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Speaker 2: Here he is my partner, and of course my friend

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. Hello, Bucky, how are you Week fifteen in

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Speaker 1: I am great, Andy. It has been a great football

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm glad you said that great football

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Speaker 2: to hear me out on this. Okay. I don't care

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Speaker 2: what kind of a football thing you are, high school, college, NFL.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I finally figured it out and I

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Speaker 2: saw the uesterday, So you say it's a great football weekend.

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Speaker 2: I figured it out we as fans follow brands, brands,

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Speaker 2: not players, and yesterday was proof positive. Saturday had these

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Speaker 2: games next to Army Navy, South Alabama, Western Michigan, Jackson State,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina State, Mercer and Mercy, oh Merca and North

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Speaker 2: Dakota State. You put these same kids in a Georgia, Texas, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: It's MUSCTV. We're those jerseys that I just mentioned. I'll pass.

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Speaker 2: I'll take a pass. We root for brands, we don't

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Speaker 2: root for players. We don't even root for teams, brand names, period.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's all about in college football. Brands rule.

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Speaker 2: gonna pick me apart, but that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: I said to myself, you know what, this is a

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Speaker 2: Mussey TV. I don't have to see North Dakota State

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, brands ruled on a major scale. But

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Speaker 1: so while Army Navy kind of carries the day, it

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Speaker 1: And because of the fluid nature of college football, the

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Speaker 2: You know, you're so kind, you know you make me

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Speaker 2: the sports scrooge. That's what I am. You're so kind,

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Speaker 2: You're like Santa, you really are, you know, And I'm

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Speaker 2: You're just a good guy and I'm just a mean

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Speaker 2: old scrooge. I get it. I mean really, and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: if to call this state, you're right, and there'll be

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Speaker 2: speaking of college, let's get into this Heisman Trophy thing.

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Speaker 2: I watched it last night and I'm very happy Travis

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Speaker 2: And the best thing about the Heisman Trophy Show, the

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Speaker 2: And I think Travis Hunter is a great person too.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Army goes now to eleven and two.

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Speaker 2: It's intense, it's a big deal, and people really and

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Speaker 2: I said, we're going to tell you why he did it,

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Speaker 2: Y'all get to pick his staff, you get to decide

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy for him. A really, and it shows

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Speaker 1: But look, this is not our president. Coaches coach, and

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that. He's Bucket Brooks. He coaches, he plays,

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Speaker 2: Let's roll back the clock a little bit. The Thursday

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Speaker 2: night ugly game Rams and forty nine is Rams eight

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Speaker 2: and six right now. Forty nine is five and eight

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Speaker 2: twelve six in a sloppy game. But there was a

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Speaker 2: bigger story to that game. Obviously, the Rams win that game,

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Speaker 2: and they're rolling right now. The Rams have won for

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Speaker 2: the seventh time and nine games, and he started the

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Speaker 2: season one and four, so they're a team to be

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Speaker 2: reckoned with down the stretch. Forty nine is the season's over.

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Speaker 2: But more than that, the story buck is the fact

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Speaker 2: that with their injuries to the linebackers in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the third quarter on that game Thursday Night, the

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Speaker 2: forty nine has turned the veteran Devondre Campbell turned to

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Speaker 2: the game and guess what, he says, thanks, but no thanks?

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Speaker 2: What in the hell did he do?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you ever been involved in a situation

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Speaker 2: like that where a player says, I'd rather not I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you don't want to play, don't suit up. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but don't do that to you. How do you face

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Speaker 2: your teammates. This is the most disgusting thing I've ever

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Speaker 2: seen in sport. I mean, you talk about flag playing thing,

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Speaker 2: that big deal, all right, that happens. No, it's an

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Speaker 2: emotional thing. This is, you know, a respectable thing to

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Speaker 2: your teammates. They were short linebackers. How do you do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don that's a tough one. I mean, that's one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest and most egregious sins that you can

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Speaker 1: commit as a teammate. Like it's one thing to play

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Speaker 1: for the coaches and the organization those things, but what

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Speaker 1: you really do is you're playing for the people to

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Speaker 1: the right and to the left of you. And so

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Speaker 1: in that moment, when Devondre Campbell turned down the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to go in the game, what he did is he

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Speaker 1: basically gave a collective f you to his teammates, and

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Speaker 1: no matter what the situation, no matter what the circumstance is,

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Speaker 1: you always shure it for your teammates. Yes, you're a

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Speaker 1: guy that was a starter who had to take a

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Speaker 1: backup role because Drake Greenlaw was coming back. But at

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Speaker 1: some moment you have to understand that this is bigger

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Speaker 1: than you. This is not about you and your feelings.

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Speaker 1: It's about the collective. It's about how the team has

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Speaker 1: to operate and what the team wants to do. Because

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Speaker 1: we all talk about as a team, we want to

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. We want to win the biggest

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Speaker 1: team on it that you can win being held as

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Speaker 1: a champion because everyone benefits from the accolade of being

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Speaker 1: a champion. But for Devondre Campbell to not be able

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Speaker 1: to sacrifice and check his ego at that moment speaks

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Speaker 1: volumes about his character, his football character in those things,

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Speaker 1: and it'd be hard for the Nineers to bring him

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Speaker 1: back into that locker room because at their lowest he

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Speaker 1: walked away. And so you can't do that when you're

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Speaker 1: a teammate. And so look, it's over for him in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Maybe somebody else will give him another chance

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Speaker 1: to win because he has been a Pro Bowl player,

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Speaker 1: maybe a Boardline All Pro caliber player in his career.

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Speaker 1: But man to do that in a big stage with

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Speaker 1: playoff implications being what they were, that's hard. That's hard.

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Speaker 1: That's hard. That's hard to overlook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kyle Shanahan to me, and maybe he saved

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Speaker 2: his biggest outburst behind closed doors because what I had

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Speaker 2: read and heard after that game, you know, basically he said, well,

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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll handle it. One of those deals. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he went ballistic behind closed doors, and maybe that's

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Speaker 2: the way to do it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Nah, you can't even you can't even go ballistic on that. Like,

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Speaker 1: once people show you who they are, you got to

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Speaker 1: believe them. He showed them that when they needed him,

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Speaker 1: he walked away. There's no other conversation that you have

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Speaker 1: to have, Endy like you needed him. We came him

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Speaker 1: at a time where two linebackers are down, Hey man,

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Speaker 1: we need you, and you're like, nah, man, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: and then you walked off the field. There's no coming

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Speaker 1: back from that. There's no apology, there's no there's nothing

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Speaker 1: that you can say to come back from that. So look,

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Speaker 1: it's over. There's no need to yell about it. You

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Speaker 1: make the transaction. I would expect him to be cut

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Speaker 1: on Monday and then you move on. You can't have

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Speaker 1: that kind of dude on your team when you're trying

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Speaker 1: to have everybody pulling the boat in one direction and

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Speaker 1: you have this one guy pulled in the other direction.

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Speaker 1: He has to go, he has to fall on on

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Speaker 1: and he didn't, so he's out.

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Speaker 2: What an ugly season for the San Francisco forty nine is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously injuries were a factor, but you hit

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Speaker 2: it on the head a little bit. But the money,

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Speaker 2: the money situation was yeah.

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Speaker 1: But and I mean the signs were there the entire offseason.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's complaining and whining about money and this contract and

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Speaker 1: that contract. And look, you got to take care of

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Speaker 1: your players when you win. You understand that, right, Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey and Trent Williams, and then you had Brandon you're

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Speaker 1: doing his thing, and Deepot Samuel, and then you had this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just so many people with their

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Speaker 1: hand out. It reminded me like looking at the board

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Speaker 1: game Monopoly when you pass it, oh, and my man

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Speaker 1: has my hand out and you pay your taxes, in

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Speaker 1: your fees. It was too much. And when you talk

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Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl hangover, it's not just the emotional

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Speaker 1: fallout from losing the biggest game on the biggest stage.

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Speaker 1: It's the disease of me that can filter into the

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Speaker 1: locker room where everybody feels like they had a greater

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Speaker 1: part in the success than maybe they did. And so

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Speaker 1: when everyone is beginning to individually seek out their honors

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Speaker 1: and rewards as opposed to still keeping the focus on

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Speaker 1: the team, that's when things go wayward. And that's where

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Speaker 1: the Niners are. It wasn't just the injuries, it was mentally.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were in the right place from

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Speaker 1: the jump, and the product that they put on the

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Speaker 1: field was the product of a team that wasn't focused,

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Speaker 1: not together, And it's hard no matter how talented you are,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to overcome that, you know.

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Speaker 2: I see the same situation now developing in Cincinnati, being

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Speaker 2: with the Jamar Chase situation earlier in preseason. But now,

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Speaker 2: if you heard just the other day T Higgins fired

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Speaker 2: his agent. He's got the same agent as Jamar. So

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Speaker 2: these guys are going to put the stranglehold on management

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, and it kind of brings back shades of

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Speaker 2: weight back when I don't know how many people remember

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Speaker 2: this when Don Drysdale and Sandy Colfax pitched for the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers and they both sat out for more money and

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Speaker 2: they won. They won that deal. They just said, we

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Speaker 2: got together. And you know, powers is in numbers, strengths

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Speaker 2: in numbers, and basically with Chasing Higgins with the same agent,

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Speaker 2: which could be very interesting to see what happens in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're saying they have the same agent or

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Speaker 1: they used to have the same agent.

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Speaker 2: No, they know Higgins fired his agent. He's got the

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Speaker 2: same agent as Chase.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, now here's what happens. The Bengals have to

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Speaker 1: be very transparent with their transactions. Now, they like both

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Speaker 1: players will know exactly what they think about one another

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Speaker 1: and how the money works. And so before where they

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Speaker 1: could say one thing the t Higgins and something else

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Speaker 1: to de Marchase, they can't do that because the person

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Speaker 1: doing both negotiations knows the ggins and ounce about the thing,

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Speaker 1: and so he can make sure that it's done fairly.

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Speaker 1: Years ago in our industry, Mike and Mike, they operated

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Speaker 1: for so long but the same agent. They could always

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Speaker 1: make sure that both guys got exactly what they deserve.

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Speaker 1: It was only later when they split off one person

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Speaker 1: got a different agent that it became problematic to the negotiation.

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Speaker 1: This should help the players get what they want. Now

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati has to make a decision on what they want

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Speaker 1: to be. Do you want to be around Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: because you can pay both receivers if you want to,

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Speaker 1: and it would have been better if they paid them

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. But they can beat both guys

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Speaker 1: if they want. It's just a matter of what kind

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Speaker 1: of team does Cincinnati want to want to build. And

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Speaker 1: I know they don't have like fluid liquid money cash

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Speaker 1: like just out the wazoo like some of these franchises,

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Speaker 1: but they're ways around that part of it to be

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Speaker 1: able to make sure that your best players stay there,

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Speaker 1: because if you lose one of those guys, it changes

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Speaker 1: the dynamic of what that team is drastically.

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Speaker 2: And more than that, I think it changes to the

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Speaker 2: impression of the fan base. That's the key. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know they're worried about that too, the fan base. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: you got to keep Jamar Chase. I mean they would

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Speaker 2: have gotten last year maybe for thirty mili. He's going

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Speaker 2: to go up with forty mil now next year.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And I'll say this, and no one

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Speaker 1: may glean this from watching inside the FC North on

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, but the way that Mike Tomlin talked about

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, like, let you know how other coaches view

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Speaker 1: and how the opponents view Jamar Chase. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 1: way he can get out the building. But look, T

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Speaker 1: Higgins is also a nightmare to deal with, and he's

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Speaker 1: a monster that you have to defend. You had to

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Speaker 1: be interested to see what they do with that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those situations where you certainly hope that

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Speaker 1: they didn't let it come to this, right, but now

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Speaker 1: that we're here, they got to figure out how to

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Speaker 1: deal with it.

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Speaker 2: The only question with T Higgins, I gotta believe that

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Speaker 2: they may have some clause in his contract for games

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Speaker 2: played because he's been injured, injured very much. So maybe

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Speaker 2: they'll give him a deal where if you play X

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Speaker 2: amount of games, maybe an incentive cause in the contract.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, I don't know, but it'd be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean some of that might be included. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got to I mean you got to look at the history.

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Speaker 1: That's also a part of you just don't throw the cash.

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Speaker 1: You just don't get him the cash without like doing

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Speaker 1: the research and knowing exactly who he is and what

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Speaker 1: he going to be, because once you pay him, like

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Speaker 1: the things that you see, you only go see more

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Speaker 1: of And so you've got to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: like the player and the person that you're paying.

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Speaker 2: Right now, speaking of agents, you know Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: his mom is his agent, right, isn't that she represents him?

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Speaker 2: And the and the Ravens are playing the Giants today

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Speaker 2: at Medlife. The Giants are not won a game at Medlife.

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Speaker 2: To see, they lost eight straight. It should be much

647
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Speaker 2: of a game. But the quarterback, Lamar Jackson, his mom,

648
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Speaker 2: she cussed him out the other day for not running enough.

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Speaker 2: How do you like that? I read that? I picked

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Speaker 2: up Did you hear about that? Lamar Jackson did custom?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's unbelievable. So are we going to see

652
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Speaker 2: him run more now because mom told him to?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think so. But see, I think

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Speaker 1: this is a challenge that most dual threat quarterbacks have

655
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Speaker 1: is how do they stay true to who they are,

656
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Speaker 1: versus dealing with the temptation of trying to prove the

657
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Speaker 1: naysayer is wrong. Right, so all the outsiders will say,

658
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Speaker 1: there's not a quarterback taking win the Super Bowl who's

659
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Speaker 1: run from the pocket, Like no running quarterback has ever

660
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Speaker 1: won it. After you hear that so much, no matter

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Speaker 1: what any athlete says, you hear all the noise, there's

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Speaker 1: a part of you that wants to prove to people, no,

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Speaker 1: I can do all this thing I have. I'm a

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Speaker 1: multifaceted game. But is that always like it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: to your detriment sometimes, and so you just got to

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Speaker 1: resist the urge to kind of fall into that trap

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Speaker 1: when people kind of talk about those things and do

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Speaker 1: those things.

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Speaker 2: It's great the fans full of playing over a met

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Speaker 2: life last week calling the Giants a dumpster fire.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: It really is. I mean, that's the way they are

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Speaker 2: in New York and that's not gonna be much of

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Speaker 2: a game. The judge Jags, I think the Jazz got

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Speaker 2: a shot today. And the magic number I said coming

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Speaker 2: up too the segment fourteen. That's the number of years

677
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Speaker 2: that Jets have not been in the postseason. I think

678
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Speaker 2: the Jacks could get it done today. What do you

679
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Speaker 2: think I'd love to see it for? You really be

680
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Speaker 2: Tennessee last week could be two in a row.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they have a good chance two three

682
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Speaker 1: and team teams squaring off. I mean, yeah, you should

683
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Speaker 1: have a chance to get that. To me though, like

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Speaker 1: the Jags are coming to the game shorthanded. Evan Ingram's

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Speaker 1: on ir to go with Christian Kirk and Travis I mean,

686
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and all that. So look, you're not playing

687
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Speaker 1: with the A team, but no one cares at this

688
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Speaker 1: point they have to play. To me, I'm more curious

689
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Speaker 1: to see what this Jet squad looks like. Right. We

690
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Speaker 1: always hail them as one of the more talented teams.

691
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Speaker 1: We talk about their defense, we talk about the weapons

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Speaker 1: that they have on the outside, Garrett Wilson, and now

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Speaker 1: they have dv Adams added to that. I want to

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Speaker 1: get a look at Aaron Rodgers, and I want to

695
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Speaker 1: see is the regression real or is it the byproduct

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Speaker 1: of just not being surrounded by the right people up

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Speaker 1: front in those things. So to be an interesting matchup,

698
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Speaker 1: we'll get a chance to see which team plays with

699
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Speaker 1: more effort and energy because the scene that plays the

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Speaker 1: hard is gonna be ultimately the one that wins.

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Speaker 2: And the man to watch I think for the Jags

702
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Speaker 2: is Brian Thomas junior to wide receiver. As soon as

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Speaker 2: they get the full to him, they start scoring. That's

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Speaker 2: what they do. He's the guy.

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Speaker 1: He is one percent the guy, and he is the

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Speaker 1: dude that, like everyone is going to talk about in

707
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Speaker 1: this rookie classes man. Maybe he's the best wide receiver

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Speaker 1: of the group.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, Yeah, we'll get into that for sure. There's

710
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Speaker 2: talk about this Cowboy Panthers game. I mean, how did

711
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys make such a mental error after that block

712
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Speaker 2: punt in the Bengals game on Monday and night. How

713
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Speaker 2: do you not know the rules of the game. Well,

714
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Speaker 2: maybe most players don't know the rules. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Really, Look, I think a couple of things I play

716
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Speaker 1: like the rules in those things, like sometimes you know

717
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: because there's so different rules. It's the ball goes beyond

718
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage as opposed to if it stays

719
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Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage when it comes to picking

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Speaker 1: it up, touching it, and those things. So the rules

721
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Speaker 1: certainly need to be known. But in that moment, Andy,

722
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Speaker 1: everybody has a tendency to freeze and lock up. There

723
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Speaker 1: is something about the ball, man, It's almost as if

724
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Speaker 1: the ball is a pinata at a party, right, and

725
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Speaker 1: you just want to pop the pinyada, right, So you

726
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: just want to touch it, right, you just see it

727
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Speaker 1: and it's coming to you. Like man, I just want

728
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Speaker 1: to touch the bart like I never get a chance

729
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Speaker 1: to touch the ball, and so like its something is

730
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Speaker 1: kid like is that the ball is bouncing, here it goes,

731
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Speaker 1: it comes my way. I'm gonna pick up the ball

732
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go score. And sometimes it doesn't. The

733
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Speaker 1: best is of mice. Admit, they'll always work out.

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Speaker 2: I think they come back today against Carolina. I just

735
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Speaker 2: think they have a better defense, they have a better

736
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Speaker 2: pass rusher. I think that'll be it right there. But

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Speaker 2: now he is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. We are

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: he's got all the answers. Yes, that's ask Bucky, and

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Speaker 2: it's all yours next.

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Speaker 2: Ask Bucky right around the corner about twelve minutes now

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Speaker 2: before the top of the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Fox Bot's ready. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman,

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Speaker 2: and we are live from the tiraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Time for Ask Bucky. Let's get it going right now.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Bill Belichick, as you know, is a new coach

751
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: University of North Carolina. You're Almamada. One of the major

752
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: differences he's going to experience now from the pro game.

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Speaker 1: Well, a couple of different things. One the players, the

754
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: players are different. Dealing with a younger kid. You're dealing

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00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: with people who don't know as much about football as

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Speaker 1: the ones that you used to play. So the teaching

757
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: just has to be even more detailed, has to be

758
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Speaker 1: more comprehension when it comes to teaching the game. And

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00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: then you're dealing with all of the other elements around

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Speaker 1: the game, nil the ability to jump into transfer portal,

761
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: the intermediaries that control these players, that influence these players' decisions.

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Speaker 1: You have to find a way to deal with all

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Speaker 1: of that, and it appears to look he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: very directly be very similar to the way that he

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Speaker 1: was with the Patriots, So he just has to make

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Speaker 1: adjustments to that. But I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 1: change very much from who he was with the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is a multiple choice test. Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: Multiple choice?

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Speaker 1: All right? Love?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the pros, which NFL team is the worst?

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Speaker 2: Here are the choices. Carolina, Tennessee, the Giants, your Jags,

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Speaker 2: the Browns or the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Raiders, I'm doing well right now. The Giants are a

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Speaker 1: bit of a dumpster fire. Let's go to Giants. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Giants.

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Speaker 2: I kind of agree. I mean, they have no idea

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Speaker 2: who the quarterback is really I mean, it's ridiculous. So

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Speaker 2: the Giants aid the worst. Now which team?

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Speaker 1: Another?

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Speaker 2: Multiple choices for you? Which team should be feared the

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Speaker 2: most in the playoffs? Kansas City, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo or Baltimore And you could add someone if you

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 1: Which team should be feared I would say Detroit if

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Speaker 1: Detroit gets home field, just because they're so dangerous at home.

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Speaker 1: They are different animal. Dan Campbell has kind of just

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Speaker 1: unlocked the monster. I'm there, so I will say, let's

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Speaker 1: go to Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Miami Dolphins released their veteran wide receive Odell

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Speaker 2: Beckham Junior, just the other day. He signed the one year,

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Speaker 2: three million dollar deal with the Dolphins way back in May.

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Speaker 2: It's worth up tore about eight and a half million

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Speaker 2: with incentives. But he did have that knee surgery earlier

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Speaker 2: in the offseason and he was started the season the

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Speaker 2: physically unable to perform list. So is Odell Beckham is

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Speaker 2: his career over as he finished?

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Speaker 1: No, I think he gets one more opportunity. I think

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Speaker 1: it's another opportunity this year to close it out the

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Speaker 1: way that he wants to close it out. So, no,

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Speaker 1: it has not done. Odell continues to play, but in

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00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: a bit role. But I think it's only a handful

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Speaker 1: of teams that are in the mix. I would say

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Speaker 1: the Rams and the Ravens would be teams that know

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Speaker 1: him and kind of know how to build a roll

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Speaker 1: around him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the funny thing is is staying with that

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Speaker 2: for a second, I was really surprised that Dolphins even

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Speaker 2: picked him up. With guys like Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't think he was really needed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised, but I mean, I think they were

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Speaker 1: trying to create a situation where they didn't have any

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Speaker 1: weaknesses in the three receiver lineup, and you know, it

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Speaker 1: didn't work out. There was some value to bringing them in,

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Speaker 1: but look, I can't fault them for trying. It just

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Speaker 1: didn't work out, all right.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark was named the Time magazine Athlete of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Was it the right decision?

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Speaker 1: Look, look, I think it was pretty good. Like she

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Speaker 1: was one that commanded headlines, and I know there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that were mad at her stance

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Speaker 1: in what she said in the article about the diversity

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Speaker 1: of the league and how this league was built different ways.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like she's very deserving of the award because

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Speaker 1: she brought so many eyeballs to the game and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I look had tipped to her for doing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she should be recognized for her efforts and for the

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Speaker 1: attention that she brought to the game, the good attention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I'm gonna stay with this for a

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Speaker 2: second because I read a lot of stories about this

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Speaker 2: so called white privilege, and let's face it, the WNBA

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Speaker 2: to me is a black league, really, and she was great.

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Speaker 2: So she came out the quotes that I read about.

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Speaker 2: What she said was that the black women in that

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Speaker 2: league were the pioneers of that league and they are

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Speaker 2: there great players of that league. So I don't understand

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Speaker 2: of some report I forgot who it was. Basically called

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Speaker 2: it a white privilege. That's why she wanted. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, that's garbage and really and truly, I would

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Speaker 2: pray to God, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what Caitlyn Clark did she addressed the

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Speaker 1: white privilege like, she addressed it in a way that

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Speaker 1: like a lot of the attention and some of the

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Speaker 1: attention that she got was because she was the minority

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Speaker 1: in the league full of black women, and that some

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Speaker 1: of the adelation and adoration that goes her way. Some

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Speaker 1: of it was Mary base, but some of it was

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Speaker 1: because she was different and people were looking for someone

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Speaker 1: different to get behind, namely white people were looking for

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Speaker 1: someone different. So what she was trying to do was

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Speaker 1: acknowledge it. And then people got mad because she acknowledged

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Speaker 1: that fact, which puts her in a bad position because

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Speaker 1: you want people's opinion, but then you get mad when

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Speaker 1: you hear the opinion. But that's what she was addressing

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Speaker 1: and the piece.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would pray to God basically sports is

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Speaker 2: color blind, but I guess it's not.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I think that's an unrealistic picture, as

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Speaker 1: much as I would like for it to be right.

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Speaker 2: The Bucky Brooks looks at the NFL rookies, that and more.

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Speaker 2: You got the top rookies and Offensive Rookie of the

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Speaker 2: Year this week. How did you manage to put this

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Speaker 2: list together, it's played fairly difficult. Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean when you're looking at the ricky

878
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Speaker 1: pass catchers, you're looking at the guys that were drafted

879
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Speaker 1: at the top. I mean there were seven guys drafted

880
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Speaker 1: in the first round, ten taken within the first thirty

881
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Speaker 1: seven picks, and so there are a lot of pass

882
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Speaker 1: catchers to look at and check in on. And at

883
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Speaker 1: a time, what we felt like the league was having

884
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: a dramatic shift where wide receivers are becoming marquee players

885
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Speaker 1: on offense, premium pieces of the championship puzzle. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to take a look at some of these first year

887
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Speaker 1: players to see how they're doing. Is let's kind of

888
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: shake the bush to see if we had to rank

889
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: them all over again, who are the ones that are

890
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: playing the best on the field.

891
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: It's funny because the guy was drafted in the first round,

892
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: twenty third overall on YO Jacksonville Jaguars, and we talked

893
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: about him at earlier today, Brian Thomas Junior. He's averaging

894
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: almost sixteen yards a catch, and this guy is tremendous,

895
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: but on a team that really and truly is down

896
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: the dumps. But this guy has had one heck of

897
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: a year with twelve catches of twenty plus yards. And

898
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Speaker 2: you know what makes this guy so good? You say

899
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Speaker 2: he's the best of the lot.

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00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 1: He has everything, and he has everything and the things

901
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: that we couldn't uncover. He is a number one receiver

902
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: that can take the top off the defense. He can

903
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: play the vertical stretch game. He also can do all

904
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: the dirty work underneath. He's gifted in terms of just

905
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: the athleticism and pure talent that he displays as a

906
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: wild runner, has great ball skills, can separate. I mean,

907
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Speaker 1: he is I won't to say as perfect as they

908
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Speaker 1: come as a number one, but he has so many

909
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Speaker 1: intrigue and traits that you want to have on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: Just love his game and love how he's progressing. Look,

911
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Speaker 1: I'm biased because I see it every week, but this

912
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Speaker 1: dude is special.

913
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Speaker 2: It's amazing because he's now playing with Mac Jones. I mean,

914
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: he's Trevor Lawrence is even out and he's still doing

915
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: well and the team's not winning. That's gotta be disappointing,

916
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: you know, for everybody concerned. But I think the future

917
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: sort of looks bright for the Jacks right now with.

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Speaker 1: Him well, with him for sure, because he's a true

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Speaker 1: number one. They haven't had anybody of this caliber since

920
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith's days, and so that's a long time for

921
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Speaker 1: the people who are like Jenny cum Leads to the NFL.

922
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Speaker 1: This dude is every bit as good as the guys

923
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Speaker 1: that were taking at the top of the charts. He

924
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: is someone that you would expect to be in that

925
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Speaker 1: all pro conversation real early in his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and number two, the guy was drafted in Round two,

927
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Speaker 2: thirty fourth pick overall. Plays for the Los Angeles Chargers,

928
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Speaker 2: And that's kind of a strange situation because that team

929
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: right now is run oriented and defensive minded. But Lad McConkie,

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's a guy right now he's averaging what

931
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: about almost fifteen yards of catch as well, he's got

932
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: four touchdowns. But again, a team that really and truly

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Speaker 2: does not look at the past. I think they'd run

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Speaker 2: for us and past next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Lad mcconki is interesting because there's some people

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Speaker 1: that are probably shocked that he would be up there.

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Speaker 1: But when you watch the Chargers play, he's their number

938
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Speaker 1: one receiver. He can move inside and outside. He does

939
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: everything for him in terms of being a chain mover.

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Speaker 1: You see the numbers. Look, this dude is not just

941
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Speaker 1: a dink and dunk catch playmaker. This guy makes plays

942
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: down the field. He is justin Herbert's trusted target when

943
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Speaker 1: they in cruse your moments. And as a rookie, he

944
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: just plays, I would say, like a poise and an

945
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Speaker 1: expertise that is beyond his experience, which is why he's

946
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Speaker 1: second on the list.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny we got the first two guys.

948
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Speaker 2: The Chargers are basically a playoff contender. I mean, they're

949
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Speaker 2: not gonna go deep, I don't think in the playoffs,

950
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Speaker 2: but they'll they'll make the playoffs. First team Jacksonville. They're

951
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Speaker 2: out of it now. I got number three guy drafted

952
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Speaker 2: in Round one, six pickoverall, Molakue neighbors for the Giants. Again,

953
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Speaker 2: a losing team and basically maybe the worst team in

954
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Speaker 2: the National Football League. I mean, you basically think they are.

955
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: I think they are too. A lot of frustrations. Again,

956
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: not much of a quarterback combination with him on that

957
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: team this year, but right now he leads all the

958
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: rookie whiteouts and catches with eighty ranked second receiving guards

959
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: with eight nineteen which is amazing. I mean, those stats

960
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: are amazing considering he does have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those those numbers are amazing. But he's also the

962
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: most targeted wide receiver of all the rookies, right Like,

963
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean he has over one hundred and twenty six

964
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven targets and his catch rate is

965
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Speaker 1: just look as just at like fifty percent, So he's

966
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Speaker 1: not cashing out fully on the opportunities and some of

967
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: that look shoddy quarterback play we can talk about, uh,

968
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Drew Locke, Tommy Cutlet's like he hasn't played

969
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: with elite quarterbacks, but there's still something that is a

970
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: little missing his game. I think maybe it's the emotional

971
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: outburst after the game. Just he has to be able

972
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: to rein that in talented player, competitive love, all that

973
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: other stuff, but he has to be able to lock

974
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: in and focus because sometimes he can come off a

975
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: selfish and I don't know, man at this time and age,

976
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: if you want that kind of player consistently barking about

977
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: the ball when you're really trying to put the team

978
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Speaker 1: in a position to.

979
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Speaker 2: Win games, you know, I look at elite Neighbors went

980
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: to LSU, Justin Jefferson LSU, Jamar Chase LSU? Does that?

981
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: Is that the coincidence?

982
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Or is that school wide receiver? You?

983
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in Penn State, used to be linebacker,

984
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: you right? I mean, and what is the deal?

985
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Is that?

986
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: What they go after that? Looking at the wide receivers

987
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: over there?

988
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, I think one is a very talented

989
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: and fertile area when it comes to elite level athletes.

990
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: And if you go all the way back, I mean

991
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior, Jarvis Landry, those guys, LSU Tagers, and

992
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. Look, I think there's

993
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: the allure, there's the cachet, and sometimes, like it's a

994
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: copycat situation, recruits want to go to where they see

995
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: other guys that have had successes or positions. LSU has

996
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: been one of those schools.

997
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Interesting now going down to number four, and this is

998
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: kind of amazing because this is the one guy when

999
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: drafted they thought he would be the number one guy period.

1000
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: He was drafted round one, fourth pick overall. We thought

1001
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: about Marvin Harrison Junior of the Arizona Cardinals, and you know,

1002
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: really a little bit of a disappointment, really I expected more.

1003
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people did too. Forty five receptions,

1004
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: six fifty five yards, seven touchdowns, eighty six targets, and honestly,

1005
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: here's the guy that everybody flip would really shot O records,

1006
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: be Rookie of the Year, whatever it may be. He

1007
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 2: only top the one hundred yard mark twice this year.

1008
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say this because I felt like

1009
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: sometimes when I go back and I reread what I

1010
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: wrote about it, like it comes off as a little harsh.

1011
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: I would say this based on the expectations and the

1012
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: height they proceeded. Marvin Harrison's arrival this year would be

1013
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a disappointment. He hasn't dominated on the

1014
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: perimeter like many of us expected that he would dominate.

1015
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Some of that is he's seeing double covers, he's seeing

1016
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: loaded zones and things that are taking his free access

1017
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: to space away. But the elite wide receivers they work

1018
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: around that. That's kind of your badge of honor as

1019
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: a number one receiver. You just want to see more consistency.

1020
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: You want to see him put up more robust numbers.

1021
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Because of all the situations that we've talked about, like

1022
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: justin Herbert's there, But you would like to think that

1023
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Caler Murray is in a pretty good quarterback. Caler Murrays

1024
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: the top ten quarterback that you would think that they

1025
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: would be able to produce at a greater level, and

1026
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: it just hasn't happened. And some of that is not

1027
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: only due to quarterback, but some of that falls on

1028
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: the shoulders of Martin Harrison Jr.

1029
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back now to a round one,

1030
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: number nine pick. Overall, he's your fifth guy as far

1031
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: as receiving guy first year guys, Romeo Donze for the

1032
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, and they didn't really have much of a

1033
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: chance to do much because you had a roster with

1034
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. I mean, so he wasn't

1035
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: going to get much with a rookie quarterback and Williams.

1036
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: So again he didn't do much on a team that

1037
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: hasn't done much.

1038
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like the team has been a mess.

1039
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: The offense situation was a mess. You couldn't figure out

1040
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: what was going on with Saint Shane Wald and they

1041
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: fired the coach. They fired the head coach. After that,

1042
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Thomas Brown takes over and so it's just a lot

1043
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: of stuff in flux with that, like that's it, you

1044
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: steal roma. Dunze is talented, he makes plays. He hasn't

1045
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: necessarily had the chances or the opportunities that some of

1046
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: or that we thought because everyone remember back in the preseason, Man,

1047
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: this team may never never punt, they're so talented. That

1048
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: has not been true. They have punted quite a bit. Man,

1049
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: He's been he's been fine, he's been solid, and so

1050
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: he gets to fifth slot over some other guys that

1051
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: certainly we're in consideration.

1052
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: Okay, now, if I'm not mistaken it, but I do

1053
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: believe that you thought that maybe you picked do you

1054
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: wrote about this that brought Bowers from the Las Vegas

1055
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 2: Range is going to be the offensive rookie of the year.

1056
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: The tight end should have said you a pick? Okay,

1057
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: should be sure dominant to tell me why. And I

1058
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: got an argument with you on that.

1059
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: One leads all tight ends, every tight end rookie veteran,

1060
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: leads them all, targets yards, catches all that on pace

1061
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: to break Mike Dickens's record for yards by a rookie,

1062
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: like goes way all the way back to I think

1063
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one. I mean, he is a dominant player.

1064
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: He is exactly what many of us thought that he

1065
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: would be as the best in the draft. He has

1066
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: lived up to that. He is someone that there is

1067
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: nothing around him, nobody around him to take away, to

1068
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: divert some of the attention on him, yet he consistently produces.

1069
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: You remember what I said about Marvin Harrison Junior and

1070
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: what the expectation is when you're a dominant player, how

1071
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: you consistently put up these numbers. That's what brock Bowers

1072
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: has done. And so to me, it's an easy conversation

1073
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: when it comes to Offense river of the Year. Look,

1074
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: brock Bowers should be first, second, and third. The other

1075
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: guys have had moments. This dude just has a season.

1076
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: That's why he deserves the honor.

1077
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: Again playing on a real bad team, right, I mean,

1078
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: which is an amazing, terrible, terrible. Now here's my argument

1079
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 2: to if brock Bowers could or should win the Offensive

1080
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, why can't Joe Burrow win the MVP.

1081
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow leaves the NFL with thirty three touchdown passes.

1082
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow has three thousand, seven d and six passing

1083
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 2: yards two hundred eighty five point one yards per game

1084
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: is one on seven point nine passing rating ranks fourth

1085
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: behind two of the top three candidates. Four point one

1086
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: quarter about writing ranks second behind the leader in the

1087
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: clubhouse for the award this season. All right, why can't

1088
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: he be in the conversation for MVP, which he's not.

1089
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: I get it. The team is five and eight, but

1090
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 2: still in all it's all about stats. And now I've

1091
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: seen the stats with Bowers on a bad team. Burrow's

1092
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: got the stats on a bad team. And I don't

1093
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 2: know why they're talking about now Josh Allen has moved

1094
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: into the MVP's conversation. I don't understand it. I really don't.

1095
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: Look, Joe Burrows certainly should be in the conversation. The

1096
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: numbers are what the numbers are. His numbers s exceed

1097
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen's numbers are. I would say that you

1098
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: could have the argument about Josh Allen MVP and do

1099
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: we feel sympathetic to Josh Allen because he's never won it?

1100
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: To me, the really MVP of Saquon Bark, right, say,

1101
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: kwarn Bark is a guy who deserve I mean, like,

1102
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: if you look at.

1103
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: Then they'll probably give them the Offensive Player of the

1104
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: Year award.

1105
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, but he should be the most

1106
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: valuable player when you look at it. If that goes

1107
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: to the best player, he should get that. I mean,

1108
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred yards already in those things. But to your

1109
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: point about Joe Burrow, yeah, Joe Burrow should be in

1110
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: the conversation. They just haven't won enough for people to

1111
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: feel like his impact legitimizes him winning the award. But

1112
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: he certainly should be in the conversation.

1113
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: All right. Speaking of Joe Borrow, the Bengals are playing

1114
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. That they're playing the Titans, and I said

1115
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: it was the Master versus the Apprentice today with Zach

1116
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Taylor who's the Master, and his former offensive coordinator Brian

1117
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: Callahan as the head coach at Tennessee. I get it.

1118
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, people are going to say, well, why would

1119
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: he go to Tennessee. It's a dumpster fire as well

1120
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: three in ten Look, there's only a certain amount of

1121
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: jobs that are head jobs available in the National Football League.

1122
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: You got a chance to run your show and be

1123
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: a head coach, you gonna go. And that's what he did,

1124
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: and hopefully they'll turn it around to Tennessee with Callahan's

1125
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: a pretty good guy. But the Bengals, as I mentioned,

1126
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 2: Burrow and Chase, how far can these two guys take them?

1127
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: I got to believe that A they need better defense

1128
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: and better defensive players, and B they need a running game.

1129
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you cannot win on the Borrow and Chase,

1130
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: and that's basically what they do. And I watched the

1131
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: football game I think it was Thursday night. I don't

1132
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: know who it was, maybe Kurt herb Street or someone

1133
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: mentioned during the game that the Bengals basically don't have

1134
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: many screenplays. Draw plays is just basically run out, get

1135
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: over there, get free, Chase, and I'll throw you the ball.

1136
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: That's what they do.

1137
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you would like to see more creativity

1138
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: and ingenuity from the mingos. It's not always there, and

1139
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: I understand that.

1140
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: Man.

1141
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: Look it's a hard deal. Man, it's hard calling plays,

1142
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: it's hard getting your team ready to play each week,

1143
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: all of those things. You just would like to see

1144
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: a little more from a squad that so much was

1145
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: expected of. And for this team, the defense hasn't played great.

1146
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: But sometimes the defense doesn't play well because the offense

1147
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: puts them in bad situations. And those things. I would

1148
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: just say, it's just overall in Cincinnati, it's been a

1149
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: huge disappointment, particularly when you think about what was expected

1150
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: of still doesn't how to steal is currently at top

1151
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: of division, you're dealing with the Baltimore Ravens. The Browns

1152
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: didn't materialize to be the team that some thought, namely me.

1153
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: So you would like to think that the Bengers would

1154
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: be better, and they just haven't been able to get

1155
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: out their own way.

1156
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 2: You know, again, I put on my finger, and certainly

1157
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: coaches are always responsible. I mean, team doesn't win, the

1158
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: coach loses his job. That's basically going. It's all about.

1159
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: I have no problem with Zach Taylor as a person,

1160
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: you know, I see him. I've gone to meetings and

1161
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: I've seen luncheons whatever it may be, always congenial. I

1162
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: just a good guy. I have a problem with him

1163
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: as a head coach. I just I don't think he

1164
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: commands the respect and gets the most out of his players.

1165
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 2: As to Mike Tomas, Mike Tomlin like squeezes these players

1166
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: like a sponge and gets every drop of water out

1167
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: of them. And he does, and to some extent, I

1168
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: think they fear him and I don't think that these

1169
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: players fear Zac Tailor, and I know you cannot be

1170
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: feared if you don't have that in your makeup and

1171
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: then your personality. You know, the certain coaches, you just

1172
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: have to be yourself. And I remember watching coaches over

1173
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: the years. If you're not that kind of a guy,

1174
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: don't try to be that kind of guy. But Zach Taylor,

1175
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: I think they need a guy who could crack the whip.

1176
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: And I think if Toma was coaching Cincinnati, they would win.

1177
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: I really believe that.

1178
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I think that speaks to

1179
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: the special nature dispesionist of Mike Tomlin. I would say

1180
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: with Zach Taylor, like you have to coach to your personality,

1181
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: and his personality is his personality. He may not be

1182
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: the most demonstrative, he's not a yelling screamer in those things,

1183
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: but he has to continue to coach to that and

1184
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: the things that he believes in the things that he

1185
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: wants emphasized, those are still winning characteristicsts. I don't want

1186
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: to dismiss him because he led the Bengals to a

1187
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, then in fact, they probably should have won

1188
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: a super Bowl if not for a call down in

1189
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: the end zone that gave the Rams some extra downs.

1190
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: To say that Bengals could have been a super Bowl

1191
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: winner under Zach Taylor. So I'm gonna give him his due.

1192
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: He just has a different style than I would say

1193
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: the traditional stereotypical NFL head coach, right, And.

1194
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: You know what, you hit it on the head. You

1195
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: cannot change your personality. You got to be what you are.

1196
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: For example, I remember going back to Marv Levy. Marv

1197
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: Levy who coached the Buffalo Bills and they lost what

1198
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: four Super Bowls. I mean, here's a gentleman. I can

1199
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: never see Marv Levy raising his voice, but he got

1200
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: the most out of his players. But because he was himself,

1201
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: he was real. That's basically what it was. That Tony

1202
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: Dungee the same thing. I don't think Tony Dungee probably

1203
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: used the cuss word. I just don't think he did.

1204
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: But you know, he was a successful coach. You got

1205
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: to be what you are and that's it. So you know,

1206
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: and I just think that I know what Zach Taylor is,

1207
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: but I think this team needs someone who could crack through.

1208
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: It was a little tougher, but I think today the

1209
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: Bengals are just a better team than Tennessee, and I

1210
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: think the game is more important for Cincinnati. So I

1211
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: think Cincinnati wins that game. And speaking of Tennessee. In

1212
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: Week thirteen, the Washington Commanders rush for almost two hundred

1213
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: and seventy yards beating up on the Titans. Today they

1214
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: play the Saints, the Saints Commander Saints. I think the

1215
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: Commanders are playing for an NFC playoff spot, means more

1216
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: to them. The Saints are giving up almost five yards

1217
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: of carry. I think Commanders win that game today.

1218
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marshall A. Lottimore has an opportunity to return against

1219
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: his former team. He's going to be motivated and fired up.

1220
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: The command is go time. You know, not that they're

1221
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: locked in the postseason, but it's time for them to

1222
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: make a push. If they're going to be a team

1223
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: that gets into the tournament, has an opportunity to do

1224
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: some damage. They got to start playing well. They got

1225
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: to put it together. We want to see Jay Nanews

1226
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: get back to playing the way that we saw him

1227
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: and fell in love with him early in the year.

1228
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: The rib injuries impacted that, but now you should be

1229
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: kind of be coming out of that part of it.

1230
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: He has to get back to being a special player,

1231
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: because as he goes, they go right.

1232
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: Chiefs today are in Cleveland, Chiefs twelve and one. They

1233
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: played in the Browns three and ten. The Chiefs have

1234
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: ten one score games last week nineteen seventeen over the

1235
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: Charge's less second field goal. Bucky Brooks is at luck,

1236
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: or they just play good enough to win, or maybe

1237
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: the cards just falling their way. I don't get it.

1238
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: I really don't. Although as one score games in the

1239
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: last second games, I mean, wow, I mean they'll they'll

1240
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: beat Cleveland today. But you gotta win by more than

1241
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: a field goal. You gotta win double digits. You got

1242
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: to prove that you're as good as you think you are.

1243
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Do you gotta win by more than that. I think

1244
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: you know. They just keep winning. They just keep winning

1245
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: like the rules of the game. So you just got

1246
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: to finish the game with more points than the opponent.

1247
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: They found a way to do it. It is nerve wracking.

1248
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: And there's a bit of this mystique that's around the

1249
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: Can't see the Chiefs where people talking about how lucky

1250
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: they are and those things, and right, lady luck. It's

1251
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: been on their side in some instances, but I don't

1252
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: think you can dismiss how good they are in the clutch,

1253
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: especially when number fifteen gets his hands on the ball.

1254
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean they are Look, man, they're dangerousing you.

1255
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: The look I would say if I'm the offensive Corditty

1256
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: defenseive coordinator. I mean, if I'm a Skaggs in Kansas City.

1257
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: What do you gotta do? You put pressure on Jameis Winston.

1258
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: Why because he throws picks. I don't care how much

1259
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: he prays to God, please don't let me throw a pick. Really,

1260
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: he'll throw the picks. So you put pressure on Jameis today.

1261
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: He'll throw picks, right, I mean, but after the game,

1262
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: will say it again, I'm praying. I'm not praying enough. Wow.

1263
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you will put the ball in

1264
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 1: harm's way. You have to know that. But you also

1265
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: have to know that he's dangerous. He gives it and

1266
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: he takes it away. He is going to put the

1267
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: ball in tight windows. He is going to give his

1268
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: guys every opportunity to win the game. You just got

1269
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: to make the plays that are there because the erran

1270
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: throws you have to catch. You have to turn those

1271
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: errant throws into turnovers.

1272
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: Interesting stat though in the last three games, Patrick Mahomes

1273
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: has been stacked thirteen times, so Miles Garrett could be

1274
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: chopping at the bit. Today's tie for second most sacks

1275
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: in the league eleven. So we'll see what happens. But

1276
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: that's that's something, you know, that statistic, you know, we

1277
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: have to really look into it because maybe he's holding

1278
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: onto the ball a little too long. You know, it's

1279
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: not a negative at time against the offensive line, but

1280
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: maybe he's just holding onto the ball. Tool. You got

1281
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Speaker 2: to see the tape to really justify that statistic that

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Speaker 2: he's been sacked thirteen times the list three games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got look at the tape. He is holding

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Speaker 1: onto the ball a long time. But sometimes that offensive

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Speaker 1: line sometimes that's the wide receiver is not uncovering. There

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Speaker 1: a lot of factors that go into sacks, right.

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Speaker 2: But we do luck Kansas City today. They will win

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Speaker 2: today in Cleveland. All right, we roll on right now

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Speaker 2: on X you can get Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: at Andy from an FSR or Mike Harmon joins us.

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Speaker 2: In the next hour. You get him at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 2: Betty Yet eight seven seven ninety nine O one Fox.

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Speaker 2: That's our number and if you're too stupid to figure

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Speaker 2: that out, I'll translate it for you. Eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. They got botto

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Speaker 2: barrel betting in this hour. We've got the Swollen Dome

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Speaker 2: himself Mike Harmon an hour number three. But right now

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Speaker 2: one NFL team is living on borrow time. We'll tell

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Speaker 2: you all about it next Hey, playoff preview that's coming

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Speaker 2: right up. He is my guy, Bucky Brooks. I'm iny

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Speaker 2: You'll see this show Fox Football Sunday after we get

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Speaker 2: off the air. All right, we got bottom barrew betting

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Speaker 2: at about twelve to thirteen minutes for now. But right

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Speaker 2: now we got the Dolphins playing at the Texans. Eight

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Speaker 2: and five Dolphins six and seven Texans. A little bit

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Speaker 2: of a disappointment this year. We expect a little bit

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Speaker 2: more of that. But the Dolphins struggled last week against

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Speaker 2: the bad Jets team Texans wide receiver and Nico Collins

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Speaker 2: averaging more than one hundred yards a game. The Dolphins

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Speaker 2: run game is hurting the Dolphins. Obviously. I said it's

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Speaker 2: a playoff preview, but they're living on borrow time for

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, so I would have to think that Texans

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Speaker 2: win this one. Although dway that Dophins played last week.

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Speaker 2: As the judge, I gotta believe that Texans win this one.

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Speaker 1: I think the Texans understand they got to turn it up.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're in line to win the division. Like

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Speaker 1: that's not necessarily thing, but if they want to be

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Speaker 1: a team that contends for the title, they have to

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Speaker 1: play better. They haven't played great all year and they

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Speaker 1: have to do it without Aziz el Shahir for the

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Speaker 1: next three games. This will be an opportunity for them

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Speaker 1: to get back on track. They're coming off of bidweek.

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Speaker 1: The last time we saw the Texas, they look like

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Speaker 1: a tired team. The bye week should have given them

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Speaker 1: a chance to reset, recover, refocus, and to get back

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Speaker 1: on track. I expect see a much better game because

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Speaker 1: they've had what two weeks off, we should start seeing

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Speaker 1: the best version of the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Right by the way, I gotta mention, we're live Forthtiraq

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Speaker 2: dot Com Studio, so we roll along right now. And

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Speaker 2: speaking of the playoffs, which are right around the bend

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Speaker 2: right now, the Colts are playing at the Denver Broncos today.

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Speaker 2: Broncos a bit of a surprise, Chan Payne making some

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Speaker 2: votes for Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, look, deservedly so. What he's

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: done with bow next, what he's done with the team.

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Speaker 1: This team is Look, they one win from clinch and

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Speaker 1: being over five hundred, They've exceeded expectations. He's done a

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Speaker 1: really good job with bo nex bow Knicks playing well.

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Speaker 1: Boll Knicks's in the conversations offensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: That tells you all that you need to know about

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Speaker 1: the job that Sean Payton has done. He has really

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01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: gotten this team to play well ahead of schedule. He

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Speaker 1: should be in consideration. But I'll say this, Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: has an opportunity to take that award just because of

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Speaker 1: what the Pittsburgh Steals have done. And I'm a firm believer.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't watched Hard Knox. Hard Knox has made

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Speaker 1: it very easy to fall in love with Mike Tomlin.

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01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: That sentiment could leak into the way to voters make decisions.

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Speaker 1: If the Pittsburgh still is win the division and finished

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Speaker 1: with twelve more wins, Mike Tomlin might get the award.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, though, He's another guy that we

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Speaker 2: got to mention. Kevin O'Connell Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He's been playing great too. I mean he's been he's

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Speaker 1: been coaching the tel off. This team is playing well.

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Speaker 1: He's done with Sam Donald. Sam Donald having I think

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Speaker 1: eleven games with a passer rating over one hundred. Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald playing at a level where now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: him being a forty million dollars quarterback. You have the

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Speaker 1: weapons around Sam Donald are terrific, but Kevin O'Connell does

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Speaker 1: a lot of and he does a lot of creative

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Speaker 1: things to make the game easy for the quarterback. You

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Speaker 1: couple that with the way the defense is playing in

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Speaker 1: Brian Floyd's and even though Brian Floyd's deserves credit, Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connor's the head coach. He brought Floyd's in. He's in

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Speaker 1: the conversation too.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting really well. Now we got a mention

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Speaker 2: Colts at Broncos. If the Broncos win, they're all but

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. If they lose and the Colts take

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Speaker 2: the lead on the final spot in the AFC, they

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Speaker 2: got Tennessee, the Giants and Jackson were left on their

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01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: schedule the Colts too, so they sort of have an

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Speaker 2: easy road to hoe down the stretch. But Broncos went today.

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Speaker 2: It looks like they'll be in the playoffs. Broncos have

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Speaker 2: forty seven sacks. We talk about their offensive Siarte of

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Speaker 2: the ball, forty seven sacks on the season. So what

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Speaker 2: do they do? I would say, if I'm the core,

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Speaker 2: the little pressure on Anthony Richardson today, that's what you

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Speaker 2: gotta do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta put pressure on Anthony Anthony versus is

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Speaker 1: shown that he'll turned the ball over. He will turn

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Speaker 1: the ball over. You want to put pressure on him.

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Speaker 1: You want to keep the pressure on him and see

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Speaker 1: if he can take care of the ball, if he

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Speaker 1: can handle it in those key moments. So yeah, I

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: think it is a great plan. Put pressure on him,

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Speaker 1: making young guy have to win it.

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Speaker 2: Broncos put up some points today. I think they went big,

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Speaker 2: like thirty one twenty eight, something like that, thirty one

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Speaker 2: eighteen that Broncos win Bronconcuiti's in Denver. They're crazy in Denver.

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Speaker 2: They really are Patriots. I'm trying. I'm trying by vest

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Speaker 2: Patriots at the Cardinals today. Cardinals six and seven, little disappointing, right,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals have lost three straight. I can't believe it. Patzla

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01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: have lost four out of five. Patrick's the Patriots quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Drake May. You're a guy from North Carolina. He's thrown

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Speaker 2: for more than one touchdown at just three of eight stars.

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01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: Not good, but again, who's he gonna throw it to?

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Speaker 2: That's the key. People look at stats and good Drake

1406
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: made well, he has no one. It's a running game.

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Speaker 2: That's basically what that team is. One running back and

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Speaker 2: that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so here's what I say. The Cardinals

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: have kind of max out who they are, but great

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Speaker 1: chance for them. I'm excited to see what Drake May

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Speaker 1: does to finish the year. Can he finish the year

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Speaker 1: with the band? Can he finish the year? Kind of

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Speaker 1: teasing us in terms of what's to come, they said,

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Speaker 1: this is year, wanted to rebuilding project. Next year, they'll

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Speaker 1: really focus on surrounding with the weapons that he needs

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Speaker 1: to flourish. Let's see if he can steal one. Let's

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Speaker 1: see if he can play well enough to beat the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to Patriots on this one just to see.

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Speaker 2: Really, I tell you why they got some dog games today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly they got to. Really they got The

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01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: schedule today is like this is what al Michaels would

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Speaker 2: usually get on a Thursday night. Some of these games.

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Speaker 2: Really it's terrible, it really is. But the Cardinals right now,

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Speaker 2: they're running back James Connor. He needs one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty seven rushing yards to get a thousand. This year,

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Speaker 2: they got to win to keep the playoffs a lot,

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Speaker 2: so obviously the game means more if the Arizona game

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Speaker 2: is in Arizona. I take the Cardinals in this one,

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Speaker 2: but very very close. I mean like a field goal

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Speaker 2: maybe something like seventeen to fourteen win today, Cardinals, something

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Speaker 2: like that. I think the Cardinals do win that game.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a goodie. Finally, we get the late game

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Speaker 2: today on the East Coast on CBS about four point

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Speaker 2: thirty this say, after in Eastern Time. The Bills ten

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Speaker 2: and three at the Lions twelve and one. But here's

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Speaker 2: the deal. Can the Bills defense slow down this Lions

1438
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: offensive machine? Know what can happened last week with the

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Speaker 2: Rams forty four to forty two over the Bills. Can

1440
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Speaker 2: they do it? That's the key right in there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if, if the if the Bills can

1442
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: stop the Lions offense, I don't know. It could be

1443
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Speaker 2: a shootout today. But I love the Lions, and you

1444
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,479
Speaker 2: know what, give them injury left and injury right. They

1445
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: keep on winning. I mean, they lose plays every single week,

1446
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Speaker 2: but they keep on winning.

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01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: They do find a way to keep on winning, right.

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01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: It is amazing how they're able to do it. They

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: find various ways to keep on to keep on winning.

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01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: I feel you know that. I like what you're saying

1451
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: about them. The Lions had been beat up, banged up,

1452
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: But this Bills team is vulnerable against teams that play

1453
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: a very physical style meeting. They run right at them.

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01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: Big physical offensive line from the Lions gives them a

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01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: big advantage. I'm gonna go to the Lions because the

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: Lions are at home. I'm going to the Lions in

1457
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Speaker 1: this one.

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Speaker 2: Not only do I want the Lions to win, and

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: not only do I think the Lions will win, I

1460
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: want to see Josh Allen throw four picks today because

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Speaker 2: I want to see Joe Burrow win the a VP. Really,

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Speaker 2: I'd like I want to see win the MVP. Get

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's name out of the conversation with MVP. If

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01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: the Lions could beat them badly, and if Allum that

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Speaker 2: maybe two to three picks, I don't think he's gonna

1466
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: throw four picks, two or three picks today. I'd love

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: to see that, and all of a sudden, Joe Burrow

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: throws for three hundred yards today and three touchdowns, and

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Joe Borrow's name is up there.

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01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: At least they could salvage something in a terrible season.

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01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 2: Although the Bengals still have three percent chance they claim

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: on the Fox deal. The Fox charts there, so you

1473
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: had three percent chance to make the playoffs. But I

1474
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 2: want to see Joe Burrow gets something. I mean, he's

1475
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: had a rough week. They robbed his house. I mean,

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: come on, he's on a bad team. I mean, everything

1477
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: that's gone wrong for him. Give him the m v

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 2: P trophy. At least do that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, hater in the building. It's such a hater, Andy,

1480
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Speaker 1: I did not know your hated.

1481
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: Really, you could look at me. I'm a homer. I

1482
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: want to see Joe Burrow do well. I mean, I

1483
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: don't hate Josh Allen, but if if Joe Burrow could

1484
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: get the m v P, it sounds like if Josh

1485
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: Allen's mistakes would be great.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like a lot of hate coming out of there,

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: and it sounded like it sounds like there's a lot

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: of positivity, and it sounded like some hate that was

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Speaker 1: coming from there. But I'm gonna let you beat you.

1490
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: I'll let you go and do your think. But I

1491
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: worry about that Josh Allen to me, I think this

1492
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: is when Josh Allen makes a play to be the MVP.

1493
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: He understands what's on the line, he understands what's a stake.

1494
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: This is when he needs to make his move. He

1495
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: has to make his push if he's going to be

1496
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: the dude. The only way for him to do it

1497
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: is to have a big game on a major stage.

1498
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: This is a major stage because everyone is looking at

1499
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: the number one team in the league. The Detroit Lions.

1500
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: If he pulls this off on the heels of what

1501
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 1: he did versus the rams Man, you might sort of

1502
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: etch his name on the MVP Trophy. Big win would

1503
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: be in order if I still like the lines of

1504
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: this one.

1505
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: Right, And you've always said it's a bit of a

1506
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: copycat league, right, So I'm looking at the Detroit Lions,

1507
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: and they got perhaps the best one two running combination

1508
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: in the league at Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery. Okay,

1509
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: so obviously you would think other teams would want to

1510
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: get a one to two running combination, and they don't.

1511
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know most look at Dallas, they don't

1512
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: even have a running combiny. I mean, you know the Bengals.

1513
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,879
Speaker 2: I mean, this kid Chase, but you got to get runners,

1514
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: and especially this time of the year. I know Detroit

1515
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: plays indoors, but this time of the year and the

1516
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: cold weather, you cannot have a a top notch passing

1517
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: game in a blizzard. You need to run the football

1518
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: and most teams don't do it. Look what the Detroit

1519
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: lines are doing. They winning on tough defense and a

1520
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 2: great run game. And the quarterback has really done well.

1521
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: And he may be involved with the MVP conversation as

1522
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: well golf. But you know, you got to get the

1523
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: running combination, and Detroit's got it and Buffalo's trying to

1524
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: get it now. They're trying to develop it right now.

1525
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: But I just think Detroit has it all. They knew

1526
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: what they were doing, and some guys and some teams

1527
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: you would think. I mean again, I'll go back to

1528
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: the Giants you get rid of, say Kwon Barkley, Are

1529
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: you kidding? How do you do that? Really? It doesn't

1530
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 2: make any.

1531
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: Sense, It doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. But

1532
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this about the lines. The lines certainly have

1533
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: everything going on. The One thing that you worry about

1534
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: with the Lions the injuries, the a culative effect of

1535
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: losing so many guys, uh defensively eight Hutchinson for some

1536
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,879
Speaker 1: of the other guys that they've lost. You just worry

1537
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: about that impact act on them. There's no doubt that

1538
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: they're a good team, that they're a dynamic team if

1539
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: they can do it offensively in a bunch of different ways.

1540
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: But at some point, man, when you're playing these better teams,

1541
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: it catches up with you, and I just wonder how

1542
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: long before it catches up with them.

1543
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a million dollar question. At least in my mind.

1544
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a million dollar question. Would they be

1545
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: as good as they are with this personnel they have

1546
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: but without Dan Campbell as coach?

1547
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: No, because I think Dan Campbell said the foundation with

1548
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: the culture, they're a tough, gritty team because he's a tough,

1549
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: gritty coach. Team. It takes on the personality of the coach.

1550
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: And so if the coach is a tough guy and

1551
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: demands toughness from his team, the team is gonna be tough. Now,

1552
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: they would not be what they were, And anyone who

1553
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: thinks they can replicate it has to make sure that

1554
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: they have a coach that is as grizzled, as is confident,

1555
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: as as fearless as Dan Campbell. Otherwise it doesn't work.

1556
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: And it's funny. We were talking about potential Coaches of

1557
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: the Year, You toad Ja, Mike Tomlin. We told Sean Payton,

1558
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: we did Kevin O'Connell. We didn't mentioned Dan Campbell.

1559
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: Did he win it last year? Though you could win

1560
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: it last year.

1561
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: I believe he doesn't know.

1562
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. If we don't know, if

1563
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: we give it the coaches back to back. I mean,

1564
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: once she establishes great and I know it's not fair, right,

1565
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like the new the guy that

1566
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: surpassed expectations. We expected the lines to be good this year.

1567
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't exceed expectations. He's done a great

1568
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 1: job and if he hasn't won it, he should certainly

1569
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: win it. But I thought we kind of expected this.

1570
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: It'll be a tough vote. I mean, it'd be an

1571
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: interesting vote, But I think there's games coming down the

1572
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: stretch right now may decide in fact who's going to

1573
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: get I mean, I look, you look at Buffalo with

1574
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: that coaching staff, I mean, is he is he deserving

1575
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: of it? I don't know. I just don't know. I mean,

1576
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: they lose today, that's a big loss. Buffalo goes to

1577
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 2: ten and four, big loss. If they lose, and they will,

1578
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: they will lose to Detroit. In Detroit, tough place to play.

1579
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: You played in there? Have you played it well? When

1580
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: you played the they with ar.

1581
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: Oh YEA yeah, No, No, I've played in the Yeah,

1582
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: the last time they were in the Silver Nome. The

1583
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: last that I went to Detroit with the last two

1584
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: times i've been there, with the Jacks. I mean they

1585
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: have absolutely mopped him up. It's a great environment. The

1586
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: team is hungry. The team is the reflection of the city.

1587
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: Tough environment, tough place to play here you.

1588
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: Go, and it's tough place to walk the streets to

1589
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: at night, isn't it.

1590
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think every place has

1591
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: its own like things that you have to be aware of.

1592
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you big, you're a

1593
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: tough guy. You get what you're worried about. So I

1594
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: was gonna attack you, you know.

1595
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 2: All right, he's bucking Brooks. I'm Andy Fermawee. Have Fox

1596
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. It's the game of games.

1597
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 2: It's bottom barrel betting and it's freaking next all right,

1598
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: bottom barrel betting right around in the bed. It's about

1599
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: eleven minutes now before the top of the hour. This

1600
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: is Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. And of

1601
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: course we got this game to play well life from

1602
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: the tire Rock dot Com studios. So let's play, all right,

1603
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: Domato does it all? The jack of all trades, the

1604
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 2: one and only Shay Shay.

1605
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 4: How are we doing, guys, Bucky, Andy, It's great to

1606
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: be back. We're playing the game or I give Andy

1607
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 4: and Bucky bets from around the world and they tell

1608
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 4: me what they think. But it's not just any bets.

1609
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 4: It's bets from games that you might have not even

1610
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 4: heard of. So let's go over last week real quick,

1611
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 4: Andy with the big time win to bring it to

1612
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 4: thirty to thirty five.

1613
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: Andy, my flag. I want to plant that a buckie's chest.

1614
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: That was big.

1615
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 6: That was big.

1616
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: I want my flag. They go, I'm gonna plant the flag.

1617
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 2: How's that? No?

1618
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: I like that?

1619
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 6: I like that, Andy, Andy.

1620
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: The thing that pushed you over, if you want to

1621
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 4: know is is the chess match where you took the

1622
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 4: actually the underdog to win, and the underdog did win. Yes,

1623
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 4: it was a big deal in the chess community if

1624
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 4: you guys cared. But all right, let's get straight into

1625
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 4: this week. In the Brazilian Futsal League, Yagua is taking

1626
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 4: on Praya Club today at twelve thirty pm. Yagua is

1627
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 4: minus one ninety while Prayer Club is plus two forty.

1628
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 6: Andy. Since you won last week, you get to go first.

1629
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Pray A Club is very close

1630
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: to a player club, which I enjoy so it's pray

1631
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: a club.

1632
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 6: I like the logic. Candy Lucky Bucky here.

1633
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: I like the logic and it's so illogical that I'm

1634
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: gonna go the other way.

1635
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're going for Bucky, all right? Sweet?

1636
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 4: Now, this this is a sport you guys probably haven't

1637
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 4: heard of. Let me just set it up and then

1638
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: i'll explain the sport in the Finnish Bandaliga, which is

1639
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 4: a bandy league. Bandy is a sport popular in Europe,

1640
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 4: Russia and kind of that area of the world. And

1641
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: it's a mix of soccer and hockey, and it's also

1642
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 4: known as winter soccer, so it's basically just hockey. They

1643
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: wear skates, they have a stick and everything, but it's

1644
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 4: a much bigger court and I think the goals are

1645
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: much bigger as well.

1646
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 6: Some different rules. I don't think you can tackle people.

1647
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,520
Speaker 2: But it's outdoors.

1648
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 4: It's outdoors, yes, and they're actually on skates. It's not

1649
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 4: like the floor one that I was telling you guys

1650
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: last time, where they're just running around with sticks. But

1651
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 4: Achilles is taking on ols right now. The over under

1652
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 4: set at eight and a half and both over and

1653
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 4: under is minus one twenty. So this is a little

1654
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 4: bit different over and under. So it's set eight and

1655
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 4: a half and it's minus one twenty for both the

1656
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 4: over and the under.

1657
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 6: Bucky, let's start with you.

1658
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: I guess I go Achilles.

1659
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 2: Cool name. Really, I tell you what you're gonna lose,

1660
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: Chrius Achilles healed. That's why I got Ols. I have

1661
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: no idea what his stance will. But do you know

1662
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: what OLS stands for?

1663
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: No idea.

1664
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 6: I tried looking for it.

1665
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: I can't find.

1666
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 6: I don't think Bandy League websites.

1667
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: The lad that's what it is.

1668
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 6: I like that. I like that too much. Logic with

1669
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 6: you today, Thank you.

1670
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 4: In the Ultimate Pool Mixed Pairs twenty twenty four. There,

1671
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 4: it's taking place all week this week. Amy bu Camp

1672
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 4: and Carl Sutton are minus one forty win the whole thing,

1673
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 4: while Kerrie Randall and Sean Sharky are plus four fifty. Eddie,

1674
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 4: let's start with you.

1675
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: How could you go against a guy but the name

1676
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: is Sharky? I mean, really, Sean Sharky, he's my guy.

1677
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: Carry and Carry and Sharky are good sewn, and Kerry

1678
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: got him.

1679
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that.

1680
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 4: Bucky, Okay, Well, I can't take the shark tank. So

1681
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 4: I had to go to the So you Amy bu

1682
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 4: Camp and Carl Sutton.

1683
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Carl Sutton. Sutton gets it done.

1684
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna say this. He may not take

1685
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: the shark tank, but he's going to tank. Bucky's gonna do.

1686
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: I'm in his head now, I got a condo in

1687
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks's head. That's what I got right now.

1688
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: You're you're in my head because after two years, you're

1689
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: making the game close. I feel like I'm going to.

1690
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 2: Feeling that he could kind of like a rookie in

1691
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: the NFL, rookie quarterback. It takes about a year or

1692
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: two to get ready, you know what I mean.

1693
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 4: You could tie it up if you win out this week,

1694
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 4: you could tie it up. But let's let's let's get

1695
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: these last two.

1696
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he sweeps.

1697
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 4: In the women's handball European Championship, France is taking on

1698
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 4: Hungary today at six fifteen am Pacific Standard time. France's

1699
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 4: minus two twenty five all Poland is plus two seventy

1700
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 4: Andy Hungary.

1701
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: I'm always hunger for this Hungary.

1702
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, sweet?

1703
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: Have you seen have you seen the dominant girl for France?

1704
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: Like how dominant she is. Have you had a chance

1705
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: to see some of the clips on YouTube? Oh?

1706
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: Whoa? Tell me about it.

1707
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: Next week, I'll take I'm gonna take France, I'll take

1708
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: a friend.

1709
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I guess she's Donna.

1710
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: I didn't know, but.

1711
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: Just playing with me.

1712
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start number nine, number nine.

1713
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 6: She is number nine. Oh man.

1714
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 4: All right, I'll see if there is a number nine

1715
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 4: on the team and I'll come back to you guys

1716
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 4: with that next week.

1717
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,480
Speaker 6: Good luck to you guys.

1718
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Thank you so much. Swallow

1719
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 2: dome us next right here, Fox