1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you? Why why? Oh? And 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yeah? Goodness? Ling you? Well, 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: I hope you are. What's going on right now? You are? 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: We both in a little dip? Should we acknowledge this 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: and be up front? I have been anxious all day 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: and I literally don't know why I do Why? Why 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: do you know? Why? Well, I it's so stupid. I 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: just I feel tell me now, I feel like we're 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: at the time of the pandemic. We're like I don't 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: talk to a single person that is doing well. And 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's hard to like, it's hard to 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: make yourself feel good when like when wheneveryone around you 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: feels bad, you know what I mean? Like you get this, 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: I get this. You're so right, and I hadn't thought 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: of it that way before. My sister so wise. Well, 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, you might call me the wisdom. You are 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: the wisdom. I call you that all the time. But 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: aren't you doing relatively okay? Like yes, but then there's 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: there's little things. I just feel like it's a very 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: inactive time right now, at being the winter. I can't 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: imagine like and I'm saying this like in Los Angeles. Mean, 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: while you're in New York whered it's absolutely covered in snow. 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: You do not understand the luxury that is to be 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: able to drive fifteen minutes to Griffith Park and not 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: even five, it's even five, not even five. And then 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: you go on a gorgeous hike up through those hills 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: and you can even go behind one or two hills 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: and look at the San Gabriel Valley. Oh my god, 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: what a life in an l A. I've forgotten my roots, 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: That's what it is. I'm disconnected from my touchstones that 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: keep me grounded and tethered really to to earth. But no, 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. It's I'm just thinking of myself, 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: like why do I do that? Like I'm the kind 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: of person that I really absorb other people's stuff, and um, 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: it ends up dictating my experience. Um, and I I 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: don't know what queen em path queen. But yeah, it's 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: just it's just something I've been thinking about a lot 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: because I just feel like it's a time in the 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: pandemic when no one is like, um, feeling happy. Also, honestly, 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I think I've just like the week has been a 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: lot like after the accident. I still don't have a car, 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm still just like sitting 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: here and not really doing much. And I haven't been 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: able to go out and like buy groceries, and I 45 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: was doing very good with cooking for myself and etcetera. 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: It's just like a weird, lullish time in the pandemic. 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: And I think what happens when you're not doing much 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: and you have an addiction to social media is you're 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: on it a lot. So I will say it ain't 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: good right now. We're living in a great time of 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: social media either, No, And it actually sort of brings 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: me to a piece of culture I feel we should discuss, 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: which is the Brittany of it all. And I watched 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: the Brittany documentary, and I think this is one of 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: the reasons why I was in a funk. Like I 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: watched the Brittany documentary. It was devastating, and in watching it, 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: I felt a lot of like I think, like personal 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: responsibility is the wrong way to say it, but I 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: felt like we have not been there for her as 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: a as a people, that she gave so much too. 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: And I thought to myself and of course I had 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: to take to Twitter, and I was like, you know, 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: in watching I tried to say in so many words, 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: in watching the Britney Spears documentary, it's so clearly that 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: this is to me anyway, this is about so much 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: more than just her. It's about uh, misogynist and sexist 67 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: culture that would basically for so many years sort of 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: try to condition us to make us feel like the 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: suffering of these celebrities and really mainly these women is 70 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: funny and like, you know, like we were cultured by 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: like late night and tabloid culture to think there was 72 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: entertainment value in this type of thing. And so I 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: tweeted that something to that extent, and like a lot 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: of the responses I got were like yeah, duh, and 75 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: it's like okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, it just became 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: this luckily thing. Well, people are just people online are 77 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: just so mad about why that they're mad that you, like, 78 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: even the reminders of that reality that you are already 79 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: aware of way way before this documentary came out, that 80 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: you don't sort of like vocalize that every day as 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: if it's an implicit truth, Like for I mean, but 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: it's I don't care for people who say duh, like 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't understand what the conversational rhetorical like use of 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: that is to be like, yeah, we've all known that. 85 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: It's like, well, then good for fucking you. This No, 86 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: no, no no, literally this because one thing I was entertaining 87 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: is my I don't think so honey. Later was people 88 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: that are like, well, I never thought it was funny 89 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: what was happening with Britney Spears, like good for you. 90 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that someone would take this opportunity to 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: so how they've always been a better person than everyone else. 92 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: It's like we're just pointing out that the culture like 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: was set so that we like enjoyed the downfall of 94 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: these celebrities. It's been like that for a very long time. 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not breaking any news. I'm just pointing 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: it out what the documentary illustrates. And people are just 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: like they need so desperately to like let you all know, well, 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: but well I was I always thought it was horrible 99 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: what they did the Brittey Spears good for you. I'm sorry, No, 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: that's pathetic, and you know you know what that does. 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: That's also buying into like stupid individualist nonsense where it's 102 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: like that you think it's important that you were exceptional 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: in whatever way of thinking to be like, well, this 104 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: what you're saying has no value or importance because I 105 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: am the exception that that doesn't take away from the 106 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: fact that this is a society that this has been 107 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: like there was a societal project to ruin Britney Spears's life. Absolutely, 108 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: and I think, like, but it is it's it is 109 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and it is individualism or re collectivism where 110 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: it's like, it doesn't fucking matter what your individual like 111 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: responsibility as a person is, Like you you're not changing anything, 112 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: any outcome as it relates to some collective issue. That's all. 113 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: It is, Like, I don't care that you always thought 114 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: that what we were doing in Britney Spears is sucked up. 115 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: This documentary exists in spite of that, right, and we 116 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: are reacting to it. And what I think, I think 117 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: it's number one case that it makes is that this 118 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: is misogyny period, Like this is just what we did 119 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: to this girl, this superhuman talent who was willing to 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: give and give and give from the time she was 121 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: nine ten years old. On Star Starts, she was being 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: asked questions by Ed McMahon. Did you get to watch 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: the doc Yeah, I watched. I watched the whole thing. 124 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: I had asked, sir, do you have a boy friend? Like? 125 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: It's truly wild, wild wild, And honestly, and you and 126 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: I talked about this over FaceTime yesterday, like, and you 127 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: said something and I think that is brilliant, which is 128 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: anyone who worked in media in like the year two thousand, 129 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: let's say, like two thousand to two thousand eight nine, 130 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: she just no longer work in media. Yeah, I just 131 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: think they should be replaced. If you're Diane Sawyer, if 132 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: you're fucking Matt Lower obviously, or like Jay Leno, or 133 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: like any of those people who like truly like went 134 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: after this woman or like took the pot shots at 135 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: the time when it was such low hanging fruit, like 136 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: you should go fund yourself. I I honestly, ever since 137 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: the Connie Chunk thing, and even before that, I'm like, 138 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about that fucking Diane fucking Sawyer because 139 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: you and I have even talked about that moment in 140 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: the interview when Britney basically says like there's power and masturbation, 141 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: she says, she's the words she used where she feels 142 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: that masturbation is a sacred thing that she doesn't want 143 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: to that that she feels like a power and a 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: pleasure and a and Diane looked at her like she 145 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: had three heads and was like, you think it's sacred 146 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: And you can see in that moment Brittany sort of 147 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: sink into herself and she said, oh, just kidding, I 148 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: think I'm confused. I'm embarrassed, and she like moved it along, 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: and then like what's also explored in the documentary is 150 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: how basically Diane Sawyer is cornering Brittany in that interview, 151 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: being like, what did you do to Justin Timberlake to 152 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: make it? Because it was just and we can talk 153 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: about Justin at length, but like, but the media basically 154 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: like really sided with him with no evidence but his 155 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: own testimony, his own obviously biased testimony. And when you 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: watch the whole documentary, it's clear they had been out 157 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: to get her from the beginning because people were uncomfortable 158 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: with her expressing sexuality in the way that she did, 159 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: in connecting with young girl in the way that she 160 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: did who hadn't really had someone like that um to 161 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: speak specifically to this generation because the thing about Britney 162 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Spears is she is our generations. You can even say 163 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: millennial generations answer to Generation x's Madonna and Janet Jackson, 164 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There was not uh sexually 165 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: forward figure like that, and she happened to be young 166 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: and you know, selling a sexy image, and I think 167 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: people were so offended and triggered by that. It's not 168 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: even that we were uncomfortable. We were always comfortable. We 169 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: were always overly comfortable, or even just we were dictating 170 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: what her sexuality should be by being like, oh, let's 171 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: ask her about her TETs when she's sucking eighteen. It's 172 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: only we were like she did, like she found her 173 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: little cracks in the Veneer to like express herself sexually. 174 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: But it was also this thing where like we were 175 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: the ones who fucking chipped at it because we kept 176 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: like making jokes about her boobs or her virginity and 177 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: all this stuff. So it's it's not even that like 178 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: we we it was a reactionary thing. It's that we, 179 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: like as a society, were so fucking interrogational about her 180 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: existence as like a really confident performer and an attractive 181 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,359 Speaker 1: performer and someone who like could be like very commanding physically. 182 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, God, I like watched back like 183 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: the pepsi Ads from the super Bowl, like you know, 184 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: twenty years ago at this point, and it's like, God, 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Britney Spears was a fucking dynamo and like Jackson level 186 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: choreographic dancing and like had that quality where you just 187 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: like lost your mind when you saw her like pop 188 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: out on stage at that time, you know what I 189 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: mean absolutely, I mean there was before Brittany for our generation, 190 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: and there was after Brittany. And I say this sometimes 191 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I believe you have a similar experience, 192 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: but I remember the day she impacted, Like I remember 193 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: there was a day where Baby one more Time was 194 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: not in the culture. And then next day I remember 195 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: I were distinctly remember walking into third grade and it 196 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: was like have you seen Britney Spears. We love Britney Spears, 197 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: Like Britney Spears is the best. And I was like, wait, 198 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: hold on, who is Britney Spears. And at that time, 199 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: you couldn't just go home and like look it up, 200 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you had to remember 201 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: I had to beg my parents to let me put 202 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: on MTV because I was not allowed to watch that 203 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: because I knew they weren't playing around VH one. I 204 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: was like, please, like you don't understand, like there's a 205 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: singer that I have to know in order to fit in. 206 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Like it got to that point and they were like 207 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: And I remember my uncle was like, oh, I've seen 208 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: the Britney Spears video. You know it's really something else. 209 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: And I was like, I need to see it. And 210 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: then when because it was this there was a demand 211 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: for her that it was. It was so instant that 212 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: and I think that art generation hadn't really experienced anything 213 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: like that. Like yes, with the Spice Girls, um, but 214 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: there were so many of them, and also with boy bands, 215 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: there were so many people involved. Like that sounds silly, 216 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: but a targeted fixation on one individual had not really 217 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: happened yet for our generation. And you're right, like it 218 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: took my sister to bring home a c D of 219 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: Baby One More time the album, Like I I didn't 220 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: know who she was until the album came out, you 221 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, but then like I just 222 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: I remember, I have like the fullest sense memory of 223 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: like being in my living room in our house in 224 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Canada and just like putting in the CD and being like, 225 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the best thing I've ever 226 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: heard in my life. Yes, oh absolutely, I mean even 227 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: the like besides like soda pops sometimes sometimes email my heart, 228 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: like that album Diary and I can't smile Daddy, And 229 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: she was she no one had ever been like that. 230 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: And I remember it was like, I don't even think 231 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: I knew what she looked like until I got to 232 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: the record store and walked up to the new releases 233 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: and picked up the album and the CD. And then 234 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: were you like, she's the prettiest girl? I was like, 235 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: she's so pretty. I was like, oh, she's like super cute, 236 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: and she's exactly as pretty as everyone said she would be. 237 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: And then you turn on you hear and the world changed. 238 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that was the moment. It was Brittany's. Was 239 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: Brittany's only placement in the top two hundred moments, number 240 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: two hundred, No, there had to have been more. Two 241 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: hundred is when Britney said, good morning America. Well that's 242 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: it's you know what, we might have to do a 243 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: new list. We might because because we might have to 244 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: do for two episode, we might have to do top 245 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: two fifty moments that didn't make it, because it's just 246 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: getting to be ridiculous how many things we've missed because 247 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: what should be on the list is no that just 248 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: that sound should be on the list. Um, and maybe 249 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: maybe maybe we can have Doug put it in right here? 250 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Can you just put the sound from the Brittany songwrite 251 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: in right here? Great? I'm so happy And now all 252 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: you're thinking about is that song in the music video, 253 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: the fucking like little puffs in her ponytail at Pigtails. Yes, 254 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: but you know what else is interesting, like the amount 255 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: of time where she was like super dominant, which was 256 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: like ninety eight to two thousand four or five, like 257 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: up through in the zone like before it got kind 258 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: of weird with her being consumed by the paparazzi and 259 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: everything when she was just truly untouchable everyone's favorite. Um, 260 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: it felt like twenty years but was only like six. 261 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: It was only sex six. It was like nine because 262 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: baby warmer time was oh no, baby, one more time 263 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: is nine and then said it again with two thousand. 264 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: That makes sense because that was the That was also 265 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: at the same time when the Backstrap Boys put out 266 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: the millennium album. So this, like with the Millennium, was 267 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: a huge like the like time stamp well because back 268 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: then it was because it really was like once a 269 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: year there would be a new Brittany album. And I 270 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: was like, truly even as a kid, getting used to 271 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: the cadence of once a year, there's gonna be a 272 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Britney Spears album, and it's gonna be so it's gonna 273 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: consume my life because it was baby one more time 274 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: two thousand, WASP did again in two thousand one was Brittany, 275 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: and I think and then in the Zone wasn't until 276 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, but even then I was just like, 277 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: we're getting Brittany consistently, and I like did not know how, 278 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: like you know this the industry worked. So I was 279 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: just like, for the until I die, there's gonna be 280 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: a new Britney Spears album once or once every two years, 281 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: once every year or once every two years. And also 282 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: like you don't understand what it takes to have that output. 283 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Like now looking back, it's like they probably worked out 284 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: like a dog and like and and she probably and 285 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: you see in the documentary that she enjoys it and 286 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: likes and like has input and like, yeah, is part 287 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: of the process of executive ability. And then I remember 288 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: when she took her a little break before she did 289 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: in the Zone because she was gonna like rebrand and 290 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: come back as this, you know, a little bit older 291 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: version of Britney Spears, and it felt like it was 292 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: a veteran returning. Meanwhile, she had been in the industry 293 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: for like four years year well, and I mean and 294 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean as a huge mainstream pop act. Obviously she 295 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: had done Mickey Mouse Club and all that stuff. But 296 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: but I just remember her being so ubiquitous and at 297 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: the time obviously not knowing what that meant, which is 298 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: that she must be working insanely hard. And the documentary 299 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: just shows that. I think people do appreciate the documentary 300 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: showing like a moment of her being like, I was 301 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: not controlled from the I was not a puppet from 302 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: the beginning. I really. And it's like what Justin Tranter 303 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: said to when we have them on there, like someone 304 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: who like achieves like Selena, let's say, his levels of success. 305 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: They were they were talking about like Selena gom As 306 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: his level of success that's not by accident, that's like 307 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: there's something there's some personal power in there and that 308 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: artist to like know what to lean in on. And 309 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I feel like you have to give credit to Britney 310 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: Spears for knowing that herself. Yeah, it's important to know 311 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: that too in the documentaries because of the position that 312 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: she's in now where she has like no autonomy over 313 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: what she's doing, and it's it's crazy because what the 314 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: documentary argues is that basically it went from postpartum combined 315 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: combined with the fact that the paparazzi was out to 316 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: get her, and the fact it went from that to 317 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: conservatorship pretty much within a span of like six months, right, 318 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: which is unheard of Black. Around the release of Black, 319 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: which was like October seven into the first quarter of 320 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: that was when that was like the full cycle of 321 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: the conservatorship or in terms of like it's sort of 322 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: being talked about and then it finally happening. And truly 323 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: that like that that crazy like if if it like 324 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: butterfly effect moment was that one lawyer being rejected from 325 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: representing her in the in the dispute because like she 326 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: gets this quarter appointed lawyer to represent her and then 327 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: she loses the dispute and then she has to be 328 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: under her father's conservatorship, right, you know I'm talking about yes, yes, yes, 329 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: and like it's just crazy, how rigged. It obviously feels 330 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: against her, the fact that it seems like no matter 331 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: what she says or does, and now she's like legally 332 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: in court documents she is she is saying she fears 333 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: her father, she doesn't want him involved, she won't work, 334 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: she won't work with him, she won't put out any 335 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: new work if he's still the concern, right, And she recognizes, appreciates, 336 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: and supports the informed support of her fans who are 337 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: the Free Brittany movement, which to me means that like, 338 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: there's something wrong here. And I really feel like we 339 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: should be able to hear from her, and yes you 340 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: can on her Instagram and stuff. And she actually trolled 341 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: today and she put out a close that was like, Wow, 342 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: what we've all been waiting for last week the super Bowl, 343 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: I was rooting for both teams, Like she kind of 344 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: like said something like like that, and I was like, yeah, 345 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: but Brittany, what's going on? Because it's now gotten to 346 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: a point where it's like it's it's it's it's ordinarily 347 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: with a big stunt like this like, whenever Taylor Swift 348 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: pulls a stunt or like whatever, it's usually whether we 349 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: can see it on face value or not, in service 350 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: of some sort of project or the brand. This is not. 351 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: So it's like her life, Yeah, this is for her safety, satity, livelihood. 352 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: And so it just feels to me like there's obviously 353 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: something wrong with someone being in control of her money 354 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: and person who she says she she explicitly doesn't want 355 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: in that role and has been saying that. And then 356 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: there was that weird interview with her brother where he 357 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the women in my family are 358 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: very strong willed, and it's annoying or something. I was like, 359 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: the deal here, it's just like and where he's like, 360 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm one of the few men in the family. 361 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's you and your dad, who's a 362 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: full fucking deadbeat who is absent for most of Brittaney's 363 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: life and trying to start off these stupid little griff 364 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: de rackets or whatever the fuck. And now he's like 365 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: swooping back in and controlling her money and having her 366 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: pay for his lawyers. It's so fucked up. Um, that 367 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: fucking lawyer who represents Jamie was so stupid. I can't 368 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: believe she like that fucking woman who was just like, um, yeah, 369 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: the conservatorship is like legitimate in these ways, and then 370 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: she like like a we you see, like a week 371 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: after that interview she went back to represent Jamie Spears. 372 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: It's like, so it's so stacked against poor Brittany, and 373 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: it's like and and yeah, like but I wonder like 374 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: what we like, you say that we have not been 375 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: there for her? I agree, but what do we do 376 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: well to be to be there for her? And what 377 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean by that is like, what I mean is 378 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible. And a lot of people 379 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: were telling me I was wrong yesterday on Twitter, and 380 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: good for fucking you, sweetheart, good for you. But I 381 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's possible to sit here and say, as 382 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: a consumer of culture in the era of Britney Spears, 383 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: as a millennial who is like a fan of pop culture, 384 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: that that there's not stuff to examine about the way 385 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: that we've experienced examined discussed culture and we literally do 386 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: it on this show, and we've had to change the 387 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: way that we talk a lot. I mean, when when 388 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: when um, when Adele came back into the scene and 389 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: had lost all that weight. You know, we said, like, 390 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: we have to change the way that we talk about 391 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: especially women in the in the public eye, because this 392 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: has real repercussions on their lives. And I think that 393 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: someone like Britney spears because she's just always been there 394 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: and always been ubiquitous, because there's some joy in talking 395 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: about her or experiencing her in any way. We all 396 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: are a little brainwashed and conditioned to feel like it's 397 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: okay to laugh at someone who's rich, or it's okay 398 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: to laugh at someone who's beautiful, or it's okay to 399 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: laugh at someone who's talented, who seemingly is undefeatable. But 400 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: with her, it's like, when she's so clearly was vulnerable, 401 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: it felt like it came at the perfect storm when 402 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: it came to like the tabloid culture. And like I remember, 403 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: I was a big consumer of Peress Hilton because at 404 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: the time, when I was in middle school, high school, 405 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I did think a lot of the ways he was 406 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: sety towards celebrity was funny because something about the way 407 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: that um it was all framed or it just always 408 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: felt like a punch up um I guess or maybe 409 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: it was just the fact that I grew up in 410 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: a very toxic, patriarchal part of the world, you know 411 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, And I'm just recognizing that now and 412 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: it's just another step of the unlearning of all of that. 413 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: But I did, um, you know, not enjoy, but participate 414 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: in a narrative that was Wow, Britney spears, like what 415 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: a train wreck, you know what I mean. And I 416 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: think it's disingenuous to say not me, never me, Like 417 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: I just think that that means it's it's it's a 418 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: lack of self awareness to think you were better than 419 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: all of this and that you didn't participate in this. 420 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. It's like denying 421 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: that you were a part of some large collective sentiment 422 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: about something, right, Like I don't know that that it's 423 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: it's not like it's not that I'm sure it's not that. 424 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: It's not that like, um, we're saying that like oh, 425 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: like contrarians are or that's not like like like that's 426 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: like a useless stance to take. But it's like also, 427 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't really undermine anything about the dominant like feeling 428 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: around something or that you sort of absolve yourself from 429 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: like the consequences of that. Does that make sense? It's 430 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: like yeah, like you being like I didn't, I never, 431 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: I never like sort of fell for the whole like 432 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: Brittany like ha ha, train doesn't mean that like millions 433 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: of other people did right exactly, And so it's basically 434 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: just like a way to like say you're better than everyone, 435 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: which cool and great, good for you, I'm so happy 436 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: for you, like wonderful, Like next time there's a big 437 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: polarizing issue, will listen to you first, because you're on 438 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: the right side of history about everything. But my thing 439 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: is just like like like millions and millions of people 440 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: clearly felt conditioned by a society into thinking that this 441 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: was an acceptable way to treat someone because she was 442 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: treated that way and is in the positions that she's 443 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: in now and like we saw it. So so I 444 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: don't think that denying that you that or or like 445 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: trying to absolve yourself from it or like take blame 446 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: off of yourself a responsibility off of yourself for what 447 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: happened to this person is necessarily helpful because it happened 448 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: and we're dealing with it now. Sure, Sure, And then 449 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: I find Brittany. I find Brittany to be tragic because 450 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: it's like what you were saying, like and what the 451 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: doc says is that her having children um coincided with 452 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: the paparazzi at there sort of keep powers and so 453 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: like it just it just it's just trying to imagine 454 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: living in life as a new mother while having every 455 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: single thing that you do be examined and scrutinized. Is 456 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: it just it must sound like hell to anyone, right, 457 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: it has to sound like hell to anyone, and so 458 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: and so Britney Spirits is tragic because she is this 459 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: like person who had to bear the brunt of like 460 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: every one moralizing around how celebrities should be respectable, presentable. 461 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: But meanwhile she was being subjected to this insane media 462 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: scrutiny around being like her anatomy and her her sexuality 463 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: in the way that they were not comfortable with, and 464 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: it was coming from this crazy, puritanical, patriarchal, misogynistic place. 465 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: I know, it sounds like we're just throwing around all 466 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: these adjectives, but it's like there, I think it's like 467 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: it's important to um. I don't think it's a it's 468 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: a chicken or the egg thing. I think like it 469 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: starts at the fucking dirt bags who ask her about 470 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: her tits when she's sucking eighteen years old. Truly believe that. 471 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: And the reason why we're it sounds like we're throwing 472 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: around these adjectives is because we now at this time 473 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: have the vocabulary to talk about it this way. So 474 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: when the issue comes up, we're gonna use that vocabulary 475 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: and like like so people be on like yeah, yeah, 476 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: arrive in a little late. Fuck you. It's like, no, 477 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: fuck you, because at least we're having the conversation because 478 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: it should be had, because this woman is in danger now, 479 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: Like did you have like the vocabulary around mental health 480 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven when she was at her lowest? 481 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: Like if you did, then great, if you like if 482 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: you We are in this new sort of baseline. We've 483 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: caught up to some new baseline and as a culture, thankfully, 484 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: where we like understand each other when we throw words 485 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: around like this. Back then, at whatever whatever age you were, 486 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: there was no collective societal like awareness around is this 487 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: woman's well being being considered? Exactly? And I mean, you 488 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: know what, I was really happy that they brought up 489 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: was the proximity to the Lewinsky scandal with all of 490 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: this that was really I thought important in terms of 491 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: points that were made by the documentary because no one 492 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: was sticking up for Monica Lewinsky at that time. Let's 493 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: really no one, and so what was happening with Britney 494 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: Spears was in many ways like a more, at least 495 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: on face value, lighthearted way of shaming a woman for 496 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: for being sexual, because we had it in such a 497 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: dark way with Monica Lewinsky, who was only you know, 498 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: she was younger than and and got all of this, 499 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: and it's really interesting to look at it in the 500 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: in the frame of Britney Spears, because Britney Spears was like, 501 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, obviously bubble gum pop and she sort of 502 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: got like what was weirdly enough like in comparison to 503 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Monica with Lewinsky, like a bubble gum pop version of 504 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: misogyny where it wasn't like fuck this hore. Monica Lewinsky, 505 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: she is a Heartlet look at her with her raven 506 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: hair and her you know, she obviously stopped in there 507 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: and she knew what she was doing. It was like 508 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: a lighthearted misogyny of so what's up with your boobies? 509 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: Like and and like then her sorry but going on 510 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: SNL and the monologue joke being her tits moving around, 511 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like all these things and like 512 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: you hear the late night jokes and it's it's weird. 513 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: It's it's weird, and it would never happen now, So 514 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: it is important to call it out now and and 515 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: and understand that that is the root of all this, 516 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: because when we talk about Britney Spears now, what we 517 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: all have to understand is that we have been as 518 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: a society conditioned to speak not just about women, but 519 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: specifically about her in a certain way. And there is 520 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: remnants of that when we talk about her now. So 521 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: when you say the words Britney Spears to many, many 522 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: millions of people, the first thing that comes to their 523 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: mind is not the Free Britney movement or how the 524 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: importantly music was to them, or the fact that she 525 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: it'says she's crazy. It's that she drove around with a 526 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: baby on her lab and oh my god, isn't she 527 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: a terrible money saved the head And by the way, 528 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: like watching that moment play out again in the dock 529 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: reminded me of when A d was on the show 530 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: and she was like, I've never related more to a 531 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: celebrity than that moment, because because she was like, fuck 532 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: you famous, bullshit, it's destroying who I am as a person, 533 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: and you guys don't have access to the person that 534 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: you thought I was ever again, And like, honestly, like 535 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: it makes total sense, it makes total sense why she 536 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: would and like her getting the umbrella, I'm like, I 537 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: think I clapped at the screen. I was like, that's 538 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: actually incredible that she did that, because funk that dude 539 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: who they interviewed, Like I'm people who took issue with 540 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: him being interviewed and included in the documentary, the videographer 541 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Slash Paparazzo, who like was there at that moment that 542 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: like one of her like Paparazzi. Um, but like that 543 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: fucking dude sucks. Who's just like no one if she did. 544 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: She never said to leave me alone. And then they're like, 545 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: what about all the times that we have on tape 546 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: of her saying leave me alone? She just meant her 547 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: that day scared out of here. It's truly, and honestly, 548 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: that US Weekly photo editor too, I was like, you 549 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: were and he like he had the smugness about him tour. 550 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no no, no, no no, no, no, no, 551 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: you were part of this apparatus that like destroyed this 552 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: woman's life. Yes, to understand, it's exactly what you said. 553 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: The overarching thing is like capitalism, Like there shouldn't be 554 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: a system in place where incentivizes photography to the point 555 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: of a million dollar picture being a thing in paparazzi culture, 556 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: Like that should not be the like motivating engine behind 557 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: all this, and yet here we are. But like you 558 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: could have at least like stopped it there. I don't know, yeah, 559 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: And I mean it's exactly what you said earlier, which 560 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: is it's that individualism versus collectivism. Because now these guys 561 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: clearly no, they clearly know that they were part of 562 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: something that destroyed this woman or you know, cause her 563 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: to be in a situation that she's in now. And 564 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: they will do like Simone Biles level gymnastics to fucking 565 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: absolve themselves of wrongdoing. It is crazy. They will stop 566 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: at nothing. No one can just be like, you know what, 567 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: I was wrong, and I could try to justify it 568 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: by saying it was a livelihood and it was a 569 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: good livelihood. I thought we had a relationship that we 570 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know I was harming. Whether or not 571 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: that's true, obviously, they need to examine a lat about 572 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: their lives if they believe that. But they should come 573 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: out and say, you know what, I was wrong. And 574 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: I think there are tons of people that should come 575 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: out and say I was wrong. I think that we 576 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: should have a statement from Justin timber Where is Justin 577 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Timberlake's ally ship for Britney Spears? Now after he made 578 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: his solo career off of her back, which he did 579 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: because let's not mint words here. He had a fine 580 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: debut album. There's definitely some bops. Like Justin Timberlake is 581 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: a talented man, He's multitalented, but that does not just 582 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: make a pop superstar in an individual capacity. He needed 583 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: a narrative, and his narrative was fuck Britney Spears, who 584 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: cheated on me, and then he sold her out and 585 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: said that she had been lying about her virginity when 586 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: he went on the radio and said that he had 587 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: sex with her. So that was a dirt bag move. 588 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: And he is culturally aging very poorly because we haven't 589 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: even talked about the Janet stuff. And yes, he did 590 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: come out and say, you know, he did the bare 591 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: minimum and said, I believe that women are especially black 592 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: women are treated differently, and but he he did not 593 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: do enough to like try to help, and he's certainly 594 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: not saying or doing enough now for the woman who 595 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: without him, he would not be where he's at. And 596 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: it's fucked up. She Brittany did not need Justin. Justin 597 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: needed Brittany that say that that is the real truth? 598 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: What is what was that? Anyway? James? Anyway? James? And 599 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: I what was that? What was that? Okay? Okay, James, James, 600 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: we're sort of starting to talk about Wendy now the 601 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: other documentary. We need to talk about Justin? Um, yeah, 602 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: which is what are your thoughts? I mean, we need 603 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: to talk about Justin And I just feel like I 604 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: remember he was absolutely silent, And meanwhile, Janet was the 605 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: one who was going out, was going to all these 606 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: talk shows doing all I remember, like Janet Jackson went 607 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: on fucking Conan like two weeks after the whole Super 608 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: Bowl happened, and I was like, wait, why is even 609 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: as a kid, I was like, this is not her responsibility. 610 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: She does not have to clean up this mess when 611 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: even as a kid, I was like, but we talked 612 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: about it at school the next day. We were like, 613 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: but justin tore away the breast plate, she ripped her 614 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: clothes off of her, and it was like it was 615 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: like part of the staging. But like he ripped his 616 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: her clothes off of her and then he had to 617 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: he didn't answer for it at all, Like when, like 618 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: when did he even say the whole like black women 619 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: are treated differently, Like like what twenty years after the fact, 620 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: like fifteen or something he's quoted as saying, And I 621 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: believe it happened right after. Like the fact of the 622 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: matter is like she had her historic career ended basically 623 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: like in the way that it was. I mean, you're 624 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: talking about someone who's performing the Super Bowl, like that 625 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: is the biggest moment of someone's career and very a 626 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: handful of people would even be considered for that. And 627 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: because this thing that it took two to tango to execute, 628 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: she was completely ruined. And then that was like you know, 629 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: on the way up for him, like he got huge. 630 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean there was a time where he was the biggest. Meanwhile, 631 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: she was wearing this like fantastic like Corser Tree whatever, 632 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: and he is literally out there in a gray T shirt. 633 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm like a fucking dirt colored button down. Like I'm sorry, 634 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: but that I mean that is also illustrative of something 635 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: where it's like men don't have men can show up 636 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: looking like fucking shit at these events, these huge events 637 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: are watched by tens and tens of millions of millions 638 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: of people. Let's just say it. I mean, it's because 639 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: he's attractive and white, he can do whatever he wants 640 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: and straight forget it, you know what I mean, like 641 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: like like this type of like sort of rat pack 642 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: throwback thing he was doing. Let's also not ignore the 643 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: fact that like not only did he make his career 644 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: off the back of Britney Spears and that narrative, but 645 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: like he was doing R and B music and like yeah, 646 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: like you know, not to say that white people can't 647 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: do R and B music, I don't believe that that's true, 648 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: but it felt like it felt like it felt like 649 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: a more palatable version of what black artists had been 650 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: doing for decades at that point, and it was just like, hey, 651 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: here's not to make this. This is a very lazy comparison. 652 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: But here's like a La La Land jazz Ryan Gosling 653 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: doing jazz version of I don't know. You know, it's 654 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: like here's what you're saying, a white boy doing rat 655 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: pack looks and then R and B sort of stylings 656 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: in my in my music. I just think he is not. 657 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: He is not. It's just funny now because he is 658 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: so he's now for he's now like dad pop, you 659 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I can't stop the feeling. 660 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: It's like you know what I mean. It's very sort 661 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: of like mainstream like Ellen would play it um not 662 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: cool um, but he it's just so funny to see 663 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: him age poorly because now it's like if you actually 664 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: look back and like really assess why he is as 665 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: big as he is, Like it's not great, it's not 666 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: the record is is really suspect. It's it's not good, um, 667 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: and get a fucking jade roller, honey to lift the 668 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: babs under the eyes. I'm sorry, it's well, it's just 669 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: so funny because like it was never more but about too, 670 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: because it was never more apparent than he was like 671 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: such a white dude when he started aging is badly, 672 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: Like oh, like the Man of the Woods thing like 673 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: he had to do a Man of the Woods because 674 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: he needed to justify looking like hell like like curdled. 675 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: He truly looks curdled. Now, Okay, Hans says, there's some 676 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: awful clips from the right Carpet where journalists are asking 677 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: Jessica Biel questions and he keeps jumping into talk for her. Yeah, 678 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: because he can't help himself. I mean that that that 679 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: type of person has aged poorly, you know what I'm 680 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: saying that, Like, Hey, aren't I like I remember even 681 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: like at that. This is such a crazy example. Specific example, 682 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: this is the two thousand ten Emmy's and Tina Fey 683 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: had won an Emmy for thirty Rock for writing for 684 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: Outstanding Writing in a Comedy Television Show, and Justin, for 685 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: whatever reason, was presenting Justin. Timber looks at the Emmy's 686 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: shirt he's presenting for Outstanding Writing in a Comedy Television Series. 687 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: Tina fe wins, and he like presents her the awards 688 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: and then set of and and as Tina walks up 689 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: to the mic, he like but like jumps in and goes, 690 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish, like does the whole Kanye 691 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: bit which is at that point a year old and 692 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: even and as a college student. It was like what 693 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: are you doing? Just let the woman And then Tina 694 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: had to like do the whole like, oh, I'm Taylor 695 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: Swift Taha, stop doing bits. Stopped doing bits. I mean 696 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: j T as comedian was a whole thing. We we 697 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: gave him too much power in that moment. We were like, oh, great, 698 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: he's like doing all these funny sketches with like Andy 699 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: Samberg and he's doing all these fun bits with like 700 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: he's he's a great SNL host. But then like, you 701 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: can't let the train run two wild on that one 702 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: on on someone like that who has been affirmed his 703 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: entire life. You gotta pump the brakes a little bit 704 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: when you, like when he's in this new venture where 705 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, maybe calm down. You know who's also 706 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: a great fucking SNL host, Brittney Spirit. I'm so happy 707 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: you said it because I was then thinking the same thing. 708 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: I was like, Brittany was a Gangbusters SNL host. It's 709 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 1: because these Disney stars. I'm waiting for Zenda at a host. 710 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: She'll be fantastic. Olivia Rodrigo some day. Yes, Uh, we 711 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: need the star to come Olivia. But my thing is 712 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: just like they're always like Christina was a great SNL 713 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: Hostina was great, And it's just so funny because they're 714 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: so pumped out to do that that it's like, yes, 715 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: they were great, Can we stop acting like we should 716 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: put him on that goddamn cast, Like no, it's fine. 717 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: People can come and be great hosts. Um. But it 718 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: actually reminded me Um when we were talking about Christina, 719 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: like just to leave the j t of it all 720 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: for a second, because you can't really talk about like 721 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: Brittany at that time without talking about Christina. And I 722 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: always feel like the treatment that was given to Brittany 723 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: at the time when she was like number one and 724 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: Christina was numbered too, just because of the way they 725 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: came out like no shape. Actually like Christina had just 726 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 1: as many, if not more, number one hits. That's actually true, 727 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: But it felt like Christina had to go so far, 728 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: like like she couldn't tow the line of like I'm 729 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: coy with my sexuality. It's like very much here in present, 730 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: like she had to be like I am my album 731 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: is called stripped, I'm in fact filthy, I'm the the 732 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: the music video for Dirty is about getting a yeast infection. 733 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: It was like, I'm Phil C and this is me 734 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: and I love it video. I've never seen anything please filthier, 735 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean that and the best Oh it's absolutely holds up. 736 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 1: But the music video is truly like slimy, grimy sex 737 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: and it's so hot and I've never seen anything like 738 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: it since Noe. Like she did, she did fully full 739 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: tilt go into I'm a fucking sexual being, yes, and 740 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: I responded to it. I was younger, I was like, 741 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like, wow, yeah, for sure, I'm 742 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: out of the two of them. I always was like 743 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: not not that I actually well not, that's that's true 744 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: because when people were like you team Brittany, your team Christina, 745 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: I was always like, I'm team ex Tina because I 746 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: just always I really loved how hard she went for it. 747 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: And I always loved the vocals. I mean, like, I'm 748 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: someone that appreciates the vocals. But it was so interesting 749 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: to think about Christina in watching this documentary because she 750 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: she was so like not forced to, but it felt 751 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: like she had to occupy a space that was that 752 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: was something completely different from Brittany. And when Brittany was 753 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: made to feel like self conscious or like her sexuality 754 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: was something to be like, uh coy about Christina was like, oh, 755 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: there's no way, and that kind of unfortunately for Brittany, 756 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: like that was probably the more like self preserving way 757 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: to go. But overall, Christina approached her sexuality in a 758 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: way that was much much, much more confident. In Brittany's 759 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: was I'm being sexy in spite of what people expected me. 760 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: Christina is like, I don't care what people expect of me. 761 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: This is not this is not pushing back against something. 762 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: This is just who I am and who I want 763 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: to be. Well both yes, absolutely, and both of them 764 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: on those albums that came out at that at those times, 765 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: like obviously Stripped is a huge is literally a response 766 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: to media coverage of her, and so Slave for You 767 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: feels like lyrically literally it explores I may come off 768 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: a certain way, but I'm actually this and I'm sexual 769 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: in this way, and it almost makes me feel like 770 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: that makes sense that Slave for You came out before 771 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: before Dirty, because if they were already thinking we're gonna 772 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: take Christina in a more overtly sexual direction, and then 773 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: Brittany came out with slave for you. They were like, 774 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: all right, well, we gotta get the hens from the henhouse, 775 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: we gotta get pigs in here, we gotta make sure 776 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: that everyone's who can spit in someone else's mouth in 777 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: the background, Like it was like it was like a 778 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: Petri dish mama, and like because because they were in 779 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: competition with each other. Meanwhile, you've got Jessica Simpsons over 780 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: there being like Jesus Christ is one of my best friends, 781 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: Like why my god. I just have to say there 782 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: was a period of time even in college like two thousand, 783 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 1: shoot that I mean, but it was end of high 784 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: school into college, but two seven into like two leven 785 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: when Them Fatale came out, that I was that Brittany 786 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: was my number one even even before Gaga at the time. 787 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: It's you know what's funny like that that through line 788 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: is very followed. It's like Brittany Gaga for people, it's 789 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: really funny. But even but even for me, it was like, um, 790 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: it was just that like me having this loyalty to 791 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: her because of all she had been through and I 792 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: and I was following the conservatorship bullshit when Blackout came 793 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: out because I was like, this is an incredible album. 794 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: Like even in high school, I was like I would 795 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: like turn my my friend Emily Nupper and I'd be like, wait, 796 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: this album is incredible. Every song is amazing. What's going on? 797 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Isn't it so sad that she's going through what she's 798 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: going through? She can't promote it. They give me more 799 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: video is whatever. And then like that Summer Piece of 800 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: Me came out or whatever, that Winter Piece Ofdney came 801 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: out and then she won the v m A. But 802 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: I was just following her life so closely. I was 803 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: on the message boards. I would never post on them, 804 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: but I was on Breathe on me dot com, which 805 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: was like the main Brittany Spears like new so I 806 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: was I'm telling you daily. I was following up on 807 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: the Brittany news and everyone being like I remember like 808 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: before Tale was announced, it was like all of all 809 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: of like the insiders are saying, it's blackout two point out, 810 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: it's blackout two point out, And that was like the like, 811 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: if they're a fellow like Britney Spears fans out there 812 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: of that time, who can confirm this, please like give 813 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: a shout out on Twitter or something, because I remember 814 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: when fem Fatale. Before the title came out, everyone was like, 815 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: it's it's blackout two point out. It's like club bangers 816 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: and honestly, fem Fatale amazing album. Till the world ends. 817 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 1: Hold it against me. I want to go? I want 818 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: to go is joke? Um big lace on that one 819 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: leather and laces circus like like you understand, Like I 820 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: don't think you know this that well about me? No, 821 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 1: I know that you're a Brittany boy. I love Brittany. 822 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: I love Brittany so much. What's your favorite music video? Goo, 823 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think her. I think one of the 824 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: best music videos of all time is Toxic Toxic. I 825 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: think that Toxic is one of the best pop songs 826 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: of all time. I think it's one of the best 827 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: music videos of all time. I will never going, just 828 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: going era by era. I think like I loved obviously, 829 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: maybe one more Time is maybe one more Time and 830 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: it is synonymous with pop perfection, and it is synonymous 831 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: with the birth of Brittany and then moving forward, I 832 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: loved Off, I did it again. I would listen to 833 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: Lucky Time. I love Lucky In fact, when we used 834 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: to do like Henry and I said at at Um 835 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: at the two plus, I would sing Lucky all the time. 836 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: I love Lucky, Lucky needs like a renaissance. Lucky needs 837 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: a renaissance. That music video just so good her hair 838 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: and that music video as Lucky, I remember, I remember 839 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: that was when I was at the age it was 840 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: nine years old. Radio Disney was the ship we didn't 841 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: it was it was still terrestrial radio times and I 842 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: would listen to that would I didn't know how to 843 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: buy it offline where parents went and let yes by 844 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: the CDs because they were like Britney Spears is too 845 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: sexy even like growing up, but like if my sister 846 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: snuck in or somehow convinced my parents to buy Baby 847 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: Warm more time and did not have the second album, 848 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: did not have Brittany um in the Zone we bought 849 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: in China and then black Out I bought my because 850 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: I was in high school by then. But anyway, yes, Lucky, okay, 851 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: keep going so for then going forward, it's like my 852 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: favorite album of her. I kind of didn't love Brittany 853 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: the album like I just thought it was it was 854 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: not the first two. But that being said, like there's 855 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: great stuff on there, but my favorite Brittany album when 856 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: I of that time of her in the Zone. Was 857 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: in the Zone, I mean for me, I loved breathe 858 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: on me. I loved my hand, touch of my hand, 859 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: I loved I even love Outrageous. I loved Outrageous. I 860 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: loved um what I got that boom boom, outrageous. Outrageous 861 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: was supposed to be um the fourth single or the 862 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,479 Speaker 1: single the single that ended up getting cut, the single 863 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: that is supposed to be out after every Time, which 864 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: every time incredible. Oh my god? Wait did we used 865 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 1: to say that when we were going so we would 866 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, yes, that's almost And obviously 867 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: talk stickers on that one. And I loved that and 868 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: also that every time every time, I'm telling you the 869 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: music video for every Time, Brittany, it's it's the most artistic, 870 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: like sort of like film music video, but she's giving 871 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: you a really fucking good performance. Yeah. She was great. 872 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: Stephen Dorf so hot in that video in the Zone. 873 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: Incredible album top to bottom, truly, that was that was 874 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: like Imperial phase Brittany to me. Yeah, and I'll never 875 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: forget that cover with that like blue pink like it 876 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: was like I just like and I also loved it 877 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: because it felt like she was the most excited, Like 878 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: I felt like she had taken the time to like, 879 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: by the way, this is the Brittany episode and that 880 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: might be the time this is um, but for me, 881 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: it's like that esthetic, that confidence. And then when I 882 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: remember the first single was obviously me against the music, 883 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: which was her Madonna moment. And then that came with 884 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: all of the bullshit with the v m as with 885 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,919 Speaker 1: them kissing and stuff, and again everyone threw everyone off, 886 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: and like that was sort of like them understanding exactly 887 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: what the media was gonna do when they gave me that, 888 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: and who is the provocateur original than Madonna to like 889 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: do that with Madonna, do that with Brittany and featuring 890 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: Christina because she really got the shaft in terms of 891 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: coverage on that one cut to Beyonce and justin they 892 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: cut to Justice then, but then Beyonce the next day 893 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: or that the that week in the media was like 894 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: I am disgust. I was disgusted. I was disgusted, which 895 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: we have to say. And also the fact that there 896 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: talk about another one that's always been here beyond um. 897 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, like when that was all going down, like 898 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: I remember me AGAs the music like I did not 899 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: Love as a first single, and then when Toxic came out, 900 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, get it. The James Bond strings 901 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: the video. How many cuts there are in the video 902 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: like that, It's like a comic book. That song I 903 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: just remember felt like I felt like art in a way, 904 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: everything if it felt like pop, songs like that felt 905 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: like art. Also, I want to shout out the song 906 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: don't let Me Be the Last to Know, a rare 907 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: Brittany ballad, which I love, and she performed that on 908 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: SNL Live she did. But don't let Me Don't let 909 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: Me Be the Last to Know? Is that was a 910 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: long time ago. That was upscited it again? That was 911 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 1: Upsite did it again? It was not on in the Zone. 912 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't want to. I didn't want to be 913 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: going through and not say that song because I do 914 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: love that song. And then in the later years times 915 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes the music video for sometimes when they're just 916 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: all in white and just like the crop tops Mama, 917 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: so beute. I mean, like what that like evokes a feeling, 918 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely like at the time you're like, this 919 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: is what love is, and it kind of is a 920 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: beautiful love song. Sometimes I run, sometimes I hide. Sometimes 921 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm scared of you. But all I really want it's 922 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: a time bridge. Just hang around and you'll say there's 923 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: nowhere around a be ma. Just I'm like so bad today. 924 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, um, that song was unreal And also you 925 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: know what I think could be a hit right now? 926 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: What Stronger? Oh yeah, I was stronger right now. I 927 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: think it would kill. That is a sleigh and a half. 928 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean Peppermint, Like with the reveal of Season nine finale, 929 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: that was stronger right, like unbelievable, like it matched, it 930 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: almost matched. I would say that like like it's like emotions, 931 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: like so emotional with with like but I'm saying like 932 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: they didn't match completely. But it's like in terms of 933 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: like huge pop songs like that like are built for 934 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: moments like that, like oh my god, it doesn't get 935 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: it done, and it's it's like you would you would 936 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: forgive an album that only had that one hit on it, 937 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: like but it was like it was, yeah, oh my god, 938 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: unreal and then moving through time like Blackout. Blackout is 939 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: so great, I mean like for me, like I think honestly, 940 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: one of her better albums of all time is Glory 941 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 1: which I just came the production on Glory. Yeah, why 942 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: you laugh. I feel like Glory, between you and me 943 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: and our friends has been this like punchline but actually 944 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: not a joke. We like all keyed into do You 945 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: Want to Come Over? Recently one of the most important 946 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: songs of all time. It's actually one of the most 947 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: important songs of all time, and I dare I challenged 948 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: the reader right now to put on do you Want 949 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: to Come Over? By Britney Spears from the album Glory, 950 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: her latest most recent album that came out like what 951 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: like five years ago now it came out. There was 952 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: a re release that came out right, I'm sure because 953 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 1: it was like a money grab because she was like, 954 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not making music anymore until my dad's off the conservativeship. 955 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: They're like, well, we still gotta make money somehow. Anyway, Um, 956 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: do you want to come over? Put that on? And 957 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: if it and walk around in a circle and if 958 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: you are not like skipping and getting your fucking life 959 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: to that song, honey, you ain't human. They need to 960 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: do that as a lip sync on drag Race and 961 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: you know who I think would have killed it, like 962 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: for some reason. No, the entire well yeah, because she 963 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: would kill everything. But the entire of Season ten, I 964 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: was like, I hope we finally get do you want to? 965 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: Do you want to Come Over? The lips sting so 966 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: Aquaria could do it because I think Aquario would kill 967 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: do you want to Come Over? And I bet she 968 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 1: knows it? And and on that album, I also really 969 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: like this single which was make Me, and also this 970 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: which which nick Me and just if you literally just 971 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: like smoke a little weed, lay on your back, like 972 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: and just put on the album Glory, just starting with 973 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: track one invitation, like the production will fuck you up 974 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: if you get some good here, good good headphones and 975 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: play the album. It's really good. And she is right there, 976 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: she's she's there. And Slumber Party with to Nach excellent, 977 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: excellent and music video actually too. Yeah, And I do 978 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: love Private Show. Private Show is fun. It's it's so 979 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: like it's but slumber Party with Tona, Like it's reminiscent 980 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: of the Boys music video where they're just it's a 981 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: long table and like they're both like crawling towards each other. 982 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: It's like really fun. Um Circus I think is fantastic. 983 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: Circus is amazing. What's her favorites on Circus because there's 984 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: some butt if you see gave me. I'm so glad 985 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: they did it on drag Race this season did not 986 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: only really really really fucking delivered. I think that is 987 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 1: one of her underappreciated music videos where she is kind 988 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: of giving you corio. It's the most Corey that she'd 989 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: given more Corea in that that she'd given the Circus video, 990 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: I would say. And she's doing like fun corea and 991 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: it's just her like in this like gross house in 992 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: the morning after a party, but she's like giving you 993 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: fun little moments, and then she gets dressed and like 994 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: turns into a housewife. And then there's like little like 995 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: easter eggs where like her daughter, and the end of 996 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: the music video is in the baby warmer time outfit, 997 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: and it's like she like has to present herself as 998 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: this like all American woman and while all the paparazzi 999 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: are are like flashing her cameras outside and she's and 1000 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,879 Speaker 1: she's just like she's giving you a really good performance 1001 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: star quality, like you can teach this, Like yeah, she's 1002 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: one of the best music video music video pop star actresses. 1003 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: Like she is up there. So she's such a star. 1004 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, she's a star. She's so watchable. That album has. 1005 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: One of my favorites that doesn't get talked about enough 1006 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: is Kill the Lights and also Killed Yeah, Lace and 1007 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: Leather and I love um uh. Blur is great. I 1008 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: can't remember what I did last night and everything everything 1009 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: is do there and then Radar the only song to 1010 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: beyond two different albums. Yeah, do you do you have 1011 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: any information on why that was? I think they wanted 1012 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: to like make that like a full single from black Out, 1013 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: but they were like, this song is too fucking good, 1014 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: you have to put it on circuits. And then they 1015 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: shot a music videofore where again Britney's turns into really 1016 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: good music video performance, like during the bridge where she's 1017 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: just like, you know, she's she's just at like a 1018 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: Derby or something, and she's in this giant sun hat 1019 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: and she is like really giving it to you, and 1020 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, what a star? What a star? Okay, sorry, 1021 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: this it really is the Brittany episode. Okay, moving on, 1022 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: we completely we completely did not even about Brittany Jean, 1023 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: which has I'm not skipping it, but I feel like 1024 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: we talked about Glory and I just wanted to say 1025 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: that and I know you love this song even though 1026 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: it's like perfume. So wait realtical and by draw anata, 1027 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: have you a little bit to think? You about me? 1028 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: We need Patty Harrison to cover it. Yes, it is 1029 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: a Patty hair. If she doesn't cover it, she's done. 1030 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: She's done. I mean, it's not it's not a great album. 1031 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: It's probably her weakest between Brittany Jean and Pemptal was 1032 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: when she did um uh Scream and Chot with William 1033 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: which is truly like a camp classic to me. But 1034 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: it's just her in a Britta in a crazy British accent, 1035 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 1: chanting in the set, and this whole era was weird. 1036 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: This is when she went on X Factor. This is 1037 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: when I started to feel like, what is going on? 1038 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: But she was. It seemed like she was having fun. 1039 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: I seem like she was having fun on X Factor. 1040 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Till the world ends. There is a 1041 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: different cut of the music video where it's the choreography 1042 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: at it the choreography cut, and it's phenomenal. I might 1043 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: launch it tonight. Oh my god, it's true. That is 1044 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: an incredible fucking song. Brittany is one of those ones 1045 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: where you could fall into a YouTube wormhole and just 1046 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: park it. Just park it, because let let the playlist 1047 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: guide you, let the automated playlist guide you to park it. Yeah, 1048 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 1: it's really truly, I mean not, I mean even Brittany 1049 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: Gean is like, if that's the weakest album, which I 1050 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: would agree, it still has songs that I really enjoy. 1051 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, well okay, and then Feminitile this 1052 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 1: is the last thing I'll mention them. Fatale has two 1053 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: songs that are from um, the producers of Toxic. She 1054 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: had like not worked with them until them fatal again, Um, 1055 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: how I Roll and Tripped Your Heart like excellent songs 1056 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: that are just like beautifully produced, really like wonderful, wonderful, 1057 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: wonderful songwriting. I don't know, I just like and how 1058 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: so good, so good. Okay, we can we can move 1059 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: on now and talk about miss Wendy Williams Shall It's 1060 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: it's it's just such a it's such a downgrade because 1061 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: it's you know what, it's it's almost interesting that they 1062 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: both had documentaries come out. I mean, Britty had nothing 1063 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: to do with hers obviously, and Wendy executive produced hers, 1064 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: which should should mean you watch it with a raised 1065 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 1: eyebrow because the subject is also the ep um, which is, 1066 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, definitely a vibe. But it's like you're talking 1067 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: about someone who has been the focus of so much 1068 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: bloyd gossip and paparazzi minded, you know, the celebrity consumption 1069 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: of it all, and then literally someone who rose to 1070 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: the traitor doing that. I mean, we're not over if here. 1071 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 1: Being like, Wendy Williams is an incredible person. She is 1072 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: one of the best memes of all time. Okay, I 1073 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: mean she's she's given us a lot, but she's also 1074 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: given us a lot of like truly soul crushing, lye 1075 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: dark moments where she'll side with she'll side with sexual 1076 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: predators or whatever, or she'll like blame victims of assault 1077 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 1: when meanwhile she is also herself a victim of assault. 1078 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: It's it's just twitch, I mean, but this is like 1079 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: the cycle of assault sometimes is that Like it just 1080 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: it like makes you think that, well, other people should 1081 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: also go through the same thing I went through in 1082 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: some cases. I don't want to speak on Wendy's behalf, 1083 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 1: but it feels like there's something being cycled through when 1084 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: she's talking about someone else who is a victim of Yeah, 1085 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm always nervous watching her, not because I 1086 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 1: feel like not because I feel like, um, I'm nervous 1087 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: about her delivering anything or I've never, never, never worried 1088 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: about her landing the plane. But I just feel like 1089 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: she's so often wrong, She's so often incorrect, and I'm like, 1090 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: I am not out here saying that I'm like the 1091 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: fucking bearer of the truth all the time, Like I've 1092 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: been wrong on this podcast all the time. But but 1093 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: she is, like she's got such a huge platform, and 1094 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: like the way that her audience will just agree with 1095 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: everything she says. I'm like, there, this is a tough 1096 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: this is a weird thing because she does hold some 1097 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: odd positions and she is problematic a ton of the time, 1098 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: and so she'll say this ship and the whole audience 1099 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: will just be like yeah, yeah, absolutely, and you're like, 1100 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: wait what. And I do respect her because I think 1101 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: you have to respect someone who is created an empire 1102 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: like this. And I don't know, like, has she been 1103 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: harmful towards people? Yes, um, I think that I think probably. 1104 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not in her head, but I 1105 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: would imagine a lot of the Whitney stuff probably keeps 1106 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: her up at night. I don't know that even I 1107 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: don't know that it does. I think she she was 1108 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 1: very upset when when Whitney passed. Of course she was 1109 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: upset when Whitney passed. But like she she kind of 1110 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: in the documentary even like uses that as a point 1111 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: of like. That was one of my proudest moments was 1112 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: that Whitney interview when we caught her on we we 1113 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: got her on tape when she didn't know she was 1114 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 1: being on tape, and like we had Wendy like talk 1115 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: about crack and talks. It was just like, oh, wait, 1116 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: you might have some remorse about the way that you 1117 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 1: specifically like broke some seals on the one on the 1118 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Whitney Houston like conversation and the zygeis. But you also 1119 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: are brandishing that as like a point of pride. Yeah, 1120 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 1: you're saying that it was an achievement that as a 1121 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 1: result of your involvement with her, people found out about 1122 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: her drug abuse. Yeah, it's I don't know, it's tough. 1123 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: It's tough. You don't know about that one. I'm gonna 1124 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to think on that one. You're gonna have 1125 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: to think on that one gonna you're gonna have to 1126 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: consider that one. Did you end up watching the biopic? 1127 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I didn't. I couldn't really get through the biopic, although 1128 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 1: um uh, that actress is phenomenal. She was great, and 1129 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 1: so I think you watched the documentary and I watched 1130 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: the biopic, and that was the way Lost Cold was 1131 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: going to cover this. Um. I did try to watch 1132 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: the documentary, but I could not take any more Wendy 1133 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Williams content after the biopic. It was just too much. Um. 1134 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Sierra Payton, who plays Wendy Say, does a great performance. 1135 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 1: Like she she manages to be grounded. And this is 1136 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 1: my take on the whole Wendy of it all. It's 1137 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,479 Speaker 1: like with the biopic, it's like she's gone through so 1138 01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 1: much real shit, like she was raped. Um, her husband 1139 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: was like you know, philanthroper, Like you know, it was 1140 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: not easy for her professionally. You know, she like one 1141 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: thing after another, and it's so it's so funny to 1142 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: watch all this real ship happened to her because she 1143 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: is such a caricature. She's like a heightened cartoon. It's 1144 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 1: like watching a biopic about bugs Bunny. You find out 1145 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: about his bankruptcy. You know what I mean. It's like, 1146 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: it's like I'm with this person, and thank god they 1147 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: got a great actress to play her because she was 1148 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: able to ground it. Because it's literally like watching a 1149 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 1: biopick of a cartoon, but she's able to ground it. 1150 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but are we like venturing into dangerous territory 1151 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: by like dehumanizing Wendy Williams. The person may being like 1152 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: she's a cartoon character when we're like we should like 1153 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 1: we should we did that to Brittany. I'm not saying 1154 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 1: it's the same. I'm not I'm not drawing that Equivalencyeve, 1155 01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,040 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, are we are we justifying 1156 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: any sort of like treatment or conversation around Wendy Williams. 1157 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I think that Wendy Williams knows that she has created 1158 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 1: a persona which is how you do it, which is 1159 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: all these things, which is you know, and she she you. 1160 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 1: They show in the bio biopic like she went out 1161 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: of her way to get huge tits. She wanted to 1162 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 1: walk into every room and everyone say, there's Wendy. Like 1163 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: she created a larger than life persona and she embodies 1164 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: that all the time. So when I say it's like 1165 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 1: watching a biopic of a cartoon character, what I truly 1166 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: only mean is her persona is so good, yes and 1167 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: so and so much of what she is known for 1168 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 1: is like I mean, And this is another thing. It's 1169 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: like when you when everyone saw her in the Statue 1170 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: of Liberty Guiche and she fainted. If you if, if 1171 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: you're as the viewer, if your only thing you thought was, oh, 1172 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 1: I hope she's okay. Good for you, bitch, but I 1173 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 1: guarantee you left, guarantee you left. And if you didn't 1174 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 1: and you're in denial about it personally, for me, you 1175 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: can go fund yourself because I think you're a liar 1176 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: and I think that you're trying to just say about 1177 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 1: the fray re the whole well, I never thought it 1178 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: was funny what they did to Brittany shut up, like genuinely, 1179 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 1: because there is comedy when it comes to Wendy Williams's 1180 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: state of being, like she is larger than life on purpose. 1181 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,919 Speaker 1: It's it's of her own mad like that. Yeah, I don't, Yeah, 1182 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean, like her like lighting a slim 1183 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: gym on fire and like having that be like a 1184 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 1: like a recurring bit where she's like, I'm a foodie 1185 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: and she's eating like a slim gym like I like 1186 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 1: early days Wendy Williams. I was like, I'm with this person. 1187 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: She is great and yes, she's such an icon of 1188 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: the radio, and she has all these amazing interviews and 1189 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: she's like the Howard stern of of like she's like 1190 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: a female Howard stern Um. And then on the show 1191 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 1: it really became and I'm so glad and they they 1192 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: actually touched on this moment in the documentary. The omar 1193 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Rosa interview was like the first or second week of 1194 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: the show, and like you've seen most of us, I 1195 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: have seen it. They were together, they were great together, 1196 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: but but they touched on a moment where like a 1197 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 1: switch in Wendy flips when omar Rosa says, you know, 1198 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: it's interesting seeing you on TV. I feel like you've 1199 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 1: lost a little bit of your edge, but maybe this 1200 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: is a new Endy. I like that. I like that, 1201 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 1: and the people in the orange like boom, boo boo, 1202 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,719 Speaker 1: and then they cut back to Wendy in her face 1203 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,799 Speaker 1: drops and I think from that moment on she was like, oh, 1204 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like Ellen, I'm gonna be a 1205 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: fucking I'm gonna I'm gonna do what I was doing 1206 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: on radio and just be this like persona that people 1207 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 1: will have a strong reaction to one we or the other, 1208 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 1: because that's how she that's her bread and butter. Yeah exactly. 1209 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: And then from then on, like the ship took off 1210 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: and and like yeah, I mean her like she she 1211 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,599 Speaker 1: did become this character. So okay, I I I understand 1212 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: what you're saying about the bugs bunny thing, and yes 1213 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: she is like it is like it is true and 1214 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: like her being in a statue of Liberty costume and 1215 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 1: fainting is on some level, she has to love that 1216 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: she featured it in the film in the bio. It 1217 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: was literally the clip that they showed to like promote 1218 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 1: the movie. She knows, she knows that there's something about 1219 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,960 Speaker 1: this that is unusual and not and there's something comedic 1220 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 1: about it. Like I've seen interviews with her promoting it 1221 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 1: where they'll be like showing where here's a clip from 1222 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the thing before we do the interview, and it's that 1223 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 1: clip and then they go, please welcome Wendy Williams and 1224 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: she comes out smile on her fucking face, you know 1225 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, she knows she's an EP of the movie, 1226 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Like again, she is in control of this product. Well, 1227 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: it's it's that that is the thing though. It's like 1228 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: at that point, you are your own PR agency, you 1229 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: are your own PR person, and like there's a skill 1230 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,560 Speaker 1: to that, and there's something to a gain from that, 1231 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: but there's also that's also scary. That's also like, oh heay, 1232 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 1: You're you're selling yourself as the product of something which 1233 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: is as as just a product. And I don't know, 1234 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but we love Wendy so much. I mean, 1235 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: she's given us, she's got a point, she's a point, 1236 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: she's an icon, she's a legend, and she is the moment. 1237 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: Now come on now. And the thing is too it's 1238 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 1: like I understand, I say, like I'm a little bit 1239 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: nervous to watch it because because I'm always wondering what 1240 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: she's gonna say. That's kind of the point, you know 1241 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, no one's going to watch Wendy 1242 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 1: Williams for the news. You're gonna watch many ways because 1243 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: you want to know what Wendy has to say about 1244 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: items in the news. Like you don't look you don't 1245 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 1: watch how topics to understand really what's happening with She's down. 1246 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 1: She's giving it later. She's not vox dot com. Yeah, 1247 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 1: she's giving a take. She is a commentator in a way. 1248 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: And you know, we did her interview at vultrafs when 1249 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: Vultures honored her, and she was very quiet, very quiet, 1250 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: very just very not closed off, but she was just 1251 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 1: like kind of like just just maybe just like a 1252 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,600 Speaker 1: little disoriented that day. I don't know, I mean that 1253 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 1: was right in the middle of the Kevin and I 1254 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 1: thought about that, um in watching the stuff. I was like, wow, 1255 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 1: this was really right around the time when Bowen and 1256 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I met her, because that was and then like all 1257 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: that ship went down in the fall or the summer 1258 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,640 Speaker 1: in the fall of that year. Yeah, and it was 1259 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: just like and she I don't think she mentioned Kevin Hunter, 1260 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 1: but she mentioned Kevin Jr. Her son um and how 1261 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 1: much she loves him, and like it was really kind 1262 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 1: of it was kind of a snooze of an interview. 1263 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 1: And that's probably on us because we didn't ask you 1264 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 1: the right questions maybe, but um, well we were, I 1265 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 1: mean we were kind of it was it wasn't like 1266 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: you can ask any questions you want. Of course it 1267 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,599 Speaker 1: had Oh yeah, because we did. We did. It was vetted, 1268 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: you know. Wasn't like Matt and bow and interviewing her. 1269 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: It was like us for Vulture interviewing her. It's just 1270 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: so funny to think I remember that moment and don't 1271 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 1: to go back to the Britney documentary, but remember that 1272 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 1: moment when Felicia like the assistant, such a fun character, 1273 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: such a fun lady, sweet woman. I remember her from 1274 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: back in the day the special. I remember her on 1275 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: like Brittany driven right right right, but like she holds 1276 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: up that photo of the two of them in Times Square, 1277 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,639 Speaker 1: like when like when like before, like like when Brittany 1278 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: was like signing the record deal. It's like, oh, like 1279 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,919 Speaker 1: to get like like I haven't seen like a Brittany 1280 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: photo of her as a teenager before fame, just being 1281 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: like a regular girl, a tourist in New York City. 1282 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,759 Speaker 1: She's a girl from Louisiana coming to visit the big city. 1283 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: And I was like, God, there's something so like just 1284 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 1: so precious and like lovely and like, oh God, like 1285 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 1: I like I wish that little girl like was was 1286 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 1: in I'm sure she is and there she was still 1287 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: but it's like, oh, like, this poor girl is in 1288 01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: for the right of her fucking life. It's like early 1289 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 1: often the word that gets used for Brittany, and I 1290 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 1: think we even used it in this episode as the 1291 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: word tragic, And I never like to say that word 1292 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to her or anyone, because there is 1293 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,440 Speaker 1: a finality in the word tragedy, because that, by definition 1294 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 1: of tragedy is something that ends in a death, and 1295 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 1: I feel like or ends poorly. And it's just like, 1296 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 1: we don't know how the Brittany story is gonna end. 1297 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: And you know, uh, it feels lame and weird to 1298 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 1: say this, but you hope that at least as a 1299 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: result of this documentary, more people can become aware of 1300 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 1: the situation that she's in and that we do need 1301 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,839 Speaker 1: to pashtag free Brittany, and that this is a serious 1302 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 1: problem and we do owe this woman that attention and 1303 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: that care because she did give us so much and 1304 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: she would still be if she felt safe to do that. 1305 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 1: And um uh you see, like even on Instagram, like 1306 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: she still has the desire too fun, be fun and 1307 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,559 Speaker 1: play and entertain and I just hope that this is 1308 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 1: not um the chapter that like is one of the 1309 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 1: final ones when it comes to Brittany not saying anything 1310 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 1: is going to happen to her, but that she wouldn't 1311 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: perform anymore because I do believe she wants to, and 1312 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 1: I just really want the stuff to get figured out, 1313 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 1: and I wish the best for her, and I I 1314 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 1: send all my love as I'm sure you do as well. 1315 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 1: I send my love. I send my love. And also, wait, 1316 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, it's so funny because we're 1317 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 1: talking about the Vulture thing, like after you got the 1318 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,439 Speaker 1: job at us to know, like I kind of kept 1319 01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: doing that. I went to Sundance to cover it for 1320 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 1: Vulture and you know who I met there? Who? Armie Hammer? 1321 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, girl, what have we There's nothing that 1322 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: we can there's nothing for us to really add the 1323 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: to the Army Hammer conversation. Well, no, what do you 1324 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,000 Speaker 1: add on to it? There's there's nothing to add on 1325 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: to it but Armie Hammer. I remember the Social Network 1326 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 1: had just come out. And then I went home for 1327 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Christmas that that year and I was in Aurora, Colorado, 1328 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: and I went to the rec center where my parents 1329 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 1: have a membership, to go like work out and no 1330 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,600 Speaker 1: one was there, but there was a guy in a 1331 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: baseball cap and this like thin beautiful woman doing a 1332 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: little tour walk around with like the manager of the 1333 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 1: place where someone and I look over it was like 1334 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,720 Speaker 1: that's that guy from the Social network who played the 1335 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,600 Speaker 1: Winkle Boss twins. Wow, And I was like, wait, but 1336 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: what would he be doing in suburban Denver, Like he's 1337 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 1: not from And I literally googled him while he was 1338 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 1: standing like twenty ft away from me. This is such 1339 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 1: a boring story, but I just like googled him when 1340 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: he will he was like twenty ft away from and 1341 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, you know, he's from like he's like 1342 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 1: from like this, he's this like he was born into 1343 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: wealth and he's from like this part of the country, 1344 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: and he's he wouldn't be here. But then, like I 1345 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 1: later figured out he was dating this woman who was 1346 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,760 Speaker 1: from my hometown, and I'm like, wow, like what what 1347 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 1: are those what's that story? Now? I'm like I'm thinking 1348 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: about at all through the lens of his all of 1349 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 1: his past lives, because I also remember that BuzzFeed article 1350 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: that came out Busfeed News article that came out that 1351 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: was kind of this opinion piece on like it was 1352 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 1: in an opinion piece. It was just this feature, why 1353 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: have we given this man so many chances? This is 1354 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 1: when calling me this was wh't calling me by your name? 1355 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Came out and I was talking about like the lone 1356 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Ranger and it was talking about like he kind of 1357 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 1: kept flopping. Yeah, he kept flopping over and over and 1358 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,560 Speaker 1: over again. And it was just like, what is Hollywood's 1359 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 1: obsession with? Well, he's hot, this white, and he already 1360 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 1: was incredibly rich, right, and the article like accounts for 1361 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,879 Speaker 1: all that, but it was also like, but he doesn't 1362 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 1: have the star quality. It's like he's not a box 1363 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,559 Speaker 1: office to draw, like, he's not like and Hans is 1364 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 1: saying Hollywood is desperate for a leading man, same reason. 1365 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 1: Sam Worthington had a bunch of roles in a row. Yeah, right, 1366 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 1: like who cares. But it's like it's these people who 1367 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,120 Speaker 1: are like, wait, but you actually no one gives a 1368 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 1: shit about you, because otherwise we'd be going to the movies. 1369 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: You're not like, yeah, you can't really make someone a sensation, Like, 1370 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 1: yes you can. You can shove them in front of 1371 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 1: everyone's faces again and again and again. But it's like 1372 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 1: with Britney Spears. It's like Britney Spears was a born 1373 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: star like she and and talk about coming from no advantage, 1374 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She was born in Ka, Louisiana, 1375 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 1: which is tiny, and it was by sheer talent that 1376 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 1: she made as far as she made it. Meanwhile, like, 1377 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 1: and this is something I'm wanna say that's maybe a 1378 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:31,679 Speaker 1: little controversial, but old money are into weird ship. Like 1379 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: That's why I wasn't surprised at all. Want to heard 1380 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,719 Speaker 1: about this kind of room. It feels insane to say 1381 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,639 Speaker 1: out loud, but I was like, well, you know, it's 1382 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 1: like any old institution, Like that's weird ship there. Like 1383 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,519 Speaker 1: if you were going to tell me, hey, just so 1384 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, one of the probably top twenty actors in 1385 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,640 Speaker 1: Hollywood is accountable. If I'm looking at a list, I 1386 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: would pick him knowing nothing. And then when he is 1387 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 1: only an alleged accountable at this point, and I wish 1388 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,000 Speaker 1: the episode could be titled Alleged Acountable, but it can't. No, no, no, 1389 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,640 Speaker 1: We're we're not gonna make it. We're not going to 1390 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 1: just deed title. Just just give the title from Han says, 1391 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 1: I'd go with Robby mollock. Wow, I don't know about 1392 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 1: that guy. He's more vampire to me than cantable. That 1393 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 1: makes sense, Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Um, 1394 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Also good point. It's good point. 1395 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 1: Hans has good point. It was so here crazy to 1396 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,760 Speaker 1: hear about that. And apparently this week there's more coming 1397 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: out and like w M E and his publicist dropped him. 1398 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:41,720 Speaker 1: This all sort of broke out on like doma, like Instagram, tabloids. 1399 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 1: But now there's actual reporting that's going to come out 1400 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 1: over it, like with like interviews and like sources and 1401 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff where it's going to be like, oh wow, 1402 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 1: this is gonna be this is gonna be like you know, 1403 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 1: it's like when terrible example, but it's like when the 1404 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 1: Luis d k thing dropped on New York Time, the 1405 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 1: New York Times it was and that was that's what 1406 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 1: made it like official gave a validity, right, and gave 1407 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: it validity. I think if that's what's about to happen, 1408 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 1: we're about to have that so and we should say 1409 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,320 Speaker 1: that hasn't happened yet. And also it is a little 1410 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 1: odd for us. In the same episode, we're like they 1411 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 1: were so unfair to Brittany to be like, well, we 1412 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: heard this, we heard Army Hammer is accountable, but the 1413 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 1: fact is we haven't heard the case. And I was honestly, 1414 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: here's what I'd say. Do not smoke weed and then 1415 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 1: Twitter search Army Hammer. You will you will feel crazy 1416 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: because what they're started to say now is truly dark 1417 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 1: and the d m s are really crazy. Before we 1418 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 1: move into um, well we'll Actually it's helpful to think 1419 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 1: about what the tabloid culture quote unquote is now and 1420 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,559 Speaker 1: who is most susceptible to that culture in the way 1421 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 1: that Brittany was most susceptible to that, to the culture 1422 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 1: as it was back then. The kind of person who 1423 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 1: is most susceptible to that culture now, I don't know 1424 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 1: if it is someone like Army Hammer, but like I'm 1425 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 1: trying to think of, like who is whose career is 1426 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,640 Speaker 1: at a point where they are the most vulnerable to 1427 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 1: be sort of like exploited by like DM screenshots and 1428 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 1: ship like that. Well literally, white straight man would say them, 1429 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,040 Speaker 1: and that's how you know it's all funked up. It's 1430 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 1: because they'd be like to get us right now, and 1431 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 1: that's like Army havenerd be like I'm not responding to 1432 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 1: these bullshit claims. Mean while it's like no, dude, like 1433 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: there's like verifiable stuff coming out of you, you're obviously 1434 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 1: a freak, Like yeah. But but they answer to your 1435 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,720 Speaker 1: question is it's always going to be women because think 1436 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 1: about what they did to Jennifer Lawrence, Like god, I 1437 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: could like that was crazy, Like when when when that 1438 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 1: all happened? Anyway, Um, I wanted to ask you before 1439 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 1: we go into I don't think so, honey, what did 1440 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 1: you think of a big game? Honey? I thought the 1441 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:52,760 Speaker 1: big game was kind of a kind of a true done, 1442 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,639 Speaker 1: like we need to cool it with. I can't believe 1443 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,720 Speaker 1: the amount of people on my on my on my 1444 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 1: instance who are like going crazy for Tom Brady. I'm like, 1445 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,120 Speaker 1: you guys know his deal, right, Okay, that's I don't 1446 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 1: think so, honey, should do it all right, we'll do 1447 01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,320 Speaker 1: it now, We'll do now. This is I don't think so, honey. 1448 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 1: This is where we take one minute to go off 1449 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 1: on something in culture and it's just something that's really 1450 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,200 Speaker 1: chopping our ass. And Matt, you have something right, I 1451 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 1: can confirm that I do. This is Matt Rodgers, I 1452 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 1: don't think so hony as time starts now, I don't 1453 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 1: think so, honey, Tom Brady. I am so fucking bored 1454 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,880 Speaker 1: of hearing about this man. It's been decades. We need 1455 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 1: to move the funk on from this guy, who is 1456 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but not even as hot as Shrek. If 1457 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,840 Speaker 1: you put Shrek next to Tom Brady, I'm picking Shrek. 1458 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 1: And also in the before photos the guy looks like 1459 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: a lot like Shrek. I don't think so, honey, that 1460 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: you are like, oh, I don't endorse Trump. I didn't 1461 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 1: vote for Trump. I'm just a friend of Trump's. What 1462 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: the fund does that say about dirt? You think it's 1463 01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,600 Speaker 1: gonna make me feel better, sweetheart that you didn't outwardly 1464 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,360 Speaker 1: support Trump. You only are his close friend. Um, I'm sorry. 1465 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,640 Speaker 1: That's a red fucking flag and Gizel your wife had 1466 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 1: to be like, don't talk about politics, just shut the 1467 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,000 Speaker 1: funk up. Fifty the most out of touch person in 1468 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 1: the world. I'm also so fucking sick of hearing about him. 1469 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: And now he's like fucking playing for the Buccaneers, which, 1470 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,759 Speaker 1: by the work play is the gay or work for pirates. 1471 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 1: He was a New England Patriots disgusting. I'm so done 1472 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,560 Speaker 1: with this type of person. I don't think so, honey, 1473 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: And that's one minute, thank you. Shrek is hotter, Yeah, 1474 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,360 Speaker 1: Shrek is way hotter than Tom Brady. And honestly, it's like, 1475 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,520 Speaker 1: by the way, if there's a hot guy on the Buccaneers, 1476 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: it's Gronk, okay, And I don't want to hear about 1477 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 1: anyone that's not Gronk because actually, whenever I think of Gronk, 1478 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,520 Speaker 1: I do immediately get hard. And that's something that alexamine. 1479 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,040 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is like Tom Brady 1480 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 1: is such a massive celebrity and people are so fucking 1481 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 1: obsessed with him, and it's like, wait, hold on a second, no, 1482 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: these people, these people are gross. It's it's on the 1483 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,960 Speaker 1: chiefs that you have actual stars. Mahomes is a star, 1484 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,839 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is a star and a verified nice person. 1485 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: Let's just say this, Um, here's who will hold the who. 1486 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,160 Speaker 1: Here's who will stand the test of time, Colin Kaepernick. 1487 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,200 Speaker 1: Here's who will not Tom Brady. He's gonna age like 1488 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake. And also, I can't believe that people are 1489 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: just looking the other way with the trump of it 1490 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,320 Speaker 1: all with him, because well, being a friend of Trump's 1491 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,599 Speaker 1: is worse than anything else, Like being if you're a 1492 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,000 Speaker 1: friend of Trump, that is worse than being a supporter. 1493 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:27,720 Speaker 1: That is worse than being like if you're in his 1494 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 1: inner circle. This means a million dark things. Also, he 1495 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: definitely has endorsed Republican candidates over Democratic candidates. And he's 1496 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 1: also threatened to run for Senate before. He's called it 1497 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,599 Speaker 1: one of his grand aspirations. And that cannot happen, but 1498 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 1: you know it will. You know he's on some quman 1499 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 1: on ship. Doug Bam says, I don't like him personally, 1500 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 1: but he is the greatest quarterback of the shop. Doug, No, 1501 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: we don't care. We don't care to chime in on this. 1502 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,840 Speaker 1: We're not We're not talking about the sport of football here. 1503 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,160 Speaker 1: Your character as a person, Mama, her name was Doug Flutey, 1504 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 1: Troy know it. Patrick Mahomes, You don't know anything about football. 1505 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,759 Speaker 1: But I like Harck Holmes um that that was probably 1506 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,760 Speaker 1: the extent of football players that I know. I know 1507 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,519 Speaker 1: who Ticky Barber is, but he's not a quarterback. I 1508 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 1: believe he was a wide receiver. Um. And of course, 1509 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Dean Sanders famously played uh Major League baseball and in 1510 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,639 Speaker 1: the National football Um. But yeah, I couldn't fucking believe 1511 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,679 Speaker 1: anything about the Super Bowl really, how packed the stands were. 1512 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Couldn't believe that. Uh, couldn't believe that. Tom Brady one again, 1513 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 1: I think it was it was seventy and it was 1514 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,479 Speaker 1: just carboard cut ats. Is that true? A lot of 1515 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 1: them were carbonar cut ats. Oh okay, Well, all I 1516 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: know is it didn't It didn't look like I mean, 1517 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 1: it was terrified. It was terrifying to see it was like, 1518 01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, how many people is this? Yeah, I 1519 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 1: don't even know if that's true. I think there might 1520 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 1: have been a ton of people there. Yeah, Hans never mind, 1521 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: never mind. Yeah, it didn't feel right to me. Also, 1522 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,320 Speaker 1: like the whole stunting on them being like, by the way, 1523 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,240 Speaker 1: we're giving two million dollars away to um and systemic racism. 1524 01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,960 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, give Colin Kaepernick his job back. Okay, 1525 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: how about that. Let's fucking get it together and really 1526 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: reckon with the fact that y'all have been really slow 1527 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 1: on the uptake here and not just like here's a 1528 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 1: bunch of money. Though I am glad that that is 1529 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 1: a very large sum of money. It's just like, I 1530 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,240 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm still not a fan of it. And 1531 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 1: then everything they did with the messaging with um Jasmine 1532 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 1: Sullivan having to sing the national anthem with Eric Church, 1533 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,640 Speaker 1: It's like, no, why don't you just let Jasmine do it? 1534 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't need to see this fucking show of unity. 1535 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 1: And Hans wants to know what about the weekend? Um, 1536 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,479 Speaker 1: we love able. Uh, it's a rule of culture. Only 1537 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 1: women should perform at the halftime show. Yeah, I mean 1538 01:25:56,160 --> 01:26:00,760 Speaker 1: I agree, or unless it's us, Unless it's us that, Yeah, 1539 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 1: that's it. It should be us and maybe maybe Andy 1540 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: Samberg right Lonely Island halftime. I think that, Uh, a 1541 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,120 Speaker 1: man can perform at the super Bowl. Prince did a 1542 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 1: great halftime show. Yes, we're talking about Hans. We're talking 1543 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 1: about in the current like PEPSI sponsored super Bowl halftime show. 1544 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 1: We're talking about female singers. Can I say something, I'm 1545 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,599 Speaker 1: really not liking how much we're being challenged by our 1546 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 1: male producers. I'm not really I'm not into it. Today 1547 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,680 Speaker 1: was not that this is the Brittany episode. This is 1548 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 1: And although I do appreciate Anna's hot Epna's contribution, A 1549 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 1: ton of parties around the event of the Super Bowl. Yes, okay, disgusting, despicable, 1550 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,599 Speaker 1: tampas trash. It felt whack And I saw your tweet 1551 01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 1: about it too, and I agree with you. And the 1552 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,440 Speaker 1: thing with the weekend is like, I mean, I understand 1553 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,960 Speaker 1: that he is at that level that he could perform 1554 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It's just like, never gonna be my vibe. 1555 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 1: Though I did like the blinding lights apart. I mean 1556 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 1: it should have just been on the field the entire time. 1557 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 1: I didn't. I hated the stage in where he is 1558 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 1: in the fucking seats, you know, like if he he's 1559 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,720 Speaker 1: by the scoreboard. I was like, get him out and 1560 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,800 Speaker 1: get him out on the field. He could sing like 1561 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,960 Speaker 1: a motherfucker. I almost didn't realize he had all that. Like, 1562 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:15,599 Speaker 1: but he is like a supertendor, like he can really sing. Yes, yes, yeah, 1563 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,240 Speaker 1: he's great. But super Bowl I don't know anyway. Um, okay, 1564 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:23,880 Speaker 1: So what the deal is is I usually go, then 1565 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,120 Speaker 1: there's usually some conversation, then Bone goes, and so that 1566 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,800 Speaker 1: is I guess we're sort of following that tonight. So 1567 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 1: this here, my friends, is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. 1568 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,960 Speaker 1: And as time starts, now, I don't think so, honey, 1569 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:42,000 Speaker 1: anyone who is disgusted had to turn it off. Made 1570 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,439 Speaker 1: it a crazy faced at my don't think so any 1571 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 1: last week about toe nails, bitch, I have never ever 1572 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 1: ever been so angry at a response. You have no 1573 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: right to be truly like pearl graspy, pearl clutchy about 1574 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 1: this if you are to. And my my sister Matt 1575 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers was on my side in the end, don't say 1576 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 1: wow my face My face was Matt's face the entire 1577 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 1: time ended up siding with me being my girls saying 1578 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:13,880 Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you are just truly like 1579 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,920 Speaker 1: shocked at this, you are not confronting your own humanity. 1580 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:19,640 Speaker 1: And this is all I have to say. I have 1581 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,559 Speaker 1: no articulate point to make except to say, how dare 1582 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: you do not make me not to feel disgusted or 1583 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,639 Speaker 1: like these habits are bad. It's fine, we all have 1584 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 1: these fucked up I'm Billie Eilish, I am the emo 1585 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 1: princess saying you are as dark as I am, and 1586 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 1: you are denying your darkness and your humanity by by 1587 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 1: saying that I'm the weird one, that I'm billy. I'm 1588 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 1: Billie Eilish, that's one minute plus. Um that to say 1589 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 1: to end it with you saying, I'm Billie Eilish, Now 1590 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense. I feel like now you've are in 1591 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 1: the respect because they just didn't know that. But with 1592 01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 1: you sayce being billy, you want to eat your groure 1593 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,240 Speaker 1: flavored toenails, which, by the way I looked at it, 1594 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want them. It does mean you may have 1595 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,720 Speaker 1: a fun guess I did look it up. It does 1596 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,600 Speaker 1: mean you may have a fungus, but I do do. 1597 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Millions of people so do I. But apparently, um, I 1598 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,640 Speaker 1: think that you're gonna sort of you're gonna see the 1599 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 1: response sort of softened because you've now expressed that it's 1600 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 1: a part of your artistic sense ability. It's like it's 1601 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,639 Speaker 1: like Billie Eilish, like you know, slurping this alive out 1602 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 1: of her in Visilene. It's like, guys, we are all 1603 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:34,439 Speaker 1: human beings. We are all like sacks of ship, so true, 1604 01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,679 Speaker 1: we're meat bags. We're meat bags, and like, don't deny 1605 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:43,720 Speaker 1: your body, your your your your body horror disgusting like tendencies. 1606 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, that episode was no, that was body horror. 1607 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,120 Speaker 1: It was body hart. That whole episode was body horror. 1608 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,800 Speaker 1: When I listened back to UM the discussion of the 1609 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 1: live birth, I could not believe that that that episode 1610 01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:57,640 Speaker 1: was body and I had someone to reach out and 1611 01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,519 Speaker 1: say they had to pull over to throw up a 1612 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,360 Speaker 1: pregnant woman. Oh my god, I have to we have 1613 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 1: to publicly apologize. We're so sorry. We really we triggered 1614 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,720 Speaker 1: the pregnant woman so much that she had to pull 1615 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,280 Speaker 1: over in her car to throw up. And she she 1616 01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: got on and she was like, it's literally fine, but 1617 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 1: I want because it happens all the time. But I 1618 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 1: did want you to know that this did happen. And 1619 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, I completely understand. I very 1620 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 1: nearly threw up and we were talking about it. So 1621 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:27,719 Speaker 1: we're very sorry. We apologize to anyone else who threw up. Yeah, 1622 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,880 Speaker 1: but I mean, trust me, if you're if you're reading 1623 01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,720 Speaker 1: the news lately, it's a lot about accountableism, so not 1624 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,840 Speaker 1: a lot of ways to escape the body horror as 1625 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 1: of late, there is a body horror trend anyway. Yeah, 1626 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,400 Speaker 1: So before we go, I just wanted to UM check 1627 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 1: in with you. Um re your television watching what what What? What? 1628 01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Should everyone will be watching along with you right now? 1629 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 1: I've really fallen off. I'm just watching one division. I 1630 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 1: just finished season four search Party, which I thought was fantastic. 1631 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,240 Speaker 1: I season. I heard they might get another season. Who knows. 1632 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 1: We're waiting to hear. But there's an episode with that 1633 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,639 Speaker 1: focuses on Shantal with her bottom clear. Mcmialty's character Alia 1634 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,839 Speaker 1: was incredible. This Ali was incredible. This season. Cola Scola 1635 01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:18,920 Speaker 1: was incredible season. I mean seeing Cole play opposite, seeing 1636 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,439 Speaker 1: Cole play opposite and Jon and Susan Surrandon, I was 1637 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:27,120 Speaker 1: just like, this is fucking this, this is what um. 1638 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they did such a good job. And then 1639 01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,439 Speaker 1: I just had to look up this actress is today 1640 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 1: because there's an actress in the Shantal episode. Uh, Lilias White. Oh, 1641 01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 1: Lilias White is a Tony Winner. She she plays Jessie 1642 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,599 Speaker 1: in the dream Girls concert version that I always tell 1643 01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:47,840 Speaker 1: you about, right, Lilias White, she's one of the music 1644 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:52,920 Speaker 1: in Hercules, but she has this role in this episode 1645 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,680 Speaker 1: Party season four that I think is the funniest she is. 1646 01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 1: So I texted Charles. I was like, she's an icon. 1647 01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 1: I was, I was idiot, like, I don't know, I 1648 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I should I should know my my dream 1649 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,600 Speaker 1: Girls and my Tony's better. But I texted Charles, I 1650 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,599 Speaker 1: was like, who's that actress who was playing this woman 1651 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 1: Wilma character will featured actress Tony Winner for the Life 1652 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,840 Speaker 1: in the nineties. Yes, I texted Charles. I was like, 1653 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 1: I feel like I should know this this actress, but 1654 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 1: she's incredible and she's making me Ga fall like who 1655 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,360 Speaker 1: is that? And Charles was like, oh, it's Lily's. I 1656 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh, right, right right, And she just is phenomenal. 1657 01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,960 Speaker 1: I just laughing thinking about some scenes with her. Truly 1658 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,719 Speaker 1: phenomenal and Claire McNulty incredible. Everyone, I mean, Meredith Hagner, 1659 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying podcast, Meredeth Hagner, John Early, John Reynolds, 1660 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:44,519 Speaker 1: Rebecca Robles, our story. I was justa I was like, 1661 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,360 Speaker 1: everyone was like, do you know Rebecca Nko was asking me, 1662 01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, She's incredible. She always was. 1663 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,240 Speaker 1: She was always she always was, and she's so multi talented. 1664 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,680 Speaker 1: She was doing she was doing hair, and she was 1665 01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 1: like she was And just I'm just truly like a 1666 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,600 Speaker 1: beauty search party that were you ever on it? I was, 1667 01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 1: I've never been on it, but you you you are 1668 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 1: in the Search Party universe. Yeah, I'm I'm in the SPU. Um. 1669 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 1: But that was one of those shows where it was like, 1670 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,680 Speaker 1: you feel like, not like a rite of passage, like 1671 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,280 Speaker 1: not like a Lauren order. It was like a Lauren 1672 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,720 Speaker 1: order for Common. It was just kind of like like 1673 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:25,519 Speaker 1: Pat Regan is so funny, Paths amazing, Joel and Metra amazing, 1674 01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,559 Speaker 1: and season three. Yeah. Yeah, but it did feel good 1675 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,960 Speaker 1: to like get to be on it because it did 1676 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 1: feel like in that in that universe, I'm like a 1677 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:42,280 Speaker 1: complete entertainment fashion commentator. Um, it's what are you watching? 1678 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,120 Speaker 1: I literally, I mean I told you and I pitched 1679 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 1: to Bowen earlier. I was like, you know who I 1680 01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,160 Speaker 1: would love to have on the show, Um, Tiana Paris, 1681 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,599 Speaker 1: who is playing Monica Rambo in One Division. I've just 1682 01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,479 Speaker 1: fallen in love with her and watching interviews UM about 1683 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 1: the show because she's so excited, like and because her 1684 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,679 Speaker 1: character becomes like her character in the comic books becomes 1685 01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:09,040 Speaker 1: like Captain leads the Avengers, and um, it's really fun 1686 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 1: and I love her on the show and I'm obsessed 1687 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,840 Speaker 1: with the show. I watched it all the episodes again 1688 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,360 Speaker 1: last night. It's great. I'm picking up on more things now. 1689 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,400 Speaker 1: I like obsessed with Elizabeth Olson. I love Paul Bettany, 1690 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,639 Speaker 1: I always have UM and Catherine han As, I think 1691 01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:27,559 Speaker 1: the best actress ever, ever, ever. I'm so in love 1692 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,599 Speaker 1: with that woman. I just don't think I have ever 1693 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:35,040 Speaker 1: once seen her be even close, not even not even 1694 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: never seen her be bad. I've never even seen her 1695 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:41,240 Speaker 1: be okay, I've only ever seen her fucking nail that. 1696 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:45,280 Speaker 1: She is exactly my favorite type of actress. Who Um, 1697 01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,599 Speaker 1: She's obviously led by her joy and I think she's 1698 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,959 Speaker 1: always fun and she's always making it fun for herself, 1699 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,160 Speaker 1: and that she's a great scene partner. And I just 1700 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 1: I get such good vibes from the whole cast and 1701 01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,200 Speaker 1: One Division. What they did at the end to the 1702 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 1: last episode I loved because I love the actor. I 1703 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,920 Speaker 1: love that actor that they revealed at the end. I 1704 01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,680 Speaker 1: love him. He's so fucking hot. Um, And I'm just 1705 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,880 Speaker 1: obsessed with the show. I love it. People people yelled 1706 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: at me because I said how much how much I 1707 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,639 Speaker 1: love One Division and want to watch all the marvels, 1708 01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,840 Speaker 1: and they're like, it's military propaganda, and I'm like, y'all 1709 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,920 Speaker 1: can't jump off a bridge with I never left at 1710 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 1: Brittany people, Oh, just get out of my life. It's 1711 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,320 Speaker 1: like I think we said this last episode, or I 1712 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,240 Speaker 1: mean we said this like offline to each other. It's 1713 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,280 Speaker 1: like my first Cat Dennings experience where I'm like, Okay, yes, 1714 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,840 Speaker 1: I love Catdennings and then like yes, and I've always 1715 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 1: been like okay, Cat Dnings, but girl Catdennings is so 1716 01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,639 Speaker 1: good at this. I am l elling along with her. 1717 01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,479 Speaker 1: I love Catdennings. I think she had like the two 1718 01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,200 Speaker 1: broke girl stink on her, you know what I mean. 1719 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:46,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, she's on like a CBS sitcom 1720 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,559 Speaker 1: whenever she had to check Laurie stink on her, which 1721 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, who are we to be? Like, who are we? 1722 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, so we would have the stink on us too, 1723 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,920 Speaker 1: if yes, exactly? Um. And then I was to say 1724 01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,519 Speaker 1: that Katherine Hahn is the best part. And I know 1725 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 1: we say this every time each baby bring her up, 1726 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 1: but she is the best part of Stepbrothers, the best 1727 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,320 Speaker 1: part of she I think she steals the movie from 1728 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 1: Will We're Sorry well, but in my opinion, my opinion, 1729 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,880 Speaker 1: Katherine Han steals the movie from Will. From John C. 1730 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 1: Riley from Mr Adam Scott from Adam Scott. I just 1731 01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 1: she's the funniest fucking part of that movie. She is 1732 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,680 Speaker 1: the best part of almost everything she's ever done. I'm 1733 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,759 Speaker 1: not kidding. I'm upset, you know what I was remembering 1734 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,880 Speaker 1: she was in Girls when she when she was the 1735 01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 1: mother of the girl that Jessa was babysitting and she 1736 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,960 Speaker 1: learning with her husband and she's like, look, and the 1737 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: way that her character handled that with her was like 1738 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 1: so good that I just I'm as I love her 1739 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,880 Speaker 1: in Bad Moms. I love her and when her talking 1740 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,519 Speaker 1: and the best part of Bad Moms is her talking 1741 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,599 Speaker 1: about uncut dicks, She's like, get to pull the skin 1742 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:55,280 Speaker 1: over the cop like shel she would be incredible. Oh 1743 01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,639 Speaker 1: my god, I'm just I'm maybe we should get Catherine 1744 01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Han the Loves get Katherine Han the show. Well. Now 1745 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 1: it's so weird because like I'm watching so many interviews 1746 01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,080 Speaker 1: with the Marvel people and it's so clear they can't 1747 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,560 Speaker 1: say ship. But also I don't I don't want to 1748 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,519 Speaker 1: ask her about I would, I would, I listen, I 1749 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,000 Speaker 1: could ask I want to ask her about what she 1750 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,639 Speaker 1: does every day, Like I don't care about you know, Agnes, 1751 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,800 Speaker 1: my god, not that I don't care about, but I 1752 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,360 Speaker 1: just care about Catherine Han more proper. Right, Well, we 1753 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,519 Speaker 1: might have to do a Catherine Hahn deep dive someday. 1754 01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 1: But UM, on that note, this we hope you've enjoyed 1755 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:33,639 Speaker 1: this Britney Spears sort of symposium, two person symposium. Um. 1756 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,320 Speaker 1: And we talked about Wendy a little bit. We talked 1757 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,400 Speaker 1: about Army. I think you really you know, checked all 1758 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,720 Speaker 1: the big boxes Britney and then a little bit of 1759 01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,360 Speaker 1: a little a little little bit of Catherine had appreciation, 1760 01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:47,200 Speaker 1: which I'm good with. UM, and I think that here's 1761 01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:51,840 Speaker 1: the deal. Bowen and I we have mentioned a lot 1762 01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:56,280 Speaker 1: of Britney Spears songs, but I feel that one is 1763 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,720 Speaker 1: the is the one to go out on. Okay, I 1764 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,439 Speaker 1: don't know that you know. I'm wondering if me and 1765 01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,880 Speaker 1: my sister can tell a kinetically connect right now? Yes, yes, yes, 1766 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:12,519 Speaker 1: I think we can. She's lucky you sorry what you 1767 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:19,200 Speaker 1: ki ki guys and lonely hard bacon if there's nothing 1768 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 1: listen to my why dude teams come at night? But 1769 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,360 Speaker 1: what were you gonna do? You want to come over 1770 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:37,479 Speaker 1: into that little touch we can be do next to nothing. 1771 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,720 Speaker 1: Do you want to come over? Do you want to 1772 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,360 Speaker 1: come over? You can listen to that song on one album, 1773 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,599 Speaker 1: Bow Glory, good Bye,