1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, I lifted some spirits. I had big 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: day Ray, one of our producers. Here, go get some 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: burritos breakfast burritos. We call them loser rito's. Because we 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: lost the Sports Emmy nomination this morning. Nick Wright kind 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: enough to break the news to me in a text 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: message saying, hey, we got nominated, and I realized we 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: didn't get nominated, so I had to send a kind 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: of half assed heartfelt congratulations. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 3: Nick. I'm really happy for you. But hey, at the. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: End of the day, I still have the Danas, the 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: back room guys, this great audience here, Yes, Todd, and. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: Again, we were nominated several times, bunch in a row, 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: and we're in a category that's very strange compared to 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: some of the other shows that should be said. 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: You're not bothered. 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: I'm bothering disappointed. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 5: But I will still say that again, we were nominated 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: many times, and again it's a kind of a wonky 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 5: category who we're up against. Some of the types of 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 5: shows don't really match what we do necessarily, So those 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 5: are all. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: Factors which ones don't match. 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: No, like when it's like like when it's MLB or 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 4: Auto racing, masscar Tonight and some of these things. 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: And a studio show. Yeah, it's a daily student. The 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: shows don't line. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 5: Up greats in recent years with like what our show 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 5: is in my opinion. 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I choose to take the high road 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: and everybody's a winner my opinion, and congratulations on all 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: the nominees. Mel kiper Draft expert, will join us coming up. 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: Trying to get Mel into the Hall of Fame. I 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: don't know how important it is for Mel for a contributor, 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: but I want to get Mel into the Hall of Fame. 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: We'll check in with Carolina Sports Hubert Davis Getting Fired. 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Syracuse introduces Jerry McNamara, Baseball Opening Night, eight Yankees and 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: the Giants. Poll question seating for the final hour of 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: this previously award nominated program. 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: Multi Award nominated. 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 6: This one's from Paul, which is closer to Competitive Golf 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 6: TGL or Live right now sixty four percent have lived. 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 6: A problem for TGL is people keep getting the letters wrong, 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 6: which is never a good sign for your branding. So, 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 6: like I've got a text earlier it said, hey, maybe 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 6: PGL should do this. Then we got some replies saying 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 6: TPL would have to do this, so getting the letters 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 6: wrong is a terrible sign. And then this one's from Marvin. 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 6: Which program is in worse shape? North Carolina Basketball, North 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 6: Carolina football? Oh football has eighty five percent of that vote. 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: Dan, Opening Day. 53 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: On NBC in Peacock, it'll be Paul's Skeens visiting the 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: Mets than in primetime Diamondbacks against the Dodgers. That's Thursday 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: on NBC and Peacock. We segue into North Carolina sports. 56 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: Scott Fowler back with us Charlotte Observers sports columnist. What's 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: in worse shape? Carolina basketball, Carolina football? 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 7: Well, Dan, first of all, you're nominated in my book. Absolutely, 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 7: thank you, scon thank you. Sorry, I'm not getting any 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 7: of those burritos. But I think the answer to that 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 7: question is clear. Eighty five percent of those people are 62 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 7: indeed right, football is worse off. I mean, whoever they 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 7: hire here as a you know, as the basketball coach, 64 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 7: this remains one of the five best jobs in college sports, 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 7: and I have confidence that the program will return to 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 7: some prominence. But right now it's obviously lost some luster. 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 7: Really has How did that happen? You know, I think 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 7: that's a good question. Gradually and then all at once. 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 7: I think it became after Roy left. They have not 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 7: quite figured out how to sustain it. You know, Hubert 71 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 7: Davis had a great first year and the last four 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 7: years have been sort of trying to recapture that magic. 73 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 7: And the last these two first round exits in a row. 74 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 7: And in today's environment, I don't think this would have 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 7: happened twenty years ago. I don't think you get fired 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 7: for something like this. And make no mistake, he was ousted. 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 7: This was not Hubert, you know, a party of the ways. 78 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 7: This was Hubert wanted to stay. But yeah, I think 79 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 7: in today's climate it's very you know, a lot of impatience, 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 7: a lot of donors and boosters with a lot of influence. 81 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: And that's where we are. 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: And you're measured by the school eight miles down the road. 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: And they made a seamless transition from their Hall of 84 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: fame coach to john Shire. They've come up with incredible 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: recruiting classes here. So having that the proximity, if I'm 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: a donor, a booster, a collective, I'm only measuring North Carolina. 87 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: I don't measuring North Carolina with anybody else in America, 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: only with Duke. 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: That's a tough comparison. 90 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 7: Scott, Absolutely, I think you're right on the money there, Dan, 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 7: if Duke was in New York or something, you know, 92 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 7: it doesn't it's not the same. But because that is 93 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 7: the blue blood rivalry to end all rivalries around here, 94 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 7: and Duke has been so darned good and they're good again, 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 7: and they might win another championship. And plus now they 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 7: they seem to have employ the best player and employee 97 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 7: literally employed the best player in America. Like now, it's 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 7: been two years in a row with Cooper Flag and Boozer, 99 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 7: and Carolina had one of those players. And if Caleb 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 7: Wilson hadn't gotten hurt, I'm not sure that Hubert Davis 101 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 7: would have this would have happened, but it did. I 102 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 7: was at the game in Greenville when they blew the 103 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 7: nineteen point lead, and even then in the I was 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 7: in that postgame press conference and asked one of those 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 7: questions too, and oh it was. It was bad news. 106 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 7: One of the one of the low points of press 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 7: conferences I've ever seen. 108 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: I let me give you what information I got this 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: morning from a source saying I don't imagine Billy Donovan 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: is in play, nor Brad Stevens, Tommy Lloyd at Arizona, 111 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: johnsh Shirts at Saint Louis make sense. My source also 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: threw in Michael Malone feels like a super creative capable 113 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: option as well. Nat Oates feels like he's not controlling 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: his situation. Todd Golden appears to be possessed by spirits. 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: When he coaches. 116 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: Uh, what do you what do you make of that information? 117 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 7: Well, it's a lot of fun to speculate. Right now. 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 7: I can't tell you I know anything about really where 119 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 7: they're going to go next? Uh, except and I wrote 120 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 7: this today, uh in our in my Charlotte Observer column. 121 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 7: It's got to be outside the family. Dan, There're just 122 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 7: no There is no Roy Williams waiting in the wings 123 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 7: inside the Carolina Blue umbrella. You have to expand. And 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 7: all the people you're talking about are, you know, not 125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 7: in the really in the umbrella. But people always are like, oh, 126 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 7: only you know I went to UNC. I don't need 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 7: to have a UNC coach. Uh, you know somebody who 128 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 7: know where the old well is. You just need to 129 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 7: be able to win, and you have to be able 130 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 7: to beat Duke, and you have to get out of 131 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 7: the first weekend of the NCAA tournament every single year. 132 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: Scott Fowler, Charlotte Observers sports columnist. How involved is Michael 133 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: Jordan in the basketball program? 134 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 7: I don't think terribly involved. I mean, he can, of 135 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 7: course step in and help and be involved anytime he 136 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 7: wants to be. But my conversations with Michael and I've 137 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 7: seen a fair amount of him because he's so involved 138 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 7: in his NASCAR team right now. He was you know, 139 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 7: he won the big NASCAR trial here in Charlotte in 140 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 7: December and now is one four of six races in NASCAR. 141 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 7: I mean, that is that is where a lot of 142 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 7: his focus lies. He wants them to get it right, obviously, 143 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 7: But I don't think Michael Jordan is the man behind 144 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 7: the curtain pulling the strings here. 145 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: Haven't heard much about Bill Belichick in Carolina football. 146 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: Is that good? 147 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 7: It's probably good? Yeah? 148 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 8: Yeah? 149 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Okay? They finished Okay, didn't he? 150 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 7: I mean, I guess it wasn't an abject disaster by 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 7: the end, but they were still about four and eight. 152 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 7: I think I'm remembering that record right. 153 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: You know. 154 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 7: The funny thing is they opened spring practice yesterday and 155 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 7: then Hubert got fired at night the same very same day. 156 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 7: They'll probably be a little better. I think Belichick is 157 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 7: going to learn from some mistakes there. But that's one 158 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 7: where I just, you know, I just don't know that 159 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 7: that's honestly gonna work out long term. 160 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering what is long term? 161 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 7: M Yeah, I mean I think he's got one more 162 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 7: year for sure, and then probably a third and then 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 7: it better be right at that point. But if they 164 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 7: went two and ten this year, all bets are off. 165 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 7: But if they're six and six, which may be more 166 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 7: like what it's going to be, I think he gets 167 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 7: a third year. 168 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: Is he getting married? 169 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 7: I don't know, Dan. If so, I'm not. 170 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Invited, I mean either. Thank you, Scott, thanks for joining us. 171 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Great see again, great to see you. 172 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. 173 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: That's Scott Fowler, Charlotte Observer sports columnists and of course 174 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: my nickname courtesy of Chris Berman. 175 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: When I first got to ESPN was the Charlotte Observer. 176 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: Still incredible that I get there and my boss says, 177 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: I want you to watch for three months. I go 178 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: three months, and that's why I'd come in and I'd say, 179 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm just observing, and then Chris Berman called me the 180 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: Charlotte Observer, and then I went to my boss after 181 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: probably two weeks, I said, I don't need to observe 182 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: anything more. I'm good right now. All right, some phone 183 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: calls here, Ivan in Florida. Ivan, what's on your mind today? 184 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 9: Dan, You guys are not part of the machine. Dan, 185 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 9: You guys don't sell out. You guys are the rebels 186 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 9: of radio. That's why you guys didn't get nominated. And 187 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 9: if you guys were nominated, you guys would not attend 188 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 9: the ceremony. 189 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: True, we we would. It's open bar, yeah, Ivan. Now 190 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: if you had to pay, then we might not go, 191 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: but open bar. Yeah, don't want to miss that. Kyle 192 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: and Iowa. 193 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 10: Hi Kyle, morning, guys, thanks for taking my call, first 194 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 10: time caller, a long time listening. Six five forty five. 195 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 10: Just kind of curious with the Hubert Davis news and 196 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 10: obviously nothing has come out except for Twitter rumors or 197 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 10: ex rumors whatever, social media rumors about possibly the retirement 198 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 10: of Bill Stealth at Kansas. Just kind of curious with 199 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 10: you guys. Would think two Blue Butt programs obviously have 200 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 10: close connections with you know, Dean Smith and Roy Williams 201 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 10: and stuff like that, if both jobs opportunities came open 202 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 10: at the same time. Just kind of curious what you 203 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 10: guys thought would be the better job or the better 204 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 10: dream job. 205 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: I think it's a great question. I would say Kansas 206 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 2: because it feels like Kansas is not compared to anybody, 207 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: because Carolina is compared to do and vice versa. And 208 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: if you're Carolina right now, you're losing that battle in 209 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: more ways than one. With Kansas, it's you're a standalone. 210 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: They're both great jobs, but Kansas it feels like you're 211 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: in the air, you know, in your area. 212 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: Now. 213 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: Nebraska and Iowa, you know, are more consistent powers, but 214 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: Kansas has been. 215 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: There every year, year in and year out. Yes, Marv. 216 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 11: When it comes to college basketball, Kentucky, Kansas, and North Carolina, 217 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 11: are they the bluest of the blue bloods where they've 218 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 11: been consistently a threat for the past seventy five years? 219 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so. Yeah, it's rare. It's a 220 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: bigger story when they're not competitive than when they are. 221 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: We're just so used to it. In Milwaukee, Hi, Brian, 222 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 223 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 12: Hey guys, my condolences on the not nomination to all 224 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 12: of you. 225 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: You guys are the best, and you know. 226 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 12: Being on local television for almost thirty years, I know 227 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 12: the lows of not being nominated, but I also know 228 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 12: the highs of being nominated and winning. Yes, I have 229 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 12: some of those golden statues, and there's a sitting on 230 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 12: my desk, So I would like to give you one 231 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 12: to put in the man Cave. You can catch out, 232 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 12: you know, best weather man, whatever you can put, best 233 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 12: radio show, TV show. 234 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: Whatever you want. 235 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 10: I would love to send you one for the Man Cave. 236 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Brian, that would be great. We'll put you on hold 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: and Tyler will give you the information. I'd be more 238 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 2: than happy. Bob Costas gave me a Sports Timmy a 239 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. He had I think he had 240 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: one line around cans. He's like, yeah, I got one 241 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: for you. I said, all right, and then Bob showed 242 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: up that day. That's still one of those. Wait, Bob's 243 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: got a Texas longhorned baseball hat on. He's drinking beers 244 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: with us in the bar. And he surprised me because 245 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: I of course lost another Sports Emmy that time. I 246 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: got nominated and Bob won and Bob goes, you're gonna 247 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: have it, so I have it here somewhere. Yeah, we 248 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: got He didn't take that back. I didn't let him 249 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: take it back. It's like when Darius Rutgers sent me 250 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: his Grammy. I kept that for years until somebody from 251 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: the Grammys voting committee saw it on the show and 252 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: they said to Darius, you better get that back or 253 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: you'll never get another Grammy. And so we had to. 254 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: We had to overnight the Grammy to Darius. I mean 255 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: it was serious because I kept going, oh, come on. 256 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: There was some terse language directed at Darius. I don't 257 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: think he's won another Grammy since then. But he got 258 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: his gra He had it by his his nightstand and 259 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: I said, dude, nobody's seeing that. Let me have your 260 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: hooty in the Blowfish Grammy. And he sends it. We 261 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: were proudly displaying him. Carson Palmer, he sent us his 262 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: and then wanted it back. Yeah, PAULI, we're oh for six. 263 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 13: At the Sports Emmys, we got an email saying if 264 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 13: we were a band, like, what would be the band 265 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 13: we're like where we didn't win any awards, but we've 266 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 13: had a long run and so I looked up the 267 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 13: most Grammy nominations by an artist or band without a win. Grammys. 268 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 13: Take a guest who wants to guess modern guy very popular? 269 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: Oh? Is an artist or a band artist? 270 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 14: Oh? 271 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: An artist? 272 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 13: I'll give you a couple of hints. Snoop Dogg is 273 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 13: second all time, seventeen nominations, no wins. Derks Bentley has 274 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,239 Speaker 13: fifteen nominations, Katy Perry has thirteen, Diana Ross. 275 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: Thirteen and no wins none. 276 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: Okay, this person six nominations, no wins. 277 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 13: This person has eighteen Grammy nominations and his over. 278 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: Oh has like Drake won. 279 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 13: I don't have Drake on my list, so I think 280 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 13: he may have all right, Prince no current active current artists. 281 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: Okay, current active artist. 282 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 13: Here's the hint. 283 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: We all saw. 284 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 13: Him post malone, post malone, Oh for eighteen m post malone. 285 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start tattoo in my face. Hey, yeah, would 286 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: you do one Seaton? 287 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: Would you tattoo your face? 288 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: Would you put a tattoo on your face for a 289 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: sports or first sports emmy? 290 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: Sure? How about a tattoo of a sports emmy on 291 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: your face? 292 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 6: Under my eye? Tear drugs if people have to get close. 293 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: What is that right there? It's a sports Emmy. 294 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would do that, all right. 295 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 13: How about what post Malone once went over eight in 296 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 13: one night. 297 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that'd be rough. 298 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 6: That's tough, tough, Timmy shallow may. Actually he didn't go 299 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 6: over the movie went. I think, oh for. 300 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: A Marty Supreme didn't win anything. 301 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 6: I don't think Marty Supreme won anything. 302 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: I think it was nominated for eight. 303 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, that number might be off, but he was nominated 304 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 6: for several many many That movie. 305 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: Was all right, let me take a break. He is 306 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: mel Kuiper Draft expert. I want to see or hear 307 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: if he agrees with Dan Orlovski with all of a 308 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: sudden the love for Ty Simpson. Now, I did warn 309 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: you that this was going to happen. You had to 310 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: get another quarterback in there, and you're gonna get somebody 311 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: who is going to talk glowingly about a player. Just 312 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: like they build you up, then they bring you down. 313 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: They're building up Ty Simpson. We still have plenty of 314 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: time before the draft to bring him back down, but 315 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: mel Kuiper Draft Expert joins us. 316 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Next, be sure to catch the live edition of The 317 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show weekdays, at nine am Eastern six am 318 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,239 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 319 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: Go here with Tony Fosco. 320 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 321 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 15: As everybody knows, we're of the hosts of the award 322 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 15: winning Pouly and Toni Fusco Show. Yeah, but instead of 323 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 15: us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan 324 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 15: Packrick described us when he came on our show. 325 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated. 326 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: What are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, you wasn't 327 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: talking about you. 328 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 16: You took those clips totally out of context. 329 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 15: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you 330 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 15: out and beat you. 331 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: Let me put this into context. 332 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: Shut up. 333 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 15: Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Tony Fusco 334 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 15: Show on Ieartradio, Apple podcasts. 335 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: Oh wherever you get your podcasts? 336 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Yee, more phone calls coming up. I just stumbled onto 337 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: a country song title. Since we didn't get nominated for 338 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: a Sports Emmy. It's stopped whining, start drinking. Sounds like 339 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: a country song. I should have told that to Darius Rucord. 340 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: I just got this before we get to mel kiper 341 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Men's basketball operating revenue for Kansas twenty one almost twenty 342 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: two million dollars men's basketball operating revenue. For North Carolina 343 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: almost forty million dollars men's basketball operating expenses, Kansas at 344 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: almost twenty million, Carolina at almost seventeen million. So there's 345 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: a lot of money there because Kansas proud of its 346 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: basketball team. Carolina proud of its basketball team as well. 347 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: We make way from El Kuiper draft expert and you 348 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: can see him the NFL Draft Daily and the mock 349 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: Draft dropping on Tuesday, April fourteenth. Great to see you again, Mel. 350 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: Give me the one thing that would make you change 351 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: your opinion now that no games are played leading up 352 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 2: to the draft, but what information changes where you slought 353 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: somebody in the draft? 354 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 16: Dan Fruss were great to be with you as always. 355 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 16: I think the only thing you want to wait on 356 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 16: is guys. It didn't do much at the combine. 357 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 8: What do they do during their pro days? 358 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 16: Anything you hear from an interview, anything you hear about 359 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 16: an injury late Dan could alter some things. Certainly at 360 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 16: this stage of the game, you better know who can 361 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 16: play and. 362 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 8: Who can't play. 363 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 16: It's all those little things that you could tweak it with. 364 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 16: I'm coming up in another week with the top one fifty. 365 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 16: You do that every year, and those rankings, I tell you, 366 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 16: if you lose some sleepover and dan at the end 367 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 16: of the day. So many players in this draft are 368 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 16: within a range where you could go one way or 369 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 16: the other. You're only splitting hairs. This is one of 370 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 16: those drafts where you know, it's a lot of mixed 371 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 16: opinion and there's very few positions where you have tremendous 372 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 16: depth in the Day three, but wide receiver is one 373 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 16: of those. And it's kind of separate forty five receivers 374 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 16: dan and have draftable grades. 375 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 8: It's not easy. 376 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: But what is the one thing though that separates wide receivers. 377 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 16: Well in this particular draft, when you look at the 378 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 16: guys that at the production and the consistencay, hey, you 379 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 16: got to catch the ball. And I understand people say, hey, 380 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 16: you always have a couple drops that are concentration who 381 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 16: catches the football and you also have to weigh in 382 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 16: what was responsible for that? And you look at a 383 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 16: Zachariah Branch, who I love. He went the goat to 384 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 16: the gauntlet, he caught the ball at the combine, so effortless. 385 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 8: Sleep Let's say, well, he had a couple of dry 386 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 8: He's a bubble screen guy. He didn't throw the ball 387 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 8: down the field. 388 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 16: So it's how you view projecting a college player Dan 389 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 16: into the NFL. And if you remember back not that 390 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 16: long ago, Zay Flowers, Jordan Addison, Jackson Smith and Jigbo 391 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 16: Offensive Player of the Year Quinton Johnson, they were all 392 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 16: first rounders. There were some experts that none of them 393 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 16: deserved to be in the first round. 394 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 8: So all four turned three at a four turn that'd 395 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 8: be great. 396 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 16: So at the end of the day, mixed opinion reigns 397 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 16: supreme this year more than other. And the other Dan 398 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 16: that I can ever remember, because there's so many guys 399 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 16: with very similar grades. 400 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 8: And one little bit of information can swing it one 401 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 8: way or the other. 402 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: Is Fernando men Mendoza a great story or a great 403 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: quarterback or both. 404 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 8: Thank he's both. 405 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 16: Think he's a great story, he's a great quarterback. To 406 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 16: see him what he did Cal, to watch him, and 407 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 16: I did that the other day. I went back the 408 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 16: sacks that he took and it was like forty one 409 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 16: sacks at Cal and he goes to Indiana. He knows 410 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 16: he has to improve on that, and he did. So 411 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 16: that extra that year in college really benefited him. From 412 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 16: that standpoint, Dan Layton plays, how consistent he was making 413 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 16: the right decision late in a play was outstanding. The 414 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 16: way he did under pressure in games. Let me say, well, 415 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 16: they won in some cake walks, right. They didn't against 416 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 16: Penn State, they didn't against Argon. There were games that 417 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 16: were hotly contested. He had to make plays late. Iowas 418 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 16: defense will frustrate the hell out of you, Dan, they 419 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 16: really will. Phil Parker does a great job. Look what 420 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 16: they did against Dante Moore. You know, you think about 421 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 16: quarterbacks against Iowa, and again he did what he had 422 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 16: to do late in that game. So for me, he 423 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 16: answered every question that you had from cal to Indiana 424 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 16: because we had great talent well go into the year. 425 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 16: I know Omar Cooper Junior could be a first round receiver, 426 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 16: Elijah Sharratz a good probably a third round receiver. You know, 427 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 16: Roman heem Be came from Maryland, did a good job 428 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 16: running the ball, and Kaylin Black did a good job 429 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 16: as well, being at one two punch. But for me, 430 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 16: Fernando Mendoza for what he did from start to finish 431 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 16: with the pressure and in the playoffs stand eight touchdown passes, 432 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 16: no picks, and a rushing touchdown, and he was at 433 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 16: seventy five percent in the three biggest games of the 434 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 16: year at the end of the season. 435 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: If you were drafting him on what you saw at Cow, 436 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: not Indiana, where would Mendoza go. 437 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 16: Well, he probably you know, going into the year, you 438 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 16: hoped he would improve. If you would have just come 439 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 16: out after the Cow year, you probably would have been 440 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 16: thinking maybe because of the talent that he had. He 441 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 16: showed what he could do at col even when he 442 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 16: had some situations that weren't benefiting the quarterback that he 443 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 16: had to deal with. I'm talking about pressure from the 444 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 16: defensive front. He's still probably would have been a second 445 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 16: round pick, late first round pick. So he was a 446 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 16: guy that people thought. I'm on people in the NFL. 447 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 16: My friends in the league, Dan thought back in August 448 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 16: he could be a guy to keep a close eye on. 449 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 16: But there were other guys that were talking about arch 450 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 16: Manning being the number one pick guaranteed. Yeah, you're talking 451 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 16: about Sam Levitt coming off that great year at Arizona State, 452 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 16: Leonora Sellers at South Carolina. Tons of quarterback were talked 453 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 16: about a lot more than Ty Simpson from Alabama, and 454 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 16: certainly Fernando Mendoza from Indiana. And now all of a sudden, 455 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 16: I got Mendozo's number one of my big board. Dan 456 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 16: and ty Simson's twenty five won my big board. 457 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a big disparity, one to twenty five. Dani 458 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: Arrolovsky loves him some, Ty Simpson. What is Orlovsky seeing that? 459 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you're not seeing? 460 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know Dan when he explained it, and I 461 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 8: just went back away. I would counter to that. 462 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 16: You say, Okay, you know the factors that you have 463 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 16: to look at closely. You know who's the bigger quarterback 464 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 16: four inches nearly four inches taller, twenty five pounds heavier. 465 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 16: You think about the experience, Dan, fifteen starts is a 466 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 16: dangerous risky number for Ty Simpson. 467 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 8: Look a look at the you know. 468 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 16: The seven eight quarterbacks that had below twenty starts, and 469 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 16: look how they fared not well. So again that's a 470 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 16: risky number. Fernando has thirty five starts, Dan, he had 471 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 16: a completetion president seventy two percent. I was around sixty 472 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 16: four percent. Seven rushing touchdowns for Fernando, two for Simpson. 473 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 16: So you talk about accuracy, you talk about decision making. 474 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 8: You talk about being able. 475 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 16: To see the field, dealing with pressure to have about expectations. Dan, 476 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 16: when you're an Indiana quarterback and you roll through the 477 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 16: year and you get to the playoffs, everybody's saying, after 478 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 16: what happened last year, Okay, when you know Indiana had 479 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 16: a great regular season, then you lose a notre name. Well, 480 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 16: let's see if the Ana can finished the job. Now 481 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 16: they're playing big time opponents. He did that with all 482 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 16: that pressure. Then he wins the Heisman. Then he has 483 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 16: to go win a national title. 484 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 17: Right. 485 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 16: He always talked about cracking the code, and he is 486 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 16: obsessed with that. He kind of has that Peyton Manning 487 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 16: ability in that regard to just be so into what 488 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 16: he's doing and studying. 489 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 8: It so hard. He's got a little Matt Ryan in him. 490 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 16: So I think if you look at comps, it would 491 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 16: be kind of a Peyton Manning Matt Ryan comp for 492 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 16: Fernando Mendoza. Dan explained that I don't agree. Everybody has 493 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 16: their opinion. I was big on Shador Sanders last year, 494 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 16: and I thought Shador played well this year. 495 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 8: We'll see how it plays out. For Ty Simpson, I 496 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 8: think with fifteen starts. 497 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 16: Sure, I had sixty, but fifteen starts you need to 498 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 16: have a chance to transition to the NFL. 499 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 8: Another year at Alabama I think would have helped him. 500 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 16: He had five straight games DAN where he had a 501 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 16: fumble lost, and then he had another fumble loss which 502 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 16: was a sixth against Indiana in the playoff game when 503 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 16: he got hit by D'Angelo Pons and cracked that rib. 504 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 16: So those are at an area he could have improved upon. 505 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 16: He get sacked and coughing up. Can't do that in 506 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 16: the NFL, where you're expected DAN in the NFL, and 507 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 16: you guys know what you talk about every week, Guy 508 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 16: is a bad game. 509 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 8: What happened? He's not playing well. 510 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 16: You were scrutinized, you are picked apart and you're expected 511 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 16: to play at a consistently high level every week in 512 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 16: the NFL, and you don't get any free path because 513 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 16: you're a rookie or a second year quarterback in this league, 514 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 16: they will chew you up and spit you out before 515 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 16: you can blink. You better be prepared to deal with 516 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 16: that mental part as opposed to the physical part. Mendoza 517 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 16: went back, got another year, improved in that key area. 518 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 8: Ty Simpson. I think needed another year. He's not gonna 519 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 8: get it. 520 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 16: So you better be patient with ty Simpson and realize 521 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 16: to force him in this year as a rookie. And 522 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 16: they all do, Dan, they all are going to play. 523 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 16: Maybe asking little too much. 524 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: If Arch Manning was available in this draft, you. 525 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 8: Know, that's a tough question. 526 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 16: That's a very difficult question because of what you expect 527 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 16: Arch to be this coming year based on the talent, 528 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 16: the way he can run together. But he's got to 529 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 16: improve that accuracy and the decision, all the things that 530 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 16: another year is gonna been. 531 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 8: I was so happy. That's why I never put him 532 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 8: on the big board. Dan. I never put him in anything. 533 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 16: Because I said he's got to go back. Archie said 534 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 16: that back in August. Don't put him in it. He 535 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 16: needs another year. So the expectations and the struggles back. 536 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 16: Remember only in the year everybody was building up to 537 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 16: be to trifecta. Dan. He was gonna win a Heisman Trophy, 538 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 16: he was gonna be the number one pick in the draft, 539 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 16: and he was going to lead the Texas to a 540 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 16: national title. 541 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 8: Are you kidding me? Really, that's what. 542 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 16: You're gonna put on his shoulders and he didn't accomplish that, 543 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 16: so again now he's going back. So had it gone 544 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 16: the way expected, he'd been clear cut number one guy 545 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 16: Dan for on talent, but he didn't have that kind 546 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 16: of year. It was uneven, started out pretty bad and 547 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 16: then it got better and you saw, well, glimpse of God, 548 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 16: he's gonna be the guaranteed number one pick this coming year. 549 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 16: But to say, you know, assume that was gonna happen, 550 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 16: it didn't happen. It didn't come together, So he'd have 551 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 16: been right there with Mendoz. And I think that's minimizing 552 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 16: how good Fernando is. Dan when he say automatically put 553 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 16: Archie ahead of Mendoza. 554 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 8: It's not a force. 555 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 16: He's not up there because he's a quarterback and the 556 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 16: Raiders have to take a quarterback. Mendoza is there because 557 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 16: he earned it and he's got a lot of talent. 558 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 16: And when you got comps the Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan, 559 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 16: that tells you all you need to know. 560 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: Mel kiper Draft expert. 561 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: You can catch his NFL mock Draft four point zero 562 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: dropping on Tuesday, April fourteen. I fell in love with 563 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love when I saw him in person, and I 564 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: know I think you have him as your second highest 565 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: rated player behind Mendoza. I know that the philosophy is, 566 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: don't take a running back up that high, but I 567 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: have somebody who is unique and different than anybody else. 568 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: It feels like in the draft, I just don't I 569 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: don't understand that that. If I'm Tennessee, I mean, I 570 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 2: gotta have that guy. I can't go oh, I got 571 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: to worry about a second contract. The NFL was about 572 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: now in the next two years. It feels like with 573 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: these guys and coaches, So why wouldn't he go? Well, 574 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 2: how high do you think Jeremiah Love will go and 575 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: should go? 576 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 17: Dan? 577 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 8: You know who was responsible for that philosophy. I am right. 578 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 8: That was the philosophy that started twenty five years ago. 579 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 16: And I got screened that screened at, yelled at, tell 580 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 16: it all kind of stuff. And I really believe that 581 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 16: back in those days you could I've kind of come 582 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 16: around and not come around. But I'm agreeing with you 583 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 16: on this point. He's more than a running back. If 584 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 16: he were not a great receiving option, I'd be saying no, no, 585 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 16: he has not multi dimensional enough. But as a receiving option, 586 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 16: I'm talking about swing pass, the screen passes, dan checkdowns, 587 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 16: I'm talking about put him out in the slot, put 588 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 16: him wide. 589 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 8: He can do that. 590 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 16: So for me, because he's so more than just a 591 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 16: running back, he is worthy of being the second pick, 592 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 16: third pick to Arizona, fourth pick, the Tennessee, seventh pick 593 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 16: to Washington, wherever it may be. 594 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 8: So for me, yes, Christian McCaffrey, say for Washington. 595 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 16: Came there, you know, came to the forty nine ers, right, 596 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 16: and look what he's done for the Niners. Christian McCaffrey, 597 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 16: who was a gim Adam Peters. Adam Peters is at Washington. 598 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 16: Adam Peters had some serviceable backs, but he doesn't have eight. 599 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 16: Jeremiah Love for Jade Daniels, who's a fear factor quarterback. 600 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 16: You put a fear factor player weapon like Jeremiah Love 601 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 16: with Jayde Daniels. You got something special going on there 602 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 16: and so much for defenses to worry about. So I'm 603 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 16: with you on Jeremiah Love. He's the second best player 604 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 16: in the draft behind Mendoza. For me, somethink that he's 605 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 16: the best player in this draft. So again, he's more 606 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 16: than worthy of being a top four certainly if he 607 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 16: gets down to seven, it would be almost you know 608 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 16: how long you have to wait for Washington to take 609 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 16: that card up, because that would make perfect sense for them. 610 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: NFL Hall of Fame Contributors to the Game. I keep 611 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: talking about you. I never reached out to you, but 612 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: I felt this strongly about Brent Musburger and went to 613 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and wrote a letter. You should 614 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame one day as a 615 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: contributor to the game. 616 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 16: I appreciate that, Dan, and I know Adam has mentioned. 617 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 16: I appreciate that you've been great friends for all these years. 618 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 16: But I just feel like I don't want a part 619 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 16: of anything. I just want to do what I do. 620 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 16: Joe Buschbound was there before me. Joel was great, late 621 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 16: great Joel Bushbounce started this a long time ago. There 622 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 16: are plenty of other people doing this before me. I 623 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 16: just got an opportunity for me ESPN to take it 624 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 16: to the entire world and be somebody that was talking 625 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 16: about the draft one television, radio and nd dot com 626 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 16: and all the different entities we do it on. So 627 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 16: it is something that I will say, is Dan, one 628 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 16: thing I did get right was how popular the draft 629 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 16: would be when everybody was fighting against the ESPN. Don't 630 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 16: televise it. Nobody wants to just hear names called. Everybody 631 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 16: was fighting against me. Why is anybody watching the draft? 632 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 16: Why does anybody care? What Kuiper says. I've dealt with 633 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 16: that hostility, negativity, and hate up until really the early 634 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 16: two thousands, to when even the haters had to just 635 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 16: shut up or jump on board because. 636 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 8: They hated on me. 637 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 16: I started this in nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine, Dan, 638 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 16: and to I just say, the only. 639 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 8: Thing I did was I survived to hate. 640 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 16: If I read you the scathing articles and the comments 641 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 16: that were made from really seventy nine up until two thousand, 642 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 16: it would say, how did you last that long? 643 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 8: I took a lot of hits in the pocket. 644 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 16: Then I appreciate that, Pal, I certainly I would rather 645 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 16: avoid anything that comes my way from an individual. Stam 646 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 16: Becau's two eight people at ESPN along the way contributed 647 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 16: to what the draft has become. To say, I'm responding now, 648 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 16: I think it's the NFL, the king of all sports, 649 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 16: and ESPN doing what they did from the get go, 650 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 16: recognizing what this could be and having that vision and 651 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 16: then the production and all the blood, sweat and tears that. 652 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 8: Went on to putting this on television. 653 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 16: Those guys, all guys and gals, those men and women 654 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 16: deserve all the credit. 655 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 3: And it sounds like an acceptance speech right there. I mean, that's. 656 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: But I okay. I wrote a letter about John Facenda. 657 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: I said he should be in the Hall of Fame, 658 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: and the number of people said he's not in the 659 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: Hall of fame. In the Hall of fame, to their credit, 660 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: Uh found a way to get John Facenda. 661 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, that voice. Are you kidding me? 662 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: Dan? 663 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: But they want to be in the hall of fame. 664 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: That's he might be. 665 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: When you talk about contributors, all those NFL films, everything 666 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: that we saw, I mean, they were magical growing up, 667 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: and I just thought. 668 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 16: Voices, voices led us, but me to become I said 669 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 16: this to Bill Fleming, Bill Flemming and the great Bill 670 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 16: Fleming when I taught, I called him specifically to tell 671 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 16: him that that he the college football today, that's half 672 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 16: an hour show where you saw games before Branton, before 673 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 16: NFL today, Right, it's a half hour before. 674 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 8: Seen the bands at halftime. 675 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 16: That's what led me and led a lot of people 676 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 16: to becoming college football fans, right, and NFL fans and 677 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 16: Howard Cosell and Monday Night Foot and Don Meredith, will 678 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 16: you'll turn out the lights and all the voices of 679 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 16: college football and. 680 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 8: The NFL, Chris Shankle. 681 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 16: You think about Bud Wilkinson, by the way, I took 682 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 16: over for Bud doing the draft when Bud Wilkinson retired, 683 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 16: I took over that spot, right, And you think about 684 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 16: I say, Lindsey Nelson and all the incredible voices Keith 685 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 16: Jackson that were responsible for us all becoming great college 686 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 16: and pro football fans that we are. So you're right, 687 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 16: John Facenda, nobody had that voice. Nobody will ever touch that. 688 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: Thanks again, continue to have the passion. That's the one 689 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 2: thing that leaves us. I think as we get older, 690 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: the passion. And you're as passionate as you were when 691 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: I first met you when I first got to the Mothership. 692 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: So thank you again for doing what you do mail. 693 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 8: Well in the passion the windows that I will walk 694 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 8: away POW. I guarantee you. 695 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: That mel kiper Draft expert is next month. Draft will 696 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: be on April fourteen, Tuesday, April fourteen. Yeah, we pushed 697 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: hard to get Brent Mussburger in there, and John Facenda 698 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: mcloven to help me write a letter on behalf of 699 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: John Facenda. Jim Nance helped out with Brent Musburger. But 700 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: you know what Mel has done when you look at 701 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: the big business of mock drafts, the draft itself, I 702 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: mean three day festival well, and Mel has been front 703 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: and center. 704 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: And passionate. That's what I love. He cares. 705 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: He cares, and you know what when you bring up 706 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: a name, and sometimes we would do this just to 707 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: mess with him. We would bring up like fourth receiver 708 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: from Oregon State and you go, Dan, you know, and 709 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: then he was starting to break down, this guy, and 710 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: you realize this is all he does. We'll take a break. 711 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls? What we learned, What's in 712 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: store Tomorrow? 713 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 714 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 715 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app s FSR to 716 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: listen live. 717 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 3: Last call for phone calls, What we learn? 718 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: What's in store tomorrow? Didn't even get to last night. 719 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: Joker went for twenty three, seventeen and seventeen. He leads 720 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: the NBA in twenty nine triple doubles this season. The 721 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: next closest has thirteen. Since the start of last season, 722 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: Joker has sixty three triple doubles. The next four players 723 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: combined have fifty eight. Out of the day brought to 724 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: you by Panini America, He's in that category now, of 725 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: we expect this every single night. All right, let's see 726 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: Tony in California. Hi, Tony, what's on your mind today? 727 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 14: Hey guys, So I'm all in on this Emmy thing 728 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 14: on Team Dan Patrick Show. But I just wonder if 729 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 14: we're doing everything we can, because you know, my other 730 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 14: team's cheat LSU and Clippers can't. We can't you meet 731 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 14: someone on the tarmac or get a no show tree job. 732 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 14: Are we doing everything we can? That's what I want 733 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 14: to know. 734 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you, Tony. We'll see what we 735 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: can do. 736 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: Maybe somebody can infiltrate the Emmy Committee Nominating Committee shuffles 737 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: in Phoenix's back High shuffles. 738 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 17: Good morning, Daniel pat Patrick, And I just got to 739 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 17: say that, look Putt Eastwood, Americana Icon, Chuck Norris, Bruce Wae, 740 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 17: Walter Peyton, you guys are in that category. You don't 741 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 17: need the Emmys. Can need to come up with your 742 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 17: own awards show call it the Danetties. 743 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, shuffles the dan Eddies. All right, you can 744 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: hand out some hardware here. Yeah, sedon, we don't need it. No, 745 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: I want it, definitely want it. Lucas in Texas, Hi Luke, 746 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: welcome back. Hey David morning, Good morning. 747 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 18: You know, I know we're up close to the end, 748 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 18: but real quick, I want to follow up on the 749 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 18: discussion about MJ, especially with younger college kids. I teach 750 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 18: college freshmen and it's going to shock you, but they talk, 751 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,959 Speaker 18: they're starting to talk about MJ the way you guys 752 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 18: talk about Bob Coosey. And I have two theories why. 753 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 18: It's almost like there's this disconnect. Number One, social media. 754 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 8: MJ was the. 755 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 18: Original human highlight, but there are flashier highlights, of longer shots, 756 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 18: bigger dungs, things like that. I think that that is 757 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 18: one of the ways that people see him as a 758 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 18: little bit more outdated. And second, this is my thesis, 759 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 18: I think that Kobe is actually going to have a 760 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 18: longer term legacy because this is not a it's weird 761 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 18: to say that this is a benefit, but because he 762 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 18: died shortly after his career. He is forever sealed as 763 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 18: a pure basketball player, the mob of mentality. I think 764 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 18: that there's going to be something to the fact that 765 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 18: he was just a great player that's going to steal 766 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 18: people's mind of like that was a top five, a 767 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 18: top three player. 768 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 14: You know. 769 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 18: That's a kind of my thesis at that point. 770 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, Luke. You make some really good points there, Yes, Mark, I. 771 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 11: Also think just because Michael Jordan calls or he tries 772 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 11: to close the deal, it doesn't mean that it's a, 773 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 11: you know, foregone conclusion that they're going to sign with 774 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 11: North Carolina. Because it's got to be a money thing too. Okay, great, 775 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 11: Michael Jordan. 776 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: Called, but he can help on both of those, correct, right, 777 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: help with money. And it's Michael Jordan's saying, Hey, I'm 778 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: going to personally guarantee three million dollars for you to 779 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: come to North Carolina. 780 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 11: They'd rather have Michael Jordan's money that Michael Jordan's phone call. 781 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: Well, but you can have both. Why wouldn't you take 782 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: advantage of that? I just don't know if Mike wants 783 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: to be involved in that. 784 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 8: I don't. 785 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's still murky waters of you're going 786 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: to give somebody money and then how long are they 787 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: going to be there? Until we get that year to 788 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 2: year contract's buyouts with players and you know, we still 789 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: have some ways to go here. But I I don't 790 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 2: know if Carolina can get Mike involved. David in Chicago, Hi, David, Hey. 791 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 19: Guys, how you doing. You had Chuck down the other 792 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 19: day and he mentioned the steam Room. So I'm kind 793 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 19: of late to the party on that podcast, but I 794 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 19: love it. But I want to say I'm not late 795 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 19: to the podcast, and the podcast is great. 796 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 14: I love it. 797 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 17: Todd. 798 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 19: You lost me with that passing lane thing. I was 799 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 19: really hot. I was one of the guys it was 800 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 19: really hot about that passing lane stuff. But you got 801 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 19: me back with the podcast. I think it's great. It's like, 802 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 19: I love your honesty. It's like sitting in the bar 803 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 19: listening to you have a conversation. So don't let them 804 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 19: kick you down. That podcast is a money maker, and 805 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 19: I think you got a real chance at making some money. 806 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: No, it's not a money maker, but nobody's keeping him down. 807 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: That's why we gave him the Toodcast and it's every Thursday. 808 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 2: Dylan is the host. 809 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 4: Yes, tun No, I appreciate the compliment, and we're just 810 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 4: having a great time and just kind of keeping it loose. 811 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 3: Not too loose. 812 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: We're gonna get in trouble, but it's nice to have 813 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 4: that springboard. 814 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 13: This day in sports history, Paul nineteen eighty two, Wayne 815 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 13: Gretzky became the first NHL player to score two hundred 816 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 13: points in a season. And he wasn't done. And of 817 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 13: course this one locally. Hartford Whalers announced they're moving from 818 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 13: Connecticut following the ninety seventh season to Carolina. 819 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: Let's see on this date in nineteen seventy three, the 820 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: seventy six ers lost to the Pistons. They finished the 821 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 2: season with nine wins. They had a twenty game losing streak. 822 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 2: They finished the year on a thirteen game losing streak. 823 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: Nine wins, nine wins. Todd would you learn today? 824 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 3: Kyle? 825 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 4: And I interestingly wonders which is a better job right 826 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: now if both were available? 827 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: Kansas or UNC Seeton? Would you learn today? Breakfast? 828 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 6: Breakfast burritos help you feel better? 829 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 3: Loser? Rito's Marvin, You're. 830 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 11: Going to learn Spanish? 831 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: Oh uh, Paulie, what did you learn today? 832 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 13: It's still an open bar here, Todd, what. 833 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: Did I learn today? 834 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 4: Dareus Rutgers all time favorite player? 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