Speaker 1: Money. Well, take val we are the authority all th
Speaker 1: R and what's going on. I am Tank, this is
Speaker 1: the Valentine and this is the Army Money Podcast, the
Speaker 1: authority on all things R and being weak God in
Speaker 1: the building. We just rather go back, like way back,
Speaker 1: like we used to rent Lamborghinis from the same guy.
Speaker 1: Now we can afford our own that. Get the stand
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he can get more Lamborghinis to me. Now
Speaker 1: he can get lambos We got this brother in the house. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he did it. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he's doing it, but he's continuing to change the
Speaker 1: game and elevate himself and all the people around him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out today. We're gonna find out today, Hitmaker. Yes,
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you, Bro, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: than being here. Man Um I've i've I've watched you
Speaker 1: for a very long time. I think you were sitting
Speaker 1: in expedition was it Expedition? And and in the in
Speaker 1: the parking lot at the Underdogs oh joint on on
Speaker 1: in North Hollywood, put up in a ghost and you
Speaker 1: had the window down, you were smoking a little bit.
Speaker 1: You had your leg up and you said, listen, Man,
Speaker 1: you need to get some records from and I was
Speaker 1: looking at you and I need to get some record
Speaker 1: You need to get some records from me. I got hits,
Speaker 1: you got hit R and B. I got everything. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call you. Think it
Speaker 1: was already Listen cut too, you called it. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: had him, you got him that some crazy terms to underdogs, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I know y'all experienced with the Underdogs is way
Speaker 1: different than mine. But just like catching that wave and
Speaker 1: being around Damon and Harvey and all them at the time. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta think they had like the Avengers of songwriters
Speaker 1: and producers all in that yourself, jam j Q, what's Dawkins?
Speaker 1: It was just like, Bro, it was amazing. I learned
Speaker 1: a lot really at that. And that's what I met
Speaker 1: Aaron Ray that signed the Interscope or whatever. Underdogs. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Aaron and we that we built our relationship.
Speaker 1: But man, damn, shout out to Damon Bro. I just
Speaker 1: seen his lad TV interview. You are a wild boy.
Speaker 1: Listen and if him maker cause you a wild boy.
Speaker 1: I used to live with him, so you know when
Speaker 1: I was damning homeless, he let me stay in on
Speaker 1: his rooms. He was solid that he was cool. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: we was up on top of the hill and the
Speaker 1: pool with it with simmer and the state will come
Speaker 1: off just called the hot Dog water. So you know,
Speaker 1: but well, Paul, you know what's going on there. Uh
Speaker 1: so listen with what what what our what our pod?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like we are we we
Speaker 1: celebrate the music, and you go back a long way
Speaker 1: even before hit Maker. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You had hits before Hitmaker. Yeah. Yeah. And so I
Speaker 1: think I think people people. I don't want people to
Speaker 1: get lost in and what they see now and not
Speaker 1: understand the process and what it took for you to
Speaker 1: fucking get here, bro. And and if we can start
Speaker 1: at the beginning and kind of and kind of get
Speaker 1: to those pivotal points that were game changing for you
Speaker 1: and then make our way to one of the craziest
Speaker 1: change I've ever seen, we can make our way there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The people would love that, Okay, Right,
Speaker 1: so the beginning, I'm from South side of Chicago, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I started there and like, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know my parents were millionaires,
Speaker 1: so like I came from Like yeah, like I ain't
Speaker 1: never had a sandwich, a hot dog at Hamburger lunch,
Speaker 1: a bully. I ain't never had burger king. I'm briefly
Speaker 1: like a McDonald's nugget maybe or something like that. I
Speaker 1: ain't never had none of that ship in my life.
Speaker 1: And I'm in my miya thirties right now, so like
Speaker 1: that ain't never happened to me. Ever, I have peanut
Speaker 1: butter and jelly. I ain't never had a motherfucking uh chefs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, I met his pops. I
Speaker 1: met his pops at the bm I award me this
Speaker 1: fool and Damon Thomas at the same table and his daddy,
Speaker 1: his daddy cool and the motherfucker. And he keep his
Speaker 1: camera out. He said, he said wait because he saw
Speaker 1: somebody else talk to me, said wait, did they say
Speaker 1: you was Jay Pat. I'm like, yeah, like I ain't
Speaker 1: put out records in a honey is He like I
Speaker 1: know who you are. Let's take this picture because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a everybody in the mix. So he's not playing.
Speaker 1: So that that happened, And then um, I was you know,
Speaker 1: back in the day, I was, well, my next door
Speaker 1: neighbor was Shawna from disturbing the piece or whatever. We're
Speaker 1: getting some head. Her dad is buddy guys, So they
Speaker 1: were my next door neighbor. They were the first people
Speaker 1: I've seen indoor pool outdoor pool flexed up or whatever.
Speaker 1: So she was in wrap groups and she was rapping
Speaker 1: and like that kind of like rubbed off on me,
Speaker 1: my brothers and like all the people around her or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I just seen it from that view. And then
Speaker 1: as I got old, I was a bad kid, bro
Speaker 1: like not really bad, like like yeah, I was bad. So,
Speaker 1: like my parents got a divorce and my dad went
Speaker 1: back to the city and lived in one of his
Speaker 1: apartment building wanting pretty much like he went back to
Speaker 1: the hood, and uh, we was living in his apartment
Speaker 1: building on the East side of Chicago whatever, because my
Speaker 1: dad is like a real like real estate mogul in Chicago.
Speaker 1: But he when they had a divorce, we left the
Speaker 1: big house and he like, fucking, I'm gonna just go
Speaker 1: live in one of my buildings and I'm gonna raise
Speaker 1: my son. So I didn't live with my mom. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't live with my dad, I got like the opposite story.
Speaker 1: So from there, like men, I started drinking and smoking,
Speaker 1: probably like sixth grade something like that. Like so I
Speaker 1: remember being in love with Wraps and Ship and like
Speaker 1: my daily routine, like my dad would give me like
Speaker 1: twil dollars for lunch money. I would go and buy
Speaker 1: like a nickel bag of well by half hint of secrets. Gin.
Speaker 1: I would get on the bus and write Wraps and
Speaker 1: go to school. And this is like eighth grade, freshman
Speaker 1: year in high school. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: I was wild and I used to a crackhead go
Speaker 1: by me half hint of sequence and you guys, you
Speaker 1: and this guy, no, no, no, I did my research
Speaker 1: on him. He's different. He's different, like for real, for real.
Speaker 1: From there, I ended up meeting up some street niggers,
Speaker 1: you know the whole story. And then um, pretty much
Speaker 1: I created a demo with this guy named Books, who
Speaker 1: still works with Kanye to this day. They're like right
Speaker 1: hand or whatever. So my demo had Jesus to beat
Speaker 1: on it. My demo had all wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait. That actual beat, the beat to Jesus Walks
Speaker 1: was a song by me before it was Kanye song
Speaker 1: and it was on my demo which led to me
Speaker 1: to get signed as a kid. So from there, boom
Speaker 1: the dope way that the street dudes or whatever they
Speaker 1: take me, and then like we do the whole little tour,
Speaker 1: like I remember Tommy Boy wanted to sign me. Um,
Speaker 1: I met a whole bunch of people out here. They
Speaker 1: used to be a club called Luna Park, and I
Speaker 1: think like the Lakers that just won the championship. I
Speaker 1: mind you, back when I was a little dude, I
Speaker 1: was like four ft four, like I was like a
Speaker 1: little little berg or whatever for real, for real, and
Speaker 1: I rapped for like jay Z, Dane Dash, Dr Dre,
Speaker 1: all these different people. So everybody was offering me deals,
Speaker 1: and just so happened. Eve had a stylist named Joe
Speaker 1: Exclusive that he shout out always somewhere, always in the mixture.
Speaker 1: That was Eve stylist, and I've been around Eve a lot.
Speaker 1: So he introduced me to DMX at what these bitches
Speaker 1: want from a video shoot at the Paramount or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then from there I gave d MX my my
Speaker 1: demo and he was like, YO, shortly up, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get to you later or whatever. So he went smoked,
Speaker 1: and I went and I rapped for him, and like,
Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago. So my first rap was like I say,
Speaker 1: with the sense and like some twister ship and he
Speaker 1: was like, joy, I understand, what the funk you said,
Speaker 1: Give me another one. So I did another one. The
Speaker 1: whole fucking trailer erupts, and the next day I come
Speaker 1: back Aliyah's dad, they're in the trailer playing my music.
Speaker 1: They're going crazy or whatever. Lead to me signing the DMX,
Speaker 1: and that's what I like a real kid. But I was.
Speaker 1: I was like me, now I'm smoking a cigarette, smoking weed, drinking,
Speaker 1: Like were you you you with your guys from Chicago,
Speaker 1: you know with Pops, You're not. No, I wasn't whip hops,
Speaker 1: so like I'm moving like a grown man. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I was really rebellious. You gotta think back in those days,
Speaker 1: the rapping was about staying true to Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I had so many bricks in my raps or whatever,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be industry. Like I was literally
Speaker 1: selling crack, like like my parents are millionaires and I
Speaker 1: was spitting out rocks and selling them to my like
Speaker 1: crackheads and on the corner, like I really wanted to
Speaker 1: live that life like and be about that with my raps.
Speaker 1: So from there, my pops in them seeing I was
Speaker 1: so rebellious that they just standing my way. I was
Speaker 1: leaving regardless whether y'all let me go or whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: going regardless, So they took me all these different places
Speaker 1: and then that was my first time meeting Rage and
Speaker 1: then DMX was just like, Shorty, I'm gonna sign you.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be quick, but I'm gonna sign you.
Speaker 1: And I was like I bet and um, the street
Speaker 1: dudes that brought me there, they got insecure because I
Speaker 1: was working with everybody wanted to sign me and I
Speaker 1: wasn't the lead act like the guy's like son was
Speaker 1: the lead act and I won't say it and ain't
Speaker 1: selling music business or whatever, God bless him or whatever.
Speaker 1: So that ship happened and like this was like my
Speaker 1: first like crazy experience in the music business, Like I
Speaker 1: never forget it. We was in New York and DMX
Speaker 1: was pulling up the Quad studio and they're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're gonna DMX want to see you. I was there
Speaker 1: with Eve with the Street guys, so the Street guys
Speaker 1: like they pulled me in the bathroom, Like, nigga, you
Speaker 1: act like you want to sign a DMX thing. We're
Speaker 1: gonna kill your mama, We're gonna kill your daddy. Nigga,
Speaker 1: we don't give a funk. But I'm like like, damn,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a kid for a team. So I see X.
Speaker 1: I was holding back a little bit, X telling me like,
Speaker 1: we got the deal. We're gonna give you fifty dollar
Speaker 1: the Evans, We're gonna do this. But I couldn't really
Speaker 1: show no love. So we went back to Chicago and
Speaker 1: we're in the studio and the guy that owned the
Speaker 1: studio came in and he wasn't a rapp up. He
Speaker 1: just went't got in the booth while he was in
Speaker 1: there working like yeah, shorty, busting nothing your mama face,
Speaker 1: and I do this. Then a third I'm like damn yeah,
Speaker 1: So I went in the booth and I lit his
Speaker 1: ass up, flame this ass up and shipped from now.
Speaker 1: When I came out the booth to start putting hands
Speaker 1: on me or whatever, and they like locked me in
Speaker 1: the room and like books was the guy that pulled
Speaker 1: me out the room. And then that's how I got
Speaker 1: out of my contract with the street guys or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then I signed my deal with DMX and that's
Speaker 1: how that started. Yeah, he was a producer, he's a
Speaker 1: top producer. Got to just taught me all the stuff. Like, no,
Speaker 1: he's a producer, he's just a music guy. But the
Speaker 1: street guy that was running this ship was on some
Speaker 1: sugar night ship. So when like after he wrapped and
Speaker 1: I after he put the pieces on me, he like
Speaker 1: handing me a pin and in a paper like write
Speaker 1: a rap nigga, write a wrap. I own you, nigga.
Speaker 1: And then I was a kid. So once they put
Speaker 1: hands on me, you know, I went back and told
Speaker 1: my parents and that's how I got out that deal
Speaker 1: with the street dudes. And then d m X signed
Speaker 1: me directly. Shit, and this is the beginning, this is
Speaker 1: your first experience in the music. Then yes, amazingly enough,
Speaker 1: So that was that was pretty crazy, and then that
Speaker 1: started the DMX era, the Bloodline era, Like rest in
Speaker 1: piece to X man, that man was really good to me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Paul's and uh man, I
Speaker 1: mean he stole my first piece of pussy like I
Speaker 1: was still a virgin. He dirty stole my first piece
Speaker 1: of ass, like was it really yours though? Because he
Speaker 1: was the star? Yes, but look so look yes it was.
Speaker 1: It was. Well listen, we all know how this ship goes.
Speaker 1: So look we in that we in Canada film and
Speaker 1: Exit Wounds the movie or whatever with Steven Seagal and
Speaker 1: all them. And I'm up there with him while he's
Speaker 1: up there, and we go to a club and we vibe,
Speaker 1: and he loves pool, so we go to a club
Speaker 1: that got pool tables and then we vibing and whatever,
Speaker 1: and I found me a joint and I would enjoy
Speaker 1: the whole night, so, you know, to play the artist.
Speaker 1: When he leaves, he leaves in his car and then
Speaker 1: the entourage they get in with the homies and security.
Speaker 1: So I got in with the entourage with the girl too,
Speaker 1: and I'm in the band playing with you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's my first time. So this DMX is
Speaker 1: literally a dog though like rest in pieces, literally like
Speaker 1: a real dog and human form. So like I get
Speaker 1: out the car, he already in his room security and
Speaker 1: got his straight. I go up there and like he
Speaker 1: had the presidential suite and I was in room like
Speaker 1: sixteen oh two, right next to his so I get
Speaker 1: there and I'm putting the key in the room and
Speaker 1: the next thing I know, the door playing open. The
Speaker 1: presidential sweety like what I'm like? What he like? Hey,
Speaker 1: oh my uh, I think you left your person in
Speaker 1: my room. And we've never been to the hotel at all.
Speaker 1: Like we met the women at the hotel and he
Speaker 1: made a beeline away from me and I've never seen
Speaker 1: that woman again. So what I'm going to tell you,
Speaker 1: my brother, it wasn't your You weren't you weren't hit
Speaker 1: making again he wasn't hit And that was your introduction
Speaker 1: into this ship. I was trying to jump in the game. Man.
Speaker 1: He took took my took my vibe away from me.
Speaker 1: Man for real. So whoever you are, young lady, if
Speaker 1: you're watching this right now, you're not low. So what's
Speaker 1: the what's the next pivotal point? Do you think after
Speaker 1: sign of the DMX, now it's time. Now's tending to
Speaker 1: showing proved put some numbers on the board. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I think that X, when they gave him a deal
Speaker 1: or whatever, he was just so on fire that he
Speaker 1: didn't really know the business was that he wasn't in
Speaker 1: the vibe of really creating a business. He was ex
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but he had the right
Speaker 1: people around him, shot out to Jash Young, Tina Davis,
Speaker 1: Kevin lows Le or all the people that was around
Speaker 1: or whatever. So at that point, the nigga gave me
Speaker 1: a dog and was like, sure, you gotta take this
Speaker 1: dog everywhere with you. So like I literally had a
Speaker 1: dog and pitpu and I took the dog every a dog,
Speaker 1: taking a ship in depth, jam in front of the
Speaker 1: or office. They ain't saying nothing to me or whatever,
Speaker 1: like I'm really running around with a dog from there
Speaker 1: at fourteen two. Yes, so here's the crazy chain of events.
Speaker 1: So now I got guns and ship in my house
Speaker 1: or whatever, like I'm wilding. So like one of my
Speaker 1: people's double cock the gun while I wasn't there, and
Speaker 1: the gun went off, and I was living in a
Speaker 1: town home, so the gun went through my floor and
Speaker 1: went through a baby's carriage, but thank god, the baby
Speaker 1: wasn't there. So the police rushed my crib that they
Speaker 1: had paid for me. I was living in Edgewater, New
Speaker 1: Jersey or whatever. This word got back to my mom
Speaker 1: and my dad and then you know, them being rich people,
Speaker 1: I never forget. I went back to Chicago, and my
Speaker 1: mom hit me like, yeo, I want to take you
Speaker 1: to the mall. And I'm like, I'm about to go
Speaker 1: back to New York. I do want to grab a
Speaker 1: couple of things. Come on, let's go. So we went.
Speaker 1: She's getting all these mysterious phone calls and ship. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on? She's like, I was
Speaker 1: my new husband. He's gonna meet us at the mall.
Speaker 1: So we're going to the the mall. I bought some ship.
Speaker 1: I come out and it's two Samoan niggas, like six
Speaker 1: ft niggas at my mom's car. And then I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's up and she's like, they're like, hey, Chris, these
Speaker 1: guys are working on my house. And they're like we
Speaker 1: hear you do music. Good to meet you. And I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah. Then my mom is just like, Chris, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to school, and just went jumped in her
Speaker 1: car and Niga pop the trunk and it was all
Speaker 1: closed and ship like that. So now I'm in a
Speaker 1: parking lot of the mall fighting with these two Samoan niggas.
Speaker 1: They put me in cuffs, the plastic cuffs and they
Speaker 1: put all the ship out my mom trunk and put
Speaker 1: in the car and they put me in the renter car.
Speaker 1: So now I'm just riding. Yes, I'm riding. I got
Speaker 1: a record deal, I'm signing a deaf jam. I'm doing
Speaker 1: all this ship. So we're driving. I'm like, all, I
Speaker 1: bet we in Chicago. Now we're downtown Chicago. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: where we're going. They're like, we can't tell you nothing.
Speaker 1: You know when you get there. So now we have
Speaker 1: old hair airport. I'm like, what the fund is we
Speaker 1: doing at the airport. So they holding me as we
Speaker 1: walked through t saying it's two Samoan dudes, and it
Speaker 1: was a black lady. She's like, get your hands off
Speaker 1: that boy. What's your guy? I'm like, I don't know them.
Speaker 1: I run away in the airport. I run to a
Speaker 1: daddy and my dumbass. I'm like, man, just take me
Speaker 1: wherever you are gonna take me. We get there, we
Speaker 1: get on the first plane. We go to Lake Vegas.
Speaker 1: They give me a note. The note from my mom
Speaker 1: basically saying she signed away all her child parenttal rights
Speaker 1: to a concentration camp type ship and I was going
Speaker 1: to school or whatever, and From there, I ended up
Speaker 1: in Spokane, Washington. From there, I ended up in Thompson Falls, Montana.
Speaker 1: And that's how I lost my record deal with DMX.
Speaker 1: They put me in a boarding school to where you
Speaker 1: couldn't look at girls who couldn't have condiments while bay
Speaker 1: and they're paying five thousand. I was a month for
Speaker 1: you to be there. So while you were there and
Speaker 1: they tell you a piece of ship, your parents are
Speaker 1: going to seminars to convince them to tell them it's
Speaker 1: the best thing for you. Now, me being a delinqu
Speaker 1: when I acted up there, they sent me to Jamaica
Speaker 1: to some ship called High Impact. So I had to
Speaker 1: walk the same school sent you Ica. Your parents. These
Speaker 1: people are just moving around. They signed over there. So
Speaker 1: I was being I was acting out in Montana and
Speaker 1: they sent me to some ship called high Impact in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: I had to walk a hunted laps with a ten
Speaker 1: pound brick on my back get back to Thompson Falls, Montana.
Speaker 1: And I did that, and then my father finally came
Speaker 1: and got me like, no, i'muna say that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know nine eleven happened. I didn't know nothing. You couldn't
Speaker 1: watch TV. You couldn't read books, you couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: so you basically just cut off from the world. And
Speaker 1: that's how I lost my record deal with the MX.
Speaker 1: What's the name of the school. It was called Spring
Speaker 1: Creek Academy and they if you google it right now,
Speaker 1: like they got shipped with like the people the guards
Speaker 1: were sexually harassing people, Like they found out that the
Speaker 1: owner of the ship was a molester. Like it's like
Speaker 1: a crazy, crazy story. Oh, they sent there to a
Speaker 1: boarding school. And people don't realize that, not even just
Speaker 1: black any like rich people, rich people sitting their kids
Speaker 1: to boarding school, like boarding school. Yeah, my mom said,
Speaker 1: you do one more thing. So what happened there? Your
Speaker 1: parents cause afford the board that's why you didn't know
Speaker 1: he didn't do that thing or what happened. I think
Speaker 1: that's what saved the five came. That's when I got
Speaker 1: kicked out of school. So when I got finally kicked out,
Speaker 1: like my father came up to the school, it's like
Speaker 1: maybe like a month and a half left of school.
Speaker 1: My father came up to school for like the you know,
Speaker 1: fourteen times, and the principal looked at my father said, listen,
Speaker 1: if you take him home and never bring him back.
Speaker 1: I'll pass him, take him. He was like me, but
Speaker 1: he was doing this in a military house, my father military.
Speaker 1: What I got torn out of the frame. It was different. See,
Speaker 1: I was getting all F my whole park car with
Speaker 1: F when I got these, boy, I was getting Jordan's.
Speaker 1: I gotta see, boy, I was getting in Jordan's. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know what the wild thing about that?
Speaker 1: And I was having a conversation with my guy both
Speaker 1: that produced the show as we were talking about that,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times, what it is is this curriculum. Right,
Speaker 1: Like you were a talented child, right, that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that that fits inside of the frame of the way
Speaker 1: that our curriculums set up. They were trying to teach
Speaker 1: you things that you were never going to use in
Speaker 1: your life, right, Because let's let's be honest, most of
Speaker 1: these things are built on people raising workers because for
Speaker 1: societies to work, you need workers. So a lot of
Speaker 1: times they only teach you to be that. Right. So
Speaker 1: when you have this talent, That's why you see so
Speaker 1: many kids that have become successful saying they told me
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna never be shipped. It's some of you
Speaker 1: niggers out here lying, some of you niggas lying you're
Speaker 1: teaching to check you that you look dumbass m. But
Speaker 1: it did happen to a lot of kids though, that
Speaker 1: didn't want to pay attention in there because these things
Speaker 1: didn't peak their interests. Interested. So I look at someone
Speaker 1: like yourself and I see your successes and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. It's not like, oh, he didn't know
Speaker 1: it and he's not a smart dude, because you obviously
Speaker 1: a smart guy. You know how to run your business.
Speaker 1: But these things that they were teaching and the way
Speaker 1: that they were teaching you, we're not advantageous to where
Speaker 1: you were going. Hell, I wouldn't, and I'm glad I
Speaker 1: won't remember that point because it's something that happened later
Speaker 1: in my life when I worked at Atlantic Records that
Speaker 1: remind me of what you just said or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep that in mind when we get to
Speaker 1: the to that moment though. For Yeah, that's all facts
Speaker 1: right there. So your pups come get you out of border.
Speaker 1: He saved you? Yeah? Wait, but did he? So you
Speaker 1: know you were going there? You know I've been so bad,
Speaker 1: you know how you just so terrible to your parents
Speaker 1: that your dad might drop Mike and be like, man,
Speaker 1: you can't even get your mama. I could do my
Speaker 1: mama harping on doing this ship, but I ain't put
Speaker 1: him in a position to where he could throw any
Speaker 1: more flak back I had already been, so Bogus was like,
Speaker 1: all right, back, God, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: he came and got me. I found out nine eleven happened.
Speaker 1: I found out a lead passed. I ain't know nothing
Speaker 1: like I got lovely, I got tattooed, Leo back my
Speaker 1: neck with folk Drake all stuff or whatever, shout to tray.
Speaker 1: But um so from there, like my dad would just
Speaker 1: put me on game, like yo, you know you got
Speaker 1: cousins that do music too, Like Kenny Gamble is your
Speaker 1: cousin Cambu. I'm like, who is that? And then they
Speaker 1: started he started putting on game and like all the
Speaker 1: records they rote or whatever. So I'm like, damn, that's
Speaker 1: what's up. And my dad took me back to the city.
Speaker 1: He invested in me, helped me getting the studio whatever,
Speaker 1: get some studio time, and from there I was like
Speaker 1: making dope music and I went and I knew Eve,
Speaker 1: and then Troy Carter became my manager. Troy and Jay Irban,
Speaker 1: they had a company called Irvan Wonder Back and then
Speaker 1: Eve got the TV show to do on U p N.
Speaker 1: So at that point, Troy was like, I'm moving to
Speaker 1: l A. If you want to come to l A,
Speaker 1: I think this is where you could break and I
Speaker 1: can help you, give you some opportunity whatever. So I'm
Speaker 1: the l A. Troy pay for my condo or whatever.
Speaker 1: I moved to l A and then I was out
Speaker 1: here and I was working with Troy, and then the
Speaker 1: first project they got me was Eve. I wrote the
Speaker 1: title track, the hook to the title track on Eve's
Speaker 1: album Evolution, and I was like, damn, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even know what ghostwriting was or writing whatever, but I
Speaker 1: was just doing anything to get a couple of dollars,
Speaker 1: to do anything to be in a mix. From there,
Speaker 1: we did barbershop soundtrack that Eve was on, and then um,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean a lot of people, and I met
Speaker 1: this girl named Morgan Smith that Eve was the executive
Speaker 1: producer of the project in Troy and Jay had signed
Speaker 1: her to Interscope and she was a young woman, pretty
Speaker 1: rapper beautiful girl, and I wrote a whole album and
Speaker 1: so like the projects, Yeah, I wrote the whole album
Speaker 1: top to bottom down, executive produced what it produced or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was pretty much hurt.
Speaker 1: So that was my first way to get into the game.
Speaker 1: I never forget this ship. Um, this nigga Troy my
Speaker 1: brother now too. I'm I'm gonna say that much of
Speaker 1: my life story you might as well. So the nigga
Speaker 1: Troy had had me wearing like his diamond chain. It's
Speaker 1: back when diamond chains first popped off with the dogs
Speaker 1: tag or whatever. I was wearing the ship and fucking
Speaker 1: uh the nigga were in there. We're working on the album.
Speaker 1: I remember we're doing this ship and uh, I'm like, well, ship,
Speaker 1: what's up? Like you know, like I wrote the album,
Speaker 1: like get paid? Like what's up? Y'all got some bread
Speaker 1: for me? He liked, think, Uh that chain I showed
Speaker 1: payment for the album. I'm like, what's But he was
Speaker 1: my manager and my dog and I love juryus so
Speaker 1: much as y'all still to see that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, all right, I'm gonna take the chain.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride it out. And this is the funniest
Speaker 1: part of the story. So we go in the House
Speaker 1: of Blues still alive and it's still running and they
Speaker 1: were managing Jada kiss at the term too, So I
Speaker 1: went in there. I got drunk with Jada kiss On Hennessey.
Speaker 1: I'm loaded or whatever, me and Troy and so you know,
Speaker 1: you get loaded. So now I'm mad about not having
Speaker 1: no money, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, me,
Speaker 1: y'all know Troy a little to me. And Troy got
Speaker 1: into a fistfight altercation in front of the had a
Speaker 1: lightweight now in front of the House of Blues, like
Speaker 1: you know where the London is, right on that little
Speaker 1: broad are you talking about? So we fought and he
Speaker 1: took the chain and the chain popped or whatever, and
Speaker 1: he took the chain. So now I'm like, damn with
Speaker 1: the chain that You're like, yeah, I'm gonna get it
Speaker 1: to you whatever, blah blah, and uh, he end up
Speaker 1: getting the chain away. I ain't gonna get in details
Speaker 1: about that, you know what I'm saying, because that's my
Speaker 1: dog or whatever. But he gave the chain away and
Speaker 1: I was just like damn, Like I just felt so betrayed,
Speaker 1: Like damn, I wrote this ship. Subsequently, the girl end
Speaker 1: up getting dropped, her mom was a movie and all
Speaker 1: the other stuff happened. So now I was just back
Speaker 1: at square one with Troy and Sam team. So I like,
Speaker 1: you still ain't really grown at all. So from there,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm on hard times, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think Troy and Jake, I remember that's when they
Speaker 1: became like the remember Vincent Herbert. They did a deal
Speaker 1: with Vincent Herbert. They had like this fucking office on
Speaker 1: Sun or whatever. Yeah, blah blah, and it was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Matthew knows it wasn't. Shout out to Matthew knows too.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, shout out to Matthew. I like how
Speaker 1: you think too, man. So that happens, and then I
Speaker 1: think the timeline from there is that me, Troy and
Speaker 1: Jay we end up parting ways. Was you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Behind that or whatever, they just got too
Speaker 1: busy for me, you know what I'm saying. Like, so
Speaker 1: I was out here and I end up moving in
Speaker 1: my weed man, you know what I'm saying. And my
Speaker 1: weed man was a club promoter at a club called privilege.
Speaker 1: And this is back in the era of t K.
Speaker 1: Y'all remember in you know, t K worked for Hypnosis.
Speaker 1: Now that the people that's buying all the catalogs or
Speaker 1: whatever from people t K, he's gonna find a way
Speaker 1: shout out to you know what, shout out to Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: because Los Angeles is a place where you can find it.
Speaker 1: TK had a locka My god, that's when l A
Speaker 1: was really yes yea Monday. So I was doing that.
Speaker 1: My my weed man was a promoter at the club.
Speaker 1: So he ended up introduced me to DJ Echo and
Speaker 1: um Echo was at Power one oh six. And then
Speaker 1: from there, I remember I did this song called Sexy Lady,
Speaker 1: and like we didn't have no engineer or none of
Speaker 1: that ship. So we're not We're not just gonna let
Speaker 1: you just breeze over that record. Though bro thought I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna get into it. He goes into it.
Speaker 1: Take like that's the motherfucker hit record. Come on, don't
Speaker 1: don't play with the record like it's just it's weak. No,
Speaker 1: Look dude Jr. Who sings the hook on Sexy It
Speaker 1: was like my brother his sister was so beautiful. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, man, I loved it so that she was
Speaker 1: one of the battle ships ever. But so that's the
Speaker 1: tope bar. But anyway, um, I remember recording the record
Speaker 1: at my engineers uh, at my my weed man's house,
Speaker 1: and that we had no engineer. So like I would
Speaker 1: press three and leave it from the beginning and go
Speaker 1: run into the booth and then wrap my ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and go back and do it again. Whatever.
Speaker 1: So we flushed the song out and my weed man
Speaker 1: was the promoter, so we kept going to Privilege. We
Speaker 1: kept going to t K Ship and Echo would spend
Speaker 1: my joint. Like I remember going there with a chinchill
Speaker 1: on boy be hot at hell outside in that l
Speaker 1: a boy. But I was just doing anything to be noticed.
Speaker 1: This is back in the day. He was a promoter.
Speaker 1: Wet had no money, so we would go to Rouse
Speaker 1: and buy the bottles. Before we get to the club,
Speaker 1: he would sneaking being through the back and then bring
Speaker 1: him out to us or whatever. Yeah, like we're doing
Speaker 1: a vibe, so the song starts bubbling and then we
Speaker 1: created a database of He used to hand the clipboard
Speaker 1: out at the club and get everybody number and get
Speaker 1: our body shipped or whatever. So from there, Echo was
Speaker 1: like this song is kind of blowing up, like I
Speaker 1: want to take you to a Power one or six
Speaker 1: mixer meeting. I go to Power one oh six. I
Speaker 1: tell my life story for them niggas. I cried a
Speaker 1: little bit at the end of the ship or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they were standing ovation started off and mix show.
Speaker 1: About like six weeks later, she was in Power Rotation.
Speaker 1: I had no deal or nothing, and it was not
Speaker 1: It was like it was random because I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 1: I'm not even from l A. So you're thinking that
Speaker 1: maybe somebody from l A that could be their story
Speaker 1: that I get a record, I'll get into the DJ
Speaker 1: and I go up. So now I'm just blew up.
Speaker 1: Sexy Lady was the hottest ship in the streets. So
Speaker 1: from there, my management now or my business partner now
Speaker 1: that I worked with Billy J who worked with John Monopoly.
Speaker 1: At the time, we was all kids and should he
Speaker 1: called somebody an Epic Records looking for somebody else, and
Speaker 1: I think Dave McPherson and some ship like that well
Speaker 1: Sony or whoever back in the day was the big
Speaker 1: dog and a lady named Katie. Katie Welly picked up
Speaker 1: she was a Keith and after les assistant she wasn't
Speaker 1: she was. She was like famous one if she was
Speaker 1: that famous music when I was that Miss Katie is
Speaker 1: now any yeah, Katie a big dog now. And you
Speaker 1: don't know this, but Katie was instrumental and clearing some
Speaker 1: of our records for it. That came through Sony, so
Speaker 1: shout out yeah business. So Katie Welly heard the record,
Speaker 1: called the record. It was already blowing up, and she
Speaker 1: introduced Billy to Keith and then I did a showcase
Speaker 1: and Keith came and from there they gave me a
Speaker 1: label deal. Like I take it. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: meet Charlie Walk. I just met Keith or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then they gave me the label deal. From there, the
Speaker 1: record was already blowing up. And then Junior, the guy
Speaker 1: that was on the hook, I got the big head
Speaker 1: and was like this, they don't even like your partner's song.
Speaker 1: On the song, it's really about me as the hook.
Speaker 1: I'm like, NIGGI, you ain't write the hook though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you my brother, so you
Speaker 1: know how to label. Did you write the song about
Speaker 1: the sister? Hell no? He said something about he said
Speaker 1: something like his sister was dating t R at the time,
Speaker 1: Jason Josh Ship. We knew his interview was. So from
Speaker 1: there that happens and we get the deal. Junior gets
Speaker 1: the big head. So Junior supposed to be signing my company.
Speaker 1: They went back door and me epic and signed Junior
Speaker 1: to his own deal. So I'm like, we had this
Speaker 1: demo together and all the other ship they wanted the songs.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not getting ahing, no song. I gotta
Speaker 1: give me a quarter million dollars or to walk in
Speaker 1: the studio with this nigga. So they never did it.
Speaker 1: They sent him on a world tour and then they
Speaker 1: end up dropping the nigga or whatever office ship. And
Speaker 1: then from there was one of the moments I put
Speaker 1: out that record on the EP, and this is when
Speaker 1: ray J was just on fire, like he was like
Speaker 1: what like A like, I it's brandy brother. He knocking
Speaker 1: everything down like he was the guy to me. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want ray J on my EP. So
Speaker 1: my manager finds ray ray J who who still works
Speaker 1: with ray J, and they developed a scooty bike and
Speaker 1: all that ship together. That's further down the line or whatever.
Speaker 1: So Ray come to the studio. You're like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: m No, you like the sexy is in the game
Speaker 1: right now. I'm like what Like, he like, you know
Speaker 1: you got the sexy Lady. I got this record I
Speaker 1: want you to hear though it's called Sexy Canna. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm good off that. Like I already had the song
Speaker 1: on the business with the girl cash and singing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm coming with that nixt I know what this is.
Speaker 1: And he's like, Nah, it's gonna be big for us bro.
Speaker 1: So he did his record on my ship. He left somehow.
Speaker 1: I was like no, Like I was on fire. I
Speaker 1: was like, had the number one regular country. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get to that shop. I ain't gonna do that show.
Speaker 1: I want to go with what my plan is. From there,
Speaker 1: he got into Charlie Walk because Ray Jackson did a
Speaker 1: deal with Cotch Records, and if you remember Cotch D
Speaker 1: and Shadow, we're working all the Urban Records and everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: So from there, Charlie Walk calls me to New York,
Speaker 1: summons me to New York. I'm thinking, like we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about my next single and ship like that,
Speaker 1: I go in there. God bless me, Charlie. I'll love you. Man.
Speaker 1: Charlie had to be on some cope and some ship
Speaker 1: like that or whatever, like whole and not. The nigga
Speaker 1: was on top of his piano dancing too sexy can
Speaker 1: I Like in the in the Epic Records office, He's
Speaker 1: dancing on top of the piano. My brother like dancing.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's gonna be the biggest record of your
Speaker 1: fucking career. I'm like what. I'm like the record you
Speaker 1: turned out? Yeah, I'm like, bro, because ray J gave
Speaker 1: it the cops. So now they're thinking like they're gonna
Speaker 1: back door or whatever. So I'm like, bro, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be the sexiest nigga in America from sexy Lady to
Speaker 1: sexy can I am? I right saying fred is my
Speaker 1: album name. I'm too sexy. Now you're like, how am
Speaker 1: I going from sexy lady to sexy can I? And
Speaker 1: then Charlie was like, man, what is gonna take you
Speaker 1: to do this song? It's gonna be the biggest record
Speaker 1: of your career. I said, um, you gotta buy me
Speaker 1: an epic record. Shame He like that's all. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: fucking jury man, you so look that nigga gets off
Speaker 1: the piano and then he goes and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: Jason and Beverly Hills my jeweler, you gotta get me
Speaker 1: the chain. He called Jason right there. Probably came out
Speaker 1: of my budget or whatever. They got me the chain
Speaker 1: on the spot. So now I'm like, man, they put
Speaker 1: me in a corner. They to pay for the chain.
Speaker 1: So from there I go to Miami and from like
Speaker 1: literally the Delano to Wet Willie's, I wrote my verses
Speaker 1: and and finished the song in between writing it from
Speaker 1: there so we can do that. I do my verses
Speaker 1: that Circle House Studio and then the cookies Man cookies
Speaker 1: or you know they got mango trees in the back baby.
Speaker 1: So at that point, and this is a crazy time
Speaker 1: when I did the record, like this is like my sex.
Speaker 1: Like I was introduced to ecstasy from like r Gotti
Speaker 1: and jar Rule when they had the Murder Mansion with
Speaker 1: another just hit up last Left Turn. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: in to do so look, but I did my verses
Speaker 1: for that. I met Pleasure p for the first time
Speaker 1: or whatever Circle House Studio, and Pleasure was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you want one of these? He gave ship, he gave
Speaker 1: me and whatever. So I oh, and I did my
Speaker 1: verses but for the song, and I remember Pitt Bull
Speaker 1: was there and I'm like, bro, you want to ecstasy
Speaker 1: because I'm so geeked up, but he like, no, Poppy,
Speaker 1: I'm from my MDI if I'm gonna get to it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to it. I'm not gonna just reminded
Speaker 1: me of my scarface dancing and the club. So you
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna play with it. So I get my
Speaker 1: VS and I never forget. We went from their circle house.
Speaker 1: We've been back to l A. So not a record done.
Speaker 1: We're here in l A. And uh, they like, Ray
Speaker 1: wants to finish the song with you. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I bet so this like in between him giving me
Speaker 1: the song or whatever. Now he did his deal with Vivid.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's through the roof
Speaker 1: and the now now is a thing. So so this's
Speaker 1: all of the same time. Yeah, that's all in the
Speaker 1: same So before he had the song kind of before
Speaker 1: he the tape came became a thing when he did
Speaker 1: his deal and got his bag from it. So now
Speaker 1: you know, we had um encore. You know he's pulling
Speaker 1: up Lamborghini right, you know, he in his bag or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I never forget it. We get in there and
Speaker 1: then um, he's like, yo, my brother, Um, I'm with
Speaker 1: cash or the girl that's saying the hook on the bundess.
Speaker 1: She was like my best friend at the time or whatever.
Speaker 1: So he like, man, you know, I don't need no disrespect,
Speaker 1: but you mind if I like, I gotta get into
Speaker 1: my energy. You mind if I play these I don't
Speaker 1: want to distract your girl. And you just threw out
Speaker 1: a bunch of vivid DVDs a porn movies on it
Speaker 1: on account and I'm like, bro, this's my best friend.
Speaker 1: You could play that. So we in encore he put
Speaker 1: the pornough on the TV or whatever. Mind you, Tierra,
Speaker 1: but Ree is his girlfriend too, so Thierra Marie is
Speaker 1: with him while we're doing all this at encore. So okay,
Speaker 1: we finished this song and I'll never forget he was
Speaker 1: doing he gotta run at the end where you're like
Speaker 1: getting in, but he was in there like I gotta
Speaker 1: give you my Stevie. I gotta hit my Stevie, and
Speaker 1: like Tierra Marie was clowning him so bad while we
Speaker 1: was doing this ship. It was the most hilarious ship.
Speaker 1: So we finished the song and then next thing I know,
Speaker 1: they like, this ship is about to be the biggest
Speaker 1: song with your career is to hit blah blah. Because
Speaker 1: when I did this song, like Ray would go for
Speaker 1: four bars and not say nothing, then like a minute
Speaker 1: later he would pop back in with four more bars
Speaker 1: and then to be blank again. So I kind of
Speaker 1: like arranged his part and wrote my part and came
Speaker 1: up with other parts for us to do together on
Speaker 1: the song. So that's how that went. From there, we
Speaker 1: go to Miami shooting the video. So we're shooting the
Speaker 1: first shot of the video, me and him in Lamborghini.
Speaker 1: I'm smoking a Blunt's police around us there to secure
Speaker 1: us in Miami for the shoot. I'm smoking this down
Speaker 1: to a roach. I'll throw it out the Lamborghini before
Speaker 1: the first take of the video. The police that's securing
Speaker 1: us come pick the roach up off the ground smelling
Speaker 1: and pulled me out the Lamborghini and locked my ass
Speaker 1: up right there on God, y'all hired them to arrest you,
Speaker 1: pretty much. Nigga took me to jail. Jack, I'm not
Speaker 1: even talking about like it was nothing like about Miami jail.
Speaker 1: I had to belt a couple of homies out. Y'all
Speaker 1: know who y'all are. Um cost me ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: one weekend, you know, but I ain't gonna never believe
Speaker 1: Miami jail for it to be that hot outside. Nigga
Speaker 1: tried to ask one of the home He told me
Speaker 1: when they got out, we got the nigs out of
Speaker 1: like five six in the morning. He said, you know,
Speaker 1: they tried to ask me for my shirt. Bro, I said,
Speaker 1: you did you give me your shirt? I ain't give him.
Speaker 1: They don't tell when they can ask you for next.
Speaker 1: Get your shirt up. Yeah, I know about all that
Speaker 1: in there. So I'm in jail and they're going to
Speaker 1: add to the story. So this is around the time.
Speaker 1: You know, Ray J and Shaquille O'Neil our partners on
Speaker 1: the Sexy Canna song and money Mark or whatever what's
Speaker 1: the make of that beat used to be with Shack
Speaker 1: whatever like man his name mark, and long story short,
Speaker 1: that's when Shaquille was on his like sheriff type ship.
Speaker 1: He just became like a cop. So the ni Shakille
Speaker 1: came and built me out of jail like ten hours
Speaker 1: later or whatever. Yeah, in Miami, in Miami. He was
Speaker 1: a sheriff in Miami exactly. So he came and got
Speaker 1: me out of jail. I think I spent like and
Speaker 1: I was in jail. I get there as nighttime. We
Speaker 1: shoot the end of the video. You wouldn't even know whatever,
Speaker 1: Like it never happened. I'll get right back to shooting
Speaker 1: the video. Still shooting the video in jail. There. We
Speaker 1: just gotta keep going. The home gonna be good, be good.
Speaker 1: He just he just down right, don't be good, trust
Speaker 1: me to home. Me. His way around was the exact vibe,
Speaker 1: and he was on. And when I got back ship,
Speaker 1: he was already super geeked up on a on a bean,
Speaker 1: on his ecstasy or whatever, and then gave me an ecstasy.
Speaker 1: I popped that ship shot right back. I'm going to
Speaker 1: watch this video. Ye listen, man, I gotta go. I
Speaker 1: gotta go reway back into those times. I just think
Speaker 1: about all of the clubs, all of the move around
Speaker 1: that I was. I never had none of those ecstasy
Speaker 1: in my system. I mean, the Valentine around ecstasy is amazing.
Speaker 1: Ecstasy was amazing. Ecstasy was not today, I don't pop peels,
Speaker 1: I don't do dress. But in that time, what it was,
Speaker 1: it was the pure it was. It wasn't stepped on that.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. I used to wake up like nigga
Speaker 1: because you know, like ecstasy kind of gave you the bubble. Guys,
Speaker 1: you gotta go to the bathroom. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: used to wake up at my career Nigga and Poppa
Speaker 1: ecstasy Nigga, like upon the wake up take off. Then
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you're the bathroom showers, so
Speaker 1: you fresh for today. I'm being on ecstasy, nigga. Not
Speaker 1: am I was? I was. I was a social you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like where we're going, Oh shooting,
Speaker 1: we get there, pop up, we're gonna be there for
Speaker 1: two or three. I was turned up that that was me.
Speaker 1: You know, I come from the drug dealers, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know my my experience of it in my outlook.
Speaker 1: You've never done ecstasy. I've never done anything. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you should try shrooms like the little chocolate. Yeah, micro doce.
Speaker 1: It's close to it, without the without the hangover, without
Speaker 1: the bullshit that coming next day. You micro doce a
Speaker 1: little bit, you'll be a vibe. You will be a vibe.
Speaker 1: You think you're popping that management ship. Now you think
Speaker 1: you're talking cash. Tell me boy, that ship like power
Speaker 1: and listen he already called me with fifteen ideas already, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I appreciate you know. I mean what y'all
Speaker 1: trying to do? I ain't. Yeah, thanks to see what
Speaker 1: beautiful back in. So we do that, guys, So what happened?
Speaker 1: So we do that with range, finished the video and
Speaker 1: then um ship they put that sexy canal and I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie of that ship. It's the rocket ship rocket.
Speaker 1: I never expected it to be that. Never, because you
Speaker 1: gotta think they had put like styles P and other
Speaker 1: niggas before they put me on the record, and then
Speaker 1: they was like visually, just don't match up styles P,
Speaker 1: Like what's super hard? You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: they win came and got me and um man, that
Speaker 1: ship took off like a rocket. Next thing I know,
Speaker 1: me and Rayge. They like back to back tour buses
Speaker 1: Nigga on the road promoting Sexy Canna, which I've seen
Speaker 1: some of the craziest ship on the road with rage
Speaker 1: shout out to him in his relationship or whatever nine
Speaker 1: and him and Princess of number of respect. But y'all
Speaker 1: gonna get these stories from that era different. It is
Speaker 1: what it is, sorry, right story Listen listen. All roads
Speaker 1: in the music that the the music bit, all roads
Speaker 1: and entertainment somehow all roads somehow nigga all roads like
Speaker 1: Ray Jr. Fucking urban legend, nigga Ray j took Whitney
Speaker 1: Houston a compound with us and there you have it.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this ship ever. Like Whitney, and this
Speaker 1: was my first time meet and Whitney she was a
Speaker 1: gangs still like she was one of the ones, like
Speaker 1: for real, Like were in there, like she's smoking a
Speaker 1: cigarettes chain smoking cigarettes. Vibe. Man, We had compound. We're
Speaker 1: in the back waiting. She like, man, send one of
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's in there, go get us some patrol. They
Speaker 1: came out with the gallon of patron for us. Me
Speaker 1: and Whitney throwing back patrol shots out the gallon together.
Speaker 1: From that night we went in there. She came in
Speaker 1: the club while we performed Sexy Canna. She was standing
Speaker 1: in the club with us as a picture on my
Speaker 1: Instagram and me her ray j from that night they
Speaker 1: go walking in compound like, no cop, let's take the shot.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace. Whitney too, good terms man too, Raglar.
Speaker 1: So you have your one right, you're moving at young bird,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's you know, we're out
Speaker 1: here and making her records. You're getting that side of
Speaker 1: the business. You're getting that side of the paper and
Speaker 1: that money. Um. And then what what was what was
Speaker 1: the moment for you where you were like I gotta
Speaker 1: make a ship. So look I went and like, um,
Speaker 1: I moved to my I was living in a big
Speaker 1: gas creb out here like all Topanga or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of niggas living with me, and
Speaker 1: I looked at my bills. I'm like, damn, I'm like
Speaker 1: spending like fifty hours a month, and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. To live before, I didn't smoke a blunt
Speaker 1: or do anything like the house and nothing. Nothing. I
Speaker 1: ain't got no nothing. It is just me. So um.
Speaker 1: From there, I was just like, man, I'm out my
Speaker 1: paper getting low, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: moved to Miami and well, actually I was presented with
Speaker 1: an opportunity. A guy named Brian McKinney, who played for
Speaker 1: the Minnesota been instrumental in a lot of cool music.
Speaker 1: Ship Man. Yeah, so Brian was like, look, I'm starting
Speaker 1: my label. I believe in you. I know you're writing, producing,
Speaker 1: you do good records or whatever. I want you to
Speaker 1: help me with my label whatever. And I'm gonna move
Speaker 1: you to Miami. And she you ain't gotta worried about nothing.
Speaker 1: I got the studio in my house. And at this
Speaker 1: point Briant was the guy like he blew people tow
Speaker 1: a bag. Niggers don't understand what the lineman's make in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They make the real back bro. He the
Speaker 1: blind side. They made movies about the good bro. He
Speaker 1: was getting the bag. I've never so from there. He
Speaker 1: moved me to Miami, and I'll never forget when I
Speaker 1: get to Miami. Now it's the w Hotel Brickle or whatever.
Speaker 1: But in the back they got the living, the house
Speaker 1: and the residential ship. They could pay my whole rent
Speaker 1: for a year. I think my my my rent was
Speaker 1: like eight thousand dollars. He came in and paid it
Speaker 1: in one wap for twelve months like ship. So I
Speaker 1: ain't had no bills, no more and I moved to
Speaker 1: Miami and I was dropped a hunting on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he take this, and I was just moving around with
Speaker 1: that nigga. Boy. That nigga was a party animal, man,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about He's an animal man. I lived the
Speaker 1: life of all lives with him. Like I remember, we
Speaker 1: came out here for BT Awards, and this nigga must
Speaker 1: have flew every little dirty lady from King of Diamonds
Speaker 1: with him them to even the fat girls came. Every
Speaker 1: little dirty nan. Me and Tank play basketball the King
Speaker 1: of Dinnerstball. Did you get that haircut at the King?
Speaker 1: You never played volleyball? Ye, y'all was with phob y'all
Speaker 1: there with Pho Me. Y'all seeing it like y'all seen.
Speaker 1: And we got there in six Yeah, we spent the
Speaker 1: full take a. Brian flew like thirty women from King
Speaker 1: of Diamonds to l A for BT Awards, and I
Speaker 1: keep we were all staying at the Montreal and like
Speaker 1: twenty hotel rooms black and I ain't know, like it
Speaker 1: was crazy because like I was spending my own money
Speaker 1: on drinks, like you know, I had girls coming through
Speaker 1: and I walked in one of the strippers room. These
Speaker 1: ladies had room service power to the floor. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how y'all buying all this? Like his credit card is down?
Speaker 1: At the incidentals, I said, holy ship, I caught all.
Speaker 1: Scott Ball was balling out of control. So Brian Man
Speaker 1: he came in, really was like an angel for me
Speaker 1: at that time because I'm still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: So from there trying to figure it out, I'm like,
Speaker 1: uh fucking I'm moved to Atlanta. I moved to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and I realized how clicky it was in Atlanta because
Speaker 1: it would be like Polo and them over there a
Speaker 1: con and booing them over here. But everybody had their
Speaker 1: own little ship, so I couldn't really get into the
Speaker 1: mixed team paying over here or whatever and DJ infamous
Speaker 1: like I go and I, um Well. First happened was
Speaker 1: I signed producers and then we did this record by
Speaker 1: this guy. It was kind of like a one hit
Speaker 1: one day. It was like called Snapbacks and Tattoos. Snap Back.
Speaker 1: We did the song. Yeah, that was like one of
Speaker 1: my first producer like joints or whatever. Yeah. I did
Speaker 1: that record shot to Drinking Shot as a coop and
Speaker 1: then from there, um I did put my dea publishing
Speaker 1: deal with my producer with Ludicrous, with Shaka and Jeff.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is because Sean Disturbing, Sean Famoso
Speaker 1: and Tune Day were the little guys under Sean Shock
Speaker 1: and Jeff who now run LVRN or whatever they was
Speaker 1: under them, So like I was able, they were young,
Speaker 1: I was young. We like in the same age range.
Speaker 1: So I got the publishing deal for my producer and
Speaker 1: then from their idea a hook for DJ Infamous called
Speaker 1: Double Cup and I was on the song. And that's
Speaker 1: the first time I ever said hit makers. I was
Speaker 1: on the song as me, Ludicrous, Juicy j and uh
Speaker 1: Young Jeez. So this around the time or whatever they
Speaker 1: like niggas weren't working with me, and like this be
Speaker 1: a hunted, you know what I'm saying. I was like
Speaker 1: I had a bad stigma on me, but I was
Speaker 1: Infamous was looking out for me, and Jeez was on fire.
Speaker 1: So we're shooting a video and ship but Jez didn't
Speaker 1: want to let me in none of his shots or
Speaker 1: whatever because he didn't want to be to be around
Speaker 1: him or nothing like that or whatever. So you know,
Speaker 1: I got lit on the set They're like action, Well,
Speaker 1: I go running. Jess already knew what this did. Ringing shot.
Speaker 1: She was like, man to go chrip crazy. This was like, bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta go. You already did your I did my
Speaker 1: part already. I was just leaking around. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: there from the daytime. Now you know, Jeezy to start
Speaker 1: some week coming later. He's showing up late. But I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wrote the song. It's me on the hood. It's
Speaker 1: my song. I gave it him how you don't want
Speaker 1: to be around me? And I'm on to it's my song.
Speaker 1: From there, that was like the first time I ever
Speaker 1: said hit maker. And I was just like and it
Speaker 1: didn't happen like I'm hit maker, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's why I'd be weird when people be like, well,
Speaker 1: burg nigger, I'm still a burg. I'm still a young girl.
Speaker 1: Unless I do a face off nigger, I'm still a
Speaker 1: young bird. I can call me wherever you won't. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't care. You already got
Speaker 1: check calling me whatever out whatever. So from now, I
Speaker 1: do that that record and then I'm in I'm in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and I had a bunch of demos that I had
Speaker 1: from Miami and like, I'm like, damn, how do I
Speaker 1: do this? And fucking Vincent Herbert Cousin ends up getting
Speaker 1: contact with me. I sent him a record, got to
Speaker 1: Tamar and it got to Vince, and Vince was like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to bring you here to l A to
Speaker 1: work on this Tamarrow album. And they flew me out
Speaker 1: first class. I'm like, oh shoot, I'm back first class
Speaker 1: because you know they can go down to coach. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like when I'm like cut off,
Speaker 1: you know you're back in the humble beginning. Flew me
Speaker 1: first class, put me at the Sophie till for yourself.
Speaker 1: I still be trying to fly coach. He won't let me. Man,
Speaker 1: my ass touched the coach seat. Like listen, I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk I do, because you see where the
Speaker 1: thing is. You're about to put out your single. You
Speaker 1: will care because they don't catch your I won't or
Speaker 1: whatever like this because they won't listen, because they won't
Speaker 1: catch me on the mouth over because no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no no no listen listen. Takes a covert
Speaker 1: he got from Delta and I literally put nick, I
Speaker 1: put the cover on. If you see a white comber
Speaker 1: on the plane, it's probably me, Like I don't I
Speaker 1: don't even know the trick time. So you how I
Speaker 1: do that in first class? I'll do that when he's
Speaker 1: spending his money. You coach, He's like, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: got time for this ship, but I promise you we
Speaker 1: send that rider to the promoter. I'm judging you. I'm
Speaker 1: judging you because I judged the women that they get
Speaker 1: flyouts based off that. Like if you fly, if you
Speaker 1: fly first class when you're booking your own flight, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fly your first class. If you fly coach when
Speaker 1: you book your own fight, you get were But we're
Speaker 1: working either way. I mean, maybe they're working too, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But when we're working, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a part of the you know, it's a
Speaker 1: part of the writer. It is what it is. But
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, even when I fly
Speaker 1: myself first class, right for me, it doesn't really it's
Speaker 1: just me. They don't really not see I have bad
Speaker 1: luck with it, and I don't care about perception. I
Speaker 1: had bad luck with I'm the Valentine. I had bad
Speaker 1: luck as a youngster though, because it's a different type
Speaker 1: of hurt and feeling that you got when you get
Speaker 1: on a plane and like an Angela Simmons and man,
Speaker 1: young bird, you gotta walk back and then you gotta
Speaker 1: walk back like hey, everybody, everybody got I'll say hello.
Speaker 1: I might even stop talking to him for a minute.
Speaker 1: I see y'all on the plane land. Man, Yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: got suck that up for me. I ain't flying coach.
Speaker 1: That's my dog. My dog. Me and Bow had dark
Speaker 1: days or whatever back in the day, just over whatever
Speaker 1: stuff and women and stuff like that. But man, that's
Speaker 1: my dog now. But I'm not gonna coach. I don't
Speaker 1: get the bag has to be well, if the bag
Speaker 1: is that big, then why would I be flying coach? Anyway.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, like if it's a million
Speaker 1: dollars somewhere that it's like, yo, you you have no
Speaker 1: choice but to get on it. I'm out coach me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, masked up or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I asked, ain't uh, I ain't touched no coach eating
Speaker 1: seven years for real, for real, I expect that it's
Speaker 1: never going back, Okay, making no coach so you said
Speaker 1: hit maker in that song. Was the first time you
Speaker 1: said hit maker? Why did it become a thing? On
Speaker 1: how did it become a thing? Uh? Ship, I don't
Speaker 1: know what just happened organically. I wish I could really say,
Speaker 1: like I was like, Yo, I'm I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: hit maker, or that's what I just said. It came
Speaker 1: out here to l A. Was up at the Softel
Speaker 1: working on Tamar Braxton Love and were an albums. So
Speaker 1: like the song that they wanted. When I get to
Speaker 1: the studio, I owed the studio some money in Miami,
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't relinquish the file for me to cut it.
Speaker 1: So like I had to come up with the audible
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying on the spot because the
Speaker 1: first class though, and you wanna pay that motherfucker's studio
Speaker 1: feel I didn't buy that. I'd have been coaching. I
Speaker 1: was buying myself. So we do that. We get out
Speaker 1: there and Tamar you know now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Me and Tamar a super cool. We in a good
Speaker 1: space or whatever. But she was in she was in
Speaker 1: her bag. This when Tamar and Vince had that TV
Speaker 1: show like they were resting pieces of shann He was
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He was go to guys,
Speaker 1: he was in there, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: from there, I'm like, and I ain't got that song,
Speaker 1: but I got another song that I think Crazy played
Speaker 1: it for. It's called the One or whatever ended up
Speaker 1: being her single on that project, and she loved it,
Speaker 1: and um, they went and then did it. They took
Speaker 1: my tag off the song. I'm like, damn, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I created a new tag
Speaker 1: the way I just scream on the song in the
Speaker 1: background and made a partnership so it still stayed on
Speaker 1: the song. And um, that was like I was like, fucking,
Speaker 1: I'm moving back to l A. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Vincent Herbert was supposed to sign me, get
Speaker 1: me a deal and do all types of stuff and
Speaker 1: never panned out. I mean, show loved events. I've just
Speaker 1: seen Vince as Circle House recently, and I went back
Speaker 1: to l A. And I was kind of like the
Speaker 1: start of like, all right, bet I'm gonna take this
Speaker 1: l A ship seriously again. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm hit maker. Now I'm gonna do this, I did
Speaker 1: my first publishing deal. I did my publishing deal who
Speaker 1: I'm still in a publishing deal with with Mike Caring
Speaker 1: at APG and boy and Mike luked up on this ship.
Speaker 1: Mike might be one of the best businessman Again. I
Speaker 1: think Mike signed me for thirteen thousand dollars. So some
Speaker 1: ship like that, MAGA back then this later, I'm still
Speaker 1: signing like Caring on publishing but be good and I
Speaker 1: got a joint bench now and we got and obviously
Speaker 1: right right. So so here's the other part, because we
Speaker 1: always talk about this, right, we want we did this
Speaker 1: show so it would Yes, we want to have a
Speaker 1: good time, we want to crack jokes, We're gonna do
Speaker 1: what we do, but we also want this ship to
Speaker 1: be informative, right, And I think what happens in this
Speaker 1: business is people always look at things as somebody fucked
Speaker 1: me over, and I know he does, and I do.
Speaker 1: I look at things as someone gave you an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Now if you don't want that, unless they put a
Speaker 1: gun in your head and made you sign something, right,
Speaker 1: if you signed it on your own, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and ecstasy like you guys, But you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you can't sign deals on extacy.
Speaker 1: You can ship because everything is good on ecstasy. So
Speaker 1: you yeah, like you said, you look for a later.
Speaker 1: You signed that, you signed that deal. If we can
Speaker 1: find my man a lot of that would be amazing. Guy,
Speaker 1: somebody you know what I mean, right? But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: so you know you're signing that deal lead to these
Speaker 1: other opportunities in life that you may have not got.
Speaker 1: You may have not gotten if you don't sign this
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand dollar days. But that's the business man and
Speaker 1: you being a manager and being rich night right now.
Speaker 1: Concept Like until you make it out and get some money,
Speaker 1: they fucked you. That's all you think in the whole time.
Speaker 1: And if you never make it out, they always exactly
Speaker 1: the eInsight when you make it out your deal or
Speaker 1: whatever you like. Man, well damn if he didn't give
Speaker 1: me that opportunity, I might not have access to do
Speaker 1: the studio and do the things that I did, and
Speaker 1: from there I never forget. Um them's getting to a
Speaker 1: good spot or whatever, because I love your story about
Speaker 1: the love and hip hop people that I did the
Speaker 1: show with on season one. Um about the monis and
Speaker 1: the dog food or whatever. So long story short, Hazel
Speaker 1: E the girl Hazel, which we all knew, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying from just being around. Yeah, of course
Speaker 1: she was. Yeah I believe it. Yeah, shout out the
Speaker 1: Echo and all them. I remember they was moving heavily
Speaker 1: and doing that. So Hazel, we just approached me like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm doing love and hip hop. This ship. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a love and hip hop holly Wood. We're gonna
Speaker 1: put everybody on it, all the people that blah blah.
Speaker 1: So I was like, shut, I'm down. Sure. I had
Speaker 1: nothing to lose, you know what I'm saying. Like I
Speaker 1: was working with Puff at that back deal with Mike Karen.
Speaker 1: I'm at apg on Kawanga every day, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, working making my rounds, doing all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, fuck it, let's do it.
Speaker 1: From there, it came reality and then ship. At the time, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. So the lives.
Speaker 1: I gotta clear this up because I never really said
Speaker 1: all this ship so we do love and hip hop.
Speaker 1: I wasn't fucking Haze a Wee or dating Haze a
Speaker 1: we or nothing like that. Whatever. She was just Haze.
Speaker 1: We like everybody know Hazel from being Hollywood. She was nigga,
Speaker 1: Like we was really get to that. So from there
Speaker 1: we get to the show and now they got like
Speaker 1: the cast meeting or whatever, so not a cast meet,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy ship, these are all people I know.
Speaker 1: The end, I was like, oh, ship, my ex girlfriends here,
Speaker 1: so I don't know, dispect they're probably gonna go bier
Speaker 1: with us. And I mean it's and off air, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say nothing focused So joy Um, who's bow
Speaker 1: baby mama whatever future. She was like one of my
Speaker 1: ex girlfriends from back in the day or whatever. So
Speaker 1: she was on the show like that casting for the
Speaker 1: show or whatever. So I'm like, oh, it's lit. So
Speaker 1: me and her end up rekindling. Well after we see
Speaker 1: each other at the meeting, then we now we were dating,
Speaker 1: were back into the vibe, were back into the mix
Speaker 1: or whatever. So when we first started shooting the show,
Speaker 1: it was me Enjoy. Enjoy was my girlfriend. But as
Speaker 1: you know with reality TV, because my choice on the show,
Speaker 1: on the show, filming and the whole thing. And I
Speaker 1: remember your name used to be thrown around the heaviest
Speaker 1: because they were like, yo, Tankan Zina is gonna do
Speaker 1: the show and this is that in the third this
Speaker 1: season one, like what they quick what they called us first,
Speaker 1: they called us to build the cast. So we were
Speaker 1: the first. We were the first couple called to do
Speaker 1: loving him and we so so we put the playlist together,
Speaker 1: the original playlists, and and me and him got to talking,
Speaker 1: and I got to talking with Atlantic and they were like,
Speaker 1: we get it, but you don't need this right, this
Speaker 1: is a different kind of energy that and I was
Speaker 1: like no, and so like it didn't happen right, And
Speaker 1: so for me, I you know, I was still doing
Speaker 1: still doing tank you know at the time for my wife,
Speaker 1: we were trying to build a platform for her, so
Speaker 1: it's gonna be perfect for her. So in me pulling out,
Speaker 1: you know, they pulled the plug on her, but they
Speaker 1: took everything else that we had already built. But that's
Speaker 1: what that's what TV. And for that ultimately, I've never
Speaker 1: had the conversation either about that because you know, we
Speaker 1: we don't usually go I'm glad you got him because
Speaker 1: because in that situation, I just called it from me,
Speaker 1: I saw the future for him, right because this at
Speaker 1: this point in that year, we're rebuilding, right, And what
Speaker 1: I understand from what we were trying to build right
Speaker 1: where everybody's everybody's path is different. But from what we
Speaker 1: were trying to build, it didn't align. It just didn't
Speaker 1: align to what we know where we were going right.
Speaker 1: And you know, and this is a part of having
Speaker 1: a trusting client, is the fact that a bag is
Speaker 1: in front of him, extra fame is in front of me,
Speaker 1: extra everything right, These is all positive things. And then
Speaker 1: you have me saying, Na Champ and I guarantee, I
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna carry myself on this ship. Listen, I
Speaker 1: know I know how to carry myself right. We may
Speaker 1: know how to care, but we know how this show goes.
Speaker 1: And I've been in l A four. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many years they sent you. Man, they started digging
Speaker 1: and pulling up skeletons out of that l A dirt.
Speaker 1: You never know where that's gonna go. So and Ray
Speaker 1: put me on right. Once I've seen Ray was involved
Speaker 1: in Ray he started calling me or whatever he like it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be ten seasons. We're gonna milte the ship.
Speaker 1: We back, We're gonna Sexy Cannot Part two him. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you know you started thinking like like, so we do
Speaker 1: the show. Me and joy I like boyfriend and girlfriend
Speaker 1: on the show, and like they wanted me to do
Speaker 1: like some some ship that I wasn't really comfortable with,
Speaker 1: Like they wanted us to be kissing and then that.
Speaker 1: But this is my first time being in front of
Speaker 1: the TV show camera, so I don't know what was
Speaker 1: going on or whatever. It's like, in hindsight, I should
Speaker 1: have been telling kiss with the people that they put
Speaker 1: in front of me. Post that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was being stiff on camera. She was being
Speaker 1: stiff on camera too. We both were very reserved about things.
Speaker 1: And I go to Miami to work with Puff on
Speaker 1: this money making Mitch album. So I get down there,
Speaker 1: I'm working with him. We vibing all this other ship
Speaker 1: they sat the way it set up, all the girls
Speaker 1: on the show really didn't fill each other or whatever,
Speaker 1: like this off the strength they create the beasts or whatever.
Speaker 1: So joy I was dating one girl and then Massica
Speaker 1: was like from Chicago. She was like a best friend
Speaker 1: of me. She's like my drinking partner. We hang out,
Speaker 1: we kicking. We never had no sexual relationship. We never
Speaker 1: crossed the line or nothing. You know, how you might
Speaker 1: got a girl that's just like my nigga like you,
Speaker 1: you know, how to have fun and pretty girls like
Speaker 1: being with you, were being around you. So this is
Speaker 1: a good look for me. Ever, so I went to
Speaker 1: Messica's birthday and then I went to puffs Uh to
Speaker 1: do to Miami to Puffs House to do the stuff,
Speaker 1: and me and Joy fell out in the midst of that,
Speaker 1: so we never spoke again. The relationship is over. I
Speaker 1: get back. They picked me up from the airport, you know,
Speaker 1: because they don't they didn't. They don't allow you dry
Speaker 1: your own transportation. They don't how you get your own uber.
Speaker 1: They come pick you up in a fucking mini man
Speaker 1: with a bottle of the Rocket or whatever and just
Speaker 1: start feeding you liquor. So they and they tell me
Speaker 1: my dress code. They're like, yo, berg come in shorts,
Speaker 1: T shirt. So I'm thinking, I'm gonna go play basketball
Speaker 1: with like Soldier Boy and Little Fears and Mariana some ship.
Speaker 1: They pull up the Hazel House, so I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the fun we're doing here. They're like, yeah, they bring
Speaker 1: you to the scene. So now I'm just like oh shift,
Speaker 1: I ain't know what's going on, and I love haze
Speaker 1: and no dispect the haze of our lives more this
Speaker 1: eight years ago. So um from we get in there
Speaker 1: and then um they basically like, look, we're setting it
Speaker 1: up like you had a long night out with Hazel.
Speaker 1: You guys spent the night together. This Then the time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, so, I ain't even I ain't even
Speaker 1: talked to Joy yet. I don't even I ain't even
Speaker 1: spoke to Joy. I just had a girlfriend four days ago.
Speaker 1: I ain't I broke up with my girlfriend. I don't
Speaker 1: know nothing. So now I'm like a O fam, y'all
Speaker 1: gonna try and have me looking crazy like that, like
Speaker 1: I'm dating a girl on the show and y'all drump.
Speaker 1: I don't So, I'm like, fun this show, I ain't
Speaker 1: doing this scene or whatever. So we're sitting outside ship
Speaker 1: and fucking Mona just appears out of nowhere like Cruella
Speaker 1: de Ville, like bag you make Stevie jib oh, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about that Haitian. So she like my Stevie ja
Speaker 1: loving hip hop, Hollywood. This show is going to be
Speaker 1: based around your interactions. This is good. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: funk that y'all trying to have me look like I'm
Speaker 1: two times and my girl on the show, Like I
Speaker 1: don't even spoke to her. They like, look, she like look,
Speaker 1: then we fired Joy, she's not on the show no more.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Like, yes, she's fired, she's no longer
Speaker 1: on the show. And I can't call shortly because we ain't.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you want me to go in there
Speaker 1: and be myself, like just beat me? And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just going there and do it. How are you feel?
Speaker 1: Just do it? So I go in there and they
Speaker 1: got her capped up. You know what I'm saying. She's
Speaker 1: in a robe and lingerie neglige or whatever, and like, granted,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be clear on this because I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna go viral, and you know, she might have something
Speaker 1: to say everybody about this. Whatever I had slept with
Speaker 1: Hazel Pride previously or whatever, it wasn't my girlfriend. I
Speaker 1: already we had already slept together, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: we were actively dating or whatever in our past from
Speaker 1: her being a publicist and whatever, back when I used
Speaker 1: to live at the Archstone or some ship like that
Speaker 1: or whatever like that what it was. So we're getting
Speaker 1: the vibe and she's like putting it on like heavy,
Speaker 1: like last night was amazing, blah blah blah blah. And
Speaker 1: I'm just looking like an asshole because I'm like, you
Speaker 1: ain't my bitch, hell no, like we ain't did this
Speaker 1: when uh? And then Ship I kind of dogged on her,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, and I left the
Speaker 1: scene it like this is amazing, this is great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what this girl crying inside throwing Ship
Speaker 1: inside her career right now? Like now, granted speaking now
Speaker 1: that I know in hindsight, she might have been putting
Speaker 1: on for the camera to you know what everybody looking
Speaker 1: at and out because if you don't, you get off
Speaker 1: the show. And this is what I didn't know. This
Speaker 1: is what I found out later. If you're not in
Speaker 1: the episode, no, so you can shoot three hundred scenes.
Speaker 1: If you won't, if your content not good and you
Speaker 1: don't make that screen, you're gonna get paid. So as
Speaker 1: much as you went to Zara and watch your little
Speaker 1: boys whatever, like shut up, he made me out, he did,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your money back from Zara. Bro. I
Speaker 1: was ar down. I was in zarahead to tour. I
Speaker 1: was first man, I was right not I want to
Speaker 1: always pay for my first glass fight. But he won't
Speaker 1: catch me and coach with nose around h bro. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't give my Tsara money back. So he was important
Speaker 1: back there to like it's all Richard Mills and Big
Speaker 1: Shan take it right. That was important to take only
Speaker 1: makes that color brand right. Everybody don't make that color brother,
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, you gotta coordinate. You gotta coordinator. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a mush so you're right. You know that ship.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing all my tar ship and uh um
Speaker 1: doing that. We're shooting a show or whatever, and it's
Speaker 1: not going the way I would like it to go,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But now, once you're in
Speaker 1: the show and you're in the matrix of the show,
Speaker 1: then you really become that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like I said my condolence. It's
Speaker 1: not not not feel bad, but like I feel how
Speaker 1: every person has ever been on that franchise, whatever feels
Speaker 1: if they don't make it out of the franchise. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because it's like your life is
Speaker 1: encompassed with that ship now, so whatever we do that
Speaker 1: I do love and hip hop. Then like Mona like
Speaker 1: approaches me and it was like, big, would you be
Speaker 1: down to kiss Mexico on TV? I'm like, yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: got me with this whole other story or whatever with
Speaker 1: somebody this two story later bad looking and ship I
Speaker 1: kissed on TV and sh it evolved into something else,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And now me and her
Speaker 1: was the thing on the TV show. So a long
Speaker 1: story shows a bunch of bullshit on TV show and
Speaker 1: uh it ended, and then they tried to like murder me,
Speaker 1: like Mona and them and try to paint me in
Speaker 1: such a bad way. It was just like damn. And
Speaker 1: like I was like, damn, I'm doing a TV show
Speaker 1: because I'm working with puff or whatever. And it missed
Speaker 1: me doing the TV show. Like how you said good
Speaker 1: investments and niggas gave you an opportunity. I was in
Speaker 1: APG and I did a hook with to a fucking
Speaker 1: popping oak beat and I name the song Nicky and
Speaker 1: hit making. I'm like, man, Nicki Minaj is gonna work
Speaker 1: with me. I'm about to work with Nicki Minaj. Watch
Speaker 1: this ship, bro, and then I go see sounds at
Speaker 1: Glenwood Studio randomly. He was working with Esther Dean and
Speaker 1: her her artist back in the day. And then my
Speaker 1: brother Doc was like, man, I've just seen Nicki Minah
Speaker 1: and see in the same studio. I did a song
Speaker 1: like a day before. I'm like, what, go tell her.
Speaker 1: I'm in hill tell him in hell. They brought me
Speaker 1: in the studio to meet Nicki Minas. I pressed play
Speaker 1: on a whole bunch of ships and like literally she
Speaker 1: took me under her wing like this, like and never
Speaker 1: let me seeing it from the outside, looking like what
Speaker 1: the is young bird? Like I'm talking about. She had
Speaker 1: me like this and was just like, my studio is
Speaker 1: your studio. If I'm not here to take over, do
Speaker 1: what it is. So you know, I'm flossing it out
Speaker 1: to the max. I'm like, shout out to people who
Speaker 1: give opportunities because everybody don't because niggas wasn't. But what's
Speaker 1: the crazy I never said this story to um bro.
Speaker 1: Well after I played my songs for Nicki or whatever,
Speaker 1: and she was feeling me and like she was like,
Speaker 1: yeoh was hard. She was like this before, like she
Speaker 1: was She was like, I ain't gonna lie. I've been
Speaker 1: working with you since this and double clicked on her
Speaker 1: laptop and took the als nick and it was giveing
Speaker 1: a business. I was like, oh shit, but it sucked
Speaker 1: me up because I was famous before Nicki Minaj, so
Speaker 1: it like at that point, like you don't even think
Speaker 1: about that, you know what I'm saying. It didn't even
Speaker 1: hit me altogether, Like Damn. I was really young berg
Speaker 1: and had that song before Nicki blew up, so that
Speaker 1: ship was like crazy and I'm like, Damn doing love
Speaker 1: and hip I can say Nicki Minaj like, so they was.
Speaker 1: Nikki was like, oh yeah, you would dropping my name
Speaker 1: like we were doing great work. I probably did like
Speaker 1: five records on the album or something like that, but
Speaker 1: I was there through the whole process to the pink
Speaker 1: print and ship. From there, I leave the show and
Speaker 1: it's dark again. I'm like damn, Like n, I got
Speaker 1: my ship going over. Damn. So I got this big
Speaker 1: gass house and chat's worth like and I kind of
Speaker 1: like psyched myself out like I had a little money,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I ain't had no big
Speaker 1: money like I was. I had like a hunt of
Speaker 1: grand you know what I'm saying, maybe one fifty, but
Speaker 1: motherfucking I was had my dad help me get this crib,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ye're gonna use this crib. It's motivation
Speaker 1: because I gotta pay these motherfucking bills, so I gotta
Speaker 1: work my ass off. I gotta get these placements. And
Speaker 1: I used it in motivation. And at that time were
Speaker 1: in my crib. Man, I had a bunch of bullshit funiture.
Speaker 1: I was living like a nigger, just girls everywhere. Seven
Speaker 1: thousand squaret for the house, just the bedrooms furnished for
Speaker 1: the most part in t bees and couch a couch,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't fully decked down like how I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be. And I've created a makeshift studio in
Speaker 1: my basement and I had my engineer being um with me,
Speaker 1: and um he's now I don't know who the engineering now,
Speaker 1: but that was my guy. And Jeremiah came to my
Speaker 1: crib and he was like bro Let's work. So we
Speaker 1: started working. We and our vibe. But what that we
Speaker 1: do like eight songs. And I had a girl with
Speaker 1: me and he had some company with him too. So
Speaker 1: now I's winding down They're like two thirty, I don't
Speaker 1: like ship. Let's wrap this ship up, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Ready to take it upstairs. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I got one more in me. I'm like, man, come home, bro, Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to do it like bro, trust me,
Speaker 1: I got one more. You win the booth. I put
Speaker 1: the beat up and win the booth and said last.
Speaker 1: I took a l but's in that. I bounced back
Speaker 1: a morning then and then I count. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's hard. I went. I took the ship to Big
Speaker 1: Sean and it became Big Sean bounced back and Big
Speaker 1: Sean was like, man, you know I love this record
Speaker 1: like shout to Metro Booming Um. He co produced on
Speaker 1: the record Shout to Smash David. So he's like, I
Speaker 1: love his record. You know, I don't know what it's
Speaker 1: gonna be, but man, maybe we should just throw it
Speaker 1: out there and just see its people. I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk. That's it. He liked, Hey, bro, do you
Speaker 1: have a tag or anything you want to put on
Speaker 1: the song? I'm after all these people being taking it
Speaker 1: of taking it off. Asked you about at this house?
Speaker 1: He like, you got a tag bro like yeah, I
Speaker 1: went and said, my tag think of that ship. You
Speaker 1: put that ship out of ship took off like a rocket.
Speaker 1: Nigga like seven times platinum now Nigger. His biggest performance
Speaker 1: songs stepped by himself as a solo artist. One Hunter
Speaker 1: that she like number two. She had the super Bowl
Speaker 1: commercials that she had everything. Hell yeah, ship and that
Speaker 1: ship and that was the start of it, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're rolling. Then from there, Jay Grhant, who works for
Speaker 1: r C a super influential. He was like one of
Speaker 1: the n rs that was really like an A and
Speaker 1: R real nigger to us, Like boy, he would run
Speaker 1: out Paramount for us and fucking buys all the cats
Speaker 1: suit you we wanted with the label credit card nigger
Speaker 1: and use that mother all the liquor. And then that's
Speaker 1: how Chris Brown Party happens, and then all this other
Speaker 1: stuff and now I'm running them up and get a
Speaker 1: couple of placements. And Ryan Press has always been like
Speaker 1: a mentor to me, and I'm like, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I went on Breakfast Club at the Big
Speaker 1: Shan Bounce Back and Chris Brown Party, and I had
Speaker 1: a bunch of placement probably had like fifty placements now,
Speaker 1: So I'm popping my ship on Breakfast Club and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: but y'all really don't realize I'm really about to be
Speaker 1: one of the biggest executives in this game. Nigga, nigga,
Speaker 1: motherfucking these labels offering me jobs right now to be
Speaker 1: and like a motherfucker like that, right now, they're about
Speaker 1: to be one of the biggest and rs in this game.
Speaker 1: Watch this ship live from there. Ryan was like, I've
Speaker 1: had a conversation Ronny, like you want to meet Craig
Speaker 1: and Julie Like yeah, yeah, after I've seen you at
Speaker 1: the b and I wars damn there around that time,
Speaker 1: they took me to meet Craig and Julie and I
Speaker 1: went in there and told the speech and which I
Speaker 1: still stand on to this day. There's nobody is going
Speaker 1: to be influential. I'm really cut from that cloth, from
Speaker 1: cut from that IRV Gotti, I'm cut from that motherfucking
Speaker 1: jay Z. I'm cut from that all the big producer
Speaker 1: that works with the artist cloth. You can't tell me nothing,
Speaker 1: but I lived it. He mexicate me a dog. You
Speaker 1: remember seeing me in your office Julie. Right, Remember I
Speaker 1: saw and then they made me the vice president and
Speaker 1: our Atlantic records, and then that's when they started getting
Speaker 1: getting really interested. That's when they started cracking out that.
Speaker 1: I don't that For me, that wasn't the most impressive part, right,
Speaker 1: because I know you can, I know you can make
Speaker 1: actually give me talking about it. But you deserved it.
Speaker 1: You want to get that. My question is like guys
Speaker 1: locked into a zone and going to run and find
Speaker 1: a thing that they are able to milk for a
Speaker 1: very long time, and you found a niche in grabbing
Speaker 1: old records and reproducing them and making them brand new
Speaker 1: smash records. You know what I'm saying. It's a very
Speaker 1: important component to that. This guy worked directly with the
Speaker 1: guy who did it before. Yeah, I love that. What
Speaker 1: so what made you say this is gonna be my
Speaker 1: formula and nobody's gonna beat me? You know what? It
Speaker 1: was a moment for me. I ain't never gonna forget
Speaker 1: this ship. Um, it fucked me up because Nellie had
Speaker 1: hot in here, right and it was going crazy. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this ship crazy like for real, crazy like. And I've
Speaker 1: been a student of the game. I know all the
Speaker 1: producers I know, puff you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: damn nigs think it's really taking this sample and bringing
Speaker 1: it back and doing all this other ship or whatever
Speaker 1: and blah blah. Once I found out that Nellie Hotting
Speaker 1: here was Chuck Berry, Chuck me yeah, shout out to
Speaker 1: the DMV, bro, Bro, I was like, oh no, hell no,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing back because the first time you hear you
Speaker 1: think it's original. You could you could put ten people
Speaker 1: in this room right now and say play Nelly hot
Speaker 1: in here and say what is that song sample from?
Speaker 1: And I guarantee they won't unless they from there. So
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh ship. I started looking at
Speaker 1: like for real, whole little catalog and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: he's just making original beats and just some of the
Speaker 1: beats on original either too, Like he's taking this ship
Speaker 1: like homeboy I came to party. That's a flip. Even
Speaker 1: Nigga with his manager list and then labeled the jam
Speaker 1: sty Hill Boxing showing your rocks Nigger that's an old
Speaker 1: rap record. Wow. Yeah I didn't know that, yes, Bro.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh ship, this nigga has been doing it,
Speaker 1: but he finessed it his way, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the puff way. And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it my way and just do everything that I
Speaker 1: grew up on one or six and park on whatever
Speaker 1: and all the records that I love. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: flip on my my own. How did you know it
Speaker 1: was time? Right? Because because that's a sweet There used
Speaker 1: to be a thing where like a certain amount of
Speaker 1: time used to have to elapse on a record for
Speaker 1: it to be a classic or even a certain amount
Speaker 1: of success. You're not. You're not flipping all platinum records.
Speaker 1: You're flipping just whatever got that essence to it that
Speaker 1: you with with the field to it. That's what I'm humble, humbly.
Speaker 1: I want to say this because I didn't know at first,
Speaker 1: but it was just like, man, like a producer and
Speaker 1: a top tier producer. I was like, man, it's about
Speaker 1: the work, it's about all this, which it really is,
Speaker 1: but they're really paying you for your taste level for
Speaker 1: the taste of music. Expound on that because as a producer,
Speaker 1: and this is this is something that gets very very
Speaker 1: cloudy in this business, the producer. Right, we have beat makers,
Speaker 1: we have producers, we have vocal producers. We have finishers, right,
Speaker 1: we have all these different things that can do it all.
Speaker 1: I mean he wouldn't. He would pretty much. He would
Speaker 1: pretty much say that I ain't helped him with like,
Speaker 1: but you know that is what it is because I
Speaker 1: love hi nigga, man, And you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: these kids is my god kids, my kids his godkids.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm sitting there Washington, nigga say, man,
Speaker 1: ain't ain't get for me by myself records, right, But
Speaker 1: I asked you this because you're you're you're fully immersed
Speaker 1: in it, right, And I know you don't champion yourself
Speaker 1: as like I make pets. You're not that guy. That's
Speaker 1: not who you say you are. Um. I remember, man,
Speaker 1: I was dating a girl years ago and um and
Speaker 1: I kind of moved into the you know, the beat
Speaker 1: making side of like buying the NPC into it. And
Speaker 1: she was like, and I had had a dog about
Speaker 1: my first condo. Man, you know what too big? But
Speaker 1: you know you can hear everything in that motherfucker. And
Speaker 1: I would have the headphones on and she would wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning be like, so, how did that
Speaker 1: like the bink thing thinking go? Last night? The who right,
Speaker 1: But that's all that's all she can hear. Though. It
Speaker 1: was like think right and right but whatever right. But
Speaker 1: I'm asking you that though, how do you as a producer,
Speaker 1: how do you explain it to you know? And how
Speaker 1: do you separate or do you even separately even getting
Speaker 1: that conversation because a lot of young is like I
Speaker 1: produced it. I'm gonna have a conversation for real for
Speaker 1: it because this is a good platform and it's all
Speaker 1: with creatives here talking about it. So look, everybody produces
Speaker 1: in their own ways. It's not really many. It's so
Speaker 1: many ways it could happen. Now I can speak on
Speaker 1: my process in my situation. So every flip that y'all here,
Speaker 1: for the most part is me like yo, yo, Paul,
Speaker 1: replay this or whatever. Yo, I love this record. Let's
Speaker 1: really like this, but instead of it, let's flip it.
Speaker 1: Let's add a pre hook and change and added and
Speaker 1: changed the key on the pre hook or whatever, and
Speaker 1: come back to the ship and do the music for
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. They do the music, send it back
Speaker 1: to me. I love the music because everything he does
Speaker 1: is firing flames. And then from there I'll be like, um,
Speaker 1: ship who drums work on that ship Cardiac. I think
Speaker 1: it's got a hip hop fielder's gotta ball. I think
Speaker 1: it's be Crazy or any other co producers I work with.
Speaker 1: And then from there they get me to beat. I
Speaker 1: write the song with the person I want to write
Speaker 1: the song with. I find the artist to get the
Speaker 1: song too. I pushed the artists to do the song,
Speaker 1: get through the song. Then I take the record of
Speaker 1: Jackson's I want to mix it and that's the end
Speaker 1: of it. Now if it's something else, like I've also
Speaker 1: an amazing mixer is very important. Absolutely, you gotta have that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Ruben. You know what I mean. Ruben's
Speaker 1: somewhere around. Yeah, I mean he's grounding right now. Um,
Speaker 1: but no, but yeah, like, please please finish. That's my bad.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to shoot these guys out because they
Speaker 1: they're not always spoken too. So um, that's one way.
Speaker 1: Another way is I just have creative energy with people.
Speaker 1: They might send me a beat pack or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then I'll go and I'll write the song and I'll
Speaker 1: rearrange your beat or whatever and take this and your
Speaker 1: outro that you had is really the intro and it's
Speaker 1: really the prehood and and just put together a puzzle
Speaker 1: like that. So I think that real producing to me
Speaker 1: is um you finished, you start to finish. You in
Speaker 1: it from the beginning of the concept to whether it's
Speaker 1: a beat that sent to you and you're like, all right, bet,
Speaker 1: well maybe can we change this around? And you get
Speaker 1: with Tank and you give it Ja Valentime, you write
Speaker 1: the hit record and then Tank wants it to be
Speaker 1: here single and not cool. If not, then we give
Speaker 1: it to somebody else and I gotta get them to
Speaker 1: do it. And I mean, should I did it with Tank,
Speaker 1: which I'm mad Atlantic man, a dirty remix man. That
Speaker 1: ship was super fire Man Goli But we did it together.
Speaker 1: We worked on Sammer record together, so we know the vibe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a good understanding and going
Speaker 1: in because I think a lot of people kind of
Speaker 1: get lost when it's like a kid that does the
Speaker 1: beat was like, well, I'm the producer on the song,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, well that's a part of it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because so when you send
Speaker 1: it to finishers, when you listen, when you send the beat,
Speaker 1: that is nothing, and then it becomes something because of
Speaker 1: everything else that's done to it, and even placing for
Speaker 1: that matter, because you go to extra step further. You're
Speaker 1: not just making a song. You're like, I know exactly
Speaker 1: where this song should be. Then you got to sell it.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're doing You're actually managing now, just like
Speaker 1: Salent records to artists is very tough, very tough. There's
Speaker 1: an art to it. Bro The crazy thing is that
Speaker 1: I fight myself daily about this because that everything we
Speaker 1: said is true. But it's just a lot of capture
Speaker 1: this ship and it's a lot of ego ship or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's also instial too. If I dressed like Ghazi every
Speaker 1: day or like Craig calmun every day and they're getting
Speaker 1: wore the same outfit, no jury, no nothing or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't out here in me, then they wouldn't cut,
Speaker 1: wouldn't You wouldn't hear no flak. It would be the
Speaker 1: most thing because people want the look of it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying now. Being a producer is a thing,
Speaker 1: like so the look of it. But like I've run
Speaker 1: into situations where it's like they would be like people
Speaker 1: would be jealous of your own success and the blessing
Speaker 1: that God got on you, and overlook the fact the
Speaker 1: door that you open up for them so you came
Speaker 1: out that change you. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: it's like I've been through that so many times that
Speaker 1: not even on a producer or co producer level, just anybody, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They could be a manage man.
Speaker 1: It could be you know what I'm saying. People you're
Speaker 1: doing like niggas will be. And everybody was so fucked
Speaker 1: up about being in position which they don't tell you
Speaker 1: before you in position that everybody is going to tell
Speaker 1: you or what they have an opinion to skew thought of.
Speaker 1: And if it was me, I would have did this
Speaker 1: and well nigga waiting until it's yeah, especially if a
Speaker 1: nigga feeding you wouldn't get you out like nigga. Like
Speaker 1: let's say, not even me. If I was a guy
Speaker 1: that was a co producer or somebody that just made
Speaker 1: be some program beats all day like in the house
Speaker 1: with my girl seven and it's somebody that's just like
Speaker 1: making hit after hit after hit, and I wouldn't It
Speaker 1: wouldn't be no way you could talk bad about anything
Speaker 1: about that man like hell no, and I'm big on
Speaker 1: I'm not like how it was back in the day, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'll let you know, I ain't do that beat he
Speaker 1: programmed that beat. I did this that after everybody gets
Speaker 1: their same credit, you know what I'm saying. Like, so
Speaker 1: it don't really like it, don't really bind it. But
Speaker 1: it's like you don't come across the issues and started
Speaker 1: like that to winning, like I ain't gonna lie like
Speaker 1: before I came into your podcast, like I got a
Speaker 1: plaque like this big it just came to my career.
Speaker 1: But I'm over a huntre million records old right That
Speaker 1: cs to going from my fucking uh concentration camp man
Speaker 1: for real for nine months to have an over a
Speaker 1: huney million records. So no cap still a little sitting
Speaker 1: at my penthouse right now, I gotta take it. You
Speaker 1: heard the penhouse. You heard it. You heard not the club,
Speaker 1: not the club, but the house. Yeah, what's what's the
Speaker 1: goal right now? Right now? For me? Like it seemed
Speaker 1: like the when I first started on this hit maker journey,
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I want to prove so many
Speaker 1: of us wrong. He's thinking, ship it on me. Yeah
Speaker 1: that you know what's funny. I don't even you know,
Speaker 1: because we've had so many different moments that we've run
Speaker 1: across each other and then ship. We've been in it
Speaker 1: for many moons. There was a moment in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: at the at the Palms Hotel studios. We were all there,
Speaker 1: US three and Ty Dollar Sign actually, and we were
Speaker 1: talking and this was the This was like the first
Speaker 1: time that I had that. Me and you had kind
Speaker 1: of sat down and I was really like, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I really liked this dude. Man. He's a really really
Speaker 1: good dude. And I remember having a conversation with Tank
Speaker 1: after I said, I hope that his revenge don't get
Speaker 1: the best of it. I literally said that to him.
Speaker 1: I was like that nigga is so because you get
Speaker 1: all the extra ship we run into each other and
Speaker 1: you see a nigga and you and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think he kind of liked this, so I think,
Speaker 1: whatever this this may be. But that that session where
Speaker 1: we were sitting in there, I'm like, I really like
Speaker 1: this dude man, and he's super super talented. But in conversation,
Speaker 1: you were vengeful. You were vengeful, and I would and
Speaker 1: I remember I remember talent Tank. I'm like, Bro, I
Speaker 1: hope that I hope the revenge don't get the best
Speaker 1: stuff it, man, because that dude really is talented. Bro,
Speaker 1: I had a chip because you gotta think of all
Speaker 1: the ship that I went through in the past or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. It wasn't because of meals because I
Speaker 1: was putting myself around bad people, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: so I took a lot of ls, not on the
Speaker 1: strength of me personally being a person that was supposed
Speaker 1: to have that ill. But I'm the I'm the famous guy,
Speaker 1: so you you hold that L. So at that point, man,
Speaker 1: I was just like like in my mind, I was thinking, like, man,
Speaker 1: these things they're gonna see. I'm the step on either.
Speaker 1: But now my whole vibe, Bro, this ship is a testimony, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even want to do nothing. It's not
Speaker 1: about holding my own dick and being like I'm the
Speaker 1: nigga and I'm hit maker bolled. I ain't on none
Speaker 1: of that ship. I'm still young berg nigga. I'll still
Speaker 1: meet people every day, get them opportunity nigga. If you
Speaker 1: it don't matter, I don't care if you black, blue, brown, nigga,
Speaker 1: if you talented and you could flex up and you
Speaker 1: could work with me the studio. Every day I'm touching
Speaker 1: somebody else. I'm giving people opportunities. All my co writers
Speaker 1: that I worked with, I'm putting them on my single
Speaker 1: on my album. It's not about me no more. I'm good.
Speaker 1: It's about the inspiring the next person. Maybe I could
Speaker 1: put the ball in somebody else hand that when I
Speaker 1: decided to stop dribbling, that motherfucker that could pull me
Speaker 1: up circle or success type ship, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And on a big scale, anybody that's living that seeing
Speaker 1: my journey man and know that this ship is so
Speaker 1: possible as long as you work hard and keep diving. First, bro, yes, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it's niggas that dissed me and songs that that
Speaker 1: that pay me top dollar for songs now, but not
Speaker 1: even like the dis because like whatever happened, it was
Speaker 1: a relevant punchline in But the way you're gonna stop
Speaker 1: and not get your money and go work and do
Speaker 1: all this other ship because the nigga felt somebody way,
Speaker 1: you have to strip all that ship down like man
Speaker 1: and just be like who's next? Like look at this,
Speaker 1: look at what God bless me with. That's not even
Speaker 1: focused on. Yeah, let's not focus on no bullshit or whatever. Man,
Speaker 1: Let's be a light. Let somebody be inspired by you,
Speaker 1: let somebody feel man. I can take it there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's possible. And and and I say that to
Speaker 1: the circle all the way back. Like the course. Right,
Speaker 1: we all have a story, we all have a gang
Speaker 1: of els, but it was all par for the course.
Speaker 1: And we can do one or two things, right. We
Speaker 1: can repeat the cycle, or we can decide to do
Speaker 1: better and start a different cycle. And that's what me
Speaker 1: and this guy is committed to and loving hearing you
Speaker 1: say that you've committed to that same thing, because that's
Speaker 1: what's gonna make the difference in our culture, not continuing
Speaker 1: to repeat the cycle where we continue to hold each
Speaker 1: other down and always want to stand on top of
Speaker 1: each other. Man. I can stand, man, I can stand
Speaker 1: right next to my brother man and and support his
Speaker 1: shine dance dance when he succeeds, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: shout him out, like, man, go get it. Man, listen,
Speaker 1: if we all came, if we're not fighting to pay
Speaker 1: for dinner, it's a problem. It's a problem. For sure.
Speaker 1: That's how it's gotta be. As they would say, players
Speaker 1: don't keep scoring. Man, I'm I'm and that's the best,
Speaker 1: the best thing you said all day. I swear it's real.
Speaker 1: I'm living in Bro. That's real. And it's a different
Speaker 1: level of maturity, right, it's a different level of maturity
Speaker 1: to say yeah, like okay, and then you got that off.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's bigger than that. Hell yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's like even like now, like I just see the
Speaker 1: plan and the plot being so bigger like bang, like
Speaker 1: you gotta think, Bro. I was went from I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say lying but but speaking, you know, I was
Speaker 1: technically lying but speaking about being executive on the Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club and like seeing my life prior to that, like
Speaker 1: I always looked at the Barry Gordy's and the l
Speaker 1: A Reads and all these different people whatever. But now
Speaker 1: it's like who better to be inside of building than me?
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? I've been the artists.
Speaker 1: I've been through any the worst thing that artists can
Speaker 1: go through, Like I went through being canceled before being canceled,
Speaker 1: Like I went through everything possible and I'm still one
Speaker 1: of the biggest in the game, relevant, making music, turning
Speaker 1: out this ship. Like I had two twenty seven placements
Speaker 1: last year that was the six years six of my run,
Speaker 1: Like two seven place pretty much place in the record
Speaker 1: almost every day damn near Like but no, we all
Speaker 1: we do is go to s we an't got no kids,
Speaker 1: I don't got no other I don't got a job.
Speaker 1: This is my job. This is my life. So you
Speaker 1: believe this is your actual job. Like when you look
Speaker 1: at it, you wake and me like, yoe, this is
Speaker 1: really what I get to do every day. Like I
Speaker 1: don't think that collectively in this business we ever truly
Speaker 1: take those times unless somebody reminds us to say, you
Speaker 1: get to do this every day. This is this is
Speaker 1: the blessing of all blessings. It is on a big
Speaker 1: scale like that ship, like it's it's no way to
Speaker 1: be replaced or whatever. But that kind of that thought
Speaker 1: kind of inspired me something. So I'm working for Atlantic
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's like I'm lost into the sauce
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, well you know because uh, the
Speaker 1: deals I had over the Atlantic, like I really went
Speaker 1: in like man, my six setting, like my people set
Speaker 1: me up. They was everything was Gucci but um, I
Speaker 1: realized that they wasn't trying to make me a boss.
Speaker 1: They was just wanted the records from me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we're cool. And then I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: Like I was watching everybody else trajectory and see how
Speaker 1: people you know what I'm saying, that should go like
Speaker 1: this or whatever like and I was like, damn, well,
Speaker 1: this producer or this songwriter kind of took a dip
Speaker 1: because he only focused on himself. He didn't work with everybody.
Speaker 1: That's why I was like, I'm not singling myself out.
Speaker 1: I'm not only working with three niggas. I don't care
Speaker 1: if I the email or a text or somebody hit
Speaker 1: me on Instagram. They got some five ship nigga. This
Speaker 1: is what we donn We're gonna work with everybody in
Speaker 1: the game. And you know atlantic I would. I was
Speaker 1: able to be on both sides of the fence because like,
Speaker 1: I'm still an artist, I'm still a creative, but I'm
Speaker 1: in these executive meetings and I'm seeing things and we
Speaker 1: kind of part. We came to a to a part
Speaker 1: of the ways which we did a damage like several
Speaker 1: Number one records, hell of millions of records together and
Speaker 1: l A Read I met A speaking of l A
Speaker 1: Read Happy birthday, l A Read I met, I met him,
Speaker 1: and I always looked up to him. Tricky Stewart introduced
Speaker 1: me to him formally or whatever, and he was just
Speaker 1: like so like with me. He was just like, man,
Speaker 1: you got nigga like this is this is what it is.
Speaker 1: And he's like, man, bro, I don't even really got
Speaker 1: it like this or whatever, like, but I want to
Speaker 1: give you a label deal, and I believe in you
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure you get the money.
Speaker 1: And I'm working for Atlantic at this time or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they ain't offered me no label deal. I putting
Speaker 1: putting up hit. So I'd already did number ones for
Speaker 1: niggers and all types of they ain't come to me
Speaker 1: and say no here or a label deal. We think
Speaker 1: So l A offered to me, and I loved l
Speaker 1: A and I'm like, man, this this nig is amazing, man,
Speaker 1: like I want to be around this guy. So I
Speaker 1: go back to Craig and I'm like, um, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: l A offer me would deal. It's like a million
Speaker 1: dollars or something like two million dollars on signing, let
Speaker 1: me go get my money. Like we all no, no
Speaker 1: about no way. We we love you, your family, we
Speaker 1: love you. And I'm like okay. So they're like, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's show you how much we love you. So
Speaker 1: they came back. They gave me a deal. And the deal,
Speaker 1: you know, it stopped me from doing business with l A.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And because I was already
Speaker 1: locked in the Atlantic and the deal was cool, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I took the deal was an
Speaker 1: interesting time or whatever. It was a good, good deal,
Speaker 1: you know, but it wasn't what I was worth. Well,
Speaker 1: this this is what happened. They gave me the deal.
Speaker 1: So now I'm in an A and R meeting, right
Speaker 1: and they like, um, here comes such and such ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody wants to sign this kid.
Speaker 1: He has a bidding war all over Columbia is really
Speaker 1: heavy on him. A Republic or anybody or whatever they got,
Speaker 1: they got their offering. Now blah blah. He wants he
Speaker 1: wants nine million dollars. He's got one song, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a mixtape. But it's the biggest virul ship in
Speaker 1: the world. So you come in, he don't perform, he
Speaker 1: don't do nothing, don't wow me. And the Niggers was
Speaker 1: really sitting there time about giving him nine million dollars
Speaker 1: and then you realize what you'll deal with. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't excuse me, like wait, wait what? And I didn't
Speaker 1: sold millions of records out and been here for four
Speaker 1: years like we what this is like the end of
Speaker 1: my concerts, like three and a half. I did come
Speaker 1: on man, like I did the ones, the big records,
Speaker 1: like y'all went and told me, we're gonna show you
Speaker 1: how much we we believe in you and how much
Speaker 1: we care about you because you're a family, because you've
Speaker 1: been with us. So from now I never forget this
Speaker 1: ship Um. I left the office that day and I
Speaker 1: went back to the hotel and then ship uh. The
Speaker 1: next day that the A and R meeting kept going,
Speaker 1: I ain't show up, so like they all calling me,
Speaker 1: they are like some of mee to office. I go down.
Speaker 1: You know, I was super close with Lora and I
Speaker 1: still love all these people to the day. Because there's
Speaker 1: nothing bad about this story. I'm still very successful. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. So they like, what's the issue.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't feel like y'all believe in me,
Speaker 1: like how you're supposed to whatever. We're breaking down different
Speaker 1: stuff and they were like, well, what do you want?
Speaker 1: I was like, if you really believe in me, y'all
Speaker 1: paying twelve thousand dollars a month for me to be
Speaker 1: in a studio without paying my my my engineer. I
Speaker 1: want my own studio. Do what l A Read did
Speaker 1: for Tricky Stewart and back when they he was on fire,
Speaker 1: or do what y'all did for DJ Drama or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to outline it as believe in me, because
Speaker 1: I know when Tricky put me on game he said,
Speaker 1: well Ship, when l A Laugh or whatever, I kept
Speaker 1: my studio. It's my studio, Okay, take it. So I'm
Speaker 1: like believing me in that type of investing me in
Speaker 1: that type of manner. And it was like, how much
Speaker 1: you think that should have gonna cause? Line when people
Speaker 1: was like four or five more millions. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Allowed to do it in l A to
Speaker 1: do it the right way, the way he would want
Speaker 1: to do it for three million, four million and ship.
Speaker 1: They were like, all right, bad, We're gonna get back
Speaker 1: to you and see how this work or whatever for you,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna make it happen. We believe in you're
Speaker 1: our guy. And they never made it happen. So from there,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn l A read even after I
Speaker 1: dubbed the deal and I couldn't take the million dollars
Speaker 1: from l A. This man somehow turned my million dollars
Speaker 1: into a song deal and still gave me the million
Speaker 1: that I wanted to do business. Yeah, Like, you can't
Speaker 1: come be a partnership here. I'm still gonna give you
Speaker 1: the same amount of money I was gonna get you
Speaker 1: to do that for this. I'm like, that's a real relationship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, Damn this, this, this,
Speaker 1: this ain't what I think it is. So from there,
Speaker 1: they never holler back. And my partner Chris Sean, who
Speaker 1: was amazing, why I do all my records what or whatever.
Speaker 1: We had a group, but we still have a group,
Speaker 1: and um, he was like, man, can you see if
Speaker 1: you could go meet Ghazi or whatever and get us
Speaker 1: a deal with Empire. I'm like yeah, So I reached
Speaker 1: out to Ghazi. We go up there and Ghazi was
Speaker 1: like telling me a bunch of different stories in his
Speaker 1: past and I didn't know that he worked with Atlantic.
Speaker 1: That's tough too, you know what I'm saying. That he
Speaker 1: started all the records and this on the third and
Speaker 1: I'm was like, oh really. So then once he got
Speaker 1: that transparent with me, I got to be even more
Speaker 1: transparent with him about my situation or whatever what was
Speaker 1: going on. And I was just like yo, like because
Speaker 1: they put my back against the wall, like you only understand,
Speaker 1: like they had put basically put a bounty on my head,
Speaker 1: like oh, you ain't happy, pay this number and you
Speaker 1: can leave or or not. And the relationship was already
Speaker 1: so muddy, you know what I'm saying. After I'm like, damn.
Speaker 1: So I told guys what the number was. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: like ship they want, I'm They're saying, I gotta buy
Speaker 1: myself out with this or give them the money back myself.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna give them the money back, my
Speaker 1: dumb ass. But one of my mentors, my O G
Speaker 1: is trying to do on me, said Nigga, you're want
Speaker 1: to music and you don't get no motherfucking money none
Speaker 1: of it. So I said, all right, and guys, he
Speaker 1: was just like, Bro, I believe in you. I thought
Speaker 1: you was coming up here that asked me to do
Speaker 1: a producer album or something like that. I thought we
Speaker 1: was gonna do small business. But I believe in you.
Speaker 1: Here's the compound in San Francisco. That's what I want
Speaker 1: to do. I'm gonna get you a penthouse here in
Speaker 1: San Francisco or whatever. You just come work with us
Speaker 1: or whatever, and please, bro, like if you would allow
Speaker 1: us to work together, I think this would be great
Speaker 1: for us or whatever. He went and paid Atlantic thing
Speaker 1: money back and that's how I left Atlantic Records. Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that name, so that that ship heavy
Speaker 1: on me. So now it's like now the game like,
Speaker 1: oh you ain't got your studio no more. They was
Speaker 1: empowering the studio. They Nigga is trying to like put
Speaker 1: chinks in my armor like Empire. They're not knowing the Empire. Damn.
Speaker 1: They were the biggest company in the game. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but it's indie. It's not what
Speaker 1: I used to be. Whatever. That's like most people don't
Speaker 1: understand market ship, bro. So my back was against the wall,
Speaker 1: like I would be seeing it thig to be screenshot
Speaker 1: and ship like close friendship. It would be producers I
Speaker 1: worked with and songwriters I worked with, like I think
Speaker 1: a Burger fucked up. He funked up. He's gonna fall off.
Speaker 1: After this, we had so much massive success, and then
Speaker 1: from them I got in with guys I ain't never
Speaker 1: gonna lie man. I met Young Blue in the airport.
Speaker 1: Young Blue was like, man, like, let's work together. And
Speaker 1: you know how you're being an airport. I ain't really
Speaker 1: figured out. I ain't know, I ain't taking serious or whatever.
Speaker 1: So we end up meeting again. We went up there
Speaker 1: and we was in San Francisco and we was just working.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I need a hit. And you know,
Speaker 1: my first mind, I collaborated with Chris so much. I'm like, nigga,
Speaker 1: you want a song with Chris Brown is out of here.
Speaker 1: It's out of here, and we're going number one. So
Speaker 1: we're in there. We cut the hook up me him, Blue,
Speaker 1: Ivory Christian, we did it all together. Then from there
Speaker 1: I end up getting Brown on the record, and that
Speaker 1: was my first one out the gate with with him
Speaker 1: Brown and two Chains or whatever, and it's platting the record,
Speaker 1: it's being the fucking ship. It was one of them
Speaker 1: recurring motherfucker's That Ship was tops here for forty seven
Speaker 1: weeks out of the year. Last Yea was my first
Speaker 1: one off the hip there. We came with the Peru
Speaker 1: record after that, and I did think project and I
Speaker 1: think Ship. She got the most added last week at
Speaker 1: Urban radio with our record partner to stay Yea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to my little brother Yong Blue. We're back. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: that's that's That's an amazing story, man, an amazing path
Speaker 1: that you've taken. And the one consistent thing is you
Speaker 1: never stopped making the music, right because this is the
Speaker 1: only industry that any day of the week, any time
Speaker 1: of the year, you can wake up and hit the lottery.
Speaker 1: But you just have to continue to do it. And
Speaker 1: that and what I found in my years in the
Speaker 1: music business is the guys who don't really ever reach
Speaker 1: their potential or the guys who stopped. Yeah, you will
Speaker 1: have your time, You will have your time, you will
Speaker 1: have your season. Even even some of the guys that
Speaker 1: we may not consider to be the most talented, they
Speaker 1: found their way because they just stayed in it. They
Speaker 1: stayed at it. And it's just like yo, you know
Speaker 1: that record such and such as What's her name. Hell no,
Speaker 1: how many times I do that a week probably like
Speaker 1: that's who record. Oh man, that's amazing, bro, And we
Speaker 1: salute it, right, But when guys give up on it,
Speaker 1: that's when it's over. Other than that, it's never over.
Speaker 1: Like this is an ageless business. This business is based
Speaker 1: on Peter Pan you know what I'm saying, Like, you've
Speaker 1: never got to grow up in this motherfucker. Like you
Speaker 1: can make your life whatever you wanted to be in
Speaker 1: this music if you stay true to it and you
Speaker 1: you just stay at it. And for that, bro, I
Speaker 1: I just want to salute you for that because you
Speaker 1: you faced enough right for the average motherfucker to be like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm done with this ship like this is this is
Speaker 1: and to further go into it to know that Nick,
Speaker 1: you actually come from money. You didn't have to do
Speaker 1: this ship. You can hit anything and your bos couldn't.
Speaker 1: Just did really stay business. It's not as cool as this,
Speaker 1: Like let's let's be let's let's keep it. You know,
Speaker 1: this is this is the cool. But the coolest part
Speaker 1: about that ship is that I'm just getting the journey
Speaker 1: is just beginning, right, you know. It's like you know
Speaker 1: what happens though when you when you hit now now
Speaker 1: nothing's off limits, like your access now is unlimited. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I see it's so much clearer now and I can
Speaker 1: do so much more now with the access that I had.
Speaker 1: And if they won't do this, I'll do it myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when you hit a stride. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you're gonna play this next second. You know, you
Speaker 1: know what he does if you see, if you're seeing
Speaker 1: what will be on man Like we got this special
Speaker 1: segment of the show Man. It's called I Ain't saying
Speaker 1: no names. You can't say names Burg I've seen can't
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, So the story can be funny or
Speaker 1: fucked up, are both, but you can't say the actual
Speaker 1: names of the people. You can say shit around it
Speaker 1: that mother trying to figure some out, but you can't
Speaker 1: say their names young Berg, kid make up. You can't
Speaker 1: say it was me and somehow you can't you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I mean, I know you got what
Speaker 1: was Jamie? What was was? What was the last guys?
Speaker 1: Anybody that you don't think? How did what was? The
Speaker 1: boxing started off? Whar this hotel room? Cocaine famous action.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing cocaine. Doing cocaine, I'm not be is
Speaker 1: my religious belief. That's how it starts. We need we
Speaker 1: need something good man, and we know, you know, we
Speaker 1: need a legendary hint maker story man without the names.
Speaker 1: Not the names. I'm trying to think, man, come on
Speaker 1: and tap into your ecstasy and ship man. What y'all
Speaker 1: calling a beat? Beat? And they got it? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: never got to the nicknames. I never Just give me
Speaker 1: the ex. Just give me the ex. Which color you want, bro,
Speaker 1: Just don't confuse me, just give me all right, okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Um.
Speaker 1: I was at a famous person's house and I was
Speaker 1: I was working with a with a bunch of other
Speaker 1: famous people before they were famous. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like everybody's going to come up or whatever we in
Speaker 1: Hollywood blah blah blah. And the famous person who house
Speaker 1: it was I wanted to have a meeting with me.
Speaker 1: So we like I go to the living room or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it's another famous person with him. That's a lady,
Speaker 1: that's um that's giving him a hand job under the
Speaker 1: covers that like he's sitting on the couch or whatever.
Speaker 1: But during the meeting, like she's a famous girl, like beautiful?
Speaker 1: Is she looking at you? Like? Yeah? Meanwhile, she wasn't
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. The famous girlfriend is also in the house
Speaker 1: while this is happening to just floating around in the meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, so he's talking to you though, Like how
Speaker 1: we're talking right now? Boy? Are you getting a hand job?
Speaker 1: Enough contact with me? You are not allowed. You are
Speaker 1: not allowed to look at me while you were getting
Speaker 1: a hand job. But did she look at you know,
Speaker 1: they was in their own thing. I think they were
Speaker 1: on some enhancements. You know, you can't look at me
Speaker 1: because somehow I'm gonna feel like I'm part of the inspiration.
Speaker 1: I don't want it. Yeah, that was wild. Did you
Speaker 1: get a deal out of that? Oh? He didn't get
Speaker 1: that happened? It was whatever. That is the entertainment industry. Listen,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, I have take I'm game,
Speaker 1: Valentine And this has been hit maker on the Ry
Speaker 1: Money podcast, emphasis on make up my way for the couple.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't being money money