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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one free agency, you signed with Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: What led to your move from Chicago to Atlanta?

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Speaker 2: How did that go down?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of sad. I didn't really want to leave.

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Speaker 4: I was happy in Chicago. I loved Chicago. It's just

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Speaker 4: it's a business at the end of the day. The

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Speaker 4: best answer I can get is that it is a business.

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Speaker 4: They were trying to get Candas in there. It would

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Speaker 4: have been super amazing to play with Candace, like I

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Speaker 4: was actually looking forward to that, but you know, there's

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Speaker 4: but so much money they can put on the table.

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Speaker 4: But it was also a tough decision. I didn't want

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Speaker 4: to make that decision, and it ended up biting me

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Speaker 4: right on in the butt because they won the championship

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Speaker 4: the next year.

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Speaker 2: Damn, I did not realize that time. Why did you

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Speaker 2: hear that? That's so tough? CV? Oh No, and Haley,

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Speaker 2: you know, like you are one.

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Speaker 4: We've had this conversation, you know. But I mean I

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Speaker 4: wasn't gonna be able to play anyway because I ended

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Speaker 4: up being pregnant and I was watching them like playing

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Speaker 4: the jam ship and they won, and I was like pregnant,

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Speaker 4: like crying, just like.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Sometimes I Hooped.

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Speaker 1: Today, we've got another bucket on the pod twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three All Star eight year vet mother to Naomi in

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Speaker 1: my veg Atlanta Dream, none other than Cheyenne Parker.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for hopping on the pod.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, of course.

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Speaker 1: Well, just jumping into the landscape of what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the league right now. These are kind of heating up

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Speaker 1: as we go into this playoff push. So what teams

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Speaker 1: are you keeping an eye on as we head into

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Speaker 1: the last eight games of the season here.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, obviously, LA, that's our next game, So

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Speaker 4: I'm focused on them right now and just taking one

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Speaker 4: game at a time. And it's a lot going on,

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Speaker 4: like you said, throughout the league, so it's it's easy

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Speaker 4: to get kind of caught up in the hype and everything,

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Speaker 4: but just trying to stay focused on our goals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, LA, we beat them twice, dropped one.

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Speaker 1: They've recently moved into the A spot when they upset

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Speaker 1: the Aces last week, which was crazy. But how do

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Speaker 1: you think the focus and intensity of just the league

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Speaker 1: in general has shifted as we've headed into this playoff push.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, players are getting more comfortable out there,

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Speaker 4: they're getting in better shape. Mid season times, it's time

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Speaker 4: for you know, other players, younger players to start kind

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Speaker 4: of coming out of their.

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Speaker 3: Shell, which you're doing wonderfully.

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Speaker 4: But it's a fun time, you know, players just finding

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Speaker 4: their way, getting their rhythm, and it's exciting basketball to

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Speaker 4: watch for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it completely is.

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Speaker 1: And you have had a breakout season this year, I

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Speaker 1: mean and averaging fourteen points seven rebounds and then last

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Speaker 1: week had a career high twenty nine against Chicago. It

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Speaker 1: has been so fun being your teammate and getting to

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Speaker 1: cheer you on this season.

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Speaker 3: But what do you.

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Speaker 1: Think, you know, has kind of allowed for you to

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Speaker 1: be in the role that you're in, the position that

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Speaker 1: you're in this year to just like you are.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks Hayley, But I would have credited to just

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Speaker 4: changing kind of my routine.

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Speaker 3: Learning a little little things. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because after last night, Asa had her fifty

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Speaker 4: three on us, and it was a very humbling moment

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Speaker 4: for me and I just I did a lot of

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Speaker 4: self reflection and like just knowing, like, Okay, I'm a

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Speaker 4: great player, But what separates me from Asia. And one

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Speaker 4: of the things that I think about is the discipline aspect,

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Speaker 4: and that's something that I'm learning late. But it's just

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Speaker 4: like you know that saying better late than never. I'm

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Speaker 4: just thankful that I'm finally starting to figure that part

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Speaker 4: there's always going to be like setbacks. There's always going

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Speaker 4: to be moments where I'm getting humbled like that like

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Speaker 4: really takes to be a great player. That countless hours

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Speaker 4: of consistency in every way, you know, whether it's what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think discipline is something I've definitely

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Speaker 1: that consistency that you've been having this year on court,

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Speaker 1: those big changes been for you that have helped you

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say at the top of the list

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Speaker 4: will be my diet. I've always loved eating like everything.

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Speaker 4: I'm a foodie, you know, I love to eat and

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Speaker 4: so and sweets is like my weakness. So I had

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Speaker 4: to really like figure out, like, Okay, if you have

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Speaker 4: And that's something that I started to kind of take

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Speaker 3: Into the season.

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Speaker 4: I would say that would be the biggest change, Just

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Speaker 4: consistently eating food that fuels me instead of that like

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Speaker 4: you know, just weighs you down ride foods and sugars

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Speaker 4: and things like that. Eating habits has been one of

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Speaker 4: the biggest factors of just my overall performance and endurance

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Speaker 4: throughout the season. Also, just like schedules, Like before I

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Speaker 4: had a daughter, it was like just go with the flow,

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Speaker 4: have to really be a lot more organized and scheduled

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Speaker 4: with my time. Sometimes I'll overbook myself, which is what

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Speaker 4: happened with us last time. And so just being more organized,

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Speaker 4: writing down like what it is I want to do

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Speaker 4: for the day, for the week, my goals. I was

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Speaker 4: a lot more clear on what I wanted this season,

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Speaker 4: and one of my goals was to be an All Star,

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Speaker 4: and so it was exciting to have accomplished one of

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Speaker 4: those goals. But I have more, you know, to obviously

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Speaker 4: help lead the team to doing some stuff in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: and so just continue.

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Speaker 3: To make goals, write down goals, and be a lot

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Speaker 3: more organized. Those are the top two things for sure.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well, I mean it seems like it's paid

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Speaker 1: off a whole lot being All Star this year, having

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Speaker 1: one of your best seasons. And I think you mean,

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Speaker 1: I was voting for you. You deserve to be an

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Speaker 1: All Star from the beginning the year, and I think

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Speaker 1: everybody was.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's seen that.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, headed into the end of

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Speaker 1: are going to come out with MVP and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: What are your WNBA award predictions for Let's go MVP.

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Speaker 1: We got Defensive Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 1: sixth Player, and most Improved Okay, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Lot, all right, MVP.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely have to give hr Flowers man after

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Speaker 4: just scoring the fifty three piece, like it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like a hands down, like she's earned it already. If

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Speaker 4: she continues on for the rest of the season with

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Speaker 4: this type of high intensity, high level basketball, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: she'll win the MVP for sure.

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Speaker 2: And then what's next m IP Oh yeah, most improved.

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Speaker 3: I mean I could definitely be in the running of

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Speaker 2: Uh good.

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Speaker 4: But there's there's a few there's a few players that

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Speaker 4: have really just gotten so much better. I think Melissa

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Speaker 4: Smith has come out of her show a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: She's got a lot more confident and aggressive.

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Speaker 2: I know what a lot of people say is Jordan

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Speaker 2: Canada has had a great season this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really a good runner up, definitely Jordan Canada for MP.

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Speaker 3: Sixth woman. Hmmm, who's been killing it off the bench?

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Speaker 4: I would say for sixth women, I've seen Colonie Brown

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Speaker 4: For Dallas, I would probably say her just because I've

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Speaker 4: seen her stats and I've seen like she could easily

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Speaker 4: be a starting center somewhere, but she's coming off the bench.

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Speaker 4: But she's still you know, a great impact on the team.

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Speaker 4: So I would say maybe Kilani.

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Speaker 2: No, she's she's had big minutes for Dallas.

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Speaker 3: I mean she's had big minutes.

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Speaker 2: She has like having big tea come out and then

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Speaker 2: you have Kilaney come in. It's yeah, where it's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Backtracking a little bit to your basketball roots, how did

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Speaker 2: Who put the ball in your hands?

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Speaker 4: My brother, he it's fifteen years older, my oldest brother,

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Speaker 4: he's fifteen years older, so he was playing ball when

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Speaker 4: And I'm like five years old, a kid like, and

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Speaker 4: I always worked on my game when when they would go,

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Speaker 4: I would like play ball by myself. And then my

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Speaker 3: We were pretty competitive.

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Speaker 2: Then sure I flee my brothers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the same experience like my older brother.

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Speaker 1: We could only play one on one for so long,

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Speaker 1: Mom's like, nope, strictly horse strictly like drilling competitions because

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 3: So how many years apart were you? Guys?

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Speaker 2: We're three years apart?

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Speaker 4: Oh see early sixteen months, so we were like back

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Speaker 4: and Mac I was a little bigger than him.

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Speaker 2: Actually three years a lot, Yeah, three years.

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Speaker 1: I'm in sixth grade, Like, let's who, he's like a

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Speaker 1: Speciman high school.

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Speaker 2: It's not happening.

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Speaker 1: But I think the older brothers just give you a

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Speaker 1: certain competitive edge, Like once you start playing you know

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Speaker 1: aau and this and that, it definitely gives you a

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Speaker 3: It does, it does? I agree?

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Speaker 1: But you were born in Queens and then you guys

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Speaker 1: moved to North Carolina, So what was it like moving

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's a big culture shock cheah in there. Well,

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Speaker 2: I was actually moving to Georgia first.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, yeah, and then in North Carolina. So

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Speaker 4: it was like a quick stop in Georgia, which didn't

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Speaker 4: It was my rookie year. I think the first thing

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Speaker 4: Well, it's so different now. When I played a it

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Speaker 3: Was it was what I needed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So talking about a high Point a little bit.

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Speaker 4: It was broke because I told you about it. You

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so I would say, like just like experience

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00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 4: and like that relentless type of mindset, like I'm going

444
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 4: to figure out how to do it until you do

445
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 4: it with my you know what I mean?

446
00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: So okay, So then after your three years, you made

447
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: a tough decision we go to Middle Tennessee. So you

448
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 1: talked about just like going somewhere we had opportunity. You

449
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 1: broke like a million records with most blocks in the

450
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 1: season you had a triple dub single game blocks average

451
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,959
Speaker 1: twenty eighth of there. So was there any type of

452
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: growing paints moving into more of a mid major conference

453
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 1: into that league or you know, how was that year

454
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 1: that you had at Middle Tennessee preparing you for the draft?

455
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 4: Well, it was definitely the coaching there, Like he was intense.

456
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 4: Gotcha got on Rick and so shout out to Rick. Yeah,

457
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 4: he was intense, and you know he just like was

458
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 4: the type of coach that would literally stop practice scream

459
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 4: at me, I need you.

460
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 3: To want the ball every second of the possession. Want

461
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 3: the ball?

462
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 2: Guy crazy.

463
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the accent was crazy, but it kind of brought

464
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 4: out this other part of me that I didn't know

465
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 4: I had, you know, like that toughness side, Like he

466
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 4: was making some of my teammates cry, bro, you know

467
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 4: what I'm saying like daily, you know. So it was

468
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 4: definitely that toughness level that he kind of turned on

469
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 4: for me.

470
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: But it helped me.

471
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 4: Like, even though he got on my nurse, it was

472
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: definitely something that helped me grow as a player and

473
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 4: as a person too, because I had to really learn

474
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 4: like to take what was being said and not how

475
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 4: it was being said.

476
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Speaker 1: I had to and then it prepared you because we

477
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: end up going fifth overall pick in the twenty fifteen draft,

478
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: which is amazing. Yes, but what was that process, Like,

479
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: did you know you were going to go to Chicago?

480
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: You know, what was the fit? Talk me through?

481
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: What was that draft process?

482
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Speaker 3: Like for you it was nerve wreaking. Actually, I had

483
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Speaker 3: a rough ending to my career at MT.

484
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 4: I got caught up with the drug test, failed the

485
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: drug test smoking weed. So that ended up getting me

486
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: kicked off the team that right at the end of

487
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 4: the season. And it was like a super like dramatic

488
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 4: moment because I had every plan to go play pro,

489
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 4: you know, to get drafted possibly like the goal was

490
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: to get drafted, and I was like, I just felt

491
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 4: like I had ruined that opportunity. It was really a

492
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 4: really sad time. But one thing I didn't do was

493
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: stop working. Like I stayed prayed up. I stayed in

494
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 4: the gym like and I mean like in there, hey,

495
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 4: like I bet I was in the morning, came back

496
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 4: at eight, went back like I stayed in there. So

497
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: I ended up having hiring an agent and he connected

498
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: me with Pokey, who was the coach of Chicago and

499
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: she called me and she was like, Hey, I want

500
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 4: to fly you out here to meet myself and the

501
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 4: and the owner and you know, just talk to you

502
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: because I don't want to judge you off of hearsay.

503
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: I want to get to know you as a person

504
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 4: and see what your mindset is. And I'm to this

505
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 4: day like I love Poke Chapman for one just taking

506
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: that chance on me, and for two not judging me

507
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: and knowing that I was a good kid and I still,

508
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, wanted to be great.

509
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: I just had to take some l's.

510
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 4: And learn some things along the way. But yeah, Poke

511
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: and Michael of Chicago took that chance and drafted me,

512
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 4: and it was really an amazing, like crazy experience. Like

513
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: when they said my name, I was at my apartment.

514
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 4: I had all my teammates over and it was just

515
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: like super exciting, Like I just cried, like.

516
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's so that's amazing for me to take,

517
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, an experience like that at such a turning

518
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: point in your life and be able to a lot

519
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: of people just sit back and wallow and be like

520
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: my life is over like nothing some of it. But yeah,

521
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 1: in the gym, and I know you, I bet you

522
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: were Neil. Back to the gym. Now back to the gym,

523
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: you were up in their sweating and was in there,

524
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 1: I bet. And so to be able to turn something

525
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: like that and then go and show who you are

526
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: and be vulnerable with Pokey and the Chicago staff is

527
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: really special and just speaks to the character that you have.

528
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: And so you know, you get drafted, you move into

529
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Speaker 1: training camp and training camp. I know after ours this year,

530
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Speaker 1: training camp is a lot. And so what was your

531
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Speaker 1: what was your rookie training camp experience?

532
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: Like, No, it wasn't too bad. It was pretty fun.

533
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 4: Delea Don was my vet, Okay, Cappy Pine, Dexter, Tamra Young,

534
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: those were my ogs at that time, and it was cool.

535
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: They weren't too hard on the rooks. We had it

536
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: a little worse than y'all. Y'all don't got it that bad.

537
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: But sometimes they would make us like bring them breakfasts

538
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 4: and stuff like that from Starbucks, just something silly.

539
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: But it wasn't.

540
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: Terrible, you know, we got through it.

541
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Speaker 3: It was me and Laney. Laney was the other rookie.

542
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Speaker 4: The one thing that I could say, like in the

543
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: moment that sucked obviously, was that I was riding riding

544
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Speaker 4: the pine.

545
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Speaker 3: Haley you know, man.

546
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 4: You know she used to always say trust the process

547
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 4: CP and I'd be like.

548
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, whatever you like.

549
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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that, you know, but to

550
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: this day, like love pokey, I should have trusted it more.

551
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 3: But it's normal.

552
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Speaker 4: Like the one thing like as a rookie, if I

553
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 4: wish I could go back and tell myself, like, it's

554
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 4: going to get better, stay the course, don't beat yourself up,

555
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 4: don't wallow like I was wallowing. I was eating, like

556
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 4: emotional eating, like just stay the course, keep getting better,

557
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 4: and stay the course is gonna come.

558
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: I got you, Okay, So not tw many rookie responsibilities,

559
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: riding the bench a little bit, it happens.

560
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: It happens.

561
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Into your rookie season. What was the biggest adjustment for

562
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: you moving from college? You're averaging twenty eight year dominating

563
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: and then you get into a place where basically everybody

564
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: did that in college at this point and so you're

565
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: playing against everybody. What was that adjustment period like for you?

566
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: When was there a moment we were like, oh, snap,

567
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: like welcome to the league. I know for me, you

568
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: remember we played Connecticut in our preseason game this year,

569
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Ka hit me with a mean job with right on by.

570
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: I said, oh damn, oh no. And I remember te

571
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: pulled up on a film. It was just like yeah, Haley,

572
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, I do better, but I understand you're learning.

573
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I got you for getting better, but

574
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: you know, what were those adjustments like for you?

575
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: Yes, my moment was definitely also a preseason and it

576
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: was Connecticut's. Funny fact, it was Connecticut as well. They

577
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: had a Kelsey Bone was her name. She was strong,

578
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: she was strong, and.

579
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Speaker 3: She hit me with the right in the chest.

580
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 4: I went flying. I went flying, Hayley, I went and

581
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 4: hit the backboard and everything. It was crazy. It was crazy,

582
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 4: but that was my moment. I realized, Okay, let me

583
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: get my weight up. Like I was real thin coming in.

584
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I was similar to the

585
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: one buzzing around now Angel Rees like I was like

586
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: her body like I was thin like that, super super thin.

587
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: And I got like de bowl elbowed right in the

588
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: chest and that was like my moment like Okay, these

589
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: girls are strong, like let me get strong. Definitely that moment,

590
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 4: but then throughout the season a few minutes that I

591
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: got here and there I had this amazing help side

592
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: block on kandas Parker.

593
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: Dog, and it was like the gent wy wow that

594
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: we were at home.

595
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm here.

596
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 4: That was my moment of like okay, like I can

597
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 4: play a little bit with y'all. Like, so definitely a good,

598
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: good experience, something that I'll always cherish.

599
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: You know, rookie year is always a special year. It

600
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: really is.

601
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Speaker 1: And so I mean your rookie year was experienced ups

602
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: and downs, just as every rookie year has. But you

603
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: talked about the vets that you had and having somebody

604
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: like Cappy being one of your vets. How special was

605
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: that to have somebody who'd just like a pillar of

606
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: the league for so long, a bucket, a great playmaker.

607
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: What was that like to be able to have somebody

608
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: to learn like that?

609
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: Really cool one thing that I always like share it

610
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: because it was the best advice she gave me when

611
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: I played with her.

612
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: I asked her, like a.

613
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: Few games went by and like I wasn't really too

614
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: familiar with Kapi's game until I got in the league

615
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: and like played with her, and I was just like, Capy,

616
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: how you be getting all these an ones?

617
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: Like how how do you do it?

618
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: The people want to know and like what's the secret,

619
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 4: And she said, get your core strong.

620
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: It's all core.

621
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: And I took that with me, like to this day,

622
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 4: core is like super important to me. Not mainly I

623
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: had a child, so that was a really big process

624
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 4: of like getting my core back strong from that. But

625
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: even before, like I remember that that was something that

626
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: stuck with me that she told me. And it's it's true,

627
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: like when your core Like even when I like before

628
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: a game, if I'll do like a few planks, like

629
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: thirty second planks before the game, I always feel stronger. Yeah,

630
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: and it really really works, like it's like one of

631
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: those things I always feel just stronger and more balanced,

632
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: like when I.

633
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: Do go in like give me an an one. So

634
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: banks Cap shout out to you.

635
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: Great advice.

636
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: Love it.

637
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: So after your rookie season, you decided to play overseas.

638
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: What was that decision like to play overseas and where

639
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: did you go? Was there any type of like culture

640
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: shock or language barrier that she would deal with playing overseas.

641
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: I went to China for my first season, and I

642
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: would not advise that not for your first time, like

643
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: go to Europe, first get the experience and then try

644
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: China just because it is. It's a huge culture shop.

645
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: Europe isn't as bad, it's still going to be a

646
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: culture shock, but China is like a huge culture shock.

647
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: It's twelve hour difference, so right now it's four in

648
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: the morning, and then for two the food is really different.

649
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: You have to really like be careful of what you're eating,

650
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: Like you have to ask what kind of meat is this?

651
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: Because they eat pretty much every there's no meat that

652
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: they don't eat. You have to like carefully ask like, hey,

653
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: what meat is this? Like is this chicken? Is this chicken?

654
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: And you got to learn how to say it because

655
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: no one speaks English either.

656
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: It's very rare. I had a.

657
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: Translator and it's only one import per team, so like

658
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: in Europe you'll usually have two and all your teammates

659
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: will speak English. China, only your translator speaks English, the

660
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 4: only other person that speaks English, and it's not very

661
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: good English.

662
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: It's like broken English. Oh, it's a little dramatic at first.

663
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of things that just like you know,

664
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: as your first time, it's like rough, but I made

665
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: it through.

666
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: It's not a long season. It's only four and a

667
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: half five months.

668
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: And I even became an All Star in my rookie

669
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: season and got to be an All Star with Maya

670
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: More and Tina Charles. So that was cool, and it

671
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: was really nice to be able to talk to them

672
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: and like just talked on an American yeah, the first

673
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: time months, you know.

674
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: So, yeah, China was different.

675
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a great company to have All

676
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: Stars in your rookie year. A lot of people didn't

677
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: go overseas.

678
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: They have different experiences of how it impacts their play

679
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: and just their skill level, their confidence, things.

680
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: Of the sort. So yeah, coming back after your first

681
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: year abroad, what do you think it had on your game?

682
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: A lot over there?

683
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: I was like averaging thirty five and so yeah, I

684
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: had the green light, green light galore, Haley ye want

685
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: it over there. But it was great for my confidence,

686
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: you know, just obviously not playing it'll dim your confidence

687
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: a little bit and like have you down on yourself,

688
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: like oh am I good enough? Leg you know, just

689
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: questioning yourself. So being able to go over there and

690
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: just dominate like that was helpful and going into the

691
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: next season gave me a lot of confidence. Just like Okay,

692
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: pick up where you left off. Keep that same confidence. Yes,

693
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: this is a tougher league, but the basketball is the

694
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: same size, the hoops the same size. Nothing changes between

695
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: those four lines. So keeping the mindset, keeping the aggressive

696
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: mentality is like the best part of going over there

697
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 4: and being able to kind of translate it.

698
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it seems like it really translated well

699
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: when you came back, because that was a breakout year.

700
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: You know, you had career highs and every single category

701
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: for yourself. It seemed like something just clicked. So was

702
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: it just the confidence that carried over? Understanding like what

703
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: was it?

704
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: I would say it was the confidence, for sure carrying over,

705
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: and then also different opportunities throughout the season, players getting injured.

706
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: That was the Olympic year, so we had about two

707
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: or three Olympians that had to leave. We had Etika

708
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: Di Sosa and Claudia those not those both had to

709
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: play for Brazil, both post player positions. So I ended

710
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: up starting the game or two, you know, and that

711
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: you're surprised, you'd be surprised what that does for a

712
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 4: player's confidence and just like to get the feeld, get

713
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: that rhythm. So I would say it was having those

714
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: opportunities that fell into line and helped me kind of

715
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: get more minutes and find my rhythm too.

716
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, how would you describe those first

717
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: five years in Chicago.

718
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: You kind of saw it all, you know, of the

719
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: piin for a little bit. Second year you're starting, you're

720
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: doing this, and that you're having this breakout season. But

721
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: you always kind of you know, you were the underdog

722
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: coming out of college, and so did that mentality.

723
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Stick with you in those opening years of the league?

724
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Have not like i'ma proved myself, I belong to be

725
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: here play You're in China freaking All Star?

726
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Like, what were those years like for your mentality?

727
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: Definitely, that underdog mentality. I've had that from the beginning

728
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: and I think that's something that I'll always have that

729
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: just it helps with my competitive edge because I've always

730
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: been doubted. I've always been considered h empt like MTSU

731
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: who like Shyanne Parker, No you're.

732
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: You're a drug addict. No you're not gonna.

733
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: You know, just all types of things have been said,

734
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean seriously, So it's like I

735
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: use those things as like fuel, Like all right, you

736
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: don't think I can make it in this league, and

737
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna prove myself and everyone else that I can.

738
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: So definitely having that like competitive edge, that fuel to

739
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: just push.

740
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

741
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty one free agency, you signed with Atlanta.

742
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: What led to your move from Chicago to Atlanta? How

743
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: did that go down?

744
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: Well, Oh, it's kind of sad. I didn't really want

745
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: to leave. I was happy in Chicago. I loved Chicago.

746
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: It's just, you know, it's a business at the end

747
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: of the day. The best answer I can get is

748
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: that it is a business. They were trying to get

749
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 4: Candas in there. It would have been super amazing to

750
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 4: play with Candace, like I was actually looking forward to

751
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: to that, but you know, there's but so much money

752
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: they can they can put on the table, and going

753
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: into my prime years, it was super important for me

754
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 4: and for my career to make the decision. But it

755
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: was also a tough decision. I didn't want to make

756
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: that decision, and it ended up biting me right on

757
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 4: in the butt because they won the championship the next year.

758
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: Damn, I did not realize that time. Whine.

759
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: Did you hear that?

760
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: That's so tough TV?

761
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 4: Oh, no, and Hayley, you know, like we've had this conversation.

762
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: You are one, you know, like you and I was pregnant,

763
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: but I mean I wasn't gonna be able.

764
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: To play anyway because I ended up being pregnant.

765
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 4: And I was watching them like playing the ever sure

766
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 4: and they won, and I was like pregnant, like crying.

767
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: Just like just so funny.

768
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: I have had so many emotions. It's like, oh, I'm

769
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: happy my situation could have been me.

770
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: I was happy for him, but I was also super like, yeah,

771
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 4: a lot of emotions.

772
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

773
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: But you mentioned twenty twenty one was another big year

774
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: for you.

775
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: You had Naomi. Yes, so a lot of things changed.

776
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: So how was it having a baby when you're still pursuing,

777
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, your WNBA career, really in your prime.

778
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: Well, it was definitely unexpected, definitely not planned. I was

779
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: super focused on, like like you said, like coming into

780
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: my prime, like coming to Atlanta, ready to help change

781
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 4: the culture, ready to help change this, you know, because

782
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 4: you know, the Atlanta wasn't doing well at all.

783
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: They hadn't made the playoffs in a few years.

784
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: So I was just really excited to come help change

785
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: that and getting pregnant was not a part of that playing.

786
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: But you know, that's just me. I always gotta do something.

787
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: Tough and impossible, take it up. Like so it was

788
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: quite a journey. It was quite a journey.

789
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: I had to change my mindset.

790
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: Like obviously now it's like she comes first and foremost,

791
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: you know, and ball is still life, but Naomi's.

792
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: Life and then Ball's life.

793
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: And I'm just I'm thankful that I can share this

794
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: with her. Like I say this all the time, it

795
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 4: is super cliche, but she really is someone I never

796
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: knew I needed because she's the one that kind of

797
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: like gave me that push to like, Okay, you've been

798
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: playing in the league for eight years, now what are

799
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: you going to do to take it to that next

800
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: level as a player. And that was when I really

801
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: started to like self reflect on my discipline, my consistency,

802
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: you know, and there's certain habits and routines that I

803
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: needed to make and change to see a change. So

804
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: she kind of gave me that motivation to like, you know,

805
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: take it all the way, you know, because she's gonna

806
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: see one day, she's going to look back and like see, like, wow,

807
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: you did all of this after you had me like

808
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: I can do this, or you know, just giving her

809
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: that recognition that women are pretty dope.

810
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: I mean facts and pretty dope. You're an amazing mom.

811
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: I see it firsthand all the time.

812
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: It amazes me.

813
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: And now Naomi has eleven aunties and I'm sure many

814
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: more across the league. But I mean it's just so

815
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: powerful to see what you're able to do, be a

816
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: freaking All Star this year, do all these amazing things.

817
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you're amazing on the court, but off the court,

818
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: everything that you do in the community, all the different

819
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: things while having Naomi, it's amazing, so quick shout out superstar.

820
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't tell you enough. But got to basketball a

821
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: little bit.

822
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: You talked about coming to Atlanta and changing just kind

823
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: of the culture of the organization, and so you played

824
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: a huge role in that.

825
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: So what do you think has.

826
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: Been like the biggest area of growth in the franchise

827
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: since you've been a part of it.

828
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: Oh, so many things. I would say, just like our

829
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: overall culture when I came in, it was super bad,

830
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: like and I mean like draining, and not only it

831
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: was because I was pregnant and like super drained from that,

832
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: but like the energy was just very negative, you know,

833
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: no conglomeracy at all. I know that we've had team

834
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: meetings and.

835
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: I've shared an express like how much i love this team,

836
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: and it's because I've seen the growth and I've seen

837
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: like just the level of commitment change and all the

838
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: way from top to bottom, like just to see their

839
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: improvement and take the feedback from our meetings, like at

840
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: the end of the season. We always have meetings and like,

841
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 4: and I'm always honest and give them feedback on things

842
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: that can be better. And Hayley, you're gonna have that

843
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 4: meaning too, So just always be honest, you know. And

844
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: they're not in the meetings, so you don't have to

845
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: feel any pressure. You just tell what it is. Just

846
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: to see things be better. It's about growth, It's about

847
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: getting better. Even for us, we have to get better,

848
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: you know, like on the court. So just seeing the growth,

849
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 4: the overall growth in like the culture and how it's

850
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 4: like holding yourself accountable on certain things, like it's better.

851
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Something that's been talked about a lot recently is just

852
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: the growth of the league and the possibility of expansion

853
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: of the WNBA. Some are saying that they're for it,

854
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: some are saying not right now. Where do you kind

855
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: of stand on that front?

856
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: A lot of people are saying that right now. I

857
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: wonder why.

858
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just talking about like helping with the foundation

859
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: of the twelve teams right now with you know, we

860
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: don't have charter set or the travel or players south

861
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: right now, and so they're talking about possibly working on

862
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: those things first and then expanding or some people are like,

863
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: expand now and then those things will come with all

864
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: the added revenue, right.

865
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I agree with the second the ladder.

866
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 4: I think that if we were to get some teams going,

867
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: it would just build more traction, more fan base, obviously

868
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 4: more ticket sales, especially in some of these cities that

869
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: are basketball cities, like they would probably thrive. I heard something,

870
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a rumor or if

871
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: it's really true. They're considering Denver. So that would be

872
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: like really great, just because Denver is like Colorado, Like

873
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: who goes to Colorado, you know what I'm saying, And

874
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 4: it's such a basketball like city and then they just

875
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: well the men just won. So it might bring some

876
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: traction too if they if they get a team out there.

877
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: I think expansion is what we need.

878
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: There's so many players that could be on the team

879
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: but aren't because of lack of spaces. So unfortunate that

880
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: there's only one hundred and forty four of us if

881
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: that a lot of times they don't even go with

882
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: twelve anymore.

883
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 3: But I know that it's a process and it.

884
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: Comes with like, like you said, we need more revenue

885
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 4: in general in order for us to consider adding more teams.

886
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 4: So it's a tough thing, but I think it's something

887
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: that is going to take certain people.

888
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm really thankful Dwayne.

889
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: Kind of pulled the trigger with Chicago because now one

890
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: NBA retired player did it, so let's see if someone

891
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: can follow suit, because I think that's really what it's

892
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: going to take.

893
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: We need their help.

894
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's just been you know, expansion coming

895
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: on the rise, different things like that. But I think

896
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: just the growth of WNBA has grown so much because

897
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: of the coverage that we've seen added. Right, There's still

898
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: a long way to go, but I think that we

899
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: can be grateful for the growth that it's had while

900
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: still wanting more in terms of you know, more naturally

901
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: televised games.

902
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: People like Ri Chambers just.

903
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Specific to like Women's Sports WBA, growing social media presence,

904
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: growing about people just talking about the WNBA. So have

905
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: you seen that change over the course of your WNBA

906
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: career in terms of coverage.

907
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, even from like year to year. I remember

908
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: going in the first few years, no one knew us

909
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: around the city. Something as simple as that, no one

910
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: even knew who we were. We would be like, oh, yeah,

911
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 4: we play for this guy. I'll be like who's that,

912
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 4: who's the stud?

913
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right.

914
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you I have to explain it. We can't

915
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: take it personally. But then two three years later they're

916
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: stopping us like, hey, there's Shyanne Parker for the Sky

917
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: like and that was something that was really exciting to

918
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: see just how they worked really hard to try to

919
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: get us more exposure and just in different ways, you know,

920
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: like events, different ads. Sometimes things are gonna cost, but

921
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: it's worth it and you know in the end. And

922
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: I think the more people realize that, the more people

923
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: invest in us, the more we reap the benefits we see,

924
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: like the viewership. The more times we get on TV,

925
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: the more views we start to have, and you just

926
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: see like it's like okay, like it's going in the

927
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 4: right direction though, you know, so that's the good news.

928
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: It is going in the right direction.

929
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree.

930
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: I think it's just like, yeah, like you said, whenever

931
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: they put our games out, it's like, oh new record broken,

932
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: dost watch game this and that. It's just giving the platform,

933
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: which I think is really cool to see that people

934
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: want to watch it. They just need to be exposed

935
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: to it. So headed into our last section here, it's

936
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: called the vibe check, and it's going to be rapid

937
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: fire answers, or as close to rapid fire as you

938
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: can get. Some of these are kind of thinkers, So

939
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: I believe the UCP is.

940
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. It's gonna be really good. Darling

941
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: with hopefully an easy one. Who was best dressed at

942
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: the draft? Oh easy, Ailey, thank you, that's an easy answer.

943
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: You with sharp? You was sharp?

944
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Thanks? Thanks? Okay, best dressed in the league.

945
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, I'll give it to Ryan Brian

946
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 4: is the best dressed in the league.

947
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: Yes, she works hard on.

948
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: Those she do she do? Okay, what's the driller you

949
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: never want to see on our practice plan?

950
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 3: Gosh, I can go down the little line.

951
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: At twenty two. I'm trying to run at twenty two.

952
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that might be at the top.

953
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: A game winning shot or block game winning shot.

954
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 4: Last year against La funny Enough at home, the game

955
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 4: winning shot that was pretty good. I like did a

956
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: little heavy and Neka like stood up and I went

957
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 4: by her.

958
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: And and one or a three pointer and one.

959
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Even though I like bos toughest place to play in

960
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: the w Connecticut for me.

961
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be loud.

962
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: It gets loud, and it's just like I feel like

963
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's because we don't get to

964
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: go outside or what, but I always just feel lethargic there. Yeah,

965
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 4: food Maybe I don't know what it is, but Connecticut

966
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: is the hardest place for me.

967
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: Who's the biggest trash talker in the league.

968
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: Definitely Diana.

969
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: She's definitely, Yeah, hardest player to guard.

970
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: It used to be Sill I miss cill but now

971
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: I have to give it to Asia.

972
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: Man, who's at the best handles in the league.

973
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: Best handles in the league. I'll have to give to

974
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: a week.

975
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: And then who's the biggest flopper?

976
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 4: Ooh, floppers, get me started. This is getting aired, all right,

977
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 4: let me be good. Wait, the biggest flopper probably January

978
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 4: doesn't put anymore this year, who's been flopping?

979
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: Sophie has been an answer cutting out.

980
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: She's the biggest one this year. It's definitely so okay. Yeah,

981
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: she got twice.

982
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: We watched it a film, but it was crazy. Okay.

983
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: What's your biggest basketball in?

984
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: My biggest basketball ick probably when people complain about a

985
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 4: foul and like it was clearly a foul and they're

986
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: literally like and especially the replay and it's like yeah.

987
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: It's like are you okay?

988
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you here? Okay? Who's your basketball goat?

989
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: I would say maya, Maya.

990
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: Maya's my answer too okay. And then last question here

991
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: is I hope he watches this. What's your best impersonation.

992
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: Of coach D that's the firstonation of coach too. M.

993
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: She's got a lot of one liners.

994
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: There's so many.

995
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: Get back, CP, that's good, that's good. I always think

996
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: of sleep nice Lee, Oh hi, nob.

997
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: Hey, queen Aye, say hi hey a.

998
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, bye bye, oh my god, this

999
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: is minicky my day. Well, thank you so much, CP

1000
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: and guests are Naomi from being on It has been

1001
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: such a.

1002
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: Pleasure, absolutely our pleasure as well.

1003
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: Well. Thank you so much for listening.

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00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week for another episode of Sometimes

1005
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