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Speaker 3: Okay, have you sent your Oh you say your bar?

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Speaker 1: I guess he didn't want to do new ones without

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, he's not all of our no no,

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Speaker 1: he's my music all right. Yeah, pretty Ricky is what

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Speaker 4: You know, we mentioned after the Lions big win against

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Speaker 4: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Monday Night Football, that you know,

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Speaker 4: the defense looks like they're better, even though they're all

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Speaker 4: banged up and they've got the injuries in the secondary.

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Speaker 4: The defense actually looks better than even last year. And

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Speaker 4: last year's defense was such that their defensive coordinator got

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Speaker 4: a head coaching job, Aaron Glenn going to New York

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Speaker 4: to be the head coach of the Jets. So how's

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Speaker 4: that going. The Jets are awful. Pete Prisco says they're

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Speaker 4: the worst team in the league. They're the only winless

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Speaker 4: team in the NFL right now, sitting at zero to seven.

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Speaker 4: And Justin Fields, their quarterback, who also chose to go

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Speaker 4: He got benched for Tyron Taylor in the game against

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Speaker 4: Carolina over the weekend. He was banged up earlier this year,

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Speaker 4: and so Aaron Glenn was asked by I believe Rich

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Speaker 5: Well, that's something that you know, I want to continue

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Speaker 3: The thing is, I want to make.

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Speaker 5: Sure that I make the right decision, and I don't

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Speaker 4: All right, does that sound like somebody who's going to

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Speaker 4: be making a change at quarterback? Yes, yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the fact I mean, once they start saying, once

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Speaker 1: Like just like how he jumped that. You know, it

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Speaker 3: But this to me is it goes back before the

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Speaker 3: Now that's not the direction you wanted to go. So

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Speaker 3: go to Tarrot Taylor, I mean, one, you've got a

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Speaker 3: So, I don't know why you make that decision and

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Speaker 3: this is one of the more damning years for looking

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Speaker 1: And that's saying something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in a way, it is. But then

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Speaker 3: no point that everyone rallied around Robert Saal on that

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Speaker 1: Well, I always said, you can't perform, never will, never happen,

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Speaker 1: were so all. All this really says is that the

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Speaker 4: Is he going to be a one and done coach?

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Speaker 4: I don't think that happens, because I think that would

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Speaker 4: be Woody Johnson admitting that he made a mistake and

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Speaker 4: if you were willing to get involved, to want to

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Speaker 4: better plan for the organization. I think he's going to

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Speaker 4: get another year. But they're really bad, man, like really

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Speaker 1: They got to take a stab out of quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Well, they're going to be drafting one overalls. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so if they, I mean, so there you go. You

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Speaker 1: way it ended with Oldbrick and with Salah, like it

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Speaker 1: just you gotta have, you gotta I mean, and look

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Speaker 1: they had a quarterback. I mean, you had Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: and it didn't work and he wanted to stay. It's

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Speaker 1: just not The dysfunction will always nullify anything positive. It

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Speaker 1: just will. It'll never Talent will never outdo dysfunction. It'll

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Speaker 1: never do it. And you're seeing it play out in

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Speaker 1: real time. I watched it play out with Washington real time.

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Speaker 1: People who are New York Jets fans or are spectators

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Speaker 1: like at the highest level. Because talent, the talent is

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Speaker 1: there on that team, they just can't seem to win.

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Speaker 1: As Q mentioned, I mean, you got guys that have

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Speaker 1: what that element is, that current of energy that is

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Speaker 1: in that building. That's how you know that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Because you get different people and yet you get the

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Speaker 3: It's like same results.

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Speaker 1: So and they're worse this year, like they're actually pushing

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Speaker 1: ever gone winless the Jets? Yeah, oh god, I don't

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Speaker 4: You know, Hey, Brady, who do you think is going

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Speaker 4: to be the number one pick? I know it's early,

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Speaker 4: but if the Jets are picking number one overall, who

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Speaker 3: Mendoza right now? Yeah, Like he's played the most consistent,

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Speaker 3: like best football wire to wire. I think it'll be

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Speaker 3: interesting to see what happens with Dante or out Oregan.

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Speaker 3: with kurtin Signetti in this system. But when I watched him,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he can make you know, the

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Speaker 3: Like the tape's not great. I mean, obviously I would

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Speaker 3: not imagine Arch is gonna come out. Leonora Sellers has

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Speaker 3: him quite as much. But you know, mate John material

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Speaker 3: There's two big jobs that are opening right now, Penn

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Speaker 1: There is way more Division one scholarships divided. There's way

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Speaker 1: And the bottom line is is that again Penn State

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Speaker 1: Do you see the build out that's going on with

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Speaker 1: a damn good job of handling that role and responsibility.

435
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Speaker 1: Then we have the reigning Super Bowl champs, and we

436
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Speaker 1: have a team that competes every single year on the

437
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: other side of the coin in the AFC with the Steelers.

438
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Speaker 1: It's a football state and they've all won, They've all

439
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: won Super Bowls, and there is two national titles that

440
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Speaker 1: is at Penn State like old eighties. It's old, but

441
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Speaker 1: nonetheless it's still a place that has the res and

442
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Speaker 1: has the value to be able to build up what

443
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Speaker 1: it is that you want to have. The community supports

444
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Speaker 1: being able to build a national title contender if it does.

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Speaker 4: If you were Lane Kiffen and you even entertained the

446
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Speaker 4: idea of leaving, which I don't I don't know that

447
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: you know, leaving for Florida would.

448
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Speaker 3: Be well, okay, better than his position. So so I

449
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Speaker 3: understand where you're going with this. Well, let's let's let's

450
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Speaker 3: understand why each school did what they did. You know,

451
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Speaker 3: obviously James Franklin who you know, and Lamar you've talked

452
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Speaker 3: about this, we've talked about this. You know, he built

453
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Speaker 3: up this Penn State program from you know, a couple

454
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Speaker 3: of years of Bill O'Brien, but really a really tough time,

455
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Speaker 3: and he got it to a point where now we

456
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Speaker 3: look at them as a team that's going to contend

457
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Speaker 3: every year for the Big Ten. And you know, last year,

458
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Speaker 3: like you pointed out, it was getting closer to trying

459
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Speaker 3: to play for national championship. Now this year, you know,

460
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Speaker 3: I look at what happened when they brought an Andy

461
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Speaker 3: colden Nick, and I really kind of pinpoint that as

462
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Speaker 3: the decision that ultimately did him in because cold of Nikky,

463
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: yes an offensive, creative mind. Bad fit. Though with Drew Aller,

464
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: it's just a bad fit. Like the offensive system he

465
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Speaker 3: tried to run, it was similar to what he was.

466
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Speaker 3: He did it Kansas, And the truth of the matter is,

467
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: like I see Penn State and there's a lot of

468
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Speaker 3: teams that fall in this category. Wisconsin's the same thing.

469
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Speaker 3: Get out a shotgun, go under center, bring back a

470
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Speaker 3: full back, bring back multiple tight ends. Like, does Penn

471
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Speaker 3: State have any issue recruiting tight ends?

472
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Speaker 4: No?

473
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Speaker 3: Okay, great, go find two, go find three that you

474
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Speaker 3: can put on the field. We have to they have

475
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Speaker 3: any problem recruiting running backs?

476
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Speaker 1: We know we have three.

477
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Speaker 3: No problem recruiting running backs. And you know what else

478
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: Penn State can find. They usually have one or two receivers.

479
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: He's usually one or two at least one. Yeah, So

480
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: what do you do? Go play traditional old school football?

481
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Speaker 3: What's your damn quarterback? Under center? Run the damn ball,

482
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Speaker 3: play action, boots, all those things Alur could do, But

483
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: you put him in this drop back passing game. Spread

484
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Speaker 3: it out, five empty sets like maybe every once in

485
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Speaker 3: a while, but that's not what you can hang your

486
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: hat on. That's not the identity of what Penn State

487
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: has been or what they've recruited to Lineman tight ends

488
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: running like those are your skill position players. Then go

489
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Speaker 3: create an offense around it. So that one decision. Even

490
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Speaker 3: though at the time I was like, Okay, this is

491
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Speaker 3: great creative, he's a good coach, like we saw him

492
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Speaker 3: have success at Kansas, it ultimately did it in because

493
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Speaker 3: the pairing with drew out. It just it never fit.

494
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: It was an awkward fit for what that offense should

495
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Speaker 3: be and what they were trying to do, and ultimately

496
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Speaker 3: it led to this string of losses. And you know,

497
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Speaker 3: now James Franklin isn't there. But the point I want

498
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: to get to is both these schools made decisions because

499
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Speaker 3: they have someone in mind. You don't fire your coach,

500
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: you don't do it in season, you don't do it

501
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Speaker 3: the way they both did unless there is that one person.

502
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Speaker 3: For Florida, it's Kiffin that's been reported that's kind of

503
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Speaker 3: well known. For Penn State, I think it's Matt Rule.

504
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm not positive, but the relationship with the ad pat

505
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: Craft and everything else with the history of Matt being there,

506
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Speaker 3: like you kind of look at it and say, Okay,

507
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: maybe it's Matt Rule. But I think that's one interesting

508
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: part to all this is if it is Matt Rule,

509
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Speaker 3: you know, James Franklin, for whatever you want to say

510
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: about his lack of success, had more Top twenty five

511
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: wins than Matt Rule has had at the college level.

512
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Speaker 3: It's so like, is Matt Ruling upgrade? If that's who

513
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Speaker 3: they're going after over James Franklin.

514
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Speaker 1: I'm not entertaining this one. I will stay out of it.

515
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: Why because I'm close. It's a legitimate question. I'm close

516
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Speaker 1: to the situation, so okay, I don't want to tell

517
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Speaker 1: on myself by responding to it. I think both fine coaches.

518
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: I think they both have great coaching resumes. I think

519
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: we know the story of Matt Ruhle and and his

520
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: connection to the school.

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Speaker 4: It feels like the appeal of Matt Rule over James

522
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Speaker 4: Franklin would be that James Franklin felt like a little

523
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Speaker 4: bit of an outsider even though he embraced the community.

524
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Speaker 4: And it just seems I don't but I'm no.

525
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's great to be able to say, oh,

526
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Speaker 1: he played at Penn State.

527
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Speaker 4: But I mean, if Matt Rule didn't have a background

528
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Speaker 4: at Penn State, would even be in the discussion for

529
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Speaker 4: this job.

530
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Speaker 1: It probably wouldn't be as loud as it is. It

531
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be as much of a discussion point. But there's

532
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Speaker 1: a possibility. I mean probably not actually like no, if

533
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Speaker 1: he didn't go to Penn State, no, it wouldn't be

534
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Speaker 1: a question.

535
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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

536
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Speaker 1: They love how much they he loves Penn State though.

537
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Speaker 3: Well, and look it's as Alma Modern. There's that connection

538
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: we talked about, you know, the fact that as as

539
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: he's a former player, he's been in the program, he understands,

540
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Like that's like what it takes, you know. But again,

541
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Speaker 3: I think you go back and you look at you know,

542
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: Matt Rules resume as a college football head coach and

543
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: Graham you could say, always been at Temple, Baylor and Nebraska.

544
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: So like, you know, maybe it's more of an uphill

545
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: climb versus being the head coach of Penn State and

546
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: playing top twenty five teams. But James Franklin was sixteen

547
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: and thirty six, which is, by the way, not great.

548
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: Four and twenty one versus you know, top ten opponents.

549
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: Again not great, but it's still better than Matt Rules record.

550
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: Like you're I guess what I'm pointing out is if

551
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Speaker 3: you compare it to Florida, where Florida's bringing in a

552
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Speaker 3: guy in Lane Kiff who has been proven to knock

553
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: off top ten teams, top twenty five teams. He's built

554
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: up most places he's been, whether it's FAU or Old

555
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: Miss into contenders for that conference or even in the

556
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: case of competing for that, Like, you know what you're

557
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: gonna be getting. I think with Matt Rule, the interesting

558
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: thing is you're you know what you're bringing as far

559
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 3: as a man. You know what you're bringing as far

560
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: as a recruiter and what he's gonna build in regards

561
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: to a program, but as far as the track record

562
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: of success and winning games a little bit more of

563
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: a question mark. And I feel like you've moved on

564
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: from a guy that you had concerns about that with

565
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 3: and you're bringing in a guy who hasn't as much

566
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Speaker 3: success with that.

567
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Speaker 1: That's if what you're saying is is accurate, It.

568
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: One hundred percent is accurate. But James Frank who was

569
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: sixteen and thirty six versus top twenty five teams four

570
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: and twenty one versus Top ten. Matt Rules has two

571
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 3: wins his entire college tenure versus Top ten.

572
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: What I was putting in question, by the way, I

573
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: have a source in and around the Pittsburgh area who said,

574
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Speaker 4: and I quote, let me just read the text from

575
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: my source, and I quote, Pitt will have a better

576
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: season than Penn State, and if Duquane had a football team,

577
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: they would too. Do which disrespectful.

578
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna punch you in your mouth like acting like

579
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: this as funny. I will punch you right in your mouth.

580
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Has never team punch you right in your mouth?

581
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: Damn?

582
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: The Ducaine comments too far. Pitt may end up with

583
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: a better record, though, I mean, they're a little freshman

584
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: quarterbacks playing well.

585
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: All right, What what do you want?

586
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: What do you get mad about this?

587
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: Like?

588
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: We can't control any of this?

589
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I think what's happening here and right now I

590
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: can already tell you by the vibe, I know.

591
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna lose Notre Dame, maybe Georgia tex So

592
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: they you know, have four losses.

593
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: LeVar is gonna leave us to take a Penn stage job.

594
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: He's gonna leave this show to go beyond the staff

595
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: with five, go beyond the staff. Yeah, I mean you

596
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: never know.

597
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: Look, I know LeVar wants to be on that staff. No,

598
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: you do not know that what he wants a lot

599
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: of I know he wants to get on top of

600
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: that staff.

601
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Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind it. So

602
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: when does the Kiffin news get announced? What are we

603
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: waiting like twenty four or forty eight hours after the

604
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Speaker 4: season or how's that? How's that gonna work? When he

605
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: goes to Florida. Plus, he looks like a Florida guy

606
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: like he does. He's got the VIA guy.

607
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: He's saw him do his interview like they were interviewing him.

608
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Why he was standing outside in some lawn or something

609
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: like that white v neck on man, he was just

610
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: hanging out by hisself, like nobody was out there with him.

611
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: He was just he was behind some big ass house

612
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: like just talking to Pat McAfee.

613
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: Like all right.

614
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Then he gave him the double the double fist pump

615
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: at the end. Kiffin is a killer man.

616
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Speaker 4: If you look at his beef, if he were to

617
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: get the Florida job, and you just look at his

618
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: resume and you actor and like obviously the USC, he

619
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: was at Tennessee, he was at FAU, the Raiders like

620
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: he like he is, really bounced around and had success

621
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Speaker 4: in most places, but the USC tarmac incident, which by

622
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: the way, I think he's the last coach to win

623
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Speaker 4: in South Bend for USC, and then you had the

624
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: Raiders debacle, and somehow, some way he just keeps keeps

625
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: fighting gigs and uh, but.

626
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Speaker 3: He seems like he's better. I feel like he's better now.

627
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: He's in a better spot. I think, you know, personally

628
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: and all that, and that's.

629
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Speaker 1: That plays a part in it as well. Of course,

630
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't get into people's personal business.

631
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Speaker 3: But and Jonas, you are correct, the last time Southern

632
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: Cal beat Notre Dame was in two thousand. In Notre

633
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: Dame was in twenty eleven, Lyn Kevin was head coach.

634
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Speaker 1: I mean, wow, don't be surprised if it's a different

635
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: name you see pop up in Penn State.

636
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, Well, we know six off the

637
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: table rules.

638
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not going to

639
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: entertain that. I'm just saying that you just might not

640
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: be accurate with what you're saying. That's all I'm saying.

641
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: Well, then you're saying Chris not saying anything about anything?

642
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: What else?

643
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: Was it accurate that I just said I know a name?

644
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: Can you stop?

645
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: Like?

646
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

647
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: You don't know any names?

648
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Who? You don't know any names? I'm just saying, don't

649
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: be surprised if you hear a different name. Brady, how

650
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: do you say ten in Spanish? D? Yes?

651
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: I just.

652
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man. Yeah, you then you'll swing for

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Speaker 3: the fence. They don't make this decision unless they swing

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Speaker 3: for the fence. I'm sure they're calling up all these

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Speaker 3: and they just say, are you gonna match or not? Right? Like,

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Speaker 3: that's what this comes down to. I mean a little uh.

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Speaker 1: I just can't comment on it. I'm sworn to secrecy.

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Speaker 3: Many recuse yourself. Yes, you have to recuse yourself from

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Speaker 3: this contint.

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Speaker 4: Correct little manny D, that's correct. Return it back to

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Speaker 4: and then they get kicked right in the nuts.

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Speaker 4: So it just sucks, man, I felt it hurfect.

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Speaker 1: Just sucks Carolina.

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Speaker 4: So Carolina hasn't been above five hundred this late in

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Speaker 4: the season since twenty nineteen. And now Bryce Young's got

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Speaker 4: in the world, but it just feels like there's some

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Speaker 4: momentum there. They beat Dallas, they beat the awful Jets,

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Speaker 4: even though I picked and bet on the New York

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Speaker 4: Jets in that game for some inexplicable reasoner. Yeah, it's bad.

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Speaker 4: It was bad one in two weeks for Knox locks bad.

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Speaker 4: But if I four, but I was I was really

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Speaker 4: hoping that it sucks Sonny, that this was going to

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Speaker 4: continue on and we were going to get to see

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Speaker 4: them build on that because Dave Canalis and Bryce Hung

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Speaker 4: have got to be the nicest coach quarterback combination in

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Speaker 4: the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They seem like great guys.

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Speaker 3: And they've gotten better. They're building something there.

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Speaker 4: And now he's out, like all right, here we go

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Speaker 4: and I don't know what this how long term this is, but.

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Speaker 1: It's positive though.

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Speaker 3: It is even with you guys think Bill O'Brien would

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Speaker 3: come back to take the head coaching job, but p

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Speaker 3: su ah, let's think about that. Somebody told you to

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Speaker 3: say that. No, I'm just like, we didn't have enough

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Speaker 3: time last segment. Why you Elo? Let's moke Elko is

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Speaker 3: a guy who I'd look at. Let's go to that

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Speaker 3: like it's like it was time to move on.

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Speaker 1: That was so last segment.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of Bill O'Brien. I thought somebody

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Speaker 1: told you to say Bill O'Brien to try to get.

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking, I'm like, wait, bill o Brian's head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can stay right on there, dang, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's his what's their record there?

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Speaker 3: I mean, and then good, all good, all good coaches.

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Speaker 4: You know what's their record at at Boston College? Player

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Speaker 4: I just named like three other coaches. You don't have

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Speaker 4: to focus on Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: What what is Bill O'Brien's record?

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Speaker 3: Not good?

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Speaker 1: Okay, not good? Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I think Rabel's kid is on his staff too. With

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Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's go with Rabel, Let's go get variable.

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Speaker 1: I'll be all right with that. Let's do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to do that.

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Speaker 3: You know who you can have?

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Speaker 4: What tim Timmy Chang? Oh, why he's got six wins

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Speaker 4: this year?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Yeah? Cool about that.

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Speaker 4: mixing match head coaches here. It's a coaching carousel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, why can't we have this conversation with you?

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Speaker 3: You're a Penn Steak guy through and through. Who else

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Speaker 3: better to have it with? Yeah, you're right, exactly one

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Speaker 3: day you're our guy. On the other side of all

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Speaker 3: of this we'll have the conversation