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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give credit to Loraina and part good evening everybody.

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Speaker 2: De Segur the guy beats one the Arizona Wildcats beat

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Speaker 2: and have them put together that intro? That was really good?

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Speaker 2: I know, really good.

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Speaker 3: That was all me and I just wanted I thought

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Speaker 2: Would like that when you called? Where the bosses like?

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Speaker 3: Who? Arnie? Arnie Arnie who? I told him? And I said,

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Speaker 3: if I'm gonna have to work. You gotta bring into Sager.

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Speaker 3: That's in my contract. I don't work unless the Sega works.

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Speaker 3: So and look at the segaz to work tonight, do well.

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Speaker 2: Unlike like you, Disagre didn't quit the shift for four

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Speaker 2: years ago to uh to claim to spend time with

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Speaker 2: his family, and you're probably pretty much doing the exact

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Speaker 2: same thing that you would have been doing anyway. But

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin is out tonight, a much deserved to get away.

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Speaker 2: Arnie span Her, who for so many years you heard

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Speaker 2: in this time slot.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Some say the show has improved greatly in.

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Speaker 3: The last year. I'm sure absolutely. Arnie is in. Arnie.

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Speaker 2: We got a busy day to day, including by the way,

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Speaker 2: your Arizona Wildcats dominant.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome. I mean I could only I started

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Speaker 3: thinking if we only beat USC and Mississippi State in

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Speaker 3: double overtime and yeah, but you know what, we'll get

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Speaker 3: to a bowl game. But that was an impressive victory.

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Speaker 3: Good victory to get on the road. And you know,

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Speaker 3: not too many teams can survive with a backup quarterback

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Speaker 3: and the backup running back. We looked awesome. I can't

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Speaker 3: wait till next year. To see if we turned the

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Speaker 3: corner get a new conference soon. So I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 2: In all seriousness, I thought of you, knowing that you

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Speaker 2: were working today and knowing that you know Jason and

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Speaker 2: I worhan during the wild USC Arizona game last week,

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Speaker 2: and so I was gonna poke fun at you for Arizona.

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Speaker 2: But they were awesome. But on the other side, the

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Speaker 2: team that survived last week USC not so much tonight,

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Speaker 2: AARTI spayed here, it was a crazy day at college football.

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Speaker 2: But for people just joining us, I know Marin and

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Speaker 2: VJ just talked about it. But the Notre Dame fighting

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Speaker 2: Irish put a butt whoopin on the USC Trojans a

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Speaker 2: week after USC barely survived against Arizona. I'll say it, Arnie,

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Speaker 2: so you don't have to. Arizona should have won that game.

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Speaker 2: USC survives today, Arnie. Notre Dame forty eight, USC twenty

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams three interceptions, part of five total turnovers for USC,

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Speaker 2: A total butt kicking that just.

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Speaker 3: Went final in South Bend. Arnie, all right, first thing

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Speaker 3: thinking that us he was gonna be able to keep

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Speaker 3: I thought that maybe the Irish who had offensive problems,

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Speaker 3: not the case here and we know that US he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have a top tier defense, but they just tore

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Speaker 3: him apart. Now turnovers Cable. Williams also fumbled a couple

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Speaker 3: three interceptions. You got to start wondering how good was

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Speaker 3: this USC team and how good was Caleb Williams. Did

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Speaker 3: he just go ahead and beat a bunch of early

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Speaker 3: think he's the number one quarterback that should be taking

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this. They had a

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Speaker 3: It was pretty much over at halftime. They could try

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this is you know again And I'm

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Speaker 3: Now he made the plays when it.

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Speaker 2: Mattered in overtime and double overtime, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to discredit him for that, right, But last week fourteen

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Speaker 2: to sit here and say like, oh, you know, what

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Speaker 3: Anyrus Russia are passing total. That wasn't a lot. It

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was the turnoff. Like I said, it

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Speaker 3: was the turnovers that that gave him the short fields

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Speaker 2: And so so let me ask you. I mean, first

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Speaker 3: I think very very possible that USC could lose to Utah.

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Speaker 3: it is not clear sailing for the rest of the way.

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Speaker 3: You do have to wonder. I mean, how much were

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Speaker 3: looking at right now, even Arizona State scored points on

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Speaker 3: or worst football right now. You know, I forgot who

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Speaker 3: put this on Twitter. One of the NFL insiders said

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't be surprised if Drake may was the first

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe he's got a point now, Maybe

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams shouldn't be the clear cut, definitive number one

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Speaker 2: Well, Drake may is playing a National TV game too,

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Speaker 2: He's sixteen of thirty two. That's not gonna cut it either,

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Speaker 2: not gonna cut it. He does have two hundred seventy

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Speaker 3: But but two quick things.

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Speaker 2: One, you know, I guess what I would say is

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Speaker 2: just because he wasn't good today doesn't mean he shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be the number one pick, right, But we also can't

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Speaker 3: Part of the problem today.

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Speaker 2: And I think, again, I'm not a like Arnie like

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Speaker 2: the thing is, you know on this show when we

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Speaker 2: it has felt to me like there have been times

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Speaker 2: the make the exciting play rather than the good play.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, this is really two straight weeks

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Speaker 2: exactly what you just said is like the idea. And

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Speaker 2: I saw this with other people, you know, across the

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Speaker 3: They do not look good.

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Speaker 2: And I know this isn't necessarily a pressing issue already

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Speaker 2: thinking about today, Arnie. You saw that cold, you saw

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Speaker 2: the weather. They're going to the Big Ten next year.

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 2: That is true, and without Caleb Williams. So I know

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Speaker 2: we've been critical of but he is a very talented player,

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Speaker 2: and I know they're gonna have a talented quarterback next year.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I look at the Big Ten with Michigan,

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Speaker 2: the way that they play. Penn State's tough, Ohio State's tough.

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Speaker 2: Oregon I think is built for the long haul. Washington

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Speaker 2: even tougher situation. Next year, and I know there's an

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Speaker 2: expanded playoff, but it's like, you know this glitz and

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Speaker 2: and Michigan and some of these other teams, aren't he Oh,

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Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma, Texas, UCLA, USC all are gonna have

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you just one more thing about Kayleb

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Speaker 3: Williams though. Is it a fair comparison to compare Kalleb

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Speaker 3: Williams to Mac Jones, Not in the way they quarterback

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Speaker 3: or anything like that, just to the fact that Mac

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Speaker 3: Jones had so much talent around them on a great

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Speaker 3: picks all over the place, which made him look good.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have to be on the target all the

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Speaker 3: time on the money. They were so wide open. Does

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Speaker 3: USC have so many weapons that it makes Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: maybe better than he really is? Is that a fair question?

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Speaker 2: It's tough because I think you could say that for

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Speaker 3: Well that line too. It's not all on Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: Arnie was funny during the break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lorena on the board was like, wow, you're kind

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Speaker 3: You That's what I was thinking also exactly.

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, listen, the emotional damage you caused

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Speaker 3: What four years?

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Speaker 2: Yes, in this timeslot, and then you retired, you faded

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Speaker 2: mean everything in Burlington closes at like nine pms anyway,

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Speaker 3: It's funny you. I was at I was at the

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Speaker 2: good to have you back. And uh, listen what I

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Speaker 2: stop acting like they are already Dion Sanders, and I

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Speaker 2: haven't had a chance to listen, but I think that's

434
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 2: a really good take, Arnie. Is I listen to Dion

435
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 2: speak at the podium, and to me, he sounds like

436
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 2: an excellent coach. You know, after the Arizona State game,

437
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 2: this is you know, they won, but this isn't acceptable

438
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 2: and we need to be better in the standard is this?

439
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 3: And dah da da dah.

440
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 2: And even after last night he had a little speech about,

441
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, we got a bunch of guys that like

442
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: this game.

443
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't care enough about football stuff like that.

444
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 2: Right, I need to find guys that love this game.

445
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: And I know, because he is such a polarizing figure,

446
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 2: everybody wants to put it at the feet of Dion.

447
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: But I do feel like and I know that it's

448
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and everybody has social media and everybody

449
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 2: wants to be the star of their own show on

450
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: Instagram and YouTube and whatever. But I do feel like, Arnie,

451
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: some of it is on these kids, like I see,

452
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: you know, the like Shador.

453
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 3: He's a talented player, but you know he was wording

454
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 3: was he working one hundred thousand dollars watch or something

455
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 3: like that or I don't know if he was, but like,

456
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 3: do you know, I think he was, you know, and

457
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: showed it like he can't be doing that. That that

458
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 3: like again, bad optics when you're doing.

459
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: That, Like I had to be a jerk. But you know,

460
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 2: they showed Travis Hunter walking out of the field. There's

461
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 2: four camera guys following him and maybe that's not him.

462
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 2: Maybe they're just doing it because it's it's the network whatever.

463
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: But you know, shut or I don't need the point

464
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 2: to my watch every single time you complete a first down,

465
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know. I don't feel like

466
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: it's on Dion because I think a lot like Dion

467
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: has created this incredible platform for those kids, and I

468
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of them to Levar's point, and

469
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Speaker 2: I don't want to quote them because I haven't listened

470
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: to the segment yet, but I feel like a lot

471
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: of them think, well, because I play for Dion and

472
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 2: because everybody's talking Colorado, that means that I have made it.

473
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: And it's like no, like like you're a team, you're

474
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Speaker 2: a work in progress. You might get there one day,

475
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Speaker 2: but I don't know, Like I think Coach Prime and

476
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: he said it all week long, is like he said

477
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 2: it going into the Oregon game. He said it after

478
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Speaker 2: the Arizona State game. Is like, guys like like, I

479
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 2: need more focus. I need to get you guys on

480
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: a different wavelength. And I don't know how to fully

481
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: articulate what I'm trying to say, but I do feel

482
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Speaker 2: like some of it is on these players who just

483
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: think because I play for this famous head coach, it means.

484
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Speaker 3: That I have arrived even though they haven't. You know,

485
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Speaker 3: I do put more on Dion than that, and you

486
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: are doing here. I think there's a couple of things

487
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Speaker 3: I was reading about some of the First of all,

488
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Speaker 3: I think it might have been Jason Whitlock, but not

489
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 3: exactly sure, who said that Dion likes to go forward

490
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: on fourth down a lot, but he likes to have

491
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Speaker 3: his kid out there running up the statistics. I don't

492
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 3: know if that's true, but you do have to wonder, well,

493
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: you know, why does he go on fourth down so much?

494
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Speaker 3: And have you ever heard about the rumor that Aaron

495
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: Rodgers doesn't like to throw it up? But at the

496
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: end of halves went so he doesn't have the interceptions right,

497
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: he didn't have that on his statistics out there there's

498
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 3: people bringing up that Shador gets sacked a lot because

499
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 3: he just doesn't want to have the incompletions on his

500
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: statistics and rather go and take a sack or something

501
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 3: to that effect. I hate to say that if it's

502
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: not true, but you know, people do, players do look

503
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Speaker 3: at their statistics. I don't know if you know this, Aaron.

504
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: The NBA made a slight change a long time ago

505
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: when you threw up a full court shot at no

506
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: longer counts as a shot attempt because players stopped doing it.

507
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: They didn't what it got into the miss so they said,

508
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Speaker 3: fin if you throw it up at the end of

509
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: the half of the quarter, we're not gonna give you

510
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: a shot attempt because they know exactly what they're doing.

511
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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of disgusting, to be honest with you,

512
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Speaker 3: you know.

513
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Speaker 2: Well, and it goes to we talked about Caleb Williams.

514
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: You know, is he trying to make the great play

515
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: rather than the easy one? And I do kind of

516
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 2: feel like that with shid Or sometimes. I don't know

517
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: if he's holding on because he's trying to pat his

518
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: stats or what. And I know it's tough because he

519
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: threw for four hundred yards last night. So it's hard

520
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: to sit there and say like he's the problem, and

521
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I'm not thinking that. I'm not saying he's the prop.

523
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: I just think it's the mindset nowadays, all the everything

524
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 3: has changed, and not that anything is really that wrong

525
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: with the NIL, but things have completely changed with the NIL,

526
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: the transfer portal. It's a different mindset now of the athlete.

527
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Speaker 3: It's it's kind of crazy.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say, first of all, I don't think it

529
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Speaker 2: was a good look back to the original point about

530
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: you know, tweeting out stuff during the game, and I

531
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Speaker 2: just it just feels like I've just, you know, obviously,

532
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 2: because it's such a big story, I've really tried to

533
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: lock in on, you know, when Dion as a press conference,

534
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: what is he saying? And you know, sometimes Arnie, and

535
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: you know, just because he's a famous coach, it doesn't

536
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: change the fact that sometimes you can kind of tell

537
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: when a coach knows that things are kind of going sideways.

538
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: And I've kind of gotten a sense, Arnie over these

539
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks that he kind of knows the

540
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: teams maybe buying the type a little bit more than

541
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: they probably should.

542
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Speaker 3: So well, they're getting him hyped up. Everybody's all excited

543
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: to play Colorado. My Arizona team is going to be

544
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: playing Colorado, so hopefully that's one of our two victories

545
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: to get to ball eligibility. I can't wait for that one.

546
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, everybody gets all even Colorado's springs there are

547
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: at Colorado's state. They're like, yeah, let's do it. Man,

548
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: you're talking all this crap. Let's go ahead and get

549
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 3: it on, and everybody wants to come at Dion. Look,

550
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: he's done a great job at you know, putting the

551
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: program back on the map. The place is packed, people

552
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: going to the spring football. Money's coming in, so he's

553
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 3: doing a tremendous job. It's still turning around that program.

554
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that.

555
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Arnie will come back and we will

556
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Speaker 2: get to that Oregon Washington game because that was a thriller.

557
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: Speaking of thrillers, news desk, I made Saga work tonight

558
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: because I was working. He had to come in.

559
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: Some of us enjoy being here.

560
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: You didn't want to work.

561
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: So Sator has never left my side.

562
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Speaker 3: Arnie.

563
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Speaker 4: Unlike you, you talked about Colorado football, they are off

564
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: next week, and then it's Colorado at Ucla at the

565
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: end of the month. The Bruins have just lost on

566
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Speaker 4: Fox TV at number fifteen Oregon State. The Oregon State

567
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: Beavers have two wins against ranked opponents in the same

568
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: season for the first time in over a decade.

569
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Speaker 3: Wow.

570
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: Tonight's final was thirty six to twenty four, as young

571
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: Ucla quarterback Dante More had one touchdown pass three interceptions.

572
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 4: He's throwing a pick six in three straight games. By

573
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 4: the way, it's.

574
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Speaker 3: Pretty good the street going.

575
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: Not like it sounds like Arnie at the Y seven

576
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 2: straight miss threes.

577
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get hot. I'll get hot, give me the ball.

578
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: Number twelve North Carolina has just beaten Miami, which somehow

579
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: was still ranked this week forty one thirty one. Apparently

580
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: they didn't see the Miami finish of last week.

581
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: I could believe that, Like I saw the rankings come

582
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: out last week, and I don't have a vote in

583
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: the AP and I'm not here to criticize, but I

584
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: was like, how there has to be somebody more deserving

585
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: of my than Miami to be at this poll this week.

586
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 4: Not just that they lost to a Georgia Tech team

587
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: that was doing nothing that night last Saturday night, but

588
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: just the way they lost, could have taken a knee,

589
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: ran it up the middle instead and fumbled. Tyler Van

590
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: Dyke Hurricanes quarterback tonight did have three hundred and ninety

591
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 4: one yards passing four touchdowns one interception, but Drake May,

592
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: future first round quarterback from the Tar Heels, had four

593
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: touchdown passes in this victory.

594
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: Well.

595
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: As for the Pac twelve teams, today's game was sensational

596
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 4: At Washington, numbers seven Huskies beat the number eight Oregon

597
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: Ducks thirty six thirty three on a touchdown pass with

598
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: under two minutes to go. I would guess Michael Pennix

599
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: is now the Heisman front runner with four touchdown passes today,

600
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: Oregon missed a forty three yard field goal attempt on

601
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: the final play. Tonight at Notre Dame, Irish over tenth

602
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 4: ranked USC forty eight to twenty Trojans with five turnovers.

603
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 4: You talked about Notre Dame's offense has not always been

604
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: great this year. That includes tonight's. They had twelve drives,

605
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: thirteen first downs, and that was a blowout victory. The

606
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: defense did sack Caleb Williams six times. Arizona sacked in

607
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 4: four times last week in that long game. Notre Dame

608
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: is off now next week and then they'll be hosting

609
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: pitt Pittsburgh was one and four but upset previously undefeated

610
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: Louisville thirty eight twenty one. Louisville was ranked fourteenth in

611
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 4: the country this week, but quarterback Jack paul A Jack

612
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 4: Plumber and the loss one touchdown, three turnovers, sacked four times.

613
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 4: Cardinals are off next week. Elsewhere, we had well Alabama

614
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: holding on to a home victory.

615
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: Against got lucky. We got lucky.

616
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: He was twenty four to six.

617
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: I know that they played horrible after that.

618
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: Bama is four to Zeroing conference, Arkansas is oh and

619
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Speaker 4: four twenty four to twenty one the final. Elsewhere it

620
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: was Utah with a win Duke one. Tonight, Arizona at

621
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: number nineteen. Washington State be in the top four right now.

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Speaker 4: You know most often when we talk about Arizona football, Yes,

623
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: it's that yeah wow tonight the full growl from the

624
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: Arizona wildcare. They are a robust four and three on

625
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: the season at.

626
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: Two overtime losses winning.

627
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. I got a note that they and the other

628
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: loss was to Washington forty four to six tonight. The

629
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Speaker 4: final Arizona at nineteenth ranked Washington State, Tennessee and LSU

630
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: with home wins. Oklahoma State beat Kansas thirty nine thirty two.

631
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Speaker 4: Missouri got to win at Kentucky tonight thirty eight to

632
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: twenty one. Navy won it's game fourteen to nothing at Charlotte,

633
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: which is one and five.

634
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: We got two. I missed that one.

635
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly you missed that one. Why do you think

636
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: we brought it up? There are two late games in

637
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: the Mountain West Conference halftime on FS one, Boise State

638
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: leads seventeen to nothing at Colorado State. The late game

639
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 4: at Hawaii. San Diego State has a ten to nothing

640
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: lead on the road in the first quarter. As far

641
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: as the Big Ten, Michigan States zero to three in conference.

642
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: It lost in the rain at Rutgers twenty seven to

643
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: twenty four. Rutgers with three touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

644
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: Illinois kicked a late field goal to win at Maryland

645
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: twenty seven to twenty four. Iowa led seven to six

646
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter at Wisconsin fifteen to six. Hawkeyes

647
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 4: get a WS explosion yet another win, scoring fifteen points

648
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: or less. For Kirk Farnce most of anybody in college

649
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: football during his tenure. By the way, Wisconsin's quarterback Tanner

650
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Speaker 4: Mordechai did suffer an injury to his hand and could

651
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Speaker 4: be missing some time. And guys, I don't know if

652
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: like me, you were flipping the channels with college football

653
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: today and ran across the Eaststern Michigan game, you know

654
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: how you went watched the Boise State game and the

655
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: blue turf really kind of knocks you out. It's noticeably

656
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Speaker 4: different than all the other games. Well, Eastern Michigan has

657
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Speaker 4: a field that's gray turf, so when you're watching an

658
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Speaker 4: Eastern Michigan home game, it's as if you're watching the

659
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Speaker 4: game in black and white and only the uniforms are

660
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Speaker 4: in color as the guys are running around. So the

661
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Speaker 4: visitor today they're at EMU was the Golden Flashes of

662
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: Kent State at one in five. So they decided secretly,

663
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Speaker 4: let's try an onside kick to open the game. And

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Speaker 4: here's how it went.

665
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: On side kick Here for the Flashes trying to cover up.

666
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: Emu's got it and they look like they may take

667
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: it to the house and the Eagles, well.

668
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: Touch down. I love it.

669
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Speaker 4: Five seconds into the game, Kent State is trailing and

670
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: they did wind up losing twenty eight fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, by the way, how many times in

672
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball playoffs do we not have games on

673
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: Saturday night? And stuff like what's going on with no

674
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: no playoff games?

675
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: What the hell's going ALCS starts Sunday night on Fox.

676
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: NLCS doesn't start till Monday night.

677
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: Just cancel it now, forget it now, you know I'm

678
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: not interested.

679
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: And in fact, they're putting two games on Monday. So

680
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: game two of that Texas at Houston on Fox is

681
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: a Monday afternoon game joke, just as.

682
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: What happens when all the good teams get knocked out

683
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: because they have too much?

684
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: Say, the good teams are knocked out, the interesting teams

685
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: are knocked out, and you don't give me a game

686
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: on a Saturday night and in Round two of the playoffs,

687
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: what are you crazy?

688
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: I will say, Like, as I was prepping for today's show,

689
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: I did, I was like, am I missing?

690
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: Like it is there?

691
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: There must be bit And then I remember everybody got

692
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: knocked out super early and all that. Yeah, do you

693
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 2: want to do one minute on the baseball format?

694
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: Do you hate it? Do you love it? I'm not

695
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: crazy about it at all. I'm not I don't even

696
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: have to have another year of it. I'm I'm not

697
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: enjoying it. I don't like it. The big name teams

698
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: are getting eliminated early. I know that's not so much

699
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: about the format, but they they wait so long between

700
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: the first and the second round. We got to find

701
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: another way to do this.

702
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I don't know what the answer is,

703
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: but when I just think it's it's so bizarre that

704
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: basically from mid February on you're basically playing six days

705
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: a week until the end of September at the exception

706
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: of All Star Break, and then all of a sudden,

707
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: you just get a week off like it's a rhythm sport.

708
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: And you know, so, I'm not smart enough to know

709
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: what the answer is, but I don't think you gotta.

710
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: Go to this split season. I mean that they have

711
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: to do it. There's really no choice. It gives you

712
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: two opening days to penit races. Explain, well, you know,

713
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: just eighty one games and eighty one games. That way,

714
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: you have two opening days, two pennant races. If your

715
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: team is twenty games out of first place to the

716
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: first half. You can get pumped up first second half,

717
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: people will go back to the games, you'll get bigger

718
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: crowds out there, and you'll get a better separate World

719
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: Series for the No wait a minute.

720
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: If if one team wins both haves of their division title,

721
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: then they've got six days off while the other guys playoffs.

722
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: It's not a perfect situation.

723
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: You can't play against yourself to the division. You won

724
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 4: both halves in the season.

725
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: The one year that we had split season, the Reds

726
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: had the best record in baseball, they didn't make the playoffs.

727
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: Part of the reason was because the Dodgers already won

728
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: the first half, and then they didn't have to go

729
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 4: gung ho in the second half because they were as

730
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: sured to playoffs. But because they already won the first.

731
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: Half, well that's okay too. I mean you could have

732
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: that also, but at least you have renowned hope for

733
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: a new season. And they do it in the minor

734
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: leagues too, and it seems to work out there.

735
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: Maybe some combination of what the NBA does where it's

736
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: so bad that they let nine and ten seeds in

737
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: at least you go at least they make them win

738
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 4: two games in a row to even get into the

739
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: official playoffs on the row, right right.

740
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 2: Arny, split season theory is more confusing to me than

741
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: the NBA in season.

742
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: All over minor.

743
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: League, Well, I'm sorry to follow minor league baseball on

744
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: a day to day basis.

745
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: I know they just come.

746
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: I know the Vermont Lake Monsters had a great year.

747
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: But listen, simply put that you divide, as he said,

748
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: eighty one games in the first half, eighty one games

749
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: in the second half. His idea is, for example, in

750
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: the NL East, if the Mets finished first after the

751
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: first half of the season, they're sure at a playoff spot.

752
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: And then the Phillies finished first for the second half

753
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: of the season, well, then you got Mets versus Philly

754
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: to decide the East champion. That's his idea.

755
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: That makes even less sense. Brilliant, No, it doesn't make it. Well,

756
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: they're doing it all over the place. What's wrong with you?

757
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: If they're doing it in Vermont, that's when I know

758
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: it's not a good idea. Fox Sports Radio Air Tours

759
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Jason Martin out, Arnie Spanier in maybe we'll get to Oregon,

760
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: Washington when we come back. Stay tuned Fox Sports Red.

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766
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Speaker 5: We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's

767
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Speaker 5: more about the stories about what made these people love

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Speaker 5: their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.

769
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Speaker 5: We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell

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775
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Speaker 2: Arnie one hundred dollars, Arnie, if I if you can

776
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: name who sings this song?

777
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna have to pass on that one. My friend,

778
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be.

779
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: On CARDI b that is.

780
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: I was listening to her on my eight track on

781
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: the way in That's My Bat with Bad Bunny. I

782
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: believe too.

783
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Who you thought remember when Bad Bunny was in the

784
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: All Star like home Run Derby or something like the celebrity.

785
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know who that was and Mike, Why

786
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: do they keep talking about what they Yeah, you thought

787
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: there was a rabbit on the field, Yes, and they're mad.

788
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: Really happened to Randa? For the record, Lorena, who has

789
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: a music background, is laughing. Yeah, yeah, there was, like yeah,

790
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: it was like a celebrity home run contest at Dodger

791
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: Stadium and Bad Bunny was in it.

792
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: I ran into uh, a celebrity and I didn't know celebrity,

793
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: and I'm like, dude, Brett Farv, we know what is

794
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: up with your teeth? And it was flavor flave. I

795
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: don't believe that. No, yeah I did. We were in

796
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: the elevator together. Oh well, I dude, what is up

797
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: with that teeth? Dude? What's up with that?

798
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: I told producer Pat and Lorena that you do have

799
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: like four stories that you share pretty routinely, So we'll

800
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: save when you insulted Brett Favre to his face for

801
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: our three for those who haven't heard it. I also

802
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: still don't know the resolution to the one where you

803
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: and Ben Maller.

804
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: Share a hot tup together. But I don't know if

805
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: I want to hear that one. I don't think you

806
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: do want to hear that one.

807
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Speaker 2: So you know PAC twelve Heavy hour one, Arny. We

814
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: talked to USC losing a note to day, and we

815
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: talked Colorado last night, even a little bit about Arizona Wildcats.

816
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: We did have a top ten matchup in Seattle, though,

817
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: as the Washington Huskies do win thirty six to thirty three.

818
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Big story here, Arnie. Oregon had the ball with what

819
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: about under two minutes to go and essentially could they

820
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: they could have punted the ball. They they it was

821
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: they had the ball on the Washington forty seven. It

822
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: was a fourth and three with two minutes and eleven

823
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: seconds left, could have punted it, made Washington go to

824
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: the length of the field. Dan Lanning instead decides to

825
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: go for it. They do not get it. Washington two

826
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: plays fifty three yard scores what ends up being the

827
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: game winning touchdown. Now, Oregon did get the ball back

828
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 2: and they were in position to kick a game tying

829
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: field goal, but they did not get it. What did

830
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: you make of Dan Lanning's decision to go for it

831
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: on fourth down.

832
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: I know he's getting ripped like crazy over his decision,

833
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: and sure it's easy now hindsight's twenty twenty. I was

834
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: totally four it. I'm saying to myself, three yards you

835
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: win the game. If you punt it, You're not guaranteed

836
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: to win the game. The block, the punt could be blocked.

837
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: You're a putter, could drop it, he could shank it.

838
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: They can go down the field and they can score.

839
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: There's many different things that could happen. You don't know.

840
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 3: It's still but you pick up three yards game over.

841
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: So I can understand why I was doing that. They

842
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: have obviously good offenses. They were moving the ball up

843
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: and down. I don't have a problem. He went for

844
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: the win. He came up short. It was on the

845
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: forty seven, so was past midfield. You know, again, he

846
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: went for the win. I know he's getting ripped in

847
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: the media, but I thought it was a good move.

848
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: So I actually agree with you and let me let

849
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: me give my thought process. So if you punt it,

850
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: So the arguing meant to not punt the ball is,

851
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: if you punt the ball, you believe that Washington is

852
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: good enough to go to the length of the field and

853
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: score in under two minutes. Right, yeah, right, So in

854
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: that case, then if you don't believe that Washington, if

855
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: you believe Washington is so good and you don't really

856
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: trust your defense, then here's the counter argument. It kind

857
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: of could play out exactly like like it did. You

858
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: either get it and you seal the win, or they

859
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: get the ball at midfield and they're probably gonna score

860
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: anyway and give you a realistic chance to at least

861
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: run a few plays. So does that make sense?

862
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: Like like even if they had a chance, like you said,

863
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: they had a chance to come back, they scored, and

864
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: they had a minute and a half, they came down,

865
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Speaker 3: they had a field goal of a fairly makeup a

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Speaker 3: one to go ahead and send the thing in the overtime.

867
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Speaker 3: So they just didn't pull it off. They had two

868
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: out of three chances there.

869
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if I explained it well,

870
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: but I guess my argument is if you don't trust

871
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: your defense enough to stop them going the length of

872
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: the field, then you're also in theory saying Washington is

873
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: probably gonna score, and in that case, maybe they score

874
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: quickly enough where you get the ball back and have

875
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: a chance to again getting field goal range, potentially score

876
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: the game winning touchdown. That was exactly what happened. Now

877
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 2: the kick didn't go through, Washington wins, but incredible game.

878
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: And I think the cool thing is the PAC twelve.

879
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: The top two teams go to the conference championship game.

880
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: So these two teams could be playing in a couple

881
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: weeks or a couple months from now in that PAC

882
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: twelve championship game. Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Tours and Arnie

883
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: Spaniard coming up, we switch gears to the NFL.

884
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: We'll talk Belichick. That's next.

885
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Welcome back, everybody, Hour two, Fox Sports Radio,

886
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Torres, Jason Martin out Tonight's Arnie span You're in.

887
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm already going to get a half hour less sleep

888
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: tonight because of you. Oh wow, Okay, why is that?

889
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: Because I'm only gonna be able to sleep from two

890
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: am to nine to thirty Easternause I gotta get up

891
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: for the Ravens Titans tomorrow early. You know, sure, I

892
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: meant gotta early. I'm not thinking those early games so much,

893
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: to be honest.

894
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: No, at least we're getting real teams like Bill's Jags

895
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: was fun. You know, there's been a couple of you know,

896
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: especially when the Jags were bad, there were some real

897
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: duds duds in there. So should mention, by the way, Arnie,

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902
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Speaker 2: By the way, So you say you'll get a half

903
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: an hour less sleep, So does that mean you're normally

904
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: going to bed at one thirty?

905
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: No?

906
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: No, I usually get eight hour sleep. Now I'm only

907
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: gonna get seven and a half hours.

908
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: So and that's a nine to thirty Eastern time start.

909
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's six thirty your time that you can't be

910
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: getting up for that that's gonna.

911
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't make me sound like a very

912
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: good radio host to say that, but listen, if you

913
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: if you slept through if you slept through Colorado last night.

914
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm allowed to sleep through a lending game that I

915
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: don't really care that much about. But I will say

916
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: this already. You are on the East Coast, and you

917
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: do live in New England, in Vermont, where your wife

918
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: is still shoveling for you. By the way, have you

919
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: got any big snowstorms yet?

920
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: Not yet, not yet. It's all the October, but we

921
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: expect them any day now. So okay, yes, I brought

922
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: her a brand new shovel, the Lamborghini of shovels. It's

923
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: got like a foam padding on it, and it's a

924
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: curvcture so it's easier to maneuver, and she's gonna have

925
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: a blast with.

926
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: It, a blast, have a good time. I've never heard

927
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: of a shovel that anyone having a blast with a

928
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: shovel unless they're hitting people like you over the head

929
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: with it. But anyway, all right, so you live in

930
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: New England. I'm just gonna throw it out there. I

931
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: don't need to tee this up. I want to switch

932
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: gears to the NFL, though. We'll get back to college

933
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: in a little bit. Just if I just say, Bill Belichick,

934
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. What is the mood in New England

935
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: right now? Like when you listen to sports talk in

936
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Boston or in your area or whatever, what is the

937
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: mood around the Patriots right now?

938
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: That's certainly not pretty. And not only is it not pretty,

939
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: there doesn't seem to be an end in sight too.

940
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like there's a solution here. Look, let's

941
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: be honest. You know, it's not what you've done for me.

942
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: It's what you've done for me lately. And what you've

943
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: done for me lately is nothing. If you're Bill Belichick,

944
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: if I'm the New England Patriots, let's take a look

945
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: at what you got.

946
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 6: Now.

947
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: You got Robert Kraft, who is obviously I don't think

948
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 3: he's calling the shots. He's just too old out there,

949
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: and he's got to be passing it on to his son, Jonathan. Eventually,

950
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: Jonathan's going to be taking over and letting everybody know

951
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: he's calling the shots. He's gonna want to hire his

952
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: own coach and his own general manager too, I think

953
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: after this year, because there doesn't seem to be a

954
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: solution in sight. If I'm Belichick, call it what you want, retiring, quitting, firing,

955
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: I would be gone. I can't finish out my career,

956
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: and I know he wants to break the record for wins,

957
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to finish out my career on

958
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: a lousy Patriot team as they go through five or

959
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: six wins a year in a seventeen game schedule. It's

960
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: just too much, and plus the Crafts won't allow it.

961
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: I think that he will end up going to a

962
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: different team. You know, somebody a little bit more established

963
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: break the record and then retire. But you know, let's

964
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: be honest, if somebody his age, why did he just retire? Now.

965
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: I know it's important that he breaks the record, but

966
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: that Patriot team is in shambles. They're the worst team

967
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: in the AFC East. Nobody's afraid of playing them. Whatsoever.

968
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: They have nobody on the offensive end that scares you.

969
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: They have an okay defense, Their quarterback needs to be replaced.

970
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 3: He's just done a horrible job. So I think this

971
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: is gonna be his last year with the Patriots when

972
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: it's all said and done.

973
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: So it's funny when you break down the game what

974
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: it reminds me of or what it makes me think of.

975
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: So you and I were on air during the lost

976
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: by the Patriots to the Titans on wildcardkend in what

977
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: ended up being tom Brady's last game as a New

978
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: England Patriot, Right, And I remember both of us, so

979
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: I'm not this isn't like a knock on you. It's

980
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: like we were both like, oh, tom Brady's washed up,

981
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, he just he has no talent

982
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: around him, right, and that like that has been an issue.

983
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say dating back to

984
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: like the Randy Moss days, but the last couple of

985
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: years they had no playmakers. They have no playmakers now

986
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: without the greatest quarterback in the history of the sport.

987
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: And so from the New England perspective, like like, let's

988
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: start with forget Belichick. Can he go somewhere else?

989
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: Well, that's what Belichick likes to do. He likes he

990
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: didn't have any weapons from tom Brady. Oh yeah, he

991
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: didn't have any weapons from mac Jones. And tom Brady

992
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: took the hometown discount because of Giselle and the money

993
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: that she was making out there, so he could have

994
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: really held her feet to the fire and taken more.

995
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: They never used that extra money to get anybody offensively.

996
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: So real quick, So how do you think so this

997
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: is so it's clearly not going well. They're not good.

998
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: They're gonna end up with the top five pick. You know,

999
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: you mentioned mac Joe earlier. They're gonna have to take

1000
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Do you think they force him out? Do

1001
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: you think he wants to leave? I mean, because it's

1002
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: two sides. Is one do the Patriots they're going to

1003
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: have to rebuild do they want to do it with him?

1004
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: But then to your point, he's seventy two years old.

1005
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: Is that something he's gonna want to go through. He's

1006
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: never been good with young players. He's certainly never been

1007
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: good with young quarterbacks, and he's not good in the

1008
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: draft either exactly. And he doesn't like to conform.

1009
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: And let's face it, if there's going to be a

1010
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: changing guard at the top from Robert to Jonathan, Jonathan's

1011
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: gonna want to bring in his own people in also,

1012
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: So it really is kind of like a perfect storm.

1013
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: The team's not very good, Belichick is getting older. He'll

1014
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: probably want to go to another team to break the

1015
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: record for a couple of years and then and call

1016
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: it quits after that. I don't know if that's good

1017
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: enough to go ahead and stick around for. But some

1018
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: team will easily go ahead and want him. I would

1019
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: think there'd be a high demand for somebody like him,

1020
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: especially for an interim per term, which is gonna be

1021
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: a couple of years. So I think you'll end up

1022
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: going somewhere else.

1023
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: So you think, at seventy two years old, and it's

1024
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: pretty clear that Brady was carrying him for a long stretch,

1025
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: that they're because this is something Jason and I talked about,

1026
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: probably probably about six eight weeks ago before the season started,

1027
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 2: was if it doesn't go well, Belichick is gonna be

1028
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: seventy two years old by the start of next season.

1029
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: He'll turn seventy two in April. And he hasn't won

1030
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: very much without Brady. And as you said, and I

1031
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: think you're right, he's very clearly stubborn. I want to

1032
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: do it my way. It's about defense. I don't care

1033
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: about having a star quarterback. Like if you're say the

1034
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers or something, right, because I think we

1035
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: all think that job's gonna open up. I mean, I

1036
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: don't know even if it's not the Charger.

1037
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: So like if you if the Chargers opened up, I

1038
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: would consider hiring Belichick because if you make a mistaken

1039
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, you know, it doesn't have to

1040
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: be for a long term thing because he's only gonna

1041
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 3: stick around for a couple of years. So I would

1042
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: take a chance on that.

1043
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: Well, I would take a chance if I was the

1044
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: Chargers because the quarterback is so set. Like if you're

1045
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: either A not sure about your quarterback or B you

1046
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: plan on drafting a guy, because this is gonna be

1047
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: a great quarterback draft, and there's probably gonna be four, five,

1048
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: six guys drafted in the first round, right then I

1049
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: want to take him. But like Justin Herbert, you know,

1050
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing him to Tom Brady. Tom Brady wont

1051
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: six super Bowls. But what I'm saying is is that

1052
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: that side of the ball is pretty good. It's like

1053
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's already Justin Herbert's already doing it with mediocre

1054
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: coaching as it is, although Kellen Moore's obviously been very good.

1055
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say that, but you know, if Belichick

1056
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: just took care of that side of the ball defensively,

1057
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: which has been a mess for the Chargers, then offensively,

1058
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: Herbert can kind of hold his own. So maybe that's

1059
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: one that makes sense. I just I'm curious what the

1060
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: demand would be because I think it would have to

1061
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: be a very specific team that would want Belichick. Again,

1062
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: if you have a bunch of young players, I don't

1063
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: think he's the guy for whoever. I can't think of

1064
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: who's what jobs are going to open up?

1065
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: Well, Chicago may open up. That's some positive, but again,

1066
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: you know that's just another bad situation.

1067
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: And the other thing to what you mentioned. If somehow

1068
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: he quote unquote gets forced out or it's a joint

1069
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: decision to leave, or whatever it ends up being, you're

1070
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: not just gonna hire Bill Belichick the head coach. I

1071
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: can't imagine that he goes somewhere when he doesn't have

1072
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: player personnel control.

1073
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: So, oh no, he won't have that, he won't have

1074
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: GM controller.

1075
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: So you think he's going to quote unquote voluntarily leave

1076
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: New England where he is not only the coach but

1077
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 2: player personnel, and he's gonna just go somewhere to coach

1078
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: somebody else's players.

1079
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: Well, what do you mean by voluntarily leaving?

1080
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm asking you, I'm saying you you're saying that he

1081
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: won't want to stay around.

1082
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I think it's more that they don't want

1083
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: him around, yes, than him. That's what I'm around. I

1084
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: think the Crafts will push him out and they're not

1085
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 3: gonna call it a firing. They'll just say he wants

1086
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 3: to go try something else. I don't know what you ever,

1087
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, Aaron, you know you

1088
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: that's fine. But the point is that he won't be

1089
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: with the Patriots nex year because I think the Crafts

1090
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: are gonna say that's enough. We're gonna go ahead and

1091
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 3: go in a different direction. Jonathan's gonna call the shots

1092
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: now and uh and so be it from there.

1093
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the way you made it sound was essentially that

1094
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: you thought that it would be the way that you

1095
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: made it sound earlier, and it's just it is what

1096
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: it is. But you made it sound to me like

1097
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: it was a mutual. Hey, this is a rebuild. I

1098
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: will be mutual.

1099
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: When they tell you, it's like when when when your

1100
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: girlfriend says she doesn't want to date you anymore. Okay,

1101
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: it's mutual.

1102
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to date you that yet. It's like

1103
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: when you're it's something like that. It's like when your

1104
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: radio host that you've been working with for three years,

1105
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: calls you on a Thursday and says, hey, Saturday is

1106
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: my last show. Go get him Champ. Oh that actually

1107
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: happened to me a couple of years ago. Never mind, Yeah, okay, yeah, no,

1108
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: so so that that was what I was a little

1109
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: confused by because you were talking about the wins record

1110
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: and this and that. But I agree it's not working.

1111
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: I disagree. I don't think like the idea that a

1112
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: six time super Bowl champion that there's no one that

1113
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: will hire him. I don't necessarily believe that, right, But

1114
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: I don't think the line would be as long as

1115
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: you would think for a six time super Bowl champion,

1116
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: given what has happened.

1117
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: Since Tom Brady has left New England. Arny, was there

1118
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 3: a long line for Tom Brady? I think there was

1119
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: only about what three or four plays, maybe even less

1120
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: than that, that we thought he can go to. I

1121
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: think there could be a I'm not gonna say half

1122
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 3: the teams are gonna want somebody like Belichick, but I

1123
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: could think, you know, let's say there's ten openings or

1124
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: eight openings, maybe two or three will have a legitimate

1125
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 3: interest in somebody like Bill. Why wouldn't you have to

1126
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 3: you know what his record shows, of course you would

1127
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: have it.

1128
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: Why you wouldn't was because exactly what I just said,

1129
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: seventy two years old hasn't won without Brady, and he's

1130
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 2: insanely stubborn, and in a world where you need great

1131
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: quarterback play great offense, he's a guy that still thinks

1132
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: you can win without great quarterbacks. I mean, he shoved

1133
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: out the greatest quarterback in the history of the sport,

1134
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: aren't he.

1135
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe he's not gonna have a chance to,

1136
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: you know, do that on his new team. And do

1137
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: when we say that he shoved out Tom Brady, the

1138
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 3: Crabs have to take response Toble for that. Also, they

1139
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: could have said, you know what, Bill, No, he's coming back.

1140
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: We're taking him back, and that's just the way it's

1141
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: gonna be. But Craft didn't step up to the plate

1142
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: and talk for Tom Brady, so they got rid of him,

1143
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: all right.

1144
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: So it's hard to project and know who could potentially

1145
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: have a job opening. We talked about an established team

1146
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: like the Chargers. Let's say the Bears or the Cardinals.

1147
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: Neither team is good, one of the two gets the

1148
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: number one pick. Do you think that makes sense given

1149
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: that he again basically has no track record of developing

1150
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: young players, and you'll almost certainly be starting over with Caleb.

1151
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: Does it make sense for him or does it make

1152
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: sense for the team. For the team, Oh, if I'm Arizona,

1153
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: I mean, what history do you really have? Yeah, you

1154
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: had a Super Bowl many many years ago. But maybe

1155
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: it gives you renewed interest. Maybe people in Arizona like, hey,

1156
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: here comes Belichick. This is gonna be awesome. Well see

1157
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: how it goes for a couple of years. What have

1158
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 3: they had to cheer about the last couple of years

1159
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: out there in Arizona. Maybe he kind of wakes some

1160
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: people up there in the desert. I wouldn't think that

1161
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: they'd be a mutual pairing there. I'm curious.

1162
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: I think these really bad teams for a really long

1163
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: time maybe could talk themselves into it. I think there

1164
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: are some fan bases though, that will see what has

1165
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: happened the last few years and be like, I get it,

1166
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: he's a legend, but I want something else, you know,

1167
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: Like it's like when you know it'd be like if

1168
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is.

1169
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 3: A no, you want some coordinator that's never had a

1170
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: job before and you want to give him his first

1171
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: chance something like that, or what.

1172
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean, let me ask you a question. You can

1173
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: hire one of these two people tomorrow, Jim Harbaugh or

1174
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. Who'd you take as an NFL head coach.

1175
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 3: I would probably take Harbaugh, but it'd be a tough

1176
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: decision either way. Yeah, I and I get it, right.

1177
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: If it's the Rams offensive coordinator or some guy you've

1178
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: never heard of, I get it. I just feel like

1179
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: it's almost to me. It's a little bit like if

1180
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: you told some teams, hey, you can trade for Russell

1181
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 2: Wilson tomorrow, they'd be like, well, I kind of seen

1182
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson the last two or three years.

1183
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: It isn't very pretty.

1184
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: And I get that he was good a million years ago,

1185
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: but I've seen the last two or three years, and

1186
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it's the same with Belichick.

1187
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: But agree to disagree.

1188
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, here's a good news Arnie

1189
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,719
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1196
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but, by the way, who would you rather hire

1197
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 3: If I said your choices were Belichick or Eric Penemy

1198
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: or something to that effect.

1199
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: I and I'm not doing this to start an argument.

1200
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: I do think it depends on the circumstance. So I'll

1201
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: give you an example. If I was the Chicago Bears

1202
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: and I am coming off this disastrous and I know

1203
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: they just won, but you know, justin Fields era doesn't work,

1204
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna draft Caleb Williams. I would rather have Eric

1205
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: Benemy with Caleb Williams, then I would Bill Belichick.

1206
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 3: And I mean that.

1207
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: Now, if it was now, I think that's fair, that's

1208
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: absolutely fair. And I was gonna say, to your point,

1209
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: I think if it's the Chargers, if it's a veteran,

1210
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 2: established team that's kind of just they do dumb stuff

1211
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: because they're poorly coached, then yeah, I would probably take

1212
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick over Eric Bienne me.

1213
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: Because you said, who are they gonna go up against?

1214
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: I said, well, here are your choices, somebody established like

1215
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: Belichick or no offensive coordinator like Biennamy that's looking for

1216
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: his job.

1217
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: You know.

1218
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's weird, you know, but it does

1219
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: speak to kind of what I'm saying is like six

1220
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: time Super Bowl champ if Belichick, if Belichick was basically

1221
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: like when Brady leaves, I leave and he had become

1222
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: a free agent at the same time as Brady, I

1223
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: think there would have been a bigger line for Belichick

1224
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 2: than there would have been for Brady four or five

1225
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: years ago.

1226
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: Perhaps you oh, you may be right about that.

1227
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: And now and now, you know, Belichick just looks a little, yeah,

1228
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: a little washed up. So, by the way, was it's

1229
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: seventy I think I did the math. Seventy two to three.

1230
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: They've been outscored the last two weeks.

1231
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, incredible, absolutely incredible, incredible.

1232
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aeron Torris, Jason Martin out Arnie Spaniard

1233
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: in coming up, Arnie, I want to switch gears to

1234
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: another quarterback, another team, another one that is going in

1235
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: the wrong direction, the Dallas Cowboys. It was not good Sunday.

1236
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: Does it get any better this week? Discuss that next

1237
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torris,

1238
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: Arnie Spaniard in for Jason Martin. Arnie, you must know

1239
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: who sings this one, right.

1240
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: Vanilla Ice? I think right? Did I get that one right?

1241
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: Vanilla Ice?

1242
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 2: You're close, Nelly go close. Cost Saint Lunatics remember them?

1243
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, I was gonna go to the concert.

1244
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, that's for like the early two thousands.

1245
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: You were in your prime. Back then, you had your

1246
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: little ponytail going.

1247
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: You were phonytail mustache, look at all.

1248
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: Mean, getting everybody riled up at Staples Center. Come on,

1249
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 2: that was that was. Those were like your go two years.

1250
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: It's all been downhill since then.

1251
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, anyway, all right, let's get back to it.

1252
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: By the way, we should mention it at the end

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Speaker 2: yourself at discover dot com slash Match. Speaking of that

1257
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: two thousands, early two thousands, that's basically the last time

1258
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys were heat all relevant. Another tough Sunday

1259
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys last week. By the way, we have

1260
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live on in the studio, Keenan Thompson or

1261
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: whatever his name is is dressed in a Colorado hoodie

1262
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: and a Colorado hat. So I'm not telling anybody to

1263
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: turn off us. But tomorrow morning on social media there

1264
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: will be a Coach Prime SNL skit for you. But anyway, already,

1265
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: so back to last Sunday, so I'll be honest. So

1266
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm not doing like theo oh my god. I totally

1267
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: got this right, because I get a lot a lot

1268
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: of stuff wrong too, But I got the excitement around

1269
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: Cowboys forty nine Ers that you know, it was a

1270
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: tough game last year in the playoffs, could have gone

1271
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: either way, forty nine Ers win. I just this game,

1272
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: specifically last Sunday, I said, brock perty is getting better

1273
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: every week. I think he's already like a top twelve

1274
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: ish quarterback in the NFL. Jason and I were talking

1275
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: about this last week. I said, in whatever it is,

1276
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: fifteen starts, thirteen starts, whatever it is, I trust him

1277
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: more than Dak Prescott. And it played out exactly like that.

1278
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: Dak finishes fourteen to twenty four, one touchdown, three interceptions,

1279
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 2: and I'll say this is like one thing that I

1280
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: like about the college game more than others. A lot

1281
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: of people don't like college sports because the players turn

1282
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: over too fast.

1283
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 3: But why.

1284
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: What I think about pro sports is that sometimes you

1285
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: get stuck with the same core for too long and

1286
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: you kind of know what the ceiling is of a team.

1287
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: And so I know they were awesome early, and you know,

1288
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: the defense was amazing, and Michael Parsons this and Michael

1289
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: Parson's that. I bring it up to say, like, I

1290
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: wasn't that excited for Dallas San Francisco because I don't

1291
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: think you can win at the highest level against the

1292
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: best teams with Dak Prescott as your quarterback. And I

1293
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: think we learned it again last week. I being too

1294
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: tough on Dak.

1295
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: No, you're not. I mean, look, I'm not a big dive. Look.

1296
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: First of all, I had Miami in Dallas in the

1297
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. If I had to take a mull again,

1298
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: and certainly would be on Dallas. There's no doubt about

1299
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: that They're not gonna win the division. Foot off, He's

1300
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: still the class of the division. Dak Prescott is not

1301
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: an elite quarterback. Matter of fact, if everything was on

1302
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: the up and up. Let's just say that he wasn't

1303
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 3: making this amount of money and he doesn't count like

1304
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: eighty million against the cap and all that. If I said,

1305
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: Cowboy fans, you can get rid of Dak tomorrow and

1306
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: pick up another quarterback in the draft coming up this year,

1307
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: and that will be your quarterback fair exchange, even Steve him,

1308
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: I bet I'd get at least eighty percent of the

1309
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: Cowboy fans going, we'll do it. We're in, We're in.

1310
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: Take Dak, We'll take some rookie quarterback, even Steven. Forget

1311
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: about the money account against the capital that obviously you

1312
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: can't do that because you're gonna be stuck with him

1313
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: for a long time. He's not dynamic enough. He's just

1314
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: good enough to maybe get to the playoffs, maybe even

1315
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: get your one playoff win, though I doubt that. But

1316
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: I could think of probably about ten to fifteen quarterbacks

1317
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: who are either better or I would rather have because

1318
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 3: they're going to be better than Dak Prescott, and I

1319
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 3: don't think Dyk's ever been the same after his injury. Also,

1320
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: we get a bunch of tweets on that too. I

1321
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 3: just it's just not going to work out, and I

1322
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: think Jerry Jon's made a big mistake giving him that

1323
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: new contract.

1324
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, because I remember when

1325
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: that contract negotiation was going on. I said, he's not

1326
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: an elite quarterback. I don't think you should pay him

1327
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: just because And obviously they did. And this is pretty

1328
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: much like what you do in the NFL, is you

1329
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that you're winning with enough and he

1330
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: end up paying them. I bring it up because and

1331
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: I know there's been exceptions. I think probably the most

1332
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: notable one was, you know, Washington with Kirk Cousins. They

1333
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: gave him two franchise tags and then they kicked him in

1334
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: the curb At some point do people stop doing this

1335
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: or anywhere? It's just like, I mean, you got to him,

1336
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: Like I even look at the New York Giants, right,

1337
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: And Jason and I talked about this last a few

1338
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Is even before like they really kind of

1339
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: went off the edge here, like the Giants, would they

1340
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: have been better off? Like like we we all knew

1341
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: coming out of last year, Daniel Jones that was as

1342
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: good as he was ever going to be for that team.

1343
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

1344
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: And And I said to Jason said, would they have

1345
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: been better off just not giving Daniel Jones the big extension?

1346
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 2: I think, if I'm not mistaken, he could have played

1347
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: on the fifth year deal, the fifth year option this year.

1348
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: Right, and then just draft another quarterback week Probably, oh,

1349
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: absolutely not. Probably, yes, they would have been better off

1350
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: on that, especially because the Giants are one and four

1351
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: and they actually did the right thing with Saint Quon Barkley.

1352
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: They gave him a little bit more money, but it's

1353
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: not any more guaranteed after this one year, so they

1354
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 3: can move on from him also, and that's what they

1355
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: probably should have done with somebody like Daniel Jones. Yeah,

1356
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: absolutely was there. They're They're not gonna go anywhere with

1357
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones also, and I'm not a big Daniel Jones.

1358
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: And to begin with all this money, I mean, who's

1359
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: in worse shape? All the money that the Giants gave

1360
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, all the money that the Cowboys gave Dak Prescott,

1361
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: or about all the money that the Browns gave the

1362
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: Sean Watson and that guy can't even stay healthy get out.

1363
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,959
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna been so how many games now?

1364
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 3: And I mean, really is that guy making the Browns

1365
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: that much better than when Baker Mayfield had him in

1366
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: the playoffs. It's you gotta be careful which quarterbacks should

1367
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: give all this money to to make sure that they're

1368
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: the real deal.

1369
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: So I know it's easy for me to say this,

1370
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: and I do want to get to Sega here momentarily,

1371
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: but like, I think San Francisco kind of has the

1372
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: blueprint and and you know, and I think if they

1373
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: had the right guy, and maybe Brock Purdy is it,

1374
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: maybe they will pay him. But it just feels like

1375
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: they kind of figured it out with Jimmy g Is like,

1376
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: don't overspend, don't give a guy the bag, and then

1377
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: you can pay everybody else.

1378
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 3: You can pay Nick Bose guy. Well, no, just I'm

1379
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: just gonna u W. You know, we we say, well,

1380
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: don't pay them, and okay, you're gonna lose your quarterback.

1381
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: What do you do. Let's say you're the Miami Dolphins.

1382
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: They're the most interesting one because they picked up the

1383
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: one year option on him, so he's gonna be a

1384
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: free agent after this year. Do you give him? Do

1385
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: you give Tua the big contract? Does he deserve now?

1386
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: Because he had good stats last year until he got hurt.

1387
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: If he could stay healthy this year without kidding the

1388
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: concussions and they're off to a good start, how much

1389
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: does he deserve in what one good year? Thirty five

1390
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 3: forty million a year? You tell me, do you feel

1391
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: comfortable in giving somebody like to all that money? I'll

1392
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: tell you what.

1393
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: Arnie Well, come back and we will discuss that. You're

1394
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: the Dolphins insider, so we got to get your thoughts

1395
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 2: on it. We'll discuss Tua the Dolphins. They're incredible this year.

1396
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: That's next. But before we do, let's toss it over

1397
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: the news desk. Steve to saga, what is trending?

1398
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: My friend?

1399
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 4: Well? Notre Dame dominated tenth ranked USC and college football

1400
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 4: tonight forty eight to twenty, sacking Caleb Williams six times.

1401
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 4: Williams through three interceptions in the first to have number

1402
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 4: seven Washington beat number eight ranked Oregon thirty six thirty

1403
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: three as the Oregon Ducks missed a forty three yard

1404
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 4: field goal attempt on the final play. Alabama edged Arkansas

1405
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 4: pitt upset Louisville. Did you see Louisville last week and

1406
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: storming the field and undefeated this season?

1407
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they must have forgot how to do that.

1408
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 4: This week, Pittsburgh was one and four. This was one

1409
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 4: of those CW games that the ACC has now and

1410
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: it turned into what upset pitt was seventeen straight points

1411
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 4: in the third quarter, including a pick six. Here we

1412
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 4: talked about Notre Dames offense wasn't much, and they wound

1413
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 4: up winning Pitt's offense tonight thirteen drives, twelve first downs,

1414
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: but they got the seventeenth straight points in the third,

1415
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 4: took the lead and won the game. Victories for Oregon

1416
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: State and Utah and the Arizona Wildcats. They won forty

1417
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 4: four to six at nineteenth ranked Washington State.

1418
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 3: We want Michigan, Bring on Michigan.

1419
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 4: That was not the sound of a cougar. That was

1420
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: a that was in Arizona West.

1421
01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: That's right.

1422
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 4: Just for the record, by the way, apparently for Arizona,

1423
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 4: that is their largest ever win against a ranked opponent

1424
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 4: or ties the largest they had beaten up UCLSCL.

1425
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah five, I remember that too.

1426
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was the same.

1427
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 6: I got real drunk after that game, I think. Yeah,

1428
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 6: So that's happened once in the last ten years. Arizona

1429
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 6: fan Oklahoma State b Kansas Missouri was a winner at Kentucky.

1430
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 6: By the way, Georgia and Michigan each one, they are

1431
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 6: still one two in the new AP College Football poll

1432
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 6: for this week, and Georgia is number one for a

1433
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 6: seventeenth straight week. And we'll see bet tomorrow, but the

1434
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 6: record is thirty three straight weeks at number one by

1435
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 6: usc about twenty years ago. Jets defensive back Sauce Gardner

1436
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 6: is out tomorrow with a concussion. The Jets will be

1437
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 6: hosting five and oh Philadelphia. Baseball's ALCS starts Sunday night

1438
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 6: on Fox TV Texas at Houston. In the NHL fourteen

1439
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 6: games including the Toronto victory as Austin Matthews has back

1440
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 6: to back hat tricks to start the season Toronto seven

1441
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 6: to four over Minnesota, victories for Pittsburgh and Boston, wins

1442
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 6: for Winnipeg and Ottawa as well. The NBA preseason had

1443
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 6: three games tonight, including a Utah victory over Portland one

1444
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 6: thirty eight one thirty three. The NBA regular season starts

1445
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 6: on Tuesday, October twenty fourth. US men's soccer was in

1446
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 6: Connecticut today, losing to Germany in an exhibition three to one.

1447
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 6: Christian Polisics scored in the first half, Germany outshot them

1448
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 6: nineteen to six. On Tuesday, the US will be in

1449
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 6: Nashville against Ghana, while Germany plays Mexico in Philadelphia and

1450
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 6: brooks Keepka leads the live golf event in Saudi Arabia

1451
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 6: by three strokes after shooting a sixty two today. This

1452
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 6: is the final individual event this year on that tour.

1453
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 6: The team championship is next week in Florida. There are

1454
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 6: two late games in college football. San Diego State in

1455
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 6: the Mountain West was leading at Hawaii seventeen nothing. It's

1456
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 6: now seventeen fourteen at the half wow. And also in

1457
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 6: that conference on FS one in the third quarter, it

1458
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 6: is Boise State seventeen seven leaders at Colorado State.

1459
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox

1460
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air, Torres and Arnie Spanier

1461
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: in for Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot

1462
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: Com studios to say your way back in just a

1463
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: few minutes with his extended update. But Arnie, you know

1464
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 2: I didn't even have it on the rundown, but I

1465
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: did actually want to ask you about your Miami football

1466
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: Dolphins because they are certainly they're like the most entertaining

1467
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: team in the league. I had this theory too, Arney.

1468
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: By the way, I think they're the most easy to

1469
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: root for a team in the NFL. And let me

1470
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: explain why. No offense, But they have been good in forever,

1471
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: like nobody remembers them being good. And it's kind of

1472
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: to your point, Tua has been through so much that

1473
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: if you're not a Dolphins fan, how can you not

1474
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: possibly root for that guy? I know, by the way,

1475
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 2: they're a fun watch, Like it's not like they're, uh,

1476
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: you know whatever, defense first, and they win every game,

1477
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: you know, right, thirteen to seven, Like they're fun to watch.

1478
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: Tua is an easy he got a root for. Mike

1479
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: McDaniel seems like an easy gotta root for, and that

1480
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: been good in forever, so there's no like, you know, uh,

1481
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: people getting tired of them. But what like so, I

1482
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: guess it's a two part question as a Dolphins fan,

1483
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: how much have you enjoyed this season? But is there

1484
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: that thing in the back of your head where it's

1485
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: like I love this and I and by the way,

1486
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: nobody's wishing ill will on Tua, but we know his

1487
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 2: history and obviously that's always going to be a concern

1488
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: with them.

1489
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: It is always going to be a concern. Now this

1490
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: year has been fantastic. Hopefully he's gonna be able to

1491
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: stay healthy. Dolphins do have some injury problems now. A

1492
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 3: Shane is going to be out for what is it

1493
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: like three four weeks or something to that effect, So

1494
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 3: we'll see how that's gonna go. Obviously, they had the

1495
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: injury to Jalen that was before the season started. Art

1496
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: At the cornerback, they had the signed Eli Apple. But

1497
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 3: a couple of things. One, I would give two of

1498
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: the money. I think he was putting up pretty good

1499
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 3: numbers before he went out with the concussion. He's doing

1500
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: the same thing this year. They're like one of the

1501
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 3: most exciting teams offensively. Yes, he does have weapons around him,

1502
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 3: but he has made them into this great offensive juggernaut.

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 3: So I think I would give him the money and

1504
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: give him the long term extension. That's when I would

1505
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 3: work it there. As for the Dolphins, you know, right

1506
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: now it looks like they've got hold of the AFSC East.

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 3: Even though they lost to the Bills, they get even

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: with them when they go to Miami. They have a

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 3: game against Kansas City and that's not a neutral site

1510
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 3: in what is that in Germany? I believe coming up

1511
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 3: in about three four weeks or something to that effect,

1512
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: and I think they have an easier schedule than them

1513
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 3: the rest of the way. Dolphins get that number one seed.

1514
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: I can easily see them going to a super Bowl.

1515
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 3: They have to sure up that defense, though I'm a

1516
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 3: little worried about that, but I think it will get

1517
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: much better as the year goes on, as they start

1518
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 3: getting people back. But offensively, they've got too much speed.

1519
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: Their receivers are just deadly. They're gonna be tough to stop.

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 3: I just I said before the year they were gonna

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01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 3: go fourteen to three. They may be exactly out of

1522
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 3: fourteen to three base What made you confident they were

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 3: gonna go fourteenth? I thought Buffalo on the Road, Kansas City,

1524
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 3: and maybe I forget the last one.

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: Was Dalra they play at Philly in a couple weeks.

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01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: That was at Philly, So I said, okay, I have

1527
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: three losses there when they got out to a good

1528
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 3: startup like undefeated. But no that you know, fourteen to

1529
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 3: three is a pretty damn good record anyway, So I

1530
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 3: feel confident with the way they look right now.

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01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think if you're them, obviously because of two.

1532
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, injuries happen everywhere. That's not to say

1533
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: that you know they can't happen anywhere, but because of him,

1534
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: you probably do want that number one seed more than

1535
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: pretty much anybody else. And it's interesting, right, you know,

1536
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: It's so funny, like we spend so much time talking

1537
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: in the preseason, and I think we all thought, Okay,

1538
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: maybe Buffalo is not quite as good as we thought.

1539
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: I get that we all thought the Jets were gonna be,

1540
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: you know, much improved with Aaron Rodgers. But you know,

1541
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: Casey right now, yes, they're five and one, but they

1542
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: have not looked great. Like it feels like that number

1543
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: one seed is there for the taking.

1544
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 3: I would take Miami over Kansas City right now if

1545
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: they're I'm saying, but yeah, playing head to headed neutral

1546
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: site game and the game was a pickup, I'd be

1547
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 3: bet Miami in that game.

1548
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, And we didn't talk about the Thursday

1549
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: night game, but really quick, what was your take? Because

1550
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City wins, Denver's a mess. But you know, I

1551
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: you know, and it's coming off the Sunday night game

1552
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: where the offense didn't look great for Kansas City either

1553
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. I'm just it's not like there's

1554
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: something wrong, but I just they're just not as explosive

1555
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: as they have been in years pass. And I was

1556
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: one of those guys after they lost Tyreek Hill last year,

1557
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: after they traded him to Miami and they didn't miss

1558
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: a beat, I was like, oh, you know, you could

1559
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: just plug in anybody there and they'll be fine. That

1560
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: offense doesn't look nearly as good to me this year.

1561
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: No, not.

1562
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: They put up nineteen points against the Broncos. Dolphins put

1563
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 3: up on a seventy burger. I mean, yeah, there's a

1564
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 3: big difference between putting up seventy and putting up nineteen.

1565
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: Where's this Kansas City dynamic offense that we've heard so

1566
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 3: much about for over these years. They still have Kelsey Pacheco.

1567
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 3: He certainly is a good replacement for Clyde Hlayer, So

1568
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 3: you know what's the problem here. I mean, yes, they

1569
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 3: lose Tyreek Hill, but they didn't have him last year,

1570
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: so I'm they should have been able to replace him.

1571
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm shocked that their offense looks so mediocre. In Pedestrian

1572
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 3: nineteen points against the Broncos. That's shameful. To be honest with.

1573
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: You, I don't disagree. And even though they're five and one,

1574
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, listen, it's not it's not as though you

1575
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: know the sky is falling. But I just I do

1576
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: feel like I probably have less confidence in them than

1577
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:33,520
Speaker 2: I've had in quite.

1578
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 3: Some They won't win a playoff game if they put

1579
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: up nineteen points, especially against the likes of the Denver

1580
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: Broncos for crying out loud.

1581
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean you look at the teams that

1582
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: they could face. I mean, you know, if Miami wins

1583
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,480
Speaker 2: the division, that means that Buffalo will be a wildcard,

1584
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: you know, depending on how the AFC North trends. I mean,

1585
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: I know people were kind of giving up on Cincinnati,

1586
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: but is there a scenario where Cincinnati could end up

1587
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: with a wildcard maybe Baltimore depends.

1588
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: Cincinnati's done. They're little run is over.

1589
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: They're not Wow, they're little runners.

1590
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: It's not happening for them this year. Sorry, Cincinnati fans.

1591
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: They're not getting it done, all right.

1592
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: That is stinking genius one Cincinnati fans. By the way,

1593
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: you could tweet at us at Aaron Underscore Torres at

1594
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: stinking genius. One tell you what though, Arnie. When we

1595
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: come back, do want to bring into Sager give us

1596
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: his extended update, as he does every Saturday at about

1597
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: twelve forty five Eastern into Sunday morning to Saga will

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: join us next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox

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Speaker 2: Saturday night into Sunday, tossing over the news desk to

1606
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 2: Saga with his extended update.

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Speaker 3: Disaga, the floor is.

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Speaker 4: Yours, guys. Are a reminder about the college football rankings,

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 4: the one that counts from the playoff Committee. They start

1610
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 4: at the end of this month, in fact, Halloween night,

1611
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 4: and every Tuesday night after that through November. The new

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01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 4: rankings will keep coming out and then we'll have Selection

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01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 4: Sunday for college football on the first Sunday of December.

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 4: The Iowa Hawkeyes today led seven to six in the

1615
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: fourth quarter at Wisconsin fifteen to six the final, the

1616
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 4: Hawkeyes are six and one. They got two field goals

1617
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 4: and a safety in the fourth quarter. And I found

1618
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 4: the stat from the Athletic Matt Brown. Since Kirk ference

1619
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 4: took over as head coach at Iowa, his program, when

1620
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: scoring only fifteen points or fewer has still won twelve

1621
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 4: times since them.

1622
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 3: Paris in Parising. I could if you're a fan of that,

1623
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: how could you even want to go to games like that?

1624
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 3: My niece just started at the University of Wisconsin. I

1625
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: am bored the tears watching those games. It's horrible.

1626
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, six and one the Iowa hawk eyez. So

1627
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 4: you need to know, by the way, that this ties

1628
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 4: Georgia for the most set wins in that spin. You

1629
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 4: score fifteen and still get a victory. In college football,

1630
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 4: Florida State with Florida excuse me, with a comeback win

1631
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 4: tonight and Florida State very much looked like at least

1632
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 4: the fourth best team in the country today. Yeah, the

1633
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 4: Seminoles led ten to three against Syracuse second quarter, but

1634
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,879
Speaker 4: forty one to three is the final and Keon Coleman

1635
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 4: was great again for FSU nine catches one hundred forty

1636
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 4: yards in a touchdown.

1637
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: They get their brains beat out by Michigan if they

1638
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 3: played them.

1639
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll discuss that at the top of next hour.

1640
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 4: Might be happening. The Florida Gators only have one conference

1641
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 4: loss and they are five and two now after the

1642
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 4: comeback win at South Carolina tonight forty one thirty nine.

1643
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 4: We talked about Wisconsin earlier. Graham Mertz is the Gators quarterback.

1644
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 4: He threw for over four hundred and twenty yards tonight.

1645
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 4: He'd only thrown for three hundred onnths before. James Madison

1646
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 4: is six and oh. They're in the Sun Belt Conference now.

1647
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 4: They're an FBS school. They dominated Georgia Southern today, but

1648
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 4: they're not going to the postseason because the NCAA rule

1649
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 4: is your first two years up in FBS you can't

1650
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 4: go to the postseason. Troy won nineteen to nothing at Army.

1651
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 4: Army was one of the very few independents in college

1652
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 4: football still at FBS. Connecticut is another one.

1653
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Belichick, we go back to a school like

1654
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 3: Army or something.

1655
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: Hey, he's a Navy guy. Bite your tongue. Absolutely Notre

1656
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 4: Dame an independent one easily tonight. And U Mass is

1657
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 4: an independent and still fielding a football team, but they've

1658
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: lost seven in a row. They're still awful. And they

1659
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 4: played at number six Penn State today. It was sixty

1660
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 4: three to nothing for the Nidney Allons. And how about this.

1661
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 4: U Mass finished the day with ten punts and nine

1662
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 4: first downs. Wow, nine first downs and Penn State meanwhile

1663
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 4: had nine touchdowns. That was actually mentioned when they showed

1664
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 4: a highlight today is doctor j was probably embarrassed? Yes, wow,

1665
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 4: you mass alum. University of Massachusetts allowed two touchdowns today

1666
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 4: on punt returns. They only had forty five yards passing

1667
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 4: for the day. And it's not like it's one of

1668
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 4: these run only offenses. They had one hundred and nine

1669
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 4: total yards in the game.

1670
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: I thought you say they only had forty five people

1671
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 3: playing today.

1672
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 4: Well I didn't slip over there. That may have been

1673
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 4: the case. Next Saturday on Fox TV, Penn State at

1674
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 4: Ohio State noon Eastern time. Ohio State was a forty

1675
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 4: one seven winner at Purdue today, and we mentioned briefly

1676
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 4: on the show and talked about it a lot last

1677
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 4: weekend when it happened the Miami Hurricanes somehow still ranked,

1678
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 4: not after tonight when they lost at North Carolina, but

1679
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 4: last Saturday. They failed to take a knee with about

1680
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 4: thirty seconds left, ran a play, fumbled instead. Georgia Tech

1681
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 4: recovered and then drove for the win. Miami was actually

1682
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 4: leading tonight at undefeated North Carolina. Late in the first half,

1683
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 4: tar Heels decided to go for it on a fourth

1684
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 4: and one from the Miami twenty. Apparently, though on the defense,

1685
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 4: the Hurricanes didn't have the proper personnel on the field

1686
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,839
Speaker 4: ABC with the call.

1687
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: Going fourth down here Miami us struggling to get met

1688
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: off the field and.

1689
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 3: The Miami coaches way out on the sideline in a

1690
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 3: flying thrown on last yeary what is he doing? I

1691
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 3: mean it came almost all the way out to the

1692
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 3: nash marks.

1693
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 4: So it's fourth and one for your opponent, and that

1694
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 4: fifteen yard penalty more of it enough for a first

1695
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 4: down for the tar Heels. They capitalize, get a touchdown, run,

1696
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: tie the game near halftime, and eventually tar Heels win

1697
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 4: forty one thirty one. In addition to that, Hurricanes had

1698
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 4: four turnovers in this game. Embarrassing, very embarrassing, And have

1699
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 4: we mentioned. The Arizona Wildcats were dominant fashion tonight at

1700
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 4: nineteenth ranked Washington State forty four to six. Wildcats were

1701
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 4: down six to nothing in the opening minutes and that

1702
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 4: was that. Arizona was only three and three coming in.

1703
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 4: But that includes the three overtime loss at USC twenty

1704
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 4: five would you please overtime loss at Mississippi State this

1705
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 4: year a lost to Washington as well Arizona's off next week.

1706
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 4: Washington State as a team tonight was held to twenty

1707
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 4: two carries thirty five yards rushing. Cougar's had three turnovers. Again,

1708
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 4: they were ranked in the top twenty coming in as

1709
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 4: a swarm after the first Yeah, Teddy Brusky on the

1710
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 4: field tonight after the first drive, Wazo had ten drives

1711
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: and just eight first downs, very impressive. The game of

1712
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Speaker 4: the day Washington edging Oregon thirty six thirty three, and

1713
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 4: the Huskies have a future NFL wide receiver Rome Adunse,

1714
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Speaker 4: who had eight receptions one hundred and twenty eight yards

1715
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 4: two touchdowns. The Pac twelve led the week with seven

1716
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Speaker 4: ranked teams out of the top twenty five. Next Saturday

1717
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 4: night is the late game on FS one. Washington hosts

1718
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 4: Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

1720
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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Aaron Torres, Arnie Spaniard in for Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: He on a Saturday night Sunday morning, depending where you

1722
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: are coming up, we go back to college football. Arnie,

1723
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question. Yeah, who's actually

1724
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 2: number one? And you better not say the Arizona Wildcats.

1725
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next preview the full week six NFL slate.

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Speaker 3: That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: That's doing a damn thing. I'm a little warrior. I'm

1743
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: a little mad tomorrow because she's working out tomorrow. Usually

1744
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:07,920
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1745
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1746
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Speaker 2: up a half an hour early so you can watch

1747
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Speaker 3: So gotta get up, bro. By the way, one thing

1749
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 3: we didn't talk about, wh when we were talking about

1750
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: college football. Sure, uh did you see all the tweets

1751
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 3: coming in on the Notre Dame game? How people were

1752
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 3: just ripping the broadcast, ripping the announcers what was it?

1753
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 3: Jack Collinsworth and Jason Garrett saying they were unemotional and

1754
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: it was just boring and bad, bad sound, and the

1755
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: broadcast didn't come off good. It was just all kinds

1756
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 3: of stuff on that.

1757
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm a little confused about that because they spend a

1758
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: lot of money on Todd black It's not my business.

1759
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't really care what other business, you know, what

1760
01:21:54,240 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: other companies do. But like Todd Blackledge and and Eagles

1761
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: Son are there go to you know, kind of number

1762
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: one booth and it's like I just don't really understand,

1763
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: like essentially where they were today. I don't think there

1764
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: was a second game on their airwaves. That was the

1765
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: big game. It was USC Notre Dame, so.

1766
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 3: Right, I look, I don't know, and I don't know

1767
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: how they decided that Jack Collins worth it. By the way,

1768
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 3: does he do a lot of Does he have a

1769
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 3: history of play by play? I don't know. I know

1770
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 3: I've seen him on that NBC show. I'm not sure

1771
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 3: what his background is. And I'm not gonna start the

1772
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 3: nepotism and all that stuff, but he just doesn't do

1773
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: it for me. I don't say, WHOA, this guy's really

1774
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 3: got it, you know, like like you know some of

1775
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 3: the other young play by play announcers out there.

1776
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, And you know, not to nerd

1777
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: out too much on this, but listen, you know, I mean,

1778
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: I know Notre Dame. They've they've had the Notre Dame

1779
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: contract for years, but they spent a lot of money

1780
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 2: on the Big Ten. So I think to Sega just

1781
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,919
Speaker 2: brought up they had the Illinois Maryland game. So apparently

1782
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it's maybe it's contractual with with the

1783
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: Big Ten. They sent their number one crew to that game,

1784
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: which is an abomination because.

1785
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 3: I could have done that game game.

1786
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure probably it's in the contract that

1787
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: they have to the Big ten game has to get

1788
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: the number one crew. I would think that because there's

1789
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: no other reason, because you know, Notre Dame USC was

1790
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 2: gonna do a bigger rating. But I'll be honest, listen,

1791
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 2: it's not my play. Like I don't really care what

1792
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: other networks do, and I, you know, whatever our I

1793
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: don't really care what our network does.

1794
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's it's way above my pay grade.

1795
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 2: But I just bring it up because like that was

1796
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: probably gonna be the highest rated game of the day.

1797
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: Maybe Oregon Washington topped it, but Notre Dame USC is

1798
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: essentially the highest rated game of the day. And I

1799
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 2: tend to agree. It's like, if you're gonna spend hundreds

1800
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars to for the right to broadcast

1801
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 2: these games, Notre Dame Football, Big ten Football, I would

1802
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: think that you would put more money into the quality

1803
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: of the broadcast crew. But what do I know, Maybe

1804
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: I'm wrong.

1805
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you at least you have to give me a

1806
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 3: little bit pumped up a little bit excited. You know, Look,

1807
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: I know each play by play guy has their own

1808
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 3: type of style and how they want to do and

1809
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 3: all that, and usually it doesn't make a difference to me.

1810
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 3: I'm so wrapped up in the game, Aaron that I

1811
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 3: really it could be a ten year old calling the game.

1812
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: It's not going to upset me. You know, it doesn't

1813
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 3: bother me at all. I'm just all caught up in

1814
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 3: the game. But they just I just I'm not sure

1815
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 3: how they go about picking who does the play by play,

1816
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 3: which color analysts they use, and how they assign the

1817
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 3: games out there, but they they really dropped the ball

1818
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: on this one. So many complaints on Twitter. It's it's

1819
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 3: just outrage all over the place. Yeah, I was one.

1820
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 2: I was just saying, you know, listen, again, it's not

1821
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: my prerogative, but you put in whoever you want?

1822
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 3: Is it Jack college Worth? Is that why you're upset

1823
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 3: or what.

1824
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: I was upset because the broadcast was mediocre. It was

1825
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: it was Jack collins Worth and Jason Garrett, And like again,

1826
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: they could put on whoever they want. I just think that,

1827
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: you know, the audience for a game that big deserves better.

1828
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: But again, you know, I guess there's only so many

1829
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: good broadcasters out there and whatever. So I just didn't

1830
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: think the quality was very good, that's all.

1831
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: So oh everybody was good. There was a lot of complaints.

1832
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 3: I mean they were, they were bombarding Twitter, people were

1833
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: agreeing with them. To me, I wouldn't even have noticed

1834
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 3: it had I had not gone to the Twitter and

1835
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 3: started reading all the negative comments.

1836
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: I just didn't feel like a big game crew, like

1837
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: you know, like listen, I know a lot of these

1838
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 2: guys have retired, but you know, Brent Musburger feels big,

1839
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: Herb Street feels big, you know, like like for Lunquist

1840
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: back in the day, Brad Nessler. I mean, you know,

1841
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,879
Speaker 2: when it's an important game, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman,

1842
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 2: and this just for a game of that magnitude, USC

1843
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 2: is undefeated, Notre Dames in the top twenty five, there's

1844
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: a lot at stake. It just it was a very

1845
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,440
Speaker 2: underwhelming group. But again, my guess is that probably contractually

1846
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: the Big Ten has required NBC to put their number

1847
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: one team on the Big Ten Game, and so I

1848
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: think that's how we ended up there really quickly.

1849
01:25:59,360 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 3: Arnie.

1850
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: You know one thing that Jason and I have started

1851
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: to do in this ten o'clock time slot is ten

1852
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: o'clock Pacific, one o'clock Eastern, as we reset the day

1853
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: in college football. The Big Game was obviously not only

1854
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 2: not to day in beating USC but Washington beating Oregon.

1855
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: But it brings up an interesting conversation because disager last

1856
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 2: segment was kind of running through some of the scores.

1857
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: Florida State beat Syracuse and in your army span, your

1858
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: you know, grumble voice, ah, Michigan would beat them by

1859
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: forty five points. And so my question is, you know,

1860
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: in a year where there are so many, so many,

1861
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 2: so many, so many good teams, Washington taking care of Oregon.

1862
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: I don't think just because Oregon lost it means they're

1863
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: clearly the inferior team. They lost on a last second

1864
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: field goal that they missed would have tied the game

1865
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:45,440
Speaker 2: sent at overtime.

1866
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 3: Anyway, Michigan is awesome.

1867
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: Georgia has not lost yet, Penn State, Ohio State have

1868
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: not lost yet, Oklahoma's a control in the Big twelve,

1869
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: Florida State undefeated in the ACC. If I told you

1870
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: today the best team in college football is, what would

1871
01:26:59,280 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: your answer be?

1872
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 3: I'd probably say Michigan would be my answer. I would say, yeah,

1873
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 3: I think they're probably the best team on both sides

1874
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 3: of the football. I mean, I do have concerns but

1875
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 3: about them, and you know, especially with the way they

1876
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 3: get started off, I do have concerns quarterback wise also.

1877
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 3: But Georgia and Bowers, I mean, Mike goodness, did you

1878
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 3: see him today? The tight end got hurt. I mean,

1879
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 3: he's like their big man there should be okay, but

1880
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 3: that was a little scary. I'm saying to myself, my goodness,

1881
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 3: if this guy was gone for any period of time,

1882
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 3: that's a blow of George out there. Georgia kind of

1883
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 3: scares me. They haven't been as dominant as I thought

1884
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 3: they should be. Even when they played Vanderbilt today. They won,

1885
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 3: and you know, they still won by about eighteen points

1886
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 3: or something, but they should win by a lot more.

1887
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 3: They've had some tough games too. I think what was

1888
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 3: the South Carolina game I believe was one of them.

1889
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 3: But right now, I would say Michigan would be one,

1890
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 3: and I certainly would have Ohio state Georgia probably four

1891
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 3: to state Washington. Would you put Washington up there? I

1892
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 3: have Oklahoma probably over Washington, though I think Oklahoma is

1893
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 3: kind of getting underrated right now. Also after that victory

1894
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 3: against Texas.

1895
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 2: I'll say this, so, first of all, I actually agree

1896
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: with you. I would put Michigan at number one. And

1897
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 2: I know there's a contingent. There's really two arguments.

1898
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: There's one.

1899
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: There's people say, well, you know, if Georgia starts number

1900
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: one and they haven't lost, they shouldn't drop.

1901
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 3: I don't buy that at all.

1902
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 2: Like I just if we're gonna rank teams of the preseason,

1903
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: we should change based on results.

1904
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: I know that. Whatever.

1905
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, in their biggest game they destroyed Kentucky,

1906
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: which lost again tonight.

1907
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 3: It's worth noting. But the official rankings haven't started anyway,

1908
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: so it doesn't make it difference.

1909
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: Well, the AP is like an official ranking, its garbage,

1910
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: you know. So the other argument against Michigan is well

1911
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: they haven't played anybody, and like that is true, Arnie.

1912
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Their schedule so far, here as their schedule, East Carolina

1913
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: at home, UNLV at home, Bowling Grade at home, Rutgers

1914
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 2: at home, at Nebraska, at Minnesota at Indiana at home.

1915
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: That's not a good schedule. Here would be my counter

1916
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 2: to that, Arnie. The final scores of Michigan's games so

1917
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: far this year thirty to three, thirty five to seven,

1918
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 2: thirty one to six, thirty one to seven, forty five

1919
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: to seven, fifty two to ten, fifty two to seven.

1920
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 3: The only good team they played on that was Rutgers,

1921
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 3: and Rutgers a pretty decent team at least record wise,

1922
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 3: but they've had That's about the easiest schedule I've ever

1923
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 3: seen in my life. They only played two games that

1924
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 3: are tough this year. It's depends date game and the

1925
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: Ohio State game, so that's uh, those are gonna be,

1926
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 3: and of course the championship of the conference, So those

1927
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 3: are the gonna be the three tough games for Michigan.

1928
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 3: When it's pushing and shoven, we'll have to see, you know,

1929
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 3: when when you're not in a close game and you

1930
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: get in one all of a sudden, it's a little

1931
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 3: bit tougher than some of the teams.

1932
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Let me say this though, Yeah I get that argument,

1933
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily disagree with it. But my counter

1934
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: to that would be, you say, well, if you're never

1935
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 2: in a close game, but we watch bad teams play

1936
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: good teams close all the time, doesn't Michigan deserve credit

1937
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 2: for absolutely destroying every single team that they played. Like,

1938
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at you know what, you know,

1939
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: even Washington they no disrespect, but they could. It was

1940
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: a one touchdown game against Arizona last week or two

1941
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Oregon almost lost to Texas Tech. You know,

1942
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: George just struggled, you know with who was it Auburn

1943
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago on the road. Like, shouldn't Michigan

1944
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 2: get some credit for absolutely destroying everybody that they've played?

1945
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 3: But there's three touchdowns better than all those teams anyway.

1946
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 2: But Georgia was a three touchdown favorite against Auburn and

1947
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 2: they held on to win by a touchdown.

1948
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but again that's a little bit different

1949
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 3: because I mean, I think some of those did was

1950
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 3: I think some of those teams down there in the

1951
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 3: South are better than like the Bowling Greens, the unl vs,

1952
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 3: the Nebraska's of the world, the Minnesota's of the world,

1953
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 3: Indiana World thirty today to LSU. Yeah, look, they're not

1954
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 3: a great team, but they're certainly more palatable than some

1955
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 3: of the teams I just gave you out there. It

1956
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 3: was an easy it's an easy run for Michigan this year.

1957
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 3: Even Michigan State isn't going to be a tough game

1958
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 3: for them either, you know.

1959
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Michigan State's really bad. Yeah, and that's it,

1960
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 2: and that's what sucks about Michigan. I'm I think they

1961
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 2: are the best team that I've seen, and I think

1962
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 2: they should get credit for destroying everybody, even if the

1963
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 2: schedule sucks. But I know it is also a bummer

1964
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: that there that we're really not going to see them

1965
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: tested in theory until probably Pence into November. Yeah, and

1966
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 2: not even like November, like the middle of November. So

1967
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: they for people who don't know their schedule, they play

1968
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 2: at Michigan State next week, then they have a bye,

1969
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 2: then they play Purdue, then it's Penn State. So we're

1970
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: still four weekends away from them playing what should be

1971
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 2: a top twenty five team. I mean, unless Penn State

1972
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 2: melts down, that'll be a top twenty five team, maybe

1973
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: a top ten.

1974
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 3: Maybe the last game of the year against Ohio State,

1975
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 3: which is going to be Oh did they play them

1976
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 3: on the last game this year? Yeah? Yeah, I had

1977
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 3: no idea. No, I'm kidding.

1978
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: Penn State, by the way, plays Ohio State next week,

1979
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 2: so we will you know, we'll we'll, we'll have a

1980
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 2: better feel for that part of the equation without Michigan.

1981
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 2: It's a bummer that Michigan doesn't deserve that Michigan doesn't

1982
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 2: play anybody better, and it's hard to know. So I

1983
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 2: just I think it's I still think they should get

1984
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: credit for destroying everybody really quick.

1985
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said.

1986
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: That Washington would be behind several teams, despite what you

1987
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: could argue is one of the most impressive wins of

1988
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 2: the season tonight against Earth, this afternoon against Oregon. Why

1989
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: would you put Washington behind a couple different teams?

1990
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, and I do like Washington, but I mean,

1991
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 3: just to be fair about the whole thing, I couldn't

1992
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 3: put him ahead of Georgia or Michigan or any of

1993
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 3: those teams out there. Matter of fact, I mean, if

1994
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 3: you look at Washington's schedule, I mean, Boise and Tulsa

1995
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 3: is a little bit of an upgrade. But other than that,

1996
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 3: I mean today's victory against Oregon, and yes they did

1997
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 3: beat my Wildcats. They you know, they haven't had really

1998
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 3: that tough of a scheduled. Michigan State we thought we're

1999
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 3: going to be better at the time, so they got

2000
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 3: lucky there. I just can't put him unless they they

2001
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, after the Oregon game, maybe people are gonna

2002
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 3: want to put them up there because that was a

2003
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 3: signature victory. But right now I would still have him

2004
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 3: just on the outside look it in. I can't put

2005
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,799
Speaker 3: him in yet. Yeah, I get the argument.

2006
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: I will say that Oregon win is on paper more

2007
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 2: impressive than anything that, you know, anything that that Michigan

2008
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 2: or Georgia has done so far. I'm not here to

2009
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 2: like super argue against it. I just I sit there

2010
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: and say, like, you know, that win today was really impressive.

2011
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 2: But I would also counter that by saying that Oregon

2012
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 2: had a chance at the buzzer to kick a game

2013
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,839
Speaker 2: tying field goal that would have sent it to overtime.

2014
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Would we feel different if Washington lost? But Washington credit

2015
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: to them. They take care of business against Oregon. And

2016
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 2: I'm with you if if I had to vote, Michigan's

2017
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 2: the best team that I have seen, but doesn't mean

2018
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 2: that they're necessarily the best team in college football. And

2019
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 2: the good thing is we get to settle it all

2020
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,879
Speaker 2: on the field. Michigan again plays Penn State and Ohio

2021
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 2: State in November.

2022
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 3: I looking for Washington coming up against USC in a

2023
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. Also, I'm looking forward to that though. Yeah,

2024
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 3: that's kind of lost its cluster a little bit with

2025
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 3: USC losing like that real quick.

2026
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 2: You did send this to me? Is that true? Caleb

2027
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 2: Williams is now down to fifty to one in the

2028
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 2: Heisman odds.

2029
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 3: I think so that is incredible. I mean because of

2030
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 3: one game. I mean, that's that's insane. To go from

2031
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 3: one of the favorites to fifty to one, that's crazy. Yeah,

2032
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 3: so he was right.

2033
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 2: I think Pennix was technically the leader going into today,

2034
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: but I think he you know, Caleb Williams wasn't far behind,

2035
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 2: and according to a tweet you sent me, it appears

2036
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 2: as though he is now fifty to one. At the

2037
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 2: fan duel Sport Sanders.

2038
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 3: Sanders had to be top five, right, I have to

2039
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 3: think some point, at some earlier point.

2040
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,759
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, as of right now, it would be Michael

2041
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: Pennix one, JJ McCarthy two, Dylan Gabriel three, Jaden Daniels four,

2042
01:34:55,720 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Travis five. I'll say this, Jayden Daniels from LSU,

2043
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 2: He's not gonna win it because they have two losses

2044
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: they'd have four losses right now withot him, he has

2045
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 2: been unbelievable. He had another like three hundred and fifty

2046
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: yards three touchdowns today LSU puts.

2047
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 3: Up forty eight points.

2048
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,000
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2055
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll get back to the NFL

2056
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 2: and we will preview the big games here in Week

2057
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 2: six in the NFL. That is next. Fox Sports Radio,

2058
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio erin Torus.

2059
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 2: Arnie Spaniard in for Jason Martin tonight. Jason will be

2060
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 2: back next week. He's on a much deserved getaway with

2061
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 2: his family. Arnie Spanier in with me till at the

2062
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: top of the hour, and Arnie, we're doing something a

2063
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 2: little different these days.

2064
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we're gonna do.

2065
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 2: We want to talk about Week six of the NFL.

2066
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 2: Fun Week Ahead what we'll do is we'll bring in

2067
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 2: producer Pat Paddle to us up and we'll talk about

2068
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 2: these games. So, producer Pat, what is the first game

2069
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 2: that we're gonna be talking about?

2070
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 3: All right, Aaron and Arnie?

2071
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 7: The first game we're gonna go starting off hot, We're

2072
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 7: gonna go with the San Francisco forty nine ers at

2073
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns. Now, this one is the line right

2074
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 7: now is San Francisco is favored nine and a half points,

2075
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 7: which you know is pretty much a blowout. There is

2076
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 7: some wind. High Wind's gonna be at the game tomorrow,

2077
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 7: so it might be pretty close, but right now it's

2078
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 7: nine and a half. Aaron, why don't start us off?

2079
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 4: Who do you think? And who you taking?

2080
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 2: Really quickly before we get into it, Arnie, what do

2081
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 2: you make of this?

2082
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: Hole?

2083
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: To Sean Watson cleared to play, won't play?

2084
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 3: What do you make of that? Yeah? I mean, you

2085
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 3: know your body better than anybody else. I figure if

2086
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 3: he was healthy enough to get out there, he would.

2087
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna miss too many more games,

2088
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 3: so I think it's just gonna be one more. But

2089
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 3: this certainly puts the Browns, I mean behind the eight ball,

2090
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 3: especially when San Francisco come into town. You know, I

2091
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 3: love all the brock Party talk too. I don't know

2092
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 3: what he's got to do to get everybody's respect. I

2093
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 3: agree later, it's got to get to the point where

2094
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna either give him a contract or you're not

2095
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 3: gonna give him a contract. They probably are, But if

2096
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 3: this guy was taken in the first or second round,

2097
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 3: we'd have him on a collision course for the Hall

2098
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 3: of Fame. But the fact was he was mister irrelevant.

2099
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 3: We don't give him the time of day. At least

2100
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 3: a lot of us don't give him the tire. Some

2101
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 3: people don't give the time of day. I like him,

2102
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 3: so I'm curious to see I'm just gonna play out

2103
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 3: for him. When it said and done.

2104
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because Jason and I were talking about

2105
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: this last week, and you know, I love Jason, so

2106
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 2: this isn't a criticism. But he said something to the

2107
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 2: effect of, yeah, you know, we still don't really know

2108
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: about brock Party, and I'm like, do we not know?

2109
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 2: Like I just feel like he's just a really good

2110
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. And by the way, it's not as though

2111
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 2: it's unprecedented that guys that go beyond the first round

2112
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: end up being really good. I'm not gonpairing him to

2113
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: the greatest who have ever done it, but we know

2114
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 2: Tom Brady was a sixth rounder. Right Russell Wilson, he's

2115
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 2: falling off a cliff, but he was very good for

2116
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 2: an extended period of time. Dak Prescott, you know, you

2117
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 2: go on and on down the list. It's not unprecedented.

2118
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: I like him, I like the system that he's in,

2119
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 2: I like the coaching staff that he's in. I think

2120
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 2: is a very good quarterback. I think San Francisco wins

2121
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: and San Francisco dominates that game.

2122
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 3: ARNI, I think it's gonna be San Francisco. Also, I

2123
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 3: don't know about the domination. I think it's gonna be

2124
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 3: a little bit closer than people expect, especially because it's

2125
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: in Cleveland and they do have a pretty good defense.

2126
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 3: So I can see it being within one score and

2127
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 3: San Francisco holding on to the win. Very good, Pat,

2128
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 3: what's next? All right?

2129
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 7: We got number two on the list. We got the

2130
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles versus the Jets. Jets are home and the

2131
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 7: line here, guys is Philly favored six and a half,

2132
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 7: especially with two of the Jets lockdown corners out tomorrow,

2133
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 7: so six and a half. Now, let's flip the script here, Arnie,

2134
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 7: who are you taking in this one?

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01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 3: You know, you would think with the Jets having so

2136
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 3: many injuries that line would have certainly hit seven and

2137
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 3: even more than that, that a lot of money would

2138
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 3: be coming out on Philadelphia. But it's not a lot

2139
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 3: of people are back in the Jets on this one.

2140
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 3: I I took them as my pick just to take

2141
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 3: the six and a half points. I'm hoping it's gonna

2142
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 3: be a close game. A lot of people are seeing

2143
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 3: this as maybe a low scoring game, and Philadelphia's offense

2144
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 3: has not really been clicking on all cylinders. I'm thinking

2145
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 3: maybe they Jets keep this one closer. I don't know

2146
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 3: if they pull off the upset, but I think it's

2147
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 3: gonna be another close game there.

2148
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I I agree. You know, Philly was

2149
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 2: one of my picks to make the Super Bowl. They

2150
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 2: were actually my pick to win the Super Bowl. But

2151
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 2: I only bring it up because I don't think that

2152
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 2: offense is fully clicking. And I give so much credit

2153
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: to Robert Sala and that that you know that staff

2154
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 2: is I know you know, listen, it's it's they're not great,

2155
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 2: but they played the the chief so tough. They took

2156
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 2: care of the Denver Broncos last week. I'm just so

2157
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 2: impressed by this group. I mean, I think you know,

2158
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 2: and I'll say this too, Arnie is and I know

2159
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 2: the circumstances were different because of Aaron Rodgers, but when

2160
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 2: I heard the whole, like Robert Solo's coaching for his job,

2161
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I thought if it like went completely

2162
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 2: sideways and they went five and twelve with Aaron Rodgers,

2163
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 2: then yeah, maybe it's a different deal. I've always been

2164
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 2: impressed by Robert Sola. I've always liked Robert Sala. I

2165
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 2: don't I didn't understand why there was so much brushback

2166
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: coming into this year.

2167
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 3: He might have been coaching for his job. Now that

2168
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 3: Rogers has gone for the entire year, it's only fair

2169
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 3: that you're bringing back one more year with Rogers healthy

2170
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 3: and see what he can do. So I think he's

2171
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 3: got one more year after this really quick.

2172
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 2: I know it's a little bit off topic and a

2173
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 2: little bit outdated frankly, but you know, what do you

2174
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 2: make of Rogers? Because I know he did the whole

2175
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, I might be back this year. I'll definitely

2176
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 2: be back next year. And it's like thirty nine years

2177
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: old going on forty achilles.

2178
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm not sold.

2179
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: Like I hope I'm wrong. I think he's gonna try

2180
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 2: to play. I just don't know if we ever see

2181
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 2: him again, let alone one hundred percent.

2182
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 3: Now, he's not coming back this year. It's not going

2183
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 3: to happen. I know we had some special type of

2184
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 3: surgery that was put in, but it's it's too risky

2185
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 3: to come on back and the Jets aren't going to

2186
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 3: be in the thick of things anyway. So why rush

2187
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 3: yourself back when you could just wait till next year?

2188
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Arnie will come back, and we will

2189
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,679
Speaker 2: preview the rest of a loaded week six slate.

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01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 3: Do that next.

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01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 2: Before we do though, for the final time this evening,

2192
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: let's get over the news desk.

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01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 3: Steve de Seger, what is treining?

2194
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 4: My friend? Did you see the article of Sportico about

2195
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers that he signed for all these guaranteed millions

2196
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 4: in the offseason and the Jets have the option to

2197
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 4: take out insurance policies and did not send.

2198
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,719
Speaker 3: Twenty million dollars or something like that, yes, the logic

2199
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 3: against it.

2200
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 4: If there had been a temporary total disability policy, you

2201
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 4: could get back against the guaranteed salary since he's literally

2202
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 4: done for the year after the first game injury. Apparently

2203
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 4: in NBA and NHL, teams are required to ensure their

2204
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 4: highest paid players.

2205
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 3: In the NFL never used to be quite to London,

2206
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 3: remember that that's who used to do all.

2207
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 4: I remember when the free agent pitching contracts got big,

2208
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 4: and of course pitchers arms can go more than the

2209
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 4: other position players. That teams were having to spend the

2210
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 4: millions in baseball, which is also not required like the NFL,

2211
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 4: believe it or not for this thing. But teams were

2212
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 4: spending millions on the contract and then the insurance on

2213
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 4: top of it. It's just this would be a no

2214
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 4: brainer to me.

2215
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 3: I wish how would students do it right? Like Cab Williams,

2216
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 3: I have to assume as.

2217
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, against future airings, sure absolutely. We've got two late

2218
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,919
Speaker 4: college football games. They're both in the Mountain West Conference.

2219
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 4: Two minutes to go on FS one Boise State ready

2220
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 4: to go to three and zero in league play, thirty

2221
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 4: to seventeen leaders now at Colorado State, and early fourth

2222
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 4: quarter in the late game at Hawaii. Hawaii had actually

2223
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 4: taken the lead until a moment ago. San Diego State

2224
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 4: has just open the fourth quarter with a touchdown to

2225
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,919
Speaker 4: go back in on top twenty seven twenty four Astecs

2226
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 4: had blown a seventeen to nothing lead. Again, the game

2227
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 4: in Hawaii is early in the fourth quarter. And how

2228
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 4: about this for a little trivia question, I found the

2229
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 4: answer from the athletic Of all the college football teams

2230
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 4: currently in the Power five conferences, have any of them

2231
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 4: never beaten a top five team in all the decades

2232
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,480
Speaker 4: they've had a football program.

2233
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 3: Any of them is Vanderbilt.

2234
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 4: The cancer is Vanderbilt, oh and fifty eight against the

2235
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,839
Speaker 4: top five in the AP rack Cincinnati and Central Florida

2236
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 4: as well, although this is Vanderbilt in the SEC. And yeah,

2237
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 4: Vandy lost at home to number one Georgia today thirty

2238
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 4: seven to twenty and Georgia's star tight end Brock Bowers

2239
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 4: left with an ankle injury. George is off next week

2240
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 4: and then they'll go up against Florida, which had a

2241
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,520
Speaker 4: comeback win tonight. Quarterback Carson Beck of Georgia two touchdowns,

2242
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 4: two turnovers. Vanderbilt only had nine first downs. Today Georgia

2243
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 4: had twenty six vanderbiltz and four in conference. You were

2244
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 4: talking earlier about the Michigan Wolverines. No, the schedule hasn't

2245
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 4: been good, but they have been blowing teams out. Against

2246
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 4: Indiana today it was seven to seven late first half

2247
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 4: fifty two to seven. The final Michigan is seven to zero.

2248
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 4: Next two games are at Michigan State, which lost again,

2249
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 4: and against Purdue, which lost at home to number three

2250
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 4: Ohio State today forty one to seven. Buck guys perdue

2251
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 4: on field goal attempts was zero for three today, missed

2252
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 4: from forty eight, from thirty nine yards and from twenty seven.

2253
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,839
Speaker 3: The sigur who is the kid? They had some student

2254
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 3: hit a field goal for like tuition, and then the

2255
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 3: real kicker missed the field goal for the Gamers. Though

2256
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 3: was that? I forget who that?

2257
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 4: I wish I'd seen that.

2258
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah again, the kid made the field goal to

2259
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 3: win tuition and.

2260
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 4: Then the real kicker missed the ket You know, in

2261
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 4: the Lakers exhibition last night, Mike Breen was doing the

2262
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 4: game for Cable and they showed the guy making the

2263
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,759
Speaker 4: shot at the buzzer the fan to win something between quarters.

2264
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 4: He even gave it a bang live on the like

2265
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 4: it was the finals or something. It was great Florida

2266
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,919
Speaker 4: State and Penn State with wins the Classic in Seattle

2267
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 4: today number seven Washington over number eight ranked Oregon thirty

2268
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 4: six thirty three. Oregon missed a forty three yard field

2269
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 4: goal attempt on the final play. Importantly, the Ducks going

2270
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 4: forward on fourth down zero four to three on such

2271
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 4: conversions including let's not skip this at the end of

2272
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 4: the first half, the fourth and goal where they got

2273
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 4: nothing out of.

2274
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 3: That, I'm okay with that going forward on that play too.

2275
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm not okay with the fact that they had zero

2276
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 4: misdirection to the left and immediately everyone including the offensive line,

2277
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 4: all ran to the right half of the field. So

2278
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 4: now you had twenty two players on the right half

2279
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 4: of the field and through incomplete. Notre Dame dominated tenth

2280
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 4: ranked USC tonight forty eight to twenty the Irish with

2281
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,879
Speaker 4: fourth quarter touchdowns on a kickoff return on a fumble

2282
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 4: return see with five turnovers that included the three interceptions

2283
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 4: in the first half from Caleb Williams, who was sacked

2284
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 4: six times. We've got Alabama winning, although it was twenty

2285
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 4: four to six against Arkansas late third quarter, twenty four

2286
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 4: to twenty one. The final. Alabama's next three games are

2287
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 4: against Tennessee, LSU, and at Kentucky. Tennessee won at home

2288
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 4: against Texas A and M twenty to thirteen. A and

2289
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 4: M through interceptions on its last two drives. LSU at

2290
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 4: home beat Auburn forty eight eighteen. Jayden Daniels, who you

2291
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, three touchdown passes in the first three quarters,

2292
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 4: and we did have an Arizona win in case you

2293
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,799
Speaker 4: haven't heard, maybe at nineteenth ranked Washington State Wildcats forty

2294
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 4: four to six. The final. Arizona is off next week.

2295
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State beat number twenty three Kansas thirty nine to

2296
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 4: thirty two. It's too bad that Jalen Daniels, Kansas quarterback,

2297
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 4: missed another game with the bad back. Missouri won at

2298
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 4: number twenty four Kentucky thirty eight to twenty one. Aaron

2299
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 4: Torre Is this stat for you that the top six

2300
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:57,480
Speaker 4: basketball schools in AP's history of hoops rankings are Kentucky,

2301
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 4: North Carolina, and Duke, Kansas, UCLA, and Louisville. I bring

2302
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 4: that up because, for the first time in the eighty

2303
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 4: seven year history of the AP Football Poll. All six

2304
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 4: of those schools are ranked at the same time this

2305
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 4: week in football, that's crazy. That is crazy.

2306
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 3: Programming.

2307
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 4: Note Baseball's ALCS starts Sunday night on Fox TV Texas

2308
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:23,759
Speaker 4: at Houston. Game two Monday afternoon on Fox. Rangers pitcher

2309
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 4: Max schurz Or, with the strange shoulder, did throw a

2310
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 4: bullpen session yesterday, says he's ready. He was not on

2311
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 4: the roster for the division round. Rosters for this coming

2312
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 4: round will be set in the morning. Keep in mind,

2313
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 4: so far this postseason, teams that out homer their opponent

2314
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 4: in the game are fourteen and one. Over Half of

2315
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 4: the runs scored in the playoffs so far have come

2316
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 4: via the home run. Back to you, Thank you to Saga,

2317
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 4: to Sega, have a great evening. You'll be back tomorrow

2318
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 4: with Marks.

2319
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 3: I got him scheduled for tomorrow.

2320
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 2: All the professionals, Mark, Willard, Kyle, Rudolph, Chris.

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01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's basically it.

2322
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Very good, all right, Thank you to Saga, Fox Sports Radio,

2323
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 2: Air Tours and Arnie Span you're in for Jason Martin.

2324
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: Jason will be back next week. I'll tell you what, producer,

2325
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 2: Pat give us the next game.

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01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 7: What do we got all right, all right, we're gonna

2327
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 7: go back to the NFC with this one. Boys.

2328
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 3: We got the.

2329
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 7: Detroit Lions, the four and one Detroit Lions going up

2330
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 7: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They are at Tampa for

2331
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 7: this one. Now, the line on this one guys a

2332
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 7: lot closer than the last two. Detroit is favored by

2333
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 7: three points over the Buccaneers in Tampa.

2334
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 3: Let's go with Aaron.

2335
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 7: Aaron, what are we looking at? What do we think?

2336
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 2: How about this Arnie first place showdown between these two teams.

2337
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 2: I'll say this, you know, listen, I think the Lions

2338
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,759
Speaker 2: are another team. I mentioned this earlier with the Dolphins.

2339
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 2: So likable, but they're also just really good, like good

2340
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 2: across the board, dynamic, athletic, young.

2341
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 3: I think that group, you know.

2342
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 2: I know Dan Campbell isn't in charge of player personnel,

2343
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 2: but they've done such a good job of rebuilding that team.

2344
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 2: I think they're one of the best teams in the NFL.

2345
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 2: I think they go to Tampa and get the w Yeah.

2346
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 3: I like them. I'm sold on them. I like the

2347
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 3: whole You know, we used to laugh at them about

2348
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,719
Speaker 3: the bite jer knee caps and all that raw ride

2349
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 3: It's just turned out to be a great fit for

2350
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 3: not only Detroit, but for Campbell also. It's gonna be

2351
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 3: a good game at Tampa. Big game for Detroit. You know,

2352
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 3: eventually you want to get over that hump and prove

2353
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,839
Speaker 3: that you were the team to beat in that division.

2354
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 3: They got a two game lead over Green Bay. They

2355
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 3: win this one. They jumped the five and one Green

2356
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 3: Bays two and three Bears in Minnesota aren't doing anything.

2357
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 3: This could be the difference between them running away with

2358
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 3: the division or not. So this is a big game

2359
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 3: for them.

2360
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 7: Alrighty ready, we got the last one of the night. Now, boys,

2361
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:44,440
Speaker 7: we got the Dallas Cowboys, the three and two Dallas Cowboys,

2362
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:48,440
Speaker 7: might I add going up against the Los Angeles Chargers.

2363
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 7: They are in LA and that is actually Monday night. Now, guys,

2364
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,879
Speaker 7: how low have the Dallas Cowboys fell? Because this line

2365
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 7: is a way closer than the three point favorite we

2366
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 7: had last time. Dallas is favorite at a point and

2367
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 7: a half and they were at the top just weeks

2368
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 7: ago a point a half over the Dallas Arnie who

2369
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 7: he's taking?

2370
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 3: What do you think I would think that this would

2371
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 3: be more of a pickup game on that I would.

2372
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 3: And by the way, Torres, I don't know if you

2373
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 3: know this, there'll be more Cowboy fans at this game

2374
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 3: than Charger gas Right now, I'm not laughing at you.

2375
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 3: I agree with you. One is going to be on

2376
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 3: this Cowboys need to bounce back in a big way.

2377
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 3: You follow three and three. Now your whole season's in jeopardy.

2378
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 3: They'll start poorting fingers. It's it's a big game, and

2379
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 3: now they're gonna go on the road to the Chargers,

2380
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 3: who also have are fighting out for their lives. You

2381
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 3: know I wrote down in the rundown who needs a

2382
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 3: win tomorrow to save their NFL season. You could look

2383
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 3: at this game right here between the Cowboys and the Chargers,

2384
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:50,919
Speaker 3: where a loser drops under five hundred. What a monster

2385
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 3: game at least the Chargers do. What a monster game

2386
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 3: it is for both teams. If I had to pick

2387
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 3: a game, I pick a team. I'm gonna go with

2388
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 3: the Chargers in this playing at home. But my goodness, man,

2389
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 3: this could come down to a field goal. I'll say this,

2390
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 3: If the Chargers can't win this game off of a bye,

2391
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, listen, I mean, if the Cowboys

2392
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 3: are incredible, like whatever.

2393
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 2: Like they need to charge, like Brandan Staley needs to

2394
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: do something that doesn't involve just blowing games against good

2395
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: teams and in many cases bad teams. You're off a bye,

2396
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 2: you have the extra time. Dallas, this is their second

2397
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: straight West Coast game, a lot of travel for them. Like,

2398
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 2: if you're the Chargers, you kind of gotta win this game.

2399
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 3: Like Dallas has to win this game too, don't they.

2400
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 3: They can't drop the three and three and be right,

2401
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,799
Speaker 3: the first of all, they're not gonna win the division

2402
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 3: as it is now. They'll be fighting for their playoff

2403
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 3: lives or wildcard lives if they lose this game. Yeah.

2404
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 2: The other thing too, like and I know it's it's

2405
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 2: it's the NFL and anything can happen, Like this is

2406
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: why you can't lose to the Cardinals. And I know

2407
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 2: they had a lot of guys, Like I know that

2408
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 2: guy's banged up in whatever. It's like, No, this is

2409
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,839
Speaker 2: just don't lose to the Cardinals because all these games

2410
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 2: end up mattering. So all right, Arnie, tell you what,

2411
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 2: come back, We'll wrap the show. Got one big question

2412
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 2: for you. I'm curious for your answer. That's next, Fox.

2413
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 3: Sports, Are you bro goes for the end zone off

2414
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 3: the left sideline about zone touchdown, Washington fireworks tune up

2415
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 3: out of the scoreboard. What thirty eight to go and

2416
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:29,799
Speaker 3: the Huskies take the lead. A Heisman moment for Michael

2417
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 3: Pennex and Roman to day.

2418
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 2: That was Tony Castroconi of lear Field Sports as Washington

2419
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: with under two minutes to go take the lead over

2420
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 2: Oregon and ends up winning that top ten matchup in Seattle.

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01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,720
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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. By the way, Arnie, I saw a lot

2427
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: of tweets today about oh, I'll let Torres drive, Paul,

2428
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,679
Speaker 2: How am I driving today? How am I driving? How's driving?

2429
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 3: Very rough?

2430
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 4: Very?

2431
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 3: But I mean it's okay.

2432
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 2: Look if it's rough, it's because I learned everything from you.

2433
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 3: So you're you're not a good driver. Really, I mean

2434
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 3: that's why I started the show off by driving, and

2435
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 3: I didn't know you weren't gonna, you know, let me

2436
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 3: drive the show, so.

2437
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,799
Speaker 2: Of course I can't have everything. By the way, Arnie,

2438
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 2: let's get yeah. I was just curious about that. But

2439
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 2: let's let's wrap the show a couple of quick stories.

2440
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 2: I want to get your opinion on. And I did

2441
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 2: just see this tweet.

2442
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 3: Come in, let me see if I can find it

2443
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 3: really quick. I headed up and lost it.

2444
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: But uh, it was from Paul Ross, who said, all

2445
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 2: of a sudden, money hungry, stinking genius wants to get

2446
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,719
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee exclusive interviews as a pundit. That of course

2447
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 2: comes on the heels of a report from The New

2448
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 2: York Post that Aaron Rodgers is paid upwards of seven

2449
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 2: figures to do the Pat McAfee show. I know you

2450
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 2: do it for seven dollars, but.

2451
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 3: Fair foul? Do you have any problem with this at all? Yeah?

2452
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 3: You know, because I thought they were good friends. He

2453
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 3: made it. He made insinuate that Aaron Rodgers was doing

2454
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 3: this on his own time, and that they were good

2455
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 3: friends and they had known each other. I didn't know

2456
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 3: he was paying him a million dollars a year. Now,

2457
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 3: is he worth it? I'm assuming so, I mean, look

2458
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 3: at all the publicity gets from Aaron Rodgers coming on

2459
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 3: this show. Plus who knows if advertisers don't give him

2460
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 3: that money back to make up that million dollars. But

2461
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I didn't think that one he was paying

2462
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers at all, and two I didn't think you'd

2463
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 3: be paying him that type of money. I have nothing

2464
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 3: against them doing it. I was just surprised about the

2465
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 3: whole thing.

2466
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll be honest. So two things. One, if

2467
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 2: you actually read the article, Nick Saban is getting paid

2468
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 2: a significant amount of money to to go on the

2469
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show. And I'm a little surprised by that

2470
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 2: one because it started this year and I I just

2471
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 2: kind of assumed it was an ESPN ESPN pushed forward

2472
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: because obviously the show's on ESPN now and it benefits everybody,

2473
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 2: and Alabama games are ESPN. So I was actually a

2474
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 2: little bit more surprised to see that Saban was paid. The

2475
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 2: Rogers stuff, you know, listen, I'm with you is that

2476
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 2: they definitely sold it as like, oh, their buddies, and

2477
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,959
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers can come on and be himself.

2478
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 2: But I will also say it's a good investment you know, listen,

2479
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't watch or consume a ton of Pat McAfee.

2480
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 2: I think he's really talented. This isn't a knock on

2481
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 2: him in any way, but I do think that Aaron

2482
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 2: Rodgers interview. Tell me if I'm wrong, Like everybody knows,

2483
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, Pat McFee the punter, then he was on barstool,

2484
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 2: and then of course, you know, he really started to

2485
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: build his brand on his own. But I feel like

2486
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers interviews about three four years ago, whenever

2487
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 2: they started like that was kind of when Pat McFee

2488
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 2: went mainstream where it was kind of like, okay, Sports

2489
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 2: Center and Fox Sports Radio and whatever had to reference

2490
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:55,959
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee.

2491
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 3: So whatever he's paying, I think it's worth it.

2492
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 2: And that to me was kind of when he went

2493
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 2: from like quirky former player to like, oh, he's getting

2494
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 2: interviews that nobody else in sports is getting, you know, right,

2495
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 2: And I.

2496
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 3: Was if look, if Aaron Rodgers continue to say stuff

2497
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 3: that people are gonna want to hear, it's good for

2498
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 3: a show. But if he's gonna be bland, like you said,

2499
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 3: I I'm not sure that Nick Saban's ever gonna say

2500
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 3: aything interesting enough for us to even go. Did you

2501
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 3: hear what Nick Saban said today? He's never gonna say

2502
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 3: anything like that, So I think it works out good

2503
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 3: for Rogers. I don't think it's gonna work out for

2504
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 3: Nick Saban.

2505
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm getting bashed by Michael who says

2506
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 2: Keenan Thompson or whatever his name is. Do you I

2507
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember, but on there was a

2508
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 2: weekend update skit on right NBC, and I get Keenan

2509
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 2: and kel confused. Okay, I mean they were, you know,

2510
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: they were on the show back in the day, and

2511
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 2: I just can't.

2512
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 3: Remember which is which, So I forgive me really quickly.

2513
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 2: One last story I did want to get to outside

2514
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers the Steven the so I was gonna

2515
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 2: say stephen A. Smith, the Steve Smith stuff. We don't

2516
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 2: have to play the sound, but like, essentially Steven, I

2517
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 2: keep saying Steve, Steve Smith, former wide receiver. I guess

2518
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 2: he was critical of Jerry Judy on one of his podcasts.

2519
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 2: Then saw Jerry Judy on the field before the Thursday

2520
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:17,839
Speaker 2: night game between the Broncos and the Kansas City Chiefs.

2521
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 2: Tried to apologize to Jerry Judy Jerry Judy said, I

2522
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: don't mess with you man, blah blah blah, this and that.

2523
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 2: Then Steve Smith went back to proceed to crush Jerry

2524
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 2: Judy again, essentially saying like, you know, if you can't

2525
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 2: handle some criticism, you're soft. Like what did you make

2526
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 2: of that whole back and forth? I actually have an

2527
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 2: opinion on it, but I'm curious for your perspective.

2528
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: Well, Look, I mean, first of all, there's a lot

2529
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,800
Speaker 3: of people in the media that were former players that

2530
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 3: don't like to criticize anybody and have nothing to say. Look,

2531
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 3: Steve Smith's gonna have to understand not everybody's gonna like

2532
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 3: what you say. You're there to do a job. They

2533
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 3: want your opinion, So don't be so worried about what

2534
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 3: uh people are going to react to your opinions out

2535
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 3: there and to what you got to say about them.

2536
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 2: So I agree with you is that I think all

2537
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: these guys they see the success of a Pat McAfee,

2538
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 2: of a JJ Reddick, of these guys that have had

2539
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 2: success in the media as former players, and they all

2540
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 2: want to get into it without having either super strong

2541
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 2: opinions or wanting to criticize anybody, and that's part of

2542
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 2: the job. What makes Charles Barkley so good at what

2543
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 2: he does, he's not afraid to say it. So one,

2544
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm tired of these athletes thinking that, you know, they're

2545
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 2: somehow different than us. Snow, you're paid to give honest opinions.

2546
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's criticism. What I also kind of was annoyed

2547
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 2: by with that exact situation is the expectation that just

2548
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 2: because you try to apologize to Jerry Judy, that he

2549
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 2: owes it to you to accept it. Like you know, listen,

2550
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 2: it's Steve Smith's job to be critical, but it's not

2551
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy's obligation to accept the apology. Yeah, like that

2552
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 2: was my hope. People were like, oh, Jerry Judy's soft.

2553
01:58:58,680 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, he's not.

2554
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:00,839
Speaker 4: He doesn't.

2555
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 2: Like like if I was bashing you every Saturday and

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Speaker 2: you came out on Sunday and found out that I

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Speaker 2: was crushing you, and I said, oh, I'm sorry, it's

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Speaker 2: not your obligation to say, oh okay, Well, Trus said

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Speaker 2: he's sorry, So I gotta forgive him.

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Speaker 3: Now. Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan are not friends anymore.

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Speaker 3: After what Charles had to say, I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the same page with you on that one,

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Speaker 2: which is a very big surprise considering we're never on

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Speaker 2: the same page. But Arnie, it was fun with you

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Speaker 2: having Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It good to be back for one time. It was

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Speaker 3: absolutely it.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna be back. Jason Martin will be back next week.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, Lorraina on the board,

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Speaker 2: producer Pat Steve Desager, for my partner Arnie Spanier. I'm

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Speaker 2: eron Taurus. Bernie Frado is up next. Download the podcast,

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Speaker 2: available wherever you get podcasts. Bernie Fratto Now