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Speaker 1: Welcome back, all the smoke. This is season five or six?

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Speaker 1: This is new six?

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Speaker 2: Hold up, man, we made it to six?

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Speaker 1: Is it six and a half? Five and a half.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: We look like Ashton doing that ship six an shut

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Speaker 1: you mother. But we're here, man, we're back with a

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Speaker 1: new season. I'm not sure what season it is, but

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Speaker 1: we're here. And man, we got someone that I was.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was happy to make this this happen. It almost

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Speaker 1: didn't happen because we had some false information, but we

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Speaker 1: made it happen. We're here Jack being a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: We ran into Bro in the gym this morning. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now we're working together. But man, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Melvin Greg appreciating new pre chuting. So social media superstar

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Speaker 1: turn actor. You kind of got your start on Vine

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Speaker 1: and Snowfall, American Vandal. You're on your newest roll the paper.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got a lot of great shit going on.

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Speaker 1: Talking to us about out your journey and what.

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Speaker 3: It's been like.

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Speaker 1: Start with Vine, I guess yeah, we'll get into all

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Speaker 1: before all that, but Vine kind of put you on

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Speaker 1: the map and your career took off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah for sure. So I moved to later

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Speaker 4: act and it was tough.

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Speaker 2: How were you?

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Speaker 4: I was twenty two, twenty two, I think probably in

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Speaker 4: twenty eleven and just doing short films, student films, low

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Speaker 4: budgetself whatever I could. And then I saw Vine as

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to build an audience. And I knew if

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Speaker 4: I could build an audience, I'd be of more value

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Speaker 4: to a production, so I get more opportunities and maybe

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Speaker 4: I can get an agency or whatnot. So I saw

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Speaker 4: Vine as a way of doing that.

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Speaker 1: So and you blew your vine following up right, you

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Speaker 1: got like seven million people on vine.

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Speaker 4: YEA too bad they deleted the app and they all gone.

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Speaker 4: I still run it to over the streets, so it's love.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so I was like, I got to figure

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Speaker 4: out a way to do this. And the cool thing

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Speaker 4: about vine is when it first started you can only

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Speaker 4: shoot and edit in the app like you could go

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Speaker 4: edit later upload it. You got to shoot a clip,

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Speaker 4: then stop, and then shoot another clip and stop, and

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Speaker 4: then you mess up, you got to start all over again.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, it's a limited playing field. So that

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Speaker 4: that means people that got resources aren't at an advantage

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Speaker 4: because I have no resources. Is an even playing field.

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Speaker 4: The only difference is creativity and efficiency, which I feel

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Speaker 4: like I got. So I looked at what everybody was

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Speaker 4: doing that was popping up there, and I kind of

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Speaker 4: taught myself comedy from like reverse engineering what worked and

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Speaker 4: what went viral. Okay, this one viral for this reason,

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Speaker 4: this went viral for that reason. Oh it's small formulas.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I just implemented my tape or my

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Speaker 4: marketing standpoint. I was like, I'm a storyboard out like

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Speaker 4: forty ideas, so I'm not going to run out, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. If I go viral, I'm high

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Speaker 4: traction and keep moving. And I shot most of them.

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Speaker 4: I was like, before I post the one that I

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Speaker 4: so they can get traction. Because I need audience retention.

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Speaker 4: I need to to stay there and building. So just

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Speaker 4: approaching it every step like that, being very intentional, I

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Speaker 4: was able to just build a following that just kind

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Speaker 4: I just fell in love with creating and comedy and

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Speaker 4: So it was definitely a blessing.

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Speaker 1: What's the balance of people knowing you from social media

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Speaker 1: and TV? Because I remember when me and Jack first

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Speaker 1: got started in this and we went to All Stars Chicago. Yep,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't about nothing we did in our careers. It

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Speaker 1: was about all the smoke, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that was dope, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So what is kind of the balance of people that

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Speaker 4: Now it's even man's And it's interesting because I run

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Speaker 1: Been doing all just some of the biggest shows on TV?

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Speaker 2: But go ahead, like I'd be.

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Speaker 4: Acting, oh that's what's up. Well, I ain't you since Vine.

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Speaker 4: Even when this new show the Paper came out, it

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Speaker 4: I learned to just not be offended by none of it,

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Speaker 4: like shind you know me from something. I'm happy, I'm

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like the industry has changed compared to

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Speaker 1: in regards to acting.

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Speaker 4: For sure, it changed that The landscape is completely different

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Speaker 4: one because of streaming, so content is consumed differently. So

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Speaker 4: that mean the buyers they approach it differently with what

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Speaker 4: and as far as and then also to social media

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Speaker 4: so different that their attention spans are shortened now, so

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Speaker 4: the way that content is crafted is different. A lot

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Speaker 4: of times, especially on the streamer, they gotta hook you

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Speaker 4: if you go sit in the theater, you stuck in there,

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Speaker 4: so you got time for a slow burn. But with uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, with streaming and just a short attention span,

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Speaker 4: the way content is crafted is different. The way they

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Speaker 4: cast content is different because a lot of times they

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Speaker 4: little for builty in marketing, so they get somebody that

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Speaker 4: the stars and the story. They like to have content

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Speaker 4: that's easily digestible, seeing that you could do a lot

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Speaker 4: industry is completely different. What is ever changing? Is ever changed?

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Speaker 1: Your new role on the Paper, which is a spin

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Speaker 1: off of the Office. I remember you telling me about

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Speaker 1: this before it actually check it out? Yeah, Jack's checked

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Speaker 1: it out already. What is that like that? Because that's

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Speaker 1: tapping into you just in your own words, you kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it'll be on NBC in a couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks November eleven, so you know NBC too. But it's

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Speaker 4: definitely a different audience. But I think as a different audience.

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Speaker 4: But you know, you want to reach as many people

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Speaker 4: like our perspective and our voice should resonate through all audiences,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? We should introduce ourselves to

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Speaker 4: all different type of people, and you might be you

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Speaker 4: might change somebody's perception of a type that they might

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Speaker 4: have seen you as before by giving them another version

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Speaker 4: of thattility. Showing versatility is just introducing perspective and coaching

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Speaker 4: the people that might not have seen it in that way.

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Speaker 4: So I kind of take pride into doing a show

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Speaker 4: like The Office. If you look at the original, it

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Speaker 4: black man, be vulnerable, be transparent, be offbeat, be a

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Speaker 4: to be honest and authentic. You know, it's something I'm

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Speaker 4: grateful to be able.

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Speaker 1: What's your character's name and kind of what your storyline

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Speaker 4: So his name is Detrick, he said off the bat,

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Speaker 4: like Detric. He sells ads for the paper, and as

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Speaker 4: the show starts, a new editor in chief comes in,

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Speaker 4: and you know, new newspapers is like dying out. Don't

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Speaker 4: nobody don't nobody like buy newspapers. So it's a dying thing,

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Speaker 4: and his new editor in chief comes in and he

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Speaker 4: they don't have budget for reporters, so it's like, anybody

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Speaker 4: And it's just like the Bad News Bears of journalism

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Speaker 4: and my character he's in love with this girl that

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Speaker 4: But he offbeat, He awkward, He kind of like a

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Speaker 4: people pleaser. He's doing too much, you know, like nice

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he that.

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Speaker 4: So it is definitely different from a few of the

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Speaker 4: other things that I've done. But it's fun, man, It's

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Speaker 4: fun to lead to lean into being awkward and offbeat,

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Speaker 4: because I feel like a lot of times we learn

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Speaker 4: but with that character, I can just be I could

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Speaker 4: and it's kind of free and in a sense it's one.

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Speaker 5: I think it's the one thing with dude. You're trying

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Speaker 4: Oh when when he's trying to h he's trying to fight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you do, and you're trying to the whole thing

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Speaker 4: To Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's fun man. The

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Speaker 4: stakes are a lot lower and like a lot of

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Speaker 4: the other shows I did, it's but it's just like

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Speaker 1: Of people compare and can trast your social media fame

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Speaker 4: It's definitely interesting. It's like social media famous popularity. They

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Speaker 4: versus like TV. Film is more of a reserve that

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Speaker 4: like they know you as much. I like the users

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Speaker 4: as an example, when I said, because I've seen it firsthand,

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Speaker 4: King Batch, one of the he was he had like

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Speaker 4: he had got the Guinness World Record for the most

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Speaker 4: followers on find he had like forty million, like crazy numbers, right,

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Speaker 4: I'd be with Batch. We watched somewhere and the kids

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Speaker 4: And then I was on the set of Creed Too

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Speaker 4: We went to a Sixers game and when he when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my streams weren't.

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Speaker 1: He landscaped his whole crib. I've seen it. I've seen it,

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Speaker 1: I could see me star edit.

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Speaker 4: I set on my five star edit right, So I

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Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, it ain't real. I got a job now, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So we were talking about this earlier.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I actually felt like, you know, I could have

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, come up there and whole

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Speaker 1: Whichever it's the same ship. He said to West's day

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: But I really could have been you know, yeah, your brother.

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Speaker 5: I could have pulled up and had your back. You

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. But you know, if you ever, I'm pretty

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Speaker 5: I think, no gas they laughing.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious.

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Speaker 1: I think you could too, give him a little taste

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Speaker 2: Let see what I mean. But I got put on

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Speaker 5: Okay, you think I'm about to mess up all I

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Speaker 4: Talk drive motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, one of the dopest rolls on Snowfall, man Boy.

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Speaker 5: You just said, tell us how you found out about

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Speaker 4: I got the audition and it was like come in

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Speaker 4: I used to watch it, but I'm like, I appreciate it,

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Speaker 5: Two questions, what does it take to get into the

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So appreciate it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, dope boy fresh.

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Speaker 4: I look like a lame, you ain't gonna believe nothing

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00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 4: I sael. So it's like if you believe if what

439
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 4: somebody says just it's just said a lot about them,

440
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 4: you know what? I mean, you sell a story before

441
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 4: before you even tell it about what you're wearing. So

442
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 4: I was big on the wardrobe, So yeah, I had

443
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 4: and put on that. And as far as getting into

444
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 4: the character, it's just it was a shift for perspective

445
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 4: and stakes for me. So every role I do is

446
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: gonna be a version of me at some point in

447
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 4: my life with different circumstances, you know what I mean. So, man,

448
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 4: boy was it was kind of like a like that

449
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 4: fairy tale if any kid that grew up in the

450
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 4: hood because of what's around you, you kind of got

451
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 4: some type of ambitions to be like I could be that,

452
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: especially the movies I watch growing up. It's only watched

453
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 4: gangster movies. Like my favorite movie was Juice. I'm watching

454
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 4: that when I'm like eight or not, you know what

455
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 4: I mean, And I'm looking up to Bishop so Is

456
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 4: and then just being you said, what what you say?

457
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 4: You didn get the juice to you kill man see,

458
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 4: and I ain't look at righty man. It's like I

459
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: want to be here. I'm like, no, I want to

460
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 4: be But I wouldn't have missed when I'm chasing que

461
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 4: through the through the park. This nigga su I was terrible,

462
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 4: but yeah, and then just kind of being being around

463
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 4: there growing up, I was very observant. I'm like, these

464
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 4: niggas moving like this, they should move like that. If

465
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: I was to do this, I wouldn't get caught. And

466
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 4: it's like a delusional confidence. But at the same time,

467
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 4: I knew, like they still here. This ain't this is

468
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: a dead end, Like I ain't about to do that.

469
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 4: Like and the last thing I ever wanted to be paranoid,

470
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 4: So I never chose that life in a way, but

471
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: in my mind, I'm like I could do it, and

472
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 4: I would really be like him, Like that's just my mindset,

473
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 4: so be able to do snowfall. I'm like, this is

474
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 4: my opportunity to really do that and to move how

475
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 4: I feel like I would move, and yeah, just to

476
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 4: change the ship for perspective, it becomes fun at that point. Yeah,

477
00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 4: Like dirt on little Dirty Corny.

478
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: Knew you that.

479
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 4: So it's just like his perspected like, come on, man,

480
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: I really know who you are, you a little bit,

481
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 4: what we're doing, how we're moving.

482
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: So h yeah, your girls crack head talking to everybody

483
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: off like.

484
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 4: So the only thing you got to do at that

485
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 4: point is just figure out the dialect and it's just

486
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 4: living that space and the mannerhisms because l a different

487
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 4: and fels.

488
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

489
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 4: I think it got I think the dialect got better

490
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 4: throughout and the mannerisms came kind of easy because I

491
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 4: didn't watch enough movies. I didn't watch minutes. And it's

492
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 4: it's such a it's a it's a period piece, so

493
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: it's eighties, so it's it's obvious, it's how you standard,

494
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 4: it's how you walk. It's kind of common crue in

495
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: a sense. But period that from Grand like the Grand

496
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 4: Theft final characters, and I play that game forever, so

497
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 4: a lot of it's still kind of you know ingrained,

498
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 4: but I definitely modeled a lot of my dialect off

499
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 4: of what Franklin was doing. Yeah, and then also I'm

500
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 4: from the South, and a lot of people in LA

501
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: in the eighties they families migrated up from the South.

502
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: So it still got that twin to it. If you

503
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: listen to Snoop, he got a lot of that twin.

504
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: Yep, Older's Snoop's birthday, by the way, Happy birthday.

505
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: Oh Ship, happy birthday. He came. He came to set

506
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 4: a couple of times, did he Yeah.

507
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, so just say outside and hanging out with the

508
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 5: crew outside being on camera, do Man Boy come out?

509
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's a part of me. But at

510
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 4: the same time, state saint is high. I ain't in

511
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 4: the ain't in the drug game where somebody trying to

512
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 4: kill me over the back. And also I'm a lot

513
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 4: older than what Man Boy is too, So I definitely

514
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 4: had dumb moments when I was a kid. When I

515
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: was younger, you know what I mean, thinking you bulletproof,

516
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: but you know at my age, no.

517
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 5: Only like the character you came around the homers of

518
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 5: y'all joking, do you ever going to Man Boy character?

519
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: Just bullshit with the homies?

520
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 4: What like the dialect is nah own I touch it.

521
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: I was about saying, because.

522
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, niggas are probably climbing this nigga here. Who do

523
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: you think you will? Nigga really thinks you the characters like, yeah,

524
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna get that. Ain't even get niggas ammunition.

525
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: Out of here.

526
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: Was like working with DeAndre Bods the West Coast Legends.

527
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, nah, man Deandres Bro. He's such a a genuine

528
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 4: guy and such a nice dude man like he gives

529
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 4: nothing but love you know what I mean, from top

530
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: to bottom. He's just like just a humble, grounded and

531
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 4: for you know, for DeAndre Bonds Stacey to be like,

532
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 4: come on, y'all really killing it, man, y'all really doing it?

533
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 4: Like I love is she what y'all doing? And he

534
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: really West Coast. So it's just like he was right there. Yeah,

535
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: like that his bag he stayed. He stay in it

536
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: like it's him. It's a part of who he is.

537
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 4: And even before he got the roll, I remember John

538
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 4: Singles j John Singleton telling me he was like, he

539
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: was like, man, I got these I got this idea

540
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: for these couple of episodes coming up. Y'all gonna be

541
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: in the jungles, and I want DeAndre Bonds to be.

542
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 4: He gonna be the guy that you're gonna be going

543
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 4: head to head with. Man, I know he was like,

544
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 4: right now people know him as Stacy, but when when

545
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: it's over with, they gonna know him at Scully. I

546
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: was all right, and yeah, that that was That was it.

547
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: You spoke to the greatness of John Singleton, talk to

548
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: us just about what that was like, what you soaked up,

549
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: what you saw? How cool was he was? He tough

550
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: on people. What was his aura and his energy about

551
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: because he's such a such a leg obviously rested things,

552
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: but what was he like working with?

553
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

554
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: John was John was cool man. He was chill, was

555
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: laid back. He made you feel comfortable. You ain't feel

556
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: like intimidated to be around him because he just felt

557
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: like your uncle. And I always say, I think he

558
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: played the biggest part of not the part of me

559
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: getting the role because no offense to nobody, but everybody

560
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 4: outside of John was white, right, and a lot of

561
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: times white people defict depiction of a of a of

562
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: a gangster look a certain way, and I don't look

563
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: that way. So had John not been in the room

564
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: and saw what I was doing and being able to

565
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 4: understand what I'm doing and speaking the language that I'm speaking,

566
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 4: as far as just like everything about what I wanted

567
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 4: to do with a character, I don't think I would

568
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 4: have booked it because as I'm reading the room, they

569
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: like they rocking with a little bit. But to know

570
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 4: that guy from somebody was like, you have to be intimidating,

571
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: you have to you know that was from somebody outside

572
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: of John. I'm like, man, I can't do it like that.

573
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 4: Wouldn't make I wouldn't be that. If I was that,

574
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: so then it's gonna be it's not believable, like you trying.

575
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 4: And that's the thing to a lot of people when

576
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: you playing a gangst the character or whatever it is,

577
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: or you're trying to be intimidating, you don't have to

578
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: try to be intimidating. Like if people know what you bought,

579
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: you ain't gotta do much. You ain't going through time,

580
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 4: like at least from my experiences, So John wouldn't been

581
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 4: in the room, I wouldn't have got cash. I know

582
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: it for a fact. And how he took me up

583
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: under his wing when I even on the show my

584
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 4: first day, he'd be like, hey, look this is how

585
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 4: I see it going where you're going, like just kind

586
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: of giving me pointers and how he see the show,

587
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: and even past that, just telling me he really believed

588
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: in me. He was like, man, this is going to

589
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: change a lot of stuff for you. He was like,

590
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 4: I want to make sure you with the right people.

591
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: Introduce me to its publicist. He was like, man, I

592
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 4: got this movie I'm working on. I think you'll be great.

593
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: He just really took me up on his wing and

594
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: gave me the confidence to feel like I'm where I

595
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: was supposed to be. Is not by mistake, because this

596
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: guy who's broken so many stars and you know, introduced

597
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 4: so many legends into, you know, to the world with

598
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 4: this track record that he has, says he sees something

599
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: in me. So I have to lean into it and

600
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: really be confident in this space because I mean, he

601
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: just gave me the you know, he gave me the

602
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: green like he validated.

603
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest yup. So we lost him.

604
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: Where was your mind that What was the state of

605
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: the show after that? And how did you guys find

606
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: the courage and the strength to move on?

607
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 4: Man? It was I remember it was at the table

608
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 4: when we heard what happened, and he was you know,

609
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 4: he was still he hadn't pulled through yet, but he

610
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 4: was still. He was still with us, and the energy

611
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: was just it was low, and the show runner was like,

612
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: we just got it. We got to go through this

613
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: and do it for John, so you know, we do

614
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 4: what we need to do. And uh, I wasn't working

615
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: when I when I heard he died, So I don't

616
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: know how the energy was on the set because the

617
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 4: way my role was I popping once or once every

618
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 4: other week or something like. I wasn't there every day.

619
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: So when he died, I wasn't. I wasn't on set

620
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: to see that energy. But it definitely shifted. It shifted

621
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: through all because he won't there, like you know, our

622
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: big brother won't there with us to walk us through

623
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 4: it all. He had put together a core of people

624
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: that we could still count on and lean on in

625
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: regards to a lot of stuff. You know, Dug she

626
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: was there, he was consult producer, his cousin Smokey. John

627
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: put his cousin on the show Smoky Smoky Hat there

628
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: like twenty thirty years or something, so he knew the

629
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: he knew the culture or what John wanted to do.

630
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: So we still had them there. But it was definitely

631
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: a whole and and the whole thing man. And I

632
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: feel like the story kind of shifted to after he died. Yeah,

633
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: it wasn't his grounded and authenticity. It was still great,

634
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: but it's things that like if you know the code,

635
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: you know the streets, you like, this wouldn't be happening

636
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: like what you know. It kind of it kind of

637
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: drifted more to into just being entertaining rather than being

638
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: a story of this.

639
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 2: Area neighborhood to make it the Africa.

640
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeahn Macully, No, he's not in Africa. He yeah, your

641
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: music yeah yeah, but uh yeah, Scully ain't gonna be

642
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: fighting for Leon after he killed.

643
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: His daughter all that.

644
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, uh, it's TV man, and a

645
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: lot of times you you could, you could start, you

646
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: could try to stay true to what it is and

647
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: the people do know it. But when it comes to

648
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: money and broad appeal and commercializing the show, sometimes you

649
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: got to You got to court another audience and keep it,

650
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: keep it exciting.

651
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: Working with how you say his first name, Dasmind one

652
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: of the biggest young actors today, and it blew me

653
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: away when I found out that he was British.

654
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Speaker 3: And then you start finding.

655
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Speaker 1: Out all these other actors that are British and and

656
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: and the way they'll be able to switch that accent.

657
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Speaker 1: Did you take anything from that as trying to add

658
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Speaker 1: it to you? Obviously your style in Man Boy and

659
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: being able to accent and the manners we spoke on

660
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Speaker 1: a little bit before.

661
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Speaker 4: I mean, I based a lot of Man Boy's dialect

662
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: on Franklin, but also my my little twist on it

663
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: as well, but when it comes to him being British,

664
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Speaker 4: I think it affected his perspective and how he approached

665
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 4: the character in a way, but that's not in my version.

666
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: I think that's where man Boy differs from him. But

667
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: I think it was brilliant what he did. If you

668
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: look at Franklin, Franklin not to typical la game banger,

669
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: la drug dealer. He don't feel like that. He more calculated,

670
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: more observed. He more suave, like you know, he just

671
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: working khakis with the belt. He ain't flash, he got

672
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: his watch on airplanes. He ain't loud, He's like. It

673
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: was Damnson's interpretation of a gangster, and it might be

674
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: based off of his interpretation because he's had a broader

675
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: scope than somebody from the neighborhood in regards to film

676
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: and craft in the character. But I think it's brilliant

677
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: because you can put Franklin Saint in pretty much any

678
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: movie and he don't feel out of place. You can't

679
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: take old Doll for minutes and put him in any movie.

680
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: He's too specific. So brilliant, brilliant choices made by Damnson.

681
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: It would have been a completely different showing character had

682
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: anyone else done it. So yeah, I guess from that,

683
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: I'm very meticulous with my characters and why do the

684
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: things I do and how it can play into the

685
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: things I want to do past that.

686
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: Show reinventing yourself, you know, from vying to acting. Yeah,

687
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: and now you know having a big role, like a

688
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: role a man boy and doing what you're doing.

689
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 2: Now, what does it take to reinvent yourself?

690
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: I don't really look at it as reinventing. I look

691
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: like I feel like I'm on a different side of

692
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: myself growth, growth, and yeah, like we all got different

693
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: versions of ourselves. Who you are with your granny versus

694
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: the woman you love versus the one you might just

695
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: be kicking it with versus your homies. Like, it's different

696
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: versions of yourself. It's different chapters of your life. And

697
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: I like to try to pour from these chapters and

698
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: versions to figure out who the character is. So it's

699
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: very introducing reintroducing myself to people based on where I'm

700
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: at now. If it's for a character, is whatever the

701
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: character is. But for me as a person, it's mainly growth.

702
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: Like Matt said, like I'm married and I got kids,

703
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: so my focus and perspective is completely different than what

704
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: it was five ten years ago. So what I want

705
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: to promote and what I want to sell is completely

706
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: different than what I would have been selling ten years

707
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: ago in my twenties. I want to sell that I'm

708
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: that guy, I'm him. I can get what I want,

709
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: but you know, it's just different versus now. I want

710
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: to sell an idea what life can look like if

711
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: you do things. I don't want to say the right way, Yeah,

712
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: like this is a path you could go and it

713
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: could be happy, you know what I mean? And not

714
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 4: to shade anything else, But I grew up looking I

715
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 4: never thought i'd be married because the people I grew

716
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: up around, and my daddy got like three families. It's

717
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: like the man that got every woman that he wont

718
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: and got all the money. That's that's what I looked

719
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: at as like success. I should be like, I don't

720
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: want to big backyard and the picket fins. I want

721
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: a black card and the passport full of stamps. But

722
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: you know, through growth and just assessing life and seeing examples,

723
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: I'm like that that's probably not the path for me.

724
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: That ain't where I'm gonna find my happiness. At priority

725
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: change its life experiences man like, you know, doing it

726
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: then waking up being like, bro, this ain't it like

727
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: what I heard?

728
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: It was.

729
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: Behind all of it, the ego is like, it's really

730
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: making me happy. So finding something that truly made me happy,

731
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: I don't mind promoting that because I feel like it's

732
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: it'll equate the happiness for most people if you do

733
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 4: it for the right reason.

734
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Right at this moment. What are you most proud of

735
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: in your career or just period?

736
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: Period?

737
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: Is my family?

738
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: No question?

739
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, no question at all. That's proority over business. Business

740
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: is what I do, Like a falling a husband is

741
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: who I am. I would much rather have a strong

742
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: relationship with my wife and my kids than I have

743
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: a strong career. I didn't.

744
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: I don't read.

745
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: I don't read tales about you know, people to make

746
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: it to the top and then you know die from

747
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: sceptionans of abuse or you know, they going through it

748
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: like mentally nobody there nobody there for them. And it's

749
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: like all them people that showed up at the box

750
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: office don't care. They're just wondering when your next when

751
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: your next film is proper, and then you know, the

752
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: snap of a finger, it could be all over now.

753
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: They on somebody else. So it's just like I don't

754
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: put my attention and focus solely into my career. I'm

755
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: never gonna compromise my family for my career. So that's

756
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: that's probably.

757
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: What's your advice to a young content creator that's trying

758
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: to come up in these social media streets.

759
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: Be intentional, use the leverage you got while you got it, uh,

760
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: but also be yourself because if you chase, if you

761
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: chase trends, you're gonna be chasing fether and you're gonna

762
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: really be a slave towards popping and how you how

763
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: you won't follow us and you following what's happening? You

764
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean? You gotta you gotta lead and

765
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: do something your own way because if you copy in

766
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: somebody else, you always gonna come second to them or

767
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: third or fourth depending on when you see it when

768
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: versus doing your own things. So just be authentic. You

769
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: got to be consistent, and I just say, leverage your

770
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: position while you got it, because it's a it's a

771
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: long sprint. It ain't like you get viral one time

772
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 4: and you go on forever. You gotta go viral out,

773
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: the viral after viral after viral for years. Like if

774
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: you look at drew Sky, drew Ski the guy he

775
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: number one, but think about how many viral clips drew

776
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: Sky didn ad. You gotta keep going because that one

777
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 4: is gonna be old in a week, and they gonna

778
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: want another one, and they gonna want another one, and

779
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: they gonna want another one. So if you could keep

780
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: up with that pace, great, If you're don't plan to

781
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: keep up for forever, leverage the position that you're in

782
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 4: while you win it. Be smart about what you're doing,

783
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: if that's putting money up for the days that you

784
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: don't want to do it no more, or leveraging your

785
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 4: position to segue into something else. I just say, keep

786
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 4: keep the future in sight. Don't just get caught up

787
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: in it's here now, because it might leave and then

788
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 4: you might be out of love.

789
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: So you got a nine to five in your contract, curator,

790
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 5: how do you get what's the moment where you get

791
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 5: to the point where you go full time and contact?

792
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Great?

793
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: When you're making enough money to.

794
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: Quit, simple, yeah.

795
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: Don't just quit and be broke. You can't focus on content,

796
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you can't focus on content when you're hungry

797
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 4: and you ain't got no place to stay in. You

798
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Now you're in the middle of

799
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: the day trying to shoot videos, your girl mad at

800
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 4: you because you know, the car broke down and trying

801
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 4: to shoot. Now, you gotta be in a place where

802
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 4: you comfortable and content. So make sure you got some

803
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: type of financial security or you got incomes, some incomes

804
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: coming in. But I will say, you're gonna have to

805
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: quit that job sooner or later because you ain't gonna

806
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: be able to compete with people.

807
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: That day full time.

808
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how That's how I look at

809
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: social media. When I quit social media, social media was

810
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: my nine to five, and well it was my nine

811
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: to nine because it don't stop. But I was like,

812
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: if I want to stop this and go into traditional space,

813
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: I got to make sure I'm in a financial space

814
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: where I can do that, because acting you don't, it'd

815
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: be a wild before you make money if you ever do.

816
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: I was getting like, man, I was probably getting like

817
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 4: five five episode for Snowfall, and it's a great show,

818
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 4: but five thousand ain't none in La and.

819
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 5: The people that is best, So reaching I know that

820
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: five thousand worth five thousand.

821
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: Your ages get ten, your managers get ten, your lawyers

822
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: get fired, so that's twenty five percent. Government get another thirty.

823
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: So that's that's what fifty.

824
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: Five percent was working for free.

825
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: I'm working for free. So now I'm working with like

826
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: my mind might be all with twenty two hundred episode

827
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: that ain't you know? That ain't great money, you know

828
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: what I mean? So make sure you're in a financial

829
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: position where you can make the right creative choices, because

830
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: if I were, say some money, and I wasn't in

831
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: a good creative if I wasn't in a good financial place,

832
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been able to do no fall because

833
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 4: you lose money.

834
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so you didn't renegotiate that role as you got.

835
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 4: I mean, you got two seasons and it's pretty much

836
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: taken to leave it like I was a guest star.

837
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: Ain't got no leverage to come in and you because

838
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: they're just right somebody else, you know what I mean.

839
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: So it's like, this is what we got for you

840
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: could take it to leave it. But my mental, yeah,

841
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: my mentality is I got a chance to showcase what

842
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 4: I could do to the world in this place. So

843
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 4: rather than look at it as they give me twenty

844
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: two hundred episode. How much money are they putting into

845
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 4: marketing the show? How much money they put into making

846
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 4: this show, because that's how much money they put into

847
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: presenting me to the world on a high quality program.

848
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: So perspective based on creative choices and not really financial ones,

849
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: because the financial was taken care of before I hopped

850
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: in that arena.

851
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 5: You don't have to say the number, but what was

852
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: the first project you had where the person when you

853
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: look there like, okay, this makes sense, this makes sense.

854
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Was it an acting or more on volume?

855
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: Now? VIN was different because you do a cut, you

856
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 4: got a lot of streams when you post on every platform.

857
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: I remember when VIN first started, and I get back

858
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: to the next question, when VIN first started and money

859
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: started coming with an app called by Do it was

860
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: like a dating app, and draft Kings was new too,

861
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: and I remember I was like, man, I wish I

862
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 4: would in ll shated some equity with draft draft Kings

863
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: early on, but they gave you like four five hundred

864
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: dollars for a video, and in my mind, like I'm

865
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: from the hood, four five hundred for a seven second run.

866
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 4: I'm telling niggas from the critic like nigga, that's a

867
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: what so I'm doing that and then just kind of

868
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: being in a community with other creators. I remember Homi

869
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: day Storm. He been in social media, like he was

870
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: one of the biggest dudes on YouTube in like two

871
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: thousand and six. So when I met him, he had

872
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: million dollar homes and like he had he had been

873
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: eating and they Storm was like you can pay what

874
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: He was like, man, you're doing videos for a pair

875
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: of a pair of vans and a haircut, like, oh,

876
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: five hundred. He was like, now, shyn they hit you,

877
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: send him this and he sent me a drafted up

878
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: a little email and it's pretty much like I understand

879
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 4: we had a working relationship, but my rate based on

880
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: my new audience in my reach, it's twenty five thousand.

881
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 4: But considering we already have working relationship, I do the

882
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: next video for you for twenty but then after that

883
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: the rate, I'll go back to my initial rate and

884
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: from there it's gonna grow with my audience. I'm like, bro,

885
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: this nigga got to make me miss out on money.

886
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: Ain't no way. And they came back and it was

887
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: like it was like, nah, we can't do it. I'm

888
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: like fuck. He was like, nah, just hold tight there,

889
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: it's a bluff. They hit me back a week later.

890
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, we could do it. And

891
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: at that point in my perspective, it was like the

892
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: world opened up for me, Like, Yo, I'm getting paid

893
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 4: this much money to make videos.

894
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: So you went for five enough to cut you off

895
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: five hundred to twenty thousand.

896
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then for me at that point, I said,

897
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: well you're twenty and enough. Next time, like I need forty.

898
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: It's like we can't. We could if you could do thirty,

899
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: I need and it's like I'm running it up like

900
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: it was an interview with Tabitha Brown. She had a

901
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: manager who was a good fandomize and she was just

902
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: kind of getting into the reins of like money coming in.

903
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: He was like, I don't know what to charge. I said, bro,

904
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: say something ridiculous. They gonna come back and give you something.

905
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 4: And I think she had got like a I'm only

906
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: saying because she said it. She end up getting like

907
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: a hundred for something. It's like, oh, shoot for the moon.

908
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: All they can say is no. But then they got

909
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 4: to meet you somewhere and you value on yourself and

910
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: you come out the back and be like, give me

911
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 4: six hundred. They'm like, cool, we can do five fifty,

912
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: all right, you know, I mean it's just a negotiation.

913
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 4: So social media was it was different. It was different

914
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: type of money that was coming at the time. But

915
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 4: I didn't spend anything so going into traditional aim make

916
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: money for like two years. So I'm just running through

917
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 4: everything else I've made. But I still haven't got paid

918
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: for a film where it feels like it's worth it.

919
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 4: I'm still I still got to earn my strikes. Want

920
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: you to lead. You can kind of make demands once

921
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: you got a big audience, but when you supporting the lead,

922
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: they could easily say somebody else, So you just don't

923
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: have leverage to be like I want this. So in

924
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: the film, I still I still I'm still not in

925
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 4: that place. But as TV shows, I've done enough TV

926
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: shows whereas like each time the rate kind of go

927
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: up a little bit more. But you still just got

928
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: to look at what can I get out of this

929
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: and can I live off of this? So I'm definitely

930
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 4: in a position then where I can make a living,

931
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: but it still ain't in the spot where you know

932
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: I'm getting I'm getting new contract work. It's gonna be yeah, yeah,

933
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's a matter of it's a

934
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: matter of time. I never really get discouraged, and I

935
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: try not to make a decision. Earlier on was making

936
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: social media because my stuff used to be over the

937
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: top like Rashet or Ranchet like, and I was losing

938
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 4: brand news. I was losing opportunities to make money because

939
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: my brand wasn't safe. But I asked myself, I'm like,

940
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: do I want to make money now or do things

941
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 4: that resonate with people that I relate to and the

942
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 4: comedians I look up to. It was never safe comedy.

943
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: I'm not watching Bill Cosby, So it's like, do I

944
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: want to make the money? I was just about to say,

945
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: I don't know who. I don't even know what it

946
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: was on stage. Yeah, different conversations, but yeah, I was like,

947
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: I got to make creative choices in our financial choices.

948
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: So I kind of just carry that with me through

949
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: through my career.

950
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: Do you trust the platforms that pay you straight through

951
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: the platform like YouTube and.

952
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 4: All those trust them in what sense as far as.

953
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: The way they pay directly? Pay you directly?

954
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: You ain't got no leverage? Yeah, you ain't. You ain't

955
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: got no choice that's.

956
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: Get the money that way, don't get nothing.

957
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: I get it or I don't. So yeah, And that's

958
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: that's the thing with these platforms, man, they really they

959
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 4: own the audience and on everything I didn't see where

960
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: like Vin before Vine shut down, I didn't. I didn't

961
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: quick Vine when it got shut down, I quick Way

962
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: before it got shut down. My other thing is hop

963
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: off the ship when it's a float on way to

964
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: a sinking.

965
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: Yea.

966
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 4: So I jumped from Vine and went to Instagram early

967
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 4: because Instagram had more my audience people I wanted to

968
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: make content for versus Vine, but also Vin. They started

969
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: favoring a specific type of content because they wanted to

970
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: rebrand the app. And it was things like if you

971
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: got black in your comment, in your in your caption,

972
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: they're gonna they're gonna put you onto like nobody gonna

973
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: see it. It's a lot of keywords that if you

974
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: got it in your caption to kind of filter through

975
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: stuff they don't want to promote to promote. And then

976
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 4: they started promoting like acoustic guitar covers and stuff, and

977
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: it's like, well, I'm doing his work and y'all not

978
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: even let me hear the explore pages, y'all not because

979
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: y'all own the audience. Same thing with Facebook. I ran

980
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: up like five million followers on Facebook and in like

981
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: six seven months doing crazy numbers. At one point before

982
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: I quit, I was on one hundred million views a week

983
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: for like two months straight on original content. Then I

984
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: started posting like a month later. I try to post something,

985
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 4: I got like two comments in two weeks with five

986
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: million followers because they own the audience. Same thing with Instagram.

987
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: Instagram limited they reach. They said it was an algorithm,

988
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 4: but what it is is if a brand of a Nike,

989
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: let's just say, you got a big audience, right you, Instagram?

990
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: You influencer. Nike comes to the influencer like, yo, I

991
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: got thirty grand for you post. I'm gonna hit your audience.

992
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: You Nike, you like you, not Nike. You Instagram. You're like,

993
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: I own some of that money. I own him. I'm

994
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: gonna shut him down. Nike comes straight to me, I

995
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: can put you anywhere. Sponsor posts put you anywhere. So

996
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 4: then they start capping you know what I mean, capping

997
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: your reach, and they just call it a new algorithm

998
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: or whatever it is. So it's like they own the audience.

999
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 4: The platforms own everything. But that's just you know, that's

1000
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: just the game.

1001
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: Take it to leave it else take leave it.

1002
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 4: And if you want to reach you got to do

1003
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: everything on our platform. You gotta do live streams, you

1004
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta do pictures, you gotta stories, you post,

1005
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 4: you gotta carousels, you gotta hit everything. If you want

1006
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: us to put you out there, they really playing, big boy.

1007
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: You want to plan a game, that's what you need.

1008
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: I've been stuck on five million followers for five years.

1009
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: It's almost going into six years. I've been stuck on

1010
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: that and Shadow Band like a motherfucker boy.

1011
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm telling you ain't gonna hit that explore page Instagram.

1012
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, ain't nobody getting that big I'm.

1013
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: A million for since before the pandemic and I haven't.

1014
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: You're trying to tell me I haven't even I'm not

1015
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: at one point one yet.

1016
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: I can't live it.

1017
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: That's we've been saying. We've seen this a lot.

1018
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: Is I love this stuffcuse I used to do this

1019
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: ship too.

1020
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 5: Is it something that you love doing around your house,

1021
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: like guarding in the landscaping, or just something that you

1022
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 5: had to do as the man of the house.

1023
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: Nah, I grew a love for it. So the house

1024
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: I live in is a first house I've ever lived in.

1025
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: I've never lived in a house I grew up in.

1026
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: I grew up in you know, brick project buildings or

1027
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: apartment buildings, and even when I moved to LA, I

1028
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 4: stayed in apartments you know, LA ex spensive. So this

1029
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: is the first house I've lived in. So I've never

1030
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 4: been able to do like yard work and all of

1031
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: that stuff. I just cut grass as a teenager, but

1032
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: not to the extent of the things I do now.

1033
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: But it started. It started. I had a production studio

1034
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 4: I bought in twenty sixteen, when I still do on content.

1035
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna get this warehouse. I ain't

1036
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: about to pay nobody, Like, I'm not buying a production building,

1037
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: So I gotta build all. I gotta build offices and

1038
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 4: sets myself. And if I learned, I'm not limited by anything.

1039
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 4: So my sound got James Hatchett. He knew how to build,

1040
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: so he taught me. You know, he taught me to

1041
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: road to building. So we built out the offices, built

1042
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: out the sets and everything I needed. We just kind

1043
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: of built it. We need a jail sales scene. Cool,

1044
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: how do I build something that looked like jail bars?

1045
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 4: So figuring it like figuring it out there with creating content.

1046
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: And then when I got the house Pandemic hit. I

1047
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 4: bought the house in February Pandemic hiting like March mar

1048
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: And at this point it's like there's a lot of

1049
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: stuff I wanted to do around the house, but can't

1050
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 4: nobody come in? And am I just gonna.

1051
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: Sit here doing myself?

1052
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 4: And then doing myself? But also Instagram had an incentive

1053
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: at this time, whereas like if you do an Instagram series,

1054
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: they'll give you like a hundred racks to do, like

1055
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: twenty episodes on Instagram. IGTV was what they was promoting.

1056
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 4: I said, I need some of that pandemic hit. So

1057
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: my mindset was like if I put the money in

1058
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: my house, I could write all the money office production value,

1059
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: so I ain't gotta pay no taxes on it. So

1060
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: I said, oh, yeah, that's the plan. So from there

1061
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: I was just like, what's the project I could do

1062
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: around the house because I need another episode? What's the

1063
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: project I could do around the house. So it was

1064
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 4: the financial financial strategy in the sense to start doing

1065
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 4: home rental because I could write it all off his

1066
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: production value and put and put value into my house.

1067
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: So I just go to YouTube like how they do this.

1068
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: I watched like three or four videos in my cool.

1069
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: I think I got a good idea how to do it.

1070
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: Just go for it, and then over time it became

1071
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: very meditative.

1072
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: Therapeutic.

1073
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, therapeutic. That's what I was looking for. Is therapeutic.

1074
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 4: You ain't got your phone because your phone probably recording,

1075
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: and you just working one step at a time, break

1076
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 4: by brick and at the end you build something, you

1077
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: know what I mean. You go to strong foundation. It's

1078
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: gonna last, you know what I mean. So, yeah, I

1079
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: really enjoyed quick hitters.

1080
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us know one

1081
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: album on repeat.

1082
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: That's what I can think of is gn X GNX

1083
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: listening only listening to a lot of music. Man, I

1084
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 4: ride in silence. You see me in the gym with

1085
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 4: headphones on.

1086
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Listening to I always wanted to ask you that's when

1087
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: you said that.

1088
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I'm working on the series and I'm training dialects.

1089
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: So right now I'm listening to Bob Marley on RepA

1090
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: throughout just the way, not the music interviews. Yeah, and

1091
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 4: for a while a couple of months, I was listening

1092
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: to just Malcolm ic speeches, probably like.

1093
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: He always has the head phones on in the in

1094
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: the in the in the in the gym. The music

1095
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: is basically music or whatever that's crazy.

1096
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: And if you you will see me too. I be

1097
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: thinking people might think I'm crazy, but being an actor,

1098
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 4: they might just not think much of it. But if

1099
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: you see me, I'm talking. Yeah, I'm saying what I'm hearing'na.

1100
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Starting with you now, I will start fucking. But it's

1101
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: actually before we forget what are you working on? Moving forward?

1102
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: Because we're kind of at the quick hitter, but I

1103
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: want to give you a chance to what do you

1104
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: work right now?

1105
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: I forgot that won't quick at all, so we go

1106
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: back and do season two of The Paper and January.

1107
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 4: For the last six years I've been writing, I've been

1108
00:50:51,800 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 4: writing scripts, writing series and I got you, bro, catching

1109
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: what you're throwing.

1110
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 6: So he said, I'm catching what you uh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1111
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 6: you know it's funny.

1112
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 4: John Singleton had met Laurence Fishburn on the set of

1113
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 4: him doing some cowboys show. It's like Curtis the Cowboy

1114
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: and Pee Wee Herman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and John Singleton

1115
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 4: was young and he was like, I'm writing, I'm writing something.

1116
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: I got you, I got you, and that was that's

1117
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: that's gonna be.

1118
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, missed every shot take.

1119
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1120
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: I've been writing. So just continue to write and building

1121
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: out these worlds and characters. But also I'm doing a

1122
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: short series right now. I don't want to speak too

1123
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: much on it because they don't come out to what

1124
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: that's the luxury doing your own thing and don't come

1125
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: out tout one two. It ain't gonna come out, so

1126
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: I want people be like, what happened to that? But

1127
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: I'm confident and I'm really excited about it, and once

1128
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: it's done, I'm gonna be, you.

1129
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: Know, come back and talk about yeah yeah.

1130
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, but working in the traditional space industry, Hollywood stuff,

1131
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: but it also at the same time trying to build

1132
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 4: up my own stuff, you know what I mean? Ownership

1133
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: every King?

1134
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, what's one movie that everyone should.

1135
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: Watch one battle after another. It's a revolutionary type movie.

1136
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 4: A lot of people ain't gonna see it for whatever reason,

1137
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: but I think for the time that we're in right now, Yeah,

1138
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 4: it's important, but it's entertaining. It's still a fun movie.

1139
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: It's a great film, and I've seen a lot of

1140
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: bad movies this year, and that that made me think, like, Okay,

1141
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 4: cinema ain't really still there. Yeah, it's still there.

1142
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 3: Dream director to work with Ryan.

1143
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: Cooler, that's the homie cool Yeah.

1144
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who was your childhood crush.

1145
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: First one coin of mind was the Yellow Power Ranger,

1146
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 4: but it was two Dior for yellow ones. Her name

1147
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 4: was it was the black Girl. It wasn't the Asian one,

1148
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 4: no shade, but it was it was what was younger,

1149
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: that's my You see how young I was. It was

1150
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 4: a yellow one. It was the black girl. I don't

1151
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 4: even remember now. I still remember what she looked like though.

1152
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 4: When they show a little morphine head, Yeah I used

1153
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: to Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say something like that.

1154
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you can see somebody on our show, who

1155
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: would it be? But you have to help us get

1156
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 5: your answer on the show.

1157
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: This brother that I'm naming it is brilliant. One of

1158
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: the most brilliant minds I've ever met. And I don't

1159
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: think people know it. If they know him, they do.

1160
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 4: But Malcolm, as he played in Snowfall as Kevin.

1161
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: Yes, and then he played and.

1162
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: Then he played in uh and.

1163
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah Bro.

1164
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 4: He from here from uh Lou, he from the Jungle,

1165
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: so l a throughout. His uncle was like Tookie Williams like,

1166
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: but his his story and his light skinned dude.

1167
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah he played. He plays fifty brother. Bro.

1168
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: His mind is like it's kind of like rain Man.

1169
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: He knows so much about everything. And the way he

1170
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 4: can articulate himself. You know when you think you can't

1171
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 4: really find a way, bro, the way he can articulate.

1172
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: His thoughts put the words together.

1173
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: I feel like he sell himself short about being an actor.

1174
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, I feel like he he should be one

1175
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: of the leaders that we need as a community. Like

1176
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 4: his drainage is crazy, but yeah, I think it'll be

1177
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: an interesting conversation.

1178
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for your time.

1179
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: One more time ten where they can find the paper

1180
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: at on Peacock, Yes, sir, and coming.

1181
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 4: To NBC on NBC November eleven.

1182
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: Melvi Man, we appreciate you, bro CO two, he smiles.

1183
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: Us all the Spoke production G two but the DraftKings Network.

1184
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: We'll see y'all next week.