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Speaker 1: when she was on the show. Jully Jolly, Jully, Jolly Please.

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Speaker 1: Born and raised in Memphis. Obviously, when you're born and

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. Well, open up the water. I

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Speaker 1: go over here and put acoustic guitars on things. And

427
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, we're gonna put you with I. R. S.

428
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: And you know, so by the that third project, that's

429
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: when you know we just won our separate ways. You know.

430
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: I think when I first heard you and heard of you,

431
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 1: you put out the cover album and you did some

432
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: classic song. Uh, what was the motivation behind that? Sixteen

433
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: I toured with Martina McBride and I at that point,

434
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to be a recording artist again.

435
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: So I have a two year tour. I decided, because

436
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't have any support, no management, no agent, I'm

437
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna save half of my salary and I'm going to,

438
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: uh have enough money to do a real project, and

439
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: I'll be able to afford anyone. I didn't know what gender,

440
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: but it was gonna be R and B or country

441
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: or jazz. I didn't know, but I was going to

442
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: have a budget for it. And this is out. You're

443
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 1: saving money while with Martina mcbrowns. Yes, yes, I opened

444
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: up an account just for that. I was like, I'm

445
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: ready to be a solo artist, so I'm probably gonna

446
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: have to pay for it myself. Okay, no problem, save

447
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: my money and skills finds me. And you know, with him,

448
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 1: my work ethic, you know, consistency, all that you know,

449
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: and then you know years a few, you know, working

450
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: with him for a couple of years, I had this idea.

451
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: I said, he was singing together again sound check and

452
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: I started ad living around it and I sang it

453
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: in my phone. I said, that's it. It's what Ray

454
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: Charles did the country. That's it, but traditional country songs.

455
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 1: So I told Paul Franklin about it, you know, we

456
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: were having lunch. I was like, I got an idea

457
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: for this project, and he's like, you need to talk

458
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: to Vins about it. He's been wanting to produce something

459
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: like that. And I'm thinking, okay, well, when should I

460
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: talk to him because we didn't know each other that well,

461
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: not yet, and he was like, just anytime, just bringing

462
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: up up. So I said, yeah, I talked to fans.

463
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: I was like, Paul Franklin said, I could talk to

464
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: you about this. I have this concept for a project.

465
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: He said, I think it's brilliant. I'll help you with it.

466
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: Um coming over to the house and I'll help you

467
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: choose songs. Okay, great, when can you do it? Months?

468
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm think I'm free like four

469
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: months later. Literally, I said okay, I'm inking it in

470
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: and sure enough he was there and we started going

471
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: through songs at his house and after about like four

472
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: hours because also Paul Franklin had said he may want

473
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: to produce it, so after four hours I felt like

474
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: he was committed, you know that. I thought he maybe

475
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: he gave me like one hour and after four hours

476
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: of listening listen, I said, are you gonna produce this

477
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: thing or what? Just like that, because I had my

478
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: mind was like how am I gonna ask him? I

479
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: was like, are you gonna produce this thing or what?

480
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: And he was like yeah, I'll produce you and you

481
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: won't even have to pay me. I was like, I

482
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: can't afford you so great, I'm sure I can't. It's

483
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, you bring up the ratio. My grandma listened

484
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: to the modern sounds, I mean so much that I've

485
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: listened to it ten thousand times to where when I

486
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: grew up, I thought that was just what country music was,

487
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: not a fresh kind of side swipe at what it is.

488
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: And I love that record so much, and it was

489
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: Andy Griffer the gospel music is when I grew up on.

490
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: Ray Charles often mentioned that record specifically, Um, you know

491
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: old Johnny Cash stuff being from Arkansas. But it's interesting

492
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: now that you say that, I can kind of feel

493
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: how they run alongside each other. I'll play a couple

494
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: of clips here. Play Ode to Billy Joe, This is

495
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: Bobby Gentry song, okaych and now Villa John mccallista, Damhatchan.

496
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a newer version of what Ray Charles

497
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: did long long ago. Loved and respect the country music,

498
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: but he's like, I am country. This is how I

499
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: do me and how the country has done through me.

500
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: But like, this is what you did here I love it,

501
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: but I never until you said that, And right when

502
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: you did, I was like, oh, now I get it

503
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: even more. I first I just liked it, but now

504
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: I kind of understand, like what you were going for creatively.

505
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: Let me play Faithless Love. This is Linda Ronstad Glen Campbell. Right,

506
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: he put himself on it. It's just me if he

507
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: never turns up. See, so you made this record. If

508
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: it's plays guitar on it too, all right, he picks

509
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: the band, he sets everything, so you record is completely

510
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it when it's completed, not

511
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: before anyone's heard it? And so how do you feel

512
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: about it when it's done? I feel like, for the

513
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: first time in a long time, a real artist, because

514
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: he said, um, I'm not going to tell you how

515
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: to sing anything. I want you to interpret it anyway

516
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: you want to. And um, that will the now. The

517
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: four or five hours we spent choosing songs, we didn't

518
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: use any of those songs. The day of the session,

519
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: he went on his phone. He started searching and he

520
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: was like, okay, let's do that one. Okay. I hadn't

521
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: heard you know, going away party or driving nails in

522
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: my coffin or you know, walk through this world with me.

523
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: I knew that one because growing up as a kid,

524
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, driving to you know Oprey Land, you know,

525
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: our church will bring a whole busload of kids. And

526
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: I remember stopping in a gas station and that came

527
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: over the jukeboxes. Yeah, the George Jones and that song

528
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: like always stuck with me. It stopped me in my tracks.

529
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: So when he chose that one, I was like absolutely.

530
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't want to tell you how

531
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: to sing anything. And then the guys in the band,

532
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, you got Paul Franklin and like these icons

533
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Richard Bennett and John Jarvis and you know Fred Eltring

534
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: him on drums, and you know, you got the A team.

535
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not going to be the weakest link.

536
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna jump in. I'm gonna leave steft

537
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: doubt like out of the window. And I was like,

538
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, can you play it at least once more

539
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: so I can make some notes since these are songs

540
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: I've never heard before, and uh, but I made them

541
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: my own. He was thrilled. The guys were like, you're

542
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: owning this stuff. So I got, you know, accolades from them.

543
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: I said, this must have been what Ella Fitzgerald must

544
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: have felt like in the wrong with the Cats, because

545
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: they truly respected her as a musician, and it's like empowered. Yeah,

546
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's when you say that. I can also

547
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: picture Elphitgerald piano like just the scene, right. I've seen

548
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: it either on YouTube a hundred times or seeing people

549
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: recreate that for television movie, and it just seems like

550
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: in that situation, she feels very empowered, and she's also

551
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: empowering other folks at the same time. So you make

552
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: the record, you're feeling it. You're starting a little bit

553
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: to feel you. Yes, they've felt me a hundred I

554
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: was so thrilled. And then COVID hit and shut everything down.

555
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: So then here you are a lot of people in

556
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: similar but not the same right, nobody lives the same

557
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: two paths, and you're thinking to yourself, what when COVID

558
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: shut everything down? I was thinking, um, what am I

559
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna do? Because you know, I envisioned playing everywhere and

560
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: it shut everybody off, and nobody knew what to do,

561
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, with this major shutdown, and I did a

562
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: little bitty things. Had an independent guy trying to get

563
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: some airplay. You know, we were all stuck in our homes. Um.

564
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: I did get a chance to do a release at

565
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Third Lensley, you know, with the guys that played on

566
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: the record, and I'm thinking I'm on my way, but

567
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: shut everything down, but I kept it, just kept shutting down.

568
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: But I didn't give up. You know, I was like, well,

569
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: I'll just do okay, I'll just get a little independent promotion.

570
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: At least there'll be some nuggets out there that someone

571
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: was released. And you know, I had a couple people

572
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: write some stories. But I still didn't want to give

573
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: up because it was the best music I ever heard

574
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: had in my career since my first project. So I

575
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: was very proud of it. But what it did because

576
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: Vince was like, man, I'm sorry I couldn't get you signed.

577
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that this didn't happen. I said, Vince, what

578
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: you did do for me was give me the right

579
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: material to play the grand ol Opry. It's that the

580
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: right voicing there, It's believable. It's you know, it fits

581
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: that narrative there. And I love the music so much.

582
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: That's why when I go to the Opry, I'm always

583
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: like listen. I watched soul Train and he y'all. So

584
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I love them both and you know, try to master

585
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: them both in my own way. And um, so he

586
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: gave me the right material because I had to been

587
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: produced by anyone else who loves it, but they're not

588
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: really in it. An element would be missing in some way.

589
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: It's just like no different than jazz or blues. You

590
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: get the wrong thing and there it's the wrong thing.

591
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: But he gave me the tools I needed, and also

592
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: the credibility that you deserve. Two allow people that maybe

593
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: didn't know to go, yeah, we want to actually give

594
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: her a shot, like like, okay, we're here. She's really good,

595
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: but we don't know. But Vince knows, and you know.

596
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: And that's that's big, the fact that Vince Gill vouches

597
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: for you, not just by saying it, but by working

598
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: with you, by taking you out, by you know, giving

599
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: you all these these places to shine, and you go.

600
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: And did you play the Opery before you went on

601
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: the voice which happened? Oh yeah, I played the Opery

602
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: in nineteen first first time. The first time it was

603
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: April twentie. I'll never forget and I you know, look,

604
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: I've been in a business thirty five years. I said,

605
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: in order for this to really stick, I need Vince

606
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Gill to introduce me because I don't have time to

607
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: try to build relationships at the operating You're not even

608
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: a country artist per se, you know. So I was like, Vince,

609
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: I need to introduce me, so need to be available,

610
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: which state works for you? And I need you to

611
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: play with me because then that seals the deal. And

612
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, he was like absolutely. So he did an

613
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: amazing introduction and we played together some of the songs

614
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: off the record, and that helped my relationships at the

615
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Opery and you know, and they've been calling me all

616
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: these different times. They put me on a Bonnaroo on

617
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: their stage. In so I played Bonnaroo two on the

618
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: Opery stage and um, you know, he opened that door

619
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: for me. And then after they invited me like four

620
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: or five or six times, I found it was like

621
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Vince listen, Um, are they doing this to make you happy?

622
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: He was like, I got nothing to do with it.

623
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: They'd love you, they feel like you're part of the family.

624
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: But I needed to know because it was something new

625
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: when I developed my own relationships. Did you feel like

626
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: because you know, you you know, how you grew up.

627
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Did you feel like when you made this record you

628
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: had kind of experienced all the music in a way

629
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: that made you meaning you had done uh, you know

630
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: when they signed to you and they were trying to

631
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: make you Whitney, you know, if that's that's R and B.

632
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: If you know you're trying to do a little alternative thing,

633
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: if you're doing the country thing, like I feel like

634
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: that's the kind of music because me, like, I've worked

635
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: in pop, hip hop, i did sports, I've um but

636
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: I grew up in a small rural town in Arkansas

637
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: and country music was a big part of it. When

638
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I moved here, everyone for years like he ain't country,

639
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: he ain't country now for a different reason, I didn't

640
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: have cowboy how a bell buckle, And I also admitted

641
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: that I had all these influences outside of what traditionally

642
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: was supposed to be shared. You've made all these all

643
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: this music now, did you feel like that was the

644
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Speaker 1: full three sixty like I've now been in all the

645
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: areas that shaped me. No, Because I've been uh eclectic

646
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: type artist my whole life. I've been blessed. It just

647
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: keep crossing genres, opportunities will come. I didn't really think

648
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: about it. Opportunities will come, I would take them, I

649
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: would learn. The idea was to grow like I became

650
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: like at they when I got away from E M.

651
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: I s when Julio Places picked me up and wanted

652
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: me to be his duet partner. And I had to

653
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: sing in four languages. I only speak one, but it's

654
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: singing four languages. And I became his duet partner for

655
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: over fifteen years. And you know it's well for him.

656
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot because he Julio, you know, you fire

657
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: people fast. But um, you know, I'm I love history.

658
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: So I got a chance to see a lot of

659
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Speaker 1: history and go to all the museums, the music, you

660
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: know that whole traveling the private planes and islands and

661
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: making crazy money. Again another situation to like can figure

662
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: out what I'm doing. I'll stay here and learn from

663
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: one of the greatest artists in music history. And that's

664
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Speaker 1: what I did. And I thought I maybe stay a year.

665
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think it could be fifteen years. But I

666
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: was learning so much, and he, you know, in his mind,

667
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I one of the greatest singers

668
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: in the world, but out of was learning from him,

669
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Speaker 1: like I learned from Vince and all these other people

670
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: that I've recorded with, but Julio, I've learned the most

671
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: about how to be a great communicator. I felt whenever

672
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: I was here, I constantly had answered the question. It's

673
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: been like, you're not country, and I would just after

674
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: a while, I had just stop even paying attention to them.

675
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: But I was like, if you knew where I come

676
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: from and what I was raised on, and how much

677
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: more I know than you, I didn't say this that

678
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: then you wouldn't now that it's not an issue because

679
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I've I've proven myself time and time again.

680
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: But do you feel like now you have to do

681
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: that a bit and go I'm country whether you believe

682
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: it or not. I've been a strange cookie my whole life,

683
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: meaning I've always done unconventional things because you know, conventional

684
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: singing and trying to have a conventional record career it

685
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. So I've always been pretty eclectic,

686
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: and so my friends and people who know me know

687
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: me for crossing the genre. So finally I got a

688
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: name or you know, Linda ron Stat, That's who I am.

689
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: She's saying numerous genres that's what I do. I'll put

690
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: all that in my show. And I tried to at

691
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: my theory because I'm always doing research. I try right,

692
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: had my theory at the Country Music Hall of Fame

693
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: Museum UM when they do this musician spotlight series, and

694
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna try out my theory. So I

695
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: started off with six traditional country songs, just acoustic guitar

696
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: with them, and that was I got Tom Booga back

697
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: to do that for me, and then I went into

698
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: the nineties. This is what it sounds like. If you

699
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: sound like with in Houston, you can get a record deal.

700
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: So I saying yes a little bit, I'll always love you.

701
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: Then I saying come in out of the rain. And

702
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: then I mixed in some Genus E and some Paul Simon,

703
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: and I ended the show with Elvis Presley's Love Me Tender.

704
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: That's who I am. And I finally realize for me,

705
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: it's about the songs, not about my artistry, my gift.

706
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: It's about the songs, and I want to sing the

707
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: songs I should never be forgotten, classics and you know,

708
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: throw in some originals, so crossing genres sing doing a

709
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: country record. My friends are like we're not surprised. I

710
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: did a jazz record, like from the thirties. Um, I

711
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: just like singing. I'm like making at all makes it

712
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: at all? Your first night at the Opery super cool.

713
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean I remember my first performance there. I it

714
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: was just I couldn't see the people because I don't

715
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: know that I was so nervous. Think it was just

716
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: overwhelmed because it was my first time. My second time,

717
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: I loved it even more. The second time. It's better

718
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: because I actually had myself. I guess I was calm,

719
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: but your first time, like what are the emotions going

720
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: through you before you walk out there? Well, I knew,

721
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: you know, the history of the Grand O Opery, and

722
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: I knew the history of the circle, and I just

723
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: told myself, you gotta look at this like barkiche literally

724
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: like don't think about the magnitude of what's really going on. Yeah,

725
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: just stay lose and you know, don't look down at

726
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: the circle and all that you know. Just and then

727
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: when I got home and I succeeded that night, and

728
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: Vince was happy and the you know, the staff was happy.

729
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: Um I wept in my bed because my parents weren't alive.

730
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: But that something like that could happen in this part

731
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: of my career, you know, not having that support, you

732
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: know that you usually have. You got a record coming out,

733
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: you gotta label, you gotta with none of that. Uh.

734
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: Vince Gill put in his heart to open that door

735
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: for me, and so I went in, you know, with

736
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: all the courage that I had, with the love of

737
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: the openness, and um just deliver. And then I went

738
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: home and I wept about it, and I thought about

739
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: how amazing, what a crazy, amazing opportunity that was. So

740
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: you go and it's time in your life you're gonna

741
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: try the voice? How did how did that happen to

742
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: where someone said it to you? You see it on

743
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: the internet like what was your first lettle may try

744
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: the voice? Since we couldn't get any traction with the record,

745
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: events produced so beautifully um covid hit shut everything down,

746
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: and I had a you know, conversation with myself, like

747
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do when everything opens back up?

748
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Because those big tours you had, the stadium tours, they're

749
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: not gonna be there and they may change everyone who knows.

750
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: So I was really serious about Okay, I'm ready to

751
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: be a solo artist. Again. So I'm gonna put those

752
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 1: things in place, and then you know, the Voice sends

753
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: out these emails like every hour comes to the Voice,

754
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, to everyone, the undreds of millions of people.

755
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 1: And then I said, okay, you know what I'm gonna

756
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a video. I didn't even tell. Okay,

757
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: my fiance, we've been together twenty six years. He tours

758
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: with you know, Billy Joel Crosses, doesn't ask Melissa Etheris.

759
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: So we're like two professional musicians and we support each other.

760
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: So David, Um, I was like, I'm not even gonna

761
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: tell David because I know the first thing he's gonna

762
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: say is what are you doing? And I gotta teach

763
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: you anything why I wasted your time? But I knew

764
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: I needed television in order to stay in this game.

765
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get some TV. So I said,

766
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send this video and I'm not gonna tell anyone,

767
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: no one, and and um I did. And I was like,

768
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: they're either going to reject me because I got too

769
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: much experience, or they're gonna let me on. And if

770
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: they do that, then I know that this road I

771
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: want to go on, this path will be over if

772
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: I can handle it. So I decided to leave my

773
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: ego at the house. They said, yes, we want you

774
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: to come to l A. So I decided, I'm gonna

775
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: leave my ego at the house and everything I've ever

776
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: learned and all the great artists I work with them

777
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: are going to clean slate because it's reality TV. And

778
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, my generation is about you don't tell anybody anything,

779
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: you don't share anything, and whatever you do, don't talk

780
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: about yourself. And today's world, you have to talk about

781
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: yourself every second. What did you sing in your audition

782
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: the blind audition was? I made it, you know, a

783
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: hard song, which was the shocka com version of we

784
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: Can Work It Out, which is a Beatles song, and

785
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: she got work it out yea. So she she had

786
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: a version of her Arrangement one and was released. It's

787
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: hard to sing, but it's a brilliant version of that,

788
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: and I know, I knew they had never heard of it.

789
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: So I that was my song and the goal was

790
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: to make it seem like I'm not breathing because it's

791
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: very high to sing and it's hard to sing, and

792
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: that I got full control because that's my that's my technique.

793
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: Is having vocal control and if I could, you know,

794
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: blow these coaches away, then I'll get on that show.

795
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: And I had a nightmare, you know that no one

796
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: would turn around. That was my nightmare. No, that's all

797
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta kill it and you know,

798
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: enslay these coaches and everyone. So in the event they say, hey,

799
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: you don't fit what we're doing this year, I won't

800
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: be devastated. I know that I slayed it and I

801
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: just didn't fit it. So you go, you sing how

802
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: long until somebody turned and who was at first? Or

803
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: do you remember remember without if you hadn't seen it back,

804
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: what you ever remembered? I haven't watched okay, good, but

805
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: this is coming from member. Okay, I get I started

806
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: to sing. I'm singing like three lines four lines in

807
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: Blake blocks John Legend because I figured I'm older, I'm classic.

808
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sing only classic songs. They're gonna have to

809
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: kick me off the show because I don't know anything new.

810
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: And he but he blocks you on Legend like early

811
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: in the game, he's the only one to turn around.

812
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: And but that helped Mike strategy. I had, like strategy,

813
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: like Blake chooses me then that's gonna be good. It's

814
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: gonna build my Nashville brand. Okay, perfect John Legend, Okay,

815
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I'll going to you know uh R and b World

816
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: and you know Kelly could be stupid Diva Arianta, I

817
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: can do some. They asked music or something. She lets

818
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: me do something. So I had a plan. I was

819
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: just hoping someone would turn around, and Blake did it.

820
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: So when Blake turned around and then he blocked you

821
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: on Legend. Finally when y'all legend turned around, it was

822
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 1: too late and all the others. So okay, Blake turns

823
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: around in the song and then they ask you after

824
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: talking to you, you tell them who you are, where

825
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: you come from, what you're doing. Um that's when um,

826
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: John s, what who are you going to choose? And

827
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: I said, I have to go with Blake because he

828
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: chose me first too, so something inside of him inspired him.

829
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: So I had to go with the person it chose

830
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: me first. So it's you and Blake, and I vaguely

831
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: remember this now full disclosure. I work. I've been working

832
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: on me like an idle for four years, so you

833
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: were like the enemy, not used, but the show. So

834
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: I was always like, I have attention to that show.

835
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: I'd say, what I mean, I don't know, but I

836
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: do remember did Blake and if this is not you

837
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: forgive me, But did Blake say to you that he

838
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: he's never wanted anyone to win more? He said, yes,

839
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Because they the four

840
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: coaches are at the top of their genres. They're just

841
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: at the top. So they could recognize my body of work,

842
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: they could recognize that my technique, they can recognize everything

843
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: that takes like I'm them. I'm just not famous. And

844
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: they understood the quality. And they knew that I had

845
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: put in a lot of work. So you know, he

846
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: knew I had a long history after week after week

847
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: or and I kept staying in there with all these

848
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: younger kids, and you know some were amateurs, but you know,

849
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: my headspace was right in my personality all that, and uh,

850
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: he knew my history by then that I've been in

851
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 1: it for so long and never stopped. That did something

852
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: for him, never gave up, you know, And and I

853
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: wasn't giving up even after I broke my elbow. I

854
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: just kept going. They finished second finished finalists. I'm the voice,

855
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: they are the voices. It's three but they're sweet and

856
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: they work hard too. You finished, you don't win, but

857
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: you're close. I'm there all the way. The last three

858
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: weeks I had two broken arms. Nobody could tell. So

859
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: are you if you put the weight in one hand

860
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: or the other? Are you more excited about the exposure,

861
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: because that's what that is. Yes, you know, I don't

862
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: think it's twisted on anyone now that you don't leave

863
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: that show with the big record deal and an automatic

864
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: setup for for the future. But you do leave that

865
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: show with notoriety, with um a lot of fans that

866
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: can now follow you through the rest of your career.

867
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: So are you more excited about that? Or are you

868
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: more excited that you didn't win the show. I have

869
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: to say that I didn't know I would even make

870
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: it that far because I strategically went in knowing I

871
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: was only gonna sing a style of music and it

872
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: didn't include what's happening currently. So I didn't even think

873
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: I would last as long as I did. But I also,

874
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, told myself every week, just concentrate on the

875
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: challenge of the week. You know, I don't want to,

876
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, think too ahead of myself. Uh So I

877
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: would I didn't even think I would make it that far,

878
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: but I started getting you know, every week. You know,

879
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: now you were in the finals. Okay, um, you know,

880
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I it overwhelm me thinking about it.

881
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think I would last, but then when I

882
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: got in top five, I was like, I want to win.

883
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: Let's stop two. Yeah, the terms like I don't I

884
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: don't care what the contract says. I don't care, but

885
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not used to get in second place. But but

886
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, the exposure was what I was doing any way,

887
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: because I know the music business game, and here I

888
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: am in my fifties, you know, saying I still have value.

889
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: And I was able to prove that week after week,

890
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: a million people watching, and and with that that I

891
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: got to expose our need and the fuel I need

892
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: to keep going. But keep doing, keep going, singing the

893
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: songs I want to sing, keep going, doing it the

894
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: way I want to do it, and not be worried

895
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: about not fitting a mold. Like great producer Paul Whirley

896
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: was like, there should be a Wendy Moten genre. That's

897
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: how he felt about me, Like like, uh, Wilson, I mean,

898
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: like Willie Nelson has its own genre. So with that

899
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: in my mind, that was my goal. And I said,

900
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: if I could handle the is, I can create that,

901
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: and so that was the goal. So when I stayed

902
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: all the way to the end, even though I was injured,

903
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: I had what I needed, you know, and girl named

904
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: Tom they are great kids and they're talented, and you know,

905
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people probably felt like I had too

906
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: much experience, you know what I mean, and give them

907
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: a shot, and I'm okay with it. I got what

908
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: I needed, which was the exposure and the fuel I

909
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: need to get booked and to do gigs and continue

910
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: to have a music career. Is there a different fulfillment

911
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: for you? And I'm sure it's different, But I guess

912
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, what's the difference in the fulfillment between being

913
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: front and center and doing your own thing Wendy then

914
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: singing a much bigger show about being in the background

915
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: of a Tim and Faith or a Martina, Like, what's

916
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: the difference and how it makes you feel? Well? Because

917
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: I was a recording artist first, I knew what it

918
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: was like to be out front, so I could be

919
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: a lot more sympathetic two changes or mood twings or whatever,

920
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: because this is a lot. It's a lot so and

921
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, if they're stressed over

922
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: something has nothing to do with you at all. They

923
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: got a lot going on. So that helped me, you know,

924
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: be more sympathetic in getting what they need. And I

925
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: had already had a conversation with myself with which is,

926
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a background singer, two you can

927
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: figure out what you're doing, then that's what you need

928
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: to do. And so I remember Martina when she h

929
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: John McBride told her because she did this motown record,

930
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: so she needed three background singers. John McBride, whoever recorded

931
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: with several times a blackbird, it was like, you need

932
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: to get Wendy Molten. Okay. So she had never heard

933
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: of me. She found me, sang on the record. I said,

934
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: you need to go on the road. Let me know.

935
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Went on the road with her. She got to know me.

936
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: She was like with something, something was different about you.

937
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was. And she did her

938
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: research and then she was like, you're like a Whitney Houston.

939
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't even want you behind me, but I'm like, listen,

940
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: I need your money to pay for my dreams right now.

941
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: Until I can figure it out. And she was like, okay, deal,

942
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: because I said, I'm here for you. So the whole

943
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: goal if I'm singing background, is really to be a

944
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: part of that artist's dreams and there's no battle. Now.

945
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: When I was ready to be a solo artist, save

946
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: my money, Vince Gill came into my life. He wanted

947
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: to produce me, so I knew I would have uh,

948
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: the quality would be there. And had I not done

949
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: that project with Vince, I probably wouldn't have done the

950
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: voice because I hadn't been able to be real creative.

951
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: But doing the voice and choosing those songs, I knew

952
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: how to deliver. Here's my awkward question, and again I'm

953
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna ask you not to be humble. Um, if I

954
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: had someone singing and singing, it's not my forte. I

955
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: do comedy and I do some singing, but as comedy, right,

956
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: So so no that I'm just gonna use me as

957
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: an example. But if I had someone singing behind me

958
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: and they were far superior of a singer than me,

959
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: it wouldn't make me feel uncomfortable. Um, and you've sing

960
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: with so many people and not even to mention it.

961
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: But was that ever a factor, And did you ever

962
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: have to kind of pull back a little bit because

963
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: of that? No, I never pulled back. But I also

964
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: I looked at it like this, I was getting paid

965
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: for self control. You know. If I said yes to

966
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: the gig and I said no too many. But if

967
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: I say yes to the gig, I'm there to learn

968
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: something too. I'm there to learn something till I can

969
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: figure out what I want to do. I still don't know,

970
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: but I still need to make a living. And my

971
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: goal was to just be a support you know, um,

972
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: and you know, not even talk about what I did.

973
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: I never even talked about my past. If I'm there

974
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: the same backgrounds, it's not important that I'm a lead singer.

975
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Is there a difference. I know there's difference. Teach me

976
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: the difference and how you perform even vocally as a

977
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: background singer versus a you're you're at your stage, are

978
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: you singing differently? Oh? Yeah, you're listening more and you

979
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: want to become For me, I wanted to become a

980
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: part of that person's d n A. That's why when

981
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: I got the gig with Vince, I checked out who

982
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: he who was singing with him before, and it was

983
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: the great voice of Don Sears. She passed away, and

984
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: he started looking for that special blend that they had.

985
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: And what you become is you breathe when they breathe.

986
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: You hold the notes as long as they do. And

987
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: I had already had that with Julio Iglesias. He's very

988
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: particular and he used to always say, you don't look

989
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: like you signed with him. Had to be board inline classical,

990
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: and had crazy control and he wouldn't even give me

991
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: monitors to hear, so it didn't matter if it was

992
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: sixty thou people or twenty thousand people. He was like,

993
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: a great singer doesn't need to hear yet he's got

994
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: four in the front and four and I was like, okay.

995
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: So it made my ears really great because I was

996
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: trying to get what's coming back from the house and

997
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: you listen more. So, if I'm going to decide to

998
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: work with an artist, the idea is to have that blend,

999
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: the tonality that match their's and so I breathe with them.

1000
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: I create have that you know that thing, and it

1001
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: takes work, and it takes making a choice to do that,

1002
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: and I've chosen. I said yes to the gig, so

1003
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll get to my stuff. And when I get to

1004
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: my stuff, I'm very particular, so I understand them. I

1005
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: don't get all bent out of shade what I would

1006
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: do it this way? Or how come they doing it

1007
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: this way? So I don't ask those questions. That's how

1008
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: they wanted, just what they're gonna get. And you know,

1009
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: everybody knew I was ultimately professional and I worked hard

1010
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: at that. I do that on purpose, you know, and

1011
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: because I wanted. When I'm the boss, you know, I

1012
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: just did some sold out shows in Memphis, and when

1013
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm the boss, you know, I expect a certain thing too.

1014
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: One of my friends who I was having dinner with,

1015
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure Texas you right after we had dinner. I

1016
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: was having dinner with them, um, maybe last week or so.

1017
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: His names Scott and pretty prominent fella in the opery world.

1018
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: And um, that's not even why I like him. But

1019
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: we're sitting we didn't talk anything about work or music,

1020
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: and uh, we were just talking about some friends and

1021
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: he had mentioned he do you know Wendy Mortin. I

1022
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: was like, I know she is, and he was like, man,

1023
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: I think you know, you guys would really enjoy spending

1024
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: some time together That's literally how we came together in

1025
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: the same way that I've had people vouched for me

1026
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: and has set had set up things for me, and

1027
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: it's turned. Most things that turned sometimes they don't know

1028
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: they're really wonderful relationships. And somebody like Scott or Vince

1029
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: vouched for you. I was like, what heck, I want

1030
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: to bring over the house and let's talk about this.

1031
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: So how what's that? How do you know Scott at all?

1032
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: I have to tell you that my first performance at

1033
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: the Opry after the Voice was February twelve, and I

1034
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: met Scott that night and we were just talking. I

1035
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: didn't even know who he was, but you know, I

1036
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: like to talk to people. I'm personable, and we were

1037
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: just talking and we just hit it off so well.

1038
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: And then he just finally was like, here's my card

1039
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: and me give me the one with the cell phone.

1040
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh. I read the card. I'm like,

1041
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: good gosh, a mighty. Why do you think he's sent

1042
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: you to me? Well? I asked about you. Okay, thanks

1043
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: to my good friend Katie cap over here, she was like, listen,

1044
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: you need Bobby Bones and I was like, oh my gosh.

1045
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: And so I was talking to me. We were talking

1046
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: so long, thirty minutes together. I was like, and by

1047
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: the way, um, how can I reach Bobby Bones. It

1048
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: was like that, and he was like, Hey, I'm gonna

1049
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: have lunch with it. And it was just like that,

1050
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: And of course I was trying to get to you.

1051
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: Then I saw you you interview when you interview everyone

1052
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: but you you just recently interviewed my friend Sarah Bugs

1053
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: then and you know Adam Sean Phil So it was

1054
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: like you know all the stars as you do. So

1055
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: it was just one of those like things. And I

1056
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: think he liked me enough to say, hey, I'll mention

1057
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: you you know what, because I'm sure they're I'm gonna

1058
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: not be humful for a second. There are ten thousand

1059
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: people that come to him and say, hey, can you

1060
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. And then one I'm telling you, and

1061
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: in the history of our relationship, because Scott's a big deal,

1062
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: in the history of our relationship, he has not said, hey,

1063
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: please look, take a look at this artist. And he

1064
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: didn't even say take a look at this artist. He said,

1065
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: I think you would really enjoy Wendy who she is,

1066
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: what she's doing, what she's done, and I said, Okay,

1067
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna you vouch for someone. And then

1068
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: I started to research you and I'm just a big

1069
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: fan and I, like I said, I had known the

1070
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: album that you did. I just didn't know everything about.

1071
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know um why you did it. I didn't

1072
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: know if you're still doing it. I would see pop

1073
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: up at the operation sometimes you know you didn't pop

1074
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: up over there. So with all of that, like what

1075
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: when you leave here today, like, what is the goal

1076
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years for you in this space? Well,

1077
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: this space going on the voice being under microscope every week?

1078
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: I said, if I could do that, then the goal

1079
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: when I sing, I foundly found how James Taylor and A. Wretha,

1080
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: how they touched people and people keep coming back to

1081
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: shows over and over. Now I figured out how to

1082
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: do that for myself. And I said, when I figured

1083
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: it out, how to deliver every time the voice was

1084
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: presented to me, to check out my theory in front

1085
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: of me some people, and once if I could succeed

1086
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: on that, I'm able to handle that kind of pressure.

1087
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: Then the goal was to just get on a pop

1088
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: symphony circuit globally performing our centers and sing classic songs

1089
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: and originals and you know, covers, and the opera gives

1090
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: me that opportunity to sing the songs I grew up

1091
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: listening to as a kid. I mean, never in my

1092
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: not in my imagination anywhere did I think I would

1093
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: be on the Grand Old ore Prey singing traditional country songs.

1094
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: How is that possible? How did I make my he

1095
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: hall dreams? How did someone you are using a jingle

1096
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: in a studio? You know? I mean, it's just to me,

1097
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: that's the same that there are two kind of things

1098
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: happening here at the same time. My favorite thing though,

1099
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: that that has been parallel to this entire conversation between us,

1100
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: as you never knew what you wanted to do. You're

1101
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: always just waiting for the next thing. You're like, I'm

1102
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: gonna do this until we figure it out. But it

1103
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: seems like like that's that's who you are, Like there

1104
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: are no restrictions on what you think you can do,

1105
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: and there are no restrictions on what you may do

1106
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: because you don't even know what all the options are yet.

1107
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: And like I respect that, I admire that. So when

1108
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: you say to Scott, and I don't know, you said,

1109
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: if I want to meet him. I want to talk

1110
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: to him. Why Why did you want to talk to me?

1111
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: What could I have lent to? What? Because you were

1112
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: doing things so wonderfully at a level that you don't

1113
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: really need my help. But why? Because of who you

1114
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: are and you know, people listen to you, and I

1115
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: feel like you are another part of you know, my

1116
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: journey here. If if you felt like, hey, I will

1117
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: have her on the show and find out who she

1118
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: is and get people to know who she is. More that,

1119
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: if you did that, then that means I really am

1120
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: on the right path. You know, you could easily pass

1121
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: me up to why what is she doing? I don't know.

1122
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it. I think, I'm sure. But

1123
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he mentioned it to you and you

1124
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: entertained it for half a second. He got me on

1125
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: your show today lets me know that I'm on the

1126
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: right path. You're still every Monday night, Every Monday night.

1127
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm a time jumper. I've been a time jumper for

1128
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: three years. Vince brought me to the time jumpers, and

1129
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure half of them was like, why this the

1130
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: only girl we could find in Nashville? The same country music? Really,

1131
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: but half the team felt like I was their future

1132
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: because they knew I love the music. But um, when

1133
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: Vince was gonna go to the Eagles, I think he

1134
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: felt I don't know what he felt. I hadn't talked

1135
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: to me about it, but he brought me there and

1136
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: I used to sit in and the band said when

1137
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: Vince would go out of town sometimes, um, you know,

1138
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: they would take breaks and sometimes they would lose the

1139
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: audience a little bit because you know, Vince not there.

1140
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: We came to to see events and the time dumpers

1141
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: of course because they're extraordinary and like some of the

1142
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: most amazing musicians. Um. But they said when you would

1143
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: come to sit in, people wouldn't leave, they'd stay. And

1144
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so now I know my value there.

1145
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: And so every Monday night, you know, we've been selling out.

1146
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: And what I learned from Julio eglaisis is how to

1147
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: be a great communicator through song. So my goal is

1148
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: always to make the room go quiet. And that's what

1149
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm good at, making the wrong go quiet. What people

1150
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: are listening. This poet I met from like Cambridge or whatever,

1151
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: he was there Monday night. He was like, you have

1152
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: this thing that you make people come in, make you

1153
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: draw them in, and you make us lean forward. So

1154
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: I know that's my strength. As long as I got

1155
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: a great song that has a great story. How are

1156
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: you as singing in the morning? I mean, you know

1157
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: I can do it. I can do it. I can

1158
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: still do that. Well, I'm gonna ask you because in

1159
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, why don't you come and

1160
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: perform on the radio show. I will do it. Let

1161
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: me know when, what, how what I will do it.

1162
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: I think it would be awesome. I think I'd be

1163
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: honored to have you all. And I've just enjoyed this

1164
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: last hour we've been for an hour. Are basically so good.

1165
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: I think you have just a great story, but an

1166
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: even better kind of outlook and an even better um present,

1167
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: meaning you're always in the present, but you're always like

1168
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: you know what, this is great, Let's see what else happened? Right? Like?

1169
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: I like that because I'm not like that. I'm I'm

1170
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm a neurotic. I'm a head case. Okay, yeah, I'm

1171
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: a head case. That's why you're genius. That's why you know.

1172
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't that just I don't know if that's true

1173
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: any of that, but I yeah, I think it would

1174
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: be an amazing um, an amazing thing from the rest

1175
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: of my audience to hear you perform, which we obviously

1176
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: can't do here. And so I think it'd be cool.

1177
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Thank you. I would love it. Thank you. So Okay,

1178
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: well what do you do? This is a personalish question.

1179
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: What do you do? Like when you leave here, We're

1180
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: gonna have dinner and I'm probably gonna go with Katie

1181
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: and get some content because she's she's a sergeant. We

1182
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: need content. Oh, it's like, okay, do that. I just

1183
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: got back from Memphis, Tennessee had two sold out shows

1184
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: place called the Holleran, and yesterday I got a proclamation

1185
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: on the house floor. I saw that. Yeah, what the

1186
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: state of Tennessee like named you or call it's what

1187
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: do they say about you? You know I could I

1188
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: was on a fog, to be honest. I was just

1189
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: standing there and they were all watching. But everybody stayed

1190
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: in their seats, and you know, they they just talk

1191
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: about what you've done, how you contribute to our state.

1192
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know about like getting a day like

1193
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: in Memphis. April two is Wendy Moten Day. The county

1194
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 1: and the city and the mayor and everybody was there. Okay,

1195
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: I get a key. Okay, I get a key. Yesterday

1196
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: in Nashville, just being on the Chambers floor. You know,

1197
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: they got this big, huge thing and they were like, listen,

1198
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the real thing in a couple of weeks.

1199
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: So I didn't even get a chance to even read

1200
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: to see what's on the thing. But I don't know

1201
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: if they gave me a I don't think they gave

1202
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: me a day or the key, but just some type

1203
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: of proclamation and then you've been invited to the floor.

1204
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: That was big. And my family they all drove in

1205
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: from Memphis, and uh so, you know, I got a

1206
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: couple of gigs coming up the Lincoln Center and may

1207
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: um don't want the New York Pops and three kids

1208
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: and shows like that Berland. So I'm live is my

1209
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: strength and the ideas I want to, you know, heal

1210
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: people through songs like I've heard from my favorite artist

1211
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: my whole life and all that is amazing. I just

1212
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: really just want to know what you're gonna for dinners.

1213
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm starving right, Oh my gosh, I'm not great too.

1214
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: Probably some quirkies barbecue up right in the street. It's Memphis.

1215
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: It's Memphis barbecue. Yeah, it's kind of it's a I

1216
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: agree dry up, do you know under yes, yes, yes absolutely.

1217
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm from Arkansas, so it's all Memphis. That's true. But

1218
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, even though it's Memphis, it's still the guys

1219
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: down the street. They don't only do it up like

1220
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: when you drive two hours to the left. You know,

1221
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: well that's true too, but I'm just saying that's what

1222
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna eat. Okay, that's what I had two

1223
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: nights ago. So I'm like, may don't know what I'm

1224
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: just saying. You know, you know it's Memphis barbecue. Well, okay,

1225
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: look we've we've said it all here. You guys follow

1226
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: Wendy at Wendy Moten m o t eat in on

1227
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: in to Graham. And here's the thing I'm gonna say,

1228
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: not do. Do not listen to Love is a painful thing.

1229
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: Do not do not because that's not just it doesn't

1230
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: even exist in my mind anymore. The demo I did

1231
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: like five years ago for somebody, if anybody listens to it,

1232
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: it's bad luck. We're gonna say that, do not listen

1233
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: to that song. And then but do listen to Wendy

1234
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: when she's on the show in a couple of weeks

1235
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: performing and there we have read asked you get one question?

1236
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: We ask we these are our video guys. He's been

1237
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: the one doing all the video changes here. He gets

1238
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: one question at the end of every interview. Read what

1239
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: would you like to ask? All right, let's see with

1240
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: I guess someone as um trained as you and who's

1241
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: just done it for many years and has such a

1242
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: big and powerful voice, what do you do to keep

1243
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: your voice intact? Because I feel like my voice goes

1244
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: out just from talking. So like, I'm sure, um, you've

1245
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: had to battle different situations like that. So just what's

1246
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: some technique it's dying right now. Actually that's the next question. Well,

1247
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: what I do is um, I like to drink hot

1248
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: tea apple apple cider tea before I perform and warmed

1249
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: everything up and it's really sweet and full of sugar

1250
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: and um. You know, my workaholic, so I don't get

1251
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: us much sleep, but when I have downtime, I'll stay

1252
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: in bed two days just watching TV. So my downtime

1253
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch like this whole last five five days,

1254
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: I hadn't gotten any sleep at all, and I probably

1255
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: won't get any sleep till next week. And that's okay,

1256
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: But um, you know I should two vocal exercises. But

1257
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: I got a gift and as long as I do

1258
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: just a little, you know I'll be able to sing. Okay,

1259
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: But um, I don't. I don't do much. I have

1260
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: horrible you know, I don't even know what you call

1261
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: it because I don't do it. Um. I used to give,

1262
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: but I take care of it, you know what. I

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Speaker 1: don't drink too much. I don't smoke. You know, I

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Speaker 1: made choices like it's I'll make my living, so you

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Speaker 1: know you can choose. But again, so I just like

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Speaker 1: you don't. I don't have a glass of wine. I

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Speaker 1: don't milk for hours. So basically, get a little bit

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Speaker 1: of rest, do what you want on your off off days.

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Speaker 1: Just make whatever makes you happy. And my apples side

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Speaker 1: or tea is what I drink. Okay, awesome, I've always

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Speaker 1: heard tea works really well. But sometimes it's like you

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Speaker 1: forget that sleep and just drinking water and like a

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Speaker 1: lot of water, Yes, you forget about sleep and drink watery,

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Speaker 1: that's trouble, but honestly supportive things you can do like

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Speaker 1: literally anything. Yeah, Wendy, thank you. Oh my god. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you soon. I hope you've enjoyed this as much

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Speaker 1: as I have been amazing. I'm telling you the fact

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Speaker 1: that you have me on your show right now is

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Speaker 1: so huge. It's like, right apart of like this whole

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Speaker 1: idea when I said yes to the boys, here I

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Speaker 1: am on your show. I think you're giving me a

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Speaker 1: little too much credit, but I will accept it. It's

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Speaker 1: like I'm not asking Katie, but I will accept it,

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Speaker 1: all right, Wendy and follow at Wendy m O T

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Speaker 1: e in and you will here from her again soon

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Speaker 1: performing on my show. And that is it.