has three rounds and they are five minutes, So

601
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: I guess in theory that can make it easier to

602
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: determine winner, although you can obviously just flip the opposite

603
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 3: and say it makes it harder. But in boxing, I

604
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: like from the built in entertainment. It's like a selfish,

605
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: nostalgic feeling here, I like the built in of not

606
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: knowing who's going to win, and then you add in

607
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: the did they get screwed? Is there some corruption there?

608
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: And I know you're gonna say, Okay, you're just supporting corruption. No,

609
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: I've always said, you make the referees and the judges

610
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: and the commission members accountable after every fight and bring

611
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: them out on the press, converse to the media and

612
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: have to explain it. I think you will weed out

613
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: the bad judges. I think you will not be able

614
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: to constantly have corruption because it would be so in

615
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: your face putting them up front the media that it

616
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: would fix itself. They don't want to do that. That's fine,

617
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 3: So I don't want it for boxing. That's my take.

618
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: Mixed martial arts so I think is just a little

619
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: bit different, Luke, Would it kill that? Would it kill

620
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: that same experience of not knowing? So maybe you you

621
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: still don't tell the crowd who won the last round

622
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: until you read the results, so in close fights you

623
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: still would have that suspense, right m H. Would it

624
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: improve the action if a fighter that isn't a natural

625
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: finisher realized that now they have to That's the real

626
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: question here.

627
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: Right right, there's a lot of ways this could shake out.

628
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: It could shack out right along the lines of your theory,

629
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: which is maybe in fights that go ten twelve round,

630
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: open scoring kind of ruins things, especially when you get

631
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: like the old Texas fuck off job and you're, you know,

632
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: you're nine rounds down, You're like, what am I going

633
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: to do at this point? Maybe it works better for MMA,

634
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: not as well for boxing, especially for a three round MMA.

635
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: That's one possibility. Another possibility is it doesn't make any

636
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: effect noticeably one way or the other in terms of

637
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: deterring or incentivizing action, but it provides great transparency to

638
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: the fighters. Again, when the fighters make claims like, hey,

639
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: we deserve transparency, I don't. I don't really know how

640
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: to argue with Again, their money what So make the argument,

641
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: why are fighters who are competing out there potentially risking

642
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: their lives? Why are they not entitled to scoring trans They're.

643
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: Entitled to fair pay. You know, That's really what I'm saying.

644
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: It was this, but what okay, but are you saying

645
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: in regards to open scoring, are they are they? I

646
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: don't know if they're necessarily Oh that I think I

647
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: would like to see an experiment, would you even like

648
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: to see the UFC go to certain states and try

649
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: it out, Yes, for real fights.

650
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: So this has been my argument.

651
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: Maybe bring it on the Dana Why Contender series experiment.

652
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it's again. The idea is not that we are

653
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: explicitly endorsing open scoring. What we are endorsing is we

654
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: just don't have enough information to make a call. And dude,

655
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: you know how it goes once you put that into

656
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: the rule books Colorado, notwithstanding, it's gonna stay there a

657
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: long ass time.

658
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: I want to move in with the girl before you commit.

659
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: That's right, dude, I want to say, I want to.

660
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: I want to.

661
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: You know, you want to live in Sin.

662
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: I want to live in absolute garbage Sin to see

663
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: what it's like. Then once we have some information about it, dude.

664
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: Germe Cruz for MMA Fighting wrote a story about how

665
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: some promotions in Brazil try to combat extreme weightcutting and

666
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: people are not making weight and they use a penalization

667
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: system with I think some places have. Sorry, he went

668
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 2: into a whole penalization system. So he looked at like

669
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: yellow cards and red cards. He looked at taking a

670
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: point from fighters who missed wait before they even competed,

671
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: and what they found was in certain cases, if you

672
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: took points from fighters who did not make weight, it

673
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: did necessarily change weight cutting in terms of making it worse,

674
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: and it did have an effect in the fights. They

675
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: were actually kind of able to notice that, but they

676
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: would not have been able to get that in information

677
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: but for the laboratory that enabled it. I am saying

678
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Colorado has opened the door for us to have a

679
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: much better sense of things, But we just need promoters

680
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: to go and try. UFC should have done this. We

681
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: remember they were doing on fight Pass all the Singapore shows. Yes,

682
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: they missed a golden opportunity to try it there when

683
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: they were their own sanctioning body. They could have had

684
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: all this data to make a decision, and they just said,

685
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: fuck it, we're not going to aggressive.

686
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: Asked Colorado, they gave, They gave the MM a world

687
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: chuck mindenhall, and now they're continuing to give.

688
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: Yes. And weed has been I mean, at the times

689
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: I have tried marijuana and Colorado, Wow, Wow, it'll lift

690
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: you out your shoes and socks in that bitch anyway.

691
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: Can we get more coffee?

692
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: One as Reef the Lost Cause says that bitch, you'll

693
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: have you dancing with the stars like Rick Fox.

694
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: Yes, that's great, that's great. Look, would you like to

695
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: welcome a member of our staff on to fill this

696
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: cop is the there's not a bit here. This is

697
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: a drug deal. It's just regular life, you know.

698
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: This is how Oh yeah, let's get dude in high

699
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: school before they hit.

700
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: Laws would prevent you from pat I can't make this.

701
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: I can't make Oh.

702
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: This is our producer, Ashley. Thank you.

703
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: Wow. I'm so surprised Ashley doesn't have a mask on.

704
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: I could have pored it myself. I'm not trying to

705
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: reverse gender roles. Thank you so much for that.

706
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: Thank you. I don't need any more coffee. I'm good.

707
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

708
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: He's like, you may put COVID in it.

709
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, I bet you did. Thank you. Thank you, Ashley.

710
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: You're fired. Get out? Yeah all right. Topic number three, Uh,

711
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: this is a serious one. I don't really know the

712
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: best way to introduce it, so I'll just do the

713
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: best I can do. We have a domestic violence problem

714
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: in combat sports. We might we might. So here's what

715
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: has happened recently. And this is what I say combat sports,

716
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't just mean MMA. We had several situations happened.

717
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: John Jones recently getting arrested for and charged with misdemeanor

718
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: domestic violence. But there's a police report and nine want

719
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: one call. You can hear to add to that if

720
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: you'd like to. Chuck Ludell was arrested. He put out

721
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: a statement saying, wait until all the facts are up,

722
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: fair enough, All of these guys I'm about to mention

723
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 2: are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

724
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: But then yes. It came out from reporting from Steve

725
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Morocco that fighting Brian Campbell that Luis Payana had also

726
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: been arrested for domestic violence. This is not his first

727
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: run in. He was rested earlier this year for robbery

728
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: and sudden snatching, battery and criminal mischief, you know, adding

729
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: this part of the details of the poleache report apparently,

730
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: or that he was punching two women with a closed fist.

731
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: The UFC has since released him, citing that the police

732
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: report was enough information for the that this guy has

733
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: enough struggles, basically in challenges he needs to get his

734
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: life in there.

735
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: They claim they tried to help him in between.

736
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: Which they probably did. I don't know, okay, I guess

737
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: I'll just ask you, is there a domestic violence problem

738
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: in combat sports?

739
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

740
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

741
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: I mean when anytime you package multiple arrests that make

742
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: these type of headlines, there is There's also an issue

743
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: rampant in any profession. And now does it get elevated

744
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: in combat sports or any sport in which you're taking

745
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: hits to the head. I mean yeah, to some degree, lou,

746
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: even though it's not like a cause for it or

747
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: necessarily the direct correlation. So we see a lot in

748
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: fight sports, especially people coming from other you know, places

749
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: of of of not lack of structure to get to

750
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: where they are today. These are no things to excuse it.

751
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: It just means I feel like we see it more

752
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: in these sports and I would love to see it end.

753
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: So the problem or the question you ask yourself now

754
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: is what are the responsibilities of the promoters, what are

755
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: the responsibilities of the networks. At the same time, I

756
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: made that comment regarding the John Jones situation, which wasn't

757
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: related necessarily to domestic violence, or that his most recent

758
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: events arrest was domestic related. It was just a overall

759
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: look at one star athlete that has continued to misstep

760
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: no matter what opportunities were given him. And it's just

761
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: the collective toll. But obviously the John Jones conversation will

762
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: end up being linked with this when it happens to

763
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: this fighter in Luis Pana and he's gone. Now, Luke,

764
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: does that unfair? Where one could go?

765
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: You know?

766
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: Do we should should should fairness involve a a zero

767
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: tolerance policy that would affect everybody? Yes? But Luke, I

768
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: think you also can can remember working anywhere at a restaurant.

769
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: If it happens to the dishwasher is more likely to

770
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: get fired than this is the manager.

771
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: Right, sure?

772
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: I mean that's just sort of value in how things work,

773
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: doesn't make it right. I didn't love Dana White's response

774
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: Tuesday at the press conference now in print when it

775
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: was tweeted out by the members that were there, basically saying,

776
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: you know, we had to let this guy go, but hey,

777
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: John Morgan asking what about John Jones? Could this happen

778
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: to him? Dana White basically saying this could happen to anybody.

779
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: When you read that in print on a tweet, it

780
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: looked very much like, hey, John's not actually guilty, could

781
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: happen to anybody. When you hear Dana say, you get

782
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: what he's saying. He's basically saying that no one is

783
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: exempt from losing their job because of this, which is

784
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: the right move. I'm harder on the UFC than I

785
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: am unboxing, which is more fragmented and unstructured, and you know,

786
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: for better or worse, and I'll tell you worse also

787
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: has more of a detailed history of this type of

788
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 3: stuff happening. UFC, though, is a publicly traded company at

789
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: a very elite point with the ESPN deal, I would

790
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: like to see luke some type of stance, even if

791
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: it's nominal suspensions that really don't matter because fighters only

792
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: fight twice a year more or less. To begin with,

793
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: you got to start steping in and saying we don't

794
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: allow this, we don't want this firing pain. It was

795
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: that move, So that's good to see. But if you

796
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: do nothing on the flip side to your bigger stars,

797
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: especially someone like a John Jones who now has multiple

798
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 3: accumulated missteps involving everything from arrest to drug test issues

799
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: and all that and beyond, then you are being completely hypocritical.

800
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, yes, there seems to be

801
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 3: an issue over this in combat sports. Let's take the

802
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: steps to stuff it out across the board, even boxing

803
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: promoters in that broken sport as well. You hate to

804
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: see these headlines. But if you're gonna let one person go,

805
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: do you have to do it across the board? If

806
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: you want zero tolerance, if you want to remove that,

807
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: if you want to say that we have taken a

808
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: stand against this, then yes you have to do that.

809
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: So I know they're gonna wait on the John Jones scenario,

810
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: and yes, innocent until proven guilty and all that, but

811
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: I would like to see when you're at this level

812
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: where the UFC is and publicly sold and all that,

813
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: where you are trying to clean up this pr.

814
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Let's take imagine we

815
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: just had candidates X and Y for an experiment. You

816
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: didn't know who was what. One ended up being the

817
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: John Jones situation. One ended up being the Louise Painty situation.

818
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: But take out that you didn't know that a popularity

819
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: levels or whatever. You just were examining the situations. What

820
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: could be the meaningful difference, not counting their box office appeal,

821
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 2: in the situations between Jones and Peanna. I'm not saying

822
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: they're identical. I'm not saying there is no answer. I'm

823
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: asking what is the meaningful difference between their situations that

824
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: war one which should be let go and one should

825
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: be wait and see.

826
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think the John Jones thing to echo my

827
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: pin is, I don't feel that it's just a domestic

828
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: Vallece conversation. For me, the John Jones conversation is just

829
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: a larger, larger you know, you get more privilege in

830
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: a longer leash when you're a super big celebrity and

831
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: a big star and a draw and the greatest of

832
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: all time, but you should also face a different level

833
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: of scrutiny just the same because you are representing that

834
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: brand on a much larger scale. So I don't I

835
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: don't look at the John Jones conversation as just domestic.

836
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: Are you trying to make this.

837
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: Just No, I'm just trying to I'm just trying to see,

838
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: if you wanted to, if you wanted to argue, which

839
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: maybe you don't, if you wanted to argue. Odd, No,

840
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: their situations are meaningfully different as it relates to the

841
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: crimes in question. What would you say, because at that

842
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: point the obviously they're not identical crimes, but what the

843
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: difference would be between them materially in terms of what

844
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: would justify getting cast off from the roster. I don't

845
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: know how you can make that call without taking into

846
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: consideration their brand power. It doesn't mean it's there's just

847
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 2: not enough of a difference to do that on this question, Dude.

848
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't know where to come down on it, because

849
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: obviously I do think we have a domestic violence problem

850
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: in MMA and in combat sports more generally. I forgot

851
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: to mention it, but how could I. The New York

852
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Times did a report yesterday on the situation with Cyborg

853
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: A bray You, who was a very decorated jiu jitsu

854
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: black belt out of Miami, Florida, and his team Fightsports,

855
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: and how there was, according to the reports in this article,

856
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: basically a systemic effort to and in three cases and

857
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: potentially more, to not hold sexual abusers to account and

858
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: doing everything you can to not let them be held

859
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: to account. It's a terrible story. So even in there

860
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: in jiu jitsu have it. Here is basically the problem

861
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: I think we're up against a little bit PC, which

862
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: is that I think it is a meaningful difference when

863
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: you argue that the UFC is publicly traded. That to

864
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: me is a different thing. I agree how different is debatable,

865
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: but I agree that's in kind not the same thing.

866
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: On the other hand, here's just where we are. Do

867
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: the fans and the media and the various players, the stakeholders, sponsors, networks, promoters,

868
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: do they really care enough to cast out domestic abusers

869
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: into the sport? And what that would mean, right if

870
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: you actually had zero tolerance, if you actually, in unison,

871
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: cast these people off, do you want what's left of

872
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: the sport? I don't think that they do. I think

873
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: that they want to find ways to fudget. I think

874
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: they want to look the other way when they can. Obviously,

875
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: some of these situations are morally complex. They're not all identical,

876
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: and all of them deserve a right to be In

877
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: a case of the criminal considerations, these deserve to be

878
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, handled, and they're innocent. I'll proven guilty in

879
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: many cases, obviously, But I just don't think there's pressure

880
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: from certain parts of the community. But they have to

881
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: shout for a long time to get heard. And if

882
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: the promo is what is the consequence for promoters going

883
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: and using people who have this history in terms of

884
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: the blowback all the incentive would be all the money

885
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: lost if you didn't use them, not the business consequences

886
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: that come from using them. And as long as there's

887
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: that asymmetry in the market.

888
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely that's it. There's no question about that. But when

889
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: you are at the UFC's level, which no singular boxing

890
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: promoter is and no other MMA promoter is, you would

891
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: it hurt them Luke to do the bare minimum and

892
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: come out and make a case that stance against this

893
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: publicly and say this is not tolerrated across the board

894
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: for any of our fighters, male or female. Nor do

895
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: we want this message put out there for our brand,

896
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: which by the way, appears on the Disney Network, because

897
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: we want to start to retrain our fighters who don't

898
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 3: all come from the same structured backgrounds and the same

899
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: you know, safe upbringings. We want to put a stop

900
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: to this. So even if you created a training program

901
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: within your PI and you suspended guys for six months

902
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: or nine months and at least put out there that

903
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: you know, you get multiple offenses in this area, we

904
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: are going to let you go. Why would that be?

905
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: Why is that a Is that hard?

906
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: That's not hard? I think it is hard. I mean

907
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: You're right, it's not. But what I'm saying is I

908
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: think it's hard for them because they have purposely backed

909
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: off of the Code of Conduct for the implications it

910
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: would mean for turning there. And I'm not saying to like, oh,

911
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: we don't want to cover domestic violence for these reasons.

912
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is the UFC knows that the more

913
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: you go down that line about we're going to have

914
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: this code and if you break it, we're going to

915
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: punish you. You have blurred the lines between independent contractor

916
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: and employee. And once they become employees, they can become

917
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: a union, and once they become a union, they can

918
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: change the whole business councilman.

919
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 3: Tell that to Paul Daily, you got fired for less

920
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: he did get fired. Okay, tell that to a few others.

921
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Miguel Torres made a joke and a tasteless one,

922
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: but he made a joke in any case. I'll remember

923
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen when Real Sports HBO did a report

924
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: on whether there was domestic violence problems in the industry,

925
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: and they did, they did try to make some improper

926
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: points where they compared like NFL to all of MMA,

927
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: but the Real takeaway was, and again some of the

928
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: math need to be double checked, but was there a

929
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: greater chance if you had any background in finding professional

930
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: mma in terms of that population, that they would have

931
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: a higher rate of incidents of domestic violence problems relative

932
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: to the national average. It's pretty incontestably true that it is,

933
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: and there's not much of an incentive within the market

934
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: to do anything about it. And without that incentive, I

935
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: don't know what. I don't know what happened.

936
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: I know it's putting a brand or a promoter or

937
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: a leader of a brand in a judgmental chair, basically

938
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 3: saying is this sin bad enough where if we don't

939
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: tame it, it could hurt our bottom line and it

940
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: could give a bad message. Or do I care about

941
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: this sin? More like Luke, if somebody came out and

942
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: made a you know, a Rachel slur or something. You know,

943
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: It's like, now we're comparing, you know, is this sin,

944
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: you know, forgivable or is this sin bad enough where

945
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: we have to get ahead of the story. I think

946
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: domestic violence sucks, so can we make it important enough

947
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: that people want to get out?

948
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: But this is not the same as John Gruden making

949
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: fun of de Maurice's.

950
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 3: I know it's it's a dicey area comparing any of these,

951
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: but to me, all of them suck. But also to

952
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Mexican violence, it's really bad. And if you have, if

953
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: you are more likely as a fight promoter to have

954
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: employees that could go down this road, you should also

955
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: be more likely to try to enforce and educate against it.

956
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, but I mean I think that goes to

957
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: boxing promoters, that goes to networks. It sounds like I'm

958
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: for giving them and I'm not. I'm just trying to

959
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: be realistic about it. It's like, dude, you want them

960
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: to do something about it? What in the UFC's business

961
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: model as it stands today and in terms of how

962
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: the fans receive them and use them, there might be

963
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: some fighters that go so nuclear toxic you can't use

964
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: them a war machine bjpen. At the end there, maybe

965
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: Lewis Panya has entered that territory. Yeah, you get the

966
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: idea where it goes so far it becomes untenable. But

967
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 2: as long as you're not in that case, I'm gonna

968
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: say it again, what who is pressuring UFC or any

969
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: promoter really to do anything about it? And the answer

970
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: is nobody powerful. That's the problem, and media has shouted

971
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: about it doesn't do much in the end. Sometimes sometimes

972
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: it can. Sometimes it can, I want to say. And

973
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: that's not to say that if you feel strong about it,

974
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 2: you shouldn't speak out. But people ask me like, when's

975
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: the US going to do something? I'm like, dude, when's

976
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: it going to be baked into their structure? If there

977
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: was a union and the union was this is why

978
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: I keep saying there should be a fucking union, because

979
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: if there was and all of these things were hammered out,

980
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: this question about the nebulous, what should UFC do, we

981
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: would already know between the agreement.

982
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 3: Hey, normal, Ray, maybe you've found your life calling and

983
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: you just haven't activated it yet.

984
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

985
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: I don't Maybe you're not the guy.

986
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm not the pied piper a fighter.

987
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: Maybe you're the next Marvin Miller, d moor Reice Smith.

988
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 3: Who else am I?

989
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: Miss? John will also make fun of my Probably I

990
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: hope he does.

991
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: Hope he does. I mean, Luke, maybe this maybe you

992
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: and and John s Nash should should do a you know,

993
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: a Robin Hood crusade to fix this game for the better,

994
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 3: even if it means sacrificing your own good name, that's heroic.

995
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: Well will you do that?

996
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: Because I just cracked Dick Jokes cashed in these checks beyond.

997
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: Hitch anyway, So that's a terrible thing that's happening. Okay,

998
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: with that in mind, let's go to some quick hitter

999
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: fight news if we can be c here, topic number four.

1000
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go through these and you give me

1001
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: some reaction to them. We got a bunch of fight announcements.

1002
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: We talked about the one at the beginning, mass Whatel

1003
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: versus Edwards, but there are others, namely we go right

1004
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: to it. What do you make of this one, Luke,

1005
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: Rockhold being out in his return against Sean Strickler.

1006
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: So I saw the video. It seems a legitimate what

1007
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: knee injury? Yes, So it's not like I'm gonna say,

1008
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: you know, rock Hole, do you this or that? But

1009
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: it's it's a continued it's a continued turn in the

1010
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: wrong direction for rock Hold, who has kind of had

1011
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: two careers in a way, Luke, you know the first

1012
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: one when he was great and puff upon ranked in

1013
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: the UFC Middleweight champion, and then everything that happened from

1014
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: one ninety nine and on, and that has been in activity,

1015
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: that has been getting knocked out in fights he was winning.

1016
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: That has been keeping a very arrogant posture as a fighter,

1017
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: which I think has been his downfall. And it has

1018
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: been some of the decision making, and he's been feuding

1019
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: with the brand. And he went on aerial show and

1020
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: spoke openly in certain areas. I thought, we're actually refreshing.

1021
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: This fight could have been a gateway for him to

1022
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: getting back into a really big fight. And if he

1023
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: goes out there, if he went out there and be

1024
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: Sean Strickland and reminded us in his late thirties who

1025
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: he could be, it could have been a nice springboard.

1026
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: Now it just seems like another setback.

1027
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: I am. I am curious to see if this comeback

1028
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: is possible. I don't mean to be I don't mean

1029
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: to be uh disparaging.

1030
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: What did him and Widman do to each other that

1031
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: night and that fight at UFC one ninety four, Right,

1032
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: we're never the same and the Connor although it's not

1033
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: that that fight with some brutal beating, you know, it

1034
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: was why one made an error in any but like

1035
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: they have both not been.

1036
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: The part is explainable, Herb Dean. Let that fight go

1037
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: way too long.

1038
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: Chris is still his son, just so you know though.

1039
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: Either way, it's still my boy.

1040
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: It's still my boy.

1041
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 2: Yeah you mentioned what under what circumstance with my daddy ever?

1042
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 3: Wow? So mister mister what you know what, mister Wideman

1043
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: and mister Heboss are really the the m v P dads.

1044
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: Your father, Yeah, your father is the the war machine

1045
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: of m v P.

1046
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: That's a little My dad's a little better, Okay, thank you.

1047
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: The mister and missus Ramsey of m m A uh.

1048
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: I don't think they murdered me at covered up a

1049
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: murder of the at.

1050
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean, what's worse. What's worse, Luke? Apathy? You know, like,

1051
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: what's wrapper? No, what's worse them actually hurting you or

1052
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: them not just just being indifferent, just being like, oh,

1053
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 3: that's my son.

1054
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you the difference. The difference is it's strong.

1055
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: It's hard to do it.

1056
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: At least they would have showed you that they cared

1057
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: a little by inflicting that. Like when I stab you

1058
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 3: in your sleep one day, Luke, it will be mostly

1059
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: out of rage. But there's a little bit of sick

1060
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 3: love in that, Luke.

1061
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think my dad's the issue with my

1062
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: laugh Maybe just be you all right? Next fight to

1063
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: let's bang, Let's bang. Take it on Augusto Sakai. This

1064
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: will be set for November twentieth.

1065
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 3: Okay, it's the right fight in his rise. Now that

1066
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: the it's not that the win over heart. Greg Hardy

1067
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: stamps that this guy is legit, but it's the accumulation

1068
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: of the good steps in the right direction that means.

1069
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: I want to find out now if Tovasa is legit.

1070
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: So I would have liked a bigger name to learn that,

1071
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: but you do have to learn it the hard way

1072
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: against the tough matchups. And Augusta Sakai is not a

1073
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: sexy one, Luke, but it might be an important one

1074
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: to find out. And if you beat them, dude, forget

1075
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: drinking out of a shoe, Luke, they'll get the whole

1076
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: you know, get a pair of underpants, get something different.

1077
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: Harry Szakai. Since his bell tour days is vastly improved,

1078
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: I agree with you. A very like interesting fight, per se,

1079
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: but an important one. I agree with that. Now this

1080
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: one is an absolute fucking barn Burner Brad Riddell out

1081
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: of City Kickboxing, taken on raphael I Fazzaiev. I mean, wow,

1082
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: oh wow, Yeah, he hadn't heard about this one somber

1083
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: fourth due You're talking about two great strikers going after it.

1084
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: I think both, by the way at times with a

1085
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: striking coach at Tiger Moyti at separate as, separate eras. Anyway,

1086
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: this is a hell.

1087
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: Of this is this is John Jones Ryan Bader level

1088
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: matchmaking where you got two guys that look like they

1089
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: could be faces of where the division's going, So why

1090
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 3: don't we have them fight each other?

1091
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: Totally? Jeff Neil is back in action against the Argentine

1092
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: Santiago Ponzinibbia. This will be like December eleventh.

1093
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: Okay, because Jeff Neil was going in a direction where

1094
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: you're like top ten, legit, badass, maybe future contender.

1095
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: And then the wonder Boar thing happened.

1096
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah in the time off, and wasn't he working like

1097
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: a regular job to try to make it me and

1098
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: it just wasn't the same guy and Ponzinibbia coming off

1099
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: of multiple injuries and time off, right, yes, now he

1100
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: did come he did, but he did. Has he made

1101
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 3: an official comeback?

1102
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: He made and lost?

1103
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: He lost? That's right, that's right.

1104
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: Allow. I think the Leach beat him if memory serves

1105
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: what happened Miguel Sorry Gaff.

1106
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: Jumping in with the Hey hey Gaff, great guy.

1107
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Great guy, heard of him? Sam Alvi will take on

1108
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: Ian set for February fifth.

1109
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 3: Are you smiling? Sam? Wow?

1110
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: Man?

1111
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: He has nine lives?

1112
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I'm surprised he's still there just doing the dude?

1113
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: Is there another run in Jurassic back to try to

1114
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: like like it? Will he ever be in true title contention?

1115
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: What is his ceiling beyond one day than making a

1116
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: movie about his personal life?

1117
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is he's he's had some real set.

1118
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: Would you like to work out with him with MK

1119
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: cameras present where you can.

1120
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Learn a little bit because he'll fucking murder me.

1121
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: No, he could teach you a lot.

1122
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: Luke.

1123
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I know you like being the teacher. I've been

1124
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 3: in the weight room with you, but it's like I can't.

1125
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: I can't. I really can't put you down for it

1126
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: because you care, you you want to teach, you want

1127
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: to nurture. You know what I mean, you overbearing piece

1128
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: of ship. You don't you can't help you.

1129
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: Here's what we're having. Here's what we're having, the dreams. Meanwhile,

1130
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: we've got you know, what's your face over there, Covid

1131
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: playing Sudoku or whatever.

1132
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: We're calling her Covid. Now, yes, somebody's somebody will cut

1133
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: your case.

1134
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: Here, okay, and that's it. And the last, but not least,

1135
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: we see we have Bellatore this weekend, so Bellatore is back.

1136
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: We have the semi finals of the light Heavyweight Grand Prix.

1137
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: We have the deem nemcov in your main event that

1138
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: we take it on Julius and Gliscus, and then in

1139
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: your Comaine Ryan Bader taken on Cory Anderson. Of course,

1140
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: Julius says, you know, BC is the fill in because

1141
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be Rumble Johnson, but he is

1142
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: out due to what it appears to be rather severe situation.

1143
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: This doesn't have the blinking light of of like sex.

1144
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 3: You know, live girls, come see that a Rumble fight

1145
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: for the title would.

1146
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: Have had Luke.

1147
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: Okay, we got it. We gotta put that out there.

1148
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: That is what's a weird way to describe it to.

1149
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 3: But once you get over that.

1150
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: That's how you would describe like one of those like

1151
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: porn video stores on the side of the road when

1152
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 2: you're driving. Yeah.

1153
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, somebody reached out to me about that.

1154
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 3: Have you seen this ship picture with the midget is back?

1155
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1156
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: They said, I think it's Fort Wayne, Indiana. And they

1157
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: say they have the most most adult clubs per per

1158
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: kapita and they're downtown. Yeah, I'm not going there at all.

1159
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: Go to Arby's, murder each other, to bath and go

1160
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: see the Midget of the Strip club.

1161
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: But look this fight card, this doubleheader when you look

1162
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 3: at it, when you get down to it, these are

1163
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: two very good matchups where look and gliscous And by

1164
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: the way, shout out to the folks who did the

1165
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: Belltour countdown show that you can catch on YouTube. We

1166
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: had a little little cameo in that, okay, did we

1167
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: voiced by Big John? These are this is These are

1168
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: very good fights, Luke. So you know, look, you want

1169
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: to see if Agliscus, who has done some things, you know,

1170
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: one on the Dana White Contender series but didn't get

1171
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: the call up, has put together a nice run here

1172
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: in Beltoor and is now getting that accidental chance. Will

1173
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 3: it be a Daniel Cormier like stealing of the show?

1174
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, Luke. We had our doubts about Cormier

1175
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: in that spot, and he went full bloom in front

1176
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: of it like andre Ward did before him in the

1177
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: Super six on Showtime, like anytime people have these breakout

1178
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 3: runs like Ryan Bader and the damn Heavyweight Bracket. This

1179
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: is going to be a good test though for a

1180
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: deem Nemcoff because we've seen him beat the guys that'll

1181
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: that'll make you impressive in this division and that we

1182
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: start to take him very seriously. Now be the guy

1183
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: on short notice without the same type of planning who's

1184
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: got nothing to lose. In Luke, he's coming in ripped

1185
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: and Gliscus is you can't win fights with abs, but

1186
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: he's coming in and ripped and then Luke, the better

1187
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the better matchup that I'm a little bit

1188
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: more focused in on because I'm not really sure is

1189
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: bater Corey Anderson because Cory Anderson feels like he's seen

1190
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: something Luke when they've sparred in the past.

1191
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll talk about that in just a second.

1192
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: But about on Gliscas. Is it terrible for Belatore if

1193
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: he wins, because Vadeem Nemcov is a name that we're

1194
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: trying to build up. He's got the fatal association, he

1195
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: has the wins over Phil Davis. Now he's got the

1196
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: wins over Ryan Bader. He's like a guy you can

1197
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: now begin to build. And here comes Angliscus out of nowhere.

1198
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: But by the way, the guy won and finished his

1199
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: opponent on Contender Series and has won every fight in

1200
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: Baltore since. Granted all three of those have been decision

1201
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: but he bet Jordan Young, who's the name that folks

1202
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: don't know. He's a very good fighter, dude. Like, here's

1203
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: the thing. Angliscus is like a good fighter. He's coming

1204
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: in short notice. But Nimkov is finally.

1205
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: Look unless together, unless you felt like namcof was somebody

1206
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna put on a T shirt and like, you know,

1207
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: really become a marketing gem, which I get put positioning

1208
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: him as legit and people are gonna watch for that reason.

1209
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: But I don't think it would be horrible or backbreaking

1210
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: because what this would show is that you really do

1211
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: have a competitive light heavyweight division. And that guy that

1212
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: wasn't even scheduled for the star studded tournament. If you

1213
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: can come in and win the damn title and then

1214
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 3: set up to fight the winner against either a Corey

1215
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 3: Anderson who's on fire so you know, and looks so

1216
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: good with Bellator, or your former champion and Ryan Bader

1217
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: should he come out of that, who's also your current

1218
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: heavyweight champion, then the this is this is what you want, Luke.

1219
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: And then if Rumble, hopefully he can come back, if

1220
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: Romero can work his way back now that he's debuted

1221
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: here at light heavyweight, there are some big matchups you

1222
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: can make down the road.

1223
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: You say short notice. That's true. The original opponent again

1224
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: was Anthony Rumble Johnson. But there's short notice and then

1225
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: they're short notice. What I mean to say is you

1226
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: can get an opponent change on a week or two

1227
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: weeks notice. This one's having been closer to like a

1228
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: month or six weeks almost, which is not an ideal

1229
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: training camp, but it's not a short amount of time.

1230
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: What I mean to say is we have seen fighters

1231
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: were very very good when they get a really late switch,

1232
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: they still win the fight. But it's kind of boring.

1233
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: Because they don't know what they're up against and they're

1234
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: feeling everything out for the entirety of it. Are you

1235
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: worried we're gonna get to one of those situations or

1236
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: do you think nim Club lets it fly.

1237
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm not worried. We're gonna talk to Julius and Gliscus

1238
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 3: this week, you and I at this set. I'm gonna

1239
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: tell him to his face, bro, this is your chance.

1240
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: You only get one shot sometimes in life, Okay, do

1241
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: not miss your chance to blow Come out swinging.

1242
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: Dude, you telegraph that joke.

1243
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, just come out. I mean, I don't mean

1244
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: to sound like a ex Canadian m M a star.

1245
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: But you know, if you're gonna come on, Julius, come on, brother,

1246
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: this is your chance. Okay, don't don't backdoor into that belt.

1247
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: Don't accidentally win that belt, seize that belt.

1248
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: All right. This is the day you're thought about the Carpadium,

1249
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: You're thought about Ryan Bader and Cordy Anderson. You think

1250
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: this is the sneaky fight wise, this.

1251
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: Is very sneaky because I think it's going to be

1252
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: very close. I'm very interested to see which which strategic

1253
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: flow the fight plays out at it's two wrestlers, so

1254
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: you're naturally telling yourself all the wrestling is gonna, you know,

1255
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: cancel itself out and let's see how they do boxing

1256
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: each other. I don't know. I know you've said this

1257
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: in the past, and I kind of agree. I wonder

1258
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: if Corey Anderson can take him down. I wonder if

1259
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: all the stuff Corey Anderson's talking that these guys have

1260
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 3: sparred and worked together in the past. But you know,

1261
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: Bater's team, they know, they know. What do they know?

1262
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: Is that just sparring stuff that happens, or did he

1263
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: show that he is the dominant force there? Luke Anderson

1264
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: is on such a good momentum. Let me talk about Mons. Well,

1265
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: the momentum, see is real. He's recovered from that, you know,

1266
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: in the transition from UFC to belt or he had

1267
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: that physical setback where he fell it. He seems to

1268
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: be in a perfect spot mentally and physically. Bater's not

1269
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: gonna be easy. But if he's gonna come in this confident,

1270
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: if he gets to this win, he may end up

1271
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: being the favorite in the final. Look, I'm telling you,

1272
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 3: Corey Erson is the sneaky, live dog in this tournament.

1273
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: All right, he might be. I can't tell if this

1274
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: fight is going to be wrestle heavy or strike heavy

1275
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: or kind of not a wild brawl but like a

1276
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: little bit all over the place, because I think it

1277
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: could go a number of different directions. The only thing

1278
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm up against is I still I'm not saying Cory

1279
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: Anderson is small for the weight class, but I am

1280
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: saying Bater is big for it. Yes, and so I

1281
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: do wonder over time does Bater's again they're gonna wait

1282
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 2: in at two of five? But is Bater's relative bulk here?

1283
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: Is that going to carry the day? I tend to

1284
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: wonder it. I tend to think it might, but I

1285
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: don't know.

1286
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: As long as it doesn't look like either of the

1287
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 3: Phil Davis Ryan Bater fights will be will be better off.

1288
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: Those are not the best ones.

1289
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: Respect Okay, we respect Ryan Bater aat fantastic guy. But

1290
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: I've asked him many times about the nickname Darth Bater,

1291
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 3: and you must to be a big Star Wars guy.

1292
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: I'm totally ready to grow out and nerd out with

1293
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 3: him and be like, no, Han shot first, bro, and

1294
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: that you know now, I saw that shit Grito and

1295
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: then he's always like, hey, bro, I don't really like

1296
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: star Wars. I just thought it was a cool nickname.

1297
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 3: Should we like, should we not clown that? But should

1298
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: we lose a little respectful?

1299
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: Why would you clown him for that?

1300
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: And should we? And he missed the boat on giving

1301
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 3: himself the nickname Master and it could have been something

1302
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: that elevated his brand to like different levels.

1303
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? How would you how would

1304
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: you introduce it? Would you say Master? Ryan?

1305
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 3: Bab No, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it, Ryan,

1306
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: even like you're damn right, sorry, wrong, You're damn right.

1307
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I love how BC's thought

1308
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: line is if I was a profighter and my last

1309
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: name was batter, I'm telling everyone a jerk off.

1310
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: Ye, yeah right, because it's all about that. Hey, you

1311
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It is it? It is a dude.

1312
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: The guys who publicly brag about masturbating do not have BD.

1313
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: I got bad news for you.

1314
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it is exactly. It's not in

1315
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: apples for apples thing where it's like, because my nickname

1316
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: is masturbaiterer, I'll support jerking off. It's more just like

1317
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 3: I'm the master baiter.

1318
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1319
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like there's a little bit

1320
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: of a subtlety in that.

1321
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a subtle whatsoever. I think it's you.

1322
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: Being like, wow, okay, all right, Well I'm waiting for

1323
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 3: Matt the producer come running and be like that's it, guys,

1324
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: that's we got to show.

1325
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: Listen. I am happy to tell you that this is

1326
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: uh you think Belta's can like this.

1327
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 3: Previous we were gonna put him in the countdown show.

1328
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: But let me get this straight. They talked about what.

1329
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, you know what, it could be a boost

1330
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: for ratings. I'd be into it if.

1331
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: You want. I don't even if I could say this

1332
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: on air, don't do it. You want beltmor to do

1333
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: what during their broadcast? Okay, that's it.

1334
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of their analyst. By the way,

1335
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: you know, I love Moro. Also, Josh Thompson. I used

1336
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: to work with that guy at a special, uh little

1337
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: roundtable we did in.

1338
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: The No You're Not Scarred by All Wow?

1339
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: Love that guy.

1340
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's it for the top five topics.

1341
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: Now we get to the other crazy parts of the show.

1342
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: A right.

1343
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: We do not have the wheel today because it's apparently

1344
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: it's shipping. It's in the it's in the air right now,

1345
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: it's on the way here, Luke, We're gonna revisit this

1346
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: later this week. We used to do a segment though

1347
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: that has had fairly contrasting, you know, opinions from people.

1348
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: It's either hit pretty good or horrible. Call me crazy.

1349
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: But the segments on life support right now, but we'll

1350
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: try it one more time. Let's try one more time,

1351
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: all right. So here's the premise here. BC can be

1352
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: a little ridiculous at times. Sometimes I have opinions that

1353
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: are that are just you know, they're just they're a

1354
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: little bit wet in the corners with conspiracy, ridiculousness, insanity.

1355
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: I want to see if you think I'm onto something here, Lucer,

1356
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: if you think I'm in fact, batshit crazy, we call this,

1357
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: call me crazy. All right, Luke, I got eight of these?

1358
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: Are you ready?

1359
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear it.

1360
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: Okay, the first one's the only long one. I know

1361
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: you hate long intros, but here we go. Benson Henderson

1362
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: was on the Shock Majority Show. You know Shock you

1363
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: know our guy right check checks my guy from MMA Mania,

1364
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: and he was asked about who he thinks the MMA goat.

1365
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: Is you ready forst quote? Okay, who cares about my opinion?

1366
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: Bendo said, but I'm not gonna put Habeb up there

1367
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: for the greatest ever of all time. You can eat,

1368
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 3: maybe consider him one of the greats at fifty five,

1369
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: but as far as one of the greatest of all

1370
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: time in all weight classes. Nah, you might have to

1371
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: miss me on that one. That's saying something greatest of

1372
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: all time. I think there are a good ten or

1373
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: fifteen fighters above him. I'm one of those purists who

1374
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: is about all about long Jeff as well, somebody who

1375
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: has been there and competed at the top level, not

1376
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: somebody who is thirty five and zero but only really

1377
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: has ten fights against top level guys end quote. He

1378
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: would go on to name VJ. Penn as his goat.

1379
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 3: Luke call me crazy, But good old Bendo didn't actually

1380
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: sound all that crazy in that rant until he did

1381
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: the ten or fifteen fighters above Habib. That part was

1382
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: fucking crazy.

1383
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: I don't understand what you're asking me. He didn't ask

1384
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: me anything.

1385
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: You just stated who was a good performance art at

1386
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 3: the very least? Luke is is Bendo onto something? Is

1387
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 3: it wrong to make that leap? Is there enough of

1388
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: a case against Habib being the goat that it's a

1389
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: very fair space to say, look, he's great, but he's

1390
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 3: not actually in the goat conversation because I think you

1391
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: can make a sneaky side case for Habi being the

1392
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: goat just on the domination level that we've seen and

1393
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: the big names he at least closed his career against,

1394
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 3: even though yes, with injury and with only finding once

1395
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: a year during some stretches, with the Ramadan scheduling, with

1396
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: a lot of things that went on, we didn't get

1397
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: him against the guys. We wanted to let alone Tony first,

1398
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: and we didn't get it consistent across the board. But

1399
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 3: Bendo's saying ten to fifteen guys better, that's where you're

1400
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: that's where you're getting a little crazy here.

1401
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: Uh, ten to fifteen guys better is a little strong.

1402
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how you want to handle this, because dude,

1403
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: you have different weight classes, different the eras part I

1404
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: can I don't think is the biggest impediment. But it's like, dude,

1405
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: do you want to count John Jones's record Because a

1406
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: lot of people don't because they want to say how

1407
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: much of that was under the auspices of peds against

1408
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 2: suspected never proven, but there is certainly that out there.

1409
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: Well, they proved some peak cograms at least.

1410
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I mean, I'm not saying he's had no infractions.

1411
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like to there's a debate about it. Certainly,

1412
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm.

1413
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: Willing to lower thirds. I wrote up lower thirds.

1414
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: For you guys. Yeah, I'm willing to concede that there

1415
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: might be. There might be. You can name up to five,

1416
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: depending what criteria you I'll just say ten to fifteen

1417
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: sounds weight.

1418
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 3: Those are not the lower throat. Those are not the

1419
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: droids that you sent for right there, Those are not

1420
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: the ones I sent. Thank you Luke for your answer though. Okay,

1421
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 3: But so you would be against somebody if they came

1422
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: out and said, look, I've seen them all. John Jones

1423
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: is great GSP, great silver graade. Habib's a go You

1424
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 3: would counter that.

1425
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 2: I will. To me, it's nick and neck between them.

1426
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: To me, Jones has a bigger and better body of

1427
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: work Habib has for the body of work, I think

1428
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: I just think he was better against his peers in

1429
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: terms of keeping the distance on them for longer.

1430
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 3: Okay, do you kind of answer without answer, but it's

1431
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: a hard question to answer. I appreciate you hearing.

1432
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's ten to fifteen, all right?

1433
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: Number two, Luke call me crazy, but he may be

1434
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: a lovable coach now that you want to. Regularly calls

1435
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: him mikey in public, as if he was the nerd

1436
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: neighbor in an eighty sitcom. But people forget really fucking fast,

1437
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: how much of a badass Mike Thomas Brown in the

1438
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: w EC actually was. Call me freaking crazy, Luke, his

1439
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: reputation and legacy because of how good of a coach

1440
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: he is and a nice guy he is, is somewhat

1441
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: making people forget the damn badass that MTB was.

1442
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: I know, I don't think it's Here's what happened. The

1443
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: people who are into the sport when Mike Brown was

1444
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: kicking everyone's ass, they're not really around for the most

1445
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 2: part anymore. So people have just forgotten it. And then

1446
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: once he made his run in the UFC, there was

1447
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: no real run to speak of. He did not have

1448
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: a very distinguished run because he was run down at

1449
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: that point. That was the end of his career, and

1450
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: he has completely changed the way people perceived him by

1451
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: virtue of how just how great of a coach he is.

1452
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: But if you knew Mike Brown at the time, Yes,

1453
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: Josi Aldo took his belt from him. I remember exactly

1454
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: where I was when he did. But dude, he I

1455
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: mean he he beat Uriah cleanly twice. Yes, And then

1456
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: there's a punch where he hit Leonard Garcia so hard

1457
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: you can watch Garcia leave his feet as he does it.

1458
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: It's one of the most like badass things ever. When

1459
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: he was in form, he was a hard.

1460
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: Because he's just a humbled ude. Because when I've seen

1461
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 3: him at fights or when you interview you wanna and

1462
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: he's lingering, You're like, yo, what Mike, Mike bro I'm

1463
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 3: like you fuck you were badass and you want him

1464
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: to be like damn bright and instead he's just like, oh,

1465
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: you know, like, oh thank you, but no, you know

1466
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: what I mean. Hm. But maybe maybe he's just a

1467
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: really nice guy. Maybe so maybe he's watching this and

1468
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: he'll close off the set and stand in front of

1469
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: the mirror Dirk Diggler style and just be like Campbell

1470
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: was right.

1471
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Campbell was not right.

1472
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, Luke, call me crazy, but the UFC C

1473
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: should consolidate the women's one hundred and thirty five and

1474
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five pound divisions into one open

1475
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 3: superweight division between the weights of one thirty five and

1476
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: one fifty five with one title, and oh wait for it,

1477
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: they should call it women's heavyweight. Call me crazy, bro,

1478
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: and it would span like six it would span one

1479
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: thirty five to one fifty five. It would span three

1480
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: weight classes because you can't even I look, one fifteen's loaded,

1481
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: one twenty five is finally starting to have like a

1482
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: legitimate top ten, thirty five, forty five and fifty five

1483
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: are dead on arrival. Why not make it one open

1484
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: weight and call it heavyweight.

1485
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. I like that.

1486
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 3: So that means, look, if you're a Manda Newness and

1487
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: you can make thirty five, you also are the best

1488
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 3: in the world at forty five. You may have to

1489
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: fight somebody like Kyla Harrison a fifty five for the

1490
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: for the UFC Women's heavyweight title.

1491
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: I like it.

1492
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we're on a good run here. Let's

1493
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 3: see if this keeps up. Luke, call me crazy, number four,

1494
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: But putting ketchup on your scrambled eggs is about his

1495
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 3: low class? Is willingly looking at nudes of your first cousins?

1496
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: Can we have the right lower thirds? That I said

1497
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: in these are the no the other ones?

1498
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: Is looking at nudes of your cousin's low class or incest.

1499
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: It's a low class is one of the first exits

1500
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: on the road there, Luke.

1501
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say that looking at nudes of your

1502
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 2: cousin is a little bit weirk.

1503
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: But this question isn't really This question isn't really about

1504
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: the nudes that was? That was you know that.

1505
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't I'm not an catch one this guy,

1506
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: but I don't I don't condemn it quite the way

1507
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: you do it.

1508
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: Okay, you guys got the good the right lower thirds. Okay,

1509
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: they had all jokes, they were like, you know, it

1510
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: was a mind game. Yet really okay, all right, number five, Luke,

1511
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 3: call me crazy, but the way you pronounced the S

1512
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: in Ronda Rowsey's last name is fucking weird. It's pronounced

1513
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: as if it was an S, but it really should

1514
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: be pronounced as if it was a z bro. Don't

1515
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 3: be that guy. What do I say Ronda Rowsey every

1516
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: single time? Rod Rowsey? Everybody knows that hopa knows that ship.

1517
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: It's always been that way. Luke, you just missed it,

1518
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 3: and I don't want you to miss it anymore. Hey,

1519
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,959
Speaker 3: Mark the cameraman, how do you say Rondo's last name

1520
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: Rowsey with a Z? Thank you? Jacob Docum, how do

1521
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: you say Rondo's last name Rowsey with a Z? Thank you?

1522
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't I tell you what I think.

1523
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: I think you're all wrong, and I'd like to hear

1524
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: some clarification from her.

1525
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 3: All right, we need a deciding vote, Chris, not a

1526
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: deciding vote if we're not voting on this, Chris, Ronda

1527
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: what Rousey with a Z? Thank you? Thank you?

1528
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: Yes? Everyone who doesn't know how to pronounce letters?

1529
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh okay, here we go next number six, Luke, call

1530
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: me crazy. We don't tend to show a lot of

1531
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 3: forward love to these specific nineties bands I'm talking about.

1532
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 3: When we talk nineties rock and the good shit, we're

1533
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: usually talking about grunge, you know, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden,

1534
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: Alison chains Right, Radiohead. If you want to go a

1535
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 3: little different direction, call me crazy. But the first Match

1536
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: twenty record was fucking awesome. Blue so was the first

1537
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 3: Third Eye Blind and the first two Bush records, and

1538
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: even the first live record and those back to back

1539
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: records from Google Dolls and Oasis. My point, Luke, nineties

1540
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: pop grunge might be guilty pleasure listening, but nineties pop

1541
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: grunge at its very peak was fucking awesome. And I

1542
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 3: may not tell a lot of people that I still

1543
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 3: love it. I love that, Luke.

1544
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: Okay, is there a question here?

1545
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Am I crazy?

1546
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? You're a fucking idiot. That's the worst fucking album ever.

1547
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm the drive down here last night.

1548
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: I had I Had Yourself or something someone like me

1549
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: by by Matchbox on and I, you know, it's It's

1550
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: not something I'm going to put out there and to

1551
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: everyone like now listening to this. But at the same time, Luke,

1552
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: you gotta have some of those those you know what

1553
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 3: I mean? Like the nineties awesome that that that run

1554
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: of pop rock with grunge, tint and a little bit

1555
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 3: of other genres sprinkled over it. It's so much better

1556
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 3: than the commercial one that came after it, with kid

1557
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: rock and Limp Biscuit and all those bands of JR.

1558
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 3: Like you can't support me at all on No nineties

1559
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: pop Grunge to You sucks the Horn the first third

1560
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: Eye Blind album. No, you're not even willing to say that.

1561
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: Bush wish you would step back.

1562
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: Bro Okay, I'm not here to say that Bush is

1563
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: the manliest band ever. But they have four A plus hits.

1564
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't think we listen in the music the same four.

1565
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: A plus hits. The rest of the everything else they

1566
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: wrote is a yeah.

1567
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: And when I was fifteen there were money upon replay.

1568
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: They don't quite stand the test of time, do they.

1569
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: All Right, maybe I'll call you crazy. Maybe that's the

1570
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 3: new signator. All right, Luke, number seven, I got two

1571
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: more for you. This pretty good. We're keeping the segment alive.

1572
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 3: All right, number seven, Call me crazy, Luke. But people

1573
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: would respect and appreciate whoever is the holder of UFC

1574
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: records for most wins and most total fights a lot

1575
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 3: more if it wasn't Jim Miller, Donald Cerny and Andre

1576
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 3: Arlovsky that keep swapping the number one spot back.

1577
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: To each other. No, that would. It doesn't matter what

1578
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: names you put in there. People have a hard time

1579
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,480
Speaker 2: understanding the significance of those accomplishments.

1580
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say that like it. Oh, because

1581
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 3: these guys are journey men. People look down on it.

1582
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: But if this, if these records were held by GSP

1583
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 3: or Anderson Silva instead, I think it's something you would

1584
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 3: hear on the broadcast all the time. People would be

1585
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 3: talking about it as if it's a badge, where now

1586
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: we talk about it.

1587
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: The reason why GSP and Silver don't is because it's

1588
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: hard to compete on that kind of schedule and win.

1589
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm crazy here a little. Yeah, all right, we'll see

1590
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 3: if this segment comes back. Last one, Luke, I got

1591
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: one more free, Hopeful this one's good. Call me crazy,

1592
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 3: But O. J. Simpson was the fucking worst, right, this

1593
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: guy's like the worst, Like, like I love watching highlights

1594
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 3: of him running the ball like they were really good

1595
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: and the ahead of their time, and he wore low

1596
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 3: level pads and he swiveled very good. But he gutted

1597
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: those people.

1598
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 2: Nicole Brown Simpson, Yeah, yeah, like, like I don't like him.

1599
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: He did that probably, I'm telling you, yeah, I mean

1600
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: I believe he did. There a question there, because it's

1601
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 2: the worst. It's like the worst, you follow him on Twitter. No,

1602
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't know you should see that.

1603
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he likes to He likes to.

1604
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: Do with some some betting, sports betting analysis, and a

1605
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: lot of I Told you sos along the way.

1606
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: Sports sports betting. He's not much of a gambler. He

1607
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 3: does like big lines, though, Luke, if you.

1608
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, I bet I bet you. I

1609
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: bet you do too.

1610
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 3: All Right, that segment, hey call me crazy, but if

1611
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: it's if it ain't the wheel, it sucks in the show, Luke. Apparently,

1612
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 3: let's do what you got, all right, Luke, we got

1613
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 3: one more segment for the people here. Let me regain

1614
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 3: my composure. Morning Combat at gmail dot com is your

1615
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: home to send in your dead wrongs on Friday, but

1616
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 3: every Wednesday it's for you to send in yourself wearing

1617
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: our clothing or a meme that you created that Luke

1618
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: were about to shot on. It's called fan submissions.

1619
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: Fan subs, We've got mail, all right.

1620
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 3: Jordan with an E signing in, says, my girlfriend Mia Maya.

1621
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: Maya was pretty hot in the nineties, right, little sneaky.

1622
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: She went to Georgetown from Maya from Ghetto Superstar fan.

1623
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: M Ghetto Superstar, that is what you are.

1624
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: That is what we're not. So we got hopes and dreams. Right,

1625
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: She's surprised him the morning Combat mug this week. Uh,

1626
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 3: he has watch Jordan with an E has watched most

1627
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 3: of the episodes of this podcast since it started. He

1628
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: loves BC sense of humor. He hates Luke's politics. Yes,

1629
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 3: still watches anyway for the MMA news coverage. Keep up

1630
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: the good work. Ps. Cannibal Corpse is Boomer death Medal.

1631
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you know what's amazing about that? I've heard

1632
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 2: modern death metal. It's the least creative shit ever.

1633
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 3: Okay, but how good is Jordan's lady Maya? I think

1634
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: it's Maya that she she surprised him with this. She

1635
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 3: surprised him with this.

1636
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: That's good. I mean, I'm glad to see he has

1637
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: since posted bail after the January sixth incident.

1638
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 3: Oh wow, come on, that looks you think he was

1639
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: the one who shinned Pelosi's drawers.

1640
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: He's definitely he rubbed his balls on the escape key. Come.

1641
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you Jordan for sending in your love

1642
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 3: of us and your hatred of the things Luke stands for.

1643
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 3: All Right, we have a Jordan with an A is

1644
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 3: our second slider. Hey, Luke, rate my cable management. But

1645
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: keeping keep in mind the setup includes cables for PS four,

1646
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 3: laptop led backlighting, and screen facing camera that sinks LEDs

1647
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 3: to video in real time. And b I'm renting and

1648
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 3: I can't drill anything into the wall. Zoom in rate

1649
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 3: his cable management.

1650
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah zero? Why am I looking at fifty thousand cables?

1651
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: And why do we have one that I could if

1652
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 2: I was Tarzan and I could swing to go get Jane?

1653
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: Could you have more cable? He goes at a zip

1654
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: line to get from the living room to the kitchen

1655
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: with the fuck He's like, this is like, this is

1656
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: like someone took a ship in her hand and rate

1657
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: my art. Yeah, it's a fucking zero. We did that

1658
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: in five documentaries. Luke.

1659
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: Thank you though, to Jordan with an a for watching.

1660
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 3: Do you want to Toto Corey?

1661
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: What are you saying.

1662
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: The same? Oh my god, you're right. So the TV

1663
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 3: and and holder they're calling it a com what is

1664
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: it a confidence monitor?

1665
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 2: It's a TV some shit.

1666
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 3: It's the same exact setup we have right here next

1667
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: to the camera right here that Luke, can I watch

1668
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 3: our cells on? Wow? All right? Hey, I don't. I

1669
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 3: always take it for granted that people would just watch

1670
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 3: us on their phone like while they're whatever. People actually

1671
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 3: put us on TV like we're.

1672
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm all surprised by that. Do you watch podcasts that way? No? Never,

1673
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: never watch podcasts that way.

1674
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: Granted we were washed, but yeah, please don't put us

1675
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 3: in four K please.

1676
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: I barely shower.

1677
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: Nestor slides and says, the missus and I were ready

1678
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 3: to head out as I always represent and spread the

1679
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: gospel of MK throughout the Tampa Bay area. You guys

1680
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: fill my ear hole every week as I work with

1681
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: Luke's intellect and BC's are your number one Cuban listener, Nestor.

1682
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 3: Most Cuban guys will tell you, Luke, they've got an

1683
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 3: eye for the women. Let's blow up and see this guy. Yes,

1684
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 3: look at the way he wears our shirt. Luke normally, Yes,

1685
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 3: he's seeing a gym before.

1686
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: Nestor right, yep, yep. Takes good care of himself.

1687
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 3: He has the kind of facial hair that suggests I

1688
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 3: might be able to fight, Like if you cross me,

1689
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm I might shive you. That's what he is. That's

1690
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: what it's. It's a little more. It's a little more

1691
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 3: exotic than what you got going on. Normally yours is

1692
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:04,839
Speaker 3: very mismanaged like cables.

1693
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: But today I didn't get the go to though, only

1694
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: one of the ball trimmers for that. Wow.

1695
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 3: Shout out to Nestor Luke. I like the art behind him, right,

1696
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 3: He's well read. He's into like psychic readings. Not really

1697
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 3: my shit, Nestor, but he likes women, you know.

1698
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: I like it when people send their fans subs and

1699
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: then we can judge them based on what's in their house.

1700
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 2: But I'm not even saying judge them fairly or accurately,

1701
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: just judge them.

1702
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 3: Thank you Nestor for wearing and buying our shit. Hopefully

1703
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 3: you got twenty percent off on Monday for one hundred k.

1704
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1705
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 3: Looks great on him and yeah, David Slides and Hi guys.

1706
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 3: As part of my anti fatty liver campaign gas stations

1707
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 3: the Silent Killers, I decided to walk from the station

1708
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: to my new job in Luke's favorite European capital. Here

1709
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 3: I am spreading the MK message in front of Cleopatra's

1710
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: needle and the Eiffel Tower. Speaking of e wrecked moments,

1711
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 3: can you please start advertising get Roman again. Wow, because

1712
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 3: you're dick not work manscape ball perfume turned my big

1713
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: dee into bad ed. Wow. Oh what I could do

1714
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 3: with a predatory loan to pay for that ish yours?

1715
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: The artist formerly known as French Uncle Pepe and alarmingly

1716
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 3: now referred to Brian by Brian as that rape French

1717
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: guy dave A. He's no longer putting his last name

1718
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 3: in the things, probably because you called him a French raper.

1719
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 3: This is our expat friend who works in France. He's

1720
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 3: a teacher. He molds young minds and Luke, look at

1721
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 3: him wear our shirt next to the fallacy of that arc. Right,

1722
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: that's great, that's that's statue. Look at those.

1723
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: Eyes, Luke, Yeah, the eyes of a murderer.

1724
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: All right, Scott sliding in with a live chat meme.

1725
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: Let's see it.

1726
01:15:53,120 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 2: I can't so here we go? Can you? Okay?

1727
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 3: Is this funny?

1728
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: Luke? To some he spells alcohy we spelled alcoholic. Didn't

1729
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: spell it right? Alkay halic alcohol halic. I'm an alcoholic.

1730
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, thank you, Scott? All right, Luke, Adam

1731
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 3: says BC decision making every episode of MK. Here's his meme.

1732
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, squid game.

1733
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't, but I've taken the red pill a few

1734
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 3: times that I know that dilemma.

1735
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: All right.

1736
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 3: Rob has two photos. Hey, MK, team, the Season of

1737
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: Screams and Scares is officially hare as Halloween is right

1738
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 3: around the corner. I've picked out some costumes for the boys,

1739
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 3: Luke as the classic Colt icon, Ash Williams from Evil

1740
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: Dead and Brian as penny Wise from Stephen King's It. Luca, Brian,

1741
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 3: could you tell us about your most memorable Halloween experiences,

1742
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: like favorite costumes, parties, and horror films. Rob, that is scary.

1743
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 3: That is scary as shit right there. Wow. Yeah, but

1744
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: by the way, penny Wise scares the frick out of me.

1745
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: I watched that movie in this version of it. I

1746
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 2: watched it actually in Colombia.

1747
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: The movie was called ASO like Killer Clows from Outer

1748
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 3: Space is fun. That's like, you know, it's like goofy fun.

1749
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 3: This is sick shit. I haven't even seen the movie,

1750
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 3: but just this guy's face in like the it's a

1751
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 3: little scary, a.

1752
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 2: Little scary for you. I don't have any great I

1753
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: never had a really good costume.

1754
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't have great I didn't really, I've not had.

1755
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: Bad Halloweens, but I don't have one that was like

1756
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:31,879
Speaker 2: a grand Halloween.

1757
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Remember, you know how there's an

1758
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 3: unofficial age like where you would stop buying like the

1759
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 3: the three dollars costume that you can get it like

1760
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 3: your cheap Walmart equivalent department store, and you actually like

1761
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 3: make your own. There's that age crossover where it's like

1762
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: okay to buy like the shitty one with the plastic mask,

1763
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: and where you actually have to like try. Right, I

1764
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 3: missed the memo on that, so I got invited I

1765
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 3: think it was like second or third grade to an

1766
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: actual Halloween party, and I showed up in a Gobots

1767
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 3: costume or Gobots, right. They were like the They were

1768
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 3: like the homeless alternative to Transformers. So not only did

1769
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 3: I have Gobots, which is like second rate, it's like

1770
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: beta compared to VHS. Right, Yeah, were like beta compared

1771
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 3: to I actually got the wrong maybe it was like

1772
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: up there, But what I'm saying, Luke, is that I

1773
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 3: showed up in Gobots with the plastic mask and like

1774
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 3: the that like thing you like the shirt that you

1775
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: slip and do that thrial like a rain tarp and

1776
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 3: I just looked like a piece of ship. And everyone there,

1777
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: Luke had good ass costumes that their parents made with

1778
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 3: like the mark with like the colors on the face,

1779
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: and they had the Thriller record. I'm so old that

1780
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: I went to Halloween party with the Thriller record and

1781
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: they just played the record over and over again. I

1782
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: stood in the corner while everybody else like hung out

1783
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 3: and laughed because I felt so self conscious about my

1784
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 3: Gobots costume.

1785
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: I have had some. I would like to make fun

1786
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: of you, but I've had I've had some. I've had

1787
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: some real what the fuck were you thinking? Yeah, yeah, moments,

1788
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: that's something you say.

1789
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: I've done a lot of the I'm just not gonna

1790
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: do the whole cost I'm going to be a college

1791
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. Mom's like, that's great. Which one you're like? Sandusky?

1792
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ? Now that's scary, Luke? Okay, should I just

1793
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: call hr?

1794
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 2: Now? All right?

1795
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: Jose A is here? Hey, donk, says jose Alfonso. Here,

1796
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 3: this guy's becoming a regular here. You're number one fan

1797
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 3: from Brazil and certified BD Brian's donk every day, donk

1798
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: every day. First of all, thank you so much for

1799
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: recognizing me as a regular of this show. I've been

1800
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 3: here since day one and haven't missed an episode, and

1801
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: for that, I have two memes this week for you guys.

1802
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 3: First time, I have a request, please do another year

1803
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: end wrap up show this year so newcomers are aware

1804
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 3: of how crazy and weird this show is. The other

1805
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 3: meme is it's oh so first, this is the wrap

1806
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 3: up show? Can we mean it?

1807
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 2: That's fair?

1808
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 3: Fair, that's not wrong.

1809
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: Also, your haircut there is a little U drill instructor. Yeah,

1810
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: it's very.

1811
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 3: It's very Uh what's that guy's name from the OKC

1812
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 3: bombing tim tim Timothy mcveil. I was gonna say more Rosie, No,

1813
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: it's more it's very McVeigh. That's when like they don't listen.

1814
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 3: You want the mid fade and then.

1815
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 2: You got the the end of the haircut.

1816
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: You've enlisted. Yeah, all right. The second one is a

1817
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: knock on our favorite quasi bench Katari bench presser. Luke,

1818
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 3: You're truly a gem to the m m A world

1819
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 3: and we love you. Not an artist like BC, but

1820
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 3: still pretty good. Keep up with the practices and congratulations

1821
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 3: on the one hundred k everyone at the m K team.

1822
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 3: You truly deserve it. Jose thank you for being our friend. Okay, Luke,

1823
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 3: what do you think about this meme?

1824
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: It's fair?

1825
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 3: So really you're saying jose A Fonzo should step his

1826
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 3: meme game up, But thank you for the support.

1827
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, listen, if we're going to insult

1828
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: the donks with cable management, they have a right to

1829
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: fire back. So yeah, I can't. I also cannot remember

1830
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 2: a time I was. I mean, I can remember it,

1831
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: but I don't know what it's. I can't. I can't.

1832
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: Those days are long gone, all right. I wasn't always

1833
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,440
Speaker 2: a Dodge Neon. I'm not saying I was a Corvette.

1834
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1835
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 3: I drove a Dodge Neon from age twenty one too

1836
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 3: until I got married.

1837
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 2: You are a Dodge Neon?

1838
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I had the Salsa red Dodge Neon, so

1839
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 3: it looks look a little sexy.

1840
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 2: Where were you on? If people unironically had the Volkswagen.

1841
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 3: Beetles, Oh that was big where I'm from.

1842
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: When we were kids, weren't beatles like the rage you.

1843
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: Know, punch buggies of the new ones or the old

1844
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 3: ones either. Yeah, they were big, but whatever if you

1845
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: were like a if you were a drug rug, you

1846
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: probably drove a punch. Buggy in my eye spoke you know, Okay,

1847
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 3: you were you were cool, you slayed, Okay. Armando's here, Hello,

1848
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: Dunk commanders. I thought you might appreciate the references. But

1849
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 3: I love the show and have been watching since episode one.

1850
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 3: Let's see what this guy's.

1851
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: Got, Dunk. This isn't two thousand. It's time for some

1852
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: dad rock, limp, biscuit food fighters, dying fetus, and then

1853
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: that's candle corpse in my hands. I'd like to beat

1854
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: with some buttthead thing. I don't quite get the red eyes.

1855
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: But oh, are we high?

1856
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 3: I guess we're high?

1857
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, that would explain it.

1858
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 3: Jason's here, he says, what's going on, fellas Jay from

1859
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 3: Boston back for the fifth time. To begin, we all

1860
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 3: must testify and pay our respects to the new BC.

1861
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: Much respect to you BC for ridding your life of

1862
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: the sloppiness of the old guy slugfests and gas station food.

1863
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 3: We baptize you, my brother Brian, in the name of

1864
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: Father's son and street Jesus Amen. That sounds a little sacrileged,

1865
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 3: but Luke do you appreciate this meme just the same

1866
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: they're they're they're washing me of my sins for liking

1867
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 3: BKFC seven or eleven.

1868
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: Someone put some effort into it, Okay, some effort in.

1869
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: Next, I have to reignite the artistic fire that BC

1870
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 3: suggested a few weeks ago.

1871
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: After That's fun.

1872
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: After filling in for Luke's live chat the Thursday night

1873
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 3: Live Chat Wars, it's time that BC gets in on

1874
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 3: the live chat game. And maybe it doesn't have to

1875
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: be every week, but a friendly competition every now and

1876
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 3: then would be a great addition to the MK content content. Luke,

1877
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 3: I did petition to the show to have my own

1878
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 3: live chat and go head to head with you. I

1879
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 3: thought it would be great for really putting a line

1880
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 3: in the sand and our fans are you here for Luke?

1881
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: Are you here for peace? Like are you are you?

1882
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 3: Are you francessa? Or are you are you Russo you

1883
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and they they turned me down.

1884
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to take that Pepsi challenge,

1885
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: we can do that if you want. I think you'd

1886
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: be very disappointed.

1887
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 3: Over time, I think I would show you what time

1888
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 3: it is at least critically. At least critical, I.

1889
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: Think I think you'd be very disappointed with what the

1890
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 2: world shows you. Back, I looked up all the search

1891
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: terms as people used to find our find our channel.

1892
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: Your name doesn't fit in the top one hundred and fifty.

1893
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 3: That's because that they know me by various names beyond

1894
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 3: my so you know my government I.

1895
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 2: Think minus fourth or fifth. So we'll cut out there. Okay,

1896
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: we want to play that game. We can play it.

1897
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 3: As Jason just told us here, Luke, I'm not against it. Okay,

1898
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1899
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 2: It's a good logo. I'll say that.

1900
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,520
Speaker 3: You know, some people, Luke look at their dreams as inspiration,

1901
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 3: and you look it as inspiration. Yeah, dreamed about slicing? Yeah, okay,

1902
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 3: uh Luke. Lastly, just like you have said many times,

1903
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 3: be there really are Team Luke Donks and Team Brian

1904
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 3: Donks throughout the MK universe, and I made some merch

1905
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: for each team. Thank you both, MK all day, every

1906
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: fucking day. Luke, this is pretty good.

1907
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: Do you need to hug Brian? What's up the.

1908
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: Voice of the Voice of the Voiceless? Yes, this is

1909
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: actually a pretty good tea shirt. We should r J.

1910
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 3: If you're watching, get on the MK site get us

1911
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 3: something similar to this shirt.

1912
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, not that I agree.

1913
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 3: All right, two more for you, Tanner says, Hey, not sure, sure.

1914
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: What's the one in the back of mine.

1915
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 3: Actually, we should straight up steal this idea on the

1916
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 3: you know what, whichever sells more BC shirts around Luke

1917
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: Thomas shirts. We can donate the winner, though some of

1918
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 3: the proceeds to domestic violence certainly could. Okay, anyway, Luke,

1919
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 3: Here's Tanner. Hey, not sure if this fits more into

1920
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 3: d MS or fansubmissions, but here it is regardless because

1921
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: of what he's told us. Here's how I envisioned Luke

1922
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 3: telling his wife the rest of his family that MK

1923
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 3: has reached one hundred.

1924
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,839
Speaker 2: No, in fact, I do. I do exactly the opposite.

1925
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 2: I have learned the hard way not to tell them

1926
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: because the reaction is just routinely disappointing. So I've just

1927
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: I just keep it to myself true story. I don't

1928
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: tell well, oh you know what, I put her on

1929
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: social media, so they saw it that way.

1930
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: But we love you and we thank you. But way

1931
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 3: you sent me a very a very genuine text about

1932
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 3: like you know bro, like you know, fuck all the

1933
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: handclap and hands on the backs the bullshit. We made

1934
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 3: one hundred K and that's because you and I love you.

1935
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: And I was just like, it's a little and then

1936
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: he's like, I had to dream about stabbing.

1937
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: That didn't go out like that. Finally, Dylan says, hey, guys,

1938
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 3: big fan down here in little old New Zealand. Bringing

1939
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,560
Speaker 3: the best show in MMA to the Donks of the

1940
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 3: MK universe requires a real superhero effort. A superhero effort

1941
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 3: requires a super h zero or in this case, two

1942
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: washed forty something superheroes. This looks like a job for

1943
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 3: Fact Man and nobbyn Thanks for all your hard work.

1944
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: Shit, wow, quite candidly, Nobyn, I'd like to offer some

1945
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: facts if I may first wholly interrupting dick joke.

1946
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: Fact Man. Yeah, well I interrupted you before you even finished.

1947
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,560
Speaker 2: And the best part is they get go back to

1948
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: the full screen if you can't. Please they gave us.

1949
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: They gave you the Joel Schumacher suit that has nipples.

1950
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 3: Look yeah, oh yeah, Luke, I don't have that. You

1951
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 3: know that's not very functional on him. Man, though, call

1952
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 3: me crazy, No, I don't think it is. I think

1953
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 3: Joel Schumacher was having a little fun. Yeah, all right,

1954
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: that's a good one. You want to join this cavalcade

1955
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 3: of circus stars. Morning Combat at gmail dot com is

1956
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 3: the place to come and slide, right, Luke, I can't

1957
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 3: tell if us being in the studio today raised our game,

1958
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 3: if we gave a better show than normal.

1959
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 2: Or yes we did, Okay, we did. It was a

1960
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: good show today.

1961
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 3: That my work here is done.

1962
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 2: As a reminder if you want to get some merch

1963
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: which we don't quite have the I'm Luke Thomas or

1964
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: b Campbell. That's good, yes, but you can get this

1965
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: one Morning Combat Fight Club right now. You can go

1966
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: to Morning Coombat dot store and you can pick one up. Actually,

1967
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: this is this is really the This is my favorite

1968
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: piece of merch that we have. It's comfortable, it's it's nice.

1969
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 2: I like, the message is simple.

1970
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: You don't want to on it. I wear the white

1971
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: one that says, MKA, have a nice day, you know

1972
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 3: that one. I wear that one the most.

1973
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 2: I like that one. That's a good one.

1974
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 3: Also the one with it's not in the story yet

1975
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 3: for but we have the markups, the one where it's

1976
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 3: just your glasses. Yeah, and it says morning combat in

1977
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 3: the in the in the ship. I don't think that

1978
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 3: one's available.

1979
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 2: I don't think it's available, but we'll get it there

1980
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: soon enough. But there's plenty good stuff to go. Check

1981
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 2: that out. By the way, we'll have a big preview

1982
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 2: for the bel Tour fights this weekend. Only one place

1983
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: to watch them, Showtime. Go to showtime dot com get

1984
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 2: a thirty day free trout. If you like it, you

1985
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: can keep it. If not, you may go somewhere else.

1986
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 3: We will be putting uh Daniel inside of the lions

1987
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 3: Den when we do this resume review tomorrow. Let's see

1988
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: if the curses can can can can end this guy

1989
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 3: or maybe shadratch me, shotch and and Begnago can come

1990
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 3: in there and uh and get saved saved by the fire, Luke,

1991
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of biblical cross references there. What I'm

1992
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 3: trying to say, I think you're just saying, yeah, it's

1993
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 3: probably as well. What I'm trying to say, though, is

1994
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 3: let's see if the resume review curse can go to

1995
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 3: eight and oh we're going to find out when we

1996
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 3: record tomorrow. Ahead of this fight, when do you want

1997
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 3: to announce who it is?

1998
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: Uh? Not now?

1999
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, not now.

2000
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: So let's see what else we got the store, we

2001
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: got Showtime, we got the email. Oh, if you want

2002
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: a fifty dollars Apple gift card or no, sorry, fifty

2003
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: dollars gift card, do us a solid go to Apple podcasts.

2004
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,759
Speaker 2: Help us, uh, you know, interfere with the algorithm basically,

2005
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: just you know, hack the whole thing by leaving us

2006
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: a nice five star review. If they're funny, we'll give

2007
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: you a fifty dollars gift.

2008
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 3: I got one more thing, Luke. It's not just the

2009
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 3: viewers that I always want to thank, the one hundred k,

2010
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 3: the you know, all that stuff. It's not just you know,

2011
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 3: showtime at CBS and Malka, the labels that pay us.

2012
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 3: It's not just you I want to thank for all

2013
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,839
Speaker 3: of our success. One of our brethren, one of our teammates.

2014
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 3: It's not only his birthday today, but they told him

2015
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 3: he could stay home, but he wanted to come in anyway.

2016
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 3: It's our guy Gaff Gaffney Pierre, Yes, a producer, Extreme

2017
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 3: Gaff come on out here, and we with our with

2018
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 3: our huge budget, wanted to pay tribute the only way

2019
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: we know how. Taking a stale donut and putting account account? Gaff?

2020
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 3: What year is this for you?

2021
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:26,839
Speaker 2: On this Earth.

2022
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Thirtieth birthday? Former high school defensive end.

2023
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Do you have covid?

2024
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Gaff, you do a little music on the side.

2025
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 3: Do you do you want to share your your artist's

2026
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 3: name with the people often spaced?

2027
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you've got the MK hoodie.

2028
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 3: Go plug that ship. Okay.

2029
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm told, I'm told that he had the day off

2030
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: but insisted in coming in because BC and I were

2031
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 2: here or for other reasons that I'm I'm just making up.

2032
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 3: This is where you would make a wish, uh, hopefully

2033
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 3: involving Luke's down fall. But we'll see what happens here,

2034
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, go for it, Gaff. This was to you.

2035
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 3: Happy birthday to Gaff everybody. I won't sing the whole thing,

2036
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 3: but please blow us. Very nice job, very nice job.

2037
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, that'll be That'd.

2038
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: Be hard for him, not so difficult for me. All right,

2039
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: So do you have a happy birthday, Gaff? Please can

2040
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: play and all Hey.

2041
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 3: Gaff, is you know of all the people who deals

2042
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 3: with ship, that's the guy I said, have you seen

2043
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 3: the ship too? And that guy just cleans that up beautifully.

2044
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Yep uh okay. All right, Well, with that out of

2045
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: the way, if I want to thank Showtime, I want

2046
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: to thank CBS Sports and Malka and Happy birthday, Gaff

2047
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 2: and everyone out there like the video subscribe. That's Brian Campbell.

2048
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 2: We got a lot to do here for the next

2049
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 2: three days while we're here in Jersey City, so stay tuned,

2050
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Best place to do it, of course,

2051
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 2: will be all over social media and YouTube dot com

2052
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: Slash Morning Combat you see. Any final thoughts before we go.

2053
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 3: Chuck mindenhall, see you soon, boy, see you soon.

2054
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 2: I back, Chuck, I back. All right, let's Brian camell

2055
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: look Thomas. Until next time, all your gains be boiled.