WEBVTT - HitMaka 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:14.560 Money. Well, take val we are the authority all th 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:23.360 R and what's going on. I am Tank, this is 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.319 the Valentine and this is the Army Money Podcast, the 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.880 authority on all things R and being weak God in 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.480 the building. We just rather go back, like way back, 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.720 like we used to rent Lamborghinis from the same guy. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.600 Now we can afford our own that. Get the stand 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.360 I'm saying, he can get more Lamborghinis to me. Now 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:46.519 he can get lambos We got this brother in the house. Man. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:47.839 I don't know how he did it. I don't know 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.080 how he's doing it, but he's continuing to change the 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.559 game and elevate himself and all the people around him. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:57.080 We're gonna find out today. We're gonna find out today, Hitmaker. Yes, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:07.839 first of all, thank you, Bro, thank you, thank you 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:11.479 than being here. Man Um I've i've I've watched you 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.720 for a very long time. I think you were sitting 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:21.240 in expedition was it Expedition? And and in the in 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.800 the parking lot at the Underdogs oh joint on on 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.319 in North Hollywood, put up in a ghost and you 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.200 had the window down, you were smoking a little bit. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:32.960 You had your leg up and you said, listen, Man, 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.520 you need to get some records from and I was 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.039 looking at you and I need to get some record 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.000 You need to get some records from me. I got hits, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:47.080 you got hit R and B. I got everything. Okay, 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.920 I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call you. Think it 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:57.960 was already Listen cut too, you called it. Yeah, you 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.000 had him, you got him that some crazy terms to underdogs, bro, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.440 Like I know y'all experienced with the Underdogs is way 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.440 different than mine. But just like catching that wave and 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.680 being around Damon and Harvey and all them at the time. Man, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.880 you gotta think they had like the Avengers of songwriters 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:20.080 and producers all in that yourself, jam j Q, what's Dawkins? 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.800 It was just like, Bro, it was amazing. I learned 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.639 a lot really at that. And that's what I met 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.880 Aaron Ray that signed the Interscope or whatever. Underdogs. Shout 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.360 out to Aaron and we that we built our relationship. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.400 But man, damn, shout out to Damon Bro. I just 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.919 seen his lad TV interview. You are a wild boy. 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:43.480 Listen and if him maker cause you a wild boy. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.000 I used to live with him, so you know when 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.880 I was damning homeless, he let me stay in on 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.120 his rooms. He was solid that he was cool. Listen, listen, 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.400 we was up on top of the hill and the 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.320 pool with it with simmer and the state will come 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:02.320 off just called the hot Dog water. So you know, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:06.760 but well, Paul, you know what's going on there. Uh 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.000 so listen with what what what our what our pod? 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.840 You know what I'm saying, Like we are we we 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:18.280 celebrate the music, and you go back a long way 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.600 even before hit Maker. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:26.200 You had hits before Hitmaker. Yeah. Yeah. And so I 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:31.640 think I think people people. I don't want people to 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.920 get lost in and what they see now and not 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.360 understand the process and what it took for you to 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:44.160 fucking get here, bro. And and if we can start 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.040 at the beginning and kind of and kind of get 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.600 to those pivotal points that were game changing for you 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.600 and then make our way to one of the craziest 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.960 change I've ever seen, we can make our way there. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.360 You know what I'm saying. The people would love that, Okay, Right, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.040 so the beginning, I'm from South side of Chicago, you 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.920 know what I'm saying. So I started there and like, um, 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.000 a lot of people don't know my parents were millionaires, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.680 so like I came from Like yeah, like I ain't 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.720 never had a sandwich, a hot dog at Hamburger lunch, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.440 a bully. I ain't never had burger king. I'm briefly 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.640 like a McDonald's nugget maybe or something like that. I 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:19.960 ain't never had none of that ship in my life. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.880 And I'm in my miya thirties right now, so like 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.479 that ain't never happened to me. Ever, I have peanut 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:29.120 butter and jelly. I ain't never had a motherfucking uh chefs. Yeah, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.680 you know, I'm you know, I met his pops. I 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.720 met his pops at the bm I award me this 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:41.880 fool and Damon Thomas at the same table and his daddy, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.120 his daddy cool and the motherfucker. And he keep his 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.039 camera out. He said, he said wait because he saw 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.200 somebody else talk to me, said wait, did they say 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.680 you was Jay Pat. I'm like, yeah, like I ain't 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.880 put out records in a honey is He like I 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.480 know who you are. Let's take this picture because I'm 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.760 gonna get a everybody in the mix. So he's not playing. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.480 So that that happened, And then um, I was you know, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.800 back in the day, I was, well, my next door 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.800 neighbor was Shawna from disturbing the piece or whatever. We're 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.200 getting some head. Her dad is buddy guys, So they 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.760 were my next door neighbor. They were the first people 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.560 I've seen indoor pool outdoor pool flexed up or whatever. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.080 So she was in wrap groups and she was rapping 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.919 and like that kind of like rubbed off on me, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.680 my brothers and like all the people around her or whatever. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.360 So I just seen it from that view. And then 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.680 as I got old, I was a bad kid, bro 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.800 like not really bad, like like yeah, I was bad. So, 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.360 like my parents got a divorce and my dad went 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:41.960 back to the city and lived in one of his 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.719 apartment building wanting pretty much like he went back to 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.839 the hood, and uh, we was living in his apartment 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.800 building on the East side of Chicago whatever, because my 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.880 dad is like a real like real estate mogul in Chicago. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.640 But he when they had a divorce, we left the 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.120 big house and he like, fucking, I'm gonna just go 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.360 live in one of my buildings and I'm gonna raise 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.160 my son. So I didn't live with my mom. I 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.479 wouldn't live with my dad, I got like the opposite story. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.560 So from there, like men, I started drinking and smoking, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.240 probably like sixth grade something like that. Like so I 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.320 remember being in love with Wraps and Ship and like 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.200 my daily routine, like my dad would give me like 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.040 twil dollars for lunch money. I would go and buy 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.120 like a nickel bag of well by half hint of secrets. Gin. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:20.880 I would get on the bus and write Wraps and 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.960 go to school. And this is like eighth grade, freshman 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:25.720 year in high school. You know what I'm saying. Like 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.520 I was wild and I used to a crackhead go 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:35.840 by me half hint of sequence and you guys, you 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:41.159 and this guy, no, no, no, I did my research 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.640 on him. He's different. He's different, like for real, for real. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.680 From there, I ended up meeting up some street niggers, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.000 you know the whole story. And then um, pretty much 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.360 I created a demo with this guy named Books, who 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.480 still works with Kanye to this day. They're like right 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.400 hand or whatever. So my demo had Jesus to beat 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.360 on it. My demo had all wait wait wait wait 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.840 wait wait. That actual beat, the beat to Jesus Walks 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.599 was a song by me before it was Kanye song 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.560 and it was on my demo which led to me 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:15.640 to get signed as a kid. So from there, boom 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.960 the dope way that the street dudes or whatever they 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.200 take me, and then like we do the whole little tour, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.040 like I remember Tommy Boy wanted to sign me. Um, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.000 I met a whole bunch of people out here. They 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.200 used to be a club called Luna Park, and I 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.800 think like the Lakers that just won the championship. I 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.440 mind you, back when I was a little dude, I 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.160 was like four ft four, like I was like a 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.560 little little berg or whatever for real, for real, and 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.760 I rapped for like jay Z, Dane Dash, Dr Dre, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.240 all these different people. So everybody was offering me deals, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.480 and just so happened. Eve had a stylist named Joe 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:55.960 Exclusive that he shout out always somewhere, always in the mixture. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.120 That was Eve stylist, and I've been around Eve a lot. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.080 So he introduced me to DMX at what these bitches 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.800 want from a video shoot at the Paramount or whatever, 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.120 and then from there I gave d MX my my 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.840 demo and he was like, YO, shortly up, but I'm 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.200 gonna get to you later or whatever. So he went smoked, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.760 and I went and I rapped for him, and like, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.080 I'm from Chicago. So my first rap was like I say, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.760 with the sense and like some twister ship and he 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.400 was like, joy, I understand, what the funk you said, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.880 Give me another one. So I did another one. The 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.640 whole fucking trailer erupts, and the next day I come 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.880 back Aliyah's dad, they're in the trailer playing my music. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.400 They're going crazy or whatever. Lead to me signing the DMX, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:40.320 and that's what I like a real kid. But I was. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.160 I was like me, now I'm smoking a cigarette, smoking weed, drinking, 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.840 Like were you you you with your guys from Chicago, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.240 you know with Pops, You're not. No, I wasn't whip hops, 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.120 so like I'm moving like a grown man. Yeah, Like 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.720 I was really rebellious. You gotta think back in those days, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.559 the rapping was about staying true to Like I mean, 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.559 I had so many bricks in my raps or whatever, 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.720 like I wanted to be industry. Like I was literally 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.160 selling crack, like like my parents are millionaires and I 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.440 was spitting out rocks and selling them to my like 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.360 crackheads and on the corner, like I really wanted to 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.320 live that life like and be about that with my raps. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.000 So from there, my pops in them seeing I was 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.520 so rebellious that they just standing my way. I was 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.079 leaving regardless whether y'all let me go or whatever. I'm 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.280 going regardless, So they took me all these different places 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.560 and then that was my first time meeting Rage and 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.880 then DMX was just like, Shorty, I'm gonna sign you. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.560 It's not gonna be quick, but I'm gonna sign you. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.040 And I was like I bet and um, the street 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.520 dudes that brought me there, they got insecure because I 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.840 was working with everybody wanted to sign me and I 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.200 wasn't the lead act like the guy's like son was 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.600 the lead act and I won't say it and ain't 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.720 selling music business or whatever, God bless him or whatever. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.760 So that ship happened and like this was like my 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.320 first like crazy experience in the music business, Like I 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.400 never forget it. We was in New York and DMX 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.920 was pulling up the Quad studio and they're like, Yo, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.600 we're gonna DMX want to see you. I was there 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.400 with Eve with the Street guys, so the Street guys 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.360 like they pulled me in the bathroom, Like, nigga, you 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.040 act like you want to sign a DMX thing. We're 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.559 gonna kill your mama, We're gonna kill your daddy. Nigga, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.080 we don't give a funk. But I'm like like, damn, 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.960 Like I'm a kid for a team. So I see X. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.840 I was holding back a little bit, X telling me like, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.040 we got the deal. We're gonna give you fifty dollar 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.240 the Evans, We're gonna do this. But I couldn't really 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.360 show no love. So we went back to Chicago and 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.520 we're in the studio and the guy that owned the 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.760 studio came in and he wasn't a rapp up. He 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.240 just went't got in the booth while he was in 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.240 there working like yeah, shorty, busting nothing your mama face, 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.080 and I do this. Then a third I'm like damn yeah, 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:38.800 So I went in the booth and I lit his 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.679 ass up, flame this ass up and shipped from now. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.520 When I came out the booth to start putting hands 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.319 on me or whatever, and they like locked me in 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.040 the room and like books was the guy that pulled 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.280 me out the room. And then that's how I got 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.360 out of my contract with the street guys or whatever, 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.440 and then I signed my deal with DMX and that's 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.640 how that started. Yeah, he was a producer, he's a 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.280 top producer. Got to just taught me all the stuff. Like, no, 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.160 he's a producer, he's just a music guy. But the 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.120 street guy that was running this ship was on some 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.480 sugar night ship. So when like after he wrapped and 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.880 I after he put the pieces on me, he like 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.560 handing me a pin and in a paper like write 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.160 a rap nigga, write a wrap. I own you, nigga. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.319 And then I was a kid. So once they put 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:21.880 hands on me, you know, I went back and told 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.520 my parents and that's how I got out that deal 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.000 with the street dudes. And then d m X signed 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:30.720 me directly. Shit, and this is the beginning, this is 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.680 your first experience in the music. Then yes, amazingly enough, 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.160 So that was that was pretty crazy, and then that 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.480 started the DMX era, the Bloodline era, Like rest in 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.840 piece to X man, that man was really good to me. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.560 You know what I'm saying. Paul's and uh man, I 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.480 mean he stole my first piece of pussy like I 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.600 was still a virgin. He dirty stole my first piece 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.960 of ass, like was it really yours though? Because he 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.120 was the star? Yes, but look so look yes it was. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.280 It was. Well listen, we all know how this ship goes. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.439 So look we in that we in Canada film and 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.920 Exit Wounds the movie or whatever with Steven Seagal and 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.640 all them. And I'm up there with him while he's 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.240 up there, and we go to a club and we vibe, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.000 and he loves pool, so we go to a club 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.319 that got pool tables and then we vibing and whatever, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.760 and I found me a joint and I would enjoy 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.559 the whole night, so, you know, to play the artist. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.400 When he leaves, he leaves in his car and then 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.840 the entourage they get in with the homies and security. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.880 So I got in with the entourage with the girl too, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.160 and I'm in the band playing with you know what 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.280 I'm saying. It's my first time. So this DMX is 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.720 literally a dog though like rest in pieces, literally like 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.199 a real dog and human form. So like I get 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.719 out the car, he already in his room security and 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.560 got his straight. I go up there and like he 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.160 had the presidential suite and I was in room like 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.200 sixteen oh two, right next to his so I get 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:50.920 there and I'm putting the key in the room and 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.800 the next thing I know, the door playing open. The 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:57.040 presidential sweety like what I'm like? What he like? Hey, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.760 oh my uh, I think you left your person in 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.839 my room. And we've never been to the hotel at all. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.120 Like we met the women at the hotel and he 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.520 made a beeline away from me and I've never seen 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.400 that woman again. So what I'm going to tell you, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:17.920 my brother, it wasn't your You weren't you weren't hit 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.199 making again he wasn't hit And that was your introduction 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.280 into this ship. I was trying to jump in the game. Man. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.520 He took took my took my vibe away from me. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.640 Man for real. So whoever you are, young lady, if 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:35.440 you're watching this right now, you're not low. So what's 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.480 the what's the next pivotal point? Do you think after 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.240 sign of the DMX, now it's time. Now's tending to 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.560 showing proved put some numbers on the board. Yeah, So 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.640 I think that X, when they gave him a deal 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.559 or whatever, he was just so on fire that he 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.520 didn't really know the business was that he wasn't in 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.760 the vibe of really creating a business. He was ex 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.160 you know what I'm saying, but he had the right 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.880 people around him, shot out to Jash Young, Tina Davis, 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.520 Kevin lows Le or all the people that was around 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.880 or whatever. So at that point, the nigga gave me 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.760 a dog and was like, sure, you gotta take this 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.040 dog everywhere with you. So like I literally had a 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.080 dog and pitpu and I took the dog every a dog, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.640 taking a ship in depth, jam in front of the 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.840 or office. They ain't saying nothing to me or whatever, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.320 like I'm really running around with a dog from there 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.120 at fourteen two. Yes, so here's the crazy chain of events. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.760 So now I got guns and ship in my house 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.760 or whatever, like I'm wilding. So like one of my 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.800 people's double cock the gun while I wasn't there, and 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.520 the gun went off, and I was living in a 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.800 town home, so the gun went through my floor and 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.160 went through a baby's carriage, but thank god, the baby 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.920 wasn't there. So the police rushed my crib that they 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.720 had paid for me. I was living in Edgewater, New 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.400 Jersey or whatever. This word got back to my mom 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.680 and my dad and then you know, them being rich people, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.280 I never forget. I went back to Chicago, and my 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:55.760 mom hit me like, yeo, I want to take you 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.720 to the mall. And I'm like, I'm about to go 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:58.960 back to New York. I do want to grab a 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.840 couple of things. Come on, let's go. So we went. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.320 She's getting all these mysterious phone calls and ship. I'm like, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:04.880 what the fun is going on? She's like, I was 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.600 my new husband. He's gonna meet us at the mall. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.680 So we're going to the the mall. I bought some ship. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.240 I come out and it's two Samoan niggas, like six 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.600 ft niggas at my mom's car. And then I'm like, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.520 what's up and she's like, they're like, hey, Chris, these 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.200 guys are working on my house. And they're like we 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.360 hear you do music. Good to meet you. And I'm 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.600 like yeah. Then my mom is just like, Chris, you 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.840 gotta go to school, and just went jumped in her 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.440 car and Niga pop the trunk and it was all 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.320 closed and ship like that. So now I'm in a 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.160 parking lot of the mall fighting with these two Samoan niggas. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.640 They put me in cuffs, the plastic cuffs and they 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.560 put all the ship out my mom trunk and put 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:37.880 in the car and they put me in the renter car. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:43.600 So now I'm just riding. Yes, I'm riding. I got 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.720 a record deal, I'm signing a deaf jam. I'm doing 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.960 all this ship. So we're driving. I'm like, all, I 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.800 bet we in Chicago. Now we're downtown Chicago. I'm like, oh, 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.680 where we're going. They're like, we can't tell you nothing. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.760 You know when you get there. So now we have 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.080 old hair airport. I'm like, what the fund is we 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.360 doing at the airport. So they holding me as we 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.440 walked through t saying it's two Samoan dudes, and it 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.120 was a black lady. She's like, get your hands off 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.960 that boy. What's your guy? I'm like, I don't know them. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.240 I run away in the airport. I run to a 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.440 daddy and my dumbass. I'm like, man, just take me 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.360 wherever you are gonna take me. We get there, we 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.640 get on the first plane. We go to Lake Vegas. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.120 They give me a note. The note from my mom 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.760 basically saying she signed away all her child parenttal rights 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.720 to a concentration camp type ship and I was going 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.680 to school or whatever, and From there, I ended up 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:30.080 in Spokane, Washington. From there, I ended up in Thompson Falls, Montana. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.520 And that's how I lost my record deal with DMX. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.720 They put me in a boarding school to where you 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.240 couldn't look at girls who couldn't have condiments while bay 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.240 and they're paying five thousand. I was a month for 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.000 you to be there. So while you were there and 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.200 they tell you a piece of ship, your parents are 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.360 going to seminars to convince them to tell them it's 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.760 the best thing for you. Now, me being a delinqu 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.680 when I acted up there, they sent me to Jamaica 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.200 to some ship called High Impact. So I had to 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:57.840 walk the same school sent you Ica. Your parents. These 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.120 people are just moving around. They signed over there. So 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.320 I was being I was acting out in Montana and 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.240 they sent me to some ship called high Impact in Jamaica. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.880 I had to walk a hunted laps with a ten 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.520 pound brick on my back get back to Thompson Falls, Montana. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.760 And I did that, and then my father finally came 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.280 and got me like, no, i'muna say that. I didn't 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.320 know nine eleven happened. I didn't know nothing. You couldn't 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.760 watch TV. You couldn't read books, you couldn't do it, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.800 so you basically just cut off from the world. And 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.520 that's how I lost my record deal with the MX. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.159 What's the name of the school. It was called Spring 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.840 Creek Academy and they if you google it right now, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.040 like they got shipped with like the people the guards 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.280 were sexually harassing people, Like they found out that the 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.720 owner of the ship was a molester. Like it's like 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:43.000 a crazy, crazy story. Oh, they sent there to a 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:47.600 boarding school. And people don't realize that, not even just 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.919 black any like rich people, rich people sitting their kids 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:56.400 to boarding school, like boarding school. Yeah, my mom said, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.560 you do one more thing. So what happened there? Your 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.040 parents cause afford the board that's why you didn't know 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.440 he didn't do that thing or what happened. I think 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.439 that's what saved the five came. That's when I got 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.120 kicked out of school. So when I got finally kicked out, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.840 like my father came up to the school, it's like 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.800 maybe like a month and a half left of school. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.159 My father came up to school for like the you know, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.880 fourteen times, and the principal looked at my father said, listen, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.880 if you take him home and never bring him back. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:35.840 I'll pass him, take him. He was like me, but 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:41.640 he was doing this in a military house, my father military. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:47.080 What I got torn out of the frame. It was different. See, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.199 I was getting all F my whole park car with 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.400 F when I got these, boy, I was getting Jordan's. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.520 I gotta see, boy, I was getting in Jordan's. That's crazy. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.119 But you know, you know what the wild thing about that? 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.840 And I was having a conversation with my guy both 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.320 that produced the show as we were talking about that, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:10.120 and a lot of times, what it is is this curriculum. Right, 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:16.080 Like you were a talented child, right, that doesn't mean 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.800 that that fits inside of the frame of the way 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.960 that our curriculums set up. They were trying to teach 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.480 you things that you were never going to use in 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.040 your life, right, Because let's let's be honest, most of 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:34.320 these things are built on people raising workers because for 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.479 societies to work, you need workers. So a lot of 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.960 times they only teach you to be that. Right. So 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.600 when you have this talent, That's why you see so 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.280 many kids that have become successful saying they told me 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.760 I wasn't gonna never be shipped. It's some of you 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.800 niggers out here lying, some of you niggas lying you're 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.720 teaching to check you that you look dumbass m. But 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.480 it did happen to a lot of kids though, that 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.960 didn't want to pay attention in there because these things 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:04.160 didn't peak their interests. Interested. So I look at someone 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.880 like yourself and I see your successes and I'm like, Okay, 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.720 I get it. It's not like, oh, he didn't know 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.760 it and he's not a smart dude, because you obviously 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.960 a smart guy. You know how to run your business. 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.120 But these things that they were teaching and the way 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.240 that they were teaching you, we're not advantageous to where 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.119 you were going. Hell, I wouldn't, and I'm glad I 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.640 won't remember that point because it's something that happened later 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.840 in my life when I worked at Atlantic Records that 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.080 remind me of what you just said or whatever. So 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.639 I'm gonna keep that in mind when we get to 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.240 the to that moment though. For Yeah, that's all facts 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.560 right there. So your pups come get you out of border. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.320 He saved you? Yeah? Wait, but did he? So you 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.240 know you were going there? You know I've been so bad, 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:46.160 you know how you just so terrible to your parents 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.240 that your dad might drop Mike and be like, man, 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.879 you can't even get your mama. I could do my 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.760 mama harping on doing this ship, but I ain't put 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.760 him in a position to where he could throw any 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.320 more flak back I had already been, so Bogus was like, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.480 all right, back, God, you know what I'm saying. So 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.320 he came and got me. I found out nine eleven happened. 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.200 I found out a lead passed. I ain't know nothing 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.040 like I got lovely, I got tattooed, Leo back my 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.840 neck with folk Drake all stuff or whatever, shout to tray. 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.800 But um so from there, like my dad would just 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.440 put me on game, like yo, you know you got 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.080 cousins that do music too, Like Kenny Gamble is your 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.359 cousin Cambu. I'm like, who is that? And then they 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.080 started he started putting on game and like all the 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.640 records they rote or whatever. So I'm like, damn, that's 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.800 what's up. And my dad took me back to the city. 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.080 He invested in me, helped me getting the studio whatever, 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:36.280 get some studio time, and from there I was like 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.320 making dope music and I went and I knew Eve, 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.960 and then Troy Carter became my manager. Troy and Jay Irban, 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:48.160 they had a company called Irvan Wonder Back and then 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.760 Eve got the TV show to do on U p N. 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.320 So at that point, Troy was like, I'm moving to 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.320 l A. If you want to come to l A, 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:56.720 I think this is where you could break and I 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.920 can help you, give you some opportunity whatever. So I'm 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:11.280 the l A. Troy pay for my condo or whatever. 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.320 I moved to l A and then I was out 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.480 here and I was working with Troy, and then the 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.720 first project they got me was Eve. I wrote the 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.680 title track, the hook to the title track on Eve's 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.120 album Evolution, and I was like, damn, Like I don't 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.560 even know what ghostwriting was or writing whatever, but I 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:28.320 was just doing anything to get a couple of dollars, 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.520 to do anything to be in a mix. From there, 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:35.119 we did barbershop soundtrack that Eve was on, and then um, 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:36.680 I didn't mean a lot of people, and I met 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.680 this girl named Morgan Smith that Eve was the executive 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.879 producer of the project in Troy and Jay had signed 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.479 her to Interscope and she was a young woman, pretty 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:49.199 rapper beautiful girl, and I wrote a whole album and 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.240 so like the projects, Yeah, I wrote the whole album 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.200 top to bottom down, executive produced what it produced or whatever. 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:57.760 You know what I'm saying. I was pretty much hurt. 0:22:57.920 --> 0:22:59.840 So that was my first way to get into the game. 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.679 I never forget this ship. Um, this nigga Troy my 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:05.520 brother now too. I'm I'm gonna say that much of 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.040 my life story you might as well. So the nigga 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.520 Troy had had me wearing like his diamond chain. It's 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.920 back when diamond chains first popped off with the dogs 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.040 tag or whatever. I was wearing the ship and fucking 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.280 uh the nigga were in there. We're working on the album. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.720 I remember we're doing this ship and uh, I'm like, well, ship, 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.800 what's up? Like you know, like I wrote the album, 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.600 like get paid? Like what's up? Y'all got some bread 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:35.200 for me? He liked, think, Uh that chain I showed 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.720 payment for the album. I'm like, what's But he was 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:41.960 my manager and my dog and I love juryus so 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.440 much as y'all still to see that. I was like, yeah, 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.120 you know what, all right, I'm gonna take the chain. 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.320 I'm gonna ride it out. And this is the funniest 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.320 part of the story. So we go in the House 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.640 of Blues still alive and it's still running and they 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.600 were managing Jada kiss at the term too, So I 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.160 went in there. I got drunk with Jada kiss On Hennessey. 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.040 I'm loaded or whatever, me and Troy and so you know, 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.320 you get loaded. So now I'm mad about not having 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:08.200 no money, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, me, 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.280 y'all know Troy a little to me. And Troy got 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:15.200 into a fistfight altercation in front of the had a 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:20.439 lightweight now in front of the House of Blues, like 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.560 you know where the London is, right on that little 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:28.280 broad are you talking about? So we fought and he 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:31.040 took the chain and the chain popped or whatever, and 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.440 he took the chain. So now I'm like, damn with 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.399 the chain that You're like, yeah, I'm gonna get it 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.679 to you whatever, blah blah, and uh, he end up 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:40.520 getting the chain away. I ain't gonna get in details 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.080 about that, you know what I'm saying, because that's my 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:43.879 dog or whatever. But he gave the chain away and 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.280 I was just like damn, Like I just felt so betrayed, 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.359 Like damn, I wrote this ship. Subsequently, the girl end 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.920 up getting dropped, her mom was a movie and all 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.680 the other stuff happened. So now I was just back 0:24:54.720 --> 0:25:00.240 at square one with Troy and Sam team. So I like, 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.640 you still ain't really grown at all. So from there, 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.800 like I'm I'm on hard times, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:08.919 I think Troy and Jake, I remember that's when they 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.200 became like the remember Vincent Herbert. They did a deal 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.439 with Vincent Herbert. They had like this fucking office on 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:19.600 Sun or whatever. Yeah, blah blah, and it was yeah, yeah, 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.280 Matthew knows it wasn't. Shout out to Matthew knows too. 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:28.720 Yeah yeah, yeah, shout out to Matthew. I like how 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.960 you think too, man. So that happens, and then I 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.800 think the timeline from there is that me, Troy and 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:38.800 Jay we end up parting ways. Was you know what 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.879 I'm saying? Behind that or whatever, they just got too 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:42.680 busy for me, you know what I'm saying. Like, so 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:44.919 I was out here and I end up moving in 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:46.840 my weed man, you know what I'm saying. And my 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.560 weed man was a club promoter at a club called privilege. 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.520 And this is back in the era of t K. 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.000 Y'all remember in you know, t K worked for Hypnosis. 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.080 Now that the people that's buying all the catalogs or 0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:00.960 whatever from people t K, he's gonna find a way 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.840 shout out to you know what, shout out to Los Angeles, 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:08.280 because Los Angeles is a place where you can find it. 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:16.240 TK had a locka My god, that's when l A 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:23.760 was really yes yea Monday. So I was doing that. 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.200 My my weed man was a promoter at the club. 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.439 So he ended up introduced me to DJ Echo and 0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.640 um Echo was at Power one oh six. And then 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.640 from there, I remember I did this song called Sexy Lady, 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:37.879 and like we didn't have no engineer or none of 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.720 that ship. So we're not We're not just gonna let 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.359 you just breeze over that record. Though bro thought I 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.240 thought he was gonna get into it. He goes into it. 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:49.360 Take like that's the motherfucker hit record. Come on, don't 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.760 don't play with the record like it's just it's weak. No, 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.320 Look dude Jr. Who sings the hook on Sexy It 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.120 was like my brother his sister was so beautiful. Oh 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.000 my god, man, I loved it so that she was 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.199 one of the battle ships ever. But so that's the 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:07.040 tope bar. But anyway, um, I remember recording the record 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.080 at my engineers uh, at my my weed man's house, 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.359 and that we had no engineer. So like I would 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.800 press three and leave it from the beginning and go 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.080 run into the booth and then wrap my ship. You 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.359 know what I'm saying, and go back and do it again. Whatever. 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:23.400 So we flushed the song out and my weed man 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.320 was the promoter, so we kept going to Privilege. We 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.640 kept going to t K Ship and Echo would spend 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.960 my joint. Like I remember going there with a chinchill 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.760 on boy be hot at hell outside in that l 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.879 a boy. But I was just doing anything to be noticed. 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:36.280 This is back in the day. He was a promoter. 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.200 Wet had no money, so we would go to Rouse 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.200 and buy the bottles. Before we get to the club, 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.800 he would sneaking being through the back and then bring 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.840 him out to us or whatever. Yeah, like we're doing 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.760 a vibe, so the song starts bubbling and then we 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.520 created a database of He used to hand the clipboard 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.240 out at the club and get everybody number and get 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.879 our body shipped or whatever. So from there, Echo was 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.520 like this song is kind of blowing up, like I 0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.040 want to take you to a Power one or six 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.639 mixer meeting. I go to Power one oh six. I 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.280 tell my life story for them niggas. I cried a 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.080 little bit at the end of the ship or whatever, 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:10.359 and they were standing ovation started off and mix show. 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.800 About like six weeks later, she was in Power Rotation. 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.240 I had no deal or nothing, and it was not 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.680 It was like it was random because I'm from Chicago. 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:20.520 I'm not even from l A. So you're thinking that 0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.399 maybe somebody from l A that could be their story 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.720 that I get a record, I'll get into the DJ 0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.520 and I go up. So now I'm just blew up. 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.119 Sexy Lady was the hottest ship in the streets. So 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:35.239 from there, my management now or my business partner now 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.600 that I worked with Billy J who worked with John Monopoly. 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.280 At the time, we was all kids and should he 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.120 called somebody an Epic Records looking for somebody else, and 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.640 I think Dave McPherson and some ship like that well 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.600 Sony or whoever back in the day was the big 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:51.520 dog and a lady named Katie. Katie Welly picked up 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.240 she was a Keith and after les assistant she wasn't 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.680 she was. She was like famous one if she was 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.600 that famous music when I was that Miss Katie is 0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.760 now any yeah, Katie a big dog now. And you 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.280 don't know this, but Katie was instrumental and clearing some 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.800 of our records for it. That came through Sony, so 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.880 shout out yeah business. So Katie Welly heard the record, 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.040 called the record. It was already blowing up, and she 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.320 introduced Billy to Keith and then I did a showcase 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.880 and Keith came and from there they gave me a 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.760 label deal. Like I take it. You know, I didn't 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.040 meet Charlie Walk. I just met Keith or whatever, and 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.400 then they gave me the label deal. From there, the 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.360 record was already blowing up. And then Junior, the guy 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.520 that was on the hook, I got the big head 0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.120 and was like this, they don't even like your partner's song. 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.720 On the song, it's really about me as the hook. 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.360 I'm like, NIGGI, you ain't write the hook though, you 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.360 know what I'm saying. And you my brother, so you 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.080 know how to label. Did you write the song about 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:50.440 the sister? Hell no? He said something about he said 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:54.840 something like his sister was dating t R at the time, 0:29:55.480 --> 0:30:07.120 Jason Josh Ship. We knew his interview was. So from 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:11.000 there that happens and we get the deal. Junior gets 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.680 the big head. So Junior supposed to be signing my company. 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.920 They went back door and me epic and signed Junior 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.960 to his own deal. So I'm like, we had this 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.080 demo together and all the other ship they wanted the songs. 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.720 I'm like, I'm not getting ahing, no song. I gotta 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.160 give me a quarter million dollars or to walk in 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.360 the studio with this nigga. So they never did it. 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.160 They sent him on a world tour and then they 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.440 end up dropping the nigga or whatever office ship. And 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.800 then from there was one of the moments I put 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.000 out that record on the EP, and this is when 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:38.920 ray J was just on fire, like he was like 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:42.520 what like A like, I it's brandy brother. He knocking 0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.920 everything down like he was the guy to me. So 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.040 I'm like, I want ray J on my EP. So 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:51.640 my manager finds ray ray J who who still works 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.280 with ray J, and they developed a scooty bike and 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.360 all that ship together. That's further down the line or whatever. 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.960 So Ray come to the studio. You're like, yeah, you know, 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.440 m No, you like the sexy is in the game 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:07.800 right now. I'm like what Like, he like, you know 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.720 you got the sexy Lady. I got this record I 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.200 want you to hear though it's called Sexy Canna. I'm like, 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.520 I'm good off that. Like I already had the song 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.600 on the business with the girl cash and singing. I'm like, 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.760 I'm coming with that nixt I know what this is. 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.320 And he's like, Nah, it's gonna be big for us bro. 0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.520 So he did his record on my ship. He left somehow. 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.440 I was like no, Like I was on fire. I 0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.280 was like, had the number one regular country. I'm not 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:34.760 gonna get to that shop. I ain't gonna do that show. 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.840 I want to go with what my plan is. From there, 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.000 he got into Charlie Walk because Ray Jackson did a 0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.760 deal with Cotch Records, and if you remember Cotch D 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:49.280 and Shadow, we're working all the Urban Records and everybody, everybody. 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.280 So from there, Charlie Walk calls me to New York, 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.080 summons me to New York. I'm thinking, like we're going 0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:55.960 to talk about my next single and ship like that, 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.400 I go in there. God bless me, Charlie. I'll love you. Man. 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.640 Charlie had to be on some cope and some ship 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:03.640 like that or whatever, like whole and not. The nigga 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.560 was on top of his piano dancing too sexy can 0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.480 I Like in the in the Epic Records office, He's 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.280 dancing on top of the piano. My brother like dancing. 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.400 He's like, it's gonna be the biggest record of your 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.480 fucking career. I'm like what. I'm like the record you 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.600 turned out? Yeah, I'm like, bro, because ray J gave 0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.760 it the cops. So now they're thinking like they're gonna 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.160 back door or whatever. So I'm like, bro, I'm gonna 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.840 be the sexiest nigga in America from sexy Lady to 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.000 sexy can I am? I right saying fred is my 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.760 album name. I'm too sexy. Now you're like, how am 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.120 I going from sexy lady to sexy can I? And 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.520 then Charlie was like, man, what is gonna take you 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.040 to do this song? It's gonna be the biggest record 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.080 of your career. I said, um, you gotta buy me 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.480 an epic record. Shame He like that's all. Yeah, this 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:51.640 fucking jury man, you so look that nigga gets off 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.120 the piano and then he goes and I'm like, yo, 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.520 Jason and Beverly Hills my jeweler, you gotta get me 0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.800 the chain. He called Jason right there. Probably came out 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:01.720 of my budget or whatever. They got me the chain 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.719 on the spot. So now I'm like, man, they put 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.280 me in a corner. They to pay for the chain. 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.600 So from there I go to Miami and from like 0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.760 literally the Delano to Wet Willie's, I wrote my verses 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.600 and and finished the song in between writing it from 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.200 there so we can do that. I do my verses 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:27.400 that Circle House Studio and then the cookies Man cookies 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.800 or you know they got mango trees in the back baby. 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.720 So at that point, and this is a crazy time 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:41.120 when I did the record, like this is like my sex. 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.280 Like I was introduced to ecstasy from like r Gotti 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.280 and jar Rule when they had the Murder Mansion with 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:51.160 another just hit up last Left Turn. Yeah, I was 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.040 in to do so look, but I did my verses 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.000 for that. I met Pleasure p for the first time 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.280 or whatever Circle House Studio, and Pleasure was like, hey, 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:04.720 you want one of these? He gave ship, he gave 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:09.560 me and whatever. So I oh, and I did my 0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.719 verses but for the song, and I remember Pitt Bull 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.920 was there and I'm like, bro, you want to ecstasy 0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.360 because I'm so geeked up, but he like, no, Poppy, 0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:18.960 I'm from my MDI if I'm gonna get to it, 0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:34.520 I'm gonna get to it. I'm not gonna just reminded 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.320 me of my scarface dancing and the club. So you 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.279 he wasn't gonna play with it. So I get my 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.759 VS and I never forget. We went from their circle house. 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.319 We've been back to l A. So not a record done. 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.120 We're here in l A. And uh, they like, Ray 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.040 wants to finish the song with you. So I'm like, 0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.719 I bet so this like in between him giving me 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.359 the song or whatever. Now he did his deal with Vivid. 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.399 You know what I'm saying, Like it's through the roof 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.919 and the now now is a thing. So so this's 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.520 all of the same time. Yeah, that's all in the 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.640 same So before he had the song kind of before 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.319 he the tape came became a thing when he did 0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.160 his deal and got his bag from it. So now 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.239 you know, we had um encore. You know he's pulling 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.959 up Lamborghini right, you know, he in his bag or whatever. 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.160 So I never forget it. We get in there and 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.160 then um, he's like, yo, my brother, Um, I'm with 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.120 cash or the girl that's saying the hook on the bundess. 0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:35.919 She was like my best friend at the time or whatever. 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.040 So he like, man, you know, I don't need no disrespect, 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.640 but you mind if I like, I gotta get into 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.640 my energy. You mind if I play these I don't 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.319 want to distract your girl. And you just threw out 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.840 a bunch of vivid DVDs a porn movies on it 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.239 on account and I'm like, bro, this's my best friend. 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.239 You could play that. So we in encore he put 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.480 the pornough on the TV or whatever. Mind you, Tierra, 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.759 but Ree is his girlfriend too, so Thierra Marie is 0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.680 with him while we're doing all this at encore. So okay, 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.400 we finished this song and I'll never forget he was 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.160 doing he gotta run at the end where you're like 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.919 getting in, but he was in there like I gotta 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.520 give you my Stevie. I gotta hit my Stevie, and 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.880 like Tierra Marie was clowning him so bad while we 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.279 was doing this ship. It was the most hilarious ship. 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.680 So we finished the song and then next thing I know, 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.280 they like, this ship is about to be the biggest 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.680 song with your career is to hit blah blah. Because 0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.480 when I did this song, like Ray would go for 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.879 four bars and not say nothing, then like a minute 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:32.839 later he would pop back in with four more bars 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:34.840 and then to be blank again. So I kind of 0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:38.040 like arranged his part and wrote my part and came 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:39.680 up with other parts for us to do together on 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.560 the song. So that's how that went. From there, we 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.320 go to Miami shooting the video. So we're shooting the 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.320 first shot of the video, me and him in Lamborghini. 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.520 I'm smoking a Blunt's police around us there to secure 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.719 us in Miami for the shoot. I'm smoking this down 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.839 to a roach. I'll throw it out the Lamborghini before 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.680 the first take of the video. The police that's securing 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.800 us come pick the roach up off the ground smelling 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.359 and pulled me out the Lamborghini and locked my ass 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:08.840 up right there on God, y'all hired them to arrest you, 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.040 pretty much. Nigga took me to jail. Jack, I'm not 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:16.239 even talking about like it was nothing like about Miami jail. 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.200 I had to belt a couple of homies out. Y'all 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.160 know who y'all are. Um cost me ten thousand dollars 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.359 one weekend, you know, but I ain't gonna never believe 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:31.600 Miami jail for it to be that hot outside. Nigga 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.840 tried to ask one of the home He told me 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.040 when they got out, we got the nigs out of 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:36.840 like five six in the morning. He said, you know, 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.919 they tried to ask me for my shirt. Bro, I said, 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.960 you did you give me your shirt? I ain't give him. 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.239 They don't tell when they can ask you for next. 0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.640 Get your shirt up. Yeah, I know about all that 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.400 in there. So I'm in jail and they're going to 0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:53.520 add to the story. So this is around the time. 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.920 You know, Ray J and Shaquille O'Neil our partners on 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.560 the Sexy Canna song and money Mark or whatever what's 0:37:58.560 --> 0:37:59.879 the make of that beat used to be with Shack 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:04.400 whatever like man his name mark, and long story short, 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.040 that's when Shaquille was on his like sheriff type ship. 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.280 He just became like a cop. So the ni Shakille 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.080 came and built me out of jail like ten hours 0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.920 later or whatever. Yeah, in Miami, in Miami. He was 0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:21.359 a sheriff in Miami exactly. So he came and got 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.239 me out of jail. I think I spent like and 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.000 I was in jail. I get there as nighttime. We 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.480 shoot the end of the video. You wouldn't even know whatever, 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.440 Like it never happened. I'll get right back to shooting 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:35.360 the video. Still shooting the video in jail. There. We 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:39.239 just gotta keep going. The home gonna be good, be good. 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.800 He just he just down right, don't be good, trust 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.160 me to home. Me. His way around was the exact vibe, 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:46.879 and he was on. And when I got back ship, 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.080 he was already super geeked up on a on a bean, 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.520 on his ecstasy or whatever, and then gave me an ecstasy. 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:56.680 I popped that ship shot right back. I'm going to 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.200 watch this video. Ye listen, man, I gotta go. I 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.799 gotta go reway back into those times. I just think 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.680 about all of the clubs, all of the move around 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.680 that I was. I never had none of those ecstasy 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.960 in my system. I mean, the Valentine around ecstasy is amazing. 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:20.920 Ecstasy was amazing. Ecstasy was not today, I don't pop peels, 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.520 I don't do dress. But in that time, what it was, 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.279 it was the pure it was. It wasn't stepped on that. 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.080 It was beautiful. I used to wake up like nigga 0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.239 because you know, like ecstasy kind of gave you the bubble. Guys, 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.960 you gotta go to the bathroom. I don't know. I 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.640 used to wake up at my career Nigga and Poppa 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:41.520 ecstasy Nigga, like upon the wake up take off. Then 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.480 you know what I'm saying, you're the bathroom showers, so 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:46.080 you fresh for today. I'm being on ecstasy, nigga. Not 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:52.880 am I was? I was. I was a social you 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.840 know what I'm saying, Like where we're going, Oh shooting, 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.800 we get there, pop up, we're gonna be there for 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.800 two or three. I was turned up that that was me. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.719 You know, I come from the drug dealers, you know, 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.920 so you know my my experience of it in my outlook. 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.319 You've never done ecstasy. I've never done anything. Oh man, 0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.640 you should try shrooms like the little chocolate. Yeah, micro doce. 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:16.320 It's close to it, without the without the hangover, without 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.480 the bullshit that coming next day. You micro doce a 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.120 little bit, you'll be a vibe. You will be a vibe. 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.239 You think you're popping that management ship. Now you think 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.919 you're talking cash. Tell me boy, that ship like power 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:34.120 and listen he already called me with fifteen ideas already, Bro, 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.200 I'm cool. I appreciate you know. I mean what y'all 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:41.480 trying to do? I ain't. Yeah, thanks to see what 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:45.840 beautiful back in. So we do that, guys, So what happened? 0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.279 So we do that with range, finished the video and 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.800 then um ship they put that sexy canal and I 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.640 ain't gonna lie of that ship. It's the rocket ship rocket. 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.640 I never expected it to be that. Never, because you 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.080 gotta think they had put like styles P and other 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.520 niggas before they put me on the record, and then 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.279 they was like visually, just don't match up styles P, 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.480 Like what's super hard? You know what I'm saying. So 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.960 they win came and got me and um man, that 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.800 ship took off like a rocket. Next thing I know, 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.920 me and Rayge. They like back to back tour buses 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.080 Nigga on the road promoting Sexy Canna, which I've seen 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:22.920 some of the craziest ship on the road with rage 0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.080 shout out to him in his relationship or whatever nine 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.480 and him and Princess of number of respect. But y'all 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:29.759 gonna get these stories from that era different. It is 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:34.240 what it is, sorry, right story Listen listen. All roads 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.839 in the music that the the music bit, all roads 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:46.360 and entertainment somehow all roads somehow nigga all roads like 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:51.200 Ray Jr. Fucking urban legend, nigga Ray j took Whitney 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.320 Houston a compound with us and there you have it. 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.759 I'll never forget this ship ever. Like Whitney, and this 0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.560 was my first time meet and Whitney she was a 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.920 gangs still like she was one of the ones, like 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.480 for real, Like were in there, like she's smoking a 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.400 cigarettes chain smoking cigarettes. Vibe. Man, We had compound. We're 0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.400 in the back waiting. She like, man, send one of 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.200 the motherfucker's in there, go get us some patrol. They 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.200 came out with the gallon of patron for us. Me 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.360 and Whitney throwing back patrol shots out the gallon together. 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:18.840 From that night we went in there. She came in 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.720 the club while we performed Sexy Canna. She was standing 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.040 in the club with us as a picture on my 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.160 Instagram and me her ray j from that night they 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.479 go walking in compound like, no cop, let's take the shot. 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.600 Rest in peace. Whitney too, good terms man too, Raglar. 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:48.080 So you have your one right, you're moving at young bird, 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.880 you know what I mean. It's you know, we're out 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.080 here and making her records. You're getting that side of 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.000 the business. You're getting that side of the paper and 0:42:55.040 --> 0:43:01.719 that money. Um. And then what what was what was 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.600 the moment for you where you were like I gotta 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.440 make a ship. So look I went and like, um, 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.440 I moved to my I was living in a big 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.120 gas creb out here like all Topanga or whatever. And 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:15.600 I had a bunch of niggas living with me, and 0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.560 I looked at my bills. I'm like, damn, I'm like 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.040 spending like fifty hours a month, and you know what 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.080 I'm saying. To live before, I didn't smoke a blunt 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:26.000 or do anything like the house and nothing. Nothing. I 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.960 ain't got no nothing. It is just me. So um. 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.080 From there, I was just like, man, I'm out my 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:33.800 paper getting low, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.960 moved to Miami and well, actually I was presented with 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.680 an opportunity. A guy named Brian McKinney, who played for 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:44.000 the Minnesota been instrumental in a lot of cool music. 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.440 Ship Man. Yeah, so Brian was like, look, I'm starting 0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.480 my label. I believe in you. I know you're writing, producing, 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.400 you do good records or whatever. I want you to 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.600 help me with my label whatever. And I'm gonna move 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.560 you to Miami. And she you ain't gotta worried about nothing. 0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.080 I got the studio in my house. And at this 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:03.480 point Briant was the guy like he blew people tow 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.320 a bag. Niggers don't understand what the lineman's make in 0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.800 the NFL. They make the real back bro. He the 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:15.040 blind side. They made movies about the good bro. He 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:19.279 was getting the bag. I've never so from there. He 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.040 moved me to Miami, and I'll never forget when I 0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:27.080 get to Miami. Now it's the w Hotel Brickle or whatever. 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.200 But in the back they got the living, the house 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.080 and the residential ship. They could pay my whole rent 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.120 for a year. I think my my my rent was 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.000 like eight thousand dollars. He came in and paid it 0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.520 in one wap for twelve months like ship. So I 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.040 ain't had no bills, no more and I moved to 0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.000 Miami and I was dropped a hunting on it. Yeah, 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.120 he take this, and I was just moving around with 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.160 that nigga. Boy. That nigga was a party animal, man, 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.040 I'm talking about He's an animal man. I lived the 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.840 life of all lives with him. Like I remember, we 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.160 came out here for BT Awards, and this nigga must 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.600 have flew every little dirty lady from King of Diamonds 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.680 with him them to even the fat girls came. Every 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:07.960 little dirty nan. Me and Tank play basketball the King 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:15.880 of Dinnerstball. Did you get that haircut at the King? 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:22.200 You never played volleyball? Ye, y'all was with phob y'all 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:24.520 there with Pho Me. Y'all seeing it like y'all seen. 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:30.040 And we got there in six Yeah, we spent the 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:33.279 full take a. Brian flew like thirty women from King 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.640 of Diamonds to l A for BT Awards, and I 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:37.840 keep we were all staying at the Montreal and like 0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.840 twenty hotel rooms black and I ain't know, like it 0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:43.879 was crazy because like I was spending my own money 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:45.799 on drinks, like you know, I had girls coming through 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.600 and I walked in one of the strippers room. These 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.320 ladies had room service power to the floor. I'm like, 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.759 how y'all buying all this? Like his credit card is down? 0:45:54.840 --> 0:46:00.160 At the incidentals, I said, holy ship, I caught all. 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:08.200 Scott Ball was balling out of control. So Brian Man 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.360 he came in, really was like an angel for me 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.279 at that time because I'm still trying to figure it out. 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:15.239 So from there trying to figure it out, I'm like, 0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.800 uh fucking I'm moved to Atlanta. I moved to Atlanta, 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.719 and I realized how clicky it was in Atlanta because 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.440 it would be like Polo and them over there a 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.640 con and booing them over here. But everybody had their 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.120 own little ship, so I couldn't really get into the 0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.320 mixed team paying over here or whatever and DJ infamous 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.800 like I go and I, um Well. First happened was 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.920 I signed producers and then we did this record by 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.560 this guy. It was kind of like a one hit 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.480 one day. It was like called Snapbacks and Tattoos. Snap Back. 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.400 We did the song. Yeah, that was like one of 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.759 my first producer like joints or whatever. Yeah. I did 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.160 that record shot to Drinking Shot as a coop and 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.840 then from there, um I did put my dea publishing 0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.720 deal with my producer with Ludicrous, with Shaka and Jeff. 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.520 And the funny thing is because Sean Disturbing, Sean Famoso 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.080 and Tune Day were the little guys under Sean Shock 0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.239 and Jeff who now run LVRN or whatever they was 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.480 under them, So like I was able, they were young, 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.279 I was young. We like in the same age range. 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.560 So I got the publishing deal for my producer and 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.160 then from their idea a hook for DJ Infamous called 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.359 Double Cup and I was on the song. And that's 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.160 the first time I ever said hit makers. I was 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:28.920 on the song as me, Ludicrous, Juicy j and uh 0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:33.040 Young Jeez. So this around the time or whatever they 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.080 like niggas weren't working with me, and like this be 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:37.320 a hunted, you know what I'm saying. I was like 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:38.960 I had a bad stigma on me, but I was 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.600 Infamous was looking out for me, and Jeez was on fire. 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.200 So we're shooting a video and ship but Jez didn't 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:45.520 want to let me in none of his shots or 0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:47.240 whatever because he didn't want to be to be around 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.480 him or nothing like that or whatever. So you know, 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.359 I got lit on the set They're like action, Well, 0:47:53.400 --> 0:48:00.200 I go running. Jess already knew what this did. Ringing shot. 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:08.200 She was like, man to go chrip crazy. This was like, bro, 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:12.000 you gotta go. You already did your I did my 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.400 part already. I was just leaking around. Yeah, I was 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.600 there from the daytime. Now you know, Jeezy to start 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.279 some week coming later. He's showing up late. But I'm like, damn, 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.120 I wrote the song. It's me on the hood. It's 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.440 my song. I gave it him how you don't want 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.319 to be around me? And I'm on to it's my song. 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:29.040 From there, that was like the first time I ever 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.360 said hit maker. And I was just like and it 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.200 didn't happen like I'm hit maker, Like you know what 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.359 I'm saying. That's why I'd be weird when people be like, well, 0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:40.520 burg nigger, I'm still a burg. I'm still a young girl. 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.480 Unless I do a face off nigger, I'm still a 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.400 young bird. I can call me wherever you won't. You 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:45.920 know what I'm saying. I don't care. You already got 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:49.680 check calling me whatever out whatever. So from now, I 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:53.719 do that that record and then I'm in I'm in Atlanta, 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.200 and I had a bunch of demos that I had 0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.360 from Miami and like, I'm like, damn, how do I 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:03.520 do this? And fucking Vincent Herbert Cousin ends up getting 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.600 contact with me. I sent him a record, got to 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.719 Tamar and it got to Vince, and Vince was like, man, 0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:11.200 I want to bring you here to l A to 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.440 work on this Tamarrow album. And they flew me out 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.840 first class. I'm like, oh shoot, I'm back first class 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:17.239 because you know they can go down to coach. You 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.279 know what I'm saying. Like when I'm like cut off, 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.520 you know you're back in the humble beginning. Flew me 0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.960 first class, put me at the Sophie till for yourself. 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.440 I still be trying to fly coach. He won't let me. Man, 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.680 my ass touched the coach seat. Like listen, I don't 0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.600 give a funk I do, because you see where the 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.360 thing is. You're about to put out your single. You 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.840 will care because they don't catch your I won't or 0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:41.399 whatever like this because they won't listen, because they won't 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.719 catch me on the mouth over because no, no, no, no, 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.080 no no no no no listen listen. Takes a covert 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.560 he got from Delta and I literally put nick, I 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.080 put the cover on. If you see a white comber 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:58.440 on the plane, it's probably me, Like I don't I 0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:00.520 don't even know the trick time. So you how I 0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:05.560 do that in first class? I'll do that when he's 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.759 spending his money. You coach, He's like, man, I ain't 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.279 got time for this ship, but I promise you we 0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:17.399 send that rider to the promoter. I'm judging you. I'm 0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:19.839 judging you because I judged the women that they get 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:23.040 flyouts based off that. Like if you fly, if you 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.160 fly first class when you're booking your own flight, I'm 0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.400 gonna fly your first class. If you fly coach when 0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:29.879 you book your own fight, you get were But we're 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:33.719 working either way. I mean, maybe they're working too, but 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.000 you know what I mean. But when we're working, and 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:37.960 it's it's a part of the you know, it's a 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:39.719 part of the writer. It is what it is. But 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.040 the truth of the matter is, even when I fly 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:46.239 myself first class, right for me, it doesn't really it's 0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.399 just me. They don't really not see I have bad 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.279 luck with it, and I don't care about perception. I 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.520 had bad luck with I'm the Valentine. I had bad 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:56.359 luck as a youngster though, because it's a different type 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:58.640 of hurt and feeling that you got when you get 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.120 on a plane and like an Angela Simmons and man, 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:07.719 young bird, you gotta walk back and then you gotta 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:15.120 walk back like hey, everybody, everybody got I'll say hello. 0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:16.760 I might even stop talking to him for a minute. 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.200 I see y'all on the plane land. Man, Yeah, everybody 0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.040 got suck that up for me. I ain't flying coach. 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.439 That's my dog. My dog. Me and Bow had dark 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.320 days or whatever back in the day, just over whatever 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.399 stuff and women and stuff like that. But man, that's 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.600 my dog now. But I'm not gonna coach. I don't 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.520 get the bag has to be well, if the bag 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:42.600 is that big, then why would I be flying coach? Anyway. 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.320 I was about to say, like if it's a million 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:46.960 dollars somewhere that it's like, yo, you you have no 0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:49.759 choice but to get on it. I'm out coach me, 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:51.800 you know what I'm saying, masked up or whatever. But 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.839 I asked, ain't uh, I ain't touched no coach eating 0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:58.480 seven years for real, for real, I expect that it's 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:02.640 never going back, Okay, making no coach so you said 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.440 hit maker in that song. Was the first time you 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.320 said hit maker? Why did it become a thing? On 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:11.000 how did it become a thing? Uh? Ship, I don't 0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.399 know what just happened organically. I wish I could really say, 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:15.680 like I was like, Yo, I'm I'm gonna be a 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:18.359 hit maker, or that's what I just said. It came 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:20.880 out here to l A. Was up at the Softel 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.360 working on Tamar Braxton Love and were an albums. So 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.680 like the song that they wanted. When I get to 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.560 the studio, I owed the studio some money in Miami, 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:30.600 so they wouldn't relinquish the file for me to cut it. 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:32.880 So like I had to come up with the audible 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.560 you know what I'm saying on the spot because the 0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:38.320 first class though, and you wanna pay that motherfucker's studio 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:45.080 feel I didn't buy that. I'd have been coaching. I 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.239 was buying myself. So we do that. We get out 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.480 there and Tamar you know now, you know what I'm saying. 0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:53.279 Me and Tamar a super cool. We in a good 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:55.040 space or whatever. But she was in she was in 0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.439 her bag. This when Tamar and Vince had that TV 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.200 show like they were resting pieces of shann He was 0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.320 you know what I'm saying. He was go to guys, 0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.040 he was in there, you know what I'm saying. So 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.839 from there, I'm like, and I ain't got that song, 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.680 but I got another song that I think Crazy played 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:12.920 it for. It's called the One or whatever ended up 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.000 being her single on that project, and she loved it, 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:17.759 and um, they went and then did it. They took 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.840 my tag off the song. I'm like, damn, Like you 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:21.399 know what I'm saying. So I created a new tag 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:22.960 the way I just scream on the song in the 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.320 background and made a partnership so it still stayed on 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.320 the song. And um, that was like I was like, fucking, 0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.200 I'm moving back to l A. Like you know what 0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.319 I'm saying. Vincent Herbert was supposed to sign me, get 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:33.759 me a deal and do all types of stuff and 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.239 never panned out. I mean, show loved events. I've just 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.799 seen Vince as Circle House recently, and I went back 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:41.840 to l A. And I was kind of like the 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.560 start of like, all right, bet I'm gonna take this 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.600 l A ship seriously again. You know what I'm saying. 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.920 I'm hit maker. Now I'm gonna do this, I did 0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:50.239 my first publishing deal. I did my publishing deal who 0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.319 I'm still in a publishing deal with with Mike Caring 0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:55.279 at APG and boy and Mike luked up on this ship. 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.320 Mike might be one of the best businessman Again. I 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.279 think Mike signed me for thirteen thousand dollars. So some 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:07.200 ship like that, MAGA back then this later, I'm still 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.160 signing like Caring on publishing but be good and I 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:11.320 got a joint bench now and we got and obviously 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:15.160 right right. So so here's the other part, because we 0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.800 always talk about this, right, we want we did this 0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:19.880 show so it would Yes, we want to have a 0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.200 good time, we want to crack jokes, We're gonna do 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.160 what we do, but we also want this ship to 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.440 be informative, right, And I think what happens in this 0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:32.000 business is people always look at things as somebody fucked 0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:36.200 me over, and I know he does, and I do. 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:39.799 I look at things as someone gave you an opportunity. 0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.360 Now if you don't want that, unless they put a 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.960 gun in your head and made you sign something, right, 0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:49.960 if you signed it on your own, you know what 0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:57.360 I'm saying, and ecstasy like you guys, But you know 0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.760 what I'm saying. But you can't sign deals on extacy. 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:04.279 You can ship because everything is good on ecstasy. So 0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:10.680 you yeah, like you said, you look for a later. 0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.799 You signed that, you signed that deal. If we can 0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:15.560 find my man a lot of that would be amazing. Guy, 0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:20.520 somebody you know what I mean, right? But yeah, no, 0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:25.680 so you know you're signing that deal lead to these 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.520 other opportunities in life that you may have not got. 0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:31.360 You may have not gotten if you don't sign this 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.480 thirteen thousand dollar days. But that's the business man and 0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:36.920 you being a manager and being rich night right now. 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:40.280 Concept Like until you make it out and get some money, 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.120 they fucked you. That's all you think in the whole time. 0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:46.800 And if you never make it out, they always exactly 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.000 the eInsight when you make it out your deal or 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.239 whatever you like. Man, well damn if he didn't give 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:53.360 me that opportunity, I might not have access to do 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:56.000 the studio and do the things that I did, and 0:55:57.400 --> 0:55:59.920 from there I never forget. Um them's getting to a 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:02.560 good spot or whatever, because I love your story about 0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:04.560 the love and hip hop people that I did the 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.600 show with on season one. Um about the monis and 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.920 the dog food or whatever. So long story short, Hazel 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.440 E the girl Hazel, which we all knew, you know 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.480 what I'm saying from just being around. Yeah, of course 0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:18.560 she was. Yeah I believe it. Yeah, shout out the 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.880 Echo and all them. I remember they was moving heavily 0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:24.319 and doing that. So Hazel, we just approached me like, man, 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.439 I'm doing love and hip hop. This ship. We're gonna 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.279 do a love and hip hop holly Wood. We're gonna 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.279 put everybody on it, all the people that blah blah. 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.399 So I was like, shut, I'm down. Sure. I had 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:34.320 nothing to lose, you know what I'm saying. Like I 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:38.800 was working with Puff at that back deal with Mike Karen. 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.480 I'm at apg on Kawanga every day, you know what 0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:44.600 I'm saying, working making my rounds, doing all this other stuff. 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:46.480 So I was just like, fuck it, let's do it. 0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:50.880 From there, it came reality and then ship. At the time, Um, 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.520 I don't know what was going on. So the lives. 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:57.600 I gotta clear this up because I never really said 0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:01.040 all this ship so we do love and hip hop. 0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:03.360 I wasn't fucking Haze a Wee or dating Haze a 0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:05.200 we or nothing like that. Whatever. She was just Haze. 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:08.200 We like everybody know Hazel from being Hollywood. She was nigga, 0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:14.040 Like we was really get to that. So from there 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.720 we get to the show and now they got like 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.959 the cast meeting or whatever, so not a cast meet, 0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:22.600 and I'm like, holy ship, these are all people I know. 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:25.240 The end, I was like, oh, ship, my ex girlfriends here, 0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:29.040 so I don't know, dispect they're probably gonna go bier 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.360 with us. And I mean it's and off air, I'm 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:34.520 not gonna say nothing focused So joy Um, who's bow 0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.440 baby mama whatever future. She was like one of my 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.880 ex girlfriends from back in the day or whatever. So 0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:43.000 she was on the show like that casting for the 0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:44.640 show or whatever. So I'm like, oh, it's lit. So 0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:48.240 me and her end up rekindling. Well after we see 0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:50.640 each other at the meeting, then we now we were dating, 0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:52.880 were back into the vibe, were back into the mix 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:55.320 or whatever. So when we first started shooting the show, 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:58.640 it was me Enjoy. Enjoy was my girlfriend. But as 0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:01.160 you know with reality TV, because my choice on the show, 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:05.120 on the show, filming and the whole thing. And I 0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:07.880 remember your name used to be thrown around the heaviest 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.080 because they were like, yo, Tankan Zina is gonna do 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:11.560 the show and this is that in the third this 0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.960 season one, like what they quick what they called us first, 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.720 they called us to build the cast. So we were 0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:20.840 the first. We were the first couple called to do 0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:25.960 loving him and we so so we put the playlist together, 0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:31.840 the original playlists, and and me and him got to talking, 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:35.400 and I got to talking with Atlantic and they were like, 0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:41.600 we get it, but you don't need this right, this 0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.760 is a different kind of energy that and I was 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:52.440 like no, and so like it didn't happen right, And 0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:54.439 so for me, I you know, I was still doing 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.479 still doing tank you know at the time for my wife, 0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:00.520 we were trying to build a platform for her, so 0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:04.040 it's gonna be perfect for her. So in me pulling out, 0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:08.280 you know, they pulled the plug on her, but they 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:13.000 took everything else that we had already built. But that's 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:19.080 what that's what TV. And for that ultimately, I've never 0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:21.400 had the conversation either about that because you know, we 0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:27.000 we don't usually go I'm glad you got him because 0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.280 because in that situation, I just called it from me, 0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:34.400 I saw the future for him, right because this at 0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:38.880 this point in that year, we're rebuilding, right, And what 0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.760 I understand from what we were trying to build right 0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:44.320 where everybody's everybody's path is different. But from what we 0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:48.280 were trying to build, it didn't align. It just didn't 0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:51.480 align to what we know where we were going right. 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.000 And you know, and this is a part of having 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:58.960 a trusting client, is the fact that a bag is 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:02.240 in front of him, extra fame is in front of me, 1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:06.160 extra everything right, These is all positive things. And then 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:10.840 you have me saying, Na Champ and I guarantee, I 1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:14.560 know I'm gonna carry myself on this ship. Listen, I 1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:18.520 know I know how to carry myself right. We may 1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:20.960 know how to care, but we know how this show goes. 1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:24.000 And I've been in l A four. I don't know 1:00:24.160 --> 1:00:29.080 how many years they sent you. Man, they started digging 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:33.200 and pulling up skeletons out of that l A dirt. 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:37.560 You never know where that's gonna go. So and Ray 1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:39.720 put me on right. Once I've seen Ray was involved 1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:41.600 in Ray he started calling me or whatever he like it. 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.280 It's gonna be ten seasons. We're gonna milte the ship. 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:47.200 We back, We're gonna Sexy Cannot Part two him. I'm like, man, 1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:52.400 you know you started thinking like like, so we do 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:55.520 the show. Me and joy I like boyfriend and girlfriend 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:59.000 on the show, and like they wanted me to do 1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:01.680 like some some ship that I wasn't really comfortable with, 1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:04.080 Like they wanted us to be kissing and then that. 1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:05.960 But this is my first time being in front of 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:07.560 the TV show camera, so I don't know what was 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:10.040 going on or whatever. It's like, in hindsight, I should 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:12.400 have been telling kiss with the people that they put 1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:14.760 in front of me. Post that, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:14.840 --> 1:01:19.080 So I was being stiff on camera. She was being 1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:22.200 stiff on camera too. We both were very reserved about things. 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:25.400 And I go to Miami to work with Puff on 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:28.560 this money making Mitch album. So I get down there, 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:31.640 I'm working with him. We vibing all this other ship 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:35.640 they sat the way it set up, all the girls 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:37.400 on the show really didn't fill each other or whatever, 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:39.560 like this off the strength they create the beasts or whatever. 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:43.360 So joy I was dating one girl and then Massica 1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:45.800 was like from Chicago. She was like a best friend 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:47.840 of me. She's like my drinking partner. We hang out, 1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:50.440 we kicking. We never had no sexual relationship. We never 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:52.440 crossed the line or nothing. You know, how you might 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:54.400 got a girl that's just like my nigga like you, 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:57.200 you know, how to have fun and pretty girls like 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.000 being with you, were being around you. So this is 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:01.320 a good look for me. Ever, so I went to 1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:04.680 Messica's birthday and then I went to puffs Uh to 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:06.680 do to Miami to Puffs House to do the stuff, 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:08.960 and me and Joy fell out in the midst of that, 1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:13.000 so we never spoke again. The relationship is over. I 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:17.440 get back. They picked me up from the airport, you know, 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:19.280 because they don't they didn't. They don't allow you dry 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:21.520 your own transportation. They don't how you get your own uber. 1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:23.360 They come pick you up in a fucking mini man 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:25.760 with a bottle of the Rocket or whatever and just 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:28.480 start feeding you liquor. So they and they tell me 1:02:28.680 --> 1:02:33.080 my dress code. They're like, yo, berg come in shorts, 1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:36.480 T shirt. So I'm thinking, I'm gonna go play basketball 1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:39.560 with like Soldier Boy and Little Fears and Mariana some ship. 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:43.440 They pull up the Hazel House, so I'm like, what 1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:49.200 the fun we're doing here. They're like, yeah, they bring 1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:52.040 you to the scene. So now I'm just like oh shift, 1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:53.800 I ain't know what's going on, and I love haze 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:55.280 and no dispect the haze of our lives more this 1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:58.720 eight years ago. So um from we get in there 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:01.840 and then um they basically like, look, we're setting it 1:03:01.920 --> 1:03:03.840 up like you had a long night out with Hazel. 1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:06.600 You guys spent the night together. This Then the time, 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:08.960 I'm like, what, so, I ain't even I ain't even 1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:11.040 talked to Joy yet. I don't even I ain't even 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:13.960 spoke to Joy. I just had a girlfriend four days ago. 1:03:14.040 --> 1:03:16.360 I ain't I broke up with my girlfriend. I don't 1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:19.480 know nothing. So now I'm like a O fam, y'all 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:21.520 gonna try and have me looking crazy like that, like 1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:23.600 I'm dating a girl on the show and y'all drump. 1:03:23.760 --> 1:03:26.439 I don't So, I'm like, fun this show, I ain't 1:03:26.480 --> 1:03:28.760 doing this scene or whatever. So we're sitting outside ship 1:03:29.080 --> 1:03:32.040 and fucking Mona just appears out of nowhere like Cruella 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:52.240 de Ville, like bag you make Stevie jib oh, I'm 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:58.080 talking about that Haitian. So she like my Stevie ja 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:00.960 loving hip hop, Hollywood. This show is going to be 1:04:01.040 --> 1:04:03.480 based around your interactions. This is good. I'm like, no, 1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:05.680 funk that y'all trying to have me look like I'm 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:07.600 two times and my girl on the show, Like I 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:09.680 don't even spoke to her. They like, look, she like look, 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:12.320 then we fired Joy, she's not on the show no more. 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:17.280 I'm like, what, Like, yes, she's fired, she's no longer 1:04:17.360 --> 1:04:20.959 on the show. And I can't call shortly because we ain't. 1:04:24.320 --> 1:04:25.480 So I'm like, you want me to go in there 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:28.280 and be myself, like just beat me? And they're like, yeah, 1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:30.360 just going there and do it. How are you feel? 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:32.960 Just do it? So I go in there and they 1:04:33.040 --> 1:04:34.919 got her capped up. You know what I'm saying. She's 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:38.600 in a robe and lingerie neglige or whatever, and like, granted, 1:04:38.800 --> 1:04:40.400 I'm gonna be clear on this because I know it's 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:43.000 gonna go viral, and you know, she might have something 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:45.480 to say everybody about this. Whatever I had slept with 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:48.400 Hazel Pride previously or whatever, it wasn't my girlfriend. I 1:04:48.920 --> 1:04:51.240 already we had already slept together, but it wasn't like 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:54.439 we were actively dating or whatever in our past from 1:04:54.520 --> 1:04:57.000 her being a publicist and whatever, back when I used 1:04:57.000 --> 1:04:58.800 to live at the Archstone or some ship like that 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:02.680 or whatever like that what it was. So we're getting 1:05:02.680 --> 1:05:08.280 the vibe and she's like putting it on like heavy, 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:10.560 like last night was amazing, blah blah blah blah. And 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:12.480 I'm just looking like an asshole because I'm like, you 1:05:12.520 --> 1:05:14.920 ain't my bitch, hell no, like we ain't did this 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:19.800 when uh? And then Ship I kind of dogged on her, 1:05:19.920 --> 1:05:21.720 you know what I'm saying, like, and I left the 1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:26.040 scene it like this is amazing, this is great. Yeah, 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:29.800 And I'm like, what this girl crying inside throwing Ship 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:33.800 inside her career right now? Like now, granted speaking now 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:36.000 that I know in hindsight, she might have been putting 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:38.960 on for the camera to you know what everybody looking 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:42.400 at and out because if you don't, you get off 1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:44.080 the show. And this is what I didn't know. This 1:05:44.160 --> 1:05:46.120 is what I found out later. If you're not in 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:52.000 the episode, no, so you can shoot three hundred scenes. 1:05:52.080 --> 1:05:54.120 If you won't, if your content not good and you 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:56.640 don't make that screen, you're gonna get paid. So as 1:05:56.720 --> 1:05:58.919 much as you went to Zara and watch your little 1:05:58.960 --> 1:06:06.000 boys whatever, like shut up, he made me out, he did, 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:09.320 You're gonna get your money back from Zara. Bro. I 1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:13.280 was ar down. I was in zarahead to tour. I 1:06:13.400 --> 1:06:16.720 was first man, I was right not I want to 1:06:16.760 --> 1:06:19.880 always pay for my first glass fight. But he won't 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:22.880 catch me and coach with nose around h bro. They 1:06:22.920 --> 1:06:29.080 wouldn't give my Tsara money back. So he was important 1:06:29.120 --> 1:06:31.520 back there to like it's all Richard Mills and Big 1:06:31.560 --> 1:06:36.840 Shan take it right. That was important to take only 1:06:36.920 --> 1:06:40.600 makes that color brand right. Everybody don't make that color brother, 1:06:41.760 --> 1:06:45.880 Yeah right, yeah, you gotta coordinate. You gotta coordinator. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:53.720 you got a mush so you're right. You know that ship. 1:06:55.400 --> 1:06:59.360 So I'm doing all my tar ship and uh um 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:02.880 doing that. We're shooting a show or whatever, and it's 1:07:02.920 --> 1:07:04.920 not going the way I would like it to go, 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:08.080 you know what I'm saying. But now, once you're in 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.160 the show and you're in the matrix of the show, 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:12.360 then you really become that, you know what I'm saying. 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:14.960 That's why I feel like I said my condolence. It's 1:07:15.040 --> 1:07:17.720 not not not feel bad, but like I feel how 1:07:17.840 --> 1:07:20.840 every person has ever been on that franchise, whatever feels 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:23.240 if they don't make it out of the franchise. You 1:07:23.280 --> 1:07:25.160 know what I'm saying, Because it's like your life is 1:07:25.280 --> 1:07:29.600 encompassed with that ship now, so whatever we do that 1:07:29.920 --> 1:07:32.120 I do love and hip hop. Then like Mona like 1:07:32.280 --> 1:07:36.560 approaches me and it was like, big, would you be 1:07:36.720 --> 1:07:40.479 down to kiss Mexico on TV? I'm like, yeah, y'all 1:07:40.480 --> 1:07:43.120 got me with this whole other story or whatever with 1:07:43.400 --> 1:07:48.800 somebody this two story later bad looking and ship I 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:53.160 kissed on TV and sh it evolved into something else, 1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:54.720 you know what I'm saying. And now me and her 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:56.440 was the thing on the TV show. So a long 1:07:56.520 --> 1:07:58.680 story shows a bunch of bullshit on TV show and 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:05.040 uh it ended, and then they tried to like murder me, 1:08:05.160 --> 1:08:06.800 like Mona and them and try to paint me in 1:08:06.920 --> 1:08:08.960 such a bad way. It was just like damn. And 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:10.800 like I was like, damn, I'm doing a TV show 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:13.439 because I'm working with puff or whatever. And it missed 1:08:13.560 --> 1:08:15.800 me doing the TV show. Like how you said good 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:18.560 investments and niggas gave you an opportunity. I was in 1:08:18.720 --> 1:08:21.599 APG and I did a hook with to a fucking 1:08:21.640 --> 1:08:23.760 popping oak beat and I name the song Nicky and 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:26.360 hit making. I'm like, man, Nicki Minaj is gonna work 1:08:26.400 --> 1:08:28.519 with me. I'm about to work with Nicki Minaj. Watch 1:08:28.600 --> 1:08:31.400 this ship, bro, and then I go see sounds at 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:34.880 Glenwood Studio randomly. He was working with Esther Dean and 1:08:34.960 --> 1:08:37.840 her her artist back in the day. And then my 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:40.000 brother Doc was like, man, I've just seen Nicki Minah 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:42.120 and see in the same studio. I did a song 1:08:42.200 --> 1:08:44.640 like a day before. I'm like, what, go tell her. 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:47.600 I'm in hill tell him in hell. They brought me 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:50.120 in the studio to meet Nicki Minas. I pressed play 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:51.840 on a whole bunch of ships and like literally she 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:54.439 took me under her wing like this, like and never 1:08:54.560 --> 1:08:59.160 let me seeing it from the outside, looking like what 1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:02.400 the is young bird? Like I'm talking about. She had 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:05.479 me like this and was just like, my studio is 1:09:05.520 --> 1:09:08.280 your studio. If I'm not here to take over, do 1:09:08.400 --> 1:09:10.240 what it is. So you know, I'm flossing it out 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:15.479 to the max. I'm like, shout out to people who 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:20.519 give opportunities because everybody don't because niggas wasn't. But what's 1:09:20.560 --> 1:09:23.960 the crazy I never said this story to um bro. 1:09:24.920 --> 1:09:27.200 Well after I played my songs for Nicki or whatever, 1:09:27.320 --> 1:09:28.800 and she was feeling me and like she was like, 1:09:28.880 --> 1:09:32.160 yeoh was hard. She was like this before, like she 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:34.320 was She was like, I ain't gonna lie. I've been 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:37.439 working with you since this and double clicked on her 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:39.960 laptop and took the als nick and it was giveing 1:09:40.080 --> 1:09:45.360 a business. I was like, oh shit, but it sucked 1:09:45.360 --> 1:09:47.439 me up because I was famous before Nicki Minaj, so 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:49.680 it like at that point, like you don't even think 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:51.439 about that, you know what I'm saying. It didn't even 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:53.960 hit me altogether, Like Damn. I was really young berg 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:57.240 and had that song before Nicki blew up, so that 1:09:57.439 --> 1:09:59.640 ship was like crazy and I'm like, Damn doing love 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:02.080 and hip I can say Nicki Minaj like, so they was. 1:10:02.320 --> 1:10:04.439 Nikki was like, oh yeah, you would dropping my name 1:10:04.720 --> 1:10:07.040 like we were doing great work. I probably did like 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:08.760 five records on the album or something like that, but 1:10:08.800 --> 1:10:10.439 I was there through the whole process to the pink 1:10:10.520 --> 1:10:15.680 print and ship. From there, I leave the show and 1:10:15.760 --> 1:10:21.920 it's dark again. I'm like damn, Like n, I got 1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:25.639 my ship going over. Damn. So I got this big 1:10:25.680 --> 1:10:28.200 gass house and chat's worth like and I kind of 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:30.400 like psyched myself out like I had a little money, 1:10:30.439 --> 1:10:31.880 you know what I'm saying. I ain't had no big 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:33.519 money like I was. I had like a hunt of 1:10:33.600 --> 1:10:35.880 grand you know what I'm saying, maybe one fifty, but 1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:39.240 motherfucking I was had my dad help me get this crib, 1:10:39.320 --> 1:10:42.120 and I'm like, ye're gonna use this crib. It's motivation 1:10:42.320 --> 1:10:44.639 because I gotta pay these motherfucking bills, so I gotta 1:10:44.680 --> 1:10:46.720 work my ass off. I gotta get these placements. And 1:10:46.760 --> 1:10:50.439 I used it in motivation. And at that time were 1:10:50.479 --> 1:10:53.280 in my crib. Man, I had a bunch of bullshit funiture. 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:55.759 I was living like a nigger, just girls everywhere. Seven 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:59.000 thousand squaret for the house, just the bedrooms furnished for 1:10:59.040 --> 1:11:01.360 the most part in t bees and couch a couch, 1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:03.080 but it wasn't fully decked down like how I was 1:11:03.080 --> 1:11:06.439 supposed to be. And I've created a makeshift studio in 1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:10.040 my basement and I had my engineer being um with me, 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:12.400 and um he's now I don't know who the engineering now, 1:11:12.479 --> 1:11:15.439 but that was my guy. And Jeremiah came to my 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:20.680 crib and he was like bro Let's work. So we 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:22.640 started working. We and our vibe. But what that we 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:24.880 do like eight songs. And I had a girl with 1:11:25.040 --> 1:11:27.160 me and he had some company with him too. So 1:11:27.280 --> 1:11:30.040 now I's winding down They're like two thirty, I don't 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:33.360 like ship. Let's wrap this ship up, you know what 1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:34.960 I'm saying, Ready to take it upstairs. He's like, no, 1:11:35.040 --> 1:11:38.360 I got one more in me. I'm like, man, come home, bro, Man, 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:40.040 I ain't trying to do it like bro, trust me, 1:11:40.120 --> 1:11:43.680 I got one more. You win the booth. I put 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:45.960 the beat up and win the booth and said last. 1:11:46.080 --> 1:11:48.040 I took a l but's in that. I bounced back 1:11:48.680 --> 1:11:52.240 a morning then and then I count. I was like, okay, 1:11:52.320 --> 1:11:54.960 that's hard. I went. I took the ship to Big 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:59.639 Sean and it became Big Sean bounced back and Big 1:11:59.680 --> 1:12:01.920 Sean was like, man, you know I love this record 1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:04.560 like shout to Metro Booming Um. He co produced on 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:07.120 the record Shout to Smash David. So he's like, I 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:08.599 love his record. You know, I don't know what it's 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:10.479 gonna be, but man, maybe we should just throw it 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:12.280 out there and just see its people. I don't give 1:12:12.280 --> 1:12:15.800 a funk. That's it. He liked, Hey, bro, do you 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:17.840 have a tag or anything you want to put on 1:12:17.920 --> 1:12:22.519 the song? I'm after all these people being taking it 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:25.160 of taking it off. Asked you about at this house? 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:28.560 He like, you got a tag bro like yeah, I 1:12:28.640 --> 1:12:31.479 went and said, my tag think of that ship. You 1:12:31.600 --> 1:12:34.080 put that ship out of ship took off like a rocket. 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:37.439 Nigga like seven times platinum now Nigger. His biggest performance 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:40.200 songs stepped by himself as a solo artist. One Hunter 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:42.599 that she like number two. She had the super Bowl 1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:47.680 commercials that she had everything. Hell yeah, ship and that 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:50.360 ship and that was the start of it, and I'm like, oh, 1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:53.519 we're rolling. Then from there, Jay Grhant, who works for 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:56.160 r C a super influential. He was like one of 1:12:56.200 --> 1:12:57.920 the n rs that was really like an A and 1:12:58.040 --> 1:12:59.800 R real nigger to us, Like boy, he would run 1:12:59.840 --> 1:13:03.240 out Paramount for us and fucking buys all the cats 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:05.799 suit you we wanted with the label credit card nigger 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:12.000 and use that mother all the liquor. And then that's 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:15.519 how Chris Brown Party happens, and then all this other 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:17.439 stuff and now I'm running them up and get a 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:20.200 couple of placements. And Ryan Press has always been like 1:13:20.280 --> 1:13:22.000 a mentor to me, and I'm like, man, I ain't 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:24.479 gonna lie. I went on Breakfast Club at the Big 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:26.720 Shan Bounce Back and Chris Brown Party, and I had 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:28.840 a bunch of placement probably had like fifty placements now, 1:13:29.160 --> 1:13:32.040 So I'm popping my ship on Breakfast Club and I'm like, man, 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:35.600 but y'all really don't realize I'm really about to be 1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:38.360 one of the biggest executives in this game. Nigga, nigga, 1:13:38.439 --> 1:13:41.400 motherfucking these labels offering me jobs right now to be 1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:46.400 and like a motherfucker like that, right now, they're about 1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:48.040 to be one of the biggest and rs in this game. 1:13:48.120 --> 1:13:52.040 Watch this ship live from there. Ryan was like, I've 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:53.920 had a conversation Ronny, like you want to meet Craig 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:59.360 and Julie Like yeah, yeah, after I've seen you at 1:13:59.400 --> 1:14:01.439 the b and I wars damn there around that time, 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:03.760 they took me to meet Craig and Julie and I 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:05.439 went in there and told the speech and which I 1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:07.920 still stand on to this day. There's nobody is going 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:10.360 to be influential. I'm really cut from that cloth, from 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:13.280 cut from that IRV Gotti, I'm cut from that motherfucking 1:14:13.640 --> 1:14:16.440 jay Z. I'm cut from that all the big producer 1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:19.200 that works with the artist cloth. You can't tell me nothing, 1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:21.720 but I lived it. He mexicate me a dog. You 1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:24.200 remember seeing me in your office Julie. Right, Remember I 1:14:24.800 --> 1:14:26.800 saw and then they made me the vice president and 1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:30.439 our Atlantic records, and then that's when they started getting 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:32.800 getting really interested. That's when they started cracking out that. 1:14:33.040 --> 1:14:36.559 I don't that For me, that wasn't the most impressive part, right, 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:39.080 because I know you can, I know you can make 1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:44.439 actually give me talking about it. But you deserved it. 1:14:45.000 --> 1:14:50.360 You want to get that. My question is like guys 1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:54.880 locked into a zone and going to run and find 1:14:54.960 --> 1:14:59.040 a thing that they are able to milk for a 1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:04.120 very long time, and you found a niche in grabbing 1:15:05.240 --> 1:15:11.160 old records and reproducing them and making them brand new 1:15:11.280 --> 1:15:14.200 smash records. You know what I'm saying. It's a very 1:15:14.360 --> 1:15:19.120 important component to that. This guy worked directly with the 1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:24.160 guy who did it before. Yeah, I love that. What 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:28.120 so what made you say this is gonna be my 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:31.240 formula and nobody's gonna beat me? You know what? It 1:15:31.360 --> 1:15:33.200 was a moment for me. I ain't never gonna forget 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:38.000 this ship. Um, it fucked me up because Nellie had 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:42.200 hot in here, right and it was going crazy. I'm like, damn, 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:45.240 this ship crazy like for real, crazy like. And I've 1:15:45.280 --> 1:15:46.920 been a student of the game. I know all the 1:15:47.000 --> 1:15:48.960 producers I know, puff you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:15:49.040 --> 1:15:51.960 damn nigs think it's really taking this sample and bringing 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:53.840 it back and doing all this other ship or whatever 1:15:53.880 --> 1:15:57.040 and blah blah. Once I found out that Nellie Hotting 1:15:57.120 --> 1:16:01.840 here was Chuck Berry, Chuck me yeah, shout out to 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:07.080 the DMV, bro, Bro, I was like, oh no, hell no, 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:09.200 I'm bringing back because the first time you hear you 1:16:09.320 --> 1:16:12.120 think it's original. You could you could put ten people 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:14.439 in this room right now and say play Nelly hot 1:16:14.479 --> 1:16:16.400 in here and say what is that song sample from? 1:16:16.479 --> 1:16:20.360 And I guarantee they won't unless they from there. So 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:23.559 then I was like, oh ship. I started looking at 1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:26.400 like for real, whole little catalog and I'm like, damn, 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:29.920 he's just making original beats and just some of the 1:16:30.000 --> 1:16:32.240 beats on original either too, Like he's taking this ship 1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:36.920 like homeboy I came to party. That's a flip. Even 1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:40.280 Nigga with his manager list and then labeled the jam 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:43.360 sty Hill Boxing showing your rocks Nigger that's an old 1:16:43.560 --> 1:16:49.240 rap record. Wow. Yeah I didn't know that, yes, Bro. 1:16:49.400 --> 1:16:51.920 So I'm like, oh ship, this nigga has been doing it, 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:53.920 but he finessed it his way, and I'm like, oh, 1:16:54.040 --> 1:16:56.479 that's the puff way. And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:58.400 do it my way and just do everything that I 1:16:58.479 --> 1:17:00.280 grew up on one or six and park on whatever 1:17:00.320 --> 1:17:01.960 and all the records that I love. I'm just gonna 1:17:02.000 --> 1:17:03.560 flip on my my own. How did you know it 1:17:03.680 --> 1:17:07.479 was time? Right? Because because that's a sweet There used 1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:09.320 to be a thing where like a certain amount of 1:17:09.400 --> 1:17:12.560 time used to have to elapse on a record for 1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:14.880 it to be a classic or even a certain amount 1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:20.320 of success. You're not. You're not flipping all platinum records. 1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:24.080 You're flipping just whatever got that essence to it that 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:29.679 you with with the field to it. That's what I'm humble, humbly. 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:31.920 I want to say this because I didn't know at first, 1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:35.560 but it was just like, man, like a producer and 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:38.280 a top tier producer. I was like, man, it's about 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.080 the work, it's about all this, which it really is, 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:43.320 but they're really paying you for your taste level for 1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:48.880 the taste of music. Expound on that because as a producer, 1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:53.240 and this is this is something that gets very very 1:17:53.439 --> 1:17:59.160 cloudy in this business, the producer. Right, we have beat makers, 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:07.400 we have producers, we have vocal producers. We have finishers, right, 1:18:07.840 --> 1:18:11.880 we have all these different things that can do it all. 1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:16.040 I mean he wouldn't. He would pretty much. He would 1:18:16.040 --> 1:18:18.200 pretty much say that I ain't helped him with like, 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:21.760 but you know that is what it is because I 1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:23.120 love hi nigga, man, And you know what I mean, 1:18:23.160 --> 1:18:25.400 these kids is my god kids, my kids his godkids. 1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:28.280 Like you know, I'm sitting there Washington, nigga say, man, 1:18:28.360 --> 1:18:34.120 ain't ain't get for me by myself records, right, But 1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:38.200 I asked you this because you're you're you're fully immersed 1:18:38.240 --> 1:18:43.200 in it, right, And I know you don't champion yourself 1:18:43.240 --> 1:18:45.800 as like I make pets. You're not that guy. That's 1:18:45.840 --> 1:18:48.720 not who you say you are. Um. I remember, man, 1:18:48.720 --> 1:18:52.200 I was dating a girl years ago and um and 1:18:52.320 --> 1:18:54.200 I kind of moved into the you know, the beat 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:56.560 making side of like buying the NPC into it. And 1:18:56.680 --> 1:19:00.800 she was like, and I had had a dog about 1:19:00.800 --> 1:19:04.040 my first condo. Man, you know what too big? But 1:19:04.160 --> 1:19:06.280 you know you can hear everything in that motherfucker. And 1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:07.920 I would have the headphones on and she would wake 1:19:08.000 --> 1:19:09.680 up in the morning be like, so, how did that 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:17.160 like the bink thing thinking go? Last night? The who right, 1:19:17.720 --> 1:19:20.840 But that's all that's all she can hear. Though. It 1:19:21.040 --> 1:19:27.240 was like think right and right but whatever right. But 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:32.200 I'm asking you that though, how do you as a producer, 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:36.920 how do you explain it to you know? And how 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:39.320 do you separate or do you even separately even getting 1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:41.840 that conversation because a lot of young is like I 1:19:42.000 --> 1:19:45.000 produced it. I'm gonna have a conversation for real for 1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:47.240 it because this is a good platform and it's all 1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:50.799 with creatives here talking about it. So look, everybody produces 1:19:50.840 --> 1:19:53.400 in their own ways. It's not really many. It's so 1:19:53.520 --> 1:19:55.280 many ways it could happen. Now I can speak on 1:19:55.439 --> 1:20:00.720 my process in my situation. So every flip that y'all here, 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:05.760 for the most part is me like yo, yo, Paul, 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:08.519 replay this or whatever. Yo, I love this record. Let's 1:20:08.520 --> 1:20:10.280 really like this, but instead of it, let's flip it. 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:13.439 Let's add a pre hook and change and added and 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:15.320 changed the key on the pre hook or whatever, and 1:20:15.360 --> 1:20:16.680 come back to the ship and do the music for 1:20:16.760 --> 1:20:19.160 blah blah blah. They do the music, send it back 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:21.519 to me. I love the music because everything he does 1:20:21.600 --> 1:20:24.360 is firing flames. And then from there I'll be like, um, 1:20:24.560 --> 1:20:27.800 ship who drums work on that ship Cardiac. I think 1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:29.559 it's got a hip hop fielder's gotta ball. I think 1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:32.720 it's be Crazy or any other co producers I work with. 1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:36.320 And then from there they get me to beat. I 1:20:36.439 --> 1:20:38.280 write the song with the person I want to write 1:20:38.320 --> 1:20:41.080 the song with. I find the artist to get the 1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:44.800 song too. I pushed the artists to do the song, 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:46.479 get through the song. Then I take the record of 1:20:46.560 --> 1:20:48.599 Jackson's I want to mix it and that's the end 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:51.040 of it. Now if it's something else, like I've also 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:56.920 an amazing mixer is very important. Absolutely, you gotta have that. 1:20:57.000 --> 1:20:59.960 Shout out to Ruben. You know what I mean. Ruben's 1:21:00.760 --> 1:21:05.160 somewhere around. Yeah, I mean he's grounding right now. Um, 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:09.720 but no, but yeah, like, please please finish. That's my bad. 1:21:09.720 --> 1:21:11.240 But I wanted to shoot these guys out because they 1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:19.120 they're not always spoken too. So um, that's one way. 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:21.719 Another way is I just have creative energy with people. 1:21:21.760 --> 1:21:23.479 They might send me a beat pack or whatever, and 1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:25.559 then I'll go and I'll write the song and I'll 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:28.040 rearrange your beat or whatever and take this and your 1:21:28.120 --> 1:21:30.840 outro that you had is really the intro and it's 1:21:30.880 --> 1:21:33.559 really the prehood and and just put together a puzzle 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:36.640 like that. So I think that real producing to me 1:21:37.400 --> 1:21:41.880 is um you finished, you start to finish. You in 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:44.760 it from the beginning of the concept to whether it's 1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:47.200 a beat that sent to you and you're like, all right, bet, 1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:49.559 well maybe can we change this around? And you get 1:21:49.600 --> 1:21:51.599 with Tank and you give it Ja Valentime, you write 1:21:51.600 --> 1:21:53.720 the hit record and then Tank wants it to be 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:56.000 here single and not cool. If not, then we give 1:21:56.040 --> 1:21:57.760 it to somebody else and I gotta get them to 1:21:57.800 --> 1:21:59.800 do it. And I mean, should I did it with Tank, 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.800 which I'm mad Atlantic man, a dirty remix man. That 1:22:02.880 --> 1:22:06.080 ship was super fire Man Goli But we did it together. 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:09.080 We worked on Sammer record together, so we know the vibe. Yeah. 1:22:09.080 --> 1:22:13.800 I think it's it's it's a good understanding and going 1:22:13.920 --> 1:22:15.519 in because I think a lot of people kind of 1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:18.160 get lost when it's like a kid that does the 1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:19.960 beat was like, well, I'm the producer on the song, 1:22:20.680 --> 1:22:23.560 and then you're like, well that's a part of it, 1:22:24.120 --> 1:22:26.160 you know what I mean? Because so when you send 1:22:26.200 --> 1:22:29.160 it to finishers, when you listen, when you send the beat, 1:22:29.360 --> 1:22:34.080 that is nothing, and then it becomes something because of 1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:36.960 everything else that's done to it, and even placing for 1:22:37.040 --> 1:22:39.880 that matter, because you go to extra step further. You're 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:43.559 not just making a song. You're like, I know exactly 1:22:43.600 --> 1:22:45.880 where this song should be. Then you got to sell it. 1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:50.720 You're you're you're doing You're actually managing now, just like 1:22:51.600 --> 1:22:55.519 Salent records to artists is very tough, very tough. There's 1:22:55.520 --> 1:23:00.240 an art to it. Bro The crazy thing is that 1:23:00.520 --> 1:23:04.600 I fight myself daily about this because that everything we 1:23:04.680 --> 1:23:06.799 said is true. But it's just a lot of capture 1:23:06.840 --> 1:23:08.800 this ship and it's a lot of ego ship or whatever. 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:12.360 That's also instial too. If I dressed like Ghazi every 1:23:12.439 --> 1:23:14.599 day or like Craig calmun every day and they're getting 1:23:14.640 --> 1:23:18.639 wore the same outfit, no jury, no nothing or whatever, 1:23:19.120 --> 1:23:24.679 and I wasn't out here in me, then they wouldn't cut, 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:26.880 wouldn't You wouldn't hear no flak. It would be the 1:23:26.960 --> 1:23:30.000 most thing because people want the look of it, you 1:23:30.040 --> 1:23:32.360 know what I'm saying now. Being a producer is a thing, 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:35.280 like so the look of it. But like I've run 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:38.840 into situations where it's like they would be like people 1:23:38.880 --> 1:23:42.280 would be jealous of your own success and the blessing 1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:45.200 that God got on you, and overlook the fact the 1:23:45.320 --> 1:23:49.880 door that you open up for them so you came 1:23:49.960 --> 1:23:52.240 out that change you. You know what I'm saying, because 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:55.360 it's like I've been through that so many times that 1:23:55.520 --> 1:23:59.320 not even on a producer or co producer level, just anybody, man, 1:23:59.400 --> 1:24:00.920 you know what I'm saying. They could be a manage man. 1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:02.639 It could be you know what I'm saying. People you're 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:06.679 doing like niggas will be. And everybody was so fucked 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:08.479 up about being in position which they don't tell you 1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:11.559 before you in position that everybody is going to tell 1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:14.479 you or what they have an opinion to skew thought of. 1:24:14.760 --> 1:24:17.000 And if it was me, I would have did this 1:24:17.160 --> 1:24:22.600 and well nigga waiting until it's yeah, especially if a 1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:24.840 nigga feeding you wouldn't get you out like nigga. Like 1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:27.200 let's say, not even me. If I was a guy 1:24:27.680 --> 1:24:30.080 that was a co producer or somebody that just made 1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:32.760 be some program beats all day like in the house 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:36.160 with my girl seven and it's somebody that's just like 1:24:36.720 --> 1:24:39.519 making hit after hit after hit, and I wouldn't It 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:42.120 wouldn't be no way you could talk bad about anything 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:45.880 about that man like hell no, and I'm big on 1:24:46.160 --> 1:24:49.400 I'm not like how it was back in the day, Like, bro, 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:51.920 I'll let you know, I ain't do that beat he 1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:54.880 programmed that beat. I did this that after everybody gets 1:24:54.960 --> 1:24:58.000 their same credit, you know what I'm saying. Like, so 1:24:58.160 --> 1:25:00.960 it don't really like it, don't really bind it. But 1:25:01.000 --> 1:25:03.280 it's like you don't come across the issues and started 1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:05.400 like that to winning, like I ain't gonna lie like 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:07.560 before I came into your podcast, like I got a 1:25:07.600 --> 1:25:10.280 plaque like this big it just came to my career. 1:25:10.360 --> 1:25:16.360 But I'm over a huntre million records old right That 1:25:18.840 --> 1:25:22.559 cs to going from my fucking uh concentration camp man 1:25:22.760 --> 1:25:25.479 for real for nine months to have an over a 1:25:25.560 --> 1:25:28.639 huney million records. So no cap still a little sitting 1:25:28.720 --> 1:25:31.240 at my penthouse right now, I gotta take it. You 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:33.519 heard the penhouse. You heard it. You heard not the club, 1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:36.920 not the club, but the house. Yeah, what's what's the 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:42.519 goal right now? Right now? For me? Like it seemed 1:25:42.560 --> 1:25:45.519 like the when I first started on this hit maker journey, 1:25:45.520 --> 1:25:47.320 he was like, man, I want to prove so many 1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:50.240 of us wrong. He's thinking, ship it on me. Yeah 1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:55.160 that you know what's funny. I don't even you know, 1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:57.120 because we've had so many different moments that we've run 1:25:57.160 --> 1:25:58.560 across each other and then ship. We've been in it 1:25:58.640 --> 1:26:03.719 for many moons. There was a moment in Las Vegas 1:26:04.560 --> 1:26:08.439 at the at the Palms Hotel studios. We were all there, 1:26:09.920 --> 1:26:13.960 US three and Ty Dollar Sign actually, and we were 1:26:14.040 --> 1:26:17.320 talking and this was the This was like the first 1:26:17.400 --> 1:26:19.519 time that I had that. Me and you had kind 1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:21.640 of sat down and I was really like, I was like, man, 1:26:21.640 --> 1:26:24.040 I really liked this dude. Man. He's a really really 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:26.519 good dude. And I remember having a conversation with Tank 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:33.960 after I said, I hope that his revenge don't get 1:26:34.000 --> 1:26:36.400 the best of it. I literally said that to him. 1:26:36.880 --> 1:26:39.680 I was like that nigga is so because you get 1:26:39.720 --> 1:26:41.800 all the extra ship we run into each other and 1:26:41.880 --> 1:26:43.680 you see a nigga and you and you're like, oh, 1:26:43.840 --> 1:26:45.559 I think he kind of liked this, so I think, 1:26:45.640 --> 1:26:49.000 whatever this this may be. But that that session where 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:51.040 we were sitting in there, I'm like, I really like 1:26:51.200 --> 1:26:56.320 this dude man, and he's super super talented. But in conversation, 1:26:56.439 --> 1:27:00.040 you were vengeful. You were vengeful, and I would and 1:27:00.120 --> 1:27:02.360 I remember I remember talent Tank. I'm like, Bro, I 1:27:02.479 --> 1:27:04.280 hope that I hope the revenge don't get the best 1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:06.559 stuff it, man, because that dude really is talented. Bro, 1:27:06.720 --> 1:27:08.479 I had a chip because you gotta think of all 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:09.960 the ship that I went through in the past or 1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:12.479 whatever it was. It wasn't because of meals because I 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:15.000 was putting myself around bad people, you know what I'm saying. Like, 1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:16.760 so I took a lot of ls, not on the 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:19.200 strength of me personally being a person that was supposed 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:22.000 to have that ill. But I'm the I'm the famous guy, 1:27:22.120 --> 1:27:25.320 so you you hold that L. So at that point, man, 1:27:25.400 --> 1:27:28.320 I was just like like in my mind, I was thinking, like, man, 1:27:28.640 --> 1:27:30.559 these things they're gonna see. I'm the step on either. 1:27:31.080 --> 1:27:34.479 But now my whole vibe, Bro, this ship is a testimony, bro, 1:27:35.000 --> 1:27:36.720 Like I don't even want to do nothing. It's not 1:27:36.800 --> 1:27:39.040 about holding my own dick and being like I'm the 1:27:39.160 --> 1:27:41.400 nigga and I'm hit maker bolled. I ain't on none 1:27:41.439 --> 1:27:43.880 of that ship. I'm still young berg nigga. I'll still 1:27:43.920 --> 1:27:46.960 meet people every day, get them opportunity nigga. If you 1:27:47.080 --> 1:27:49.519 it don't matter, I don't care if you black, blue, brown, nigga, 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:51.840 if you talented and you could flex up and you 1:27:51.880 --> 1:27:54.519 could work with me the studio. Every day I'm touching 1:27:54.600 --> 1:27:58.040 somebody else. I'm giving people opportunities. All my co writers 1:27:58.120 --> 1:27:59.880 that I worked with, I'm putting them on my single 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:02.760 on my album. It's not about me no more. I'm good. 1:28:03.320 --> 1:28:06.280 It's about the inspiring the next person. Maybe I could 1:28:06.280 --> 1:28:08.040 put the ball in somebody else hand that when I 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:10.360 decided to stop dribbling, that motherfucker that could pull me 1:28:10.520 --> 1:28:13.080 up circle or success type ship, you know what I'm saying, 1:28:13.240 --> 1:28:17.000 And on a big scale, anybody that's living that seeing 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:20.000 my journey man and know that this ship is so 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:25.920 possible as long as you work hard and keep diving. First, bro, yes, bro, 1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:28.800 Like it's niggas that dissed me and songs that that 1:28:29.000 --> 1:28:32.760 that pay me top dollar for songs now, but not 1:28:32.920 --> 1:28:35.400 even like the dis because like whatever happened, it was 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:37.760 a relevant punchline in But the way you're gonna stop 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:39.400 and not get your money and go work and do 1:28:39.479 --> 1:28:41.400 all this other ship because the nigga felt somebody way, 1:28:41.680 --> 1:28:45.840 you have to strip all that ship down like man 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:48.800 and just be like who's next? Like look at this, 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:51.519 look at what God bless me with. That's not even 1:28:52.800 --> 1:28:56.040 focused on. Yeah, let's not focus on no bullshit or whatever. Man, 1:28:56.160 --> 1:28:58.560 Let's be a light. Let somebody be inspired by you, 1:28:59.120 --> 1:29:02.160 let somebody feel man. I can take it there. Yeah, 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:05.000 because it's possible. And and and I say that to 1:29:05.040 --> 1:29:07.160 the circle all the way back. Like the course. Right, 1:29:08.680 --> 1:29:15.639 we all have a story, we all have a gang 1:29:15.720 --> 1:29:19.599 of els, but it was all par for the course. 1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:23.040 And we can do one or two things, right. We 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:27.120 can repeat the cycle, or we can decide to do 1:29:27.280 --> 1:29:31.960 better and start a different cycle. And that's what me 1:29:32.040 --> 1:29:36.080 and this guy is committed to and loving hearing you 1:29:36.240 --> 1:29:39.240 say that you've committed to that same thing, because that's 1:29:39.280 --> 1:29:42.880 what's gonna make the difference in our culture, not continuing 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:46.720 to repeat the cycle where we continue to hold each 1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:48.880 other down and always want to stand on top of 1:29:48.920 --> 1:29:51.599 each other. Man. I can stand, man, I can stand 1:29:51.720 --> 1:29:54.120 right next to my brother man and and support his 1:29:54.280 --> 1:29:58.400 shine dance dance when he succeeds, you know what I'm saying, 1:29:58.479 --> 1:30:01.000 shout him out, like, man, go get it. Man, listen, 1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:04.160 if we all came, if we're not fighting to pay 1:30:04.240 --> 1:30:07.679 for dinner, it's a problem. It's a problem. For sure. 1:30:09.160 --> 1:30:12.559 That's how it's gotta be. As they would say, players 1:30:12.600 --> 1:30:19.080 don't keep scoring. Man, I'm I'm and that's the best, 1:30:19.120 --> 1:30:22.439 the best thing you said all day. I swear it's real. 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:25.479 I'm living in Bro. That's real. And it's a different 1:30:25.600 --> 1:30:28.439 level of maturity, right, it's a different level of maturity 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:30.800 to say yeah, like okay, and then you got that off. 1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:35.280 You know what, it's bigger than that. Hell yeah, because 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:39.360 it's like even like now, like I just see the 1:30:40.000 --> 1:30:42.439 plan and the plot being so bigger like bang, like 1:30:42.520 --> 1:30:45.760 you gotta think, Bro. I was went from I'm not 1:30:45.800 --> 1:30:48.080 gonna say lying but but speaking, you know, I was 1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:51.240 technically lying but speaking about being executive on the Breakfast 1:30:51.320 --> 1:30:53.960 Club and like seeing my life prior to that, like 1:30:54.000 --> 1:30:56.040 I always looked at the Barry Gordy's and the l 1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:58.559 A Reads and all these different people whatever. But now 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:01.760 it's like who better to be inside of building than me? 1:31:02.000 --> 1:31:04.040 Like what are you talking about? I've been the artists. 1:31:04.040 --> 1:31:06.360 I've been through any the worst thing that artists can 1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:09.839 go through, Like I went through being canceled before being canceled, 1:31:11.720 --> 1:31:15.320 Like I went through everything possible and I'm still one 1:31:15.360 --> 1:31:18.160 of the biggest in the game, relevant, making music, turning 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.880 out this ship. Like I had two twenty seven placements 1:31:21.240 --> 1:31:24.120 last year that was the six years six of my run, 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:28.200 Like two seven place pretty much place in the record 1:31:28.320 --> 1:31:32.600 almost every day damn near Like but no, we all 1:31:32.680 --> 1:31:34.320 we do is go to s we an't got no kids, 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:35.960 I don't got no other I don't got a job. 1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:38.439 This is my job. This is my life. So you 1:31:38.760 --> 1:31:42.160 believe this is your actual job. Like when you look 1:31:42.200 --> 1:31:43.720 at it, you wake and me like, yoe, this is 1:31:43.840 --> 1:31:46.920 really what I get to do every day. Like I 1:31:47.040 --> 1:31:54.000 don't think that collectively in this business we ever truly 1:31:54.120 --> 1:31:56.960 take those times unless somebody reminds us to say, you 1:31:57.040 --> 1:32:00.840 get to do this every day. This is this is 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:04.000 the blessing of all blessings. It is on a big 1:32:04.200 --> 1:32:06.920 scale like that ship, like it's it's no way to 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:10.360 be replaced or whatever. But that kind of that thought 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:13.080 kind of inspired me something. So I'm working for Atlantic 1:32:13.200 --> 1:32:16.320 or whatever, and it's like I'm lost into the sauce 1:32:16.400 --> 1:32:20.560 and I'm like, man, well you know because uh, the 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:23.320 deals I had over the Atlantic, like I really went 1:32:23.439 --> 1:32:25.880 in like man, my six setting, like my people set 1:32:25.920 --> 1:32:29.280 me up. They was everything was Gucci but um, I 1:32:29.439 --> 1:32:34.880 realized that they wasn't trying to make me a boss. 1:32:35.320 --> 1:32:37.400 They was just wanted the records from me, you know 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:40.400 what I'm saying, Like we're cool. And then I was like, damn, 1:32:40.520 --> 1:32:43.720 Like I was watching everybody else trajectory and see how 1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:45.479 people you know what I'm saying, that should go like 1:32:45.600 --> 1:32:48.080 this or whatever like and I was like, damn, well, 1:32:48.600 --> 1:32:50.920 this producer or this songwriter kind of took a dip 1:32:51.000 --> 1:32:54.640 because he only focused on himself. He didn't work with everybody. 1:32:54.880 --> 1:32:57.120 That's why I was like, I'm not singling myself out. 1:32:57.439 --> 1:32:59.599 I'm not only working with three niggas. I don't care 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:01.880 if I the email or a text or somebody hit 1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:04.320 me on Instagram. They got some five ship nigga. This 1:33:04.400 --> 1:33:06.280 is what we donn We're gonna work with everybody in 1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:10.080 the game. And you know atlantic I would. I was 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:12.800 able to be on both sides of the fence because like, 1:33:13.439 --> 1:33:15.639 I'm still an artist, I'm still a creative, but I'm 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:18.760 in these executive meetings and I'm seeing things and we 1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:21.400 kind of part. We came to a to a part 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:24.240 of the ways which we did a damage like several 1:33:24.320 --> 1:33:27.280 Number one records, hell of millions of records together and 1:33:29.320 --> 1:33:31.280 l A Read I met A speaking of l A 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:33.840 Read Happy birthday, l A Read I met, I met him, 1:33:33.840 --> 1:33:36.080 and I always looked up to him. Tricky Stewart introduced 1:33:36.080 --> 1:33:40.160 me to him formally or whatever, and he was just 1:33:40.320 --> 1:33:42.760 like so like with me. He was just like, man, 1:33:43.000 --> 1:33:45.240 you got nigga like this is this is what it is. 1:33:45.720 --> 1:33:47.519 And he's like, man, bro, I don't even really got 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:50.280 it like this or whatever, like, but I want to 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:52.680 give you a label deal, and I believe in you 1:33:53.000 --> 1:33:54.519 and I want to make sure you get the money. 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:56.679 And I'm working for Atlantic at this time or whatever, 1:33:57.280 --> 1:34:00.479 and they ain't offered me no label deal. I putting 1:34:00.520 --> 1:34:02.400 putting up hit. So I'd already did number ones for 1:34:02.479 --> 1:34:04.160 niggers and all types of they ain't come to me 1:34:04.200 --> 1:34:06.000 and say no here or a label deal. We think 1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:08.320 So l A offered to me, and I loved l 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:11.680 A and I'm like, man, this this nig is amazing, man, 1:34:11.840 --> 1:34:13.519 like I want to be around this guy. So I 1:34:13.640 --> 1:34:16.800 go back to Craig and I'm like, um, hey, bro, 1:34:17.640 --> 1:34:20.120 l A offer me would deal. It's like a million 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:23.960 dollars or something like two million dollars on signing, let 1:34:24.000 --> 1:34:26.880 me go get my money. Like we all no, no 1:34:27.960 --> 1:34:31.280 about no way. We we love you, your family, we 1:34:31.400 --> 1:34:35.080 love you. And I'm like okay. So they're like, let's 1:34:35.280 --> 1:34:37.519 let's let's show you how much we love you. So 1:34:37.680 --> 1:34:41.120 they came back. They gave me a deal. And the deal, 1:34:41.920 --> 1:34:44.840 you know, it stopped me from doing business with l A. 1:34:45.160 --> 1:34:47.679 You know what I'm saying. And because I was already 1:34:47.720 --> 1:34:49.519 locked in the Atlantic and the deal was cool, you 1:34:49.600 --> 1:34:51.000 know what I'm saying. I took the deal was an 1:34:51.040 --> 1:34:53.000 interesting time or whatever. It was a good, good deal, 1:34:53.120 --> 1:34:54.760 you know, but it wasn't what I was worth. Well, 1:34:54.880 --> 1:34:57.000 this this is what happened. They gave me the deal. 1:34:57.720 --> 1:34:59.320 So now I'm in an A and R meeting, right 1:35:00.240 --> 1:35:03.400 and they like, um, here comes such and such ship. 1:35:03.520 --> 1:35:05.920 You know what I'm saying. Everybody wants to sign this kid. 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:09.080 He has a bidding war all over Columbia is really 1:35:09.120 --> 1:35:13.120 heavy on him. A Republic or anybody or whatever they got, 1:35:13.200 --> 1:35:16.240 they got their offering. Now blah blah. He wants he 1:35:16.320 --> 1:35:21.320 wants nine million dollars. He's got one song, he doesn't 1:35:21.360 --> 1:35:23.960 have a mixtape. But it's the biggest virul ship in 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:28.360 the world. So you come in, he don't perform, he 1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:32.519 don't do nothing, don't wow me. And the Niggers was 1:35:32.600 --> 1:35:34.719 really sitting there time about giving him nine million dollars 1:35:34.960 --> 1:35:40.680 and then you realize what you'll deal with. Yeah, I 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:46.960 don't excuse me, like wait, wait what? And I didn't 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:49.479 sold millions of records out and been here for four 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:52.960 years like we what this is like the end of 1:35:53.000 --> 1:35:55.240 my concerts, like three and a half. I did come 1:35:55.280 --> 1:35:58.679 on man, like I did the ones, the big records, 1:35:58.800 --> 1:36:03.479 like y'all went and told me, we're gonna show you 1:36:03.560 --> 1:36:05.800 how much we we believe in you and how much 1:36:05.880 --> 1:36:08.559 we care about you because you're a family, because you've 1:36:08.600 --> 1:36:11.720 been with us. So from now I never forget this 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:15.640 ship Um. I left the office that day and I 1:36:15.760 --> 1:36:19.040 went back to the hotel and then ship uh. The 1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:22.000 next day that the A and R meeting kept going, 1:36:22.040 --> 1:36:25.160 I ain't show up, so like they all calling me, 1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:27.200 they are like some of mee to office. I go down. 1:36:27.280 --> 1:36:29.920 You know, I was super close with Lora and I 1:36:30.000 --> 1:36:32.240 still love all these people to the day. Because there's 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:34.600 nothing bad about this story. I'm still very successful. It 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:38.400 is what it is. So they like, what's the issue. 1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:41.320 I'm like, I don't feel like y'all believe in me, 1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:43.599 like how you're supposed to whatever. We're breaking down different 1:36:43.600 --> 1:36:46.479 stuff and they were like, well, what do you want? 1:36:47.080 --> 1:36:49.559 I was like, if you really believe in me, y'all 1:36:49.640 --> 1:36:51.840 paying twelve thousand dollars a month for me to be 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:57.280 in a studio without paying my my my engineer. I 1:36:57.400 --> 1:37:02.160 want my own studio. Do what l A Read did 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:06.240 for Tricky Stewart and back when they he was on fire, 1:37:06.600 --> 1:37:09.120 or do what y'all did for DJ Drama or whatever 1:37:09.280 --> 1:37:12.599 you want to outline it as believe in me, because 1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:15.439 I know when Tricky put me on game he said, 1:37:15.479 --> 1:37:17.200 well Ship, when l A Laugh or whatever, I kept 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:21.320 my studio. It's my studio, Okay, take it. So I'm 1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:23.760 like believing me in that type of investing me in 1:37:23.880 --> 1:37:25.400 that type of manner. And it was like, how much 1:37:25.400 --> 1:37:27.240 you think that should have gonna cause? Line when people 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:29.840 was like four or five more millions. You know what 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:31.439 I'm saying, Allowed to do it in l A to 1:37:31.520 --> 1:37:32.920 do it the right way, the way he would want 1:37:32.920 --> 1:37:36.519 to do it for three million, four million and ship. 1:37:36.680 --> 1:37:38.720 They were like, all right, bad, We're gonna get back 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:40.960 to you and see how this work or whatever for you, 1:37:41.120 --> 1:37:43.479 and we're gonna make it happen. We believe in you're 1:37:43.479 --> 1:37:48.760 our guy. And they never made it happen. So from there, 1:37:50.120 --> 1:37:53.240 I was like, damn l A read even after I 1:37:53.439 --> 1:37:55.880 dubbed the deal and I couldn't take the million dollars 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:59.519 from l A. This man somehow turned my million dollars 1:37:59.560 --> 1:38:03.800 into a song deal and still gave me the million 1:38:03.840 --> 1:38:06.200 that I wanted to do business. Yeah, Like, you can't 1:38:06.240 --> 1:38:09.640 come be a partnership here. I'm still gonna give you 1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:11.280 the same amount of money I was gonna get you 1:38:11.400 --> 1:38:14.920 to do that for this. I'm like, that's a real relationship, 1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:16.800 you know what I'm saying, Like, Damn this, this, this, 1:38:17.080 --> 1:38:19.280 this ain't what I think it is. So from there, 1:38:19.840 --> 1:38:22.760 they never holler back. And my partner Chris Sean, who 1:38:22.840 --> 1:38:24.760 was amazing, why I do all my records what or whatever. 1:38:25.360 --> 1:38:27.360 We had a group, but we still have a group, 1:38:27.479 --> 1:38:29.160 and um, he was like, man, can you see if 1:38:29.160 --> 1:38:31.720 you could go meet Ghazi or whatever and get us 1:38:31.720 --> 1:38:34.840 a deal with Empire. I'm like yeah, So I reached 1:38:34.840 --> 1:38:38.680 out to Ghazi. We go up there and Ghazi was 1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:41.120 like telling me a bunch of different stories in his 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:43.040 past and I didn't know that he worked with Atlantic. 1:38:43.120 --> 1:38:44.560 That's tough too, you know what I'm saying. That he 1:38:44.640 --> 1:38:46.560 started all the records and this on the third and 1:38:46.560 --> 1:38:49.360 I'm was like, oh really. So then once he got 1:38:49.439 --> 1:38:51.760 that transparent with me, I got to be even more 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:54.439 transparent with him about my situation or whatever what was 1:38:54.479 --> 1:38:59.759 going on. And I was just like yo, like because 1:38:59.760 --> 1:39:02.640 they put my back against the wall, like you only understand, 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:05.120 like they had put basically put a bounty on my head, 1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:09.680 like oh, you ain't happy, pay this number and you 1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:14.040 can leave or or not. And the relationship was already 1:39:14.120 --> 1:39:16.960 so muddy, you know what I'm saying. After I'm like, damn. 1:39:17.520 --> 1:39:19.800 So I told guys what the number was. I'm like, bro, 1:39:20.000 --> 1:39:23.920 like ship they want, I'm They're saying, I gotta buy 1:39:24.000 --> 1:39:26.200 myself out with this or give them the money back myself. 1:39:28.040 --> 1:39:30.680 And I was gonna give them the money back, my 1:39:30.840 --> 1:39:33.080 dumb ass. But one of my mentors, my O G 1:39:33.280 --> 1:39:35.240 is trying to do on me, said Nigga, you're want 1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:40.559 to music and you don't get no motherfucking money none 1:39:40.600 --> 1:39:43.280 of it. So I said, all right, and guys, he 1:39:43.439 --> 1:39:47.320 was just like, Bro, I believe in you. I thought 1:39:47.400 --> 1:39:48.760 you was coming up here that asked me to do 1:39:48.840 --> 1:39:50.600 a producer album or something like that. I thought we 1:39:50.640 --> 1:39:52.360 was gonna do small business. But I believe in you. 1:39:52.720 --> 1:39:55.360 Here's the compound in San Francisco. That's what I want 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:57.160 to do. I'm gonna get you a penthouse here in 1:39:57.200 --> 1:39:59.519 San Francisco or whatever. You just come work with us 1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:03.400 or whatever, and please, bro, like if you would allow 1:40:03.520 --> 1:40:05.200 us to work together, I think this would be great 1:40:05.240 --> 1:40:07.439 for us or whatever. He went and paid Atlantic thing 1:40:07.520 --> 1:40:10.479 money back and that's how I left Atlantic Records. Wow, 1:40:10.680 --> 1:40:15.120 I didn't know that name, so that that ship heavy 1:40:15.200 --> 1:40:17.320 on me. So now it's like now the game like, 1:40:18.640 --> 1:40:21.200 oh you ain't got your studio no more. They was 1:40:21.280 --> 1:40:24.080 empowering the studio. They Nigga is trying to like put 1:40:24.200 --> 1:40:29.320 chinks in my armor like Empire. They're not knowing the Empire. Damn. 1:40:29.360 --> 1:40:31.519 They were the biggest company in the game. You know 1:40:31.560 --> 1:40:34.080 what I'm saying. Like, but it's indie. It's not what 1:40:34.240 --> 1:40:36.320 I used to be. Whatever. That's like most people don't 1:40:36.400 --> 1:40:40.200 understand market ship, bro. So my back was against the wall, 1:40:40.280 --> 1:40:42.040 like I would be seeing it thig to be screenshot 1:40:42.120 --> 1:40:44.600 and ship like close friendship. It would be producers I 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:47.360 worked with and songwriters I worked with, like I think 1:40:47.400 --> 1:40:51.200 a Burger fucked up. He funked up. He's gonna fall off. 1:40:51.280 --> 1:40:55.040 After this, we had so much massive success, and then 1:40:55.160 --> 1:40:57.519 from them I got in with guys I ain't never 1:40:57.560 --> 1:40:59.519 gonna lie man. I met Young Blue in the airport. 1:40:59.560 --> 1:41:02.400 Young Blue was like, man, like, let's work together. And 1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:04.280 you know how you're being an airport. I ain't really 1:41:04.720 --> 1:41:07.160 figured out. I ain't know, I ain't taking serious or whatever. 1:41:07.280 --> 1:41:09.920 So we end up meeting again. We went up there 1:41:10.439 --> 1:41:12.920 and we was in San Francisco and we was just working. 1:41:12.960 --> 1:41:14.280 He's like, no, I need a hit. And you know, 1:41:14.400 --> 1:41:17.240 my first mind, I collaborated with Chris so much. I'm like, nigga, 1:41:17.280 --> 1:41:19.040 you want a song with Chris Brown is out of here. 1:41:19.720 --> 1:41:21.880 It's out of here, and we're going number one. So 1:41:22.040 --> 1:41:25.599 we're in there. We cut the hook up me him, Blue, 1:41:25.760 --> 1:41:28.280 Ivory Christian, we did it all together. Then from there 1:41:28.479 --> 1:41:30.680 I end up getting Brown on the record, and that 1:41:30.840 --> 1:41:33.280 was my first one out the gate with with him 1:41:33.320 --> 1:41:36.400 Brown and two Chains or whatever, and it's platting the record, 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:39.080 it's being the fucking ship. It was one of them 1:41:39.120 --> 1:41:41.679 recurring motherfucker's That Ship was tops here for forty seven 1:41:41.760 --> 1:41:47.679 weeks out of the year. Last Yea was my first 1:41:47.760 --> 1:41:49.679 one off the hip there. We came with the Peru 1:41:49.840 --> 1:41:52.640 record after that, and I did think project and I 1:41:52.760 --> 1:41:55.160 think Ship. She got the most added last week at 1:41:55.400 --> 1:42:02.599 Urban radio with our record partner to stay Yea. Yeah, 1:42:03.000 --> 1:42:11.439 shout out to my little brother Yong Blue. We're back. Yeah. Now, 1:42:11.520 --> 1:42:14.519 that's that's That's an amazing story, man, an amazing path 1:42:14.680 --> 1:42:19.200 that you've taken. And the one consistent thing is you 1:42:19.280 --> 1:42:23.880 never stopped making the music, right because this is the 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:27.960 only industry that any day of the week, any time 1:42:28.040 --> 1:42:29.880 of the year, you can wake up and hit the lottery. 1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:34.240 But you just have to continue to do it. And 1:42:34.320 --> 1:42:37.280 that and what I found in my years in the 1:42:37.400 --> 1:42:41.360 music business is the guys who don't really ever reach 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:44.840 their potential or the guys who stopped. Yeah, you will 1:42:44.920 --> 1:42:47.439 have your time, You will have your time, you will 1:42:47.479 --> 1:42:52.120 have your season. Even even some of the guys that 1:42:52.240 --> 1:42:55.840 we may not consider to be the most talented, they 1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:58.360 found their way because they just stayed in it. They 1:42:58.439 --> 1:43:00.680 stayed at it. And it's just like yo, you know 1:43:00.800 --> 1:43:05.800 that record such and such as What's her name. Hell no, 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:09.800 how many times I do that a week probably like 1:43:09.920 --> 1:43:13.360 that's who record. Oh man, that's amazing, bro, And we 1:43:13.479 --> 1:43:16.640 salute it, right, But when guys give up on it, 1:43:17.720 --> 1:43:19.960 that's when it's over. Other than that, it's never over. 1:43:20.120 --> 1:43:22.880 Like this is an ageless business. This business is based 1:43:22.920 --> 1:43:25.280 on Peter Pan you know what I'm saying, Like, you've 1:43:25.400 --> 1:43:27.840 never got to grow up in this motherfucker. Like you 1:43:28.040 --> 1:43:31.280 can make your life whatever you wanted to be in 1:43:31.360 --> 1:43:33.560 this music if you stay true to it and you 1:43:33.920 --> 1:43:36.080 you just stay at it. And for that, bro, I 1:43:36.720 --> 1:43:38.640 I just want to salute you for that because you 1:43:38.960 --> 1:43:43.160 you faced enough right for the average motherfucker to be like, man, 1:43:43.160 --> 1:43:44.720 I'm done with this ship like this is this is 1:43:45.000 --> 1:43:48.320 and to further go into it to know that Nick, 1:43:48.400 --> 1:43:52.280 you actually come from money. You didn't have to do 1:43:52.439 --> 1:43:57.559 this ship. You can hit anything and your bos couldn't. 1:43:57.680 --> 1:44:00.519 Just did really stay business. It's not as cool as this, 1:44:01.479 --> 1:44:03.920 Like let's let's be let's let's keep it. You know, 1:44:04.040 --> 1:44:06.519 this is this is the cool. But the coolest part 1:44:06.560 --> 1:44:09.240 about that ship is that I'm just getting the journey 1:44:09.400 --> 1:44:13.120 is just beginning, right, you know. It's like you know 1:44:13.200 --> 1:44:20.439 what happens though when you when you hit now now 1:44:20.680 --> 1:44:27.800 nothing's off limits, like your access now is unlimited. It's like, oh, 1:44:27.920 --> 1:44:30.960 I see it's so much clearer now and I can 1:44:31.120 --> 1:44:34.200 do so much more now with the access that I had. 1:44:34.880 --> 1:44:40.360 And if they won't do this, I'll do it myself. Yeah, 1:44:40.439 --> 1:44:48.920 that's when you hit a stride. Yeah, I don't know 1:44:48.960 --> 1:44:52.400 how you're gonna play this next second. You know, you 1:44:52.439 --> 1:44:55.559 know what he does if you see, if you're seeing 1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:57.679 what will be on man Like we got this special 1:44:57.800 --> 1:45:01.320 segment of the show Man. It's called I Ain't saying 1:45:01.360 --> 1:45:07.320 no names. You can't say names Burg I've seen can't 1:45:07.439 --> 1:45:11.320 do it. Yeah, So the story can be funny or 1:45:11.439 --> 1:45:19.360 fucked up, are both, but you can't say the actual 1:45:19.560 --> 1:45:22.439 names of the people. You can say shit around it 1:45:22.720 --> 1:45:25.759 that mother trying to figure some out, but you can't 1:45:25.800 --> 1:45:31.400 say their names young Berg, kid make up. You can't 1:45:31.479 --> 1:45:38.840 say it was me and somehow you can't you know 1:45:38.880 --> 1:45:41.040 what I mean? I mean, I know you got what 1:45:41.200 --> 1:45:43.639 was Jamie? What was was? What was the last guys? 1:45:44.439 --> 1:45:46.400 Anybody that you don't think? How did what was? The 1:45:46.520 --> 1:45:55.160 boxing started off? Whar this hotel room? Cocaine famous action. 1:45:56.000 --> 1:46:00.120 I'm not doing cocaine. Doing cocaine, I'm not be is 1:46:00.240 --> 1:46:05.360 my religious belief. That's how it starts. We need we 1:46:05.479 --> 1:46:07.880 need something good man, and we know, you know, we 1:46:08.000 --> 1:46:12.920 need a legendary hint maker story man without the names. 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:18.000 Not the names. I'm trying to think, man, come on 1:46:18.080 --> 1:46:25.040 and tap into your ecstasy and ship man. What y'all 1:46:25.080 --> 1:46:28.840 calling a beat? Beat? And they got it? Yeah, I 1:46:28.880 --> 1:46:32.240 never got to the nicknames. I never Just give me 1:46:32.320 --> 1:46:35.439 the ex. Just give me the ex. Which color you want, bro, 1:46:35.600 --> 1:46:42.040 Just don't confuse me, just give me all right, okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Um. 1:46:45.520 --> 1:46:52.360 I was at a famous person's house and I was 1:46:52.600 --> 1:46:54.640 I was working with a with a bunch of other 1:46:54.720 --> 1:46:57.200 famous people before they were famous. You know what I'm saying, 1:46:57.280 --> 1:46:59.400 Like everybody's going to come up or whatever we in 1:46:59.520 --> 1:47:07.200 Hollywood blah blah blah. And the famous person who house 1:47:07.280 --> 1:47:11.280 it was I wanted to have a meeting with me. 1:47:11.560 --> 1:47:13.679 So we like I go to the living room or whatever. 1:47:14.800 --> 1:47:18.280 But it's another famous person with him. That's a lady, 1:47:19.520 --> 1:47:23.360 that's um that's giving him a hand job under the 1:47:23.720 --> 1:47:26.760 covers that like he's sitting on the couch or whatever. 1:47:26.840 --> 1:47:34.880 But during the meeting, like she's a famous girl, like beautiful? 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:41.280 Is she looking at you? Like? Yeah? Meanwhile, she wasn't 1:47:41.400 --> 1:47:47.000 his girlfriend. The famous girlfriend is also in the house 1:47:47.840 --> 1:47:54.599 while this is happening to just floating around in the meeting. Yeah, 1:47:54.840 --> 1:47:58.240 I mean, so he's talking to you though, Like how 1:47:58.320 --> 1:48:00.800 we're talking right now? Boy? Are you getting a hand job? 1:48:03.200 --> 1:48:11.000 Enough contact with me? You are not allowed. You are 1:48:11.160 --> 1:48:14.679 not allowed to look at me while you were getting 1:48:14.720 --> 1:48:17.280 a hand job. But did she look at you know, 1:48:17.640 --> 1:48:19.680 they was in their own thing. I think they were 1:48:19.800 --> 1:48:23.600 on some enhancements. You know, you can't look at me 1:48:24.200 --> 1:48:27.480 because somehow I'm gonna feel like I'm part of the inspiration. 1:48:27.760 --> 1:48:31.400 I don't want it. Yeah, that was wild. Did you 1:48:31.439 --> 1:48:36.840 get a deal out of that? Oh? He didn't get 1:48:39.240 --> 1:48:47.200 that happened? It was whatever. That is the entertainment industry. Listen, 1:48:47.280 --> 1:48:52.559 ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, I have take I'm game, 1:48:52.640 --> 1:48:57.599 Valentine And this has been hit maker on the Ry 1:48:57.680 --> 1:49:02.920 Money podcast, emphasis on make up my way for the couple. 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:15.360 I wouldn't being money money