Speaker 1: I was just going to very quickly show you that
Speaker 1: I haven't. I've been trying. I've had to flip a
Speaker 1: coin for my last podcast, and I've been too late
Speaker 1: to actually get a coin, so I've been flipping Rider
Speaker 1: Strong season five. Uh oh, what just say and I'll
Speaker 1: be like Robbie.
Speaker 2: Like hair or tails, flip it in the air. Yeah,
Speaker 2: why are you flipping a coin?
Speaker 1: Because we're doing the word at the end of the contest,
Speaker 1: so we're picking our finalists next week?
Speaker 2: Are you're choosing by coin? Flip? No? Wait, is it
Speaker 2: revealed here? Did we just except it was the first one?
Speaker 1: The first one that comes in gets to go first,
Speaker 1: but then the subsequent rounds we flip a coin, so
Speaker 1: it's just chance who gets to go first and who
Speaker 1: gets to go second?
Speaker 2: Got it? So someone gets assigned, right or strong face?
Speaker 1: Well that's yes, well exactly, I'll say. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: x Y gets hair and z X gets this. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I picked the x Y DVDs and CDs really impractical, Like,
Speaker 2: don't they seem weird? Now? I still buy them. I
Speaker 2: still buy them all the time. It seems so weird
Speaker 2: to me that we like invented these discs that are
Speaker 2: like super fragile, and can you so easily get scratched
Speaker 2: and scratch them? Don't? Yeah, I know, and it's.
Speaker 1: Still better than VHS tapes. You'd watch it like times
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it was like, why
Speaker 1: can I not see the rest of meatballs?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I can't. I mean, it is so depressing
Speaker 2: to me to think about how many great films I
Speaker 2: encountered on VHS, like and that's how I knew them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you know? I actually watched Back to the Future
Speaker 2: scrambled for years, oh, listening just to the audio, because
Speaker 2: you know, if you recorded a VHS, if it was protected,
Speaker 2: it would what you would get was is a scrambled
Speaker 2: version of the movie. So the audio would be perfectly fine,
Speaker 2: but the visuals would be all crazy. And what my
Speaker 2: dad used to do is rent videos from the video store,
Speaker 2: and then if we really liked it, he would make
Speaker 2: a copy. But he wouldn't choo the copy. He would
Speaker 2: just make a copy because had two VCRs, and then
Speaker 2: we'd get stuck with scrambled from before. It was Back
Speaker 2: to the Future so much that I watched it scrambled
Speaker 2: over and over and to this day, I can like
Speaker 2: close my eyes and I can quote any line and
Speaker 2: all the sound design of Back to the Future, but
Speaker 2: the visuals are still kind.
Speaker 3: Of fresh to the Oh my gosh, we get Blu
Speaker 3: rays delivered to the house.
Speaker 2: We took multiple times a week.
Speaker 3: Wow, and I and I go, oh great, I'm so
Speaker 3: glad we have more of these, and he don't worry,
Speaker 3: I'm just replacing them. Jensen has a whole argument for
Speaker 3: it about like how.
Speaker 4: Hi everyone, Hi everyone, there was a bad signal that
Speaker 4: went up. It's a shadeky and a Blu ray outside
Speaker 4: my house, So I assume you need me on the show,
Speaker 4: but yeah, please. The reason is is that when we
Speaker 4: depend on these streaming services, you are going to see
Speaker 4: films from the seventies and eighties absolutely disappear into Spanish.
Speaker 4: When Netflix just recently stopped their DVD service, which if
Speaker 4: you can't believe, they did it three months ago, but
Speaker 4: they finally stopped the DVD mailing service, three to like
Speaker 4: ten percent of the movies that they were shipping out
Speaker 4: from the seventies or on the streaming service, we are
Speaker 4: going to lose movies completely. And don't even get me
Speaker 4: started about what Disney did to French Connection. And anyway,
Speaker 4: if you ever need to have a movie and we're
Speaker 4: all in the apocalypse, I'll be here, all.
Speaker 3: Right, does writer or know what they did to French Connection.
Speaker 4: They removed racial slurs from French Connection. And the reason
Speaker 4: is in the movie it's a racist saying it, it's
Speaker 4: a bad character saying it. They removed it, which also
Speaker 4: will mean now the Criterion channel also has it removed,
Speaker 4: and also anytime it's screened on publicly at all, it
Speaker 4: will also be removed.
Speaker 1: Who made that choice, Disney is I mean, yeah, Disney.
Speaker 1: It also now takes place in Spain and there is
Speaker 1: no connection. Yeah, unbelievable. CRAZI also French anymore, it's just
Speaker 1: the Freedom connection.
Speaker 2: I remember when there was a there was like a
Speaker 2: premium uh uh service. I forget what it was, but
Speaker 2: it was like it had all the Criterion movies before
Speaker 2: Criterion had its own channel. Do you remember this one?
Speaker 2: And then it went it went away and it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: suddenly I couldn't access all these movies. And then luckily
Speaker 2: Criterion came along, which is still my favorite.
Speaker 4: There's movie movies really good. There's to be does really well.
Speaker 4: There's someone that have really you know, like to be
Speaker 4: was the only place you could watch Jaws streaming for
Speaker 4: a long time. Yeah, it's just it's gonna be really strange.
Speaker 4: I still buy books.
Speaker 2: I still have like walls and walls books and boxes
Speaker 2: of books, and that's ridiculous. At this it's it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: I think it's wonderful too, but I have to move them,
Speaker 2: like we're redoing the floors in my house and like
Speaker 2: we are, like it's a huge pain to have to
Speaker 2: re all these books and like I never have enough bookshelves.
Speaker 2: I have piles in them, and it's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I don't buy DVDs, because I
Speaker 2: just don't want to have to do. But I totally
Speaker 2: agree in theory like we should. I want physical ca
Speaker 2: copies of We'll see what we'll see.
Speaker 4: If Danielle is complaining when you know, in twenty years
Speaker 4: there's a line outside of our house to watch SERPENTO.
Speaker 3: We're going to be coming direct now, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 3: definitely won't be complaining. Then I'll think that's wonderful. I
Speaker 3: can't wait for that to happen.
Speaker 2: We'll take it to the media forever, guys. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, yeah yeah. Now they're changing everything.
Speaker 1: In the last version of Jaws, I saw, the shark
Speaker 1: was just misunderstood. So it's the whole thing is just
Speaker 1: weird what they're doing nowadays, it really.
Speaker 2: Is misunderstood shark looking for blood and all their own
Speaker 2: places actly. Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel,
Speaker 2: I'm Righter Strong, and I'm Wilfordell.
Speaker 3: So we are taking a small Boy Meets World recap
Speaker 3: break for the next two weeks as we get ready
Speaker 3: for season three, and we've decided to focus on two
Speaker 3: movies we've mentioned this season, and we are starting with
Speaker 3: watching a movie from Ryder's resume. We all have work
Speaker 3: and movies and Koushlin commercials we never want to see again.
Speaker 3: And luckily, Ryder has decided to volunteer himself Hunger Game style.
Speaker 2: This name volunteers tribute.
Speaker 3: YEP Summertime Switch, which we would love for you to watch.
Speaker 3: You can see it for free on YouTube just search
Speaker 3: for Summertime Switch full movie. It was a TV movie
Speaker 3: for ABC released October eighth, nineteen ninety four. Recently, the
Speaker 3: trailer went a little viral online people seem to be
Speaker 3: very nostalgic for it.
Speaker 2: Do you remember how you ended up in this movie?
Speaker 2: I got offered this part. This was so this was
Speaker 2: between seasons one and two and Will this happened to
Speaker 2: you too? You got offered Yeah, Disney moviees. So they
Speaker 2: were it was ABC. It was an ABC movie of
Speaker 2: the week. And what they would like to do, I guess,
Speaker 2: was take actors who were on TV shows on ABC
Speaker 2: shows and you know, build a movie around them or
Speaker 2: have them apart and exist in the movie. And so
Speaker 2: this this, I was just an offer and it was like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, three I think was three weeks in Jacksonville, Florida.
Speaker 2: So I went off and did it, and then they
Speaker 2: offered me another movie the next year, and I turned
Speaker 2: them down and never never heard from them again. Right,
Speaker 2: Simmtimes Switched too? Yes, No, I forget what the other
Speaker 2: one was, but I just you know, I didn't really
Speaker 2: have a great time on Summertime Switch, which we'll talk about.
Speaker 2: I've already mentioned a little bit on this, and I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. I mean, I probably would have done another
Speaker 2: movie if if it's schedule had worked out, So I'm
Speaker 2: not exactly sure why I turned it down, but I
Speaker 2: never heard from ABC Movie of the Weeks again, so
Speaker 2: well it makes me feel about I don't think I
Speaker 2: ever heard from them. I'm pretty sure yet what you
Speaker 2: weren't even a regular on Boy No.
Speaker 3: But also even all the years that I was on
Speaker 3: Boy Meets World, they used to boy boys were the
Speaker 3: stars of movies back then.
Speaker 2: It was it was very male heavy. It wasn't until
Speaker 2: that I heard studio execs say, which is that boys
Speaker 2: can identify with young boys, and girls can identify with
Speaker 2: young boys. But boys can identify with young girls. So
Speaker 2: therefore to get a bigger audience, you always which is
Speaker 2: just absurd.
Speaker 3: Well, it was also like girls will watch because they
Speaker 3: have a crush on the guy, and the guy will
Speaker 3: watch because it's an aspirational guy, like it's a guy
Speaker 3: he wants to be like, so yeah, I know it.
Speaker 2: Was sort of cool because think about My Girl or
Speaker 2: Man in the Moon, like these are great movie. My
Speaker 2: Girl is a huge hit. So it totally was like,
Speaker 2: you know, this this rule wasn't true most of the time,
Speaker 2: but it was still a rule.
Speaker 1: Then, well, they're also trying to the networks are trying
Speaker 1: to do something that they were holding on too from
Speaker 1: the eighties, which were my favorite things in the world,
Speaker 1: where they would take all of their talent and put
Speaker 1: them in one after school specialer movie. So, you know,
Speaker 1: like a high School USA was Michael J. Fox and
Speaker 1: Todd Bridges and it was all these TV actors that
Speaker 1: came together to do a high school movie. There was
Speaker 1: another one, Poison Ivy Michael J. Fox and Nancy McKee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this was like a thing. This is what that
Speaker 1: they used to do, and this was the death throes
Speaker 1: of it where it was like, we're still going to
Speaker 1: try to take our talent and put him in I
Speaker 1: still think it's a great idea. I still think, you know,
Speaker 1: these streaming services should take all their biggest talent and
Speaker 1: do one movie with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a fun idea.
Speaker 1: It'd be is so great, but they just they don't
Speaker 1: do that any especially if it's in the service of comedy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you could take like
Speaker 1: a bunch of good comic actors on the Netflix slate
Speaker 1: for instance, and do like a movie.
Speaker 3: Well, basically, it's the idea we've been talking about about
Speaker 3: rebooting a cast. It's it was basically, but instead of
Speaker 3: it in that case, it's not a reboot, it's just
Speaker 3: putting it in something else at the same time.
Speaker 2: From different TV shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was great and it was They were
Speaker 1: some of my favorite movies growing up as a kid,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you I think they were trying
Speaker 1: to do that with these.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, the brief synopsis is that a spoiled rich boy
Speaker 3: and a slick talking stream kid who happened to have
Speaker 3: the same name find their lives reversed for the Summer,
Speaker 3: which is also early similar to the movie Jensen and
Speaker 3: I made for two Boy.
Speaker 2: When I was watching this, I was like, this.
Speaker 3: Is very this is very without having even seen Summertimes,
Speaker 3: which it was inspirational. So it was directed by Alan
Speaker 3: Metter Is that how you say his name? Alan Mehtter,
Speaker 3: who had directed nineteen eighty five's Girls Just Want to
Speaker 3: Have Fun with Sarah Jessica Parker. Yeah, and the great
Speaker 3: Rodney Dangerfield comedy Back to School.
Speaker 2: Oh, great movie.
Speaker 3: He would also later helm the Olsen twin movies Billboard
Speaker 3: Dad and Passport to Paris.
Speaker 2: He did Billboard Dad. Yes, I'm surprised, Okay. It was
Speaker 2: written by Patrick J.
Speaker 3: Clifton, who had previously had the story credit on Polly
Speaker 3: Shore's Son in Law, and it stars Jason Weaver, who
Speaker 3: had played Michael Jackson in the very popular Jackson Family
Speaker 3: mini series To Get This, and was also the singing
Speaker 3: voice of Simba in Lion King Awesome. Some of his
Speaker 3: other impressive credits, he was a lead on Smart Guy,
Speaker 3: He was in the movie drum line The Cohen Brothers
Speaker 3: Lady Killers, and he was a voice on the short
Speaker 3: lived cartoon The Lebrons. Writer, what do you remember about Jason?
Speaker 2: So talented, such a good guy. You know, he didn't
Speaker 2: actually work together that much so because we were on
Speaker 2: opposite storylines, But Jason was such a good cool guy.
Speaker 2: He he was I don't think he was that much
Speaker 2: older than me, but he was older than me, you know,
Speaker 2: Like he was so much more mature. He was so
Speaker 2: much cooler than me. And he just he just knew
Speaker 2: what he was doing. Like I was such a clueless,
Speaker 2: like fresh faced actor, like I don't know any but
Speaker 2: he just he he was such more like he was
Speaker 2: just more mature. He had lived life more so he
Speaker 2: came across like an adult to me. And then to
Speaker 2: watch it now and see like how good he is
Speaker 2: in the movie I'm like, wow, you know, because I
Speaker 2: have never seen the movie. I didn't obviously, i'd never
Speaker 2: seen any of his scenes. And he has like all
Speaker 2: this really good emotional stuff and he's amazing. And then
Speaker 2: of course he can sing and I can dance. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I remember talking to him about Michael Jackson because
Speaker 2: he had met him doing you know, because he had
Speaker 2: played young Michael Jackson. And he told me about Michael
Speaker 2: Jackson's different disguises. He different like and I forget what
Speaker 2: he had, Like one disguise that that that he would
Speaker 2: he would show up on set like I think, what
Speaker 2: was it? An old lady? No, it was like a
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern like Saudi Arabian prince outfit or whatever, so
Speaker 2: he could wear a full like face covering and like
Speaker 2: so basically everyone would think it's like so some rich
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern you know prince is here, and it's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's actually Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: I do that when I go to Target four times
Speaker 3: in the day and I don't want them to know
Speaker 3: that I'm back.
Speaker 1: I can I can vouch for that. I think I've
Speaker 1: seen her there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, was awesome, But yeah, I didn't I didn
Speaker 2: actually work with him that much that I didn't get
Speaker 2: to work with any of those guys I did hang
Speaker 2: out with. I played magic with David and Patrick, but no,
Speaker 2: mostly hung out with the guys in the prison camp.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, other stars beyond our Pale Rider a strong here,
Speaker 3: Richard Mole known as Bull on night Court. He there's
Speaker 3: a gosh, I'm just realizing Salay Moon Fry was in
Speaker 3: this movie. I did not recognize her. I didn't have
Speaker 3: first either, and then I was like, that's so lay.
Speaker 3: She's like a small part. But I do remember her
Speaker 3: very well too, because this was I think the only
Speaker 3: time I met her, and of course I had grown
Speaker 3: up like in love.
Speaker 2: With Punky Brewster. I just thought she was like the
Speaker 2: coolest kid ever, and so I definitely remember meeting her
Speaker 2: and just she was the nicest person. I remember hanging
Speaker 2: out with her. She was uh. And then like, I
Speaker 2: didn't remember this, but my mom when I talked when
Speaker 2: I when you know, she put out that documentary like
Speaker 2: a couple years ago. It was like all this footage
Speaker 2: that she had taken and I had watched it and
Speaker 2: I brought it up to my mom and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: don't you remember she always had a camera, like even
Speaker 2: back on this set, okay, because she knew. My mom
Speaker 2: was like she always had like the latest coolest VHS
Speaker 2: camera and was always filming and documenting everything. I was like,
Speaker 2: I didn't remember that, but my mom remembered it. It was like,
Speaker 2: that's so funny, and so that's all that footage has
Speaker 2: become her documentary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, Salain Moon Fry a gay punky brewster.
Speaker 3: Barry Williams aka Greg Brady is a Grady was your dad?
Speaker 3: That's awesome?
Speaker 2: Wow, didn't know that? Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And our pal Patrick Richard Mall.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was like, oh this guy, but
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever met him by Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and our pal Patrick Renna from the Sandlot and
Speaker 3: TikTok Stardom. But most interestingly, Isaac Lidski plays bad boy
Speaker 3: Numbers Numbers. He was also Weasel and Saved by the
Speaker 3: Bell the New Class. But those roles are literally the
Speaker 3: least cool thing about him, right, or tell me if
Speaker 3: you know any of this, you should all I know?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: A year before Summertime Switch, he was diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa,
Speaker 3: a retinal degenerative disease that leads to progressive site loss
Speaker 3: and blindness. He would then go on to graduate from
Speaker 3: Harvard with a law degree, accomplished while losing his eyesight
Speaker 3: completely when he was like nineteen.
Speaker 2: He started at Columbia because I remember he moved. He
Speaker 2: moved to New York right after for this movie. Started
Speaker 2: at Columbia he was only like fifteen or sixteen, and
Speaker 2: then transferred to Harvard and graduated at nineteen, like with honors,
Speaker 2: unbelievable in mathematics or computer science and stuff.
Speaker 3: He then founded an internet startup company called ru four
Speaker 3: dot com and sold it for two hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: million dollars. Then became Supreme Court Justice Sandrady O'Connor's law clerk,
Speaker 3: the first blind person to ever hold the position, and
Speaker 3: now runs a concrete company in Orlando that makes seventy
Speaker 3: million dollars in revenue.
Speaker 2: Wow. In a Ted Talks, there's a Ted Talks of him.
Speaker 2: I watched, I watched this morning. I lost touch with Isaac.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him so the last time I saw
Speaker 2: him was right when he was doing the internet company
Speaker 2: in New York. Because I went to Columbia, so I
Speaker 2: was living in New York and he was back from
Speaker 2: Harvard doing this this business and he came over and
Speaker 2: we hung out and that was so that was two
Speaker 2: thousand and one. Two thousand and two was probably the
Speaker 2: last time I saw him. Such a good guy. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was like my friend on the set. We just
Speaker 2: like fully blind. Yeah, I guess so now, although like
Speaker 2: when watching his ted Talks, he presents as if he's
Speaker 2: seen like very like he he manages incredibly And that's
Speaker 2: what his Ted Talks is all about, is how you
Speaker 2: create your own reality. And he wrote a book about it,
Speaker 2: so like basically talks about how we think of seeing
Speaker 2: as a passive experience, but it's really something our brain
Speaker 2: is actively doing constantly and you can overcome like a
Speaker 2: lack of scene. It's it's amazing. He's he's yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: He was like just such a genius. His parents were.
Speaker 2: His mom was the nicest. His mom was from Brazil
Speaker 2: and his dad was a big time lawyer at the time.
Speaker 2: He was prosecuting the case against tobacco companies. Remember in
Speaker 2: the nineties, all those lawsuits. His dad was like one
Speaker 2: of the main lawyers prosecuting that. Just the coolest people ever,
Speaker 2: like and Isaac, like we just immediately bonded and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was coming off staved by the Bell. He was
Speaker 2: already I think he was already going to New York
Speaker 2: for school. He was just like, yeah, well, I mean
Speaker 2: it's an actual certified genius.
Speaker 1: It sounds like I mean, people use that word a lot,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like he's actually a genius. Ye. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, writer, we're going to have you chime in
Speaker 3: with memories you have throughout the recap. Obviously, but overall
Speaker 3: you said this was not you didn't have a great
Speaker 3: experience filming this movie. Could you give us like a
Speaker 3: brief little reason why run down?
Speaker 2: Well, watching it again, I got a lot more positive
Speaker 2: memories and like like just remembering Isaac and hanging out
Speaker 2: with Patrick and all those guys, like there was there was,
Speaker 2: It was a good experience. I think it goes back
Speaker 2: to me just being love sick teenager. I was, you know,
Speaker 2: I had done the season of Boy Meets World. I
Speaker 2: was I was being taken away from home. I just
Speaker 2: remember missing my girlfriend, the one with the white rose
Speaker 2: that I would give her, and so I like, like
Speaker 2: what I remember like distinctly is like coming home after
Speaker 2: this and just being so happy, like going to Marine's
Speaker 2: house and being like, I'm back, my life can start again.
Speaker 2: Like right at fourteen, I was so madly in love
Speaker 2: and this was you know, so I was just like
Speaker 2: I was just tortured in some weird way. And then,
Speaker 2: like I think I mentioned, I didn't feel like I
Speaker 2: was good and I had a like combative relationship with
Speaker 2: the director. He kept wanting me to be really funny
Speaker 2: and over the top, which is totally understandable, and watching
Speaker 2: the movie you can just see me pushing and like
Speaker 2: I'm so uncomfortable. Second half of the movie, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's writer. Yeah, like once I dropped the whole like
Speaker 2: rich kid character stuff they're allowed to act and didn't
Speaker 2: know how to be a character. Like all I could
Speaker 2: do was like be myself as as a young actor
Speaker 2: at that point, and so like when I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of there and being the coach or whatever it is
Speaker 2: in the second half of the movie, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: well that's you're okay, right, Yeah, that whole first half
Speaker 2: is so painful to watch, and it was really painful
Speaker 2: to go through, and it was hot. It was Jacksonville
Speaker 2: Florida and like July, and I just remember always being
Speaker 2: like sweaty and buggy and hot.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, well, I thought we could start with
Speaker 3: a featured review on IMDb. Yes, yes, it says I
Speaker 3: saw this movie the day before school let out a
Speaker 3: couple of years back.
Speaker 2: I didn't even see the ending. The guy who played
Speaker 2: the delinquent wasn't very believable, but the rich kid was worse.
Speaker 3: Call this movie a guilty pleasure or late for dinner
Speaker 3: anything except good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could go with that. I mean, I actually
Speaker 2: thought the script was better than I remember, and I
Speaker 2: was like, this, did you how did you remember it?
Speaker 2: Because I still don't know who I'm rooting for. I
Speaker 2: still don't care.
Speaker 3: My biggest issue is that it feels like there is
Speaker 3: an ending, or at least the start of an ending,
Speaker 3: at fifty minutes in or something, and then no one
Speaker 3: acknowledges that.
Speaker 2: No, you mean when we confront each other at the dance.
Speaker 3: Yes, and there's a shot where we go to the audience,
Speaker 3: like a reaction shot of the audience, and then and
Speaker 3: the audience takes it in, and then everyone just never
Speaker 3: mentions that again.
Speaker 1: And then you're kind of friends with the guy who
Speaker 1: just tried to turn you in.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, it took its weird. Okay, let's
Speaker 3: jump into it. Let's jump into our recount. So we
Speaker 3: open with the title card and lead actor Jason Weaver
Speaker 3: singing the movie's theme song, though that's not really mentioned
Speaker 3: or anything. It's very nineties soul for real and Tevin
Speaker 3: Campbell sounding. He also dresses like Tevin Campbell for the
Speaker 3: rest of the movie. It's pretty great. Oh, he's amazing.
Speaker 3: But beyond his music, we see Weaver playing fast. Freddy
Speaker 3: Egan now knock on an old lady's door and he's
Speaker 3: dressed as a jamboree scout. He tells this frail grandma
Speaker 3: that he's collecting money for the Homeless Society, and she's
Speaker 3: quick to want to donate. Freddie looks a little nervous
Speaker 3: when she notices that his uniform is very tight, and
Speaker 3: there was another opportunity I thought for a shot where
Speaker 3: we could see that the uniform looks very tight, because
Speaker 3: the only time we saw him was from very far away.
Speaker 3: Is he was skipping along singing the song, so we
Speaker 3: don't really see that his uniform looks tight, but she
Speaker 3: mentions it and he plays it off very nicely, and
Speaker 3: she gives him her dead husband's lucky gold coin for charity.
Speaker 2: Feels like what, I.
Speaker 3: Know what, maybe like some cold hard cash would have
Speaker 3: been a cash.
Speaker 1: But she donates an old gold coin, which was the
Speaker 1: most thing her husband good silver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of things before that.
Speaker 1: And so I my sence, I knew nothing of this movie.
Speaker 1: I knew nothing of this movie going in. I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: they're doing Magic Ticket from you know, the the Arnold
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger movie. Like this coin is going to stretch them somehow, right,
Speaker 1: this is gonna okay, this is gonna watch look at
Speaker 1: look at this for because this is a minute nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh, she's oh no, she's just
Speaker 1: an old lady giving away a coin. This means nothing
Speaker 1: in the long run in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: We'll go straight at the ending of the movie breaks
Speaker 2: where you get like, what, it's so weird.
Speaker 3: So just as she gives him the coin, she says,
Speaker 3: there's a little bit there may be a little bit
Speaker 3: of luck in it. And then a van pulls up
Speaker 3: with the other boy scouts. One is down to his
Speaker 3: boxer shorts. He points out fast Freddy as the kid
Speaker 3: who took his clothes, and it becomes a chase. Freddy
Speaker 3: sprints off through a neighbor's yard all of Ferris Bueller,
Speaker 3: even snatching a hot dog from a man's lips, causing
Speaker 3: him to basically fall backwards in a pool, even though
Speaker 3: he's not pushed it.
Speaker 2: All by Freddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, image, and he just falls back into the pool
Speaker 3: and there we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was a kid and my brother and I would
Speaker 2: make movies. We always had to have somebody fall into
Speaker 2: the pool. That was like that was like production value,
Speaker 2: you know that, of course, especially if we were like
Speaker 2: in makeup and but it was always the most fun
Speaker 2: part was being able to go into the pool with
Speaker 2: our clothes on. Right, right, we're getting away with something.
Speaker 2: But yeah, always always a big fight lands in the pool.
Speaker 2: Somebody has to fall on the pool. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Eventually the boy scouts catch up and call the cops.
Speaker 3: We then find ourselves in a judge's quarters. Fast Freddy
Speaker 3: is accompanied by a police officer and the furious judge
Speaker 3: appoints him to the supervisory care of juvenile detention camp,
Speaker 3: where he will work and he will have no fun
Speaker 3: at all. And right before the scene ends, Freddy gives
Speaker 3: a hilarious line read trying to give the judge breath mintce.
Speaker 3: He pulls out mints and says, uh, sir, hook it up.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because you're stepping on U
Speaker 3: and his way. It's so good, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: He feels like improv. I feel like this is jasoning
Speaker 2: and it's like one of the most natural lines in
Speaker 2: the whole movie. And yeah, the best laugh.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I do think they les, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I think they let him improv a few times,
Speaker 3: because another time he improvs, he lets us know he
Speaker 3: has skills about seventeen times.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I thought that was not in the script, right.
Speaker 1: He hit every nineties rope with the kind of I
Speaker 1: got skills and you go, And it was just like
Speaker 1: one snap, wasn't it was sash Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then here's our boy Ryder Strong.
Speaker 3: We are placed smack dab in a high school gym
Speaker 3: for a team's scrimmage and another Freddie Egan. This one
Speaker 3: Frederick Egan, the third played by Boy meets World's Rider Strong,
Speaker 3: is on the free throw line playing sports ball.
Speaker 2: Writer Were you nervous to play sports ball? In this movie.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was. I think I was so blueless.
Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, I could do this. Hey,
Speaker 2: just completely. I mean I one of my favorite movies
Speaker 2: growing up was teen Wolf Great, so I can totally
Speaker 2: see myself being like, well, I could do that. Even
Speaker 2: though I never played basketball in my life, I was
Speaker 2: so we played.
Speaker 1: First year we played that, we would play with the
Speaker 1: home I plue my kids. We played football and basketball,
Speaker 1: and then I remember seeing You're sitting there on the
Speaker 1: foul line and you make the first shot, which is
Speaker 1: just a straight through and I was like, that's Rider
Speaker 1: actually trying to make the free throw.
Speaker 2: Myself, like Riders trying to make that shot. It's such
Speaker 2: a clear example of like when you're a kid, like before,
Speaker 2: before you're a teenager, you just think you're good at everything,
Speaker 2: like whatever your parents signed you up for. So like
Speaker 2: I did karate, I took piano, and like acting was
Speaker 2: the same way, because like, oh I act, I also
Speaker 2: could play basketball. I played soccer, and then, like you know,
Speaker 2: you realize by the time you're like thirteen, you usually
Speaker 2: realize like I'm not I'm not really.
Speaker 5: Good stuff, and you had that realization yet, So I
Speaker 5: think I just went in fully like dide and then
Speaker 5: during the course of this movie realized I couldnt play basketball.
Speaker 2: I still don't know what is a double dribble. So
Speaker 2: there's there's two types of double dribble. Okay.
Speaker 1: There's double double dribbling is you dribble, stop and then
Speaker 1: dribble again, okay, And there's the double dribble where you
Speaker 1: dribble the ball with both hands.
Speaker 2: That's also my problem either. I remember Jason calling me
Speaker 2: out while we're while we're shooting the scenes in the
Speaker 2: basketball scenes, and he would just be like, double dribble double.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what you're saying. I
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm just here. Can
Speaker 2: we please make this movie? Oh my god, so embarrassing
Speaker 2: calling me out while player I tell you, this movie
Speaker 2: was a crash course and and me learning about sports, basketball, sportsball.
Speaker 3: This privileged Frederick is obviously bullied by the rest of
Speaker 3: the kids on the team, and he misses both free throws.
Speaker 2: Miserably losing the scrimmage.
Speaker 3: One teammate uh says next year they might let girls
Speaker 3: in the school and then they can trade Fairy for
Speaker 3: another player.
Speaker 2: So fair girls.
Speaker 3: Girls are bad. I guess by the way I did
Speaker 3: not understand. Fairy took me six times. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: that kid was miked. I thought he said ready.
Speaker 1: I thought, say Freddy too, is it very like a
Speaker 1: like a Are you sure it's very very No.
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I couldn't arn, wasn't was pretty sure. No, absolutely not sure.
Speaker 3: I will not die on this hill. He said, Freddy,
Speaker 3: I don't care. It's not fully Freddy. It's it's not
Speaker 3: fully Fairy. I think the writer was miked and he
Speaker 3: was just hoping his mic was picking it up.
Speaker 2: And that's it possible. You say, you say, you say
Speaker 2: my character is bullied, but I come across more like
Speaker 2: the bully.
Speaker 3: You're the biggest bully. But you you start on the
Speaker 3: line you're saying, listen, I was not treated wise. So
Speaker 3: you're trying to make you're trying to imply that they
Speaker 3: were trying to set up that you're you don't fit
Speaker 3: in anywhere.
Speaker 2: And I think had I been a better actor, there's
Speaker 2: a version of this character that you would have had
Speaker 2: more sympathy for, you know, like you would have been like, oh,
Speaker 2: this kid is you know, teased and made fun of
Speaker 2: or you know, done that with a taking. You are
Speaker 2: so rude to your chauffeur.
Speaker 3: That's the hard that's the part to me that like
Speaker 3: once once you were that cruel to him. I was like,
Speaker 3: I hope this character falls in a bit of mud
Speaker 3: and gets little on fire.
Speaker 2: Okay, want to come out. But I was thinking about
Speaker 2: this because because there is a way to play rich
Speaker 2: snob that is fun and funny. Think about like the
Speaker 2: way Bill Murray is able to like always say the
Speaker 2: meanest thing and you're still kind of on his side
Speaker 2: because he's clever, or he's like he's not pushing.
Speaker 3: The best example is how much could a banana cost
Speaker 3: ten dollars?
Speaker 2: That's clueless, rich person, out of touch risk. Rich person
Speaker 2: can be very funny. Yes, your can be funny. I'm
Speaker 2: just disgusted me being rude. That was wider. If I
Speaker 2: had if my if I could have had the slightest
Speaker 2: sense of irony, just so the slight little tings that
Speaker 2: like I think I'm better than these people. This is
Speaker 2: not you.
Speaker 3: He's in cat food out of an airport or whatever
Speaker 3: you say.
Speaker 2: Is that a career choice? It is written for you
Speaker 2: to be the word despicable child. Now there's no, there's
Speaker 2: no You are a child.
Speaker 3: So could it be played that you are despicable because
Speaker 3: of the very poor treatment you have been given my family?
Speaker 3: And that's where the sympathy comes from. The sympathy comes
Speaker 3: from this child doesn't know better because he's he's been
Speaker 3: abandoned and has The.
Speaker 2: Only real moment in the entire first fifty minutes of
Speaker 2: my right acting in this movie is when I say,
Speaker 2: you know, when I turn off the tape and I
Speaker 2: say thanks Toad or whatever. I was like, that's a
Speaker 2: real emotion. That's a real moment, that's a real thing.
Speaker 1: It should have been what you what you do with
Speaker 1: something like this, which is done in these movies, is
Speaker 1: what you do is you're actually very nice to the
Speaker 1: chauffeur and he's actually very nice to you because it's
Speaker 1: the only adult in your entire life you've actually grown
Speaker 1: up with. And that's how you do It's like, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing is how you do it. Like he's
Speaker 1: apologizing your dad's not here. My god, I've got to
Speaker 1: tell you again that your dad's not here. Like that's
Speaker 1: how you do it, as opposed to just being an
Speaker 1: ass the whole time. Yeah, but Freddy, the other Freddy, though.
Speaker 1: I also the way they started him. They start him
Speaker 1: with robbing from the old Lady robbing. I have no
Speaker 1: sympathy for any of these characters at this point. None
Speaker 1: I care about neither of these kids. I hope they
Speaker 1: are journey. You want to see some sort of like
Speaker 1: I get even right off the bat kind of like.
Speaker 1: And they try. That's the thing is they realized that too.
Speaker 1: That's why they tried to do it. It just didn't work.
Speaker 1: So it was like they they they got like, we
Speaker 1: need to you know, some sort of a save the cat.
Speaker 1: They ran the cat over and then just spit on
Speaker 1: the carcass and they're like, here's our kids.
Speaker 3: Well, as we mentioned, it's here Frederick learns that his
Speaker 3: father played by Barry Williams, recorded a VHS message for
Speaker 3: him and is not there to pick him up. His
Speaker 3: dad explains he's too busy with work. He's building a
Speaker 3: new stadium, and Frederick will be spending a month at
Speaker 3: the Enclave Posh summer camp that he attended as a
Speaker 3: child and has how's the children of Presidents and royalty.
Speaker 3: He promises an experience of a lifetime, but it's clear
Speaker 3: Frederick has been ignored by his father a lot and
Speaker 3: gets a little teary eyed here and he throws the
Speaker 3: VHS tape out the window.
Speaker 2: Can we talk very quickly about Barry Williams?
Speaker 1: Awesome, I'm busy paper acting, m because he just goes,
Speaker 1: is this thing?
Speaker 2: Is this thing off? Okay, turn it off? I've got
Speaker 2: a paper here, pacting. It's packeding.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: I was weird by the fact that we weren't driving. No, like,
Speaker 2: we're just sitting parking, Like the Shu gets.
Speaker 3: In the car and you couldn't you couldn't afford to
Speaker 3: move process trailer or whatever. So writer, did did Mincus?
Speaker 3: Did Lee or Mincus play into your performance of this
Speaker 3: character at all?
Speaker 2: No? I never even thought about it. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was I was thinking there was a moment when
Speaker 3: you have that when we first see you with the
Speaker 3: sweater tied around your shoulders, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, Oh, that's such a that's such a Mincus look.
Speaker 3: And Jensen was then the one who goes, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: it was between season one and two, so he had
Speaker 3: just come off of working with Lee.
Speaker 2: I wonder if there was any.
Speaker 3: Sort of awareness awareness or minus vibe that you picked
Speaker 3: up on it.
Speaker 2: All, not not that I remember, I mean if any
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing, like, it would have been
Speaker 2: nice if if Freddy were fred Egan, Frederick were smart,
Speaker 2: like you know, or Liker, and they try and do
Speaker 2: the smart Yeah, yeah, you're supposed to be smart. It's
Speaker 2: so bad like yeah, and in fact, like I used
Speaker 2: Neanderthal twice, it's like yeah, it's like they only had
Speaker 2: so much room in their thesaurus where they were right whoever.
Speaker 1: And not to bring it back to mash, but they
Speaker 1: tried to make you Charles Winchester essentially is what they
Speaker 1: were trying to do. This big kind of like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's exactly what they were trying.
Speaker 2: It would have been so much better if if I
Speaker 2: had one redeemed something something something would have been nice.
Speaker 2: So far, I haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 3: So then the limo backs into a different parking lot,
Speaker 3: which I thought was a real interesting choice to have
Speaker 3: the most seen moving in reverse. Yeah, and it is
Speaker 3: a very busy parking lot intersection where many buses are
Speaker 3: parked to take kids to their respective summer camps.
Speaker 2: We see the paddy wagon bus.
Speaker 3: For the juvenile center, and it is a very strict
Speaker 3: mustached sergeant Waldron. He is waiting for and ready to
Speaker 3: punish this wise guy Freddy Egan, who is late. We
Speaker 3: see Writer all prepped out now he's got a sweater
Speaker 3: around his neck, pastel polo and shorts loafers with his
Speaker 3: luggage and golf bag. He finally ditches his driver and
Speaker 3: there's a funny physical moment of Writer trying to lift
Speaker 3: his bag. And I thought it was really good. Did
Speaker 3: they actually make the bag super heavy for you?
Speaker 2: I don't remember. It looked like they did. It looked
Speaker 2: like the bottom was. I just love that they've like
Speaker 2: overly saddled me with rich kid. Yeah, it's like not
Speaker 2: only the sweater vest but also the racket in Yep, yes,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I just also love that prison bus is next to
Speaker 1: rich guy bus, like they're both parked right next to
Speaker 1: each other and they go to the same like.
Speaker 3: Well, it plays into the side plotholes later on when
Speaker 3: knowing like what it is actually mentioned.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get into it.
Speaker 3: We're about to enter plot hole central, which is really
Speaker 3: really fun for me. We now see fast Freddy also
Speaker 3: in the parking lot, being led around by an officer.
Speaker 3: They are told by dispatcher information again, another big sign
Speaker 3: on the table side.
Speaker 1: The sign budget of this film was crazy.
Speaker 2: As big sign behindhand too.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah okay, So after looking his name up, Freddie
Speaker 3: Egan will be going on Bus seven, which has not
Speaker 3: yet arrived. The officer explains he's in a rush, and
Speaker 3: he pays off the Dufus worker to watch his little prisoner,
Speaker 3: and he handcuffs fast Freddy to a nearby van.
Speaker 2: Freddie, hand can you say that again? Slower? He handcuffs
Speaker 2: a kid to a V.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm not sure this pickpocket needs to be handcuffed.
Speaker 2: Hand cuff a van? Yeah, I love the guy's like,
Speaker 2: is he dangerous?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a valid question to ask. Left with some kid.
Speaker 1: Here's twenty dollars, take care of this prisoner. I'm a
Speaker 1: handcuffing to a van.
Speaker 2: I've gotta go.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: So Freddy quick quickly picklocks his handcuffs, and we hear
Speaker 3: an announcement asking for Freddie Egan to report to bus
Speaker 3: one immediately, And so we see Frederick Egan, the third
Speaker 3: pompous little rider, walk.
Speaker 2: Right up to the sergeant and the prisoner. Bus number one.
Speaker 3: He checks in as Frederick Egan, the third, and even
Speaker 3: though the cop is confused, his name is on the list,
Speaker 3: so it must be him. Frederick is grossed out by
Speaker 3: the transportation and thinks it's a mistake, but he's dragged
Speaker 3: on by the cop and that's that.
Speaker 2: That's it, no further questions.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: We're not checking anything.
Speaker 3: We're not checking anything else. This is totally fine. He
Speaker 3: flips his lucky coin. I mean, the cops, I guess,
Speaker 3: just did not take this from him, which no sense
Speaker 3: at all. They would definitely have confiscated that. He's also
Speaker 3: the world's greatest lock pick. I know, police cuffs.
Speaker 2: It's like him and Houdini. Right, I'm gonna get out
Speaker 2: of a street jacket. I think he reached a paper
Speaker 2: clip he couldn't reach he first he didn't reach it
Speaker 2: at all, and then he had it, had it, and
Speaker 2: it made no sense, and it was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Well, when he gets to bus seven, he hilariously starts
Speaker 3: to dance his way on, but he is.
Speaker 2: Stopped by a snotty little bus leader, Peggy. That's so
Speaker 2: that took a while to like. Three seats has a
Speaker 2: single card and the credit it's a bigger part than
Speaker 2: I you know, what.
Speaker 3: I guess it's just because she had different hair color
Speaker 3: that we just don't recognize her.
Speaker 1: It must be yeah, because she was on screen for
Speaker 1: a good five minutes before I was like, wait.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's so late.
Speaker 3: I never realized. Oh really, okay, I forgot I remember
Speaker 3: when the movie started. I was like, oh, Sleigh moon
Speaker 3: Fries in this, and then watched the whole movie and
Speaker 3: never then wondered where Sleigh was, but never saw.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I'm only realizing now that that's who that was.
Speaker 3: He says, I knew this was too good to be
Speaker 3: true and assumes the position. She's confused. He says he's
Speaker 3: Fred Egan and he was told to come to bus seven.
Speaker 3: She doesn't believe that. Yeah right, And I'm Wilma Flynstone,
Speaker 3: she says. Peggy, flanked by butlers in tuxes behind her,
Speaker 3: looks at her list and says, wow, there is his name,
Speaker 3: Frederick Egan, and it has seven dollars signs next to it,
Speaker 3: the symbols you see when you pick a restaurant and
Speaker 3: you go, well, how much is this restaurant gonna set
Speaker 3: me back? And they have somewhere between one and five
Speaker 3: dollars signs Frederick Eagan is seven of.
Speaker 2: Them seven, seven, and then in like two scenes we
Speaker 2: find out his dad's worth how much billion dollars? Seven?
Speaker 2: So the dollar signs represent a billion.
Speaker 1: Each one, Yeah, and this is the ninetiest han billion
Speaker 1: dollars is a that's.
Speaker 2: A find out. You ten in the world, which is
Speaker 2: I guess would have been true? It's seven if you were.
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know a lot of the Middle
Speaker 1: East shakes by that point. I think we're like thirty
Speaker 1: forty fifty billion with all the oil money. Wasn't there?
Speaker 2: I think again, I don't know Gates right, yeah, would
Speaker 2: have already made money. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, well, she changes her tune and says she didn't
Speaker 3: expect him to be so. She loves his outfit and
Speaker 3: his gangster chic is the newest rave. He uncomfortably takes
Speaker 3: the bus and when he realizes he's going to the enclave,
Speaker 3: he jumps right into character. He tells his new crush
Speaker 3: that he's met her before, maybe in Paris or Rome.
Speaker 3: She isn't hearing it, though, and tells him to get lost.
Speaker 3: Freddy yells out, you better recognize I'm fast, Freddy, and
Speaker 3: this gets the attention of two nearby kids, Patrick Renna
Speaker 3: aka Modem and Todd Tom.
Speaker 1: Todd, by the way, looks exactly like carry Elways.
Speaker 2: Did you did you ever know David? No, this is
Speaker 2: David tom So his sister was brother Okay, exactly. So
Speaker 2: Nicole was on the nanny I guess at this time,
Speaker 2: but she was she was working all the time, and
Speaker 2: then David used to work all the time. He and
Speaker 2: I I got really I really wanted this part in
Speaker 2: this movie called Swing Kids. Do you guys remember, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was one of the hottest scripts. It was such
Speaker 2: a cool script, and and I really wanted to I
Speaker 2: think I got close. I don't know. I have from
Speaker 2: whatever I have, And he got the part. He's amazing
Speaker 2: and he's he's it's like the younger brother. It's a
Speaker 2: small part, but it's it's a It was a cool
Speaker 2: movie at the time, and he was David was such
Speaker 2: a good actor. I have no idea what he's doing now.
Speaker 2: And but he used to also be a drummer in
Speaker 2: a band. So we spent a lot of time talking
Speaker 2: music and hanging out during this during this movie. But
Speaker 2: I also knew him back in La We had done
Speaker 2: acting classes together at the Young Actors Space and he
Speaker 2: was so good. But man, he looks like carry always
Speaker 2: like man, he looks like well, his hair is like that,
Speaker 2: her face like slicky. Oh my god. And man, Patrick
Speaker 2: Renna is so good in this movie.
Speaker 1: He's psychopath is he's like literally a sociopath in this movie.
Speaker 1: He doesn't smile, he doesn't do it. It's like he
Speaker 1: kills puppies to make it so dark dark.
Speaker 2: It's a choice, and it's a.
Speaker 1: Little creepy with Freddy and and the young woman. It's
Speaker 1: I know where it's it's in time, but it's I mean,
Speaker 1: they really pushed it far with him.
Speaker 2: Well we also can we also talk about the pre
Speaker 2: pre Sean and angela like necessity for them to be
Speaker 2: of the same race. Like really, like the only other
Speaker 2: black person in this movie is the one girl, and
Speaker 2: that's who you're going to zero in. It's just like
Speaker 2: it's so clear that that was how casting went right,
Speaker 2: Like that's how people thought the black people on the
Speaker 2: bus when he went in. The characters right, And if
Speaker 2: you're going to have a love interest for this character,
Speaker 2: then she has to be black. I mean that was
Speaker 2: just sort of like the rule of you know cast
Speaker 2: him back then, never happened today.
Speaker 3: He doesn't need to know anything about who she is
Speaker 3: as a person at all. He sees her and that's it.
Speaker 3: She's she's attractive, and that's all he needs to know
Speaker 3: about her period, And she is not interested in him
Speaker 3: until she gets to know whether or not he's a
Speaker 3: good person. So the guy has to be a well
Speaker 3: developed character in order to impress the woman.
Speaker 2: But for him, that's it. She's enough.
Speaker 3: We don't even need to learn anything else about her.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 3: Next we see prisoner bus arrive at their grounds. One
Speaker 3: prisoner has a very expensive warrant vintage T shirt on
Speaker 3: that I would get.
Speaker 2: I would lose a limb for Right now, you're recognizing
Speaker 2: T shirts. I love that.
Speaker 1: I also love how any time we're in the prison
Speaker 1: yard or in the car, it's always the same.
Speaker 2: Wow, wow every step of the way. It's great. I
Speaker 2: actually I have a memory that came to me watching
Speaker 2: the movie last night from this bus scene we had.
Speaker 2: It's an Isaac memory. So we were on the bus
Speaker 2: and like the extras were like local Floridians, some of
Speaker 2: them tough looking guys. And this guy add a tattoo
Speaker 2: that just was war on his arm, and Isaac, being
Speaker 2: like friendly, guy was like, what what's up with with war?
Speaker 2: Like would you just you're like war? What's going on?
Speaker 2: And the guy was like, I can't talk about I'll
Speaker 2: tell you later. I'll tell you later. And Isaac was
Speaker 2: like okay. And then when they got off the bus
Speaker 2: after we shot the scene, he was like it stands
Speaker 2: for White Area and Resistance, and Isaac so brave and
Speaker 2: just goes, well, I'm Jewish. Is that gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: And the guy just like got super insecure and super
Speaker 2: weirded out and mumbled and like ran away. Wow yeah
Speaker 2: intense right, oh my gosh, tattoo White airan resistance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I just love that Isaac would just completely right away,
Speaker 2: right away to the guy's face, like, well I'm tooish,
Speaker 2: Like geez, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well there's a prison camp. I mean that's so there's
Speaker 1: but I mean, like, did they specifically go and try
Speaker 1: to get quote unquote prisoners like the prison camp?
Speaker 2: The extra casting can work, It can be all over
Speaker 2: the place. Yeah, So yeah, I mean you're you know,
Speaker 2: you're just getting people that look the part. You see
Speaker 2: their photograph, you don't actually meet them and so if
Speaker 2: you were looking for tough prisoners, you go to prison
Speaker 2: for a prisoner camp. I mean, that's so you're gonna
Speaker 2: get guys who look like they might.
Speaker 3: Have been jumping back in a little bit to the
Speaker 3: story point. Why when Freddy arrives, do they notice that
Speaker 3: his clothes make him stand out? But no one on
Speaker 3: the bus references what you're wearing wearing at all?
Speaker 2: No one's like no one even makes a joke like, no,
Speaker 2: what are you sweater?
Speaker 3: Like nothing, It's just it's like it's and yet you
Speaker 3: stand out way more in that environment than he stands
Speaker 3: out in his.
Speaker 2: So anyway, very little interesting.
Speaker 3: So writer is obviously still trying to get out of
Speaker 3: this predicament on the bus, using yes for a second time.
Speaker 3: And then the Enclave bus arrives at their camp and
Speaker 3: they are greeted by Miss Sykes, the camp administrator, who
Speaker 3: rejects the weird flirtations of Modem and Todd before Freddy
Speaker 3: double checks.
Speaker 2: That he is on the list.
Speaker 1: And it's Mom and Todd Todd.
Speaker 3: She's very impressed by Frederick's father, forcing fast Freddy to
Speaker 3: ask if she saw his rap sheet anyway. He is
Speaker 3: then sent to the Reagan suite, which is palatial and
Speaker 3: posh and filled with preppy dork clothes, a stalked fridge,
Speaker 3: and a phone number for room service, which he uses
Speaker 3: immediately and finds out he can't get junk food. Uses
Speaker 3: a pillowcase to start stealing from the room, just again, instantly, instantly, instantly,
Speaker 3: robbing the place instantly.
Speaker 2: He doesn't think it's going to last. You know, you
Speaker 2: take it, you can get.
Speaker 3: I guess Steeling tries to escape later is what we see.
Speaker 3: He's going to try to.
Speaker 2: Escape what he can and go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a plot point. I can understand. I'm
Speaker 3: in on this. So in the enclaved dining room, Peggy
Speaker 3: is telling Freddy's crush how rich this Frederick Egan is
Speaker 3: and ride on time.
Speaker 2: Here's fast Freddy. He sits with.
Speaker 3: Modem and Todd and Patrick. Renna is really coming off
Speaker 3: as a great d bag like boy.
Speaker 2: And I love this is so early nineties hacker, like
Speaker 2: nobody had computers. There was no internet yet, like you
Speaker 2: didn't have it. But I love that he's just got
Speaker 2: a laptop at the dining table and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Just everybody's bank accounts everything. This was like the fantasy
Speaker 2: for what the Internet could be exactly and it is
Speaker 2: exactly what it is. Well, but we weren't there yet.
Speaker 2: Let's play clip one.
Speaker 6: All right, we certainly could use a little color around here.
Speaker 6: I'm referring to your style. Of course, your skin color
Speaker 6: hardly alienates you from this camp or this table. Wouldn't
Speaker 6: matter if you're purple, as long as your parent could
Speaker 6: come up with the green.
Speaker 2: He plays this with like no affectation. It's like Serial
Speaker 2: Killer weird dark. It is a starker dark, just like
Speaker 2: a dull choice. That's what I love about it is
Speaker 2: that he's just like, well even, I mean, what I
Speaker 2: really struck me is when he goes to my camp
Speaker 2: to kidnap me and he does it to me too.
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, and don't make a sad do
Speaker 2: what the hell? Yeah, it's a weird choice.
Speaker 3: So Modem uses a laptop to look up Frederick Egan
Speaker 3: the Third and sees he's worth seven billion dollars fast.
Speaker 3: Freddy starts nervously coughing what is going on here? He
Speaker 3: jets to talk to Peggy and his crush, who is
Speaker 3: named Christine Olsen, but again she's not into it. Another rejection.
Speaker 3: We also meet a laughing cafeteria chef Jimmy played by
Speaker 3: Richard Mole, with what I can only guess is maybe
Speaker 3: a creole accent.
Speaker 2: That was the attempt.
Speaker 1: I think he was a creole Southern Ish real ish.
Speaker 3: He makes fun of Freddy's way with the ladies and
Speaker 3: calls out that he belongs here as much as a
Speaker 3: gator in a duck pond.
Speaker 2: A gate and a duck pond. A gata and a
Speaker 2: duck pond. I'm telling you, Daniel Fischel, since.
Speaker 3: The truth he just senses he can pick up on
Speaker 3: the truth, yep. And then at the detention center, Sergeant
Speaker 3: Waldron is in his office flirting with a woman on
Speaker 3: the phone when Ryder walks in.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest as he walks in and is like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: interesting choice for summertime.
Speaker 3: Switch well, I think at the very least he's being
Speaker 3: flirty with his girlfriend. Ryder tries to tell him he
Speaker 3: is not a delinquent and asks for a phone call,
Speaker 3: but phone day is tomorrow Wednesday, and then stuck up
Speaker 3: writer slash Frederick leaves and enters his bunk for the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 2: It's just before the cool hand Luke reference.
Speaker 1: There's so he says, it takes the line right from
Speaker 1: cool we got what we got here is a failure
Speaker 1: to communicate the cool with the glasses and everything.
Speaker 2: Yep, just coming sounds like yep, here we go.
Speaker 3: It's just gross cuts and hooligan's everywhere. And this is
Speaker 3: where he meets Numbers, who asks him three to one
Speaker 3: guess how I got my name?
Speaker 2: But writer says this, and no one says, I don't
Speaker 2: give a rat, But yeah, I don't give I remember
Speaker 2: this so well because Isaac he was doing like a
Speaker 2: New York accent that he didn't have, Like he was,
Speaker 2: you know, call me numbers. So he would walk around
Speaker 2: saying this line call me numbers to like get into
Speaker 2: his accent right every day, so like every day and
Speaker 2: said right before we go there we rolling, He'd be like, oh, Numbers,
Speaker 2: that's how we found the accident.
Speaker 1: Very voiceover thing to do, do that all the time.
Speaker 2: Phrase that you need up here.
Speaker 3: So whatever he said it, I was like, that's so funny. Well,
Speaker 3: we also meet Hacksaw, who menacingly says he was the
Speaker 3: first one in his family to stand upright. What does
Speaker 3: that mean? Was his family babies? I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Immediately again we have another. Dan means they are not
Speaker 2: the first one. That's what it was, and just yeah,
Speaker 2: I wanted to get cavemen and here's kept thinking what
Speaker 2: they were for some reason.
Speaker 3: When he said the first one to stand upright, I
Speaker 3: just kept picturing babies on their back and I was like,
Speaker 3: are they all babies? Did they not make it out
Speaker 3: of babyhood? I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, we are proud.
Speaker 1: It is if you want to be that guy, which
Speaker 1: I know you can't do it. No, the you know
Speaker 1: what this was giving me a big vibe of which
Speaker 1: is a phenomenally good movie. Have you seen Holes?
Speaker 3: I did see love that movie, that movie Shila buff
Speaker 3: It is areat movie and it's that same like boys camp.
Speaker 1: They all have their there's arm pit and there's you know,
Speaker 1: like they've argued. They all have their kind of vibe.
Speaker 1: It is so good. You know, you don't have to
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 3: I thought I couldn't tell you one thing about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know one about not a single thing except
Speaker 3: that I liked it.
Speaker 2: That's all I know. I just know that I like it.
Speaker 2: Sigourney Weaver is in.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's it's a great cast it is really
Speaker 1: good in they would love holes, love holes?
Speaker 3: All right, you know what you're doing this weekend writer,
Speaker 3: great movie.
Speaker 2: This scene was my nightmare having to do the like
Speaker 2: the walk in carrying the shoes. For whatever reason, the
Speaker 2: director was so unhappy with Mike and kept saying, go
Speaker 2: bigger show. You know, it was like, be more disgusted.
Speaker 2: This is awful. This is the word, you know, And
Speaker 2: like I was, I could watching it again, I could
Speaker 2: just get I felt like visceral discomfort of like push,
Speaker 2: how do you get that much bigger with the dialogue,
Speaker 2: with what you did? That's what I didn't get myself,
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm just not that kind of actor,
Speaker 2: like and I didn't think of myself like I just
Speaker 2: didn't think that this was that funny. I guess, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just watching this, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is so awful.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess unless he wanted you to go
Speaker 1: so ridiculously caricatry where I think running.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's why I think it is
Speaker 2: my fault. Acting. Was like, if there was any awareness
Speaker 2: or campiness or irony of any sort to this character,
Speaker 2: he's much more likable. It's much more funny, but as
Speaker 2: it is, you're like annoyed by my disdain for everybody
Speaker 2: because it's like you don't. I mean, that's I know,
Speaker 2: but now I don't know. I think there's a way. Look,
Speaker 2: I'd love to go back and acting coach young fourteen
Speaker 2: year old old writer and tell him how to play
Speaker 2: the scene and that it's okay. Uh, and then maybe
Speaker 2: the director isn't wrong, but you know, how do he
Speaker 2: take a note behind the note and find a version
Speaker 2: that works for you? Okay? Could I could have helped
Speaker 2: myself out. It's it was painful to watch, though.
Speaker 3: Well I didn't think it was nearly as bad as
Speaker 3: you agree. I agreed, Yeah, definitely not so okay. We
Speaker 3: are also introduced to Ferret, who was yelling and hissing
Speaker 3: and talking to a toothbrush, and he's called nuts.
Speaker 2: He's really good. He's amazing, so Ty, like I think
Speaker 2: I completely forgot like that he existed, and then I
Speaker 2: started watching this movie, was like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 2: I remember this guy Ty. He was older, he was
Speaker 2: he was an adult, if I remember, he looks like
Speaker 2: he was older than us, but just the best. And
Speaker 2: I remember laughing NonStop with him. He would always he
Speaker 2: I don't know if he had actually done stand up,
Speaker 2: but he would always do bits and he was improvising
Speaker 2: like crazy. So like most of the funniest stuff is
Speaker 2: him improving, and like I guess he was like a
Speaker 2: go to freak out slacker dude and like because there's
Speaker 2: like a common commercial with him in it and like
Speaker 2: you know when he freaks out, Like that's what I remember.
Speaker 2: He was like known for being the guy like yeah
Speaker 2: and has lost I draw like a berserker actor. He's
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 1: He's in this movie.
Speaker 3: He's really really good, and it's great against two totally
Speaker 3: different characters in this movie.
Speaker 2: There's a scene where he's just a different character and
Speaker 2: then and then yeah, so we get to see him twice.
Speaker 2: It's really great.
Speaker 1: But this is what I found so odd about this
Speaker 1: film is that the the people around you are way
Speaker 1: more flushed out and given actual characters than the people
Speaker 1: around the other Freddy Yeah, you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: you wanted that balance of like you get where it's going,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like that at all. And that's why
Speaker 1: I'm like, who am I I don't know who I'm
Speaker 1: rooting for. It's supposed to be rooting for.
Speaker 2: I didn't get it. Who is the protagonist? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess it's Jason, really it's him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It starts with his problem, like he gets sent to camp,
Speaker 2: so it's really it's his predicament that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but it's all so your problem is the same.
Speaker 1: Exact movie could exist if they just started with you
Speaker 1: on the free free throw line. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: like his thing led to your thing. It was just
Speaker 1: his character happened to go first with his problem.
Speaker 2: That's all it was. Was. Yeah, so it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be a two piece, and it just it was.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know who I was rooting for.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, back at Enclave, chef Jimmy catches Freddy walking around
Speaker 3: with his pillowcase filled with stolen goods. Jimmy knows that
Speaker 3: Freddy is lying and was meant to be at the
Speaker 3: work camp down the street, because this is a quote.
Speaker 3: I know the streets. I was raised on them myself.
Speaker 3: So he references the fact that there's a work camp
Speaker 3: down the street, and he recognizes quickly that fast Freddy
Speaker 3: was probably meant to go there, and there's been some
Speaker 3: sort of mix up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the super wealthy camp is always within a
Speaker 1: quarter mile of the prison camp.
Speaker 2: I would like to say, just so it's out there.
Speaker 3: My junior high school was directly next door to the
Speaker 3: juvenile detention junior high school.
Speaker 1: Yes, different than the super well, that'd be like the
Speaker 1: be like Choate in Connecticut or one of these super
Speaker 1: wealthy high schools. Being right next to cho is like
Speaker 1: one of the biggest high schools and.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a bad word. I know.
Speaker 1: No, it's Choate, So like both. No, Choate is like
Speaker 1: where a lot of presidents went. It's where you go
Speaker 1: before or Harvard. Yeah, so it's it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where that's not going to be next to a
Speaker 1: detention center. So this is supposed to be super wealthy camp, right,
Speaker 1: you know, within a stone's throw of the prison camp.
Speaker 2: Very funny. Worked for the work for the piece, worked
Speaker 2: for the peace, It worked out for it. Okay.
Speaker 3: So Jimmy alludes that he won't snitch, and Freddy says
Speaker 3: he just wants him to stay out of his face.
Speaker 3: Back at the work camp, writer is in a scene
Speaker 3: right out of shawsh Ank Redemption, digging a hole, still
Speaker 3: mouthing off to the sergeant and getting nowhere at enclave fast.
Speaker 3: Freddy gets a letter from Frederic's mom, who was on
Speaker 3: safari but sent her a credit card for.
Speaker 2: Him to use.
Speaker 3: She explains that she'll pick him up at the end
Speaker 3: of summer, and Freddy gets to charge gifts for Christine
Speaker 3: onto the gold card, and she starts with He starts
Speaker 3: with the absolute best caviar, which, as we know, all
Speaker 3: high schoolers love.
Speaker 1: Exactly a case a case a case of caviar, ten
Speaker 1: years worth of caviar to the fifteen year old girl.
Speaker 1: I really, we.
Speaker 2: All know, we all know that's everyone's favorite.
Speaker 3: Modem and Todd are watching Freddy and another person play basketball.
Speaker 3: Modem is impressed with the other guy, a camper named Hoops,
Speaker 3: who is maybe a thirty five year old man.
Speaker 2: He is in every bit he is dunking. We had
Speaker 2: these older we had all the basketball players were older.
Speaker 2: They were in college. I actually remember hanging out with
Speaker 2: a couple of them. I could see their faces in
Speaker 2: the background of some of the scenes be like, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: that's good night, guy. But I don't remember their names,
Speaker 2: but there they were, Like you guys in particular, one
Speaker 2: of whom will you'll appreciate this because I was. I
Speaker 2: was big in to role playing games at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like and of all things, well, first of all,
Speaker 2: when you get back then, if you remember, if you
Speaker 2: went to a town like Jacksonville, the first thing you
Speaker 2: had to do was find the local couch book, game
Speaker 2: store or whatever you have to. Like, I remember going
Speaker 2: through the Yellow Pages and you have to look up
Speaker 2: like hobbies, and then like there would be hobby stores
Speaker 2: that would just be like airplane building and you're like, no,
Speaker 2: I want the hobby store that has D and D books.
Speaker 2: And anyway, one of these guys who was way too
Speaker 2: old basketball player played where Wolf the Apocalypse, the role
Speaker 2: playing game I used to play, and it was like,
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that of all the things in Jacksonville,
Speaker 2: I found him. Fellow were wolf player, you found him.
Speaker 2: I also I also remember buying minifig figurines to paint,
Speaker 2: like the Pewter figurines. I got into painting while I
Speaker 2: was doing this movie. I never got any good at it.
Speaker 3: But well, this particular guy who played Hoops was named
Speaker 3: Kent Schaeffer in his only role ever, and he goes
Speaker 3: out of his way to avoid having any lines. They
Speaker 3: actually I mean. They make it very clear he's not
Speaker 3: allowed to talk. Also, Modem notices that Freddy is a
Speaker 3: baller too, and the perfect new addition to their plan.
Speaker 3: Christine walks up furious about her caviat and is not
Speaker 3: interested in some flashy fly talking boy. She's not hearing
Speaker 3: it and she takes off. Modem then extends an invitation
Speaker 3: to Freddy to join the camp, the camp team for
Speaker 3: their game against the detention camp. Oh, we see where
Speaker 3: this is going. Then Freddy says nope and takes off.
Speaker 3: At enclave, we hear a perfectly timed announcement sign up
Speaker 3: today to play basketball against the richie rich kids, and
Speaker 3: it must be Wednesday. Because Writer is calling his dad.
Speaker 3: He tries to explain there has been a huge identity mistake,
Speaker 3: but his dad isn't listening at all.
Speaker 2: He's just focused on work. He hangs up without hearing
Speaker 2: a word. Writer. This is where I noticed. Your skin
Speaker 2: is flawless. Yeah, this is patly.
Speaker 3: You have not a not a thing on your skin.
Speaker 3: You look like this is obviously before filters. I would
Speaker 3: be like they did something to his face. Nobody's face
Speaker 3: is that flawless?
Speaker 2: Prepubescent still gosh, yeah, a year later it would be
Speaker 2: a whole nightmare. So yeah, man, I literally is close
Speaker 2: up on you. I was like, wow, look at that skin.
Speaker 2: There's actually like the whole section of the movie where
Speaker 2: I have like a patch of dirt on the side
Speaker 2: of my face, which made me think, do you guys
Speaker 2: remember like Fuller's Earth? Oh, my god, you have. I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would know that, but Foller's Earth is
Speaker 2: what is fake dirt because you don't want to use
Speaker 2: real dirt on actors faces. So there's a thing called
Speaker 2: Fuller's Earth. I don't know if they still use it
Speaker 2: on set, but it's basically like a powder. It's like
Speaker 2: a makeup. It looks like dirt and it comes in
Speaker 2: big bags, and so whenever you're supposed to be dirty,
Speaker 2: you get Fuller's Earth. When I saw that little patch
Speaker 2: on the side, much like, I don't know it's there.
Speaker 2: I haven't I haven't done enough. You needed to be
Speaker 2: dirtied up.
Speaker 1: Apparently we still also still don't know whatever that hole
Speaker 1: was you were digging like. They never explained it, just
Speaker 1: a hole, get in there.
Speaker 3: And that was so Back in the dining room, writer
Speaker 3: sits with some gross food and the insane kid Ferret,
Speaker 3: who was playing with his mashed potatoes. Frederick tell's Numbers
Speaker 3: and Hacksaw he wants in. They have no idea what
Speaker 3: he's talking about, but Writer explains he's seen the movies.
Speaker 3: He knows they're probably planning a break. Numbers and Hacksaw
Speaker 3: say there is no escape plan, especially since less than
Speaker 3: one percent of these ideas are successful. But still Writer
Speaker 3: offers them cash and the boys say, okay, we'll help you.
Speaker 2: This is this is where the music was doing the
Speaker 2: like the dumb guy music cue, like letting us know
Speaker 2: that this is so bad.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: You ever watched Like Survivor and they always do it
Speaker 2: like now you once you know, like you could just tell,
Speaker 2: like the show is judging this person. Yeah, I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to think this person is dumb because it has that
Speaker 2: kind of music going on, and the music so heavy
Speaker 2: handed that way.
Speaker 3: Well, the next morning, Freddy wakes up in his huge
Speaker 3: bed and says he's living life like Michael Jackson, a
Speaker 3: small nod to his breakout role. He also does a
Speaker 3: little MJ dance move and says I'm bad. Then we
Speaker 3: see him at the pool, still hitting.
Speaker 2: On things, makes himself.
Speaker 3: Blind again another moment where they were like, hey, go ahead,
Speaker 3: just do some just do some cool stuff. You're talented.
Speaker 3: Give us some of your moves and see what you got.
Speaker 3: He is still hitting on Christine unsuccessfully. He also has
Speaker 3: a much higher voice for ad R for some reason.
Speaker 3: You could tell the stuff that was ad R. It's
Speaker 3: significantly higher. Then he runs into Modem who is in
Speaker 3: the pool with a hat on. And I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: swimming with shirt, I'm all four, swimming with a hat
Speaker 3: is a real move.
Speaker 2: But we see later he's got a piece of paper
Speaker 2: in there, so it makes sense. I think it's funny.
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, hat on. He's still talking about the
Speaker 3: basketball team and reveals that he needs poached eggs delivered
Speaker 3: to him every morning or else Freddy Egan from the
Speaker 3: South Side will be exposed, even to Christine. We find
Speaker 3: out he knows about his true identity, and yep, the
Speaker 3: next scene, he's making those poached eggs in the kitchen
Speaker 3: and Chef Jimmy is mad about it. He says, you
Speaker 3: don't oh mote him anything even if he does know,
Speaker 3: And now, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He's a chef. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's going in. He knows how to poach eggs. He's
Speaker 1: cooking the kid dinner. Where did he Where did he pick.
Speaker 2: Up these cheffing skills? Is my question?
Speaker 1: He probably perfectly poached eggs. It's so strange, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, oh lady's a chef chef too, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's interesting.
Speaker 2: This movie also does this thing a couple of times
Speaker 2: where it brings up like it brings up a problem,
Speaker 2: like oh, he's discovered who yeah Freddy is, and then
Speaker 2: it just kind of doesn't matter anymore. No, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. They're like, we need steaks, and they're like,
Speaker 2: how can I say something about it?
Speaker 1: Okay that note or just have Freddy cook perfect stakes
Speaker 1: is it's when you already brought up where we like
Speaker 1: actually confront each other and to everybody what's happening, and
Speaker 1: everyone just goes, we're.
Speaker 2: Coming up to that.
Speaker 3: So and now Freddie needs Jimmy's help to get Christine.
Speaker 3: Freddy says, since the cook hasn't routed Freddy out, he
Speaker 3: must be a good brother. And then Chef Jimmy says,
Speaker 3: this man, I got.
Speaker 2: A sister in Georgia and three brothers in Jersey. You
Speaker 2: ain't my brother? What you wait, my brother? What what
Speaker 2: does that mean? Okay?
Speaker 3: Sure, anyway, Jimmy tells him to be an honest gentleman
Speaker 3: to Christine, but Freddie isn't hearing it. At the same time,
Speaker 3: Modem hacks into the Las Vegas mainframe and somehow gets
Speaker 3: the Camp basketball team into their sports book so people
Speaker 3: can bet on the game.
Speaker 2: This will never come back up.
Speaker 3: Just fyo, the betting, the money, nothing, This will never
Speaker 3: be mentioned again.
Speaker 2: This is this.
Speaker 3: You'll never hear about it. Don't expect to wrap up
Speaker 3: on this. It just doesn't come back.
Speaker 2: You do love talking about Stacks.
Speaker 3: It's true that you do. You do think you they
Speaker 3: threatened stakes. They thinks it.
Speaker 2: You otherwise this whole storyline like why does Modem care,
Speaker 2: you know, unless unless there's real reasons.
Speaker 1: Trying to keep him on the basketball team and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: But it's yeah, never, She's right, it never comes up.
Speaker 1: Do you lose?
Speaker 3: He says, it's not as tough as those Pearl Jam
Speaker 3: tickets they scored.
Speaker 2: And then they bet two million dollars on the game.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a very grounded scene and writer gets
Speaker 3: another call to his dad, so it also must be Wednesday. Again,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a full week. His dad is on
Speaker 3: a construction site. It's been three weeks.
Speaker 1: Three. It's a third call, so it's three weeks of
Speaker 1: the month he's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: It's a second. I think it's it's second call. Didn't
Speaker 2: hear him. It was the day before Wednesday, exactly a
Speaker 2: full week now, Yeah, so you're two weeks into a
Speaker 2: one month sentence, or at least eight days because Tuesday
Speaker 2: you tried.
Speaker 3: Then the next day was Wednesday, and then it's now
Speaker 3: next Wednesday, so it's been eight days.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So his dad is on a construction site with faulty
Speaker 3: cell phone service. Again they attempt to fix. So the
Speaker 3: attempt to fix the mistake is unsuccessful. So that night
Speaker 3: the tunnel plan with numbers and Hacksaw is on, but
Speaker 3: it ends up being a prank where a rider gets
Speaker 3: sprayed with water and they're all caught redhanded and sent
Speaker 3: to trash pick up on the highway the next day.
Speaker 2: Now this is where I finally felt like I was okay, okay, great,
Speaker 2: see I was like, well, I mean, first of all,
Speaker 2: like I remember this. I remember shooting this obviously because
Speaker 2: I get covered in water and light, there's lots of remember.
Speaker 2: But I also remember like, this is one of the
Speaker 2: first night scenes I ever shot, and I remember being
Speaker 2: so like shocked at how much lighting you need, like
Speaker 2: a condor without giant, big blue moonlight. Shooting at night
Speaker 2: in the woods is like you have to have so
Speaker 2: much light to just be able to see. And then though,
Speaker 2: but man, like, do you guys catch the really awkward
Speaker 2: moment where I go to recha the wrench, you're holding
Speaker 2: your head the wrench, just hold they take it. It's like,
Speaker 2: but I do like that at least I'm like being
Speaker 2: a snap. See. Here's where I'm like being a snob
Speaker 2: and like I think I'm better than you in a
Speaker 2: funny way. Well, I'm like I got this, yeah, I
Speaker 2: could tell, you know. And it's like, rather than discussed,
Speaker 2: I'm playing like cocky, which is just the one way
Speaker 2: should be a pretentious rich person. It's more likable. It's
Speaker 2: more it's like, oh, this guy has no clue how
Speaker 2: much of an ass he is. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: whereas before it's like me constantly letting everyone else know
Speaker 2: how much they suck our dirty or look weird and
Speaker 2: it's just not good. Like so this I was like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, this is fun. Now at trash pick up,
Speaker 2: the Enclave bus first fluids. Oh really, water sewage dump
Speaker 2: on me. Let's get to that fluid coverage number one.
Speaker 3: The Enclave bus drives by the prisoners, and Modem and
Speaker 3: Todd instruct the adult bus driver to pull over. They
Speaker 3: have a plan. They ask the workers rider, Hacksaw and
Speaker 3: Numbers if they want to cool off because they're hot,
Speaker 3: and the apparently street smart kids stupidly say yeah, we're thirsty.
Speaker 2: Like there's a few things leading up to this. How
Speaker 2: about the fact that the adults are in on sure?
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 1: That that the guy the guy says, hey, bus driver,
Speaker 1: pull over, and the guys you got it, Yeah, I now.
Speaker 2: Pull over, no problem.
Speaker 1: And just very quickly before that, uh, the police officer
Speaker 1: when he's when he's yelling at them, he's pointing with
Speaker 1: two fingers, and it's very odd because who points.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the teach you that when you are
Speaker 3: a when you're at Disneyland, when you work at Disneyland,
Speaker 3: if you ask anybody where anything is, they point with
Speaker 3: two fingers because they never want anyone to think they're
Speaker 3: pointing at them.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you so so, so, then you think the
Speaker 1: police officer went to Disneyland training school.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: And I also there's another moment later where they shake
Speaker 3: their rich they shake hands like wrists, and I think
Speaker 3: I think everyone in this movie was Disney and plat.
Speaker 2: Okay, that may okay, Well then you just explained it.
Speaker 2: That makes okay.
Speaker 3: So then writer Numbers and Hacksaw are doused with some
Speaker 3: sort garious trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they had to, like they have. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was clearly a choice because it was like, why
Speaker 2: would my character get get and you have it so bad?
Speaker 2: It's such bad overacting, like, oh I've lost my balance gang,
Speaker 2: Oh what is this supposed to be? Yeah? I don't
Speaker 2: know what is it? What's the giant? Were talking about?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 2: I was always getting covered because in my Giant I
Speaker 2: get dumped on. It's like whenever you're a kid actor
Speaker 2: you get dumped on. You get what is it supposed
Speaker 2: to be? We have in a in a in a
Speaker 2: cooler cooler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a giant, white giant cooler full of nasty white.
Speaker 2: Anything. So now now you make me really it's secure
Speaker 2: about this movie. This is uh, this is an interesting choice.
Speaker 2: It is, my god, all I remember about this more
Speaker 2: than it is Tie improvising the whole like Beware of
Speaker 2: the Eyes of March day, Like when he said calling
Speaker 2: us after the domp and he's like they just rolled
Speaker 2: the camera and he just kept pocket and freaking out.
Speaker 2: It was hysterical, like I'm losing it that whole day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was a funny guy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, oh my gosh, Okay, anyway, the sergeant
Speaker 3: just sits back and watches this happen.
Speaker 2: He doesn't do a thing, no, of course, not of course,
Speaker 2: Jason yep.
Speaker 3: But then back on the rich Enclave bus, Freddy stands
Speaker 3: up for the prisoner kids and tells Modem and Todd
Speaker 3: to raise up, impressing a nearby Christine. Also back on
Speaker 3: the side of the road, Numbers helps write her up
Speaker 3: and we have a new respect and friendship between them.
Speaker 3: Back at enclave, Freddy is watching Christine play tennis, and
Speaker 3: when they say good match, they shake.
Speaker 2: Wrists like this. It's fascinating.
Speaker 1: It's also just a weird tennis lesson all the way around,
Speaker 1: the woman just holding on to her the whole time.
Speaker 1: Swinging the racket for or twice and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, great, lesson you greatly pick something up there.
Speaker 3: So, uh, it seems like this possible couple is starting
Speaker 3: to get along because of what he did on the bus.
Speaker 3: He asks her to the camp dance dance and she
Speaker 3: says yes. The sergeant also tells his work crew they
Speaker 3: didn't deserve the slime dowsing by Enclave, but he's interrupted
Speaker 3: by another romantic phone call and he can't hide.
Speaker 2: I no longer have a sweater vest shirt guy. I
Speaker 2: also like to feel like I'm in the movie exactly.
Speaker 2: I was also like this the line. I like the
Speaker 2: line that I even wrote it down. Tough times don't last,
Speaker 2: tough people do. I like him, like the big giant
Speaker 2: sign behind him, the eyes well again, the sign.
Speaker 1: Budget for this movie was off the chart, but it was.
Speaker 2: I loved that. That's a great sentiment.
Speaker 1: That's a great sentiment.
Speaker 3: And at Enclave, we see Freddy bringing the poached eggs
Speaker 3: to Modem, but it's actually been replaced by a rat
Speaker 3: and a card that says you are what you eat.
Speaker 3: But Modem just says to get it out of here.
Speaker 3: And I just don't understand.
Speaker 2: This beat at all. No, I would he not be
Speaker 2: more mad about this.
Speaker 1: And nothing because he doesn't feel he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He just expose Freddy.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, because he needs them from the
Speaker 1: basketball because he's got two million dollars.
Speaker 3: In the game now, so he's got million dollars. Speaking
Speaker 3: of some confusion. Here we are at the dance. Freddy
Speaker 3: is dancing with Christine and bragging about his father, which
Speaker 3: we know are all lies, and Christine is showing she's
Speaker 3: real down to earth even though she's rich, so Ley
Speaker 3: is deep.
Speaker 2: Jo I was sitting here going, oh, we're already at
Speaker 2: the dance, right, but because you usually saved the dance
Speaker 2: for the dance. But this movie is like a combo
Speaker 2: between like high school teen movies where the dance is
Speaker 2: the big third act thing and the sports movie basketball,
Speaker 2: and it tries to do both up with.
Speaker 3: Two endings, and you don't really realize that either of
Speaker 3: those two things are super important. There's only been very
Speaker 3: casual mention of both of them, and so.
Speaker 2: You're like, is the dance important? Is the game important?
Speaker 2: Because you gotta have Jason Weaver singing dance, That's what
Speaker 2: it is exactly.
Speaker 1: He's the only one singing and dancing because all the
Speaker 1: other dancing couples look like they are being tortured to
Speaker 1: be there.
Speaker 2: It is the most well, we're.
Speaker 3: Playing bad movie. She's the whole point is that she's
Speaker 3: playing bad music. I said, movies.
Speaker 2: She's playing.
Speaker 1: These poor people like spinning around each other, just looking
Speaker 1: at there's a couple behind you that I swear to God,
Speaker 1: right before they said action got into a huge fight
Speaker 1: right beforehand.
Speaker 2: It was not I just had a memory. The only
Speaker 2: time I've ever done peri oke was during this movie,
Speaker 2: and I did David Tom and Patrick Renna I don't
Speaker 2: and we must have been out with Jason, but he
Speaker 2: didn't do it with it, but we the three of
Speaker 2: us and sang something. Anyway, I haven't done karaoke since
Speaker 2: I'm so bad and so yeah, but what happened during
Speaker 2: the karaoke We were doing some kind of like spontaneous
Speaker 2: dance move and I slammed the mic into David Tom's
Speaker 2: oh I know, and like gave him a black eye,
Speaker 2: and god, yeah, it was like bad. He was like
Speaker 2: really hurt and like kind of upset and like of
Speaker 2: course a horrible singer. So never done karaoke since but.
Speaker 1: No, I mean the usually not had many injuries in karaoke.
Speaker 1: That's impressive.
Speaker 2: It is impressive.
Speaker 3: Well, so Leigh's DJing and Hoops is housing eggs, and
Speaker 3: when the music gets boring, Freddy says he wants to
Speaker 3: show Christine something he's been working on. But outside Modem
Speaker 3: has crossed the river to the Bad Camp and luckily
Speaker 3: is right there. When Ryder walks by, he grabs him
Speaker 3: and tells him he wants to take him to the
Speaker 3: dance and introduce him to his evil twin, the other
Speaker 3: Freddy Egan, Right, housing, when you when you eat something
Speaker 3: like a ton of it, you're housing.
Speaker 1: You're housing it. Never even never heard that housing something inthing.
Speaker 2: This is a this is a horrible scene. It's all
Speaker 2: in one shot. I think what happened is like it
Speaker 2: was a last minute I think we were probably it
Speaker 2: was probably the same night we were doing the moonlight Escape,
Speaker 2: and it's like they grab the camera and they're like,
Speaker 2: just find a corner over here, we'll pretend the fences
Speaker 2: right there. You guys, just do your in one shot,
Speaker 2: we'll get out of here and take and then because
Speaker 2: none of it makes sense, like we're losing light, we're
Speaker 2: losing light. We're like, yeah, we have to play open
Speaker 2: to the camera, like because we just have this one
Speaker 2: two shot that's all. It's so bad. It's weird. It's weird,
Speaker 2: like and there's also just no recognition that there's this
Speaker 2: dude and like full cameo and face pain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just okay, I gotta go get hacks on numbers.
Speaker 1: Why so is he just going by himself? The guy
Speaker 1: who's supposed to be like the mastermind of the whole
Speaker 1: thing goes to the bad camp to break in by himself,
Speaker 1: to go grab hoping that this guy is going to
Speaker 1: walk by him at some point.
Speaker 2: And luckily he's there. He's just right there.
Speaker 1: It's like, why not send one of your minions or
Speaker 1: five of them, but you're going to go buy yourself into.
Speaker 2: The camp whatever and just get a d It made
Speaker 2: no sense.
Speaker 1: And also I love how he's he's changing his call
Speaker 1: sign every time he gets on.
Speaker 2: His mother every time. What does he hoping happens? Just
Speaker 2: trying to bring you to the camp. Yeah, he's just
Speaker 2: going to find you, But what's going to happen? Because
Speaker 2: isn't that going to ruin his basketball? But then none
Speaker 2: of it makes none of that because if he if
Speaker 2: he doesn't, because he can already expose Freddy. He already
Speaker 2: can do it. He has the power. It was, so now.
Speaker 3: Is the reason he's going to do it. He's going
Speaker 3: to give up the bat because he has Hoops. So
Speaker 3: maybe he's decided, without this being explained at all, he's decided.
Speaker 2: Well, that rat was the last the last thing. He
Speaker 2: could just expose Freddy. He could just take the piece
Speaker 2: of paper from his hat, go to the people.
Speaker 3: That right, much more interesting to do it, Freddy, say,
Speaker 3: expose what actually happened to everybody? So Hoops is just
Speaker 3: housing eggs as I mentioned, and.
Speaker 2: Jason Siggs and dances and he's gray. Okay.
Speaker 3: Back at the dance, Freddie has taken over DJing and
Speaker 3: performs his own song that Girl with more MJ Moves.
Speaker 3: He is good and Christine loves it. Also, we find
Speaker 3: out that the sergeant's lady friend from the phone calls
Speaker 3: is the Posh Camps director, Miss Sikes. They rendezvous at
Speaker 3: the dance and kiss, but also Ryder and his crew
Speaker 3: have arrived. They interrupt the music celebration to present the
Speaker 3: real Frederick Egan the Third and It's Rider the gig
Speaker 3: is up whoa major moment the movie should be over
Speaker 3: at this point. The audience reacts.
Speaker 2: Whole basketball game? Is this really gonna end right now?
Speaker 2: I thought the same thing, and I was so tired
Speaker 2: I was doing remember being here for the scene at
Speaker 2: all either, which is so weird because usually remember big
Speaker 2: crowd scenes like this well as a person who didn't
Speaker 2: remember being in the crowd at Thriller Thrilla and Phila.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: You know when when there's a long day like that
Speaker 3: and you're not really doing much, you just forget those days.
Speaker 3: So the Fred's meet, they get into a small fight.
Speaker 3: Luckily the cop is there being all sexy with his
Speaker 3: lady friend and he gets his home.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know her name. We're ran past that. We
Speaker 1: been phone sexing with this woman forever. They've been talking
Speaker 1: a long time and know her name. Yeah, he calls
Speaker 1: it a lot. Yeah, yeah, right, I know. But you
Speaker 1: figure you get you don't just jump to nickname. You
Speaker 1: go from regular name to nickname. That's the progression.
Speaker 3: So he gets the hoodlumbs out of there, including the
Speaker 3: wrong Freddy once again. But isn't everything now exposed? And
Speaker 3: then Hoops passes out from too many eggs. Then we're
Speaker 3: back at enclave. Numbers is bummed to find out that
Speaker 3: Hoops is very sick from eating all the eggs and
Speaker 3: can't play in the game. That would not be Numbers
Speaker 3: who would be bummed by that, right, it would be Moodem.
Speaker 3: Modem is bummed to find out that Hoops is very
Speaker 3: sick for me to all the eggs and can't play
Speaker 3: in the game. And there is zero discussion about what
Speaker 3: was just exposed.
Speaker 1: Freddie is there, like hanging out with them now, no
Speaker 1: thing has changed.
Speaker 2: Freddy's in the background, he's dancing talking with them, like,
Speaker 2: what the hell's happened? What am I missing here?
Speaker 3: It's never brought up again, isn't They shouldn't that have
Speaker 3: been the end of the switcheroo? But no, it's just
Speaker 3: we move right on past it, as if that didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Makes no sense anyway. Now they need Freddy. Who are
Speaker 3: they are still calling Frederick? They know he's not Frederick now,
Speaker 3: but okay, they they need him to join the team.
Speaker 2: They believe me is the whole point, right, they say,
Speaker 2: like that guy's trying to get Freddy like so they
Speaker 2: at the dance. Nobody believed me, so everything else what
Speaker 2: it was, and did they just do it with like ad.
Speaker 1: R where they tried to throw in lines that were
Speaker 1: off camera of people going like, that's not Freddy. I mean,
Speaker 1: is that how they tried to explain.
Speaker 2: It says like that guy's you know, trying to get
Speaker 2: Freddy or something, and.
Speaker 3: So at least also, if they didn't do that long
Speaker 3: reaction shot of the audience taking it all in, you
Speaker 3: could have also believed that they were distracted by so
Speaker 3: many other things. Wait a minute, miss miss has her
Speaker 3: tank top off and they're hooking up, and oh the
Speaker 3: stuff and and oh it just got lost in the fray.
Speaker 3: But they like do this long shot of the audience
Speaker 3: going Freddy, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: So why did I have to bring my friends right?
Speaker 2: Like make this whole meal? But then they don't do
Speaker 2: anything now except get us in trouble because we have
Speaker 2: a bunch of prison kids who escaped.
Speaker 1: By the way, yes you have now officially escaped from
Speaker 1: prison camp, which was which you were you were sentenced
Speaker 1: to be at.
Speaker 2: So sentence I got. Yeah, I could also just you know,
Speaker 2: maybe called my dad or yeah, I'm called it. My
Speaker 2: butler figured out a way to note go home.
Speaker 3: No, So Freddy says he has already said no to
Speaker 3: joining the team, But when Modem threatens to tell Christine
Speaker 3: about his real identity again, he buckles and joins, I
Speaker 3: know I'm repeating myself here, but Christine already knows this
Speaker 3: from the dance. She knows, wasn't She question like, Hey,
Speaker 3: what was that? What was that that happened?
Speaker 2: Can we talk about that giant thing that just happened
Speaker 2: and what was that about? Nope.
Speaker 3: Back at detention camp, the sergeant is getting his basketball
Speaker 3: squad together to beat Enclave and says every man who
Speaker 3: plays in the game will get a work reduction. So
Speaker 3: now even writer is actually invested in beating the spoiled brats,
Speaker 3: so he'll play and coach them. On the other side
Speaker 3: of the camps, Christine.
Speaker 2: And Freddy, great way to accommodate Rider Strong being in
Speaker 2: your movie. Absolutely, I have a very unathletic kid who's
Speaker 2: supposed to be the savior of your basketball team. You
Speaker 2: say he's gonna coach them, right, It's so smart. I
Speaker 2: was like, thank god they said that.
Speaker 3: Yep. Christine and Freddie are really getting along at the
Speaker 3: other camp. But Christine wants to meet his parents. He's
Speaker 3: clearly nervous about this, but says she will soon. Also,
Speaker 3: Frederick slimo driver swings by to drop off a Kashmir comforter,
Speaker 3: So Freddie hides in the shower and avoids getting busted.
Speaker 3: But also, but what he was busted at the dance.
Speaker 3: I have to drop this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you can't, you can't. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things where there's just you can't logic.
Speaker 2: When he is in the power, he doesn't try to
Speaker 2: change his voice at all. He's just he doesn't do something.
Speaker 2: It's just not your voice. She's doesn't very high like this,
Speaker 2: he doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: How about also just the chauffeur just walking into the
Speaker 1: bathroom is in the shower, Like that's a little little
Speaker 1: odd too. So yeah, very very strange.
Speaker 3: Well, we see the prisoners basketball practice, which isn't going great,
Speaker 3: but they learned that crazy Ferret has an incredible shot.
Speaker 3: Writer convinces him to join the team, and again we
Speaker 3: see Writer's glorious perfect skin in a nice close up
Speaker 3: the rich kid sweat sweaty rider.
Speaker 2: No, this is where I was like, oh well this
Speaker 2: is this makes sense? Like how do you make you know,
Speaker 2: a basketball team better like have this outsider character and
Speaker 2: me sort of bringing the team together. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is you mean, it's right, but can.
Speaker 1: We talk about just a big of another big kind
Speaker 1: of point where it should never have been basketball, right,
Speaker 1: It should have been a rich sport where usually underprivileged
Speaker 1: kids don't have the opportunity to play it. Where basketball
Speaker 1: it's basketball. Everybody can play basketball. So the kids at
Speaker 1: the delinquent camp are are you know, are gonna get
Speaker 1: a chance. They're gonna know how to play basketball? It
Speaker 1: you made it polo or something very richy rich, it
Speaker 1: would have made more sense to me that that. It's like,
Speaker 1: how the hell are we gonna beat rich kid camptball?
Speaker 2: Though? Man, I know, but it was just.
Speaker 1: One of those things where it's basketball is it's a
Speaker 1: game from the streets. I mean that's what That's what
Speaker 1: basketball is. That's the soul of basketball. So like that
Speaker 1: didn't make sense to me either.
Speaker 3: The rich kid practice is going very poorly without hoops,
Speaker 3: and one of the weirdest parts of the movie occurs
Speaker 3: when Freddie explains that he can help because he's good
Speaker 3: at basketball.
Speaker 2: You know, I got to spiel it know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I got the skills to pay the bills.
Speaker 6: So watch how I shoot the chef.
Speaker 2: Now, I got skills, just like what Tim Hardaway see it.
Speaker 2: I got SKUs four times, at least four times. I
Speaker 2: get it. You have you've got skills. You've got skills.
Speaker 2: You think. They probably just let him improvise.
Speaker 3: They just told him go out there and do that,
Speaker 3: and he just kind of it's great, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: You still enjoy it, you're still in But it's just
Speaker 3: funny because I knew, Oh, that was definitely a moment
Speaker 3: where they let him improv because I was like.
Speaker 2: Nobody wrote a line where they wrote four times, I
Speaker 2: got skills.
Speaker 3: So we see Modem working on are on creating a
Speaker 3: remote control magnetic basketball all like you do. Okay, more
Speaker 3: confusion here. Writer is practicing basketball way into the night
Speaker 3: when Ferrett joins.
Speaker 2: Him at a detention camp.
Speaker 3: Yes it is once noting for the scene. Ferrett is
Speaker 3: a completely different character. He sounds different. He is maybe
Speaker 3: twenty percent as crazy as he's been all movie. He
Speaker 3: teaches Writer how to shoot in about ten seconds, but
Speaker 3: again he is no longer insane. We also learned that
Speaker 3: his parents left him in a dumpster when he was born,
Speaker 3: and then writer connects with him about parental neglect and
Speaker 3: they practiced some more.
Speaker 2: The worst scene effort like that my character relate is,
Speaker 2: I guess left in a dumpster. Your dad's a billionaires.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of have you guys ever heard of
Speaker 2: affluenza like that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, defense that some kid got. Yes. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, I've had it. You know, it's really
Speaker 2: hard to be super wealthy by your parents.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're coming from a dumpster and
Speaker 2: you talk to your toothbrush and then let me just
Speaker 2: throw your toothbrush away. I know, what a dick ye happening.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's I was like, am I like?
Speaker 2: Am I telling him to grow up and let go
Speaker 2: of his childish what you're saying? He runs after the
Speaker 2: two he does runs for a second. The character think
Speaker 2: he's playing that's what.
Speaker 3: This same is the worst scene. It's the weirdest weirdness
Speaker 3: scene of the whole movie.
Speaker 1: I also think Ferrett is the only one wearing a
Speaker 1: black jumpsuit, and I believe the numbers on the back
Speaker 1: are six six six. What if I think it's that
Speaker 1: they gave him the devil's numbers on the back to
Speaker 1: ye this is the worst.
Speaker 3: Same Well, back in the kitchen, Freddy is freaking out
Speaker 3: to chef Jimmy about his predicament. Jimmy reveals that in
Speaker 3: his hood he was a stupid little street punk. So
Speaker 3: people can change. He gives he gives words of motivation
Speaker 3: and says Christine likes him, not the fake character he's.
Speaker 2: This is a good scene with the two. Great is
Speaker 2: very good. This is the sort of like sentimentality that
Speaker 2: this movie could use.
Speaker 3: These are the best scenes between the that have used
Speaker 3: some of this for writer's parents, maybe to see them
Speaker 3: having a little bit of a some sort of realization
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: A better Ferret connection scene. Yeah, I mean that's Paul.
Speaker 2: But they don't bond. There's the you're fred Freddy.
Speaker 1: Fred Rick is bonding with his cellmates, Yeah, and becoming
Speaker 1: part of that crew, Freddie.
Speaker 2: They don't have that at all.
Speaker 1: They have him connecting with this one character, which is great,
Speaker 1: but there's no balance between the two. It's like and
Speaker 1: then we'll get to it where he later apologized everybody like,
Speaker 1: we're still love you. He never connected with any of
Speaker 1: these people. They never show him connecting with his team.
Speaker 1: They don't show him connecting with anybody. It's so weird.
Speaker 3: Well, it's now basketball game day. We see the rich
Speaker 3: parents and suits and fancy cars, and the hoodlum parents
Speaker 3: arriving on motorcycles, drinking beers and barping, and oh, the
Speaker 3: rich Frederick the Third's dad and mom have arrived to
Speaker 3: surprise their son at the game, Jim. Christine meets them
Speaker 3: in the camp director's office. She is shocked they're white.
Speaker 3: She confronts Freddy mad he didn't tell her. He seems
Speaker 3: so tired of lying, so then he tells her and
Speaker 3: all of his basketball teammates and the cheerleaders the truth
Speaker 3: about everything. He is, poor Freddie Egan from the streets
Speaker 3: of the South Side, who doesn't even know who his
Speaker 3: parents are. He calls himself scum and says the only
Speaker 3: honest thing he said is that this has been the
Speaker 3: best summer of his life. And then Christine says they
Speaker 3: like him no matter who he is. She accepts him,
Speaker 3: and everyone accepts him, and just like that, it's all
Speaker 3: totally okay.
Speaker 2: You didn't bond with any of these people, But also,
Speaker 2: what about the fact that they all heard this at
Speaker 2: the dance. Ugh, it's so strange.
Speaker 3: So Ryder's mom catches up with him, and he is
Speaker 3: disappointed to see him with such hoodlums, but Ryder stands
Speaker 3: up for himself and his friends. When his mom looks
Speaker 3: to his dad for support, he doesn't care. He's just
Speaker 3: ready to cheer him on numbers.
Speaker 2: Is happy to.
Speaker 3: See this progress and now it's game time, noting now
Speaker 3: that Ferrett is crazy again.
Speaker 2: He is no longer the guy we saw in the
Speaker 2: last scene. He's crazy now.
Speaker 3: The Fred's face off for the jump ball important plot point.
Speaker 3: They are giving a magnetic ball by modem. Did anyone
Speaker 3: remember that moment? I forgot that that happened?
Speaker 1: Yes, but have we had There's no mention at all
Speaker 1: from Freddy's parents, Frederick's parents about why are you at
Speaker 1: that camp, why are you on this team, whether you happened.
Speaker 2: Why are you wearing a jumpsuit? Why were you just
Speaker 2: in prison? No mention of any of this.
Speaker 3: No, And it's supposed to be that the cop pushes
Speaker 3: them along that like, oh he covered it, rushes, keep god,
Speaker 3: gotta keep moving, got.
Speaker 2: To rush over this.
Speaker 3: But it the amount of suspension of disbelief you have
Speaker 3: to have to keep going with this is a lot. Also,
Speaker 3: I really truly did forget the magnetic ball part.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like then they reminded us that this
Speaker 3: had happened. I completely, honestly had forgotten about Modem. Modem's
Speaker 3: been gone for a long time, Modem's involvement in this.
Speaker 3: I feel like they could have maybe reminded us a
Speaker 3: little bit about Modem's involvement. So Out the Gate Enclave
Speaker 3: takes an early lead, especially when Modem turns on the
Speaker 3: ball magnet, making the prisoner's ball wildly spin around the
Speaker 3: basket basket, which is a decent affer.
Speaker 2: It was normal to wear a T shirt under your jersey,
Speaker 2: like I am, yeah you can't. It was normal.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's not too bad, now, writer, did you have
Speaker 3: a basketball double here?
Speaker 2: Because you look yes you did, okay.
Speaker 4: Right away.
Speaker 2: He's an extra in other scenes too. He's I think
Speaker 2: he's in the dance scene. He's figured prominently, has like
Speaker 2: the same hair as me, and he's like slightly taller
Speaker 2: and thinner and an amazing basketball player. Yeah, they really good.
Speaker 2: It was lucky they found him. Yeah, okayt Yeah, we
Speaker 2: knew it. We knew that. Whenever it's me, it's a
Speaker 2: close up and Jason off camera saying double dribble, double dribble, dribble.
Speaker 2: It's in the wheelchair.
Speaker 1: The Nancy Kerrigan scene is they're wheeling me around the
Speaker 1: ice to look like I gainst gate. It's the basketball equivalent.
Speaker 3: So Chef Jimmy is in the stands and he's figuring
Speaker 3: out something is wrong with that ball. During halftime where
Speaker 3: Enclave leads by eighteen, Jimmy finds Modem and destroys the
Speaker 3: trick ball. Modem's plan and the two million dollar bet
Speaker 3: have been exposed, So I guess the plan does come
Speaker 3: The two million dollar thing does come back up here.
Speaker 2: A little bits.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit, a little it's mentioned at least.
Speaker 3: So then Chef Jimmy tells Freddy about Modem's trickery and
Speaker 3: suggests Freddy sit out the second half to make this fair.
Speaker 2: He says, it's the right thing to do, the miss
Speaker 2: thing I have ever heard. I know what. Why does
Speaker 2: Jason get punished like what? He has to sit out
Speaker 2: the game because this other kid cheated? Right right? No,
Speaker 2: it is the it's the worst plan, and it's so
Speaker 2: insulting to the protagonist of our movie Done the Right
Speaker 2: Thing is a good basketball player, and yet he's supposed
Speaker 2: to take a back seat like that is It's the
Speaker 2: weirdest logic.
Speaker 1: No. I also love how they say to you that
Speaker 1: when your two characters get together, he says, look, I
Speaker 1: know there's been some bad blood between us. It's like
Speaker 1: bad blood. You stole my life and put me in prison.
Speaker 1: This is not bad blood. It's like, hey, I know
Speaker 1: there's been some stuff. It's like at also the truth, No,
Speaker 1: he didn't. He also stole the other guy's life. It
Speaker 1: was a total mistake by.
Speaker 3: Both of that There's actually been no bad blood between
Speaker 3: the two of you.
Speaker 2: It's so weird. It's the so thing is odd.
Speaker 3: Freddy walks up to Rider, clears the air, and takes
Speaker 3: a spot on the bench, allowing the detention camp to
Speaker 3: catch up. In a montage worth noting, many of the
Speaker 3: shots of the ball going into the basket do not
Speaker 3: match the shots that are taken.
Speaker 2: I saw the same shot of.
Speaker 3: The ball going into the basket and over again, even
Speaker 3: with the ball shot from the other side. Okay, there
Speaker 3: are two seconds left, and left an enclave only leads
Speaker 3: by one. It's seventy eight to seventy seven. Last play
Speaker 3: of the game, Prisoner's Ball. They inbound to Rider and
Speaker 3: he's fouled just as the clock runs out. Yes, so
Speaker 3: Rider will go to the free throw line and has
Speaker 3: to take has to make both shots to win the game.
Speaker 3: Just like the scrimmage we saw at the very beginning
Speaker 3: of the movie. Cool Rider gets ready for his first
Speaker 3: shot with his parents looking on and the crowd is
Speaker 3: going nuts, and then he hears Ferret's coaching advice in
Speaker 3: his head. He shoots, and he hits the first shot.
Speaker 2: Tie game. Don't show you take the shot. They don't
Speaker 2: even show you take the shot.
Speaker 1: You take the shot, and they cut to it going
Speaker 1: like could you not make a free throw?
Speaker 2: Or did they not? Probably not? Okay, they can roll enough.
Speaker 1: Times to get one, and then they show you, actually, I.
Speaker 2: Probably tried fifteen times. They're like, you know, let's just
Speaker 2: call it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, diminishing returns, So he's square. He takes the second shot,
Speaker 3: he squares up, and he exit the detention camp wins
Speaker 3: by one thanks to sports ball Master Riders strong.
Speaker 2: And how is this supposed to be an accomplishment when they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make but you also make the second one,
Speaker 1: and you just go there's no like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I mean it's just and then finally like there's a
Speaker 1: beat of silence, and then the team comes over. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, that's right, that was the second one. You
Speaker 1: just won the game.
Speaker 2: It was such like a games over the thing.
Speaker 3: So his team and their fans storm the court, I know.
Speaker 2: The other Freddy positive thing, call the game off, do
Speaker 2: it again without magnetic balls, and like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know who we're supposed to root for. I still
Speaker 1: don't know who I'm supposed to root for in this movie.
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 2: They wanted to have it both, they wanted to have
Speaker 2: it be both of us, and it's just too much. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's also not think about the race connotations here. Let's
Speaker 2: just that's it's like, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 3: So now, after the game, camp instructor, Miss Sikes explains
Speaker 3: to Freddy that Modem and Todd are busted for racketeering
Speaker 3: and gambling. Also, she's learned all about the original bus
Speaker 3: mix up and will contact the Juvenile Board about his
Speaker 3: exemplary behavior. Then him and Cook Jimmy have kind of
Speaker 3: a long emotional moment that ends in a hug. As
Speaker 3: he leaves, Christine pops up to kiss him and tells
Speaker 3: him she likes him even if he doesn't have a dollar.
Speaker 3: He reveals Miss Sykes offered him a job at the camp,
Speaker 3: and he has a new fall. He has a new
Speaker 3: a new foster parent cook Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Okay, everything a lots going on. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 2: dad now, is fair? Its going to be on the job,
Speaker 2: you know, Bush, he needs his soup brush and.
Speaker 1: You can you literally threw away his sanity.
Speaker 2: Nice good work. The ending is that I introduced friends
Speaker 2: to my parents, right, mom? Have you met my friends?
Speaker 2: These are my friends? Friends? Man like they get the
Speaker 2: benefit of knowing a rich guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, nothing with your parents. There's no actual way. Nope,
Speaker 1: still not. Why were you in jail?
Speaker 2: No, just gets adopted a job, going to get out
Speaker 2: of jail free card friends? Yeah? Yeah, but I won
Speaker 2: the basketball game that recheated again.
Speaker 1: I still don't know who I'm supposed to root for.
Speaker 3: Christine admits she's going to miss him so much, and
Speaker 3: they kiss again, this time an open mouth kiss, and
Speaker 3: it's time for her to leave camp now alone. Freddy
Speaker 3: looks around. Wow, what an adventure this has been. He
Speaker 3: finds that gold coin he has in his pocket. Yep,
Speaker 3: the one he stole from a poor old widow who
Speaker 3: probably thinks about it all the time and also thinks
Speaker 3: it helped the homeless. He doesn't care to care about that,
Speaker 3: and he flips it in the air. This thing may
Speaker 3: have brought luck, after all, he thinks to himself, even
Speaker 3: though once again he stole it from a widow who
Speaker 3: held onto it for years after her beloved husband died.
Speaker 2: So and he breaks the fourth wall. Breaks the fourth wall.
Speaker 3: It's for the first time he stares directly into the
Speaker 3: camera to give us a little eyebrow raise and then
Speaker 3: freeze frame.
Speaker 2: End of movie. I think if we've learned anything, it's
Speaker 2: the Boy Means World has stood the test of time
Speaker 2: for good reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of writing, directing, acting, and being done
Speaker 2: in the nineties at levels a little less. You know.
Speaker 2: You know what this makes me think is that anytime
Speaker 2: we've ever had a plot point issue with a Boy
Speaker 2: Meets World episode, it's always something so insignificant. Yeah, insignificant.
Speaker 2: It is also, I mean, it is also a sitcom,
Speaker 2: so you have a little bit of the like sure
Speaker 2: reality like sort of being yanked, whereas with the movie
Speaker 2: you have to you have to think these things through,
Speaker 2: you have to have the logic. And this is a
Speaker 2: perfect example.
Speaker 1: Though I have to say, of everyone's like the writers
Speaker 1: are on strike, is it really that important? Is that
Speaker 1: this is one of the reasons to show how important
Speaker 1: writing is. You need the writers to do stuff, because
Speaker 1: this just needed to be rewritten.
Speaker 2: It just it didn't lot parts of it was just
Speaker 2: didn't make any sense. It was like what I positive
Speaker 2: what happened is they probably had a version of the
Speaker 2: script and then just they decided to like offer it
Speaker 2: to two actors and they had to keep you know,
Speaker 2: they probably went back to the writer and said both
Speaker 2: these parts have to be equal. You can't end, yeah,
Speaker 2: and they ended up cramming way too many different plots
Speaker 2: into you know, it's like, oh, we gotta have a
Speaker 2: dance to accommodate the fact that Jason could sing a dance.
Speaker 2: We got to have a basketball game because we have
Speaker 2: to have a big and it's like just way too
Speaker 2: much going on. I have to.
Speaker 1: Say you, you might not have liked your performance, and
Speaker 1: we're always the most critical of ourselves, but.
Speaker 2: None of the acting was terrible. No, especially for when it.
Speaker 1: Was It's exactly nineties acting, and it was good nineties
Speaker 1: kids acting like that.
Speaker 2: It was not bad. And I think if you're a
Speaker 2: kid and you're a teenager, an eleven year old or
Speaker 2: whatever watching this movie on you know, a Thursday night
Speaker 2: or whenever I heard, it has all the ingredients like
Speaker 2: it has you want, and like, I think people have
Speaker 2: nostalgia for this movie, like they don't really remember the storyline.
Speaker 2: They just remember like, oh, that's right, that guy uses
Speaker 2: a computer to hack this.
Speaker 1: Big basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of it is.
Speaker 1: It's a kind of fun. I mean when you pick
Speaker 1: it apart, Yes, the story makes no sense.
Speaker 2: You don't know who to who to root for. Some
Speaker 2: of the people are kind.
Speaker 1: Of awful, but the acting great, you know, the rompy
Speaker 1: basketball get great.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is. You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's a camp hijinks movie. So it was just a
Speaker 2: weird one.
Speaker 3: Well, next week, one of our favorite guests and very
Speaker 3: good sport Natanya Ross, will return to watch Munchie strikes.
Speaker 2: Back with all of us.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that writer.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being such a good sport. No, definitely I.
Speaker 1: Was.
Speaker 2: It was actually a good revisit. Great. I feel better
Speaker 2: about the experience about the movie I don't really had.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know if I ever really had
Speaker 2: feelings about the movie, but I definitely feel better, like
Speaker 2: I have some good memories from this time in my life.
Speaker 2: So it's good to think back and you know, yeah, good.
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