Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why and look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that? Culture? Yes, boss d culture calling. We
Speaker 1: have to address one thing, the elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: The elephant in the room, which is the room we're in,
Speaker 1: which is no longer the little Harry Potter broom close
Speaker 1: that we were in. That was a crazy twist that
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room was the room. Wow, crazy twist.
Speaker 1: How meta. It's so big. I already love it here
Speaker 1: me too. I feel very at home. I feel very
Speaker 1: at home. We have a cultures to have perched on
Speaker 1: a bookshelf to remind us where we came from. Remind
Speaker 1: us where we came from. We have a Forever Dog
Speaker 1: studio Marquee. We have a Phillies player. Ma. It's great.
Speaker 1: I have notes. I have notes about the work program.
Speaker 1: We need a table. We'll get a table. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get a little table for that light over there, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a little end table for the lights.
Speaker 1: Want to make sure we're covered on tables. And but
Speaker 1: I gotta say, the books are gaggery. There's such a
Speaker 1: great variety, you know, it's a very masculin. But I
Speaker 1: see some eighties smith, I see I see I see
Speaker 1: some good stuff. I see some I see great variety.
Speaker 1: There's some black Panther comics at the bottom. Who is
Speaker 1: reading these books? I think Alex and HPJ. You guys
Speaker 1: hang out in here and read the books. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's I don't judge you what you based you.
Speaker 1: We just want to We just want to congratulate forever
Speaker 1: Dog for reading, for reading, and for just moving into
Speaker 1: this great space that is literally two blocks away from
Speaker 1: my apartment. Oh my god, that's privilege. That is that
Speaker 1: is privileged to be so close to the podcast studio.
Speaker 1: That's I I agree. I agree every time you walk
Speaker 1: in here and know that it's been really hard for
Speaker 1: me to get here from from forty minutes. Absolutely, and um,
Speaker 1: you know this is an oppression narrative for you and
Speaker 1: for noticing support you. But I can't fully ever experience
Speaker 1: what you are experienced, right, did you notice, um speaking
Speaker 1: of that, did you notice my entsemble today? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt walked in. He said, we're giving you full Anthony drag.
Speaker 1: Is that what you said? Something to that effect? It
Speaker 1: was it was those where and and our guest and
Speaker 1: I fully groaned. We said no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: and a small a small voice, but a mighty one,
Speaker 1: and I will not be silent. Well, let's let's get
Speaker 1: our guest. Free Anthony hashtag for Anthony from What, Free
Speaker 1: him from What? Bring him in? Let's read the credit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring him in. Here the credits, bitch. He
Speaker 1: hosts the monthly Shows, the Amazing Monthly Shows here in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: Future Forms and Stevie Future Forms at on a rotating
Speaker 1: uh list of venues, and Stevie at Our Wicked Lady,
Speaker 1: Amazing shows that We've both done, and Marsh Juwin Marsh
Speaker 1: and with Julio and Mary and Joe and this and
Speaker 1: this is the guy. This is the reason why he's on.
Speaker 1: We want him to talk about his incredible new solo show.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to see it. Oh my god, poster
Speaker 1: is amazing. Work on that. With a little help from
Speaker 1: Sisters Weekend, My Goal Love It and Gelo Club Comic
Speaker 1: y'all Club Comic, y'all, it's gonna be so good. You
Speaker 1: guys in the Union Hall March seven at eight p m. Honey,
Speaker 1: get your tickets now, they're going to go I Live.
Speaker 1: I'll be there and they're gonna go betch I'll be
Speaker 1: there as well. Okay, so please two days after my birthday, Saw,
Speaker 1: I'm making it my birthday party. Please welcome our guest,
Speaker 1: Sam Tagger. Oh my gosh, Hello, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for having me. This is a true honor and a
Speaker 1: pleasure time. He's our third two timer and this is historic,
Speaker 1: this is huge. Okay, Sam, what do you think about Anthony?
Speaker 1: Let's let's get it. Thank you. He when you were like,
Speaker 1: what is he guilty of, it's like truly murdered. He is.
Speaker 1: It's not whether he killed before, it's where he hit
Speaker 1: the bodies. He is a you can see it in
Speaker 1: his eyes. This is the sixth or seventh time I've
Speaker 1: heard this, and now I'm realizing it's not just like
Speaker 1: a funny joke every one's making. It's a belief that
Speaker 1: he's a murderer for real. This is real. This is
Speaker 1: It was an immediate like I saw him come on
Speaker 1: screen and I was like, I felt the fear strike
Speaker 1: my heart. I understand barking birds, birds started hitting the
Speaker 1: windows in effect, I'll say, she no, is it? What
Speaker 1: is it? A look in his eyes, the smirk, it's
Speaker 1: the tone, there's just like it's still like handsomeness. That's like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is a trap. And someone pointed
Speaker 1: out to me that the way he says a rapa
Speaker 1: and I didn't notice this, but the way he says
Speaker 1: a rape I don't know exactly how he said it.
Speaker 1: So this is still some work that I have to do.
Speaker 1: But is the right way that you're supposed to say it? Um,
Speaker 1: like if we're gonna work with Spans language is very complicated,
Speaker 1: and it's absolutely complicated, but I believe a rapa is
Speaker 1: the Spanish way to pronounce it. Crazy thing to be
Speaker 1: on record for. I think he may have it pronounced
Speaker 1: it like arepa pay like some insane way to pronounce
Speaker 1: it way that he called. I'm willing to look past
Speaker 1: the mispronunciation. Like I read your article today and then
Speaker 1: writing you know, I couldn't help but disagree with everything
Speaker 1: you thought. Everything I thought? Yes, okay, did you agree
Speaker 1: with anything I thought of it? Thank you. I knew
Speaker 1: what I was walking into today. I knew the way
Speaker 1: the tides would turn, and I will say this, I
Speaker 1: refused to be bullied or silenced US hashtag free Anthony.
Speaker 1: We are a minority in this country and this is
Speaker 1: the year of minorities being heard where he love Anthony,
Speaker 1: listened to us free Anthony hashtag free Antony. To me,
Speaker 1: it's like, I truly was just like who cast him?
Speaker 1: Like what? Honey? If you look at his fucking IMDb page,
Speaker 1: it's full of the d list roles like he was
Speaker 1: an actor, the list roles. I would kill for those credits. Okay,
Speaker 1: the blacklist, honey, the Blacklist, Like I'm saying, like under fives,
Speaker 1: like he's like at my level, our level, all of ours,
Speaker 1: this stupid bitch, and I'm not. I'm not trapesing around
Speaker 1: Georgia being like, what's a thirst trap? Look at this?
Speaker 1: It's a great Did he not know what a thirst
Speaker 1: trap was? I don't remember that. Don't cast him then,
Speaker 1: like it's insane. I think it's genius. I think he
Speaker 1: obviously has us talking, you know, the person who had
Speaker 1: us talking this way became its awful. He's bringing down
Speaker 1: the dialogue to a level where it shouldn't be. He's
Speaker 1: shitting on queer for the straight guy's legacy. Are you
Speaker 1: a fan? You know? Slightly? Okay? This TV show used
Speaker 1: to be the highest gay makeover show in the land.
Speaker 1: Now it's this great. Oh my god, Fine, you know
Speaker 1: what's the gold standard property brothers. I'm not familiar, you knows,
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the concept. I'm just saying like I'm
Speaker 1: coming into this as like, you know, not super familiar
Speaker 1: with makeover shows in general. But you know what you're
Speaker 1: feeling exactly. And I love the other four, love them
Speaker 1: and love you know what. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: love Anthony Fellow Canadian love him. But this is a
Speaker 1: question that I have. We know that he's a good person,
Speaker 1: right because now let's getting to the point where like
Speaker 1: people are like, we hate him, and then you never
Speaker 1: know what these people on the Twitter on the instant
Speaker 1: what does what does these people mean? People comments, people
Speaker 1: who comment like you don't comment, I don't comment. I did.
Speaker 1: I will cop to this. I will cop to this.
Speaker 1: I did send Tan a message what Tan got on
Speaker 1: his instant story and was discussing how he was getting
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of crazy d ms about how
Speaker 1: people were disappointed that they went on Megan kelly show.
Speaker 1: They were like, why did you go on macan Kelly's show?
Speaker 1: And so he took two inst the story and he
Speaker 1: was like, Hi, guys, a lot of you are d
Speaker 1: m NG asking why we did Megan Kelly um, it
Speaker 1: was to reach an audience. It's not about like whose
Speaker 1: show it is, It's about the audience that we can
Speaker 1: reach on our show. Is in a rare position to
Speaker 1: do that. And then he goes and I just also
Speaker 1: want to say that a lot of what you guys
Speaker 1: are saying is absolutely disgusting, and so I really wanted
Speaker 1: to address that because it's really gross and nobody ever
Speaker 1: deserves to be talked about this way. And I commented,
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you for doing that. That was good.
Speaker 1: I was like, that is a little period that any
Speaker 1: that that that's the thing that you have to end
Speaker 1: on for every kind of statement, like you know, thing
Speaker 1: like that where you're just like, also, by the way,
Speaker 1: did you ever say that? I hope people can find
Speaker 1: the distinction between lovingly talking about something because you're obsessed
Speaker 1: with it and it's a gen genuinely a good thing
Speaker 1: and generally a good thing in your life and like
Speaker 1: hatred so and he's a good person, but Sam, what's
Speaker 1: the over and under on him being an actual serial?
Speaker 1: He's like, that would fall under bad person for me personally.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we don't. He's doing like
Speaker 1: a dexter thing where he's like killing only criminals. Like
Speaker 1: he definitely has the thirst for blood, and like, I
Speaker 1: don't like on a base level thing, the thirst for
Speaker 1: blood is like a bad thing. Process. Who's someone with
Speaker 1: a thirst for blood? That's great, Tanya Harding, Tanya and
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's talk about Oh, let's talk about
Speaker 1: miss Morosa. Oh wow, um, we don't. We don't actually
Speaker 1: have to have a conversation about this. Omar Rosa though,
Speaker 1: is spilling all the teams. She's spilling all the tea
Speaker 1: she is she changing in your public Okay, good, but again,
Speaker 1: just checking on the tithe She's doing a slight service
Speaker 1: and it barely balances out all the horrible things she's Yeah,
Speaker 1: all of that. Like when people are like, actually I
Speaker 1: made a mistake, it's like you knew it was obvious before.
Speaker 1: It wasn't some trick, it was plain. Also, I just
Speaker 1: want to say and no, I'm gonna say that, man,
Speaker 1: I don't think the honey. Okay, that's great to know
Speaker 1: there's that passion in the room, though, And I stopped
Speaker 1: myself and I I'm going to organize my thoughts a
Speaker 1: little bit more. That's so cool. It's so cool like
Speaker 1: watching him articulate that point. Yeah, I mean taught me
Speaker 1: about language really probably, Yeah, absolutely, I'm sure Bowen's right.
Speaker 1: I would never question Bowen when it comes to languages
Speaker 1: than he knows so many SAMs and to think that
Speaker 1: English is his third language. Crazy, Yeah it is, that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm just accepting that I'm doing. Do you think that's
Speaker 1: the most amazing thing about you? Yes? Completely? But you
Speaker 1: know what, I was just talking to someone at work
Speaker 1: about this and she speaks fluent French and um every time,
Speaker 1: the same, same, same sime. Now I'm I am copying
Speaker 1: to just not actually knowing my French anymore, and I
Speaker 1: need to get better at it. If anyone wants to
Speaker 1: help me immerse um, you know, let me know if it.
Speaker 1: Even if it was Anthony, who knows some of his
Speaker 1: you know, French Canadian, I don't know. That could be
Speaker 1: what makes you guys best friend. I think you guys
Speaker 1: would really bond over him teaching you French. That would
Speaker 1: be nice. And maybe you could teach him how to cook.
Speaker 1: What if it's a win a date with Tad Hamilton's scenario,
Speaker 1: which is often a scenario that I think about, where
Speaker 1: Anthony sees you and falls in love with you. What
Speaker 1: do you keep your take from now? Or do you
Speaker 1: go along for the ride like a magic carpet. I
Speaker 1: think in order to make the narrative more compelling and
Speaker 1: to have conflict there, I need to resist his advances
Speaker 1: like Kate Bosworth exactly, and I need to be like
Speaker 1: no Anthony, I wrote, I've written about how much I
Speaker 1: dislike you. I could never this can never work. This
Speaker 1: actually is a good rom conference this wait has this
Speaker 1: been done? Like where viewer fucking hates someone meets that person?
Speaker 1: Is that you've got male ish familiar familiar? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it sounds familiar, but you know what, that's always
Speaker 1: a good idea when it seems familiar. But then you
Speaker 1: find out no one's done it. Yes, yes, yes, and
Speaker 1: so um yeah third act, you know what happens, Um,
Speaker 1: instead of an airport chase, it's it's a drone doc chase.
Speaker 1: I'm about to port to drone. That's amazing, that's really cool.
Speaker 1: That's really that really makes it current? Yeah yeah, So anyway, um,
Speaker 1: who's casting it? Who's casting in? I can't do the work.
Speaker 1: You guys. Do my god, what I want to see
Speaker 1: be funny? You know the time that movie is going
Speaker 1: to be really also have really funny moments. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is like her getting off the drone is going
Speaker 1: to be such a funny moment. Oh my god, Sandra Bullock.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so this is not based on me and
Speaker 1: and it worked straight? Yeah, it should be straight, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because that way it's like, you know, people don't like
Speaker 1: watching I know that. Yeah, yeah, I definitely like would
Speaker 1: love for like you to play your sign No, but
Speaker 1: I think Sandra Bullock would just like she would want
Speaker 1: to fun. She'd be so fun coming off the drone
Speaker 1: that I just picked. I would want to cast Anthony
Speaker 1: as himself, but he doesn't have much experience any over
Speaker 1: five lines, so I don't know. Yeah, no, I think
Speaker 1: we take the risk. Yeah you gotta. I mean those
Speaker 1: people that are gonna see it, they're gonna see the
Speaker 1: blood lust. And it's not that I'd have a problem
Speaker 1: with that. It's just like like they will yeah kind
Speaker 1: of not buy a totally polarizing you know, how would
Speaker 1: it do overseas? How would it do internet? Right? And
Speaker 1: think about that where they make their money. Absolutely everything.
Speaker 1: Every Hollywood boardroom, everyone always brings up China. Now it's
Speaker 1: this is true. Every action movie you have to have
Speaker 1: a car chase in South Korea that ends in a gunfight.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to have that. Also, that's
Speaker 1: a Black Panther reference. I also not a spoiler alert. Um,
Speaker 1: I still love how in Black Panther even though some
Speaker 1: of it takes place in South Korea, the Asian people,
Speaker 1: the Asian character still relegated to just being like fish women,
Speaker 1: like fish, fish sales. Fish not a fish women in
Speaker 1: the real sense, because you can believe that in the world,
Speaker 1: but they are fish. Damn it. She's a bouncer and
Speaker 1: she's a bouncer and find she like is cool with
Speaker 1: Andy circus fish women. I'm gonna just go ahead and
Speaker 1: say front runner for a title of that so far,
Speaker 1: the front runner, because every after every episode we kind
Speaker 1: of like have a moment where we disagree about the
Speaker 1: title of Epps so far. I just want to check
Speaker 1: him with everyone. Fish women, Yes, Sam, why don't you
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about Club Comic. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: what we're gagged for. So club comic is this show?
Speaker 1: So I you know, a couple of years ago, I
Speaker 1: made this track called X song. There was a club
Speaker 1: track where I speak because I famously can't sing, so
Speaker 1: you know, I spoke over a techno beat and the
Speaker 1: UM sort of an exploration into that world again UM
Speaker 1: with UM, you know, a fuller concept of being a
Speaker 1: club party pop star and making a bunch of tracks.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a throwback to like you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Musto. It's like it's a little it's a little
Speaker 1: party monster but modernized but with a comedic bent infused
Speaker 1: into stand up. Is that is this an accurate description?
Speaker 1: I think that's a very accurate description. Is trying to
Speaker 1: find that mark between Paris Hilton's drunk text and LCD
Speaker 1: sound systems losing my edge. Okay, that's beautiful, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's very visual. And here's the thing though, with Sam
Speaker 1: knows rhythm, and this is what separates Sam from let's
Speaker 1: say I Countess Luan doing um jeake say Levy. It's
Speaker 1: um that Sam has an understanding of rhythm because he
Speaker 1: is a drummer. This is true. This is fact. I
Speaker 1: didn't know you were a drummer, didn't from my bulging
Speaker 1: But you're not walking around drumming. That's true, that you're
Speaker 1: not going out to the club's drumming. I don't advertise
Speaker 1: as such. Yeah, you advertise as mostly comic and friend yes, um,
Speaker 1: but drumming. Have you been doing that your whole life? Uh? No?
Speaker 1: I started in college. Uh taught Yeah. Yeah, rhythm a natural.
Speaker 1: It was a natural fit. And I would play with
Speaker 1: my friends. And then I moved to New York and
Speaker 1: played in a couple of bands for a little bit
Speaker 1: and it was interesting. Yes, of course, any interest in
Speaker 1: revisiting that M sort of. I sort of am. But
Speaker 1: the music scene is like way more serious and I
Speaker 1: am not I'm good at that. What is the music
Speaker 1: scene anyway anymore? I don't know. I actually I am
Speaker 1: so disconnected honestly at this point, I am also extremely disconnected. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, like and also, how you get
Speaker 1: started in the music industry. That's so bizarre. When like
Speaker 1: at NT Want You, they had that really weird Clive
Speaker 1: Davis recorded music like concentration. It was like a school
Speaker 1: and you guy, guess could learn to be a pop star.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I mean, like, um, somebody was
Speaker 1: in it. No, they're not coming to my host really
Speaker 1: is that it's Maggie Rogers. Have you heard Maggie Rogers.
Speaker 1: And the thing is she wasn't even the one I
Speaker 1: was thinking about. I'm still not landing on this other one.
Speaker 1: But I know that some oak it's like a chantelle types.
Speaker 1: Oh no, like it's like an R and B singer.
Speaker 1: I'm just not landing on. Well, do they teach the
Speaker 1: students at the Clive Davis fucking thing how to you know,
Speaker 1: make themselves more palatable to a wide audience like they
Speaker 1: did Whitney. Um, I think they do teach branding, by
Speaker 1: the way, and now she's like trapped, She's like she's
Speaker 1: got deals. I do want to say everyone should read
Speaker 1: this New York Times piece about how Clive Davis destroyed Whitney. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm extremely anti Davis is a monster. He Well, there
Speaker 1: was the documentary about Whitney about How which basically said,
Speaker 1: you know, she left lived her life closeted sexually. Whether
Speaker 1: she was bisexual or a lesbian is up for debate,
Speaker 1: but she wasn't a long relationship with this woman that
Speaker 1: was the love of her life, Robin and um, it
Speaker 1: was extremely hidden from the public eye, and most of
Speaker 1: that had to do with two people, which was her
Speaker 1: mother who was very religious and very controlling, and Clive
Speaker 1: who was like focused on making her the biggest pop
Speaker 1: diva in the world. And you just couldn't be in
Speaker 1: the same sex relationship and be that. And so Clive Davis,
Speaker 1: who we find out later on is himself closet and
Speaker 1: who and he just came out, I mean a few
Speaker 1: years ago, and like there we go. So so think
Speaker 1: about that. Think about someone who stays closeted sexually for
Speaker 1: eighty five years, Like that's who we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1: So that's how little he cared about the artists. He
Speaker 1: didn't care about himself. So like he really kind of
Speaker 1: like fucked Whitney up. I think that he knew. I
Speaker 1: don't know, this is like alleged, but it was pretty
Speaker 1: common knowledge as she was doing drugs, etcetera. Also, he
Speaker 1: had like a big public fight with Kelly Clarkson. There
Speaker 1: was an entire chapter of his book that was like
Speaker 1: she sucks to work with. Not sure if she would
Speaker 1: have made it in the music industry with that American idol.
Speaker 1: She was a cry baby over songs that I picked
Speaker 1: for her and and made her a huge star. She
Speaker 1: didn't want to sing them. Her instincts were always wrong.
Speaker 1: I was always right, not think she says it's true.
Speaker 1: She comes out with a statement and she's like, no, actually,
Speaker 1: fuck this, I'm not gonna lie down and take this.
Speaker 1: He's lying. He's misremembering incidents here, specifically what happened. And
Speaker 1: then she wrote like about specific incidents and mistakes that
Speaker 1: he's making in his book. So she like fully went
Speaker 1: up against him and and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people really respect her for that because I think he
Speaker 1: has done this with a lot of artists over time.
Speaker 1: I think people understand that what she's doing is speaking
Speaker 1: truth to power in a real way. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why she's so supportive in the music industry, because
Speaker 1: people know she's a great singer and she speaks up.
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson is an icon, and you know what, you know,
Speaker 1: I have ship talked to her in the past, and
Speaker 1: that's actually why I did this. You know what, I'm
Speaker 1: going to continue to shop talk her in the future
Speaker 1: because it's it's very she's it's very fun to make
Speaker 1: fun of her. I sort of did on the last episode,
Speaker 1: did yeah, Well, I was saying that like as a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old, like, it's hard to hide you're gay
Speaker 1: when you're like my favorite singer is Kelly Clarkson, because
Speaker 1: people aren't going to be like, oh, he looks like
Speaker 1: Britney spears like he wants to like less hard, less
Speaker 1: easy to get away with that. When your favorite singer
Speaker 1: is Kelly Clarkson publicly at sixteen, she can get away
Speaker 1: with that a little bit. One time, my best friend
Speaker 1: at the time said I just wish she showed more
Speaker 1: skin and like gay man, and me like shivered when
Speaker 1: that happened. I was like, I hate to me. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that reads more like something that gay man would say.
Speaker 1: Now today, currently eight of culture is gay and we
Speaker 1: dress up as them, yes, and treat everyone like garbage,
Speaker 1: Like every day is like straightboy Halloween. We're always dressing up.
Speaker 1: It is it is, Sam, You've written some new materials,
Speaker 1: new songs, materials. I have six maybe seven new trash. Yes. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've worked with a couple of producers. So I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for the me. I'm really excited, and
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of mesh. I think we're
Speaker 1: saying it's it's like a throwback to nineties culture. I
Speaker 1: really love like the photos and just I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I also think it's genius to have you spell out
Speaker 1: the words of the title. His body is like, couldn't
Speaker 1: wart it to spell the letters, that's amazing. He showed
Speaker 1: me an early, rough raw photo of it. Did you
Speaker 1: get it? Because I did? Because you know what I said,
Speaker 1: I go, this is this is so cool? This is
Speaker 1: like was And I didn't even ask this is I
Speaker 1: didn't even say this is like? I said, are you
Speaker 1: referencing Rue Paul's Viva Glam campaign for mac and the
Speaker 1: nineties And the answer was yes, deeply. But that was
Speaker 1: that was Sisters Weekend's idea. Fully. They came up with
Speaker 1: the design and they shot the photos. And I saw
Speaker 1: you the day that the same day, No, no, the
Speaker 1: day after you shot, because you still had silver pain on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I painted my entire body of silver and it's there's
Speaker 1: still some in my ears. That's its nast You know,
Speaker 1: you might take care of that yourself. Sam is famously
Speaker 1: a stinker, which means he this is true. I was
Speaker 1: learning this would come up today because I don't come
Speaker 1: up on the first time, not come up. It did
Speaker 1: not come up Sam's stay the stinker, which means that
Speaker 1: he is um let's say, very sparing about just personal hygiene.
Speaker 1: I would say is that he's a minimalist. There is
Speaker 1: a fear of products or a fear of conforming the hygiene.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because it's like one, it's my own, you know, special brand.
Speaker 1: People know what I'm coming and when did you start?
Speaker 1: Like where do you stop? I'm worried about the slippery
Speaker 1: slope aspect of taking care of myself. Well, your fragrance
Speaker 1: be called if you could just give everyone like what
Speaker 1: your scent is, like, what your vibe is, like, what's
Speaker 1: the fragrance? How do you brand it? I feel like
Speaker 1: it would be called like like I think it's salty, salty.
Speaker 1: I think it's called stinker crust prep. Oh my god, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's the one, my personal Brandon crust prep. Because like
Speaker 1: if you saw be like he's clean, yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is privilege that is looking clean, but being crusty bitch.
Speaker 1: Mine would be called beachy, but you wouldn't know if
Speaker 1: it would be bitchy or literally beachy, like the Long
Speaker 1: Island that's fun. That's fun. You have to say it
Speaker 1: like that. But when what's your sent mine would be
Speaker 1: called um thesaurus because there's something else you could get,
Speaker 1: Because that would be a little bit better. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're feeling because there's something else you can get, they'd
Speaker 1: be a little bit better. In a descriptory, more specific,
Speaker 1: also sort of off, sort of off the mark, like
Speaker 1: that's not the one, and you keep coming back to me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thesaurus now I want to talk about It could be
Speaker 1: a good dinosaur too, It could be a great dinosaurs thesaurus.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think I saw a thesaurus in
Speaker 1: Jurassic World three or two. Oh my god. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: like a popsicle stick joke for like a ten year old.
Speaker 1: The saurus emerges as a contender for title Crust. It's
Speaker 1: also in the race. Oh baby, you know what, let
Speaker 1: me just let me just pull back a little. I
Speaker 1: I'm loving the vibe of the new space so much.
Speaker 1: It's very casual in a good way. Sorry, I know
Speaker 1: we've like already getting up on you on the anthony.
Speaker 1: That's fine, you know what. By all it means, literally,
Speaker 1: my haters make me stronger. Kisses to my critics like Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like black panther suit, you know, like wow exactly.
Speaker 1: But um, when I walked in, I was like gorgeous.
Speaker 1: When Bone walked in, he was like stunning. And the
Speaker 1: first thing said when when you walked in with needs work,
Speaker 1: I'm a bit, I'm a famous bitch. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's why I look up to Adam ra Pond. This
Speaker 1: is what I think about. This is what I think about. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's a famous bitch. He calls himself a bit, but
Speaker 1: like he's like bit, like winky, like I'm not really
Speaker 1: I think deeply there's someone there. This is what I've
Speaker 1: been saying. That is someone who knows where he wants
Speaker 1: to sit in the restaurant. Like he walks in, he says,
Speaker 1: we want to sit outside by the water. And if
Speaker 1: there's no water, you fucking dig a hole and put
Speaker 1: water in it. And you get a little like Adam
Speaker 1: Ripon wants to sit next to the water. I like,
Speaker 1: do not see that. I see more like he's trying
Speaker 1: to be Like I think he's trying so hard to
Speaker 1: be like hashtag relatable gay and that like it's like
Speaker 1: he's doing like just enough bitchy to be like, but
Speaker 1: you don't think who he really is is like someone
Speaker 1: who wants He's probably like he would be like a
Speaker 1: monster to the help, but um, you know his whole
Speaker 1: thing in a fun, mainstream way. That's debatable because I
Speaker 1: feel I was like, you know, Adam, I'm approaching at
Speaker 1: him the same way I remember urging Anthony, which is
Speaker 1: coming from a place of love and acceptance. But the
Speaker 1: moment that I had disengaged from from how I remember
Speaker 1: this moment remembers this moment? Now you don't I remember this.
Speaker 1: I when when sucking Adam did that press conference where
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm still getting used to being like
Speaker 1: America's sweetheart. I was like, fucking yeah. I thought he
Speaker 1: was unapologetic. I thought you were gonna like, I actually
Speaker 1: like that far that's when I'm in. When I'm not
Speaker 1: in is like the part I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: bring this up was they were like on the on
Speaker 1: the scale of this, Elmo, how excited are you when
Speaker 1: he goes Meryl Street. I didn't get that. That didn't
Speaker 1: read for me. That was the moment because I was like,
Speaker 1: he was glitch. He was totally Glitchen glitch. To spit
Speaker 1: out because and then the world the reporter was like
Speaker 1: that doesn't really makes no, no, and then he goes
Speaker 1: and then like the reporters like okay, and then he
Speaker 1: goes if that makes sense, and then the reporters like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it does. Was that she was she
Speaker 1: I loved her, was like escaped. We need her as
Speaker 1: a guest. I mean, look, Adam's great, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: insane work out. He is representing bitches, not LGBT. LGBT
Speaker 1: community is confused that he's representing them. Now he's representing bitches, okay,
Speaker 1: which is another oppressive minority. Absolutely, it's time we're here,
Speaker 1: Guy Brandam. Guy Branda has been chastising me over text,
Speaker 1: being like why are you on board with him? He's
Speaker 1: he's representing all of us. He wants to we haven't
Speaker 1: been seen in the past. He's he's showing everybody what
Speaker 1: it's like to be seen, blah blah blah, which I
Speaker 1: sort of get. But then he sent me a screenshot
Speaker 1: first of all of like a Lewis Vertel tweet, and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, what and then it was an
Speaker 1: Adam upon tweet. It was too like like you're sad,
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, it was fine. It was just like
Speaker 1: I was like what wait what am I know? It
Speaker 1: was just a moment of like wait what am I reading? Um?
Speaker 1: But it was like Adam quote tweeting someone who was
Speaker 1: sent who tweeted at him? Who even is Adam Rappon?
Speaker 1: And then Adam Rapon quote tweeted that to say, I
Speaker 1: don't know who isn't And I'm like, that's also something
Speaker 1: that that doesn't make sense, like we thinking they might
Speaker 1: not be with it. He might not get it, he
Speaker 1: might not be he might be a little bit of
Speaker 1: an antony it deeply. Anthony has a great personality. He's fun,
Speaker 1: he gets it, he gets the joke. Fine, fine, fine,
Speaker 1: No one with a great personality. There's two strokes t
Speaker 1: shirts in that season eight episodes like how did we
Speaker 1: drink that? They do? Wardrobe should have been like wait
Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute, Antony, you have another one
Speaker 1: of this that you wore on Tuesday. You don't think
Speaker 1: wardrobe dressed him themselves. I don't know. Wow, use your
Speaker 1: thinking cap bo. You've been on sets, you famously as
Speaker 1: much as Anthony. You've been on sets. You bring your
Speaker 1: own ship, not always most of the time. Honey, No, honey, okay,
Speaker 1: the fit you, they fit me. They ever keep you,
Speaker 1: ever keep the clothes. No, I'm not to do with
Speaker 1: my Sara dests like a sorry Sarah. I wish I
Speaker 1: I think about that. I thought about that. Does Sarah
Speaker 1: keep all the close from character? There's a legend that
Speaker 1: she she kept a lot of the clothes from Sex
Speaker 1: in the City, And I want to I want to
Speaker 1: get that aspiration where I'm like, oh my god, no
Speaker 1: one stunning. We love um. And that's a call back
Speaker 1: to our first episode, which was Sex in the City theme,
Speaker 1: which is the one we did. It's called Sex the
Speaker 1: City and Sex in the City, which is like a
Speaker 1: semite is m I feel? Yes, it's close. Sam. How
Speaker 1: are you dealing with this? With this? This s a
Speaker 1: t C news Oh the falling drama. God, I mean
Speaker 1: it's I mean team s JP always. It's like clear
Speaker 1: that controls like a little. Have you seen that YouTube
Speaker 1: video of her like in her husband in their apartment?
Speaker 1: It see I might know that like disqualifies her from
Speaker 1: some like jobs in no way, no way. I love
Speaker 1: that video. See that videos. She is an artist. She's
Speaker 1: an artist, and people forget that like what she did
Speaker 1: with that part, like kim control is incredible. Like that's
Speaker 1: the thing that sucks about the whole thing is you
Speaker 1: don't want it to get to a point where it's
Speaker 1: like someone takes sides and then it's like the other
Speaker 1: one for good because people do that with women. So
Speaker 1: but but here's a take I have is she's grieving,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like her brother fucking died,
Speaker 1: Like I think emotionally, she was dealing with the s
Speaker 1: JP like drama in the media, like they I think
Speaker 1: they both were thinking about it a lot, and then
Speaker 1: this fucking came out of nowhere and it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about this anymore, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do something crazy like screenshot at that and posted it
Speaker 1: was nuts. But also, but you understand where that's coming from.
Speaker 1: I think, course sympathy on both sides absolutely, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone gets along. And I'm a bit for
Speaker 1: for starting this conversation and being like for you know,
Speaker 1: entertaining the idea of doing this conversation, because it is
Speaker 1: fun to be like it is like like like put
Speaker 1: the anthem the anthony thing. It's fun to like bitterally
Speaker 1: take a strong side at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Like I have love for both of them because they
Speaker 1: both like are fucking awesome. I've always say s JP
Speaker 1: underrated actress, very good, actress, very talented. I started divorce
Speaker 1: last week. I had to stop after like four ups
Speaker 1: because me and me and she got the like puts truly,
Speaker 1: we just like tensed up and like we just started bickering.
Speaker 1: I actually started watching it at the end of Henry
Speaker 1: and his relationship to and it may be very in
Speaker 1: my head, I was like, oh my god, because a
Speaker 1: lot of it, Yeah, it's like whoa, it's shit, this
Speaker 1: is real. And you know, I wasn't really a Thomas
Speaker 1: Hayden Church fan. I've never I've never connected, but this
Speaker 1: like he plays it in such a specific way that
Speaker 1: he really does like you buy it. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know Thomas Hayden Church. He's got a style that's I
Speaker 1: think maybe in the wrong movie like you don't buy
Speaker 1: but like in this show, I'm really feeling it. The
Speaker 1: chemistry between them is believable. She's got some genuinely funny
Speaker 1: communic moments. Even in the pilot, the first scene where
Speaker 1: she like flips him the bird as he's walking away.
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, yeah, so good. But there was the
Speaker 1: last scene that she has in the first season, Um oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't want to ruin it for you outside.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, okay, it's good. She just
Speaker 1: has a great moment at the end when you're like
Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica part for life, for life Life, Sam, Yes,
Speaker 1: will you shoot a music video for one of the
Speaker 1: tracks for a club comment? Because you gotta be visual.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know these days you have to be
Speaker 1: you want to keep up at um. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I would like to, but it requires so
Speaker 1: much work, and you know, in this industry, because you
Speaker 1: have to get a choreographer, you gotta get a choreographer.
Speaker 1: I mean, lights are like I was gonna say, big,
Speaker 1: who has the money? Yeah, I mean it's insane. I
Speaker 1: remember like paying for like like we used to do
Speaker 1: that a lot, Like you pay like what was it
Speaker 1: like to fifty for a music video and like it
Speaker 1: looks shitty, but you're proud of it because it happened
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, which is something to be proud of.
Speaker 1: But it's like like thinking about getting into that again.
Speaker 1: It's like so much so much because I haven't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't had to think about that in a while
Speaker 1: because and which which is just me not not me
Speaker 1: being like oh like I've moved on from that. It's
Speaker 1: just that like I've never you know, I just I
Speaker 1: just don't want to deal with that ever. And that's
Speaker 1: we did it a lot, right, How did you guys
Speaker 1: do so many VIDs? Well, there was several of us,
Speaker 1: so we all pitched in a little bit. But I
Speaker 1: totally disengaged, right, Like I wasn't that involved in the
Speaker 1: video production. I would say like, well you did what
Speaker 1: what you did so well for popular lett which is
Speaker 1: like contribute like visually, and you were also an amazing
Speaker 1: performer in the group. Like I think everyone like had
Speaker 1: like different but like in terms of money, like we
Speaker 1: all through like and got something. I wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: I was engaged in the I wasn't like thinking about
Speaker 1: like you know, we're we're locations where ye like that
Speaker 1: is a nightmare. That's tough you have to have, like
Speaker 1: in order to be a producer, like Dave Mazzone has
Speaker 1: that Dave has, but not everyone has that instinct, which
Speaker 1: is like as a producer, it's sucking a lot of work.
Speaker 1: It's so much uncomfortable. It's like being annoying to everyone. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the job, and it's like I can't do that.
Speaker 1: I have to be loved, and especially like being comfortable
Speaker 1: asking for favors because you are every time. Yeah always,
Speaker 1: because if you actually got a location, you're paying so
Speaker 1: much money. Yeah yeah, yeah, there's got to be something
Speaker 1: that's like thrown in there because you looked at her
Speaker 1: it was free somehow. I mean, you know, like the location.
Speaker 1: It was like your dad's offense. Oh my dad has
Speaker 1: like a building we could use. That's me. Finish your joke,
Speaker 1: um a girl sing. I even hate when people post
Speaker 1: on Facebook like looking for an office, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't like this is for seeing this? I know. I
Speaker 1: think also oftentimes people know exactly where to find those
Speaker 1: things and they just post them publicly so it doesn't
Speaker 1: know they're blogging them. But it's like, okay, oh I
Speaker 1: don't know. Also who the am I to said, I
Speaker 1: don't know how it is, Well, you've been here, say it.
Speaker 1: I've been out here and I know people you know
Speaker 1: know where the locations are. You should start commenting that.
Speaker 1: I quit Facebook so this is about a week. We're
Speaker 1: at the week mark. How are you feeling. I'm feeling
Speaker 1: pretty good. Do you have a goal time period that
Speaker 1: you're having for Yeah, I just want to like until
Speaker 1: I feel like I can go back to it and
Speaker 1: it won't be distracting to me because it what what
Speaker 1: I think was a problem was like it was in
Speaker 1: my life as this thing I did instead of work,
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't writing new stuff. I was just getting
Speaker 1: caught up in like things that don't matter, like arguing
Speaker 1: about whatever headline it happens to be that week or whatever,
Speaker 1: like bullshit dramas happening instead of doing the work. It's
Speaker 1: just a distraction. So so far, so good. It's been
Speaker 1: good for me and that respect, I'm so impressed. But
Speaker 1: it's hard to not like, you know, I know, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's there. It's impossible. You're also not missing much. No,
Speaker 1: the quality has gone down. Its website. It's where people
Speaker 1: go when they have a bad feeling to share, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something to complain about. Yeah, it truly is not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no like variable reward anymore to go back and
Speaker 1: to be like, what's going to happen now? You know?
Speaker 1: It's also it's like, what am I gonna get out
Speaker 1: of it this time? When that's gone? I mean, And
Speaker 1: also there's the argument that it's like, oh sorry, that
Speaker 1: like the reality of the news and every thing isn't
Speaker 1: like exciting and fun for you. That's also fun. I
Speaker 1: think Facebook is great to like engage with people, but
Speaker 1: when you have to make a personal choice for like
Speaker 1: your mental well being, like let people do that, like
Speaker 1: I'll engage in the way I want you on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram. Oh my god, the people who are guilds
Speaker 1: you into like engaging with certain news stories like I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know how present that is very it's
Speaker 1: very present, but I just it's it's there. There's there's
Speaker 1: such a weird problem with that that I haven't been
Speaker 1: able to verbalize. But anyway, Um, it's pleak, It's it's bullying.
Speaker 1: It's bullying and simple and we have you watched any
Speaker 1: of Top Model No, okay, really getting bad? Um, it's
Speaker 1: just a bad show. And it it dumps down, it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't respect it's audience, it talks down to its audience.
Speaker 1: It's just a bat show. But that's what made me
Speaker 1: literally the word bullying for me triggered Top Model. The
Speaker 1: episode was like a out bullying and it was so
Speaker 1: dumb and it was so crazy because the last scene
Speaker 1: of the show is literally tired Banks telling a girl
Speaker 1: she's a bad person and that and she doesn't really
Speaker 1: deserve This girl isn't bullying anyone in the house. She
Speaker 1: doesn't have any friends because like her personality is a
Speaker 1: little tough to connect with, and she says things sometimes
Speaker 1: they're like conceited, but she's not anything. She's being bullied
Speaker 1: and ostracized, and Tyra is like speech to her at
Speaker 1: the end is like, in order to win this competition,
Speaker 1: you have to be a good person on the outside
Speaker 1: and the inside. And I think you're a good person
Speaker 1: on inside, but that isn't showing and you need to work.
Speaker 1: And it goes on and on, and then girl just
Speaker 1: eventually goes okay, I understand. She's like, okay, I'm cheap,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's and I was like, okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you go, Like and it's like, bitch, you just
Speaker 1: held this girl hostage and told her what a shitty person.
Speaker 1: You are a supermodel, you run this show, you're a mogul,
Speaker 1: you have everything this girl has very little. Let stand
Speaker 1: there and tell her that she's a bad person. That's
Speaker 1: breaking her, Like it doesn't matter her personality quirks at
Speaker 1: that point, like Tyra Banks is a bully, she is
Speaker 1: not good. It needs to be called out. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about because Sam two seconds ago said bebe let's talk
Speaker 1: about dark grace, dar grace. I like, what's that other word?
Speaker 1: Uh um? Oh like I'm sorry? What you know? Anthony
Speaker 1: says it? If he? Okay, so and he's on record
Speaker 1: for something different important to right? Okay, Um, we we know,
Speaker 1: we sort of know. I sort of know where you stand.
Speaker 1: We all do. We're all in this. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: as is just killing markedly improved, markedly improved. How does
Speaker 1: she do that? I don't think. I think. I think
Speaker 1: I think she is one of those queens who saw
Speaker 1: herself on TV and was like, oh wait I come
Speaker 1: off that way. Yeah. I think I think not all
Speaker 1: queens do that. She seems like a resilient person, Like
Speaker 1: I don't think it was easy on her when things were,
Speaker 1: you know, not good with her and Valentine. I think
Speaker 1: Valentina's fans probably came to destroy her, and I think
Speaker 1: you can respond to that in like one of two
Speaker 1: ways say, I don't care. I have this opportunity to
Speaker 1: be fierce, like let's be fierce, or you can literally
Speaker 1: fade away forever because it's too hard. And I feel
Speaker 1: like she chose to like get very fierce and level
Speaker 1: her pussy up. And I love that. I love that,
Speaker 1: so I think it's really powerful. And that's so powerful.
Speaker 1: I think mostly everyone else is really boring. Yes, and
Speaker 1: like Angela is like fine, like she's gonna win, but
Speaker 1: I don't care, Like who don't care about Angela? Hallelu No,
Speaker 1: I don't think hallelu is funny. I don't connect with
Speaker 1: people who don't think it's funny. Really, yeah, hallelu Really
Speaker 1: to me, it's like, what's funny about it? It's just
Speaker 1: a catch phrase. I think hollelu is so funny. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I love it. To me, it's like I'm
Speaker 1: not like a catchphrase queen either, Like I'm not like
Speaker 1: coming for the catchphrases, but I come in. This whole
Speaker 1: fucking podcast is a series of catchphrases. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Well, I'm just saying in my drag race contestants,
Speaker 1: it's not necessary. Whereas some queens you could argue are
Speaker 1: mostly catchphrase, okay, like Jocelyn Fox is like want want
Speaker 1: and not too and I love that catch phrase. But
Speaker 1: it was a large part of her. It was so
Speaker 1: sure she should have won his congeniality she was, but
Speaker 1: she got married instead, which was so nice. And I'm
Speaker 1: so tired of Ben winning, like been so good every time,
Speaker 1: and I'm not like he shouldn't have won, but i
Speaker 1: am like, who cares, I'm so bored. Yeah, they do
Speaker 1: something really interesting with Ben this episode. Oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: I have to tell you don't know this, but we've
Speaker 1: seen the episode. I love this about you guys. But
Speaker 1: also this is going to come out next week one.
Speaker 1: There will be another episode two. So this is all
Speaker 1: I have to reserve. We have to reserve comment on
Speaker 1: a lot of what you're saying. The thing, Ben, is
Speaker 1: that you can't really deny it, though, is the hardest part.
Speaker 1: You can't deny the competence, and that you can't deny
Speaker 1: that it's well done or even that you enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: the comp that that it's well done. I'm more like
Speaker 1: annoyed that the queens aren't better other than Ben, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, like, who did you want to be there?
Speaker 1: Who did I want to be there? Well, one wasn't
Speaker 1: William supposed to be there. I was sure, and I
Speaker 1: was like kind of excited because Willem really shakes things up.
Speaker 1: I see, I don't like I wanted kim Che to
Speaker 1: come back, like that would have been so fun, and like,
Speaker 1: I think she's gotten even more confident. She was good
Speaker 1: on her season and want I wanted to win. And
Speaker 1: then like, I don't know, all these queens seem like
Speaker 1: queens queens. That's the first time I've heard that. I mean,
Speaker 1: is that you're so nice. I think that they are
Speaker 1: philler queens because I think that if if you actually
Speaker 1: took the first ten seasons whatever, you would come back
Speaker 1: with a list that looked very close to the All
Speaker 1: Stars to cast. And I think that that says it all.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, if if they all were ineligible, we were,
Speaker 1: if we were doing All Stars right now, who will
Speaker 1: we pick? We'd pick Alaska, we would pick Detox, We'd
Speaker 1: pick a list to Edwards. I think, all right, because
Speaker 1: they sort of right dried the well with All Stars
Speaker 1: to exactly, and so I think, no matter what, All
Speaker 1: Stars three is not going to be All Stars too,
Speaker 1: because literally, you know, fucking Alaska and Alyssa aren't there,
Speaker 1: so so who's the next exciting? Like, I guess Trixie,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a CAMG. I would
Speaker 1: have loved to see leg. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: like can reveal secret Facebook group information, We'll try try it,
Speaker 1: do it. So you said something about Tricksie that I
Speaker 1: felt like was very accurate. Come on, he said that
Speaker 1: she's only funny because Katya laughs so much after everything
Speaker 1: she says. I really disagree, really yeah, because I actually
Speaker 1: think that for me, the best part of UM that
Speaker 1: show Trixy and Katya is Trixie reacting to what Katya does.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, but then to have her be in
Speaker 1: this um you know, she's just funny, she's to put
Speaker 1: she's in this little feedback loophole where it's like I'll
Speaker 1: say anything and Katya will cackle for like a fucking
Speaker 1: minute and all and and she just has time to
Speaker 1: sit there and silence and me like, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm killing I trust Katya. They're like if
Speaker 1: she like, she thinks it's funny, because it's fun funny,
Speaker 1: and just watching Katia react to it, the way she does,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, like to me, that's how i'd
Speaker 1: be reacting. That's how I react when you when you
Speaker 1: are turning it okay insane like wise, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, like with Katia, it's like you can it's
Speaker 1: she's she's her reactions are just so volatible and that
Speaker 1: like you don't know how strongly she will react on
Speaker 1: any given thing, and so she'll just be like it's
Speaker 1: the same. Like that was good. That was like just
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, like Katia, come on, like but
Speaker 1: maybe that's her actual physical response. Is crazy that Bowen
Speaker 1: isn't reading Katia, because you know, Bowen has done crazy
Speaker 1: things when it comes to Katia, and I has like
Speaker 1: ruined drag race. My god, I wasn't. I wasn't following.
Speaker 1: I was villainized that today I remember you, like begging
Speaker 1: for the community is respect again, I never stood. I've
Speaker 1: stood my ground, tunning. Yeah, it's crazy, is written apology gay,
Speaker 1: it's queer sports. And now people don't say, don't spoil
Speaker 1: the super Bowl results for me. Fuck you, it is
Speaker 1: not the same, and you deeply know it's not. I
Speaker 1: deeply know it is absolutely the same. And that people
Speaker 1: should fucking clock in its appointment television, gather around your support,
Speaker 1: your local gay night life, and go to the bars
Speaker 1: and watch it in real time. Honey, you have privileged
Speaker 1: now you have you walk into this room privilege. Yeah,
Speaker 1: telling people to go to bars when you have the screeners.
Speaker 1: Get out of here. I'm saying, no, oh my god, no, no. Anytime,
Speaker 1: anytime you both came after me during the Sometimes Sam
Speaker 1: and I get on the same side. We go. People
Speaker 1: were coming after me for being rich and for having
Speaker 1: a home theater. You the one percent and it's filthy.
Speaker 1: That was the best day of my entire life. I
Speaker 1: was so full of true joy. When you have to
Speaker 1: think about everything Bowen has, it's so disheartened. Just honey,
Speaker 1: up a day, bitch. My parents parents are immigrants. They
Speaker 1: worked every single scent and you know nothing of that struggle.
Speaker 1: I know everything. If you were born with the silver spoon, no, honey,
Speaker 1: a dang mouth unbelievable, bitch. If they had stayed in China,
Speaker 1: I would not have been born as a second child. Honey,
Speaker 1: and I live every vilege honoring, honoring the sacrifice they
Speaker 1: made that has that has paid dividends for them. In
Speaker 1: return that they they've they've reaped everything that they've sacrificed. Honey,
Speaker 1: I can hear all the listeners clocking the privilege. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I just getting their pens out down the time when
Speaker 1: they heard it. Wasn't crazy. They were so loud. All
Speaker 1: his coins, all sacra coins, just carries them around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, it's cool to remember that you were rich.
Speaker 1: I did know that, but I had forgotten briefly. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: abely Sam very wealthy. I would say, Sam is pretty wealthy.
Speaker 1: Oh you've her hush, not simply not. I think he
Speaker 1: certainly has a nice one bedroom. He does, Oh it's
Speaker 1: a oh yes, it's a two bedroom. I live with
Speaker 1: my lover. I walked in and I said, these people
Speaker 1: do very well. It's a well kept apartner. These people
Speaker 1: do very well. It has nothing to do with money.
Speaker 1: That's everything to do with their own taste and effort
Speaker 1: to maintain it. You know, we knew what we wanted
Speaker 1: and so we made the rights. Yeah beautiful. Yeah, living
Speaker 1: in New York is it's just it's a huge wow.
Speaker 1: You know, if you came over to my apartment, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, no one's been there. I don't know
Speaker 1: how people are going to react. I live in Greenpoint now,
Speaker 1: but it's just one I moved as of about two
Speaker 1: months ago. No way, yes, but he's like super close
Speaker 1: to the line. I'm very very close to Queens. Got it?
Speaker 1: But I was about to ask for the here right,
Speaker 1: Um but no, I love it, but like I'm curious
Speaker 1: to think because I don't necessarily know too much about
Speaker 1: style or like home to core, I could probably really identified, like, um,
Speaker 1: use a Bobby right now to like, I think it's nice.
Speaker 1: We could all use a Bobby, but me too, me most,
Speaker 1: But I think it's kind of nice in there. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure once like you and Dave come over and
Speaker 1: study comes over, I'm gonna be told something is egregiously wrong.
Speaker 1: I won't do that. No, no, no no, and not in
Speaker 1: a bad way, in an objective way. I'm just sure
Speaker 1: I've set it up in some way that's like obviously
Speaker 1: not right when it's just a big housewarming party. Come on,
Speaker 1: is it just you? Except we're having some problems with
Speaker 1: living facilities, like what like constantly water dripping down from
Speaker 1: my roof Rainforest Cafe. It's happened three times, you get one, Well,
Speaker 1: we worked it out with the problems were clear and
Speaker 1: they were fixed. But it was just like, this is
Speaker 1: happening a lot um because it's not good. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't want water leaking down from the ceiling in
Speaker 1: your apartment. No, no, no, maybe from the shower when
Speaker 1: you turn it on, but other than that, water shouldn't
Speaker 1: be coming down. No, we agree about that. That really happens.
Speaker 1: That really happened, you know, but it does. It does.
Speaker 1: It's really powerful and that's like, you know, it's honest,
Speaker 1: and that's like what's so important is friends being honest
Speaker 1: with you. If you can't be honest, Okay, let me
Speaker 1: ask you something then, queen, Okay, you are Jennifer Honeston's
Speaker 1: best friend right now, what do you tell her? I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry you're going through. I'm sure this is really
Speaker 1: hard and you know you're going to find the one
Speaker 1: and like, definitely, like I don't think it's your fault,
Speaker 1: but maybe reflect not necessarily exactly, but definitely like before
Speaker 1: you jump in next time, make sure it's right. So
Speaker 1: get this. If Jennifer est is your best friend, and
Speaker 1: like literally think of yourself like her best friend in
Speaker 1: this world, like in this world you are her best friend.
Speaker 1: She comes to you and says, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is fucking crazy. Brad texted me and what let's just
Speaker 1: act out the scenario. What do you say? He said,
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about you. What do I do to
Speaker 1: Why I haven't responded? En? You can't do this? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Jenn, text them back. No, Jen, I'd stop.
Speaker 1: You've made I want to say I love you. You
Speaker 1: have built your feel you should do that. You've built
Speaker 1: your whole public persona like deliberately around this like shitty
Speaker 1: idea about that that this shitty obsession with like your
Speaker 1: love life and your personal God, you're not making any
Speaker 1: sense I think I needed. In fact, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: him right now. Don't call that's too needy. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's too needy? Yeah? Okay, Yeah, I'll text text okay?
Speaker 1: Or should I email him? Should I have my agent
Speaker 1: email him? I don't know. That's so cold? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: makes you think that he he's not going to treat
Speaker 1: the same way that he treated you in the past
Speaker 1: or that he treated Angelina. You know, Um, I have
Speaker 1: a I have a really good feeling. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just got a lot of money from Apple to do
Speaker 1: my show. Wow, congrats. Oh yeah, I didn't know you
Speaker 1: got an Apple show. That's very really good and really
Speaker 1: confident because I've asked for what I wanted. But what
Speaker 1: was your contract? Like sucking ten millions? That crazy? Crazy?
Speaker 1: Now I'm feeling really confident, So I think I should
Speaker 1: text Brad that I love him and want to get
Speaker 1: back together. I think we should announce it right now. No,
Speaker 1: here's what you do. You have your agent, email his agent,
Speaker 1: get him cast on your Apple show. Then he'll fall
Speaker 1: in love with you naturally Brad style. Oh my god, Yes,
Speaker 1: Should I wear a wig so I can pretend it's
Speaker 1: not Maybe you could tell them it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know who's who has brown the hair. I honestly don't
Speaker 1: know anyone. I don't know any of them. All my
Speaker 1: friends are I would, but you guys are are Chelsea
Speaker 1: Handler and Chelsea Handler, so you guys are both blond.
Speaker 1: We don't know anyone who's brown hair or brown you
Speaker 1: know what? As Chelsea Handler, I will one day start
Speaker 1: like a mediocre Netflix documentary series where I surround myself
Speaker 1: with people of color just as as props and see
Speaker 1: great and we learned a lot. That's fun I would
Speaker 1: I want the transcript for that. I would tell it
Speaker 1: to John straight. I'd be like, no, John, No, it's
Speaker 1: crazy people are even thinking about I think that showed
Speaker 1: our difference really well, because like we've gained upon Matt
Speaker 1: so much today, and it's like this like show that
Speaker 1: we don't follow each other blindly. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's when you guys are not on the same page.
Speaker 1: It's very power. But here's the thing. What's the third
Speaker 1: iteration of this? Where Okay, So because the other two
Speaker 1: are Matt and I getting up on Sam or Sam
Speaker 1: and I getting up on a Mat No, no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The two iterations are Matt and
Speaker 1: Sam getting up on me and me and Sam getting
Speaker 1: up on Matt. But me and Matt I've never gained
Speaker 1: up on Sam because it's not respectful. Because he's a guest.
Speaker 1: Then we should be nice. Now we can get up
Speaker 1: on him. About the stinker part, Yeah, it's really rancid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's nast especially today was so hot. But
Speaker 1: here's the spring, by the way, here's what you've ruined.
Speaker 1: Like I was with you, I saw you over the
Speaker 1: weekend and then I came and then like I walked
Speaker 1: over to you and I was like, damn it, Sam,
Speaker 1: you stinker and you go and you and you were
Speaker 1: like yeah, And then I was like, I guess I
Speaker 1: have to put up with that, Like this is just
Speaker 1: normal now, he's normalized dead. I mean, is it actively annoying? No,
Speaker 1: it's because cute. And I think it smells really good
Speaker 1: in here right now. See there we go my breath
Speaker 1: and the mic smell is amazing, Ran, what is this
Speaker 1: to me? Like disgusting? But the sound sniffing into the
Speaker 1: mic just now like really hurt that the viewers are
Speaker 1: probably like, oh, and they're watching the ers and they're
Speaker 1: watching podcasts are a visual media. Can I say one thing? Yes,
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Speaker 1: Culture rests and get off. Didn't know that? Wow? Now
Speaker 1: you know live ads I love? Yeah? Well, um, we
Speaker 1: wanted you to be a part of it. That was
Speaker 1: really cool. A peek behind the curtain. Yeah yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: I mean we're good at what we do that. Do
Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast or now? Do you say
Speaker 1: if I want to, I scroll, I see who the
Speaker 1: guest is and I feel out in that moment? Do
Speaker 1: I give it a list? Do I not? And what's
Speaker 1: an example of someone that that you saw on our
Speaker 1: show that you said click click click, bitch. I clicked
Speaker 1: the Janine garoffalo one feel Um. So the craziest part
Speaker 1: was when you were like, it's noon on this date
Speaker 1: and you're listening and it was literally noon on this day.
Speaker 1: Actually I was going to take a screenshot and I
Speaker 1: was like, who cares? Right? So you know what you
Speaker 1: told us? Now? So why would you need? Like I thought,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be so fun. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna like text Matt you need, I need. That would
Speaker 1: have been That would have been the love because everyone
Speaker 1: while I'll shoot a text when I'm listening because it's
Speaker 1: it feels very personal. Wow. Yes, and you get a
Speaker 1: direct line and I get a direct line, and that's
Speaker 1: so to the heart, straight to the heart. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I wish I had a direct line, more people,
Speaker 1: more things. I would tell Trixie you're being boring. Oh,
Speaker 1: and she'd be like, thank you, that's honest, that's friendship,
Speaker 1: you know what. I stay tuned, stay tuned. That's all
Speaker 1: I want to say about Drag Race and Trixie State,
Speaker 1: especially not now it's already gonna have come out spoiling
Speaker 1: for me. I look, no, it wasn't ulsaid was stay
Speaker 1: tuned for Trixie. Something will happen with tricks It's not
Speaker 1: a spoiler that something happens with Tricksie and drag Wait. Wait,
Speaker 1: I have one question. Do you guys feel like are
Speaker 1: you like stressed out by the fact that there's going
Speaker 1: to be, like immediately another season and it's going to
Speaker 1: be so much No, I'm excited about it. I want
Speaker 1: that space because otherwise I just we're gonna there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some element of fatigue there. It's gonna feel so different.
Speaker 1: I know it. Well, I mean, yes, I think it will.
Speaker 1: I think because like it's the tenth season and v
Speaker 1: H one knows what a hit it has. And I
Speaker 1: think this season nine premiere was big girl, like Gaga
Speaker 1: was on it, you know what I mean, Like it'll
Speaker 1: be exciting. And also the New Queens, if what I'm
Speaker 1: hearing the tea that I'm hearing is true, Like there's
Speaker 1: some really good fucking queens on there, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: about watching them. And I think like the each one
Speaker 1: knows what a geman has and they're going to turn
Speaker 1: it out. Okay, okay. Also, I don't get fatigue over
Speaker 1: drag Race. I wanted to always be on I mean,
Speaker 1: like ideally same Like I'd like to think that I
Speaker 1: would always want drag Race, but it is, it feels
Speaker 1: like sometimes there's a lot of mental up keep to
Speaker 1: be done. I don't know, you know, it just feels
Speaker 1: like you have to constantly pars it out and like
Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't know, we literally, we literally
Speaker 1: are talking about it every week, Like maybe that's why.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because there's like an output every week
Speaker 1: related to that. It's also similar to like when like
Speaker 1: straight people are talking about sports all the time and
Speaker 1: you're like, when was the last time you like asked
Speaker 1: you how you were doing, and I'd feel like gay
Speaker 1: people now get that where it's like all conversations are
Speaker 1: about drag race. We never talked about real things anymore.
Speaker 1: You have to read on Bowen Yang that is who
Speaker 1: butt drag race up. And you know what, it's true.
Speaker 1: It's he's very privileged. All that privilege, it's gone right
Speaker 1: to his head. He's gone blind with privilege. Where You're right, Sam? Fine?
Speaker 1: How are you? Oh my god? Incredible? So good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What are you excited about? The show? Who's opening? So sheer?
Speaker 1: Lovely girl, stunning, stunning, stunning, beautiful, talented, funny, just a
Speaker 1: kind because the most important is kind. Well, you know
Speaker 1: there are some more important things. Okay, Um, you know
Speaker 1: Max Witter, Max Twitter, it's going to be their sister's
Speaker 1: weekend showing a NEWVID that's exciting artists, artists. Heard of it, Matt, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have, I've heard of it, heard of it? Wait?
Speaker 1: Did did did we talk about this year about your
Speaker 1: little history and at you the air? Now? Yes we did.
Speaker 1: How is the touch? We touched on it? We touched
Speaker 1: on it. Give your side of this story, Give her
Speaker 1: side of the story. How difficult was she to work with?
Speaker 1: So not difficult? It was crazy that you had a
Speaker 1: real opportunity there, I know. But you know honesty well.
Speaker 1: And there's there's this really fun book called Truth in Comedy.
Speaker 1: You should check it out. I'm gonna check it out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check specifically because I know how much you
Speaker 1: loved comedy. Can I say something, I've never read it. Proudly, really,
Speaker 1: I've never read it. I'm so proud of you. I
Speaker 1: wish I were you right now. You have read comedy.
Speaker 1: When I was in college, it was like, like you
Speaker 1: actually had to read this, like we So I went
Speaker 1: to college and I was the first year once the
Speaker 1: year was a fourth year, and like she was a
Speaker 1: fourth year along with this other guy who I won't name,
Speaker 1: don't name. I was just like very strict and he
Speaker 1: was like, you guys actually really need to read this book.
Speaker 1: And he was very much like like I. We were
Speaker 1: doing musical improve and as I've stated, I cannot sing,
Speaker 1: and so they were like, so he was like, which
Speaker 1: what do you feel more comfortable with, like harmony or
Speaker 1: the melody melody? And I was like melody and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're doing harmony, and it was like chill, twist yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was just like Okay, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to sing, but here goes. And then it was like
Speaker 1: so he was being really strict and Sayshire was extremely
Speaker 1: nice to me and was very like the first person.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm comfortable around you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's actually huge. Nice to you. How like she was
Speaker 1: kind to you, or she took you in a room
Speaker 1: and taught you singing. She was kind to me. She
Speaker 1: couldn't just teach me singing right then and there, weekend,
Speaker 1: I doubt it. Would you like to learn singing right now?
Speaker 1: Hit me? Come on natural pet? Oh no, that's a third,
Speaker 1: the third and then the most important one. You know
Speaker 1: how to sing? You match the tone? Shut up sing?
Speaker 1: Drummer singer we taught could be a drummer singer like
Speaker 1: insert famous drummer singer here. I shouldn't know Dave, who
Speaker 1: could forget? Who could forget? His favorite band? The Food Fighter.
Speaker 1: That was really good. I'm a really fantastic talent, fantasticque
Speaker 1: you know who I hope never fucking comes back. Kings
Speaker 1: of mother fucking Oh my god, your feet were planted.
Speaker 1: You had such hate in your heart. You don't like them,
Speaker 1: you somebody, oh my god, they were any where. It's
Speaker 1: like people are like, oh, actually they're really like actually
Speaker 1: good and that like out okay, which is how I
Speaker 1: felt about Mumford. Sorry, yeah, but no, but people were like,
Speaker 1: but people literally said that thing, and we used to
Speaker 1: sit down and listen to this. I'm like, this is bullshit. Immediately,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of this is my truth. And comedy was
Speaker 1: that I didn't like Mumford and they were made for
Speaker 1: me and I could see it was like, no, that'll
Speaker 1: take the bait. It's like like you should have rejected Anthony,
Speaker 1: like he's clearly made for you, but you're taking the bait. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's how I guess how I choose to live
Speaker 1: my life. Like some of us, like we walk into
Speaker 1: the world and we say I'm going to experience the world,
Speaker 1: and other of us. Others of us they hide in
Speaker 1: the dark, away from their interests, in away from from
Speaker 1: what's going to give them joy. And I just hope
Speaker 1: that you can welcome to the light, honey, And I
Speaker 1: hope that you get a life coach. That was bitch,
Speaker 1: you need a life coach, and bitch you need a
Speaker 1: life coach. Both need coaches, and I wish you the
Speaker 1: best and as always, kisses to my critics. Yea to
Speaker 1: all my critics. Matt's like over here fucking being like
Speaker 1: I don't like kids me this, and then he like
Speaker 1: spews his fucking critics as always, from something like that
Speaker 1: would be the fun Real House Lives track for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: kisses to my critics. You only made me stronger and
Speaker 1: God bless. Although I did also have one when we
Speaker 1: were Roulette, which was don't bite the hand. You are
Speaker 1: a catchphrase, queen, I guess so then Matt at one
Speaker 1: point for about a week long period, we were in Charlottesville, Charleston,
Speaker 1: one of those Charleston, probably Charleston. That's why I went
Speaker 1: to college. Yes, Charleston, Yes, Charlottesville. As v I I'm
Speaker 1: Charleston and Matt, he was telling you where you went. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I know that's catchphrase in Charleston was just for the
Speaker 1: week was don't bite the hand, don't fight. No no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no no no, I'm sorry, that's what you
Speaker 1: just said. It was keep him second guessing, second guessing.
Speaker 1: You always have to keep him second guessing. He was
Speaker 1: suck guessing that one's coming back, coming back, keep him
Speaker 1: second guessing. Wait, that is peak idiot. That's so so stupid,
Speaker 1: it's so so funny. I think Sam has catchphrases too, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't think so. Honey, you're se whole
Speaker 1: podcast is catching. You're right, we're garbage and trash. Sam's
Speaker 1: catchphrases are more like little one word monosyllabic things like
Speaker 1: perf oh yeah, a lot I say, like deaf stunning, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say stunning, Yeah, I do say stunning, you do.
Speaker 1: I think it's not like a full on catch phrase,
Speaker 1: but just like the general gasp, like the yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's trademarks slam. Yeah, no, it's not. Everyone
Speaker 1: does that. Wow awesome. Um, that was a thank you?
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to talk about for a club comic?
Speaker 1: I just want to talk about it. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Oh she's Um. Is there a narrative throat? There is
Speaker 1: a narrative thread. It's based heavily off of both Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga's Monster Ball Tour documentary and Katy Perry's Part of
Speaker 1: Me documentary. I oh, because we were making fun of
Speaker 1: that documentary, weren't we? In the promo bed it's it's
Speaker 1: a through line. Oh my god, I can't wait. She
Speaker 1: was gonna be so fun. It's gonna be so fun.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spoil anything, but there's a fun little
Speaker 1: reference to the beginning of the Monster Ball doc um
Speaker 1: where Lady Gaga's in her dressing room. But it's so fun,
Speaker 1: you know what? You know what moment came back to me,
Speaker 1: and that first the first of all, there's amazing moments
Speaker 1: in the Monster Ball doc but there's one where in
Speaker 1: the middle of Just Dance, she um turns to the
Speaker 1: audience and goes, did you guys come here to party tonight?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick yours and everyone goes crazy and I'm
Speaker 1: watching and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna kick your ass
Speaker 1: New York or insert city. And then the part of
Speaker 1: course during um Love Game where they play the Marylyn
Speaker 1: Manson remix and then she goes, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about? She goes, Um, I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: heard that I've got a pretty tremendous dick. So come on,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, she goes, um, Yeah, I've got a
Speaker 1: pretty tremendous dick. And I heard that they've got some
Speaker 1: pretty tremendous dicks too, here in New York City. On
Speaker 1: here in Brussels, the best run. She goes, um, alright, Belfast,
Speaker 1: but here they've got some pretty big cock. Here in
Speaker 1: northern Irelen. She goes, welcome to the monster Ball, Now
Speaker 1: dancing motherfucker's and then it's this huge Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: you do. That's really fun. That was peak Gaga for me.
Speaker 1: That concert is so weird because like she doesn't have
Speaker 1: that many hits yet and she's still like doing giant
Speaker 1: fucking tours. You're seeing her do like the B sides.
Speaker 1: It's so happy. No, in the beginning where she goes
Speaker 1: on when she does like glittering grease and she like
Speaker 1: beautiful and dirty rich, Yes, like you know what should
Speaker 1: have been like one of the big hits, but is
Speaker 1: sort of a B side if you think about it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's like one of the real fans put
Speaker 1: on the it's not a B side, but everyone else
Speaker 1: it's a Are you guys familiar with the hidden track
Speaker 1: from the Fame, which is Disco Heaven? I wasn't a
Speaker 1: fan early on her best You must listen. You don't
Speaker 1: know how do you where is it hidden? No, one
Speaker 1: loves the bonus tracks. It's on Spotify. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be It's not gonna be on the actual album when
Speaker 1: you tap into the album. But you actually just searched
Speaker 1: the Lady Gaga disco ha it in little pop up Spotify?
Speaker 1: No Apple Music, don't, man, you don't have any streament.
Speaker 1: It'll be on Apple Music to search Leady Gaga Disco,
Speaker 1: Haven't it is? So and school and life change Bones? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, um, I wonder what the next life changing
Speaker 1: song will be? I had I had a like I
Speaker 1: used to pirate all my music and I like downloaded
Speaker 1: Born this Way and it like had multiple tracks missing
Speaker 1: from it, and it was the only version of Born
Speaker 1: this Way I had forever. Then which tracks did you miss? Like?
Speaker 1: I had never heard Black Jesus. Oh, that's such a
Speaker 1: good that one either. Maybe you have the same bootlegs.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was it was a bonus truck on the
Speaker 1: on the deluxe edition. Oh so it is a bonus tracks,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't. The other ones were the other ones?
Speaker 1: I don't remember the other ones a fad but he
Speaker 1: owns the vinals about whatever. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: Reckon Tall that unbelievable about the brand. It's about when
Speaker 1: you welcome to the apartment saying, these people do very
Speaker 1: well when they have Vinyl see her live with me?
Speaker 1: You know me, I'm currently UMAs hell, But we're going
Speaker 1: to go see her in Vega. Were to Vegas, Vegas?
Speaker 1: That I want to see them all in Vegas. Like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe Mariah, Like she's still doing stuff. No
Speaker 1: was there, like and I didn't go see her. It's weird.
Speaker 1: The Brittany Vegas show looked so fun that I think
Speaker 1: it's over? Is it? Oh? I didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: mean it's ending very soon. Well I would, I would.
Speaker 1: I would shell out the money to go watch Christina
Speaker 1: Aguilera show in Vegas. Is she doing one? No, But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's one that I would go to.
Speaker 1: She to me is just like a general B side person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so your eternal A side and like Christina is just
Speaker 1: the B side of that a little bit. I understand
Speaker 1: feeling like that. I just think Christina, there's so much
Speaker 1: good Christina stuff that we don't even talk about. There
Speaker 1: is like Stripped has so much good stuff. Even her
Speaker 1: last album Lotus or whatever, there's some good tracks on there,
Speaker 1: and people just didn't even want to get well, She's
Speaker 1: I don't know, Christine regular is a part of me,
Speaker 1: I think. But I think Gaga is this anomaly for
Speaker 1: a Vegas act because I feel like it's weird. It
Speaker 1: starts a different era about when you go to Vegas,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, no one this big
Speaker 1: currently or maybe she I don't know what are her
Speaker 1: record sales, like platinum, platinum, but like a year after
Speaker 1: it came out, and that's right. So I'm saying like,
Speaker 1: maybe she's not like as financially comfortable as we thought.
Speaker 1: Who knows she's financially comfortable. She's a huge pop star,
Speaker 1: but maybe that's just not where the money is anymore. Sure,
Speaker 1: maybe she wants to be doing shows and shows and
Speaker 1: shows and movies, but she shouldn't. She's in so much pain.
Speaker 1: But I don't think she thinks of herself. I think
Speaker 1: she thinks of pushing on and like this is her
Speaker 1: second tour, she's canceled. She's crazy, she's ambitious to a fault.
Speaker 1: I think I worry about her. Yeah, oh yeah, dang,
Speaker 1: she's gone. She can't go forever like this, No no, No,
Speaker 1: there's going to have to be some sort of physical
Speaker 1: um change. I think that, like maybe that's even part
Speaker 1: of the reason why we see her dipping her toe
Speaker 1: into acting and trying to do movies or songwright maybe
Speaker 1: because that's where she's headed, like in a sort of
Speaker 1: like I don't know if Bette Midler is the right
Speaker 1: thing to say, but like some sort of like more
Speaker 1: acting direct direct, Yeah, sure, sure, like shared it for
Speaker 1: a second, Yeah, yeah, to stating that maybe I the
Speaker 1: tea that I heard is that A Star is Born
Speaker 1: is good? When does that come out? Like soon? Like
Speaker 1: this is supposed to come out in May, then it
Speaker 1: was October and then it got pushed again to maybe
Speaker 1: September or something. But it's it's like it was pushed
Speaker 1: from being a summer movie to being more of an
Speaker 1: Oscar movie because apparently people were very impressed with like
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper's work in it, and he directed it, and
Speaker 1: they said that Gaga is like good enough to get attention.
Speaker 1: But the tea that I heard said that he is
Speaker 1: like the thing you walk away from being wow, he
Speaker 1: was amazing, which is kind of crazy. And also he
Speaker 1: directed it, and I heard the movie is good, and
Speaker 1: I heard that she's also good in it, but that
Speaker 1: he's like the story of it is what is the
Speaker 1: tea that I heard? I was lucky rooting for him
Speaker 1: during Silver Linings Playbook. During that whole Oscar season, I
Speaker 1: forgot who was who he was up against, but look
Speaker 1: he was, like, yeah, he was great. I love Bradley Cooper.
Speaker 1: I think he's a great actor. He's one where I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: if someone says like, do you like Bradley Cooper, my
Speaker 1: first response is no, And then I'll think on it
Speaker 1: and be like, yes, yeah, I'll be like he was
Speaker 1: in Americans, like what's really did dislike? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? He seems like a big guy, and yeah,
Speaker 1: his instinct seems to be good. I didn't the first
Speaker 1: time I saw Silverlings Plinty, Silver Linings Playbook, I really
Speaker 1: didn't like it. And then the second time I was
Speaker 1: like weeping, crying loved it. So I loved it. I
Speaker 1: think Jepher Lawrence is kind of bullshit, and I think
Speaker 1: she's great. I loved her. It like made me love
Speaker 1: her like you don't love like the front runner, and
Speaker 1: I respect that, like I I root for the underdog
Speaker 1: to a lot. But like, I think what colored everyone's
Speaker 1: perception of that Oscar season in that movie is like
Speaker 1: everyone was like, she's amazing, you love it, and you're like, wait, no,
Speaker 1: I haven't made up my mind. It's like with them
Speaker 1: A Stone and La Land and I was like, you
Speaker 1: love it the awards, it will win and you're like wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, yes, And I think the instinct to not
Speaker 1: root for that is a good one. Think you have
Speaker 1: to break out of the matrix. But also one of
Speaker 1: my do your friends one's told me that you just
Speaker 1: have to go through life and experience it. Um, I
Speaker 1: think it's time to with that lesson learned, it's time
Speaker 1: to move on to I don't think so, honey. And
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, as you're well aware of it. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't come from as you're well aware. Is your is
Speaker 1: your moment to take a minute to do really whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do. And Sam proves that you can
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. How you've come for us,
Speaker 1: You've come for Kelly, You've you've really tried to ruin
Speaker 1: my life. But this is remember the Sam's first episode
Speaker 1: was the day that Instagram stories came out, and you
Speaker 1: didn't mention it. I was doing a service to you
Speaker 1: guys by like you know, you have to criticize what
Speaker 1: you love so that it gets to where it should be.
Speaker 1: I think Sam has lefted us up absolutely. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: talking me to go first. I would love for you
Speaker 1: to go first. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers is I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, and his time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Critics personally, my critics, I blow
Speaker 1: him kisses, but not everyone does. Hey, critics, why don't
Speaker 1: you try enjoying something. Sam Taggart, you can be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a critic sometimes when you're doing your
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. You will say I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey, Matt and Bowen for whatever goddamn reason. Well,
Speaker 1: I won't stand for it. Sam Tagget is a critic
Speaker 1: and a hater, and he makes me stronger. When he
Speaker 1: came out and criticized Kelly Clarkson for all sorts of dummy,
Speaker 1: dum dum dumb reasons, I said, well, you're a critic,
Speaker 1: and I sipped my whatever I was drinking at that moment.
Speaker 1: Let's call it te I continue on critics. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: also talking about you in the world of film and television.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, because two percent of people
Speaker 1: said that Black Panther was not good at only as
Speaker 1: a ninety percent of on Tomatoes, those two percent of critics,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, that was universally great film.
Speaker 1: If you're a critic, check yourself. And if you have
Speaker 1: a lot of privilege like and Yang, check yourself. You
Speaker 1: are a critic of Amastona Jennifer Lawrence, check yourself to privilege.
Speaker 1: But okay, that was very scattered, like almost a tornado
Speaker 1: of I don't think so, honey, where you didn't know, um,
Speaker 1: what was coming at you from what direction? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like pointless. You had you you had a three
Speaker 1: pronged approach. You did Sam, which you spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time on, and then Black Panther, which you spent
Speaker 1: a little less time than me, which you barely squeeze. Well,
Speaker 1: think about how they all attached to the umbrella of
Speaker 1: critics and then judge, Okay, um, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hear about this. I don't think so honey. People
Speaker 1: are going to be like, this wasn't a very good one.
Speaker 1: The phone time, myself um wow, um okay, you could
Speaker 1: technically say that Matt came for us. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like technically. I just looked down at my phone and
Speaker 1: I had a text from Michael Hartney, who's seeing the
Speaker 1: sneak peek of Frozen on Broadway tonight, and he said,
Speaker 1: Broadway Let It Go is the gag of the fucking century.
Speaker 1: I just know that that's true. Alright, listeners, I have
Speaker 1: one minute on the clock for Bowen Yanks. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, and his time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. People who are welcoming Paris Hilton back
Speaker 1: into the fucking mainstream zeitgeist bullshit. Kem Petres, this great
Speaker 1: new German pop star has like like has her like
Speaker 1: worshiping in an altar of Paris Hilton and her music video,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like gagged for all the gays, like Boe,
Speaker 1: Do you see the new Competest video where like Paris
Speaker 1: Hilton makes a little cameo at the end, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. It's fucking bullshit because Paris Hilton voted for
Speaker 1: Donald fucking Trump. Important And I was talking to Dave
Speaker 1: Zoni about this. Davi is sort of like Davis taking
Speaker 1: this very reason sid He He goes, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we can't expect her to know better, and I go, yes,
Speaker 1: we can't. Can she went to fucking Sidley and Friends
Speaker 1: or I don't know that him? Oh no, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna read date what I'm saying reading the the culture
Speaker 1: that is so eager to second Paris Hilton, who actually
Speaker 1: fucking sucks and it's a monster and voted for the
Speaker 1: worst fucking president in the history of this country, as
Speaker 1: agreed upon two political scientists. So, Paris Hilton, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, you you're a piece of ship. And
Speaker 1: that's one minute. Wow, very good. That was that. And
Speaker 1: that was a two pronged because it was Paris Hilton culture,
Speaker 1: and it was the culture that allows Paris Hilton and
Speaker 1: they do connect. And that's what made that think. I
Speaker 1: had no idea she was a Trump supporter. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: to proudly admitted to that. And the answer was very like,
Speaker 1: I just think he'd be good for jobs. Like it
Speaker 1: was very just like, I'm going to say this stupid
Speaker 1: fucking thing. Yeah, okay, okay, you ready, I think so
Speaker 1: who knows what this will be? I never know what
Speaker 1: this tramp. I said I didn't want any more no
Speaker 1: good tramps on this episode, on on this podcast after
Speaker 1: the any down the episode. Okay, listen to that one
Speaker 1: no good pregnant tramp. Okay, this is I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. This time starts new. Um, I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. People that make me feel bad for enjoying
Speaker 1: the warm weather in the middle of winter, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. Global warming is real and it's going
Speaker 1: to destroy us all. But like and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: like it's a good thing, but like, at least let
Speaker 1: me have fun for one day. It's like every day
Speaker 1: is so hard with this like social political climate, and like,
Speaker 1: can I just enjoy this sunshine for a second. It's
Speaker 1: like we all need to stop fighting. Okay, we need
Speaker 1: to stop fighting, and we need to stop criticizing and
Speaker 1: we need to just embrace that. Yeah it's hot, sister
Speaker 1: speak on Like yes, queen, and like, just like if
Speaker 1: I have to suffer through the world like stopping and
Speaker 1: like they're not being enough food and like not enough water,
Speaker 1: that let me have this one day in like and like, sisters, queen, Queen,
Speaker 1: I love us and I love our summer bodies that
Speaker 1: came a little early, never better. I think the three
Speaker 1: of us will have summer bodies. I think we did
Speaker 1: a hundred forty crunches today, many too many. They said
Speaker 1: you have to do a thousand or it won't show up.
Speaker 1: That's what they say. In one sitting. Who can count
Speaker 1: to a thousand asleep? I certainly couldn't count any higher
Speaker 1: than I went, so I had to stop. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I just I just came from sulcill did look at
Speaker 1: us turning versus Madonna theme Dry Top by Drew B. James,
Speaker 1: friend of the pod. He was so good, so good.
Speaker 1: He made us new stretches at the end to Madonna
Speaker 1: singing a vita. What a bit. I loved her. I
Speaker 1: loved him doing that anyway, Sam, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for doing that. That was true. That was a true one.
Speaker 1: It was you know, And I was like, do I
Speaker 1: do I go from a like that is what everyone
Speaker 1: expects you. And I thought, you know, this is a
Speaker 1: building here, this is a building here, it is let's
Speaker 1: focus on me building up and not tearing down. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is that people step forward and say I'm here. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm here, and I'm building. I'm a victim. I'm oppressed.
Speaker 1: I like Anthony Parowski. I'm a victim. I'm here. That's
Speaker 1: my minority is white gay who likes Anthony Parowski. That
Speaker 1: counts that. Definitely, kind of definitely. Absolutely. I walked into
Speaker 1: a space and I look around and I said, no
Speaker 1: one here gets it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes
Speaker 1: me in my already that every religion in the world
Speaker 1: has has some discrimination against white guys who like Anthony Parowski.
Speaker 1: Every religion. It's in every text, it's in every ancient text.
Speaker 1: It's under the in the Bible it says thou shalt
Speaker 1: not eat seafood. It's under that one. Yes, yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: Club Comic seventh, thank you. So this was a perfect episode.
Speaker 1: This is a perfect episode and a perfect first episode
Speaker 1: in the new space. Thank you for being here. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me and guys. Check out Sam's monthly
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Speaker 1: drop these do you can drop all the names? Okay,
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