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Speaker 2: Reality with the King podcast is back on tour and

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Speaker 2: my first stop is in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: On Monday, February third.

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Speaker 2: I am joined by special guests, married to medicine star

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Speaker 2: doctor heaven Lee and baby. We are going to have

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Speaker 2: a good time, so get your tickets. It's available as

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Speaker 2: City Winery Atlanta. Also link in my bio on my Instagram,

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Speaker 2: Twitter pages and don't forget Monday February third at the

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Speaker 2: City Winery in Atlanta, Georgia. Carlos King and married to

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Speaker 2: medicine star doctor Heavily. This is a show you do

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Speaker 2: not want to miss. Welcome to Reality the King. It's

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Speaker 2: me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and one

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Speaker 2: of the most sought after executive producers in reality television

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Speaker 2: with over ten years production experience. Twice a week on

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends

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Speaker 2: across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and

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Speaker 2: revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode of Reality with the King, I decided

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Speaker 2: to do this episode solo because I did not want

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Speaker 2: anyone to feel like things were said that wasn't said,

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Speaker 2: or I had a guest on that said something that

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Speaker 2: I may have agreed.

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Speaker 1: With that I don't.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to do this very special episode with me,

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Speaker 2: myself and I Hey, Beyonce. So we have to get

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Speaker 2: into the season finale of the Housewives of New York City.

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Speaker 2: As you all know, I've been very honest about me

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Speaker 2: not watching this season. I did watch last season. I

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Speaker 2: recapped it on this very podcast, and I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it right. It wasn't amazing, it wasn't horrible.

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Speaker 2: It was definitely worth watching. It was watchable. I was

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Speaker 2: thrilled to get to know these new, beautiful, smart, successful

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Speaker 2: women in New York City. And I felt like all

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Speaker 2: of the women season one were a pleasure to watch

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Speaker 2: and I enjoyed them. They were fun, natural, And there's

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Speaker 2: nothing like a season one cast because they don't have

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Speaker 2: the sort of cloud hanging over their head of the

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Speaker 2: audience hates me or the audience loves me. I don't

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Speaker 2: like the way I look on camera, people are judging me,

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Speaker 2: you know, any of those preconceived notions coming into the show,

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing, nothing, nothing like a season one cast

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Speaker 2: when you think about the real housewatchs of Atlanta, right

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Speaker 2: when you think about the real House Watson, New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: just organic, natural conversations, dialogue, drama moments. I mean, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about Danielle style, but you know I need not

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Speaker 1: Okay, natural, natural, natural. It was just a joy to.

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Speaker 2: Watch, and I felt like the first season of this

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Speaker 2: reboot of Rony was watchable. Then came season two of

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Speaker 2: the reboot. Right, so I want to make sure I'll

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Speaker 2: break it down that way season two of the reboot, right,

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Speaker 2: because I don't know season we're in technically, so let's

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Speaker 2: refer it today as season two of the reboot. Tried

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Speaker 2: to watch the first episode and not immediately knew, Wow,

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Speaker 2: these girls are suffering through the sophomore season, and they

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Speaker 2: read the tweets, they read the comments, they don't like

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Speaker 1: I knew that instantly.

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Speaker 2: I knew that that within fifteen minutes, and I changed

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Speaker 2: the channel and I never once returned to the show

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Speaker 2: until the finale. I know all about the pranks that

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Speaker 2: so confirmation that my intuition was correct that these women

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Speaker 2: were playing a game, and it wasn't the game of life,

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Speaker 2: it was the game of Monopoly. I'm being fooled, fake money,

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Speaker 2: fake storylines, so I knew it, and I'm never ever

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Speaker 2: ever going to trash a show. That's not my spirit.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is not going to trash anyone. This is

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Speaker 1: But it's never to be mean. Okay, this is not

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Speaker 2: And that's why I decided not to watch or recap

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Speaker 2: If I don't like an episode, I'm gonna tell y'all

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Speaker 2: I I think some of these girls or guys tried it,

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Speaker 2: Episode for various reasons I don't like, and I'm certain

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Speaker 2: I'm not alone of this, right. I just don't like

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Speaker 2: when people accuse somebody of something that isn't true. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to be a reality star a celebrity to

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Speaker 2: know what that feels like. I think all of us,

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Speaker 2: so that the heat can get off of a person,

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Speaker 2: That's not the reality TV I want to watch. It's

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Speaker 2: that shit when it comes to the finale. Brand is

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Speaker 1: She arguably was one of the fan favorites.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed her first season on the show because in

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Speaker 2: the compliment in the world, she was a wacka dude though,

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Speaker 2: you know, a wacky character, you know, wacky personality, sort

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Speaker 2: of like how much I love Britney on Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 2: I think Brin drank the kool aid. I think Brent

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Speaker 2: I knew that the first fifteen minutes of watching the show.

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Speaker 2: She's trying to make moments happen that didn't seem to

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Speaker 2: my rain drops kept telling me like, well, Carlos, you're

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Speaker 2: not watching Ronnie, You're not missing anything.

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Speaker 1: This season is not great. I'm like, okay, again.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to use my platform to bash a

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Speaker 2: And I also think Brand is trying very hard to

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Speaker 2: start to create moments. The problem that I have, though,

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Speaker 2: You cannot create a moment ruining somebody's reputation. That's not okay.

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Speaker 2: It's not okay in real life. It's not okay for television.

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Speaker 2: It is not okay for television.

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Speaker 2: So I'm pretty sure all of my listeners, you guys

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Speaker 2: have have watched it. Now I'll give you a quick recap,

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Speaker 1: The casts on the cast.

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Speaker 2: Trip and Uba and Brian got into it. Brand made

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Speaker 2: took that and made it an additional comment about, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's what you do. And again I'm paraphrasing, but

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Speaker 2: that's what happened. All of the women pretty much told

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Speaker 2: given right, And it was like eye for an eye

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Speaker 2: that's what we want to see our housewives, eye for

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Speaker 2: an eye, shade for a shade, and that's just what

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Speaker 2: we signed up for. What we did not sign up

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Speaker 2: going to skip the fact that Uba is a tall,

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Speaker 1: But she's a reality star. That's her job.

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Speaker 2: Not her job meaning she's performing, but that's her job

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Speaker 2: in the sense. So that's why she was cash. She's beautiful,

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Speaker 2: Little bit de Lulu, right, But that's that to me

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Speaker 2: We all should think we're bigger than what we are, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all of us have a little bit of delusion, Delulu

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Speaker 2: delusion in us, and it's cute, it's fine, it's whatever.

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Speaker 2: Uba was right, though she didn't just come up with

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Speaker 2: since on Ronnie. It's when Ramona told Bethany how pretty

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Speaker 2: much she slept her way to the top. And what

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Speaker 2: did Bethany do? She laughed and said, I can't fuck

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Speaker 2: way to the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Can somebody fuck me? That's what Bethany said.

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Speaker 2: That's why she's the icon, the legend, and the moment

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Speaker 2: on TikTok that she is.

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Speaker 1: I love Bethany. Bethany could do no rock of eyes.

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Speaker 1: I love her. Sorry, not sorry.

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Speaker 2: She's an icon, she's the legend, and she is the

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Speaker 2: moment on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I like Bethany's TikTok.

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Speaker 2: But when someone accused her of sleeping her way to

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Speaker 2: And again I'm not saying Brent should have said something else,

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Speaker 2: you didn't like what she said, got it clapped back

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of conversations that brin conveniently uses the

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Speaker 2: Based on what I've seen a brand, I'm struggling whether

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Speaker 2: When I saw her open up about that, I immediately

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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's not our story to tell.

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Speaker 2: I understand if Brent told that story to the girl's only,

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: If Brent said I was assaulted sexually and Uba doesn't know,

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Speaker 2: I agree with that one thousand percent. Brent said, I

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Speaker 2: So if Brent told Uba this story and UBA's like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: Brent said, she told you this story, so that Uba

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Speaker 2: And the parts that it's hard for me to even

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Speaker 1: That would have been horrible.

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Speaker 2: Even if she knew and was told that, shouldn't she

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Speaker 2: So Jessel tells her behind the scenes, and Brent and

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Speaker 2: Uba felt like my career is finished if people believe this,

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Speaker 2: clock what Either you told her this story or you didn't.

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Speaker 2: This is this is this is bad. You can't sit

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Speaker 2: So within a few minutes of your friends looking at

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Speaker 1: Let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 2: If Jesso never told Uba, and if Uba never compassionately

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Speaker 1: And what makes me so.

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Speaker 2: Sad is not everybody has that personality to have a

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Speaker 2: This person who's being called or concern from being called

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Speaker 1: You ge know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: If she quietly would have said, guys, I don't remember,

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Speaker 2: Again on paraphrasing, Why did it take Uber to have

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Speaker 2: We should talk to her about that, especially because Brent

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: What have made sense to me is if I was

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Speaker 1: Let it be.

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Speaker 2: If I'm Aaron Asi, I would have said to Brent, Hey, Brian,

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Speaker 2: If Uba would have known this, I think if you

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Speaker 2: and you tell her how you felt, tell her especially

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Speaker 2: because you told her anyway, right, So what's wrong with

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Speaker 2: was all chaotic, unexpected, and shout out to the producers,

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Speaker 2: and shout out to the producers for making sure the

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Speaker 2: audience saw that as well, so that we're able to

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Speaker 2: understand the phull scope of the situation. So as we

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Speaker 2: see Brin in the morning key king with the producers,

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Speaker 2: and she.

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Speaker 1: Sent a text to them the night before.

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Speaker 2: Saying that you know, she wanted to leave whatever, and

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Speaker 2: she left, And then they have the photo shoot for

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Speaker 2: the show and they all pretty much are saying they

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Speaker 2: haven't really touched base with Bran, and then Brian walks

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Speaker 2: in pretty much and they kind of give her the

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Speaker 2: coach shoulder, and she knows she's not giving the sympathy

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Speaker 2: she once had. Even in Brent's Confessionals, she's she's somewhat

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Speaker 2: not really telling us the audience based on what she

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Speaker 2: said the night before, right, maybe Uber then clock it.

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Speaker 1: I wanted an explanation.

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Speaker 2: The confessionals are taped sometimes days, weeks, months after filming

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Speaker 2: a finale. Okay, So the fact that in the Confessionals,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't able to get a full story, well what

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Speaker 2: really happened?

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Speaker 1: We weren't given that.

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Speaker 2: Well, what we were given was UBA's emotional confessionals, to

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Speaker 2: where she was able to emphatically state that being accused

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Speaker 2: of that just isn't her character. That's not who she is,

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Speaker 2: and she's crying because it's not right. So as a journalist, Hey, Portia,

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Speaker 2: I want to read to you all what Brent said

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Speaker 2: to Rolling Stone. So I'll reach all the highlights. It's

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Speaker 2: a pretty lengthy article, but I want to be able to,

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Speaker 2: you know, give you guys all sides of the story,

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Speaker 2: right and the latest end to be you Brand assured

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Speaker 2: fans that she did reveal personal details to her co

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Speaker 2: star and this is what she said and quote It's

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Speaker 2: not right to assume that everyone remembers everything that you

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Speaker 2: say all the time and then hold them accountable for that.

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Speaker 2: I know for a fact that I said it, but

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Speaker 2: when someone screaming into the phone, the other person might

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Speaker 2: not necessarily hear them. I know what I said, and

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Speaker 2: I know that I did say it. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to that statement alone, I'm just gonna be very honest

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Speaker 2: if that's the case, I'm just wondering why that statement

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Speaker 2: wasn't set on the show. Why did it take months

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Speaker 2: after filming for you to come up with that statement.

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Speaker 2: I watched the finale, I watched her confessionals. Unless you're

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Speaker 2: telling me they did not air it and that you

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Speaker 2: said it in the chair, I'm not certain if that's

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Speaker 2: how you feel your exact words are. I know for

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Speaker 2: a fact that I said it, but when someone screaming

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Speaker 2: into the phone, the other person might not necessarily hear them.

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Speaker 2: I know what I said, and I know that I

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Speaker 2: did say it. Why does it take a Rolling Stone

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Speaker 2: journalist and your publicist and your team to organize this

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Speaker 2: interview for that statement to happen months after filming, Because

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, that statement should have been said on

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Speaker 2: the show. Maybe it's said at the reunion, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just being real. If that's how you feel, if your

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Speaker 2: memory within a couple of minutes in that heated finale, right,

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Speaker 2: you went from saying I told her to well maybe

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Speaker 2: she didn't.

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Speaker 1: Clock it, and then you left it alone.

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Speaker 2: So if your memory works that way within minutes, why

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Speaker 2: didn't it work within minutes from you leaving the trip

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Speaker 2: to sitting in your confessional chair to say the same.

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Speaker 1: Statement, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: When watching the finale, Brent was surprised to see her

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Speaker 2: cast accusing her of intentionally lying. Brent says, that was shocking.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me that in the three minutes. But what

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Speaker 2: I'm called horrible names, and I'm obviously upset that I

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Speaker 2: somehow devised a plan. It's disgusting that I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: two things that I will hope that no woman or

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Speaker 2: person would have to experience suicide and sexual assault. And

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Speaker 2: everyone's like, Bran, we feel taken advantage of. Maybe don't

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Speaker 2: use those words to describe the situation. I just feel

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Speaker 2: like I wasn't shown much. The other thing Brent said

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Speaker 2: in this article is before hitting to Puerto Rico, Brent

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Speaker 2: said she said down with her brother in Central Park

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Speaker 2: to open up about how her past sexual assault has

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Speaker 2: prevented her from being focused more on dating. Brent says,

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Speaker 2: I filmed with my brother and I share the connection

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Speaker 2: between that and why I'm kind of dodging dating and

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Speaker 2: why I make jokes about only dating billionaires. She tells

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Speaker 2: Rolling Stone, I thought sharing. I thought sharing was going

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Speaker 2: to help me feel better. And one of the other

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Speaker 2: highlights is she has stated that she's not too sure

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Speaker 2: where her friendship stands with the cast. She says with Uba,

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Speaker 2: I think what's done is done. I feel like we

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Speaker 2: will get back, but it takes time to repair. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how they're able to move on from this.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 2: we have the Washington Reunion to see. Look, when it

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Speaker 2: comes to brand I would like to say this. My

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Speaker 2: heart goes out to her from what she experienced. Like

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Speaker 2: I said earlier, no woman, person, man, who mayver should

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Speaker 2: experience that, an assault, sexual assault, any form of salt.

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Speaker 2: It's my heart goes out to her. I think Brian,

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Speaker 2: I would love for Brent to.

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Speaker 1: Have a professional talk to just about some things she's

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Speaker 1: dealt with.

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Speaker 2: That's my hope for her. Therapy is great. I'm in therapy.

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Speaker 2: You know, being a therapy doesn't mean you have problems

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Speaker 2: that isn't able to be handled without a professional help.

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Speaker 2: I feel like everybody in the world should have a therapist.

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Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. We live in we live in

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Speaker 2: crazy times, and.

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Speaker 1: I just think everybody should have a professional talk to.

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Speaker 1: That's That's been my my advocate for that.

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Speaker 2: I just want brand to talk to somebody. That's that's

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Speaker 2: that's my hope for her. This was a hard episode

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Speaker 2: to watch. I don't know where the girls would come.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where the girls can go from here.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think going back into watching this season, you know,

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Speaker 2: watching up finale, it was going to be this. I

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Speaker 2: watched you because obviously it was a talk of the town,

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Speaker 2: and my social media was blown up by people wanting

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Speaker 2: my opinion on this. I really feel bad for Uba,

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Speaker 2: I really do. My heart seriously goes out to Uber

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Speaker 2: and I'm grateful that Jessel told her because I'm afraid

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Speaker 2: if Jessel didn't, what the conversation would be like today.

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