1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: The NFL Draft is just days away. Ethan Greenberg Eric 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Allen here in the Forlorn Park Studios breaking down the 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: jets sixth overall pick in the two thousand, two thousand, 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft from Philadelphia, April seven to twenty nine. 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: We got you covered throughout e e A. What a 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: great time of the year in the National Football League? 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: It is. Uh, as we sit here, most people will 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: actually know the schedule by the time they're listening uh 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: to this podcast Ethan, where we're going to discuss the 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: draft and a lot of off season happenings here in 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Florin Park. But I'm looking at all these mini helmets 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: on the floor in our studio and a map behind 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: me because we're gonna be doing some cool video with 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: the schedule where the Jets are going to play the season, 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: how many miles they will travel. Um, our man Dan 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: is working on this. So I got all these old 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: school mini helmets on the floor in front of me. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: But this is an exciting time of year, no doubt 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, when your team has talked about 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: building through the draft and now it's only days away 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: and it's right in front of you. Uh. It doesn't 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: get better than this, and last year is behind this 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: team a multitude of offseason moves, both player wise and 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: on the coaching staff. Let's not forget about how many 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: changes are were on the coaching staff as well. So 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna have the draft, and then following that it's 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Rooky Minicamp, and then in just a couple of weeks 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: beyond the field for O T A S, then Petro 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Mini camp and training camp right around the corner. I'm ready. 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's not get ahead of ourselves here, just 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: quite yet. But next week, for sure is the NFL Draft. 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, and especially for a team that, 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: like you said, Mike mccagan has stated that year in 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: and year out that his goal is to build through 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: the draft. This is where you find your foundation of youth. 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: And we've seen it before, we've seen it, will probably 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: see it again, assuming that you know all things go accordingly. 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Is that the majority of this team You've said this 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: multiple times, there are only a handful of players over 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: the age of thirty. So this is a very young 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: team that will get younger, who will get more talent 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And we're gonna dive 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: in two what the different options are that number six, 44 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: because this is a draft that has a lot of talent. 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: But first off, let's just start out with this for 46 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: those who don't know, the draft isn't just a six 47 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: month process. It is in a lot of in the 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: eye of the majority of the fans because that's when 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: when the season ends, the draft talk starts to gain 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: some steam. But for the personnel department in the football 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: operations side, this is really a year round operations. So 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: let's take a look at an all access story about 53 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a listen. Yeah, okay, let's take a 54 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: listen to see what exactly goes into this year round process. 55 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: We're in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft. The 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: New York Jets select Darren Lee for a general manager 57 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: and his scouting team. The NFL Draft is the pinnacle 58 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: of a year long evaluation process as fans get a 59 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: look at the future of the franchise. Mike mcagnet and 60 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: his staff already have their eyes set on next year's class. 61 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: When the draft ends, about three weeks later, we get 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: the information on next year's draft class, which we disseiminated 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: to our college scouts, and they literally will start the 64 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: evaluation process ten eleven months before the actual draft starts. 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: As soon as this draft is over, right away we're 66 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: on for the next draft and opening those reports and 67 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: getting those guys wrong. It's more than a year in 68 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: the making. You start tracking kids when they start making 69 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: plays as sophomores. You follow that as juniors because some 70 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: of them come out as juniors, and then the seniors do. 71 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: You have a whole book on guys for the college prospects. 72 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: The three month job interview begins in January. The top 73 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: seniors in the country are awarded the prestigious invitation to 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: the Reseas Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. As a football player, 75 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: you get a chance to come in and compete and 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: measure yourself against some of the other great players across 77 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: the country on the field, but off the field, you 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: get a chance to connect with thirty two potential employers, 79 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of times it's one of the first 80 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to get to have a chance to sit down 81 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: and be face to face with players. We get to 82 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: see them live. You also get the chance to see 83 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: players from other areas you might not have crossed up 84 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: with throughout the fall. Most of the players that are here, 85 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: of course, have been graded. They've got several grades on 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: them from an area Scout, regional Scout, college director, maybe 87 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: even a general manager. What the reesea single bowl really 88 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: provides the scouting world is the fact that now you 89 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: have all the defensive backs in one line and you 90 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: can make those comparisons one after the other. Then a 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: small school player that you saw in isolation during the fall, 92 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: here he is on the biggest of stage is being 93 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: compared to other players from bigger schools, So it really 94 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: gives them some real time comparison shopping that they can do. 95 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: All Star games are the first time we get true 96 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: interactions to see guys live besides at schools, So being 97 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: able to see them in that environment, that's the most 98 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: valuable thing. I think. We still get the opportunity to 99 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: see the players practice live, matched up in one on 100 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: one's individuals, you know, one on one drills, but then 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: we also get access to them at night or during 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: the day to interview them also and get him you 103 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: know again, do they get a feel for them as 104 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, people and characters and intangible standpoint that we 105 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: already gather. It on before in the fall. All star 106 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: games are just one piece of the evaluation puzzle. The 107 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: next stop on the road to the Draft is Indianapolis 108 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: and the NFL Scouting Combine. So if you want to 109 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: hear the second part of that all access feature, tune 110 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: in Saturday night CBS two Jet Life Road to the 111 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: Draft A. You're gonna be able to watch it. You're 112 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: gonna be able to watch it. Yeah, even CBS Saturday Night. 113 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: Outstanding job, outstanding at it by our crew. A lot 114 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: of people uh in on that because we traveled to 115 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Indianapolis at the Combine mobile album Mobile Alabama, Um, you know, 116 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: and uh we talked to Mike mcagnet, to the scouts 117 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: that were featured in there where Jason Mondalesi and Jonathan Stiegel. 118 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: Also Dan Z who's given us tours of where the 119 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: Jets do interviews both um in Indianapolis at the hotel 120 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: there where they get a chance to talk to them 121 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: extended periods time and to uh Dan has also given 122 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: us in the past, and I think it's something we're 123 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna repeat this year. Greeny is uh, he'll show us 124 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: what the Jets draft room looks like on draft weekends 125 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: from his war room. But now it's a draft room. 126 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: That's what they call it now, the draft room, not 127 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: the war room. The war room is. The war room 128 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: is out. The draft room is in the extinct name. Yes, 129 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: the extinct name. Okay, well, nonetheless, again, just a quick reminder, 130 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 1: Jet Life wrote to the Draft Saturday, CBS Channel two, 131 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: it's great content. This was you only heard part one 132 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: of a two part video, and so you don't want 133 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: the next part, little t your goes into the combine. 134 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: You definitely want to check it out. You went to Mobile, Alabama, 135 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: talked to one of the one of the greatest names 136 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I think in sports, Phil Savage. Yeah, it's it's great 137 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: last name. Nonetheless, that's not what we're here to discuss. 138 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: And from your perspective, obviously we just heard from the 139 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Scouts and the GM Mike mccagnet. But from your point 140 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: of view, what does the Senior Bowl, the Reese's Senior 141 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Bowl offer two teams that maybe, let's say, the Indianapolis 142 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Scouting Combine does not. I kind of think it is 143 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: the first time you get a chance, as the Fellas 144 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: said during that piece, it's really the first time we 145 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: get a chance to actually interview the guys, so you 146 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: get that initial conversation started and ethan, how the draft 147 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: has changed over time, and you know this so much, 148 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: is that so many early entries now, so in the 149 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: first draft, I mean, the first round will be dominated 150 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: by underclassroom. So in Mobile is actually just the seniors, 151 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: the guys who have completed their eligibility, so you get 152 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: a debt's the real first chance. The other thing that's 153 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of underrated as far as Mobile is concerned is 154 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: that NFL coaching staffs put these guys on the field 155 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: and you get a chance to see how the players 156 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: respond to the temple because NFL coaching staffs tempo was 157 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: a lot different than at the collegiate level. The other 158 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: thing that I like about Mobile personally is I can 159 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: watch a kid who played at Alabama go against uh 160 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: a kid who played at a small school in the 161 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: MAC or something like that. So instead of envisioning it, 162 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: you actually get a chance to see these guys who 163 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: have played at differ front levels go head to head 164 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: really for the first time. That's the biggest difference for me. 165 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: But is you got your seniors there where the combine 166 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: is everybody, and the other thing is at the Combine. 167 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: The medicals are so important, but you're not seeing the 168 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: guys on the field. Eight. So just for a little 169 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: little note here, a little nugget, a couple of names, 170 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: it's sick out that are on this Jets team that 171 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: we're part of last year's class, that were attended the 172 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: Reese's Senior Bowl. Jordan Jenkins, third round pick out of Georgia, 173 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson tehrn Peak, all of whom made contributions to 174 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: this team this past season. So just a little note there, 175 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: and for an observer, something that sticks out to me. 176 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: I've never been to either the Combine or the Senior Bowl, 177 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: but something that's different obviously between the two is the 178 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: Combine there're no pads. It's all shorts and T shirts, 179 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: whereas the Senior Bowl you're in pads all week. So 180 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: I think that that is a note there because you 181 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: get to see these players. You're not on the field, right, 182 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: you're on a field, You're you're inside the dome, you're right, 183 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: You're not sure, you're not going through a football individual 184 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: football drills with no contact, right. It's it's there's still 185 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: an element of football in mobile and oh, by the way, 186 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: there is a game at the end of the week. 187 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of scouts leave later in 188 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: the week, but remember a guy by the name of 189 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Jack Prescott actually played pretty well in that game, and 190 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: then eventually, eventually he was drafted by the Dallas Scotboys 191 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: and he had a good year. Uh. You know, when 192 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: you look at the Jets roster, are multiple players, um 193 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: and you've written about this before, Ethan, multiple players who 194 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: have participated in the Senior Bowl, not only last year. 195 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: But you go down the list now, the Jets past 196 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: couple of first round picks in the Mike mcagnan era 197 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: early entries. Leonard Williams coming off his first Pro Bowl 198 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: number six over all in mactagane's first draft, and then 199 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Darren Lee number twenty overall last year. I think he 200 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: had a solid rookie season. I think that he might 201 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: be poised for a breakout similar. Let's make a parallel too, 202 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and say, hey, Leonard made that jump in 203 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: year two. Can Darren ly make that jump in year two? 204 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: And here's another tease for you. Our production crew was 205 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: in Columbus last weekend at the Ohio State spring game. 206 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: Following the A four mentioned Darren Lye around, so we're 207 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: gonna have plenty of content on that as well in 208 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: the future. Two thousand fifteen Leonard Williams two thousand sixteen, 209 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: Darren Lee two thousand seventeen t B D. We'll see 210 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: who the Jets will pick in the first round with 211 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: the number six overall selection, assuming that they stay there 212 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: and e A. Let's dive into the draft end right 213 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: off the top of the thing that strikes most people 214 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: is the depth of this class, and Charles Davis said 215 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: that you spoke to Charles Davis, he said that this 216 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: could potentially be the first draft since four without a 217 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: quarterback or an offensive tackle drafted in the top ten. 218 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: So this is a kind of an interesting draft, not 219 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: only because that's an abnormality but no doubt. But I 220 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: think what also is interesting is that typically the first 221 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: handful of picks are usually predetermined in the eyes of 222 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: the pundits, and I think as early as number two. 223 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you could make the case for number one 224 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: in the Cleveland Browns between Mr Rubinsky and Miles Garrett. 225 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: But I think as earlier and realistically as number two 226 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: with the forty Niners, this draft could go a bunch 227 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: of different ways. Well, last year, you're right, it crystallized 228 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: last year. Is the Rams in position number one overall? 229 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: They targeted Jared Goff from California, took number one, and 230 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: then Philly made that big deal where they moved up 231 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: to number two and they set their sights on Carson 232 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: once and they took him and heat an oppressive rookie season. Uh. 233 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: They forementioned Golf's gonna be working with the new coaching 234 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: staff this year in l A. But you're right. As 235 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: of right now, I would say most people think of Cleveland, 236 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Brown's gonna take Myles Garrett number one overall. Is that 237 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: a sure thing? Probably not, But I mean we could 238 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: be looking at three defensive players to start. Maybe it's 239 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett and Solomon Thomas stays right there in his 240 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: backyard and plays for the forty Niners. Possibly the Chicago 241 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: who signed Mike lennon off season. Do they pulled the 242 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: trigger on a young quarterback or do they stick defense there? 243 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Maybe taking the Marsha on Lattimore and then, Uh, it's 244 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I know a lot of Jets fans 245 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: are looking at Jackson. Folden was saying, is that where 246 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: somebody takes a running at early in Leonard for net 247 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: is that is that a pressure point? But the way 248 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: the draft works is and this is something we continue 249 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: to follow each and every years. How are the quarterback 250 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Domino's going to fall? Also? Who is potentially falling to 251 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: a spot where teams are like, hey, I like that guy. 252 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't have enough ammunition to get 253 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: up to two or three, but maybe I could have 254 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: enough ammunition that I'm comfortable going to seven or eight 255 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: or something like that. And how many quarterbacks Ethan are 256 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: going in the first round. I don't know. The guy 257 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: out of Texas Tech right now I think is generating 258 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of bloods is Patrick Mahomes. We know that 259 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: the two UH signal callers that most people focused on 260 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: since the draft process began, since we started talking about 261 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: this maybe late in the winter, Mitchell Robinski after he 262 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: declared out of North Carolina and Deshaun Watson, a guy 263 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: who was tremendous in his career Clemson and his coach 264 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney said, you'll be missing out on Michael Jordan 265 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: if you don't draft him. So it's gonna be fascinating 266 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: to see Watson Tropiski Mahomes does Kaiser slip who knows well. 267 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why the draft is so exciting 268 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: every year is just because it is truly unpredictable. There's 269 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: always a pick that no one thinks is gonna The 270 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: one that sticks out in my mind from years ago 271 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: is Tyson Alawalu to the Jacksonville Jaguars in the top five, 272 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: and from you know, from then till now, there's always 273 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: a pick that maybe you're not expecting at that spot, 274 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. I think that that's 275 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: what makes the draft so thrilling, so exciting, because you 276 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: truly just don't know. The other thing is you're talking 277 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: about is that that there are names that are pop 278 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: up off the screen. You even go back to the 279 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: Jets a few years back, John Zick was the general 280 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: manager and they had two first round picks. They took 281 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson number thirteen. Overall, wasn't I went to Combine 282 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: that year, and I think NFL personnel guys knew a 283 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: lot about Sheldon Richardson, how much of a talent he was, 284 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: and he had a freak build load of the ground. 285 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: It's so explosive and then yes, he was stout against 286 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: the run, but he could get up the field and 287 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: pressure of the quarterback. But I don't think a lot 288 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: of folks in the media knew too much about Sheldon Richardson, 289 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: and the Jets took him and he came out of 290 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: the gate race, and I think, um tremendous rookie season, 291 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: uh for Sheldon Richardson. So you're right, is that there 292 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of names that will pop up, and 293 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: it could happen earlier around one where people are like, oh, 294 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: and it'll be some uh stunned observers. The other point 295 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: with the draft that I'd like to make here is 296 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: that for years people talked about, you don't take a 297 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: running back early, you don't take a linebacker early. Is 298 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: that going to be the case this year because there 299 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: are three guys at that running back position, the Leonard 300 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: for Net, Dalvin Cook, and Christian McCaffrey, who I think 301 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: potentially Ethan could be all the top first round players 302 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: as far as top six team picks all three of 303 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: them off the board by that point. Also, the linebacker position, 304 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: for years we talked about, oh, you don't take a 305 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: linebacker early, an inside linebacker early. A lot of people 306 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: are really high and Ruben Foster, because Ruben Foster going in, 307 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: and that might include yourself. I mean you, Reuben Foster 308 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite players in the draft. And 309 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I think Matt Miller from Bleacher Reports said it best 310 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: when you spoke to him said, he's a heat seeking missile. 311 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: When the ball is in is in the hands of 312 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: whoever it may be. So I think Ruben Foster, it'll 313 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: be interesting to see where he goes because there not 314 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: a lot of mock drafts, but there's some that have 315 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: him going as high as number two to San Francisco 316 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: forty Niners and being the staple on that defense for 317 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: John Lynch, who was newly appointed general. The guys are 318 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: a great player. My thing is he he appears to 319 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: be a player who would be a mic linebacker, so 320 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: he would be he's got to be the mind and 321 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: the quarterback your defense. And what happened with him and Andy, 322 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the specifics. We just know he was 323 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: sent home early. And I know all teams do their 324 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: due diligence, um. But Nick Saban said, you know, he 325 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: spoke very highly of h Foster, of course, and another 326 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Alabama guy who some people say, is the cleanest prospect 327 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: in the whole draft is Jonathan Ellen. Where's Jonathan Ellen going? 328 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: Another interior player. When Jets fans look at the interior, 329 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: they say, hey, we're set there. We're set there obviously 330 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: right now in your roster, you got Mohammed Wokerson, you 331 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: got Leonard Williams, who continues to get better and he's 332 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: such a young athlete. You have Steve Mcleanen is playing 333 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: on an interior and I'm not forgetting Sheldon. Of course, 334 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: Sheldon richardson a town. The guy Dean Simon got valuable reps. 335 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: So I think you have a lot of talent and 336 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: depth there on the inside. Um, I can't. You never 337 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: say never because a few years back nobody expected Leonard 338 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: Williams to be a Jet. But we'll see what happened. 339 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: And it all goes back to the core of why 340 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: the draft is so thrilling, in that you truly just 341 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: don't know. So it'll be it'll be great to see. 342 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: It's always great to see. And this year's class is 343 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: so talented. How about the tight end position too, It's unbelievable. 344 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: There are there are so many tight ends that could 345 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: go within the first two days in in comparison to 346 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: years past, including O. J. Howard has been projected as 347 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: high as there you go, so the senior ball, and 348 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: he impressed a lot of folks as the senior ball, 349 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: he impressed a lot of folks throughout. No I know, 350 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: but just to him going there, because some guys, if 351 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: they know, their draft stock is pretty well set because 352 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot proved skip. Yeah. Yeah, he 353 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: came up, went through the interviews, play well on field 354 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: things like that. Other folks will say, hey, what about 355 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: his production. I come back and say, well, what offense 356 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: was Alabama runny? They're they're run heavy offense. Um. I 357 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: think he could be very productive in the National Football League. 358 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: And when you're looking at the Jets now at the 359 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver positions, lash tight hand, I think he could 360 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: be a great help to this team if they wanted 361 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: that direction. I'm totally on board with you for a 362 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. For a couple of reasons, one tremendous talent, 363 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: simply put two. O J. Howard shined brightest when the 364 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: lights were also the brightest in the back to back 365 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: national championship games, So that I think that says tells 366 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: a lot of his story as well is when the 367 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: team needed an offensive spark, he was there to fulfill that. 368 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned Phil Savage, executive director of the Senior Bowl, 369 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: one of the guys I talked to him about, of course, 370 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: because Phil Savage wears many heads. Some one of the 371 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: jobs he also has. He's a color commentator on Alabama 372 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: football every Saturday. I asked him about O. J. Howard. 373 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: He just talked about how great this guy's ceiling us. 374 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: He's really a unique talent. So another point that you 375 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: brought up is and a team that had that currently 376 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: has two very young quarterbacks on the roster. If you 377 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: draft a tight end, let's say as early as number six, 378 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: and you draft O. J. Howard and the Jets pull 379 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: that trigger. The tight end in the football world has 380 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: been referred to as the security blanket of all quarterbacks, 381 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: and especially for two young guys in Christian Hackenberg and 382 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Bryce Patty, even Josh mccount. You know that this because 383 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: you're you're a veteran doesn't mean that the Titan is 384 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: not a security blanket. To have that kind of player, 385 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: two way player meaning in line and pass catching, could 386 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: be a tremendous help for this offense that really hasn't 387 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: utilized the tight end in a couple of years. Oh yeah, 388 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: but there's a different offense as you know. I mean, 389 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Jane Gaily and Todd Bowls was clear about this, and 390 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: this is something I completely agree with, is that in 391 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: years past, the Jets had them running backs and they 392 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: had the receivers, So how many balls are there to 393 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: go around? What Jane Gailey asked these guys to do 394 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: primarily were to be inside uh um, inline blockers. Excuse 395 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: me now. Even bringing a new coordinator in John Morton, 396 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: who's gonna be running a new system. The clear thing 397 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: about Morton that both the Bulls and Mike mcagnan have 398 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: talked about is that he is going to run a 399 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: system that matches the Jets personnel. So that's why the 400 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Jets aren't putting a term on this and not calling 401 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: this West Coast or anything like that. We're gonna say, well, 402 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: what do we have here? We know Eric Decker coming 403 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: off a pair of surgeries. We'll probably get an update 404 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: on his rehab here in the coming weeks. Todd Bowls 405 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: will be available to the media. Uh during draft week. 406 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: Mike mcagnet's having his pre draft UH news conference UH 407 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: next week, so he'll probably be asked about Decker. But 408 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: Quincy noa career highs and receptions, receiving yards, touchdowns last year, 409 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: continue to develop. He loved what you saw out of him. 410 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: The offense looked a lot different one who he's getting 411 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: a football Robbie Anderson. We know forty two catches last year. 412 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: You mentioned peak before. He's a guy who flashed at times. 413 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: Also give you some a little pop on special teams. 414 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: The Jets drafted Quentin Pitt, pat not drafted. They signed 415 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: Quentin Patton and free agency a guy who would career 416 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: highs last year with the forty niners in terms of 417 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: receptions and receiving yards. Jay Laen Marshall will start the 418 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: year out with suspension UM, but he's available all during 419 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: the off season to go through although t A s 420 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: and practices and mini camps and then training camp. But 421 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be suspended to start the year. And then 422 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: the tight end position like you mentioned, and there's a 423 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: couple of guys returning UM, but the deep class and 424 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: Mike mcthagan has talked about adding a pass catching tight 425 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: end to this offense. So you caught off with Adam 426 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: Shafter at the league owners meetings in Phoenix, Arizona, and 427 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: Shafter a guy most commonly known as the NFL inside 428 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: or the guy that breaks the news before anybody else. 429 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: You caught up with him and you got his thoughts 430 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: in the draft. Let's take a listen. This is the 431 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of draft where it's deep, with so many positions 432 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: where they have to come away with some players. This 433 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: is a draft that I think is universally lauded for 434 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: the depth, for the quality of players. I think that 435 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: that depth isn't necessarily a certain spots where the Jets 436 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: give use some help. But there's a lot of depth 437 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: at running back. Jets could use a player there. There's 438 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: a lot of depth at cornerback, a lot of tight ends. 439 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: We know the Jets could use one of those in 440 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: the worst way. They've been looking for a tight end 441 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: for an awful long time. Quarterback light but I will 442 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: not be surprised if the Jets go for a quarterback 443 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: in the first few rounds of the draft somewhere. So 444 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter makes a couple of points there, and something 445 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: that I want to harp on is the depth. And 446 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: next week before the draft we'll be back in the 447 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: in the podcast studio and we're gonna talk about the 448 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: possibility of trading back from number six and explore those options. 449 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: But simply put, this draft is loaded at tight end, 450 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, it's loaded at the corner back position, 451 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: the defensive back position, corner and safety and so outside Russia, 452 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: it's good uh guys who can come off the edge 453 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: maybe and then three four three rushers as well wide receiver. 454 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty good class and uh 455 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: you mentioned it before. Offensive line. It seems like the 456 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: interior guys uh are getting a little bit more play 457 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: as we approached the draft. Then the tackles in this class, 458 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: and some of the tackles that are that have played 459 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: on the outside for their respective universities will then are 460 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: projected to then move to the inside in the NFL. 461 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 1: So it's we'll see, obviously, we'll see how that all 462 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: plays out in the coming months when you know, these 463 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: players get drafted and report for training camp and whatnot 464 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: and see what what coaching staff wants to do with who. 465 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: But let's have something that I wanted to touch on, 466 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: is at number six, assuming the Jets stay, there is 467 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: a lot of mock drafts have Marshawn Lattimore out of 468 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Malie Hooker out of Ohio State, and Jamal 469 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Adams out of Louisiana State. And those three guys are 470 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: i would say, close to universally pronounced as the top 471 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: three defensive back prospects coming out of this draft. And 472 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: Alattimore has gone as high as number two in mock 473 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: drafts and same with Hooker and Adams. So what do 474 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: you think? Not? Not really? You know, you can share 475 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the players about the landscape of the 476 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Jet secondary and adding a potential player and an impact 477 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: player like Hooker, Adams or Latimore. Here's what I like 478 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: what Mike mckagnen did during the off season. I like 479 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: deciding to Clayborne. Okay, he struggled with injuries, we all 480 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: know that, but you're paring him up with a great 481 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: medical team headed by John Melody and whole Get also 482 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: incorporated into Justice Justice Galic Strength Um program here in 483 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: the off season, and maybe this is the second chance 484 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: for him. Jason Garrett said at the NFL Owners meetings 485 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: that hey, listen, this guy was playing his best ball 486 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: of his career last year. So you add him to 487 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: the mix and the outside. Justin Burr's fourth round pick 488 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: out of UNC State. He got some time late and 489 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: last late last season. You liked what you saw out 490 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: of him. He's a big, physical kid, can play man 491 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: press on the outside. Is he ready to take that 492 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: next step and possibly start on the outside. Oh, by 493 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: the way, don't forget about Buster Screen. I think a 494 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: lot of people always forget about him. I still think 495 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: Buster is a very solid player. Love his versatility because 496 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: he can play inside and outside. Darryl Roberts another young 497 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: guy the Jets claimed off waivers last year from the 498 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. He played pretty wild times and then 499 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams just resigned, UH signing his attender, so he'll 500 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: be back nine interceptions in thirty four games. He's a 501 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of guy who's uh found a ball throughout his career. 502 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: With all that being said, if you love Marshawn Lattimer, 503 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: if you love him, to take him, just like if 504 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: you a lot of anybody there and he's fallen to 505 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: you in the first round, you make that move. This 506 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: is a deep cornerback class. We were talking about it 507 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: before we came on the air today. Is that It's 508 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: not just Marshawn Lattimore. It's the Quincy Wilson's of the world. 509 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: It is there's so many of the tea table wars 510 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: of the world. Jordan Lewis, Kevin Kevin King, Kevin King 511 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: from Washington too. I mean, so you go list goes 512 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: on and on and not so at what you have 513 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: to determine as a personnel staff is is there a 514 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: big gap between all these guys or are they close? 515 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Can I land somebody who I have a similar grade 516 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: on later where there might be a bigger discrepancy in 517 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: another position. I think at six you do have to 518 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: stick to that philosophy of the best player available, but 519 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: you're hoping it marries a need at the safety position. 520 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: You asked me about the defensive backfield. Um. Uh, First, 521 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Marcus Gilcrist coming off offseason surgery. He's always been a 522 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: guy or well respected around here because he really knows 523 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: the defense. And uh, he's a heavy ball player. Kelvin Prior, 524 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: I think, by his own admission, up and down. Um, 525 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: but you do have some depth in safety position. Rod 526 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: tub some Miles, the Tasmanian Devil, a guy who contributes 527 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: on special teams, gives you everything he has when he 528 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: plays in the defensive backfield. And then uh, you know 529 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: you got that interesting young player and Doug Middleton as well. 530 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, but there it goes back to that 531 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: old argument too, is that, oh, did you take a 532 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: safety that early? Well, if you love him, he knew 533 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: it takes safety that early. Jamal Adams, he seems like 534 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: guys is loading with intangibles, big time leader, plays fast, 535 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: all over the field, come up and smack you in 536 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: the box. But he also has coverage skills. A lot 537 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: of people love Jamal Adams. Hooker a little bit different. 538 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: Maybe not a guy's gonna play close to the line 539 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: as much, but maybe you don't want them to play 540 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: close to the line as much because he's rangey and 541 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: he's a playmaker. Now, he played with two NFL corners 542 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: in Ohio state that you just mentioned and Conley and 543 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: uh Lattimore. But unbelievable and yes last year and there 544 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: you go, so an unbelievable uh talent there. So I mean, 545 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: all those guys, they look like they're gonna be top 546 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: ten picks. And there's a good chance I would say 547 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: that at least one of them, maybe two will be 548 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: on the board when you're sitting there at six. So 549 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: here's a here's something to chew on. Last year went 550 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: Ohio State had five first round draft picks. You could 551 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: be looking at three Buckeys to go in the top 552 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: fifteen and Lattimore, Hooker and Calmly. So clearly Ohio State 553 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: is a well of talent that's now being transformed into 554 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, slowly integrating their way throughout the National Football League. 555 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: And before we take off here, I just want to 556 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: rehash something that you talked about Adams and Hooker. If 557 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: a little fun fact about Adams, his father, George Adams, 558 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: a former first round pick of the New York Football 559 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: Giants back in the day. Jamal currently has a bet 560 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: with his father that he will be a higher draft 561 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: pick than his dad was, and that that draft or 562 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: excuse me, that bet was made when Jamal was a child. 563 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: So Jamal Adams clearly has a lot of confidence in itself. 564 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: But you mentioned it because that his intangibles are off 565 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: the chart, and I think that's what a lot of 566 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: pundits will say. His biggest attribute off the field is 567 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: that he's the alpha dog and he's gonna he's gonna 568 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: work his tail off on and off the field. At 569 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: the combine ran a four five as Pro day, right, 570 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: a four three, So clearly the speed is not an 571 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: issue there. That was his time and the Pro day 572 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: it was a four three. He's clocked anywhere between a 573 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: four three three and a four eight and that's a okay. Well, 574 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: like a four four, I'll say four four, So he's 575 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: four four not four three. Well, it depends when you 576 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: speak to and who had somebody had him for three 577 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: in the clock? Correct? Correct, take it to the bank. 578 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: We go on Twitter later, Remember they got the video, 579 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: Remember though, listen just looking at it, Mike mccagnan, we 580 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: got to repeat this said, he's open for business. He 581 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna be working phones next week and a lot of 582 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: people are gonna be calling him. So I would imagine 583 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Mac will call everybody in front of him, doing his 584 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: due diligence, and then they'll talk to the teams behind them, 585 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: and again as some of the teams targeted players that 586 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: potentially could be there for them and what will they 587 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: be willing to give up to get to the Jets 588 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: position at number six. Then he moved down stockpile picks, 589 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: a lot of depth in this draft. And that is 590 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: the perfect teaser for next week's podcast leading up to 591 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: the draft, because next week we talked about the six pick. Today, again, 592 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: the Jets have a lot of options tight end, running back, 593 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: defensive back, this quarter quarterback. This draft is loaded. We 594 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: didn't even touch on the quarterbacks. You're right, and the 595 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in Arizona that it's not on the rown possibility 596 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: we take a quarterback six. He's our opening day starter. 597 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: This quarterback class is truly intriguing because you have guys 598 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson with the pedigree, and like Mitch Drubisky 599 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: who only s thirteen games, but those were pretty darn good. 600 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: So again, and these guys range anywhere from top ten 601 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: to seven to the Houston Texans, assuming people stay in 602 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: their respective draft orders. But again, you just don't know. 603 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: And we talked about so potentially moving back. We were 604 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: talking about O. J. Howard before, so potentially moving back 605 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: names that could. Don't don't give it, don't give it away. No, no, 606 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: we'll give it to discuss it. We're gonna discuss it 607 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: in depth next week. But you know, the Joku tight 608 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: in from Miami. Where is your kid, Jets? Where is 609 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: he on the board. Uh, Evan Ingram tight and then 610 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: we mentioned the defensive backfield Dorry Jackson from USC and 611 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: then uh Jadobe, don't I watched the video Colorado? How 612 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: do we pronounce? Okay? You know, so a lot of 613 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot of depth there and simply put, tremendous talent. 614 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: And we'll take a look next week in depth on 615 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: exploring trading back and stockpiling picks, because like you said 616 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: the cat and said, hey, call us up, we're open 617 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: for business. And this draft, if there's a draft to 618 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: call back or to trade back, excuse me, this is 619 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: the draft to do it because of the tremendous talent. 620 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: So we're gonna wait those options next week on the 621 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: pros and cons of trading back in at what number 622 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: you would feel comfortable trading back to and still get 623 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: a star started, impact player. So again that's next week. 624 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: But this week just to rehash Jets pick number six, 625 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: assuming that all things stay put. April seven, Philadelphia, we 626 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: haven't even talking about the wide receiver position. Man, Yeah, 627 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: well we'll get there. No, no, no, but remember and fans, 628 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: because Ethan and I are this is something we've been 629 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: working on this week, is that schedule release obviously by 630 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: the time you all are here, and that's maybe the 631 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: schedules out, but we have a ton of content about 632 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: the Jets two thousand seventeen UH schedule. We knew the opponents, 633 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: but now you know, and you can put your travel 634 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: dates UH to get other and things like that. For 635 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: people are gonna be following the following us this year, 636 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: all our platforms take a look at that and then 637 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: early next week Mike mcagnan will dress the medium. We'll 638 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: cover that in full as well. And that's and that's 639 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: how you have it. And for you don't don't forget 640 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: Jet Life Road to the Draft this Saturday, eleven thirty 641 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: five CBS two. You don't want to miss it. Behind 642 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: the scenes access of the draft process that is really 643 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: three hundred sixty five days a year or pretty close 644 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: to it. That culminates in what is the NFL Draft 645 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: again April seven, First round on Thursday, second and third 646 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: rounds on Friday, Round four through seven on Saturday. And 647 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: if you haven't checked that out online New York dot 648 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: dot com we break down every single position. So yeah, 649 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: we gotta get into that next week greeting because there's 650 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: a lot of cool things going on with the draft 651 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: as far as, uh, it being in Philadelphia and who 652 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: are now scene picks for the Jets. We should talk 653 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: about that night and you'll have the full draft coverage 654 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: we are. We are sending you to Philadelphia on Thursday night, 655 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: and I would actually be at my Life Stadium. Uh, 656 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: We're having our annual Jets Draft party there, so I'll 657 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: be at my Life Stadium and I hope you see 658 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: money fans out there on Thursday night. You don't want 659 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: to miss it. Bere