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Speaker 1: First day to follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Byron is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up, and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Taylor.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe

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Speaker 2: get him a second date. But first, Byron, how long

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Speaker 2: has it been since he talked to Taylor?

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Speaker 3: She's been ghosting me for like eight days.

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Speaker 1: Oh, not like you're counting or anything.

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Speaker 4: Well, I tell you it's hard not to.

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Speaker 3: I really liked hanging out with her.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that sucks. How did you guys leave it

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it all was cool.

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Speaker 4: You know. We got a light kiss, nothing too crazy,

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Speaker 4: but it really seemed like things we're going to go

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Speaker 4: well and move forward.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, tell us about the date then.

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Speaker 4: So we went out, and because she's got this whole

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Speaker 4: white we met at a fault that's the little thing, right,

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Speaker 4: And so she had this whole autumn aesthetic, you know,

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Speaker 4: the messy bonds get sitting in La olsta. And I

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Speaker 4: really liked her energy, so I was kind of thinking, oh,

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Speaker 4: let's do something fall thing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: She was playful, seeing spontaneous and a little flirty. So

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, you know what, why don't we

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Speaker 4: go apple picking? It's going to be perfect for this

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Speaker 4: time of year. I've never gone on it for a

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Speaker 4: date too. But she said that she likes doing stuff

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Speaker 4: that feels like a movie saying. So I'm like, oh, perfect,

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Speaker 4: I can.

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Speaker 3: Be your lead.

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Speaker 4: And then right so we you know, we go to

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Speaker 4: the place.

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Speaker 3: We're having a good time.

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Speaker 4: You know, we took a bunch of pictures, but where

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Speaker 4: I think things probably went wrong.

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Speaker 3: Later on, I.

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Speaker 4: Started, I climb a tree right because I see this apple.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, ooh, this apple is gonna be perfect for her.

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Speaker 3: So I climb up there to grab it. The branch

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting on cracks, I fall and I broke my wrists.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I realized it was broken the next day, right, because

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Speaker 4: I tough help throughout the whole rest of the date.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, this is bad, this is bad.

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Speaker 3: I played it off. I played it cool.

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Speaker 1: Are you okay? Did you get a cast? As you

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Speaker 1: go to doctor and risk is bad?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: The next day I did go and they put me

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Speaker 4: in a cast, you know, not a big one. It's

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Speaker 4: just my wrist. But you know, we kind of laughed

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Speaker 4: it off when I did get hurt. But you know,

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Speaker 4: my hoodie was covered in dirt, so I looked stupid,

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Speaker 4: ended up being a mess.

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Speaker 3: I really felt like we could still move forward, you know.

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, And how did it go after that?

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Speaker 3: After that? You know, ultimately it was a cute recovery.

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Speaker 4: We had grape bye. You know, we even did, like

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Speaker 4: I said, I got a little kiss at the end

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Speaker 3: But now my text have been unanswered.

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Speaker 1: Does she act a little different like at any point

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Speaker 1: in the night or she just seemed the same.

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Speaker 3: Well, she was definitely shook, and uh she was up,

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Speaker 3: was shaken up. You know when I fell, She's, oh

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Speaker 4: And I said, I'm good, I'm good, I'm fine, I'm fine.

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Speaker 5: You can handle it, okay, you know.

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Speaker 4: But so I think she was like worried, you know, worried,

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Speaker 4: but not like grossed out, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she just thought you were a click one

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Speaker 1: of those clumsy types and doesn't want to deal with it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, because I'm really not. It was the one time.

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Speaker 1: Well, what do you think the reason is that she's

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Speaker 1: ghosting you?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I can think is that there were

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Speaker 4: okay to be with the guy that just fell out

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Speaker 2: I would think that would be awesome. Be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I with the guy that fell out of the tree.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll see if we can figure it

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Speaker 2: out for you. We'll play a song, come back and

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Speaker 1: You a second date if you still want one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to your first day follow up next.

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Speaker 3: Fred.

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Speaker 2: Middle of your first day follow up, and if you're

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Speaker 2: just joining us, Byron is on the phone and Byron

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Speaker 2: is getting ghosted by Taylor. So we're about to call

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Speaker 2: her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting

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Speaker 2: him and maybe get him a second date. Before we

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Speaker 2: do that, Byron break down your date again for us

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Speaker 2: real quick.

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Speaker 4: So we went apple picking, had a great time, but

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Speaker 4: I fell out of the tree trying to get the

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Speaker 4: perfect apple. I'm thinking that might have been too embarrassing

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Speaker 4: for her.

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Speaker 1: Did break your head?

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Speaker 3: I did, but I will again.

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Speaker 4: I found out that I broke my wrist the next

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Speaker 4: day because I played it off cool and I mean

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Speaker 4: I acted like it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 3: Behead.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Please?

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 5: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I mean I speak to Taylor. Please.

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 5: This is Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Who is this Taylor? How are you? This is a

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Speaker 1: radio show. It's called The Jubile Show. Hi, Taylor. I'm Nina.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure I have ah wait is this this

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Speaker 5: is on the radio?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, I did not sign up for Radio Today.

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Speaker 2: What No, Yeah, you Today necessarily sign up for it.

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Speaker 2: But we did get an email about you from about

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Speaker 2: me from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 5: Okay, tell me more please.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on the show that's called

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Speaker 2: the First Date follow Up. That's where if you go

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Speaker 2: out on a date with somebody and end up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: they can ask us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and find out why you're ghosting them. So it's somebody

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Speaker 2: that you're ghosting.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So it's like a detective work kind of thing,

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Speaker 5: is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're doing a little detective work to see

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Speaker 2: if you can tell us why you're ghosting somebody needs

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Speaker 2: I think a media.

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Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, all right, can you give me more maybe

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Speaker 5: a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Who do you think it is? Are you ghosting somebody?

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Speaker 5: I mean sort of, I guess kind of, yeah, I

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Speaker 5: mean sort of. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, do you want to tell us their name

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Speaker 2: and we'll tell you if that's the person that email us?

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Speaker 6: Okay, uh, okay, it's it's this guy Byron. We went

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Speaker 6: on this We went on a date recently and it

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Speaker 6: was mostly fun, but then some weird stuff kind of

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Speaker 6: I don't know how to like say this exactly, but

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Speaker 6: he has this like toxic masculinity thing happening. So that's

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Speaker 6: kind of what's up, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: We talked, you know, we talked him about your date.

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Speaker 2: Didn't hit me as a toxically masculine dude. I guess

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Speaker 2: that's how you would say it, But like, why do

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Speaker 5: So did he tell you, like about the date.

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Speaker 1: Or what happened a little bit?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So we were apple picking, which is like

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Speaker 6: a really cute date, and we were having a good time,

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Speaker 6: but it was like I think he was trying to

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Speaker 6: maybe show off for me or something, and he climbed,

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Speaker 5: It was like a pretty bad fall.

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Speaker 6: He was pretty high up and it was like he

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Speaker 5: Level fall, you know, like going back, like all this stuff.

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Speaker 6: And I went over to help him, and he kept

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Speaker 6: like waving me away and saying stuff like I'm a man,

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Speaker 6: I can handle it.

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Speaker 5: I'm a man.

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Speaker 6: Oh cool, like like it was a bad drop.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Taylor, that's Byron. He's actually on the phone and

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Speaker 2: wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Byron Byron, are you on this call? You're so he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean because it wasn't even really that bad.

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Speaker 6: You know, Byron, Byron, you landed, Okay, do you remember

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Speaker 6: what you said? You landed on your back and you

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Speaker 6: said pain is weakness leaving the body.

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Speaker 4: Oh but you I mean, I know I've said that.

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Speaker 4: But in my defense, I thought it kind of sounded cool, and.

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Speaker 4: Like the dude had a beard and an axe, and

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Speaker 6: Didn't even hold cider, like you couldn't hold the cider

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Speaker 6: I kept trying to ask you if you needed ice

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Speaker 5: Stuff about real men, like you were listening to a podcast.

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Speaker 5: Real men don't need ice. I'm like, come on, I mean, because.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of a pride injury.

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Speaker 5: You know, you can still get ice for your wrist.

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Speaker 5: That's mesup.

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Speaker 3: Hey wait a.

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Speaker 4: Minute, Okay, so you ghosted me because I didn't want

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was bad.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Are you okay?

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Speaker 6: Seriously?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's just I mean, it's just a broken wrist.

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Speaker 3: I'll be fine.

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Speaker 5: It's broken, broke your wrist.

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Speaker 6: Knew it was gone. Oh okay, what Look that's crazy

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Speaker 6: and you're not let me get you ice or take

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Speaker 3: I only look, I'm gonna be fine.

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Speaker 4: I mean I only need the cast for like six weeks.

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Speaker 3: And you said you like car guys.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I like, yes, I do. I like consonant guys.

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Speaker 5: I don't like delusional guys. I knew you were hurt,

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Speaker 5: you like you wouldn't let.

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Speaker 6: Me get you ice you wouldn't let me help you

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Speaker 6: at all. Like I wasn't trying to ask you.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't asking you like will you marry me? I

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Speaker 5: was like do you want ice? Like those are two

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Speaker 3: Fyron, Well, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing sexy about saying, oh kid, somebody get me

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Speaker 4: an ice pack, Like.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, let me tell you this.

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Speaker 6: There is something sexy about being vulnerable and knowing when

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Speaker 6: you need help, right, Like you don't need to pretend

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Speaker 6: that you're fine. That's not that's not attractive, like pretending

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Speaker 6: that things are okay when they're not. You can oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: if you guys coming to a girl saying oh it's fine,

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Speaker 6: it's fine, you're doing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I overdid it.

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Speaker 4: I still looked good climbing in a tree though, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe.

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Speaker 5: But then he's until he was like screaming.

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Speaker 6: I'm fine and like rolling around falling down.

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Speaker 4: Hey, gravity just could handle me a right, can handle

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Speaker 4: all my energy?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Byron, you're still doing it.

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Speaker 3: You can't some one. You can't blame me. You are

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Speaker 3: the type of woman a man with ball four.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's vulnerability. There's more of a line Byron get

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Speaker 1: a little bit more horrible.

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Speaker 3: I cried at the hospital.

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Speaker 2: Would you like another date with Byron? We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was pretty you know, he really let

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Speaker 2: us in right there. So what was going on?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know, to help him up?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not I'm not saying you have to cry

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Speaker 6: on the date, but just don't pretend everything's okay, and

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Speaker 6: maybe stay out of trees and no quotes from gym

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Speaker 6: posters or podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, deal, I'll just all for you, but from

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Speaker 4: ground level.

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Speaker 5: Jubile's first Date follow up