1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Just a reminder you can catch me recording this podcast 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: live on amp amp is a new live radio app. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: They'll let you call in and chat with me in 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: person while recording. Get the app on Apple's app store 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: and make sure you follow me at John Middlecoff to 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: get notified when I go live. What is going on? Everybody, 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: John Middlecoff three and OW podcast? How are we doing? 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: Here's the game plan. I'm gonna hit on uh. I 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: watched a couple shows this week, Hard Knocks obviously with Rogers, 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: and I watched the Johnny Manzell Untold documentary on Netflix. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: We'll hit on those off the top, and then we'll 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: just do a heavy mail bag at John Middlecoff is 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: the Instagram fire in those dms, get your question answered 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: on the show. Very easy to get involved. I'm not 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: gonna get to everyone's question. I'm gonna do a bunch 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: of mail ban questions over the next probably a couple weeks, 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: just my Instagram fire in those dms, and I will 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: get to your question, or at least attempt to over 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: the next three or four shows. So we will just 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: keep banging out mailbags. Appreciate everyone that fired in the DMS, 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: and I will be on Collins's show at least. The 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: game plan as of recording this on Wednesday is for 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: his Friday podcast, So this will be my last podcast 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: on this feed of the week and we'll get back 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: after it next week. I'll be in Lake Tahoe this week, 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: so I'm excited to get out of one hundred and 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: seventy five degree heat and go enjoy the lake. So 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: I will talk to everyone soon. We'll discuss some preseason reactions, 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: if anything crazy happens, and just overall thoughts on football. 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Just keep it rolling because we got a lot going 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: on Volume dot Com. Check out our merch got a 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: lot of three and out hats, flex Fit, Trucker Style, 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: you name it. Subscribe to the podcast, check out the 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: YouTube page. Let's fire but first game Time. 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It's hard 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: for any of us that watch the initial kind of 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: iterations of the show in the two thousands to watch 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: it now and think we're getting that much out of it. 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: We know what it's like, even if you've never worked 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: in the NFL, to be behind the scenes of personnel meetings, 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: when guys get cut, just the ebb and flow of 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: a training camp. We have decades now of evidence of 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: what it looks like. It no longer is that it's 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: basically team propaganda, and I've always defended the teams like 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want any part of it either. Now none 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: of us, and listen, I'm probably not the target audience anymore. 63 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: But I feel pretty good about when the Jets are 64 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: coming out saying it's inhumane to watch players get cut. 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: It's like, we got twenty years of evidence of watching 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: these players get cut, and forty percent of them come 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: back on your team to the practice squad, make a 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: six figure job, so it's not like you're throwing them out, 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: you know, to just unemployment line, right, so they're gonna 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: be okay. But that's this is the cards we're dealt. 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: I never care and find it really boring when they 72 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: get on and undrafted free agents that end up getting cut. 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: I want no part of that. And listen, I broke 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: down and I turned it on, now a huge I 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: would probably not have turned it on on some random teams, 76 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: but it was Rogers, and I will give Hard Knocks credit. 77 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: They just played Aaron Rodgers the entire show. I could 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: do four episodes Rogers, Nate Hackett and the Head and 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: Robert Solo. That's all I want. I don't need your 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: random six round pick who's going to be a practice squad. 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: I don't need the veteran guy getting cut. Just give 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: me Rogers, give me the offense and give me the excitement. 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: Around the team on getting Aaron Rodgers on the squad 84 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: because while I was watching that, it's a weird spot 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: for Zach Wilson, who the players can't be any more 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: over the top, but is genuine about their excitement with 87 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers being on the team. He's literally the savior. 88 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: But it's palpable with the guys that are twenty one, 89 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: twenty two, twenty three years old that are Zack contemporaries 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: from an age standpoint, they can't hide it, and I 91 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: don't blame them, but you're still dealing with human being. 92 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson has to feel a little weird. You also 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: see in this episode, and I know, like I understand 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: what I'm getting now when I turn these things on. 95 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: This is state run media. Everything is getting approved by 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: not just the Jets, but Aaron Rodgers. So I heard 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: Colin talk about it's paying Aaron in a good light. 98 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: Yet of course it is like that was the only 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: way that they can get these guys on board and 100 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: give them access, and it's it's I'm not expecting, you know, 101 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: groundbreaking information coming out of camp, but I do think 102 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: you see and I don't think we do a good 103 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: enough job those of us to talk about football. We 104 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: hold several guys the last couple decades right in the 105 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: highest regard of football intelligence. Brady obviously, Peyton. Even well 106 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: before Brady, I think Drew Brees was held on that 107 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: regard of just being football savants. They basically like coaches 108 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: on the field. They're under standing of scheme, football lingo. 109 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: It's incredible to watch them talk. It's like they're speaking 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: a different language. Aaron never really gets put into that 111 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: category yet when you watch them, and clearly if you've 112 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: watched him play like he's on that level. When you 113 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: just compare him and Zach Wilson, one dude's like a 114 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 2: Harvard business graduate and the other guy's in fifth grade 115 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to talking, discussing, and executing football. Aaron's 116 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: football knowledge. And here's the thing. When we talk about Brady, 117 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: when we talk about Peyton, and when we talk about Breeze, 118 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: Aaron's the superior athlete. He's got the best arm of 119 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: the bunch, and he's ever been as accurate as all 120 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: three of those guys. It's why I think sometimes he 121 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: gets so harshly criticized because it's almost like he's underachieving. 122 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 2: Now you could push back, and it's a team game, 123 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: and his defense has let him out, let him down 124 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: over the years. But the simple reality is he's only 125 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: got past the NFC Championship game one time. Right. He 126 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: loses in that game a lot, where even Peyton's lost 127 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl several times. But he makes it 128 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: to the Big Dance. Obviously, Brady's been there what feels 129 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: like fifty times. And you know, I've said over and 130 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: over like Rogers on a different level than Drew Brees, 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: but in terms of football acumen, football intelligence and just 132 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: football IQ, he's a savant and I think you see 133 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: it around the team. Definitely his physical skills, the defense 134 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: being odd by it. But listen, I can't get enough. 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: If I'm going to watch the show, which I turned 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: it on, I would have turned it off if they 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: would have given me one of these random players that 138 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: I can't even pretend to care about. And I would 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: say the same thing if I'm a Jets fan, just 140 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: give me Rogers, give me hacke It, give me Sala. 141 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Like when you go see Garth Brooks or Metallica, you 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: want to hear the hits. I don't want to hear 143 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: the new stuff. That's what I want, and that's what 144 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: the consumer wants. Keep playing that. The Johnny Manziel documentary 145 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: I thought was pretty sad. I really did, And I 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: think it shows you the majordy guys in the NFL 147 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: are not you know, the elite talents, right, Trent Williams, 148 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons, Mahomes, Josh Allen. Those guys, even from a 149 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: talent standpoint, are outliers. Most guys are relatively in the 150 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: same world. Now, they're relatively talented to all of us 151 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: that played high school football or even the overwhelming majority 152 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: that played Division one college football, but relative to their 153 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: peers in the league. Once you remove the top four 154 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: or five, depending on how good your team is, the 155 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Eagles or the Niners, the Cowboys might have more good players, 156 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: but most guys are in the same somewhat universe, and 157 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: what separates them the longevity of a career is that 158 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: there's some dumb luck, right. Health is something that's out 159 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: of anyone's control. But work, ethic, desire, passion for the sport, 160 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: all the intangible stuff, the ability to take information and 161 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: then execute it on the field. And one thing you say, 162 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: with Johnny, who was a remarkable college player, and they 163 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: transition right into the SEC at tex A and m 164 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: and he took it by storm and he won the SEC. 165 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: But his work ethic even in college was a zero. 166 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Now He's not alone. Not everyone at Alabama, Texas or 167 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: USC is a super hard worker. There are definitely a 168 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: lot of them. Sometimes we mature a little later as guys, 169 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: so sometimes your work ethic grows as you get older. 170 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: Mine did. I'm not saying I was. Most people aren't 171 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: willing to do stuff, but you get better understanding of 172 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: what it takes because you can get by on town. 173 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: Right. 174 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: Think about like your metabolism. When you're young. I could 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: eat whatever I wanted in my early twenties as long 176 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: as I worked out. I didn't get fat. I can 177 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: work out seven days a week right now. I had 178 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: to change my diet in my mid to early thirties, 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: and honestly, as I'm getting closer to forty, it's slowing 180 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: down even more. Anyone my age can relate, right, and 181 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: you got to adapt. It's why most guys when they 182 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: get to the NFL, they early on in their career 183 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: they realized, like even high level guys, I have this 184 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: veteran player. He showed me what it was like to 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: be a pro. That doesn't mean how to score a 186 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: touchdown or how to get open on a route or 187 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: how to make a tackle. They're talking about when to 188 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: go to sleep, how to prepare, how to study, what 189 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: to eat, how to lift right, how to sustain your 190 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: body in the off season, Like this is a full 191 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: time job. And the one thing you saw with Johnny 192 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: is how little he gave a shit about any of it. Now, 193 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: there's an element of addiction and some issues clearly off 194 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: the field, but when he bragged about not watching a 195 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: minute a film, like did not even care, he falls 196 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: into that category. Of His talent from an NFL standpoint, 197 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: was never. He did not run like Lamar Jackson or 198 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: throw like Josh Allen or Mahomes. His talent was pretty average, 199 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: Like his physical skills much closer to brock Purty than 200 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. So when you are not going to work 201 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL, have a work ethic and train and prepare, 202 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: you're gonna get lapped, and then when you play quarterback 203 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna be absolutely terrible. It is impossible to be 204 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: an average talent and do the bare minimum and have 205 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: a chance to success. We've seen over and over and 206 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: over again. JaMarcus Russell had talent a lot more than 207 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: Johnny from a physical standpoint, did nothing and was god awful. 208 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: I'll never forget watching Johnny. I'm pretty sure it was 209 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: his rookie year. There was a play. They were playing 210 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers and he tried to run away from 211 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: Luke Keighley and he was running away. You watched his 212 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: documentary from Guys in the SEC. I think the SEC 213 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: is probably even better now than it was back then, 214 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: top to bottom, but still it's impressive. You run around 215 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: NFL guys. Luke Keighley closed on Johnny Manziel so fucking fast. 216 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: It was stupid. Johnny thought he could gets the corner 217 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: and Luke gained on him. For every step Johnny took, 218 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: Luke was taking about four. Luke tackled him with his 219 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: with ease, and it was like, this ain't gonna work. 220 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: And I didn't even know at the time. I told 221 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: last night I was watching with my girlfriend. I'm like, yeah, 222 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: Johnny comes from oil money. That's just what I'd always heard. 223 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: And in the documentary they tell you they made up 224 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: that story so they could get around getting paid on 225 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: the side or whatever, which shows you how stupid it is. 226 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: I despise the NCAA. They remind me of a federal government, 227 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: Like I don't know anyone that I respect that takes 228 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: them seriously, not a soul. And watching Mark Emmeritt talk 229 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: just made my It just makes me queeze even thinking about. 230 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: And I'm not one to always have the same takes 231 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,479 Speaker 2: as the mass media, but that's one like the NCUBLEA, 232 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. I've always believed football 233 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: and sports should bro like, why do you need the NCAA. 234 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: You've outgrown them. But that's neither here nor there. But 235 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: the reason Johnny Field wasn't because he was making money 236 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: on the side. It was his work ethic was a zero, 237 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: an absolute zero. He couldn't have worked any less, even 238 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: he admitted it. But you can get by that in college, 239 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: just like a lot of young people get by with 240 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: stuff right. Smart people get by in school right. Skinny 241 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: people get by with bad diets, but bad work ethic 242 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: in the pros. I don't care what you do any industry. 243 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 2: I don't care how talented and smart you are. It'll 244 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: catch up to you and you'll lose and if the 245 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: highest most competitive industries like an NFL, you get your 246 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: ass kicked and you get embarrassed. 247 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: And that's it was. 248 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: Honestly, I found it kind of a tough watch. Listen, 249 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: I've known Eric Burkhart. I don't even know if I've 250 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: ever met him in person. He actually came on this 251 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: podcast years ago. He's got a bunch of big clients, 252 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: you know Cliff Kyler had. But it also shows you, like, 253 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm not anti agent, but I also like they're in 254 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: it for one reason and one reason only. Like we're 255 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: all in stuff for money. So like this notion when 256 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: these agents get on their high horse on social media, 257 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: client like you pretend to care. You just care about 258 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: your points in the deal always. And even Eric Burkhart was, 259 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: you know, covering up drug use, film study, you name it. 260 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: And I don't blame him. That's his job. He's trying 261 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: to get points out of the deal. He wants Johnny 262 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: to get a second contract. But this I always love. 263 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: You can always tell in the media when guys are 264 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: like balls deep friends with other people in the media 265 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: or I mean agents. It's like I'm not friends with 266 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: that many agents, right, Like definitely not where I have 267 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: to worry about anything I say about them, because listen, 268 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: I call what it is. They're in it for the coin, 269 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: They're in it for the cash. Everything else surrounding about 270 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: is a lot of bs. I'm not saying they're not 271 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: good people, or you know, they don't treat people well 272 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: or anything, but let's just call the most basic element 273 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: of their job is to get their guy paid the 274 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: most any means necessary so they can get their percentage. 275 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: That's their job, like the real estate agent. A real 276 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: estate agent would want to sell ten milli million dollar 277 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: houses if they could. Why because they make a bigger commission. 278 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: You want your client to get the biggest contracts possible, 279 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: and you will do anything you know, by any means 280 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: necessary to get them to that point. If that means lying, 281 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: if that means covering stuff up, so be it. Hey, 282 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: let's dive in the mailbag at John middlecopp is the 283 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: Instagram fire in the dms. Very easy to get your 284 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: question answered here on the show if I can find 285 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: it into my dms, because we've got a lot of dms. 286 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: We'll start with David question for the bag. My wife 287 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: and I stayed up late to watch Hard Knocks. I 288 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: know you've been saying the show's brand has lost its value, 289 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: but I'm telling you the reason we watched, and I'm 290 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: sure a ton of others for that reason, was Rogers. 291 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: I asked my wife who was on Hard Knocks last season. 292 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: She had no clue. My question is, since the end season, 293 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: Hard Knock seems to have more drama, how does HBO 294 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: and the NFL decide which teams get selected for that? 295 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: I watched the Cardinals last year. Not a Cardinals fan, 296 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: but I found the drama week week in season fascinating. 297 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: I feel like preseason Hard Knocks has much less intense 298 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: and therefore probably less entertaining. Huge fan man, Yeah, I 299 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: think Hard Knocks in training camp used to be really intense, 300 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: and a huge reason was because guys got cut, guys 301 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: got veteran players might not make the team. There were 302 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: competitions to get jobs. They don't show any of that. 303 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: If you just go to a random practice, right, pick 304 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: any team, there are several positions that are up for debate. 305 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Right. 306 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: There might be an offensive tackle opening, there might be 307 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: a linebacker spot opening. There might be a veteran that's 308 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: kind of battling, like a fourth round pick, but they 309 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: don't show any of that stuff anymore. 310 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: Now. 311 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: One reason that, like I said earlier, that helped with 312 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: this show was just rogers. But you're not getting any 313 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: other competition. It's not like, hey, is this guy gonna 314 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: make the team. They're not even talking like that. So 315 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm with you the EBB and flow in season because 316 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: you're playing opponent. It is pretty cool the intensity on 317 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: the coaches' faces and yeah, I hear you. The way 318 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: they choose obviously, preseason is based on teams that haven't 319 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: made the playoffs for a couple of years. You can't 320 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: have a new coach. I'm pretty sure maybe you can, 321 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: there's certain rules. I don't know how the end of 322 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: the season works. I don't know that at all. I 323 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: would imagine teams volunteer, but that's a good question. Since 324 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: colleges are chasing bigger bucks and switching conferences, I feel 325 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: like the states should step in and do something. Since 326 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: most schools and the bigger conferences are publicly funded, I 327 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: feel like those states should scale back the funding to 328 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: those schools to use the money elsewhere. Also, being that 329 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: most are publicly funded, I feel the taxpayers in those 330 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: states should have a say, in what the school looks for, 331 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: they fund the academic element of it. The athletic endeavors, 332 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: like when the softball team travels, that is paid for 333 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: by the athletic department, which is a all funding operation. 334 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: So the states in a school like these athletic departments 335 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 2: make money because of the football program. Why does it 336 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: matter to the state whether the softball team, if your 337 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: UCLA is playing Iowa or playing Washington. How how does 338 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: that impact the taxpayer at all? When they don't even 339 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: pay for any of that. I'm always you know, I 340 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: always lean government has nothing to do with impact something 341 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: that they're not paying for. I hear you if they 342 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: were funding it, but they're not. You know, that's why 343 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: these people keep making these moves is because you make 344 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: more money with football, and then that all bleeds down. Now, 345 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: you could argue you lose money right with softball, basketball, 346 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: baseball traveling all over the place, but you make more 347 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: with football, so maybe at the end you net a 348 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: little bit more. I guess we'd have to break down 349 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: all the numbers over the next ten years to see. 350 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: But if you live in California, let's say your tax 351 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: paying money, that whatever goes toward any public institution has 352 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the athletic program, nothing for the POD. 353 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, though, but the last thing 354 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: I'd want would I mean, the UC system tried to 355 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: get Gavin Newsom involved with UCLA and they basically said, 356 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: kiss my ass. I know we all respect Sean Payton 357 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: for what he's done in the league. However, is it 358 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: fair to say the Denver situation is getting a little 359 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: red flagged. He has done nothing but stir shit up 360 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: ever since arriving, and he might have a real problem 361 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: on his hands with Wilson. Now he's banning certain hats 362 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: and sunglasses. I'm all for the tough love in coaching, 363 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: but the whole situation is getting so much publicity at 364 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: the point it's hard to ignore that might end up 365 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: in an under dubster fire. My overall belief anytime a 366 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: guy can bend a team over the barrel at this level, right, 367 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: it's happened forever. Parcels did it, Homer and did it, 368 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: and home Gren guy like four million back in ninety nine. 369 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: Parcels was a seven figure guy back in the nineties 370 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: when he started paying a coach eighteen twenty million and 371 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: It's not like he's been rattling off Super bowls. Sean 372 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: Payton is an impressive offensive mind, but his ego, let's 373 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: call a spade a spade, is enormous. And if I 374 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: give you, if my ego's big, and anyone worth their 375 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: salt has some self belief, if I start going, hey, 376 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: we need you to save the Denver Broncos, here's I 377 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: don't have the exact math in front of me, but 378 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: ninety million dollars. How many players on the Broncos have 379 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: ninety million dollars guaranteed? I think it's just one Russell? 380 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: So how Sean Payton gonna not only think, not only 381 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: am I the savior, I'm fucking higher paid than everyone here. 382 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: Even McGlinchey, who they gave eighty eight million dollars, only 383 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: got fifty five guaranteed. Sean Payton's contract is full of guaranteed. 384 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm with you that like he can't wear Gilligan hats, 385 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: I would understand that if they were was like someone 386 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: on the team was selling merch and the Gilligan hats 387 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: come from the team. It's team issued equipment. I used 388 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: to wear one at practice when I works for the Eagles. 389 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: Where'd I get it? The bucket hat came from the team. 390 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: I'm traveling today back to Sacramento. I'm gonna use a 391 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: backpack that the Eagles gave me. It's a cool like 392 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: kind of camo. It's big. I can fit a lot 393 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: of stuff in there. It's I don't understand these are 394 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: team issued gear. Fuck in your shirt like, this isn't 395 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight at AUGUSTA. You're playing football. So I'm 396 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: with you. I think this a lot of egos, a 397 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: lot of money involved. You got the Waltons who are 398 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: never used to losing at anything. They just make money, 399 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: keeps growing. It's like recession proof. Recessions hit, they make more. 400 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think things. Unless Russell's awesome, which 401 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: he could be. Maybe he just had a down year. 402 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: But as Mike Sandos said that the Tears, he's been 403 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: trending down for three years. And these aren't you know, 404 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: me sitting on my couch or you as a fan 405 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: sitting on your couch, going God, Russell's been getting shittier. 406 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: These are NFL defensive coordinators, head coaches and gms watching 407 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: this film evaluating the guy, keep voting him at a 408 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: lower tier and the lower graded year for three straight years. 409 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: Luckily they got the Raiders in their division and Brandon Staley, 410 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: You and Colin have it right. The plight of running 411 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: backs in the NFL, it's about market value. You know 412 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: who would love to get ten million guaranteed a year, 413 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: Almost every Olympic athlete in the world. It's not like 414 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: the owners are holding onto the money, They're just allocating 415 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: it in a way to maximize ROI. The only thing 416 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: I'd pushed back on the Olympian thing is like, unless 417 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: you're like Michael Phelps, are you really generating any money? 418 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: Or Saint Bolt. I mean, the running backs are part 419 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: of a business that's generating huge revenue, so they're seeing 420 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: it right if you're an Olympian, Like, where's the cash 421 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: coming from in twenty twenty three? At that level, I mean, 422 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: I hear. It's just I'm not trying to I see 423 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: what you're doing. But that's the only thing I'd push 424 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: back there. Question for the POD on NCAA conferences, The 425 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: Big East is still a powerhouse basketball conference no football, 426 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: and the other teams in the conference don't have football either. 427 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: Would you expect the Big East to remain the same 428 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: with all the schools not having FBS football, Villanova, Marquette, Butler, 429 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: de Paul, Yukon, all big basketball brands but no real 430 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: football schools. Basketball money is important, but barely holds a 431 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: candle compared to the Big ten or of the SEC 432 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: football thoughts on the Big East, I think once you 433 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: go down that road and live it in Philly for 434 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: a while, you know, I worked with a guy still 435 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: good buddy of mine, works with the chiefs now who 436 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: played football at Villanova, you know, because they're built like 437 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: where I would school cal Poly D one double A. Now, 438 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: the difference is is Villanova is a top I know 439 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: they had a down year last year, but a top 440 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: what five to ten basketball brand. But I've seen it 441 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: like out on the West Coast with Saint Mary's in Gonzaga, 442 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: like they've just gone all in on basketball. If you 443 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: go all in on basketball, then I think it can work. 444 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: But that basketball team's got to be making the NCAA 445 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: and in Villanova's case, like winning national championships. But like 446 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: you said, when you leave that opportunity and it's too late. Now, 447 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: it's not like Villanova or Marquette can just start at 448 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 2: a football program that's going to be good enough to 449 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: play at a high enough level. But I think when 450 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: you're in the middle, right, Like San Diego State's a 451 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: good example. They've had a really good basketball program for 452 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: a while now and their football programs in the Mountain West, 453 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: and they compete to win I would say somewhere between 454 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: eight to ten games on a yearly basis. That's very 455 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: lucrative for them. Obviously going to the they're never going 456 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: to be in the National Championship game in football, but 457 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: just having a football program who plays Boise, who can 458 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: play Ucla or whatever and make them money is very 459 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: very lucrative. So I don't really know. I guess what 460 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: your question is, They're just a huge separation, right. Kansas 461 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: is a good example, or Arizona. Those are basketball schools 462 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: that for the most part have down football programs, but 463 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 2: they need that football revenue. And I know Kansas is 464 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: kind of trending episodes are actually Arizona, But there's a 465 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: big difference of just having a zero. You have to 466 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: operate as a conference or as a school much differently. Right, 467 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: UCLA and USC now going to the Big Ten, their 468 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 2: Olympic sports are going to dramatically benefit from the cash winfall. 469 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 2: Same with Oregon and Washington because of the football cash windfall. 470 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: And you have to wonder, and I've seen this in 471 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: the SEC. Look at the last couple of years in 472 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 2: the NCAA. For those of you guys like fill out 473 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: brackets or gamble in the games. Now, it doesn't doesn't 474 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: mean they always like make long runs. But the last 475 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: several years with the basketball programs in the SEC, very 476 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: highly rated teams, they're paying their coaches a shitload of money. 477 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: Buzz Williams A and m Tennessee has what's his name, 478 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: the former Texas coach, Arkansas muscleman. Right that you're just 479 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: paying Alabama NATO's. You just start paying guys big coin 480 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: and their programs are legit and they're winning a bunch 481 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: of games. Mississippi State Ben Allen used to go to 482 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: Final Four with UCLA, seeing the you see it in 483 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: these other conferences, TCU, Jamie Dixon, they're good now. So 484 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't really know if I answered your question, But 485 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: to your point in the Packers not streaming their family 486 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: not practice, is it possible they're trying to hide Jordan 487 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: Love like you, I've heard some good and bad about 488 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: his practice seems like the jury is out. I wonder 489 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: if they're just trying to keep folks guessing or just 490 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: concerned about putting a first year starting quarterback who isn't 491 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: performing well on a national stream. That's fair. If it 492 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: goes poorly and he throws a bunch of incompletions, we 493 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: all would it'd be going viral. Not debating you there, 494 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: But we're a month away now, he's going to play 495 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. There is no hiding in football. So 496 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: if you have to worry about hiding a guy, you 497 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: got to be pretty nervous about once September hits, because 498 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 2: we're all going to be watching, like all the plays 499 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: he makes the Bears, good or bad, We're gonna have opinions. 500 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: We all have access to it. So you might be 501 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: onto something. But I think it's simply more, you know, 502 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: coaches get paranoid. Maybe they have a few new wrinkles 503 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: with the Love offense than the Rogers offense, though, I 504 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: think their offense is going to look They're going to 505 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: run a lot of inside and outside zone. They're going 506 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: to try to run the ball thirty thirty five times 507 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: game and pass as you know, and have a much 508 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: contained passing game for any young starter. That's just the way, 509 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: just good football. But that's the way it worked with 510 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: Rogers when Lafleur first got there, and it kind of 511 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: resurrected his career. Not really a question, but something that 512 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear you talk about on the pod. 513 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 2: I think the XFL should be taking advantage of this 514 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: running back dilemma to grow their leak. It would take 515 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: a big investment up front, but if they offer these 516 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: star running backs who are free agents, more guaranteed money 517 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: than the NFL is offering them, they can add highlight 518 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: real players that we want to watch in their league. 519 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: I know the XFL already generates pretty solid ratings when 520 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: compared to other sports, but if they're really trying to 521 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: make a name for themselves, they should jump on this. 522 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: If I'm a running back, of course, i'd want an 523 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: NFL team to sign me and hopes to make the 524 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: most money possible. But shit, if the XFL offers more money, 525 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: who cares about the patch on the jersey? Right? Also, 526 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: did Saquon get a no tag clause on his new deal? No? 527 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: He did not. If not, I'd be floored. He basically 528 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: gave the Giants the ability to tag him on a 529 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: cheaper number. Next year the number goes up, So that's 530 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: not an issue. Here's the problem. You have to pay 531 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: so much money to make it like the Saquon's getting 532 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: eleven million dollars. What do you got to pay him 533 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: to leave twenty million dollars? Because if you're paying him 534 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen million dollars, is that enough to leave the Giants? 535 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think it is, So I think the 536 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: main problem is it's just that is that I don't 537 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: think they could afford the pay. They'd have to pay 538 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: him two and a half x to make it worth 539 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: his while to get him to do that, and I 540 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: just don't think they're going to do that. And if 541 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: you just get Saquon Barkley in your league, does it 542 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: really change that much? So you'd have to pay probably 543 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: three guys twenty five million each, Because even twenty million dollars, 544 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 2: if I'm making eleven, what I make being the starting 545 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: running back of the Giants or of the Colts is 546 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: still dramatically more lucrative than the XFL right off the field, 547 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: and guys like Saquon are making a lot of money 548 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: that way. So I hear what you're saying. Not a 549 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: crazy idea, but the amount they would have to invest, 550 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: and there's no guarantee they would get an ROI right, 551 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: it would not guarantee we would watch it, just wouldn't. 552 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks might be a different story, but the running backs, 553 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: because again, these guys aren't making two million dollars, so 554 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: it's not like I have to offer him eight. I'd 555 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: have to offer them at minimum. I would say twenty plus, 556 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: and I'd probably want a couple. So we're talking forty 557 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: fifty sixty million dollars. Most of the guys on the 558 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: team don't make that much money. I think the average 559 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: salary is like eighty grand, So I mean, you're talking 560 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: potentially more than your entire team and one guy. I 561 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: just don't think it would work. Love the pod question 562 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: about player shares of TV revenue. Been thinking about this 563 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: question since the Saquon talk started earlier this summer. I 564 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: have no idea how this works them. Curious A lot 565 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: of owners talk about how much teams and owners make 566 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: from TV revenue. I've heard that players or players association 567 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: also make money from TV deals. How when and how 568 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: much money actually reaches the players. Is it a significant amount? 569 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: I started thinking about it went Saquon wanted a new deal. 570 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: I agreed with you. That has been that he's been 571 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: well compensated. But none of the numbers include player shares 572 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: of TV revenue. The TV revenue just like a lot 573 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: of other revenues. I'm not exactly sure what it encompasses, 574 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure if the sweet revenue, but any 575 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: Jersey sales, any deals like Nike, the official you know, 576 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: brand of the NFL DraftKings, the official sponsor, whatever. That 577 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: all creates the salary cap. So when these players get paid, 578 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: every team in the league gets two hundred million dollars 579 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: salary cap. It's based on the revenue. So it's all 580 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: just a formula, and I'm pretty sure it's I don't 581 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: think it's quite fifty to fifty, but it's like forty 582 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: nine fifty one the players. The players get forty nine, 583 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: the owners get fifty one. So the players own a 584 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 2: piece of the revenue. Right, if me and you own 585 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: a business and it makes five hundred thousand dollars a 586 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: year in this scenario, or let's pick, let's pick one 587 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year, easier to break it up. 588 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: I get forty nine, you get fifty one, and so on. Right, 589 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: that's the partnership they're in. It's the best partnerships to 590 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: be in. Our revenue share agreements, right if you have 591 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: some ownership, because you know, you split the cash and 592 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: that's gross, right then you get taxed off that, but 593 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: you always want the gross revenue, which they get a 594 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: piece of, and that's how they get paid. So Saquon 595 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: is part of it, no different than Daniel Jones or 596 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: Kevon Thibodeau or Darren Waller, whoever's on the Giants. They're 597 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: all revenue share partners. Here's what makes the NFL more 598 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: complicated than let's say basketball. Who all these teams or 599 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: all these leagues have revenue share agreements. More players, right, 600 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: so there's just fifty three guys a team instead of 601 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: just twelve guys a team, and there's two more teams 602 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL. So the amount of players in the 603 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: NFL make it just harder for everyone to make premium dollars. 604 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: And now, because like the quarterbacks make so much, it 605 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: just kind of dwindles down as we go down. The 606 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: hierarchy of the players. I've heard You mentioned a few 607 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: times this year how you don't cover too much fantasy 608 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: football on the content spectrum, but one of your main 609 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: takes last summer was about the red flags around russ. 610 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: This sentiment was also being echoed by some fantasy football 611 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: content folks, and you, along with these folks, were on 612 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: one of the main reasons I ended up backing off 613 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: my exposure to the Broncos offense as a whole. Keep 614 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: the training camp news takes coming, and these do impact 615 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: how people drafting around the league. Yeah, I mean, I 616 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: don't talk about it specifically about draft this guy in 617 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: a certain round, but ultimately my content or my takes 618 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: informed takes hopefully can help you make a good draft 619 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: pick or whatever. The in the fantasy sphere really enjoy 620 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: the show. Your take on college football spot on. There 621 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: seems to be an arms race for the power between 622 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: the SEC and the Big Ten. I think this ends 623 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: with a formation of a new league with innovations of 624 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: the best thirty to forty schools to participate. That's the 625 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 2: only way I see some of this dead weight left 626 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: on the sideline. Rutgers, Maryland, Vandy, Northwestern, etc. Will be 627 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 2: hard to kick them out, but could see them left 628 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: behind if the water down SEC in Big Ten makes sense. 629 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: Here's the thing when it comes to I saw Chip 630 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: Kelly say this the other day. He said, why don't 631 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: the fifty sixty big football programs, Why aren't they all independent? Right? UCLA, USC, 632 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma, Bama, you name it, Washington, Oregon, 633 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: and everyone just plays everyone like Notre Dame and then 634 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: all the Olympic sports. And you could even choose basketball 635 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: as well, play in conferences like it makes sense for 636 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: Oregon to play Oregon State and Cal and Stanford in basketball, 637 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 2: and you can do some non conference tournaments. But it 638 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: definitely does not make sense for UCLA softball to go 639 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: play Ohio State every single year, or Michigan State or Rutgers. 640 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: It makes no sense. But from a football standpoint, what 641 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: if they all went independent and we just kind of 642 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: split them up by regions and we developed the playoffs 643 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: twelve fourteen teams that way. Now, that was the most coherent, 644 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: well thought out, and just most I would say, least 645 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: complex way of making sense that I've heard anyone say 646 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: it or verbalize it, for sure, But I don't know 647 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: exactly how we're going to end up there. Whether it's 648 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: two main conferences, whether it's the independent idea, but we're 649 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: all going to end up there at some point. The 650 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: date no one truly knows, but time till I know 651 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: you occasionally mentioned you winning a bet on the Broncos 652 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl. Not sure if you saw von 653 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: Miller's Pardon my Take interview recently, but he mentioned the 654 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: Broncos wouldn't have beat the Panthers more than two out 655 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: of ten times. I remember the field conditions for the 656 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: game were awful, allowing Miller to dominate. Do you think 657 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: the Panthers win that game if they didn't play in 658 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 2: Santa Clara At the time, Levi's had a lot of 659 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: field issues. So if you think this issue in Arizona 660 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: was a slippery field, that was bad. You know, I 661 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: did hear him say that, I don't think Carolina was 662 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: that much better than Denver. Now, the one thing he 663 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: couldn't say because he respects the guy too much, and 664 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: you just can't really talk shit about Peyton that way. 665 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 2: Peyton was a shell of himself. He could barely throw. 666 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: So if they did play ten times a lot of 667 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: those games, they're just not going to be able to 668 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 2: score any points, and if I remember correctly, they might 669 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: have scored on the first drive. It was hard for 670 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 2: Denver to score in that game. But the Denver defense 671 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: was I mean, it was incredible. It had four awesome 672 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: d linemen. It had Vaughn and Whare Hall of famers, 673 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: Derek Wolfe who was a stud at the time, in 674 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: Malik Jackson. Their front four was badass. Their linebackers were good, 675 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: Brandon Marshall, Trevathan, their corners were awesome. They had Robi 676 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: Talib and Chris Harris safeties. I'd watch that team several 677 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 2: years in a row in person because they played the Raiders. 678 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: The defense was awesome. So that defense alone, you know, 679 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: it's Cam's not exactly I know he's having a great year, 680 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 2: but I would say more like five out of ten. 681 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: I would say more like five out of ten. And 682 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 2: remember that defense was just kicking his ass and Cam 683 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 2: just had enough. What are your thoughts on Kevin Brown? 684 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: The broadcasters suspended as being viewed as a bit much 685 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: recent broadcasting suspensions have been more about racist inappropriate comments. 686 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: As a lifelong Orioles fan, couldn't be happier with the season. Truthfully, 687 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 2: I'd rather focus on the good than the bad. If 688 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 2: you buddy had a string of bad relationships but finally 689 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: found the right one, wouldn't you want to introduce him 690 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: and talk about how things are going right now and 691 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: not previous blenders in the past. My two cents love 692 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: the pod overall. I think this, and universally all the 693 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 2: broadcasters got his back. All those same broadcasters work for teams, 694 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: ninety eight percent of them, maybe the I think the 695 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 2: two New York teams are allowed a little more leeway 696 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: to be aggressive. But even like Michael Kay, who will 697 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: be critical, yeah maybe a bad at bat, is he 698 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: ever saying yeah, Aaron Boone's over his head or that's 699 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 2: a terrible move by Brian Cashman. Fuck Now, these broadcasters 700 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: would never say anything. They're all homers because that's who 701 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: signs their check. So I think it's a little disingenuous 702 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 2: when all these broadcasters act tough guy like they're allowed 703 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: to say whatever they want. They're all very, very cautious 704 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 2: about what they say. I've seen it. I was once 705 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: fired because the Raiders forced me out cause and I 706 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: was just working for a station. I wasn't even part 707 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 2: of the broadcast. I just did the postgame show, which 708 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: was separate from their quote unquote broadcast. But they didn't 709 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 2: like it, and I realized right then, I'm not meant 710 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: for that. That's not my personality. I don't care how 711 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: much money you could pay me. I'm not a big 712 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: corporate shield guy. And that's what most of these guys are. Now, 713 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: what you're saying he just gave a graphic that they've 714 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: struggled against Tampa, is that abnormal. It'd be like the 715 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills going this year to play New England and 716 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: then going, you know what, for the last twenty years, 717 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 2: it was very hard for us to win. The last 718 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: couple of years we've had success, but for two decades, 719 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: everyone knows. We've all watched the games. I watched it. 720 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: He wasn't even being that negative. But you also work 721 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: for that guy. He signed your checks. And whenever you 722 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: work for someone that signs your checks, like you're not 723 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: in a partnership, you're not in a revenue sharing agreement. 724 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: That guy is paid whatever three four hundred to call 725 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 2: the Orioles games and to be positive. So anytime, even 726 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: if it's stupid, which I think we could make that 727 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 2: argument pretty dumb that he got suspended but like these 728 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: broadcasters all getting on their high horse, like you guys 729 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: all do the same stuff. Are very careful about what 730 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 2: you say. Now, every owner has a different amount of 731 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: leeway of what you're allowed to say. But my buddy 732 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 2: Greg Papa, who is now the voice of the forty 733 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: nine ers, got fired by Mark Davis. You know why 734 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: he got fired by Mark Davis because he said he 735 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: didn't want Mike Shanahan to interview for the Raiders job. 736 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: Because Mike Shanahan and Al Davis were mortal enemies. They 737 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: hated each other, but Mark Davis didn't give a shit 738 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: he wanted to interview Mike Shanahan. And Greg said that 739 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: on the radio and said he was offended by it, 740 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 2: and Mark Davis was pissed off and ultimately fired him 741 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 2: because of it. It's Mark Davis's team, I think Greg 742 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: even later said as much. But that's just the way 743 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: it works. It's just part of the game. So it's 744 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: why most of the broadcasters like I don't listen to 745 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: their I wouldn't listen to their podcasts right because they're 746 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: not giving me real takes. They got to be very 747 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 2: careful about what they say. Don't blame them they want 748 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 2: to keep their job, but that's kind of the world 749 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: they're in. I do think that you're being a little 750 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 2: unfair though, of like he was just showing that they 751 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: struggled at Tropicana Field. Of course they do. Tampa's awesome, 752 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: They're good now it's and I don't I don't watch 753 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: you guys on a I haven't watched any Orioles game, 754 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: so from you know, every broadcaster told me is the 755 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: greatest thing since John Miller and Bob Costas. But you know, 756 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it got a little overblown. 757 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. Do I think there's a little 758 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: more to the story? Could be wrong? Probably? I do. 759 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 2: What are the main position battles or storylines we should 760 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 2: be watching in the preseason? Man, I don't know. I 761 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: mean what team. I say this over and over. Most 762 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: teams don't have that many, and the ones they have, 763 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: they've definitely gotten very cautious about being too outspoken about them. 764 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: So I think teams are very very careful about letting 765 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: you know kind of who's on the fence, who's fighting 766 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: for their job. Because of social media, yeah, I mean, 767 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: to me, you could argue the most intriguing one is 768 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: probably like, is Trey Lance gonna be a third strink 769 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: quarterback because it's Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask. Interesting at all? No? Okay, 770 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: last question, quick question for the POD. I know left 771 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: tackle is a premium position and they get paid as such, 772 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: but I was wondering if right tackles get any leverage 773 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: on earning more money when their quarterback is left handed. 774 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't see the difference between a right tackle and 775 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 2: a left tackle. Most of the sweet pass rushers line 776 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 2: up over the right tackle. Last time I checked TJ. 777 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 2: Watt right tackle. Joey Mosa often right tackle. When Brock 778 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: Purdy got knocked out by a Son Reddick, who's like 779 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: an All pro Pro Bowl guy, he was over the 780 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: right tackle and tight end. So if you play right tackle, 781 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I guy, he's getting a lot of money. 782 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm also blocking guys making twenty twenty five million dollars 783 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: over here, so I think they've gained a lot of leverage. 784 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 2: If you're a good right tackle, you're gonna get paid. 785 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: Look at McGlinchey. McGlinchey just got what twenty two million 786 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: dollars a year? Twenty million dollars a year eighteen million 787 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: dollars a year. I don't know the exact average, but 788 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 2: fifty five guaranteed. So that's basically guaranteeing three years at 789 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: what nineteen million dollars a year. So I think if 790 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: you're a trusted right tackle, you get paid cash and 791 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 2: as you should. I'm asking you to do a lot 792 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 2: like that's a difference between left guard and right guard. 793 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, Fletcher, Cox, Buckner, you'd ay man all these 794 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 2: sweetened tackles, Hargrave, whoever can line up, I mean both sides. 795 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 2: There's no difference between a left guard right guard. Center 796 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: tackles Like you get a block, you have to block. 797 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 2: There is no way around it. The best players in 798 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: the league making the most amount of money. That's a guarantee. 799 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: So I hear you. I'll get to a bunch more questions, 800 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 2: probably on Sunday's Pod. Appreciate everyone reaching out, firing in 801 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 2: those d ms. I know I got a lot to answer. 802 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,439 Speaker 2: We'll keep banging these out audios. Have a good day, 803 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: have a great weekend, and I'll be on College Pod Friday. 804 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: See it. The volume