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Speaker 1: fm to get started. What's up metstup listeners back here

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Speaker 1: for episode number seventy three of the met Stuff podcast,

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Speaker 1: the long awaited Once Upon a Time I'm in Queen's episode.

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting to do this all off season. We've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for a rainy day. We've given you numerous

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Speaker 1: rain checks and pushed it back, and pushed it back

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Speaker 1: and pushed it back. But we have finally hit a

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Speaker 1: point of we have nothing else to talk about with

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Speaker 1: the Mets. Everything has been talked about, everything has been exhausted.

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Speaker 1: We have a slight labor update, and I mean slight

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Speaker 1: in that it's one sentence and then we'll probably be

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Speaker 1: done talking about it. We have a slight update on

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Speaker 1: the Mets free agent market, which is that something we

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Speaker 1: Is get as well, And maybe a couple other minor

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Speaker 1: be the once upon a Time in Queen's episode. So

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Speaker 1: if you guys have not yet watched it, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and watch it, or you can just listen to what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about here and get a quick like cliffhanger, cliffhanger,

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Speaker 1: spark notes, cliff what's it called cliff notes? Cliff notes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I combine them together. There we go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to spoiler, the Mets win the World.

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Speaker 1: Series shocker, who saw that coming? The Mets of the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six World Series Champions. If you're waiting these

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Speaker 1: almost forty years, you now know what happened in that

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Speaker 1: world series. But yeah, that's what we're doing this episode.

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing a mailbag episode on the next one

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Speaker 1: to answer your guys questions as well as a little

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Speaker 1: update on the YouTube side here. This is probably gonna

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Speaker 1: But it's the off season. We gotta try something out,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully you guys enjoy that. And now we bring

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Speaker 1: in James. Mister Jeter had no range.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm doing pretty good and just to

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Speaker 2: give every one a sense out there of the Mets

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Speaker 2: content freeze right now. Today Joel Sherman wrote a long

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Speaker 2: article with the Post about Buck show Walter and Billy

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Speaker 2: That's what the article's about.

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Speaker 1: It's horrible. We're so dead. Baseball is so dead right now,

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Speaker 1: The players are conceding more and we I saw Joel

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Speaker 2: Then you get the nervous about baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's kind of how every sports labor negotiation

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Speaker 1: It's too hard to tell, and honestly, it's just nothing

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Speaker 1: It's just John Hayman basically saying that the Mets are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mets are nowhere done from spending. It seems like

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Speaker 1: It was really really good, just from you know, a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, we as Mets fans know about

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Speaker 1: You know it was really good, did Jimmy Kimmel produced it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably a big reason why it also got four parts.

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel unnecessary to be this long either, like

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Speaker 1: Like the stuff that the Mets were doing was wild,

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Speaker 2: Definitely in the first episode. Again, just to start there

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Speaker 2: me if you want to be here or not. I'll

438
00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,440
Speaker 2: give you an extension or I'll trade you. And his

439
00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,600
Speaker 2: dad convince him to stick around and become a leader,

440
00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,480
Speaker 2: be a man, and like kind of lead this young

441
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,840
Speaker 2: team to where they had to go. And he did

442
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,680
Speaker 2: become very clearly the leader and the mentor in this team.

443
00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,040
Speaker 2: It seemed like you really just changed the entire complexion

444
00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,680
Speaker 2: of what this team was and could be.

445
00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 1: Watching this documentary gave me a greater appreciation for the

446
00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 1: player that Keith Hernandez was with the Mets. We've always

447
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,280
Speaker 1: heard how good he was, and like you can look

448
00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,119
Speaker 1: at his numbers and comparatively to today's standards, they don't, like,

449
00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,879
Speaker 1: you know, make you go like wow, what a beast.

450
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,159
Speaker 1: But you see the impact that he one did have

451
00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,080
Speaker 1: on the field, like he was a really really good

452
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280
Speaker 1: player obviously, but two, like he was the leader of

453
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,040
Speaker 1: that team. It was Keith Hernandez his team, no.

454
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,280
Speaker 2: Doubt, definitely, And again it's very clear watching this the

455
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,280
Speaker 2: impact he has, because I just don't think that our

456
00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,520
Speaker 2: generation who will look at someone's baseball reference page and

457
00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,000
Speaker 2: kind of derives impact that that way, we won't really

458
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,119
Speaker 2: understand what someone who was like a real quarterback like

459
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,280
Speaker 2: Keith Hernandez could do for a baseball team, especially a

460
00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,720
Speaker 2: baseball team that was this young and one of the

461
00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,199
Speaker 2: young guys who Keith thought had a checker relationship with

462
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 2: Daryl Strawberry. Also, they showed his rise during this episode.

463
00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 2: The fact that they called him up in May when

464
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,719
Speaker 2: he was twenty years old on an awful team reminded

465
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,720
Speaker 2: me so much of so many current Mets things that

466
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,800
Speaker 2: they've done, like how they rushed the promotion of I

467
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 2: med Rosario, how they brought up Wheeler and Harvey on

468
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,720
Speaker 2: those awful Mets teams in the early twenty tens, Like

469
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,680
Speaker 2: it's funny how this thing just keep rolling, always exactly

470
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,680
Speaker 2: the same, rolling rolling.

471
00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,440
Speaker 1: It was simply to get seats into this or butt

472
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 1: into seats. There was like Darryl Straubberry or young Feenom,

473
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,000
Speaker 1: he's up, he's ready to play. He was so not

474
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:29,960
Speaker 1: ready at that time.

475
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 2: He wasn't. But he also he took a month and

476
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 2: a half and then he was incredible. He ended up

477
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,160
Speaker 2: winning the Rooie of the Year in a three after

478
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,240
Speaker 2: a blazing hot summer. And all this coincided with New

479
00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 2: York City becoming cool. Wall Street popped off, the music

480
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,080
Speaker 2: scene was growing, a lot of artists in the city,

481
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,920
Speaker 2: yuppies were suddenly returning to New York City, young professionals,

482
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,160
Speaker 2: and all these guys all started getting wild. Daryl was partying,

483
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 2: Doc was partying. Keith was this hip, good looking single guy,

484
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,440
Speaker 2: former MVP World Series champion with the mustache. Yeah, going

485
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 2: out partying hard. And they mentioned how in nineteen eighty

486
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 2: four Strawberry was just getting too fucked up and missing games,

487
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 2: said he missed all his day games after the night game.

488
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 2: So they acted like a jerk, and then Keith mentioned

489
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,199
Speaker 2: to the press that he was unable to handle the

490
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 2: partying and it was making an impact on the team,

491
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 2: which I thought was pretty interesting way to handle that.

492
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 1: Like we talk about, you know, like the Lindor McNeil conflict, right,

493
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 1: so much like these guys were legitimately brawling and yelling

494
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 1: at each other and calling each other out, and it

495
00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 1: somehow made that team stronger almost, it almost made the

496
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,360
Speaker 1: bond better. Like, guys, we're all here for one thing.

497
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: Like we can go do have our fun and do this,

498
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,400
Speaker 1: but you gotta come to your job every day ready

499
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,159
Speaker 1: to perform, and like you gotta really appreciate it. Like

500
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 1: the Mets, as much of like fuck up some crazy

501
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 1: psycho as they were, they did get the job done.

502
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 1: They still did come to work every day after things

503
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: got you know, cleaned up a little bit and did

504
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 1: their stuff.

505
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 2: That was the whole mantra of The next scle that

506
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 2: got brought into the fault was David Johnson, who the

507
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 2: Mets higher before in nineteen eighty four, who is just

508
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 2: one of the craziest motherfuckers I've ever heard on camera.

509
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 2: That guy is literally nuts, Like holy crap. He said

510
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 2: you could do whatever you want, just have to play.

511
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 1: I love him though. He also I thought it was

512
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: really cool that for that time, he was one of

513
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 1: the few guys who was like using a computer in analytics.

514
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 1: Analytics at the time, it isn't what it is today, obviously,

515
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: but he was one of the few guys that was

516
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. I was like, no, we need

517
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 1: to look into the numbers more to figure out how

518
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 1: to get the best players and get the best team.

519
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 2: Definitely, he was a math major in college. They referenced that,

520
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: and I was kind of shocked by that, but it

521
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: was really cool. And he also like stuck his foot

522
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: in the ground saying that the nineteen year old doc

523
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: good and had to be on that team in nineteen

524
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 2: eighty four. That was the right call. I also had

525
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: no idea that he made the last out of the

526
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine World Series against the Mets.

527
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 1: I had no idea about that either.

528
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: I was like, that's crazy, that's incredible. And the fact

529
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: that he said he channeled that emotion because the Orioles

530
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 2: lost as the best team by far in sixty nine,

531
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 2: then came back in one to seventy and dominating fashion

532
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 2: and he channeled that between eighty five and eighty six

533
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: when the Mets were really good in eighty five, couldn't

534
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 2: get over the hump, and then finally broke through in

535
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 2: eighty six. It's really really interesting side note there. And

536
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: then they also pulled round Darling for le Mazzilli before

537
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: the eighty four season. They also drafted Lenny Dykster, who

538
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 2: the story of his his tryout everything about Lenny Dykster

539
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: in this and he was the star of the show.

540
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just crazy that Lenny Dykscher basically

541
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: was found by the Mets because of an open tryout.

542
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: They were like, all the best prospects, all the best

543
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: athletes in baseball come to this, you know, one area

544
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: to try out for the New York Mets, right, and

545
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: Lenny Dykstra was not invited. Don't believe he just showed up, Right.

546
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: He was just a guy who was like, I'm gonna

547
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 1: be here, and when they like asked him, he was like,

548
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm fucking Lenny fucking Dykstra, Like I'm good. He had

549
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: such an arrogance to him that you obviously saw throughout

550
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: his playing days. But it's not like it just came

551
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: on at one point he was always a nut job.

552
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: He said, H'm the best fucking player here, as he

553
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: says it through his whatever fucking drugs he was on

554
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: during this interview, you just looked in coher and he

555
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: sounded in coherent, But at the same time, he remembered

556
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: every single thing from this collection of years perfectly.

557
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: Clear as a crystal. He was so locked in during

558
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: those times. And it's crazy too, because like he was

559
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: really good Lenny Dyksche, and I feel like if you

560
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: forget about that because of all the crazy drug and

561
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he lives on a different planet now,

562
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: but he was so good in a huge part of

563
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: these teams.

564
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: Huge Also, we mentioned the Doc season nineteen eighty four

565
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: as the Rookie of the Year Young All Star Ever,

566
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: he struck out the side in the All Star Game

567
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: that year, which really reminded me of that All Star

568
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Game when de Gram stepped on the scene struck out

569
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 2: the side, and at the time, I don't even know if

570
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: this record is still standing or up. It's the most

571
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: strikeouts for rookie pitcher ever.

572
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: And that's a time too when people didn't strike out

573
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: like they do nowadays, Like there's so many more strikeouts

574
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 1: in the game of baseball. Obviously they pitched longer back.

575
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: That they also threw more innings. I'm pretty sure because

576
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: I was looking at this before. I know, his eighty

577
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 2: five season when he was like the best, best pitched

578
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: season ever, he threw two hundred and seventy five innings.

579
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Speaker 2: I think in his rookie year he threw at least

580
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: two fifteen, So it's still plenty of strikeouts there. But yeah, again,

581
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: the doc good than dominant is something that I knew,

582
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: but I didn't really know, and I think to see

583
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: the magnitude that he had on this team and on

584
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball as a whole during this episode. This

585
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,239
Speaker 2: first episode was pretty telling, especially because in that All

586
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: Star Game, his catcher in the National League was Gary Carter,

587
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: and these two formed one of the funniest relationships I've

588
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: ever seen. After learning about who Gary Carter was as

589
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: a guy, between this like real, real, happy, go lucky,

590
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: kind of try hard Christian guy and Dot Good in

591
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: this twenty year old cocaine user from.

592
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 1: He couldn't have been more different, but he was obviously

593
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: a huge part they traded for him in eighty after

594
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: eighty four, right, it was.

595
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: It was after eighty four and I didn't realize that

596
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 2: he had this attitude around the game where he was

597
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 2: like kind of a square and like that annoying tryhard

598
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: who like everyone hates when you play baseball, and Keith

599
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: it came out very obviously. He despised him as a person.

600
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: He was like he because he was everything that they

601
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: weren't right Like Gary Carter was like the buttoned up guy.

602
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: He loved being on TV, being in front of the camera,

603
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: looking the part. He wanted to play like the game,

604
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: like the right way. He was very much like the

605
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: the absolutely what's the word I'm looking for?

606
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: Straight edge.

607
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: Yes, he was an absolute straight edge and that was

608
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: not what the Mets were, but it also is kind

609
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: of what the Mets needed a little bit, was a

610
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: guy who was just even keel, steady and could be

611
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: there every day and be reliant for you because like

612
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: Gary Carter also damn good player, Hall of Famer, Like,

613
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't just that they brought in this this even

614
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: keel guy, but he also was one of the best

615
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: catchers of all time, top three in.

616
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: The MVP multiple times, ten straight loll Star appearances. They

617
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: said he was the best catch year in baseball, and

618
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: Keith was the best first basement in baseball and that

619
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: was a big part of this team. Also, the fact

620
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: they called him Camera Carter because he loved doing interviews

621
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: and doing commercials once he got to New York was

622
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: really funny and he had that classic smile, like like

623
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: goofy top t smile he was.

624
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: He was just like the classic like he was. He

625
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: was a ham for the camera as they say.

626
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then again that Doc season eighty five, once

627
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: Carter was his every day catcher. He went twenty four

628
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: and seven with a one to five to three ERA,

629
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Speaker 2: a two to one six FIP, two hundred and seventy

630
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: six and two thirds endings pitched, and two hundred and

631
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: sixty eight strikeouts. It's probably the best season ever pitched.

632
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: And now, like that eighty five season, they were cool,

633
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: they were good, The fan base was fun. Everyone was

634
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: having a good ass time. But they just couldn't get

635
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: over that Cardinals team, who was still like one of

636
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: the stalwarts. Didn't need to sweep them again to the playoffs.

637
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: They lost the last game. They were pissed, but they

638
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: still came back at home, got standing ovation. They won

639
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: ninety eight games and had to go home. But that

640
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: really set the stage for how sick this team was

641
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: going to be in eighty six and CHUCKSZ opened up

642
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: episode two with a hysterical quote, not a stertic quote,

643
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: nice quote, saying that this Mets run was like a

644
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: trilogy that was buildings in nineteen eighty six, like a

645
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: good movie series. Like eighty four, things came together. Eighty

646
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: five he got close and barely lost. Now eighty six,

647
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: now you have to win, you have no choice.

648
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: You know, they improved every year moving forward, and of course,

649
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: as we know, eighty six was the magical season. But uh, fans,

650
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: the city just getting a little crazy. Before eighty six,

651
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: there were some nuts stuff going on.

652
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is when New York became hot again. This

653
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: is when all the bad stuff of the seventies faded away.

654
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: All the jubilants and exuberance of the nineteen eighties came

655
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: full fledge. New York City had the best clubs in

656
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: the world. People were partying all night every night. The

657
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: East Village, the Lower East Side, Uptown, Midtown. The place

658
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: was just insane. This was when Saturday Night Live got

659
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: really popular. We've heard about those people partying the New

660
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: York music scene was very insane with punk rock, Madonna,

661
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: disco like, there was insane stuff, and these Mets were

662
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: treated like royalty. Like Keith Hernandez was a borderline a

663
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: lister going to these clubs doing whatever the hell he wanted.

664
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: This entire team was going ap partying together, doing just

665
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: the most insane shit in the world.

666
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: You know, they were having fun, They were having a

667
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: really really good They were like rock stars. They were

668
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: bigger than life. It was actually I couldn't believe how

669
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: popular they were for baseball players because we just kind

670
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: of don't see that now.

671
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this was the time when baseball was still

672
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: the number one sport in America, and the Mets of

673
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: this time seemed to be the most popular team in

674
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: the whole world because the Yankees had taken a massive downturn,

675
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: which was a big thing that led to the Mets

676
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: increased popularity. And these guys were the shit. They were cool,

677
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: they were good looking, you know, like Doc and Dar

678
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: always two young black guys. This is when like black

679
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: people started becoming popular in pop culture. Keith a suave MVP.

680
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 2: All these dudes were young and they were hip, like

681
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: this was this shit. I'm also hysterical. They mentioned they

682
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: were partying at the China Club, like that was Rick

683
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: James's club of choice, Yeah, Prince's club of choice. Like

684
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: these were the peaks, the top of the top doing it.

685
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: But with all that partying came a lot of white stuff,

686
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: and this team was doing copious amounts of cocaine everywhere

687
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: they could get it. This was also this was the

688
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: same time that Len Bay is od two days after

689
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: being number one overall pick in the NBA Draft June

690
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, and Doc Gooden said that he would

691
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: go to the Whiz Cooke dealer and ask.

692
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: Him for the Lembay stuff, one of the craziest lines

693
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: I've ever heard.

694
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: And he like shrugs off, likey, I just want the

695
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: strongest shit. Like, looking back, I know that was crazy,

696
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: but the time, I just wanted the strongest shit.

697
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to have a good time, and that was

698
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: how we did it. We had lots of cocaine, like I.

699
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: The Len Bias story on its own is insane, But

700
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: then for Darryl Shaw, he took it to the next level.

701
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: Give me the shit that killed him, Doc, not Darryl.

702
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doc, my bad Give me the shit that killed him.

703
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: That's nuts.

704
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: And then just like based on player movement before the

705
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six season, a couple of the last pieces

706
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: for the major run, they pulled Ray Knight, who was

707
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: like a crazy fuck not scared of anybody. Also didn't

708
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: fit in when the teams this big, hunky Southern boy.

709
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: He was like he had like kind of a goofy

710
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: face and big cheeks.

711
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: But he fit in the fact that he like he

712
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: was gamer. Ah, he was a gamer. He didn't take

713
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: any shit. He was ready to fight at any given moment.

714
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: Definitely, and he became one of the leaders of this

715
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: team like kind of secretly under the ralar because he

716
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: wasn't a superstar, but he was one of the guys

717
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: who led everything. And that's like classic for this eras

718
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: like the six hitter who was a good defensive player

719
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: and like a good bat with like a tiny bit

720
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: of power and like came through clutch. Like this Meths

721
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: lineup set the tone for like the perfect ideal baseball

722
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: lineups that would like happen throughout baseball, where was like

723
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: Mookie was a slick guy leading off Keith and Nander's

724
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: contact guy too, like Gary Carter all around bat at three,

725
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: Daryl Strawberry power bat at four or Daryl was five.

726
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: I think I might have missed a guy in midle Oh yeah,

727
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: I think who was another speed guy and Keith was three,

728
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: Carter four, Strawberry five, Great Night six.

729
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like they they built a very stereotypical lineup, like

730
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: you just said of like what you would expect during

731
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: the time that me's had it.

732
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then also they guess got baby Oheita who

733
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: finished that with the rotation to be a star studared

734
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: five man unit, and they traded the most bitter man

735
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: on earth, Calvin Schiraldi for him, who was so bitter

736
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: one of the stars of this documentary.

737
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: He every time they brought him on, you could see

738
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: it just it irked him so badly that he was

739
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: one traded away and two that this is the team

740
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: that then went on to beat him in the World Series.

741
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: Like he was just I've never seen someone be so

742
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: bitter over baseball stuff like this, Like he just felt

743
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: like he was wrong that he's so salty about it,

744
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: which is also kind of hilarious to watch nowadays that

745
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: like a fifty six year old man is still so

746
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: upset about something that happened.

747
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: In the eighties, getting SOT and he was so mad

748
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: and this was just even fun. Yet he was even

749
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: on this team and was traded and that did come

750
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: up later and Big got bad against Kevin Mitchell. But

751
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: this team was just completely full of psychos and BOBBYO

752
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: he had to put that in perspective that everyone this

753
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: team thought they were the best, thought they should be

754
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: the best. But that kind of led to this incredible

755
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: level of competition and like everyone kind of rising each other,

756
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: like raising each other up, like with strong tie lifts

757
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: all boats. Yes, it kind of seemed like what you

758
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: have fro this Mets team that was probably like twelve

759
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: bats deep and like six or seven pitchers who could

760
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: all be studs. And then the door opened when Mookie

761
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: Wilson called a freak injury in spring training, and that

762
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: got Lenny Dykster into the starting lineup. Nails as someone

763
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: likes to call him, As Lenny said, it's better than

764
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: being called thumb tacks. But they didn't like that. He

765
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: gave himself a nickname as a rookie, which is really

766
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: classic old baseball stuff, you know.

767
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think like going back to what you

768
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: were saying about, Like this team like played hard, Like

769
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: everything they did was hard. Like that's why Mooie got

770
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: hurt because they did one extra rep in practice, right,

771
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: it was like a rundown thing. Yeah, and a ball

772
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: whizzed by because Mookie was running. He just drilled them

773
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: in the face and he he was done.

774
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: He was out till June after his two practice rep.

775
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: That also gave a look for Kevin Mitchell, who became

776
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: one of the other monsters of this team. They had

777
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: the crazy stories that he killed a cat just because

778
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: he was like such a big burley guy who was

779
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: like really tough and didn't really talk that much.

780
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: And I believe he came from the hood too, Yeah, the.

781
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: San Diego which is the big reason he got traded

782
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: later on, and he was These two guys Mitchell and

783
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: Dykstra and rain Night actually were some of the bigger

784
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: fight instigators on this team that had three fights on

785
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: the sea, four fights on the season, one of each

786
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: instigated by those three guys, and then one instigated by

787
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: the first base coach Bill Robinson, who seemed to also

788
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: be a favorite of this clubhouse. He's crazy match. In

789
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: the first bit, Dag Mets could do that this year

790
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: with these coaches they set up just start a fight

791
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 2: with the pitcher.

792
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm so in to see a couple brawls

793
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: this year. I want to see it happen just with

794
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: the other teams.

795
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: Not the same team definitely, but that like aggressiveness as

796
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: the team like set the tone for the way this

797
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: team was going to play an act. And it was

798
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: pretty cool the way the documentary laid that out, by

799
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: the fact that they just went on the field trying

800
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: to smash people. One of them I forgot who was.

801
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: I think it might have been Oheita said, or it

802
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: may have been Keith. That they were like growling dogs

803
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: before every game, and right before the season, David Johnson says,

804
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: We're not only going to win, we're going to dominate. Yeah,

805
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: that's so cool. And Frank Kasher was pissed and he's like,

806
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't fucking care, We're gonna dominate. What do you

807
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: want me to say, want me to lie?

808
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Frank Kasher was very reserved. Davey Johnson in these

809
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six Mets not reserved in the slightest. They

810
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: were very cocky, very arrogant. I would even say to

811
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: a t but they did not care who you were.

812
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: They were gonna try to absolutely shove it down your throat.

813
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, God, it's so funny. Then they made they

814
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: won the first game of the year and made a

815
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: hip hop song, because everybody does in nineteen ey six.

816
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: You make a corny hip hop song when you win

817
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: a game so bad. Howard Johnson had a bad verse,

818
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Kevin Mitchell had a bad verse. Oh

819
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Darryl had a horrific verse. Like these guys

820
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: listening to this were like, we are the coolest. And

821
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: then they immediately lose three games in a row after

822
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: that song so bad.

823
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: It's so bad. You guys haven't heard it, Go listen

824
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: to it. It is just it's a great meme though,

825
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: like when the Mets. When the Mets win the World Series,

826
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: were blasted that one hundred percent get Mets marized, Get Mets.

827
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: Marized, Oh my god. And then they had a big

828
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Right after that, they were playing like shit. The media

829
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: was starting to chirp at them a little bit. They

830
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: had a big four game set against the Cardinals, the

831
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: team that ended their season last year, and they swept

832
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: him in four games, planted their flag white. Harzoc said

833
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: they were like playing October games in April, and the

834
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: team went on to win eighteen and nineteen and a halfter

835
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: that and kind of bury this era of strong Cardinals teams.

836
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they they really didn't look back. When this

837
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: ninety eighty six season came along. They were absolutely dominant.

838
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: They were just way better than everyone else.

839
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: And then the documentary got more into the drug stuff,

840
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: and the commissioner and the eve of that season said

841
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: that these players have dignity. We know we're confident no

842
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: one and none of our player are gonna be doing

843
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: cocaine anymore. And it goes to Lenny just starts laughing.

844
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: He said, we put the essen speed.

845
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: Just taking greenies before every game, had to even out

846
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: of the coke from the night before. He said, in

847
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: ninety percent of this team took greenies like. The only

848
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: one who remembered never taking one was Gary Carter, And

849
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Lenny said he I was trying to make him take

850
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: a man. I told make Gary'll make you a lot

851
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: better man.

852
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: Lenny Dykster is such a bad friend, the guy you

853
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: don't want to have around here. He'll give you great stories.

854
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: But he is going to get you in a ton

855
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: of trouble.

856
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: It's gotta be one of the worst friends in the

857
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: history of friends, history of the world, history Jesus Christ.

858
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: There was one night with on the road and Lenny

859
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: came back after going out and he just kicked down

860
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: Gary Carter's hotel door and he said, Gary Carter picked

861
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: him up by the collar shirt and told him, you'll

862
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: ever fucking do that to me again.

863
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Lenny Dyke show was on the hinge. He was out

864
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: of control.

865
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: He was insane human being. He said, we walked around

866
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: like we had fifteen inch cocks because it felt like

867
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: we did. Didn't he say something along the lines of

868
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: like we played hard and we fucked hard or something

869
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: as well. Well. No, they said when they were going

870
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: on the road that they wanted to beat you, drink

871
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: your beer and fuck your women.

872
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: That's what it was.

873
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Y yeah, good, Oh we else forgot here. The funny

874
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: this between Keith and Gary Carter also never stopped. They

875
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: basically stepped on each other's toes and Gary like tried

876
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: to be the public leader, but Keith was the real leader.

877
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: Like he would circulate around the game. He would talk

878
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: to every single position group, like he was able to

879
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: see things the other people saw. That was really I think,

880
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: really cool.

881
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: Well, there was like I don't remember exactly what the

882
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: details were, but like at one point someone was struggling

883
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: on the mound and Gary Carter went and talked to him,

884
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: and then Keith went and talked to him. Was like,

885
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: throw a fucking fastball otherwise I'll kill you or something

886
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: like that.

887
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: You make two together. But he basically said there would

888
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: always be multiple mount visits, like Gary would do a

889
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: mounain is that he'd walk back and immediately Keith would

890
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 2: walk out and say whatever he wanted to say. But

891
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: that Keith line that was from that crazy Game six

892
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: against the Astros in the NLCS that year. He's like,

893
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: if you throw another fastball, I'm gonna kill you. That's

894
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: one of the greatest cloths of all the time. But

895
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: then like while this team was sick, like they were

896
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: forty four and sixteen in June, which is hysterical, like

897
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: everyone was buying and everyone was amazing, Doc was struggling

898
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: for the first time in his career and his performance

899
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: dipped and he mentioned like losing that high of being

900
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: one of the best pitchers in baseball kind of hurt him,

901
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: like mentally, and then he got injured, he got stuck

902
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: down in Tampa. They started doing a lot more drugs there,

903
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: basically because he was like bored, and I don't think

904
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: like anyone realized how bad he was with it because

905
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: it seemed kind of normal with the rest of the team.

906
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: Darrow was also partying like crazy. The equipment manager, who

907
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: was always a great interview, also in this, so that

908
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: there was one game where Darryll missed BP and the

909
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: equipment manager had to run out to the parking lot

910
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: to give him his uniforms and no one would know.

911
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like, oh, man, imagine being a part of

912
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: these teams during that time. It's just like a little

913
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: fly on the wall. It would have been electric.

914
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bat boy in the in the equipment manager

915
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: were just saying crazy things. But also one of the

916
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: crazy stories that came out of it was that Ray

917
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Ray Knight was at this like fancy upscale like southern banquet.

918
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: I forgot even what it was for, And the commissioner

919
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: approached him and said, hey, we have a private detective

920
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: following one of your young black superstars and he's doing

921
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: a lot of cocaine. You have to fix it, and

922
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: he was like, who is it. He's like, you have

923
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: to find out. It's like what it's the TV show.

924
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: Which is like funny too because like there were two

925
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: black superstars on the message.

926
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fifty fifty And then he asked down there.

927
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: I was like, I was gonna say it was me.

928
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: It's all of those doc they threw each other right

929
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: under the bus. Under the bus didn't even look to

930
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: both ways, but holy shit. And also just go to

931
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: show how famous these guys were, like Keith and Roni

932
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: were on the cover of GQ, like Carl and Strawberry

933
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: were in ads everywhere. Like he said before, these guys

934
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: were a listed is like they were all over the

935
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: fucking place, like they were taking the shit to the

936
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: next level of superstar though.

937
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: And I also thought it was super crazy too that

938
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: like as popular and as like great they were. A

939
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: guy like Keith Hernandez, his relationship with his dad was

940
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: so crazy, like his dad was insanely hard on him,

941
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: but it seemed like Keith like really wanted that, and

942
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: like he would call him after every game, after every

943
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: at bat, he wanted to hear everything that is Dad thought.

944
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: Well, because he basically said that his baseball career was

945
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: like stemmed like from his dad, because his dad was

946
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: always his coach, and I think his dad was a

947
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: semi pro ball player. I think his brother was also

948
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: a minor league player. So he really took what they

949
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 2: had to say very seriously, and his dad just got

950
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: really really hard on him. He said during this year,

951
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: he wasn't really having the best season at times. I

952
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: think I think he had like a crazy slump. He

953
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: went like, oh, Ford, I remember exactly might have a strawberry. Basically,

954
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: Keiths just had a bad slump over the summer and

955
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 2: that was being hard on him, and he got pissed

956
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: his dad's still giving him no credit for this amazing

957
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: career he had. He'd basically cut him off and he

958
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: had never ever smoothed over with his dad, which is

959
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: a really sad thing.

960
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, super sad. Like all he ever wanted it seemed

961
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: like was just approval from his dad. He really could

962
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: never get it, which is so heartbreaking to hear.

963
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely is. But and also that more of the

964
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: fun stuff, the fact they were riding these planes as

965
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: a nice precursor to the plane they would ride home

966
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: from Houston, just going insane. I loved how they broke

967
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: down the plane by sections on the documentary and like

968
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: showed the way a plane seating chart lies out and

969
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: they were like, here are the good guys, here are

970
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: the normal guys, Like here are the gamblers, here are

971
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: the drinkers, and here the loom. Yeah, and they had

972
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: the scum bunch in the back and they just went wild, drinking, gambling, screaming.

973
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: And that also just played with their whole mantra on

974
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: the road, which was again, beat them, drink their beer,

975
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: fuck their women. That was the Mets attitude in the road.

976
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: That season literally lived it to a tee. That's like,

977
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: it's not just them saying it, that's all they cared

978
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: to do. It seemed like Yeah.

979
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: And with that, like they really did a lot of

980
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: the last one, they were really having sex with tons

981
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: of women all over the place. Keith said he didn't

982
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: allow himself to stay out past three.

983
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Am because he knew something about it was gonna happen.

984
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: It was get dangerous. The story also where they got

985
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: Jay Horowitz a hooker in Montreal.

986
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: Which like, if you guys don't know Jay Horrowitz, he's

987
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: gotta be like one of the nerdiest guys on planet Earth.

988
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: He's been the he was the pr guy for the

989
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: Mets for like fifty years, and he's like this short

990
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: Jewish guy. He just has like VARs like thatsh yeah,

991
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: these little ground glasses. He's like five', three two hundred.

992
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: POUNDS i don't even know if he, Speeds like that's

993
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: like how good he two? Shoes Jay horowitz appears to.

994
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: Be he stays fifteen percent below the speed limit at all, times.

995
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: And they high they got him a. Hooker his, reality

996
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: he was Just.

997
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm, Gonna i'm gonna do.

998
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: It he's so, uncomfortable.

999
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: And Lenny dyke's just. Cackling and then he's like a

1000
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: rookie on this. Team he's assuming this insane. Role these

1001
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: guys must have fucking Hated, Lennydistra oh my. God but

1002
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: also they like the classic stories that we've always heard

1003
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: that uh That darryl used to pick out girls from

1004
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: the stands and bring them down into the locker room

1005
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: between innings and then send it back. Up And davey was,

1006
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't. Care they're playing. Well he plays. Well

1007
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: who cares the fact That Wally. Backman Wally. Backman, also

1008
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: you've never Seen Wally. Backman he's like a generous five foot,

1009
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: Six he's not exactly like An. Adonis he said that

1010
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: they would go into hotels and all the groupies were,

1011
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: there and they will go up and down with girls

1012
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: over and over again and just keep. Alternating, yeah they,

1013
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: would said they woul, said they wouldn't even check into.

1014
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: Rooms they would take these girls up and down all.

1015
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: Day like what the? Fuck these were girls on the.

1016
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: Road we're coming to hit on The. Mets that's how

1017
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: famous The mets.

1018
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: Were The Mets and like it's not like we're talking

1019
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: about you, know like, Uh Mike trout level players Like

1020
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: wally Back in while you're. Back when comparable to, TODAY i,

1021
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: mean who would you even say.

1022
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: There's a contact Orient the second baseman wouldn't even be

1023
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: a major league baseball player. Today David. Fletcher it's like

1024
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: In Mundo Susa, sosa basically without without the shortstop.

1025
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Eligibility this steep was, crazy absolutely.

1026
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: Nuts oh my. God it's also just there's so many

1027
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: little tiny things in this that you could expand on so.

1028
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: Much they're so, funny like the fact That Gary carter

1029
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: made a habit that curtain, calls And Keith nanels was,

1030
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: LIKE i didn't like that very. Much keith missed their

1031
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: old school to a.

1032
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: T i could have Told jack, Either andez Hated Gary

1033
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: carter's curtain calls.

1034
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: And it got them thrown out all the. Time because

1035
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: the fans Of city Of, Chase dadum goes so. Crazy

1036
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: Also shaaney sick back then it was. Popping it made

1037
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: kind of miss.

1038
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Set yeah for the, atmosphere but the stadium itself is

1039
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: just absolute dogshit compared To Sydney field.

1040
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Worse it was a. Pit but like the vibes the

1041
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: orange seats in the field level vibes are on, match

1042
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: that's for. Sure vibes are on. Match but think they

1043
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 2: got thrown out and they had more. Fights everyone puts

1044
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: target on their back and they're, like good fuck.

1045
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: It or like the massive bar fight In, houston which

1046
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: is like a little bit of a precursor to what's

1047
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna happen later in the.

1048
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: Year but four guys went to jail and then they

1049
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: walk in the back with open. Arms they, said the

1050
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: players put tape over their. Lockers still imitate jail. Bars

1051
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: bobby o'heea said after that that the check engine light was,

1052
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 2: on the car was going at a warp.

1053
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: Speed, yeah though they were like it's so cluch, shit

1054
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: but like they really did just have like unbelievable vibes

1055
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: in this locker, room unbelievable.

1056
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: Vibes it seems like one of the most insane environments. Ever,

1057
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: also they showed that Insane keith play that's one of

1058
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: the most famous plays ever made by first, baseman where

1059
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: he charged all the way across the diamond on a

1060
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: bunt bunt through the ball like leaning back across his

1061
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: by the third base and double play completed at. First

1062
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: two insane facts about. THAT i never realized that that

1063
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: was in the same game as the Infamous Ray Knight

1064
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: Eric davis, Fight, yes which was holy, Shit like that

1065
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: was a real fucking. Brawl and also Rain night always

1066
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: had those little perceptions around him being from The, south

1067
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: not liking certain, people so that people thought they might

1068
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: have played into. It and that WHEN i looked at

1069
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: that Play Gary carter was playing third, Base, YEAH i was.

1070
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is Rain night got, inted got.

1071
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: Ejected they had nobody else to. Play and the other

1072
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: thing about that fight too is this is a big

1073
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: reason Why Jordaneorge foster had a little bit of falling

1074
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: out with The mets, too Because George foster played with The,

1075
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: reds like those were guys he played with a few years.

1076
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: Ago probably some of his friends did knock it off

1077
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: the bench just to watch the team, fight and that

1078
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: was a, huge huge.

1079
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: Problem, yeah that kind of killed his vibes within the. Team,

1080
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: also he was not a fight. There he was more

1081
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: of a good. Guy he seemed like he never really

1082
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: fitted in this locker. Room he also denied permission to

1083
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: speak in this, documentary wasn't a part of. It so

1084
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: it just seemed like this wasn't really this whole team

1085
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: wasn't really his. Jam that also takes us to the

1086
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: third episode Where Mike tyson just was in, it the

1087
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion of the, world just hanging out With doc And

1088
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: darryll pre.

1089
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: Games it's, like it's also, crazy like how Old Mike tyson,

1090
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: is like how long his career lasted is pretty, insane

1091
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: it really.

1092
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 2: IS i also our generation kind of misses how big

1093
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: boxers were back, Then like boxing was one of the

1094
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: pre eminent sports in this, country basically boxing and, baseball

1095
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: which is hilarious to think about now that was LIKE

1096
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: ufc and, football but just how big of a Deal

1097
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: Mike tyson actually was being. There and then also back

1098
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: At George, foster he got caught right after that that

1099
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: fight thing the team said was a race, thing But Kevin,

1100
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: mitchell the guy took his, job which is kind of.

1101
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: Funny, well, No George foster said was a race, thing

1102
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: you said it. Wasn't, yeah and That kevin Ke mitchell

1103
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: took his job Another African american player at the, time

1104
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: it was Like George foster was he just didn't fit

1105
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: with the. Team like it might have been racially motivated

1106
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: a little. BIT i think it probably had more to

1107
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: do with his play was. Declining they were paying him

1108
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: a lot of money and he just really wasn't that good.

1109
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: ANYMORE I, mean they had a guy that they could

1110
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: put in there and help the team a lot. More

1111
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: it was. Weird it was definitely weird because like they

1112
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: are two sides of every. Story AND i don't Blame

1113
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: George foster for what he said or what he.

1114
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: Did, yeah but also wouldn't shock me the way That

1115
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: Frank cash and handled other things with this, team and

1116
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: that maybe he was like a little bit racist but

1117
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: definitely not because of this, move you. Know, Yeah and

1118
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: it was also just really funny, Though oh, Boy Lee

1119
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: mozilla got that roster spot once they got rid of

1120
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: The George. Foster that was probably the thing that you

1121
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: could point to be, like, well why Does Lee mozilla get?

1122
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: It because he wasn't very good Atnymo he's.

1123
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: Just The italian guy From. Brooklyn but still, vibes good,

1124
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: vibes still immaculate. Vibes Still Lee mozilla's got great. Vibes

1125
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: then they came out with another bad Song august.

1126
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: That yo mets.

1127
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: Go that's a, banger, Horrific but that went like in

1128
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty style, viral which is pretty. Funny and Then

1129
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: Gary carter got hurt and he started playing a little

1130
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: bit of first base because he couldn't catch every, day

1131
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: and that gave us what Ed hernon right behind the,

1132
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: plate who was actually a pretty good backup and he

1133
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: came gave some great quotes in this documentary as. Well

1134
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: he was previous an electric factory the whole. Time John

1135
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: gibbons also became the, backup which is. Funny Former Blue jays,

1136
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: manager just another another guy who was a part of

1137
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: this team and the team did great with That Grey

1138
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: carter apparently killed.

1139
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Him, yeah it. Was it was driving him. Nuts his

1140
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: wife was on there all the. Time it was like

1141
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: he was dying that he couldn't. Play he couldn't handle.

1142
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: It and then those two weeks also costing THE mvb

1143
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: because he ended up coming in third of the voting that.

1144
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: Year and while he's still even missing those two weeks

1145
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: Led Major League baseball and RBIs just again she goes

1146
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: to show how good a player he, was especially leading

1147
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: the league IN RBIs as a. Catcher we're not gonna

1148
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: play every day, anyway and he missed two weeks with an,

1149
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: injury like it's incredibly impressive.

1150
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: For, him you. KNOW i mean the team was. Loaded

1151
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: the team was loaded top to. Bottom so it was

1152
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: like when one, guy you, know stepped, away another guy stepped,

1153
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: up like literally every single time someone stepped up for this, team.

1154
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: Literally and then just to get through the end of the,

1155
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: season The mets were kind of just just walking their

1156
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: way through because they're winning by twenty games and the

1157
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: season didn't, matter which probably ended up making them not

1158
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: as sharp as they could have been for the, playoffs

1159
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: which almost almost cost. Them But roger McDowell doing whatnots so.

1160
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: Shit he would do the thing where he puts pants

1161
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: on his, head his uniform on his on his. Bottom

1162
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: he just walk around like, that which was pretty. Funny

1163
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: he used to light his shoes on fire in the,

1164
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: dugout WHICH i got. Foot that's.

1165
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: INSANE i can't believe that's the thing, Hotfoot, like how.

1166
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: Could let someone Do they're gonna melt a? Shoe but,

1167
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: again this team was just twenty games up of. Forty

1168
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: the player, like what the fuck are they gonna? Do

1169
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: Cindy wapper said watching them was like reading a, novel

1170
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: like you just it. Was it was, entertaining which.

1171
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: Is also like funny to have her in there talking

1172
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: about The. Mets in nineteen eighty, six she.

1173
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: Was, LIKE i was in love with every guy But

1174
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: queen's Galle queen's. Gallon this is the SLUMP i was thinking.

1175
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: About darryl was not doing. Well he went over forty

1176
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: five At Chase stadium In, august got boothed. Excessively he

1177
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: had the quote where said he wished he was a

1178
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: homeless person so no one expected anything of.

1179
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Him he was going through some sh some mental, shit

1180
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: and like he was like struggling with his wife. Too

1181
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: he was like kind of smacking her around a little.

1182
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: Bit, yeah he was definite violent with.

1183
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: Her did not have a great relationship as you could

1184
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: imagine for a guy who was violent and cheating on his.

1185
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: Wife it seemed like seemingly every time he went on

1186
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: the road he was going through some really really tough,

1187
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: times and it seemed like The mets were almost close

1188
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: to kind of like losing him in a.

1189
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: Way, well they basically, did like not very long after.

1190
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: This it seemed just like nobody on this team or

1191
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: in this organization really did enough to and not there's

1192
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: anyone's job to do, that to bring someone up and mentor,

1193
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: somebody but seemed like no one really really pulled him

1194
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: up the way they could, have like been a, leader

1195
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: been a. Mentor it's also probably because they're Besides George,

1196
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: foster there were no Older African american players in this,

1197
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: team like especially in this, time the way the racial

1198
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 2: divide still was In america and in, baseball it'd probably

1199
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: be hard for guy Like Gary carter or Like keith

1200
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: and Nana is to take someone Like Daryl strawbye under their.

1201
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: Wing he probably would be like you'll know anything about.

1202
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Me you don't know What i'm going. Through you know

1203
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: nothing about the WAY i grew.

1204
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: Up, Yeah darryl's life was very different Than, Gary carter

1205
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 1: And keith and is growing.

1206
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: Up all the interesting is just how many more black

1207
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: players were in baseball in the nineteen. Eighties like that

1208
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: was so clear watching this between The, mets The astros

1209
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: and The Red, sox all the teams they focused, on

1210
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: they were just, flush every single one of.

1211
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: Them, well you have to think about the time period,

1212
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Too so you Saw William, Mason Hank aaron really get

1213
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: their their, rise and that was because Of Jackie. Robinson,

1214
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: yeah all those great players then led to, like you,

1215
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: know Younger African american kids seen that being LIKE i

1216
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: can be like this, guy which is something that we've

1217
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: like missed in baseball because there hasn't been this influx

1218
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: Of African american, players especially like the great. Ones we

1219
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: Saw Barry bonds and that's where you, yeah that was,

1220
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: before but that's where you see like McCutcheon and guys

1221
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: like him that like came up during that. Time like

1222
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: everything is kind of, generational so when the great, players

1223
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: there's like that gap in, between but there was a

1224
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: ton during this time in.

1225
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: Baseball but it's also about the popularity of baseball compared

1226
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: to basketball and. Football like baseball during those times in

1227
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: the sixties and seventies and the, fifties whereas by far

1228
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: the most popular sport In, america nothing else was even,

1229
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: close and through the, eighties, ninees and two thousands has

1230
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: very much taken a back seat to both basketball and.

1231
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i think that is where a lot of that has.

1232
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: Gone you, know, yeah, oh without a, doubt it's not

1233
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: as accessible as. Basketball without a, basketball you don't need

1234
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: anything really to, play you can just make it up by.

1235
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: Yourself baseball is a, hard hard sport to get.

1236
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: Into, yeah best way to show up and. Play but

1237
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: this is also come inside at the time when the

1238
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: city was seeing a lot of crime and that was

1239
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: something that was wearing on. People but they kind of

1240
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: flipped this the documentary and like use it to like

1241
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: show how The mez were embodying the way this city.

1242
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: Was just the team was like, grimy, dirty they weren't,

1243
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: corporate and they were. Visceral like it was kind of

1244
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: cool to see that The mets had this like kind

1245
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: of like this. MANTRA i think they still kind of

1246
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: run with.

1247
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: Today, yeah the city and The mets kind of went

1248
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: hand in. Hand if The mets were doing, well if

1249
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: The mets were doing, this the city was doing. This

1250
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: if The mets were doing, that the city was doing.

1251
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: That like they just were kind of synonymous with each,

1252
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: other as they should.

1253
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: Be this is kind of, funny but like we always,

1254
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: do we kind of just realized that we've been talking

1255
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: for almost an hour basically about only half of this,

1256
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: documentary so we might we might be cutting this episode

1257
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: short soon before we get but like get it up

1258
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: until The mets made the playoffs that, year and this

1259
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: was another, funny Classy Keith hernandez story that he skipped

1260
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: THE nl'st clinching. Game it's.

1261
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: Hilarious it's hilarious The. Mets that stuff can't happen, now

1262
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: it just wouldn't.

1263
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 2: Happen he, said it was freezing out AND i had a. Cold,

1264
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: yeah we know what that. Meant we know what that. Meant,

1265
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: yeah one hundred. Percent and then he came in For dave,

1266
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: mcgaddan who had a great. Game you have two hits

1267
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 2: in AN rbi in the night, thinning so it could

1268
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: be on the field for the, celebration that's that's a

1269
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: ball or move right, there major bottom if you do

1270
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: that when you're a stud was the. Stud and then

1271
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: the fact that this was still in the time of

1272
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: the world when professional sports facilities were raided after teams won,

1273
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: things and these players were genuinely horrified by The Shaye

1274
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 2: stadium faithful and what was gonna. Happen people were trying

1275
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: to dig up a home. Plate they, did they got

1276
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: it out the kind of the big ass like fully

1277
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: concrete the guy out of. There the outfielders were. Scared

1278
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: Mookie wilson, said the only thing he was thinking about

1279
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: of which direction he was gonna run to get off this.

1280
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: Field like could you imagine being the black, fielder your fox.

1281
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: Being swarmed by fifty thousand.

1282
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: People keith, said someone came for his. Glove, yeah it

1283
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: loves his.

1284
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: Hand people were coming after, bases the, grass the, dirt

1285
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: the players that has like literally anything was up for,

1286
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: grabs trying to rip anything. Off to remember this, moment

1287
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: which is again imagine if that happened.

1288
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: Today but These mets fans weren't. Sense this was the

1289
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: team's first playoff appearce in thirteen. Years there were like

1290
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: tons of videos of these fans eating. Grass you, know

1291
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: it was at least fifteen twenty people they showed in

1292
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: the small snippets of this documentary eating, grass, crazy consuming,

1293
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: grass putting in their, mouth chewing and swallowing, it spinning

1294
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: it out ire.

1295
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Tongue, yeah it was a crazy time for The, mets for.

1296
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: Everybody it was nuts fucking crazy.

1297
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: Time and then that sets the stage for The METS

1298
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: nlcs Against, houston WHICH i thought those games were, interesting

1299
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: So i'd like to like kind of get into them

1300
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 2: a little. Bit and we're not gonna anything talk about

1301
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: next week, either so we'll save that for next.

1302
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: Week, yeah we'll save that for next. Week we're because

1303
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: it really. Is the playoffs are their own story as,

1304
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Well like they are two episodes basically of this entire.

1305
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: Thing so we're gonna save that for a part. Two

1306
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: hate to blueball you guys a little bit, here but

1307
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: we did talk for about fifty, minutes and we did

1308
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: not think we were gonna go this, long. Honestly but you.

1309
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: Can't you can't forget all the little stuff because that's

1310
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: what made this, documentary in this thirty for thirty series so,

1311
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: great was all the little things like we talked about

1312
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: at the. Beginning so make sure you, guys are you,

1313
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: know following us wherever you Do Mets up On, Twitter,

1314
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: instagram TikTok YouTube. Channel make sure you're following us On apple,

1315
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Was Apple, Podcasts Google, Podcasts spotify so you don't miss

1316
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: out because part two will be coming. Later we're gonna

1317
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: have to separate these two because we're not gonna do

1318
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: like we said in an hour and twenty minute. Episode

1319
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: you'll just get two that go for two hours, instead

1320
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: will recover the playoffs on for this nineteen eighty Six

1321
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: mets team from The Once upon A time In queen's.

1322
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Documentary thank you guys for. Listening if you have not

1323
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: yet Followed, james follow him At cheater had no arrange

1324
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: me at Draftneck mark and, uh we'll see you for

1325
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: the next episode of The Mess Up, Podcast episode number seventies.

1326
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: FOUR i think, Yeah i'll be the next. One, yeah peace.

1327
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: Out part two coming. Later, Bye, PIECE i gotta see

1328
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: you next.

1329
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: Week Don George. FOSTON i love this. Team The mets

1330
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: are better than The Rent. Machine i'll live to play

1331
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 3: and that's my. Thing this, Year we're gonna win The

1332
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 3: Serious wren.

1333
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: Play together a team for of TYPE a mats with us.

1334
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: Where Dyna mine Straw, Man darren is all the?

1335
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 4: Same call Him.

1336
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: Barry what's in a? Name thank, You. George you're a

1337
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: classic guy with your black.

1338
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 5: Bat you, know.

1339
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 6: You Know california is Where i'm.

1340
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: From but For New york.

1341
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 5: Home, run, power, speed you know.

1342
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: We got where the beast of The. East when you're,

1343
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: hot you're. Hot when the white it's in the, groove

1344
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: there snoop. Doubt next work you are, here three, strikes you're.

1345
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 6: Out wat's my?

1346
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Speaker 5: Name what CAN i?

1347
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 6: Say you know they call me doctor k change, up,

1348
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 6: fastball slide of the, curve step up to the. Plate

1349
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 6: if you got the?

1350
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: Nerve where's the.

1351
00:51:36,920 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 6: Shuttu with control And paul all the diesel trains throwing.

1352
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: Two stone bullets and a ball and.

1353
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 6: Change lennard d your spirits. Contagious what you do with

1354
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 6: your body is really.

1355
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: OUTRAGEOUS i love to run down alongside. BALLS i catch them.

1356
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: ALL i ain't a pretty no. WALL i run and

1357
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Speaker 2: THEN i.

1358
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 5: Died it's a wonder still lies from me On.

1359
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 6: Suna that's my, Name flint sharn, Stomp it's my.

1360
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: GAME i may f Blum.

1361
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: Man i'm really, smart been mathematized and seeing the.

1362
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: Groove he't real, hot stand, up proud dude a, way

1363
00:52:32,000 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: shout out. Loud when they want a better deal With,

1364
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Speaker 4: tror they call on.

1365
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: Me break dagulare sliders.

1366
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: Hot i'm on the mouth hoo con So i'm bowing.

1367
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: Down i'm Kissing mitchell season, through studying all the.

1368
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: Moves i'm ready to. COOK i got it to get.

1369
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: It i'm ready to. Play i'm up in the brigs

1370
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: And i'm hoping the. Steak, Yeah I'm Tim.

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00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 5: Temple let me begin by SAYING i was once a.

1372
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: TWIN i made the. Move it feels just.

1373
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 5: Right i've been, mixed.

1374
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: VERIZED i see the.

1375
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 6: Light my name Is.

1376
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: Jo i'm here to say a team is going.

1377
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 6: All the way for pitching pound speed in, style.

1378
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: Which aunt's guaranteed to make your.

1379
00:53:51,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 5: Smile feat that, rock get That.

1380
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: Froz then that's, rock and that's.

1381
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 5: That's, rod and That's. Rod That's ride and memorize That's,

1382
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 5: rod and that, rock That's, God that's

1383
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: That's