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Speaker 1: I'm saying, he can get more Lamborghinis to me. Now

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out today. We're gonna find out today, Hitmaker. Yes,

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Speaker 1: than being here. Man Um I've i've I've watched you

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Speaker 1: you got hit R and B. I got everything. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But these things that they were teaching and the way

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Speaker 1: all right, back, God, you know what I'm saying. So

425
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: he came and got me. I found out nine eleven happened.

426
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 1: I found out a lead passed. I ain't know nothing

427
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: like I got lovely, I got tattooed, Leo back my

428
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: neck with folk Drake all stuff or whatever, shout to tray.

429
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: But um so from there, like my dad would just

430
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: put me on game, like yo, you know you got

431
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: cousins that do music too, Like Kenny Gamble is your

432
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: cousin Cambu. I'm like, who is that? And then they

433
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: started he started putting on game and like all the

434
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: records they rote or whatever. So I'm like, damn, that's

435
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: what's up. And my dad took me back to the city.

436
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: He invested in me, helped me getting the studio whatever,

437
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: get some studio time, and from there I was like

438
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: making dope music and I went and I knew Eve,

439
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: and then Troy Carter became my manager. Troy and Jay Irban,

440
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 1: they had a company called Irvan Wonder Back and then

441
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: Eve got the TV show to do on U p N.

442
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: So at that point, Troy was like, I'm moving to

443
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: l A. If you want to come to l A,

444
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: I think this is where you could break and I

445
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: can help you, give you some opportunity whatever. So I'm

446
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: the l A. Troy pay for my condo or whatever.

447
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: I moved to l A and then I was out

448
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: here and I was working with Troy, and then the

449
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: first project they got me was Eve. I wrote the

450
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: title track, the hook to the title track on Eve's

451
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: album Evolution, and I was like, damn, Like I don't

452
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: even know what ghostwriting was or writing whatever, but I

453
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: was just doing anything to get a couple of dollars,

454
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: to do anything to be in a mix. From there,

455
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: we did barbershop soundtrack that Eve was on, and then um,

456
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: I didn't mean a lot of people, and I met

457
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: this girl named Morgan Smith that Eve was the executive

458
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: producer of the project in Troy and Jay had signed

459
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,479
Speaker 1: her to Interscope and she was a young woman, pretty

460
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: rapper beautiful girl, and I wrote a whole album and

461
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: so like the projects, Yeah, I wrote the whole album

462
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: top to bottom down, executive produced what it produced or whatever.

463
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was pretty much hurt.

464
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: So that was my first way to get into the game.

465
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: I never forget this ship. Um, this nigga Troy my

466
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: brother now too. I'm I'm gonna say that much of

467
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: my life story you might as well. So the nigga

468
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: Troy had had me wearing like his diamond chain. It's

469
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: back when diamond chains first popped off with the dogs

470
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: tag or whatever. I was wearing the ship and fucking

471
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: uh the nigga were in there. We're working on the album.

472
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: I remember we're doing this ship and uh, I'm like, well, ship,

473
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: what's up? Like you know, like I wrote the album,

474
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: like get paid? Like what's up? Y'all got some bread

475
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: for me? He liked, think, Uh that chain I showed

476
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: payment for the album. I'm like, what's But he was

477
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: my manager and my dog and I love juryus so

478
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: much as y'all still to see that. I was like, yeah,

479
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: you know what, all right, I'm gonna take the chain.

480
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride it out. And this is the funniest

481
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: part of the story. So we go in the House

482
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: of Blues still alive and it's still running and they

483
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: were managing Jada kiss at the term too, So I

484
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: went in there. I got drunk with Jada kiss On Hennessey.

485
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm loaded or whatever, me and Troy and so you know,

486
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: you get loaded. So now I'm mad about not having

487
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: no money, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, me,

488
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: y'all know Troy a little to me. And Troy got

489
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: into a fistfight altercation in front of the had a

490
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: lightweight now in front of the House of Blues, like

491
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: you know where the London is, right on that little

492
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: broad are you talking about? So we fought and he

493
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: took the chain and the chain popped or whatever, and

494
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: he took the chain. So now I'm like, damn with

495
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: the chain that You're like, yeah, I'm gonna get it

496
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: to you whatever, blah blah, and uh, he end up

497
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: getting the chain away. I ain't gonna get in details

498
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: about that, you know what I'm saying, because that's my

499
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: dog or whatever. But he gave the chain away and

500
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: I was just like damn, Like I just felt so betrayed,

501
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: Like damn, I wrote this ship. Subsequently, the girl end

502
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: up getting dropped, her mom was a movie and all

503
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: the other stuff happened. So now I was just back

504
00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: at square one with Troy and Sam team. So I like,

505
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: you still ain't really grown at all. So from there,

506
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm on hard times, you know what I'm saying.

507
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: I think Troy and Jake, I remember that's when they

508
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: became like the remember Vincent Herbert. They did a deal

509
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: with Vincent Herbert. They had like this fucking office on

510
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: Sun or whatever. Yeah, blah blah, and it was yeah, yeah,

511
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: Matthew knows it wasn't. Shout out to Matthew knows too.

512
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, shout out to Matthew. I like how

513
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: you think too, man. So that happens, and then I

514
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: think the timeline from there is that me, Troy and

515
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Jay we end up parting ways. Was you know what

516
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Behind that or whatever, they just got too

517
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: busy for me, you know what I'm saying. Like, so

518
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: I was out here and I end up moving in

519
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: my weed man, you know what I'm saying. And my

520
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: weed man was a club promoter at a club called privilege.

521
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: And this is back in the era of t K.

522
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Y'all remember in you know, t K worked for Hypnosis.

523
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: Now that the people that's buying all the catalogs or

524
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: whatever from people t K, he's gonna find a way

525
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: shout out to you know what, shout out to Los Angeles,

526
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: because Los Angeles is a place where you can find it.

527
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: TK had a locka My god, that's when l A

528
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: was really yes yea Monday. So I was doing that.

529
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: My my weed man was a promoter at the club.

530
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: So he ended up introduced me to DJ Echo and

531
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: um Echo was at Power one oh six. And then

532
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: from there, I remember I did this song called Sexy Lady,

533
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: and like we didn't have no engineer or none of

534
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: that ship. So we're not We're not just gonna let

535
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: you just breeze over that record. Though bro thought I

536
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna get into it. He goes into it.

537
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: Take like that's the motherfucker hit record. Come on, don't

538
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: don't play with the record like it's just it's weak. No,

539
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: Look dude Jr. Who sings the hook on Sexy It

540
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: was like my brother his sister was so beautiful. Oh

541
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: my god, man, I loved it so that she was

542
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: one of the battle ships ever. But so that's the

543
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: tope bar. But anyway, um, I remember recording the record

544
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: at my engineers uh, at my my weed man's house,

545
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: and that we had no engineer. So like I would

546
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: press three and leave it from the beginning and go

547
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: run into the booth and then wrap my ship. You

548
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and go back and do it again. Whatever.

549
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: So we flushed the song out and my weed man

550
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: was the promoter, so we kept going to Privilege. We

551
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: kept going to t K Ship and Echo would spend

552
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: my joint. Like I remember going there with a chinchill

553
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: on boy be hot at hell outside in that l

554
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: a boy. But I was just doing anything to be noticed.

555
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: This is back in the day. He was a promoter.

556
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: Wet had no money, so we would go to Rouse

557
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: and buy the bottles. Before we get to the club,

558
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: he would sneaking being through the back and then bring

559
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: him out to us or whatever. Yeah, like we're doing

560
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: a vibe, so the song starts bubbling and then we

561
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: created a database of He used to hand the clipboard

562
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: out at the club and get everybody number and get

563
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: our body shipped or whatever. So from there, Echo was

564
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: like this song is kind of blowing up, like I

565
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: want to take you to a Power one or six

566
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: mixer meeting. I go to Power one oh six. I

567
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: tell my life story for them niggas. I cried a

568
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: little bit at the end of the ship or whatever,

569
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: and they were standing ovation started off and mix show.

570
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: About like six weeks later, she was in Power Rotation.

571
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: I had no deal or nothing, and it was not

572
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: It was like it was random because I'm from Chicago.

573
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even from l A. So you're thinking that

574
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: maybe somebody from l A that could be their story

575
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: that I get a record, I'll get into the DJ

576
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: and I go up. So now I'm just blew up.

577
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: Sexy Lady was the hottest ship in the streets. So

578
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: from there, my management now or my business partner now

579
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: that I worked with Billy J who worked with John Monopoly.

580
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: At the time, we was all kids and should he

581
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: called somebody an Epic Records looking for somebody else, and

582
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I think Dave McPherson and some ship like that well

583
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Sony or whoever back in the day was the big

584
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: dog and a lady named Katie. Katie Welly picked up

585
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: she was a Keith and after les assistant she wasn't

586
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: she was. She was like famous one if she was

587
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: that famous music when I was that Miss Katie is

588
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: now any yeah, Katie a big dog now. And you

589
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: don't know this, but Katie was instrumental and clearing some

590
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: of our records for it. That came through Sony, so

591
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: shout out yeah business. So Katie Welly heard the record,

592
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: called the record. It was already blowing up, and she

593
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: introduced Billy to Keith and then I did a showcase

594
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: and Keith came and from there they gave me a

595
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: label deal. Like I take it. You know, I didn't

596
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: meet Charlie Walk. I just met Keith or whatever, and

597
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: then they gave me the label deal. From there, the

598
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: record was already blowing up. And then Junior, the guy

599
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: that was on the hook, I got the big head

600
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: and was like this, they don't even like your partner's song.

601
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: On the song, it's really about me as the hook.

602
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, NIGGI, you ain't write the hook though, you

603
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you my brother, so you

604
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: know how to label. Did you write the song about

605
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: the sister? Hell no? He said something about he said

606
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: something like his sister was dating t R at the time,

607
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: Jason Josh Ship. We knew his interview was. So from

608
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: there that happens and we get the deal. Junior gets

609
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: the big head. So Junior supposed to be signing my company.

610
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: They went back door and me epic and signed Junior

611
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: to his own deal. So I'm like, we had this

612
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: demo together and all the other ship they wanted the songs.

613
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not getting ahing, no song. I gotta

614
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: give me a quarter million dollars or to walk in

615
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: the studio with this nigga. So they never did it.

616
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: They sent him on a world tour and then they

617
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: end up dropping the nigga or whatever office ship. And

618
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: then from there was one of the moments I put

619
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: out that record on the EP, and this is when

620
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: ray J was just on fire, like he was like

621
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: what like A like, I it's brandy brother. He knocking

622
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: everything down like he was the guy to me. So

623
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want ray J on my EP. So

624
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: my manager finds ray ray J who who still works

625
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: with ray J, and they developed a scooty bike and

626
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: all that ship together. That's further down the line or whatever.

627
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: So Ray come to the studio. You're like, yeah, you know,

628
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: m No, you like the sexy is in the game

629
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: right now. I'm like what Like, he like, you know

630
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: you got the sexy Lady. I got this record I

631
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: want you to hear though it's called Sexy Canna. I'm like,

632
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm good off that. Like I already had the song

633
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: on the business with the girl cash and singing. I'm like,

634
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm coming with that nixt I know what this is.

635
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: And he's like, Nah, it's gonna be big for us bro.

636
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: So he did his record on my ship. He left somehow.

637
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: I was like no, Like I was on fire. I

638
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: was like, had the number one regular country. I'm not

639
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna get to that shop. I ain't gonna do that show.

640
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: I want to go with what my plan is. From there,

641
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: he got into Charlie Walk because Ray Jackson did a

642
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: deal with Cotch Records, and if you remember Cotch D

643
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: and Shadow, we're working all the Urban Records and everybody, everybody.

644
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: So from there, Charlie Walk calls me to New York,

645
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: summons me to New York. I'm thinking, like we're going

646
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: to talk about my next single and ship like that,

647
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I go in there. God bless me, Charlie. I'll love you. Man.

648
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Charlie had to be on some cope and some ship

649
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: like that or whatever, like whole and not. The nigga

650
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: was on top of his piano dancing too sexy can

651
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: I Like in the in the Epic Records office, He's

652
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: dancing on top of the piano. My brother like dancing.

653
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: He's like, it's gonna be the biggest record of your

654
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: fucking career. I'm like what. I'm like the record you

655
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: turned out? Yeah, I'm like, bro, because ray J gave

656
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: it the cops. So now they're thinking like they're gonna

657
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: back door or whatever. So I'm like, bro, I'm gonna

658
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: be the sexiest nigga in America from sexy Lady to

659
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: sexy can I am? I right saying fred is my

660
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: album name. I'm too sexy. Now you're like, how am

661
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: I going from sexy lady to sexy can I? And

662
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: then Charlie was like, man, what is gonna take you

663
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: to do this song? It's gonna be the biggest record

664
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: of your career. I said, um, you gotta buy me

665
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: an epic record. Shame He like that's all. Yeah, this

666
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: fucking jury man, you so look that nigga gets off

667
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: the piano and then he goes and I'm like, yo,

668
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: Jason and Beverly Hills my jeweler, you gotta get me

669
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: the chain. He called Jason right there. Probably came out

670
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: of my budget or whatever. They got me the chain

671
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: on the spot. So now I'm like, man, they put

672
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: me in a corner. They to pay for the chain.

673
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: So from there I go to Miami and from like

674
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: literally the Delano to Wet Willie's, I wrote my verses

675
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: and and finished the song in between writing it from

676
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: there so we can do that. I do my verses

677
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: that Circle House Studio and then the cookies Man cookies

678
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: or you know they got mango trees in the back baby.

679
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: So at that point, and this is a crazy time

680
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: when I did the record, like this is like my sex.

681
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Like I was introduced to ecstasy from like r Gotti

682
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: and jar Rule when they had the Murder Mansion with

683
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: another just hit up last Left Turn. Yeah, I was

684
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: in to do so look, but I did my verses

685
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: for that. I met Pleasure p for the first time

686
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: or whatever Circle House Studio, and Pleasure was like, hey,

687
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: you want one of these? He gave ship, he gave

688
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: me and whatever. So I oh, and I did my

689
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: verses but for the song, and I remember Pitt Bull

690
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: was there and I'm like, bro, you want to ecstasy

691
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: because I'm so geeked up, but he like, no, Poppy,

692
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm from my MDI if I'm gonna get to it,

693
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to it. I'm not gonna just reminded

694
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: me of my scarface dancing and the club. So you

695
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna play with it. So I get my

696
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: VS and I never forget. We went from their circle house.

697
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: We've been back to l A. So not a record done.

698
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: We're here in l A. And uh, they like, Ray

699
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: wants to finish the song with you. So I'm like,

700
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: I bet so this like in between him giving me

701
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: the song or whatever. Now he did his deal with Vivid.

702
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's through the roof

703
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: and the now now is a thing. So so this's

704
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: all of the same time. Yeah, that's all in the

705
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: same So before he had the song kind of before

706
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: he the tape came became a thing when he did

707
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: his deal and got his bag from it. So now

708
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, we had um encore. You know he's pulling

709
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 1: up Lamborghini right, you know, he in his bag or whatever.

710
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: So I never forget it. We get in there and

711
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: then um, he's like, yo, my brother, Um, I'm with

712
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: cash or the girl that's saying the hook on the bundess.

713
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: She was like my best friend at the time or whatever.

714
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: So he like, man, you know, I don't need no disrespect,

715
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: but you mind if I like, I gotta get into

716
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: my energy. You mind if I play these I don't

717
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: want to distract your girl. And you just threw out

718
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of vivid DVDs a porn movies on it

719
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: on account and I'm like, bro, this's my best friend.

720
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: You could play that. So we in encore he put

721
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: the pornough on the TV or whatever. Mind you, Tierra,

722
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: but Ree is his girlfriend too, so Thierra Marie is

723
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: with him while we're doing all this at encore. So okay,

724
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: we finished this song and I'll never forget he was

725
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: doing he gotta run at the end where you're like

726
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: getting in, but he was in there like I gotta

727
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: give you my Stevie. I gotta hit my Stevie, and

728
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: like Tierra Marie was clowning him so bad while we

729
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: was doing this ship. It was the most hilarious ship.

730
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: So we finished the song and then next thing I know,

731
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: they like, this ship is about to be the biggest

732
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: song with your career is to hit blah blah. Because

733
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: when I did this song, like Ray would go for

734
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: four bars and not say nothing, then like a minute

735
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: later he would pop back in with four more bars

736
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: and then to be blank again. So I kind of

737
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: like arranged his part and wrote my part and came

738
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: up with other parts for us to do together on

739
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: the song. So that's how that went. From there, we

740
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: go to Miami shooting the video. So we're shooting the

741
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: first shot of the video, me and him in Lamborghini.

742
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm smoking a Blunt's police around us there to secure

743
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: us in Miami for the shoot. I'm smoking this down

744
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: to a roach. I'll throw it out the Lamborghini before

745
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: the first take of the video. The police that's securing

746
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: us come pick the roach up off the ground smelling

747
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: and pulled me out the Lamborghini and locked my ass

748
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: up right there on God, y'all hired them to arrest you,

749
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: pretty much. Nigga took me to jail. Jack, I'm not

750
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: even talking about like it was nothing like about Miami jail.

751
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: I had to belt a couple of homies out. Y'all

752
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: know who y'all are. Um cost me ten thousand dollars

753
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: one weekend, you know, but I ain't gonna never believe

754
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Miami jail for it to be that hot outside. Nigga

755
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: tried to ask one of the home He told me

756
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: when they got out, we got the nigs out of

757
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: like five six in the morning. He said, you know,

758
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: they tried to ask me for my shirt. Bro, I said,

759
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: you did you give me your shirt? I ain't give him.

760
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: They don't tell when they can ask you for next.

761
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: Get your shirt up. Yeah, I know about all that

762
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: in there. So I'm in jail and they're going to

763
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: add to the story. So this is around the time.

764
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, Ray J and Shaquille O'Neil our partners on

765
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: the Sexy Canna song and money Mark or whatever what's

766
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: the make of that beat used to be with Shack

767
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: whatever like man his name mark, and long story short,

768
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: that's when Shaquille was on his like sheriff type ship.

769
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: He just became like a cop. So the ni Shakille

770
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: came and built me out of jail like ten hours

771
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: later or whatever. Yeah, in Miami, in Miami. He was

772
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: a sheriff in Miami exactly. So he came and got

773
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: me out of jail. I think I spent like and

774
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I was in jail. I get there as nighttime. We

775
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: shoot the end of the video. You wouldn't even know whatever,

776
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: Like it never happened. I'll get right back to shooting

777
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: the video. Still shooting the video in jail. There. We

778
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: just gotta keep going. The home gonna be good, be good.

779
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: He just he just down right, don't be good, trust

780
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: me to home. Me. His way around was the exact vibe,

781
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: and he was on. And when I got back ship,

782
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: he was already super geeked up on a on a bean,

783
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: on his ecstasy or whatever, and then gave me an ecstasy.

784
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I popped that ship shot right back. I'm going to

785
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: watch this video. Ye listen, man, I gotta go. I

786
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: gotta go reway back into those times. I just think

787
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: about all of the clubs, all of the move around

788
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: that I was. I never had none of those ecstasy

789
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: in my system. I mean, the Valentine around ecstasy is amazing.

790
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: Ecstasy was amazing. Ecstasy was not today, I don't pop peels,

791
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't do dress. But in that time, what it was,

792
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: it was the pure it was. It wasn't stepped on that.

793
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. I used to wake up like nigga

794
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: because you know, like ecstasy kind of gave you the bubble. Guys,

795
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: you gotta go to the bathroom. I don't know. I

796
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: used to wake up at my career Nigga and Poppa

797
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: ecstasy Nigga, like upon the wake up take off. Then

798
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you're the bathroom showers, so

799
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: you fresh for today. I'm being on ecstasy, nigga. Not

800
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: am I was? I was. I was a social you

801
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like where we're going, Oh shooting,

802
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: we get there, pop up, we're gonna be there for

803
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: two or three. I was turned up that that was me.

804
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: You know, I come from the drug dealers, you know,

805
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: so you know my my experience of it in my outlook.

806
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: You've never done ecstasy. I've never done anything. Oh man,

807
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: you should try shrooms like the little chocolate. Yeah, micro doce.

808
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: It's close to it, without the without the hangover, without

809
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: the bullshit that coming next day. You micro doce a

810
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: little bit, you'll be a vibe. You will be a vibe.

811
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: You think you're popping that management ship. Now you think

812
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: you're talking cash. Tell me boy, that ship like power

813
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: and listen he already called me with fifteen ideas already, Bro,

814
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I appreciate you know. I mean what y'all

815
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: trying to do? I ain't. Yeah, thanks to see what

816
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: beautiful back in. So we do that, guys, So what happened?

817
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: So we do that with range, finished the video and

818
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: then um ship they put that sexy canal and I

819
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie of that ship. It's the rocket ship rocket.

820
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: I never expected it to be that. Never, because you

821
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: gotta think they had put like styles P and other

822
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: niggas before they put me on the record, and then

823
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: they was like visually, just don't match up styles P,

824
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Like what's super hard? You know what I'm saying. So

825
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: they win came and got me and um man, that

826
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: ship took off like a rocket. Next thing I know,

827
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: me and Rayge. They like back to back tour buses

828
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: Nigga on the road promoting Sexy Canna, which I've seen

829
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: some of the craziest ship on the road with rage

830
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: shout out to him in his relationship or whatever nine

831
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: and him and Princess of number of respect. But y'all

832
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: gonna get these stories from that era different. It is

833
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: what it is, sorry, right story Listen listen. All roads

834
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: in the music that the the music bit, all roads

835
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: and entertainment somehow all roads somehow nigga all roads like

836
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: Ray Jr. Fucking urban legend, nigga Ray j took Whitney

837
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: Houston a compound with us and there you have it.

838
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this ship ever. Like Whitney, and this

839
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: was my first time meet and Whitney she was a

840
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: gangs still like she was one of the ones, like

841
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: for real, Like were in there, like she's smoking a

842
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: cigarettes chain smoking cigarettes. Vibe. Man, We had compound. We're

843
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: in the back waiting. She like, man, send one of

844
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's in there, go get us some patrol. They

845
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: came out with the gallon of patron for us. Me

846
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: and Whitney throwing back patrol shots out the gallon together.

847
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: From that night we went in there. She came in

848
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: the club while we performed Sexy Canna. She was standing

849
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: in the club with us as a picture on my

850
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: Instagram and me her ray j from that night they

851
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 1: go walking in compound like, no cop, let's take the shot.

852
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: Rest in peace. Whitney too, good terms man too, Raglar.

853
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: So you have your one right, you're moving at young bird,

854
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's you know, we're out

855
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: here and making her records. You're getting that side of

856
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the business. You're getting that side of the paper and

857
00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: that money. Um. And then what what was what was

858
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: the moment for you where you were like I gotta

859
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: make a ship. So look I went and like, um,

860
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: I moved to my I was living in a big

861
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: gas creb out here like all Topanga or whatever. And

862
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of niggas living with me, and

863
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: I looked at my bills. I'm like, damn, I'm like

864
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: spending like fifty hours a month, and you know what

865
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. To live before, I didn't smoke a blunt

866
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: or do anything like the house and nothing. Nothing. I

867
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: ain't got no nothing. It is just me. So um.

868
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: From there, I was just like, man, I'm out my

869
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: paper getting low, you know what I'm saying. So I

870
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: moved to Miami and well, actually I was presented with

871
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: an opportunity. A guy named Brian McKinney, who played for

872
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: the Minnesota been instrumental in a lot of cool music.

873
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Ship Man. Yeah, so Brian was like, look, I'm starting

874
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: my label. I believe in you. I know you're writing, producing,

875
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: you do good records or whatever. I want you to

876
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: help me with my label whatever. And I'm gonna move

877
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: you to Miami. And she you ain't gotta worried about nothing.

878
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I got the studio in my house. And at this

879
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: point Briant was the guy like he blew people tow

880
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: a bag. Niggers don't understand what the lineman's make in

881
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: the NFL. They make the real back bro. He the

882
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: blind side. They made movies about the good bro. He

883
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: was getting the bag. I've never so from there. He

884
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: moved me to Miami, and I'll never forget when I

885
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: get to Miami. Now it's the w Hotel Brickle or whatever.

886
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: But in the back they got the living, the house

887
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: and the residential ship. They could pay my whole rent

888
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: for a year. I think my my my rent was

889
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: like eight thousand dollars. He came in and paid it

890
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: in one wap for twelve months like ship. So I

891
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: ain't had no bills, no more and I moved to

892
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: Miami and I was dropped a hunting on it. Yeah,

893
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: he take this, and I was just moving around with

894
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: that nigga. Boy. That nigga was a party animal, man,

895
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about He's an animal man. I lived the

896
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: life of all lives with him. Like I remember, we

897
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: came out here for BT Awards, and this nigga must

898
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: have flew every little dirty lady from King of Diamonds

899
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: with him them to even the fat girls came. Every

900
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: little dirty nan. Me and Tank play basketball the King

901
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: of Dinnerstball. Did you get that haircut at the King?

902
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: You never played volleyball? Ye, y'all was with phob y'all

903
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: there with Pho Me. Y'all seeing it like y'all seen.

904
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: And we got there in six Yeah, we spent the

905
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: full take a. Brian flew like thirty women from King

906
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: of Diamonds to l A for BT Awards, and I

907
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: keep we were all staying at the Montreal and like

908
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: twenty hotel rooms black and I ain't know, like it

909
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: was crazy because like I was spending my own money

910
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: on drinks, like you know, I had girls coming through

911
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: and I walked in one of the strippers room. These

912
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: ladies had room service power to the floor. I'm like,

913
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: how y'all buying all this? Like his credit card is down?

914
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: At the incidentals, I said, holy ship, I caught all.

915
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: Scott Ball was balling out of control. So Brian Man

916
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: he came in, really was like an angel for me

917
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: at that time because I'm still trying to figure it out.

918
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: So from there trying to figure it out, I'm like,

919
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: uh fucking I'm moved to Atlanta. I moved to Atlanta,

920
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: and I realized how clicky it was in Atlanta because

921
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: it would be like Polo and them over there a

922
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: con and booing them over here. But everybody had their

923
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: own little ship, so I couldn't really get into the

924
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: mixed team paying over here or whatever and DJ infamous

925
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: like I go and I, um Well. First happened was

926
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: I signed producers and then we did this record by

927
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: this guy. It was kind of like a one hit

928
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: one day. It was like called Snapbacks and Tattoos. Snap Back.

929
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: We did the song. Yeah, that was like one of

930
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: my first producer like joints or whatever. Yeah. I did

931
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: that record shot to Drinking Shot as a coop and

932
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: then from there, um I did put my dea publishing

933
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: deal with my producer with Ludicrous, with Shaka and Jeff.

934
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is because Sean Disturbing, Sean Famoso

935
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: and Tune Day were the little guys under Sean Shock

936
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: and Jeff who now run LVRN or whatever they was

937
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: under them, So like I was able, they were young,

938
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: I was young. We like in the same age range.

939
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: So I got the publishing deal for my producer and

940
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: then from their idea a hook for DJ Infamous called

941
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: Double Cup and I was on the song. And that's

942
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: the first time I ever said hit makers. I was

943
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: on the song as me, Ludicrous, Juicy j and uh

944
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Young Jeez. So this around the time or whatever they

945
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: like niggas weren't working with me, and like this be

946
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: a hunted, you know what I'm saying. I was like

947
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: I had a bad stigma on me, but I was

948
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: Infamous was looking out for me, and Jeez was on fire.

949
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: So we're shooting a video and ship but Jez didn't

950
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: want to let me in none of his shots or

951
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: whatever because he didn't want to be to be around

952
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: him or nothing like that or whatever. So you know,

953
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: I got lit on the set They're like action, Well,

954
00:47:53,400 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: I go running. Jess already knew what this did. Ringing shot.

955
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: She was like, man to go chrip crazy. This was like, bro,

956
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: you gotta go. You already did your I did my

957
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: part already. I was just leaking around. Yeah, I was

958
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: there from the daytime. Now you know, Jeezy to start

959
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: some week coming later. He's showing up late. But I'm like, damn,

960
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I wrote the song. It's me on the hood. It's

961
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: my song. I gave it him how you don't want

962
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: to be around me? And I'm on to it's my song.

963
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: From there, that was like the first time I ever

964
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: said hit maker. And I was just like and it

965
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: didn't happen like I'm hit maker, Like you know what

966
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's why I'd be weird when people be like, well,

967
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: burg nigger, I'm still a burg. I'm still a young girl.

968
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: Unless I do a face off nigger, I'm still a

969
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: young bird. I can call me wherever you won't. You

970
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't care. You already got

971
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: check calling me whatever out whatever. So from now, I

972
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: do that that record and then I'm in I'm in Atlanta,

973
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: and I had a bunch of demos that I had

974
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: from Miami and like, I'm like, damn, how do I

975
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: do this? And fucking Vincent Herbert Cousin ends up getting

976
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: contact with me. I sent him a record, got to

977
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: Tamar and it got to Vince, and Vince was like, man,

978
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: I want to bring you here to l A to

979
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: work on this Tamarrow album. And they flew me out

980
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: first class. I'm like, oh shoot, I'm back first class

981
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: because you know they can go down to coach. You

982
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like when I'm like cut off,

983
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: you know you're back in the humble beginning. Flew me

984
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: first class, put me at the Sophie till for yourself.

985
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: I still be trying to fly coach. He won't let me. Man,

986
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: my ass touched the coach seat. Like listen, I don't

987
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: give a funk I do, because you see where the

988
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: thing is. You're about to put out your single. You

989
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: will care because they don't catch your I won't or

990
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: whatever like this because they won't listen, because they won't

991
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: catch me on the mouth over because no, no, no, no,

992
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: no no no no no listen listen. Takes a covert

993
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: he got from Delta and I literally put nick, I

994
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: put the cover on. If you see a white comber

995
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: on the plane, it's probably me, Like I don't I

996
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: don't even know the trick time. So you how I

997
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: do that in first class? I'll do that when he's

998
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: spending his money. You coach, He's like, man, I ain't

999
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: got time for this ship, but I promise you we

1000
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: send that rider to the promoter. I'm judging you. I'm

1001
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: judging you because I judged the women that they get

1002
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: flyouts based off that. Like if you fly, if you

1003
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: fly first class when you're booking your own flight, I'm

1004
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna fly your first class. If you fly coach when

1005
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: you book your own fight, you get were But we're

1006
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: working either way. I mean, maybe they're working too, but

1007
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But when we're working, and

1008
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a part of the you know, it's a

1009
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: part of the writer. It is what it is. But

1010
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, even when I fly

1011
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: myself first class, right for me, it doesn't really it's

1012
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: just me. They don't really not see I have bad

1013
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: luck with it, and I don't care about perception. I

1014
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: had bad luck with I'm the Valentine. I had bad

1015
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: luck as a youngster though, because it's a different type

1016
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: of hurt and feeling that you got when you get

1017
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: on a plane and like an Angela Simmons and man,

1018
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: young bird, you gotta walk back and then you gotta

1019
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: walk back like hey, everybody, everybody got I'll say hello.

1020
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: I might even stop talking to him for a minute.

1021
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: I see y'all on the plane land. Man, Yeah, everybody

1022
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: got suck that up for me. I ain't flying coach.

1023
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: That's my dog. My dog. Me and Bow had dark

1024
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: days or whatever back in the day, just over whatever

1025
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: stuff and women and stuff like that. But man, that's

1026
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: my dog now. But I'm not gonna coach. I don't

1027
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: get the bag has to be well, if the bag

1028
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: is that big, then why would I be flying coach? Anyway.

1029
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: I was about to say, like if it's a million

1030
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: dollars somewhere that it's like, yo, you you have no

1031
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: choice but to get on it. I'm out coach me,

1032
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, masked up or whatever. But

1033
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: I asked, ain't uh, I ain't touched no coach eating

1034
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: seven years for real, for real, I expect that it's

1035
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: never going back, Okay, making no coach so you said

1036
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: hit maker in that song. Was the first time you

1037
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: said hit maker? Why did it become a thing? On

1038
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: how did it become a thing? Uh? Ship, I don't

1039
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: know what just happened organically. I wish I could really say,

1040
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: like I was like, Yo, I'm I'm gonna be a

1041
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: hit maker, or that's what I just said. It came

1042
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: out here to l A. Was up at the Softel

1043
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: working on Tamar Braxton Love and were an albums. So

1044
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: like the song that they wanted. When I get to

1045
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: the studio, I owed the studio some money in Miami,

1046
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't relinquish the file for me to cut it.

1047
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: So like I had to come up with the audible

1048
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying on the spot because the

1049
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: first class though, and you wanna pay that motherfucker's studio

1050
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: feel I didn't buy that. I'd have been coaching. I

1051
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: was buying myself. So we do that. We get out

1052
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: there and Tamar you know now, you know what I'm saying.

1053
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: Me and Tamar a super cool. We in a good

1054
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: space or whatever. But she was in she was in

1055
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: her bag. This when Tamar and Vince had that TV

1056
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: show like they were resting pieces of shann He was

1057
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He was go to guys,

1058
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: he was in there, you know what I'm saying. So

1059
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: from there, I'm like, and I ain't got that song,

1060
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: but I got another song that I think Crazy played

1061
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: it for. It's called the One or whatever ended up

1062
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: being her single on that project, and she loved it,

1063
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: and um, they went and then did it. They took

1064
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: my tag off the song. I'm like, damn, Like you

1065
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I created a new tag

1066
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: the way I just scream on the song in the

1067
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: background and made a partnership so it still stayed on

1068
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: the song. And um, that was like I was like, fucking,

1069
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm moving back to l A. Like you know what

1070
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Vincent Herbert was supposed to sign me, get

1071
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: me a deal and do all types of stuff and

1072
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: never panned out. I mean, show loved events. I've just

1073
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: seen Vince as Circle House recently, and I went back

1074
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: to l A. And I was kind of like the

1075
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: start of like, all right, bet I'm gonna take this

1076
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: l A ship seriously again. You know what I'm saying.

1077
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm hit maker. Now I'm gonna do this, I did

1078
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: my first publishing deal. I did my publishing deal who

1079
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm still in a publishing deal with with Mike Caring

1080
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: at APG and boy and Mike luked up on this ship.

1081
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: Mike might be one of the best businessman Again. I

1082
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: think Mike signed me for thirteen thousand dollars. So some

1083
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: ship like that, MAGA back then this later, I'm still

1084
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: signing like Caring on publishing but be good and I

1085
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: got a joint bench now and we got and obviously

1086
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: right right. So so here's the other part, because we

1087
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: always talk about this, right, we want we did this

1088
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: show so it would Yes, we want to have a

1089
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: good time, we want to crack jokes, We're gonna do

1090
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: what we do, but we also want this ship to

1091
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: be informative, right, And I think what happens in this

1092
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: business is people always look at things as somebody fucked

1093
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: me over, and I know he does, and I do.

1094
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: I look at things as someone gave you an opportunity.

1095
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: Now if you don't want that, unless they put a

1096
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: gun in your head and made you sign something, right,

1097
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: if you signed it on your own, you know what

1098
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and ecstasy like you guys, But you know

1099
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you can't sign deals on extacy.

1100
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: You can ship because everything is good on ecstasy. So

1101
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: you yeah, like you said, you look for a later.

1102
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: You signed that, you signed that deal. If we can

1103
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: find my man a lot of that would be amazing. Guy,

1104
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: somebody you know what I mean, right? But yeah, no,

1105
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: so you know you're signing that deal lead to these

1106
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: other opportunities in life that you may have not got.

1107
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: You may have not gotten if you don't sign this

1108
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand dollar days. But that's the business man and

1109
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: you being a manager and being rich night right now.

1110
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: Concept Like until you make it out and get some money,

1111
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: they fucked you. That's all you think in the whole time.

1112
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: And if you never make it out, they always exactly

1113
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: the eInsight when you make it out your deal or

1114
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: whatever you like. Man, well damn if he didn't give

1115
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: me that opportunity, I might not have access to do

1116
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: the studio and do the things that I did, and

1117
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: from there I never forget. Um them's getting to a

1118
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: good spot or whatever, because I love your story about

1119
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: the love and hip hop people that I did the

1120
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: show with on season one. Um about the monis and

1121
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: the dog food or whatever. So long story short, Hazel

1122
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: E the girl Hazel, which we all knew, you know

1123
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying from just being around. Yeah, of course

1124
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: she was. Yeah I believe it. Yeah, shout out the

1125
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: Echo and all them. I remember they was moving heavily

1126
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: and doing that. So Hazel, we just approached me like, man,

1127
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm doing love and hip hop. This ship. We're gonna

1128
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: do a love and hip hop holly Wood. We're gonna

1129
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: put everybody on it, all the people that blah blah.

1130
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: So I was like, shut, I'm down. Sure. I had

1131
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: nothing to lose, you know what I'm saying. Like I

1132
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: was working with Puff at that back deal with Mike Karen.

1133
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm at apg on Kawanga every day, you know what

1134
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, working making my rounds, doing all this other stuff.

1135
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: So I was just like, fuck it, let's do it.

1136
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: From there, it came reality and then ship. At the time, Um,

1137
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. So the lives.

1138
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: I gotta clear this up because I never really said

1139
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: all this ship so we do love and hip hop.

1140
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't fucking Haze a Wee or dating Haze a

1141
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: we or nothing like that. Whatever. She was just Haze.

1142
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: We like everybody know Hazel from being Hollywood. She was nigga,

1143
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: Like we was really get to that. So from there

1144
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: we get to the show and now they got like

1145
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: the cast meeting or whatever, so not a cast meet,

1146
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy ship, these are all people I know.

1147
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: The end, I was like, oh, ship, my ex girlfriends here,

1148
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: so I don't know, dispect they're probably gonna go bier

1149
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: with us. And I mean it's and off air, I'm

1150
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: not gonna say nothing focused So joy Um, who's bow

1151
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: baby mama whatever future. She was like one of my

1152
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: ex girlfriends from back in the day or whatever. So

1153
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: she was on the show like that casting for the

1154
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: show or whatever. So I'm like, oh, it's lit. So

1155
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: me and her end up rekindling. Well after we see

1156
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: each other at the meeting, then we now we were dating,

1157
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: were back into the vibe, were back into the mix

1158
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. So when we first started shooting the show,

1159
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: it was me Enjoy. Enjoy was my girlfriend. But as

1160
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: you know with reality TV, because my choice on the show,

1161
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: on the show, filming and the whole thing. And I

1162
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: remember your name used to be thrown around the heaviest

1163
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: because they were like, yo, Tankan Zina is gonna do

1164
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: the show and this is that in the third this

1165
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: season one, like what they quick what they called us first,

1166
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: they called us to build the cast. So we were

1167
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: the first. We were the first couple called to do

1168
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: loving him and we so so we put the playlist together,

1169
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: the original playlists, and and me and him got to talking,

1170
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: and I got to talking with Atlantic and they were like,

1171
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: we get it, but you don't need this right, this

1172
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: is a different kind of energy that and I was

1173
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: like no, and so like it didn't happen right, And

1174
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: so for me, I you know, I was still doing

1175
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 1: still doing tank you know at the time for my wife,

1176
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: we were trying to build a platform for her, so

1177
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be perfect for her. So in me pulling out,

1178
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, they pulled the plug on her, but they

1179
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: took everything else that we had already built. But that's

1180
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: what that's what TV. And for that ultimately, I've never

1181
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: had the conversation either about that because you know, we

1182
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: we don't usually go I'm glad you got him because

1183
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: because in that situation, I just called it from me,

1184
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: I saw the future for him, right because this at

1185
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: this point in that year, we're rebuilding, right, And what

1186
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: I understand from what we were trying to build right

1187
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: where everybody's everybody's path is different. But from what we

1188
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: were trying to build, it didn't align. It just didn't

1189
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: align to what we know where we were going right.

1190
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: And you know, and this is a part of having

1191
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: a trusting client, is the fact that a bag is

1192
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: in front of him, extra fame is in front of me,

1193
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: extra everything right, These is all positive things. And then

1194
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: you have me saying, Na Champ and I guarantee, I

1195
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna carry myself on this ship. Listen, I

1196
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: know I know how to carry myself right. We may

1197
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: know how to care, but we know how this show goes.

1198
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: And I've been in l A four. I don't know

1199
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: how many years they sent you. Man, they started digging

1200
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: and pulling up skeletons out of that l A dirt.

1201
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: You never know where that's gonna go. So and Ray

1202
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: put me on right. Once I've seen Ray was involved

1203
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: in Ray he started calling me or whatever he like it.

1204
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be ten seasons. We're gonna milte the ship.

1205
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: We back, We're gonna Sexy Cannot Part two him. I'm like, man,

1206
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: you know you started thinking like like, so we do

1207
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: the show. Me and joy I like boyfriend and girlfriend

1208
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: on the show, and like they wanted me to do

1209
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: like some some ship that I wasn't really comfortable with,

1210
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Like they wanted us to be kissing and then that.

1211
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: But this is my first time being in front of

1212
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: the TV show camera, so I don't know what was

1213
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: going on or whatever. It's like, in hindsight, I should

1214
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: have been telling kiss with the people that they put

1215
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: in front of me. Post that, you know what I'm saying.

1216
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: So I was being stiff on camera. She was being

1217
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: stiff on camera too. We both were very reserved about things.

1218
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: And I go to Miami to work with Puff on

1219
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: this money making Mitch album. So I get down there,

1220
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm working with him. We vibing all this other ship

1221
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: they sat the way it set up, all the girls

1222
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: on the show really didn't fill each other or whatever,

1223
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: like this off the strength they create the beasts or whatever.

1224
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: So joy I was dating one girl and then Massica

1225
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: was like from Chicago. She was like a best friend

1226
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: of me. She's like my drinking partner. We hang out,

1227
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: we kicking. We never had no sexual relationship. We never

1228
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: crossed the line or nothing. You know, how you might

1229
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: got a girl that's just like my nigga like you,

1230
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, how to have fun and pretty girls like

1231
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: being with you, were being around you. So this is

1232
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: a good look for me. Ever, so I went to

1233
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: Messica's birthday and then I went to puffs Uh to

1234
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: do to Miami to Puffs House to do the stuff,

1235
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: and me and Joy fell out in the midst of that,

1236
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: so we never spoke again. The relationship is over. I

1237
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: get back. They picked me up from the airport, you know,

1238
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: because they don't they didn't. They don't allow you dry

1239
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: your own transportation. They don't how you get your own uber.

1240
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: They come pick you up in a fucking mini man

1241
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: with a bottle of the Rocket or whatever and just

1242
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: start feeding you liquor. So they and they tell me

1243
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: my dress code. They're like, yo, berg come in shorts,

1244
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: T shirt. So I'm thinking, I'm gonna go play basketball

1245
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: with like Soldier Boy and Little Fears and Mariana some ship.

1246
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: They pull up the Hazel House, so I'm like, what

1247
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: the fun we're doing here. They're like, yeah, they bring

1248
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: you to the scene. So now I'm just like oh shift,

1249
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: I ain't know what's going on, and I love haze

1250
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: and no dispect the haze of our lives more this

1251
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: eight years ago. So um from we get in there

1252
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: and then um they basically like, look, we're setting it

1253
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: up like you had a long night out with Hazel.

1254
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: You guys spent the night together. This Then the time,

1255
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, so, I ain't even I ain't even

1256
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: talked to Joy yet. I don't even I ain't even

1257
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: spoke to Joy. I just had a girlfriend four days ago.

1258
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: I ain't I broke up with my girlfriend. I don't

1259
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: know nothing. So now I'm like a O fam, y'all

1260
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna try and have me looking crazy like that, like

1261
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm dating a girl on the show and y'all drump.

1262
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't So, I'm like, fun this show, I ain't

1263
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: doing this scene or whatever. So we're sitting outside ship

1264
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: and fucking Mona just appears out of nowhere like Cruella

1265
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: de Ville, like bag you make Stevie jib oh, I'm

1266
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: talking about that Haitian. So she like my Stevie ja

1267
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: loving hip hop, Hollywood. This show is going to be

1268
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: based around your interactions. This is good. I'm like, no,

1269
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: funk that y'all trying to have me look like I'm

1270
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: two times and my girl on the show, Like I

1271
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: don't even spoke to her. They like, look, she like look,

1272
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: then we fired Joy, she's not on the show no more.

1273
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Like, yes, she's fired, she's no longer

1274
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 1: on the show. And I can't call shortly because we ain't.

1275
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you want me to go in there

1276
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: and be myself, like just beat me? And they're like, yeah,

1277
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: just going there and do it. How are you feel?

1278
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: Just do it? So I go in there and they

1279
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: got her capped up. You know what I'm saying. She's

1280
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: in a robe and lingerie neglige or whatever, and like, granted,

1281
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be clear on this because I know it's

1282
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna go viral, and you know, she might have something

1283
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: to say everybody about this. Whatever I had slept with

1284
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: Hazel Pride previously or whatever, it wasn't my girlfriend. I

1285
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: already we had already slept together, but it wasn't like

1286
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: we were actively dating or whatever in our past from

1287
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: her being a publicist and whatever, back when I used

1288
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: to live at the Archstone or some ship like that

1289
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: or whatever like that what it was. So we're getting

1290
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: the vibe and she's like putting it on like heavy,

1291
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: like last night was amazing, blah blah blah blah. And

1292
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm just looking like an asshole because I'm like, you

1293
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: ain't my bitch, hell no, like we ain't did this

1294
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: when uh? And then Ship I kind of dogged on her,

1295
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, and I left the

1296
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: scene it like this is amazing, this is great. Yeah,

1297
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what this girl crying inside throwing Ship

1298
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: inside her career right now? Like now, granted speaking now

1299
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: that I know in hindsight, she might have been putting

1300
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: on for the camera to you know what everybody looking

1301
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: at and out because if you don't, you get off

1302
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: the show. And this is what I didn't know. This

1303
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: is what I found out later. If you're not in

1304
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: the episode, no, so you can shoot three hundred scenes.

1305
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: If you won't, if your content not good and you

1306
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: don't make that screen, you're gonna get paid. So as

1307
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: much as you went to Zara and watch your little

1308
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: boys whatever, like shut up, he made me out, he did,

1309
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your money back from Zara. Bro. I

1310
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: was ar down. I was in zarahead to tour. I

1311
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: was first man, I was right not I want to

1312
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: always pay for my first glass fight. But he won't

1313
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: catch me and coach with nose around h bro. They

1314
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't give my Tsara money back. So he was important

1315
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: back there to like it's all Richard Mills and Big

1316
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: Shan take it right. That was important to take only

1317
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: makes that color brand right. Everybody don't make that color brother,

1318
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, you gotta coordinate. You gotta coordinator. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1319
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: you got a mush so you're right. You know that ship.

1320
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: So I'm doing all my tar ship and uh um

1321
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: doing that. We're shooting a show or whatever, and it's

1322
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: not going the way I would like it to go,

1323
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But now, once you're in

1324
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: the show and you're in the matrix of the show,

1325
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: then you really become that, you know what I'm saying.

1326
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like I said my condolence. It's

1327
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: not not not feel bad, but like I feel how

1328
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: every person has ever been on that franchise, whatever feels

1329
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: if they don't make it out of the franchise. You

1330
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because it's like your life is

1331
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: encompassed with that ship now, so whatever we do that

1332
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: I do love and hip hop. Then like Mona like

1333
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: approaches me and it was like, big, would you be

1334
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 1: down to kiss Mexico on TV? I'm like, yeah, y'all

1335
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: got me with this whole other story or whatever with

1336
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: somebody this two story later bad looking and ship I

1337
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: kissed on TV and sh it evolved into something else,

1338
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And now me and her

1339
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: was the thing on the TV show. So a long

1340
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: story shows a bunch of bullshit on TV show and

1341
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: uh it ended, and then they tried to like murder me,

1342
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: like Mona and them and try to paint me in

1343
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: such a bad way. It was just like damn. And

1344
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: like I was like, damn, I'm doing a TV show

1345
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 1: because I'm working with puff or whatever. And it missed

1346
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: me doing the TV show. Like how you said good

1347
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,560
Speaker 1: investments and niggas gave you an opportunity. I was in

1348
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: APG and I did a hook with to a fucking

1349
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: popping oak beat and I name the song Nicky and

1350
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: hit making. I'm like, man, Nicki Minaj is gonna work

1351
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: with me. I'm about to work with Nicki Minaj. Watch

1352
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: this ship, bro, and then I go see sounds at

1353
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: Glenwood Studio randomly. He was working with Esther Dean and

1354
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: her her artist back in the day. And then my

1355
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: brother Doc was like, man, I've just seen Nicki Minah

1356
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: and see in the same studio. I did a song

1357
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: like a day before. I'm like, what, go tell her.

1358
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm in hill tell him in hell. They brought me

1359
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: in the studio to meet Nicki Minas. I pressed play

1360
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: on a whole bunch of ships and like literally she

1361
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: took me under her wing like this, like and never

1362
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: let me seeing it from the outside, looking like what

1363
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: the is young bird? Like I'm talking about. She had

1364
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: me like this and was just like, my studio is

1365
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: your studio. If I'm not here to take over, do

1366
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: what it is. So you know, I'm flossing it out

1367
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: to the max. I'm like, shout out to people who

1368
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: give opportunities because everybody don't because niggas wasn't. But what's

1369
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: the crazy I never said this story to um bro.

1370
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: Well after I played my songs for Nicki or whatever,

1371
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: and she was feeling me and like she was like,

1372
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: yeoh was hard. She was like this before, like she

1373
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: was She was like, I ain't gonna lie. I've been

1374
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: working with you since this and double clicked on her

1375
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: laptop and took the als nick and it was giveing

1376
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: a business. I was like, oh shit, but it sucked

1377
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: me up because I was famous before Nicki Minaj, so

1378
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: it like at that point, like you don't even think

1379
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: about that, you know what I'm saying. It didn't even

1380
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: hit me altogether, Like Damn. I was really young berg

1381
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: and had that song before Nicki blew up, so that

1382
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: ship was like crazy and I'm like, Damn doing love

1383
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: and hip I can say Nicki Minaj like, so they was.

1384
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: Nikki was like, oh yeah, you would dropping my name

1385
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: like we were doing great work. I probably did like

1386
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: five records on the album or something like that, but

1387
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: I was there through the whole process to the pink

1388
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: print and ship. From there, I leave the show and

1389
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: it's dark again. I'm like damn, Like n, I got

1390
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: my ship going over. Damn. So I got this big

1391
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: gass house and chat's worth like and I kind of

1392
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: like psyched myself out like I had a little money,

1393
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I ain't had no big

1394
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: money like I was. I had like a hunt of

1395
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: grand you know what I'm saying, maybe one fifty, but

1396
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: motherfucking I was had my dad help me get this crib,

1397
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ye're gonna use this crib. It's motivation

1398
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: because I gotta pay these motherfucking bills, so I gotta

1399
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: work my ass off. I gotta get these placements. And

1400
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: I used it in motivation. And at that time were

1401
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: in my crib. Man, I had a bunch of bullshit funiture.

1402
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 1: I was living like a nigger, just girls everywhere. Seven

1403
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: thousand squaret for the house, just the bedrooms furnished for

1404
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: the most part in t bees and couch a couch,

1405
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't fully decked down like how I was

1406
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: supposed to be. And I've created a makeshift studio in

1407
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: my basement and I had my engineer being um with me,

1408
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: and um he's now I don't know who the engineering now,

1409
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: but that was my guy. And Jeremiah came to my

1410
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: crib and he was like bro Let's work. So we

1411
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: started working. We and our vibe. But what that we

1412
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: do like eight songs. And I had a girl with

1413
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: me and he had some company with him too. So

1414
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: now I's winding down They're like two thirty, I don't

1415
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: like ship. Let's wrap this ship up, you know what

1416
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Ready to take it upstairs. He's like, no,

1417
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: I got one more in me. I'm like, man, come home, bro, Man,

1418
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to do it like bro, trust me,

1419
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: I got one more. You win the booth. I put

1420
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: the beat up and win the booth and said last.

1421
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: I took a l but's in that. I bounced back

1422
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: a morning then and then I count. I was like, okay,

1423
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: that's hard. I went. I took the ship to Big

1424
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: Sean and it became Big Sean bounced back and Big

1425
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: Sean was like, man, you know I love this record

1426
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 1: like shout to Metro Booming Um. He co produced on

1427
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: the record Shout to Smash David. So he's like, I

1428
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: love his record. You know, I don't know what it's

1429
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna be, but man, maybe we should just throw it

1430
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: out there and just see its people. I don't give

1431
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: a funk. That's it. He liked, Hey, bro, do you

1432
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: have a tag or anything you want to put on

1433
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: the song? I'm after all these people being taking it

1434
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: of taking it off. Asked you about at this house?

1435
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 1: He like, you got a tag bro like yeah, I

1436
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: went and said, my tag think of that ship. You

1437
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: put that ship out of ship took off like a rocket.

1438
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: Nigga like seven times platinum now Nigger. His biggest performance

1439
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: songs stepped by himself as a solo artist. One Hunter

1440
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: that she like number two. She had the super Bowl

1441
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: commercials that she had everything. Hell yeah, ship and that

1442
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: ship and that was the start of it, and I'm like, oh,

1443
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: we're rolling. Then from there, Jay Grhant, who works for

1444
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: r C a super influential. He was like one of

1445
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: the n rs that was really like an A and

1446
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: R real nigger to us, Like boy, he would run

1447
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: out Paramount for us and fucking buys all the cats

1448
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 1: suit you we wanted with the label credit card nigger

1449
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: and use that mother all the liquor. And then that's

1450
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: how Chris Brown Party happens, and then all this other

1451
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: stuff and now I'm running them up and get a

1452
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: couple of placements. And Ryan Press has always been like

1453
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: a mentor to me, and I'm like, man, I ain't

1454
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I went on Breakfast Club at the Big

1455
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: Shan Bounce Back and Chris Brown Party, and I had

1456
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of placement probably had like fifty placements now,

1457
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: So I'm popping my ship on Breakfast Club and I'm like, man,

1458
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: but y'all really don't realize I'm really about to be

1459
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: one of the biggest executives in this game. Nigga, nigga,

1460
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: motherfucking these labels offering me jobs right now to be

1461
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: and like a motherfucker like that, right now, they're about

1462
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: to be one of the biggest and rs in this game.

1463
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: Watch this ship live from there. Ryan was like, I've

1464
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: had a conversation Ronny, like you want to meet Craig

1465
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: and Julie Like yeah, yeah, after I've seen you at

1466
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: the b and I wars damn there around that time,

1467
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: they took me to meet Craig and Julie and I

1468
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: went in there and told the speech and which I

1469
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: still stand on to this day. There's nobody is going

1470
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: to be influential. I'm really cut from that cloth, from

1471
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: cut from that IRV Gotti, I'm cut from that motherfucking

1472
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,440
Speaker 1: jay Z. I'm cut from that all the big producer

1473
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: that works with the artist cloth. You can't tell me nothing,

1474
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: but I lived it. He mexicate me a dog. You

1475
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: remember seeing me in your office Julie. Right, Remember I

1476
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: saw and then they made me the vice president and

1477
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: our Atlantic records, and then that's when they started getting

1478
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: getting really interested. That's when they started cracking out that.

1479
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't that For me, that wasn't the most impressive part, right,

1480
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: because I know you can, I know you can make

1481
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: actually give me talking about it. But you deserved it.

1482
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: You want to get that. My question is like guys

1483
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: locked into a zone and going to run and find

1484
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: a thing that they are able to milk for a

1485
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: very long time, and you found a niche in grabbing

1486
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: old records and reproducing them and making them brand new

1487
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: smash records. You know what I'm saying. It's a very

1488
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: important component to that. This guy worked directly with the

1489
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: guy who did it before. Yeah, I love that. What

1490
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: so what made you say this is gonna be my

1491
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: formula and nobody's gonna beat me? You know what? It

1492
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: was a moment for me. I ain't never gonna forget

1493
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: this ship. Um, it fucked me up because Nellie had

1494
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: hot in here, right and it was going crazy. I'm like, damn,

1495
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: this ship crazy like for real, crazy like. And I've

1496
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: been a student of the game. I know all the

1497
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: producers I know, puff you know what I'm saying, Like,

1498
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: damn nigs think it's really taking this sample and bringing

1499
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: it back and doing all this other ship or whatever

1500
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: and blah blah. Once I found out that Nellie Hotting

1501
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: here was Chuck Berry, Chuck me yeah, shout out to

1502
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: the DMV, bro, Bro, I was like, oh no, hell no,

1503
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm bringing back because the first time you hear you

1504
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: think it's original. You could you could put ten people

1505
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: in this room right now and say play Nelly hot

1506
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: in here and say what is that song sample from?

1507
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: And I guarantee they won't unless they from there. So

1508
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh ship. I started looking at

1509
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: like for real, whole little catalog and I'm like, damn,

1510
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: he's just making original beats and just some of the

1511
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: beats on original either too, Like he's taking this ship

1512
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: like homeboy I came to party. That's a flip. Even

1513
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: Nigga with his manager list and then labeled the jam

1514
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: sty Hill Boxing showing your rocks Nigger that's an old

1515
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: rap record. Wow. Yeah I didn't know that, yes, Bro.

1516
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh ship, this nigga has been doing it,

1517
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: but he finessed it his way, and I'm like, oh,

1518
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: that's the puff way. And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna

1519
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: do it my way and just do everything that I

1520
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: grew up on one or six and park on whatever

1521
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: and all the records that I love. I'm just gonna

1522
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: flip on my my own. How did you know it

1523
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: was time? Right? Because because that's a sweet There used

1524
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: to be a thing where like a certain amount of

1525
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 1: time used to have to elapse on a record for

1526
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: it to be a classic or even a certain amount

1527
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: of success. You're not. You're not flipping all platinum records.

1528
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: You're flipping just whatever got that essence to it that

1529
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: you with with the field to it. That's what I'm humble, humbly.

1530
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: I want to say this because I didn't know at first,

1531
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: but it was just like, man, like a producer and

1532
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: a top tier producer. I was like, man, it's about

1533
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: the work, it's about all this, which it really is,

1534
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: but they're really paying you for your taste level for

1535
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: the taste of music. Expound on that because as a producer,

1536
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: and this is this is something that gets very very

1537
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: cloudy in this business, the producer. Right, we have beat makers,

1538
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: we have producers, we have vocal producers. We have finishers, right,

1539
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: we have all these different things that can do it all.

1540
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean he wouldn't. He would pretty much. He would

1541
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: pretty much say that I ain't helped him with like,

1542
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: but you know that is what it is because I

1543
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: love hi nigga, man, And you know what I mean,

1544
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: these kids is my god kids, my kids his godkids.

1545
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm sitting there Washington, nigga say, man,

1546
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: ain't ain't get for me by myself records, right, But

1547
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: I asked you this because you're you're you're fully immersed

1548
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: in it, right, And I know you don't champion yourself

1549
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: as like I make pets. You're not that guy. That's

1550
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: not who you say you are. Um. I remember, man,

1551
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: I was dating a girl years ago and um and

1552
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: I kind of moved into the you know, the beat

1553
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 1: making side of like buying the NPC into it. And

1554
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: she was like, and I had had a dog about

1555
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: my first condo. Man, you know what too big? But

1556
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: you know you can hear everything in that motherfucker. And

1557
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: I would have the headphones on and she would wake

1558
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: up in the morning be like, so, how did that

1559
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: like the bink thing thinking go? Last night? The who right,

1560
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: But that's all that's all she can hear. Though. It

1561
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: was like think right and right but whatever right. But

1562
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm asking you that though, how do you as a producer,

1563
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: how do you explain it to you know? And how

1564
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: do you separate or do you even separately even getting

1565
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: that conversation because a lot of young is like I

1566
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: produced it. I'm gonna have a conversation for real for

1567
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: it because this is a good platform and it's all

1568
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 1: with creatives here talking about it. So look, everybody produces

1569
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: in their own ways. It's not really many. It's so

1570
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: many ways it could happen. Now I can speak on

1571
01:19:55,439 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: my process in my situation. So every flip that y'all here,

1572
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: for the most part is me like yo, yo, Paul,

1573
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: replay this or whatever. Yo, I love this record. Let's

1574
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: really like this, but instead of it, let's flip it.

1575
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: Let's add a pre hook and change and added and

1576
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: changed the key on the pre hook or whatever, and

1577
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: come back to the ship and do the music for

1578
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. They do the music, send it back

1579
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: to me. I love the music because everything he does

1580
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: is firing flames. And then from there I'll be like, um,

1581
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: ship who drums work on that ship Cardiac. I think

1582
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: it's got a hip hop fielder's gotta ball. I think

1583
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: it's be Crazy or any other co producers I work with.

1584
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: And then from there they get me to beat. I

1585
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: write the song with the person I want to write

1586
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: the song with. I find the artist to get the

1587
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: song too. I pushed the artists to do the song,

1588
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: get through the song. Then I take the record of

1589
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: Jackson's I want to mix it and that's the end

1590
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: of it. Now if it's something else, like I've also

1591
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: an amazing mixer is very important. Absolutely, you gotta have that.

1592
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Shout out to Ruben. You know what I mean. Ruben's

1593
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: somewhere around. Yeah, I mean he's grounding right now. Um,

1594
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: but no, but yeah, like, please please finish. That's my bad.

1595
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: But I wanted to shoot these guys out because they

1596
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: they're not always spoken too. So um, that's one way.

1597
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 1: Another way is I just have creative energy with people.

1598
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: They might send me a beat pack or whatever, and

1599
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: then I'll go and I'll write the song and I'll

1600
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: rearrange your beat or whatever and take this and your

1601
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: outro that you had is really the intro and it's

1602
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: really the prehood and and just put together a puzzle

1603
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 1: like that. So I think that real producing to me

1604
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: is um you finished, you start to finish. You in

1605
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: it from the beginning of the concept to whether it's

1606
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: a beat that sent to you and you're like, all right, bet,

1607
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: well maybe can we change this around? And you get

1608
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: with Tank and you give it Ja Valentime, you write

1609
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: the hit record and then Tank wants it to be

1610
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: here single and not cool. If not, then we give

1611
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: it to somebody else and I gotta get them to

1612
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: do it. And I mean, should I did it with Tank,

1613
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: which I'm mad Atlantic man, a dirty remix man. That

1614
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: ship was super fire Man Goli But we did it together.

1615
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: We worked on Sammer record together, so we know the vibe. Yeah.

1616
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a good understanding and going

1617
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: in because I think a lot of people kind of

1618
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: get lost when it's like a kid that does the

1619
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: beat was like, well, I'm the producer on the song,

1620
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 1: and then you're like, well that's a part of it,

1621
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because so when you send

1622
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: it to finishers, when you listen, when you send the beat,

1623
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: that is nothing, and then it becomes something because of

1624
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: everything else that's done to it, and even placing for

1625
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: that matter, because you go to extra step further. You're

1626
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: not just making a song. You're like, I know exactly

1627
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: where this song should be. Then you got to sell it.

1628
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: You're you're you're doing You're actually managing now, just like

1629
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: Salent records to artists is very tough, very tough. There's

1630
01:22:55,520 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: an art to it. Bro The crazy thing is that

1631
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: I fight myself daily about this because that everything we

1632
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 1: said is true. But it's just a lot of capture

1633
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: this ship and it's a lot of ego ship or whatever.

1634
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: That's also instial too. If I dressed like Ghazi every

1635
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: day or like Craig calmun every day and they're getting

1636
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: wore the same outfit, no jury, no nothing or whatever,

1637
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 1: and I wasn't out here in me, then they wouldn't cut,

1638
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't You wouldn't hear no flak. It would be the

1639
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: most thing because people want the look of it, you

1640
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying now. Being a producer is a thing,

1641
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: like so the look of it. But like I've run

1642
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: into situations where it's like they would be like people

1643
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: would be jealous of your own success and the blessing

1644
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: that God got on you, and overlook the fact the

1645
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: door that you open up for them so you came

1646
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: out that change you. You know what I'm saying, because

1647
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: it's like I've been through that so many times that

1648
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: not even on a producer or co producer level, just anybody, man,

1649
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They could be a manage man.

1650
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: It could be you know what I'm saying. People you're

1651
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: doing like niggas will be. And everybody was so fucked

1652
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: up about being in position which they don't tell you

1653
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: before you in position that everybody is going to tell

1654
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: you or what they have an opinion to skew thought of.

1655
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: And if it was me, I would have did this

1656
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: and well nigga waiting until it's yeah, especially if a

1657
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: nigga feeding you wouldn't get you out like nigga. Like

1658
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: let's say, not even me. If I was a guy

1659
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: that was a co producer or somebody that just made

1660
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: be some program beats all day like in the house

1661
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: with my girl seven and it's somebody that's just like

1662
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: making hit after hit after hit, and I wouldn't It

1663
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be no way you could talk bad about anything

1664
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: about that man like hell no, and I'm big on

1665
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm not like how it was back in the day, Like, bro,

1666
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: I'll let you know, I ain't do that beat he

1667
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: programmed that beat. I did this that after everybody gets

1668
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: their same credit, you know what I'm saying. Like, so

1669
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: it don't really like it, don't really bind it. But

1670
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: it's like you don't come across the issues and started

1671
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: like that to winning, like I ain't gonna lie like

1672
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 1: before I came into your podcast, like I got a

1673
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: plaque like this big it just came to my career.

1674
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: But I'm over a huntre million records old right That

1675
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: cs to going from my fucking uh concentration camp man

1676
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: for real for nine months to have an over a

1677
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: huney million records. So no cap still a little sitting

1678
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: at my penthouse right now, I gotta take it. You

1679
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: heard the penhouse. You heard it. You heard not the club,

1680
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: not the club, but the house. Yeah, what's what's the

1681
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: goal right now? Right now? For me? Like it seemed

1682
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: like the when I first started on this hit maker journey,

1683
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I want to prove so many

1684
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: of us wrong. He's thinking, ship it on me. Yeah

1685
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: that you know what's funny. I don't even you know,

1686
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: because we've had so many different moments that we've run

1687
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 1: across each other and then ship. We've been in it

1688
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 1: for many moons. There was a moment in Las Vegas

1689
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: at the at the Palms Hotel studios. We were all there,

1690
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: US three and Ty Dollar Sign actually, and we were

1691
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: talking and this was the This was like the first

1692
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: time that I had that. Me and you had kind

1693
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: of sat down and I was really like, I was like, man,

1694
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: I really liked this dude. Man. He's a really really

1695
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: good dude. And I remember having a conversation with Tank

1696
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: after I said, I hope that his revenge don't get

1697
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: the best of it. I literally said that to him.

1698
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 1: I was like that nigga is so because you get

1699
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: all the extra ship we run into each other and

1700
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: you see a nigga and you and you're like, oh,

1701
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: I think he kind of liked this, so I think,

1702
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: whatever this this may be. But that that session where

1703
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: we were sitting in there, I'm like, I really like

1704
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: this dude man, and he's super super talented. But in conversation,

1705
01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 1: you were vengeful. You were vengeful, and I would and

1706
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: I remember I remember talent Tank. I'm like, Bro, I

1707
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: hope that I hope the revenge don't get the best

1708
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 1: stuff it, man, because that dude really is talented. Bro,

1709
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: I had a chip because you gotta think of all

1710
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: the ship that I went through in the past or

1711
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: whatever it was. It wasn't because of meals because I

1712
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: was putting myself around bad people, you know what I'm saying. Like,

1713
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: so I took a lot of ls, not on the

1714
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: strength of me personally being a person that was supposed

1715
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: to have that ill. But I'm the I'm the famous guy,

1716
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: so you you hold that L. So at that point, man,

1717
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: I was just like like in my mind, I was thinking, like, man,

1718
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: these things they're gonna see. I'm the step on either.

1719
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: But now my whole vibe, Bro, this ship is a testimony, bro,

1720
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Like I don't even want to do nothing. It's not

1721
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: about holding my own dick and being like I'm the

1722
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: nigga and I'm hit maker bolled. I ain't on none

1723
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: of that ship. I'm still young berg nigga. I'll still

1724
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: meet people every day, get them opportunity nigga. If you

1725
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: it don't matter, I don't care if you black, blue, brown, nigga,

1726
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: if you talented and you could flex up and you

1727
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: could work with me the studio. Every day I'm touching

1728
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: somebody else. I'm giving people opportunities. All my co writers

1729
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: that I worked with, I'm putting them on my single

1730
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: on my album. It's not about me no more. I'm good.

1731
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: It's about the inspiring the next person. Maybe I could

1732
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: put the ball in somebody else hand that when I

1733
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: decided to stop dribbling, that motherfucker that could pull me

1734
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: up circle or success type ship, you know what I'm saying,

1735
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: And on a big scale, anybody that's living that seeing

1736
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: my journey man and know that this ship is so

1737
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: possible as long as you work hard and keep diving. First, bro, yes, bro,

1738
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: Like it's niggas that dissed me and songs that that

1739
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: that pay me top dollar for songs now, but not

1740
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: even like the dis because like whatever happened, it was

1741
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: a relevant punchline in But the way you're gonna stop

1742
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: and not get your money and go work and do

1743
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: all this other ship because the nigga felt somebody way,

1744
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: you have to strip all that ship down like man

1745
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: and just be like who's next? Like look at this,

1746
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: look at what God bless me with. That's not even

1747
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: focused on. Yeah, let's not focus on no bullshit or whatever. Man,

1748
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 1: Let's be a light. Let somebody be inspired by you,

1749
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: let somebody feel man. I can take it there. Yeah,

1750
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: because it's possible. And and and I say that to

1751
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: the circle all the way back. Like the course. Right,

1752
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: we all have a story, we all have a gang

1753
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: of els, but it was all par for the course.

1754
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: And we can do one or two things, right. We

1755
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: can repeat the cycle, or we can decide to do

1756
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: better and start a different cycle. And that's what me

1757
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: and this guy is committed to and loving hearing you

1758
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: say that you've committed to that same thing, because that's

1759
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: what's gonna make the difference in our culture, not continuing

1760
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: to repeat the cycle where we continue to hold each

1761
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: other down and always want to stand on top of

1762
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: each other. Man. I can stand, man, I can stand

1763
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: right next to my brother man and and support his

1764
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: shine dance dance when he succeeds, you know what I'm saying,

1765
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: shout him out, like, man, go get it. Man, listen,

1766
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: if we all came, if we're not fighting to pay

1767
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 1: for dinner, it's a problem. It's a problem. For sure.

1768
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: That's how it's gotta be. As they would say, players

1769
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: don't keep scoring. Man, I'm I'm and that's the best,

1770
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: the best thing you said all day. I swear it's real.

1771
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm living in Bro. That's real. And it's a different

1772
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: level of maturity, right, it's a different level of maturity

1773
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: to say yeah, like okay, and then you got that off.

1774
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: You know what, it's bigger than that. Hell yeah, because

1775
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: it's like even like now, like I just see the

1776
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: plan and the plot being so bigger like bang, like

1777
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 1: you gotta think, Bro. I was went from I'm not

1778
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna say lying but but speaking, you know, I was

1779
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: technically lying but speaking about being executive on the Breakfast

1780
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: Club and like seeing my life prior to that, like

1781
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: I always looked at the Barry Gordy's and the l

1782
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: A Reads and all these different people whatever. But now

1783
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: it's like who better to be inside of building than me?

1784
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? I've been the artists.

1785
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: I've been through any the worst thing that artists can

1786
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,839
Speaker 1: go through, Like I went through being canceled before being canceled,

1787
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Like I went through everything possible and I'm still one

1788
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: of the biggest in the game, relevant, making music, turning

1789
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: out this ship. Like I had two twenty seven placements

1790
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 1: last year that was the six years six of my run,

1791
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: Like two seven place pretty much place in the record

1792
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 1: almost every day damn near Like but no, we all

1793
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: we do is go to s we an't got no kids,

1794
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't got no other I don't got a job.

1795
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: This is my job. This is my life. So you

1796
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: believe this is your actual job. Like when you look

1797
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: at it, you wake and me like, yoe, this is

1798
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: really what I get to do every day. Like I

1799
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: don't think that collectively in this business we ever truly

1800
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: take those times unless somebody reminds us to say, you

1801
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: get to do this every day. This is this is

1802
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: the blessing of all blessings. It is on a big

1803
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: scale like that ship, like it's it's no way to

1804
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: be replaced or whatever. But that kind of that thought

1805
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: kind of inspired me something. So I'm working for Atlantic

1806
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's like I'm lost into the sauce

1807
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, well you know because uh, the

1808
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: deals I had over the Atlantic, like I really went

1809
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: in like man, my six setting, like my people set

1810
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: me up. They was everything was Gucci but um, I

1811
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: realized that they wasn't trying to make me a boss.

1812
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: They was just wanted the records from me, you know

1813
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we're cool. And then I was like, damn,

1814
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Like I was watching everybody else trajectory and see how

1815
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: people you know what I'm saying, that should go like

1816
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: this or whatever like and I was like, damn, well,

1817
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: this producer or this songwriter kind of took a dip

1818
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 1: because he only focused on himself. He didn't work with everybody.

1819
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: That's why I was like, I'm not singling myself out.

1820
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: I'm not only working with three niggas. I don't care

1821
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: if I the email or a text or somebody hit

1822
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: me on Instagram. They got some five ship nigga. This

1823
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: is what we donn We're gonna work with everybody in

1824
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: the game. And you know atlantic I would. I was

1825
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: able to be on both sides of the fence because like,

1826
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 1: I'm still an artist, I'm still a creative, but I'm

1827
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: in these executive meetings and I'm seeing things and we

1828
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: kind of part. We came to a to a part

1829
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: of the ways which we did a damage like several

1830
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Number one records, hell of millions of records together and

1831
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: l A Read I met A speaking of l A

1832
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Read Happy birthday, l A Read I met, I met him,

1833
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: and I always looked up to him. Tricky Stewart introduced

1834
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: me to him formally or whatever, and he was just

1835
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 1: like so like with me. He was just like, man,

1836
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: you got nigga like this is this is what it is.

1837
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: And he's like, man, bro, I don't even really got

1838
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: it like this or whatever, like, but I want to

1839
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: give you a label deal, and I believe in you

1840
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure you get the money.

1841
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 1: And I'm working for Atlantic at this time or whatever,

1842
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: and they ain't offered me no label deal. I putting

1843
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: putting up hit. So I'd already did number ones for

1844
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: niggers and all types of they ain't come to me

1845
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: and say no here or a label deal. We think

1846
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: So l A offered to me, and I loved l

1847
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: A and I'm like, man, this this nig is amazing, man,

1848
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 1: like I want to be around this guy. So I

1849
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: go back to Craig and I'm like, um, hey, bro,

1850
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: l A offer me would deal. It's like a million

1851
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: dollars or something like two million dollars on signing, let

1852
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: me go get my money. Like we all no, no

1853
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: about no way. We we love you, your family, we

1854
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: love you. And I'm like okay. So they're like, let's

1855
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: let's let's show you how much we love you. So

1856
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: they came back. They gave me a deal. And the deal,

1857
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, it stopped me from doing business with l A.

1858
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And because I was already

1859
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: locked in the Atlantic and the deal was cool, you

1860
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I took the deal was an

1861
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: interesting time or whatever. It was a good, good deal,

1862
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, but it wasn't what I was worth. Well,

1863
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: this this is what happened. They gave me the deal.

1864
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: So now I'm in an A and R meeting, right

1865
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: and they like, um, here comes such and such ship.

1866
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody wants to sign this kid.

1867
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: He has a bidding war all over Columbia is really

1868
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: heavy on him. A Republic or anybody or whatever they got,

1869
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: they got their offering. Now blah blah. He wants he

1870
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: wants nine million dollars. He's got one song, he doesn't

1871
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: have a mixtape. But it's the biggest virul ship in

1872
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: the world. So you come in, he don't perform, he

1873
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: don't do nothing, don't wow me. And the Niggers was

1874
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,719
Speaker 1: really sitting there time about giving him nine million dollars

1875
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 1: and then you realize what you'll deal with. Yeah, I

1876
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: don't excuse me, like wait, wait what? And I didn't

1877
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: sold millions of records out and been here for four

1878
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: years like we what this is like the end of

1879
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: my concerts, like three and a half. I did come

1880
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: on man, like I did the ones, the big records,

1881
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: like y'all went and told me, we're gonna show you

1882
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: how much we we believe in you and how much

1883
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: we care about you because you're a family, because you've

1884
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 1: been with us. So from now I never forget this

1885
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 1: ship Um. I left the office that day and I

1886
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: went back to the hotel and then ship uh. The

1887
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: next day that the A and R meeting kept going,

1888
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: I ain't show up, so like they all calling me,

1889
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: they are like some of mee to office. I go down.

1890
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, I was super close with Lora and I

1891
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: still love all these people to the day. Because there's

1892
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 1: nothing bad about this story. I'm still very successful. It

1893
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: is what it is. So they like, what's the issue.

1894
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't feel like y'all believe in me,

1895
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 1: like how you're supposed to whatever. We're breaking down different

1896
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: stuff and they were like, well, what do you want?

1897
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: I was like, if you really believe in me, y'all

1898
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: paying twelve thousand dollars a month for me to be

1899
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: in a studio without paying my my my engineer. I

1900
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: want my own studio. Do what l A Read did

1901
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: for Tricky Stewart and back when they he was on fire,

1902
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 1: or do what y'all did for DJ Drama or whatever

1903
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: you want to outline it as believe in me, because

1904
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: I know when Tricky put me on game he said,

1905
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: well Ship, when l A Laugh or whatever, I kept

1906
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: my studio. It's my studio, Okay, take it. So I'm

1907
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: like believing me in that type of investing me in

1908
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: that type of manner. And it was like, how much

1909
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: you think that should have gonna cause? Line when people

1910
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: was like four or five more millions. You know what

1911
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Allowed to do it in l A to

1912
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 1: do it the right way, the way he would want

1913
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: to do it for three million, four million and ship.

1914
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 1: They were like, all right, bad, We're gonna get back

1915
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: to you and see how this work or whatever for you,

1916
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: and we're gonna make it happen. We believe in you're

1917
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: our guy. And they never made it happen. So from there,

1918
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: I was like, damn l A read even after I

1919
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: dubbed the deal and I couldn't take the million dollars

1920
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: from l A. This man somehow turned my million dollars

1921
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 1: into a song deal and still gave me the million

1922
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: that I wanted to do business. Yeah, Like, you can't

1923
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 1: come be a partnership here. I'm still gonna give you

1924
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: the same amount of money I was gonna get you

1925
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: to do that for this. I'm like, that's a real relationship,

1926
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, Damn this, this, this,

1927
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: this ain't what I think it is. So from there,

1928
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: they never holler back. And my partner Chris Sean, who

1929
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 1: was amazing, why I do all my records what or whatever.

1930
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: We had a group, but we still have a group,

1931
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: and um, he was like, man, can you see if

1932
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 1: you could go meet Ghazi or whatever and get us

1933
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: a deal with Empire. I'm like yeah, So I reached

1934
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: out to Ghazi. We go up there and Ghazi was

1935
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: like telling me a bunch of different stories in his

1936
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: past and I didn't know that he worked with Atlantic.

1937
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 1: That's tough too, you know what I'm saying. That he

1938
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 1: started all the records and this on the third and

1939
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm was like, oh really. So then once he got

1940
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: that transparent with me, I got to be even more

1941
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: transparent with him about my situation or whatever what was

1942
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:59,759
Speaker 1: going on. And I was just like yo, like because

1943
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: they put my back against the wall, like you only understand,

1944
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: like they had put basically put a bounty on my head,

1945
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: like oh, you ain't happy, pay this number and you

1946
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: can leave or or not. And the relationship was already

1947
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: so muddy, you know what I'm saying. After I'm like, damn.

1948
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: So I told guys what the number was. I'm like, bro,

1949
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 1: like ship they want, I'm They're saying, I gotta buy

1950
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: myself out with this or give them the money back myself.

1951
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 1: And I was gonna give them the money back, my

1952
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: dumb ass. But one of my mentors, my O G

1953
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: is trying to do on me, said Nigga, you're want

1954
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 1: to music and you don't get no motherfucking money none

1955
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: of it. So I said, all right, and guys, he

1956
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: was just like, Bro, I believe in you. I thought

1957
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 1: you was coming up here that asked me to do

1958
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 1: a producer album or something like that. I thought we

1959
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: was gonna do small business. But I believe in you.

1960
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: Here's the compound in San Francisco. That's what I want

1961
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: to do. I'm gonna get you a penthouse here in

1962
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 1: San Francisco or whatever. You just come work with us

1963
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, and please, bro, like if you would allow

1964
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: us to work together, I think this would be great

1965
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: for us or whatever. He went and paid Atlantic thing

1966
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: money back and that's how I left Atlantic Records. Wow,

1967
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that name, so that that ship heavy

1968
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: on me. So now it's like now the game like,

1969
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: oh you ain't got your studio no more. They was

1970
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: empowering the studio. They Nigga is trying to like put

1971
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: chinks in my armor like Empire. They're not knowing the Empire. Damn.

1972
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: They were the biggest company in the game. You know

1973
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but it's indie. It's not what

1974
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 1: I used to be. Whatever. That's like most people don't

1975
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: understand market ship, bro. So my back was against the wall,

1976
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: like I would be seeing it thig to be screenshot

1977
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 1: and ship like close friendship. It would be producers I

1978
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: worked with and songwriters I worked with, like I think

1979
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: a Burger fucked up. He funked up. He's gonna fall off.

1980
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: After this, we had so much massive success, and then

1981
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 1: from them I got in with guys I ain't never

1982
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: gonna lie man. I met Young Blue in the airport.

1983
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: Young Blue was like, man, like, let's work together. And

1984
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: you know how you're being an airport. I ain't really

1985
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: figured out. I ain't know, I ain't taking serious or whatever.

1986
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: So we end up meeting again. We went up there

1987
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: and we was in San Francisco and we was just working.

1988
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I need a hit. And you know,

1989
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: my first mind, I collaborated with Chris so much. I'm like, nigga,

1990
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: you want a song with Chris Brown is out of here.

1991
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: It's out of here, and we're going number one. So

1992
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 1: we're in there. We cut the hook up me him, Blue,

1993
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: Ivory Christian, we did it all together. Then from there

1994
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 1: I end up getting Brown on the record, and that

1995
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: was my first one out the gate with with him

1996
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: Brown and two Chains or whatever, and it's platting the record,

1997
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: it's being the fucking ship. It was one of them

1998
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 1: recurring motherfucker's That Ship was tops here for forty seven

1999
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 1: weeks out of the year. Last Yea was my first

2000
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,679
Speaker 1: one off the hip there. We came with the Peru

2001
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 1: record after that, and I did think project and I

2002
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: think Ship. She got the most added last week at

2003
01:41:55,400 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: Urban radio with our record partner to stay Yea. Yeah,

2004
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: shout out to my little brother Yong Blue. We're back. Yeah. Now,

2005
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: that's that's That's an amazing story, man, an amazing path

2006
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: that you've taken. And the one consistent thing is you

2007
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: never stopped making the music, right because this is the

2008
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: only industry that any day of the week, any time

2009
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 1: of the year, you can wake up and hit the lottery.

2010
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 1: But you just have to continue to do it. And

2011
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: that and what I found in my years in the

2012
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: music business is the guys who don't really ever reach

2013
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: their potential or the guys who stopped. Yeah, you will

2014
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: have your time, You will have your time, you will

2015
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: have your season. Even even some of the guys that

2016
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 1: we may not consider to be the most talented, they

2017
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: found their way because they just stayed in it. They

2018
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 1: stayed at it. And it's just like yo, you know

2019
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: that record such and such as What's her name. Hell no,

2020
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: how many times I do that a week probably like

2021
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 1: that's who record. Oh man, that's amazing, bro, And we

2022
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: salute it, right, But when guys give up on it,

2023
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 1: that's when it's over. Other than that, it's never over.

2024
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: Like this is an ageless business. This business is based

2025
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: on Peter Pan you know what I'm saying, Like, you've

2026
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: never got to grow up in this motherfucker. Like you

2027
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: can make your life whatever you wanted to be in

2028
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 1: this music if you stay true to it and you

2029
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: you just stay at it. And for that, bro, I

2030
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 1: I just want to salute you for that because you

2031
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: you faced enough right for the average motherfucker to be like, man,

2032
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm done with this ship like this is this is

2033
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 1: and to further go into it to know that Nick,

2034
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: you actually come from money. You didn't have to do

2035
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: this ship. You can hit anything and your bos couldn't.

2036
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: Just did really stay business. It's not as cool as this,

2037
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: Like let's let's be let's let's keep it. You know,

2038
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: this is this is the cool. But the coolest part

2039
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: about that ship is that I'm just getting the journey

2040
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 1: is just beginning, right, you know. It's like you know

2041
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: what happens though when you when you hit now now

2042
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 1: nothing's off limits, like your access now is unlimited. It's like, oh,

2043
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: I see it's so much clearer now and I can

2044
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: do so much more now with the access that I had.

2045
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 1: And if they won't do this, I'll do it myself. Yeah,

2046
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: that's when you hit a stride. Yeah, I don't know

2047
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: how you're gonna play this next second. You know, you

2048
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 1: know what he does if you see, if you're seeing

2049
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 1: what will be on man Like we got this special

2050
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 1: segment of the show Man. It's called I Ain't saying

2051
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: no names. You can't say names Burg I've seen can't

2052
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, So the story can be funny or

2053
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: fucked up, are both, but you can't say the actual

2054
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: names of the people. You can say shit around it

2055
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 1: that mother trying to figure some out, but you can't

2056
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: say their names young Berg, kid make up. You can't

2057
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: say it was me and somehow you can't you know

2058
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? I mean, I know you got what

2059
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: was Jamie? What was was? What was the last guys?

2060
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: Anybody that you don't think? How did what was? The

2061
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: boxing started off? Whar this hotel room? Cocaine famous action.

2062
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm not doing cocaine. Doing cocaine, I'm not be is

2063
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: my religious belief. That's how it starts. We need we

2064
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: need something good man, and we know, you know, we

2065
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 1: need a legendary hint maker story man without the names.

2066
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Not the names. I'm trying to think, man, come on

2067
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: and tap into your ecstasy and ship man. What y'all

2068
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: calling a beat? Beat? And they got it? Yeah, I

2069
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: never got to the nicknames. I never Just give me

2070
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: the ex. Just give me the ex. Which color you want, bro,

2071
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: Just don't confuse me, just give me all right, okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Um.

2072
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: I was at a famous person's house and I was

2073
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 1: I was working with a with a bunch of other

2074
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: famous people before they were famous. You know what I'm saying,

2075
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Like everybody's going to come up or whatever we in

2076
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: Hollywood blah blah blah. And the famous person who house

2077
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: it was I wanted to have a meeting with me.

2078
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,679
Speaker 1: So we like I go to the living room or whatever.

2079
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: But it's another famous person with him. That's a lady,

2080
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: that's um that's giving him a hand job under the

2081
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 1: covers that like he's sitting on the couch or whatever.

2082
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: But during the meeting, like she's a famous girl, like beautiful?

2083
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: Is she looking at you? Like? Yeah? Meanwhile, she wasn't

2084
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. The famous girlfriend is also in the house

2085
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: while this is happening to just floating around in the meeting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so he's talking to you though, Like how

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Speaker 1: we're talking right now? Boy? Are you getting a hand job?

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Speaker 1: Enough contact with me? You are not allowed. You are

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Speaker 1: not allowed to look at me while you were getting

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Speaker 1: a hand job. But did she look at you know,

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Speaker 1: they was in their own thing. I think they were

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Speaker 1: on some enhancements. You know, you can't look at me

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Speaker 1: because somehow I'm gonna feel like I'm part of the inspiration.

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Speaker 1: I don't want it. Yeah, that was wild. Did you

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Speaker 1: get a deal out of that? Oh? He didn't get

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Speaker 1: that happened? It was whatever. That is the entertainment industry. Listen,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, I have take I'm game,

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Speaker 1: Valentine And this has been hit maker on the Ry

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Speaker 1: Money podcast, emphasis on make up my way for the couple.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't being money money