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Global 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: equities rising to a two week high and an increasing 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: investor optimism that the world economy can withstand higher US 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: interest rates, oils advancing, gold falling amid a retreat in 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: the dollar. Whicheck the markets every fifteen minutes throughout the 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: trading day on Bloomberg SNP EMNI futures of nine points 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: and now e mini futures of seventy, naz documny futures 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: up twenty two. The decks in Germany's up one point 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: four percent ten Your treasury a little change at one 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: point it's six per cent. Nimex scrude oil up nine 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: tenths per cent, or forty four cents to forty nine 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: oh six of arrel comex gold on how per cent 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: or six dollars twenty cents six an ounced the euro 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: at dollar eleven forty six, the N one ten point 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: one seven sena fee the French drug makers seeking to 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: buy Metivation, seeking to remove and replace the company's entire board. 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Tiffany down more than three percent this morning after posting 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: quarterly sales that trailed analysts estimates. And Bank of Montreal, 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Canada's fourth largest lender by assets, said fiscal second quarter 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: profit fell two point six percent after setting aside more 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: money for soured loans and taking a restructuring charge. The 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: firm raised its dividend two point eighty six cents a share. 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: That's a Bloomberg business flash. Tom and Mike Carasco, thank 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: you very much. We are talking this morning about investing overseas, 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: particularly emerging markets and UH places where they are affected 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: by what the FED does, and the FED is UH 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: certainly on everybody's mind these days. Elinos has to be 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: paying attention. She's managing director for for ex Strategy at 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: RBC Capital Markets. Also, the interesting thing to a lot 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: of people in the markets lately is that the FAT 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: is now talking about raising rates and there's a better 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: than fifty percent chance according to futures that they'll do 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: so by the end of July, and the dollar not 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: moving a whole lot, nor are its pairs at this point. Oh, 41 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: we have seen a bit of a move. So if 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: you look at your dollar, for example, not that long 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: ago we broke through one fifteen, took up a lot 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: of stops stuff there, and now we're back at one 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: fifty um. Equally, if you look at the US dollar 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: against Ozio against he were against the Canadian dollar, if 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: I've had a bit of a replacement. But I think 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: it's important to bear in mind that even now where 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the market is repricing and hikes for this year, expectations 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: are still lower than they were at the start of 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: the year. So there's still a lot more caution with 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: adust to set what what what's changed from say, late 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: last year early this year when the dollar caught an 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: enormous it on FED speculation. So when the first said 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: hike came in December, everybody, particularly in the US was 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: very focused on the domestic conditions. And you know, if 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: you talked to our UNS economists, they'd say, arguably the 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: conditions have been in place for the Fed to titan 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: policy for a while now, Um, and the expectation was 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: they would follow through on that three sixteen was up 61 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: to four hikes. That's what they themselves were forecasting with 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: their dots. And then came the foreign developments and the 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Fed's increased concern over foreign developments. So you know, you 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: had the pressures in China in January, the uncertainty over 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: their exchange rate policy. Um, you had a real risk 66 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: off shock through the middle of February, and I think 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: the FED reacted to that and really gave the market 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: the message that it doesn't matter what's going on domestically, 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: we're too concerned about foreign developments in order to tighten policy. Also, 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Ling was good morning, term Keen. Will you I look 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: at also at the dynamics right now? Is it a 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: normal market? I can't figure out really across the equities 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: band's current these commodities, if there's a lethargy, if there's 74 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: a lack of liquidity, if no one cares, what's the 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: mood of the market if as you see off your desk, Well, 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: we've seen volumes drop, um, and I focused on foreign exchange. 77 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: We've seen to kind of a drop in foreign exchange, 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: and I think people have been quite frustrated the big trends. 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm just not there at the moment. You know, everybody 80 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: was looking for the divergence trade this year, and Matt 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: hasn't really played out UM, and I think it's keeping 82 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: people a little bit cautious. You know. One of the 83 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: questions I was getting suddenly a month ago, a few 84 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: weeks ago, UM was how can we find r V 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: in effect? You know, I'm set up of taking a 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: bet on the seat, Will they weren't they? Where can 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: they find relative value outside of that? And is there 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: a place? So there are a few trades you know 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: that's a little bit esoteric for some investors. But short 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: you're a stocky for example, it's both risk neutral and 91 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: also neutral to general dollar direction. UM yesterday you had 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: a pretty sizeable move, but it's a trade we've liked 93 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: UM lower for a while. You have a domestic story 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: in Sweden that because it's risk neutral and dollar neutral, 95 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: you can actually play it out on that cross UM. 96 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Other trades, for example, short of the Cad short Pewee 97 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: CAD like them for a while. I think run quite 98 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: a long way. You may want to look for a 99 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: bounce and better levels to sell, but you know there 100 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: are trades out there for investors searching for them. We're 101 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: short euro Your zero parody talk is at the surprise 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: that the overshooting Europe could be a much weaker euro. 103 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, that was a very popular theme last year 104 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: and it never really played out even this year. It's 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a struggle because the set isn't delivering 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: the tightening that some people expect it. You know, I 107 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: still think you're a dollar worlder flower over time because 108 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: we're not seeing in fishery pressures in the your area. 109 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: And it will be a very very long time before 110 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: the UCB eventually titans policy. But it's not necessarily a 111 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: trade that people are going to pile in on today 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: and make money in the next three to six months. 113 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: The C in RBC stands for Canada. Whither the looney 114 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: from here? It obviously took a big hit as oil 115 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: prices went down. Oil prices are going back up. Is 116 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: the Canadian dollar going to continue getting strong? So it's 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: a kind of interesting point here for dollar Canada. We've 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: bounced back from region back up to above one thirty UM. 119 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: It's obviously had the Obta wildfires, which about tragic in 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: their um implications for the sit ins of Fort McMurray, 121 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: and you're going to see some impact on qt GDP 122 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: as results of that UM, but then you should see 123 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: a bounce back in Q three g d P. So 124 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the underlying drivers for the 125 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Canadian dollar are quite evenly balanced at the moment. The 126 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Bank of Canada is in no rush to high rates, 127 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: but equally it's not cutting rates. Forward curve is quite 128 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: fairly priced. You know, our target for dollar card at 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: year end has been for a while one thirty three, 130 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: but when you're at current levels, it's hard to get 131 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: too excited about it. Also, I look at I look 132 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: at Canada and all of this, and I guess what 133 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: it speaks to, particularly for people removed from your area 134 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: phone exchange, is jump conditions. Are you looking at migrations 135 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: and stability and not lethargy but just a listlessness, or 136 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: are we setting ourselves up for abrupt and brutal moves 137 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: across equities, bands, currencies and commodities. Well, the risks, if 138 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: they're going to come from somewhere, are coming from China. 139 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: And you know, at the start of the year there 140 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: was a lot of uncertainty over their exchange rate policy 141 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: and how they would build a capital outflows. Now there's 142 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: been a sense of calm setting in because they seems 143 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: have been able to manage those outloads. But it's still forecasting. 144 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: Gonta remember ten the year at six five and actually 145 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: break through seven next year, and I think that's really 146 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: something the markets are not priced for. You know, the 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: capital flows are still ongoing. UM the pay may have 148 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: slowed down a little bit, but when we look at 149 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: UM the M and a outflow from China, and we 150 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: look at ongoing assets by households to get their money 151 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: out of the country, this isn't a problem that's gone away. 152 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: It's just in recession in UM permission at the moment, 153 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: so it could well come back before the d of 154 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: this year. I'm going to assume you go to the 155 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: RBC Capital Markets time out chair if you talk too 156 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: much about Brexit, but you have a unique perspective on 157 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Brussels and EU. Do you perceive a changed Brussels in 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: the next one or five years over all that's going on. 159 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: Can Brussels even possibly get its act together? Well, it 160 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: will have to change, and I think we're seeing political 161 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: forces changing across the European Union. You know, the EU 162 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: has been quite critical of policy moves in Hungary and 163 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: in Poland. Um, we've had the rise of the far 164 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: right in Austria, though they didn't win the presidential election. 165 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, there is the issue of migration and the 166 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: refugee crisis that also has to be dealt with him. 167 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: He's are causing a lot of internal attentions. So it's 168 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot harder to manage policy from the center when 169 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: individual countries are facing such big internal challenges. And I 170 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: think as a result, you will need to see UM 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Brussels perhaps standing back it's initial ambition before you do integration. 172 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Never enough time. Also, Lingos, thank you so much, greatly 173 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. OURBC capital markets with a great perspective on 174 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: the continent and Brussels is well. Michael, I look at 175 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: all this and I can hear a lot of our 176 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: audience saying, okay, I get it. You know, we're doing 177 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: a lot of foreign exchange of minutia and grease back 178 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: on the radar sort of a little bit. But you 179 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: just really wonder what it means for an equity market 180 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: with the VIX of fourteen point to zero. Oh, it's 181 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: fascinating that we are not seeing what we saw, I 182 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: mean the markets. It's risk on with the Fed. They 183 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: seem to be buying the idea that the FED has 184 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: been wanting people to buy for some time, that it 185 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: reflects confidence in the U s ecind what do you 186 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: what do you see? I mean, your thing this morning 187 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: you did on term premium was brilliant. What do you 188 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: see on June versus July? Is there something smart there? 189 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: You can say, no, there's not. Really. The real kind 190 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: of question I think is going to be where we 191 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: are with the Brexit polls. If there is a still 192 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: considered a fifty or better chance that the Brits would 193 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: vote to leave the EU, then the FED may want 194 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: to hold off and just see what happens in markets. 195 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about, Come on, Mike, June or July. 196 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: The Red Sox are playing six, they've won three in 197 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: a row. Do they fade in June or do they 198 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: fade in July? Well, you always have to look because 199 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: that's when the All Star break is, and it's if 200 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: you're playing really out and you come to the All 201 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Star break. At least the New York Metropolitans suggests that 202 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: one feeds in this election cycle. You can't make this 203 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: up headline, espn X, Red Sox pitcher Lee running for 204 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: governor of Vermont,